courtesy of 10of13 from the beginning of the last thread...
quote: BEFORE YOU GO AND POST A "NEGATIVE FROM A PAST ARTICLE"? Please look at the date of the article and search the threads for the date I am sure that the article has been discussed at length during that time frame...
Posted by Crab For those reading for the fist time these are the links to all prior FHAL/CSHD threads. The oldest link is first and they continue in that order, the first of which dates back to June 14, 2006.
If I missed one or there are older threads, please feel free to add to the list.
Many believe that the NS is a big portion of this play! The CEO Rufus Harris feels VERY strongly on this factor! Take the time to look at this! http://www.businessjive.com/nss/darkside.html
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE MANY NEGATIVE NAY SAYERS ON THIS STOCK, SO MANY THAT THE SEC HAS HALTED TRADING!
NOBO list also at that site. All PR's and news filings of the company can be found here. Also of importance is the shareholder list on the bottom of the list to the right side. If your name is not listed here (first name first) and you hold shares of CSHD... please contact Mitch at the links on that page.
All of the SEC filings can be found on the Edgar system. The search should be conducted under "Furia", as that is the original company acquired in the reverse merger. Please familiarize yourself with these documents. They are essential to your understanding of the company.
CSHD awaits a ruling from the Judge and after the ruling according to the rule 15c2-11 an MM must be willing to trade for us by filing the needed forms.
Hope after a suspension? [Wink] Originally posted by madmoney: CESV just got off suspension http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2006/34-54503a-o.pdf lost only a little, still in play --------- came off suspension on the 9th, it is now the 24th my L2 screen shows no MM`s issuing quotes on it! how is it still in play?
OK OFF TOPIC!! Sorry but this sounds just like Michael Alexander so I thought it fit.
Now the radio hosts set it up wrong. A fellow was leaving a message on a friends answering machine and an accident happens in front of him.
Posted by CRab on :
That is DAMN funny...
Posted by frank021474 on :
lol surfer!
Posted by portman on :
ok, new thread....Looks nice...clean new paint and all.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: ok, new thread....Looks nice...clean new paint and all.
Except for my clutter.
Geez right on the front page. But you know life is too short not to laugh.
Now for some reason I have good feelings about the next few days.
Posted by Jenna on :
This is from HSM...I thought it was interesting...
Originally Posted by dplin2001
It shows the 500 mil bond has been expanded to 753 mil! So CSHD could own 500 mil of it and Fidelity could own a small part of it. Ask yourself where would you do DD bloomberg or an international bank that trades bonds???? I choose the bank
Nice Jenna thats our bond. same cusip.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: This is from HSM...I thought it was interesting...
Originally Posted by dplin2001
It shows the 500 mil bond has been expanded to 753 mil! So CSHD could own 500 mil of it and Fidelity could own a small part of it. Ask yourself where would you do DD bloomberg or an international bank that trades bonds???? I choose the bank
Yes, those little bond prospecti have little interesting nuggets...like how big a bond issuabnce can become...Sure wish I could find one.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Nice Jenna thats our bond. same cusip.
........ and look at the coupon # too ....
although I don't understand what these numbers mean but they are the same...
Posted by Jenna on :
How sad Simon is talking about CSHD chart before the SEC crap happened & how good & strong the chart was......
He just said, "Will we ever hear from Rufus Paul Harris ever again?" "I don't think so....& I don't think we will ever hear from Mike Alexander either?" "Will we see the 10Q on time?...HHHMMM I don't know..." "If Michael Alexander comes out with the 10Q on time & ther's more bonds on the new filing....that would be somethin....(laughing)...they told the SEC they wouldn't put out anything false..." "However if there is no filing on the 15th maybe it's because they signed that priliminary injunction....Time will Tell..." "Maybe tomorrow night maybe Anthony or (someone), or Tut can call & tell us if they still feel strong."
Posted by dog on :
BB pulled that Frankfurt site with 700 million bond in August. Made sense that it was increased in value in the portfolio..... not sure why Bloomberg would not have this knowledge... but a bank in Germany shows it.
Posted by portman on :
If I were MA I would put nothing out at all...unless my lawyers OK'ed it.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
This will be one of the most scrutinized filings the SEC has seen all year. I get a much better feeling with RPH and MA lying low, not posting messages, or getting on SPR.
It finally appears they have retained smart legal counsel.
quote:Originally posted by portman: If I were MA I would put nothing out at all...unless my lawyers OK'ed it.
Posted by a surfer on :
I just e-mailed the lead broker to see if they could shed some light on the bond.
Its a shot in the dark but who knows.
Posted by cassity on :
Hey Port, I heard you were causing trouble over on HSM today! LOL Posted by 6digits on :
Here we is.
Posted by a surfer on :
I think I will E-mail it to Alana Black.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Hey Port, I heard you were causing trouble over on HSM today! LOL
Yea Portman you telling the truth again???
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Please explain it to her with pictures - they seem to get confused quite easily.
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: I think I will E-mail it to Alana Black.
Posted by portman on :
Yes, I was Banned on HSM. Interesting politics over there.
Notice I used "was". Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Please explain it to her with pictures - they seem to get confused quite easily.
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: I think I will E-mail it to Alana Black.
They went hunting for RPH-
Sorry just wanted to get some humor in before I get some ZZZzzzz
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes, I was Banned on HSM. Interesting politics over there.
Notice I used "was".
I always knew you were trouble! Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes, I was Banned on HSM. Interesting politics over there.
Notice I used "was".
Oh, so they just put you in time-out! HA....that crap doesn't work, just ask my 2 yr old daughter!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Wednesday coming!
Friend or foe ~
6x sure would be nice GLTA
Posted by frank021474 on :
Hey Chart! I was trying to ZZzzz but can't sleep. So here I am again lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
Port...empty that darn mailbox! Please sir...
Posted by unclerudy on :
So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
We have to start a new thread every time we exceed 100+ pages in a thread. With CSHD we start a new thread about every 2 weeks or so Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Hey Chart! I was trying to ZZzzz but can't sleep. So here I am again lol
I'll second that... Sharpening the skills! Posted by RichBy26 on :
have a great night, see everyone tomorrow...
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
I pretty much agree with you, besides predicting PRs or various things of that nature, he has never imo provided any good dd or concrete evidence of the "power" of the company, as he likes to call it.
Posted by Jenna on :
Good Night my CSHD Family..... May you have.........
************************************************* Champagne Wishes & Cavair Dreams!!!! *************************************************
Posted by kevinbailey on :
I find it interesting that one of the CSHD "family" got some of my posts in the previous thread deleted. Guess I wasn't cheerful enough about the stock.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Posted by 3403 on :
Let's hope we hear something today. At least I can tell they are working on their web-site, so someone is doing something.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Port...empty that darn mailbox! Please sir...
All clear
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Tex he has been on the radio w/ simon before. He is probably in his mid to late 50's and is canadian. If this play works out to be true tut will seem like a genious. If it doesn't then he sure will be glad he didn't give out his identity.
Remeber from the BBQ, someone mentioned that they have known him for 20+ years and said he is a great guy.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
nah he says he already has 2 grown daughters. From the rumour mill he is working behind the scenes to help. Unclerudy just needs time to come to terms with his being an insignificant piece in the machine is all.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
nah he says he already has 2 grown daughters. From the rumour mill he is working behind the scenes to help. Unclerudy just needs time to come to terms with his being an insignificant piece in the machine is all.
Is he the one that keeps answering our e-mails to cvsu. LOL
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes, I was Banned on HSM. Interesting politics over there.
Notice I used "was".
Oh, so they just put you in time-out! HA....that crap doesn't work, just ask my 2 yr old daughter!
I was released early Posted by frank021474 on :
If we are all willing to hold this stock strong listening to RPH and ignoring some serious forces around the stock I think I will listen to his (RPH) one bit of advice-
"Listen closely to Tut". I don't care that I don't know his name or #, I don't base my decisions on the things that he posts. The only thing I do is listen to his posts. Doesn't mean we are tut followers, just means he posts and we read it.
No reason to get into it and make it personal with the guy. He has more experience than I do in this market probably so do I lose position listening?
Not really- I even listen to what people are saying that are bashing. It allows me to see it from both sides of the fence (Usually can find facts to verify the bashing is indeed bashing).
Posted by frank021474 on :
Let me rephrase:
I don't mean we are holding our cshd shares based on the words of one person (RPH). We do however listen to him and it holds a lot of weight.
And Good morning Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Wednesday coming!
Friend or foe ~
6x sure would be nice GLTA
Could be foe...are we prepared for that course of action should it arrive?
Posted by frank021474 on :
I have been holding this long throughout- I don't plan on selling until this thing either hits gold paydirt
or the train derails.....
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
nah he says he already has 2 grown daughters. From the rumour mill he is working behind the scenes to help. Unclerudy just needs time to come to terms with his being an insignificant piece in the machine is all.
Is he the one that keeps answering our e-mails to cvsu. LOL
actually the email responder gave his first name out. It doesnt take a huge leap to guess the last name. Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
nah he says he already has 2 grown daughters. From the rumour mill he is working behind the scenes to help. Unclerudy just needs time to come to terms with his being an insignificant piece in the machine is all.
Sceptor,
I just get upset when someone tells me that they know it is all going to work out, but I am too stupid to know it will work. Very condescending, and I think that I should be the one to judge my own abilities to understand something. This board is filled with a lot of very smart people, including doctors, lawyers, engineers, and many others. Hell, we even have a fashion model who breaks the sterotype of other models. All of these people have given great DD, coming from almost nothing. SO I get mad when someone says that it is too complicated. JUst throw us some bits then, and we can figure it out ourselves. Then tell us if we are right or wrong, and if we are wrong, then tell us how. I just hate people who are full of themselves, and talk down to others.
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
As we await on the next filing, is the 8K for 6-2005 vs June 2006 still a valid document as is? I'm sure many have bought in to this on this point alone with all the positives with assets and net income. Again, is this an issue for accuracy?
Posted by frank021474 on :
unclerudy-
Perhaps an approach like you just posted above would be better at explaining your thoughts than the one used below?
"F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!! "
I doubt he is full of himself and I doubt he is intentionally talking down. He says that he cannot explain his DD due to the volumes it would take to write it out.
In due time you will get your view behind the curtain. Until then just ignore his posts and don't take them personal.
Here is what was posted on HSM I am sure you are referring to:
tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is just analytical of other indirectly related events, political and financial which corroborates the validity of what your due diligence has already shown you but would be difficult for most to grasp without a full understanding of the whys and hows and the whos of bond trading and the origins and the purposes. To go into depth would require writing volumes which in such a short space of time would be way over everyones heads. No offense intended but it would take a study of much more than just the company isolated from external events and influences that also play an important role in its success.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: unclerudy-
Perhaps an approach like you just posted above would be better at explaining your thoughts than the one used below?
"F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!! "
I doubt he is full of himself and I doubt he is intentionally talking down. He says that he cannot explain his DD due to the volumes it would take to write it out.
In due time you will get your view behind the curtain. Until then just ignore his posts and don't take them personal.
Here is what was posted on HSM I am sure you are referring to:
tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is just analytical of other indirectly related events, political and financial which corroborates the validity of what your due diligence has already shown you but would be difficult for most to grasp without a full understanding of the whys and hows and the whos of bond trading and the origins and the purposes. To go into depth would require writing volumes which in such a short space of time would be way over everyones heads. No offense intended but it would take a study of much more than just the company isolated from external events and influences that also play an important role in its success.
I agree. I don't take it is condescending, hopefully unclerudy will see it for what it was too.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by brooklyn55: As we await on the next filing, is the 8K for 6-2005 vs June 2006 still a valid document as is? I'm sure many have bought in to this on this point alone with all the positives with assets and net income. Again, is this an issue for accuracy?
call bill hicks. He doesnt seem to have a problem commenting on the case, so maybe he will tell you.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Good post from HSM:
Most webs sites only have the original issue amount: 500 million. The principal amount was increased to 753 million three years ago.
Here's the story of these bonds according to an SEC filing for the government of Venezuela and I quote: U.S.$500 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes was issued initially for cash in August 1998. In connection with the BANDES Exchange, 2003 the Republic issued an additional U.S.$252.8 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes, which form a single series with the U.S.$500 of these notes issued in 1998."
To verify this for yourself: 1. go to www.secinfo.com 2. Enter in the search box the Accession Number: 950133-4-398 3. To quickly find page 116, search in your browser for 252.8
You will see this footnote refers to the 13 5/8 bonds of Aug 2018 the bonds in question
Posted by 66inxs on :
good morning everyone. hope the 10Q comes out tonight or tomorrow with good news but i won't be surprised either way. i want my 6x too. nothing that happens with this stock will surprise me anymore.
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Wednesday coming!
Friend or foe ~
6x sure would be nice GLTA
Could be foe...are we prepared for that course of action should it arrive?
Portman...This doesn't sound good, coming from you. Either way, I'm all in and staying that way.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Well, like I said if they screw up Wednesday's filing, that's going to tell me everything I need to know.
IMO, then it's time to walk away, if by magic 6x my shares appear in my account someday, -great!
Hoping for the best!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well in my opinion, they had better not "screw around" and try and file last minute. They can not afford to be late because of a missing paragraph or signature this time. Early is the best way to see a filing, but if it is impossible, then "on time" works. IMO
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
AAAAAAAA - My eyes, My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by CRab on :
Just sent this in to investorrelations...I'll post whatever I get back...
Yeah, I know I'm impatient...I could just wait till tommorrow but I was bored, lol...
I'm just asking this because "some" are still questioning this...I'm assuming they are still going to file by tommorrow, but whether or not they "must" file has been questioned...
That...and I just wanted to see if I could dance around the question and get something of consequence out of them, lol...
quote:As I'm sure you've recieved hundreds of emails asking for some sort of info pertaining to the upcoming filing that is due, my question is not whether you will be complying, I'll assume you are, but whether or not the 10Q is still due on Nov. 15.
To clarify I am just wondering if, since we are no longer trading on the OTC:BB, the 10Q is still due on Nov.15?
Thanks, Quoty McShareholder
Posted by frank021474 on :
Tax- Do they have any sort of 5 day grace period with this 10q filing?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
I thought they said the dang 10Q was ready weeks ago? Good grief!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
This is great for reference. WOW, lots of info there but I just wish you could see something that spells out where Conversion Solutions owns these.
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Good post from HSM:
Most webs sites only have the original issue amount: 500 million. The principal amount was increased to 753 million three years ago.
Here's the story of these bonds according to an SEC filing for the government of Venezuela and I quote: U.S.$500 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes was issued initially for cash in August 1998. In connection with the BANDES Exchange, 2003 the Republic issued an additional U.S.$252.8 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes, which form a single series with the U.S.$500 of these notes issued in 1998."
To verify this for yourself: 1. go to www.secinfo.com 2. Enter in the search box the Accession Number: 950133-4-398 3. To quickly find page 116, search in your browser for 252.8
You will see this footnote refers to the 13 5/8 bonds of Aug 2018 the bonds in question
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Tax- Do they have any sort of 5 day grace period with this 10q filing?
They can file a NT10q for a 5 day extension.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thanks Igor
Posted by Igor R on :
Anyone think we might have a mini run today for people getting in in anticipation of a 10q?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I thought they said the dang 10Q was ready weeks ago? Good grief!!!!!!!!!
"They did..."
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I thought they said the dang 10Q was ready weeks ago? Good grief!!!!!!!!!
"They did..."
So - "Where's the Beef?" Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I thought they said the dang 10Q was ready weeks ago? Good grief!!!!!!!!!
"They did..."
So - "Where's the Beef?"
"Beef or Bull?"
THAT is the question!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I thought they said the dang 10Q was ready weeks ago? Good grief!!!!!!!!!
And they said the same thing about the 10K and it was filed late and resulted in an E being added to the stock . Expect the worst with this company and if they come through great , if not atleast you are not disappointed .
Posted by 6digits on :
Rufus said we need to get rid of the penny stock mentality. I wonder if the rest of the company is up to speed on that yet.
Does someone know if most penny stocks that file, file there 10 Q at the last minute. To me it all always seems like last minute stuff.?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Procrastinators!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
This volume is like watching paint dry. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Good post from HSM:
Most webs sites only have the original issue amount: 500 million. The principal amount was increased to 753 million three years ago.
Here's the story of these bonds according to an SEC filing for the government of Venezuela and I quote: U.S.$500 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes was issued initially for cash in August 1998. In connection with the BANDES Exchange, 2003 the Republic issued an additional U.S.$252.8 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes, which form a single series with the U.S.$500 of these notes issued in 1998."
To verify this for yourself: 1. go to www.secinfo.com 2. Enter in the search box the Accession Number: 950133-4-398 3. To quickly find page 116, search in your browser for 252.8
You will see this footnote refers to the 13 5/8 bonds of Aug 2018 the bonds in question
Yes fhalyess ~ that doc on SEC info is a good reference as to the validity of the bond. I also like this one. A pulbic Offering Circular for another bond, which mentions our bond on both page 143 and 150. I have been using this on as my main source for about a week now.
it is full of information. Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Procrastinators!
More like liars .......
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This volume is like watching paint dry.
We're starving the BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Procrastinators!
More like liars .......
I wouldn't call them liars just yet....
Posted by frank021474 on :
Everytime a document filing is due out comes:
thesource: Bottom line is who knows why companies do what they do. The 10q could of been changed after the recent events with the SEC. Perhaps they cashed in on some bonds and wanted to reflect that somehow in the 10q? Who knows- not us.
The 10q that was "ready" before the SEC came into play was probably overhauled.
You and I both do not run these companies so for us to answer as to what the best path is would be like me sitting on the operating room table telling the doc where I think he should cut.
Last but not least- lets WAIT till its late before we start calling people liars and falling apart.
Some people say lets not trade with emotions but at the drop of a dime we act like CSHD told us our kids and dogs are ugly.
Posted by thesource on :
How about story tellers then ?
Posted by 3403 on :
hopefully not liars, just stupid
Posted by 6digits on :
They wanted to be a public reporting company, now they'll have to comform to it one way or the other. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oouch! I just tripped over something big. I just found the name and address of the embassador who can verify the bonds. Plots gets thicker, and the SEC IMO seemingly frivalous lawsuit gets deeper.
I know you guys won't believe me so I will post the link since it is a public source... but I will stress that you do not want to hammer this guy. I would think he is getting enough noteriaty. I am just satisfied that I found his name. Someone just send his name to Alana and say hey depo this guy. HA HA!!
Venezuela has filed a registration statement relating to the Debt Securities with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC. This prospectus is part of that registration statement. Additional information concerning the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and the Debt Securities can be found in the registration statement, as well as any post-effective amendment thereto, including their respective exhibits. You may read and copy the registration statement and any post-effective amendment at the SEC’s Public Reference Room at 450 Fifth Street, N.W., Room 1024, Washington, D.C. 20549. You may also request copies of these documents, upon payment of a duplicating fee, by writing to the Public Reference Section of the SEC. Please call the SEC at 1-800-SEC-0330 for further information on the operation of the SEC’s Public Reference Rooms. The aforementioned registration statement is, and the Republic’s future filings with the SEC will be, available through the SEC’s Internet site at http://www.sec.gov. Posted by CRab on :
haha...and looky, looky...they can issue up to $4.8billion according to the prospectus...imagine that...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You would think... but then again I expected them to know what the "E" meant on the end of the security. According to Rufus on SPR they did not have a clue the day CSHD recieved the "E".
They are the SEC... IMO this is very sad.
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't feel much security having the SEC watching out for me. There protection has costed me $80k share value just in 2 weeks. Way too expensive and unreliable. Posted by frank021474 on :
You coulda hired Mr T for less Posted by 6digits on :
I pity the fool.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Time for lunch and errands- check back later.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: You coulda hired Mr T for less
I pity de fool that bashes cshd. GRRRR!
Posted by thesource on :
I agree the SEC has done a terrible job with this case so far . IMO , this thing should have been suspended until a ruling was in place . The share holders are not being protected at all in this current situation .
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I agree the SEC has done a terrible job with this case so far as well . IMO , this thing should have been suspended until a ruling was in place . The share holders are not being protected at all in this current situation .
That would have been nice, except there is no rule they could use to keep it suspended, especially at the request of CSHD. What REALLY should have happened is the SEC got their facts straight before ever suspending and filing suit...
Posted by 6digits on :
Let's alert Mr T to the folly of the SEC. Go on the air and bust into their office and have him start lecturing them on doing a better job, before they cause harm to innocent shareholders. He can throw all the stuff off their desk onto the floor while he's talking.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
ahhhh, Mr. T & Debbie Downer...what a great looking couple.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I agree the SEC has done a terrible job with this case so far as well . IMO , this thing should have been suspended until a ruling was in place . The share holders are not being protected at all in this current situation .
That would have been nice, except there is no rule they could use to keep it suspended, especially at the request of CSHD. What REALLY should have happened is the SEC got their facts straight before ever suspending and filing suit...
I agree and also think that some new laws should be enacted for situations like this that would allow a longer suspension to take place or some alternative action to prevent a large up swing or down swing during an investigation .
Posted by 6digits on :
Source looks like Mr. T is ready for dinner. Plate and spoon at the ready.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I agree the SEC has done a terrible job with this case so far as well . IMO , this thing should have been suspended until a ruling was in place . The share holders are not being protected at all in this current situation .
That would have been nice, except there is no rule they could use to keep it suspended, especially at the request of CSHD. What REALLY should have happened is the SEC got their facts straight before ever suspending and filing suit...
I agree and also think that some new laws should be enacted for situations like this that would allow a longer suspension to take place or some alternative action to prevent a large up swing or down swing during an investigation .
Hopefully all of these letters we have been sending to elected officials will help with that...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Source looks like Mr. T is ready for dinner. Plate and spoon at the ready.
lmao
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good morning board! Nice threads! I was in Tucson all weekend, sick Monday and feelin' great today ... giving some strong consideration to picking up some more shares tomorrow if all looks good.
IMO, the play is far worth more than .37 pps as it shows now. As tax has said (IHO), a buy now and a subsequent return to 2.00 pps will give about 5+ times the money. The risk, as I see it, is minimal, but still present ... that's what makes these plays a blast ... go with a little risk on strong fundamentals ... hug those bonds! The biggest risk now is probably the 10k and 10Q ... I hardly think they will screw that up! JMO
To those who get so uptight about TUT, don't take things so personally! It's only opinion from someone who is apparently somewhat behind the scenes, seems well versed in stock trading "theory", seems to know some of the key players, and is part of a group who has apparentlty heavily dd'd CSHD ... why would we want to hear from him? (insert sarcasm)
IMO, I would much rather hear from TUT than some of these bashers who know little about CSHD dd and who aren't in any way in the "know". One thing we have to remember about TUT is that his primary message target is HSM ... enough said.
I would think it is foolish to turn away any info from our eyes ... even with the bashers, we can see what usually baseless words they bring and usually with alot of whine but, we get to see what they bring.
Repo is probably our resident basher of choice however, he is far from having done exhaustive dd on this stock (even by his own admission) and is, in my eyes, someone to look to for humor ... as to my experience with him on other stocks was FGFC, where he was basically orchestrating a float control which didn't work out significantly as FGFC sits at 0.005 today. Good try ... I made out well by exiting in the 20 some cent range ... hope Repo made out well too.
I and many others I have come to know would not wish poor results on anyone! To me, someone posting without knowledge of the dd, equates to humor. My 2 cents for now ... GLTA.
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya cool, it would be good for the filings to be on time, seems like the least they can do. There should'nt be any reason for understaffing or whatever to get the job done IMO and it would support Rufus lecture on not having a penny stock mentality that he refers to.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Off the subject of CSHD, I have a question. A few weeks ago, someone of the board posted the ticker for another stock. The poster was somewhat a basher and was told to get lost and promote his/her pump & dump someplace else. I have also seen other posters mention other stocks and nobody goes after that poster, so I am assuming it was because the other was a basher of sorts.
To my point, I did some research of the firm that poster mentioned and it looks pretty good, but I didn't want to violate and board rules on rementioning it. Any direction?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Anyone have any SPECULATION or fact as to why we still don't have market makers? I know they need to re-apply but what is taking soooo long?
Posted by Jenna on :
You can mention other stocks - watch - hey source how's USSE doing today?
I think they just don't want poeple to act like their trying to "sell" it to you or get you to buy it......
Posted by Jenna on :
I have a question for everyone & I'm serious- if we own shares of CSHD - doesn't our broker have to find a MM to qoute it? Why doesn't everyone who has Scottrade call & ask why there's no MM?
I don't get it?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
PDF version of the above link for all who want a copy.
(PDF page 41)Page S-41 has name the name of the ambassedor. (PDF page 157)Page 116 has reference to our 13.625% bond. (PDF page 175)Page 134 has about every name and address needed to confirm existance and ownship of a Bond loaded in Euroclear from the Republic of Venezeula.
By the way this registration statement is to allow public trading of $1.5B US dollars in Venezeulan Bonds. I wonder if Frank Cristiano could be mistaken in his declaration? The CUSIP Nos. are pretty similar.
CUSIP Nos. 922646AT1 and 92299NAJ5 * 13.625% Coupon
CUSIP Nos. 922646BH6 and 922646BK9 * 10.75% Coupon
TB
Posted by 3403 on :
Unfortunately we are unable to speak on any of the questions that you have asked. Hopefully you can understand that with the investigation going on we are limited as to what we can say. You faith and support are appreciated. When we have the ability we will let everyone know via a PR as to the status. Thanks
This message was not written by Mike Alexander. I was asked to answer shareholders questions. -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:35 AM To: investorrelations*cshd.us Subject: SEC fileings
1. Will we have the paperwork complete and turned in by tomorrow to the SEC? 2. Are the ownership of the Bonds proven to the SEC? 3. Will the bonds be hypothecated anytime soon? 4. Is the 6-1 stock split still going to be completed?
Thank you,
Shareholder
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: PDF version of the above link for all who want a copy.
(PDF page 41)Page S-41 has name the name of the ambassedor. (PDF page 157)Page 116 has reference to our 13.625% bond. (PDF page 175)Page 134 has about every name and address needed to confirm existance and ownship of a Bond loaded in Euroclear from the Republic of Venezeula.
By the way this registration statement is to allow public trading of $1.5B US dollars in Venezeulan Bonds. I wonder if Frank Cristiano could be mistaken in his declaration? The CUSIP Nos. are pretty similar.
CUSIP Nos. 922646AT1 and 92299NAJ5 * 13.625% Coupon
CUSIP Nos. 922646BH6 and 922646BK9 * 10.75% Coupon
TB
Nice....you had to spend some time on that doc really reading..
Posted by Jenna on :
Here's a post from HSM: NOT GOOD!!!
#13154 KingsHockey HSM Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 189 Hello everyone. Just got off the phone with Randy Mosely. I asked him if they were required to file and he said that they are not ready and will file an extension today just as a precaution. He said Mike Alexander, has not gone to Europe yet. I asked about the filings and he said that they were going to go over everything and make sure it is good to go because of the problems brought up by the SEC. It sounded to me like they were not close to being done with any of the filings. He did say we should expect a P.R. from Mike within the next day or two to give everyone an update as to what is going on. I'll be honest overall it did not sound very positive. The P.R. from Mike should clarify things up a little though.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Nice....you had to spend some time on that doc really reading..
I go through miles of code on a daily basis. I am good at "skimming".
I am sure there is more in that document. Basically it is a prospectus for the Country of Venezeula.
I will have more time to go through it later... but it does have some VERY interesting ties to everything that has been discussed over the last few months.
Just do a simple search on that document for words like "Euroclear", BCV, Ambassedor, Deutche... it is full that is for sure.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Jenna ~ I do not take that as bad. I would rather they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". This is pretty important, and if they screw it up it could be disasterous.
I posted earlier that I wanted a filing early or on-time. I mean it but if they use an extension they are still considered on-time. Good news is that they plan on explaining it to everyone. Using an extention and not telling people why would be "bad", but telling us it is because they are trying to be careful. I have very little problem with that.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Nice....you had to spend some time on that doc really reading..
I go through miles of code on a daily basis. I am good at "skimming".
I am sure there is more in that document. Basically it is a prospectus for the Country of Venezeula.
I will have more time to go through it later... but it does have some VERY interesting ties to everything that has been discussed over the last few months.
Just do a simple search on that document for words like "Euroclear", BCV, Ambassedor, Deutche... it is full that is for sure.
Yes it does, I had read some of it two days ago. I have to get back to it tonight.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Jenna ~ I do not take that as bad. I would rather they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". This is pretty important, and if they screw it up it could be disasterous.
I posted earlier that I wanted a filing early or on-time. I mean it but if they use an extension they are still considered on-time. Good news is that they plan on explaining it to everyone. Using an extention and not telling people why would be "bad", but telling us it is because they are trying to be careful. I have very little problem with that.
couldn't agree more! If we dip because of it, I'm buying more...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Worst case senario of them stretching this out... PPS goes lower to less than 0.10 or so. IMO... I sell out in late December... declare a masive Capital Loss for Tax time and buy back on the 1st of the year and wait for this horse to start running straight.
There is always a way to make money, you just have to see the big picture.
Posted by CRab on :
I'm not so sure I like this answer...well...I kinda already knew the answer, this just isn't what I was looking for I suppose...honest nonetheless...
quote: CSHD Investor Relations
10:40 am (2 minutes ago) From what I understand is that a company trading on the grey market does not have the filing requirements.
This message was not written by Mike Alexander. I was asked to answer questions. - Hide quoted text -
-----Original Message----- From: [mailto:**********] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:26 AM To: investorrelations*cshd.us Subject: Company Update
As I'm sure you've recieved hundreds of email asking for some sort of info pertaining to the upcoming filing that is due, my question is not whether you will be complying, I'll assume you are, but whether or not the 10Q is still due on Nov. 15?
To clarify I am just wondering if, since we are no longer trading on the OTC:BB, is the 10Q still due on Nov.15?
Thanks,
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Jenna ~ I do not take that as bad. I would rather they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". This is pretty important, and if they screw it up it could be disasterous.
I posted earlier that I wanted a filing early or on-time. I mean it but if they use an extension they are still considered on-time. Good news is that they plan on explaining it to everyone. Using an extention and not telling people why would be "bad", but telling us it is because they are trying to be careful. I have very little problem with that.
I hope your right Tax.......I keep the faith but I have to walk away from this right now.....I'm going to gather more money & start flippin on the Big Boards again.....my heart can't take this but I figure for now I'm just losing on paper but if were to sell I will have truely lost!
Keepin' the faith but I can't look at this car wreck any more.....(especially because as a nurse I want to rush in & stop the bleeding and there's nothing I can do!) Be back later.......
Jenna
Posted by highhopes on :
Jenna...when you say "it did not sound very positive" what did you mean? Did Randy sound like things were going South? Or were you just referring to the fact that having to file an extension is not what we were hoping for?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Here's a post from HSM: NOT GOOD!!!
#13154 KingsHockey HSM Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 189 Hello everyone. Just got off the phone with Randy Mosely. I asked him if they were required to file and he said that they are not ready and will file an extension today just as a precaution. He said Mike Alexander, has not gone to Europe yet. I asked about the filings and he said that they were going to go over everything and make sure it is good to go because of the problems brought up by the SEC. It sounded to me like they were not close to being done with any of the filings. He did say we should expect a P.R. from Mike within the next day or two to give everyone an update as to what is going on. I'll be honest overall it did not sound very positive. The P.R. from Mike should clarify things up a little though.
Actually...far better than I alluded to earlier today.
Remember they are not required to file. I ahd heard MA left Sunday so I do not know if anyone is telling the truth about MA's location. Personally that does not concern me at all.
We can ONLY second guess what they do. They are the ones who have to make this work and becasue of that right now I am not going to question the actions.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Jenna ~ I do not take that as bad. I would rather they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". This is pretty important, and if they screw it up it could be disasterous.
I posted earlier that I wanted a filing early or on-time. I mean it but if they use an extension they are still considered on-time. Good news is that they plan on explaining it to everyone. Using an extention and not telling people why would be "bad", but telling us it is because they are trying to be careful. I have very little problem with that.
I hope your right Tax.......I keep the faith but I have to walk away from this right now (I'm NOT selling - just NOT looking).....I'm going to gather more money & start flippin on the Big Boards again.....my heart can't take this but I figure for now I'm just losing on paper but if were to sell I will have truely lost!
Keepin' the faith but I can't look at this car wreck any more.....(especially because as a nurse I want to rush in & stop the bleeding and there's nothing I can do!) Be back later.......
Jenna
Posted by Chart walker on :
Here comes the fat lady to sing.... sigh ~
Posted by highhopes on :
Sorry, I can see now that you did not talk to Randy directly but picked it up of HSM.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Jenna ~ I do not take that as bad. I would rather they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's". This is pretty important, and if they screw it up it could be disasterous.
I posted earlier that I wanted a filing early or on-time. I mean it but if they use an extension they are still considered on-time. Good news is that they plan on explaining it to everyone. Using an extention and not telling people why would be "bad", but telling us it is because they are trying to be careful. I have very little problem with that.
I hope your right Tax.......I keep the faith but I have to walk away from this right now (I'm NOT selling - just NOT looking).....I'm going to gather more money & start flippin on the Big Boards again.....my heart can't take this but I figure for now I'm just losing on paper but if were to sell I will have truely lost!
Keepin' the faith but I can't look at this car wreck any more.....(especially because as a nurse I want to rush in & stop the bleeding and there's nothing I can do!) Be back later.......
Jenna
I couldn't agree with you more... not much we can do so taking our eyes off of it may be best. GLTU. I don't check in as much as I used to. There are other fish to fry.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Jenna...when you say "it did not sound very positive" what did you mean? Did Randy sound like things were going South? Or were you just referring to the fact that having to file an extension is not what we were hoping for?
That was the quote of the person who actually made the call, someone from HSM...I just copied their post & put it here, he said it doesn't sound very positive I don't know why he said that........As for me, I was just under the impression from Rufus that this was ready to go 3 weeks ago....so I'm just a little disappointed, I won't be selling... but I'm going to steer my attention toward flipping Big Board stock for the time being.....
