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dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 10:34 WOW!!!! Almost no trading for several minutes. IP: Logged
noahltl New Member	posted September 27, 2004 10:55 quote: Originally posted by is300: Yeah ok geee I got free money now let me tell you so it can be taken away. Dumb and Dumber heh Is, sure appreciate the dumb and dumber remarks. Now let's see who it applies to. Do you really not think that the people that put it there know who they gave it to? When they want to, they will take it away. Your best shot at making that little bit of stock worth something is to help those who are trying to help this stock. Personal bashing like you are doing will only line you up with the other bashers here who can't come up with any negative DD on this stock and continue to bash individuals. [This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:10 Noah, if you recall, is300 just recently came to this board as a new member. He came bashing. His first post was a bash. I challenge him to produce on positive post. There are several others here who post the negative side of things but are not bashers. They are realists. The distinguishing characteristic is, that they also post positive things as they see them. Sadly, guys like is300 don't seem to understand how strong the longs here are long. No amount of pure bashing will achieve their goal. I hope they are paid enough by the MMs to salve their concience when they lay their head on their pillow at night. IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:31 if they ever do give out ucad dividend according to the pr last week we will know the complete o/s as it states ucad is adding a few shares so that all cmkx shareholders can get shares the time line of this whole thing does not sit well. first the announcment of the deal CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement July 18, 2004 04:47:00 AM ET CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD) to which U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of record on August 20, 200 this gives both cmkx & ucad 1 month to get everything in place. then we find out through shareholder investigation that the a/s is raised 300 billion shares on the 18th of sept. the otc has a post saying the split is 15.5 per million which translates to a 483 billion o/s. next the otc changes the split to match the new 800 billion a/s. we wont even get into the new CIM split saying a 1.6 trillion o/s next 2 mm's disappear nite & jeff. then we get this pr the day the dividend is to be paid Rendall Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "Through the suggestion of management of CMKX and their corporate attorney, D. Roger Glenn, UCAD's management has agreed to issue additional shares for the round-up process for this distribution. UCAD has agreed to issue additional shares so all CMKX shareholders can take part in this distribution." Williams continued, "The relationship with CMKX shareholders is a welcome addition to our new family." it seems as if cmkx is letting the mm's off the hook for any naked shorts, just absorbing them at no reward for the rest of the shareholders. as there is no way to cover restricted shares by mm's they were given time to try & cover and then cmkx needed time to go through the books and find all shares, ucad adds a few shares and everything is included. ucad & cmkx had 1 month from 20 aug to 24 sept to get books in order and 2 months to figure everything out from announcment to pay date. its fair to naked shares but it kills all shares as it allows the mm's to dilute the stock about 70% if thats what the 300 billion are for. this is just theory but it also fits the very few facts we have [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).] [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:38 quote: Originally posted by bill1352: it seems as if cmkx is letting the mm's off the hook for any naked shorts, just absorbing them at no reward for the rest of the shareholders. as there is no way to cover restricted shares by mm's they were given time to try & cover and then cmkx needed time to go through the books and find all shares, ucad adds a few shares and everything is included. ucad & cmkx had 1 month from 20 aug to 24 sept to get books in order and 2 months to figure everything out from announcment to pay date. its fair to naked shares but it kills all shares as it allows the mm's to dilute the stock about 40% if thats what the 300 billion are for. this is just theory but it also fits the very few facts we have [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).] Some good points there, bill. However, it is hard for me to understand why they would reward the MMs and not the shareholders who have faithfully hung in there. IP: Logged
JBCak47 Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:47 Royal: "I see it didn't take long for this JBCAK47 clown to start up with the personal attacks. Allstocks banded you not the ones you try to belittle. Stick to the stock.Your running smack here is old." PLEASE POST ANY MESSAGES FROM THE PAST THREE DAYS OF WHEN I 'ATTACKED' SOMEONE!? Funny that the majority of the people who own stock, or say they do, have no problem about me being here except for me to watch my mouth, which I said I would... Funny that the people who DON'T own stock are the one's saying 'I ATTACKED PEOPLE' yesterday... Bashers trying to get me banned??? Wouldn't be the first time... ============================================ WORK A HOLIC Thank you... Again, notice how they are ALL working together? And notice how they people who don't own anystock are the majority of people who want me 'OUT'? Why because I question CERTAIN NAMELESS POSTERS on this thread? This thread has become a joke... There are about three to four active bashers on this thread with another two subtle bashers... VERY, VERY SAD... -John- IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:49 i agree dw...the truth