posted September 24, 2004 16:10            

16:04:33 .0046 1,000,000
16:04:11 .0045 1,000,000
16:01:11 .0043 2,950,000

posted September 24, 2004 16:11            

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Originally posted by betting babe:
So, I posted the following on Craig's List in SanFran:

Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Hi.
I know- weird request- but Qtv, the new gay & lesbian tv network, insists that they are broadcasting on RCN cable channel 250 or 255 (mixed reports).

The investors in this new network's stock (it's a penny stock), me being one of them, are trying to confirm that this is actually happening. I personally only know people in SanFran with Direct TV, but QTV is only on RCN.

So, if you have RCN, could you flip to those two channels, 250 and 255, and let me know what you see? I would really appreciate it!!!

Thanks =)

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OK, the next thing to ask is if they are showing any commercials and if so who are the advertisers.

posted September 24, 2004 16:21            

Now most here are shareholders correct? Did you get an invite to Qbid's annual meeting and papers in the mail to vote on the board's members? A board of directors has the ultimate say in many dealings of corporations. They are created to look out for shareholder's interest in case lets say a crooked CEO trys to rip the company off, and other ways also. I would also think that any Board of Directors would already given Frank Olsen the boot and brought in a much better CEO...So there's your answer to the question, how do we know they don't have a board.

Brandon

posted September 24, 2004 16:41            

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Originally posted by crosseyed:
Brandon, once again, how do you know they don't have a Board of Directors? Obviously when Frank owns 51% of the company, Frank controls the vote. Which is not suggesting this is a bad thing... you will find this to be the case in the majority of stocks.

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Tell ya what....You are a shareholder...Call q television and ask for the names of the Board Members...It is your right since they are there to protect you. And ask when is the next vote coming up to reelect them...

Brandon

posted September 24, 2004 16:46            

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
By: qbidalltheway
24 Sep 2004, 04:33 PM EDT

i live in San Fran, I have RCN cable, no Qtv on 255

none at all, when i call customer service to order they said, not available,, can you say another life for qbid..

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You're still an idiot!!! There is no such time as 04:33 PM EST you dufus!! Its either 4:33 PM EST or 1633 Military time!!! DORK!!!
Nice try though!!!!

posted September 24, 2004 17:09            

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Originally posted by gmac78:
You're still an idiot!!! There is no such time as 04:33 PM EST you dufus!! Its either 4:33 PM EST or 1633 Military time!!! DORK!!!
Nice try though!!!!

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posted September 24, 2004 17:10            

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Originally posted by betting babe:
i am more inclined to believe the strangers that replied to my post- that started coming in BEFORE i told this board that i had posted on Craigs List- than U4 or anybody he quotes.

so, whatever. the first guy to reply to me emailed form his @RCN address. gee, maybe he doesn't have rcn.. duh.
~BB

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posted September 24, 2004 17:14            

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Originally posted by ron4498:
O.K. GUYS THIS WEEKEND KEEP A EYE ON THIS RCN LINE UP WEB SITE, WHY???
CHANNEL 255 WILL BE OUR Q_CHANNEL LISTED HERE.
Keep a Eye on this RCN Line up web site, our Q-Channel will be listed here this weekend. IMO http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10

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I disagree, but hopefully. It was last updated 10/31/03, so one would have to assume they will update it again around that time this year.

posted September 24, 2004 17:30            

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Originally posted by crosseyed:
How many Board of Directors have you voted for in the stock market?

Brandon,
I'm not having a problem with this so will not waste my time making a call to ask for something I don't care to participate in.

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The only long term stock I hold is the company I work for. I have 50 bucks a week taken out to buy shares. And yes, I do have the chance to vote on many things, since shareholders own the company, not just the CEO or the majority shareholder.. Maybe you aren't concerned with it, but when my CEO lies it is a concern. Even stretching the truth is not acceptable when talking to the owners of a company. You and all the ppl on this board own Qbid..You are entitled to know everthing and the truth about the operations of your company. The fact that a company that one owns has never generated 1 cent in revenue in years is a huge concern of mine, and should be of yours. Without any revenue at all over years of being in business, how do the doors stay open????? With money you give them...

