posted March 26, 2004 18:14            

Tire maker offers full-blown support to homosexual activists

[BACKGROUND: FROM THE AFA- Pulling out all the stops, tire and rubber company Bridgestone/Firestone (BFS), has entered into an “extensive commitment” to make sure their stores see the increased traffic of homosexual lovers, cross-dressers, and gender-confused customers. In a news release by BFS last week, company spokesman Michael Fluck said Firestone is “extremely pleased” to include homosexuals, bi-sexuals, lesbians and transgenders in a targeted marketing effort. Fluck said BFS will direct company profits to sponsor exclusive agreements with Triangle Television Network and major homosexual magazines, such as Out, Genre, Curve and The Advocate. In addition, BFS will sponsor homosexual web sites PlanetOut.com and Gay.com. Dr. Don Wildmon, President of American Family Association (AFA) said, “Every American family who buys Firestone tires may should be alarmed by this dissuasive direction of the company. With each purchase, their hard-earned money is going to help fund gay pride parades, homosexual television shows, and full-page ads in homosexual magazines.” Wildmon thinks Firestone’s move will further harm the company’s already damaged image. “Bridgestone/Firestone is selectively recruiting customers based solely on bedroom behavior - men who have sex with men, women who have sex with women, and those who aren’t sure what sex they are.” He said this decision won’t be well received by many current Firestone customers, the traditional American family.]

Bridgestone/Firestone
President John Lampe
50 Century Blvd
Nashville, TN 37214

Dear Mr. Lampe:

In a news release by BFS, company spokesman Michael Fluck said Firestone is “extremely pleased” to include homosexuals, bi-sexuals, lesbians and transgenders in a targeted marketing effort. Fluck said BFS will direct company profits to sponsor exclusive agreements with Triangle Television Network and major homosexual magazines, such as Out, Genre, Curve and The Advocate. In addition, BFS will sponsor homosexual web sites PlanetOut.com and
Gay.com.

Corporate Headquarters

Bridgestone/Firestone Americas Holding, Inc.
50 Century Blvd.
Nashville, TN 37214
Phone: 615-872-5000
Fax: 615-872-1599

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posted March 26, 2004 18:27            

Corporate Info

Reasons to invest in QBID:

Triangle MultiMedia Limited, Inc..

Company Profile

Symbol QBID
Shares Outstanding 122,979,892
Float (est.) 97,771,921
Market Cap $2.8 Million
Current Price $0.023

· QBID has successfully negotiated satellite rights for network distribution across the North American Continent.

· QBID is successfuly recruiting major sponsors for their programming content and many other major sponsors are rumored to be joining into this program with the company.

· GMCR believes that QBID will coming forth very soon with the announcement of a breakthrough deal with a major industry network partner.

· Share price and activity is already reflecting the market anticipation of this announcement. The current situation may represent a one time opportunity.

· A near term price target of $0.10 and a mid term target of $0.50 representing a potential return on investment of more than 1000%!

Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (OTC: QBID) (the “Company” or “TMM”) was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television and radio programming for the gay and lesbian community. While TMM expects much of its subscriber base will be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will be attractive to many other segments of the viewing public.

In order to attain these goals, contracts have been negotiated with a national satellite provider to distribute our programming, on a subscription basis, no later than September 5, 2001. The Triangle Multi-Media Television Network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the Triangle Multi-Media network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

The Company’s Market

The gay and lesbian population offers one of the most attractive demographic targets in the United States. The gay and lesbian community is highly educated, has a household income over 60% higher than the average American household and tends to have a much higher level of disposable income than the national average. Additionally, this niche group is disenfranchised from American society and effectively overlooked by mass marketing mediums. Occasionally, a gay character will spring into the spotlight of the mainstream media; however, those are few and far between (one of the most recent examples being the NBC program Will & Grace which features a gay man sharing a home with a straight female). The fact major networks and cable channels are beginning to offer programming and characters based on the gay and lesbian experience provides justification for the increased acceptance of gay and lesbian programming.

The gay and lesbian community has over $514 BILLION dollars in annual disposable income – a number simply too big to ignore. And, this estimated value does not include the ancillary market—friends of gays, parents, children of gays, and more. The value of this audience is overwhelming. To quote Simmons Market Research Gay & Lesbian Market Study (1997), “respondents are well-educated, affluent, sophisticated customers who show loyalty to advertisers willing to take the risk of marketing to them. Overlooking these individuals in any effort to cultivate a new consumer could mean the difference between profit and loss and it validates the value and purchasing power of gay and lesbian consumers compared to the general population.”

Distribution & Programming

The TTN viewing audience will have to subscribe to both TTN and the satellite provider in order to receive our programming. By having a subscription requirement as part of the distribution vehicle available through both satellite and digital cable (versus analog), TTN has effectively provided a “double-lockout” situation for the general public. Additionally, there is a program lock-out function generated by the satellite provider that acts as a third level of screening for people not interested in viewing TTN. Both the programming and advertising standards for the Triangle Television Network will always adhere to the National Association of Broadcasting requirements

The Triangle Television Network’s programming schedule will include movies, sitcoms, game shows, documentaries, news, finance, news magazines, travel, cooking and much more. Films and movies will air midday and overnight with serials being aired in primetime (6-9pm PST). We will be showcasing gay and lesbian films, entertainment programs and weekly serials from around the world. Our news and news magazine programs will cover world affairs, politics, festivals, local news and events throughout the United States and many other topics; all of which may have a slightly different twist when taken from the gay and lesbian perspective.

Revenues - Advertising, Retail Sales, Monthly Residues

The Founding Sponsors Promotional Package is a one-year package that encourages major advertisers to formalize their commitment in supporting the alternative marketplace. The Founding Sponsor program allows companies to dollar cost average their advertising dollars budgeted for the gay and lesbian market. In addition to extensive commercial and sponsorship exposure time on our television and radio network, all founding sponsors will have a significant presence in the TTN Programming Guide. Additionally, our founding sponsors will receive placement and recognition on our Internet web site, all TTN sponsored events, promotions and print placement To date some big names are rumored to be signing up for the founding sponsors promotion.

Showcase Sponsors – Advertisement sold on time, not including Founding Sponsors. Programming such as movies, sitcoms, plays and religious services will be broadcast uninterrupted. Based on our programming guidelines and founding sponsor requirements, TTN will have 2,167 minutes of ad time available monthly under our Showcase Sponsor program. The following annual average rate per minute applies

posted March 26, 2004 19:46            

America Finally Gets Gay TV Network
by Alessandro D'Amico

America's first full time gay television channel goes on the air Friday. Called 'here!' the pay per view channel will
be available to Direct TV subscribers.

I’ve always liked the concept of pay per view: You don’t need to get out of the house, you just sit on the couch, play with your remote, and voila! The movie you wanted to see is !here!

Paul Colichman and Stephen P. Jarchow, acclaimed film producers (Gods and Monsters) and co-founders of here! Pay Per View are behind the new station which boats it is "dedicated to serving the country’s gay and lesbian audience."

'here' will be on Direct TV's channel 170. It will offer two to six pay-per-view premieres each month for $3.99 per movie (why drive to the video store?) The full schedule for the new channel is in the new edition of Monkey Magazine so you may want to keep it next to your remote control.

Here are some of the highlights for here!'s first month:

Sordid Lives
The highest grossing independent gay & lesbian film of 2002, starring Olivia Newton-John, Beau Bridges, Delta Burke, Bonnie Bedelia and Leslie Jordan, Sordid Lives puts a comedic twist on a story of unconditional love, acceptance and “coming out” in a Texas family as they converge for the matriarch’s funeral.

The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me
Acclaimed filmmaker Tim Kirkman brings David Drake’s riveting one man Off-Broadway play The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me to the big screen. Charting a molten course through the depths and shallows of urban gay male experience in nine interconnected scenes, David Drake powerfully portrays a multitude of characters exploring and exposing the sexual, spiritual, and political yearning at the heart of gay America.

It’s in the Water
Big hair, eccentric personalities, and Southern manners collide when an AIDS hospice opens up in a sleepy Texas town. As a result, local conservatives are forced to their wits end and rise up, trying put an end to it. Alex, a married woman bored with her mundane social life and distant husband, goes against the tradition of her peers and accepts a job at the hospice. This leads to an unexpected romance with another co-worker — who happens to be a woman.

Canada's PrideVision TV network will be two years old this September. The digital cable station has had financial problems for more than a year. Last winter most of the staff was terminated and the company said it was looking for new investors. Nevertheless it says it hopes to enter the US market late this year or early in 2004.

Related: here! Pay Per View

©365Gay.com Ltd® 2003

posted March 26, 2004 19:54            

quote:

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Has anyone called Time Warner about their deal with TTN? I checked T-W's cable website and found that they already have a Triangle Television... it's some local North Carolina channel: http://www.twcnc.com/triangletv/channel_lineup_0322-0328.htm

Also, I couldn't find a single thing on T-W's website about TTN. What's the deal?

-R

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posted March 27, 2004 00:06            

"These are the good old days!"

posted March 27, 2004 02:52            

I WILL GOTO DIRECT TV WEBSITE AND LOOK IT UP IF POSSIBLE. I ALSO RED SOME INFO SOMEWHERE THAT THIS CHANNEL NEVER ACTUALLY TOOK OFF.

WENT DIRECTLY TO:
HTTP://WWW.DIRECTTV.COM

DID A TITLE SEARCH AND A PROGRAM SEARCH AND FOUND NOTTA!

LET ME KNOW IF YOU FIND SOMETHING OTHERWISE.

quote:

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
I saw a post in another forum here and as I have over 700000 shares in QBID. I continue to believe in the company and I see many accomplishment. But I thought QBID was the first?

America Finally Gets Gay TV Network
by Alessandro D'Amico

America's first full time gay television channel goes on the air Friday. Called 'here!' the pay per view channel will
be available to Direct TV subscribers.

I’ve always liked the concept of pay per view: You don’t need to get out of the house, you just sit on the couch, play with your remote, and voila! The movie you wanted to see is !here!