is there is no way to beat the mm's. there are lawsuits but any lawyer can stretch that out yrs and cost more then the loss in pps. the lawsuit could bankrupt a company. say you have solid fact and the mm's want to settle what do you do with the naked shareholders? they just lose out? or maybe they get everything they invested back. how do you determine any profit they might have made on the stock? the SEC? they will just fine or suspend the mm's licsence for a while as a full blown scandal would seriously hurt the market and expose the corrupt DTC. the powers that be won't let that happen IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:57 quote: Originally posted by bill1352: [Bthey will just fine or suspend the mm's licsence for a while as a full blown scandal would seriously hurt the market and expose the corrupt DTC. the powers that be won't let that happen[/B] I think you hit the nail squarly on the head here bill. I have never felt that Roger was "going to teach the MMs a lesson". I'm quite sure that as long as he has been doing this kind of work, he has used them many times in legal activities that they perform. Market makers are the predominat reason that 1929 situations haven't happened again. We all need them. We just want them to be ethical. IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 11:59 Who has recent L2 data showing which MMs are at work. My fidelity vol shows a negative 2 billion plus. I wonder what that means. Is that, as some have suggested, a correction to erroneous vol posts? IP: Logged
noahltl New Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:07 dw, everyone here could be holding naked shares, even those of us who bought months ago. I wouldn't want to miss my divy, and it's obvious that UC and Roger do not want the shareholders punished, and they don't want to give the MMs a chance to tie this thing up in court. Imagine if 20 or 30 thousand shareholders suddenly discovered that they were not getting the shares. This thing would be tied up in courts forever, as no one can determine if their shares are naked or not. Some of these shares have been traded a hundred times since last year. There is no way to trace them all the way back to their fraudulent issuance. The MM's would love to get this thing into court so that they can settle up with a flat amount. If they tried to cover by buying up the naked shares, the pps would take off and go out of reach, so the courts are the best place for them to resolve it. Roger knows this, so he is taking steps to resolve this outside of the court's jurisdicton IMO. That is why we really can't object to some maneuvers on his part. Just know from JEFF's retirement last week, and Friday's PR, that he is doing something. If we could figure that out exactly, we wouldn't need him. My best guess is that he is dealing with some old friends in the SEC so that this can be resolved in the best interests of the shareholders, company, government, and the financial health of the market in general. IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:10 I fully agree Noah. IP: Logged
pappy Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:11 ETADE SHOWS 2,260,646,625 IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:16 the only problem with that noah is us...the cmkx shareholder, both real & naked. the dilution factor is huge. 6 companies have a stake in this property which dilutes the possible income then dilute cmkx's share with 800 billion more or less shares. it takes a company with bright possibilitys and crushes that to possible ok profits for shareholders IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:29 i'm wondering what happened with gemm. no word on if cmkx got the other 24% or the dividend pay date which was to be oct. 1st IP: Logged
noahltl New Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:31 quote: Originally posted by dwman: Noah, if you recall, is300 just recently came to this board as a new member. He came bashing. His first post was a bash. I challenge him to produce on positive post. There are several others here who post the negative side of things but are not bashers. They are realists. The distinguishing characteristic is, that they also post positive things as they see them. Sadly, guys like is300 don't seem to understand how strong the longs here are long. No amount of pure bashing will achieve their goal. I hope they are paid enough by the MMs to salve their concience when they lay their head on their pillow at night. Dw, we undoubtedly have paid bashers here. I'm not going to get into naming them. But we also have some other kind of negative posters here. They are people who just enjoy arguing, or if you want to give it some legitimacy, "debating". I guess I'm one of those myself, on the positive side. And there is nothing wrong with debate over a stock, as long as it remains civil and professional. IMO, the problems begin when one side or the other cannot provide DD or evidence in support of their position. Then personal opinion takes over. When a poster is questioned about his personal opinion, then personal bashing starts. It has happened over and over here. There has been a debate going on about putting in an "ignore" button, on another thread, to try and deal with the problems we have had here. Even a thread to resolve them broke down into argument and personal bashing. Some weeks back, Tamie started a positive thread that was supposed to be about DD only. That one broke down, and the bashing on that thread drove Tamie to sell out her position, at least according to her post about it. It seems to me that what we need is two threads, one on the positive side and one on the negative side of any stock that has the volatility of a CMKX or a QBID. And the mods should quickly bounce anyone who tries to come down on the other side. This would allow both sides of the story to be told without the ongoing fighting that always occurs. It's obvious that any thread where both sides are being