posted October 05, 2004 20:17            

Everybody else goes up and CMKX goes down.
Not too sure what's going on here,just seems odd to me.

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=ucad
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=GEMM
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=cmkx

posted October 05, 2004 20:25            

As a matter of FACT, noahltl, your christian trader mate, WWJD, brought up the subject prior to my mentioning it.

In that post, she also attacked me for no reason whatsoever. I hadn't addressed her, I hadn't spoken of her and I had said nothing negative about CMKX. She said:

"I can't fathom any other reason unless he is bored and likes conflict. That is a possibility. I know some people really enjoy that. (I don't and that is why I rarely post or read this board. It brings out the worst in me and like most people that is NOT a good thing)."

Now, I ask you, noahltl, who is it that appears to be "bored and likes conflict"? That is EXACTLY what she is doing in that post!! That, too, is a FACT! It would seem that maybe "CMKX brings out the worst" in her...providing one is not in agreement with her cult-like, fanatical opinions and speculations. Then, everyone who has even the slightest opinion otherwise is a "basher", a hijacker" or some other such
negative adjective.

posted October 05, 2004 20:36            

Whenever such things bring a large quantity of customers to a hotel or motel, the people who originate the party or show get their rooms and other things (such as food and party needs) free of charge. Guess who? And, guess who is paying the chit for them to get things free?

Better yet, who owns the hotel or motel where the party is being held? Does anyone get a cash kickback from bringing in all that business? Rooms, food, service, tips and possibly gambling.

I can just hear them laughing!! Hey, guys, we're going to have a party and the shareholders are going to pay for it!!! LOL

posted October 05, 2004 21:02            

There was a mention of John Ed Dhonau. I don't know if this is the same person, but you might be interested in reading info from this site.
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:hRUiDUfRAXAJ ub159.***********/fdiligizerfrm18.showMessage%3FtopicID%3D394.topic%26index%3D19+Ed+Dhonau&hl=en

Going to watch the debate now.

Sorry, tried to pull it up but did not work.
Will try again later.

Try this: http://pub159.***********/fdiligizerfrm18.showMessage?topicID=394.topic&index=19

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 05, 2004).]

posted October 05, 2004 21:15            

Here's something else to think about re the loan to Crystalix Group International:

20-Sep-04 SIMS, JIMMY & NANCY
300,000 Planned Sale $29,2501
14-Aug-04 WOODWARD, JOHN S.
Private or Shareholder 341,131 Planned Sale $51,1691
22-Jul-04 CASHMAN, MORGAN & KAREN FAMILY TRUST
Private or Shareholder 341,131 Planned Sale $57,9921
20-Jul-04 RYAN, KEVIN T.
Chief Executive Officer 569,000 Statement of Ownership N/A
20-Jul-04 DILL, HAROLD A.
60,000 Planned Sale $9,6001
6-Jul-04 VIDEO ENTERTAINMENT
Private or Shareholder 135,900 Planned Sale $27,1801
1-Jul-04 RIGGS, RALPH
Treasurer 147,000 Planned Sale $29,0001
30-Jun-04 DHONAU, JOHN E.
331,131 Planned Sale $66,6001

The above are insider transactions of Crystalix. In particular, note Woodward and Dhonau. Interesting! I knew there had to be a connection somewhere!!!!

posted October 05, 2004 22:05            

Someone who hyper-posts on only one stock.

Someone who uses multiple identities.

Some who repeatedly attacks or belittles others on a stock's message boards.

Someone who emerges as the stock's moderator, or even the leader of the discussion group on that stock.

Someone, with a short history in their member profile, who suddenly shows up during a stock run-up, and appears to know "all about" the company.

Someone who is nearly always the first to respond to company developments.

Someone who continuously hints at upcoming news and unannounced contracts.

Someone who hypes the company during the run-up and then "changes" his/her mind and begins attacking the company, its insiders and the project.

Someone who goes out of their way to find bad news about the company and makes a "case" out of it.

posted October 05, 2004 22:12            

The below is what I was trying to give the site for re: John E Dhonau. I have edited where I have said "NOTE":
www.securities.state.oh.u...M%2FDhonau

State of Ohio
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
DIVISION OF SECURITIES
COLUMBUS, OHIO 43215

Order No. 98-195

IN THE MATTER OF: JOHN E. DHONAU; MHM COMPANY, INC.

