posted December 22, 2003 21:27            

The price did move up considerably today. I believe that the MM have had difficulty accumulating shares to trade as indicated by the light volume on down days. I do expect a breakout above .05 to occur very soon. As long as we continue to establish a good base. Yes, I would recommend buying partial positions in the low to mid .03's. I learned fast that when you place larger orders... it is sometimes considerably more difficult to fill as this is a .03 cent stock. I personally have accumulated in lots of 50,000 and 100,000 at different prices. With these MM's you need to be very patient. I hope you are able to accumulate more in the morning. MM did signal Friday that they need more shares... I do not believe they have accumlated those shares yet. They may try again tommorrow... which will give you a great opportunity to buy more in the low .03's.

Regards,
Mach

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Originally posted by Magoo:
Ranger

Good to see that you got in.

Mach

I did have an order in for 3 million shares and got 900,000. It went up faster than I thought but came to settle at .035. I will regroup tomorrow and try to fill my shares. look for another jump in the price so I would advise everyone to get in with what they can.

My group is going to put up somewhere in the range of one to three million dollars after we get some facts straighten out with JF. This will take place after they have the web site up and have showen more preformance.

At that time it is safer for this kind of money to be placed.

I have ridden in on your shirt tails on this one so soon it will be time for you to ride mine.

Thanks
Ron B.

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posted December 22, 2003 21:29            

quote:

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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Observations of Fleming........

I am extremely confident that this man will bring this company to much higher highs than anyone can imagine.I will not sell one share of this stock for at least two years and this is why.I tend to look at the people behind the business because that is the steam that runs the engine,everything else is just a byproduct of that steam.Fleming as shown by his actions is extremely calculated and is a practical thinker and I like that.He chose a business model that is at the core of American society as we know it.It attacks every demographic you can think of,so you have a huge marketplace at your disposal.He does not PR you to death with fluff,which lets you know he is a no nonsense type of guy.When there will be an announcement it will merit much attention.He did not select a plush office but a practical location to streamline the overhead.This shows me that he cares about keeping the business profitable and not worried about his ego.The name change shows the direction of PGHI will be in the entertainment industry.So they are focusing in on their future direction.VeeGeez being the launching pad.He will not release the site until it is 100% to his liking.This shows me that he cares about his product and the image the product will present.Fleming was smart enough not to try and reinvent the wheel.He took the best and duplicated the business model with his own twist.That leads me to believe that he is smart enough to know what works and run with it.I like his thinking process and as a direct result believe in his product.It is my belief that within months of the release of the site and some hard numbers that the Big Money will be in Kentucky knocking on that little warehouse door just begging him to take their Institutionl money.This is not a 100 yard dash for me, this is a long term investment and a hefty one at that so I for one like the smooth gradual step by step growth the stock is taking.
The stock as witnessed by the stockholders on this forum has attracted an unusal group.Everyboby working together for a common cause asking great questions and receiving great answers.I would say that we are all very much in the same mold as Fleming and that makes me believe that we are all headed in the right direction.I have scoured thru many a forum but the effort that is put forth here is something special.

TRSTURGUT-18

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posted December 22, 2003 21:35            

quote:

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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Observations of Fleming........

I am extremely confident that this man will bring this company to much higher highs than anyone can imagine.I will not sell one share of this stock for at least two years and this is why.I tend to look at the people behind the business because that is the steam that runs the engine,everything else is just a byproduct of that steam.Fleming as shown by his actions is extremely calculated and is a practical thinker and I like that.He chose a business model that is at the core of American society as we know it.It attacks every demographic you can think of,so you have a huge marketplace at your disposal.He does not PR you to death with fluff,which lets you know he is a no nonsense type of guy.When there will be an announcement it will merit much attention.He did not select a plush office but a practical location to streamline the overhead.This shows me that he cares about keeping the business profitable and not worried about his ego.The name change shows the direction of PGHI will be in the entertainment industry.So they are focusing in on their future direction.VeeGeez being the launching pad.He will not release the site until it is 100% to his liking.This shows me that he cares about his product and the image the product will present.Fleming was smart enough not to try and reinvent the wheel.He took the best and duplicated the business model with his own twist.That leads me to believe that he is smart enough to know what works and run with it.I like his thinking process and as a direct result believe in his product.It is my belief that within months of the release of the site and some hard numbers that the Big Money will be in Kentucky knocking on that little warehouse door just begging him to take their Institutionl money.This is not a 100 yard dash for me, this is a long term investment and a hefty one at that so I for one like the smooth gradual step by step growth the stock is taking.
The stock as witnessed by the stockholders on this forum has attracted an unusal group.Everyboby working together for a common cause asking great questions and receiving great answers.I would say that we are all very much in the same mold as Fleming and that makes me believe that we are all headed in the right direction.I have scoured thru many a forum but the effort that is put forth here is something special.