Brandon

posted September 24, 2004 17:35            

how do you start a new company?
#1.. form company
#2.. tell people about company via PR
#3.. sell your product
#4.. generate revenue

brandon, i think the answer to your question is that they are still a start-up company, whether that takes 1 month or 5 years to get off the ground. and they are only getting to #2 now. how did google make it so big when they didn't generate any revenue at launch?

posted September 24, 2004 17:58            

Now compare that with http://www.mtv.com/, http://www.bet.com/, http://www.hbo.com/, etc. Notice the difference? QTV looks like it was done by a 12 year old who just learned how to design.

With all this money QTV "has", why can't they shell out $2,000 for a professionally designed website and logo identity and make themselves presentable?

Oh, and look at their advertisers: http://www.qtelevision.com/advertising.html

.. Yeah, it's good to have chocolate cookies as our advertisers. Look at how rich that'll make us.

And you wonder why the price is going down. Maybe because people realized the stock is a failure?

"All we have to do is launch!"

We launched, well? All I see is the stock price go down more.

So much for the "Hard Launch" in June. It's now October, what are we doing? Still nothing - we're not even on TV as the posts above showed.

posted September 24, 2004 18:12            

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Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Actually Betting Babe most all companies start out it the private sector owned by one or more ppl. They get revenues going and may even become profitable before they go public. Going public offers ownership in the company to all indivisuals of an already established business. When you get ready to go public is when a pr comes out. Most all successful business start in the private sector. Now with qbid and many other pink companies its a case of not establishing a business before going public. Cause basically noone with capital is willing to invest in the company. So you start out public, trying to get indivisuals to buy shares in a company that has been started. This is the reason most and basically all pinks are worthless and a majority of the time scams. Its a realm where shady men and women can and do exist. You understand what I am trying to say?

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posted September 24, 2004 18:17            

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Originally posted by firefly:
The mms are keeping it down for their own greedy purposes.

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I *love* it when people say this! Think about it for a second. Most people here think this stock is worth anywhere from $0.05 to $2.00... Now then. Let's pretend you're a nefarious MM out to make a profit. You probably have millions of shares of this thing bought somewhere between .000x and .01x... Why the #@%! would you manipulate it to keep the price at .004??? Why not let the lid off, take your millions of dollars, and retire in the Bahamas? What kind of morons do you think these people are? If they really had the ability to manipulate it that much, and they really thought it was worth as much as some people here think it's worth, why would they keep it so low? Maybe they like slaving away at the office all week, just to mess with your head? Maybe they have an aversion to being multimillionaires. Maybe they're allergic to the tropics. Jeez man. Anytime a stock doesn't do well, people on here blame the MM's. Did you ever think that maybe the reason it's not doing as well as you hoped is because they haven't shown any reason for the company to be worth anything yet?

There are several things that will make this thing worth something.
1) File with the SEC to prove they're serious and to get all the financial facts on the table.
2) Announce major corporate backing. I'm sure the chocolate shop has some yummy treats, but they're not going to fund a television station.
3) Subscription numbers. 10, 100, 1000, doesn't really matter.. as long as people are signing up and paying for this thing, it has potential.

Until then, I'm going to continue being skeptical about this thing. Happy that I made a bunch of money on the hype, but now I'd like to see them step up to the plate and take this thing seriously.

-R

posted September 24, 2004 18:32            

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Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Now with qbid and many other pink companies its a case of not establishing a business before going public. Cause basically noone with capital is willing to invest in the company. So you start out public, trying to get indivisuals to buy shares in a company that has been started. This is the reason most and basically all pinks are worthless and a majority of the time scams. Its a realm where shady men and women can and do exist. You understand what I am trying to say?

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Wow, someone I agree with here I think you've pretty much nailed it. This is something I think everyone should have in the back of their head when buying pinks... A vast majority are probably scams at worst, or worthless at best. If you assume the worst and consider everything the CEO says is a lie, you'll probably be right 95% of the time. Ask yourself why a company would go public before they even have something to offer... if they had their act together, they'd be able to run the company privately before taking it public.

