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blueeyedtraderboy
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posted September 10, 2004 12:35     Click Here to See the Profile for blueeyedtraderboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to shower and get my sandwhich from the Deli down the road! adios TW.dress

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 14:21     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Volume low again -

1:59 PM

904,340,288

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 14:57     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I really needed to tell anyone what is happening with the PPS or volume

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tic_toc
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posted September 10, 2004 15:00     Click Here to See the Profile for tic_toc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey glad you did, cos I havnt even checked today. Interesting.

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 15:18     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tic_Toc

3:00PM - 1,042,143,296

1 hour trading volume = 137,803,008

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WinsumLosesum
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posted September 10, 2004 15:22     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa! That's a LOT of 9M @ .0003's that just went through from 15:19:46 to 15:19:47 !

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blueeyedtraderboy
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posted September 10, 2004 15:27     Click Here to See the Profile for blueeyedtraderboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those mysterious nine million blocks that appear from time to time....
lol...

-John-

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 15:28     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just Info

Item 5. Other information

General. The Company's financial resources have been substantially exhausted and management does not know of any significant additional financing available to the Company. The Company has no continuing on-going business operations at this time. The Company has been seeking, since early 1995, to satisfy its trade debt other than through a court supervised process, which would entail significant administrative expenses. The Company has been able to satisfy a substantial portion of its trade debt, but in light of its financial position, it is unlikely any payments will be made on its other indebtedness, which has been voluntary subordinated to the Company's trade creditors.

SEC Reporting Obligations. Because of the Company's financial condition and its consequent difficulty paying the attendant legal and accounting expenses, its ability to continue to meet its reporting obligations under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 remains questionable. The financial statements included with its Form 10-KSB for the year ended January 31, 2002, were not audited by an independent certified accountant, because the Company could not afford the cost of an audit.

Inability to Pay Indebtedness. Management does not presently anticipate that any of its outstanding obligations under its Operations Advances, Gold Delivery Contracts and term debt, a substantial portion of which outstanding obligations are held
by members of the Company's board of directors, can be satisfied. Accordingly, management does not believe, as a practical matter, that there is any remaining value to be ascribed to the Company's outstanding preferred stock or common stock.

Status of Properties. The status of the Company's mineral properties has not changed from the description contained in Item 2 of the Company's Form 10-KSB for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2002.

Source

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

FORM 1O-QSB

Quarterly Report Under Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934


For the Quarter Ended October 31, 2002

Commission File Number: 0-18616

ST. GEORGE METALS, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified In its charter)

Nevada 88-0227915
(State or other jurisdiction of (I.R.S. Employer
Incorporation or organization) Identification Number)

1800 N. Beauregard Street, Suite 150, Alexandria, Virginia 22311
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip code)

Registrant's telephone number, including area code: (703) 578-1802

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 15:29     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apologies - Above is from SGGM

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 15:31     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I imagine this may have been posted previously.

Sorry if it has......

SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc.
Com (1 Cent)

Address:
Box 446
Vigreville
AB T9C 1R4
Canada
Phone: 877-632-3133


Officers:
Mark Giebelhaus, Pres.

Shares Outstanding: 16,951,526 as of 2004-09-06

Estimated Market Cap: 5.933M as of 2004-09-08

Current Capital Change:
Stk. Div.=3%
Ex-Date: 2003-04-30
Record Date: 2003-04-29
Pay Date: 2003-05-02

Dividends: None


State of Incorporation: NV

Company Notes:
Note=11-02 company has no continuing on-going business operations


Transfer Agents:
PacWest Transfer, Warrenton, VA 20186


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rde3
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posted September 10, 2004 15:34     Click Here to See the Profile for rde3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It shows over 500,000,000 that's Millions
sold at 14:19

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Money_Penny
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I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.

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JEAL
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posted September 10, 2004 15:42     Click Here to See the Profile for JEAL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money_Penny -

Thanks for the update

Also for everyone -

Found this surfing, thought I would post. I am sure that most of us, would suspect something, but please pass it onto others.
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/wrongnumberscam.htm

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tic_toc
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posted September 10, 2004 16:06     Click Here to See the Profile for tic_toc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We see green next week.

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Upside
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posted September 10, 2004 16:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
We see green next week.

