posted October 08, 2004 12:48            

BATTLE OVER SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Tension grips gay rights caravan

Denver -- The nearly four dozen riders on the National Marriage Equality Express -- a caravan of activists traveling cross-country to fight for marriage rights for same-sex couples -- were on edge.

They'd encountered little hostility and a lot of warmth in the places they'd visited in Nevada, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado. On Wednesday, they had visited Laramie -- the town where Matthew Shepard, a gay student at the University of Wyoming, had been brutally murdered six years ago. Most considered the stop a highlight of the trip, but that horrible tragedy and the personal memories of violence the visit triggered were on their minds Thursday morning when one of the caravan passengers inexplicably disappeared.

Sometime after midnight Wednesday, Anthony Perez, a documentary filmmaker following the journey for the new gay and lesbian channel, the Q Television Network, walked out of his Denver hotel room without his cell phone or card key. He did not show up when the riders met in the hotel lobby the next morning. He didn't make it to the breakfast meeting with local gay and lesbian supporters or to the rally in Denver's Civic Center Plaza. When Perez still hadn't shown up by 11 a.m., the scheduled departure time, the bus left without him. Bewildered, Roland Torres, the other half of the documentary team, stayed behind and notified police.

The group's leaders, concerned that the riders might encounter anti-gay violence in the American heartland, had been lecturing from the start about safety. "I'm very, very angry," organizer Molly McKay said of Perez's disappearance. Her eyes were red-rimmed. "If you can't commit to the buddy system, take the next bus home."

At a memorial gathering the previous day in the Laramie bar where Matthew Shepard had stopped the night he was attacked, several of the riders had told personal stories about violence they had experienced. Kelly Rivera Hart had nearly been shot -- he didn't know if it was a BB gun or a real gun -- while he waited at a bus stop in San Francisco. Joe Alfano had been beaten up on the Lower East Side in New York. Davina Kotulski, who came out when she was 15, was harassed all through high school in the small Oregon town where she grew up. When she was 18, someone at a party threw a table on her and threatened to gang rape her.

The stories they'd been sharing hung heavily as the riders formed a circle and silently held hands, before filing soberly back onto the bus in Denver and resuming their journey -- which was starting to feel like a strange psychology experiment.

As the mountains of Colorado melted into the flat plains of Kansas, the mood on the bus was tense. After traveling at a relentless pace for three days, the riders were exhausted. They were drained from the emotional intensity of their encounters -- one woman said she cried so much it was like watching the movie "Terms of Endearment" over and over. And now one of their number was missing.

A couple of hours later at a rest stop, McKay picked up the microphone. "Good news," she said. She had gotten a cell phone call from the filmmakers. Though the reception was poor, this much she confirmed: "Anthony's fine ... They'll meet us in St. Louis."

Claps, sighs.

Three days earlier -- before the exhaustion, the giddiness, the emotional circus, the hours curled up in small bus seats -- organizers announced that any latecomers on the bus would be charged with cleaning the bathroom.

Now the cry started from the back. "Latrine duty! Latrine duty! Latrine duty!"

Speaking again by phone later in the afternoon, Perez explained what had happened. He had gone to the hotel lounge for a late-night drink and had been stopped by a security guard. Perez, a 26-year-old Latino man, apparently didn't have the right answers for the guard: He had accidentally left his key behind, he didn't know his room number.

The guard called the police, who took him to a detoxification center. Without his cell phone or contact numbers or even quarters for a pay phone, he hadn't been able to reach anyone until he was released in the afternoon -- to the enormous relief of Torres, the other filmmaker.

"I was petrified" that Perez had been attacked, Torres said. "It's so sad that that's a knee-jerk reaction for gay people."
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Caravan coverage

posted October 08, 2004 13:00            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.

Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...

-R

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posted October 08, 2004 13:26            

quote:

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Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.

Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...

-R

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posted October 08, 2004 13:28            

READ THIS from the Wall Street Journal:
http://www.investing.wsj.com/tools-body4.html

A little preview, click link to read all;

Message Boards

There's no question that message boards can be a great resource. But they can be dangerous places, and investors have lost fortunes by trading on information they read on the boards. Securities regulators say they are troubled by the fact that so many investors seem to believe the message boards are full of hot "sure-thing" stock tips.

Message boards shouldn't be viewed as any different from a crowded room full of strangers. Trading on advice there is akin to trading on stock tips you receive from a stranger's conversation you overhear at a party. Still, people do it all the time. In fairness, message-board users have at times come up with quality "scoops" about companies -- catching wind of a merger before it happens, or learning that the company has secured a patent on a new technology. But often the information on the boards is pure speculation.