A GLBT television station is an idea that's time has come, which is why I bought into QBID to begin with. However, I'm not confident that Frank Olsen is the one to make it happen, which is why I sold 80% of my shares. The potential is still there though, so I'd like to see my couple hundred thousand shares do something good...The folks at QTN have a lot of proving to do still.

posted September 24, 2004 18:44            

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Originally posted by brandwilliams:
The only long term stock I hold is the company I work for. I have 50 bucks a week taken out to buy shares. And yes, I do have the chance to vote on many things, since shareholders own the company, not just the CEO or the majority shareholder.. Maybe you aren't concerned with it, but when my CEO lies it is a concern. Even stretching the truth is not acceptable when talking to the owners of a company. You and all the ppl on this board own Qbid..You are entitled to know everthing and the truth about the operations of your company. The fact that a company that one owns has never generated 1 cent in revenue in years is a huge concern of mine, and should be of yours. Without any revenue at all over years of being in business, how do the doors stay open????? With money you give them...

Brandon

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posted September 24, 2004 18:47            

They sell shares that they do not own. They get to decide what price to sell these nonexistent shares. That's not manipulation?

Check out all of the complaints filed by start up companies whose funds have been milked by shorting.

A company post great news, a new patent, great earnings, lots of capital, new orders--the pps goes down.

.....another car bombing in Iraq caused it?

Would you please enlighten me? Just who does have the ability to manipulate the stock market?

posted September 24, 2004 18:51            

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Originally posted by bill1352:
bettin babe...put a link to your web site in the email...guys will be ordering q and give ya a hourly play by play

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posted September 24, 2004 18:51            

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Originally posted by firefly:
What is your position Robin O. Do you have share?

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Yes I have some shares left. Just under 200k.. I sold a huge majority and played a few dips after they missed their May 1 launch date. Laughed my way to the bank as I watched the pps dwindle, as I had already cashed out, while all the holders freaked.

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Are you a mm.

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Neeeope. I just don't think they're as dumb or as mean as most people here think they are. Sure they pull some nasty tricks, but they serve a purpose. It just amuses me that anytime a stock doesn't do well, it's the MM's fault. Never the company's...

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I still don't get why you spend so much time and effort posting.

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Actually, neither do I. But I do enjoy a good argument every now and then, and I think everyone needs a devil's advocate. Keeps the ol' brain working.

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Are you trying to save people from themselves?

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Basically, yes. Too many people are too credulous... It's amazing to me to see how willing people are to believe anything someone tells them, as long as it's something they want to hear. I could spit out 100 facts that you wouldn't want to hear, and you'll demand proof. Or I could spit out 100 lies that are sure to sound good to you, and you'll believe them without batting an eye.

I'm sure you've seen those Nigerian scam emails and all of the Paypal and BankOne scams that request you to send them your account information, etc etc.. I'm sure you read those and laugh, delete them, and wonder who would be so stupid as to fall for that. Well the reason there are so many of those scams is that people actually fall for them. I have friends who have wasted gobs of money on worthless herbal remedies, magnetic bracelets, and other stupid items that a comatose chimpanzee could recognize as BS, and that bothers me.

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Just curious.

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As well you should be. Being curious is the best thing to be. The problem here is that no one is curious about anything, except people who post 'negative' information. You need to be curious about everything, not just the things you don't want to hear.

And as for my opinion on this stock.. I think the potential is enormous. Huge. Massive. But I don't think Frank O and Co. have what it takes to make the potential a reality. I did keep a handful of shares around just in case though.

posted September 24, 2004 18:52            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Wow, someone I agree with here I think you've pretty much nailed it. This is something I think everyone should have in the back of their head when buying pinks... A vast majority are probably scams at worst, or worthless at best. If you assume the worst and consider everything the CEO says is a lie, you'll probably be right 95% of the time. Ask yourself why a company would go public before they even have something to offer... if they had their act together, they'd be able to run the company privately before taking it public.

