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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
I have to shower and get my sandwhich from the Deli down the road! adios TW.dress IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Volume low again - 1:59 PM 904,340,288 IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Like I really needed to tell anyone what is happening with the PPS or volume IP: Logged |
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tic_toc Member |
Hey glad you did, cos I havnt even checked today. Interesting. IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Tic_Toc 3:00PM - 1,042,143,296 1 hour trading volume = 137,803,008 IP: Logged |
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WinsumLosesum Member |
Whoa! That's a LOT of 9M @ .0003's that just went through from 15:19:46 to 15:19:47 ! IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Those mysterious nine million blocks that appear from time to time.... lol... -John- IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Just Info Item 5. Other information General. The Company's financial resources have been substantially exhausted and management does not know of any significant additional financing available to the Company. The Company has no continuing on-going business operations at this time. The Company has been seeking, since early 1995, to satisfy its trade debt other than through a court supervised process, which would entail significant administrative expenses. The Company has been able to satisfy a substantial portion of its trade debt, but in light of its financial position, it is unlikely any payments will be made on its other indebtedness, which has been voluntary subordinated to the Company's trade creditors. SEC Reporting Obligations. Because of the Company's financial condition and its consequent difficulty paying the attendant legal and accounting expenses, its ability to continue to meet its reporting obligations under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 remains questionable. The financial statements included with its Form 10-KSB for the year ended January 31, 2002, were not audited by an independent certified accountant, because the Company could not afford the cost of an audit. Inability to Pay Indebtedness. Management does not presently anticipate that any of its outstanding obligations under its Operations Advances, Gold Delivery Contracts and term debt, a substantial portion of which outstanding obligations are held Status of Properties. The status of the Company's mineral properties has not changed from the description contained in Item 2 of the Company's Form 10-KSB for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2002. Source SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION FORM 1O-QSB Quarterly Report Under Section 13 or 15(d)
Commission File Number: 0-18616 Nevada 88-0227915 1800 N. Beauregard Street, Suite 150, Alexandria, Virginia 22311 Registrant's telephone number, including area code: (703) 578-1802 IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Apologies - Above is from SGGM IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
I imagine this may have been posted previously. Sorry if it has...... SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc. Address:
Shares Outstanding: 16,951,526 as of 2004-09-06 Estimated Market Cap: 5.933M as of 2004-09-08 Current Capital Change: Dividends: None
Company Notes:
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rde3 Member |
It shows over 500,000,000 that's Millions sold at 14:19 IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees. At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!! BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted. IP: Logged |
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JEAL Member |
Money_Penny - Thanks for the update Also for everyone - Found this surfing, thought I would post. I am sure that most of us, would suspect something, but please pass it onto others. IP: Logged |
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tic_toc Member |
We see green next week. IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
quote: Taking bets on that tic? IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
Yet more info from call to SGGM « Thread started on: Today at 1:37pm » --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Very professional IR person... just the way you want someone in that capacity to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see SGGM make a move next week... it is now at .305 on 800K volume... up 17% today. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4007391 IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
quote: Sure, and my hairline will un-recede itself. LOL. IP: Logged |
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tic_toc Member |
lol,well everyone and his dog has had their outlandish theory. We have had pages and pages of it for months. Now its my turn. And it only took five words. If it proves to be bullcrap throw it on the pile with the rest. At least it was a short theory. ![]() IP: Logged |
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tic_toc Member |
heres to a green hairline for you!! ![]() IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
Posted by: Pedro2004 In reply to: None Date:9/10/2004 9:36:18 AM Post #of 94019 Pedro’s Theory well i'd have to say that this theort sounds better then most and events of the last 2 months sure seem to head that way. but as with all theories a few ?'s remain as in how do you divide a dividend up to twice the number of shares as the a/s and not be able to go to the SEC or some da** goverment org and say folks look at this!!!! i mean if you have records saying 1.6 trillion shares are owned by somebody and you a/s was 500 billion 1 month ago do you even need a judge for the lawsuit??? you think bungs gonnads (see qbid) are in bad shape. even if UC screwed up and issued 300 billion shares over the a/s and had to correct the problem after the fact you got somebodys short hairs in a vise grip. does anyone think it would be ok to just let the mm's off the hook scott free. say " here we will just give everyone shares of all these other companies to make up for the mm's greed and just tell them shame, shame. if that happens i'm going back to my aged opium theory. IP: Logged |
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RaiderJR Member |
I am still trying to figure out which of the partners to invest in. Which company is going to be the winner? IP: Logged |
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trgfunds Member |
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?
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Wallace#1 Member |
From noahltl's repost above: She indicated SGGM and CMKX were two separate companies, she is Urban's niece (and not Ron's daughter) but works solely for SGGM, and there will be PRs starting next week that will explain many, many things... including the $10M! Wonder why that person "Sugarpaw" did not ask the obvious. Such as, "I understand they are two separate companies, but who owns SGGM"? "Does the Casavant family have a controlling interest in any way or are members of that family on the Bd of Dirs?" Sure, she works solely for SGGM, but who hired her? Who got her the job there as opposed to working at CMKX? Is this SGGM deal just another case of the left hand passing $$$$s to the right hand as has been done in the past? PS: No reflection on you, noahltl. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 10, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Wallace, I dug up some real 'DD Work' for you... Go check it out. I think you can use this type of information. Toodles -Byrd- IP: Logged |
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RaiderJR Member |
from another board, these companies, including SGGM all have the same address. Notice the oil company.