Posted by Jenna on :
Maybe I'll share my Big Board Flip Picks - I'm pretty good at that!!!!
Posted by CRab on :
here's a big board for anyone with a time machine, check out EFUT like seven days ago, lol...
Posted by 10of13 on :
There ya go...start a thread right here on hot stocks...
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Maybe I'll share my Big Board Flip Picks - I'm pretty good at that!!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: There ya go...start a thread right here on hot stocks...
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Maybe I'll share my Big Board Flip Picks - I'm pretty good at that!!!!
Maybe I will.....!!!
Posted by cool AZ on :
The financials I believe were discussed on one of the talk shows or something ... it was said something to the effect of bringing these out after the SEC investigation and when we are back to normal trading and possibly on one of the bigger boards. A extension will just put us closer to that. Just my recall ...
I agree totally with tax's take. An extension filed at least indicates their intentions on getting it done. JMO
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: here's a big board for anyone with a time machine, check out EFUT like seven days ago, lol...
HOLY COW I missed that boat!! That's what we need from CSHD! LOL
Posted by CRab on :
yeah no kidding rich...here's to hoping our chart reads like that in the not to distant future...
Posted by portman on :
heh...watch BLK
Been a long long long good stock.
Posted by frank021474 on :
The mentioning of PR's coming and extensions etc... to me sounds like information the CSHD would NOT give to a shareholder via the ol cell phone. Especially in the midst of a SEC debaccle.
Will be interesting to see if the chain of events unfolds as mentioned from the call. Either way- I am holding for the amended 10k anyways.
Just my 2 cents
Posted by thedoctor on :
I have always been positive on this however; either Rufus is a lier and/or Mike is a lier or both are. Rufus told all of us that the 10Q was ready to go. Of course it's not. Mike was going to Europe last week. Of course, he still hasn't gone. This to me is looking worse by the day. Someone over at CSHD better start telling us the truth or we better get a Class Action Suite going here. Nothing that they have said is happenning now. Not one company officer is in place that was there when most of us invested. Now the new ones are still not doing what they said they were going to do. Yesterday we were told they would comply with the 10Q (half truth).. an extention. Then Mike was going to Europe to do something very important. Yeaaaa. Sorry guys and girls... theyt just lost me and my trust. I won't sell because that would accept the loss. I will just hold till this is all over and then sue the company for whatever can be got. I hope all of you get the most out of this because you are all so wonderful and faithful. I really tried to stay faithful..... but SORRY .... There is a lot BS coming out of the company. They are starting to look like a bunch of con artists. Nothing but broken promises and lies. I know all of us have done the DD that shows promise but WTF, this is so "Unprofessional" for a corporation to act this way. No PR's ...reports never on time ....when they finally do come out they must be ammended. I can go on and on. I am in this to stay but have no more trust in Mike, Rufus and the rest of these so called officers of the company.
Posted by 6digits on :
I hope these guys are gonna get something done one of these days. Playing on this SEC bullshlt everyday does'nt seem very productive. It seems like it's about time these bonds were hypothicated and JV's funded and all that. Maybe if they IPO out of Red china this commie MOFO government will give it half a chance.
Posted by milliam on :
Doc, sorry to hear that you feel this way. I can understand your frustration and feelings though. The only thing I'd ask is if you're basing these feelings off of the HSM post about talking with Mosley? Its hard to decide on who to believe, but I can't say that I believe all of that 100%.
Good luck to us all!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: I have always been positive on this however; either Rufus is a lier and/or Mike is a lier or both are. Rufus told all of us that the 10Q was ready to go. Of course it's not. Mike was going to Europe last week. Of course, he still hasn't gone. This to me is looking worse by the day. Someone over at CSHD better start telling us the truth or we better get a Class Action Suite going here. Nothing that they have said is happening now. Not one company officer is in place that was there when most of us invested. Now the new ones are still not doing what they said they were going to do. Yesterday we were told they would comply with the 10Q (half truth).. an extension. Then Mike was going to Europe to do something very important. Yeaaaa. Sorry guys and girls... theyt just lost me and my trust. I won't sell because that would accept the loss. I will just hold till this is all over and then sue the company for whatever can be got. I hope all of you get the most out of this because you are all so wonderful and faithful. I really tried to stay faithful..... but SORRY .... This is al lot oBS coming out of the company. They are starting to look like a bunch of con artists. Nothing but broken promises and lies. I know all of us have done the DD that shows promise but WTF, this is so "Unprofessional" for a corporation to act this way. No PR's ...reports never on time ....when they finally do come out they must be ammended. I can go on and on. I am in this to stay but have no more trust in Mike, Rufus and the rest of these so called officers of the company.
Interesting post...I won't forget it.
Sorry Doc... your being too emotional.
RPH said things you are injecting as FACT after he had left the company. You're a smart guy...would you blindly use a 10Q left behind?...I would not. PLAIN and SIMPLE they do not need to file this at all. The fact that the effort is being put forth is interesting.
So some guy posts on a message board MA is not in the EU. He might not have had to go. We do not know the specifics.
What would you prefer? The company secure your short term valuation then lose it? Or take time to secure your long term valuation.
My trust is in the long term. I don't like all I see and hear. I don't like the situation. But sniping the guys trying to fix the problems will not make you feel better.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Doc, sorry to hear that you feel this way. I can understand your frustration and feelings though. The only thing I'd ask is if you're basing these feelings off of the HSM post about talking with Mosley? Its hard to decide on who to believe, but I can't say that I believe all of that 100%.
Good luck to us all!
Milliam, I know what your saying.....how did he even know what number I've thought of that...but it follows the pattern of the company being late....but I have PM'ed him for more info....& I'm waiting....
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Doc, sorry to hear that you feel this way. I can understand your frustration and feelings though. The only thing I'd ask is if you're basing these feelings off of the HSM post about talking with Mosley? Its hard to decide on who to believe, but I can't say that I believe all of that 100%.
Good luck to us all!
milliam ...I hope you are right. I think you all know that I feel like we are a family here. The problem is I am not used to being involved in a company that operated like this one. It's getting real worse ... not better. They need to start acting like a real company.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Most on here are "falling" for the info posted on mesage boards...You can't... What you can depend on is your own DD and the company and their filings. Is the 10Q needed from the company at this time? is the 10Q even "allowed" to be filed given the fact of the investigation? I simply do not know. Required or not, as long as the SEC has not said that "you can not file" IMO...they NEED to, if they can not? Then they should PR that. Not asking for hand holding, only for facts and information from the company, not message board hear say.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Can someone try to call Moseley and see if the 10Q extension rumor is true? I would myself but I can't at the moment. If you can't get Moseley on the phone, then see if you can get a warm body to confirm what he said.
Also, while you're at it tell them to draw down on a bond and HIRE SOME PEOPLE! WTF!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Come on guys- wait until you see A FILING! Wait till you see a PR. Wait until you see whats going on in the background.
As I have said on many posts in the last few days lets believe what comes out officially.
Not some guys post on a message board that says he received INSIDER information from the CFO!
If its true then we are in the same boat as you emotionally put yourself into believing it in the first place. If its not true you beat yourself up for nothing.
Good luck to everyone- I don't eat happy pills everyday I just know what to listen to as speculation and what to listen to as gospel.
-fw
Posted by cassity on :
All I know is, Mike A specifically stated in the PR, "to only listen to info that comes from him directly". Everyone has to make their own choices, I've made mine and will ride this until the end. GLTA
Posted by 6digits on :
I called the number, just a recording. Probably getting a lot of calls.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
great post frank, my feelings as well. Take some time away from this thing, play some other stocks, golf before the weather gets to bad, and hopefully this will work itself out. I understand everyones concerns, I just choose to put my mind on more positive things for the time being... GLTA
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: I have always been positive on this however; either Rufus is a lier and/or Mike is a lier or both are. Rufus told all of us that the 10Q was ready to go. Of course it's not. Mike was going to Europe last week. Of course, he still hasn't gone. This to me is looking worse by the day. Someone over at CSHD better start telling us the truth or we better get a Class Action Suite going here. Nothing that they have said is happening now. Not one company officer is in place that was there when most of us invested. Now the new ones are still not doing what they said they were going to do. Yesterday we were told they would comply with the 10Q (half truth).. an extension. Then Mike was going to Europe to do something very important. Yeaaaa. Sorry guys and girls... theyt just lost me and my trust. I won't sell because that would accept the loss. I will just hold till this is all over and then sue the company for whatever can be got. I hope all of you get the most out of this because you are all so wonderful and faithful. I really tried to stay faithful..... but SORRY .... This is al lot oBS coming out of the company. They are starting to look like a bunch of con artists. Nothing but broken promises and lies. I know all of us have done the DD that shows promise but WTF, this is so "Unprofessional" for a corporation to act this way. No PR's ...reports never on time ....when they finally do come out they must be ammended. I can go on and on. I am in this to stay but have no more trust in Mike, Rufus and the rest of these so called officers of the company.
Interesting post...I won't forget it.
Sorry Doc... your being too emotional.
RPH said things you are injecting as FACT after he had left the company. You're a smart guy...would you blindly use a 10Q left behind?...I would not. PLAIN and SIMPLE they do not need to file this at all. The fact that the effort is being put forth is interesting.
So some guy posts on a message board MA is not in the EU. He might not have had to go. We do not know the specifics.
What would you prefer? The company secure your short term valuation then lose it? Or take time to secure your long term valuation.
My trust is in the long term. I don't like all I see and hear. I don't like the situation. But sniping the guys trying to fix the problems will not make you feel better.
Port ... You are right .... I probably am being too emotional. Over the last couple of months I have come to know a lot of you here. I care about and respect ALL of you. It is not just one post that has caused me to feel this way. As I said before, how many times are they going to delay reports and not do what they say. Mike is not in Europe yet. Weren't we told he left the end of last week? I can afford to lose what I might lose ... I have made plenty on other investments. But I also know how many dreams a lot of people here had and it is sickening to me what has happened so far. If anyone here thinks I am bashing, you couldn't be more wrong. I hope I am so so wrong about this. Nothing more has been done with this stockholders committee we voted for (I voted for you)... it seems that nothing happens that is suppose to happen. Maybe I just need a rest. I have lost confidence. I am really sorry. I am not deserting any of you. I am long to stay. I hope the long is a bigger long than it is today. Posted by cassity on :
Hounding the company will not make them release info. any quicker. We have tried that approach in the past and all it does is cause more confusion. Let's try a new approach, it's called PATIENCE!
Posted by wv1973 on :
Okay frank -- what is your thinking on how many more waits on a filing we should do? After we see a PR (maybe), how many more are we to wait for? When is enough, enough?
Also, I for one would like to ask you and others not to post messages from other boards, especially tut. I can go to those sites if I'd like. I'm just asking. Straw poll anyone?
Posted by Jenna on :
Sorry if I offened anyone with that post from HSM- but take it FWIW......
Posted by RichBy26 on :
No need to apologize for your post doc, we are all in the same boat. I know what you are saying about peoples hopes and dreams with this stock, hopefully they will still be realized...
Posted by wv1973 on :
Jenna, no offense at all. It's just that I hate mummies. lol
Posted by frank021474 on :
I am not saying wait for 90098098345 filings! I am saying at least wait for something to come out from the COMPANY and base your decisions on that.
They will file and they will PR. Until then getting emotional and throwing your arms up on speculation seems like a waste of energy.
Was an "extension" and "PR" considered insider info?
Yes- anything that comes from a company officer that affects the PPS is right? Perhaps we are more screwd or perhaps its someone trying to shake out some more shares?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
thedoctor -
I would encourage you to be a bit more open minded to the idea that when Mike Alexander took over ALL previous VERBAL promises were off.
I'm not saying the 6:1 merger "contract" is off the table, but the "pie in the sky" filing promises are as they were NOT made by Mike.
Ironically, your feelings are similar to the SEC in that they (you) don't have much to complain about with the new management but take issue with past management.
Given the totality of the situation, do you blame Mike Alexander and Randy Moseley from wanting to make sure EVERYTHING is nut tight before signing off on the new or amended filings?
Posted by Jenna on :
FWIW - I just got a PM from the gentlemen who posted that on HSM & he said for me to feel free & call myself, he called the number from the website....Of couse I won't be calling...tried that once & was a horrible experience...
He also said he had mixed emotions - he had good feelings & bad feelings -
Good because he felt like it was business as usual because they were going through everything with a fine toothed comb
& Bad because he said Randy couldn't say if the bonds were real or not they were looking into it....(I know, from Tax's posts WITH LINKS, that in fact they are real & that Conversion owns portions of them) so that's what he said again take it FWIW....
Posted by portman on :
Doc - I understand how you feel. Let me address the shareholders committee. That is on hold until all this stuff with teh SEC and refiling is completed. We want to work closely with MA to get it right. There is nothing we can really do with it right now anyway.
I also think the vast majority of "longs" where long until the short squeeze or reset only. Since this is a short term realization.
I looked to the benefit of the short squeeze to enhance my position in the company. My view of this is 2-3 years down the road. So the drama of today and the PPS to me is opportune. This was in NO WAY my initial position until my DD progressed to where it is today..
Any company can go broke and fold for any number of reasons. We can still lose here! But I am betting we do not in the long run.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
thedoctor -
If CSHD goes bankrupt how about you and I head over to Kennesaw, GA and ride off with a couple of Rufus’ thoroughbreds for restitution?
Giddy Up! Posted by highhopes on :
If I were Mike Alexander I would do the following
1) Forbid anyone on the team from having any direct contact with shareholders or board posters that did not come though proper channels.
2) Make sure that anything that goes out on PR under my watch is accurate.
3) Recognize that this is my one chance for a reset and if i screw this up the company will never regain credibility.
So it is not surprising the company is moving in a very cautious, quiet, manner.
Posted by Jenna on :
Everone's got to understand- people are getting "ANTSY" because we haven't heard anything from the company, wheather we should hear or not is not the point - it's just how some people feel - Just understand everyone feels differently at this point doesn't mean their not holding but very much entitled to feel a litle uneasy after all this is money we are talking about!!!....some people are more patient than others & that's ok!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: thedoctor -
If CSHD goes bankrupt how about you and I head over to Kennesaw, GA and ride off with a couple of Rufus’ thoroughbreds for restitution?
Giddy Up!
LMAO- he took me horseback riding when I was 10 & he was in agony the whole time - He walked Bow legged for a few days
But
I can assure you this doc is the type that WILL be taking a trip down there with you - BELIEVE ME - & he would take more than a few horses he would take a few arms & legs with him too!!!!
Posted by highhopes on :
Agree Jenna, just make sure the Doc gets his TLC. Need to make sure he is ready to play some golf this Spring!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: If I were Mike Alexander I would do the following
1) Forbid anyone on the team from having any direct contact with shareholders or board posters that did not come though proper channels.
2) Make sure that anything that goes out on PR under my watch is accurate.
3) Recognize that this is my one chance for a reset and if i screw this up the company will never regain credibility.
So it is not surprising the company is moving in a very cautious, quiet, manner.
VERY GOOD POINT!!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I wish that was my pending order that just got fat finger filled at .055
Posted by Jenna on :
High Hopes- The only one that can give do some TLC right now is Mike Alexander!
Posted by 6digits on :
Look somebody bought a share for .55 to cheer us up!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I agree with Portman on this. If a new CEO steps up and is under scrutiny of the SEC. I am sure he is not going to use the filing prepared by the previous CEO who is also under SEC scrutiny.
What according to the complaint got Rufus in trouble? The wording in the filings.
Honestly, who in their right mind is going to say hey the last guy said these were done. Go ahead and file them. I don't need to look at them.
Sounds like an easy way to get your name on the same litigation.
I am not saying that Rufus was wrong, just saying Mike is right to look at them and disect them before filing.
As for Mike being in Europe, or where ever he is supposed to be. It means little to me this day and age. I was in Venezeula this morning, swung by NYC just before lunch, and will be in Washington D.C. listening to SPR tonight. Man I love the Internet.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Everone's got to understand- people are getting "ANTSY" because we haven't heard anything from the company, wheather we should hear or not is not the point - it's just how some people feel - Just understand everyone feels differently at this point doesn't mean their not holding but very much entitled to feel a litle uneasy after all this is money we are talking about!!!....some people are more patient than others & that's ok!!!
I think people understand that.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Doc,
I don't think your being too emotional at all. I just think people are taking this experience too personally and defending Mike & Rufus like they are family. This is a multibillion dollar business not some mom & pop candy store and we should question these actions (or lack there of). If this were any other business or service you paid for and they made all these outrageous promises that they didnt fulfill you wouldnt be 'patient' with them, you'd be in court.
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: thedoctor -
I would encourage you to be a bit more open minded to the idea that when Mike Alexander took over ALL previous VERBAL promises were off.
I'm not saying the 6:1 merger "contract" is off the table, but the "pie in the sky" filing promises are as they were NOT made by Mike.
Ironically, your feelings are similar to the SEC in that they (you) don't have much to complain about with the new management but take issue with past management.
Given the totality of the situation, do you blame Mike Alexander and Randy Moseley from wanting to make sure EVERYTHING is nut tight before signing off on the new or amended filings?
Texas ...I don't blame Mike for past problems a all. It's just that we were under the opinion that he was in Europe last Friday and following company's performance...he hasn't left yet. I would like to see someone at corporate keep something on schedule. You know my position. I am long but starting to get pis*ed. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh and as far as the not posting information from other boards! NO WAY would I vote for that. I don't have enough time in the day to sift through all that garbage for the small bits of wisdom. I love the fact that others are doing it with me.
To me that is not DD but it is a nice way to get leads to trails for additional DD. If someone said they heard this... then take it fwiw and then go DD the crap outta it... before you buy the crap outta it!
TB
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Everone's got to understand- people are getting "ANTSY" because we haven't heard anything from the company, wheather we should hear or not is not the point - it's just how some people feel - Just understand everyone feels differently at this point doesn't mean their not holding but very much entitled to feel a litle uneasy after all this is money we are talking about!!!....some people are more patient than others & that's ok!!!
I think people understand that.
You make sense Posted by TexasMoney on :
I understand completey! There are two points that really piss me off.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for Legal Counsel.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for external audits.
By doing this the company tells shareholders we're on top of things. Howevery, NOT doing this leaves us wonder WTF is going on.
Very Lame!
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: thedoctor -
I would encourage you to be a bit more open minded to the idea that when Mike Alexander took over ALL previous VERBAL promises were off.
I'm not saying the 6:1 merger "contract" is off the table, but the "pie in the sky" filing promises are as they were NOT made by Mike.
Ironically, your feelings are similar to the SEC in that they (you) don't have much to complain about with the new management but take issue with past management.
Given the totality of the situation, do you blame Mike Alexander and Randy Moseley from wanting to make sure EVERYTHING is nut tight before signing off on the new or amended filings?
Texas ...I don't blame Mike for past problems a all. It's just that we were under the opinion that he was in Europe last Friday and following company's performance...he hasn't left yet. I would like to see someone at corporate keep something on schedule. You know my position. I am long but starting to get pis*ed.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I understand completey! There are two points that really piss me off.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for Legal Counsel.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for external audits.
By doing this the company tells shareholders we're on top of things. Howevery, NOT doing this leaves us wonder WTF is going on.
Very Lame!
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: thedoctor -
I would encourage you to be a bit more open minded to the idea that when Mike Alexander took over ALL previous VERBAL promises were off.
I'm not saying the 6:1 merger "contract" is off the table, but the "pie in the sky" filing promises are as they were NOT made by Mike.
Ironically, your feelings are similar to the SEC in that they (you) don't have much to complain about with the new management but take issue with past management.
Given the totality of the situation, do you blame Mike Alexander and Randy Moseley from wanting to make sure EVERYTHING is nut tight before signing off on the new or amended filings?
Texas ...I don't blame Mike for past problems a all. It's just that we were under the opinion that he was in Europe last Friday and following company's performance...he hasn't left yet. I would like to see someone at corporate keep something on schedule. You know my position. I am long but starting to get pis*ed.
your right on the recieving pr's, but putting out pr's is not mikes strong point, when fhal was purchasing thier shares from the open market, they did not pr that, and because of that, they lost an auditor.. lets hope he is smarter because of that..
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Doc,
I don't think your being too emotional at all. I just think people are taking this experience too personally and defending Mike & Rufus like they are family. This is a multibillion dollar business not some mom & pop candy store and we should question these actions (or lack there of). If this were any other business or service you paid for and they made all these outrageous promises that they didnt fulfill you wouldnt be 'patient' with them, you'd be in court.
I agree! the price has fallen everyday since the suspension was lifted! yet no OFFICIAL word from the company on what is happening! NOT the way a multi billion dollar company ( alledgedly! ) would be handling this situation! IMO!. apparently there will be no filing on the 15th as many beleived/hoped! low volume today, sell off tomarrow? who knows! if the filing is delayed they realy need to PR the reason or this will be under a dime by friday! JM(PO`d)O!!
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I understand completey! There are two points that really piss me off.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for Legal Counsel.
CSHD should have issued a PR announcing who we retained for external audits.
By doing this the company tells shareholders we're on top of things. Howevery, NOT doing this leaves us wonder WTF is going on.
Very Lame!
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: thedoctor -
I would encourage you to be a bit more open minded to the idea that when Mike Alexander took over ALL previous VERBAL promises were off.
I'm not saying the 6:1 merger "contract" is off the table, but the "pie in the sky" filing promises are as they were NOT made by Mike.
Ironically, your feelings are similar to the SEC in that they (you) don't have much to complain about with the new management but take issue with past management.
Given the totality of the situation, do you blame Mike Alexander and Randy Moseley from wanting to make sure EVERYTHING is nut tight before signing off on the new or amended filings?
Texas ...I don't blame Mike for past problems a all. It's just that we were under the opinion that he was in Europe last Friday and following company's performance...he hasn't left yet. I would like to see someone at corporate keep something on schedule. You know my position. I am long but starting to get pis*ed.
Texas ...THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. You said exactly what I was feeling. We need to be informed. We are the company.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
If you into the "Jerry Springer" message board that HSM has become, you might find this one funny (assuming "ALady in the House" is RPH's wife as rumored):
ALady in the House HSM Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12 Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSolo Rufus and co. ARE a known group of shady characters in the SEC's circle. They have run fraud scams before. Last time they got a slap on the wrist. I don't think they'll be so lucky this time imo.
I just hope Mike has a way out of this all.
captainsolo YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP!!! BAN ME
Posted by new2stocks on :
ALady in the house posted on HSM a bit ago...wasn't she supposedly Rufus' wife?
Posted by new2stocks on :
yeah Texas, that post! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't posting "deceptive" PRs the reason why the company is in trouble with the SEC? I think they may be playing their cards close to the chest.
I'm waiting for either the 10Q or NT to be filed by tomorrow. If we don't see any filings, I'll officially start being nervous.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Perhaps! I wasn't asking for anything deceptive only definitive. If they haven't retained Legal Counsel or an external audit, then it shouldn't be made public. However, if they have then let us know so we can rest a bit easier KNOWING something is being done to right this ship.
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't posting "deceptive" PRs the reason why the company is in trouble with the SEC? I think they may be playing their cards close to the chest.
I'm waiting for either the 10Q or NT to be filed by tomorrow. If we don't see any filings, I'll officially start being nervous.
Posted by 66inxs on :
people keep quoting rufus's post about not thinking like a penny stock. they need to quit ACTING like a penny stock. on 10/16 it opened at 2.27 and closed at 1.85 with a promise of 6 shares for 1. today it is at .30 right now with no pr's and no promises of a 6 to 1. no wonder people are antsy. i think there will be lawsuits aganist the principles here. some people lost a lot of money and a lot of people are really pissed about this. the officers, along with the sec, choked the life out of the beast as i see it. we've all lost money on our stocks and it sucks. but we have to leave this play with knowledge that will make us better traders in the future, and not to let our confidence be ruined.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I for one am a great "trager"!
1.98 to 0.30 has no one to blame but the shareholders that are selling. If you sold for 0.30... then you set the price.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Perhaps! I wasn't asking for anything deceptive only definitive. If they haven't retained Legal Counsel or an external audit, then it shouldn't be made public. However, if they have then let us know so we can rest a bit easier KNOWING something is being done to right this ship.
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't posting "deceptive" PRs the reason why the company is in trouble with the SEC? I think they may be playing their cards close to the chest.
I'm waiting for either the 10Q or NT to be filed by tomorrow. If we don't see any filings, I'll officially start being nervous.
I totally agree with you! I've increased my Prevacid Rx this month! Posted by SherriT on :
I believe in my DD, and I have definately had moments where I was ready to cash in my shares and take back what I could, but something in my gut keeps saying this is the real deal...
Posted by 66inxs on :
thanks tax i edited my post. you set the price especially if you are trading on the greys. exact truth.
Posted by 6digits on :
Theres a cure and a prevention from PRing false and misleading information. PR true and honest stuff. What's the problem with that. And another thing is I hope Mike is off the get shorty bandwagon because i'm tired of using my money to be a vehicle to bust all the naked shorters and stuff. Someone posted that Randy Mosely isn't sure the bonds are real. What kind of crap is that? He should'nt be sitting in that chair using up the shareholders dividends if he does'nt know. I'm venting too.
Posted by SherriT on :
I'm not so sure that Randy Mosley post was true information. Everything we have gotten from the investor relations group has been very hush-hush - can't say this, can't say that due to the investigation. WHY would a new officer go running his mouth to joe schmoe shareholder and contradict all of that? Just not logical....
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I know this rubs a few the wrong way when people pull posts from HSM, but I know others find this somewhat interesting. So here it is ...
From HSM's "ALady in the House":
ALady in the House HSM Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 14 Quote: Originally Posted by L2tradr I'll agree with you when I see the $15/share your husband promised everyone. Until then, its all talk with no substance.
HE IS NOT MY HUSBAN "HE" MY SON I HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT BE AROUND WHEN THIS HAPPENS!!!!! GO AWAY THANK YOU
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ALady in the house posted on HSM a bit ago...wasn't she supposedly Rufus' wife?
Not his wife, but someone who know's him VERY well and would whoop his azz if he was lying to us. LOL GLTY Posted by TexasMoney on :
It appears that RPH's mother is the one posted as "ALady in the House". Oh, the drama!
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ALady in the house posted on HSM a bit ago...wasn't she supposedly Rufus' wife?
Not his wife, but someone who know's him VERY well and would whoop his azz if he was lying to us. LOL GLTY
Posted by 6digits on :
SherriT, thats what i'm thinking.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not so sure that Randy Mosley post was true information. Everything we have gotten from the investor relations group has been very hush-hush - can't say this, can't say that due to the investigation. WHY would a new officer go running his mouth to joe schmoe shareholder and contradict all of that? Just not logical....
LOL no kidding.
You people have been given information this morning that cleanly shows the sec went off half cocked against cshd, and yet you would rather run screaming into the night based on a post from a supposed phone call.
what a bunch of pisspants.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ALady in the house posted on HSM a bit ago...wasn't she supposedly Rufus' wife?
Not his wife, but someone who know's him VERY well and would whoop his azz if he was lying to us. LOL GLTY
Ahh it was his mom I see....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Getting kicked around by Rufus's Mom of all things. HA HA HA!!! This stock is awesome!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No ****. I guess he wanted her to have a bit part in the movie.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Getting kicked around by Rufus's Mom of all things. HA HA HA!!! This stock is awesome!
Posted by MTPromises on :
again, for what it's worth, here is another response I received from CSHD via e-mail. I asked in my e-mail who I was talking to but they never said. Didn't someone here say they were told who it was?
I understand your concerns. Believe me we all share them. But imagine if Mike were to put something out that the SEC disagrees with then we would get extended even further. I know Mike is not sleeping and is working on the situation. He will succeed. He always has. I am a long as well. 2 1/2 years long and while I know that everyone is impatient please realize that he feels as you. He loves his shareholders and would do anything for them. He ask for patience. Thank you for being their for CSHD.
Posted by 66inxs on :
too funny. maybe roseanne could be available to play the part of his mom if the movie is ever made. IPRE might be able to produce it.
Posted by CRab on :
Posted by 66inxs on :
wireless connections by BBAN...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Tell Rufus's mom to spank her son's butt and spank the crap out of it!!!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Well, she can spell better than Rufus so she should at least get the PR job.
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: too funny. maybe roseanne could be available to play the part of his mom if the movie is ever made. IPRE might be able to produce it.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Afternoon folks. Seems like we are off on a tangent today. Anything new to report before I wade through the past few hours of posts?
Posted by CRab on :
Doni...this was good...not much else...
quote: PDF version of the above link for all who want a copy.
(PDF page 41)Page S-41 has name the name of the ambassedor. (PDF page 157)Page 116 has reference to our 13.625% bond. (PDF page 175)Page 134 has about every name and address needed to confirm existance and ownship of a Bond loaded in Euroclear from the Republic of Venezeula.
By the way this registration statement is to allow public trading of $1.5B US dollars in Venezeulan Bonds. I wonder if Frank Cristiano could be mistaken in his declaration? The CUSIP Nos. are pretty similar.
CUSIP Nos. 922646AT1 and 92299NAJ5 * 13.625% Coupon
CUSIP Nos. 922646BH6 and 922646BK9 * 10.75% Coupon
TB(TaxBack04)
Posted by new2stocks on :
someone on HSM wanted to know if Rufus had a daughter named Jennifer. A poster on HSM by the name of JenniferO posted...I think I know who that is!! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
SEC Freezes Assets of Purported Hedge Fund Manager FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 2006-189 Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2006
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
MAN!! DD just got a bit easier. Has everyone tried the NEW full text search at SEC.gov? NICE!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Well, we know the story with Nite being our marker maker...Anyone wish to call them and ask why they don't wish to be our market maker now? Ha ha ha ha LMAO.
(PDF page 41)Page S-41 has name the name of the ambassedor. (PDF page 157)Page 116 has reference to our 13.625% bond. (PDF page 175)Page 134 has about every name and address needed to confirm existance and ownship of a Bond loaded in Euroclear from the Republic of Venezeula.
By the way this registration statement is to allow public trading of $1.5B US dollars in Venezeulan Bonds. I wonder if Frank Cristiano could be mistaken in his declaration? The CUSIP Nos. are pretty similar.
CUSIP Nos. 922646AT1 and 92299NAJ5 * 13.625% Coupon
CUSIP Nos. 922646BH6 and 922646BK9 * 10.75% Coupon
TB(TaxBack04)
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Unfortunately we are unable to speak on any of the questions that you have asked. Hopefully you can understand that with the investigation going on we are limited as to what we can say. You faith and support are appreciated. When we have the ability we will let everyone know via a PR as to the status. Thanks
This message was not written by Mike Alexander. I was asked to answer shareholders questions. -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:35 AM To: investorrelations*cshd.us Subject: SEC fileings
1. Will we have the paperwork complete and turned in by tomorrow to the SEC? 2. Are the ownership of the Bonds proven to the SEC? 3. Will the bonds be hypothecated anytime soon? 4. Is the 6-1 stock split still going to be completed?
Thank you,
Shareholder
" [phone conversation continued] But if you call Randy Mosely our Chief Financial Officer he will fill you in on what to expect over the next few days....he will also tell you he doesn't know if the bonds are real, he understands that he can go to jail for sharing insider information to some stranger over the cell phone but long as you promise not to post it on the internet"
I made the continued part up- being sarcastic.....
Posted by CRab on :
Doni... It mentions our bonds...and how to contact the guy that was responsible for verifying the bonds in the first place...
Look at the pages Tax has marked...and I'm sure if I mistated something here he'll set me straight...
Basically just reaffirms stuff we thought we already knew...
Posted by Doniboy on :
But it doesn't mention us specifically.
Posted by madmoney on :
ROV 13.625% *************** U.S.$ 753 753 13.625% Aug. 98(3) Aug. 18 United States, this bond issue seems to be the one we may own a piece or all of i think, - footnote -(3) U.S.$500 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes was issued initially for cash in August 1998. In connection with the BANDES Exchange, 2003 the Republic issued an additional U.S.$252.8 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes, which form a single series with the U.S.$500 of these notes issued in 1998. -- from page 116.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Everyone you should try this NEW SEC search out:
Go to the link below and in the field "Search for Text" enter: 922646AT1
I quickly just pulled the CUSIP number off the page above and did a search. This is a heck of alot better search than it used to be.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: But it doesn't mention us specifically.
Doni don't go getting all riled up about little or nothing. Just read this mornings posts it will make more sense. CRab was just trying to fill you in on our discussion this morning.
Someone said hey check out this SECinfo page. I then said yeah well if you like that then look at this PDF that says the same thing. Then I went back to the SECinfo page and saw the Ambassedo's name. Thought that was cool and then found the SEC page in PDF. Funny thing is all this stuff is posted at the SEC and they are the ones who can't find it. (Speculation: they may have found it.)
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: But it doesn't mention us specifically.
Doni don't go getting all riled up about little or nothing. Just read this mornings posts it will make more sense. CRab was just trying to fill you in on our discussion this morning.
Someone said hay check out this SECinfo page. I then said yeah well if you like that then look at this PDF that says the same thing. Then I wnet back to the SECinfo page and saw the Ambassedo's name. Thought that was cool and then found the SEC page in PDF. Funny thing is all this stuff is posted at the SEC and they are the ones who can't find it. (Speculation: they may have found it.)
(Speculation: I wish they would hurry up and tell the judge they found it. Looks pretty stupid to have that on their own website and still question it - dumb arses)
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't know how anybody talked to this Randy bum today. I have'nt been able to get through, just some recording gag that these penny stock hotshots play with shareholders.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
HA HA!! New SEC search is a great thing... how many have seen this?
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: But it doesn't mention us specifically.
Doni don't go getting all riled up about little or nothing. Just read this mornings posts it will make more sense. CRab was just trying to fill you in on our discussion this morning.
Someone said hey check out this SECinfo page. I then said yeah well if you like that then look at this PDF that says the same thing. Then I went back to the SECinfo page and saw the Ambassedo's name. Thought that was cool and then found the SEC page in PDF. Funny thing is all this stuff is posted at the SEC and they are the ones who can't find it. (Speculation: they may have found it.)
rufus mentioned on the last spr interview that the sec was made aware of the corporate finance division having records of their bonds, and that they didnt want to go that route because it would take them too long.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: HA HA!! New SEC is a great thing... how many have seen this?