TRSTURGUT-18

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posted December 22, 2003 21:46            

I will try to purchase in groups rather than all at once. I do not want to cause a feeding frenzy and drive the prices up. I would rather pick up what I can in the .032 to .036 range and maybe upset some of the MM.

With a little study I have seen too many people buy at the peak of the day and then blame others when they panic and sell at a loss.

All the stocks I buy will be held for the long term. When I say I there are actually six of us buying.

Thanks
Ron B.

posted December 22, 2003 21:48            

****The future is SO bright here*****

posted December 22, 2003 22:06            

I hope to post a photo of this place tomorrow.

posted December 22, 2003 22:19            

QUOTE / HISTORICAL QUOTES
POINT GROUP HLDGS INC (OTCBB:PGHI)

Intraday PricesDate Time High Low Close Volume

12/22/03 16:01:46 0.034 0.034 0.034 69,000
12/22/03 16:00:14 0.035 0.034 0.034 40,000
12/22/03 15:59:16 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 15:57:42 0.034 0.034 0.034 6,000
12/22/03 15:53:57 0.034 0.034 0.034 61,000
12/22/03 15:50:57 0.036 0.036 0.036 13,200
12/22/03 15:48:18 0.036 0.035 0.035 7,000
12/22/03 15:46:06 0.036 0.035 0.036 224,500
12/22/03 15:39:47 0.036 0.035 0.035 60,000
12/22/03 15:35:28 0.036 0.035 0.035 154,500
12/22/03 15:32:14 0.035 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 15:27:14 0.035 0.035 0.035 31,000
12/22/03 15:26:17 0.035 0.035 0.035 29,000
12/22/03 15:20:33 0.035 0.034 0.034 110,000
12/22/03 15:18:48 0.035 0.035 0.035 180,000
12/22/03 15:07:13 0.035 0.034 0.034 51,000
12/22/03 14:58:44 0.036 0.035 0.035 108,000
12/22/03 14:38:24 0.036 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 14:36:08 0.036 0.035 0.035 60,000
12/22/03 14:34:00 0.036 0.034 0.035 444,000
12/22/03 14:31:37 0.035 0.034 0.035 200,000
12/22/03 14:30:36 0.035 0.035 0.035 100,000
12/22/03 14:24:40 0.035 0.034 0.034 200,000
12/22/03 14:23:36 0.036 0.035 0.035 68,000
12/22/03 14:21:49 0.035 0.035 0.035 6,000
12/22/03 14:20:37 0.036 0.034 0.036 110,600
12/22/03 14:03:23 0.034 0.034 0.034 4,000
12/22/03 13:54:01 0.035 0.034 0.035 75,000
12/22/03 13:52:04 0.035 0.034 0.035 200,000
12/22/03 13:16:07 0.037 0.036 0.036 5,000
12/22/03 13:12:05 0.037 0.036 0.036 30,000
12/22/03 13:08:12 0.037 0.036 0.036 6,000
12/22/03 12:52:35 0.035 0.034 0.035 34,000
12/22/03 12:51:26 0.035 0.034 0.035 149,900
12/22/03 12:39:25 0.035 0.034 0.035 68,000
12/22/03 12:18:40 0.035 0.034 0.035 34,600
12/22/03 12:09:30 0.036 0.034 0.035 100,000
12/22/03 11:50:18 0.035 0.034 0.035 30,000
12/22/03 11:33:46 0.035 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 11:28:56 0.034 0.034 0.034 25,000
12/22/03 11:27:32 0.037 0.037 0.037 9,400
12/22/03 11:19:47 0.035 0.034 0.034 20,000
12/22/03 11:18:29 0.037 0.036 0.036 47,300
12/22/03 11:16:50 0.038 0.036 0.037 49,000
12/22/03 11:16:00 0.039 0.036 0.037 35,000
12/22/03 11:14:13 0.039 0.039 0.039 5,000
12/22/03 10:57:05 0.039 0.039 0.039 25,000
12/22/03 10:54:35 0.039 0.038 0.038 6,000
12/22/03 10:53:28 0.039 0.038 0.039 29,000
12/22/03 10:51:20 0.039 0.036 0.036 40,400
12/22/03 10:50:35 0.040 0.038 0.040 208,200
12/22/03 10:49:05 0.040 0.039 0.040 90,000
12/22/03 10:47:45 0.040 0.037 0.040 55,000
12/22/03 10:45:52 0.037 0.034 0.037 189,100
12/22/03 10:44:26 0.035 0.034 0.034 35,000
12/22/03 10:42:21 0.035 0.034 0.035 70,000
12/22/03 10:41:36 0.034 0.034 0.034 17,200
12/22/03 10:39:54 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 10:37:56 0.034 0.034 0.034 60,000
12/22/03 10:36:48 0.034 0.034 0.034 50,000
12/22/03 10:34:49 0.033 0.033 0.033 65,200
12/22/03 10:27:40 0.034 0.033 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 10:23:02 0.034 0.033 0.033 35,000
12/22/03 10:20:57 0.034 0.033 0.033 12,000
12/22/03 10:18:23 0.034 0.033 0.033 70,000
12/22/03 10:13:17 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,500
12/22/03 10:13:13 0.034 0.032 0.032 36,200
12/22/03 10:11:20 0.034 0.033 0.034 51,200
12/22/03 10:08:11 0.033 0.031 0.032 155,600
12/22/03 10:06:06 0.034 0.034 0.034 16,000
12/22/03 10:02:58 0.034 0.034 0.034 6,000
12/22/03 09:54:04 0.034 0.033 0.033 200,000
12/22/03 09:52:23 0.032 0.032 0.032 5,000
12/22/03 09:51:22 0.032 0.032 0.032 6,000
12/22/03 09:47:48 0.032 0.032 0.032 3,500
12/22/03 09:43:02 0.032 0.032 0.032 15,000
12/22/03 09:41:07 0.032 0.032 0.032 10,000
12/22/03 09:39:25 0.032 0.032 0.032 65,000