presented, will break down into fighting and name calling. We have lost a lot of good people who used to post here, because of the fighting. We all will lose because of their departure. Most recently we have lost Debi. She is a fine Christian woman, and an informed investor, but coming here tests her faith inspired patience. So she now shares her investment acumen with others, at other boards. I stayed away some this weekend because of the negative atmosphere. I spend a lot more time now on other boards because the mods there do not tolerate any bashing of the stock. They tolerate differing positions and even negative posts that are supported by DD. But when things start to get out of hand, the offenders are shown the door. So enough of this. Once again I am wasting thread space that should be dedicated to the stock, and not to fighting about the stock and the posters. IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 12:56 i do agree to a point noah. many in here just call each other names and make stuff up. but both positive & negitive are guilty. positive ppl dismiss facts as bashing and negitive dismiss the possibilities are fake. example and i'm not trying to argue, you stated that cmkx had owned 100% of these claims minus the 15% to ucad & 5% to sggm. when prs from the past state differant. i can't find a way to go back past june but this pr states there are 5 companies involved and this is before sggm CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Converges on Saskatchewan Drill Target August 05, 2004 01:51:00 AM ET CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) has received all necessary drilling permits and Surface Exploration Permits to mobilize its drilling equipment to a new site located approximately 5 miles northwest of Kensington-DeBeers Kimberlite 122 and 6 1/2 miles northwest of Shore Gold Inc.'s Star Diamond Project in the Forte a La Corne, Saskatchewan. The drill site partnership includes Shane Resources (SEI.H-)CDNX, United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA.)CDNX, Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (KPG) CDNX, and U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. UCAD. All the partners shall have representation at the drill site at time of drilling. As with all CMKX drill sites, CEO and President Urban Casavant has ordered this drilling project to be video recorded for the CMKX website for viewing to the CMKX shareholders. where shane came in i missed but it was known that ucad, kpg, uca & cmkx had 25% each. there are things cmkx needs to keep quiet because of differant reasons but they do keep things that effect honest shareholder descions quiet. this just fuels the negitive side to yell scam & the positive to defend themselves. it has taken all the possibilities of cmkx and tarnished them to no end. add cars, credit cards, mismanagment, mm manipulation and all you have is a mess that no lawyer can really get back to the possibilities cmkx had 18 months ago IP: Logged
betting babe Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:11 is300.. i hope you get your butt kicked off this board and back to whatever the internet was before al gore invented it. truly sick, man. ~BB IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:12 is300 It may be true that Noah is in a wheel chair. I don't know. What I do know though is that it takes a pretty cold hearted person to post as you did. IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:15 ditto bettin babe & dw... is300 only a punk acts as you do [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:17 quote: Originally posted by is300: nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Hoping and praying that this thing isn't a scam and will be the one gem to turn around your useless life.. thats why you are here all day ignoring plain facts and pumping away ..... trolling every single cmkx message board posting any nonsense someone types onto here. choo choo Well now aren't you pathetic? You acuse Noah of trolling yet you certainly didn't miss his post. Doing a bit of trolling yourself is? Kinda hypocritical isn't it? IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:19 these bashers must be flamin liberals...they feel the need to protect us dumb a** shareholders from ourselves IP: Logged
Justhis1ce Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:24 IS300 is just another odious and obnoxious little P***k who would never say such a thing in real time for fear of getting a wheelchair rolled all up IN his trashy ass IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:28 quote: Originally posted by bill1352: these bashers must be flamin liberals...they feel the need to protect us dumb a shareholders from ourselves** LOL. So true bill. They probably helped Al Gore invent the internet. IP: Logged
Wallace#1 Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:28 Noahltl wrote: Personal bashing like you are doing will only line you up with the other bashers here who can't come up with any negative DD on this stock and continue to bash individuals. Also wrote: everyone here could be holding naked shares Also wrote: Just know from JEFF's retirement last week, and Friday's PR, that he is doing something. If we could figure that out exactly, we wouldn't need him. --------------------------------------------- Negative DD (aka FACTS), is about all anyone can come up with. There is almost nothing except BS �trust� and �faith� otherwise. Told you folks that a long time ago re holding naked shares UC needed him (Glenn), not the �we� you referred to. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dwman wrote: However, it is hard for me to understand why they would reward the MMs and not the shareholders who have faithfully hung in there. Don�t you get it dwman? They do not give a damn about the shareholders!!! That should be obvious by now to anyone of �faith�. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill1352 wrote: �the lawsuit could bankrupt a company� Bill, for all anyone knows, CMKX could be BK already. And, I think you are 100% right as to what the SEC may or may not do concerning punishment or fine�probably equivalent to a minor slap. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- is300 wrote: nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. -------------------------------- is300, noahltl, is very much biased when it comes to CMKX and does not admit to there being MANY facts that completely obliterate his (and WWJD�s) fanatical position on CMKX. However, I DO TAKE EXCEPTION TO YOUR ABOVE COMMENT!!!!!!!!! It was WRONG and you owe him an apology. PS: Please do not lower yourself to someone Allstocks has recently permitted back on this thread. I am out of here for now. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:29 quote: Originally posted by Justhis1ce: IS300 is just another odious and obnoxious little Pk who would never say such a thing in real time for fear of getting a wheelchair rolled all up IN his trashy ass* My vote for post of the day!!!!! LOL IP: Logged
valves Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:34 I wouldn't waste my time arguing with the likes of this is300 person, so I will respond to the others. What is always the funniest thing about these type of people is that they are the ones who probably weigh 110 wet and wouldn't have the guts to talk any trash to anyone if face to face. So BB getting his butt kicked off the site or just getting his butt kick is inevitable. I won't respond to his posts that follow and waste anymore bandwidth but know that if we met he would be silenced if that wheelchair comment was made in my vicinity. -Ken [This message has been edited by valves (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:35 Oh come on Wally! We know you are not out of here. We have grown acustomed to your being here. Truely, you are one of the more likable bashers on this board. IP: Logged
JBCak47 Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:47 IS300: "nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Hoping and praying that this thing isn't a scam and will be the one gem to turn around your useless life.. thats why you are here all day ignoring plain facts and pumping away ..... trolling every single cmkx message board posting any nonsense someone types onto here. choo choo" WIPE... WIPE... PLUNK. WIPE... WIPE... PLUNK. ------F-L-U-S-H --------- EOM. IP: Logged
GHOST Member	posted September 27, 2004 13:49 IS300: That has to be the COLDEST reply I've ever heard or read on this board. Be careful what you say and DO! It could come back on you ten fold!!! I've seen it happen time and time again! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:06 quote: Originally posted by GHOST: IS300: That has to be the COLDEST reply I've ever heard or read on this board. Be careful what you say and DO! It could come back on you ten fold!!! I've seen it happen time and time again! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! Ghost...Interesting that you gave that warning. Earlier, I started to tell is300 that when I was a kid, my mother gave me that advice more than once and that was many years ago. I hope that is300 did not really mean what he said. Some people have trouble measuring their words when their emotions are running high. JMO IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:09 Now now, noah! If I recall there was more reason then this "Some weeks back, Tamie started a positive thread that was supposed to be about DD only. That one broke down, and the bashing on that thread drove Tamie to sell out her position, at least according to her post about it.", that caused Tamie to sell. I'm too lazy to go find her post, but if you take the time to look it up, and put her whole post here, and not take her out of context, I'm sure you will find more reason(s). IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:11 there are no emotions involved with is300...just a punk with no life IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:15 Will, I think I remember her post too. If I recall correctly, cmkx was trading down amidst the bashing that was ongoing and she made an assessment that she was going to get out before it went to the bottom or something to that effect. I think she was strongly influenced by bashers and that's too bad IMO. Don IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:20 is 300, get your mouth shut punk, right now. Move on! IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:23 Nah, there was more to it than that, I think. Like I said, I'm too lazy to check. She might have been influenced by a negative, but not just a basher. The negative that influenced her might have been true, or perceived a tipping point for her, but it wasn't because people were just bashing, she interpreted it as something decisive for her. quote: Originally posted by dwman: Will, I think I remember her post too. If I recall correctly, cmkx was trading down amidst the bashing that was ongoing and she made an assessment that she was going to get out before it went to the bottom or something to that effect. I think she was strongly influenced by bashers and that's too bad IMO. Don IP: Logged
rde3 Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:33 you people suck ! IP: Logged
Binky Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:34 [QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352: I can't find a way to go back past june but this pr states there are 5 companies involved and this is before sggm -------------------------------------- Hi Bill Try this site http://www.findarticles.com Try typing in Casavant Mining or the other company names. Also good for searching peoples names in PR.s GLTU Binky IP: Logged