A GLBT television station is an idea that's time has come, which is why I bought into QBID to begin with. However, I'm not confident that Frank Olsen is the one to make it happen, which is why I sold 80% of my shares. The potential is still there though, so I'd like to see my couple hundred thousand shares do something good...The folks at QTN have a lot of proving to do still.

-R

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SO MEATBEATER, WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME POSTING TO A BOARD WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY STOCK IN IT? HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAID TO BASH??? ARE YOU U4?

DOES ANYONE NOTICE HOW BOY BLUNDER ALWAYS APPEARS AFTER U4 POSTS??? IS THIS COINCIDENCE OR WHAT??

IF YOU ARE SO WISE AND KNOWING ABOUT STOCKS, THEN WHY THE PPHHUCCK ARE YOU SPENDING TIME TAKING THE RISK WITH PINK SHEET STOCKS??? CASE CLOSED. THIS IS A RISK, I REPEAT, RISK. VERY FEW PINKS SCORE THE BIG ONE AND THIS ONE IS VERY LIKELY TO SCORE BIG.

SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT IN EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT FRANK HASN'T DONE??? HOW MANY SHARES DO YOU OWN?

posted September 24, 2004 18:53            

i posted e mail reply from Rcn. it stated that Q runs on channel 250.
It was a real message, no lie and no useless pump!

Go Q!

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Ok at least one person posted an email from the RCN guy saying the channel was 250. So *that* guy was a useless pumper. Either way, this is useful to know that there are people here posting false positive information. I'd be a bit annoyed if I was that RCN guy.

-R

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posted September 24, 2004 18:57            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
As well you should be. Being curious is the best thing to be. The problem here is that no one is curious about anything, except people who post 'negative' information. You need to be curious about everything, not just the things you don't want to hear.

And as for my opinion on this stock.. I think the potential is enormous. Huge. Massive. But I don't think Frank O and Co. have what it takes to make the potential a reality. I did keep a handful of shares around just in case though.

-R

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DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND QUIT YOUR BITCHIN' TO SAVE EVERYONE FROM THEMSELF.......YOU'RE JUST LIKE JOHN KERRY WITH HIS NEGATIVITY AND CONSTANT BROKEN RECORD MONDAY NIGHT QUARTERBACKING.....YOU ARE BASHING THE STOCK FOR A STOCK THAT HAS MADE YOU LOTS OF MONEY AND HAS BEEN A HUGE UNDERTAKING TO GET OFF THE GROUND...THANKS.

posted September 24, 2004 18:58            

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Originally posted by kommoncents:

Dump your shares and get out while you can then....and WOW!!! $50 per week........I'm sure your vote counts...save the aggravation from all these lies and your time posting (bitchin') about QBID........I'll buy your shares...

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Yea just 50 bucks a week for 8 years. Gives me over 500 shares of a stock that trades over $50 dollars. You got that kind of money to buy my shares? Then you need to be investing in real stocks. Don't taunt me boy. When you actually put up a post that makes good "sense" I may consider you worthy to listen to. I guess since you are so rich and don't work for a living why care what I think huh?

posted September 24, 2004 19:00            

One registered on Allstocks Feb. 24 and the other registered on March 24.

posted September 24, 2004 19:03            

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Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Yea just 50 bucks a week for 8 years. Gives me over 500 shares of a stock that trades over $50 dollars. You got that kind of money to buy my shares? Then you need to be investing in real stocks. Don't taunt me boy. When you actually put up a post that makes good "sense" I may consider you worthy to listen to. I guess since you are so rich and don't work for a living why care what I think huh?

Brandon

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I've traded more shares and more money in a day jerk off. MAYBE you are the one who should stay out of the pink section (stocks that is) and stick to what you know best.

I also know alot of individuals invest in their company and get a whopping 8% return....WOW!!!! WTF????

posted September 24, 2004 19:14            

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
Robin0, "IF", did you say, IF they had the ability to manipulate a stock???????