Paul Colichman and Stephen P. Jarchow, acclaimed film producers (Gods and Monsters) and co-founders of here! Pay Per View are behind the new station which boats it is "dedicated to serving the country’s gay and lesbian audience."

'here' will be on Direct TV's channel 170. It will offer two to six pay-per-view premieres each month for $3.99 per movie (why drive to the video store?) The full schedule for the new channel is in the new edition of Monkey Magazine so you may want to keep it next to your remote control.

Here are some of the highlights for here!'s first month:

Sordid Lives
The highest grossing independent gay & lesbian film of 2002, starring Olivia Newton-John, Beau Bridges, Delta Burke, Bonnie Bedelia and Leslie Jordan, Sordid Lives puts a comedic twist on a story of unconditional love, acceptance and “coming out” in a Texas family as they converge for the matriarch’s funeral.

The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me
Acclaimed filmmaker Tim Kirkman brings David Drake’s riveting one man Off-Broadway play The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me to the big screen. Charting a molten course through the depths and shallows of urban gay male experience in nine interconnected scenes, David Drake powerfully portrays a multitude of characters exploring and exposing the sexual, spiritual, and political yearning at the heart of gay America.

It’s in the Water
Big hair, eccentric personalities, and Southern manners collide when an AIDS hospice opens up in a sleepy Texas town. As a result, local conservatives are forced to their wits end and rise up, trying put an end to it. Alex, a married woman bored with her mundane social life and distant husband, goes against the tradition of her peers and accepts a job at the hospice. This leads to an unexpected romance with another co-worker — who happens to be a woman.

Canada's PrideVision TV network will be two years old this September. The digital cable station has had financial problems for more than a year. Last winter most of the staff was terminated and the company said it was looking for new investors. Nevertheless it says it hopes to enter the US market late this year or early in 2004.

Related: here! Pay Per View

©365Gay.com Ltd® 2003

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posted March 27, 2004 02:56            

HAVE YOU RED THROUGH THIS ENTIRE 27+ PAGES OF QBID POSTS HERE?

IF YOU HAVE THEN NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, YOUR NEVER GONNA BE SATISFIED. I COULD GIVE YOU A GOLD PLATED NOTARIZED AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PAY YOU BACK 1MILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERY PENNY YOU HOLD IN QBID AND THAT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH.

FAR FROM CHEERLEADING I ASSURE YOU.

quote:

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Originally posted by NoMore925:
Gameznflix said they would begin airing
their tv ads on March 27 (tomorrow) and
it according to their last press release,
things are on schedule. Ibiz said they would
be begin shipping the keyboards late march, early april and that has been confirmed. I'm amused by all the pep talk about how qbid will pop and run-up very soon. I am holding a healthy share of qbid myself and hoping for that run but without more details, exact dates, and "kept promises" such as with gzfx and ibzt, just what will cause that drastic run? Cheerleading is comforting to read but sometimes we have to be hardcore truthful in order to see clearly. I'm holding for now, no rush to buy without some more good pr.

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posted March 27, 2004 02:59            

THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE TTN. THE TRAINGLE TELEVISION NETWORK.

NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

DONT' HESITATE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

quote:

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
I was told that they will not disclose anything before an official announcement is made. However, they did tell me that they normally add new stations/networks quickly if demand is there

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posted March 27, 2004 03:07            

WE ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

I'M GLAD I DID IS FAR BETTER THAN I WISH I HAD.

MARCH 3, 2006

L2 QBID

4X4.00
5X3.99
7X3.98

RESISTANCE IS AT $4.00 AND IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

posted March 27, 2004 03:24            

http://www.treasuredstocks.com/Triangle.html

Item # 225 - Price $89.95
$4.95 Shipping for the 1st certificate & the rest are shipped free!!
“The Gay and Lesbian stock certificate”.

Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. spent millions of dollars and was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television and radio programming for the gay and lesbian community. While they expected much of its subscriber base would be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believed that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will be attractive to many other segments of the viewing public. The Company's network tried to feature radio and television programming that was directed at the gay and lesbian marketplace in the form of news, entertainment, sitcoms, and a movie of the week.
In order to attain these goals, contracts were negotiated with a national satellite provider to distribute programming, on a subscription basis. The Triangle Multi-Media Television Network would have broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Specimen Certificates are actual certificates that have never been issued. They were usually kept by the printers in their permanent archives as their only example of a particular certificate. Sometimes you will see a hand stamp on the certificate that says "Do not remove from file".

Specimens were also used to show prospective clients different types of certificate designs that were available. Specimen certificates are usually much scarcer than issued certificates. In fact, many times they are the only way to get a certificate for a particular company because the issued certificates were redeemed and destroyed. In a few instances, Specimen certificates we made for a company but were never used because a different design was chosen by the company.

posted March 27, 2004 03:26            

Triangle MultiMedia Limited, Inc..

09-06-2001 Company News Service: Triangle Multi-Media successfully launches TTN the only national television programming network dedicated to the gay community
Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (OTC: QBID) (the “Company” or “TMM”) was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television and radio programming for the gay and lesbian community. While TMM expects much of its subscriber base will be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will be attractive to many other segments of the viewing public.

In order to attain these goals, contracts have been negotiated with a national satellite provider to distribute our programming, on a subscription basis, no later than September 5, 2001. The Triangle Multi-Media Television Network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the Triangle Multi-Media network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

NEWS

08-17-2001 Company News Service: Triangle Television Network signs production deal with ValCom

08-09-2001 Company News Service: Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. President, Frank Olsen, announced the retention of a New York advertising agency

08-02-2001 Company News Service: Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. President Frank Olsen announces start of rehearsals for "Good Morning Gay America" TV with Spike Chandler h

07-19-2001 OTC Marketing Worldwide LLC: Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. President Frank Olsen announces September 5th network launch and senior-executive search

06-11-2001 Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. Executive Vice President Dick Weiner Announces Creation of Pride Cola

06-05-2001 Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. President Frank Olsen Announces Founding Sponsor Program for TTN is Ahead of Schedule

posted March 27, 2004 03:29            

Our members profitability is the primary goal. We believe the current valuation is extremely low. In our opinion the trading range should be significantly higher.

During this time we will continue to send other company profile alerts of potential percentage gainers as the situation warrants.

November 2, 2003 QBID (OTC) .0001

posted March 27, 2004 03:31            

Gay TV
Station available via satellite. Tuning parameters, cast profiles, and feedback forms.

Rainbow Village TV
Streaming videos in several genres including comedy, travel, human rights, and theism offered by this Louisville, Kentucky based site.

Pridevision TV
Canadian television station offering a 24 hour, 7 day a week GLBT TV channel, with programming from around the English speaking world. Includes complete listings, topical sections, and a search feature.

SayGay TV
Free gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender internet television and films.

posted March 27, 2004 03:39            

PRIDE COLA AND TRIANGLE TELEVISION, YEAH RIGHT!

metroG Editorial
June 13, 2001

TTN Can't Get Their Network 'On The Air', So Now They Are Going To Put Pride In A Can?

PALM SPRINGS, CA -- Still another delay from the people at Triangle Television Network appeared on their Internet site over the weekend. The current airdate as of June 8, 2001, according to TTN, is September 5, 2001.

In a metroG exclusive report (Will Dish Serve Up Gay TV?) dated January 26, 2001 our Crusader reported a start up date of February 2, 2001, after he visited their studios (then known as the Gay Television Network). Since then the name has been changed and the excuses, postponements and promises of an airdate have been so numerous that metroG has lost count.

Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc., claims to have invested approximately $7 million in money and commitments to develop TTN, which will provide a very large number of gay and lesbian programs for DishDirect Satellite Television.

Now, Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc., says they are going to put gay pride in a can and call it Pride Cola. On June 11, 2001 Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. Executive Vice President Dick Weiner, announced to PRNewswire, the creation of Pride Cola. According to Weiner the cola will be "100% gay" and will be distributed in gay communities only.

Pride Cola is to be a combination of spices and fruit flavors, enhanced with vitamins it will also have double the caffeine of regular cola and will be made with pure cane sugar, according to the press release. Weiner added, "With Frank Olsen's experience in the private label cola business over the years, we believe this will be a big success." Pride Cola will be available in selected stores on August. 20, 2001.

Now I have to ask myself here, do I want to see a bunch of gays and lesbians running around town filled with "spices and fruit" on a "caffeine high" with "elevated sugar" levels? This might not be a pretty thing to see!

Weiner also said, "We like to be known as the erotic cola," implying that the product is already on the shelves and will somehow improve our sex lives. Personally, I suspect that Weiner and Olsen may have already been drinking this stuff and it could have affected their brain cells. The specialty soft drink rollout of Pride Cola is to feature three flavors: cinnamon cola, cranberry splash cola and erotic cherry cola. It will only be available at gay-friendly establishments, gay events and gay bars.

My wise grandfather used to say, "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." The bottom line of the current rollout for TTN reads "A rose by any other name...". I say, "To be or not to be, that is the question..."

posted March 27, 2004 03:42            

TRIANGLE TELEVISION NETWORK SCAMS AGAIN

(GLINN, 10-08-01)--- In a previous news story, GLINN reported that Triangle Multi-Media, Inc., the operators of the Triangle Television Network are running a stock scam and that the company is operating in California illegally. We previously exposed their national advertising campaign as a fraud. Triangle claimed a contract with the DISH Network and advertised this in their full page newspaper ads, on the web and in news releases. This was a total fraud. They did not have and never had a contract with DISH.

Later, apparently they did work out a contract but never made the payments required under the contract, thus it never went into effect.

Triangle advertised they were launching on September 5 and claimed they were broadcasting a signal via C-Band satellite. No source could verify they were transmitting. Later reports indicated they transmitted for 3 hours. The host of their "Good Morning Gay America" show removed TTN information from his web site and has posted his resume.

This stock has been the subject of paid manipulation, and has been pumped by paid promoters who have posted numerous lies and misleading statements in various public forums.

