posted September 14, 2004 20:27            

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So...what you're telling me is:
That even in the face of a proven fact, ironclad logic, indisputable evidence, readily apparent proof, there will be people who refuse to admit that the squeeze of the centruy will not happen.

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Yes

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Then I have to ask you this:

What will it take for those who believe the squeeze of the century is still alive to admit it is over? Will it take all the claims being sweetherted away, and a PR apologizing to shareholders that UC did all he could, but has to padlock the door and move on, because it just didn't work? Will it take the demise of CMKX to convince those that unreasonably hold to these beliefs?
I want the squeeze, I want the PPS to go soaring. If this is checkmate, which it seems to be, the day of rekoning,(9/24), I can want all I want and have nothing. Then I imagine it will be, "we don't know what's in those samples". It could be months and months before the results are announced, but then it will be, "well, it's part of the plan, they don't want DeBeers to know what they have".
Your right it will be bunk, but it will go on until the padlock is on the door.

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Right

posted September 14, 2004 20:42            

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Originally posted by will:
Got ya! I'm getting old and thick, my friend. This "saga" is aging me.

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posted September 14, 2004 20:44            

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So your not saying who?

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Who what?

posted September 14, 2004 20:50            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Hey Will, you wanna field this one?

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posted September 14, 2004 21:11            

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Originally posted by glassman:

I am still trying to find a stock worthy of all this energy....
when I do I will alert you...

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Good luck,I don't think you'll find one.

P.S.I had a little luck with one of your picks.BIMR.Didn't want to tell ya,but thanks.

posted September 14, 2004 21:13            

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It just maybe too offensive to discuss openly here. I'm afraid it will have to remain between Upman and I.
I guess you're thinking this makes us even, Upman. You put me on the spot. You are the perpertator on this one, and I get caught holding the stink bag. LOL
Well, we AIN'T even, I owe you 5. LOL

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posted September 14, 2004 21:19            

AHAHAHHAH LOL HEHHHEHEHEHEHEEH

posted September 14, 2004 21:28            

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Originally posted by secman:
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AHAHAHHAH LOL HEHHHEHEHEHEHEEH

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CMKX has/will paid dividends.

posted September 14, 2004 22:01            

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
Wimp.

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posted September 14, 2004 22:17            

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Originally posted by Upside:
I don't know about that. I'll bet he would.

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posted September 14, 2004 22:18            

None of those dates will do anything for shareholders of CMKX. Look at where it is heading right now! Already, holders have been told to hold on, big things will happen...and that's just within the past two days.

There is nothing to explain the insistence that CMKX has any value whatsoever.

The market price? No! That's just hype, dreams, greed, pump and hope.

Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn.

Earnings? Never have been any positive earnings whatsoever. Maybe they've made a couple of dollars on CMKX funny car "T" shirts, but nothing else. Selling claims as previously stated is nothing more than feeding from one hand to the other and back again.

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.

Financial reporting? Non-existent. In fact, just the opposite by refusing to file with the SEC.

Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?

Issued and Outstanding Shares? Think about it! If they were able to increase the authorized shares by 300 billion, that means that there had to be someone individually or as a combined group controlling the outstanding shares at the time it was passed.
That probably means UC and or the family combined. Ten to one the present issued and outstanding is more that the 480-483 billion shares talked about...probably well over 500 billion right now.

This stock is unlikely to go anywhere at all except into the dumper. I suggested you sell many times before and the latest was at
.0004. Now it is flirting with .0002 and the next step is .0001. Then what will you do? Continue to hold and say, "Well, it can't go down any more!" Problem with that is there is one more step and that is BK and not any trading at all.

What a pity so many have been sucked into this stock! What a pity more will buy because someone is telling them it is a great stock, that it has potential, to wait until ???? (doomsday, I guess), that wealth is right around the corner, that they are confident, that they trust UC, Glenn and others involved, that UC and Glenn have a plan. Sure, and you lose!

posted September 14, 2004 22:52            

Good night.

posted September 14, 2004 23:00            

Where are the "noble" ones here?