It's important to understand that just about everyone who posts messages has a motive, and it may be different from yours. When money is at stake -- as it is with any investment -- there's really no such thing as a completely objective discussion. People don't want to hear bad news about companies they invest in, and even the best-intentioned debates often end up in mudslinging. Likewise, it's important to remember that short sellers -- those who bet that the price of a stock will decline -- can profit by stirring up panic on a message board. People also can profit by stirring up excitement on the boards about stocks they own.

All these things point to the importance of not relying on information you read on the boards. "You should assume everything you read online is false until you can confirm it somewhere else," said John Stark, chief of the SEC's Office of Internet Enforcement. "People know not to believe everything they read, but think that somehow the Internet makes things more legitimate, and it certainly does not."

Here are some things to watch out for, and ignore, on the boards:

Bashers. Just as stock promoters and other hypesters profit by pumping a stock, bashers, or those critical of a company, can profit by getting a stock's price to fall. Message-board participants who are positive on a stock are always quick to suggest that anyone who bashes the stock must be a short seller -- someone betting the stock's price will fall. Most of the time, that's just plain wrong. But the SEC says it is becoming more and more concerned that some people on the boards who appear to be critical observers are actually slamming a company so that they can profit from a short sale. It's irresponsible to dismiss anyone with a negative comment as a short seller, but it would also be a mistake to think that anyone bashing a stock is just trying to save you from a bad investment. Do your own research.

posted October 08, 2004 13:48            

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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
.035!!!!! They shouldn't be allowed to make those mistakes, I almost had a stroke!!
Terry

[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 08, 2004).]

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posted October 08, 2004 13:55            

Ralph

posted October 08, 2004 14:02            

From "the most" credible source.

Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:34:50 PM
Post #of 29025

RCN Manhattan should be on today.eom

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Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:37:10 PM
Post #of 29025

Others will follow. no dates,do not know the order.

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Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:41:24 PM
Post #of 29025

delay was technical, S a t e l l i t e s

it happens.....when launching a new network, it simple happens

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Originally posted by Qbidder:
hello everyone
just on to check the charts and wondering if anyone has an idea why the drop of 40% in a month of the pps?
BigT wondering if you can shed some light on the red?

Ralph

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posted October 08, 2004 14:07            

hope all is well

posted October 08, 2004 14:09            

quote:

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Originally posted by Qbidder:
Thanx BigT
this is Ralph ex Sottotono
email is the same but I had problems with signing into Allstocks so the easiest thing was to change Username.

hope all is well

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posted October 08, 2004 14:16            

Late last night on TV, I saw a kind of nasty looking guy pitching his "trading" products. I got the same feeling then. However, instead of trading, this guy "shares" his wisdom with others (for a price).

posted October 08, 2004 14:16            

Qbidder...LOL! All of us here on this QBID thread have invested in a safety "helmet" for all of the head-banging!! But, hey, knee pads and a cup might work, too! LOL

posted October 08, 2004 14:31            

can you tickle the Q's feet so maybe it might jump a little?

posted October 08, 2004 14:38            

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
Hey Clyde, I can visualize your Frank of Mash fame daytrading. LOL

Late last night on TV, I saw a kind of nasty looking guy pitching his "trading" products. I got the same feeling then. However, instead of trading, this guy "shares" his wisdom with others (for a price).

Are we not lucky to get our advise for free?

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RobinO (U0) can be hot lips hoolihan

posted October 08, 2004 14:48            

Beware of the Basher!
Investopedia Staff (Investopedia.com)

Whether you are fairly new to online investing or a seasoned veteran, you've probably seen the message boards and chat rooms that focus on stocks. Many of these boards make tabloids look tame, churning out rumor after rumor 24 hours a day. Some of the more popular boards are getting upwards of 10,000 posts daily. Here we look at how the practice of bashing takes place on these boards, and how you can handle bashers when you encounter them.

The Advent of the Internet
No technology has changed the financial industry more than the Internet, which has allowed individual investors from every corner of the globe to meet and talk about the prospects and risks of companies. The free flow of information has changed the very way we invest, but this mass communication does not come without a price. The anonymity of the Internet has allowed unscrupulous people to distort and control artificially the price of a stock--these people are the bashers.