Although Triangle has issued numerous press releases, they have not followed through on a single one and have never successfully accomplished any of their claims. We view Triangle as a complete stock fraud and swindle. There are reports that it is being investigated by the California Attorney General which is considering both civil and criminal prosecution.

posted March 27, 2004 03:47            

First 24-hour gay TV network debuts in Canada

by Mike Wilke
Commercial Closet

Commercial Closet:
• Companies try gay banner ads
• Tanqueray rides new road
• Stand by your brand

Gay television doesn't just mean "Will & Grace" anymore. The world's first full-time gay TV channel arrived in Canada last month, from a company expanding beyond its core sports network business. In the US, Triangle Television Network tries to get off the ground and Showtime, MTV, HBO, and others are taking serious looks at their own concepts.

While others PROMOTION

have explored the idea of a gay network before, none have previously committed millions of dollars to building one.

Canada's publicly held Headline Media Group has launched a multi-million dollar subscription-based gay-oriented network called PrideVision for digital and satellite TV services in Canada. The new network is spending $5 million in programming alone for the first year on a mix of popular series from England like "So Graham Norton" and "Metrosexuality," as well as US shows "Queer As Folk," MTV's "Undressed," "Will & Grace," Dyke TV, gay episodes of programs like "Third Rock From the Sun," and "ER," as well as original newsmagazine "Shout." Next year, more new programs are planned.

HMG already does well with its St. Clair sports publishing and production group and The Score network, which is four years old and pulls in 4.8 million subscribers for broadcasts of Major League Baseball, WWF and hockey events. The company has $66 million in assets and completed a $30 million public offering on Apr. 30 to help fund the launch.

Canadians will be able to preview the gay service free for three months, then will have to subscribe -- a portion of the subscriptions provides PrideVision with revenue. The monthly fee will vary from operator to operator but will be equal to "the price of a martini or two," according to a spokeswoman.

Major Canadian media company Chum Limited originally competed for the rights from the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, which oversees specialty TV formats nationally, to build a gay network. The CRTC decision surprised some, as the more diverse Chum already owns 16 specialty channels, including Bravo in Canada, MuchMusic (a sister of MTV), along with 7 local TV stations and 28 radio stations. The group also had a two-year-old, half-hour newsmagazine program called "QueerTelevision," now on hiatus due to HMG's win and other issues. (PrideVision will pick up the episode archive, which was also licensed for Internet broadcast by San Francisco-based PlanetOut.com.)

Gay TV in the U.S.: Triangle, C1TV

For years, several in the United States have dreamed of starting such a venture patterned after the Black Entertainment Network, but enormous startup costs, reluctant advertisers, distribution challenges and perhaps even late timing within the gay movement have brought significant obstacles.

After a series of false starts, Triangle Multi-Media Limited of Palm Springs also launched a 24-hour network last month -- but no one can see it yet as the company works out distribution issues. Earlier this year the company sought to be carried on Echostar's DISH network, but various disputes arose over costs and DISH's objection to the original name Gay Television Network, which was changed to Triangle Television Network.

Triangle spokesman Frank Olson says the company is now pursuing distribution on cable companies and is also in early discussions with DIRECTV, with hopes for some pickup of the network by late this year.

"The difference between us and PrideVision is that we don't have the must-carry rule in the U.S.," says Triangle spokesman Frank Olson, referring to guaranteed channel distribution in Canada.

Triangle has already spent $6 million in mostly private investment so far and projects a $12 million budget for its first year -- though the other $6 million remains to be raised. The network plans not to carry commercials but will have sponsorships like those on public television.

The company has 31 employees, including five sales people, four in programming and other support staff. Olson claims that the company's recent advertising has attracted 19,000 people willing to pay $65 a month to get the network as soon as it is available, and that they have already provided their names and credit card data.

Meanwhile, year-and-a-half old Miami Beach-based C1TV claims on its Web site that it also has plans to go 24 hours at some point. C1TV did not return calls for details or comment.

Currently, the small group creates just several hours a month of original content. While CEO David Sine declined in past interviews to specify the group's amount of investment, it has used the money to get U.S. rights to the British "Queer As Folk" and "Two Fat Ladies" cooking show to help grab viewers' attention. Sales of the "QAF" series on video and DVD in partnership with PlanetOut Partners have exceeded $500,000, according to PlanetOut executive Megan Smith.

Showtime, MTV and HBO consider gay programming

This year, major players Home Box Office and Viacom's Showtime and MTV networks began exploring the idea of gay programming, too.

HBO considered a block of gay programming that would have combined its original content such as "If These Walls Could Talk 2" and "Six Feet Under" with recent gay cinema hits like "Trick" and "Broken Hearts Club," along with older movies like "A Star is Born" and concerts from Madonna, Cher and Bette Midler. But HBO insiders say the idea has been put on hold, as the company didn't want to simply repackage content without also developing dedicated programming.

A few weeks ago, research firm Greenfield Online polled gay respondents about their feelings on the possibility of a subscription-based, 24-hour gay channel and suggested it might be produced by Viacom properties MTV or Showtime. Poll questions suggested the plan would offer not only repackaged material but also original talk shows with gay hosts, music video shows, dating/relationship game shows, stand-up comedians and coverage of gay and lesbian news and events.

The idea follows the successful launch of "Queer As Folk," which has won Showtime much attention and ratings, and reveals increasing interest in the power of gay viewers. Earlier this year, the network launched the gay market's largest-ever ad campaign, estimated at $4 million for gay media alone.

Meanwhile, Canada's HMG says it hopes to connect with an American distributor by summer 2002, though technically its satellite footprint already covers the states. The company declines to say who its potential partners would be.

Selling a new medium to advertisers

PrideVision is now pitching ad agencies about the opportunity to reach a potential gay audience of between 2.1 million and 3 million in Canada, which lacks a strong national magazine. While the opportunity may seem alluring to some interested in the gay market, HMG must convince sponsors to try a costly new medium to reach gay audiences.

It doesn't look to be easy.

Indeed, PrideVision launched without charter advertisers and, likewise, QueerTelevision went without much advertising for two years and Canada's Showcase cable network reportedly also had trouble selling the edgy "Queer As Folk" to marketers.

The trouble is, television ad time costs more to buy and few advertisers have appropriate commercials that can speak directly to a gay audience. "If the only (ad imagery) for a car company has a man, woman and kids hopping into a vehicle, it really wouldn't target our audience too well," notes Jason Hughes, director of sales at PrideVision. "They find it a challenge -- they want to, but don't have the creative" imagery available.

Thus, getting involved with gay TV demands much greater financial commitment than most advertisers in the gay market have previously offered since ads for gay newspapers, magazines and web sites are cheap to produce, often with some modified text on ambiguous imagery. And up until now, there were so few TV options to reach the gay community that advertisers have not much worried about such questions.

"It was tough finding a client to come on board" for QueerTelevision, notes Marci Martin, vice president and general manager at Chum. "This is such a strong niche market, but it's a leap for them to go from print."

Perhaps optimistically, HMG estimates the channel will bring in $500,000 in its first year. Revenues on the company's existing businesses for the nine months ended May 31, 2001 increased by 145.3% to $21.9 million from $8.9 million for the same period last year it reported.

Nonetheless, with increasingly major media players' involvement, gay television looks to be sneaking its signal onto consumer and advertiser screens. New gay networks and programming, if successful, have the power to bring gay marketing to a whole new level.

Mike Wilke writes a bi-weekly advertising and marketing column for gfn.com. His column, Commercial Closet, and analysis of hundreds of gay TV commercials from around the world can be found at commercialcloset.org.

posted March 27, 2004 03:48            

tidbits
Gay TV 'straightens'

The Gay Television Network will finally debut in April, after months of delays reportedly brought on by Dish Network executives who objected to the word "gay" in the channel's name, the Southern Voice reports. GTN will now be called Triangle Television Network, under a new deal with the Dish Network, which will send out the signal for the station over its satellites.

"They didn't like us calling it the Gay Television Network for their TV guide and things like that," said GTN founder Frank Olson. "So, to make compromise so we could get things moving forward, we compromised to call it the Triangle Television Network." Olson said the network has 4,000 subscribers signed up to get the signal through Dish Network for an extra $19.95 a month.

posted March 27, 2004 03:50            

AFA Activism
Action Alert - 12/13/01
Tire maker offers full-blown support to homosexual activists
Firestone is "extremely pleased" to include homosexuals, bi-sexuals, lesbians and transgenders in a targeted marketing effort.
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December 13, 2001

Pulling out all the stops, tire and rubber company Bridgestone/Firestone (BFS), has entered into an “extensive commitment” to make sure their stores see the increased traffic of homosexual lovers, cross-dressers, and gender-confused customers.

In a news release by BFS last week, company spokesman Michael Fluck said Firestone is “extremely pleased” to include homosexuals, bi-sexuals, lesbians and transgenders in a targeted marketing effort. Fluck said BFS will direct company profits to sponsor exclusive agreements with Triangle Television Network and major homosexual magazines, such as Out, Genre, Curve and The Advocate. In addition, BFS will sponsor homosexual web sites PlanetOut.com and
Gay.com.

Dr. Don Wildmon, President of American Family Association (AFA) said, “Every American family who buys Firestone tires may should be alarmed by this dissuasive direction of the company. With each purchase, their hard-earned money is going to help fund gay pride parades, homosexual television shows, and full-page ads in homosexual magazines.”

Wildmon thinks Firestone’s move will further harm the company’s already damaged image. “Bridgestone/Firestone is selectively recruiting customers based solely on bedroom behavior - men who have sex with men, women who have sex with women, and those who aren’t sure what sex they are.” He said this decision won’t be well received by many current Firestone customers, the traditional American family.

Firestone’s employees are not happy about the company’s new endorsement either. Wildmon said he was contacted by employees hoping a vocal outcry by consumers will send a strong message of disappointment to Bridgestone/Firestone President John Lampe.

ACTION NEEDED
AFA encourages you to support the many Firestone employees who are discouraged by their company's decision to support homosexuality. Contact these Bridgestone/Firestone officers and let them know homosexual behavior should not be encouraged, endorsed, or supported.

Bridgestone/Firestone
President John Lampe
50 Century Blvd
Nashville, TN 37214
Phone 615) 872-1900
Toll free: 800-367-3872, option 3
FAX: 800-760-7859

Email: President John Lampe
Email: Vice-President Christine Karbowiak, Public Affairs Office
Email: Consumer affairs

posted March 27, 2004 04:14            

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Welcome to the TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA LTD. INC. (TMM) Board - Trading Symbol: QBID.