You know, we don't even have to go there.

Someone please pull this apart and show everyone where it is lacking or wrong.

"Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn."

posted September 14, 2004 23:23            

Try this guys:
PROVE that CMKM has no claim assets!
PROVE that any claims they have are worthless!
PROVE that RG is just there to help UC "get away" with screwing the shareholders!
PROVE that every other company involved with CMKM is also out to scam us!
Please, PROVE ANYTHING that you guys continually spew forth. Don't back that weak stuff up by saying "betcha can't disprove it". That's why this is called SPECULATION! I don't need a damn guarantee to put money on a stock trading at this level.

I'll let "Little Willie" and "Dead Man Walking" get back to work. They're going to have to be pretty busy if they want to shake loose many more shares.

Well, night y'all. I'll check back in a few days......

posted September 14, 2004 23:37            

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

posted September 14, 2004 23:38            

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Originally posted by Grasshopper:
Man, I feel like I'm reading a spin-off of "Dumb & Dumber". Sorry, but even Carrey and Daniels were more clever than the two of you!

Try this guys:
PROVE that CMKM has no claim assets!
PROVE that any claims they have are worthless!
PROVE that RG is just there to help UC "get away" with screwing the shareholders!
PROVE that every other company involved with CMKM is also out to scam us!
Please, PROVE ANYTHING that you guys continually spew forth. Don't back that weak stuff up by saying "betcha can't disprove it". That's why this is called SPECULATION! I don't need a damn guarantee to put money on a stock trading at this level.

I'll let "Little Willie" and "Dead Man Walking" get back to work. They're going to have to be pretty busy if they want to shake loose many more shares.

Well, night y'all. I'll check back in a few days......

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posted September 14, 2004 23:52            

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Still speculating, guys?

A: Yes that't the nature of pinks.

None of those dates will do anything for shareholders of CMKX. Look at where it is heading right now! Already, holders have been told to hold on, big things will happen...and that's just within the past two days.

A: We dont't know if those dates will do anything or not until they arrive, and neither do you. Holding on is absolutely the right thing to do. That's my opinion and it's based on more fact than you have ever delivered here.

There is nothing to explain the insistence that CMKX has any value whatsoever.

A: 1.9 million acres of claims in what has been billed as the largest diamond mining find in the world.

The market price? No! That's just hype, dreams, greed, pump and hope.

A: Once again, only time will tell.

Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn.

A: The proof of the claims, worth, funds moving to shell corp's. All can be answered with D Roger Glemm. He wouldn't be with us without value. Or without a plan to take us private and deal with NSS.

Earnings? Never have been any positive earnings whatsoever. Maybe they've made a couple of dollars on CMKX funny car "T" shirts, but nothing else. Selling claims as previously stated is nothing more than feeding from one hand to the other and back again.

A: The fact they haven't told you the earnings doesn't mean there haven't been any. Do you understand the nature of "exploration"? There aren't any diamond earnings until diamonds are mined. That doesn't mean we haven't had earnings. Have you noticed the millions of dollars coming in from JV's and institutional investors?
Do you know if we have sold off mineral rights to other minerals besides diamonds. This area is rich in plutonium, gold and other precious minerals. Plutonium is too difficult to handle for most mining operations. And we are looking for diamonds.

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.

A: You cite CMKX for illegal operations? Do you have proof to back that up?

Financial reporting? Non-existent. In fact, just the opposite by refusing to file with the SEC.

A: Pinks don't have to file. This stock has been a pink as long as most investors can remember. Yet we bought it. Can any stockholder complain about a pink not reporting. If reporting, would we be tipping off the competition to what we had? You can't apply 'big board' rules to pinks.

Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?

