posted October 04, 2004 14:57            

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Originally posted by sdrobert:
OH MY GOD GLASSMAN SAID TO HOLD!!!!!!!!!!
AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!
WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!
What if they just decide to authorize more when they run out??

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i said CONSIDER it..LOL

posted October 04, 2004 15:03            

insiders almost always have to participate, they at least have to look the other way, depending on the circumsatnces...

prior to the bursting of the bubble after Y2K, you could turn on the TV to Bloomberg or MSNBC, see an analyst come on TV promote a stock they own, and watch it go up....
is that pumping dumping if they sold it as it ranup from their recomendation?

the internet has just made it all more confusing for now...

posted October 04, 2004 18:16            

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Originally posted by sdrobert:
One last question or favor. I am trying to get information on Roger Glenn, both good and bad, does anyone have any cases he might have been involved. I know he was involved in publishing a book so I dont need to know that. Maybe a list of company he specificaly represented not the companies his lawfirm represented but whom he specificaly represented. I tried to find on search engines with no luck and the lawfirms website doesnot seem to be specific per each person

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posted October 04, 2004 19:05            

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Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
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posted October 05, 2004 00:46            

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Work,

I am willing to take you up on that offer to purchse with the following provisions:

1. Contract effective 10/04/04.
2. You pay .0005 per share for 20 million shs.
3. You pay in cash or cashier's check tomorrow.
4. Upon delivery of said cash/check above, I will purchase 20 million shs of CMKX, will obtain physical certificates so you are protected against NSS, and deliver said shs. within 3 days of receipt.
5. CONTRACT MUST BE FIRM, LEGAL AND NON-CANCELABLE.

Put your money where your mouth is!

Incidentally, any such exchange between you and I would not show up on daily trading since it would not be taking place through the normal channels...perfectly legal too.

PS: Have you ever seen anyone on the Bowery of NYC? Do you think they look any worse than the person described? What would you think of a Bowery bum if you saw him dress as described...and, believe me, that is how they dress?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 04, 2004).]

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Hey Wally, you've just declared CMKX undervalued!!

The only "Bowery Bums" here are you and your coharts. The only difference is that you guys are much bigger bums in that you hide behind a keyboard. You possess nothing of worth that I want.

I'll have nothing to do with your deals mainly because I don't trust you.

Funny, huh? I'd trust that "Bowery Bum" (at the races) as you called him before I'd trust you. I know the kind of person you are from your words, not your appearance.

posted October 05, 2004 02:09            

Freedom's report from the races
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:09 am

by Freedom2sail
Gemologist

Joined: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 662
Location: Chicago Area

Okay here is the information I heard while at the races in Joliet on Saturday October 2nd. Feel free to confirm or disconfirm any of what is written here. That is, after all, the value of posting information in a public forum.

First let me report that there were no members of management at these races other than Ron Casavant. The single most valuable aspect of the information that I obtained was based on the fact that it was acquired from individuals who had attended multiple races and had many conversations with management. Most of what I heard was essentially a re-affirmation that much of what is reported on the boards can be substantiated by individuals who were present when it was said by someone in management. Everyone’s spirits were very high and most seemed very confident.

Ron Casavant

I met Ron briefly but did not carry on a conversation with him. He struck me as having a genuinely humble disposition. Other shareholders were saying that he was being especially tight lipped. His demeanor and body language seems to convey that he was not looking to get into any conversations. He could have simply been busy with the race. It was speculated however that management didn’t come because we are very close to bringing this thing home and they didn’t want to risk any mis-steps.

Topogigo

Spoke with Topogigo (Anthony) within a group setting. Anthony is a CMKX employee who is the driver for their Humvee. During a conversation between him, I, another shareholder and Ed Miller, Anthony talked towards Ed about reports in a hushed tone that UC was supposedly seen at the Indy and Dallas races. He was betting that UC would show up in Chicago due to the fact that Jeff had just raced his fastest time ever. This led me to believe that UC was coming to the races covertly because he simply wanted to be there for the races and had a hard time staying away. I took the opportunity to ask why he hadn’t been attending. Ed said that he was advised by ‘others’ not to attend, not because of what he might say but what others might report that he said. Anthony nodded in agreement.

John from Bloomington, IL.

Spoke to a shareholder named John from Bloomington, Il. who attended the TN., Indy and Chicago races. He had spoken directly to Rendall Williams at the TN. race. What he reported of the conversation confirmed that he heard everything that we had seen posted about statements Rendall had made at prior races which I won’t repeat to avoid redundancy and save time. He saw the piece of Gold Rendall was passing around and heard him say that we plan on pulling one kilogram of gold a month out of the Yellow River Mine. John said he heard from Jose that Kazmurski was at the Sask. meeting. Jose later neither confirmed nor denied this and may have side stepped the question.