(Please respect others...Personally insulting or disruptive posts will be immediately removed!)

...........AND TMM'S WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY, The TTN

Main Corporate Site (TMM) :---http://www.qbid.net ... The Triangle Television Network (TTN):--- http://www.ttntv.com ... 760-323-4199

QBID, via TTN, appears to be on the verge of becoming the first U.S. broadcaster of 24/7, family oriented TV tailored for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transsexual (GLBT) Communities!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N O W . A C C E L E R A T I N G . A L O N G . T H E . R O A D . T O . S U C C E S S ! *<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

===> 15 March 04: "Olsen and Lamont to Broadcast Gay Network - PALM SPRINGS, Calif., March 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Triangle MultiMedia Ltd., Inc. (QBID) announces the creation of a new television network. This 24-hour channel, featuring a broad spectrum of programming directed at gay and lesbian audiences, will be offered to cable and satellite systems throughout the United States."http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040315/nym013_1.html

===> 25 Feb 04: In PR today, Triangle's Steven Grunberg, President of Programming, announces a co-production deal with Red Soapbox Visual Media, LLC in which "TTN's first in-house production will be a current documentary on gay marriages in San Francisco and the politics involved." http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C25....

===> 19 Feb 04: In Press Release, Frank Olsen indicates satellite broadcast of TTN signal to run indefinitely...will commence in two months; also officially underscores ten-year contract with Time-Warner Cable that "enables us to place our signal throughout the Time-Warner system on a market-by-market basis:" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C19....

===> 18 Feb 04: "The Desert Sun," Palm Springs' principal daily newspaper, speculates on the launch of "The Triangle Television Network:" http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/stories2004/business/20040218000917.shtml

===> 10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program; 1 May 04 internal deadline to commence uplinking to cable headends and DDS companies; Negotiations for business combo with experienced company having seasoned television management and creative staff; 15B shares authorized, 7 1/2 B shares outstanding, 6000 existing shareholders. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 9 Feb 04: QBID's TTN to be available to about 10,000 cable television companies throughout the United States and Puerto Rico for $2 a month for each subscriber. Time Warner Cable television has agreed to make the signal available to any of its local system operators that want to broadcast it. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cko%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 6 Feb 04: Rumored (Caution!): Look for continuation of breakthrough broadcasting related news early next week; 3+ billion shares traded today!

===> 2 Feb 04: "TTN Ready to Commence Broadcasting!" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C02....

===> 5 Nov 03: Openly Gay African-American Elected Mayor of Palm Springs. http://www.notesfromhollywood.com/page.cfm?Sectionid=1&typeofsite=storydetail&ID=551&sto.... Also from story: Three of five of Palm Springs' new leadership now openly gay or lesbian, while 35-40% of Palm Springs' populace is estimated to be gay or lesbian.

===> 31 Oct 03: Rumored (Caution!): Sample TTN broadcasts via Network Teleports, Inc. http://www.networkteleports.com/ possible tonight, with full time broadcasting to begin next Monday 3 Nov 03. Smaller press releases after 3 Nov leading up to big time news on about 15 Nov 03, coordinated by newly hired promotion company.

===> 15 Oct 03: MeTV Related ( http://www.metv.com ) - Microsoft introduces DSL broadband TV Platform to complement existing Microsoft Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) broadband modem platform http://www.microsoft.com/europe/telecom2003/#keepithere . . . Microsoft and Bell Canada team up to test Microsoft DSL TV http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5085202.html . . . MeTV is member of a 30 company consortium, "The Service Creation Community," that includes Microsoft, Oracle, Netcom, British Telecom, Juniper Networks, Siemens, and Goldman Sachs, whose purpose is to accelerate deployment of new broadband technologies into the marketplace http://www.servicecreation.org/members/directory.html . . . MeTV now advertises capabilities for internet DSL, internet broadband, and 2-way satellite television on its web site.

===> 12 Sept 03: Posted on TTN Site: "Triangle Television Network Reaches Agreement for Satellite Broadcast Services" http://www.ttntv.com/news.html

===> 14 Aug 03: Is the new TTN domain name (and maybe a refurbished web site as well) about to be fired up? http://www.ttntv.com

===> 8 Aug 03: Triangle's new logo now appears on MeTV site under "Sneak Previews." Using Microsoft Media 9 Series Software, MeTV can now deliver high quality TV programming via broadband to anywhere in the world at little expense to the user: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/profiles/metv/default.aspx

===> 21 July 03: Recent surge of major developments favoring acceptance of gay lifestyles has advertisers scrambling to compete for gay loyalties: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23970-2003Jul21.html

===> 18 July 03: Canada's government proposes legalizing same sex marriages: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92292,00.html Time Warner Cable is not prone to picking up specialty channels unless perceived to have decent prospects for success: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/6330224.htm

===> 16 July 03: Bravo Channel's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" sets new ratings records: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=579&e=1&u=/nm/20030717/en_n....

===> 13 July 03: Validation of Concept for 24/7 GLBT TV marches along, this time via heavyweight Bravo TV's upcoming new weekly, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" on 15 July. http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/ .

===> 8 July 03: From an article at Gay.com ... The plan, first announced by Showtime/MTV in Nov 02, to launch an all-gay, 24-hour cable television channel by the Spring of 03 has been placed on hold indefinitely, allegedly due to the poor state of the economy. After launch, this appears to allow TTN to lay claim to the title "First 24/7 gay TV network in the U.S."

===> 7 July 03: (Revised): There is evidence now, via persons communicating with TW, of TTN trying to arrange a first wave of simultaneous separate PRs issued through multiple local TW marketing units from around the country. Since there would be logistical complexities in getting this to all play together, a few extra days of delay in getting the PRs out should not be unexpected. See also http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=QBID&read=70048 . In the meantime, "Pay Per View" and rival "Direct TV" have fired a shot (of sorts) across TWC's (and TTN's) bow: http://www.amtdrt.inlumen.com/bin/story?StoryId=CpWJWqbKbytu0otu

===> 4 July 03: At a time when the summer heat is still heading in the upward direction, it seems intriguing that TMM is suddenly reversing itself by switching back to regular-season hours! It was only a short time ago that the company announced that it had scaled back to reduced hours for the summer (not unusual for P.S. businesses during the hot months). Yet, today's updated after hour phone recording states that TMM's "new" summertime hours will be 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM starting next Monday, 7 July.

===> 2 July 03: Triangle Multi Media President and CEO Frank Olsen gives audio interview on "Wall Street Reporter." Highlights 10 year, multi-city deal for TV carriage via Time Warner Cable, potential for retail product spinoffs, as well as goal to be listed on an exchange by end of 2004: http://www.******************.com/linked/TRIANGLEMULTIMEDIA.html

===> 1 July 03: June 20-26 article affirms that popular actor and producer-director Bob Poirier (AKA Bobby Roger) is coming back to help spearhead TTN launch: http://www.portlandphoenix.com/television/documents/02958184.asp

===> 30 June 03: Amazing 737 million shares traded today! Intraday high upticked to $0.0003. Next best chance for first round of PR's seems to be immediately after the upcoming 4th of July weekend. Meanwhile, check out today's AOL TW's "Opportunity Investment Fund" announcement. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030630/305395_1.html .Could one of the upcoming PR's be similar to this but with Triangle's name in it?

===> 27 June 03: Now prominently posted on Triangle's web sites: ON QBID SITE: <><> "Qbid takes Pride in the announcement of TTN, inc., in which Qbid has a vested interest, concerning their relationship with Time Warner Cable. For further information please see TTN's website at http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com " ... and ON TTN SITE: <><> "TTN PROUDLY ANNOUNCES A 10 YEAR NATIONAL CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER CABLE. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon. Watch For Further Announcements." <><> In the meantime, just two days ago a U.S. Supreme Court decision was handed down that overthrew Texas' anti sodomy law that was being used to discriminate against gay couples. And just a few days before that, Canada legalized same sex marriages. Certainly we are at a point in history where acceptance of gay rights is accelerating and is in the forefront of the news. Is the order and close timing of the above events a complete coincidence, or is there something more going on here? The scope and (arguably) almost urgent tone of TTN's post sure seems to be signaling the possiblity that TW has now abruptly entered a "get TTN on the air around the country without delay" mode.

===> 23 June 03: PR on 24 or 25 JUNE? Two callers reaching separate people at the company, and reporting on another board, are told there might be a PR tomorrow or Wednesday. Huge volume uptick today to over 97 million shares; price jump at end of day to close at $0.0002!

===> 21 June 03: IMPORTANT POSITIVE BREAKTHROUGH HAS APPARENTLY BEEN REACHED WITH TW IN ONLY LAST DAY OR TWO that will permit the release of considerably more information on the contractual relationship between TW and TTN. A PR may come out the week of 23 June that could reveal this relationship publicly for the first time. If so, the PR will likely also reveal fresh evidence of TW's attempts to get TTN launched at the first opportunity. This could finally mark the beginning of very exciting times for TTN (and for QBID Shareholders). Question:...Could news a couple of days ago proclaiming that same sex marriages in Canada are now legal have anything to do with what is happening?

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Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD)
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation is dedicated to promoting and ensuring fair, accurate, and inclusive representation of individuals and events in all media as a means of eliminating homophobia and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.

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posted March 27, 2004 04:36            

ON TV

Groundbreaking gay-themed channel enters the picture
By Suzanne C. Ryan, Globe Staff, 8/28/2003

After a year or so of industry talk about the concept of a gay-themed TV channel, DirecTV is taking the plunge tomorrow, launching the nation's first channel aimed exclusively at the gay and lesbian market.

Here! Pay Per View is a movies-only channel available to subscribers of DirecTV, a digital satellite-television service, who can use their remote controls to select from a rotating list of four to six new films a month on Channel 170. The fee per movie is $3.99, which will be added to viewers' monthly bills.