A: How can you guarantee how long it would take an attorney to bring this company into compliance? You don't know his strategy or the obstacles he has to face before completion. And once again you are accusing Urban of doing things that would result in criminal prosecution? Do you have proof or just engaging in some more criminal libel?

Issued and Outstanding Shares? Think about it! If they were able to increase the authorized shares by 300 billion, that means that there had to be someone individually or as a combined group controlling the outstanding shares at the time it was passed.
That probably means UC and or the family combined. Ten to one the present issued and outstanding is more that the 480-483 billion shares talked about...probably well over 500 billion right now.

A: You refute yourself here. The AS was 500 billion on August 18, when it was increased. That means UC and family / insiders had to control 251 billion or so. Leaving a real OS of 249 billion, if all he had was 51%. There is no evidence that any of that 300 billion has been issued. It was probably done to complete a deal made in the Sask meeting the weekend before.

This stock is unlikely to go anywhere at all except into the dumper. I suggested you sell many times before and the latest was at
.0004. Now it is flirting with .0002 and the next step is .0001. Then what will you do? Continue to hold and say, "Well, it can't go down any more!" Problem with that is there is one more step and that is BK and not any trading at all.

A: It has flirted with everything between .0001 and .0011 in last few months. If it goes to .0001 then those of us who believe in this stock will load up with more.

What a pity so many have been sucked into this stock! What a pity more will buy because someone is telling them it is a great stock, that it has potential, to wait until ???? (doomsday, I guess), that wealth is right around the corner, that they are confident, that they trust UC, Glenn and others involved, that UC and Glenn have a plan. Sure, and you lose!

A: Well it can never be said that Wallace wasn't a sympathetic humanitarian at heart.
Trying to save the world and no one listens.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 14, 2004).]

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Is it just my imagination or do all of the bashers always show up all at once. Do you guys PM each other and say "O.K. pps is down, or bad news, let's all get over to Allstocks and see if we can scare a few more weak hands into selling."?

posted September 14, 2004 23:59            

"If the NSS squeeze of the century doesn't ocurr 9/24/04, will you be the first to explain it to me why it didn't. If it happens I will apologize to every believer here, and say I was wrong. Now keep in mind it has to ocurr 9/24, the UCAD didvidend is restricted, and all shares have to be accounted for, so it is checkmate. Let's see what you have to say in 10 days."

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Will, come on, do we look that easy? The Sept 24 date was never PR'd, it's only customary for a dividend to be issued 30 days after the x-date. It is only speculative. We don't have a pay date for any but GEMM. So don't try to trap us into a hard date that you can say: "See, I told ya so."

posted September 15, 2004 00:17            

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Originally posted by noahltl:
Will said:

"If the NSS squeeze of the century doesn't ocurr 9/24/04, will you be the first to explain it to me why it didn't. If it happens I will apologize to every believer here, and say I was wrong. Now keep in mind it has to ocurr 9/24, the UCAD didvidend is restricted, and all shares have to be accounted for, so it is checkmate. Let's see what you have to say in 10 days."

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Will, come on, do we look that easy? The Sept 24 date was never PR'd, it's only customary for a dividend to be issued 30 days after the x-date. It is only speculative. We don't have a pay date for any but GEMM. So don't try to trap us into a hard date that you can say: "See, I told ya so."

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posted September 15, 2004 00:21            

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Originally posted by dwman:
JIM DUNN INKS ROCK-SOLID MARKETING PARTNER BEGINNING IN 2005
(7-14-2004) - Jim Dunn Racing has signed CMKM Diamonds, Inc., as its primary marketing partner beginning in 2005. The multi-year agreement serves notice to the competition that the new CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car will race to win during the entire NHRA POWERade series.

To demonstrate the strength of this new partnership, CMKM has obtained a prominent Associate-level spot on the K&N Filters / Lucas Oil Funny Car for the remainder of the 2004 season. In doing so, CMKM is proud to be associated with some of the most respected names in the automotive aftermarket industry.

