posted September 01, 2004 21:11            

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Originally posted by glassman:
not only that:
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Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws.
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posted September 01, 2004 21:12            

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So ?

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posted September 01, 2004 21:17            

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
You looking for a fight tonight buddy?

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posted September 01, 2004 21:19            

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Originally posted by highwaychild:
HA HA HA.Then why is it on SEC.GOV/answers???HA HA HA.

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hahahaha hiway i quoted that directly from the SEC<GOV answers..if you actually look there you will see it...

Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws. The quiet period extends from the time a company files a registration statement with the SEC until SEC staff declares the registration statement "effective." During this period, the federal securities laws limit what information a company and related parties can release to the public. Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933 discusses these limitations.

this is the page you posted the link to--do you actually read the links or do you just post what they tell you to?

posted September 01, 2004 21:22            

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How dare you doubt R Glenn. Anyone who can make 300B share deal with Howard Hughes and the MM's could surely make a secret deal with SEC. He will just explain to go public at the required time would be detrimental to the "master plan". I'm sure they would be understanding, and agree the filing can come after the quiet period. This guy is a magician, Urban is a genius, and Melvin is a horses ass. Now tell me how can a team like that be beat, buddy.

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posted September 01, 2004 21:28            

She could have added those also.

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
I've got a bad feeling that he might be working on another 800 billion share deal as we speak.

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posted September 01, 2004 21:34            

An issuer that is in registration should maintain communications with the public as long as the subject matter of the communications is limited to ordinary-course business and financial information, which may include the following:

advertisements concerning the issuer's products and services;

Exchange Act reports required to be filed with the Commission;

proxy statements, annual reports to security holders and dividend notices;

press announcements concerning business and financial developments;

answers to unsolicited telephone inquiries concerning business matters from securities analysts, financial analysts, security holders and participants in the communications field who have a legitimate interest in the issuer's affairs; and

posted September 01, 2004 21:40            

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
So much for a quiet period excuse. This as per Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933:

An issuer that is in registration should maintain communications with the public as long as the subject matter of the communications is limited to ordinary-course business and financial information, which may include the following:

advertisements concerning the issuer's products and services;

Exchange Act reports required to be filed with the Commission;

proxy statements, annual reports to security holders and dividend notices;

press announcements concerning business and financial developments;

answers to unsolicited telephone inquiries concerning business matters from securities analysts, financial analysts, security holders and participants in the communications field who have a legitimate interest in the issuer's affairs; and

security holders' meetings and responses to security holder inquiries relating to these matters.67

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posted September 01, 2004 21:42            

Thanks for the link. Will give it a shot.

highwaychild,

posted September 01, 2004 21:43            

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Up,

Thanks for the link. Will give it a shot.

highwaychild,

Please refer to me as Wallace. I do not recall ever distorting your username and I ask that you do likewise with mine. Thank you.

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posted September 01, 2004 21:45            

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They are in a secret quiet time, can't be reached for two more weeks. This can be an unusal gag order from the SEC as part of the secret deal. I just wonder what Dr D, Zen, and Sterling could do with that little precious piece of information shadow man posted

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posted September 01, 2004 21:47            

Don't know how long I will post on this thread, but I thought I might at least give it a brief shot.

posted September 01, 2004 22:01            

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will, how are you pal? LMAO at that one!!
Really do have a sense of humor haven't you?
Don't know how long I will post on this thread, but I thought I might at least give it a brief shot.

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posted September 01, 2004 22:07            

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Originally posted by glassman:
hahahaha hiway i quoted that directly from the SEC<GOV answers..if you actually look there you will see it...

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Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws. The quiet period extends from the time a company files a registration statement with the SEC until SEC staff declares the registration statement "effective." During this period, the federal securities laws limit what information a company and related parties can release to the public. Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933 discusses these limitations.

this is the page you posted the link to--do you actually read the links or do you just post what they tell you to?

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posted September 01, 2004 22:14            

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Originally posted by Upside:
The question is if all of these claims were transferred to cMKI/M/X, why aren't they now showing up under their name?

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posted September 01, 2004 22:20            

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Originally posted by highwaychild:
secman,I usualy like to play on PR.I'm not out to hurt anybody.I'm just kickin' back, waiting for news.
Kick 'em when there up,kick 'em when their down...Gives 'em dirty laundry.

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posted September 01, 2004 22:21            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
YES This is something we need to know. At the time the were talking about 17-22 claims . Now they are speaking of 1.4m acres(certainly more claims) If the claims are not officially CMKM then we have nothing anyway.
VAN

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posted September 01, 2004 22:35            

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Originally posted by secman:

sit down , shut up you got own3d
bye clown...

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posted September 01, 2004 22:50            

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Now that is some good DD UPSIDE!!

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posted September 01, 2004 23:03            

***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

Good Luck

Notes:
A. Quote from the Dec. 4, 2002 PR http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75107

This is the first in many targeted acquisitions and ""roll-ups"" of existing diamond and other mineral resources companies. With a seasoned management team, high technology exploration methods that can better profile diamondiferous kimberlite pipes (both magnetic and non-magnetic), and on-line audit oversight of mining operations, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International is poised to take advantage of a consolidation of junior mining companies without losing focus on its core claims in Saskatchewan.

