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frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
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Scottrade is acting up today. I can't get any new symbols on my ticker.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
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If I were convinced we owned the bonds none of this would matter. Liquidation or Nasdq we would come out all right, with a new CEO. Rufus did mention we need a suit and tie CEO and he is right about that.
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Good Morning board. Just FYI I called E Trade about incorrect account balances. Finally got through to "Technical Support", and they told me that everything was fine with the stock, (CSHD) but they were having trouble with some of their servers. Took down information about my server number, and promised to forward it to the right department.
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quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
TM ~ at one point durring my bond DD I thought I had found a list of names that would make up the Caracas Group. I still maintain that they are somehow tied to The Andean Development Corporation (CAF) at www.caf.com.
As you know Caracas is the most oil rich region of Venezeula, and the largest portion of the money in that region was created by an oil company PDVSA which was absorbed into the government by Hugo Chavez. This is the same oil conglomerate that removed him from prower briefly, and is still holding most of the coin in the country even though it officially no longer exists. By the way both signatures on the $500M bond were from BCV employees that have ties to PDVSA, and Torres the 2nd Vice President of BCV has an email address to CAF.
It is a big puzzle, but I originally ran across CAF when looking at who owns the rights to carbon credits and log harvesting in the Amazon. FWIW there is way too many "ifs" and spanish/portugese documents in all of this to be anything but speculation rather than fact at this point. I suggest you do some digging yourself. Oh well FWIW IMO Posts: 2717 | From: Eville,IN,USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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OK chart I know what you mean, thanks for looking out for us.
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quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday
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I can't say I like JP1's post about thinking that washington DC next month was going to be our chance at getting in front of congressional committee or whatever the exact verbage was-
Has anyone else heard anything like that? Of course the next line was "perhaps it will be handled by then" so who knows what the heck this plan is shaping up to be.
Who is going to be sitting listening to a penny stock company in washington DC on a Sunday before christmas? Besides a bunch of freezing cold shareholders?
Is there something scheduled- some sort of hearing on SUNDAY the 17th? Is it a protest or what?
I still hold- and wait. Just trying to figure out what the plan really is!
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday
well aren't you just mr. protector! lol j/k Posts: 1453 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
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I can have my wife review the spanish/portugese documents if you like.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
TM ~ at one point durring my bond DD I thought I had found a list of names that would make up the Caracas Group. I still maintain that they are somehow tied to The Andean Development Corporation (CAF) at www.caf.com.
As you know Caracas is the most oil rich region of Venezeula, and the largest portion of the money in that region was created by an oil company PDVSA which was absorbed into the government by Hugo Chavez. This is the same oil conglomerate that removed him from prower briefly, and is still holding most of the coin in the country even though it officially no longer exists. By the way both signatures on the $500M bond were from BCV employees that have ties to PDVSA, and Torres the 2nd Vice President of BCV has an email address to CAF.
It is a big puzzle, but I originally ran across CAF when looking at who owns the rights to carbon credits and log harvesting in the Amazon. FWIW there is way too many "ifs" and spanish/portugese documents in all of this to be anything but speculation rather than fact at this point. I suggest you do some digging yourself. Oh well FWIW IMO
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quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I can't say I like JP1's post about thinking that washington DC next month was going to be our chance at getting in front of congressional committee or whatever the exact verbage was-
Has anyone else heard anything like that? Of course the next line was "perhaps it will be handled by then" so who knows what the heck this plan is shaping up to be.
Who is going to be sitting listening to a penny stock company in washington DC on a Sunday before christmas? Besides a bunch of freezing cold shareholders?
Is there something scheduled- some sort of hearing on SUNDAY the 17th? Is it a protest or what?
I still hold- and wait. Just trying to figure out what the plan really is!
comgress wont be in session, we will be talking to ourselves!
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Chevy, I have enjoyed your posts, because they have been informative. I read them a lot at ihub. I think the bonds are good but I can't totally prove it. If they are'nt Rufus is the biggest nut of the century. I agree that things were and could be moving a long much smoother had not the SEC came along with their uneducated assumptions as to the validity of the bonds. It is a relief to hear that Rufus is taking steps now to defend this company through more experienced channels. Possibly if he had'nt consulted an lawyer the SEC would have already owned our stock.
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Good Morning board. Just FYI I called E Trade about incorrect account balances. Finally got through to "Technical Support", and they told me that everything was fine with the stock, (CSHD) but they were having trouble with some of their servers. Took down information about my server number, and promised to forward it to the right department.
Thanks Gull. You are the nicest guy on this board...
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I disagree. Call me naive but the DD I have done and read still leads me to believe the bond ownership is real. My question is why what was the purpose of the bond ownership. Was it really for business purposes or perhaps another purpose? If it was for business purposes and Rufus is now on a personal crusade, is it possible he would be in default of that contract.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
You are right... I doubt it was a moron at all that allowed him to sign the contracts. Have you seen the contracts? I know I haven't. Contracts that layout Conversion Solutions usage rights, and terms. I bet they got a great deal. 50% profits is pretty excessive, I wonder what else may be included. A country with a shady past willing to deal with an American with political ties and a Southern drawl. Hmmmm... I wonder if it is because they are not allowed to do business here, but know that this is where the money is? You really should look at the global politics behind our relationship with Venezuela.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
What moron you ask. Chavez and his cronies. Don't get bigger morons than that.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
What moron you ask. Chavez and his cronies. Don't get bigger morons than that.
That’s about as deep as a Tiger Wood’s divot off the tee.
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quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
now this is a new one. lol "now your part of the problem" hahaha. ""if you don't like it sell", "did you do your DD". haha list is funny.
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If there is any chance that CSHD will merge with anybody they will have to be convinced that the bonds are real. Other wise what would CSHD have to bring to the table. Obvious no brainer. It's boring doing this waiting. But i'm glad to hear that something is suppsed to be getting done.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: If there is any chance that CSHD will merge with anybody they will have to be convinced that the bonds are real. Other wise what would CSHD have to bring to the table. Obvious no brainer. It's boring doing this waiting. But i'm glad to hear that something is suppsed to be getting done.
if the bonds are monetized, and he funds our jv's, i believe all is good, but why is he not hypothicating them ??, easy solution, and for all we know he might be doing just that, but if we wait until december 17 to march on the whitehouse lawn, we can pick these share up off the ground... he needs to quit playing games.. lol
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