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JEAL
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posted September 30, 2004 13:29     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry - Now up 30.26% and the volume is huge

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Shore Gold Inc. - Star Diamond Project: 1,590 carats to date
Thursday September 30, 1:22 pm ET


12.8, 8.3 and 4.5 carat diamonds in 196 carat parcel
Stock Symbol: SGF: TSX-VEN
SASKATOON, SK, Sept. 30 /CNW/ - George H. Read, P. Geo., Senior Vice President Exploration, is pleased to announce the seventh set of diamond recoveries from the Star Kimberlite. The diamond recoveries to date total 1,589.7 carats from 13,129 dry tonnes processed. These results are for four kimberlite batches of a total of some 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star Diamond Project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of some 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 1,297 commercial sized diamonds (greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 194.65 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 1005.56 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Thirty-three diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the four largest stones are: 12.84, 8.33, 4.05 and 2.91 carats, respectively. In addition, 152 diamonds (1.82 carats) were recovered down to 0.85 millimetre square mesh. The colour of 73 percent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 15 percent classified as off-white.
These four kimberlite batches (of a total of 37 processed) have been mined from the Southeast drive (Batches 26, 27 and 28) and the North drive (Batch 29) developed from the 235 metre shaft station. All of these kimberlite batches have been recovered from within the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date have shown that higher diamond grades are associated with the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite than with the Late Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. The relationships between these two kimberlite types are illustrated in cross sections available on the Shore Gold website: www.shoregold.com.

Batches 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35A, 35B, 36 and 12A (all from 235 metre level) have been processed on-site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. Results from these batches are pending. A total of 14,974 dry tonnes has been processed through the on-site DMS plant. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites.

Kimberlite processed and diamond results for four sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).


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Diamonds Largest
Batch Location Dry Number of Total Grade Stone
No. (metres below surface) Tonnes Stones (carats) (cpht) (carats)
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26 235 m Level: SE drive 184.04 319 60.82 33.05 12.84
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27 235 m Level: SE drive 292.38 330 41.52 14.20 2.86
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28 235 m Level: SE drive 297.51 493 60.21 20.24 2.91
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29 235 m Level: N drive 231.63 307 34.31 14.81 2.63
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Total 1,005.56 1,449 196.86 19.58
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The four largest stones are: 12.84 (Batch 26, Off White), 8.33 (Batch 26,
Grey), 4.05 (Batch 26, White) and 2.91 (Batch 28, Off White) carats,
respectively. Ten diamonds exceed two carats and 33 diamonds exceed one carat,
of which 17 are white, 9 are off-white, 6 are grey and 1 is yellow. A total of
66 diamonds exceed 0.5 carat. Seventy-three percent of the total diamond
parcel is classified white in colour, with a further 15 percent classified as
off-white. The diamond parcel includes 3 pink, 6 yellow and 4 amber stones.
Kimberlite Batch No. 28 has produced the largest pink diamond recovered to
date (0.72 carats). Ninety-nine percent of the carat weight of this parcel
occurs in diamonds greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, states: "We have now
explored the 235 metre level with over 800 metres of underground lateral
development and we are rapidly approaching our bulk sample target of 25,000
tonnes of kimberlite. The results of this news release continue to show that
large diamonds are found throughout the underground development, particularly
in the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date show that the
overall average grade for the Early Joli Fou kimberlite has increased to
16.27 cpht (1,395 carats recovered from 8,576 tonnes)".
The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds, the Flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease
table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure
carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS
Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation,
manual sorting and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is
accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as
a testing laboratory for specific tests.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, Professional Geoscientist
in the Provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the Qualified Person
responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results.
The Star Diamond Project is designed to recover a parcel of at least
3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to
25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and
processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. Shore is a Canadian based
corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral
properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the
trading symbol "SGF".

"The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release"

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JEAL
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posted September 30, 2004 13:42     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Points to note in PR from SGF

1. 12+ carat diamond ( the wife woudl like that one I am sure )
2. Notice towards the bottom, they speak of the process for the sampling of kimberlite using, "The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds......"

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tic_toc
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UCA
http://tinyurl.com/6waqz

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JEAL
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tic_toc

I only have Yahoo open at work.
Thanks for the insight.

JEAL


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quote:
Notice towards the bottom, they speak of the process for the sampling of kimberlite using, "The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds......"

Well, that's one sampling method. I prefer CMKX's method of pulling up a bunch of slag with a fifty year old busted down drill that's held together with duct tape, then watch for the geologists eyes to "light up like a Christmas tree" as Melvin so aptly put it.