What Is a Basher?
A basher is a person who lurks in the shadows of investment chat rooms spreading calculated, and almost always unfounded, confidence-shaking news about a stock. The basher's purpose is to instigate a sell off that will in turn drive the stock price down, either for his or her own benefit or that of his or her employer.

This practice may seem fairly simple, but there is a science behind it. Supposedly, reputable companies and investment firms sometimes hire bashers to help make the conditions for a takeover more favorable. You see, when one company wants to buy another, stock price is king. If the stock of a multi-billion dollar target company changes even by one dollar, the difference in the price of the takeover can be millions of dollars. A basher who successfully pushes down the price of a stock may receive a very lucrative compensation.

How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock.

Here are some basher tactics that online chatters should be aware of:

Bashers lie! – Bashers have no ethical code that prevents them from lying. They will lie blatantly and often.

Bashers usually bash stocks that are more volatile – Bashers usually only go after stocks that could show a large increase or decrease in price. There's a low probability that a basher would ever be able to influence a company with a huge float like General Electric, for example.

Bashers will use any news – Bashers will not favor recent news over old news, or vice versa. They'll take information out of context if it will help depress a stock.

Bashers exploit investors' lack of knowledge – Most bashers rely on the notion that most investors don't check their facts and, as such, will use false information to sway people.

Bashers post frequently – Bashers are a persistent bunch. Through the use of repetition, they attempt to wear down those on the long side of stocks.

Bashers can travel in packs – It is common for a group of bashers to enter a chat room quietly and carefully and feed off each other's posts to dominate subtly the sentiment of the room.

Who Are Bashers' Prey?
As you can probably gather from the above list of tactics, bashers do not target well-informed investors but those who are easily persuaded. Bashers know that "green" or rookie investors are inherently wary of the market and oversensitive to bad news.

Anyone in a chat room who claims to be your friend and have your best interests in mind is likely a basher--after all, why would anyone give good advice for free in a chat room ? It's doubtful that experts such as Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch frequent these rooms. (Read more on Peter Lynch here.)

Levels of Bashers' Skills
The most effective bashers have strategies that are very well thought out. They often develop a character who draws attention and builds trust from others on the chat board. Good bashers try to appear sophisticated: they never use profanity because that would cause people to ignore them. Quite often, these bashers will respond condescendingly to their questioners for asking such "stupid" questions.

The purpose is to get a reaction from other posters: the more reaction, the more the room will be disrupted. To throw yet another wrench into the works, bashers often send in another person to side with the longs of a stock. Again, the idea behind this is to distract people, and to spread rumors and confusion throughout the room.

Not all bashers display such proficiency and dedication. Like any profession or sport, the bashing world has participants at different skill levels. It helps to know how the experts operate differently from the novices, so here is a list of the skills displayed in the different "leagues" (to use a baseball analogy) of bashers:

Major League – The major league bashers are excellent at what they do. The better the bashers are at their game, the tougher they are to spot. They are online constantly, always attacking and attempting to make positive postings look unreasonable. Those in the major leagues are masters at manipulation, knowing how to convince other chatters that a particular stock should be sold immediately.

AAA – These bashers are able to twist the meanings of words, phrases, quotes, and press releases quite compellingly; however, they do not have the same influence over others as those in the major leagues.

AA - These bashers are still learning the subtleties of the art of appearing like a trustworthy, sophisticated fellow investor. For example, a AA basher may react overzealously to comments that question his or her perpetually bearish attitude.

Bat Boy – Although this level of basher knows the profession and has known some major leaguers, he or she is utterly useless in the ways of bashing. The bat boy bashers make themselves obvious, using profanity, name calling and irrational arguments. These bashers are easily identified.

How to Handle Bashers
There are basically two ways in which chatters can handle bashers. Firstly, you should simply ignore them because they want and feed off attention. If they aren't getting any, they'll likely slink away and attempt to prey on more receptive victims. But sometimes the tenacious basher invading a good chat room needs to be confronted. Here are some tips that, if you must confront a basher, will likely help:

Do your due diligence. The phrase, "knowledge is power" is no more true than in this instance. Try to post a number of well-researched messages that confound the premise of a basher's arguments.

Do not engage bashers directly, but instead post general and open-ended messages disputing bashers' posts.

Remind those in the chat room that the mere fact that something is in writing does not make it the truth.

Conclusion
Bashing is always happening, so it's important for you to realize there are people out there who make a good living out of manipulating investors. Participating in a chat forum can be both enjoyable and insightful, but always remember to look at each message with the knowledge that its sender may not be sincere.

