posted September 16, 2004 16:43            

check this out.
www.qtelevision.com --- Q original site

what is this
www.qtelevisionetwork.com

??????

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posted September 16, 2004 16:45            

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Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
Lurker is lurking on another boards.

check this out.
www.qtelevision.com --- Q original site

what is this
www.qtelevisionetwork.com

??????

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posted September 16, 2004 16:56            

I wouldn't be surprised if the current website is to get our feet wet or our mouth watery, then all of a sudden a coperate professional site is announced with FAQ's, interactive stuff, and eye catching animations.

posted September 16, 2004 16:57            

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Originally posted by crosseyed:
I'm showing a close of .0049

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posted September 16, 2004 17:00            

...and still "under construction"

posted September 16, 2004 17:18            

Posted by: Ray Clarkston
In reply to: lobogotti who wrote msg# 24855 Date:9/16/2004 4:02:19 PM
Post #of 24869

posted September 16, 2004 17:27            

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Originally posted by kencoda:
A link to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championships.
http://www.igla2004.com/index.htm

No mention of Q ....yet.

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posted September 16, 2004 17:33            

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Originally posted by kencoda:
Hey Betting Babe ....

Are you doing ads for JC Penney ? Thought I saw
your D.D.G. face on a poster in the store recently.....

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posted September 16, 2004 17:35            

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
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$190,000 PER MONTH FOR A NEW PROGRAM. THAT'S FUNNY, I CAN RENT A ENTIRE STUDIO WITH CREW WITH FULL EDITING FOR $1250/HOUR. $50,000/MONTH IS AVERAGE FOR A SMALL STATION (Q-HASN'T EVEN BROADCASTED) TO PUT OUT A PROGRAM.
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I'm not going to dispute your whole post, mainly because you're not worth the effort. However, just to show ONCE AGAIN how inaccurate you are when you post, I'll pick this point to show how you operate.

Where in that article does it say that they're spending $190,000 per month for ONE show? As I read it, and I'm much more literate than you, it says SHOWS. Here's an excerpt from the article for you, since you're a moron: "shows like "Wow," a talk show for women and "Boys of Hawaii" and "Girls of Hawaii," both gay-oriented surfing programs".

Now, please stop wasting everyone's time, including yours. You have, yet again, misled anyone who isn't on to your methods. Although, that's the point, isn't it?

It's just a shame that other species are becoming extinct as we speak, but you're allowed to survive on this planet and waste oxygen.

posted September 16, 2004 17:35            

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Canada's PrideVision TV, which launched in September 2001 and claims the "world's first" title, has its sights set on the U.S. market, and Q Television Network has also announced its intention to be first. All three contenders appear to be focused on creating the same thing: what MTV Networks consultant Matt Farber calls "a home for this audience and this programming."

posted September 16, 2004 17:42            

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Originally posted by profit gains:
http://en.shoe.org/news/artikel.php?ID=520

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Canada's PrideVision TV, which launched in September 2001 and claims the "world's first" title, has its sights set on the U.S. market, and Q Television Network has also announced its intention to be first. All three contenders appear to be focused on creating the same thing: what MTV Networks consultant Matt Farber calls "a home for this audience and this programming."

Regardless of who wins, the race reveals just how valuable TV executives think the gay and lesbian media market has become. Q Television promotional materials project an audience of 20 million to 30 million people and an annual market value of $500 billion to $700 billion, and they proclaim that the target audience has "a disposable income higher than Latino and African-American markets combined."
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posted September 16, 2004 17:47            

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Originally posted by betting babe:
i'd say it's a 95% chance of yes... but they're usually posters so i can't put them on my website.
~BB

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Thank you Betting, Also thank you for a true profesional viewpoint.

posted September 16, 2004 17:47            

--> a lot of footage can be taped in one month

--> that footage can be edited and re-edited post-production into several different shows, meaning some months no production needs to take place

--> ever heard of reruns? it's not all gonna be fresh programming.

~BB

posted September 16, 2004 17:54            

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Originally posted by betting babe:
pharm, i'd also like to point out that it says " spending $190,000 A MONTH to create shows "

--> a lot of footage can be taped in one month

--> that footage can be edited and re-edited post-production into several different shows, meaning some months no production needs to take place

--> ever heard of reruns? it's not all gonna be fresh programming.