Team Owner Jim Dunn stated, "We couldn't be more pleased to be making this announcement at the half-way point of the season. With CMKM coming aboard early, it allows us to build our relationship and develop a high-impact campaign for the coming year. Starting in 2005, we'll be known as the CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car."

CMKM founder and Chairman of the Board, Urban Casavant, is a veteran in the precious metals industry, having almost 20 years of experience. He commented, "I'm excited to be associated with Jim Dunn Racing. This is a first-class operation, and with 'Big Jim's' know-how, our team will be in the winner's circle soon. In my opinion, our first big win will equal the excitement of discovering a new minerals claim."

CMKM Diamonds, Inc., is a mining and exploration company with abundant mineral claims in central Canada. The company has over one-million acres claimed in the Saskatchewan Province of Canada. A great new alliance has been formed and all parties are ready for action! http://www.competitionplus.com/06_17_2004/newsdirt.html

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posted September 15, 2004 00:22            

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Originally posted by will:
Well, noah, you furnished answers, thanks. Many of them do include faith in the management, and a "plan", and time will tell, but at least you took three swings at it.
..and please, not everyone who sees things differently than you is a basher. I choose to be cautious, and not have faith in the management. From the beginning I found the idea of a "master plan" just too easy to hide behind. I would really prefer forthright, honest, complete, information as opposed to a test of faith.
Believe it or not, I am on the same side you are. I want my little investment of $300 to grow astronomically, just that
I have to be honest with myself, and I'm sure you feel you are being honest with yourself too.

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Will, you have undoubtedly done your DD, so I won't belabor that on this thread. But knowing the history of this company, the naked shorting of the past, if you don't believe in it currently going on. The possibility that powerful competitors would try to wrest control from him. The complexitites of putting together exploration, drilling and mining operations of this scale. Would these not require a "master plan" to bring it all together?

Woould such a plan not require an attorney of the caliber of RG?

And to paraphrase Forrest Gump: "Bashing is as bashing does."

posted September 15, 2004 00:44            

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Originally posted by noahltl:
Will, you have undoubtedly done your DD, so I won't belabor that on this thread. But knowing the history of this company, the naked shorting of the past, if you don't believe in it currently going on. The possibility that powerful competitors would try to wrest control from him. The complexitites of putting together exploration, drilling and mining operations of this scale. Would these not require a "master plan" to bring it all together?

Woould such a plan not require an attorney of the caliber of RG?

And to paraphrase Forrest Gump: "Bashing is as bashing does."

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posted September 15, 2004 00:49            

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Originally posted by bill1352:
ucad shares will not be delivered to brokers till the pay date of the 24th. looking for them in our accounts before that date is useless as our brokers dont have them to put in our accounts. the 24th is the first date they may show up and even that is still in question as the company has not yet set a firm date. a firm date should come in the form of a pr. even the split is still a question. if you read the original pr it states further details of this dividend will be announced.looking for ucad shares in our accounts before the pay date is like looking for your pay check on monday and pay day is friday

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posted September 15, 2004 01:02            

Fact: On October 3, 2003 shareholders of record received a dividend of CMI stock which was untradeable. On December 8, 2003 they said CMI would be a publicly traded company within two weeks. It never happened. On December 19, 2003 they said the CMI shares would be exchanged on January 15, 2004, 1 for 1 with Mirador Corp., symbol MRDR. That never happened. On June 13, 2004, they abandoned the MRDR exchange and it has not been addressed since.

Fact: We know of three dividends currently being paid out, UCAD, CIM, and GEMM. UCAD shares will be restricted for an unknown period of time, CIM is not tradeable, GEMM closed today at .038. If the o/s of CMKx is only 400 billion and GEMM is around the same price on the distribution date, for every million shares you hold, you will receive approx. 9 dollars worth of stock. Outside of GEMM, the other dividends are worthless as of right now.

Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.