CEASE AND DESIST ORDER

DIVISION ORDER

WHEREAS, the Ohio Division of Securities (hereinafter "the Division") is charged with the responsibility of protecting investors and finds that this order is necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors, and is consistent with the purposes of the Ohio Securities Act, Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

WHEREAS, the Division has conducted an investigation into the activities of John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc., whose last known address was 8731 Cincinnati-Columbus Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069, and as a result of said investigation, the Division finds as follows:

(1) John "Ed" Dhonau (hereinafter "Dhonau") is a natural person who conducted business in the State of Ohio.

(2) Dhonau is the president and CEO of MHM Company, Inc.

(3) MHM Company, Inc. is an Ohio corporation currently in good standing with the Ohio Secretary of State's Office.

Note:
(4) through (7) redacted...names in (8) below.

(8) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were solicited by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. to invest in a venture through MHM Company, Inc. to finance expenses involved in a divestiture/acquisition transaction involving assets of a multinational oil company.

(9) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were informed by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. that funds given for the above-referenced venture would be returned within thirty days with a return of 20 to 1, i.e. an investor would be repaid $200,000.00 for a $10,000.00 investment.

(10) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were also told by the MHM Company, Inc. salesmen that they would be issued a promissory note for any money given, to be secured by the receivables of Detox Industries, a Houston, Texas environmental clean-up firm.

(11) Witt gave $9,500.00, a credit union withdrawal in the form of a money order, on or about May 12, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(12) Ledford gave $9,500.00 on or about May 19, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(13) Harmon gave $4,750.00 on or about July 13, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $5,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(14) Cornett gave $19,000.00 on or about April 20, 1995, and $19,000.00 on or about April 23, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued two separate promissory notes in the amount of $20,000.00 each, executed by Dhonau for MHM Company, Inc.

(15) MHM Company, Inc. and Dhonau issued promissory notes to at least 30 individuals, of which promissory notes were issued to at least 23 Ohio investors from April 1995 to July 1995, according to documents given to investors as part of the sales presentation and records received by the Division.

(16) On or about June 27, 1996, Witt rolled over his $10,000.00 into four (4) corporate debentures of MHM Company Inc., at $2,500.00 each, that had a "stated rate of 12%," upon being solicited by a salesman for MHM Company, Inc.
(17) Witt was given a document entitled "Accredited Investor Subscription Agreement" to sign which was executed by Dhonau, President of MHM Company, Inc., and is dated June 27, 1996.

(18) The promissory notes described in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures described in Paragraph (16) fall within the definition of "security" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(B).

(19) The transactions described in Paragraphs (11), (12), (13), (14) and (16) fall within the definition of "sale" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(C).

(20) Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1) prohibits the sale in Ohio of securities that are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description.

(21) The promissory notes sold in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures sold in Paragraph (16) are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description, and, therefore, the promissory notes and debentures were sold in violation of Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1).

WHEREAS, based on Paragraphs (1) through (21) above, the Division finds that John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. have violated the provisions of Ohio Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1);

WHEREAS, on February 27, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served a Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-296 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-297, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-296 and P 123-964-297 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, on April 2, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served an Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-326 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-324, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-326 and P 123-964-324 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, notice of Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, was published in the Daily Court Reporter of Montgomery County, Ohio, on April 27, 1998, May 4, 1998 and May 11, 1998;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, the Division mailed to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. at their last known address evidence of such publication via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-348 on May 14, 1998;

WHEREAS, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. failed to timely request an adjudicative hearing as permitted by Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED THAT, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 1707.23, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. CEASE AND DESIST from the acts and practices as described above which constitute violations of Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code.

KLT/mm

Note: Redacted portion...redundant.

Witness my hand and the official seal of this Division at
Columbus, Ohio this 22nd day of May, A.D. 1998.

Thomas E. Geyer, Commissioner of Securities

posted October 05, 2004 23:38            

Crystalix Group International and NASCAR.COM to Debut New Products on Sept. 30, 2004
Thursday September 30, 7:48 pm ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 30, 2004--Crystalix Group International Inc. (CGI) (OTCBB: CYXG - News) has reached agreement with NASCAR.COM to launch several new exciting products after the very successful debut of the #3 Richard Childress Racing and Jeff Gordon® #24 car in major retail/consumer markets.
"The featured products presented by CGI and NASCAR.COM are scheduled to be available for sale beginning Sept. 30, 2004, and will feature custom products developed for the Jeff Gordon® #24 car, as well as the Kevin Harvick(TM) #29® car, Jimmy Johnson(TM) #48 car, #3 car owned by Richard Childress Racing and Joe Nemechek #01 car," stated John J. Lais III, CGI's chief marketing officer. "The new product launch for these top NASCAR® drivers feature very attractive price points, and we believe the NASCAR.COM fans are looking for great new products in time for the holiday '04 season," stated Dave Blakeman, CGI motorsports manager.