To be sure, the channel is limited in scope. DirecTV has only 11.5 million subscribers nationwide. Still, like other niche efforts before it -- such as Black Entertainment Television and the male-focused Spike TV -- here! is groundbreaking. It also comes at a time when the presence of gay characters on television has generated lots of buzz, with this summer's ''Queer Eye for the Straight Guy'' and ''Boy Meets Boy'' on Bravo.

''The potential here is exponential,'' said Scott Seomin, a spokesman for GLAAD, the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. ''The channel could decide to do a block of gay and lesbian reality shows. It could have an hourlong talk show about the transgender community. It could start to produce its own sitcoms and dramas. Television is such a copycat medium. We hope that not only is here! successful but that others will copy its success.''

Last year, MTV and Showtime -- both owned by Viacom -- announced plans to collaborate on a gay-themed channel. The timetable for that plan has since been slowed due to the economic climate, Showtime said.

Filmmakers Paul Colichman and Stephen J. Jarchow created and financed the here! channel through their film company Regent Entertainment. They chose pay-per-view as an outlet because it was a much cheaper option than launching a traditional 24-hour channel.

Colichman, who coproduced the Academy-Award winning ''Gods and Monsters'' in 1998, said the movies on here! will include dramas, comedies, and thrillers, featuring characters who happen to be gay. He said, ''In each case, we will be looking for media images that provide validation and support for the gay community.''

The channel's initial movie premieres will include 2002's ''Sordid Lives,'' a comedy about coming out to a Texas family as it converges for a matriarch's funeral. The film stars Olivia Newton-John, Beau Bridges, and Delta Burke. ''It's in the Water,'' released in 1999, is a story about what happens when an AIDS hospice opens in a small, conservative Texas town. Alex, a woman bored with her marriage, goes to work at the hospice and discovers romance with a female co-worker. ''The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me'' is an adaptation of a one-man play by David Drake that explores the urban gay male experience.

Colichman said he is looking for sponsors for the channel so ''the gay community will know who is supporting them.'' To date, the magazines Out and The Advocate have signed on. He declined to name any others. Sponsors will get PBS-style credits, rather than running ads that interrupt programming.

The entrepreneur hopes to expand beyond DirecTV within six months and have here! listed as a pay-per-view or video-on-demand service on cable systems nationwide. In March, the channel intends to launch a 30-minute late-night talk show called ''hearsay!,'' which will be hosted by an as yet unnamed gay man and straight woman. ''It will be an alternative to Letterman and Kimmel. Something female-friendly and gay-friendly,'' he said. That show will be aired at no charge to viewers -- both to DirecTV subscribers and, Colichman hopes, subscribers to ordinary cable services.

By next summer, Colichman hopes to have launched a few scripted series, which would be available for a flat monthly rate, probably about $8.99. ''We have six in development. I'm not sure how many will make it.''

He has plans to air original movies as well.

Michael Thornton, DirecTV's senior vice president of program acquisitions, said clustering such thematic programming on one channel is an experiment for the satellite service, which typically offers 55 pay-per-view movies each day for its subscribers. ''This is something we thought was very worthwhile to try,'' he said. ''What remains to be seen is whether other mainstream media will support this group of individuals to the point where they don't need a channel targeted at them. The broadcast networks already have shows like `Will & Grace.' But will they step up and provide more to satisfy this audience?''

Colichman is skeptical. ''Shows like `Queer Eye' are designed more for straight viewers than gay viewers. They want to introduce the straight community to gay people,'' he said. ''Our channel is going to fill a different need.

''We will show relationships in the gay community. A hug and a kiss between two men is still controversial on broadcast TV. We will show gay people at home with their boyfriends or their children. We are also concerned about gay teens not having proper role models. They need to be able to see people like themselves on TV as successful and enjoying life.

''And while it's great to have this image of gay people as having exquisite taste and eating at the finest restaurants, the reality is that the gay community is so much broader. We want to show that.''

Suzanne Ryan can be reached at sryan@globe.com

This story ran on page B9 of the Boston Globe on 8/28/2003.
© Copyright 2003 Globe Newspaper Company.

posted March 27, 2004 04:40            

BY SHIRLEY BRADY

With Bravo's Fab Five making TV history, last week's historic election of the first openly gay Episcopal bishop and June's Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay sex, art and life are seeing (queer) eye to eye.

Queer Eye for the Straight Guy set another record last week. Episode four on Aug. 5 posted the second-highest numbers (a 2.38 household rating and 2.7 million viewers) in Bravo's history, topped only by the show's July 29 telecast.

Bravo's owner knows a good cross-network commodity when it sees one. NBC is again re-airing the show, this time in its original one-hour format, during its Aug. 15 Thursday prime-time comedy block after Will & Grace. Later that night, the Queer Eye cast jumps to The Tonight Show where they'll outline their plans for Jay Leno, his band, even the set. They'll return the next night to show America the results of their “make better” approach to late-night TV.

Bravo president Jeff Gaspin says he wants to attract the broadest possible audience. “I don't look at Queer Eye as a gay show,” says Gaspin, who's ordered another seven episodes. “It's a makeover show that happens to have five gay men in it.”

It's praised by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, though spokesman Scott Seomin is less taken with its lead-in, Boy Meets Boy. TV's first gay-themed reality series nabbed 1.2 million viewers in its 9 p.m. time slot Aug. 5.

Gaspin says that of the pilots that Bravo had shot before NBC bought the cable network last December, Queer Eye “was the only one that had potential. It had charm, it was different, and it certainly got my attention.”

AMC SVP of programming and production Rob Sorcher hopes to generate as much buzz for The AMC Project: Gay Hollywood, an original special running Aug. 11. “We're in the happy moment of what seems to be the programming trend of the moment,” he says.

Showtime, a champion of gay programming with marquee titles such as Queer as Folk, starts running The L Word, an original series about lesbians, in January. Likely to win favor with critics and viewers, would its success revive Viacom's plans for Outlet, a 24/7 premium gay channel?

Howard Buford, CEO of ad agency Prime Access, says with the success of Queer Eye — and with gay and lesbian annual spending power estimated to be $500 billion — the timing is ideal. “We have had great results by crafting almost a ‘gay network buy’ on cable with networks like HGTV and TLC, which have high viewership among women and gay men,” he says. “But there is a real need for…efficient TV programming to help advertisers reach [the gay] demographic.”

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posted March 27, 2004 05:09            

Wednesday, March 17, 2004

Companies Lauch Gay TV Station

Triangle MultiMedia hopes to have the network ready for a soft launch in mid-May 2004.

By Lisa Johnson


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You knew it was coming. Gay TV has finally arrived. Triangle MultiMedia Ltd., Inc. (QBID) just announced the creation of a new television network. This 24-hour channel will feature a broad spectrum of programming directed at gay and lesbian audiences.

The network will feature original plays, motion pictures, series and documentaries as well as sports, travel and lifestyle programming combined with live news broadcasts and specials. Triangle MultiMedia Ltd, Inc. has contracted with Network Teleports Inc. and its president Barbara Lamont to coordinate the launch, webcasting and satellite uplink on a popular C-band cable bird whose footprint reaches all of North America.

Providing all technical and programming aspects are met, the network will have a "soft" launch by middle May 2004, running one-hour sampler programming blocks in various dayparts to give cable operators a chance to preview the network. Regular programming will begin transmission via satellite and will be available as a subscription channel on selected cable systems once all transmission issues have been resolved.

For additional funding, chairman Frank Olsen has created a Sponsorship Program aimed at large corporations. These select few corporations will receive preferred status regarding advertising and placement on the network during the first broadcast year. The company's sales team has already begun targeting these organizations.





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posted March 27, 2004 11:18            

TNN & TTN & TMM

I see THEM mentioned in this and THEY are making some confused on the research and within the boards being posted. If there is no clarification, we all are bombing away at EACH.

Thanks,
Chuck

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posted March 27, 2004 12:14            

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Originally posted by $CashMaker$:
OOPS got duplicated..

Sorry,
Gota Love LAGGGGGG

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posted March 27, 2004 19:15            

It looks like we're seeing the same stories from 3-4 years ago. "Contract with major network..." "Talented executives hired.." "Air date no later than..." Didn't happen then, why are we expecting it now?

Has anyone seen this contract with T-W? Why is it that we know about it, but the company is saying they won't show us until it's official? If it's not official, why are they issuing press releases about it? Have we seen any of these stories from external news sources, or is all the information we have just from internal PRs? Al Franken is all over the news because he's starting up a liberal talk radio station. Don't you think CNN, FNC, MSNBC, etc would at least *mention* a gay tv station that's set to air in 45 days, given the current political climate over the issue?

The inital air date was May 1, but got bumped to May 15... no biggie. My prediction though, is that it will get bumped again.. and again... and again... It will be like the IBZT thread titled "VKB ships this week!" that is now 2 months old and 30 pages long with everyone saying "next week.." It'll get a nice run-up to the middle of May while some dump for profits and other hang on like Slim Pickens at the end of Dr. Strangelove. Think I'll make some phonecalls on Monday to get some more information.

posted March 27, 2004 20:33            

QBID ======= TMM

Thanks,
Chuck

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Originally posted by $CashMaker$:
Can Someone make a Spread and PLEASE decifer the differences between

TNN & TTN & TMM

I see THEM mentioned in this and THEY are making some confused on the research and within the boards being posted. If there is no clarification, we all are bombing away at EACH.

Thanks,
Chuck

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posted March 27, 2004 20:49            

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Originally posted by $CashMaker$:
Anyone else seeing what I am seeing? These three things are being mentioned alot in alot of peoples notes. This will leave me concerned with DD for each person's post. Make it TMM and stick with it. That is the company QBID.

QBID ======= TMM

Thanks,
Chuck

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posted March 27, 2004 20:51            

SOURCE QBID

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posted March 27, 2004 20:52            

REGARDING YOUR MESSAGE BEING POSTED, A COUPLE THINGS INSTANTLY COME TO MIND.

THE FIRST IS DID YOU ENTER YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD TO POST? I KNOW THAT SOUNDS RATHER SIMPLE BUT I MYSELF HAVE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS DID NOT PUT IT IN OR I FORGOT ONE OR THE OTHER.