Fact: The company released a p/r on June 10th 2004 stating the Carolyn pipe was found to be diamondiferous. This was at minimum a misleading p/r designed to cause hype. To date they have not released the results from the other half of the core samples.

Fact: the outstanding share count of this company is a minimum of 400 billion, a number which their spokesperson Melvin flatly denied in June of this year.

posted September 15, 2004 01:08            

"I know alot of folks hang their hat on R.G., could it not be possible he is there to keep CMKX between the white lines while they sell off claims and leave a worthless shell? Is that not a possibility?"

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Not just a possibility, I think that you have come incredibly close to the truth with that statement. I believe that eventually we will all be backed into CIM, SGGM or one of the "shells" and after we have all been moved, with our new shares, and along with the "assets", CMKX would be left as a shell. That would definitely take someone with RG's expertise to keep the company "between the white lines".

posted September 15, 2004 01:14            

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When will Microsoft announce to their shareholders what their researchers are creating in the labs?

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posted September 15, 2004 01:18            

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When will Disney announce their next acquisition to shareholders?

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posted September 15, 2004 01:20            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Everyones screaming for facts about this company, I've got a few.

{Lanebro's chosen paragraph}:
Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.

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I have to laugh here; last weekend I saw what appearred to be UC, et al, owning most of the Sask area land claims in Canada, on the reverse side of Jim Dunn's hero card! Seemingly covered same mass as US (at a glance) LOL.
Sorry, I tossed it into the trash, like most NHRA fans did. I'll keep the next one I take, in Reading, PA....

posted September 15, 2004 01:24            

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by noahltl:
Well, with the X-Box it was about a year before it came out, the demo of their directx drivers were being shown at shows well in advance of implementation, Windows 95 had a coming out party planned a year in advance, Windows XP was being talked about in the late 90's, need more?

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I'm betting they didn't release it until the copyright / patents were filed. That's what RG is doing now, getting all the paperwork in order before any annoucnements are made.

posted September 15, 2004 01:27            

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I'm betting they didn't release it until the copyright / patents were filed. That's what RG is doing now, getting all the paperwork in order before any annoucnements are made.

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posted September 15, 2004 09:53            

Excuse me SECMAN, but it appears us HICKS have already figured out what most can't accept. Remember the trash can at Indy? There won't be any legit drag racers nor fans at the party in Vegas- we have better things to do that weekend, like RACING.
Oh, I did see some of those free CMK t-shirts being worn at INDY- on the guys that pumped out the waste tanks on my coach!

posted September 15, 2004 09:59            

"Today's interview will be with the "Green Baron" regarding CMKX and UCAD - Canadian Minerals Inc. A webcast with UCAD's CEO - Rendal Williams will be available Wednesday morning at http://thegreenbaron.com .

The Green Baron has also graciously accepted an invitation to do a POINT/COUNTERPOINT style interview next Tuesday with the founder of StockPatrol.com, Hartley Bernstein. At the time of this release, we are awaiting a response from Mr. Bernstein. It is one of CT's greatest desires that investors be fully informed before making any investment decision.

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Originally posted by will:

I know alot of folks hang their hat on R.G., could it not be possible he is there to keep CMKX between the white lines while they sell off claims and leave a worthless shell? Is that not a possibility?]

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Just as long as they keep hooking us up with pieces of the other companies as a going away present, I'm OK with that.

posted September 15, 2004 10:10            

Good morning

My name is xxxxx. I am a loyal shareholder of CMKM Diamond Inc. I am a regular poster on the Allstocks.com message board.

As you can imagine, your man, D. Roger Glenn's name comes up frequently on the board. Now, some see CMKX as the "stock play of a lifetime," while others see it as the "scam of a lifetime." Either way, the reputation of Mr. Glenn and your company is now inextricably linked.

Please be aware that a poster on Allstocks.com, with the user name, Wallace#1, in a post dated September 14, 2004 22:18, brought the following accusation to the board:

"Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders? "
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/008861-21.html

How do you respond?

Thank you.