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Nothing personal glassman but I owm cmkx and want them to post. What I dont like most is Wallace's bashing of folks not just cmkx.

What I dont get is your attitde towards this stock. Why this one? Most folks pump the stocks they own. Nature of the game. I will agree ...if this is a scam then we should save the newbies. But as allstocks says 90% are probably scams in pennyland. I learned the hard way. When you make money, get out...

Why didnt you get on the reality and others with all the pumping on qbid?


the QBID thing worked because they (QBID) weren't (IMO) dumping shares into the market.....i could be wrong, but interest just died off---if interest picks up again on QBID the PPS will go back up....

you guys know i'm not a basher. i just offered my opinionsabout what is going on here.....
the float here has been increasing since the beginning of the year....steadily....
the charts say so....
why does everybody ignore them????
because somebody insisted that there was a huge Naked Short. so huge that the perps would go bankrupt ....

where is NS squeeze???
was this a controlled rumor or just misjudgement?? do you think this NSS issue was malicious or was it just bad judgement and rumors??????

Wallace should watch his blood pressure IMO....

ask MOO and HI-way...i told them long ago this was going on. the question now is what is being done with the money raised....
is it being used to increase share value or is being used to start the next pump-n-dump?

as far as "scam" goes, i never called this a scam.....they are drilling for diamonds...but.......

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What this whole back and forth on this thread is about,people trying to defend something that would scare a mother away from her own son.If you look at cmkx there is no way anyone would buy right now other than a lottery ticket and with the o/s it's now a scratcher worth alot less even if it hits.Not one company they sold a percentage to had any money for years.Look i hope you all get rich,just be realistic and think how crazy these planned theory's are.I have one myself mlon, i might be left holding the empty bag.When negative facts come out i accept them.some of the things people defend for cmkx is crazy.Look at it from the outside if you follow what they have done and were an outsider you would say it was a scam.And you all know it's a big possibility.Just don't bury your heads in the sand.So IMHO you have a lottery ticket which on the surface has been looking worse.Facts are facts,truths are truths ,theory's are theory's.This is just my theory on the fued on this board.The people that post against it is because some people want to defend something that on any other stock would be called crazy.I truly hope there are diamonds,and want you to make money.Good Luck

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I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?

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I am not saying it is a scam.What i am saying is if you look at from the outside it sure looks like it could be.And if i owned this stock i would admit that it looked like it.And when negative things happened i would'nt try to defend them with some magic theory.Of course iwould still say i thought they were going to find diamonds and would still be hopefull.Also to be fair behind the scenes nobody knows whats going on.Have'nt looked into that deal.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?


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Just aside to CMKX, the Mt. St. Helen is about to errupt: http://www.pnsn.org/NEWS/PRESS_RELEASES/MSH_09_2004.html

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Damn, that Melvin is a genius!

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to bad we didn't get shares of our canadian partners too but then we couldn't treade them any easier then CIM

well next week we are supposed to get UCAD. i think we need a bookie in here for odds on if its going to happen. wonder why GEMM was pushed back 1 1/2 months. green baron has a new posting about cmkx but it wasn't worth pasting in here.

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?


mutiple answer question...LOL

a) don't treat people with VALID points rudely....somebody told me i was dumb and wrong...guaranteed to get a war started.i enjoy debating, esp. when i'm correct.

b)pennies is a big poker game, don't deal from the bottom of the deck.

c)don't ABuse religion. i agree with Wallace on this one. it's wrong to take advantage of people's FAITH in money and politics..just my opinion.....

e)this has had the STRONG smell of $$pump on it.......there are pennies that are actually worth this strong of an effort that don't get the time of day....wonder why??????

the cyxg loan i have yet to DD. i'm not really interested in DD'ing this right now, there is much more intereting stuff going on....

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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Damn, that Melvin is a genius!

you said it, but I was thinking the same - what a coincidence!

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Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?

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posted September 30, 2004 19:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, why sell?

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Upside,
I never knew that you are long?
Ok then, would you atleast say 'something is fishy'?


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Nope, why sell?

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The only reason I'm long is because I have to be. I was originally in at .0002, then in a moment of weakness I doubled my position at .0005. My average is .0035 now, not in a bad spot but I'm not selling because I still believe that somehow, someway this thing will have another run someday. I'll hold until that happens or they go under. Something fishy? Ever smell a week old barrel of fish left out in the sun? Yeah, somethings fishy alright.