~BB

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Palm Springs, Calif., Broadcasters Say Time is Right for Gay-Themed TV Channel
http://www.mediainfocenter.org/story.asp?story_id=57046548

Palm Springs, Calif., Broadcasters Say Time is Right for Gay-Themed TV Channel
By Joseph Ascenzi, The Business Press, San Bernardino, Calif.
The Business PressSeptember 13, 2004

Sep. 13--After years of planning, Palm Springs-based Q Television Network began broadcasting gay and lesbian programming 24 hours a day Sept. 8.
The brainchild of Frank Olsen, chief executive officer and a 40-year veteran of television and radio, Q Television Network [formerly Triangle Television Network] will begin broadcasting its own programs in October, spending $190,000 a month to create shows like "Wow," a talk show for women and "Boys of Hawaii" and "Girls of Hawaii," both gay-oriented surfing programs.

Q Television announced Aug. 31 a movie licensing deal with Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution worth $700,000. The library includes "Dog Day Afternoon," "The Harvey Girls" and the mini-series "A Century of Women."

On Sept. 7, a few hours before they were to board a plane for New York to meet with potential advertisers, Olsen and Chief Financial Officer Rene Schenk met in the Q Television offices in the Palm Springs Life building to discuss how they started their network.

QUESTION: What has been the most difficult part about getting this [network] started?

OLSEN: I don't want to get into that. The whole thing has been difficult. Lining up advertisers hasn't been easy. The production end hasn't been easy. It's been 18-hour days seven days a week.

Q: Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. [Q Television's parent company] sold its radio operations and made a move into television. How is this different from radio?

OLSEN: I was in radio for years. Radio is easy compared with this. It's cheap, it's easy and it's profitable. Television is a lot of work. We had radio [gay-oriented syndicated programming that originated in Seattle on KTNB-AM and KBRO-AM ] but we sold that. That was just a steppingstone anyway. The radio was a way to get into television.

Q: How much opposition do you expect from the religious right, or from anyone else?

OLSEN: I don't expect any, really.

Maybe ACT-UP [the gay rights group] will attack us for not being political enough. Actually, I wouldn't mind a little opposition.

Q: In February, you said selling advertising would be difficult and that advertisers "don't want to pick up one gay person and lose two Christians." How do you avoid being too offensive to some advertisers?

SCHENK: That's a pitfall we're going to have to avoid. We're going to be as gay as we can be, but there's a lot more acceptance out there than there used to be. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the right time to do this.

Q: Why?

SCHENK: The gay and lesbian communities are the last big untapped market out there. The Hispanic market has been heavily tapped, now it's time for the gay and lesbian market. There are about 30 million people in the United States who call themselves gay or lesbian, and they have about $500 billion to $700 billion a year in disposable income. Twenty-two percent of them have graduate degrees.

OLSEN: Two things have happened that that have made this the right time for us.

The first is when Viacom said the gay market is so big and so lucrative that they wished they had gone after it sooner. Well, that made my job about 10 times easier because in television, Viacom is the ultimate authority. That was the Pope talking. They practically did my job for me.

Q: What was the second thing?

OLSEN: Digital. That was the greatest thing that ever happened for us, because it means we don't have to scramble our signal.It also means that we can aim our signal right at our subscribers. The only way you can get us is to be a subscriber.

So that means the advertisers don't have to be afraid to advertise with us.

Q: Black Entertainment Television has been criticized for moving away from African-American programming and becoming a conventional network operated by black people. How will you keep your network from becoming a network run by gay folks?

OLSEN: Black Entertainment Television was a money sucker. It wasn't making money, so it decided to go in another direction. We're going to make money.

We're developing our own programming, and there's plenty of gay programming out there already that we can buy.

Q Television will spend $370,00 a month for outside programming and $200,000 on production. The network will charge $7.95 a month to subscribers with a goal of attracting 150,000 subscribers during its first year, and it will charge between $150,000 and $200,000 to advertisers for yearly advertising packages. Programs will include talk shows, movies

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To see more of The Business Press, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.thebizpress.com.

posted September 16, 2004 18:02            

Thanks for the correction. U4 knows the real facts too--they just don't fit into his scheme.