B. Information regarding a seminar sponsored by Edwards & Angell http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75111

Edwards & Angell were sponsors at the seminar, and the panel discussion covered the details of the best way to consolidate. The article is from 2/26/99

C. To learn more about roll ups and CMKX follow the links below: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=518274

posted September 01, 2004 23:15            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
LANEBRO
A person(by own admission) of two weeks does not hold a position to make some strong statements you have. You are talking to people here with far more knowledge. I suggest continuing your education for another year or so. At that time maybe a question or two would be in order. We have lost some great posters from this site
because of this type of confrontation.
Should you decide not to take this as a helpful offer I will add you to my little green book of bashers.
VAN

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posted September 01, 2004 23:27            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!

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Hey, VAN buddy! Ever consider it's all marketing? And from WHOM I wonder. Claim to what, a plot'o'land. I hit oil in my kid's sandbox. Buy MY stock,will ya. I race too.

posted September 01, 2004 23:27            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Shadow,
It's not much but this is pulled from an old
CMKI filing:

On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.

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Here is a reply to an inquiry to Morgain minerals about their claims being optioned to CMKM.

By: arete
06 Feb 2004, 12:35 PM EST
Msg. 62937 of 518692
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I just spoke with Ray Mongeau of Morgain Minerals and he said that MM and UC, he knows him and has seen him, had a discussion 2 years ago but has never heard back from him to finalize any deal. He said they definitely didn't have any deal including any option arrangement for MM claims. The original talks called for UC to buy MM claims for $120,000. So those claims from MM are not apart of UCs collection.

posted September 01, 2004 23:41            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WILL
I am one of those who believes if the facts are in, the business run with attention to detail, good management, etc. It won"t make any difference what is said. We really need to lock down some of these things like SHADOW is doing, claims,track intercompany ownership,etc.We need to use public document as much as possible. PR'S though better than rumor can be only part truthful. It is very apparent on this board how a PR can be interpreted many ways. I don't agree with Wallace about the ancillary companys, I have already almost gone to free shares on 25m CMKX by trading them. Thta is my hedge,but we still need the poop on CMKX.
UPSIDE-Your research neglected to mention wether there were any diamonds.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]

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posted September 01, 2004 23:45            

***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

reduce WHAT COSTS?--
and i agree about the plan it IS the PR's


Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

what proces is he "efficientizing" LOL selling more shares?

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

they've stuck to the dilution plan that's for SURE

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

they need more than 2 micro-diamonds

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

economies of scaleand synergy will make it obvious...LOL
whichever one has the smallest OS will lead the way

Good Luck you're gonna need it

posted September 02, 2004 00:36            

I have been reading many posts. Some folks are hanging on to this incredible future prospect. Others are trying to prove UC is a joke.

It's all so very simple really.

Urban likes racing. (can't blame the man)
Urban found a cash cow.

You'll probably do okay if you quit waiting for instant gratification.

Go live your life.
Check back every now and then. Move accordingly.

It's all a game.
A game of patience.

No diamonds.
No financials.
Lottsa worms... okay, bad joke.

Have fun, or get out/ life is too short. Trust me here.

It's really NOT much money out of pocket.

Quit trying to figure out what you absolutely don't have an inkling of.

Planned that way? Hmmmm?

Bottom line:
Urban IS brilliant. I have to admire his marketing strategy. In your face!

posted September 02, 2004 06:23            

In terms of the mineral rights, it is disturbing that our mineral rights are
not registered with the government as
CMKX or CMK. anything. If you look at
the listing you will see new additions
and at time different percentages owned
by each group. I would feel much more
comfortable if the claims were in the
companies name and not Urban's... The
point is that we do not know anything
that is going on... Investors have put
many, many, millions of dollars into this
company. The company has a responsibility
to shareholders.

All we know is that CMKX has rights to
1.4M acres... We do not know what percentage
we have of those rights. We do not know if
Urban has control of other rights uniquely...

We may find out in the future that Urban has
struck gold and diamonds... on his claims and
not CMKX... but seeing how he is such a great
guy he might actually give the 40,000 shareholders of CMKX a small percentage.

As for Glenn... he has one job for which
he is paid for and that is to keep Urban
between the guardrails and from behind
the bars. His interests do not lie with
the shareholder but the company. (In most
cases the interests of the company are in
the interests of the shareholder. Not sure
with this company - any real move will require
a reverse split or merger and both will
have the same effect on the current shareholders
In my humble opinion.

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Originally posted by bill1352:
about sask ltd. i think that came up awhile ago..as 4 differant companies own differant %'s of the same claim it is held under one name. common sence says for there to be no real claims then 5 companies including shane resourses are in on the scam and since only cmkx is not reporting it would be highly unlikely for that to be true. remember all these companies have had prs about the same claims and canada is much stricter about pr's then the U.S.

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posted September 02, 2004 08:38            

Now that DD puts a whole new meaning to the phrase, "CMKX to da MOON!"

And, "double secret quiet time theory" ?

Priceless!

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Originally posted by Upside:
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!

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