Go back a couple of threads, this was already discussed in detail. It was proven to be B.S.(a forgery) Rufus also addressed it on Subpenny multiple times. GLTY
Posted by frank021474 on :
I'm going to go BALD with the ups and downs of this thing!
When is the COURT supposed to issue a ruling? -was it 30 days from that last signing?...
Posted by cassity on :
I think there is a new filing out. My computer is all scewed up. I think it's a extension on the 10Q.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Yes Cass- extension filed. 5 DAYS
Posted by new2stocks on :
Wow Tax, great DD!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Yes Cass- extension filed. 5 DAYS
Well that's five more days of R and R! LOL Posted by milliam on :
I talked with St. Matthew today. He wanted to say hey to everyone. He said he'd love to be on here more often, but his current work situation doesn't allow it. We compared notes on the Dallas dinner and the BBQ here in GA.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Hopefully its not raining tomorrow. I am going to play some golf!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Wow Tax, great DD!
Yes it was! Posted by Jenna on :
Tax or anyone- can you explain to this blonde what those links are that i'm looking at.....This is what it looks like to me:
Could someone explain it in "Blonde Language"?
Posted by MTPromises on :
I'll say it, too - Holy crap, Tax, nice find! How much more embarassing can this be for the SEC?
Posted by thesource on :
No surprise at all with the extension filed . I'll bet the 10Q will be vague at best when it is finally filed .
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tax or anyone- can you explain to this blonde what those links are that i'm looking at.....This is what it looks like to me:
Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
Posted by sceptor on :
TaxBack, HSM sends greetings and thank you's.
Originally Posted by lincpro So the SEC didn't even search their own data bases to see if a Bond Annex existed? HA Seems these monkeys are so dumb that they are waiting for the footballs to hump them.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Nice work Tax...I will have to check this stuff out tonight...Hey gang
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: HA HA!! New SEC search is a great thing... how many have seen this?
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
calendar, if the last day falls on a weekend then the following monday.
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
CSHD days. Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
CSHD days.
That long?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
DD pays off again. Good links and great finds.
GO CSHD.
Now, where are those damn market makers? I want to buy more shares...I think. Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
CSHD days.
That long?
YEP! Posted by 10of13 on :
And we go by the day that they filed or do we go by the day that it was due? Regardless if it's calendar I guess it is due next Monday correct?
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is that 5 business days? 5 trading days? Calendar days? Dog days or what? Anyone know?
calendar, if the last day falls on a weekend then the following monday.
Posted by frank021474 on :
5 days in CSHD days= 93280923842093 days.
Jenna that was hilarious- I don't understand it all either. I wait for smart people to read it and post
Posted by thesource on :
And if they don't file it by then , I guess we get delisted off of the grey's and what out on the street in front of the building using post it notes for bids ?
What a mess .........
Posted by CRab on :
yep 10...next monday is apparently the new CSHD D-Day...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Frank? Is that a picture of our new officers?
Posted by frank021474 on :
Think the due date is 5business days from the due date which was 11/15- so makes it due on the 20th.
Posted by 6digits on :
The SEC guys are looking for the Venezuela bond I thought? Nice to know that their kids in 1st grade can point them to the other ones.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I like this part... All funds received by Conversion Solutions, Inc. under this Agreement shall become the exclusive property of Conversion Solutions, Inc. and remain a part of Conversion Solutions, Inc.'s general account without any duty or requirement of segregation or separate investment.
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL 10! Thats me doing DD!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Frank? Is that a picture of our new officers?
Yeah, I guess they were trying out new WIND gaurd ear muffs when they were packing the UHauls for Texas! LOL ~~
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: LOL 10! Thats me doing DD!
"DD" (!!!)
LMAO! good one Frankster!! Posted by St. Matthew on :
Kinda makes you go HHHMMM...
1. DEPOSIT
Conversion Solutions, Inc. agrees to accept, and the Agreement Holder agrees to pay or cause to be paid to Conversion Solutions, Inc., for value on the Effective Date, the Net Deposit (as specified in the Annex). All funds received by Conversion Solutions, Inc. under this Agreement shall become the exclusive property of Conversion Solutions, Inc. and remain a part of Conversion Solutions, Inc.'s general account without any duty or requirement of segregation or separate investment. This Agreement shall become effective only upon the receipt by Conversion Solutions, Inc. or its designee of the Net Deposit and or investment grade securities.
Posted by 3403 on :
I think all the DD proves the Bonds exist, just not who owns them or portions thereof. At least nothing I saw. Although I am not knowledgable as to how title is shown for such instruments if at all. Possession might be all that is needed.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Another extension and delay, eh?
I feel like my life is going like Adam Sandler's in the movie "Click".....He keeps wishing for that DAY where he moves ahead in life.......
Posted by frank021474 on :
Chart- I was wondering if anyone would get my DD joke Posted by 6digits on :
St Matthew, i like the precautionary idea.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I just watched that movie this weekend...WOW, his wife was smoking!
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Another extension and delay, eh?
I feel like my life is going like Adam Sandler's in the movie "Click".....He keeps wishing for that DAY where he moves ahead in life.......
Posted by Jenna on :
Frank -I'm laughing my but off - that's how I feel - somethings I understand but other things - I have to sit & wait for "the smart people" to read it also!!!
Jenna that was hilarious- I don't understand it all either. I wait for smart people to read it and post
Judging by the mood, it's good I take it!!!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Tax, do you see the Venezuela bond anywhere?
If you will follow the link from earlier it leads to the prospectus of the venez. bonds. The prospectus states that no one can have their names assigned to the bond(s) directly. That means they must be have proof that ownership has been transferred and have access codes for euroclear.
This is exactly what Rufus said happened.
Dont forget the information found in the last 2 links to the humanitarian bond was filed in an 8-k.
Posted by Jenna on :
Frank - Weird Science?
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: 5 days in CSHD days= 93280923842093 days.
Jenna that was hilarious- I don't understand it all either. I wait for smart people to read it and post
Posted by frank021474 on :
Yes it was on this past weekend
Posted by RichBy26 on :
hey St Matt, good to see you!!
Posted by CRab on :
Who's betting they release this stuff before the end of the week?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Another extension and delay, eh?
I feel like my life is going like Adam Sandler's in the movie "Click".....He keeps wishing for that DAY where he moves ahead in life.......
No CSHD is like that movie GroundHog's Day
Frank - Do you have an image for that?
Posted by 6digits on :
Frank, does the Double D cup help?
Posted by 66inxs on :
Hey - St. Matt!!!!! I missed you, we all have missed you- still digesting those nachos from Dallas?
Posted by 6digits on :
They don't make computers like they used to.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Anyone think we get something before the end of the week?
"Heartburn?..." Posted by 10of13 on :
Wait...so all we need is to send the SEC a Double D and all is good?
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Anyone think we get something before the end of the week?
"Heartburn?..."
Got Rolaids?
Posted by jmoe20 on :
I don't see how this was a great find... They had to file these forms with the SEC in the first place, so they obviously knew of the bonds and that CSHD and Rufus filed them... This isn't a "great" find. It's nothing new to any of us. And RPH already stated that the signatures were forged which is one of the many reasons the SEC has beef with RPH and CSHD.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wait...so all we need is to send the SEC a Double D and all is good?
why? -got'em?.. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WOW sorry guys I went back to searching.
Don't thank me thank the new SEC full text search they installed today. The documents are out there it is just difficult to find them.
For me it is like a kid in a candy store when I find a new search tool.
I think someone ask if I found anything on the Venezelan bonds... nothing concrete yet but I have stumbled over about five other bonds the SEC records online do not go all the way back to 1998 for Venezeula. The S-B that mentions our bond from earlier seems to be about it. (so far)
I will sau UBS Securities and Merril Lynch are going to be mad if the bonds are fake, because they seem pretty readlly mentioned in som of the other bonds from that country.
Any way thanks for all the kudo's just doing what I can with what I got.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
I'm still for this stock to, if I see good news ill buy up again, and i'm crossing my fingers for the 6x shares to be placed in my account, I just don't believe that what Tax found is anything new or of benefit to any of us or the company...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wait...so all we need is to send the SEC a Double D and all is good?
Jessica Simpson is a double "D"....according to her dad (weirdo)....
Posted by jmoe20 on :
We are beating the fact that the bonds are real to death... we KNOW they are real, RPH wouldn't just pull random CUSIP #S and say they are bonds, we just have no proof that we indeed own them..
Posted by Jenna on :
3403- how about a poem?
Posted by Chart walker on :
right, so WHEN is the court ruling due?????
Anyone??????
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Another extension and delay, eh?
I feel like my life is going like Adam Sandler's in the movie "Click".....He keeps wishing for that DAY where he moves ahead in life.......
No CSHD is like that movie GroundHog's Day
Frank - Do you have an image for that?
5 day extension??? (From Groundhog Day)
Posted by CRab on :
Having read all of the Bond and Euroclear docs on the supreme court website...what would constitute proof at this point? Mike swimming in cash like Scrooge McDuck?
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: We are beating the fact that the bonds are real to death... we KNOW they are real, RPH wouldn't just pull random CUSIP #S and say they are bonds, we just have no proof that we indeed own them..
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanx Frank - LOVE IT!!
Posted by luvforever on :
,....~peeking~... well well we will see a 10q they say humffff.. ~LOL~ wake me next week ~LOL Its all good ~LOL
Posted by Chart walker on :
$$$MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION$$$
WHY did Mike NOT go to Europe? We were told he was "on his way."
Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
Posted by Jenna on :
Luv- just curious- are you originally from the U.S., I detect an accent in those posts of yours...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Hi LUV!
Posted by frank021474 on :
luv she thinks everyones italian
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Mike A. and RPH are going to fly out to meet the guys associated with the bonds in another country then stay out there so they can hide out from the SEC and FBI knowing they scammed thousands of people. just my joke of the day " Posted by Jenna on :
Chart - I think that would be the 7 Billion Dollar Question....
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: luv she thinks everyones italian
LMAO!!!!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Good one Jenna! Posted by CRab on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
Maybe he's already done half of that?
Posted by 66inxs on :
good old rufus he ain't no dufus cuz he has screwed all of you-fus
don't get mad no need to vent today you just lost eight percent.
my apologies to 3403
Posted by TexasMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
Maybe he's already done half of that?
Nope!
"(3) Is it anticipated that any significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year will be reflected by the earnings statements to be included in the subject report or portion thereof?
[ ] Yes [X] No"
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: $$$MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION$$$
WHY did Mike NOT go to Europe? We were told he was "on his way."
Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
More like 2 cent question. Do we know for sure he didn't go? Do we know why it was cancelled if he was going? Do we know if he even packed thinking he was going? We were told by the horse that he was on his way next week... but no one has heard it from the horse since, and now we got rumor that he didn't.
Was he ill? Was there a change in plans? Maybe a faster cheaper way to get things done? Maybe there is an SEC request that he doesn't leave the country? I could speculate alllll day.
I think we need more fact before we chase tails.
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wait...so all we need is to send the SEC a Double D and all is good?
Jessica Simpson is a double "D"....according to her dad (weirdo)....
Jenna thanks for that important bit of info. Posted by Chart walker on :
--good points taxback ~ I feel better Posted by Jenna on :
Anytime 6digits, that's what I'm here for....now I will leave & join the human race for a while....bye for now....
I didn't mean that you guys weren't humans oooohhh you know what I meant!!!
Posted by 6digits on :
Facts we need facts. I did'nt see in the court order where we could'nt be given facts by the company. I get pissed when a CEO thinks he's the only one involved or looks like he thinks he is. The independent attitude does'nt go over well with me. A lot of talk as Rufus demonstrates does'nt accomplish much either. That just leaves action as the only remedy. As in actions speak louder than words.
Posted by 6digits on :
bye blondie
Posted by 6digits on :
I'm a gonna go to, I griped enough for a while.
Posted by frank021474 on :
later 6
Posted by 3403 on :
66 that sucks.
I remember the old movies where stocks and bonds were stole the one's who had possession were the one that had the dole
Posted by St. Matthew on :
It just occurred to me that this post from earlier might be misleading. What I meant to convey was that it was most likely a precautionary step taken by CSHD because they are not 100% certain either way about whether they do or don't have to file the 10-Q by the November 15th deadline while they are trading on the grey market.
I think they are just covering their azz because of the way the court date went down on the 7th where they were told (by the SEC?) that they did not have to be in court and then the SEC met with the Judge in his quarters without anyone from CSHD present.
Fool me once, shame on you…Fool me twice, shame on me.
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Nope...just in case...strictly precautionary.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Extension filed on time- is that redundant?
Bonds like stocks are traded continuously. They have the name of the originator only. The one with possession owns them. Now there is a record of who has possession at any given time. IMHO
Posted by wv1973 on :
jmoe
Do not arouse the wrath.... ...of the Great and Powerful Rufus! I said -- come back tomorrow!
jmoe: If you were really great and powerful, you'd keep your promises!
Do you presume to criticize the.... Great Rufus? You ungrateful creature!
Think yourself lucky that I'm giving you audience tomorrow, instead of twenty years from now. Oh -- oh oh! The Great Rufus has spoken! Oh -- Oh ---....
... Oh .... Oh ....Oh - I - Pay no....
...attention to that man behind the curtain, it's just Ben. Go - before I lose my temper! The Great and Powerful Rufus has spoken---....
Posted by GreenDay on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Matthew: [QB] It just occurred to me that this post from earlier might be misleading. What I meant to convey was that it was most likely a precautionary step taken by CSHD because they are not 100% certain either way about whether they do or don't have to file the 10-Q by the November 15th deadline while they are trading on the grey market.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Matthew: [qb] Nope...just in case...strictly precautionary.
Matt - are you saying you still think they plan to file by tomorrow?
Posted by 66inxs on :
you are exactly right 3403 that poem sucked big time. this whole situation sucks and there seems to be no end to it and the delay tactics and the lack of information from the company. all of this could have been prevented last month imho. now it is probably too late and the price has to be paid. i never expected it would ever get to this.
Posted by Doniboy on :
yawn
Posted by 66inxs on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: jmoe
Do not arouse the wrath.... ...of the Great and Powerful Rufus! I said -- come back tomorrow!
jmoe: If you were really great and powerful, you'd keep your promises!
Do you presume to criticize the.... Great Rufus? You ungrateful creature!
Think yourself lucky that I'm giving you audience tomorrow, instead of twenty years from now. Oh -- oh oh! The Great Rufus has spoken! Oh -- Oh ---....
... Oh .... Oh ....Oh - I - Pay no....
...attention to that man behind the curtain, it's just Ben. Go - before I lose my temper! The Great and Powerful Rufus has spoken---....
too funny wv1973. great analogy!
Posted by GreenDay on :
HOLY whole lot of 4 Letter words!!!!!YIkes I just openned my Scottrade account and looked at my account value for the first time since we opened on the grey's. I have been staying away from that account but could't resist today.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I doubt it...I think they just don't want to get in trouble by the SEC for not filing the extension...even though they are on the grey market. It has been rumored that while on the grey market they do not have to meet the same filing requirements that they do on the OTC. I have not heard a definitive answer on this.
On the flip side, it would be great if they expect to be uplisted in the next few days and want to have the extension filed so they would have until next week to file the 10-Q.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: [QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Matthew: [QB] It just occurred to me that this post from earlier might be misleading. What I meant to convey was that it was most likely a precautionary step taken by CSHD because they are not 100% certain either way about whether they do or don't have to file the 10-Q by the November 15th deadline while they are trading on the grey market.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Matthew: [qb] Nope...just in case...strictly precautionary.
Matt - are you saying you still think they plan to file by tomorrow?
Posted by Doniboy on :
Is this our Boy?
Mike Alexander is the author of four books: (2000) Stock Cycles: Why stocks wont beat money market over the next 20 years; (2002) The Kondratiev Cycle: A generational interpretation; (2003) Retiring Rich: The ultimate IRA and 401(k) investing guide (now available in paperback under the title Investing in a Secular Bear Market) and (2004) Cycles in American Politics: How political, economic and cultural trends have shaped the nation.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Donniboy...getting any sleep yet? How is the baby?
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: yawn
Posted by Doniboy on :
The baby is great St Matt. She was just baptized on Sunday. Had a great day. Thanks for asking.
Oh BTW, I am sleeping better than my wife is Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: The baby is great St Matt. She was just baptized on Sunday. Had a great day. Thanks for asking.
Oh BTW, I am sleeping better than my wife is
The nature of the beast...it's actually easier to get up with them when they are young because your body naturally gets used to it. Now, once they get to be older and sleep through the night most of the time, and THEN they decide to wake up every two hours...THAT is killer. Take extra pity on your wife....
Posted by Doniboy on :
Most people pity my wife SherriT, after they find out that she has to put up with me... Posted by wv1973 on :
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Doni,
That’s great to hear. Congrats on the Baptism. I hope she / you received lots of presents and / or money.
My little cherub turned 8 months old last week…still not sleeping through the night. The last 2 nights have been really hard because she has contracted the crud from daycare. Apparently, she was exposed to both a cold and the flu at the same time…so she has both. Poor thing can’t breath and she is running anywhere from 100-105 temperature since Sunday. We got her on antibiotics yesterday. I’m hoping she feels better by the time I get home.
Take care all…got to go get the little swimmer.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
Posted by thecon00 on :
this being the case i may have misunderstood at some point.
if the bonds had the higher value since 2003? should that have been the amount that was PR'ed initially. I seem to remember the first PR on this bond talking about $500m then a later PR correcting/ adding to the now larger sum $753m. Does it seem odd that CSHD wouldn't know the amount they owned of this bond? (just thinking out loud). If the updated PR was for $252.8 million i find that a little odd.
What to you all think????????????????????????????????????????
fhalyesss Member
posted November 14, 2006 08:36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good post from HSM:
Most webs sites only have the original issue amount: 500 million. The principal amount was increased to 753 million three years ago.
Here's the story of these bonds according to an SEC filing for the government of Venezuela and I quote: U.S.$500 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes was issued initially for cash in August 1998. In connection with the BANDES Exchange, 2003 the Republic issued an additional U.S.$252.8 million in aggregate principal amount of these notes, which form a single series with the U.S.$500 of these notes issued in 1998."
To verify this for yourself: 1. go to www.secinfo.com 2. Enter in the search box the Accession Number: 950133-4-398 3. To quickly find page 116, search in your browser for 252.8
You will see this footnote refers to the 13 5/8 bonds of Aug 2018 the bonds in question
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Something doesn't smell right with Frank Cristiano's Declaration...
I am going to try and contact a Fund Manager At FMR.
This isn't the only thing that is fishy... but it is one example.
quote: I am Vice-President for Performance Attribution for Fidelity Management & Research Company ("FMR Co "), a wholly-owned subsidiary of FMR Corp The address and telephone number of my office are : One Federal Street, ElOE, Boston, MA, 02110, 617-563-3537.
From the prospectus for the FMR "New Markets Income Fund"
quote: The address of FMR and its affiliates, unless otherwise indicated below, is 82 Devonshire Street, Boston, Massachusetts 02109.
Posted by 3403 on :
When this is all over, who will I write poems for?
Posted by CRab on :
Wealthy folks...
Night ya'll...
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: The baby is great St Matt. She was just baptized on Sunday. Had a great day. Thanks for asking.
Oh BTW, I am sleeping better than my wife is
Congrats!
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney:
quote:Originally posted by CRab:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
Maybe he's already done half of that?
Nope!
"(3) Is it anticipated that any significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year will be reflected by the earnings statements to be included in the subject report or portion thereof?
[ ] Yes [X] No"
Looks like that $4 billion credit line isn't going to be in there.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
forget the last post I have alot more looking to do.... Who is Frank? HA HA!!
Posted by luvforever on :
Jenna sorry left for awhile and no I live 45 minutes away from ya medina ~LOL originally from pa ~LOL wanted to go south or back out west but made a wrong turn!! ~LOL
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I like this part... All funds received by Conversion Solutions, Inc. under this Agreement shall become the exclusive property of Conversion Solutions, Inc. and remain a part of Conversion Solutions, Inc.'s general account without any duty or requirement of segregation or separate investment.
Read what it is placed in in Exhibit A
Things put in an irrevocable trust become the property of the trust...irrevocably...lol...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Tax, do you see the Venezuela bond anywhere?
If you will follow the link from earlier it leads to the prospectus of the venez. bonds. The prospectus states that no one can have their names assigned to the bond(s) directly. That means they must be have proof that ownership has been transferred and have access codes for euroclear.
This is exactly what Rufus said happened.
Dont forget the information found in the last 2 links to the humanitarian bond was filed in an 8-k.
Your brain is simply huge...Duct Tape Please!
Posted by dollar13 on :
the good guys are getting banned, that is not Posted by St. Matthew on :
Tex...Uncle Rudy,
I post this with all due respect.
I have talked to Tut several times. He is a middle aged gentleman who is extremely intelligent, friendly and informed. He has been CEO of a couple of companies in his lifetime. He is extremely careful about what information he passes on to me and what he keeps to himself. He has NEVER compromised himself by passing any information that could be construed as “insider information”. Believe me…I have formulated my questions in a manner that would have made it very easy for an amateur to stumble or exaggerate in their response.
Through the DD he and his partners perform, he is extremely confident about the outcome of this situation. IMHO he knows way more than you can imagine. He just can't divulge all of his info until it happens or until the company puts out a PR. It is also my opinion that he knows a lot about this stock from the outside looking in. What I mean is...he knows international business and he knows bond trading for the use in which CSHD intends to use them. Perhaps, he knows the likes of which CSHD has contracted with in Europe and / or the Middle East. He knows the potential of this type of business.
There are many people who are “in-the-know” about this company who support Tut 100%. As a matter of fact, Rufus stated on SPR last week that Tut was right about 99% of the time and that we should “listen to him”.
I totally agree with Port…there are times when I wish Tut would not post just for the sake of posting. I get tired of the hype and then the predictions are not being met. This should be proof that he is not an insider. You have to understand how much he wants this to happen for the shareholders…problem comes when the guys over at HSM start egging him on for a post every day at about 3-4 in the afternoon. He feels that he is obligated at this point for fear of shareholders losing faith. We do need every shareholder we can get to hold strong at this point.
Look, you can have your opinion about him, me, or whoever you want on this and the other boards, but please don’t pass / spread judgment until you have met the person you are complaining about. You just might be surprised.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Bonds like stocks are traded continuously. They have the name of the originator only. The one with possession owns them. Now there is a record of who has possession at any given time. IMHO
Not entirely true.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: you are exactly right 3403 that poem sucked big time. this whole situation sucks and there seems to be no end to it and the delay tactics and the lack of information from the company. all of this could have been prevented last month imho. now it is probably too late and the price has to be paid. i never expected it would ever get to this.
I am sorry but you have no concept of what you speak.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
thanks for your post St. Matt!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
Now now Tex...I am not so easily baited.
He has been on SPR more than once. Once with RPH, Sabra and MA. You can check the SPR archives...but I do not recall the date. I would truly like to share more...but I cannot.
No more for you tonight. Posted by portman on :
OOhhhh St. Matt....you take away all my fun with Tex!....lolololololololololololololololol...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Yes, St Matt thanks for the post.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: you are exactly right 3403 that poem sucked big time. this whole situation sucks and there seems to be no end to it and the delay tactics and the lack of information from the company. all of this could have been prevented last month imho. now it is probably too late and the price has to be paid. i never expected it would ever get to this.
I am sorry but you have no concept of what you speak.
OK, all caught up...I am editing this so I can add more.
I thought the poem was funny...
I have told you many times your hand would no longer be held by PR's and other information.
Based on the time the new Regime has been in place and the monumental task they are tasked with I am very impressed. Silence is required.
If you run at a mouth long enough you will slip up.
Silence and caution may upset some investors. Those who are already confident will choose to let the company do what it has to do and get out of the way. It is not like some pennies where you call and call and call and there is no one there. Or send email to no reply or get an auto reply.
MA will be in the country were he is most needed to protect our investment. He has his own investment AND the added risk of the SEC issue. Sarbanes Oxley makes officers of a company personally responsible for corporate actions. Based on that why would anyone walk into a hostile and risky situation like that? Except if they thought they could truly protect their own investment and that of the shareholders.
I expect MA to be cautious, quiet and nearly invisible to us. My investment is a higher priority than knowing anything.
Posted by 66inxs on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: you are exactly right 3403 that poem sucked big time. this whole situation sucks and there seems to be no end to it and the delay tactics and the lack of information from the company. all of this could have been prevented last month imho. now it is probably too late and the price has to be paid. i never expected it would ever get to this.
I am sorry but you have no concept of what you speak.
portman your last post makes a lot of sense to me. i also don't see where MA would want to put everything he has in danger. maybe he CAN pull this out of the toilet. i would certainly respect him for acheiving that. but right now it really looks bad for the home team and no one has done anything to inspire confidence. definitely a daunting task with major hurdles to surpass, not for the weak.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: HA HA!! New SEC search is a great thing... how many have seen this?
Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 59 I will say this again, and I hope you as shareholders will act on it. You must understand how powerful a federal judge is. It is imperative for the shareholders to have him as an ally. For your sake you must use your collective efforts to expose the fraud that has been perpetrated towards all of you and seek restitution. Millions were lost on behalf of the SEC's baseless accusations and their retarted efforts to discredit the company.
If you can prove the judge that you as shareholder's were able to find the validity of the bonds yourselves based on your dd I have no doubt the judge will grant you restitution in some form of way. As shareholders you must protect your investments as they represent your livelihood. Alot is at stake and you must press your problems and concerns to the judge and let him know how you feel so he can grasp the urgency to correct the harm done to you. I urge all of you to take a stance together as one, and fight for what is rightfully yours.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Tex...Uncle Rudy,
I post this with all due respect.
I have talked to Tut several times. He is a middle aged gentleman who is extremely intelligent, friendly and informed. He has been CEO of a couple of companies in his lifetime. He is extremely careful about what information he passes on to me and what he keeps to himself. He has NEVER compromised himself by passing any information that could be construed as “insider information”. Believe me…I have formulated my questions in a manner that would have made it very easy for an amateur to stumble or exaggerate in their response.
Through the DD he and his partners perform, he is extremely confident about the outcome of this situation. IMHO he knows way more than you can imagine. He just can't divulge all of his info until it happens or until the company puts out a PR. It is also my opinion that he knows a lot about this stock from the outside looking in. What I mean is...he knows international business and he knows bond trading for the use in which CSHD intends to use them. Perhaps, he knows the likes of which CSHD has contracted with in Europe and / or the Middle East. He knows the potential of this type of business.
There are many people who are “in-the-know” about this company who support Tut 100%. As a matter of fact, Rufus stated on SPR last week that Tut was right about 99% of the time and that we should “listen to him”.
I totally agree with Port…there are times when I wish Tut would not post just for the sake of posting. I get tired of the hype and then the predictions are not being met. This should be proof that he is not an insider. You have to understand how much he wants this to happen for the shareholders…problem comes when the guys over at HSM start egging him on for a post every day at about 3-4 in the afternoon. He feels that he is obligated at this point for fear of shareholders losing faith. We do need every shareholder we can get to hold strong at this point.
Look, you can have your opinion about him, me, or whoever you want on this and the other boards, but please don’t pass / spread judgment until you have met the person you are complaining about. You just might be surprised.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
lol, "passed judgment" ?
No matter "who" Tut "really is," his/her posts read like a college kid's...at least, those I have read.
As far as "rallying the troops," I think that's a bunch of hooie...as the thread-title implies, DD and news are far more valuable than the "Bow before me" ramblings I've seen...
Portman said he had facts, so I asked...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
Now now Tex...I am not so easily baited.
He has been on SPR more than once. Once with RPH, Sabra and MA. You can check the SPR archives...but I do not recall the date. I would truly like to share more...but I cannot.
No more for you tonight.
baited?
geez...you posted you had facts... Posted by 66inxs on :
Is it anticipated that any significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year will be reflected by the earnings statements to be included in the subject report or portion thereof?
[ ] Yes [X] No
trying to add something constructive to the discussion. does the corresponding period for the lasr fiscal year mean from 7/1/05 to 9/30/05? wasn't there a large loss during that period last year or am i wrong again?
Posted by 3403 on :
Another day gone and nothing accomplished....
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I got banned from HSM today
you gotta be kidding me ,LOL
you and PORTMAN Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I got banned from HSM today
you gotta be kidding me ,LOL
you and PORTMAN
I got it because I said GBDX was a scam
even though I have $5,000 invested in an average of .03 LOL
Posted by dollar13 on :
my bad portman you said you were banned from HSM before right?
I TAKE THAT BACK
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
BUMP!!!!!!! \
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Is it confirmed that Rufus's senior citizen mother was posting on HSM today?
lol
Posted by 3403 on :
A short time ago we all loved Rufus, now we hate his mother? Fickle people.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: A short time ago we all loved Rufus, now we hate his mother? Fickle people.
What are you talking about????
Go to your room!!!
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: right, so WHEN is the court ruling due?????
Anyone??????
I don't think anyone knows this at this time. If they do, they sure haven't shared. From what Rufus said, the SEC didn't know. I wouldn't have thought it was up to the SEC though. Either way, I need to know so I can schedule that day off!
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Why not just draw from them and start funding subs?...............
Maybe he's already done half of that?
Anyone know how long you can wait to file an 8K after an event takes place?
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Nope!
"(3) Is it anticipated that any significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year will be reflected by the earnings statements to be included in the subject report or portion thereof?
[ ] Yes [X] No"
This still seems weird. There have been all kinds of significant changes...right? I hope I just don't understand this one...anyone want to splain it to me?
Posted by milliam on :
The amendments also shorten the Form 8-K filing deadline for most items to four business days after the occurrence of an event triggering the disclosure requirements of the form.
I guess its 4 business days from the event. FWIW.
Posted by GreenDay on :
are we aware of any significant (financial) changes? I know we were ordered to file an ammended 10k asap - but we don't know which part is to be ammended - do we?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So why did we start a new thread? Just wondering...
Oh yah, and for those who don't know my feelings about Tut,
F him in his stupid anonymous, vague, never going to tell you anything of any worth A-hole. I hate that guy, especially now that he is talking down to us. Put out or shut up!!!
Bob asked for the new thread.
Tut? college kid in my opinion...I figger he piggy-backed on the play for his own amusement.
my 2 cents...
Not often I get to tell you that you are wrong.
I do not hang on his every word but Tut does know things...just not everything. Oh, and Yes...Tex I know factualy your assumption is wrong.
well, as posted elsewhere, I haven't seen nearly as many posts as some have...but in those I *have* read, the tone strikes me as collegiate, frat-boyish...
Anyway...so what's the "facts" ?
repost for da Portman...
Now now Tex...I am not so easily baited.
He has been on SPR more than once. Once with RPH, Sabra and MA. You can check the SPR archives...but I do not recall the date. I would truly like to share more...but I cannot.
No more for you tonight.
baited?
geez...you posted you had facts...
And you are posting an opinion of another persons post. Tut is in his 50's. You, I doubt past your 30's. But I am basing my opinion of you based on your posts as well. Kind of frat assish.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I got it because I said GBDX was a scam
even though I have $5,000 invested in an average of .03 LOL
GBDX is a scam and yes I'm down about $800.00 in that POS too .
As for HSM , they are just a bunch of pumpers . I got banned permantly for telling the mod to go fVck off for banning me the 1st time because if CSHD and stupid a$$ tut .
Posted by GreenDay on :
"operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year will be reflected by the earnings statements"
I don't feel like going back to the 10k right now, but I don't think there was much there on the earnings statements.
Posted by GreenDay on :
I hear crickets, that means bed time for me. Nite Nite all. Behave.
Posted by milliam on :
Earnings...I guess that is the key there. Thanks GreenDay.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
What bug me is, the site hasnt really changed since the LOI was signed back in June.
Im headed off to watch House M.D. Let me know if anyone can dissect the site. My reasoning? These guys were supposed to be holding the contract for the log deal but there doesnt seem to be much to them as a company. They seem to be fairly "new" as of May or June. Also, as TheCon and I pointed out the other day, they are sort of affiliated with Tensor information Systems (through Travis something? help me there Con) which happens to be a company Randy Mosely was once CEO of.
This could be a good one i suppose because Mike claimed to have solid contacts in Brazil for years but if thats the case then why is CEOTA such a mystery?
Im putting together a "who's who" list and will hopefully have something by this weekend. It may be too late by then but i like seeing things in black and white where i can better dissect them.
Gnight folks
Posted by thecon00 on :
thecon00 Member
Member Rated:
posted November 10, 2006 13:50 ________________________________________ CAT –
Since im around today for once, and sorry I didn’t notice whether or not we but our findings out there for anyone to dissect, BB, Tax…
Some things we know going way back to the beginning:
Timeline: 2001 "Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA". – per RPH Travis TeSelle CEOTA Management Team Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc.- Per and email sent to me. CEOTA Fort Worth, Texas
2001 Tensor Information Systems, Inc. (Tensor is headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas) Travis TeSelle CEO, and Randy Moseley served as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Tensor Information Systems, Inc., a custom software development company based in Fort Worth, Texas from November 1999 - June 2001(TeSelle Still there).
"Mr. Alexander was hired by SAP to be the Americas Customer support services Webmaster for the company’s largest initiative in history, mySAP.com."
RPH stated that it was “right place right time” for CSHD to find/merge with FHAL. Many on this board have had the feeling this was in place long before that. I would rather not let this one drop. I may ask Dimension from IHub, I know; IHub, if he would give us some names involved in the BBan situation.
I’m really looking to bridge the gap between Tensor/CEOTA, to BBAN, to FHAL, to CSHD.
CAT, to you remember in on of the interviews RPH originally thought when the log deal wasn’t what it first appeared to be he thought some members of FHAL/furia might have been connected to BBAN. I lost my stomach at that comment but kind of forgot about it when everything seemed to be working out.
