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secman Member |
quote: Lanebro ignore him he's yet another pumper just like Jim Brewer who posts the only postive post from the "Hs urban mislead us" thread
But you need to read the PR's for CMKX, because you obviously read some OTHER company's PR's...!! Use the link to the PR's in Canuck's newbie section. Countless promises of drilling for more than a year before we actually drilled. The release of the O/S and share structure after the split & spinout...LAST OCTOBER...!! I could go on, but you apparently don't want to believe what you are reading in the PR's, so why would you believe me. JMO/GLTA. IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
I'll pull a jim brewer: on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Point #1 - the company stated the samples were 'diamondiferous'. Fact - they were. Who cares who PRs the results or the quality of the results. The people who paid .0011 for their shares I bet care what the actual results were.. and the company still hasn't clarified the actual results. From what I understand from people in the diamond industry the term diamondiferous is a real stretch when talking about to bits of diamond dust... on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Point #2 - A company can 'authorize' as many shares as they want while at the same time retiring 'issued and outstanding' shares. This is a fact. on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Your take on these facts as being misleading is what I'm talking about. You think when you read 'diamondiferous' that it means the samples are drenched in diamonds, when in fact it means they found some diamonds (doesn't matter what size or quantity). on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Your perception when you read that the company is retiring shares is that either the 'authorized' -OR- 'issued' shares can't increase, and the fact is that they can. JMO. Of course they can, and again they wouldn't be lying to do so.. but they would be misleading. Providing partial information is misleading, from how I see it there is no way around that. It doesn't even imply whether it is good or bad, just misleading. If a company were to retire shares(and PR this) and all the while issue 2 for every share retired but not PR the fact they are issuing it, you would not say they are misleading those reading the PR's? hmmm. Again, neither one of us know the share structure so we are both shooting from the hip here a bit, although it looks like we have a pretty good idea based on the dividend ratios. IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
ahh well I'll pull one more James brewer: misleading is: telling us Carolyn was a new discovery when in fact it had been drilled by another company in 96 and abandoned in 2000. Read the reports, Smeaton aka "Carolyn" is barren. Apparently our new anomaly showed up on scale with the star and 140/41 pipes so we have good potential with this target. We have to keep things in perspective. Shore Gold has been at Falc since 95 and are still 5-8 years from having a viable mine. The jury is still out on whether it will even be economical. IMO the overall FALC play hinges on the valuations Shore will be releasing around Christmas time. They will also need to improve their overall grade. JMO and views... Motherload my ass.. Carolyn is barren and has been for quite some time others have tried to mine that area from 95 to 2000 until everyone gave up.. Guess what CMKX tried it again and guess what they got 2 specs of dust thet cmkx will STILL not admit to. Perfect storm , naked shorts, Mt St Helens my ass. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
Ever notice how all the worms come out after a storm? IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
quote: Notice how maggots never leave the nest IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
SECMAN You are already in the little green book. VAN PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer. HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented! IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
VAN, You are an owner of CMKX as well as it's predecessor(s). You have been burned with so-called dividends, spin offs, misinformation, etc. well before now with the same people associated with CMKX. You also claimed to have been into stock trading for at least 5 years. Why are you still in such a defensive position relative to CMKX when it is being run by the same people in the same way as they have operated in the past? Shouldn't your experience with them dictate otherwise? IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
quote: Simple he's a paid Urban/Sterling lackey all the true players have left only silly bagholders are left defending this pos. White Urban is out running around in his new hopped up drag car. IP: Logged |
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skippy Member |
secman, if all the "true players" are gone why aren't you with them? Why are you wasting your time on the little fish? IP: Logged |
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Justhis1ce Member |
Why don't you serious long and strongs who insist on engaging those mindless, misguided, meanspirited churls realise that if you simply ignored every one of their specious posts, they would in all likelyhood just leave quite unnoticed???? IP: Logged |
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kevy0899 Member |
Hi all. I don't post much but was hoping this email from ETRADE would help. The part I was most curious about was the reference to the 1 for 1 shares. Is that 1 GEMM for 1 CMKX? I apologize if these numbers are old news... Just a beginner here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX. For additional information, you may contact CMKX's Investor Relations Department at 306-752-3755. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you. Sincerely, Dawn ****** IP: Logged |
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glassman Member |
that would be a bad thing for GEMM holders if correct.... IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