Cheers,

posted October 08, 2004 14:54            

quote:

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Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.

Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...

-R

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posted October 08, 2004 15:24            

Monday July 12, 6:00 am ET Frank Olsen of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. States: There is No Business or Economic Reason for the Current Share Value Decline.

TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC (QBID)
0.0033 -0.0004 (-10.81%)

OH FRANK, YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME THE SHORTERS. YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME THE MARKET MAKERS. YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME SANTA CLAUSE. BUT HOW ABOUT A DOSE OF REALITY:

YOU FRANK OLSEN, YOU ARE THE ONE SPEWING LIES.

YOU FRANK OLSEN ARE THE ONE MIS-REPRESENTING YOUR COMPANY.

YOU FRANK OLSEN CONTINUE TO TELL US "Q IS ON THE MOVE" AND "THINGS ARE GOING GREAT".

YOU FRANK OLSEN ARE THE ONE WHO TWISTS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT FOR SOME GAY OLYMPICS AS A REVENUE SOURCE FOR QBID.

YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US YOUR THE "SOLE" BROADCAST RIGHTS HOLDER FOR SOME SWIM EVENT IN FLORIDA AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A STATION UP AND RUNNING TO SHOW IT ON.

YOU ARE THE ONE FRANK OLSEN WHO TELLS US A ADVERTISING PROGRAM IS TO BEGIN JUNE 21 AND HIRE A INDUSTRY EXPERT WHO HAS WORKED WITH ALL THE MAJOR ADVERTISING FIRMS AND TO DATE HAS NOT DONE SQUAT.

YOU ARE THE ONE FRANK OLSEN WHO TELLS US THAT JUNE 1, A 24-HOUR SIGNAL WILL BE UP AND RUNNING FOR ADVERTISERS AND CARRIAGE INSIDERS TO SEE WHEN THE FACT IS THE SIGNAL NEVER RAN FOR ANYONE TO SEE EXCEPT FOR A 5-HOUR 10AM-5PM MAY 15TH DATE. FURTHER, THIS TIME SLOT YOU PICKED IS OUTSIDE THE MAIN GAY VIEWING AUDIENCE SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED AND WORKING TRADITIONAL BUSINESS HOURS WHICH ARE 9AM-5PM.

YOUR THE ONE TELLING US YOU HAVE STUDIO SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY RENTED, CHANGE YOUR TUNE TO YOU BOUGHT A NEW BUILDING THEN BACK TO YOUR RENTING STUDIO SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AGAIN. FURTHER, YOUR FIRST PROGRAM WAS "I DO, WE DID" AND YOU HAVE NO OTHER PROGRAMMING BUT YOUR TELLING US YOU HAVE ALL THIS RENTED SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

YOU TELL US IN FEB THAT YOU HAVE 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME WARNER THEN RECENTLY YOU TELL A SHAREHOLDER THAT YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THAT DEAL NOW.

YOU FRANK OLSEN PUT UP A #800 HOTLINE NUMBER THAT TELLS US WHAT'S COMING TO ONLY SEE THAT IT NEVER COMES TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US ABOUT Q-MOBILES.

YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US YOU HAVE 5-YEAR GUARANTEED FINANCING. THEN YOU FOLLOW SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND TELL US YOU GOT A $2-MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO SECURE 1ST YEAR BROADCAST. THEN YOU ISSUE 6 BILLION ON TOP OF 50-BILLION MORE SHARES TO TOTAL 71-BILLION SHARES.

YEA FRANK, THIS IS NO ECONOMIC OR BUSINESS REASON FOR THE SHARE DECLINE. THIS IS THE ONE THING YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY POSTIVELY 100%.

THE REASON IS FRANK OLSEN. <BURP>

posted October 08, 2004 15:26            

Off topic but an unoffical Public Service Announcement:

I called my doctor about getting my flu shot--not available this year--have to be high risk--even though I attend to eldery relatives!

If I do get the flu or a cold, I will enroll in GMED's trial programs. Their protocol works on viruses--sounds unbelieveable, but this even worked on the West Nile Virus.

They can be found on their website.

Hopefully, we will all be healthy and will not need their services, but should you need them--act fast. The sooner you start, the quicker you recover.

Be back in a few hours.

posted October 08, 2004 15:48            

THE FARTHER AWAY YOU STAY FROM DOCTORS THE LONGER YOU WILL LIVE, THAT IS A FACT!

