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tradingpennys Member |
Funny you should mention having control of another company.... perfect senario. quote: IP: Logged |
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Justhis1ce Member |
Noahltl-----I think you are right on the money my old son. You're DD and your most impressive and informative posts have always been a pleasure to read since they have always been extremely informative. I admire your dogged sleuthing and deductions. Your detractors laugh and ridicule but cannot disprove or discedit any of your HO's which makes them, in my HO, utterly and completely FOS. Up, down or steady, your posts are straight up and a truly good read. Cheers mate. 4,000,000 long and strong IP: Logged |
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JOED5500 Member |
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 via CDS September 25, 2004 This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm
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will Member |
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 via CDS September 25, 2004 This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm]http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm
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Justhis1ce Member |
quote: Hello Will, I can't seem to find that info, can you tell exactly where to go on the site please? thanks, M IP: Logged |
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will Member |
Sorry, Justthis1nce, I can't get you a clean URL to the First Alert News, or the referenced URL. For some reason it's not letting me get to it. Was sent to me in an email from First Alert News, but isn't listed in First Alert News, under CMKX. Can't help ya, man. I have no idea what it means either. [This message has been edited by will (edited September 25, 2004).] [This message has been edited by will (edited September 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Justhis1ce Member |
quote: Appreciate your efforts Will, cheers. M IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
Noah my friend ![]() Dwman as well How are you boys doing? A lot of happenings in the past two weeks with our stock!! Did I mention I missed you guys! 3.8 Million STRONG! GO CMKX! -Byrd- IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
SEEN A LOT OF COMMENT ON THIS POST = = = = = = = = = = quote: = = = = = = = = = = What was said here in a round-A-bout way stem from a fact that everyone seems to have overlooked. Dividends are paid ONLY on O/S,this does not include retired,restricted(why would a company write a check to everyone in the world?;(This would be like the government collecting taxes and giving it to everyone who doesn't pay taxes! WHOOPS I guess they do that). IF there are naked shorts any difference in share value (to include dividends or difference in share price at sale) come from the MM. There goal is to make the difference a negative. The game being played here is to expose the opposition R.Glenn vs MM's MO VAN PS The report of people having received & sold UCAD dividend might be a planted rumor ? [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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highwaychild Member |
BYRD...is that really you...LOL Good to see ya back man. IP: Logged |
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will Member |
BYRD, I'm not even going to ask if you're going to behave this time around. I already know the answer. Good luck, see if you can last a week this time. IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
Highwaychild... Yes, it's me... lol... New and Improved, with better manners. It is good to 'see' you too IP: Logged |
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will Member |
OK is this: CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004 Meaning the .000009... div is paid 10/6 and the additional to bring it to .0000155 paid 10/18? Guessing at the 0's, but y'all get my meaning. IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
WILL Had some trouble following your question, but guess you think the math indicates higher shares of O/S This means that the company will need to explain the dilution. VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 25, 2004).] [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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will Member |
No, Van, I'm saying the .00009.. dividend will be paid 10/6, and the round up, or additional dividend will be paid 10/18. They adjusted the UCAD dividend, but the record date of that was 8/20. Maybe today's news has to do with the CIM dividend??? Most confusing crap these people put out. Maybe it will help if you explain what today's news means: CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004
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VNGNTN1 Member |
WILL Hate to be so simplistic, but I think it is a stall. Don't know why. There are lots of possibilities Pos/Neg. Plus the SEC rules change may complicate. VAN IP: Logged |
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will Member |
I don't even know what dividend it is referring to now. Says the one with the record date of 8/31, thought that was the CIM dividend. quote: IP: Logged |
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glassman Member |
nothing would please me more than to see the SEC rules work for a change... i know you guys don't like what i say here much, but i have seen plenty of transparent co's with excellent fundamentals get thrashed... short-selling is the EZst explanation, it may be wrong, but..... IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