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Of course not, read my post you silly person. I said "if they had the ability to manipulate it that much"... There's no question that they have the ability to move things the direction they want to a certain degree. However, it's a bit funny to read all the different topics on here where everyone says it's the MM's fault when a stock isn't doing well.

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They sell shares that they do not own. They get to decide what price to sell these nonexistent shares. That's not manipulation?

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Ok then I'll ask you the same thing I asked Firefly. If this is the case, why would they keep QBID at .004 if it's really worth $1.00 (as all broadcasting tv stations are worth.........) Why not manipulate it up to 1.00 and make a few hundred million off of it? Why bother dorking around with these +/- .0001 moves?

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Check out all of the complaints filed by start up companies whose funds have been milked by shorting.

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Yeah I remember the one Frank released.. it was a carbon copy of one released by some other pinkie a week earlier. Anyway, I don't know the answer to this question, so I'm not asking it rhetorically: how can they prove they're being shorted? Especially on the Berlin exchange? This sounds like an excuse to me. I don't think there are many penny investors who are well versed in the German stock exchange...so it sounds like a convenient excuse since no one here can really check it out for sure. TSBB tried this trick about 2 months before tanking, doing a reverse split, and symbol change. They claimed that shorters and MM's were manipulating their stock, and that they were really worth 10x more. Funny! But people believed it...

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A company post great news, a new patent, great earnings, lots of capital, new orders--the pps goes down.

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Fair enough, but how does this benefit the MM's? Don't they own the same shares we do? Wouldn't a 500% increase help them just as much as us? If they had some short positions, I'm sure they have the ability to execute stop losses and buy up a bunch of shares before manipulating it upwards. Which begs the question, why don't we ever hear about MM's manipulating stocks up? When QBID broke through .0042 and went straight up to .028 for no reason, I don't think anyone pointed the finger at MM's. Do they only manipulate down?

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Would you please enlighten me? Just who does have the ability to manipulate the stock market?

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Shareholders. When a company has a hot product and does well, people are inclined to buy, price goes up. When a company has nothing to show for its effort and expenditures, people sell, price goes down. It's not all the MM's fault. Sometimes the company's performance may enter into it, don'tcha think? naahhh..can't be!

posted September 24, 2004 19:15            

Robin0's and Brandon's reappearance every time the good news starts rolling out is just too suspicious to me.

Sorry guys. Robin0, you even used the same phrase again--Brandon agreeing with you. What other boards do you post on? I would like to read your opinions stated on those too.

Now, Spidey says that you are just posting for the other side. What is the other side?

Question: Facts--the truth has only one side. So where does that leave you?

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
Thanks BettingBabe for posting the response for us. I do appreciate your taking the time to send out inquiry emails.

If The Terminator himself came on national news and announced that QTV was on Channel 255 in the SF area, someone would get on this board and post,

"He didn't say that RCN was the carrier."

"He didn't say that he actually saw it."

"He didn't mention the buyback of shares."

...and on and on with their attempts to spilt hairs inorder to twist the facts for their own "twisted" purposes.

What time? What show? What baloney!

Makes me feel even more grateful that I have a life.

Go QBID!!!!!!!!!!

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posted September 24, 2004 19:16            

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Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
Robin,

i posted e mail reply from Rcn. it stated that Q runs on channel 250.
It was a real message, no lie and no useless pump!

Go Q!

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Yup, saw the note from Betting Babe about the guy in SF who said 250 is a ppv, while 255 is the actual channel. Sorry for the accusation

posted September 24, 2004 19:21            

[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 24, 2004).]

posted September 24, 2004 19:32            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Yup, saw the note from Betting Babe about the guy in SF who said 250 is a ppv, while 255 is the actual channel. Sorry for the accusation
-R

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posted September 24, 2004 19:33            

R, if you look back through the threads, you will find several postings with websites that explain about shorting and mm's too. They can instruct you on how prices are manipulated.

If you look further back, you will find a lenghtly post naming brokerages and unfair trading practices.

Of course, reading facts may not be as much fun for a devil's advocate who is more interested in their own opinion.

Thank you for coming on tonight. Good news always follows you. Just how do you know before anyone else?