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TruthTeller:
I wouldn't sell!
I've played stocks that in no way no how seemed like a scam, and had them turn out to be scams. I have to admit I have doubts now and then, but Heck I even had doubts about Qbid and seen the people saying the same thing about Qbid as with CMKX and every day my faith builds that Qbid isn't going to be a scam. http://www.chicago2006.org/media/article.php?aid=42
(just wish I would of picked up more)
Plus I'd feel a little funny at the Party if
I didn't have some shares!!!


"What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?"

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I am not a long, but I will answer for most of them, probably. Seeing that there has to be an accounting for all O/S if/when this dividend is paid, (actually that should have been reconciled by 8/20/04), that should be avaiable also. Lastly regarding this divdend "they" were counting on it triggering the "squeeze of the cebtury".
Their answer is NO I WON'T SELL. They will tell you they didn't buy the stock for dividends or for the "squeeze of the century." They did however, bet their hat ass and gloves that it would happen. One of them would buy more, and announce they did when a dividend was declared, the reasoning was the "squeeze of the century." When this payment date was changed one said, "Roger springs the trap", and explained it with some type of premature UCAD payment in peopels account. It's on this thread, you can go read it, it's laughable.
Now if the dividend is not paid 10/06/04, and it postponed, guess what? The "squeeze of the century", will be delayed, yet again. By all logic and reasoning the "squeeze of the century", should have ocurred 8/20/04, and it never materialized. You see, I asked the same question of them back on 9/22/04, or so, and pretty much am paraphrazing their answers back then.
Now will I sell? NO! Do I have 50 million shares+, do I have $10,000, $20,000, $30,000+ tied up in this doubtful, dubious, slippery, lying, nonforthcoming, company. NO! Most of the diehard longs do. Will they admit an error in jusdgement? NO! They will read this, dismiss as bashing, call it laughable, tell me I find negatives where there aren't any, and finally I don't understand what is going on with this stock. Well I hope it takes a little double from the curretn PPS, and I won't have to understand anything. They on the other hand are jammed for big money.
This is cheap entertainment for me, and probably expensive stress for some of those heavy holding longs.

quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?


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Does anybody know how or if the 200,000,000 shares of sggm are going to be distributed?

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Here let me give you an example of denial. Look at this post. Tamie clearly left because of Melvin saying CMKX's offices were in Urban's home. She clearly says that in her own unedited text. Yet since seeing this, one long commented, "the proverbial straw", another ignored it, and said the reason Tamie left was Wallace's constant bashing.
There you go, even when faced with a simple fact, in black and white, text, typed from her own little fingers, they DENY it, and blame it on Wallace. I guess her comment makes Melvin a basher now.

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Originally posted by will:
Melvin in one of his paltalk visits said the only office he knew of was in Urban's home.
That's what did it for Tamie:

Tamie
Member posted September 01, 2004 10:12

"well I hate to say it but with all this uncertainty circling this stock I do not feel secure holding any stocks in it. I am going to sell what I am holding today. As a business owner there are things you do and dont do and to me a corporate headquarters being casavants home is a definite no no. IMO. Just seems to me that we are financing his extra curricular activity at this point. If things were to change and they were to become fully reporting it would be different. but at this point they have no one to answer to."


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the price tanked because;
there was no NSS
the AS was raised to 800 mmmmmbillion


not because anybody bashed it...LOL

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...and they will deny that too.
You could hold white hot coals to their eyes, and they will swear to you that the "squeeze of the century", will ocurr. That Urban owns all the O/S, everyone else is naked.
Shucks, they might even tell you that they're going to buy more at these sales prices.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

the price tanked because;
there was no NSS
the AS was raised to 800 mmmmmbillion


not because anybody bashed it...LOL


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There are so many dividends I can't keep track. Was there a dividend announced for SGGM? I don't recall a dividend, I know of three, UCAD, CIM, and GEMM.
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Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Does anybody know how or if the 200,000,000 shares of sggm are going to be distributed?

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Glass wrote:

a) don't treat people with VALID points rudely....somebody told me i was dumb and wrong...guaranteed to get a war started.i enjoy debating, esp. when i'm correct.

b)pennies is a big poker game, don't deal from the bottom of the deck.

c)don't ABuse religion. i agree with Wallace on this one. it's wrong to take advantage of people's FAITH in money and politics..just my opinion.....

e)this has had the STRONG smell of $$pump on it.......there are pennies that are actually worth this strong of an effort that don't get the time of day....wonder why??????
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My sentiments exactly!

By the way, my blood pressure is fine. Always has been.