Good afternoon, all. Tina, JBCak, noahltl, IP: Logged |
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HarryHar Member |
Can you guys explain to me why the title of the PR says paid via CDS? I'm not sure I understand that. Do you guys not believe it possible that the A/S was raised in order to sell shares back to MM's that were naked shorting so that those MM's could cover the nakeds, and then Urban uses the proceeds from selling the "cover" shares to buy back and retire shares to eventually bring the O/S back down? IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
Wally wrote: "Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?" ============================================= CMKX has me racing against the clock... I need more shares! Hmmmmm... I can sell a liver, I can get by on one (Homer Simpson)...lol... Anyone have any dividends magically show up in your accounts? I have Choicetrade and they haven't posted anything to my account as of today... I was just curious, thats all -John- IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
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JBCak47 Member |
AGAIN CMKX has REPEATEDLY said that shareholders and investors need to listen to OFFICIAL COMPANY Press Releases... Any OTHER information (that INCLUDES otcbb DOT COM YES DOT COM.... AGAIN DOT COM, COMMERCIAL SITE... Are they biased? Who reaps the profits of this website?...) is not official information and should not be listened to. Again I trust CMKX and will listen to ONLY THEM... Not OTCBB. com And what Noah is trying to say is that, in theory, since NO ONE EXCEPT CMKX Diamonds knows the true O/S count, it is possible for Roger Glenn to have backed financing to buyback a LARGE amount of the O/S... If there was a true NSS problem, buyback a large percentage of the shares would help to 'prove' Rogers case that infact a NSS problem is prevelant. What Noah is trying to say, I think anyways, is that no one knows how many shares, and I for one DO NOT BELEIVE IT TO BE 800 BILLION O/S , MAYBE A/S but that doesn't mean squat... The possibility of Noah being right is no more or LESS than Wallace being correct or wrong. Since we DO NOT KNOW THE SHARE COUNT, ANY ONE OF US CAN BE RIGHT, OR WE ALL CAN BE WRONG... Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be -John- IP: Logged |
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will Member |
"Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be" That begs the question: Why should it be that way? IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
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will Member |
So, it comes down to trust? Looks like your Northern Labs is a bit more stable, and better managed than CMKX. You may have reason to hang in there with them, but CMKX has shown that they haven't earned that type of blind faith. IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
TRUST CMKX, UC, Glenn, Melvin? First, ask yourself what have they done to earn your trust? There is no question that the list to the 2nd question is much, much longer by far than that of the first. Ask yourself simplier questions. What have they accomplished? Diamonds? Earnings? Informed Shareholders? SEC Filing? Objective Valuations of Claims? Issued/Outstanding? Full Disclosure? Non-Arm's Length Transactions? Shareholder Voting? Conflicts of Interest? Ambiguity? Lots more! How about Funny Car, Truck & Motorcycle, Visa Card, Past Track Records and Litigation?
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noahltl New Member |
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Wallace#1 Member |
noahltl wrote: They haven't earned mistrust either. -------------------------------------------- noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust... IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
noahltl wrote: Regardless of Wallace's rantings. -------------------------------- Got to go for now but will get back to you later about "rantings"...maybe even a few laughable quotes of yours. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
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highwaychild Member |
Well I trust CMKX is wanting to become a fully reporting Co again. And if that were to happen, probably about 14 of your 17 questions are soon answered... Wally wrote... Ask yourself simplier questions. What have they accomplished? Diamonds? Earnings? Informed Shareholders? SEC Filing? Objective Valuations of Claims? Issued/Outstanding? [This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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WorkAHolic Member |
quote: ---------------------------------------- Wallace1 wrote: "noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust..." ---------------------------------------- Wallace1... Lack of patience doesn't mean lack of trust. The only posters I have seen imply lack of trust are you and a few of your buds. Everyone else seems just anxious for some good news. How can you say it conveys mistrust? Your statements convey mistrust. Please don't speak for me or others. IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
quote:[/B][/QUOTE] Question: Do you trust Melvin? IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
originally posted by tradingpennys: quote: Implicitly! Melvins word is gospel, at least when he's not drunk. LOL! IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