Many my think this is a dead end but at least Cat and I will stay with it and help would be appreciated. Like I said I would like to know if anyone can throw some other names in the mix, BBan or otherwise.
Thanks in advance CON
Posted by a surfer on :
rufus is on SPR*!!
Posted by thecon00 on :
im still with ya on this one cat. Would not be at all surprised if we end up with something major from this piece to the puzzle!!!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
FWIW..........rufus on SPR.....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: And you are posting an opinion of another persons post. Tut is in his 50's. You, I doubt past your 30's. But I am basing my opinion of you based on your posts as well. Kind of frat assish.
Actually I think that Tex and Tut are about the same age... AND? c'mon guys...let's cool it... Tut doesn't even post here...and the only thing that Tex was attempting to point out was that port used the "fact" statement...and Tex...being the reporter that he is...was hunting for a link...it's his way... Let's all go back to the better point of today...
We have a filing from the company...which is a postive light in these dark times... I like TAX's thought of if this doesn't go by the end of December..he will sell out...take a huge capital gains loss and buy back in after the first of the year... Always have a game plan... Posted by 10of13 on :
Can you post what is said? please?
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: rufus is on SPR*!!
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Not alot at a moment, just laughing and going!
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
I think he just said:
"he-he"
Posted by frank021474 on :
listening to RPH on SRP= worth the price of admission lol
Posted by a surfer on :
10 you have mail! ....))))
Posted by 3403 on :
keep us informed okay?
Posted by frank021474 on :
Everytime I hear RPH on SPR I think I end up with thinking that I will hold CSHD longer than any other normal stock play LOL
End up like this:
Posted by unclerudy on :
St. Matt,
Thanks for giving me your opinion of Tut, and everyone elses thoughts on him. I was just a little angry reading another post of his. If he has more than 10% of the company that he owns, and is then an insider, I will understand if he doesn't want to make comments concerning the company. But if he is not, then how exactly can he be giving out inside information, unless one of the insiders are giving it to him? And if you have so much respect for the man's opinion and thoughts and knowledge, then tell me why I should have the same feelings as you.
There is only one thing that will completely legitimize any of the things that he has ever said or will say in the future. One thing.
His name.
Until I know WHO he is, he is just some random guy on the internet, posting his thoughts and stringing us along, and laughing while he watches everyone hanging on his words. I just want to know what I need to do to sign up for my secret decoder ring, so that I can get the same information that seems to have a couple others convinced that Tut is the real deal.
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone here on the board. I am just not buying into anything he says until I have some proof. And my earlier comment that started this whole discussion was just me venting after just waking up and being frustrated at the whole situation. I just want wholesome DD to disect, not empty promises.
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: And you are posting an opinion of another persons post. Tut is in his 50's. You, I doubt past your 30's. But I am basing my opinion of you based on your posts as well. Kind of frat assish.
Actually I think that Tex and Tut are about the same age... AND? c'mon guys...let's cool it... Tut doesn't even post here...and the only thing that Tex was attempting to point out was that port used the "fact" statement...and Tex...being the reporter that he is...was hunting for a link...it's his way... Let's all go back to the better point of today...
We have a filing from the company...which is a postive light in these dark times... I like TAX's thought of if this doesn't go by the end of December..he will sell out...take a huge capital gains loss and buy back in after the first of the year... Always have a game plan...
It's a good game plan. I just keep wondering - if this 6 to 1 does pay out at some point - will it only be to those who currently STILL own the same shares they did on 10/16. I gotta think - if you sell you miss out on the freebies.
I was going to bed until Rufus came on, now I back hooked. I hate getting up at 5am!
Posted by GreenDay on :
The are discussing "if" the SEC or Mike has the ability to undo anything with the merger
simon - is there anyway possible for the merger to be undone
rufus - no sir....it was done when cvsu went off the board, that was the completion of the merger.
simon - what about those that saying "what about the filing that's were never filed"=merger docs
asking for s3 and s4 info..
Posted by a surfer on :
Green Day IM subpennyradio and show him the stuff Taxback brought up earlier.
My IM is F###ed up
Posted by TimW on :
Anyway to listen without being on SPR? Anyone rebroadcasting it on IM's or anything?
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: HA HA!! New SEC search is a great thing... how many have seen this?
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Green Day IM subpennyradio and show him the stuff Taxback brought up earlier.
My IM is F###ed up
I im him that and the links 2ominutes ago!
hope he asks it soon Posted by fhalyesss on :
asking now!
Posted by a surfer on :
good job!! I didn't figure he knew about this.
I e-mailed rufus the links personally.
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Anyway to listen without being on SPR? Anyone rebroadcasting it on IM's or anything?
While it is illegal to do so.. I'm sure someone is recording the conversation and will probably post a link to it later....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
he liked my question ...hahaha
Posted by Spooky on :
Props on the Q driver
Posted by driver4t4 on :
just in case anyone is curious on the question here it is.. simon, can you ask rufus, first off we know he is not related to cshd per say, but according to his DD on the company does he consider cshd a "BUY" right now, and will we have a mery christmas?? according to his own due diligence.... thanks
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: 10 you have mail! ....))))
Very kind...thank you! And your mail box is full... Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: just in case anyone is curious on the question here it is.. simon, can you ask rufus, first off we know he is not related to cshd per say, but according to his DD on the company does he consider cshd a "BUY" right now, and will we have a mery christmas?? according to his own due diligence.... thanks
What was the answer?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Rufus sounds depressed...
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: just in case anyone is curious on the question here it is.. simon, can you ask rufus, first off we know he is not related to cshd per say, but according to his DD on the company does he consider cshd a "BUY" right now, and will we have a mery christmas?? according to his own due diligence.... thanks
And the answer was I have my stocking up!!!
And yes he thinks its a great buy right now.
Posted by 10of13 on :
so the filing is due on the 22nd...
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus sounds depressed...
Yah, something seems wrong with him - I feel he sounds agitated
Posted by driver4t4 on :
uh oh, here comes the trick questions... and the 22nd would put the extension at 7 calender days...hmmm.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Timw you have a PM
Posted by 3403 on :
surfer, give us info. please
Posted by 10of13 on :
5 business days...would be the 22nd
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: uh oh, here comes the trick questions... and the 22nd would put the extension at 7 calender days...hmmm.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
I think he is agitated beacause he cannot give out any information. I do not believe that he does not know what is going on with the company. He is just saying that to not cause anymore trouble to the company. He did not come on tonight to answer questions, i think it was more of a case of, showing people he has not left the country.
Posted by a surfer on :
I think he actually sounds tired. Remember the guy only sleeps 2-4 hours a night.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I do hear a good change in the RPH appearance with SPR. He is definately abiding by some sort of guidlines which is GOOD!
Posted by frank021474 on :
34- you have a PM
Posted by Spooky on :
He was also pretty agitated about people posting some crud about his daughter. Not to mention the typical Rufus slamming going on all the time.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
right, for some reason i was thinking 5 calender days from tomorrow..
Posted by 10of13 on :
this is from the filing...
(b) The subject annualreport, semi-annual report, transition report on Form 10-K, Form 20-F, 11-K orForm N-SAR, or portion thereof will be filed on or before the fifteenth calendarday following the prescribed due date; or the subject quarterly report ortransition report on Form 10-Q, or portion thereof will be filed on or beforethe fifth calendar day following the prescribed due date; and
Posted by 10of13 on :
isn't Anthony "Tanks"?
Posted by GreenDay on :
I'm about to go to bed. Anyone want me to IM anythinhg else to Simon before I go?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Ask him if he knows the actual filing date for this 10Q?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I'm about to go to bed. Anyone want me to IM anythinhg else to Simon before I go?
Posted by GreenDay on :
ok 10 - questions sent
Posted by frank021474 on :
I believe its 5 business days- trying to find it on the SEC or OTC site now....which means the 22nd
Posted by 10of13 on :
Frank I posted it from the filing...it states 5 calendar days..that would be the 20th
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thanks 10-
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: And you are posting an opinion of another persons post. Tut is in his 50's. You, I doubt past your 30's. But I am basing my opinion of you based on your posts as well. Kind of frat assish.
Actually I think that Tex and Tut are about the same age... AND? c'mon guys...let's cool it... Tut doesn't even post here...and the only thing that Tex was attempting to point out was that port used the "fact" statement...and Tex...being the reporter that he is...was hunting for a link...it's his way... Let's all go back to the better point of today...
We have a filing from the company...which is a postive light in these dark times... I like TAX's thought of if this doesn't go by the end of December..he will sell out...take a huge capital gains loss and buy back in after the first of the year... Always have a game plan...
wheee... wish ol' sceptor was more accurate about my age...
yup, 10 of Mediation posts well... Sceptor, apparently you aren't familiar with my background...
anyway, yes, this lil sidenote has taken on a life of its own, beyond any relevancy. From simple curiousity, I asked about Portman's post. As far as relevancy to the "big picture" I see none.
Yes, 10, the filing: from what I can see *so far* it resets the clock to last year.
Posted by a surfer on :
ooooooo 10 of 13 are you a treky???
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Wow its like allstocks question night tonight! Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Rufus got a kick out of "10 of 13" apparently based on the "7 or 9" from Star Trek.....or something. He was kind of hard to follow.
Then a discusion about it hehe. It almost sounded like Rufus was digging in like it meant something. Portman set him straight about the large family 10 has. 10, you are famous now. heh
Posted by a surfer on :
rufus is checking Taxbacks Links!!!!!!!! LOL
Posted by MTPromises on :
boy, it's Allstock night on SPR!
Posted by portman on :
I set Simon straight for ya 10.
Posted by a surfer on :
10th of 13 kids Holy crap!
Posted by fhalyesss on :
10, spooky, diver, tax, me and portman now!!!! Posted by GreenDay on :
Sorry - 10of13 - I just cut and pasted your questions. I didn't know it was gonna start a StarTrek debate. Well Simon knows your name know if he didn't already.
Posted by Spooky on :
You will be assimilated.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wow...thanks green day...LOL...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
He started my question and then got side tracked... read the first sentence and did not get to the actual question.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I set Simon straight for ya 10.
So kind port...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, gnight folkd. Hopefully i can catch the recap in the morning.
I had so many little questions i wanted to throw out to Mr Harris but now im sleepy and my memory is pooh poohed
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Goodnight Cat, sleep well.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sleep tight CAT! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Also sent a correction to Anthony's humanitarian question. That info I posted today was not NEW it was just found today because of the new SEC search tool.
Posted by Igor R on :
So, anything meaty from Rufus tonight?
Posted by portman on :
And for the record...I like Tex a lot.
But I am giving no links Posted by 10of13 on :
Mike and Company are simply going through everything to get a comfort level and make sure they know what they are dealing with...
Posted by Spooky on :
Nice you get a fraud everything again!!! a fraud!! This is like a freaking comedy show... This is by far one of the worst companies i've ever invested in... Thank God he's back though at least I have some shot now at getting the 6 for 1 shares he promised me... So glad im out of this stock... you guys are just seeing the beginning this type of sh!t has been happening the past 4 months. I don't care if they come out with a pr stating they have 7 trillion dollars in bonds this company is still a joke.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Who needs Cable TV...I have CSHD! Un Flippin Real!
he wasn't depressed...he was trying to hold back from blabbing his mouth about this...
Posted by ruiz5 on :
This stock is crazy but I love it! I love having rufus back. So anyone care to to tell me what the strategy behind that move was? Hand to company over to MA and then couple of weeks later take it back?
Posted by djg7 on :
WTF Rufus is back? That ought to sit well with the SEC. It's all or nothing now.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I would never have believed it if I had not heard it! This is awesome. Best stock ever. HA!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OTCBB: CSHD???? Really? we will see
Posted by 10of13 on :
is Rufus implying that we will have an MM tomorrow... edit...it's his first priority
Posted by Doniboy on :
LMFAO
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Rufus says his first priority is getting back to OTCBB
Posted by jmoe20 on :
His first priority should be staying out of jail.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Simon sounds like he's high "this is craaazy stuff man".
Posted by driver4t4 on :
my gosh, I can not wait for this movie. LOL
Posted by MTPromises on :
With Rufus back, I'm not following why Alexander was brought in.
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: His first priority should be staying out of jail.
and yours should be to leave the thread Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: His first priority should be staying out of jail.
dude, you are negative... LOL
Posted by Doniboy on :
OK people, can I get a "WTF"!!!!!!!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
"WTF"
Posted by djg7 on :
I think Alexander was brought in to take the heat off Rufus for a few weeks and verify the bonds. We all hope tha this ends up that Rufus has the SEC by the kudats.
Posted by Igor R on :
What did he say about the market makers? I missed that part.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Also sent a correction to Anthony's humanitarian question. That info I posted today was not NEW it was just found today because of the new SEC search tool.
That information was filed in an 8K long ago. It's been there all along.
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: With Rufus back, I'm not following why Alexander was brought in.
As the majority shareholder, Mike Alexander stepped in to insure that a fruad was not being committed. Now after having done his DD he is satisfied and has turned the company back over to Rufus and company.
GLTA Wally
Posted by 3403 on :
Supposedly Mike A. had been convinced bonds were all there through what ever methods he used and turned it back over to RPH.
Posted by Doniboy on :
does anyone have the backdoor subpenny radio link that I posted about a month ago?
Posted by trade04 on :
well i saw these "annex" bond paper, both said 750 million...wheres the proof of the 4 billion?
Posted by 3403 on :
They don't seem to be asking very pertinant questions
Posted by minkybodl on :
i tried it doni they are speaking spanish
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
<car tire screech>... umm....say what?? Posted by 10of13 on :
That's my thought also Wally...as well as my hope!
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: With Rufus back, I'm not following why Alexander was brought in.
As the majority shareholder, Mike Alexander stepped in to insure that a fruad was not being committed. Now after having done his DD he is satisfied and has turned the company back over to Rufus and company.
GLTA Wally
Posted by Doniboy on :
Can you please post it anyway?
quote:Originally posted by minkybodl: i tried it doni they are speaking spanish
Posted by 3403 on :
Rufus says this is chapter 5 of eight chapter book. Shareholder committee back on.
Posted by trade04 on :
lol the CEO is back...man this is one funny story im telling you this is a blockbuster waiting to happen..
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Rufus says this is chapter 5 of eight chapter book. Shareholder committee back on.
good lord, is he talking on SPR again?? someone pull the plug before he gets himself in trouble...welcome back RPH!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: With Rufus back, I'm not following why Alexander was brought in.
As the majority shareholder, Mike Alexander stepped in to insure that a fruad was not being committed. Now after having done his DD he is satisfied and has turned the company back over to Rufus and company.
GLTA Wally
Thanks, Wally. That makes sense.
Posted by Doniboy on :
We need a play by play. wake up Jenna....
Posted by minkybodl on :
i have it as a windows media player playlist but its a different station playing now
Posted by 3403 on :
He is taking questions from James who helped put together the committee.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Rufus has asked that James head the shareholders committee
Posted by djg7 on :
My blood pressure is throught the roof again and I wouldn't want ot any other way at this point. This is the best roller coaster ride of all time. LMAO
Posted by JHenry on :
I like it! Rufus must be in the clear from the SEC. I wouldn't mind if he kept a slightly lower profile than he did before. Let's get back to whacking shorty.
PR's coming soon. Says we will need a suit and tie soon as a CEO, no cowboy hat type.
Posted by Doniboy on :
What are the odds of a low profile? He's on the radio right now LOL
quote:Originally posted by JHenry: I like it! Rufus must be in the clear from the SEC. I wouldn't mind if he kept a slightly lower profile than he did before. Let's get back to whacking shorty.
djg7, now that I'm living in MN, I've been meaning to ask you where you're at?
Posted by 3403 on :
he would stay on as chairman, and isn't going anywhere.
Posted by djg7 on :
JHenry let's not get ahead of ourselves. I don't think the SEC is out of the picture yet.
Posted by MTPromises on :
Rufus said 6 for 1 is still on.
Posted by MTPromises on :
Rufus was asked by James about the SEC status. Rufus stated that he has not spoken with the SEC since his resignation.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Go Rufus you Crazy Son Of A Beotch, We Love ya Baby!!!!!!!!
Posted by a surfer on :
LOL I stepped away for a massage from my wife and RUFUS is back!!!!!
ROFLMAO!!!!! Too Much
Posted by MTPromises on :
Rufus thinks the shorts are probably covered. Did I hear that right?
Posted by 3403 on :
6-1 is still on, and is part of the problems with the SEC. Hasn't spoken to SEC since the injunction. First priority is draw down on the bonds, line of credit 3-5 days.
Posted by 10of13 on :
rufus is going to pull down on the bond...3-5 business days..
Posted by MTPromises on :
Rufus said that drawing down on one of the bonds is a top priority. Takes about 3-5 days.
Posted by trade04 on :
with all this GOOD news we may make a nice little run to .25 cents tomorrow... Posted by djg7 on :
MTPromises, I live in northern MN on the west side of the Iron Range between Hibbing and Grand Rapids. I'm waiting for the lakes to freeze over to go ice fishing.
Posted by JHenry on :
I just think that if Mike went over everything and found all to be legit then things are looking much better to me. If there were issues with the SEC investigation extention and Mike thought there was a chance that Rufus could still be in trouble I don't think he would turn the reigns back over to him at this point. It just makes me feel better about the whole SEC issue.
quote:Originally posted by djg7: JHenry let's not get ahead of ourselves. I don't think the SEC is out of the picture yet.
Posted by a surfer on :
They can Rocket or rock it.
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
The SEC didn't like the 6 to 1 share divy. Too damaging to shorts. Shorts have covered, NOW WE ROCK!!!! IMHO
Posted by frank021474 on :
They went hunting for RPH and.....
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I wonder what Mike A. did with his shares. Do you think he pulled them out of "common" status?
Posted by JHenry on :
I feel like no one will ever stop the naked shorting problem. The shorts are probably what triggered the SEC halt in the fist place. I have always thought the shorts are much larger than the SEC itself and that the SEC is a lap dog for the shorting industry. If the shorts are covered then the SEC will probably get off of CSHD's back and let it continue.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I should have asked do you think he pulled them back to prefered shares?
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I wonder what Mike A. did with his shares. Do you think he pulled them out of "common" status?
Posted by ruiz5 on :
quote:Originally posted by Fredgrasshopper: The SEC didn't like the 6 to 1 share divy. Too damaging to shorts. Shorts have covered, NOW WE ROCK!!!! IMHO
I love how the sec protected the shorts and not the shareholders!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: with all this GOOD news we may make a nice little run to .25 cents tomorrow...
I hope so!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: where's jenna?????????
HOLY CH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I decide to take a night off & I just came to check before I go to bed!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!!
RUFIE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
MM CAN happen very quickly...perhaps after the filings are updated...in order to go to OTC.BB if not jump straight to another meger for a bigger board...
Posted by Doniboy on :
We need a spr play by play babe.....
Posted by djg7 on :
Jenna, He's baaaaaaaack!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
"Crank it up Fellas" ~ Rufus Love it! Can't wait till we get our first MM on the board. Can't wait till we get our new filings. Been in cruise mode and reaching back for the seatbelt, becasue we're gonna get back to where we need to be! Ima
Posted by 10of13 on :
Heading to bed...SLEEP well all... Sufer thank you kind sir!!! Posted by frank021474 on :
RPH mentioned Merger???? Fastrack to Nasdaq??
Wonder if its Netbank?
this is my extreme opinion Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: And for the record...I like Tex a lot.
But I am giving no links
I can always go to the next barbecue...
Posted by 6digits on :
ASK RUF IF HE CAN STOP FIGHTING THE SHORTERS AND MAKE THE SHAREHOLDERS SOME MONEY FOR A CHANGE AGAIN. tHANKS.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is truely unbelievable IMA... it really has fully registered with me just yet.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Jenna, He's baaaaaaaack!
This is GOOD.....THIS IS REAL GOOD!!!!!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I would never have believed it if I had not heard it! This is awesome. Best stock ever. HA!
I'm floored... OMG ~ -gotta have a drink!
Screw it, it was boring without Rufus, damn glad he's back. THAT WOULD explain the extention PREFECTLY to IMO!!!!!
wow ~ -dare we ask what next?!! Posted by 3403 on :
Ask him who TUT is...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Jenna, He's baaaaaaaack!
This is GOOD.....THIS IS REAL GOOD!!!!!
Yes it is Jenna... yes it is.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Can we have a link to the extension?
Posted by ruiz5 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: ASK RUF IF HE CAN STOP FIGHTING THE SHORTERS AND MAKE THE SHAREHOLDERS SOME MONEY FOR A CHANGE AGAIN. tHANKS.
I think shorts covered so now it should be straight business from here on out right?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Honestly I can not believe the low cost of addmission for this show. Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman: And for the record...I like Tex a lot.
But I am giving no links
I can always go to the next barbecue...
LOL and I think you would be more than welcomed. Posted by stocktrader22 on :
$8,000 isnt too low
Posted by Jenna on :
This all makes sense if you really think about it....did he say the shorts have covered? See, everyone's going to be happy...the shorts covered...? So they can stop crying.....we can move on!!!
I am a Rufus LOVER.........
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
Do you guys think that Mike didn't trust his own abilities to understand what the financial shape of the co was for q3... and couldnt bring himself to sign off on it? Just a Q:
Posted by Jenna on :
Rufus: "Just sit back & we'll finish this thing off."
Posted by 3403 on :
Sit back we will fix everything up, says Rufus. It is over for tonight, back on next week.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by ruiz5:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: ASK RUF IF HE CAN STOP FIGHTING THE SHORTERS AND MAKE THE SHAREHOLDERS SOME MONEY FOR A CHANGE AGAIN. tHANKS.
I think shorts covered so now it should be straight business from here on out right?
The volume ratio to the short # would take 30+ days to cover...so not not all shorts covered.
Simon is thinking he is gonna get syndicated following tonight. He is very excited.
Posted by 3403 on :
Well guys, get back on we are going for a ride.................. yipeeeeee
Posted by Jenna on :
Simon's playing "The devil went down to Georgia"....(in this case devil =SEC)
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
WTF...we have a theme song now. I like.
Posted by Jenna on :
I only heard the last half hour but Rufus was different - in a good way - more reserved- more careful- ATTA BOY RUFUS!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Post O the week:
quote: jmoe20
posted November 13, 2006 10:00
Well, as of right now getting out at .55 cents was a gift.
We shall see...
Posted by 6digits on :
RUIZ i GUESS. i'M NOT LISTENING TO THE BROADCAST, BUT i IMAGINE rUFUS IS ON TO PLUG THE pr AND THE RETURN TO THE CEO POSITION..........
Posted by CRab on :
I try to stay away for a night and this...all I can say is...there is no negative connotation here...just bewilderment...
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhttttt...
Posted by driver4t4 on :
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Posted by unclerudy on :
Well... I am happy now that I decided to stay up and play video games before I went to sleep. Hopefully we will get that 10Q that Rufus had up his sleeve since a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Glad about Rufus! Glad that Mike cleared the way for him to come back ... don't think he would be back if ANYTHING was found to be wrong! Glad I'm locked and loaded for tomorrow! Thanks for the info ya'all'! GLTY
Posted by frank021474 on :
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
ive been hearing rumors of an extension filed already for the 10Q can anyone provide a link?
Posted by 6digits on :
lOOK SOMEWHERE ON PAGE 8-10
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: ive been hearing rumors of an extension filed already for the 10Q can anyone provide a link?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I see it as an opportunity to get alot of the old Rufus promises back without waiting for PR's.
A chance not to lose our contracts, and contacts.
Internal vindication of not granted or PR'd by the SEC itself.
Mike did not have to give CSHD back to the old management. He still holds a huge chunk of shares. if it is good for him it should be good for us.
Great play guys! well played indeed.
Posted by thedoctor on :
Now we can have some fun again. Thanks for all of the great DD today people. It helped remind me of all of the good information that everyone came up with over the last several weeks. It is greatly appreciated. Sorry for my down attitude this morning. I know I was an old grouch and it must be caused by old age. But he's back and you guys reminded me of our good DD and I feel rejuvenated. Posted by 6digits on :
Time for bed- See you all in the morning!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
Gotta say goodnight with this! "Welcome back!!!"
Posted by Spooky on :
OK, "someone" apparently just posted a copy of Simon's broadcast out there on the internet. Tsk Tsk Tsk, I tell you it is just terrible the things some people will do these days...
Rufus calls in at about the 12 minute mark I believe.
There are some morally questionable advertisers on that site, so I apologize for directing anyone there who may object to that kind of thing.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Doc, we all get negative when our stock drops 85%, no worries
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Now we can have some fun again. Thanks for all of the great DD today people. It helped remind me of all of the good information that everyone came up with over the last several weeks. It is greatly appreciated. Sorry for my down attitude this morning. I know I was an old grouch and it must be caused by old age. But he's back and you guys reminded me of our good DD and I feel rejuvenated.
Faith my friends...Faith...The path a head may not be easy yet.
I have always told you all the truth...at least from my point of view and opinion.
Enjoy the night.
Posted by cool AZ on :
IMO it's like this: internal audit completed ... Rufus is back ... SEC has the answers in their back pocket ... Let's Roll!!!!
Posted by NEL on :
Unbelieveable, I am speechless. This really is a movie or at least a book in the making!!! Lets see what tomorrow and the next couple of days, weeks bring. Crazy.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Before we celebrate, doesnt Rufus have a TRO and an injuction against him? Can he even be the CEO right now and be speaking out?
Contempt of court? Just wondering, not stating any of this as fact. Just want to know what this means?
Posted by Doniboy on :
We may see zero volume tomorrow. Everyone will be waiting to see what the Rufinator can do..lol.
Posted by minkybodl on :
He said MM would want the answers to the SEC's questions. rufus said after he talked to MM in morning then he would call the SEC,He said they needed to sit down and look at each other.
Posted by Doniboy on :
I am listening to Simon, damn is he boring without Rufus....
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: OK, "someone" apparently just posted a copy of Simon's broadcast out there on the internet. Tsk Tsk Tsk, I tell you it is just terrible the things some people will do these days...
Rufus calls in at about the 12 minute mark I believe.
There are some morally questionable advertisers on that site, so I apologize for directing anyone there who may object to that kind of thing.
Posted by minkybodl on :
rufus also said the first MM could make a killing.
simon- Where will the MM's set the price?
rufus- I dont think that would be wise for me to get into now.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by minkybodl: rufus also said the first MM could make a killing.
simon- Where will the MM's set the price?
rufus- I dont think that would be wise for me to get into now.
at least rufus is learning to shut his mouth
Posted by NEL on :
Good night all...sweet dreams!
Posted by Spooky on :
I'm gonna crash too. See everyone tomorrow.
Posted by klondike on :
Nice to hear some up beat news.
Good luck and good night to all.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Before we celebrate, doesnt Rufus have a TRO and an injuction against him? Can he even be the CEO right now and be speaking out?
Contempt of court? Just wondering, not stating any of this as fact. Just want to know what this means?
The TRO basically says don't break any SEC rules....It's not a GAG order or a you can't be CEO order - It's like a judge telling us Don't murder anybody....Well, DUH, yeah we know that!!!
The TRO the SeC asked for & the TRO that was granted are different as a few poeple on this board have pointed out....Hope that helped... Posted by stocktrader22 on :
How about the injunction jenna?
Posted by Jenna on :
Well, that stated that they can continue to investigate, I think it pertained mostly to the bonds but I'd have to read it again...so what do youthink about this Stocktrader22? Do you like Rufus being back?
Posted by glassman on :
there is a band i like to listen to when i am doing design work... they are: Presidents Of The USA
this song in particular seems apropriate, but? the whole album, Feather Pluckin' Insane
comes to mind now for some reason...
but that's totally but that's totally billions of birdies squawkin' outloud talkin' in code to clams in the clouds they send a secret message and send it by worm so vibratin' spiders will receive the word
but that's totally feather pluckn insane ten million monkeys all pick up guitars but nobody taught them how five thousand fishies rockin' really really really hard nobody taught them how check out chickey drivin' piggy's little blue car nobody taught him how
well flies like to fly 'cuz they don't like to stay buzzin' in the ears of the chicken all day chicken understand and he peck out the code send a subsonic signal through the snot in the middle of an elephant's long wet cold grey nose
but that's totally feather pluckn insane ten million monkeys all pick up guitars nobody taught them how five thousand froggies rockin' really really really hard nobody taught them how check out chickey drivin' piggy's little blue car nobody taught him how
at least we won't be bored for the next week or two
yeah...everybody supernova.... LOL
Posted by Jenna on :
3403 - Where's the Rufus is Back poem? Well, never mind it's too late.....
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Faith my friends...Faith...The path a head may not be easy yet.
I have always told you all the truth...at least from my point of view and opinion.
Enjoy the night.
and the best part we are fixing to kick clbe's azz. Heard they reported a loss and nearly doubled the O/S to pay bills with. What a defensive run they were running in there this afternoon. Attacking people for saying it was bad and everything. Just like it was deemed unallowable.
Posted by Jenna on :
WELL, Good Night my CSHD Family....I know you will all sleep well tonight with smiles on your faces......our leader is back ...everything is right with the world tonight.....
May you have.....
************************************************* Champagne Wishes & Cavair Dreams!!!!!!!!!!! *************************************************
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by minkybodl: rufus also said the first MM could make a killing.
simon- Where will the MM's set the price?
rufus- I dont think that would be wise for me to get into now.
at least rufus is learning to shut his mouth
when will you? Posted by Chart walker on :
LOL ~~
Posted by 6digits on :
St. Matthew do you have the link to the Texas shareholder meeting pictures? If so could you post it please?
Posted by 6digits on :
Spooky, thanks for the link.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Well, that stated that they can continue to investigate, I think it pertained mostly to the bonds but I'd have to read it again...so what do youthink about this Stocktrader22? Do you like Rufus being back?
I believe its a good thing, much better than Mike A in there. I wouldnt think a guy running a scam who was being investigated by the SEC would walk back into a scam if it was one. I think the company is real, but there just so much power attacking it that we may never be trading where we should be
AND Spector I can say whatever I want, I'm not a CEO of a company.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Im not going to be able to sleep now. JMHO Posted by 6digits on :
I'm glad Rufus is taking back CEO, because I think there's important reasons for it. Not to mention he loves to talk to the people. I think that Mike A. and Randy served there purpose and I think mentally a lot of us fired them earlier today anyway. So talk about timing.
Posted by TimW on :
Im confused as hell but i have to say, if i lose it all, i have no shame in saying how i lost it! This has been one crazy company.
Posted by TimW on :
Lets just hope mike a and randy didnt see the gavel on its way down and jump ship and let rufus take the mashin.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Im confused as hell but i have to say, if i lose it all, i have no shame in saying how i lost it! This has been one crazy company.
ya...great learning curve for those who choose to keep trading.
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't think that Rufus was obligated to take back the position he could have said no.
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't see them surrendering to the authorities FWIW.
Posted by bigstocks on :
JMHO I think some owe Tut an apology. Posted by TimW on :
Youre right.. If it was really a scam why would rufus step back in..
No one knows. The PPS tomorrow and PR's to follow will tell!
Posted by bigstocks on :
Why would he be allowed to step back in?
Posted by 6digits on :
Great a new CEO to get PO'ed at.HAHAAAAA.
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Why would he be allowed to step back in?
It would seem that he left voluntarily and apparently no law against him coming back?
Posted by wv1973 on :
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
Posted by 3403 on :
One thing I have learned from all this is how many peoples emotions can change 180 degrees nearly every few hours. It was amazing. Only a very few stood completly steadfast. I was one of the weaker ones. Jenna, I am speechless, and excited no poem now.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Whatever is going on, it has set a new standard in how to conduct business.
Posted by 3403 on :
wv, somehow I get the feeling RPH knows what he is doing, as crazy as it seems.
Posted by 3403 on :
It is early in the morning and I feel good going to take on the world like I know I should
Like a fine tuned car we are on the go Rufus the driver never goes slow
He makes the turns like a sure footed cat pedal to the metal this car can scat
Weaving in and out of the traffic jam our man Ru ain't on the lamb
According to him will reach heights never dreamed trading at high numbers a dream it would of seemed
Our emotions are high with Ru back on top leading our car through the race non-stop
He has big plans we're along for the ride look out big world we're an in coming tide
Somehow I know all he says will come true at least for now I'm sticking like glue
Posted by portman on :
First D.J.: Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today.
Second D.J.: It's coooold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach?
First D.J.: Not hardly. And you know, you can expect hazardous travel later today with that, you know, that, uh, that blizzard thing.
Second D.J.: [mockingly] That blizzard - thing. That blizzard - thing. Oh, well, here's the report! The National Weather Service is calling for a "big blizzard thing!"
First D.J.: Yessss, they are. But you know, there's another reason why today is especially exciting.
Second D.J.: Especially cold!
First D.J.: Especially cold, okay, but the big question on everybody's lips...
Second D.J.: - On their chapped lips...
First D.J.: - On their chapped lips, right: Do ya think Phil is gonna come out and see his shadow?
Second D.J.: Punxsutawney Phil!
First D.J.: Thats right, woodchuck-chuckers - it's
[in unison]
First D.J.: GROUNDHOG DAY! Second D.J.: GROUNDHOG DAY!
Posted by 66inxs on :
well just when you think nothing else can happen- bang. rufus is back. looks like an interesting day today for sure.
btw, good morning board. once again, the worm turns....
Posted by RichBy26 on :
WOW!!! Great news, if Rufus can keep a lid on it LOL... I'll check in later
Posted by Chart walker on :
Good Morning Board ~
-just when my sleeping pattern was starting to get normal again...
I can only see the news as good. Hope the PPS starts a climb and we get some news about those 6 for 1 shares!
wow,.. -just wow... What a stock Posted by RyanPBF on :
Hey guys I'm back. I'm sorry I haven't been around I just saw no use in watching something that I was holding all the way take a beating. I didn't want to get to posting all negative stuff on the board so I just walked away for a bit. I for one was never excited that MA became CEO again, but this new twist is out of control. I much prefer to have Rufus back.Even if it's just for the laugh factor it's weird when you're losing money and laughing at the same time because the CEO is such a character. It'll be interesting to see what officer's come back with him doesn't seem like Mitch and Sabra will be back anytime soon. Maybe we'll see some of those new hirings we've heard so much about.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: St. Matthew do you have the link to the Texas shareholder meeting pictures? If so could you post it please?