Why is the average life span of a doctor 58? But a typical american 76.

posted October 08, 2004 16:03            

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Oh Dear Lord, don't get me started on that subject! FLU SHOTS AND MEDS ARE A WASTE!

THE FARTHER AWAY YOU STAY FROM DOCTORS THE LONGER YOU WILL LIVE, THAT IS A FACT!

Why is the average life span of a doctor 58? But a typical american 76.

Email me if you want to discuss. Our bodies heal naturally.

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What do you do for pain killers?

posted October 08, 2004 16:07            

That's like holding your hand on a burning stove and giving yourself local anastesia to cover the pain. Sure it feels better, but the problem is still there.

Ok, Now we've gone to off topic. Email me to discuss, no more responses.

quote:

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What do you do for pain killers?

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posted October 08, 2004 17:00            

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
[B]Q gets into a little bit of drama:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/08/BAG4M9613V1.DTL

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WOW! Scary. Good for Q. I think this is huge news. Perhaps Bigger places should here about this. I'm e-mailing this to Every news network out there and see what happens.
Perhaps nothin' but, it can't hurt.

Lil

posted October 08, 2004 17:01            

Here's a bullet list of most of marco's statements, just so they're easier to keep track of.

• QBID will be off the pinks really soon

• announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month

• (check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week

• major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday

• shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term

• frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times

• emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters

• QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock

• there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex

• if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move

• i have palced all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals

• they are live in other cities but the hurricane has taken out the southwest transponder. they will have it back up in texas on friday thanks to Leonard firestone

• own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now

• in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")

• QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance

• its going to be an overview of the company that is faxed and emailed, i have copy do you want to see it. give me your emai

• right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch

• qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week

• I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon

• QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or firday.

• i talked to frank olsen for 25 minutes today they were on the air for 3 days, ignore these losers. here is another prediction network will be full airing by Friday or latest over the weekend. if you doubt me call Frank olsen yourself
760-323-4455. Thats his direct phone number

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posted October 08, 2004 17:16            

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
BIG T,

UF DID NOT JUMP ON BOARD UNTIL LATE. .003'S. HE DID NOT GET IN AT .0001'S OR EVEN CLOSE.

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posted October 08, 2004 17:18            

Scary thing is BIG T is usually right!

posted October 08, 2004 17:24            

i thought he was smarter then that.
lol

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
If he was pumping at .0007 then for sure he owned it. Trust me.

[b]U4TSAF2
Member posted February 08, 2004 00:36

QBID ABOUT TO LAUNCH.
CURRENT STOCK PRICE AS OF FRIDAY IS .0014. 100% UP FROM .0007 WITH READY FOR THIS:

ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

$1,000 AT .0014 IS 714,285 SHARES.

714,285 SHARES AT .01 IS $71,428.00.

I BELIEVE IT PREVIOUSLY HIT .03 AND NOT .30.

BUY YOUR $1,000 WORTH AND PUT YOUR LIMIT ORDER IN TO SELL AT THE SAME TIME FOR .01 THEN FORGET ABOUT IT AND ONE DAY WONDER WHERE THAT EXTRA 70 GRAND CAME FROM!
[/B]

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posted October 08, 2004 17:39            

input anyone?

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Originally posted by Ric:
I refuse to use his name anymore but can commit on things said. Good point though. Could it be Logo or HereTV? I don't know how they are paid, so if it is a paid bash we need to at least leave the user name out even if we do respond. I think everyone will know who we are talking about.

[This message has been edited by Ric (edited October 08, 2004).]

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posted October 08, 2004 17:52            

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Originally posted by Ric:
Well I just did a search with key word paid bashing stock and I got so many hits it was silly. How can you say you did a search and found nothing.

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Yes it says there are people who bash stocks so they can drive the price down and buy up more. Nothing shocking about that. What I'm talking about is the morons on here who actually believe that there are companies that have employees sitting around bashing stocks all day and getting paid per reply or whatever. If you skim around the board, you'll find that just about every thread has someone making comments about this. One post in particular that I read last week in another thread had some people speculating on how much the basher gets paid per post. And no I don't think they're all being sarcastic about it.