His posts in caps made it so easy to read his ranting from a distance, that I started laughing hard and splashed tea down on my keyboard! GRRRRR!

That was my sign. . . .

Here lately I've been breaking my rule to never argue with an idiot ( that's because the people watching may get us mixed up).

From now on, I'm just going to scroll on past his twisted posts.

posted September 16, 2004 18:10            

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
...
From now on, I'm just going to scroll on past his twisted posts.

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You're welcome, suzainiee. This is good advice, however, I have this problem where I can't stand for someone to think they've gotten one over on me. (can you tell?!) LOL...

I was able to do it briefly, but then one phrase will catch my eye and I just have to respond to it!

posted September 16, 2004 18:11            

Thanks

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Originally posted by Poot Poot:
http://www.jackejett.com/

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posted September 16, 2004 18:12            

most networks are in production approx 6 months/year.

370,000 x 6 for outside programming

200,000 x 6 for production

that's approx 3.5 mil per year for production

150,000 subscribers at 7.95

advertisers at 200,000

means Q needs 12 advertisers to break even

and any subscriber over 150,000 is profit

sounds like there's a fighting chance to me.. and i doubt they expect a big profit in the first year. i'd say carriage & establishment is their primary goal...

posted September 16, 2004 18:14            

One part that might be overlooked is

"On Sept. 7, a few hours before they were to board a plane for New York to meet with potential advertisers,.."

Progress is the key to a successful business!
Looking at a brand new sports car for the Spring!

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Originally posted by ron4498:
Palm Springs, Calif., Broadcasters Say Time is Right for Gay-Themed TV Channel
http://www.mediainfocenter.org/story.asp?story_id=57046548

Palm Springs, Calif., Broadcasters Say Time is Right for Gay-Themed TV Channel
By Joseph Ascenzi, The Business Press, San Bernardino, Calif.
The Business PressSeptember 13, 2004

Sep. 13--After years of planning, Palm Springs-based Q Television Network began broadcasting gay and lesbian programming 24 hours a day Sept. 8.
The brainchild of Frank Olsen, chief executive officer and a 40-year veteran of television and radio, Q Television Network [formerly Triangle Television Network] will begin broadcasting its own programs in October, spending $190,000 a month to create shows like "Wow," a talk show for women and "Boys of Hawaii" and "Girls of Hawaii," both gay-oriented surfing programs.

Q Television announced Aug. 31 a movie licensing deal with Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution worth $700,000. The library includes "Dog Day Afternoon," "The Harvey Girls" and the mini-series "A Century of Women."

On Sept. 7, a few hours before they were to board a plane for New York to meet with potential advertisers, Olsen and Chief Financial Officer Rene Schenk met in the Q Television offices in the Palm Springs Life building to discuss how they started their network.

QUESTION: What has been the most difficult part about getting this [network] started?

OLSEN: I don't want to get into that. The whole thing has been difficult. Lining up advertisers hasn't been easy. The production end hasn't been easy. It's been 18-hour days seven days a week.

Q: Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. [Q Television's parent company] sold its radio operations and made a move into television. How is this different from radio?

OLSEN: I was in radio for years. Radio is easy compared with this. It's cheap, it's easy and it's profitable. Television is a lot of work. We had radio [gay-oriented syndicated programming that originated in Seattle on KTNB-AM and KBRO-AM ] but we sold that. That was just a steppingstone anyway. The radio was a way to get into television.

Q: How much opposition do you expect from the religious right, or from anyone else?

OLSEN: I don't expect any, really.

Maybe ACT-UP [the gay rights group] will attack us for not being political enough. Actually, I wouldn't mind a little opposition.

Q: In February, you said selling advertising would be difficult and that advertisers "don't want to pick up one gay person and lose two Christians." How do you avoid being too offensive to some advertisers?

SCHENK: That's a pitfall we're going to have to avoid. We're going to be as gay as we can be, but there's a lot more acceptance out there than there used to be. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the right time to do this.

Q: Why?