"NASCAR.COM is excited to welcome CGI as a new licensee to the family," stated Joe Mattes, VP of NASCAR.COM. "The CGI patented process allows NASCAR.COM to enter into a new arena in the collectibles market, and we believe our fans will love these new products of their favorite drivers and cars," stated Mattes. All products are "Officially Licensed" by NASCAR®.jgrizzo.

Through a very aggressive licensing and marketing campaign, Crystalix Group International Inc. began exposure of its exquisite, licensed 3-D facial images of NASCAR drivers and its full 3-D replica of sponsored racecars for the collectible markets. Our goal is to maximize our license agreements and deliver excitement of this new product to the NASCAR.COM fans.

About Crystalix Group International Inc.

Crystalix is the leading manufacturer, distributor and marketer of laser subsurface engraved optical-quality glass products. Its principal product is a personalized three-dimensional engraved crystal that features the facial image of one or more persons or other three-dimensional images. As of Sept. 30, 2003, Crystalix had 44 kiosks owned by its marketing partners in retail shopping malls, resorts, promenades, casinos, and theme parks where its crystals are engraved and sold. Its engraving process involves the use of a high-resolution digital camera, a laser image scanner, and a laser that is configured together by a standard desktop personal computer, using its proprietary software and a Windows operating system. The laser image scanner converts images from the digital camera, a customer's digital image, or a hard copy photograph into a three-dimensional or two-dimensional digitally formatted image that will be engraved into the center of the crystal by the laser.

This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements can be identified by lead-in "Looking Forward." These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve significant risks and uncertainties. Actual results may vary materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of the effectiveness of management's strategies and decisions, general economic and business conditions, new or modified statutory or regulatory requirements, and changing price and market conditions. No assurance can be given that these are all the factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from the forward-looking statement.

posted October 06, 2004 02:34            

can anybody explain the rise in volume and in price of ucad.
what about jiuna?
it almost doubled

is cmkx next?
maybe tommorow ?
together with an erruption of mt. st. helens
the time should be upon us!

by the way nobody in their right mind would have dumbed shares today before the dividend is payed out.

posted October 06, 2004 04:13            

quote:

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Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
This board became a little redundant

can anybody explain the rise in volume and in price of ucad.
what about jiuna?
it almost doubled

is cmkx next?
maybe tommorow ?
together with an erruption of mt. st. helens
the time should be upon us!

by the way nobody in their right mind would have dumbed shares today before the dividend is payed out.

the shares sold today by the MMs where did they come from?
Naked?
IF news come out tommorrow what would happen?
Covering?
I`m a little lost here,but i asume one day the rules of regular trading will apply also to cmkx.
at this point i have to buy into the naked short theory

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I think the rise in price with UCAD is becasue the MM's have been forced to buy these shares on the open market @ retail. That way they cover our divies. The closely watched (no doubt by Roger, Uban the SEC, DTC, to name a few.) and limited amout of UCAD shares cause a "supply vs. demand" rise in price. The same thing with Juina.

I think we will know soon, Roger Glenn did say "we will be well on our way to becoming fully reporting". My guess is by Friday we will have a much clearer picture into CMKX's immediate future. As far as your question regarding, where the MM's shares are coming from, and the volume? The real question to ask is "Where are those shares going to"? I believe Urban has been aggressively retiring shares all along, right up to the minute just before submitting the proper legal paperwork for becoming a fully reporting company. Paying for it with some the the proceeds of the recent cash infusions, and share exchanges with the JV's. Push is coming to shove, and I believe the MM's are up against the wall IMO. The rules and regulations applying to the CMKX will change! Because they will be on another Exchange.

Richest of Blessings to any and all who own this most celebrated of Pinksheet stocks.

The Spunkster.

[This message has been edited by Spunky Jay (edited October 06, 2004).]

posted October 06, 2004 05:15            

quote:

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Originally posted by Wallace#1:

The below is what I was trying to give the site for re: John E Dhonau. I have edited where I have said "NOTE":
www.securities.state.oh.u...M%2FDhonau

State of Ohio
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
DIVISION OF SECURITIES
COLUMBUS, OHIO 43215

Order No. 98-195

IN THE MATTER OF: JOHN E. DHONAU; MHM COMPANY, INC.