Regardless, the issue is that people actually attribute the sinking pps to a handful of idiots like U4. It's never the company's fault...

posted October 08, 2004 18:01            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
How could I possibly sabotage this company? If a company tanks because one person asks questions about it, what good is the company to begin with? The success of this company depends entirely on how QTN proceeds. If you think you or I have any effect on the future of a television station by talking between 20-30 people on an online forum, you're nuts.
Other Robin: If you think I should just shut up and leave because I've said what I had to say, doesn't that mean you should as well? After all, you've said what your hopes and dreams are, so why not go away and let things happen as they will? Why should this rule only apply to me? And no, I'm not Purl Gurl, although I wish there were more people like her still around. It's good to talk with people who actually use logic and reason every now and then...

-R

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RobinO - I wouldn't say that anyone wants you to leave. I have never thought of you as a basher but, by the overall tone of your posts I feel you want the stock to fail.

posted October 08, 2004 18:02            

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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Hi, RobinO! You will obviously benefit greatly from the above article. LOL

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Yes, fantastic. What it basically says is don't listen to anyone but the cheerleaders. Keep up the good work tiger.

posted October 08, 2004 18:16            

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Originally posted by kencoda:
I believe someone requested this a few pages back. Would be helpful if someone could "check mark" which items Marco has been correct on:

Here's a bullet list of most of marco's statements, just so they're easier to keep track of.

• QBID will be off the pinks really soon not yet (not yet)

• announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month (wrong)

• (check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week ( ? )

• major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday ( started looking good but failed after 5 i believe )

• shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term ( cant confirm or deny this claim)

• frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times ( I have not seen these interviews )
• emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters ( cant confirm )

• QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock ( ? )

• there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex ( STILL TO BE SEEN )

• if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move

• i have palced all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals ( ? )

• they are live in other cities but the hurricane has taken out the southwest transponder. they will have it back up in texas on friday thanks to Leonard firestone ( San Fran area. Firestone is confirmed )

• own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now( ? )

• in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months") ( ? )

• QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance ( ? cant confirm them being on the air before move)

• its going to be an overview of the company that is faxed and emailed, i have copy do you want to see it. give me your emai ( ? )

• right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch ( 5 is all we seen )

• qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. ( not yet ) 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week ( ? )

• I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon ( ? )

• QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or firday. ( nope only San Fran )

• i talked to frank olsen for 25 minutes today they were on the air for 3 days, ignore these losers. here is another prediction network will be full airing by Friday or latest over the weekend. if you doubt me call Frank olsen yourself
760-323-4455. Thats his direct phone number

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posted October 08, 2004 18:28            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Yes it says there are people who bash stocks so they can drive the price down and buy up more. Nothing shocking about that. What I'm talking about is the morons on here who actually believe that there are companies that have employees sitting around bashing stocks all day and getting paid per reply or whatever. If you skim around the board, you'll find that just about every thread has someone making comments about this. One post in particular that I read last week in another thread had some people speculating on how much the basher gets paid per post. And no I don't think they're all being sarcastic about it.

Regardless, the issue is that people actually attribute the sinking pps to a handful of idiots like U4. It's never the company's fault...

-R

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read this -

How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock (or even competition reason).

RO, you dont go out much, do you! people just about do anything to earn a few bucks.

posted October 08, 2004 18:37            

I don't think its "paid bashing" people here need to worry about..its "paid pumping" which for sure goes on with BB and pink stocks..

Brandon

posted October 08, 2004 18:41            

As I pointed out in messages before, I am a share holder, but do not trust QBID's PR's.

posted October 08, 2004 18:42            

Brandon you biatch how are ya lol

Rod

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Originally posted by brandwilliams:
These articles say short sellers can profit from the bashing of a stock. Well anyone here ever shorted a BB stock? Cause I sure can't. And I don't believe for a second that ppl are being paid to bash a stock to drive the price down so they can buy in at a cheap price. Thats just not true. I believe paid bashing goes on but deals with Nasdaq and NYSE stocks, since they can be shorted. Notice the articles posted here don't say BB stocks do they... ????

I don't think its "paid bashing" people here need to worry about..its "paid pumping" which for sure goes on with BB and pink stocks..

Brandon

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posted October 08, 2004 18:48            

I am not bashing this stock or Frank I am telling the truth. I still like the chances in the future but only if We get everything that we need to be a successful NEWTWORK. Like I said I must bow-out for now. But I will be back after I can recooperate some of my LOSSES.

With my LUCK this QBID will probably skyocket in price NOW. THAT I AM OUT.

Good Luck everyone.

Just for curiousity sake I AM Going to recoop my money in:

ARES and ENUI. DarDaDog is in ENUI too. He is a very talented Stock Picker.