El Camino (Jose)

Jose struck me as a very calm, sincere and confident individual. I’ve never taken the time to read his posts so this was really my first impression of the guy. We talked one on one and in group settings for a good hour. I would venture to say this is a man of character. His father was an electrical engineer who immigrated to the states when he was a boy. He said his father was unable to get a job due to ‘racism’ and they ended up in the Bronx on welfare where Jose grew up. He is probably in his late 40’s. He said he got himself out of the Bronx and gave me the impression of being relatively successful in his investments (e.g. he said he receives $500 monthly from a GM investment). He mentioned this when people were asking him about exactly how long they should hold. His point being, “why would I ever sell GM?” He has a degree in music and theology and will be giving the benediction at the shareholders meeting in Vegas. He is not an ordained minister. Said he never felt called to be but it was evident that he feels strongly about his faith.

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Re: FREEDOM'S REPORT FROM THE RACES
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He was at the Saskatchewan meeting. He had a laptop set up with all the pics being shown in a slideshow. I set next to him as he narrated different parts of the trip. He was obviously practiced at not saying too much and not answering certain questions.

He said the first part of the trip was entirely fishing. And yes, Roger Glenn was up there for the fishing part of the trip. I saw pictures of him in a red sweatshirt hanging out with the guys at the cabin(LOL). I also saw pictures of Ed Dhonau and Rendall Williams at the fishing part of the trip.

Jose said the second part of the trip was strictly business meetings in which the shareholders were not a part. He side stepped a question about who all was there but mentioned that there were 18 in all including 4 shareholders. Jose said it was originally his idea and he called Sterling, who he has some history with, and asked if he wanted to go. It was also rumored around the race that Kazmurski from Cameco who also sits on UCA’s board was at the Sask. meeting. Jose would neither confirm nor deny this and side stepped the question about him and the others. He acknowledged only those in the photos. I regret not pushing a bit more on this point because I feel in retrospect I might have gotten a bit more conversation out of this point.

He also had a picture of a cracked drill bit. Circumstantial evidence to support the rumor of the cracked drill bit. So know we know there was a cracked drill bit but what that means is still pretty open. I know people love to believe that we hit this huge pocket of diamonds or a really big one but that seems unlikely and illogical to me. Possibly a flaw in the metal or it was poorly cast or it could’ve been operator error and they were just pushing it to fast and hard.

He gave the distinct impression that he had insights that he could not share. I hope that if that is true UC has had the forethought to give these guys employee/insider status. I believe it probable that these guys know more then we do judging from their behavior and the fact that they have attend multiple functions in which they’ve interacted with management.

I asked about whether Dhonau was the majority shareholder for UCAD and if he had started UCAD. He factually stated that he was and that he had. He said that he initially approached Rendall Williams when he was running Barrington Foods and took over the company. Dhonau apparently liked what he saw in Williams and kept him on. Jose said Barrington foods was a company that was in part intended to feed the hungry.

During our conversation Ed Miller was present for most of the time. He was mostly quiet in the group setting. I corralled him individually later but I’ll get to that. When I asked Jose if he thought the O/S was 800 billion they both were quick to respond with a “No, no way.” They wouldn’t elaborate but stated it as if they had information that allowed them to know it for certain. The only other statement Jose made was the “UC has a responsibility to continue to retire shares.” The latter statement was stated in a very deliberate and scripted way. Take it for what it is worth.

Ed Miller

Now here is a man who knows CMKX and seems very confident in the stock. Most of what he shared with me were based on conversations Ed Dhonau had with him and other shareholders at the Dallas race.

He confirmed that Dhonau started and owns the majority of UCAD. He said that Dhonau is the deep pockets money behind this whole deal with CMKX. Apparently Dhonau comes from the Valvoline family as in Valvoline Oil. Ed said at age 22 he walked in and fired the CEO and took over. He also said Dhonau was in college at age 14. While Jose said that CMKX is central to everything that is happening Ed said that Dhonau’s the money and is calling the shots. . He said that UC and Dhonau have a close friendship and that he was the single largest shareholder of CMKX…with his own private money, not including Nevada Minerals. He said he thought his position must be huge and was surprised that Green Baron wasn’t the single largest shareholder!

He said that UCAD management was in Ecuador during the race weekend looking at picking up a ‘few’ goldmines. He said all the mines were actively producing. He said the Dhonau began picking up goldmines because he wanted CMKX to have a revenue stream now, not when the Canada properties started producing. He said they had picked up one mine for a song, $60,000 dollars. Damn, I could’ve gotten financed for that. One thing Ed brings to the table is connections. Apparently this guys is networked worldwide including with the Ecuadorian government. He also said miners in Ecuador usually make $70 a month and that Dhonau opted to pay them $140 a month. He said that when these guys go back to their villages they live like kings. Miners in that country are already considered to be highly paid and with Dhonau they make double.