CEASE AND DESIST ORDER

DIVISION ORDER

WHEREAS, the Ohio Division of Securities (hereinafter "the Division") is charged with the responsibility of protecting investors and finds that this order is necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors, and is consistent with the purposes of the Ohio Securities Act, Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

WHEREAS, the Division has conducted an investigation into the activities of John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc., whose last known address was 8731 Cincinnati-Columbus Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069, and as a result of said investigation, the Division finds as follows:

(1) John "Ed" Dhonau (hereinafter "Dhonau") is a natural person who conducted business in the State of Ohio.

(2) Dhonau is the president and CEO of MHM Company, Inc.

(3) MHM Company, Inc. is an Ohio corporation currently in good standing with the Ohio Secretary of State's Office.

Note:
(4) through (7) redacted...names in (8) below.

(8) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were solicited by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. to invest in a venture through MHM Company, Inc. to finance expenses involved in a divestiture/acquisition transaction involving assets of a multinational oil company.

(9) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were informed by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. that funds given for the above-referenced venture would be returned within thirty days with a return of 20 to 1, i.e. an investor would be repaid $200,000.00 for a $10,000.00 investment.

(10) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were also told by the MHM Company, Inc. salesmen that they would be issued a promissory note for any money given, to be secured by the receivables of Detox Industries, a Houston, Texas environmental clean-up firm.

(11) Witt gave $9,500.00, a credit union withdrawal in the form of a money order, on or about May 12, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(12) Ledford gave $9,500.00 on or about May 19, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(13) Harmon gave $4,750.00 on or about July 13, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $5,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(14) Cornett gave $19,000.00 on or about April 20, 1995, and $19,000.00 on or about April 23, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued two separate promissory notes in the amount of $20,000.00 each, executed by Dhonau for MHM Company, Inc.

(15) MHM Company, Inc. and Dhonau issued promissory notes to at least 30 individuals, of which promissory notes were issued to at least 23 Ohio investors from April 1995 to July 1995, according to documents given to investors as part of the sales presentation and records received by the Division.

(16) On or about June 27, 1996, Witt rolled over his $10,000.00 into four (4) corporate debentures of MHM Company Inc., at $2,500.00 each, that had a "stated rate of 12%," upon being solicited by a salesman for MHM Company, Inc.
(17) Witt was given a document entitled "Accredited Investor Subscription Agreement" to sign which was executed by Dhonau, President of MHM Company, Inc., and is dated June 27, 1996.

(18) The promissory notes described in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures described in Paragraph (16) fall within the definition of "security" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(B).

(19) The transactions described in Paragraphs (11), (12), (13), (14) and (16) fall within the definition of "sale" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(C).

(20) Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1) prohibits the sale in Ohio of securities that are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description.

(21) The promissory notes sold in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures sold in Paragraph (16) are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description, and, therefore, the promissory notes and debentures were sold in violation of Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1).

WHEREAS, based on Paragraphs (1) through (21) above, the Division finds that John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. have violated the provisions of Ohio Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1);

WHEREAS, on February 27, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served a Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-296 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-297, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-296 and P 123-964-297 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, on April 2, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served an Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-326 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-324, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-326 and P 123-964-324 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, notice of Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, was published in the Daily Court Reporter of Montgomery County, Ohio, on April 27, 1998, May 4, 1998 and May 11, 1998;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, the Division mailed to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. at their last known address evidence of such publication via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-348 on May 14, 1998;

WHEREAS, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. failed to timely request an adjudicative hearing as permitted by Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED THAT, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 1707.23, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. CEASE AND DESIST from the acts and practices as described above which constitute violations of Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code.

KLT/mm

Note: Redacted portion...redundant.

Witness my hand and the official seal of this Division at
Columbus, Ohio this 22nd day of May, A.D. 1998.

Thomas E. Geyer, Commissioner of Securities

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posted October 06, 2004 07:46            

quote:

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Originally posted by ed19363:
All I know is I doubled my money on the UCAD shares I already held, so now I really dont care what CMKX does.....I GOT MINE!!!