Each line is the combination of trades for a 90 sec period
15-20 min Quote Delay
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posted December 22, 2003 22:20            

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Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!

****The future is SO bright here*****

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posted December 22, 2003 22:22            

I was lucky enough to get in at the 0.008 level with 2M shares and I hope that PGHI will boost my portfolio in the year to come!

GLTA!

quote:

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Originally posted by Magoo:
Ranger

Good to see that you got in.

Mach

I did have an order in for 3 million shares and got 900,000. It went up faster than I thought but came to settle at .035. I will regroup tomorrow and try to fill my shares. look for another jump in the price so I would advise everyone to get in with what they can.

My group is going to put up somewhere in the range of one to three million dollars after we get some facts straighten out with JF. This will take place after they have the web site up and have showen more preformance.

At that time it is safer for this kind of money to be placed.

I have ridden in on your shirt tails on this one so soon it will be time for you to ride mine.

Thanks
Ron B.

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posted December 22, 2003 22:28            

j160e

quote:

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Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!

****The future is SO bright here*****

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posted December 22, 2003 22:29            

As reported on Dec. 17 there Alexa Traffic ranking was 167,331. Alexa updated there traffic ranking to 164,579.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=veegeez.com

They also show now that VeeGeeZ last 3 mths is up 350% compared to 340% from Dec. 17

quote:

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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here is something of interest.

List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats

Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com

Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com

VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/

These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.

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posted December 22, 2003 22:47            

Thank you for the kind words.This is starting to breed a life of its own or as you previously stated a cult following.I certainly hope 2 extremely important facets take place with VeeGeez which is not easy to read at this stage of the game.

1-Inventory should not only be extensive but it is imperative that 20% of that inventory MUST be hard to find titles.The comsumer must know that they can count on VeeGeez to provide them with a product that is not easlily accessible from competitors.That is KEY.This will build that cult following you refer to.Give them something they can't get somewhere else and they will keep on coming back no matter what the cost.Turning the inventory is the key to profit so by supplying hard to find titles as well as the basics you create a cash flow from two seperate entities.

2-Fleming hopefully has a huge mailing list that he will attack several days before the site comes up.They should send a mailer with VeeGeez money for various discounts that can be applied to the comsumers first 10 purchases.This will not only keep them coming back at a minimal cost but it will create great word of mouth business and you cannot put a dollar value on that.

I have done it enough times and the formula
works.

TRSTURGUT-18

posted December 22, 2003 22:52            

We are going in with the larger amount of cash as the company grows into what they have planned. I am going to be talking to John Flemming about investing these funds as we see the developments take place in the time frame which he has determined.

PGHI has the plan in place to take it to a very high level over the next couple of years.

We sound like big time investors but we are actually just bussinessmen who have deceided to invest. I do not know much about the pennies and have had brokers do most of my investing in the other markets. The other regulars on this board actually do have a better handle on what to expect better than I.

We do have more cash than most as a whole but I am sure that people like the regulars on the board are better that I to give advise.

I look at it this way when you are dealing in these matters the person with a little more money is like someone who brings the biggest boots in a butt kicking contest and everyone else is barefoot.

posted December 22, 2003 22:53            

quote:

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Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!