Taking bets on that tic?

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noahltl
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posted September 10, 2004 16:47     Click Here to See the Profile for noahltl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yet more info from call to SGGM
« Thread started on: Today at 1:37pm »

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Post from dustybutler1 at Mach's board. Link below. Sugarpaw


She indicated SGGM and CMKX were two separate companies, she is Urban's niece (and not Ron's daughter) but works solely for SGGM, and there will be PRs starting next week that will explain many, many things... including the $10M!
Just adding more bandwidth


She said she has been getting about 250 calls a day... not surprised by that, are we haha

Very professional IR person... just the way you want someone in that capacity to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see SGGM make a move next week... it is now at .305 on 800K volume... up 17% today.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4007391

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Money_Penny
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posted September 10, 2004 17:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Money_Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
We see green next week.

Sure, and my hairline will un-recede itself. LOL.

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tic_toc
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posted September 10, 2004 17:21     Click Here to See the Profile for tic_toc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol,well everyone and his dog has had their outlandish theory. We have had pages and pages of it for months. Now its my turn. And it only took five words. If it proves to be bullcrap throw it on the pile with the rest. At least it was a short theory.

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tic_toc
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posted September 10, 2004 17:23     Click Here to See the Profile for tic_toc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heres to a green hairline for you!!

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bill1352
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posted September 10, 2004 19:38     Click Here to See the Profile for bill1352     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted by: Pedro2004
In reply to: None Date:9/10/2004 9:36:18 AM
Post #of 94019

Pedro’s Theory

well i'd have to say that this theort sounds better then most and events of the last 2 months sure seem to head that way. but as with all theories a few ?'s remain as in how do you divide a dividend up to twice the number of shares as the a/s and not be able to go to the SEC or some da** goverment org and say folks look at this!!!! i mean if you have records saying 1.6 trillion shares are owned by somebody and you a/s was 500 billion 1 month ago do you even need a judge for the lawsuit??? you think bungs gonnads (see qbid) are in bad shape. even if UC screwed up and issued 300 billion shares over the a/s and had to correct the problem after the fact you got somebodys short hairs in a vise grip. does anyone think it would be ok to just let the mm's off the hook scott free. say " here we will just give everyone shares of all these other companies to make up for the mm's greed and just tell them shame, shame. if that happens i'm going back to my aged opium theory.

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RaiderJR
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posted September 10, 2004 20:49     Click Here to See the Profile for RaiderJR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still trying to figure out which of the partners to invest in.

Which company is going to be the winner?

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trgfunds
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posted September 10, 2004 22:09     Click Here to See the Profile for trgfunds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.


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Wallace#1
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From noahltl's repost above:

She indicated SGGM and CMKX were two separate companies, she is Urban's niece (and not Ron's daughter) but works solely for SGGM, and there will be PRs starting next week that will explain many, many things... including the $10M!
Just adding more bandwidth
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Wonder why that person "Sugarpaw" did not ask the obvious. Such as, "I understand they are two separate companies, but who owns SGGM"? "Does the Casavant family have a controlling interest in any way or are members of that family on the Bd of Dirs?"

Sure, she works solely for SGGM, but who hired her? Who got her the job there as opposed to working at CMKX?

Is this SGGM deal just another case of the left hand passing $$$$s to the right hand as has been done in the past?

PS: No reflection on you, noahltl.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 10, 2004).]

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blueeyedtraderboy
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posted September 10, 2004 22:16     Click Here to See the Profile for blueeyedtraderboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wallace,

I dug up some real 'DD Work' for you...

Go check it out. I think you can use this type of information.

Toodles
http://www.dailyitem.com/archive/2004/0823/biz/stories/05biz.htm

-Byrd-

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RaiderJR
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posted September 10, 2004 22:32     Click Here to See the Profile for RaiderJR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from another board, these companies, including SGGM all have the same address. Notice the oil company.

quote:

Here are some of the companies he is involved with...

DAVID DESORMEAU ANDREA DESORMEAU ANDREA DESORMEAU BUSINESS WORKS INC.

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU JON THIRIOT STONEHENGE INC

DAVID DESORMEAU JAMES KINNEY JAMES KINNEY CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.

DAVID J. DESORMEAU ANDREA J. DESORMEAU NONE LISTED INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS BUILDERS INC

JOHN D. GUZMAN DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.