As DX says..."just when you think you know all the answers, we change the questions".
All this news is good though. It couldn't play out any better if it were a movie!
Posted by a surfer on :
The plot gets thicker.
Will the last page contain "and they lived happily ever after"?????
Stay tuned
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning all.
Posted by portman on :
Remember the MOST key things RPH said last night...
Beginning MM negotiations today.
Hiring PR/IR firms.
Hiring a good CEO and RPH moving to just Chairman of the Board.
Working on hypothecating the bonds.
Git er DONE!
Posted by djg7 on :
Good morning. The list by portman of the things to be done according to RPH is a large order and will take time but at least this is a start. It's always wise to bring a list to the grocery store so you don't forget anything. All aboard for another ride.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
RPH said a long time ago that he had buyers lined up. Perhaps he already has the market makers ready to go?
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Bump myself
posted 05-11-2006 22:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Listening to Simon tonight, it when through my head that eveyone has been totally thrown by what has gone on the last few days.
A quote from the Art Of War: "In presence of the enemy, your troops should be arrayed in normal fashion, but in order to secure victory abnormal maneuvers must be employed"!
Posted by mo-rydr on :
Rufus also said that all of the ducks are finally lined up and the final three chapters should come to pass within the next two weeks... is this one fun ride or WHAT!!!
Praise God... Rufus is back!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Just stopping in for a sec...
Gooood Morning CSHD! Can you "Gap up" on the greys? HA!
Posted by new2stocks on :
This stock has more drama than soap operas! Posted by thedoctor on :
Good morning everyone. Does anyone here know what CPA firm is doing the work for CSHD ?
Posted by RichBy26 on :
50K traded in premarket!
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Gapping up ha ha!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Let the BEAST continue to strave..... Posted by 10of13 on :
where do you see that?
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: 50K traded in premarket!
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: where do you see that?
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: 50K traded in premarket!
Its up on t&s and l2.
Posted by Chart walker on :
-anyone catch the price of those premarket shares?
Posted by CRab on :
.42 chart...
My question is...how does one make a premarket trade without an MM?
Posted by Chart walker on :
alright! thx crab!
Looks like a good day for the longs Posted by RyanPBF on :
looks like .42 on the premarket action
Posted by Goodones on :
We are going green today folks.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Thanks Igor!
Posted by 66inxs on :
how are they trading a grey sheet stock premarket? the 50k shares are showing up and it is upticking right. today may be a good opp. hmmmmm.....
Posted by sam$ on :
this stock gonna give me a heart attack!
Posted by QuestSolver on :
I think the CEO and CFO got smart and got the hell out of there before the SEC shuts them down again and starts looking at them to.
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Updates Shareholders Market Wire - November 14, 2006 10:42 PM ET
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place.
As of 8:38 p.m. on November 14, 2006, Mike Alexander has resigned as director and Chief Executive Officer and Randy Moseley has resigned as Chief Financial Officer of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD). Mike Alexander says that, "I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company's assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the company's business plan. I, and all of the shareholders, wish the group in Georgia the best of luck in the development of the Company and the shareholders' value. Mr. Harris has agreed to assume his previous management and board position and will be making announcements in the near future. He can be reached at (678) 758-3010."
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Hey Quest, read the rest buddy
Mike Alexander says that, "I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company's assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the company's business plan.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
if that's the case. Why did Rufus step back in I don't believe he was under any kind of obligation to take any position in the company. He no longer had any affiliation with the company?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Quest? Let's hope that's not the case...but you have to admit that this stock is one big Drama show? AND? VERY VERY interesting! LOL
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by sam$: this stock gonna give me a heart attack!
Want my Tums...wait, there all gone!
Posted by 66inxs on :
remember this doesn't trade on facts it trades on perception. if rufus being back brings in some new money, the stock will spike briefly giving us a good opportunity to make money. rufus is a better promoter then mike alexander.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Questsolver, I know you come from HSM and don't own any shares of this stock....why are you here?
Posted by RichBy26 on :
woops, someone didn't like the news. 5K traded at .33, ha
Posted by RyanPBF on :
10k more just traded at .33
Posted by QuestSolver on :
no doubt this has been a great money maker for many and definitely a major soap opera play...LOL
at least now many will get a second chance to either enter or exit and be a part of or leave the scenario.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Quest is in the house....
Just messin with you quest Posted by 10of13 on :
Yep Quest... let's keep watching and see how it really plays out! It's been great so far...$ and entertainment!
Posted by QuestSolver on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: if that's the case. Why did Rufus step back in I don't believe he was under any kind of obligation to take any position in the company. He no longer had any affiliation with the company?
but he wasn't voted back in was he? I am watching this just like everyone else...LOL....this is probably going to be one of the most historical penny dramas since CMKX!!
Posted by Doniboy on :
Hey 10, I heard Rufus last night. He was thinking that your name made you part of the Borg.... Posted by Doniboy on :
Nice start!!!!!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by QuestSolver:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: if that's the case. Why did Rufus step back in I don't believe he was under any kind of obligation to take any position in the company. He no longer had any affiliation with the company?
but he wasn't voted back in was he? I am watching this just like everyone else...LOL....this is probably going to be one of the most historical penny dramas since CMKX!!
Rufus's resignation was accepted by Mike Alexander. Please discuss this stock with facts instead of ignorance of fact.
Posted by QuestSolver on :
LOL....I know Frank and if you can't find humor in todays market then you must be dead...LOL
GLTA here and many will be watching this for sure,got to go back and keep the action in line now.
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning! It's all good still!! Rufas is the man... Posted by Doniboy on :
Who sells for .32 after a bunch of .40 and .45 buys?
Posted by 10of13 on :
people that have put in a sell order and GTC and walked away from this...
Posted by SherriT on :
What the he11? I know when we talk a few pages that something interesting is going on....Rufus is BACK?
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Whats your agenda Quest?
U bashed the crap out of this on HSM and now on here!!!!
Whats the matter have you been told not to post opinions on your own board??????
Posted by 10of13 on :
yes Sherri...check the news last night
Posted by Doniboy on :
Yes Sherri, those of you who are George Lucas fans know whats going on:
1)FHAL WARS 2)THE SEC STRIKES BACK 3)RETURN OF THE COWBOY
Hopefully the force will be strong with us Posted by frank021474 on :
yes Sherri- PR last night (while RPH was on SRP) Mike Alexander has verified the company and the business contacts etc..
Turned it back over to Rufus.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: yes Sherri- PR last night (while RPH was on SRP) Mike Alexander has verified the company and the business contacts etc..
Turned it back over to Rufus.
Let's keep it factual, please. Rufus said that's the conclusion he draws from it, but we don't know that for certain.
Posted by 6digits on :
I'm glad Rufus is taking back CEO, because I think there's important reasons for it. Not to mention he loves to talk to the people. I think that Mike A. and Randy served there purpose and I think mentally a lot of us fired them earlier yesterday anyway. So talk about timing.
Posted by JHenry on :
1. Halt Trading 2. Accuse Company of Wrongdoing 3. Open Trading Up Under Dark Cloud of Accusations 4. Price Drops 5. Shorts Cover
What have you got: SEC Stock Price Manipulation 101
Posted by St. Matthew on :
He is a Mod over over there...nice (Fair and Balanced)
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Questsolver, I know you come from HSM and don't own any shares of this stock....why are you here?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by JHenry: 1. Halt Trading 2. Accuse Company of Wrongdoing 3. Open Trading Up Under Dark Cloud of Accusations 4. Price Drops 5. Shorts Cover
What have you got: SEC Stock Price Manipulation 101
As long as we get back on a regular board and move forward, I don't give a rat's behind about the shorts anymore. We have more than enough going for us in the assets...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by penny_player:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: yes Sherri- PR last night (while RPH was on SRP) Mike Alexander has verified the company and the business contacts etc..
Turned it back over to Rufus.
Let's keep it factual, please. Rufus said that's the conclusion he draws from it, but we don't know that for certain.
Thats the conlusion written on the PR- Here it is:
[PASTE from PR] Mike Alexander says that, "I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company's assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the company's business plan. [END PASTE]
Posted by 6digits on :
BuckyBarnes, Thanks for the link.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: BuckyBarnes, Thanks for the link.
6.....Welcome
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Good morning folks.
I had a short grocery list of what could / should have happened last night. I wasnt quite finished with it yet, i was taking my time.
Anyway, no where on my list would it have ever listed that Rufus returns as CEO today. Did i think it could have been a future possibility? Sure. But, right now....out of the blue? Im floored.
I cant think of a couple VERY good reasons for Rufus to step back in, but i can think of a few bad ones too.
As ive been trying to do lately, i plan to keep my emotions off the boards until i can get a better feel for what just happened. I see a lot of speculation so far but nothing that really convinces me.....yet
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Did you all buy FRPT like I recommended BEFORE earnings last night? Up .50
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why because he wants what more jail time? I think not he was already separated from the company, and he knows if it’s real or not.
If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Mike and Randy turn it back over when they are both major shareholders. They were in position to get their money out. Liquidate the bonds and pay shareholders, and dissolve the company.
If CSHD is not scam but the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Rufus do that? The SEC is looking for fake bonds, and someone if not everyone would go to jail for the any lies told.
If CSHD is not a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why...well he was in position to have all the bonds and company to himself, but the contracts and contacts are Rufus’s. The only way to grow Mike’s investment money is to put the captain back on the ship that has the ability and contacts to grow it.
This move whether it was orchestrated or unplanned still has merit. Mike did not have to give up CSHD, and Rufus did not have to join back-on. Proof is in the actions.
As Chart likes to quote... “We are golden.”
Posted by 10of13 on :
What I find curious is the size of these trades... Either people grabbing small amount of shares to see what may possibly happen or daytraders that got stuck in trying to get out... The trades seem rather small...IMO
Posted by Doniboy on :
Cautious optimism is the way to go for now Catia...
Posted by RichBy26 on :
I like your logic Tax, and I agree.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why because he wants what more jail time? I think not he was already separated from the company, and he knows if it’s real or not.
If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Mike and Randy turn it back over when they are both major shareholders. They were in position to get their money out. Liquidate the bonds and pay shareholders, and dissolve the company.
If CSHD is not scam but the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Rufus do that? The SEC is looking for fake bonds, and someone if not everyone would go to jail for the any lies told.
If CSHD is not a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why...well he was in position to have all the bonds and company to himself, but the contracts and contacts are Rufus’s. The only way to grow Mike’s investment money is to put the captain back on the ship that has the ability and contacts to grow it.
This move whether it was orchestrated or unplanned still has merit. Mike did not have to give up CSHD, and Rufus did not have to join back-on. Proof is in the actions.
As Chart like to quote... “We are golden.”
I always enjoy your suppositions...all of the bases are covered Posted by TexasMoney on :
Up 5% isn't exactly "off the hook". A monkey throwing darts has proven better returns.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Did you all buy FRPT like I recommended BEFORE earnings last night? Up .50
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am a programmer... life always breaks down to the conditionals for me. IF this THEN this ELSE this...
It is like Jenna's siggy... "It is so simple, it is stupid."
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What I find curious is the size of these trades... Either people grabbing small amount of shares to see what may possibly happen or daytraders that got stuck in trying to get out... The trades seem rather small...IMO
Volume is huge compared to yesterday. With no MMs to facilitate, we can't expect a lot of volume.
Posted by wv1973 on :
It's fourth down. The ball's on the 20-yard line and CSHD is out of time-outs. It looks grim for the homwteam. 80 yards to go and only one play remaining. Rufus brings them to the line. The play clock and game clock are essentially the same - 3 - 2 - 1 - Hike. Rufus fades back to pass, but here's a hand-off to Alexander as he streaks around to the left to make an end run around the SEC defense.
Wait, he stops. It's a trick play. He's gonna throw the ball. There's Rufus streaking down the right sideline. He's all alone. Alexander heaves a beautiful spiral. Leads Rufus perfectly. He's got it 50-40-30-20-10-5 --- TOUCHDOWN. OMG IT'S A TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
That's hilarious wv! ROFLMAO!!!
Posted by wv1973 on :
why thank you
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Gotta love the "flea flicker"... normally it starts with a pitch back, but I think it is a bit safer with a genuine hand-off. Posted by RichBy26 on :
Hey wv your from NC right? Care if I PM you about something concerning Charlotte NC?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Up 5% isn't exactly "off the hook". A monkey throwing darts has proven better returns.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Did you all buy FRPT like I recommended BEFORE earnings last night? Up .50
8% now, and there is a short squeeze.... but that's ok, you stay here.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I think we all need a vacation!
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: It's fourth down. The ball's on the 20-yard line and CSHD is out of time-outs. It looks grim for the homwteam. 80 yards to go and only one play remaining. Rufus brings them to the line. The play clock and game clock are essentially the same - 3 - 2 - 1 - Hike. Rufus fades back to pass, but here's a hand-off to Alexander as he streaks around to the left to make an end run around the SEC defense.
Wait, he stops. It's a trick play. He's gonna throw the ball. There's Rufus streaking down the right sideline. He's all alone. Alexander heaves a beautiful spiral. Leads Rufus perfectly. He's got it 50-40-30-20-10-5 --- TOUCHDOWN. OMG IT'S A TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I am a programmer... life always breaks down to the conditionals for me. IF this THEN this ELSE this...
It is like Jenna's siggy... "It is so simple, it is stupid."
Maybe that is why I like your posts so much...me too (programmer, that is). All about the logic.
Posted by 6digits on :
Rufus said he would be talking to an MM today. It would be cool to be back to regular trading by the end of the week.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Up 5% isn't exactly "off the hook". A monkey throwing darts has proven better returns.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Did you all buy FRPT like I recommended BEFORE earnings last night? Up .50
8% now, and there is a short squeeze.... but that's ok, you stay here.
And CSHD is up 17.14% Not bad... Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: RPH said a long time ago that he had buyers lined up. Perhaps he already has the market makers ready to go?
I've got a "hunch" this is true.....
I'm a few pages back trying to catch up!!!!!!!!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Unclerudy,
Fair enough. I totally respect you and Tex’s opinions on this board…I really do. I just wanted to set the college kid comments straight. I thought that was completely unfair because it puts images in other people’s heads.
As I stated earlier, I get frustrated with him sometimes as well. I do think he posts too much because he is loosing credibility when he says “soon” and nothing happens. Hell…I feel guilty because there has been a time or two when I contacted him and said “Do you have any news or words of wisdom for the shareholders because they need to hear from you right about now”. Next thing you know, he posts something…not sure if he was planning to post already or listening to me. My point here is…he wants to help us get through this battle and win the war…and he does consider this a war. We have talked about the Naked Shorting thing a couple of times. He is very passionate about stopping it in this country.
Also, I want to know who he is as much as you guys. I just have to take his word as a man that he knows what is in our best interest at the time. I have asked him a couple of times when we will know who he is and he always pauses for a few seconds…I can tell he is really thinking about it. It’s almost like he wants to tell me more, but he can’t. He tells me that we will all know who he is when the time is right.
Just think of it this way…he is just rallying the troops and attempting to keep the weak hands from selling. That would be bad for all of us. Just like Rufus, Tut has become bigger than life for many shareholders who do not have the time, money, or wherewithal to do their own DD. Like it or not…we need him.
Matthew
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: St. Matt,
Thanks for giving me your opinion of Tut, and everyone elses thoughts on him. I was just a little angry reading another post of his. If he has more than 10% of the company that he owns, and is then an insider, I will understand if he doesn't want to make comments concerning the company. But if he is not, then how exactly can he be giving out inside information, unless one of the insiders are giving it to him? And if you have so much respect for the man's opinion and thoughts and knowledge, then tell me why I should have the same feelings as you.
There is only one thing that will completely legitimize any of the things that he has ever said or will say in the future. One thing.
His name.
Until I know WHO he is, he is just some random guy on the internet, posting his thoughts and stringing us along, and laughing while he watches everyone hanging on his words. I just want to know what I need to do to sign up for my secret decoder ring, so that I can get the same information that seems to have a couple others convinced that Tut is the real deal.
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone here on the board. I am just not buying into anything he says until I have some proof. And my earlier comment that started this whole discussion was just me venting after just waking up and being frustrated at the whole situation. I just want wholesome DD to disect, not empty promises.
Posted by Chart walker on :
I did scoop some more up...
Put in at .50 and filled in low .40's...
With less $$ I'm almost where I was before! GO CSHD!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: RPH said a long time ago that he had buyers lined up. Perhaps he already has the market makers ready to go?
I've got a "hunch" this is true.....
I'm a few pages back trying to catch up!!!!!!!!
1st Jenna...no need to "look back"...time to move forward.. AND? Rufus was rather clear last night that CSHD would need to have the filings current and ammended BEFORE getting an MM to "sign on"...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I couldn't have said it better myself...thanks Tax
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why because he wants what more jail time? I think not he was already separated from the company, and he knows if it’s real or not.
If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Mike and Randy turn it back over when they are both major shareholders. They were in position to get their money out. Liquidate the bonds and pay shareholders, and dissolve the company.
If CSHD is not scam but the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Rufus do that? The SEC is looking for fake bonds, and someone if not everyone would go to jail for the any lies told.
If CSHD is not a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why...well he was in position to have all the bonds and company to himself, but the contracts and contacts are Rufus’s. The only way to grow Mike’s investment money is to put the captain back on the ship that has the ability and contacts to grow it.
This move whether it was orchestrated or unplanned still has merit. Mike did not have to give up CSHD, and Rufus did not have to join back-on. Proof is in the actions.
As Chart likes to quote... “We are golden.”
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Good morning Jenna...took your advice and Alexandra Grace is doing better today. I actually got some sleep last night. You are a sweetheart.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: RPH said a long time ago that he had buyers lined up. Perhaps he already has the market makers ready to go?
I've got a "hunch" this is true.....
I'm a few pages back trying to catch up!!!!!!!!
Posted by highhopes on :
I want to make sure I understand something here... Ultimately the stock should reflect the markets belief that CSHD can invest the money in a way that provides value above the cost of the bonds? These are not assets that CSHD can liquidate and then pay shareholders the value. Do I have that right?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning All ... great day for CSHD ... a long time ago, I was commenting on Rufus and how he plays this stock like one plays pool.
I'm visualizing the movie or book, and, I see him orchestrating this stock like he plays pool - always knowing his play, setting himself up for shots by planning his subsequent shots ahead ... anyway, the movie ends, after all the shareholders have had their dream basket over filled ... the movie shows some of the results for shareholders ... the movie ends with Rufus and one of the major players (one of us stockholders) playing a game of pool. Can't wait to see the movie but this "real" thing is even better!
This is an example of what we have heard from TUT etal, there are great things coming - hold tight ... who could have predicted this and yet in hindsight, it makes perfect sense! What next? JMO, GLTA.
Posted by 3403 on :
Some how I feel I am in safe hands... go figure
Posted by SherriT on :
I really hope Rufus wasn't kidding when he made that comment about the final three chapters being played out in the next couple of weeks....something nice and tangible to happen (even if not all)
Posted by Chart walker on :
I feel tons better about things...
Only a 5 day extention means we'll be getting "results" very soon as well... This explains that extention...
Things are looking up finally, whew ~
Posted by St. Matthew on :
FWIW...Rufus' mother has mentioned that Rufus' BD is the 30th of this month a couple of times. I'm listening to the SPR interview now and it was mentioned again (a couple of times). Simon asked him if it would be an important date for CSHD and Rufus laughed and said "could be".
Posted by CRab on :
Anyone find the fact that mirrors are going through a little kooky? Five in a row now, lol?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Anyone find the fact that mirrors are going through a little kooky? Five in a row now, lol?
all at a .02 spread except the last one, .01
Posted by 6digits on :
I like that we're trading in the .40s range instead of the low.30s and who knows where else it was headed to yesterday.
Posted by mo-rydr on :
St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I want to make sure I understand something here... Ultimately the stock should reflect the markets belief that CSHD can invest the money in a way that provides value above the cost of the bonds? These are not assets that CSHD can liquidate and then pay shareholders the value. Do I have that right?
An asset is an asset... if they are 100% owner like the documents state. Then they can be cashed in. I believe Rufus pointed out that this violates all the contracts to do so, and it was not worth it to proove to a couple of people that something is actually there, but it is possible, but with out seeing the original contracts it is hard to tell what the penalty could be. Like signing over your house with stips. Person could trash your house, burn it, or sell it out from under you. But what are the stips of the contract? 95% payback in the event? 120% payback in the event? Posted by St. Matthew on :
No...I have not talked to James lately. My guess is he has been very busy and was probably asked to lay low while putting together the shareholder committee. Most of the inner circle people have been very quiet for 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by mo-rydr: St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
Posted by Doniboy on :
47,920 shares bought at .43 Posted by highhopes on :
Taxback, Thanks...I think I get it now
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
highhopes ~ Another example is some farm land I own in Illinois. I don't live there, and I don't farm. But I allow a farmer there in the area plant and harvest off the property. He pays me a percentage of what he makes off the end product, and I use it to pay the taxes.
I can't just kick him off the property next year, our contract provides him with a time frame, and he can't set-up an oil well, or sell it. He does not have the rights, but he can use the land as an asset when he goes to get money because of the acerage he has available to him.
Bonds are a lot more complicated but it is treated like a living breating asset.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I’ve been relentlessly torturing the iHub “bash club” this morning. There’s quite a few others over there silencing these idiots too.
I told “Our-Creep” that Uncle RICO was looking for him and haven’t seen him post since. If that guy died today maggots wouldn’t even touch his sick ass.
Posted by CRab on :
Some bigguns going through...
This makes me question my understanding of the how we are trading right now. As in; who is facilitating the trades, who decides the prices, who decides who gets which shares?
It's confusing...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Taxback, Thanks...I think I get it now
OK well then sorry if I provided TMI... Posted by Chart walker on :
Intraday chart $howing an up trend!
Nice to $ay that again!!!!!
I like FRPT, but doubling that will take awhile, PYPR is holding and may even run again...
God I LOVE days like this!!!
Posted by highhopes on :
No not TMI! But one more dumb question...Don't the bonds have a preferred position in case of liquidation? Posted by Chart walker on :
Nice to see 5 digit orders rolling in again too Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I believe that is the case if they have been loaned out more than once. I do not know about these bonds. If the true owner is contractually Conversion Solutions then there would have to be a "prefered position" if he was to loan the bond out to another entity.
Once again this is where knowledge of the contracts would help.
Posted by Jenna on :
Bump..
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Good morning everyone. Does anyone here know what CPA firm is doing the work for CSHD ?
Tax - My dad asked this earlier - Do you know the answer ?- I thought they still had Benson & he thinks they don't....
Posted by highhopes on :
TaxBack, Thanks so much for helping. I really appreciate you helping me understand it more. I bought at 2.50 and have been holding strong ever since. Thanks for the research and the guidance. Posted by mo-rydr on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: No...I have not talked to James lately. My guess is he has been very busy and was probably asked to lay low while putting together the shareholder committee. Most of the inner circle people have been very quiet for 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by mo-rydr: St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
Thanks St Matt, I hope that you get elected to the committee and move into the 'inner circle'. It would be nice for this board to have someone 'in the know' that can help keep the speculation on track. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Jenna ~ I know as much as you on this. Last report was Benson was still on board and Rufus had not recieved any letter stating otherwise.
This was a question answered on SPR right before Rufus was removed by the BOD. So he was answering as CEO not an outsider making a guess. Like others I have heard rumors of an external audit team, and a lawyer who really specializes in audits, but none of this tells me that Benson is out, I am sure a change in auditor is considered a "material event" and requires 8K notification for the shareholders.
Hope this helps... it is just my opinion.
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
Crazy trading this AM. catia... had an order pre open - 10000 * .40 mine filled 10 minutes ago 9275 * .38 and the rest * .40
Posted by CRab on :
holy smokes...two for 50k, and one for 54k just went through...
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: holy smokes...two for 50k, and one for 54k just went through...
Think i'm being too ambitious? Posted by Jenna on :
Thanx Tax!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
3403- Loved your poem by the way....
Posted by 66inxs on :
why hasn't there been a 8k filed for the change of directors and officers?
Posted by CRab on :
a million shares traded before noon ON THE GREY SHEETS...un-be-lievable
Posted by driver4t4 on :
just double checking my words..Main Entry: mon·e·tize Pronunciation: 'mä-n&-"tIz also 'm&- Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): -tized; -tiz·ing Etymology: Latin moneta 1 : to coin into money; also : to establish as legal tender 2 : to purchase (public or private debt) and thereby free for other uses moneys that would have been devoted to debt service
Posted by 66inxs on :
you got that right crab, unbelievable!
Posted by 6digits on :
I just filled for 1240*.35 thats the lowest I bought since July. Back then I got 100k shares in the high teens and low 20s.
Posted by 6digits on :
I talked to soon about staying out of the 30s. Someone wants to give up their shares very low.
Posted by Chart walker on :
WTG 6 =digits! Posted by Jenna on :
What was the last trade anybody know where it's at?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
it seems we're still trading in the same range as we have been just more volume.
Posted by CRab on :
Jenna,
12:18:24 0.34 823 shares
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanx Crab....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It definitely is interesting to watch. Daytraders and flippers on the grey sheets. I think we have some of Wallstreet's most iron stomachs amongst us.
It takes serious huevos to trade and flip with out a bid and ask.
Hard to get anything to climb with out a bit of help from an MM. Blind trading is just that.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just don't get it. If you can watch all the trades going through and it looks like there's good buying going on at .40 why put a sell order in for .32
Posted by ClayN on :
Is it possible someone is dumping a bunch of shares?
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I just don't get it. If you can watch all the trades going through and it looks like there's good buying going on at .40 why put a sell order in for .32
Posted by 6digits on :
Ryan, good question. Some people must want out. To me it sounds like time to have more if possible.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by ClayN: Is it possible someone is dumping a bunch of shares?
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I just don't get it. If you can watch all the trades going through and it looks like there's good buying going on at .40 why put a sell order in for .32
could be shorting the shares.
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya maybe the SEC sanctioned the shorters and they're back in full force. Just to protect us shareholders.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about the PR being negative?
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about th ePR being negative?
That possibility exists. Especially if they are on ihub listening to all the crap that is said there. Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about th ePR being negative?
My guess would be shorters are selling into the buying pressure just as they have done many times before. I simply dont see a mass exodus on the forums to conclude it's longs bailing.
Posted by 6digits on :
I may have just got air shares. Lets see if the PPS on air shares goes up. I'll be able to breathe a lot easier when it does. Or maybe I should just quit smoking Posted by St. Matthew on :
I thought Rufus said that the shorts had pretty much covered. Does this have anything to do with the 6 x 1 share deal? Are they still responsible for those shares?
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about th ePR being negative?
My guess would be shorters are selling into the buying pressure just as they have done many times before. I simply dont see a mass exodus on the forums to conclude it's longs bailing.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about th ePR being negative?
My guess would be shorters are selling into the buying pressure just as they have done many times before. I simply dont see a mass exodus on the forums to conclude it's longs bailing.
I don't see how that could happen...there are no MM's that could be shorting...AND? the whole idea of shorters are that you sell short because you think the stock will fall... My thought is more that after SPR and Rufus coming back...there are peole that said...no way..just too much risk with him..AND? that he as the CEO stated that the 6-1 shares were still a go...so...people take on the mind set..(as Chart had early on) that IF this is real? I held these shares on the 16th...I WILL be getting 6:1 and I should sell now as a safe guard...just MO...
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Why on earth would anyone be selling right now? Are they believing the bashers about the PR being negative?
Typical lunch time selloff is my guess. This how we were trading on the BB. I'm thinking it will run back up later this afternoon.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't think there's any sort of shorting on the grey's. I'm pretty sure that's the consensus on both sides of the shorting argument
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I don't think there's any sort of shorting on the grey's. I'm pretty sure that's the consensus on both sides of the shorting argument
I agree this ground was covered. the only upside to grey sheets was there could be no shorting of the stock.
Posted by highhopes on :
Rufus said something pretty cryptic on SPR last night about the sales that are going on now. He asked if there were really people selling? Isnt it possible that with the gray market shorts could sell to themselves at a low price and then that is the price that is quoted? Kind of keep the stock looking bad by continuing to move shares back and forth?
Posted by 10of13 on :
keeping it looking bad? why? trading between 30-50 is still fairly strong if this was a scam stock...it should fall below subpenny...there was no massive sell off at the begining..AND? this volume really isn't much...IMO...
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Rufus said something pretty cryptic on SPR last night about the sales that are going on now. He asked if there were really people selling? Isnt it possible that with the gray market shorts could sell to themselves at a low price and then that is the price that is quoted? Kind of keep the stock looking bad by continuing to move shares back and forth?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
These buys could be the shorts last opportunity to cover. They only have 5 days left. Posted by Chart walker on :
First good PR we double our money IMO ~
Extention is over in 4 days... Rufus put 3-5 days on drawing from the bonds too. Funding of the JV's then... Officers to be assigned as well.
-and what about that "new" 4 BILLION Bond we caught wind of?...
Should be Alot of PR's coming!
On on top of that looks like PYPR is gonna pop AGAIN! OMG, what a day Posted by highhopes on :
Hypothetically they are trying to convince real shareholders that this is not going to move up. So every once in awhile someone really dumps shares. Now that the shareholders see a light at the end of the tunnel they are not dumping. So the shorts move it back and forth at .35 to .40. For them to go lower would cost them real money.
Posted by 6digits on :
Does anybody have the transfer agents phone#?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Here's an idea...
What if the PR last night was intentionally vague knowing that the bashers would go to work on it and they would start shorting it once again...essentially undoing the most recent covering that was done this last week.
Just a thought... Posted by highhopes on :
A Tut Post of HSM
Shareholders be calm and take control of yourselves and do not listen to the wrong people. This news is good and now you will see everything go as it should. Obviously the bonds are real and the company will be vindicated otherwise this would not have been possible. Stop and think! I will say more later why I believe this. Some of you have told me you received emails (I don't know from who) to scare you. It is wrong. As soon as a MM begins on this you will see why.
Posted by 10of13 on :
last time a called...(long ago) the float is 29,373,701
Integrity stock transfer 877-317-7757
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Let me throw this question out for you folks:
Since we don't have a MM but are still trading, can MMs avoid L2 trading and the DTCC by passing shares to each other? If so, would that explain the mirror trades?
Also, would they be using this method to allow hedge funds to cover their short positions?
If this is the case, then isn't a short squeeze imminent? The clock is ticking....
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Chart...you have mail
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Hello...Hello...cricket sound
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Chart...you have mail
Thank you Sir ~
Posted by bigstocks on :
Im here and 2 100k transactions went thru Posted by SherriT on :
Chirp Chirp.... Posted by ClayN on :
Holy Cow. a couple 100,000 at .35
Posted by 6digits on :
I knew That
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: A Tut Post of HSM
Shareholders be calm and take control of yourselves and do not listen to the wrong people. This news is good and now you will see everything go as it should. Obviously the bonds are real and the company will be vindicated otherwise this would not have been possible. Stop and think! I will say more later why I believe this. Some of you have told me you received emails (I don't know from who) to scare you. It is wrong. As soon as a MM begins on this you will see why.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by ClayN: Holy Cow. a couple 100,000 at .35
$35,000.000 each? WOW
Posted by 6digits on :
Thank you 10
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: last time a called...(long ago) the float is 29,373,701
Integrity stock transfer 877-317-7757
Posted by Chart walker on :
-getting "that feeling" again!
Posted by 3403 on :
Come on guys slow down. We suffer from paralysis through analysis.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Still waiting...
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Chart...you have mail
Thank you Sir ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Guys... I hate to EVER repeat Tut. But calm down. These are the grey sheets. The same rules we are used to do not totally apply. If NO one can see the buys and sells comming in, then there is no way to know what is "Real" what is "fake", what is air, what is not. The last two days. This could be clever manipulation, or this could be scared sales, but above all if you are not participating then no matter what it is... it definitely mean very little towards how this stock is going to price and react when trading on the OTCBB or other exchange real soon.
Let the little grey men have their fun... Posted by mo-rydr on :
I picked up around 5000 shares today and dropped my PPS from just over $2 to just under $1.50, I'm all in and looking better for it.
Thanks Rufus
Posted by Chart walker on :
PYPR just broke out!
Alright CSHD, your turn Something brewing.... Posted by 3403 on :
We got some good news last nite Yet most continue to fight I think we're loosing sight
The captain is at the wheel our ship is under keel zip them up and seal
Bask in the news at least a day or two quit picking it apart just follow your heart
There will be time to complain Make Rufus explain should things fall apart and our DD's not smart
At the moment I'm happy following Ru my cappy and I won't be down till the fat lady's sound
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: PYPR just broke out!
Alright CSHD, your turn Something brewing....
Its being pumped via an email.. watch yourself.
THE *********** PYPR Paypro inc Posted: 14 Nov 2006 08:09 PM CST Paypro going strong and volume looks good. I am hoping for a good run soon. Maybe it will take a little while but .....I can wait!
Posted by 3403 on :
Would I buy today knowing all I know and have seen NO.... Would I sell today knowing what I know and seen, NOOO!! weird ain't it
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I bought today, 4000 shares, i'll flip it next week and make a killing..
Posted by 3403 on :
Would I buy today knowing all I know and have seen NO.... Would I sell today knowing what I know and seen, NOOO!! weird ain't it
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: PYPR just broke out!
Alright CSHD, your turn Something brewing....
Its being pumped via an email.. watch yourself.
THE *********** PYPR Paypro inc Posted: 14 Nov 2006 08:09 PM CST Paypro going strong and volume looks good. I am hoping for a good run soon. Maybe it will take a little while but .....I can wait!
I agree. People are hyping it up over the sale of 2 billion shares, but it looks like it's just paypro buying shares from themselves, and they're not eveen paying for them with real money. Should be a nice pop tomorrow, but you better get out before the dump.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by penny_player:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: PYPR just broke out!
Alright CSHD, your turn Something brewing....