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Money_Penny Member |
quote: Sorry trgfunds, I don't know the answer to any of those questions. I will wait until I get my paper statements. However, I understand from other people who have got UCAD shares in their accounts that you cannot access them online since they are restricted. IP: Logged |
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Steve020866 Member |
quote: -------------------------------------------- I have my statement in front of me from Lowtrades and it shows that I have 23 shares of UCAD. It also shows the payout of .0000155 per share of CMKX. I have 1.5 million shares of CMKX and that equals 23.65 shares of UCAD. Darn I lost 2 thirds a share, thats gonna hurt!!!! It also shows that it was moved to a type 4, LOC 1R account which is not a margin account because I have a margin account with Lowtrades and it doesn't show online. It must be a restricted type of account. However, like MoneyPenny said this is a positive note that the outstanding should be 483 Billion. We will see when we get the rest of the spinoff shares. Steve IP: Logged |
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Steve020866 Member |
quote: -------------------------------------------- Sorry, just got to this post. It shows in my statement that the date received was 8/23/04. Not bad, only 3 days after effective date. Can't answer about the available date for selling. Steve IP: Logged |
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trgfunds Member |
Ok I just pulled out my statement and it turns out I DID get my UCAD YAY! -- Since it came so quickly I wonder since Aug 31st was another record date for CIM shouldn't we have that one too? I didn't expect them this fast but I'm not complaining! ![]() IP: Logged |
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Doctoall Member |
I still say that the whole gang are all involved in the same companies and $$ goes from the Left Hand to the Right Hand and back to the Left Hand. But I could care less as long as some of the money makes it to my hands. IMO: UCAD ownership is as follows: U = Urban Casavant The true owners and controllers of UCAD ??? [This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited September 11, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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trgfunds Member |
Since we've heard that urban's neice is in charge of SGGM and when asked about it they were kinda hush hush, could it be that there is a possible merger with us and SGGM and the final resulting company is going to be the CIM shares that we will get 1 for 1? Then the share price would be an average of ours and theirs or something. I mean "Casavant International Mining" just sounds so mergerific. Any thoughts? IP: Logged |
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glassman Member |
OK now that the shares are showing... you need to hear from who IS NOT getting shares... those are the NSS........ anybody???????????????????????? IP: Logged |
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lbulbu Member |
[QUOTE] I have an ameritrade account and my monthly statement as of August 27 does not show me receiving any dividens yet. Do I need to contact ameritrade or just wait till I receive my Sept. statement any help would be appreciated. IP: Logged |
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WinsumLosesum Member |
Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet? I just emailed them. Will post their reply. [This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 11, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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will Member |
I have freetrade, owned by ameritrade, didn't show up in my account, yet. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
Sugarpaw Re: WE GOT OUR UCAD DIVIDEND IN OUR ACCOUNT!!! « Reply #17 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 2:20pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- {I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global.}
My second question was pertaining to the UCAD and CIM dividends. I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global. ALL dividends HAVE to go through 1st Global, and to date they have not received any shares from UCAD or CIM. When I asked how they could be coming up with these ratios that we are seeing, he said this info is coming from the OTCBB or DTC. He said that the actual ratios will in all likelihood be different. He said everytime someone comes up with a new ratio, his phone rings off the hook! Jeff said, don't believe what you read or hear about from these Chat Rooms. No one at this point knows what the actual ratio will be, other than the company and 1st Global! So, as soon as I think this should be a Black & White clear cut issue, we muddy the water with some brokers advancing shares. What happens when the ratio is declared and it turns out to be different, unclear how those brokerages will deal with the discrepancy. Confusion, confusion.... IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
quote: I haven't gotten any yet... IP: Logged |
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Leeman1 Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinsumLosesum: [B]Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet?
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bill1352 Member |
i find it had to believe anyone would have these shares and at the first rate. a broker might add them but since nobody knows the split yet other then the otc post which is probably very close any shares in an account will have to be adjusted thus more accounting paperwork, not something a broker would do on purpose. IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
Ameritrade told me they were aware of all dividends coming thru, but were holding pending exact distrubtions. I can't speak for some of the other brokers ( some may have jumped the gun) but Ameritrade has always been accurate with what they told me. I think this is the same thing Bill said VAN PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 11, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
I have a Fidelity account and it does not credit my account with any of the divident shares. However, last time I talked to them, they assured me that if shares are in my account, they are good. IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
VAN, VAN wrote: PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice Just keep slapping yourself and listen up!!! So much for YOUR valuable advice! If there has been any CMKX naked short selling in huge amounts, Glassman just happens to be right. IP: Logged |
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highwaychild Member |
Does anyone here have any disputes with the math someone posted on another site as to the o/s?
Is that how one gets the o/s? IP: Logged |
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will Member |
So, Melvin didn't lie, there isn't 400B, there's more than that. IP: Logged |
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Steve020866 Member |
quote: ------------------------------------------- Well, thats a hard way of doing it. The easiest way is to take the 7.5 million and divide it by the split ratio. 7500000 / .0000155 = 483870967741.935 This will give you CMKX's outstanding share count. You can't get any better numbers than that for accuracy. I don't know where all the other figures are coming from. The count of over 1 trillion outstanding shares was a bit far fetched. Someone got their numbers crossed somewhere. JMHO Steve IP: Logged |
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will Member |
Looks accrurate to me. Early on I was usung 400B as outstanding and got .00001818, I think.
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highwaychild Member |
Also someone posted from another site had an answer to the NSS issue. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted. In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme. And had an excellent answer to the NSS issue. If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted. In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme. IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Thanks Highway Child ![]() I read that post on the other cmkx board... It does make sense. However if the price is right the MM's can have all my shares -John- IP: Logged |
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will Member |
Isn't that what everyone been waiting for? The big squeeze? The squeeze of the century? Did y'all forget that? IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Van wrote: "NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice" Why would any of us take La Fem's advice!?!?! I'd sooner gargle with Bleech... -John- IP: Logged |
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