RON CASAVANT DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDALL DAVID DESORMEAU AMDI INTERNATIONAL INC

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDELL DAVID DESORMEAU AMDI PETROLEUM INC.

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDELL DAVID DESORMEAU SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.

URBAN CASAVANT DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY

For details, go to this site....


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Money_Penny
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posted September 10, 2004 22:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Money_Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trgfunds:
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?


Sorry trgfunds, I don't know the answer to any of those questions. I will wait until I get my paper statements. However, I understand from other people who have got UCAD shares in their accounts that you cannot access them online since they are restricted.

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Steve020866
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quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.


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I have my statement in front of me from Lowtrades and it shows that I have 23 shares of UCAD. It also shows the payout of .0000155 per share of CMKX. I have 1.5 million shares of CMKX and that equals 23.65 shares of UCAD. Darn I lost 2 thirds a share, thats gonna hurt!!!! It also shows that it was moved to a type 4, LOC 1R account which is not a margin account because I have a margin account with Lowtrades and it doesn't show online. It must be a restricted type of account.

However, like MoneyPenny said this is a positive note that the outstanding should be 483 Billion. We will see when we get the rest of the spinoff shares.

Steve

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quote:
Originally posted by trgfunds:
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?


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Sorry, just got to this post.

It shows in my statement that the date received was 8/23/04. Not bad, only 3 days after effective date.

Can't answer about the available date for selling.

Steve

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trgfunds
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Ok I just pulled out my statement and it turns out I DID get my UCAD YAY! -- Since it came so quickly I wonder since Aug 31st was another record date for CIM shouldn't we have that one too? I didn't expect them this fast but I'm not complaining!

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I still say that the whole gang are all involved in the same companies and $$ goes from the Left Hand to the Right Hand and back to the Left Hand. But I could care less as long as some of the money makes it to my hands.
IMO: UCAD ownership is as follows:

U = Urban Casavant
C = Carolyn Casavant
A = Andrea Desormeau
D = David Desormeau

The true owners and controllers of UCAD ???
Anyone care to speculate on this theory???
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

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trgfunds
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Since we've heard that urban's neice is in charge of SGGM and when asked about it they were kinda hush hush, could it be that there is a possible merger with us and SGGM and the final resulting company is going to be the CIM shares that we will get 1 for 1? Then the share price would be an average of ours and theirs or something. I mean "Casavant International Mining" just sounds so mergerific. Any thoughts?

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OK now that the shares are showing...
you need to hear from who IS NOT getting shares...
those are the NSS........

anybody????????????????????????

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lbulbu
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[QUOTE] I have an ameritrade account and my monthly statement as of August 27 does not show me receiving any dividens yet. Do I need to contact ameritrade or just wait till I receive my Sept. statement any help would be appreciated.

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WinsumLosesum
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Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet?

I just emailed them. Will post their reply.

[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 11, 2004).]

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will
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I have freetrade, owned by ameritrade, didn't show up in my account, yet.

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noahltl
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posted September 11, 2004 14:40     Click Here to See the Profile for noahltl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sugarpaw
Re: WE GOT OUR UCAD DIVIDEND IN OUR ACCOUNT!!!
« Reply #17 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 2:20pm »

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This was posted earlier by DiamondWon see below for full copy.

{I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global.}


Well I said I would call 1st Global and Pacific. Just got off the phone with Jeff at 1st Global. I had two issues that needed to be addressed. First, Canada Etrade will not accept Certs on OTCBB and Pink stocks. The certs have to be returned to 1st Global with instructions as to which broker you want them electronically converted to. The Big Hassel is that they need to be "Medallioned!" In the states any bank can do this, not so in Canada! He suggested I open a US Etrade account which requires me to open a US Bank account. So this weekend I am off to Blaine, Wash.

My second question was pertaining to the UCAD and CIM dividends. I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global.

ALL dividends HAVE to go through 1st Global, and to date they have not received any shares from UCAD or CIM. When I asked how they could be coming up with these ratios that we are seeing, he said this info is coming from the OTCBB or DTC. He said that the actual ratios will in all likelihood be different. He said everytime someone comes up with a new ratio, his phone rings off the hook!