Its being pumped via an email.. watch yourself.
THE *********** PYPR Paypro inc Posted: 14 Nov 2006 08:09 PM CST Paypro going strong and volume looks good. I am hoping for a good run soon. Maybe it will take a little while but .....I can wait!
I agree. People are hyping it up over the sale of 2 billion shares, but it looks like it's just paypro buying shares from themselves, and they're not eveen paying for them with real money. Should be a nice pop tomorrow, but you better get out before the dump.
--little more to it... PR just out...
PayPro, Inc Net Profit up 2582% over 2nd Quarter 2006
Guess joints and subs aren't even figured in till 4th quarter comes out, so I feel pretty safe...
Posted by new2stocks on :
anyone showing b/a on their streamers? TDA people say they are showing b/a of $1.50 & $1.99....Scottrade is not.
Posted by Sandusky on :
I have TDA...don't see anything on B/A except 0.00
Posted by 3403 on :
no bid and ask with me (scottrade)
Posted by mo-rydr on :
No B/A on Choicetrade Direct Pro
Posted by CRab on :
Bid 1.50 ask 1.99 for Aturd here. The name shows up now too.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Alright!
Good sign... -coming back!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: why hasn't there been a 8k filed for the change of directors and officers?
material change has 4 days to file.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: a million shares traded before noon ON THE GREY SHEETS...un-be-lievable
and most miss this little nugget....lol
Posted by new2stocks on :
FWIW guys!
phil HSM Addict
Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,908 Quote: Originally Posted by CharlieO Mine too. Im not Apex though.
TDA' corporate action dept. just confirmed there are MM's. I do not know how valid this is at the moment. __________________
Posted by portman on :
My TDA streamer has had CSHD information for at least all of this week...no biggie IMHO.
Posted by portman on :
Phil was on hold a long time for that I think as well.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Phil was on hold a long time for that I think as well.
Apparently he is trying to find out the name of the MM if there is one....he's still on hold.
Posted by new2stocks on :
phil HSM Addict
Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,910 the corporate actions dept from TD Ameritrade stated citi group is the MM that is representing trades for TDA for this stock. They are active and are the reason for the bid/ask just showing up.
They do not know if there are other MM's active in the stock or not, so I would call your own brokerages and ask. __________________
Posted by jmoe20 on :
That bid and ask 1.50 and 1.99 is the same bid/ask that was displaying when the stock was halted. This is nothing new. and as far as the symbol registering in TD Ameritrade its reading CSHDE
Posted by 10of13 on :
If there is a MM now? Before updated filings? i would be surprised...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Ya Aturd still registering CSHDE here. IMHO
Posted by CRab on :
Is there any reason the company can't give the MM a set of financials?
If this is the case, can this occur intraday or is the qouting process something that starts at market open?
Posted by portman on :
CSHD is VALID on TDA .... You can also use CSHDE...
CSHDE is Invalid on Fildelity and choicetrade.
Let's not just post what we want people to think...post the whole story folks.
Posted by Chart walker on :
--this is just what happened BEFORE things went wrong, so it stands to reason that we are now coming out of it, IMO
-all good ~
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Posts: 8,910 the corporate actions dept from TD Ameritrade stated citi group is the MM that is representing trades for TDA for this stock. They are active and are the reason for the bid/ask just showing up.
They do not know if there are other MM's active in the stock or not, so I would call your own brokerages and ask. "
This can't be that accurate because on the otcbb site it isn't displaying any MM's and this would be the first to show that they indeed have an MM trading them... This bid and ask is old bid and ask...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Is there any reason the company can't give the MM a set of financials?
If this is the case, can this occur intraday or is the qouting process something that starts at market open?
New Financials are not required for an MM to begin to quote.
No, I do not think we have a significant change yet...but we might...you never know whith this stock.
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: why hasn't there been a 8k filed for the change of directors and officers?
material change has 4 days to file.
explain please
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Posts: 8,910 the corporate actions dept from TD Ameritrade stated citi group is the MM that is representing trades for TDA for this stock. They are active and are the reason for the bid/ask just showing up.
They do not know if there are other MM's active in the stock or not, so I would call your own brokerages and ask. "
This can't be that accurate because on the otcbb site it isn't displaying any MM's and this would be the first to show that they indeed have an MM trading them... This bid and ask is old bid and ask...
you are more than welcome to call their corporate actions dept. Let us know what they tell you.
Posted by atthebank on :
oh nevermind, see what your saying, thanks
Posted by Chart walker on :
Rufus did say he was going to start shaking the trees for MM's starting today.... FWIW
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by atthebank:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: why hasn't there been a 8k filed for the change of directors and officers?
material change has 4 days to file.
explain please
Change happened last night...CSHD has 4 days to 8k the change in the PR.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
If this was true don't you think the price would not continue on the down slide? It's trading at .30 cents right now. Them gaining an MM would be HUGE news, cause this stock would be right back up at a $1.00 or more IMO
Posted by new2stocks on :
I called Scottrade, the guy on the phone had no idea what I was asking....he is going to call me back and let me know if they are acquiring an MM, he shows none at this time. FWIW
Posted by jmoe20 on :
And FYI i hate the new layout of TDA... Colors throw you off, and it seems like its a lot slower...
Posted by Jenna on :
Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
Posted by CRab on :
I was just refering to proving validity more than the "financials" per se portman. I realize that it's probably as easy as buying the director of one of the MM's a nice bottle of liquer and kissing him on the ear. I just wanted to sound a little more professional, lmao...
I think good things are gonna happen here soon...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
Good question Jenna, I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Rufus did say he was going to start shaking the trees for MM's starting today.... FWIW
Which is a good reason why people would be reading into things that aren't there today. Kind of like reading a horoscope. I don't think it will be long though before we see some 211s filed.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I called Scottrade, the guy on the phone had no idea what I was asking....he is going to call me back and let me know if they are acquiring an MM, he shows none at this time. FWIW
phone monkeys never know what you are talking about if it isnt on their cheat sheet. You need to find out which dept handles corporate actions and talk to them yourself if it's possible.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by atthebank:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: why hasn't there been a 8k filed for the change of directors and officers?
material change has 4 days to file.
explain please
A change in BOD members is considered a "material event", a company has 4 days to file a material event in an 8K filing. But as others have stated since they are on the Grey sheets this may be a mute point since filing is not required. (It is more of a nice to have, and they have 4 days to do it.)
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by penny_player:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Rufus did say he was going to start shaking the trees for MM's starting today.... FWIW
Which is a good reason why people would be reading into things that aren't there today. Kind of like reading a horoscope. I don't think it will be long though before we see some 211s filed.
All we need is ONE 211 filed.... The rest can jump on piggy back I guess...
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
Everyone should be able to see the MM, routing through it is a different story. I think the phone monkeys at TDA are just a little confused. Someone has to handle the grey trading, even though they can't quote. Citi must be the one doing that for them, but they are not quoting it. As for the bid ask, I don't have TDA, but people have been reporting a 1.50x1.99 ba since we were halted.
Posted by Jenna on :
Sceptor - LOL - "phone monkeys"!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I called Scottrade, the guy on the phone had no idea what I was asking....he is going to call me back and let me know if they are acquiring an MM, he shows none at this time. FWIW
phone monkeys never know what you are talking about if it isnt on their cheat sheet. You need to find out which dept handles corporate actions and talk to them yourself if it's possible.
lol yeah, he said that the trading dept would be the people to talk to but they are all busy until after trading hours. Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
I have never seen a company get quoted off the greys...
I would not assume every brokerage get data at the same time. Just like everyone did not show the E at the same time.
It could depend on backoffice processing time frames...I really do not know.
All I know is I have seen a B&A from CSHD on my TDA streamer all week. The B&A is the same 1.50 x 1.99 everyone else is seeing.
I do not in any way doubt phil.
I am only providing the facts...and man do I ever want to see a MM on this one.
Posted by Chart walker on :
no trades going through in some time... -perhaps the Ask is raised, -bids not matching???
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Sceptor - LOL - "phone monkeys"!!!
lol we use it all the time.
Posted by Jenna on :
I'm going to go out on a limb here & I'm sure some people will think I'm nuts (nothing new) but I think perhaps we are close to having an MM but I think that if we were to be quoted right now by an MM I don't think they would start it at 1.99. I think it will be HIGHER!!!
OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
Posted by portman on :
Oh, and Yes! I bought more today.
Posted by Jenna on :
Tax- I forgot did you say you don't have the ability to PM?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Scottrade just simply doesn't have a clue...lol They called me back and gave me a quote, as if I was looking to sell/buy...I had to tell "the phone monkey" that wasn't what I called for, then asked him my original question. He then said that he does not show any MMs now, but that can change from day to day. So I got no usefull information. Posted by Chart walker on :
-aha.. price up, trades going through, looks like I was right.
It'll be nice to finish in the GREEN today... -I hope Posted by 66inxs on :
here is the link to the market makers list for cshd again if anyone needs it:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Scottrade just simply doesn't have a clue...lol They called me back and gave me a quote, as if I was looking to sell/buy...I had to tell "the phone monkey" that wasn't what I called for, then asked him my original question. He then said that he does not show any MMs now, but that can change from day to day. So I got no usefull information.
New2- you would have been better off asking the old lady at the grocery store....
Posted by TimW on :
I picked up more today. *shrug*
Posted by luvforever on :
Dang it! I was listening to ole rufas on spr and i am just laughing my arse off! ~LOL I still say its all good! This is just crazy ...I gotta meet this man in person sometime after he makes me rich! ~LOL Posted by mo-rydr on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Scottrade just simply doesn't have a clue...lol They called me back and gave me a quote, as if I was looking to sell/buy...I had to tell "the phone monkey" that wasn't what I called for, then asked him my original question. He then said that he does not show any MMs now, but that can change from day to day. So I got no usefull information.
New2- you would have been better off asking the old lady at the grocery store....
I asked the old lady in the grocery store and she told me to look in the candy section... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tax- I forgot did you say you don't have the ability to PM?
I can read... just can't write. Thanks for the info. Posted by kevinbailey on :
One thing I'll say for you all is you're brave...
Posted by sceptor on :
I'll call and quiz them more tomorrow. They still have a restriction against opening a transaction so no buying thru them regardless.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
66 if you go to the gscca.org website and do a search on waatle I believe it brings up that golden eagle address in a land contract for condo's or something
Posted by Jenna on :
You bet Tax-
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Chart...check your mail
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: One thing I'll say for you all is you're brave...
braver than you. Posted by CRab on :
It makes sense Jenna, we can only assume someone would agree to quote us a fair price. Emphasis on fair, whatever that may be at this point.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: here is the link to the market makers list for cshd again if anyone needs it:
quote:Originally posted by CRab: It makes sense Jenna, we can only assume someone would agree to quote us a fair price. Emphasis on fair, whatever that may be at this point.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
I believe Rufus said last night that there would be a recapitolization by the MM who files the 211
Posted by Chart walker on :
St.Matt, my "you have mail" doesn't work????
-sorry. But got it ~ Posted by 10of13 on :
Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
Posted by Doniboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
I do, but I like you anyway Posted by wv1973 on :
I got busy and forgot who asked to PM me about Charlotte. Whoever it was, please go ahead
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
for some reason my new computer won't allow me to listen! Posted by SherriT on :
I'm lonely *sniff sniff* Nobody is PM-ing me
Posted by 66inxs on :
tax you have a good point tax about that link. does the 211c1 form for the mm show up on any sec list so we can bookmark it? i guess that as soon as a mm signs on, it gets on the addition list to the otcbb within about an hour so that may be where we need to look.
thanks ryan i missed that when i was on the gscca.org site. will check it out.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I agree...all this posting on the PM stuff..LOL...makes me think there is gossip goin' on...I'd like to know...Good or bad...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm lonely *sniff sniff* Nobody is PM-ing me
Posted by new2stocks on :
tut speaks tutankhamen HSM Regular
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 445 Shareholders you need to understand that Rufus coming back is a strong signal that everything is real and this was the best thing that could happen for the company. He is the one that deals with the European banking platform and is the one that is trusted by them. It was needed, and him coming back tells you now everything can move forward. The SEC situation will be just have to go through the formal clearing method but what the company has stated they have is now shown to be. I think we can now look forward to events happening like they should have and you should all be happy with the results.
Take a strong clue from this. It is very good news and we are winning the battle and now it is onward and upward and no one can tell you differently.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: tut speaks tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is very good news and we are winning the battle and now it is onward and upward and no one can tell you differently.
Something makes me think this tutty head never looks at the PPS. Onward and downward is the -still continuing- trend, tut.
Posted by a surfer on :
how is everyone today??
I just got filled for some more. I kinda feel like I tiefed em.
Thats Bahamian for thiefing.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Has any of you noticed that TUT doesn't speak as confidently as he used to speak... He got rid of the animal comments " THE COBRA WILL BITE YOU WITH HIS VENOM AND THE VICTIM WILL SURELY DIE" I feel like i'm in a Discovery Channel episode whenever he talks... He just doesn't seem as "sure" when he speaks anymore IMO...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Rufus said that the MM's will want an answer to the SEC investigation...before signing on...he thinks...(at least that is what I got from the spr thing) He wants to find a MM with no position in this...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Has any of you noticed that TUT doesn't speak as confidently as he used to speak... He got rid of the animal comments " THE COBRA WILL BITE YOU WITH HIS VENOM AND THE VICTIM WILL SURELY DIE" I feel like i'm in a Discovery Channel episode whenever he talks... He just doesn't seem as "sure" when he speaks anymore IMO...
Actually I didn't like all the riddles, I'd rather hear things for what they are. Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I agree...all this posting on the PM stuff..LOL...makes me think there is gossip goin' on...I'd like to know...Good or bad...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm lonely *sniff sniff* Nobody is PM-ing me
Yeah, I feel out of the loop.
Posted by Sandusky on :
TUT is FOS IMO.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
for some reason my new computer won't allow me to listen!
plug in your speakers Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
for some reason my new computer won't allow me to listen!
Check to make sure your BS filter is not enabled. Posted by TexasMoney on :
Sir, you have cobra envy.
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
for some reason my new computer won't allow me to listen!
plug in your speakers
lol....they are plugged in and turned on! Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: tut speaks tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is very good news and we are winning the battle and now it is onward and upward and no one can tell you differently.
Something makes me think this tutty head never looks at the PPS. Onward and downward is the -still continuing- trend, tut.
He's saying from here on out... Just stay tuned!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
Rufus said he would come back on SPR next week with an update. Do you who listened remember?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Rufus talking about the MM on SPR now (re-loop)
for some reason my new computer won't allow me to listen!
plug in your speakers
lol....they are plugged in and turned on!
Did you check the volume control icon in your toolbar?
Posted by Sandusky on :
I have little to offer the board in the way of DD, experience, valid info etc. so for the most part I try to keep my mouth shut, listen, and try to learn something. Tut is 50% like me.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Sir, you have cobra envy.
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Rufus said he would come back on SPR next week with an update. Do you who listened remember?
Monday.
Posted by new2stocks on :
yes I checked all the volume bars...I get sound from other sources just not subpennyradio.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: tut speaks tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is very good news and we are winning the battle and now it is onward and upward and no one can tell you differently.
Something makes me think this tutty head never looks at the PPS. Onward and downward is the -still continuing- trend, tut.
He's saying from here on out... Just stay tuned!!!
He doesn't look at it, you would'nt either if you were in the know boat
Watch this very board later tonight, how's that?
Myself, I'll see you tomorrow morning Board!
Excellent day today IMO Later Board!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Chart are you "IN THE KNOW BOAT"??
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Chart are you "IN THE KNOW"??
-nope,..."I'M" not..........
bye-bye ~ Posted by Jenna on :
Chart - Paddle on over there's a few people that want to get picked up.....
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Chart are you "IN THE KNOW"??
-nope,..."I'M" not..........
bye-bye ~
Interesting. Anyone want to help me out here, "I'm" still feeling out of the loop. Posted by frank021474 on :
tsk tsk Jenna- I go golfing today and come back to not having my free bazillion shares and the PPS NOT at 98,943.00$ Ur slacking
Howdy board! Looks like another stagnant day watching paint dry on the greys!
Look forward to the coming days! Lots in store.
Texasmoney- the Cobra Envy was HILARIOUS!
Posted by Doniboy on :
KNOW, exciting and new Come Aboard. We're expecting you. KNOW, life's sweetest reward. Let it flow, it floats back to you.
THE KNOW BOAT soon will be making another run The KNOW Boat promises something for everyone Set a course for adventure, Your mind on a new romance.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by penny_player:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Chart are you "IN THE KNOW"??
-nope,..."I'M" not..........
bye-bye ~
Interesting, anyone want to help me out here. "I'm" still feeling out of the loop.
I don't know anything more than you at this point, but I would venture a guess that someone here knows more, or will....keep your eyes glued here. Speculation is often a very interesting way to learn what is going to happen I have learned....not always, but sometimes....
Posted by new2stocks on :
Jenna~you have a pm
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: KNOW, exciting and new Come Aboard. We're expecting you. KNOW, life's sweetest reward. Let it flow, it floats back to you.
THE KNOW BOAT soon will be making another run The KNOW Boat promises something for everyone Set a course for adventure, Your mind on a new romance.
Nominee for post of the day....classic!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
As TexasMoney has mentioned in the past- you sir have Cobra envy
Posted by Doniboy on :
Welcome Aboard the Know Boat!
Posted by Sandusky on :
Way too many PM's flying around and cryptic sh*t from Chart of all people (I mean that in a good way) for something NOT to be UP.
Posted by frank021474 on :
you have a PM Sandusky
just kidding
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: KNOW, exciting and new Come Aboard. We're expecting you. KNOW, life's sweetest reward. Let it flow, it floats back to you.
THE KNOW BOAT soon will be making another run The KNOW Boat promises something for everyone Set a course for adventure, Your mind on a new romance.
LOL ~~
"soon WE'LL be making another run"
I like that line better Doni...
$leep good tonight ~ I gotta $plit ~ Chart out ~
Posted by Doniboy on :
lol.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
I got good news....PM me if you want it.
Posted by frank021474 on :
cya Chart!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I got good news....PM me if you want it.
If it has anything to do with car insurance, I already heard about it! Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I got good news....PM me if you want it.
If it has anything to do with car insurance, I already heard about it!
Thanks for ruining the fun new2 Posted by Sandusky on :
LMAO!
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: you have a PM Sandusky
just kidding
Posted by Doniboy on :
I pm'd you anyway. Because I'd like to save a bunch of money on my car insurance.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: I got good news....PM me if you want it.
If it has anything to do with car insurance, I already heard about it!
Thanks for ruining the fun new2
Awww I'm sorry....
Posted by glassman on :
i need some boat insurance:
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Is the name of that boat PINKSHEET glass?
Posted by 3403 on :
gotta go for now.... exciting day.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
If you people only knew...you'd feel pretty stupid right about now.
If you people
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
Posted by glassman on :
speaking of radioactive? that picture is titled:
Sinking boat on the Pripyat River, Chornobyl, October 1998
Rufus has pretty much put everything on the line here:
i have to say i really like it...
everybody is going in with eyes wide open at this point...
if Rufus re-floats this boat? the current PPS really is irrelevant...
i was getting bored with Rufus gone anyway
obviously? Rufus will go to jail if he's (been) lying
i don't want anybody to be concerned about the "tone" of my posts...
i have no way of knowing which way this will go, but i am enjoying the ride
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i need some boat insurance:
If that's the "know boat" we're in trouble!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: If you people only knew...you'd feel pretty stupid right about now.
If you people
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
Not FOS - just very smart!!!
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: If you people only knew...you'd feel pretty stupid right about now.
If you people
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
Please enlighten in that case.
Posted by a surfer on :
oh woops and I can't read
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: yes I checked all the volume bars...I get sound from other sources just not subpennyradio.
You may be missing a plug in
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
plug-ins sold separately.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh well it was worth a shot... You never know when the "All powerful Oz... uh I mean Bob." is reading and maybe feeling merciful. See you all later.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Bye Tax
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: tut speaks tutankhamen HSM Regular
It is very good news and we are winning the battle and now it is onward and upward and no one can tell you differently.
Something makes me think this tutty head never looks at the PPS. Onward and downward is the -still continuing- trend, tut.
He's saying from here on out... Just stay tuned!!!
He doesn't look at it, you would'nt either if you were in the know boat
Watch this very board later tonight, how's that?
Myself, I'll see you tomorrow morning Board!
Excellent day today IMO Later Board!
We have a PPS?
Posted by Jenna on :
Hey - I'm confused about something Rufus said last night...He said that he thinks the Shorts have covered - really??? Did I hear him wrong?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
Later Board! [/qb]
We have a PPS? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Yes...it's $100/ share...... j/k....I WISH!!!!
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
check PM Jenna!!!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: If you people only knew...you'd feel pretty stupid right about now.
If you people
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
lol...StMatt so right ... so right....
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: If you people only knew...you'd feel pretty stupid right about now.
If you people
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sandusky: TUT is FOS IMO.
I agree 100% with your statement. A cobra needs to jump up and bite him in the neck for talking so much jibberish.
Please enlighten in that case.
If you ask...you are not worthy.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: yes I checked all the volume bars...I get sound from other sources just not subpennyradio.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hey - I'm confused about something Rufus said last night...He said that he thinks the Shorts have covered - really??? Did I hear him wrong?
Listen again..."legal" shorts is what he said.
Posted by portman on :
OK, I am going to explain it one time and only one time....
It is NOT the KNOW BOAT....
It's the NO BOAT.
As in I have done enough DD and if you ask me if I will sell the answer is NO.
Yes, you all have permission to board!
Posted by portman on :
and umm yeah... I bought more so I actually have real money in this now.
and if someone is stupid enough to sell me more tomorrow I am stupid enough to buy it.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hey - I'm confused about something Rufus said last night...He said that he thinks the Shorts have covered - really??? Did I hear him wrong?
Listen again..."legal" shorts is what he said.
OOHH - I knew I didn't hear the whole thing....I started listening at 11:30 last night... thanx...
Posted by portman on :
It's like a Portman three play....
I am your platter pushing papa.
Posted by new2stocks on :
glass, thanks for the link...I did that already and still am having problems. Posted by new2stocks on :
does anyone have problems playing this other than me?
ok downloaded the upgrade but when I click on the play button on the spr interview from that link, it doesn't play. ??
Posted by new2stocks on :
Well, I'm outta here!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Thanks 10of13... the other 12 are lucky to have you. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
GreenDay if I can ever send you anything I will. As for all the "juicy secret information" I was being sarcastic. I got no more than anyone else.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...Cute... But it's no good unless it works!!! Hello Bob? Excuse me, Mr. Frey Sir... do you want all these new posters to think that you are a big mean guy? C'mon buddy...I'll give ya a penny...
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Thanks 10of13... the other 12 are lucky to have you.
Posted by GreenDay on :
cool - thanks tax
I'm soo tired. I want to put this computer down, but I have a feeling it will be another late night. Anyone thinking we might get a midnight news?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Executive section of the website has been updated as follows:
Rufus Paul Harris - Chief Executive Officer and President JesusPower1 – Chief Lunatic Officer Mother Harris – Investor Relations / HSM Liaison Mrs. Harris – Human Resources Michael Alexander – Paddle Boat Captain of the Amazon Solid Chocolate – Chief Financial Officer
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Too funny...I agree with this 100%...thanks Port.
quote:Originally posted by portman: OK, I am going to explain it one time and only one time....
It is NOT the KNOW BOAT....
It's the NO BOAT.
As in I have done enough DD and if you ask me if I will sell the answer is NO.
Yes, you all have permission to board!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Kevin,
You might be thinking different come Thanksgiving or Christmas...
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: One thing I'll say for you all is you're brave...
braver than you.
Between bravery and brains, I'll take brains...
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Kevin,
You might be thinking different come Thanksgiving or Christmas...
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: One thing I'll say for you all is you're brave...
braver than you.
Between bravery and brains, I'll take brains...
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Please, oh please, Thanksgiving! Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I'm going to go out on a limb here & I'm sure some people will think I'm nuts (nothing new) but I think perhaps we are close to having an MM but I think that if we were to be quoted right now by an MM I don't think they would start it at 1.99. I think it will be HIGHER!!!
OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
*raises hand*
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thanksgiving OR Christmas? I vote for Thanksgiving- not sure I can take more than another month LOL!
Posted by glassman on :
shoot Frank, i was saying i can't take another month in September... somehow we survived it tho...
Posted by 3403 on :
We can't do anything except hypothesize until Rufus comes back with a PR or something. As we already know with Rufus there isn't a lack of PR''s or interviews, LOL. Sooo go back to your familys, have fun and wait.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
The Good News: Rufus is back.
The Bad News: Rufus is back.
That's how I see it, lol. I still think it will be months - if not over a year until we trade on a board other than the greys again. Sorry but these things take a ton of time and everybody involved moves slower than molasses.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
thumbs up to you cat, if we had to pm investors to find out about our stock, well then, time for me to dump..... however i did pick up another 4000 shares today... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Anyone know if Mike Alexander was able to secure these funds listed in this Market Wire PR date Nov 2005? Im curious
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Its just too easy to sit back and say I told you so after it works out and if it doesn't , poof they are gone like the wind . Portman has not provided anything special other than his smug remarks about the ignorance certain members on this board have .
No one knows anything out of the ordinary about this stock that has not been mentioned before .
MA took over and its for the best , Rufus takes back over and now thats for the best . Truth be known , no one can prove this one way or the other right now .
If I am wrong , call me out and show me the smoking gun . My guess is they won't because they can't ........
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Anyone know if Mike Alexander was able to secure these funds listed in this Market Wire PR? Im curious
Thats the toxic financing.
Posted by highhopes on :
I for one would rather see those people post and make my own decision about how I process the information. The board would not be a very interesting place to go if all that was posted was....Wait for a PR. To me the purpose of the boards is to share opinions and information and it is up to each of us to determine what we choose to believe.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: The Good News: Rufus is back.
The Bad News: Rufus is back.
That's how I see it, lol. I still think it will be months - if not over a year until we trade on a board other than the greys again. Sorry but these things take a ton of time and everybody involved moves slower than molasses.
uncle smelly, i believe we will be on an excellent exchange really soon, if, it takes forever to get to the otcbb, well i believe rufus will say forget it !! and just do another merger, I think we will be happy really soon..IMO
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I wish everyone would make up their minds! People scream bring me facts, cut out all this heresay and I heard this rumor stuff.
So people decide to hold off sharing information that they believe may not be totally validated and everyone screams "Foul!" you should bring ALL information out in the open!
You can NOT have it both ways on this board people!!!
I prefer people keep their speculation and heresay to themselves until they are confident to bring it up. Even if it is waiting till it happens, and then saying "I knew about that!". It was only a matter of time till people on this board started to make some friends, let them have them, and let them chat about what they wish to chat about.
I know I like RichBy26 as a fellow stock board poster, but honestly I do not need to hear his questions to WV about Charlotte, NC. I used to live near Lake Norman, and work downtown. I can not say I really enjoyed the place. I thin WV would be a much better resource.
LOL
Grow up! Or at least act like you might be. Stop picking fights.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I for one would rather see those people post and make my own decision about how I process the information. The board would not be a very interesting place to go if all that was posted was....Wait for a PR. To me the purpose of the boards is to share opinions and information and it is up to each of us to determine what we choose to believe.
I totally agree with what you are saying in regards to people posting their opinions. But, in some cases these people are posting more than their opinions, they are just re-posting something that someone else told them. Isnt that known as a "chinese whisper" or something like that? Rumors being passed on down the line until the rumor gets to messed up it doesnt even represent the original rumor? I dont know...something like that.
Also, implying that people are idiots because theyre not getting info "directly" from Tuts brothers uncles neighbor is just wrong.
To make matters worse, if the information being passed on is actually FACT then they are openly passing on insider information. Im sure the SEC appreciates the help.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Hows the fishing? HA!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Hows the fishing? HA!
Confused...but can you answer the question?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I'm going to go out on a limb here & I'm sure some people will think I'm nuts (nothing new) but I think perhaps we are close to having an MM but I think that if we were to be quoted right now by an MM I don't think they would start it at 1.99. I think it will be HIGHER!!!
OK- who thinks I'm nuts?
*raises hand*
I seen that!!! now as TexasMoney says "No soup for you!"
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Hows the fishing? HA!
Confused...but can you answer the question?
Since its a boring evening I will bite-
The extension is 5 days and we aren't "Now" a pink sheet. We have been a pink sheet since the 7th.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
I would think that its going to be filed whether its required or not since they went through the effort of filing the NT10Q . As for the date due , its 5 calendar days from the original due date of the 10Q .
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I can go look for it for you if you wish. I know it is only about 15 pages back. It has been discussed to exhaustion every day prior to and imediately after the NT-10Q was filed.
On another thought I will when I have time, getting logged into SPR.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I can go look for it for you if you wish. I know it is only about 15 pages back. It has been discussed to exhaustion every day prior to and imediately after the NT-10Q was filed.
On another thought I will when I have time, getting logged into SPR.
sorry, ive been looking on HSM CSHD thread
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Thank you Bob! You too 10 Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Thank you Bob! You too 10
Did you get tax relief?? LOL
Oh I mean PM back??
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Thank you Bob! You too 10
Did you get tax relief?? LOL
Oh I mean PM back??
Yes sir.
Posted by 10of13 on :
It's due the 20th....per SPR last night and the filing.. And thanks also to the man behind the curtain... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
22 Here is one from the last thread.
quote: tanks aka chevyrider Member
Member Rated: posted November 13, 2006 12:21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People we are required to file the only reason we are on the Grey Market is because we don't have a MM for us at this time. We are a reporting compant therefore we are required to file if we want the chance of going back to the otcbb when we have a MM in place. thats a fact jack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 65 | Registered: Oct 2006 | IP: Logged |
About 10 posts away from this post:
quote: stocktrader22 Member
posted November 13, 2006 13:42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You guys crack me up. CSHD is nothing but a team of people with a shady past who have only failed in business. DD it for yourself. 10Q isnt due when you are on the grey sheets. This play is over. I will lose my money, but I was just playing this for a chance of a lifetime. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3113 | Registered: Jun 2004 | IP: Logged |
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 22 Here is one from the last thread.
quote: tanks aka chevyrider Member
Member Rated: posted November 13, 2006 12:21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People we are required to file the only reason we are on the Grey Market is because we don't have a MM for us at this time. We are a reporting compant therefore we are required to file if we want the chance of going back to the otcbb when we have a MM in place. thats a fact jack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 65 | Registered: Oct 2006 | IP: Logged |
About 10 posts away from this post:
quote: stocktrader22 Member
posted November 13, 2006 13:42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You guys crack me up. CSHD is nothing but a team of people with a shady past who have only failed in business. DD it for yourself. 10Q isnt due when you are on the grey sheets. This play is over. I will lose my money, but I was just playing this for a chance of a lifetime. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3113 | Registered: Jun 2004 | IP: Logged |
Gracias. I still think this all turning out all right is a long shot, however having Rufus back does give me more confidence.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Hows the fishing? HA!
Confused...but can you answer the question?
So are you still confused by my question. You seemed very confident that the "shady characters" didn't "need" to file, and now you are asking if they "needed" to file. Maybe if you weren't so clear, I would be the one confused.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Can someone clarify an important question?
The NT-10Q was filed, so when is the 10Q now officially due? Also since we are now a pink sheet, we arent even required to file correct?
Hows the fishing? HA!
Confused...but can you answer the question?
So are you still confused by my question. You seemed very confident that the "shady characters" didn't "need" to file, and now you are asking if they "needed" to file. Maybe if you weren't so clear, I would be the one confused.
lol...beeen a long weeek for me, and frustrated with this BS. There's no doubt the characters are shady, but maybe they can pull through for once? I mean come on, who lets shareholders come over to Rufus's horse stables where there are expensive horses if he was scamming us? But then again, he may not be scamming us, but pps may never be what it should be at.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: There's no doubt the characters are shady, but maybe they can pull through for once? I mean come on, who lets shareholders come over to Rufus's horse stables where there are expensive horses if he was scamming us? But then again, he may not be scamming us, but pps may never be what it should be at.
So they can see the new horse they bought him, duh. Posted by GreenDay on :
Simon talking about us having Rufus back.
Posted by lostone on :
wow, 2 mil volume today..
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: check this out peeps:
Looks like some new names that need some DD'ing. Anybody started looking at these? Good find 66!
Posted by TimW on :
Im going to go by waatles office tomorrow, its only a few miles from me.. that is if it is a REAL office, and not a personal address.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Take a few pictures.
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Im going to go by waatles office tomorrow, its only a few miles from me.. that is if it is a REAL office, and not a personal address.
Posted by TimW on :
Just looked it up on mapquest.. its definetly not a commerical location.. its at Val Vista lakes.. I have alot of customers there.. Very high dollar neighborhood.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I don't think you are going to find Waatle's office in AZ.
Domestic Address 1226 E SEA BREEZE DR GILBERT, AZ 85234
Second Corp. Address 125 TOWNPARK DRIVE SUITE 300 KENNESAW, GA 30144
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Just looked it up on mapquest.. its definetly not a commerical location.. its at Val Vista lakes.. I have alot of customers there.. Very high dollar neighborhood.
Posted by TimW on :
Yea i overlooked "domestic address"... what is that for anyways... a domestic address in az and second corp address in GA
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
I have never seen a company get quoted off the greys...
I would not assume every brokerage get data at the same time. Just like everyone did not show the E at the same time.
It could depend on backoffice processing time frames...I really do not know.
All I know is I have seen a B&A from CSHD on my TDA streamer all week. The B&A is the same 1.50 x 1.99 everyone else is seeing.
I do not in any way doubt phil.
I am only providing the facts...and man do I ever want to see a MM on this one.
Unlike the teapot/mini-tempest I inadvertently stirred with my opinion of the caliber of "Tut"'s posts, this I believe is worthy of solid DD: how are *any* Bid/Ask ranges being displayed? Why this particular range?
Given, of course, that it's true...
Myself, I can *not* verify...no access to TDA, etc, etc...