****The future is SO bright here*****

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posted December 23, 2003 00:01            

More investors to build up the PPS... and hopefully hold for the long term.

posted December 23, 2003 00:17            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Does someone have those keywords handy to put on my web site. I can't seem to locate them on this thread

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posted December 23, 2003 00:36            

Now if we get a 60mil up volume day we could potentialy see a climb to .12 PPS in one day.

posted December 23, 2003 01:03            

1) the 4x multiple was in a lower price range, allowing more shares to be purchased, so its not likely we will have that big of volume- but possible. I would say 20-40 could be expected on a breakout

2) It will be a breakout into a range we havent been in before, so the overhead will be slim, and easy to run up real fast.

In other words, we might not have as much volume as before, but we wont need as much either.

Today we went from .03 t0 .04 on under 2 mil!!!!

SLOW WALK TO .05, THEN BREAK OUT, PLEEEASE!!!

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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
I was looking @ a chart for PGHI and the volume bought around 10/21 was about 60mil shares... as it looks to me. The PPS went from below .01 up to nearly .04 (4x in PPS) in one day.

Now if we get a 60mil up volume day we could potentialy see a climb to .12 PPS in one day.

I know Mach has been stating this all along but now I see how that potential is there through my own chart analysis.

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posted December 23, 2003 09:23            

I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.

I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.

Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!

posted December 23, 2003 09:40            

quote:

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Originally posted by Marcidius:
Anybody else notice something about the stokes...

I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.

I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.

Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!

~Marc

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posted December 23, 2003 09:46            

quote:

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Looking pretty good today. MM all over the place... One left at .036. mach

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posted December 23, 2003 09:46            

quote:

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Originally posted by Marcidius:
Anybody else notice something about the stokes...

I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.

I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.

Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!

~Marc

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posted December 23, 2003 09:50            

quote:

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have a question. I put in an order for 58000. It showed up in my portfoilio, but nothing on the last sale....then I see a 100 for last sale. A quick explanantion would be nice. cabbage, mach

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posted December 23, 2003 09:50            

quote:

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have a question. I put in an order for 58000. It showed up in my portfoilio, but nothing on the last sale....then I see a 100 for last sale. A quick explanantion would be nice. cabbage, mach

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posted December 23, 2003 09:52            

Was I right about the 100.

posted December 23, 2003 09:54            

quote:

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
These asks are going to have to come down...

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posted December 23, 2003 09:55            

HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE 2003: VIDEO GAMES

Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Unless they've dropped some clear hints, choosing a gift for the die-hard video gamers in the family could be overwhelming this holiday season. An estimated 250 new games are expected in this pivotal season for game companies - it accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales.Whether you prefer adaptations of Hollywood blockbusters, realistic war epics or kid-friendly go-cart racing, there's something for just about every gamer.

posted December 23, 2003 09:56            

BTW, PSU thanks for the link, I'm checking it out right now..

~Marc

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very good Marc, you are starting to become a good technician. Stokes are a measure of oversold and overbought prices, when the fast crosses over the slow, its usually an indication of the selling coming to an end, and a trend reversal- keep up the good work!

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posted December 23, 2003 09:57            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mav:
I wanted to share these news with you, this demostrate the potential we are facing...

HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE 2003: VIDEO GAMES

Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Unless they've dropped some clear hints, choosing a gift for the die-hard video gamers in the family could be overwhelming this holiday season. An estimated 250 new games are expected in this pivotal season for game companies - it accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales.Whether you prefer adaptations of Hollywood blockbusters, realistic war epics or kid-friendly go-cart racing, there's something for just about every gamer.

Published on December 5, 2003, Page 8G, The Miami Herald

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posted December 23, 2003 09:58            

FOR THE TRUE FAN, A WORLD OF CHOICES

Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Choosing a gift for die-hard video gamers could prove overwhelming this year, what with an estimated 250 new games expected in a pivotal season that accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales. Nintendo's GameCube and Game Boy Advance, Sony's PlayStation2 and Microsoft's Xbox still dominate, with personal computers accounting for a relative niche audience.And with the next round of consoles years away, Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony have been .....

posted December 23, 2003 10:06            

quote:

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I like the idea that there is so much out there. Makes renting make strong economical sense. Will allow gamers to enjoy a variety of games at a portion of the cost. mach

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posted December 23, 2003 10:10            

quote:

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I'm waiting at .034 for a dumper-

I see what you mean about GWDL Mach, sales going through at .0017 and 18, but not for me and my ask is 16! Offloaded 20,000 of it this morning- so frustrating!

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