THE SECOND IS IF YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR POST IMMEDIATELY, CLICK THE REFRESH PAGE MORE THAN ONCE. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CLICK IT 3 TIMES TO SEE YOUR POST AFTER YOU PUT IT ON.

AS FAR AS THE WHOLE SCAM ISSUE; YOU COULD BE ABSOLUTELY POSTIVELY 100% CORRECT!

PREVIOUSLY IN THE 2001 ERA WHEN "EVERYTHING" CAME TO LIGHT REGARDING THIS STOCK AND IT DIDN'T FLY UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, YOU CAN ASK WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS OR SO. DO YOU COME SO CLOSE TO GETTING A REAL STATION OFF THE GROUND THAT IT TAKES 3+ YEARS TO GET EVERYTHING BACK I ORDER TO TRY IT AGAIN?

LEGTIMATE QUESTION.

COULD ALL THE REASONS GIVEN AS TO BICKERING WITHIN THE INTERNAT STRUCTURE OF QBID BEEN SUCH A DRAMATIC PROBLEM; ABSOLUTELY!

NOW IN THE MIDST OF THE PAST 3+ YEARS WITH TYCO, ENRON, HEALTHSOUTH, ETC.ETC.ETC DOES ANYONE DARE ATTEMPT TO FRAUDENTLY BOAST A STOCK? ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS A STOCK HOLDING A VALUE OF .003 UP FROM .001. WE ALSO HAVE INFO RELEASED THAT SAYS WE WILL NOT GET ANY MORE PR UNTIL WE HAVE THAT ITEM OF INFORMATION CONFIRMED OR IT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COMPANY.

WHEN WE GOT TO THIS POINT PREVIOUSLY, THE STOCK FLEW UPWARDS OF $1.00/SHARE. NOW FOR MOST OF US, WE HAVE IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS JUST THIS THOUGHT AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE AS INDIVIDUAL SHAREHOLDERS DON'T GIVE A FLYING FLIP IF THE STOCK IS A FRAUD OR NOT, ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS AN EXIT POINT OF $1.00 OR LESS. WITH WHAT WE HOLD, GOES UP TO THE .50-.80 RANGE, THE STOCK IS A FRAUD AND NOTHING HAPPENS, AND WE ALL EXIT OUT WITH A NICE FINANCIAL RETIREMENT, AND THAT IS ALL WE TRULY CARE ABOUT. SO FOR THOSE OF US WITH SAY 5 MIL SHARES, EXIT AT .80 EQUALS $4 MILLION DOLLARS AND THE COMPANY FOLDS/FRAUD/INDICTMENT WE AS THE INDIVIDUAL SHAREHOLDER DON'T CARE PROVIDING WE GET OUR EXIT POINT.

NOW IF WE ARE A FRAUD AT AN ENTRY OF .001-.003, THE FRAUD WONT BE FOUND UNTIL MUCH LATER WITH MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TIME FOR US TO EXIT AT SAY .25-.50 WITH A NICE RETURN ON A STOCK THAT WAS TOTAL CRAP!

NOW WITH ALL THAT SAID.

I MYSELF HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THIS STOCK IS REAL WITH NO FRAUDLENT PURPOSE.

THE RESEARCH THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS TELLS ME THAT IT'S LEGTIMATE. BEING IN THE POSITION OF A STARTUP BUSINESS PREVIOUSLY, I AM PERSONALLY/PHYSICALLY AWARE OF HOW SOMETHING SO PROMISING COULD GET SCREWED UP SO QUICKLY AND 3 YEARS LATER, "HELLO, HERE WE ARE AGAIN". YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF FRAUD OR A SEASONED STAFF NOW ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PROBLEMS THAT PUT THINGS OFF BEFORE. THAT IS YOUR CALL AND I CAN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION FOR YOU.

WELL SO AND SO IS FULL OF CRAP. WELL IT TAKES ALOT OF FERTILIZER FOR A BIG FIELD.

CALL THE COMPANY YOURSELF. SPEAK TO THE CEO AND USE YOUR OWN INSTINCT. EVEN THE GREATEST OF CON ARTISTS GENERALLY ARE SEEN RIGHT OFF EXCEPT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THAT GUT WARNING. HOW IS THE INFLECTION OF THE PERSONS VOICE? CAN YOU BE ASKING QUESTIONS AND OUR CEO CUT YOU OFF POLITELY BEFORE YOU COMPLETE YOUR SENTENCE AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? DOES HE TELL YOU HE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT ISSUE AND IS THAT REASONABLE FOR HIM NOT TO DISCUSS THAT DUE TO YOU COMING BACK ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS AND BLABBERING AWAY AT THE CONVERSATION YOU GUYS JUST HAD? CAN THE PERSON PROVIDE YOU WITH OTHER CONTACT INFO FOR YOU TO VERIFY WHAT HE/SHE IS TELLING YOU? CAN I PLEASE GET THAT PHONE NUMBER TO TIMEWARNER TO VERIFY YOUR 10-YEAR AGREEMENT AND HE TELLS YOU THAT HE WILL TRANSFER YOUR CALL TO HIS SECRETARY TO GET THAT INFO AFTER YOUR DONE TALKING? DO YOU SENSE HE'S IN A HURRY TO GET YOU OFF THE PHONE TO AVOID YOUR PROBEING OR DOES HE HAVE SOMETHING TO ATTEND TO?

EXAMPLE, I'M A SHAREHOLDER AND BELIEVER OF THIS TV NETWORK AND I MYSELF POSTED THAT FRAUD THING I FOUND IN RESEARCH. IMPORTANT TO NOTE ARE THE ONE'S CLAIMING THAT FRAUD WAS TAKING PLACE AND THAT CIVIL AND CRIMINAL CHARGES WERE PENDING, NOTHING HAPPENED FROM THAT. IT'S SO EASY FOR ANYONE TO POST "FRAUD" BUT IT'S ANOTHER TO BACK IT UP.

QBID IS A FRAUD. <----SEE HOW EASY THAT WAS.

CALL THE COMPANY, ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, POST QUESTIONS ON BOARDS, CALL VIACOM (MTV) CORPORATE OFFICES AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT TTN. CALL YOUR LOCAL STOCKBROKER, OFFER TO BUY HIM LUNCH IF HE DOES A BIT OF RESEARCH FOR YOU ON QBID. CALL TIME WARNER CORPORATE AND ASK THEM WHAT'S UP. E-MAIL GAY ESTABLISHMENTS AND ASK THEM ABOUT TRAINGLE TELEIVISION. CALL ROSIE O'DONNELL AND ASK HER AGENT IF SHE'S BEEN CONTACTED TO HELP OUT WITH TTN. WRITE TO PRESIDENT BUSH AND ASK HIM IF HE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT A CHANNEL ABOUT TO BROADCAST. ETC.ETC.ETC.ETC.ETC.ETC.ETC.

MARCH 3, 2006

L2 QBID

5X4.00
6X3.99
4X3.98

RESISTANCE IS AT $4.00 AND IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

posted March 27, 2004 21:04            

Stocks, Over $0.10

QBID IS OVER .10... HA HA TOLD YA SO!

posted March 27, 2004 21:17            

Company News Service: Triangle Television Network signs production deal with ValCom
8/17/2001 Palm Springs CA -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (OTC-QBID) announced that Triangle Television Network (TTN) has secured the production services of ValCom (OTCBB:VCMI - Frankfurt:VAM)to produce two of its television programs to be in the program schedule of TTN. ValCom will provide facilities and expertise in the production of "Gay Bandstand" and "Gay Court". ValCom, Inc. provides full service production services and facilities to companies in the television and film industry.
About ValCom
ValCom is a vertically integrated entertainment conglomerate that includes television production for network and syndication, motion pictures, and real estate holdings. ValCom owns 30 acres of land located on both the east and west coast, and approximately 300,000 square feet of commercial buildings, which consists of ten film and production sound stages. The company recently purchased Half-Day Video, Inc. bringing in over 2 million in annual revenues, with over a million in television/film equipment available for rent or rented. The company has contracts in place to utilize the sound stages with Paramount Pictures for the hit CBS series "JAG" and Saban Entertainment for the Fox Family popular show "Power Rangers." ValCom's clients include: Warner Bros., Universal, HBO, Twentieth Century Fox, Disney, CBS, and the USA Network. For additional information go to: http://www.valenciaentertainment.com

"We are delighted to have secured ValCom to produce two of our main programs for the launch of Triangle Television Network (TTN) on September 5, 2001", comments Frank Olsen President of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. "ValCom will produce "Gay Court" and "Gay Bandstand" for Triangle Television Network in the Company's facilities in Palm Springs and will utilize ValCom facilities in Valencia. We are excited to finally launch TTN and to realize the implementation of the company's business plan. TTN is designed to encourage maximum leverage of information technology, operational excellence, industry expertise and synergistic business opportunities. TTN is committed to building shareholder value by positioning affiliated companies as independent business entities in which QBID shareholders enjoy equity participation. We are continuing to explore ways of generate revenues, build shareholder equity and increase shareholders value", further commented Frank Olsen.

Triangle Multi-Media Limited web sites ( "http://www.qbid.net/" "http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com/"

QBID Overview
The Triangle Television Network (the 'Company' or 'TTN'), a wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc (QBID) was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television and radio programming for the gay and lesbian community. While TTN expects much of its subscriber base will be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. TTN's programming will be provided on a subscription basis, no later than September 5, 2001. The Triangle Television Network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the Triangle Television Network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

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Originally posted by mondayschild:
I do understand what you are saying, but in most of these posts whether the author of the PR says TMM or TTN, it has something to do with qbid. I know there is a Triangle Network in North Carolina...and it is confusing when searching for articles about qbid. If it doesn't mention qbid , or gay television, I don't bother posting it. Most of us are highly invested in this and looking for information, sharing the pros and the cons. I don't think any of us are trying to confuse anyone on purpose....but I apologize if anything I posted did that

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posted March 27, 2004 21:34            

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Welcome to the TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA LTD. INC. (TMM) Board - Trading Symbol: QBID.