well unless something happened i didn't hear about the gemm dividend is 95,502,027 with a possible 127,336,036 if they use the option thats 200 million possible total...so lets get this straight when ucad is paid the o/s is 800 billion by the time cim is paid it will be 1.6 trillion and then 2 days later the o/s is 200 million all over the course of what 10 days???... seriously folks i think more attention needs to be paid to my theory about aged opium found in the woods...lol [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
WOW!!!! The best PR of the day is comprised of secman, wallace, justthisice. Something big must be very close around the corner. The "Top gun basher" are pulling out all stops. Correction...the MMs have run out of bashers and had to resort to the dregs. IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
originally posted by glassman: quote: Come on, how bad could it be? Minor dilution of 800 billion shares or so, no one would even notice. IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Lol, Dman... ![]() I thought the same thing too... Wallace, SEC, glass, lol... This is bigger than the Jackson Five comming to town I am expecting a full assault by bashers this weekend... Considering what we have now -John- IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
quote: Wow it's only the first of sept. you trying to fill your pumper quota already? Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash IP: Logged |
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blueeyedtraderboy Member |
Don't worry SEC, soon enough your MM bosses will be filling your "quota" with something... ![]() All Bash and no play makes Secman a dull girl... IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
and gemm was up a penny almost today i'm not knocking kevys post but somebody at scottrade had a bad fat thumb moment i think either that or they were in the woods too [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman: [B]Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash lol. QUOTE] Yeah, sec. He does. But it is a diamond studded leash. By the way, "REAL" is the magic word. We're real. You're not. [This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
quote: wow never knew you were into stuff like that.. you might want to check out qbid IP: Logged |
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dwman Member |
LOL. oooooh. I like you sec. ![]() IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
Hi All (just so old timers don't forget me and new comers know I exist). ---- been lurking in and out ---- holding tight to my 3.5 million shares (avg. 0.0001). Hey byrd I am here now..... ![]() IP: Logged |
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WinsumLosesum Member |
Just got this from Ameritrade: Thank you for contacting us today concerning CMKX. For CMKX, the spin off rate will be .0000155:1 for restricted shares of US Canadian Minerals Inc. The record date is 8-20-04, payable 9-24-04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8-20 in order to receive the spin off shares. The company will be spinning off shares of Casavant Int'l Mining on 10/1/04 at a rate of .0256, fractions being dropped. The record date is 8/31/04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8/31/04 in order to receive the spin off shares. Ameritrade has not received any official information regarding the GEMM shares. IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
SECMAN & WALLACE I don't believe I"m defensive. I would prefer to call it realistic. 1-I have $10k invested in pennys 2-That represents 3% of my equity portfolio 3-Because of CMKX I am aware of ECPN which I have made $10k in the last month 4-I have positions in all the Jv Partners 4a-NOTICE I have not metioned the paper dividends!!! 5-Last but not least CMKX with all it's problems provides me with these future possibilties: 1-Surrounding claims have produce large diamonds produced by the same volcanic activity of our claims. 2-We have hired legal counsel familiar with all aspects of the problems CMKX faces & has represented a number of jewlery enterprises. 3-Although I may be more closely related to the "Christian" posters in my approach, I am very much oriented to a strict discipline on my investments. Doesn't matter to me if CMKX bombs or not I still average about $7-900 a week trading within a very conservative profile. You guys come in here and blast ALL approaches to EVERYTHING, which does a diserve to those trying to learn. I suggest posting your opinion with much thought in a cyclical period most conducive to Newbie learning and cut the flame throwing. Everyone must be comfortable in thier own investing. All you lurkers and newbie jump right in here and express your opinion. VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).] [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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shadow Member |
Van, Can I answer that one? The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline, There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or Another item that was brought up on the board
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VNGNTN1 Member |
SHADOW Yes my research also, Makes to wonder how they can pull off this deal. I sure was not referring to you on the last few posts and doubt "they" have done enoygh research to answer. Another thought regarding your efforts, doubt that being 100% right can overcome legal fees and trouble ?? VAN IP: Logged |
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shadow Member |
Noah, I talked to Thomas Cook - He does not He gave me a number to a Brian Devorak Finally got ahold of Brian...
I asked for the information I am after... He told me that the company was closed I then said, that I was sorry that I thought He said no that the books were with him... I expressed that according to NRS-78 I asked to see the information as We did go through the Nevada State Regs... He was not So we went through the regulation on-line... Bottom-line is that we went through the I outlined that I didn't think he Can't say it was the most pleasant conversation We left our conversation with him asking I said I would contact the Nevada State He told me to send him the letter and I thanked him for his time.