Jeff said, don't believe what you read or hear about from these Chat Rooms. No one at this point knows what the actual ratio will be, other than the company and 1st Global!

So, as soon as I think this should be a Black & White clear cut issue, we muddy the water with some brokers advancing shares. What happens when the ratio is declared and it turns out to be different, unclear how those brokerages will deal with the discrepancy.

Confusion, confusion....
DiamondWon

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
OK now that the shares are showing...
you need to hear from who IS NOT getting shares...
those are the NSS........

anybody????????????????????????


I haven't gotten any yet...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
[B]Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet?


I have 2 Ameritrade acounts. None showing up yet in either one.

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i find it had to believe anyone would have these shares and at the first rate. a broker might add them but since nobody knows the split yet other then the otc post which is probably very close any shares in an account will have to be adjusted thus more accounting paperwork, not something a broker would do on purpose.

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Ameritrade told me they were aware of all dividends coming thru, but were holding pending exact distrubtions. I can't speak for some of the other brokers ( some may have jumped the gun) but Ameritrade has always been accurate with what they told me. I think this is the same thing Bill said
VAN
PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice

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I have a Fidelity account and it does not credit my account with any of the divident shares. However, last time I talked to them, they assured me that if shares are in my account, they are good.

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VAN,

VAN wrote:

PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice
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Just keep slapping yourself and listen up!!!
That bit about the NSS was posted by Glassman. More "tripe dispersion", huh?

So much for YOUR valuable advice!

If there has been any CMKX naked short selling in huge amounts, Glassman just happens to be right.

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Does anyone here have any disputes with the math someone posted on another site as to the o/s?


There are 483,870,967,741 shares out there.
We now know that the PPS on the UCAD div is $4.75/ a share. So with that info, we can now figure out how many shares of CMKX there are.
The dividend was paying .0000155 share of UCAD for every share of CMKX. Multiply $4.75 by .0000155 and you will get a number of .000073625. That is $.000073625 amount of UCAD you will recieve for every share of CMKX that you have. Now take $.000073625 and mulitply it by the dividend amount of 7,500,000 shares of UCAD and you get a number of $35,625,000. This means that there is $35,625,000 out there of a pie that every CMKX shareholder will get a peice of at $.000073625 per one share held. So, multiply $35,625,000 by $.00007325.You get a number of 483,870,967,741.

Is that how one gets the o/s?

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will
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So, Melvin didn't lie, there isn't 400B, there's more than that.

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quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Does anyone here have any disputes with the math someone posted on another site as to the o/s?


There are 483,870,967,741 shares out there.
We now know that the PPS on the UCAD div is $4.75/ a share. So with that info, we can now figure out how many shares of CMKX there are.
The dividend was paying .0000155 share of UCAD for every share of CMKX. Multiply $4.75 by .0000155 and you will get a number of .000073625. That is $.000073625 amount of UCAD you will recieve for every share of CMKX that you have. Now take $.000073625 and mulitply it by the dividend amount of 7,500,000 shares of UCAD and you get a number of $35,625,000. This means that there is $35,625,000 out there of a pie that every CMKX shareholder will get a peice of at $.000073625 per one share held. So, multiply $35,625,000 by $.00007325.You get a number of 483,870,967,741.

Is that how one gets the o/s?


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Well, thats a hard way of doing it. The easiest way is to take the 7.5 million and divide it by the split ratio.

7500000 / .0000155 = 483870967741.935

This will give you CMKX's outstanding share count. You can't get any better numbers than that for accuracy. I don't know where all the other figures are coming from. The count of over 1 trillion outstanding shares was a bit far fetched. Someone got their numbers crossed somewhere. JMHO

Steve

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Looks accrurate to me. Early on I was usung 400B as outstanding and got .00001818, I think.

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Also someone posted from another site had an answer to the NSS issue.
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If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted.

In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme.

And had an excellent answer to the NSS issue. If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted.

In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme.
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Thanks Highway Child

I read that post on the other cmkx board...

It does make sense. However if the price is right the MM's can have all my shares

-John-

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Isn't that what everyone been waiting for? The big squeeze? The squeeze of the century?
Did y'all forget that?

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Van wrote:

"NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice"

Why would any of us take La Fem's advice!?!?! I'd sooner gargle with Bleech...

-John-

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