(Please respect others...Personally insulting or disruptive posts will be immediately removed!)

...........AND TMM'S WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY, The TTN

Main Corporate Site (TMM) :---http://www.qbid.net ... The Triangle Television Network (TTN):--- http://www.ttntv.com ... 760-323-4199

QBID, via TTN, appears to be on the verge of becoming the first U.S. broadcaster of 24/7, family oriented TV tailored for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transsexual (GLBT) Communities!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N O W . A C C E L E R A T I N G . A L O N G . T H E . R O A D . T O . S U C C E S S ! *<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

===> 15 March 04: "Olsen and Lamont to Broadcast Gay Network - PALM SPRINGS, Calif., March 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Triangle MultiMedia Ltd., Inc. (QBID) announces the creation of a new television network. This 24-hour channel, featuring a broad spectrum of programming directed at gay and lesbian audiences, will be offered to cable and satellite systems throughout the United States."http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040315/nym013_1.html

===> 25 Feb 04: In PR today, Triangle's Steven Grunberg, President of Programming, announces a co-production deal with Red Soapbox Visual Media, LLC in which "TTN's first in-house production will be a current documentary on gay marriages in San Francisco and the politics involved." http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C25....

===> 19 Feb 04: In Press Release, Frank Olsen indicates satellite broadcast of TTN signal to run indefinitely...will commence in two months; also officially underscores ten-year contract with Time-Warner Cable that "enables us to place our signal throughout the Time-Warner system on a market-by-market basis:" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C19....

===> 18 Feb 04: "The Desert Sun," Palm Springs' principal daily newspaper, speculates on the launch of "The Triangle Television Network:" http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/stories2004/business/20040218000917.shtml

===> 10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program; 1 May 04 internal deadline to commence uplinking to cable headends and DDS companies; Negotiations for business combo with experienced company having seasoned television management and creative staff; 15B shares authorized, 7 1/2 B shares outstanding, 6000 existing shareholders. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 9 Feb 04: QBID's TTN to be available to about 10,000 cable television companies throughout the United States and Puerto Rico for $2 a month for each subscriber. Time Warner Cable television has agreed to make the signal available to any of its local system operators that want to broadcast it. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cko%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 6 Feb 04: Rumored (Caution!): Look for continuation of breakthrough broadcasting related news early next week; 3+ billion shares traded today!

===> 2 Feb 04: "TTN Ready to Commence Broadcasting!" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C02....

===> 5 Nov 03: Openly Gay African-American Elected Mayor of Palm Springs. http://www.notesfromhollywood.com/page.cfm?Sectionid=1&typeofsite=storydetail&ID=5 51&sto.... Also from story: Three of five of Palm Springs' new leadership now openly gay or lesbian, while 35-40% of Palm Springs' populace is estimated to be gay or lesbian.

===> 31 Oct 03: Rumored (Caution!): Sample TTN broadcasts via Network Teleports, Inc. http://www.networkteleports.com/ possible tonight, with full time broadcasting to begin next Monday 3 Nov 03. Smaller press releases after 3 Nov leading up to big time news on about 15 Nov 03, coordinated by newly hired promotion company.

===> 15 Oct 03: MeTV Related ( http://www.metv.com ) - Microsoft introduces DSL broadband TV Platform to complement existing Microsoft Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) broadband modem platform http://www.microsoft.com/europe/telecom2003/#keepithere . . . Microsoft and Bell Canada team up to test Microsoft DSL TV http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5085202.html . . . MeTV is member of a 30 company consortium, "The Service Creation Community," that includes Microsoft, Oracle, Netcom, British Telecom, Juniper Networks, Siemens, and Goldman Sachs, whose purpose is to accelerate deployment of new broadband technologies into the marketplace http://www.servicecreation.org/members/directory.html . . . MeTV now advertises capabilities for internet DSL, internet broadband, and 2-way satellite television on its web site.

===> 12 Sept 03: Posted on TTN Site: "Triangle Television Network Reaches Agreement for Satellite Broadcast Services" http://www.ttntv.com/news.html

===> 14 Aug 03: Is the new TTN domain name (and maybe a refurbished web site as well) about to be fired up? http://www.ttntv.com

===> 8 Aug 03: Triangle's new logo now appears on MeTV site under "Sneak Previews." Using Microsoft Media 9 Series Software, MeTV can now deliver high quality TV programming via broadband to anywhere in the world at little expense to the user: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/profiles/metv/default. aspx

===> 21 July 03: Recent surge of major developments favoring acceptance of gay lifestyles has advertisers scrambling to compete for gay loyalties: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23970-2003Jul21.html

===> 18 July 03: Canada's government proposes legalizing same sex marriages: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92292,00.html Time Warner Cable is not prone to picking up specialty channels unless perceived to have decent prospects for success: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/6330224.htm

===> 16 July 03: Bravo Channel's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" sets new ratings records: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=579&e=1&u=/nm/20030717/en_n.. ..

===> 13 July 03: Validation of Concept for 24/7 GLBT TV marches along, this time via heavyweight Bravo TV's upcoming new weekly, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" on 15 July. http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/ .

===> 8 July 03: From an article at Gay.com ... The plan, first announced by Showtime/MTV in Nov 02, to launch an all-gay, 24-hour cable television channel by the Spring of 03 has been placed on hold indefinitely, allegedly due to the poor state of the economy. After launch, this appears to allow TTN to lay claim to the title "First 24/7 gay TV network in the U.S."

===> 7 July 03: (Revised): There is evidence now, via persons communicating with TW, of TTN trying to arrange a first wave of simultaneous separate PRs issued through multiple local TW marketing units from around the country. Since there would be logistical complexities in getting this to all play together, a few extra days of delay in getting the PRs out should not be unexpected. See also http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=QBID&read=70048 . In the meantime, "Pay Per View" and rival "Direct TV" have fired a shot (of sorts) across TWC's (and TTN's) bow: http://www.amtdrt.inlumen.com/bin/story?StoryId=CpWJWqbKbytu0otu

===> 4 July 03: At a time when the summer heat is still heading in the upward direction, it seems intriguing that TMM is suddenly reversing itself by switching back to regular-season hours! It was only a short time ago that the company announced that it had scaled back to reduced hours for the summer (not unusual for P.S. businesses during the hot months). Yet, today's updated after hour phone recording states that TMM's "new" summertime hours will be 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM starting next Monday, 7 July.

===> 2 July 03: Triangle Multi Media President and CEO Frank Olsen gives audio interview on "Wall Street Reporter." Highlights 10 year, multi-city deal for TV carriage via Time Warner Cable, potential for retail product spinoffs, as well as goal to be listed on an exchange by end of 2004: http://www.******************.com/linked/TRIANGLEMULTIMEDIA.html

===> 1 July 03: June 20-26 article affirms that popular actor and producer-director Bob Poirier (AKA Bobby Roger) is coming back to help spearhead TTN launch: http://www.portlandphoenix.com/television/documents/02958184.asp

===> 30 June 03: Amazing 737 million shares traded today! Intraday high upticked to $0.0003. Next best chance for first round of PR's seems to be immediately after the upcoming 4th of July weekend. Meanwhile, check out today's AOL TW's "Opportunity Investment Fund" announcement. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030630/305395_1.html .Could one of the upcoming PR's be similar to this but with Triangle's name in it?

===> 27 June 03: Now prominently posted on Triangle's web sites: ON QBID SITE: <><> "Qbid takes Pride in the announcement of TTN, inc., in which Qbid has a vested interest, concerning their relationship with Time Warner Cable. For further information please see TTN's website at http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com " ... and ON TTN SITE: <><> "TTN PROUDLY ANNOUNCES A 10 YEAR NATIONAL CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER CABLE. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon. Watch For Further Announcements." <><> In the meantime, just two days ago a U.S. Supreme Court decision was handed down that overthrew Texas' anti sodomy law that was being used to discriminate against gay couples. And just a few days before that, Canada legalized same sex marriages. Certainly we are at a point in history where acceptance of gay rights is accelerating and is in the forefront of the news. Is the order and close timing of the above events a complete coincidence, or is there something more going on here? The scope and (arguably) almost urgent tone of TTN's post sure seems to be signaling the possiblity that TW has now abruptly entered a "get TTN on the air around the country without delay" mode.

===> 23 June 03: PR on 24 or 25 JUNE? Two callers reaching separate people at the company, and reporting on another board, are told there might be a PR tomorrow or Wednesday. Huge volume uptick today to over 97 million shares; price jump at end of day to close at $0.0002!

===> 21 June 03: IMPORTANT POSITIVE BREAKTHROUGH HAS APPARENTLY BEEN REACHED WITH TW IN ONLY LAST DAY OR TWO that will permit the release of considerably more information on the contractual relationship between TW and TTN. A PR may come out the week of 23 June that could reveal this relationship publicly for the first time. If so, the PR will likely also reveal fresh evidence of TW's attempts to get TTN launched at the first opportunity. This could finally mark the beginning of very exciting times for TTN (and for QBID Shareholders). Question:...Could news a couple of days ago proclaiming that same sex marriages in Canada are now legal have anything to do with what is happening?