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glassman Member |
way to go shadow....you remind of another very astute investor i once knew IP: Logged |
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RaiderJR Member |
Bashers vs pumpers
1. Prove to us UC is using our OS to fund his hobbies. I want you to prove that statement. Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. UC could be a sincere businessman trying to hit it big.
1. The Canadian government recognizes us as legit, they have issued the permits for the surveys and for the drilling.
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Upside Member |
Shadow, Can you provide a link to that claim map page?
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glassman Member |
quote: Raider? CMKX on the side of the machine and yet you refuse to accept the fact that he is using company money to fund it????? there is a big difference between LEGAL and LEGIT raider and if this is your first penny stock then you are going to learn the difference. that is why i came to this board and parked here. cuz there are a lot of rumors being passed off as DD.... this letter from the SEC...first i've heard of it. can you share that with us? PLEASE? i would like to see it.... [This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
RJR Yes that covers it. While we wait some are digging,verifying,etc. All for the greater good.((hopefully)not the same as "Faith"). VAN IP: Logged |
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secman Member |
Shadow You are the man. Keep up the good work and let me know if there is anything you need from the rest of us to help out. IP: Logged |
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shadow Member |
http://www .ir .gov .sk .ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents They have downloadable files that Also shows percentage...
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Wallace#1 Member |
VAN, I wasn't aware that CMKX was going through any "cyclical period". To me, it has been the same old thing and accomplishes nothing but diverting attention to their stated business which is mining for diamonds. As far as lurkers and newbies are concerned, I believe by reading ALL the posts, those that disagree with you are providing far more valuable information when it comes to securities trading and CMKX as opposed to "flame throwing". You see, whether you like it or not, some of us do see some possibilities in your favor but very few (for me only one). On the other hand, the are probabilities are greater that anyone currently owning CMKX shares will lose everything or almost everything they have put in as a so-called investment. That is what newbies, lurkers and anyone thinking of committing money to CMKX should be made aware of. What you have done with other investments or penny stocks has nothing at all to do with CMKX. All the facts and opinions of experienced investors should be considered, not just those with vested interests and minimal experience. It's somewhat like a hot stove. Some will listen to the caution and others will not. Still the proof is only there when you touch it...and that hurts. Therefore, the caution. IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
Thanks shadow. I downloaded this file in excel format and found some interesting things. Urban also owns a company called Saskatchewan Ltd. They have a load of claims on this list. Those could be ours but I can't imagine it's a good thing that they're not in CMKX's name. Also noticed that UCAD had no claims but Nevada Minerals had quite a few. Not drawing any conclusions here, just posting information. IP: Logged |
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shadow Member |
Upside, I have never been able to find any information If you have anything I would be interested. I am trying to determine what we really do
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glassman Member |
quote: does anybody have a copy of this letter?????? IP: Logged |
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RaiderJR Member |
First, you show me proof UC is using OS to fund his hobbies while leaving shareholders high and dry. You go first. IP: Logged |
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glassman Member |
Raider, i don't know what you want.... the case has been laid out in front of you.... Debi has spent a lot of energy arguing that this was a naked short, and even she admits she did NOT expect the 483 billion number much less the 800 Billion number. the reason i would like to see the letter is to authenticate it..... IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
RJR wrote (edited): What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors. Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake. Is it a rumor or unsubstantiated that CMKX: Has not provided financial information; Those things are not rumors. They are fact! As for Glenn, what has he done for the shareholders to date? Oh yeah, it's top secret so it cannot be mentioned. Sure!! Speaking of not releasing the information in a timely fashion and it being found out as it was, how many unsuspecting people were buying while other people who knew about the increase might have been selling...until it became common knowledge? How many of those buyers are right here following this thread? The more I think about this the more I think it is outrageous that Glenn did not insist that the increase in authorized be immediately released upon filing in Nevada. He had to have known it was then available to a limited number of people until the word seeped out. That, in my opinion, is not Wall Street savvy or indicative of any securities expert and not the least bit knowledgeable. Trust that!!! [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
Shadow, It's not much but this is pulled from an old CMKI filing:
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will Member |
WOW! IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
The question is if all of these claims were transferred to cMKI/M/X, why aren't they now showing up under their name? IP: Logged |
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highwaychild Member |
quote:
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Upside Member |
The main problem I see with the quiet period theory is that it takes place after a registration filing with the SEC. So far, no such filing has been made. IP: Logged |
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will Member |
So ?
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glassman Member |
not only that: Quiet Period The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws. this would imply that a NEW company is being formed.....and a new IPO is being made
what issuer did they hire? [This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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will Member |
So ? quote: IP: Logged |
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