Regarding UCAD itself he said the Rachael property is really about the processing plant. He said that they have mining companies lining up already. UCAD keeps 11% of whatever they process and that’s incentive to the whole deal.

He said that there will be no merger between UCAD and CMKX and that they won’t touch us with the present share structure. He wouldn’t elaborate on precisely what that meant. He did say that CMKX would have to be fully reporting for a year first.
He also said the Rendall told him the next move for UCAD is to the NASDAQ and that this process is in the works. He thought that UCAD has the a potential to be a $30 stock. He stated CMKX’s next stop was the OTCBB.

Regarding the O/S he said that companies can base the divi’s on whatever they want, the O/S, the A/S, the float. They can give it to you and not me, whatever. He also thought that it was possible that they had already filed and were presently waiting for SEC approval so keep an eye on Edgar. He said that the history part of the financial had been completed ( the most extensive piece) and they were now working on present day financials. He also said that U.S. law prevents mining companies from including in there valuation minerals that are still in the ground. They can include things like trees and potash. Canadian owned companies can include minerals in there valuations. He said that he felt there was definitely a NSS situation as did Jose. They both anticipate a short squeeze and talked about selling 10% through the squeeze and going long on the rest as one possible scenario. He said that according to Dhonau a r/s was not an issue and to make the point he said they wouldn’t even consider doing one below .10 cents.

He said that the 10 million was from an investor from outside the companies involved based in Nevada. He said that UC worked out a deal with the head of SGGM to get Vicki Curran the job. Finally he said he believed that DeBeers was very very interested in buying us and ultimately they would. He said UC wouldn’t even talk to them and that he really doesn’t like them but the not talking to them was a strategy to increase the potential money for any future deal.

There was a phrase going around the races that I heard from Jose, Ed Miller, New York Joe (great guy and seemed to be in the know and was also a New York fireman). Whenever the topic of the Las Vegas party would come up they would look at you with a knowing smiles and say, “Just go.” And if you anyone offered any kinds of yea but’s or questions they smile a little bigger and say “Just GO.” New York Joe also assured me that he’d see me there. (LOL) It’s open to interpretation because that is the way if was left. They also said that they had a big announcement to make at the party and that Roger Glenn would be speaking as well.

Finally, when I was talking to Ed Miller, who again was basing most of what he told me off conversations he had with Ed Dhonau, he said that the GEMM dividend had not been exercised. He did however say that it had been extended. Reportedly, UC wants to wait and see what happens with Juina. It is possible he may not want to end up owning more of it. Apparently they are still having difficulties with the Ecuadorian government. Sounds like a wise and prudent move IMO. It also suggests that we can’t rule out that GEMM dividend just yet and would also explain why they bumped it back a full 6 weeks.

That’s it guys. Best of luck to all of us!

Oh yea and “Just go.”

Freedom

posted October 05, 2004 09:54            

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Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, you didn't answer MY question. are you proud of your involvement with CMKX so far?

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posted October 05, 2004 10:01            

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Thought I would stop by for a visit. Been very busy at the Christian Traders board, but couldn't help but come and see what a board, now dominated with negatives might have become. Y'all gotta be "proud" of what you have here.

i was just continuing his conversation.....

posted October 05, 2004 10:03            

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After reading the race report, I had to stop by one more time to let everyone see a different report from the race. I guess maybe people just see what they want to see.

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posted October 05, 2004 11:25            

Glass, Am I proud of being in CMKX? I don't have any real emotions one way or the other about my investment in CMKX, unless you count confidence. My comment about being proud, was what those of you who coninuously express negativism about CMKX, have done to this thread and this board.

Personally I think you all take pride in believing that you have truly "hijacked" this thread as others are saying. You have taken it over, simply because many people just don't like the smell of negativism and personal bashing, and gone on to where the air is fresher.

Upside, I purposely made my statement about people seeing what they want to see, in order to encourage the readers to make up their own minds about the differing race reports, and which one they believe. You saw what you wanted to, and Freedom saw what he wanted to. It just points up the difference between being negative and being positive. And I am sure that most of the readers can see the difference between the two reports.

Wallace, I couldn't help but notice your comments about the Christians and your slight of the Lord and Savior of the world, by purposely writing His name with a small "j". You don't normally make capitalization mistakes in your writing, so I have to believe that it was an intentional attempt to demean Him and those of us who believe in Him. I don't know what that had to do with CMKX, so it only points up more of the "smell" I was talking about that has permeated your posts and some of the others.