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Congradulations! Glad to hear someone is making money off CMKX / UCAD.
Esteban

posted October 06, 2004 07:58            

quote:

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Originally posted by bill1352:
our brokers probably wont get the ucad shares till end of day. they should start showing up in our accounts tommorrow. if the ucad rise in the last 2 or 3 trading days is for covering some will get unrestricted shares. if everyone gets the right nunber os shares (about 9.5 per million) and all shares are restricted there was no naked short. if noboby can prove they have unrestricted shares we will of course hear how the DTC restricted those shares without ucad's knowledge. the mm's & the DTC working together to destroy a .0002 company and thus cover both their behinds.

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Thanks for the explination Bill

posted October 06, 2004 09:08            

How can CMKX trade before the bell?
On Yahoo it shows that as of 9:07 ,there is over 65,000,000 trades already.

posted October 06, 2004 09:23            

*scratching head*

posted October 06, 2004 15:00            

quote:

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Just now got my restricted shares of UCAD in my Ameritrade account.

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So what did the dividend ratio turn out to be? What is the estimated O/S?

posted October 06, 2004 15:10            

So that makes strike 2 for Dhonau. In 2 seperate states. I wonder how many other states he has done some dirty work.
Good work Wallace!
--------------------------------------------

Thanks, Tina.

I am becomming more and more convinced that John (Ed) Dhonau, is THE major stockholder in control of UCAD. Further, it appears that he may be the owner (or in control) of the two private companies Nevada Minerals and IB2000...both LV, NV companies. He and Woodward are or were both major shareholders in Crystalix Group International. Another company to keep an eye out for is Horizon Prime Corp...might be Dhonau's as well.

As of now, CMKX has had dealings with UCAD, Nevada Minerals and Crystalix...all with ties to Dhonau.

If VAN's thinking about stocks of companies dealing with CMKX is correct, Crystalix may be worth watching or buying. Don't know for sure.

Still, if this is the same John E Dhonau previously mentioned, extreme care would be a prudent approach.

posted October 06, 2004 15:18            

quote:

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Originally posted by noahltl:
Could be a good day. Got my dividend at Ameritrade. They say that they got them from DTC. This raises the question as to why they didn't get them directly from the TA. Ameritrade also says they are using the ratios from OTC BB, just as they have been. My ratio was 9.6 per million. That means they did not round up as promised by the PR. At that ratio, the OS would be 779,625,779,625. That means that with an AS of 800 billion, that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT. So looks like we are back to square one of guessing on the true OS.

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Is it possible that he did not receive the dividends and they just stayed with CMKX? So, the ratio was based upon the O/S including his shares but he simply let CMKX keep his shares. I don't recall how it was worded about him not taking the dividend.

posted October 06, 2004 15:26            

The rate was .000000962:1

If you have any questions and wish to contact us via e-mail, please log into your account and send your inquiry using the "E-mail Us" link which can be found in the navigation bar at the left side of any page within your account. Select the Reorganization & Dividend Inquiry Form.

posted October 06, 2004 15:33            

LAS VEGAS, Oct 6, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (UCAD) announced today that Langley Park Investment Trust Plc was admitted to the Full List of the London Stock Exchange and that dealings in Langley shares will commence on Oct. 7, 2004. U.S. Canadian had previously signed an agreement with Langley to engage in a transaction for the funding of the company. The agreement calls for the purchase, by Langley, of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. common shares, valued at the time of the closing at $9,005,355 USD, in exchange for shares of the investment company.

Langley has been established specifically to invest in U.S. micro cap companies with long-term growth potential.

Langley has entered into a "lock-up" agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. pursuant to which it has agreed not to trade U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. shares it will receive as a result of this transaction for a period of two years from the closing date. In full payment for the shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., Langley will issue to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. $9,005,355 USD equivalent of its shares at a price per share valued at One Pound Sterling.

posted October 06, 2004 15:47            

"that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT."
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Agreed. Very possible UC has some type of voting arrangement such as Pfd shs which could still control CMKX and always outvote the common shs.

posted October 06, 2004 16:06            

well we do now know the o/s as of aug 20th. it doesn't matter what UC got or not as to this dividend. the split says the o/s can not be less then 779.6 billion. what is not good is that 2 days before the a/s was 500 billion. so UC increased the a/s by 300 billion and in 2 days got rid of 279 billion of those shares. if you remeber aug. 18th was the day the a/s was increased. thats $111,600,000 of shares sold in 2 days at the .0004 it was then $83,700,000 if sold at .0003. now my question is why the need for funding? also since it seems all shares are restricted then there was no naked short as the shares bought yesterday on the open market are not restricted and thus if used to cover would show up in accounts as unrestricted.