These sorts of mechanics can reveal valuable info.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I'm not 100% sure but my understanding is your broker/dealer either has an in-house market maker or an external one. Regardless, grey sheet transactions would be processed by the market maker used by your broker/dealer. I use Charles Schwab and I see the similar anomalies that have been reported by others. Ironically, when I do see these phantom market makers on my L2 they are greyed out. This has been the case the entire time we were suspended and trading grey sheet.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Port- How does it work - if TDA has a MM - they are the only ones seeing the ask & bid like that....What happens to the people with Scottrade?
I have never seen a company get quoted off the greys...
I would not assume every brokerage get data at the same time. Just like everyone did not show the E at the same time.
It could depend on backoffice processing time frames...I really do not know.
All I know is I have seen a B&A from CSHD on my TDA streamer all week. The B&A is the same 1.50 x 1.99 everyone else is seeing.
I do not in any way doubt phil.
I am only providing the facts...and man do I ever want to see a MM on this one.
Unlike the teapot/mini-tempest I inadvertently stirred with my opinion of the caliber of "Tut"'s posts, this I believe is worthy of solid DD: how are *any* Bid/Ask ranges being displayed? Why this particular range?
Given, of course, that it's true...
Myself, I can *not* verify...no access to TDA, etc, etc...
These sorts of mechanics can reveal valuable info.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Thanksgiving OR Christmas? I vote for Thanksgiving- not sure I can take more than another month LOL!
"The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
Posted by T e x on :
ya...some "brokerages" are also part of the same corporate structure as related "broker/dealers/."
Clearly a conflict of interest to my way of thinking, lol--but, then I don't get make the rules. wah...
I'm not, however, asking about the "regular" anomalies...instead, I'm asking for evidence that shows some traders can have bid/ask displayed...while other traders can *not.*
make sense?
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
I am so sorry this post came out again, I am not very good on this computer, as if you all haven't figured this out by now. I was in profile trying to get back to the board and I keep hitting buttons ,then so "thank you for posting" and I'm like, oh no, sure enough, there it was again. Guess I'm too old to teach new tricks ha-ha. I do respect most of the people on here and I sure don't want to cause problems, sorry again.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: c
Good points, we are all in this together!
I am so sorry this post came out again, I am not very good on this computer, as if you all haven't figured this out by now. I was in profile trying to get back to the board and I keep hitting buttons ,then so "thank you for posting" and I'm like, oh no, sure enough, there it was again. Guess I'm too old to teach new tricks ha-ha. I do respect most of the people on here and I sure don't want to cause problems, sorry again.
Hey Ma!, surfin a little late tonight? Posted by unclerudy on :
Looks like we have a bunch of family members on this board reading this stuff. Peoples moms, dads, brothers, friends, colleagues, neighbors, and many others. People from the same cities, root for the same football teams, people who like to drink the same beer.
And who said that was only for porn?
Posted by Jenna on :
Hi Momma!
Posted by Jenna on :
Well, it looks like your everybody's Uncle!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
By the way she's not my mom, I just call her momma....
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way she's not my mom, I just call her momma....
Hi everyone! Cat, aren't you surfing late also. Haha. I wish I could get that last post deleted.Yes I am a nerd!!!!
Posted by CRab on :
Ocqueoc, You can edit it by clicking the little sheet and pencil and delete/edit what ever you like...although, there is a time limit involved so you can't take to long...
Posted by Vin on :
Hello all! Just dropping in to say a quick howdy and hope that everyone is doing well. From the looks of it, I've got a LOT of reading to do. Between my new job and starting my own business, I just don't have time to hang out here too much. Tell you one thing, it sure would have been easier if this thing hit a few months ago...could have save me a bunch of work! Anyway, hello all. Hope this still works out for us!
Take care.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
NOOOOOOOO!
no carrots, no dangling....
seriously?
the "pump-style" banter and "pump vs bash" personal stuff should, imo, mostly go "off topic." That is, to an "off topic" thread or PMs...
Why?
In the past, this has been a "premier board," noticed Web-wide for its DD and hard-nosed dialog. Should that matter to any/all of you, seems to me we should make this thread live up to its title...
Given the uniqueness of this play? We here at Allstocks should be unique...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way she's not my mom, I just call her momma....
Shes a good Mom. You cant go wrong adopting a stock Mom with her personality. Although, she seems to have a CSHD addictive personality. Posted by portman on :
Oh Tex...Catia is cool here.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
NOOOOOOOO!
no carrots, no dangling....
seriously?
the "pump-style" banter and "pump vs bash" personal stuff should, imo, mostly go "off topic." That is, to an "off topic" thread or PMs...
Why?
In the past, this has been a "premier board," noticed Web-wide for its DD and hard-nosed dialog. Should that matter to any/all of you, seems to me we should make this thread live up to its title...
Given the uniqueness of this play? We here at Allstocks should be unique...
Im not sure if you are agreeing with me or misunderstood. Alough i have posted my share of speculative posts some emotional posts, im trying to out a stop to it. I want to see the carrot dangling go away.
Were you saying you dont want them to leave or you support them. No im confused as well. Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Ocqueoc, You can edit it by clicking the little sheet and pencil and delete/edit what ever you like...although, there is a time limit involved so you can't take to long...
Thanks Crab, It was too late, but at least I tried.I hope I didn't cause problems. GLTA
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way she's not my mom, I just call her momma....
Shes a good Mom. You cant go wrong adopting a stock Mom with her personality. Although, she seems to have a CSHD addictive personality.
That's why I call her Momma....
Posted by portman on :
What I think we all want is less or clearly identified speculation vs. what we all actually DD.
There are so many ways for us to speculate and we all have.
Tex likes facts.
Posted by Jenna on :
Tex- Fact: I'm going to bed--- Good night
************************************************* Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams!!!! *************************************************
Posted by portman on :
One thing I noticed is that I became a little too trigger happy on negative posters.
So...thesource and anyone else...sorry.
Now the guy who came speculating pump and dump...he deserved it.
I was a bit too snide at times. So I'll be more calm now. Mostly I post in haste so I am direct and often do not state everything as nice as I should. I will try harder folks.
Good NITE all.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: One thing I noticed is that I became a little too trigger happy on negative posters.
So...thesource and anyone else...sorry.
Now the guy who came speculating pump and dump...he deserved it.
I was a bit too snide at times. So I'll be more calm now. Mostly I post in haste so I am direct and often do not state everything as nice as I should. I will try harder folks.
Good NITE all.
The guy who cried Pump and Dump got the full allstocks treatment for such posts. Its ok to discuss negative things but guy actualy based our future on a chart of a greay sheet stock, that was with E for a while AND suspended. Facts where laid out foer him and he mostly faded. It happens i suppose
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: What I think we all want is less or clearly identified speculation vs. what we all actually DD.
There are so many ways for us to speculate and we all have.
Tex likes facts.
Portman,remember the last time i got up the nerve to post and got in trouble? Well, guess I better stay off of here from now on.{ha-ha)
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its almost like we have our own Tut here in Allstocks now.....but they share the responsibility.
Sorry guys (Portman and St Matthew), i have a lot of respect for the both of you but its obvious both of you are getting information from another source and if youre not comfortable posting it on the board then how about just keeping it totally to yourself insteaad of eluding to the fact that you know more than everyone else.
Guess what, i know some things too. In fact, ive posted a few things recently that pretty much get ignored. But, at least i dont dangle a little carrot on a stick hoping someone will PM me begging for my info. Have i PMd some people regarding info i have come across? Yup, i sure have.
Knowledge is power, please dont let it go to your heads. We are all in this together. If there are things that you arent comfortable telling other people then why bother "hinting" about it on the boards? Maybe i should just post the things I know and take all the power away from you....now that sounds like fun!
As i said, i respect you both and i appreciate the things you have actually brought to light (mostly St Matthew) but i really dont think we are at a point to be playing games with peoples minds.
All IMO of course, i dont really post much here anymore anyway so have at it.
Good points, we are all in this together!
NOOOOOOOO!
no carrots, no dangling....
seriously?
the "pump-style" banter and "pump vs bash" personal stuff should, imo, mostly go "off topic." That is, to an "off topic" thread or PMs...
Why?
In the past, this has been a "premier board," noticed Web-wide for its DD and hard-nosed dialog. Should that matter to any/all of you, seems to me we should make this thread live up to its title...
Given the uniqueness of this play? We here at Allstocks should be unique...
Im not sure if you are agreeing with me or misunderstood. Alough i have posted my share of speculative posts some emotional posts, im trying to out a stop to it. I want to see the carrot dangling go away.
Were you saying you dont want them to leave or you support them. No im confused as well.
Sorry for any confusion...
and I speculate some, too...but I truly believe we are past the point for the *main thread* here to swing so wildly between:
1) Rufus is God & (soon to be "Golden")
2) Rufus is the Devil (soon to be jailed)
Obviously, I use hyperbole in my example...but for a reason.
make sense?
I see that Portman posts "Tex likes facts."
yup...that is true. Also, I like "informed" guesses and even quality brainstorming.
But what we have now is outta control...from board to board to board...
I suggest we rein it in...on this particular thread...and live up to Allstock's rep.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Thats why I dont post much either besides being pretty busy. I mostly just read. Look at the number of posts and when I was born. Of course JMHO and purely speculation and no links.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tex- Fact: I'm going to bed--- Good night
for real? Jenna, we're overdue to resume our position as a top-notch board....
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by portman: What I think we all want is less or clearly identified speculation vs. what we all actually DD.
There are so many ways for us to speculate and we all have.
Tex likes facts.
Portman,remember the last time i got up the nerve to post and got in trouble? Well, guess I better stay off of here from now on.{ha-ha)
Nope... don't recall...don't care....just need a stock mom....you up for it?
Posted by portman on :
Tex...no matter what thread I see you on there are a few things I see...
1. Voice of reason
2. Sometimes I don't like what you say...when I don't it is because I really just do not want to hear it at the time.
3. Insightful...and so with the fewest amount of words imaginable.
Those were all compliments BTW...lol
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by portman: What I think we all want is less or clearly identified speculation vs. what we all actually DD.
There are so many ways for us to speculate and we all have.
Tex likes facts.
Portman,remember the last time i got up the nerve to post and got in trouble? Well, guess I better stay off of here from now on.{ha-ha)
Nope... don't recall...don't care....just need a stock mom....you up for it?
Sure, I would be up to being a stock mom, but as you have read, I'm not very good on computors, so I"ll just read and keep myself out of trouble.But a few call me mom on here or as Jenna says momma, so fell free for calling me momma , if anyone wants to.
Posted by 6digits on :
Momma mia, Where's that midnight PR at?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Thats what I was kinda of waiting for.
Posted by klondike on :
Posted by portman on :
Ok, folks if you signed up for the Shareholder Committee you should have an email no later than 6 am eastern today.
If not send am email to: register*cshdshareholdercommittee.com where the * is the at symbol.
Please do not register multiple shareholders. One email per shareholder please. Include Name and email.
Posted by a surfer on :
Hello all shareholders. I just wanted to give everyone a quick line to let you know where we are. Rufus Harris has appointed me as the chairman of the shareholders committee. I know that this will be a difficult task to perform alone. Assistance by everyone will be needed if we are to succeed. Currently our website is being constructed. I am working with Rufus on the bylaws of the committee. I do not know much more than you but I do know that this is an important step for us. One voice in a crowded room may not be heard but 800 voices will be loud and clear.
I have a few quotes that speak volumes to my ideas of the committee. One believe it or not was from Babe Ruth: "The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club wont be worth a dime." The other is from Vince Lombardi: "Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work."
One of the first matters of business will be the other two members of the committee. Rufus will give me instruction as to whether we need to vote or if I am to appoint them. More than likely what we will do is use the nomination web page to calculate the amount of times a given person is nominated. After the two additional members are appointed we will conduct and interview more than likely on SPR or use a conference call format. That will be determined. There are many issues that need our immediate attention. Once I hear word from the company as to what the next step is we will inform all of you.
I have received numerous emails from shareholders who included multiply people in their email. With the number of emails please understand that it would have taken forever to enter all of these. If these people wish to be included please have them email me directly.
If anyone has important questions please feel free to email me. There is no need to respond to this email. It does take some time to go through all of these emails and this is not a paying position so please be conscious of the board's time. Thanks for all of the people that have helped me along the way thus far and in the future.
James Gee
Chairman CSHD Shareholders Committee
Posted by frank021474 on :
Surfer-
Was this at the top? You aren't James or are you?
*********************************** *Please DO NOT reply to this email* ***********************************
Subject: CSHD - Shareholder Committee Update - 2006-11-16 04:14:47
Posted by portman on :
There are two versions of the Shareholder email. If you got the first one from James you should have received the second as well. The only difference is the address it came from and some reply to addresses. We also used a donotreply address to send from to catch any bounced emails
One was James trying to blast them out through his hotmail account. That was a lot of manual work.
I had a script that would blast them all out on the server so I loaded it up and altered it a bit with the new email addresses.
James has really been working some long hours on this.
I hope that clears any confusion.
You can also PM me.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thx Portman-
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Thx Portman-
Thanks for your efforts too portman.
And Frank I am Mike.
Posted by 66inxs on :
good morning everyone. it is cold and damp in this neck of the woods.
i agree with tex's reasoning and will do my part in bringing things back to where they need to be.
let's have a good day trading today. GLTA
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Good Morning all! I now feel refreshed with the recent great news.
What will today bring?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Morning guys. Hope everyone has a great day.
Posted by 66inxs on :
let's keep close watch on the cvsu.us website for pr's. maybe today!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Good Morning all! I now feel refreshed with the recent great news.
What will today bring?
Grape or Cherry?
Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning. Is Scottrade down for anyone besides me? 20 stocks in front of me and not one trade shows yet.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning everyone.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Goooood Morning Board! Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning bored. Who is the director of the bored? Posted by luvforever on :
Hello all shareholders. I just wanted to give everyone a quick line to let you know where we are. Rufus Harris has appointed me as the chairman of the shareholders committee. I know that this will be a difficult task to perform alone. Assistance by everyone will be needed if we are to succeed. Currently our website is being constructed. I am working with Rufus on the bylaws of the committee. I do not know much more than you but I do know that this is an important step for us. One voice in a crowded room may not be heard but 800 voices will be loud and clear.
I have a few quotes that speak volumes to my ideas of the committee. One believe it or not was from Babe Ruth: "The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club wont be worth a dime." The other is from Vince Lombardi: "Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work."
One of the first matters of business will be the other two members of the committee. Rufus will give me instruction as to whether we need to vote or if I am to appoint them. More than likely what we will do is use the nomination web page to calculate the amount of times a given person is nominated. After the two additional members are appointed we will conduct and interview more than likely on SPR or use a conference call format. That will be determined. There are many issues that need our immediate attention. Once I hear word from the company as to what the next step is we will inform all of you.
I have received numerous emails from shareholders who included multiple people in their email. With the number of emails please understand that it would have taken forever to enter all of these. If these people wish to be included please have them send email to: register*cshdshareholdercommittee.com.
If anyone has important questions please send email to: info*cshdshareholdercommittee.com There is no need to respond to this email. It does take some time to go through all of these emails and this is not a paying position so please be conscious of the board's time. Thanks for all of the people that have helped me along the way thus far and in the future.
James Gee Chairman CSHD Shareholders Committee
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Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning everyone!
Posted by Chart walker on :
feeling light on your feet today new2?.. Posted by 6digits on :
I figured out my Scottrade is'nt working because I got up an hour early and did'nt look at the clock right. It's not market time yet.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: feeling light on your feet today new2?..
yeah for some strange reason..... Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I figured out my Scottrade is'nt working because I got up an hour early and did'nt look at the clock right. It's not market time yet.
LMAO!
Posted by 6digits on :
FRPT talks about 50 mil and goes to 9 bucks. It's a good thing for them that the SEC was'nt looking out for the shareholders.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: FRPT talks about 50 mil and goes to 9 bucks. It's a good thing for them that the SEC was'nt looking out for the shareholders.
I'm hoping to ride CSHD ALLLLLL the way there! One step at a time.
Posted by Doniboy on :
6digits...whoever told you that the SEC looks out for shareholders? The SEC looks out for investors who are not in yet. Sorry but thats the truth.
Posted by new2stocks on :
chart check your email.
Posted by 6digits on :
Chart, me too. We got tripped on the last step.
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: FRPT talks about 50 mil and goes to 9 bucks. It's a good thing for them that the SEC was'nt looking out for the shareholders.
I'm hoping to ride CSHD ALLLLLL the way there! One step at a time.
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: 6digits...whoever told you that the SEC looks out for shareholders? The SEC looks out for investors who are not in yet. Sorry but thats the truth.
Doniboy, is'nt that the mask they're wearing? Ya I guess i'm safe if I have'nt bought in yet?
Posted by 10of13 on :
6digits? did you call the TA?
Posted by milliam on :
Mighty small volume at the open today. I only show 2 trades this morning. Wonder what the rest of the day will bring.
Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: 6digits? did you call the TA?
10 yes I did. Posted by CRab on :
What happened with the T/A?
Posted by 6digits on :
Do you guys want the truth or should I make up something.
Posted by milliam on :
Give us something in a riddle Posted by 10of13 on :
i think that we are due for some truth...
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Do you guys want the truth or should I make up something.
Posted by 6digits on :
Milliam, here goes the riddle 6 to 1 is very fun but as of now it's become none.
Posted by CRab on :
Soooo...the T/A just said that they haven't spoken about increasing the share structure?
Posted by Jenna on :
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR.CATIAENGINEER!!!!!!
I hope it's a good one!!!
If I could I would give you some "M&M"'s for your Birthday!!!
-Jenna
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Milliam, here goes the riddle 6 to 1 is very fun but as of now it's become none.
I don't like that riddle.
Posted by milliam on :
Pretty good digits...So, the 6:1 is a no go at this time. No surprise there. I still think it will happen.
What about the o\s?
Posted by milliam on :
Hey, today's my birthday too!
Have a good one catia!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Milliam, here goes the riddle 6 to 1 is very fun but as of now it's become none.
Ahh man... Get me a gun!
(And did you get the A/S? or O/S?)
Posted by portman on :
6 to 1 will not show until CSHD both notifies the TA and NASD.
For now I wait.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Milliam, here goes the riddle 6 to 1 is very fun but as of now it's become none.
Rather than making it sound like something ominous, why not explain that until the company instructs the T/A they can say nothing about it. They simply dont know.
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya the T/A told me that the 6-1 deal has been nullified if that's the right word. It just does'nt exist right now. Go figure. I guess it can be declared again. It was Rufus idea originally.
Posted by Jenna on :
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MILLIAM!!!!!
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Hey, today's my birthday too!
Have a good one catia!
Happy Birthday Milliam!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cat's B-Day Milliam's B-Day Maumee's was the 15th Busy week... HAPPY BIRTHDAY ALL!!!!
Posted by milliam on :
Thanks Jenna!
So digits...they actually said "nulilfied"? I didn't think they ever knew anything about it before.
Posted by Jenna on :
Don't worry about the 6:1 right now..........they have another fish to fry at the moment....
Posted by milliam on :
Thanks a surfer and 10...
I guess we scorpios are just drawn into scams . Hopefully NOT!!!!
Posted by SherriT on :
Morning all - having a CRAPPY day so far, but I thought you guys would appreciate this...
Discovered UPS left my baby's portraits on the porch in the rain all day, carpool blocked off at school this morning, 4 yr old doesn't want to eat breakfast at home, but 5 minutes later in the car she is hungry and wanting - yes - McDonald's, I twisted my ankle, etc. etc. At this point, I've decided I should have stayed in bed....I look up, and what do I see? The license plate in front of me says "Godspd". How's that for karma?
Posted by 6digits on :
Milliam, I did'nt ask about that, was'nt on my mind at the time. I wanted to know about the idea of selling shares after the 16th of Oct and still getting the 6, but they could'nt give me a solid answer about that. Uh oh sceptor says I did a bad. Your description is acceptable also. Personally I think Ruf wants it. We will see.
Posted by 66inxs on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Cat's B-Day Milliam's B-Day Maumee's was the 15th Busy week... HAPPY BIRTHDAY ALL!!!!
happy birthday to all. enjoy today!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Priceless!!!
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Morning all - having a CRAPPY day so far, but I thought you guys would appreciate this...
Discovered UPS left my baby's portraits on the porch in the rain all day, carpool blocked off at school this morning, 4 yr old doesn't want to eat breakfast at home, but 5 minutes later in the car she is hungry and wanting - yes - McDonald's, I twisted my ankle, etc. etc. At this point, I've decided I should have stayed in bed....I look up, and what do I see? The license plate in front of me says "Godspd". How's that for karma?
Posted by 6digits on :
Canceled was the word the T/A used, but it was'nt somthing that Don at T/A was'nt aware of.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well from the lack of news, MM update, radio comentary, and filings I speculate Rufus may have got his face to face meeting with the SEC yesterday.
Wish I was a fly on the wall for that meeting. We got any flys that attended around here?
TB
Posted by 6digits on :
SherriT, Thats cool. I have sometimes thought that there were subliminal messages concealed on license plates. I hope you get better quick.
Posted by blanco4444 on :
DELL has the SEC on their a$$ because of a late fillings
Posted by RichBy26 on :
sorry for my "off topic" post yesterday Tax. I have learned my lesson and I will not bring my personal questions onto this board Now all of those posting about their Birthdays, please STOP your posting and keep your thoughts on the stock! LOL J/K, Tax! I had to get a good laugh in this morning!
Your point is well taken... Did you ever track down your stock cert?
Posted by Bo Gusman on :
Happy birthday Catia and Milliam
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the penny market.... Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Bo Gusman: Happy birthday Catia and Milliam
Diddo!! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: SherriT, Thats cool. I have sometimes thought that there were subliminal messages concealed on license plates. I hope you get better quick.
WTF? I think they make a special med for that. Check the anti-psychotic section of your local pharmacy.
I think it may have just been a coincedence. LOL!
Posted by 6digits on :
Taxman is coming for me again. Just a concidence. I have a huge imagination. I can't be too far gone, i'm buying the same stock as the rest of you. LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: sorry for my "off topic" post yesterday Tax. I have learned my lesson and I will not bring my personal questions onto this board Now all of those posting about their Birthdays, please STOP your posting and keep your thoughts on the stock! LOL J/K, Tax! I had to get a good laugh in this morning!
Your point is well taken... Did you ever track down your stock cert?
Rich no harm meant... I was just using your post as an example. You were right trying to take it offline and PM wv1973.
Just everybody was getting freaked out about the amout of PMs going on. I was just making a point that sometimes people PM, to talk about other subjects like Charlotte social culture. No harm meant honestly. What you PM someone is your business.
Posted by thesource on :
Can anyone confirm that CSHD and now Rufus again has retained a good legal team for this chaos .
Posted by thesource on :
Can anyone confirm that CSHD and now Rufus again has retained a good legal team for this chaos .
Posted by 10of13 on :
Rufus said on SPR that he was not aware of any being hired...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Can anyone confirm that CSHD and now Rufus again has retained good a good legal team for this chaos .
Posted by RichBy26 on :
no harm, just having fun. What's up with your cert?
Posted by frank021474 on :
thesource-
Why do you keep concerning yourself with this question?
Is there some court date coming up that you think they aren't on top of?
-fw
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Well, of the two scam stocks I own, at least CHSD's CEO isn't this guy: Posted by RichBy26 on :
LOL Jo! I feel bad for those holding that stock today, it has taken a beating...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: thesource-
Why do you keep concerning yourself with this question?
Is there some court date coming up that you think they aren't on top of?
-fw
I'm concerned because the Judge has already instructed CSHD and Rufus to get a lawyer . They can't rep. themself for the company and thats a fact .
Anyone that thinks the SEC is just going to drop this is crazy . They might not prove fraud but I'm sure they will come back with something else .
Why wait to hire a lawyer ? They know damn good and well they will need one sooner or later .
Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote:LOL Jo! I feel bad for those holding that stock today,
meekly raising hand....
Lucky for me, FRPT is absorbing the SLJB pain.
Jo
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: no harm, just having fun. What's up with your cert?
Shhh... E*trade doesn't want to talk about that!
Talked to the TA they sent it back through the DTC on 10/12 (well over a month ago) Etrade has been sitting on it ever since. I have a complaint filed with their customer service department with a ref number. I don't think they expected me to have already talked with the TA and have the date and Cert number. They "are working hard to correct the situation.". LOL Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: thesource-
Why do you keep concerning yourself with this question?
Is there some court date coming up that you think they aren't on top of?
-fw
I'm concerned because the Judge has already instructed CSHD and Rufus to get a lawyer . They can't rep. themself for the company and thats a fact .
Anyone that thinks the SEC is just going to drop this is crazy . They might not prove fraud but I'm sure they will come back with something else .
Why wait to hire a lawyer ? They know damn good and well they will need one sooner or later .
So when is sooner or later to you? If there is no way the sec can prove fraud because the bonds really are cshd's just when do you expect the sec to run into court proving it.
Posted by Lootcifer on :
Hey Chartwalker your PM BOX is full, I need to ask you a question
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Happy Birthday ,Catia,to a wonderful son! Mom and DAD
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: thesource-
Why do you keep concerning yourself with this question?
Is there some court date coming up that you think they aren't on top of?
-fw
I'm concerned because the Judge has already instructed CSHD and Rufus to get a lawyer . They can't rep. themself for the company and thats a fact .
Anyone that thinks the SEC is just going to drop this is crazy . They might not prove fraud but I'm sure they will come back with something else .
Why wait to hire a lawyer ? They know damn good and well they will need one sooner or later .
So when is sooner or later to you? If there is no way the sec can prove fraud because the bonds really are cshd's just when do you expect the sec to run into court proving it.
At this point the SEC has the green light to do anything they want with Rufus or CSHD . Just because CSHD and Rufus might feel they are innocent doesn't mean the SEC or the Judge in the case feels the same way . How many multibillion dollar companies do not have atleast one or two lawyers on retainer ?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: This is what we need.
Would be nice. The only thing I really didn't like was the fact that the investigation started in April 2005, and they are just announcing an end to it - 1 1/2 years later Posted by frank021474 on :
If ANY trials come up I am sure that an ATTY will be present- specializing in whatever the case is in regards to. As of now the ball is in the court of the SEC to make a case. If they do I suppose THEN CSHD will venture down the path of an Atty (Or at least maybe sharing it with the public...since you and I aren't part of the corp operations why would they fill me in on the status of company legal counsel?).
To sit and wonder everyday who they retained makes no sense to me. The judge was referring to when they come back on 11/7 to make sure an atty is present to represent the company. Since they had NO COURT on 11/7 they did not return with an ATTY.
I am not saying that all of the folks involved with Penny stock companies are golden- but hey somehow they got into positions making 300k+ per year plus stock options.
To think they are running around flying by the seat of their pants as if they run a lemonade stand seems ridiculous. If they need lawyers they get lawyers- to assume they haven't retained one seems also ridiculous.
Posted by new2stocks on :
jenna check your pms
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: thesource-
Why do you keep concerning yourself with this question?
Is there some court date coming up that you think they aren't on top of?
-fw
I'm concerned because the Judge has already instructed CSHD and Rufus to get a lawyer . They can't rep. themself for the company and thats a fact .
Anyone that thinks the SEC is just going to drop this is crazy . They might not prove fraud but I'm sure they will come back with something else .
Why wait to hire a lawyer ? They know damn good and well they will need one sooner or later .
So when is sooner or later to you? If there is no way the sec can prove fraud because the bonds really are cshd's just when do you expect the sec to run into court proving it.
At this point the SEC has the green light to do anything they want with Rufus or CSHD . Just because CSHD and Rufus might feel they are innocent doesn't mean the SEC or the Judge in the case feels the same way . How many multibillion dollar companies do not have atleast one or two lawyers on retainer ?
I didnt ask for your fears. I asked when do you think sooner or later is. If they cant prove fraud because the bonds actually do belong to cshd, just when do you expect them to run into court proving that.
Posted by Doniboy on :
When asked by a regular why he liked CSHD a poster at Ibash gave this answer. I thought it was a good, succinct overview of how most of us feel.
Posted by: cshdwinner In reply to: serfdom who wrote msg# 131831 Date:11/16/2006 8:41:27 AM Post #of 131870
The first thing I like is the business plan for the hypothecation of the bonds as an asset management company. The Management seems to have there responsibilities in the right place as far as taking care of the shareholders. Next is the fact that I actually did the research to verify the bonds and making phone calls to my satisfaction on the assets that we have and I feel 100% confident in what we have. Last piece of the puzzle is the fact that by continuing to hold your shares whatever spinoff the company has will have a portion spinned off to its current shareholdetrs and thus a stock that continues to give.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by blanco4444: DELL has the SEC on their a$$ because of a late fillings
Saw that...Waiting to see if they get halted and drop like a rock, lose their market makers.??
If they follow the CSHD lead they should be at about $4.00 per share in 2 weeks. Posted by Doniboy on :
PMS??? Thats kind of rude? LOL...
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: jenna check your pms
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Does anyone feel like the SEC has our interest at heart? I'm sick of this **** and want to call them right now. Does anyone have the contact information for the SEC attorneys?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If ANY trials come up I am sure that an ATTY will be present- specializing in whatever the case is in regards to. As of now the ball is in the court of the SEC to make a case. If they do I suppose THEN CSHD will venture down the path of an Atty (Or at least maybe sharing it with the public...since you and I aren't part of the corp operations why would they fill me in on the status of company legal counsel?).
To sit and wonder everyday who they retained makes no sense to me. The judge was referring to when they come back on 11/7 to make sure an atty is present to represent the company. Since they had NO COURT on 11/7 they did not return with an ATTY.
I am not saying that all of the folks involved with Penny stock companies are golden- but hey somehow they got into positions making 300k+ per year plus stock options.
To think they are running around flying by the seat of their pants as if they run a lemonade stand seems ridiculous. If they need lawyers they get lawyers- to assume they haven't retained one seems also ridiculous.
This investigation is far from over and CSHD + Rufus better get off their a$$ and hire someone . The longer they take , the longer it will take to get the lawyer up to speed on things .
As for the pay , none of the people originally hired are still with the company except for Rufus and the overseas guy . Unless I missed something , all of the others are gone . So who's making $300K+ a year ? As far as I know , none of them even pulled a check while they were there . Correct me if I'm wrong .
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
22 and Sherri ~ according to the court documents. The SEC started out investigation in June, so it has already been ongoing.
Additionally, I can point out 20 or more companies that have an SEC investigation ongoing. They continue on with business as usual. There is a HUGE difference between investigation and suspension. Suspension is the "kiss of death" and yet some how we were resurected. Investigation... that was one of two stories today alone that came out of an SEC investigation squeeaky clean. Buck-up lil'campers. We are not dead yet.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Does anyone feel like the SEC has our interest at heart? I'm sick of this **** and want to call them right now. Does anyone have the contact information for the SEC attorneys?
I just went to the web site and filed a complaint. (I haven't seen the black helicopters yet...) Ohh! living in fear!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Does anyone feel like the SEC has our interest at heart? I'm sick of this **** and want to call them right now. Does anyone have the contact information for the SEC attorneys?
Nope. Yep. Nope.
But good luck....
Posted by new2stocks on :
LMAO!!
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: PMS??? Thats kind of rude? LOL...
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: jenna check your pms
Posted by new2stocks on :
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 22 and Sherri ~ according to the court documents. The SEC started out investigation in June, so it has already been ongoing.
Additionally, I can point out 20 or more companies that have an SEC investigation ongoing. They continue on with business as usual. There is a HUGE difference between investigation and suspension. Suspension is the "kiss of death" and yet some how we were resurected. Investigation... that was one of two stories today alone that came out of an SEC investigation squeeaky clean. Buck-up lil'campers. We are not dead yet.
I'm still feeling fine with this one - just wish it would hurry up Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If ANY trials come up I am sure that an ATTY will be present- specializing in whatever the case is in regards to. As of now the ball is in the court of the SEC to make a case. If they do I suppose THEN CSHD will venture down the path of an Atty (Or at least maybe sharing it with the public...since you and I aren't part of the corp operations why would they fill me in on the status of company legal counsel?).
To sit and wonder everyday who they retained makes no sense to me. The judge was referring to when they come back on 11/7 to make sure an atty is present to represent the company. Since they had NO COURT on 11/7 they did not return with an ATTY.
I am not saying that all of the folks involved with Penny stock companies are golden- but hey somehow they got into positions making 300k+ per year plus stock options.
To think they are running around flying by the seat of their pants as if they run a lemonade stand seems ridiculous. If they need lawyers they get lawyers- to assume they haven't retained one seems also ridiculous.
This investigation is far from over and CSHD + Rufus better get off their a$$ and hire someone . The longer they take , the longer it will take to get the lawyer up to speed on things .
As for the pay , none of the people originally hired are still with the company except for Rufus and the overseas guy . Unless I missed something , all of the others are gone . So who's making $300K+ a year ? As far as I know , none of them even pulled a check while they were there . Correct me if I'm wrong .
I wasn't speaking only of CSHD. I was speaking of companies in general.
You speak of this investigation and Court case as being far from over- please indicate WHAT future court date you are worrying so much about? Sure we know the SEC will continue to disect the company but since no new complaints have been filed and the judge has ruled on expedited discovery only what else should they be doing?
Do I think they are sitting on their Laurels surfing the internet despite the SEC investigation? Of course not- For you to speculate very angrily that they HAVE no attorneys is just as bad as me YELLING THEY DO.
Nobody knows except the folks in the company. My point earlier was- why speculate so much?
Wait for a court date or something and then check into who the representation is. If for some stupid reason they DON'T have an attorney THEN get angry- but getting angry about them "sitting on their a$$" is unecessary speculation.
Posted by 6digits on :
Is that SLJB guy in the picture explaining the advantages of NETFLIX or is he refering to something else. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I would like some info... too. Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I didnt ask for your fears. I asked when do you think sooner or later is. If they cant prove fraud because the bonds actually do belong to cshd, just when do you expect them to run into court proving that.