JEAL, thanks for welcoming me back, but I really just stopped in to see what was going on here, and my comments to that are listed above. There really are other boards where CMKX is discussed, both positive and negative, but "bashing" is not permitted. At those boards, the whiteness of someone's teeth is not a criteria, and the Lord is not demeaned. And now that I mention it, it's time to go back there, and see what CMKX is doing today.

Peace and prosperity. Know the source.

posted October 05, 2004 12:10            

Personally I think you all take pride in believing that you have truly "hijacked" this thread as others are saying.

Wallace, I couldn't help but notice your comments about the Christians and your slight of the Lord and Savior of the world, by purposely writing His name with a small "j". You don't normally make capitalization mistakes in your writing, so I have to believe that it was an intentional attempt to demean Him and those of us who believe in Him. I don't know what that had to do with CMKX, so it only points up more of the "smell" I was talking about that has permeated your posts and some of the others.
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The only person (other than yourself in the above particular post) that I have ever seen state this thread has been hijacked is WWJD.
That is because others were willing to counter her cult-like fanatical pumping of CMKX.

You are damn right I purposely used a small "j" in my post. I had said nothing about WWJD, had been saying next to nothing about CMKX. Then, as soon as some so-called christian posts, she attacks me viciously again?

As far as your and other's religious beliefs are concerned, I obviously do not believe as WWJD does, may or may not believe as you do and prefer that it not be used on a stock market forum. I have my own beliefs about religion, but I do not pump that here as do you, WWJD and others. It has no place here!!!

As far as "smell" is concerned, that too is a matter of opinion. I have never been to that christian trader site, but I can "smell" it every time one of you posts on this thread. Therefore, I know what kind of crap to expect there.

Now about "bashing". No one could bash CMKX any more than have the people running CMKX. That is another FACT none of your avid pumpers fail to recognize or admit. That is where the responsibility for the previous reduction, the current pps and the future pps of CMKX rests. No where else. If anything, it is the pumpers who are probably maintaining the pps by buying more and more shares to line the pockets of UC and others as they sell more and more of the authorized shares. Where in hell do you think those shares are coming from?

Better things to do for now...so, BYE.

posted October 05, 2004 13:59            

i've been watching that too. unless the restriction has been removed these shares can not be used to cover any naked short. the dividend shares to go to our broker accounts from the DTC, ucad's t/a sends them there. now if the DTC sends brokers restricted & unrestricted shares dont you think the brokers would know? lets say thursday our brokers depoisit both types of shares in the differant accounts. some ppl would have rerstricted shares & others unrestricted. the DTC nor the broker can restrict shares, only UCAD can. the news from ucad certainly couldn't cause this kind of run, something must be up.

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.S. Canadian Minerals to Release Schedule for Funding
October 05, 2004 08:42:00 AM ET

U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. UCAD announced today that it will be releasing the timetable for completion of the previously announced funding transaction with a London based private investment company within the next few days. Upon public release of information by the private investment company, UCAD will provide further details.

John S. Woodward, President of UCAD stated: "We are eagerly awaiting completion of this transaction as it will allow us to continue on our path of rapid growth and acquisition."

Further details will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

Contact Information: U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Chris Henneman, 303-220-8476

© 2004 BusinessWire

posted October 05, 2004 14:06            

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Originally posted by mdec:
noahltl

Whenever i see "the Lord this or jesus this" in a post its ususally from a Pumper.
mdec

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mdec, I didn't bring the subject up, Wallace did. Does that make him a pumper?

posted October 05, 2004 14:08            

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Originally posted by glassman:
i think that was BOTH barrels....

any response Noah?

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posted October 05, 2004 14:10            

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Originally posted by noahltl:
mdec, I didn't bring the subject up, Wallace did. Does that make him a pumper?

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posted October 05, 2004 14:12            

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Originally posted by mdec:
Maybe someone could set up an escrow account to hold the wagers that participants could make on the chances of CMKX reaching a share price of .002 within 2 months.

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posted October 05, 2004 14:43            

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Originally posted by osubucks30:
They keep DUMPING AND DUMPING AND ....

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posted October 05, 2004 14:56            

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Originally posted by osubucks30:
They keep DUMPING AND DUMPING AND ....

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posted October 05, 2004 15:44            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
MY UCAD DIVVY JUST HIT MY ACCOUNT
Bought 1000@5.15 Early August; Sold today @ 10.15. I guess you can apply any name you want to it.
VAN

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posted October 05, 2004 16:27            

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Bought 1000@5.15 Early August; Sold today @ 10.15. I guess you can apply any name you want to it.
VAN

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posted October 05, 2004 17:06            

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It is getting very tiresome to kick the manure off my shoes & come into the house to handle these trades. What does one do ??

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