Unfortunately for the innocent investors, especially in the world of the Bulletin Board and Pink Sheet stocks, a simple cold call to a company about exploring the possibility of discussing the concept of possibly negotiating a working relationship at some time in the future can magically turn into a "strategic alliance" between the two companies in a press release. A grant application to the government which hasn't even been filed, can suddenly be deemed to be "close to approval". A non-existent and completely fabricated "buy" recommendation, supposedly issued by an established investment house, that was simply conjured up in the devious mind of a stock manipulator can suddenly show up in a press release with all the apparent credibility of a highly respected Merrill Lynch telecommunications analyst's recommendation on a NYSE company. (OK, bad choice for an analogy but you get the point). Since press releases by companies are not subject to verification of accuracy or truthfulness by the services that distribute them, the investing public has no idea that any of them are anything but reliable and truthful information and only subject to the usual safe harbor provisions which say, "all this might never happen as stated". Sadly it doesn't say, "every word here could just as easily be a big fat lie intended only for the purpose of ripping off the investing public and enriching the promoters and insiders". It is true that, companies that manipulate their stocks through false or misleading press releases can be, and often are, held accountable by the SEC but, unfortunately, this can often take several years to come to light and that is long after the proverbial horse has left the proverbial barn and all that remains is the pain of loss and the bad taste left in the investor's mouth from another betrayal of trust. There are only a handful of groups that work to inform the public about scams and rip offs by public companies that use illegal or questionable tactics in promoting their stock. These tactics usually include the publishing of false or misleading press releases. IP: Logged |
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WorkAHolic Member |
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I like Melvin. I think he truly believes in what he says, though he may be misinformed or confused about facts. Although he may not be the best IR guy around, I don't think he would intentionally lie. He may, in his own way, shade facts to keep from disclosing sensitive information, but I do not believe he would intentionally lie to us. His enthusiasm and excitement seem to get the best of him and some take him way too seriously. I like enthusiasm and excitement. It is my opinion that most stockholders are frustrated because we don't have answers as of yet, and most believe there is a reason for not having those answers. It is the very, very few that associate lack of information for mistrust. Those are two important and different issues. Just because the time frame dosen't coincide with the rumors or guestimates of some on these boards, doesn't indicate lying and mistrust. There has been nothing that this company has done to warrant mistrust and I resent someone stating otherwise without facts. Some on this board mix fact with theory and present the total package as fact. Not good. The facts are all representative of a good company fighting to keep this business viable. Just because we don't know all the facts dosen't mean they misrepresent. I trust this company which is why I invested in it. If I did not trust them, I would move on. I suggest others do the same. IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
Noahltl wrote: Some mistrust comes from a lack of understanding Highwaychild wrote: Deuces and one-eyed-jacks are wild. Could all be one he$$ of a poker face U. C. has. Could be a bluff, could be a royal flush.But I'm all in, and I call. WorkAHolic wrote(edited): Lack of patience doesn't mean lack of trust. Everyone else seems just anxious for some good news. How can you say it conveys mistrust? Please don't speak for me or others. -------------------------------------------- Noahltl, it’s not a question of a “lack of understanding”. Understanding what is going on is what makes the problem obvious. Child, whenever UC shows his face, especially at race tracks, he looks more and more like a con man to me, not a “poker face”. Bluff??? Sure, and the “flush” is you and others flushing your CMKX shs and dividends down the drain. Work, lack of patience…anxious??? What is there about that whole CMKX operation, UC and others that does not convey mistrust? I speak neither for you nor for others. It is just apparent from posts that more and more of the CMKX diehards are seeing the light or at least having serious reservations. I’d say you folks have a foul wind blowing and it’s not Jeanne, Ivan or anything natural…but IS man made! And, all three of you bought in to it…known as CMKX. What kind of answers can any of you give me to the many questions being asked? “Rantings” (an obvious diversion)! “Deuces and one-eyed jacks are wild” (kid’s game and meaningless)! “Patience and anxious for good news” (hasn’t happened to date and probably never will)! Stock has been doing nothing but going down!!!!!! TELLING PERFORMANCE!!!! IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