dwman Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:40 quote: Originally posted by rde3: you people suck ! rde3...what was that all about? We are just having a discussion during a slow thread day. IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:43 Melvin in one of his paltalk visits said the only office he knew of was in Urban's home. That's what did it for Tamie: Tamie Member posted September 01, 2004 10:12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well I hate to say it but with all this uncertainty circling this stock I do not feel secure holding any stocks in it. I am going to sell what I am holding today. As a business owner there are things you do and dont do and to me a corporate headquarters being casavants home is a definite no no. IMO. Just seems to me that we are financing his extra curricular activity at this point. If things were to change and they were to become fully reporting it would be different. but at this point they have no one to answer to. Tamie Member posted September 01, 2004 10:52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think you can buy all the cmkx you want but you cant sell it....at least I havent been able to yet [This message has been edited by Tamie (edited September 01, 2004).] [This message has been edited by will (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
Justhis1ce Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:44 dw-----save your bandwith old son, he was just another miserable little pubic hair on the public urinal that is his life that got p***ed off IP: Logged
Justhis1ce Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:45 dw-----save your bandwith old son, he was just another miserable little pubic hair on the public urinal that is his life that got p***ed off IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:48 Interesting looking back, lol. I glanced over the big "quiet period" debate, that turned out to be nothing too. The biggest proponent of that theory here never mentioned it again when that nonsense didn't happen. IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:50 So, dw, noah, it wasn't a basher, it was Melvin himself that gave Tamie the news that tipped her to sell. IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:58 thanks binky...i found it but it costs to get & since its not a question in my mind I'm not paying..lol it was from a pr dated September 26, 2003 IP: Logged
noahltl New Member	posted September 27, 2004 14:58 quote: Originally posted by will: So, dw, noah, it wasn't a basher, it was Melvin himself that gave Tamie the news that tipped her to sell. Will, I'm sure you know about the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. IP: Logged
VNGNTN1 Member	posted September 27, 2004 15:02 Nice a lot of you are backing NOAH. My bet he is enough of a man wheel chair or not to completely ignore this kind of stupidity. I'm surprised Bob Frey hasn't stepped in on this yet. And that's another thing: I must be one of the lucky ones ,but I have never received a bill for this site. I know it has gone down hill and maybe they are working on it also; I think if it was me me I would charge by the pound for BS. VAN IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted September 27, 2004 15:04 you really cant find fault in getting out, way to much shady things done by cmkx. those of us that hold either need a big score badly or have a higher risk threashhold. personally i only bet football with parley cards so that shows you both my gambling nature and brain damage as i won zero times last yr and once this yr..lol IP: Logged
will Member	posted September 27, 2004 15:05 You're assuming that, noah. Her post seemed pretty clear to me that a home office was her MAJOR, reason. quote: Originally posted by noahltl: Will, I'm sure you know about the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. IP: Logged
Wallace#1 Member	posted September 27, 2004 15:08 Will, Guess noahltl just made an inaccurate observation re CMKX, Tamie and this thread. --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- noahltl wrote: Dw, we undoubtedly have paid bashers here. I'm not going to get into naming them. --------------------------------------------- Why not, noahltl? Name just 1 and then provide the unquestionable proof. You know you cannot! That is because they, in all likelihood, do not exist on this thread. By the way, noahltl, since is300 was not big enough to send you apologies for his comment, I will. I am sorry for his extremely insensitive words. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged
noahltl New Member	posted September 27, 2004 15:12 is300. I wasn't going to waste my time responding to you, but reconsidered. That kind of hatred is not something you developed in your few days here as is300. You developed it here as rchaud98, then secman, and now is300. You really have a problem that you should seek some professional help with. I'm not saying that as a bash but as a fellow human being. Secondly, I don't measure my worth by my mobility, nor do most of the people that I have real contact with. I am not paraplegic, at least not yet. I can walk a few feet and stand for a few minutes. I can still drive my vehicle after I get to it. So my problems are not as great as many of the handicapped and disabled people that I work with as a volunteer. I really didn't feel the need to share this with the entire board, but your post has brought it front and center. I only mentioned that I spend most of my day in a wheel chair because I was questioned as to my intentions since I am online most of the day. But when I am not here, I am answering phone calls from people in real need. Or driving one of them to the doctor or for groceries etc. If not that, I may be with a government official, social worker, or a representative from a chruch or another charitable organization. So,no I don't consider myself worthless, or a cripple. I am interested in this stock, and if it does fly, most of that money will be used to help those in much worse condition than myself. Is, get some help. Seriously. [This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 27, 2004).] IP: Logged

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