SCHENK: The gay and lesbian communities are the last big untapped market out there. The Hispanic market has been heavily tapped, now it's time for the gay and lesbian market. There are about 30 million people in the United States who call themselves gay or lesbian, and they have about $500 billion to $700 billion a year in disposable income. Twenty-two percent of them have graduate degrees.

OLSEN: Two things have happened that that have made this the right time for us.

The first is when Viacom said the gay market is so big and so lucrative that they wished they had gone after it sooner. Well, that made my job about 10 times easier because in television, Viacom is the ultimate authority. That was the Pope talking. They practically did my job for me.

Q: What was the second thing?

OLSEN: Digital. That was the greatest thing that ever happened for us, because it means we don't have to scramble our signal.It also means that we can aim our signal right at our subscribers. The only way you can get us is to be a subscriber.

So that means the advertisers don't have to be afraid to advertise with us.

Q: Black Entertainment Television has been criticized for moving away from African-American programming and becoming a conventional network operated by black people. How will you keep your network from becoming a network run by gay folks?

OLSEN: Black Entertainment Television was a money sucker. It wasn't making money, so it decided to go in another direction. We're going to make money.

We're developing our own programming, and there's plenty of gay programming out there already that we can buy.

Q Television will spend $370,00 a month for outside programming and $200,000 on production. The network will charge $7.95 a month to subscribers with a goal of attracting 150,000 subscribers during its first year, and it will charge between $150,000 and $200,000 to advertisers for yearly advertising packages. Programs will include talk shows, movies

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posted September 16, 2004 18:18            

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Originally posted by sunny:
I was thinking about Marco saying he was from an investment company...do you guys think this is the Hedgefund that Frank talked about a while ago...?

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posted September 16, 2004 18:20            

Hope firefly has the hatches buttoned down. Be safe, firefly.

Just heard that six gators are swimming aroung Gulf Shores--one of them--Chucky weighs in at 1,000-1,200 # eek!

posted September 16, 2004 18:30            

I know I'll be saying, how did I get so lucky to come across this stock.

http://www.jackejett.com/

POOT POOT, YOU GET ALL THE CREDIT FOR THIS ONE. GREAT FIND!

posted September 16, 2004 18:39            

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Originally posted by betting babe:
a little quick math.. i was just curious...

most networks are in production approx 6 months/year.

370,000 x 6 for outside programming

200,000 x 6 for production

that's approx 3.5 mil per year for production

150,000 subscribers at 7.95

advertisers at 200,000

means Q needs 12 advertisers to break even

and any subscriber over 150,000 is profit

sounds like there's a fighting chance to me.. and i doubt they expect a big profit in the first year. i'd say carriage & establishment is their primary goal...

~BB

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ATTENTION VERY IMPORTANT INFO !!!!!!!!!

---- THINK about this for a MINUTE :

SIRIUS SATelite RADIO is trading at around $3.00 a share and going NORTH at a quick pace.

SIRI (SIRIUS SAT RADIO) won't be in PROFIT for at least 5 years. And they need millons of subscribers to do it.

They ALSO HAVE a SHARE COUNT in the BILLION range.

YET THEY ARE TRADING AT AROUND $3.00 PPS and rising.

SPECULATION is THE NAME OF THE GAME... WHAT IS HAPPENING TO SIRI's PPS can also happen HERE WITH QBID>>>>>>>>> FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS EVERYONE this ROCKET is about to LIFT OFF.

posted September 16, 2004 18:39            

I recall a brief sentence that Frank would be in NY to meet with Hedgefund investors and to secure financing--end of June??????

Hi Earth_Shaker, great post. I have a few--very few shares of SIRI. It was trading in the $4 range last winter, and had fewer subscribers than we have now.

posted September 16, 2004 18:51            

Profit Gains...you continue to outdo yourself!!! Thanks for the link to the show airing on Q Channel. Just keeps getting better.

Just wait until BlueEyedBoy gets a glimpse at Betting Babe!! Lord help us all!!!

Earth Shaker--EXCELLENT example!! I don't even want $3.00 a share...I'll be happy with a measley buck per share...

posted September 16, 2004 19:06            

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
BB, just got finished going through your web site, I was blown away...hot, hot, hot, starting to worry about the guys on here, you guys check it out yet???

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