Wallace said: "Noahltl, it’s not a question of a “lack of understanding”. Understanding what is going on is what makes the problem obvious." Exactly Wallace, but it is your understanding, not ours. If you bring forward facts to go with your "understanding" then you may be able to get some of us to come over to your side. Your abstract posts do not convince anyone, it only takes up thread space. You try to use some unknown, unproven knowledge that you claim to have of Wall Street to support nothing other than opinion. Sorry, we need facts or we're not moving. IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
Work, Only a fool would keep a known fool in an IR position! It is too important an entry to the public and to financing opportunities. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
quote: If you haven't noticed some of the prior posts here about Melvin, let me repeat. Melving is kept in that position to justify a paycheck so that he can care for his sick wife. Beleive it or not, Urban is just that way. Shortl after Glenn got involved, Melvin was gagged about anything except drilling, of which he has some expertise. When the reverse merger is done, Vicky Curran is already being "prepped" for the job as IR for SGGM. So why not give Melvin a break? IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
noahltl, you have been literally beaten over the head with fact after fact. You just plain do not listen or chose to ignore them. You keep spinning round and round with the same old redundant material re CMKX. Don't you get the least bit dizzy with all the SPINNING? Seems that you did last night! LOL IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
noahltl wrote: Melving is kept in that position to justify a paycheck so that he can care for his sick wife. Beleive it or not, Urban is just that way. ---------------------------------------- Was that information released in an "official company PR" or is it just another of your speculative spins re CMKX? Maybe you are an "insider" and UC has provided you with that information unbeknownst to anyone else? Are you now the official CMKX IR spokesman? IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
quote: JB...We missed you too. Just now got back home and saw your greetings. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
quote: Hey Walace, let Noah and the rest of us spin. It's gonna be all over but the shouting in a couple of weeks. The shouting you will hear are the shouts of joy for those of us who are long and shouts of pain for the bashers who failed their bosses. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
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This stock will not fit into any form or mold, until Roger is done getting it into full reporting status. Nor will the full story be known until security precautions are lifted. Don't you think Kensington / DeBeers would love to know Urban and Roger are up to? Don't you think the MM's would love to know what's coming next? Why is it so difficult for you to understand why security is so important to this stock? As difficult as it may be for you, pretend for a moment that my theory on the UCAD dividend is true. Can you not see why they couldn't have told us about this in advance. The MM's wouldn't have placed the naked shares in peoples accounts and gotten caught. There is more to come. More twists and turns and head fakes. We can't be told everything until it comes to pass. And the bashers will continue to use the companies inabilities to inform its shareholders, to turn around and bash them for it. Once again, for the bashers, is this just a fun game for you? Haven't you already learned that we ain't movin' on some opinion that you carry here? It's a waste of time and thread space. We are only going to move on DD and PR. IP: Logged |
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case Member |
I have a dumb question about this news. How many of you usually get a news on a company on Saturday?? CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 September 25, 2004 Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004 This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm Tel: (203) 375-9609 NASDAQ Market Data Integrity IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
Noahltl wrote: You try to use some unknown, unproven knowledge that you claim to have of Wall Street to support nothing other than opinion. --------------------------------------------- Starting to get into the personal attack mode again, noahltl? ---------------------------------------------
Exactly my point, noahltl. You refuse to see the facts that I, and many others, have presented here about CMKX. Noahltl also wrote: Even those who know pinks, know that this is true. You cannot apply models, therefore you cannot apply deductions based on those models. This stock will not fit into any form or mold, until Roger is done getting it into full reporting status. Nor will the full story be known until security precautions are lifted. Don't you think Kensington / DeBeers would love to know Urban and Roger are up to? There is more to come. More twists and turns and head fakes. We can't be told everything until it comes to pass. We are only going to move on DD and PR. IP: Logged |
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highwaychild Member |
With news like this comming out more and more... http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C08%5C31%5C30843011.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=NNOS No wonder Wall St. Wally's gettin' stressed. IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
case, Unusual but not unknown. Can happen at any time with any company. IP: Logged |
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