I did review CYXG. There is nothing to recommend pouring $2 mil into it by CMKX if that is where the money came from. Just the opposite...put it into drilling and drilling equipment. Look at the 10QSB.

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quote:
Originally posted by will:
Here let me give you an example of denial. Look at this post. Tamie clearly left because of Melvin saying CMKX's offices were in Urban's home. She clearly says that in her own unedited text. Yet since seeing this, one long commented, "the proverbial straw", another ignored it, and said the reason Tamie left was Wallace's constant bashing.
There you go, even when faced with a simple fact, in black and white, text, typed from her own little fingers, they DENY it, and blame it on Wallace. I guess her comment makes Melvin a basher now.

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Will,

This is the post that you use to verify your reasons for not being long on CMKX? This is your quote to show us all how stupid we are? I, for one, don't know Tamie...never knew her...don't even know if she's for real. For that fact, you don't know if I'm for real. Kind of funny, huh? We all make these bold predictions of wealth and doom, yet nobody knows if we have the goods or not.

I'm not going to let pathetic DD like this determine my stand on a company. I'm not got to rely on pumping theories, either. I didn't buy into this stock because I thought it was naked shorted to death. I'll bet that 95% of the stockholders bought because there is a good chance that there are diamonds/minerals that will show some value.

The core sample results will dictate to me whether I hold or sell. I've quit reading this thread on a regular basis because there is very little discussion of diamonds.

DIAMONDS, that's the whole reason this may or may not be a good investment. Anything else discussed, short of share structure, is trivial. Whether you are in it for the long haul or to make a quick buck, it's the core sample results that will make or break this thing.

I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing.

Why would they want to announce that at this time?

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Look at the majority of my posts as far back as early June. You will see I have been saying this company is not forthcoming. When they do PR they are, unclear, incomplete, confusing, ambiguous. The only thing I have been asking are for the same things you sited:

O/S, share structure
Sample Reports
Progress of becoming a reporting company.

My couple of previous posts were answering a question if longs would sell if the dividend wasn't paid on 10/6, and to show even simple facts are denied by some. What little I have (1.5M), yes I will hold to make money on them. This company is terribly mismanaged. I never said you were stupid for holding, I just pointed out how easily some folks here deny facts, and replace them with hopes, dreams, and impossible theories. If you're stupid, I'm stupid, because I own this POS too.

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Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
Will,

This is the post that you use to verify your reasons for not being long on CMKX? This is your quote to show us all how stupid we are? I, for one, don't know Tamie...never knew her...don't even know if she's for real. For that fact, you don't know if I'm for real. Kind of funny, huh? We all make these bold predictions of wealth and doom, yet nobody knows if we have the goods or not.

I'm not going to let pathetic DD like this determine my stand on a company. I'm not got to rely on pumping theories, either. I didn't buy into this stock because I thought it was naked shorted to death. I'll bet that 95% of the stockholders bought because there is a good chance that there are diamonds/minerals that will show some value.

The core sample results will dictate to me whether I hold or sell. I've quit reading this thread on a regular basis because there is very little discussion of diamonds.

DIAMONDS, that's the whole reason this may or may not be a good investment. Anything else discussed, short of share structure, is trivial. Whether you are in it for the long haul or to make a quick buck, it's the core sample results that will make or break this thing.

I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing.

Why would they want to announce that at this time?


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Work wrote:
"I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing."

Nothing else to explain the silence?
How bout if they found nothing?
Would they be so ready to announce that fact, or be silent?

I hope they did find a sh|t load of diamonds. I hope they become reporting, but just how long does that process take?

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Will wrote:"Nothing else to explain the silence?
How bout if they found nothing?
Would they be so ready to announce that fact, or be silent?

I hope they did find a sh|t load of diamonds. I hope they become reporting, but just how long does that process take? "


Your point would carry weight if there was not a lot of activity and discoveries in the area. There are millions of dollars being invested in the immediate area and the results of sampling have been bordering on amazing. This area is not a long shot. Just the amount of anomolies discovered throught the aerial survey points to an almost certainty of mineable resources.

I'll admit that taking a shot in the dark or even on some decent geology is a long shot and very risky at best. However, in this area, it appears to be like shooting fish out of a barrel...(ok, maybe not that sure of a thing), but you get the idea.

IMO, we have a better chance of finding something valuable than not finding anything. However, only time will tell. If the core samples were bad, these guys could have dumped and run. That's not happening here.

They are digging in.

I don't think anyone can question that. Just because we don't have concrete answers doesn't mean the answers are not what we want. On the contrary, it appears the answers will be good news.