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#4726 Massachusetts prepares for gays to marry skunksyard 3/26/2004 10:27:40 PM
#4725 West Hollywood mayor's DP ceremony, March 28 skunksyard 3/26/2004 10:24:03 PM
#4724 Constitutional amendments that would ban gay marriage have skunksyard 3/26/2004 10:20:35 PM
#4723 skunksyard, lets hope, thanks.. cobrajet11 3/26/2004 1:50:40 PM
#4722 after the soft launch the sales staff have GreatKhan 3/26/2004 1:37:08 PM
#4721 cobrajet11...I think if they launch nationally they can skunksyard 3/26/2004 1:21:36 PM
#4720 Huh? what aliens? GreatKhan 3/26/2004 11:40:26 AM
#4719 GreatKaun, Aliens...did someone mention Aliens....eom WhiteNOC 3/26/2004 10:02:50 AM
#4718 We need some kind of BUY BACK or cobrajet11 3/26/2004 9:42:39 AM
#4717 very nice GreatKhan 3/26/2004 9:36:51 AM
#4716 Looks like our TTN is in the news foxy 3/26/2004 9:28:52 AM
#4715 The categories of information GreatKhan 3/26/2004 8:51:44 AM
#4714 Family gay programming GreatKhan 3/26/2004 7:57:29 AM
#4713 it is just cautious traders, and mostly day-trader seaflies 3/26/2004 7:01:41 AM
#4712 I realize that TTV is gearing up toward vince 3/26/2004 6:37:58 AM
#4711 sure is nice that info220 's name was cardioverter 3/26/2004 1:06:12 AM
#4710 A little info for anyone interested. Some info220 3/25/2004 11:50:46 PM
#4708 As per AOL Home Page, Gay Themed TV seaflies 3/25/2004 4:19:12 PM
#4707 GreatKhan... [i]Over all from what I can gather it skunksyard 3/25/2004 3:16:24 PM
#4706 Race to the finish. GreatKhan 3/25/2004 3:15:23 PM
#4705 bye til tomorrow. that's my 18 posts for jarvis c 3/25/2004 2:22:51 PM
#4704 a lot of people at RB are speculating jarvis c 3/25/2004 2:22:21 PM
#4703 Well first off QBID doesnt pay the money cardioverter 3/25/2004 12:35:50 PM
#4702 It seems a little wierd GreatKhan 3/25/2004 11:24:51 AM
#4701 It could be a lot of possibilities. sbpr14 3/25/2004 11:20:38 AM
#4700 my great concern is that possibility #3 becomes jarvis c 3/25/2004 11:03:24 AM
#4699 Price possibilities GreatKhan 3/25/2004 11:00:13 AM
#4698 sbpr14- i have one observation to make. if jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:42:35 AM
#4697 I don't know, jarvis..I haven't heard from him dkgross 3/25/2004 10:42:07 AM
#4696 he really!! told you all that?? that's very jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:32:44 AM
#4695 Though I was surprised that it was Frank sbpr14 3/25/2004 10:30:04 AM
#4694 one more week til D-day for MM scum. jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:26:15 AM
#4693 mariner, congratulations on your promotion to assistant. you jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:23:52 AM
#4692 when is his hearing before the parole board? jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:23:02 AM
#4691 are you saying you just called to see jarvis c 3/25/2004 10:21:55 AM
#4690 where's JMHollen when we need him dkgross 3/25/2004 10:16:01 AM
#4689 All anyone has to do to verify whether sbpr14 3/25/2004 10:14:03 AM
#4688 please tell me if i'm wrong on this: jarvis c 3/25/2004 9:35:24 AM
#4687 OT: so if a brother and sister love jarvis c 3/25/2004 9:31:41 AM
#4686 found this on cnn GreatKhan 3/25/2004 9:14:28 AM
#4685 It is like any mystery, GreatKhan 3/25/2004 8:22:08 AM
#4684 GreatKahn...not saying person talked to Frank or not...but skunksyard 3/24/2004 11:08:09 PM
#4683 The great QBID conspiracy GreatKhan 3/24/2004 10:59:34 PM
#4682 ok folks you are assuming that this person cardioverter 3/24/2004 10:21:26 PM
#4681 jarvis...no. eom skunksyard 3/24/2004 9:38:14 PM
#4680 you echo my thoughts! and why wouldn't he jarvis c 3/24/2004 8:31:22 PM
#4679 Is it possible that Frank is still buying Ray Clarkston 3/24/2004 8:20:10 PM
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posted March 27, 2004 21:46            

TNN= THE NASHVILLE NETWORK (LOL!!!!)

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Originally posted by $CashMaker$:
Can Someone make a Spread and PLEASE decifer the differences between

TNN & TTN & TMM

I see THEM mentioned in this and THEY are making some confused on the research and within the boards being posted. If there is no clarification, we all are bombing away at EACH.

Thanks,
Chuck

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posted March 27, 2004 23:57            

Thanks for the response. I'm expecting a few "KILL THE BASHER" responses in the future. Glad you're keeping your head on straight. Just FYI, I'm currently holding a decent stash of QBID and will purchase another big chunk next week. Yes, even though I think this is possible a scam. I realize that even if it is, it'll make me some money in the short term.. nothing wrong with that. Just need to find the right exit point...

I just think that even though people are excited about this company, they shouldn't let their emotions cloud their judgment. I have some legitimate concerns and I'm surprised that others don't as well.

1) Current press releases are exactly the same as 4 year old press releases. Not sure what's changed, aside from the socio-political climate.

2) Cheesy www.qbid.net website that boldly states on the front page "as long as I'm associated with this company, there won't be a roll back or split.." It looks like this site was half-a$$edly thrown up specifically to get penny investors excited, the only people who'd really care about a statement like that. Shouldn't the homepage of your company talk a bit more about what it is you actually do? I realize they have another website that covers those bases, but at the moment it's not terribly informative. Also, I'm a bit weary about the qualification "as long as I'm associated with this company..." What's to prevent him from no longer being associated with the company? It's like the old bar trick where you put a shot glass under a hat and bet someone you can drink the shot without touching the hat... You tell the guy you just drank it, so he should check. The other guy lifts the hat to see, exposing the drink that you promptly grab. You drank it, but you didn't touch the hat.....

3) Lack of news from outside sources. Given the current controversies surrounding gay issues, you'd think that all of these PRs would get into the hands of someone at CNN, FNC, MSNBC, etc and actually stir up some publicity. Right now all we have is news from the company itself. Anyone could register a company and shoot out PRs all day long...

4) $9.95 a month subsciption? Satellite radio had to overcome the hurdle of getting people to pay $10 a month for 120 channels... I'm not sure how many people are willing to pay that for 1 channel.

5) Read the warning page about Pink Sheets on the frontpage of www.allstocks.com.. there are a few warning signs in that article that should send the red flags way up on this one. One in particular is the location:

"Other suspect cities, which would require EXTENSIVE DD to justify,
include New York City, Dallas, Houston, Palm Springs or other cities of the Coachella Valley, Ft. Lauderdale or other cities in South Florida, any city in Nevada, ANY city in Canada where everyone can short-sell penny stocks, any other "resort" city..."

"If they say the company is moving, under construction or give ANY reason whatsoever for not allowing you there...you have your answer..they are bogus..don't believe them..."

"And if the company does not report their financials to the SEC. . .RUN AWAY. Don't even consider them, because they will surely rip you off any way that they can. And if they SAY that they will soon be reporting their "audited" financials. . .run even faster. . .this means they have NO INTENTION of filing with the SEC. And even if they say "we will be filing with the SEC" or even "we HAVE submitted our financials to the
SEC." DON'T BELIEVE THEM."

I couldn't find anything on the SEC website about them. EDGAR didn't dig up anything for Triangle, TMM, TTN, QBID, Olsen, NTI, nothing. And I think their website has said for the last few months that they're in the process of moving. Has anyone in CA been to their office? I seem to recall a thread in which someone stopped by to take pictures...

On the other hand...

1) It really *is* time the GLTB community got their own voice on the air that didn't just include them as gimmicks (weird dating shows, makeovers, etc).

2) I dug around for some info on Barbara Lamont, president of NTI, the satellite provider that QBID has signed up with. I think the company looks sketchy as can be, but Lamont is apparently fairly respected in the business community. Here's an article from INC in 1990... not entirely flattering to Mrs. Lamont, but if you google her, you'll see plenty about her, so she actually does exist and the press releases don't embellish her resume. http://www.inc.com/magazine/19900101/4988.html

3) For .0017 and .003 (my two entry points so far), it's worh the risk. The possibility of making a lot far outweights the potential of losing a few thousand.

Anyway.. hoping I'm wrong and that this really does shoot through the roof. I'm pretty confident the stock will take off within the next 30-45 days, but then again, I'm not at all confident that the station will...

posted March 28, 2004 02:26            

NO. 1: THE PR CURRENT IS SIMILIAR BUT THEN AGAIN, AREN'T WE ACCOMPLISHING THE SAME THING? THERE IS NEW RECENT PR WHICH BRINGS NEW LIGHT TO THE BROADCAST.

NO. 2: I BELIEVE THE CURRENT WEBSITE IS HTTP://WWW.TRIANGLETELEVISIONNETWORK.COM WHICH I'LL ADD IS DONE THE WAY I PERSONALLY LIKE IT. STRAIGHT (NO PUN INTENDED) AND TO THE POINT. I SEE THE WEB DESIGNERS PUT TOGETHER WEBSITES THEY THINK ARE THE GREATEST/COOL ONLY FOR THE "NORMAL" PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO EVEN ENTER THE SITE LET ALONE NAVIGATE IT. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S BOLD THAT NO SPLIT WILL HAPPEN AND AGAIN, THE FOCUS IS TRAINGLE TELEVISION WEBSITE AND NOT THE QBID ONE. I LOVE IT YOU ARE SKEPTICAL SO IT'S IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. ADDITIONALLY, ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMPANY WOULD BE COMPLETE REMOVAL SINCE HE IS C.E.O. NOW I DO REALLY LIKE YOUR HAT AND GLASS TRICK.

NO. 3: THERE HAS BEEN "OUTSIDE NEWS" POSTINGS ABOUT TTN. SCAN THROUGH THE EXACT POST AND YOU'LL FIND SOME FROM ME AND OTHERS.

NO. 4: WE ARE GOING TO SEE EYE-EYE ON THIS ONE. THE ONE THING I HAVE A HARD TIME SWALLOWING (UGH) IS A FEE-BASED PROGRAM. TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT EVERYTHING ELSE I KNOW, THAT IS MINOR AND DOES NOT OUTWEIGHT THE SHORT TERM FOR THIS STOCK.

I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE POSTING REGARDING PINKSHEET STOCKS AND THE WARNINGS.

SOMEONE HERE HAS IN FACT BEEN TO THE OFFICES AND EVEN POSTED SOME PHOTOS IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

AND IN YOUR CONCLUSION, THE STOCK WILL GO UP BUT WILL THE BROADCAST? THAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT AGAIN, MOST OF US DON'T CARE WITH A EXIT $1.00 OR LESS.

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posted March 28, 2004 08:28            

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