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Will,

I went back and checked the PRs on SGGM. There was no mention that those 200 billion shares would be distributed as a dividend.

However, I do seem to remember something to the effect that UC stated all shares of other companies acquired through deals would be distributed. Could be wrong though on this.

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Just another carrot, Wallace. Could come about, but there wasn't any SGGM dividend.
They're selling off claims, and replacing them with restricted dividends. Just how valuable are these dividends? How valuable will they be in a year? Did I read someone figured they're getting $9 dividend of GEMM for every million shares of CMKX? WOW! isn't that bonus. All these dividends are nothing more than a lollypop your not going to be able to lick for year, and by then they'll taste like sh|t.
Where is Roger Glenn's skill, abilty, experience, genius? I say three months having him aboard, and no evidence of progrees to become reporting, why not?

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

I went back and checked the PRs on SGGM. There was no mention that those 200 billion shares would be distributed as a dividend.

However, I do seem to remember something to the effect that UC stated all shares of other companies acquired through deals would be distributed. Could be wrong though on this.


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Will, I'm not going to touch any of those questions you asked!!! Please ask someone else, OK? LOL

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They can't be answered. None of the open issues, questions that matter can be answered by anyone but CMKX. They are not in the habit of disclosing or publishing anything that isn't incomplete or ambiguous. Those are questions that the believers need to ask themselves.

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originally posted by Will:
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Did I read someone figured they're getting $9 dividend of GEMM for every million shares of CMKX?

Yeah, that was me and that's based on CMKX only having 400 billion outstanding and a .035 price for GEMM which is at .031 today.

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That one isn't restricted, is it?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Will:
Yeah, that was me and that's based on CMKX only having 400 billion outstanding and a .035 price for GEMM which is at .031 today.

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posted September 30, 2004 23:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, You can trade it immediately.

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will
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Well, at least you don't have to wait a year to see what the other lollypops will taste like. The GEMMpop will let you know what you're in for.


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Nope, You can trade it immediately.

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Sure, if you don't mind winding up with next to nothing after commission. I'll sell mine, thanks for the 5 bucks Urban! You're a great guy!

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From the 'Lectric Law Library's stacks

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quality operating private companies for this process.

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money. The Spinoff saves you money. But, securities attorneys lose
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==========
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-----
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Since many are talking about leaving this thread I would like to say that I find the DD here informative and for the most part entertaining. I don't add much in the way of facts or banter but like to lurk. Thanks again.

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hey royals are you from KC?

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So not many longs answered the question. Thanks to those who answered.
My answer/strategy is pretty much same like Upside. I am holding my 8M because I think (hope??) it will have another run some day.

GLTA

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quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?


Didn't even see the question, but since you pointed it out...

I'd probably not sell. I don't have a lot of cash invested. My pps is about .00015, so if it tanks back to .0001 I'm out about a grand. Would I be concerned? Absolutely. I've been through something similar with GMDP.

What I think is going on with CMKX is management spending way too much time wheeling and dealing and way too little effort looking for diamonds. I think eventually CMKX will be reverse merged with some other company (which will turn out to be an effective reverse split) and the process will continue. The only thing is can some of us "little guys" manage to make some money on all this. Some will but most of us won't because we believe in "the dream" of getting fantastically rich on this and will get caught when the stock "resets".

Sorry to be a cynic. And I'm not bashing, just stating what I think is going on. For what it's worth I plan on holding for the dream (yeah, I'm probably being foolish on this). But just like the lottery, you know deep down your probably going to loose but you get a lot of pleasure know you at least have a chance to get filthy rich and it's fun to imagine the "what ifs".


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[edited to correct spelling mistakes]

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quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?


The UCAD divvy's: they don't mean a thing 'cause they ain't got that swing...like DIAMONDS!! SGGM, CIM, GEMM, AMFM, ACDC, LSMFT, NASA...just letters on a slow scrolling page. Since you asked I'll either sell or lose the whole lot when I find out there no DIAMONDS!! Absolutely NOTHING here to get worked up about. 4 MIL at '2 & '3, not much to lose, but a considerable gain if... The long shot has always been the sentimental favorite. Too many chefs watching this pot and they don't even have the main ingredient...DIAMONDS!!
Another problem on this thread: failure to communicate i.e. intellectual failures attempting to communicate. All up in the Kool Aid and don't even know the flavor. MPO

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STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.

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quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.

It's bs...don't believe it...just mm's trading shares between themselves...glta

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May be..
I have a buy order for 0002.. no fill

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 01, 2004).]

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1/2 billion shares dumped in 3 hrs.

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