This case is not just about the bonds . According to the suit filed it has several different things including the bonds . Any one of them can cause enough damage to sink this ship so why not have a lawyer up to speed just in case . IMO , this company is only rich on paper and cannot afford good legal counsel . Also another thing to think about , if this case was a home run for CSHD , I would think they would have no trouble getting a big time firm to rep. them . I think most of the lawyers that have been contacted don't want to touch it .
As for my fears , I'm not afraid of anything in this case . I've already lost 80% of my investment . The only two options now are losing the rest of it or making all of it back .
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Lootcifer: Hey Chartwalker your PM BOX is full, I need to ask you a question
Ok ~
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I didnt ask for your fears. I asked when do you think sooner or later is. If they cant prove fraud because the bonds actually do belong to cshd, just when do you expect them to run into court proving that.
This case is not just about the bonds . According to the suit filed it has several different things including the bonds . Any one of them can cause enough damage to sink this ship so why not have a lawyer up to speed just in case . IMO , this company is only rich on paper and cannot afford good legal counsel . Also another thing to think about , if this case was a home run for CSHD , I would think they would have no trouble getting a big time firm to rep. them . I think most of the lawyers that have been contacted don't want to touch it .
As for my fears , I'm not afraid of anything in this case . I've already lost 80% of my investment . The only two options now are losing the rest of it or making all of it back .
doesnt sound like you arent afraid to me. If you really held the position of losing it all or gaining it all you wouldnt have every post laden with fear based speculation.
Personally I think you are looking to create doubt in the stock. None of your posts have ever spoken positively of them. Thats never found in actual stock holders.
Posted by Doniboy on :
I have to agree with Source. We should have a lawyer... plain and simple, no doubt about it. GET A LAWYER RUFUS.
OK, that being said, there is nothing we can do about it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I didnt ask for your fears. I asked when do you think sooner or later is. If they cant prove fraud because the bonds actually do belong to cshd, just when do you expect them to run into court proving that.
This case is not just about the bonds . According to the suit filed it has several different things including the bonds . Any one of them can cause enough damage to sink this ship so why not have a lawyer up to speed just in case . IMO , this company is only rich on paper and cannot afford good legal counsel . Also another thing to think about , if this case was a home run for CSHD , I would think they would have no trouble getting a big time firm to rep. them . I think most of the lawyers that have been contacted don't want to touch it .
As for my fears , I'm not afraid of anything in this case . I've already lost 80% of my investment . The only two options now are losing the rest of it or making all of it back .
Actually, this case is all about the bonds. Read the complaint again. Or read my disection of the charges on the last thread. All the stuff about Rufus's incorrect filings/PRs and recklessness is negated if infact the bonds are 100% theirs.
Oh yeah you forgot the third option... "The only two options now are losing the rest of it or making all of it back." or making all of it back and more. Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I didnt ask for your fears. I asked when do you think sooner or later is. If they cant prove fraud because the bonds actually do belong to cshd, just when do you expect them to run into court proving that.
This case is not just about the bonds . According to the suit filed it has several different things including the bonds . Any one of them can cause enough damage to sink this ship so why not have a lawyer up to speed just in case . IMO , this company is only rich on paper and cannot afford good legal counsel . Also another thing to think about , if this case was a home run for CSHD , I would think they would have no trouble getting a big time firm to rep. them . I think most of the lawyers that have been contacted don't want to touch it .
As for my fears , I'm not afraid of anything in this case . I've already lost 80% of my investment . The only two options now are losing the rest of it or making all of it back .
Ok now you are speculating they have been digging for firms and they have been declined???? Come on! You are speculating again-
You mention "according to the suit filed": It asks for a lot more than the judge granted. yes it does. Did you compare the complaint to the order?
Compare the two and think to yourself- why didn't the judge grant everything the SEC wanted???? The complaint asks for CSHDs head on a platter- all they got was a promise to not break the law and not destroy documents during the expedited discovery process.
Nobody is saying that the legal worries and tribulations are over. All I am saying is you are speaking of this as if we have some sort of ongoing COURT trial with no Attorney and WE DON'T!
There is no upcoming court date! The SEC has x-amount of days to find more evidence. I dont know what the date of discovery ending is so I put X.
The walls are not caving in so get out of the earthquake shelter. This can go bad JUST as much as it can go good. Considering the evidence has been in front of the judge and he denied the request of the SEC once- I lean towards good. But of course I could be wrong and the SEC could hit a home run.
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Does anyone feel like the SEC has our interest at heart? I'm sick of this **** and want to call them right now. Does anyone have the contact information for the SEC attorneys?
Rufus publically stated this was a trap for the shorts and how devestating it would be with the 6 to 1 share divy. Yes, Maybe the SEC has someone elses interests at heart besides the shareholders. Now I will watch for black helicopters!! JMO
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I have to agree with Source. We should have a lawyer... plain and simple, no doubt about it. GET A LAWYER RUFUS.
OK, that being said, there is nothing we can do about it.
Doni... are you not reading septor's points? Do we KNOW if they do not have a lawyer? All we know is that they did not show up for the CANCELLED hearing. If CSHD doen't have one then they had better have one for ANY future court dates. Which currently there are none scheduled.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I wasn't speaking only of CSHD. I was speaking of companies in general.
You speak of this investigation and Court case as being far from over- please indicate WHAT future court date you are worrying so much about? Sure we know the SEC will continue to disect the company but since no new complaints have been filed and the judge has ruled on expedited discovery only what else should they be doing?
Do I think they are sitting on their Laurels surfing the internet despite the SEC investigation? Of course not- For you to speculate very angrily that they HAVE no attorneys is just as bad as me YELLING THEY DO.
Nobody knows except the folks in the company. My point earlier was- why speculate so much?
Wait for a court date or something and then check into who the representation is. If for some stupid reason they DON'T have an attorney THEN get angry- but getting angry about them "sitting on their a$$" is unecessary speculation.
Do I think they CSHD and Rufus are busting their butts day in and day out to get this resolved ? Hell No I don't .
Do I think the SEC will come back with something else listed in the current suit filed against the company , Hell Yes I do .
Do I think that CSHD or Rufus can stand a chance against the SEC without some stout counsel to rep them , Not a chance in hell .
As for the 7th , only the day before MA and co agreed to sign the paper work . This is the same paper work that Rufus wouldn't sign before going to court . Why didn't he sign it before ? He says its because he wants it to be legit and show a legal track record of events . Well if this is the case , why didn't he retain a lawyer like he was suppose to do instead of showing up in court looking like an A$$ wearing a cowboy hat ? And yes I am referring to the very 1st setting before the Judge told him anything . Remember , this isn't his 1st Rodeo , he's been to court before on similiar charges so he knew damn good and well he needs a lawyer .
IMO , MA , Rufus and CSHD agreed to sign the forms on the 6th because they knew good and well they had no attorney and had nothing else to show the court . At that point , they knew the Judge would grant the SEC what they were asking for so why not just sign it and save them a trip to the court house .
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: This is what we need.
That case was ongoing since April 2005, to anyone who thinks this thing with the SEC is almost over is nuts
Actually, there's one BIG difference- Rufus forced them to take it to a federal court- NOW there is a time limit- that other case was probably all handled by the SEC alone- they can do what they want- In this case a Federal Judge is watching....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Do I think they CSHD and Rufus are busting their butts day in and day out to get this resolved ? Yes.
Do I think the SEC will come back with something else listed in the current suit filed against the company? No.
Do I think that CSHD or Rufus can stand a chance against the SEC without some stout counsel to rep them? Sure if they did nothing wrong.
I think I now see where we disagree. HA HA!!
Posted by thesource on :
Here's are some facts plain and simple .
(1)If CSHD has a good law firm , the firm would control all PR's and info coming out of the company . They would spin anything bad into good and only show the Co. in a positive light .
(2) Rufus said with his own mouth that the share holders needed to start thinking like a big Co. not a penny stock . So why is he still going on SPR and these forums running his mouth . How many real CEO's of real big Co.'s do this ?
(3) The SEC does not have to prove anything at this point , if their mission was to destroy the value and creditabilty of the company so the shorts can cover , they have done a fine job of it . The only way the stock can recover is to prove itself to the shareholders and the rest of the big business thats suppose to be watching it .
(4) This company now only consist of Rufus and some guy in Europe + a sec. that was probably hired from a temp agency . MA and RM are gone and wished Rufus good luck .
Now , if this company can back up what it claims , why are we trading at .35 a share with no legal counsel and a lone ranger for a CEO ? The reason will be shown soon enough and everyone thats drinking the kool aid will even have to admit they've been suckered .
Good luck to all ........ I've got to go get something done today .
Posted by ruthie on :
What are your thoughts on this today Chart??
Posted by frank021474 on :
thesource-
I realize in your world that the companies are failing, they have no clue, and they think your dog is ugly but come on.
You make a lot of statements out of pure angst towards this stock. Probably because its down in price. A lot of us are in the same boat- some like myself took advantage of it and picked up more shares.
But you DON'T know what the position of the company is regarding this case. As I stated last time you and others were posting about the sky falling and CSHD getting killed in court:
How do you think they SHOULD have handled it? If it was your world what would you have achieved differently?
If he brought the company lawyer (or any lawyer) what do you think would have been accomplished?
Do you think the judge is some sort of bond expert and would have made a final ruling vindicating CSHD that very day? Of course not!
Time to research by the Judge and SEC was inevitable. What would the better path have been and where would it have us today?
The SEC had to get expedited discovery to get into the books of CSHD. That was unavoidable- the place they do that is with the initial complaint. Nothing else has been filed or done.
As much as I like Monday night football I can easily say I truly don't like Monday morning quarterbacks.
Posted by Jenna on :
Ok- Let's try this approach- With all the smart people here & the great DD that has been done- for those that are worried about the court case- WHat have you dug up that was "illegal" that the SEC can use against the company or Rufus...I, for one, have found nothing, NOTHING....
By the way if you do find something - can you keep it off the boards & PM it to someone....Bill & Alana are watching ***WAVE*** Just kidding!
Posted by Jenna on :
As of today - I have no worries & no doubts so I will spend my time taking care of my home- see you all later- have peace - NO WORRIES!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Let me help clear up som of your FACTS? Ha!
Originally posted by thesource:
************* Here's are some facts plain and simple .
(1)(SPECULATION)If CSHD has a good law firm , the firm would control all PR's and info coming out of the company . (SPECULATION) They would spin anything bad into good and only show the Co. in a positive light .
(2) (How is this true? Ever watch CNBC?) Rufus said with his own mouth that the share holders needed to start thinking like a big Co. not a penny stock . So why is he still going on SPR and these forums running his mouth . How many real CEO's of real big Co.'s do this ?
(3) The SEC does not have to prove anything at this point , (SPECULATION) if their mission was to destroy the value and creditabilty of the company so the shorts can cover , they have done a fine job of it . (SPECULATION) The only way the stock can recover is to prove itself to the shareholders and the rest of the big business thats suppose to be watching it .
(4) (SPECULATION) This company now only consist of Rufus and some guy in Europe + (SPECULATION) a sec. that was probably hired from a temp agency . (WRONG: They are major shareholders still.)MA and RM are gone and wished Rufus good luck .
Now , if this company can back up what it claims , why are we trading at .35 a share with (SPECULATION) no legal counsel and a lone ranger for a CEO ? The reason will be shown soon enough and everyone thats drinking the kool aid will even have to admit they've been suckered .
(May not be true. HA!) Good luck to all ........ I've got to go get something done today .
*********** Your funny.
Posted by portman on :
Ok, Most of you know I know a fair number of lawyers personally (and relatedly).
IMO, They should have retained counsel long ago.
The results were well in favor of CSHD even without a lawyer.
I will tell you that if I had retained a lawyer now I would not say who it was.
Now, I personally am not going to sit here and complain about it. Why? Because I cannot pick up the phone and make Rufus do it.
Now I will say that in the SPR interview the other night RPH did indicate it was important and he had expected MA to have already done this and that he would do it shorty.
I am not going to worry about this topic.
just my .02
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Let me help clear up som of your FACTS? Ha!
Originally posted by thesource:
************* Here's are some facts plain and simple .
(1)(SPECULATION)If CSHD has a good law firm , the firm would control all PR's and info coming out of the company . (SPECULATION) They would spin anything bad into good and only show the Co. in a positive light .
(2) (How is this true? Ever watch CNBC?) Rufus said with his own mouth that the share holders needed to start thinking like a big Co. not a penny stock . So why is he still going on SPR and these forums running his mouth . How many real CEO's of real big Co.'s do this ?
(3) The SEC does not have to prove anything at this point , (SPECULATION) if their mission was to destroy the value and creditabilty of the company so the shorts can cover , they have done a fine job of it . (SPECULATION) The only way the stock can recover is to prove itself to the shareholders and the rest of the big business thats suppose to be watching it .
(4) (SPECULATION) This company now only consist of Rufus and some guy in Europe + (SPECULATION) a sec. that was probably hired from a temp agency . (WRONG: They are major shareholders still.)MA and RM are gone and wished Rufus good luck .
Now , if this company can back up what it claims , why are we trading at .35 a share with (SPECULATION) no legal counsel and a lone ranger for a CEO ? The reason will be shown soon enough and everyone thats drinking the kool aid will even have to admit they've been suckered .
(May not be true. HA!) Good luck to all ........ I've got to go get something done today .
*********** Your funny.
The source does make good points, you can't laugh off everything
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR.CATIAENGINEER!!!!!!
I hope it's a good one!!!
If I could I would give you some "M&M"'s for your Birthday!!!
-Jenna
Hey thanks Jenna!!
And thanks to the others who also offered birthday wishes!
Happy Birthday Milliam and happy birthday Maumee as well, a day late. Another one of our shareholders, and a good personal friend of mine (Tyraid) has a birthday tomorrow.
It sounds like a GREAT weekend for a big bash!! Id even put my Bday as second priority to CSHD trading in the OTC again!!! Posted by Doniboy on :
Good point. We may have a lawyer. That's true.
I don't like the .25 that I've just seen though. Lets get some information out soon that can stop this. 17% down on volume of 146,000. That's a joke.
Posted by frank021474 on :
His points are all speculation stocktrader22 and voiced with emotions at the PPS.
Until we are off the greys the stock PPS will be unregulated and low.
I don't even watch the L2's or my Balances. Just simply keep track of official filings.
Posted by frank021474 on :
The main point I didn't like was #4- that MA and RM bailed and said "good luck". Pay particular attention to the conclusion that Mike Alexander came to.
from PR: Mike Alexander says that, "I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company's assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the company's business plan.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: How do you think they SHOULD have handled it? If it was your world what would you have achieved differently?
If he brought the company lawyer (or any lawyer) what do you think would have been accomplished?
Do you think the judge is some sort of bond expert and would have made a final ruling vindicating CSHD that very day? Of course not!
Time to research by the Judge and SEC was inevitable. What would the better path have been and where would it have us today?
The SEC had to get expedited discovery to get into the books of CSHD. That was unavoidable- the place they do that is with the initial complaint. Nothing else has been filed or done.
I can address these questions real quick before I go .
(1) How do you think they SHOULD have handled it? - Rufus should have given the SEC all the info to verify owner ship of the bonds when asked for it the 1st time . If the SEC still had doubt , pick up a phone and call the Banc of Ven . and ask to speak to the person signed off on the bonds . He must have a direct line to them since they did trust him with millions of their dollars , right ? If this was still not enough , tell the SEC , from here out you've got to deal with my lawyers . Let the CEO do his job of running the business and the lawyers job to deal with legal issues the company might face .
(2) If it was your world what would you have achieved differently? - I would not have been clasting out all this info about under water recover of timber for 4 trillion dollars nor would I have put on my website that we are considering colonizing the MOON !! All of this mess could have been prevented and the stock could have been to $15.00 PPS if Rufus knew how to run a Co.
(3) If he brought the company lawyer (or any lawyer) what do you think would have been accomplished? - Best question yet ....... If they had an attorney qualified in SEC dealings , 1st off the SEC would know they are dealing with a PRO and given a lot more credit to the claims CSHD made . 2ndly , the attorney would have talked to the SEC before they filed the suit against CSHD and would have come to some terms that would not effect the stock until it was resolved . The SEC suspended trade and filed suit because Rufus wouldn't deal with them and basically told them to take him to court . Once again , how many real CEO's would take this approach ?
(4)Do you think the judge is some sort of bond expert and would have made a final ruling vindicating CSHD that very day? - Of course not , infact alot of Judges do not know much at all about law much less bonds . They get their jobs from people scratching each others backs and doing favors for each other . With that said , if the Judge has to make a decision based on the SEC claims or some lone ranger without an attorney , who do you think will get the nod ? Its not always about who's right , its about who makes a more convincing agruement and how has more creditablity in the case .
In no way did CSHD and Rufus showing up with out legal counsel help them . It showed a lack of knowledge in legal proceedings and some arrogance from Rufus .
Posted by frank021474 on :
Keep in mind he wanted this stuff public- to avoid speculation.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yes, I can laugh off almost every bit of it, all the way down to his "Good luck to all".
I have read his past posts. He wishes no one any luck in this stock, and especially not everyone. Additionally he has not proven to be in contact with anyone, nor is he attempting to answer some of the questions he is posting.
Lack of DD and lack of evidence behind speculation is laughable.
I do not know if CSHD has a lawyer... that is a fact. I know in my heart they have a lawyer... that is speculation. I think they don't have legal counsel... that is specultaion.
Tell me what you know, and follow it up with links, proof, heresay, or verifiable landmarks atleast.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Canceled was the word the T/A used, but it was'nt somthing that Don at T/A was'nt aware of.
So I just called the T/A myself. they say you are lying, that no one from their office has ever stated the 6:1 has been canceled. they restated exactly what was told to me before, the company has issued no instructions so they dont know how or when the shares will be issued. There are multiple ways to issue them.
I would suggest someone question 6digits about his posts and their seemingly drive to manipulate the market on false statements.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Canceled was the word the T/A used, but it was'nt somthing that Don at T/A was'nt aware of.
So I just called the T/A myself. they say you are lying, that no one from their office has ever stated the 6:1 has been canceled. they restated exactly what was told to me before, the company has issued no instructions so they dont know how or when the shares will be issued. There are multiple ways to issue them.
I would suggest someone question 6digits about his posts and their seemingly drive to manipulate the market on false statements.
You are never one to leave doubt. Thanks man. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to make the call. I know you are experienced to know what and how to ask the question.
If I have time I will give Don a call as well. But I doubt it.
Thanks again!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Yes, I can laugh off almost every bit of it, all the way down to his "Good luck to all".
I have read his past posts. He wishes no one any luck in this stock, and especially not everyone. Additionally he has not proven to be in contact with anyone, nor is he attempting to answer some of the questions he is posting.
Lack of DD and lack of evidence behind speculation is laughable.
I do not know if CSHD has a lawyer... that is a fact. I know in my heart they have a lawyer... that is speculation. I think they don't have legal counsel... that is specultaion.
Tell me what you know, and follow it up with links, proof, heresay, or verifiable landmarks at least.
Until the sec schedules an actual hearing, there is no need for legal council. Sure it might make for a warm fuzzy, but they simply aren't needed at this point. What are they going to do? Tell Rufus I wish you didn't have to turn over that document but since the judge said you have to that will be $1000, thank you sir?
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I have to agree with Source. We should have a lawyer... plain and simple, no doubt about it. GET A LAWYER RUFUS.
OK, that being said, there is nothing we can do about it.
I also agree. I think Rufus has a good lawyer now but if he doesn't he better get one. One more appearance in court without one can spell DOOM in the eyes of the judge. While thinking about what should and shouldn't be done......I also hope we have a different CPA. In my opinion Benson doesn't "cut" it. He is not the quality type this company needs. It appears he is never on time and when he finally gets it done, it needs to be fixed. IMO .... this is unacceptable. .... Also lets hope we get a couple of MM's soon and I hope everyone here has a great day. Posted by casviper on :
.29 how low will she go???
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by blanco4444: DELL has the SEC on their a$$ because of a late fillings
Saw that...Waiting to see if they get halted and drop like a rock, lose their market makers.??
If they follow the CSHD lead they should be at about $4.00 per share in 2 weeks.
NOW's the time to buy a PUT option "at the money" on that POS! MAKE A TON of cash!!
Posted by portman on :
Everyone has an opinion on the matter and I have seen some comments here for and against.
Agree to disagree guys. I have and I am not going to have coronary of this stock.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by ruthie: What are your thoughts on this today Chart??
Still long, waiting to see how NEXT WEEK goes. Posted by thedoctor on :
I have .40
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
What was that! thdoctor? Picking on Benson? That is crazy. He was on time, to say he wasn't is once again speculation. He is of very high caliber, he is a State Gov. auditor, and his wife is state employed too. What more do you want? I think it was Arthur Anderson that did Enron's books. Come now folks. Quit picking on people for no reason. He is probably alot less expensive than a big firm, and he has decent credentials. If you are blaming Benson for the "E", don't... blame Rufus. He stated that he himself Edgarized the document, and the opinion statement was in the prior 8K, but was omitted in the 10K by none other than RPH no one else.
Posted by portman on :
One last comment before lunch is over...
What is it with CSHD folks and November birthdays...jeez were we all born on this month (me included) or are you all trying to be cool since RPH's is this month?
Posted by Doniboy on :
I was born in june Posted by thedoctor on :
Tax......I am glad you didn't have a gun in your hand. Please don't shoot. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I wouldn't shoot you... you are not my favorite target. I am just saying I DD'd the crud out of Benson, and he is clean and a cursader in the war against fraud.
Every thing we got from him said he was on schedule, Rufus was the one playing the "timmin vs strategy" game with the 10K. By the way I think he lost that round.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: One last comment before lunch is over...
What is it with CSHD folks and November birthdays...jeez were we all born on this month (me included) or are you all trying to be cool since RPH's is this month?
Happy belated birthday or early one!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Tax, let's hope he puts a spit shine on the next PR
Pretty solid support at the .30 level.
That might be a real good buy point IMO, after all we have filings on the extention due anytime, doesn't have to be next week...
-just something to keep in mind...
Can't wait for a run, and to flip this more then pancakes at Saturday morning breakfast!
Two flips presented themselves with FRPT this week, good buy in point now if you have extra...
Posted by highhopes on :
Wow, no volume at all today. Looks like all the bets are placed and we are just waiting for the wheel to stop.
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I wouldn't shoot you... you are not my favorite target. I am just saying I DD'd the crud out of Benson, and he is clean and a cursader in the war against fraud.
Every thing we got from him said he was on schedule, Rufus was the one playing the "timmin vs strategy" game with the 10K. By the way I think he lost that round.
I respect all of your input.... I was thinking about the incorrect date on one of them. I thought he should have caught that. He probably is good if you researched him, but I thought the date thing was kind of crazy. I have done a lot of business in Central Michigan and have asked people what they thought about him. None seemed to know him. I also have dealt with the State of Michigan in several areas, as Jenna knows; and I didn't hear any negativity regarding him. So you are probably right on.
Posted by thedoctor on :
Hi High
Posted by highhopes on :
Hi Doc, I have a great idea...I will put 1000 shares up for $50/share. You buy them and the price on the board will shoot up to $50! What do you say? It would kind of break up the boredom a little while we wait.
Posted by thedoctor on :
LOL
Posted by thedoctor on :
Now you are negotiating just like your golf handicap.
Posted by highhopes on :
Thats OK I my 1000 pre Oct 16 shares will be worth much more than $50 soon anyway.
Posted by thedoctor on :
We all hope so
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Now you are negotiating just like your golf handicap.
Golf?..
-hey I once shot a 38!!!
Then on the SECOND hole I got a ...... Posted by thedoctor on :
HAHA
Posted by 6digits on :
sceptor, I'm not so sure the T/A guys even know whats going on.
Posted by thedoctor on :
See ya later my friends .... I have some business to take care of. Make it happen.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I'm not so sure the T/A guys even know whats going on.
stop with the crap.
Posted by 6digits on :
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by portman: One last comment before lunch is over...
What is it with CSHD folks and November birthdays...jeez were we all born on this month (me included) or are you all trying to be cool since RPH's is this month?
Happy belated birthday or early one!
Thanks mom.
Posted by 6digits on :
sceptor, I don't believe you called the T/A. Your message seems totally bogus.
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I'm not so sure the T/A guys even know whats going on.
stop with the crap.
Posted by 6digits on :
Just for the record i'm for the 6:1 stock deal. If they give it i'll take it. I don't have a problem with it.
Posted by Chart walker on :
last I heard 6 for 1 was still a go...
FWIW
[--and THANK GOD!!] $$$ Cause this baby ever gets to about $5.50 now....
"GOOD BYE!!!" LOL ~
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Just for the record i'm for the 6:1 stock deal. If they give it i'll take it. I don't have a problem with it.
6, the TA would not be allowed to say what you said they said legally even if it was true.
The reason you call the TA is for O/S, A/S and float numbers. That is if you are not calling in relation to personal certs.
Personally, I only care for the 6 additional if it effects a problem for the FTDs. Otherwise, I do not care at this time. I reserve the right to change my mind at a later date.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I don't believe you called the T/A. Your message seems totally bogus.
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I'm not so sure the T/A guys even know whats going on.
stop with the crap.
Integrity Stock Transfer Contact Us Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
Lets get someone other than you or I to call next. I say you are doing nothing more than reposting something you saw on cshd.net and are in hopes of manipulating the market with it.
Posted by 10of13 on :
spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
6digits wins
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.
Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.
Q I’m not a bond expert, but from what little I do know it would appear that bond ownership could be determine fairly quickly. Is this not the case? A. Our position has not changed. We do not have evidence to support CSHD claims of bond ownership.
Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes.
Q. If you are convinced of it being fraudulent, then how are you protecting investors by letting it continue? A. Its lengthy process and we are not at that stage of the process yet.
Q. So, there is no precedent that would permit you to shut down a company immediately if the fraud was egregious and blatant? A. I would have to reference that question before I could answer it.
This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad! Posted by Doniboy on :
I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
Posted by Doniboy on :
.28 Posted by CRab on :
You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real important question I have...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
FWIW- I called integrity about 3 or 4 weeks ago...They didn't know anything about the 6:1 but they also said they couldn't discuss it anyway....and I also asked her if they would have been notified by the company how long would it take to get to the shareholders - she said it all depends on the companies plan - the company lays it all out for them.....
But really - the 6:1 HAS TO happen - the only question is when- trying to find out about the 6:1 right now is the NOT the first priority - as someone once said to me we are on Life Support and worrying about the 6:1 is like worrying about a hang nail.....
We have a lot of things to look forward to coming up - we have Filings, possible PR's, & most importantly we are waiting on am MM so we can go back to the OTCBB.....the 6:1 can wait....not worried it'll come.......IMO Posted by TexasMoney on :
If you have the time, I highly recommend that you give her a call.
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
6digits wins
Wrong. He claimed they told him the 6:1 had been cancelled. they have stated several times to several different people now that no one in their office has ever said that.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Texas, if she is correct then everyone here has just lost all of the money they have invested (what's left of it) I have no desire to speak to her. She can go straight to HE**.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If you have the time, I highly recommend that you give her a call.
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.
Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.
Q I’m not a bond expert, but from what little I do know it would appear that bond ownership could be determine fairly quickly. Is this not the case? A. Our position has not changed. We do not have evidence to support CSHD claims of bond ownership.
Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes.
Q. If you are convinced of it being fraudulent, then how are you protecting investors by letting it continue? A. Its lengthy process and we are not at that stage of the process yet.
Q. So, there is no precedent that would permit you to shut down a company immediately if the fraud was egregious and blatant? A. I would have to reference that question before I could answer it.
This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad!
By the comments you have posted , it sounds like the SEC is still coming after CSHD and Rufus . If CSHD doesn't have a damn good legal counsel , they might consider looking for one pretty darn soon , that or split the country . I've heard Europe is a nice place for scammers this time of year .
Posted by Jenna on :
You guys Alana Black wants to win but I have a Hunch that she doesn't have anything right now...
Posted by CRab on :
bump for TexasMoney...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real "important" question I have with regards to the SEC...
Posted by trade04 on :
cheer up everyone, at least we have a 10q to look fwd to...i think? well no1 has discussed numbers so i take it we are all just tired of working on cshd...just want siht to get done already..
Posted by Jenna on :
I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
I'll answer my own question......NOTHING!!!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Sorry I did not ask her that. I went into the conversation unprepared and that is one of many questions I wished I would have asked. I recommend we put together a list and have Jenna call her - woman to woman. Hey, who doesn’t like a good cat fight? LOL
quote:Originally posted by CRab: bump for TexasMoney...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real "important" question I have with regards to the SEC...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
At this point , she doesn't really need proof . The proof lies upon CSHD to back up what they claim to have . If they cannot , the Judge really has no option but to find for the SEC and grant any and all request they have . Now if CSHD had a attorney present during all of this , CSHD would have a fighting chance . Without one , they might as well forget about it and close the doors .
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postiton also....
Lets all keep in mind the SEC has to prove fraud on the part of CSHD, so far nothing has come of that...IMO the SEC will NEVER admit fault, they will continue to state they believe there accusations are correct forever. They are the prosecution, if you can tell me the last time a prosecuter has admitted that their case was not justified let me know..even if the defendent is found not guilty by the court, the prosecution always remains adamant regarding their accusations...
Posted by CRab on :
The SEC does not investigate a company without complaints...did CSHD file complaints on themselves? Or was it perhaps someone that didn't have enough info, maybe it was someone with some sort of alterior motive? The simple answer is you or I or anyone else here for that matter doesn't know, so don't place blame where it isn't due.
I'm not saying certain things might not have been handled poorly, but I am saying me, you and everyone else needs to realize we aren't seeing the whole picture here.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: NO ONE ELSE .......
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.................
.......Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes...............
................This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad!
What bothers me most is that she is taking her time to talk to you regarding this OPEN investigation. She is with the SEC and she is speaking about a company that has it's shares trading publically. This information regarding CSHD is her opinion, and a very important opinion at that. Each and every word out of her mouth has a direct impact on the value of the company, and the current shareholders personal finances. So far her opinion has cost many of us shareholders 80% of our original investment.
If she is not legally bound to keep her yap closed. Somebody, via gag order, should bind it closed legally, until the investigation is over. Morally alone she should respect the current shareholders and their personal investments.
I don't care how nice she seems on the phone, she is in the process of doing a very bad thing to alot of good people. Posted by ClayN on :
I really don't know who has to prove what to whom in this whole mess, and I don't really care. I just wish our company would be the responsible one in this (for the shareholders sake) and prove that they in fact own the bonds (If they do). Also, if our company doesn't have any legal counsel I wish they would get some.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
At this point , she doesn't really need proof . The proof lies upon CSHD to back up what they claim to have . If they cannot , the Judge really has no option but to find for the SEC and grant any and all request they have . Now if CSHD had a attorney present during all of this , CSHD would have a fighting chance . Without one , they might as well forget about it and close the doors .
Posted by TexasMoney on :
As much as I hate to admit it, I believe you are right. The SEC’s claim isn’t proof guilt. The unfortunately reality is that Rufus took a piss in their coffee pot, laughed while they drank it, and now they want to take the long low road to reconciliation.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
Posted by 10of13 on :
thesource? Are you TRYING to stir the pot? LOL IMO? the SEC jumped the gun...and now they will not stop until they find something... Jumping the gun? has caused a problem with the shareholders..I can be upset and angry at that... Fraud? Scam? i just don't think so...why would a man(Rufus) put his family in harms way? That is the thing that hits my gut and says no way is it a scam... Could Rufus have been "suckered" into thinking the bonds are "his" and they aren't? Why not? But I don't see Rufus doing this as a scam intentionally!!! Just another opinion that means squat!
Posted by trade04 on :
wtf im watching the senate and it says s.3709 lets the president permit expoRT OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS To india....wtf so some countries can have nuclear materials? what happened to disarmament...im not to wise on legislation but can someone tell me wtf is going on
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by ClayN: I really don't know who has to prove what to whom in this whole mess, and I don't really care. I just wish our company would be the responsible one in this (for the shareholders sake) and prove that they in fact own the bonds (If they do). Also, if our company doesn't have any legal counsel I wish they would get some.
You are exactly right ...... CSHD needs to take this by the horns and spin it their way . This needs to be done by a professional law firm and not by Rufus going on SPR or hosting BBQ's to brain wash a few guys and let them spread the word through these boards .
If CSHD is innocent , they have to prove it to the SEC , the judge , the loyal kool aid drinkers and most importantly to their future investors . After all , without future investors , we just have a worthless stock because no new cash will come into it .
Posted by Jenna on :
Source - Well, CSHD has the proof of bond ownership, they said it many times - so I'm not worried about that part AT ALL
- As far as an attorney goes you are absolutley correct -they need one - I don't care if it is only to turn in a piece of paper....BUT I believe he has a lawyer, Speculation on my part - (maybe) (maybe not)- I think that to be told twice you need a lawyer by a judge and not get one would be really ignorant...& I don't believe Rufus is a stupid man - maybe arrogant- but definetly not stupid- but there's a point when you draw the line & I think it's been drawn -so with that being said......
I'm confident that he has a lawyer because he's too smart not to have one (the third time).
Posted by madmoney on :
Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.------- I thought this was an invetigation? when did a lawsuit come up? or did i miss something.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: wtf im watching the senate and it says s.3709 lets the president permit expoRT OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS To india....wtf so some countries can have nuclear materials? what happened to disarmament...im not to wise on legislation but can someone tell me wtf is going on
Are you really sure you want to know WTF is going on? WTF is with all the WTF's? I'm mean really WTF? Posted by TexasMoney on :
Please folks do NOT use Alana Black as the SEC punching bag. She isn't even lead counsel in the matter.
I called her up, asked her if I caught her at a bad time, which she said no, introduced myself, and we talked.
Again, she prefaced our conversation by saying she “could not speak about anything that was not public record”. The fact that she was willing to give me her time shouldn’t be misconstrued as a conspiracy to slander CSHD or skew public information.
I asked for the SEC’s public position on the matter and she answered and helped clarify it when she could. She explained how the process works, a few federal laws, and was very informative and helpful.
I highly recommend we put together a few VERY GOOD QUESTIONS and have Jenna give her a call. What do you think?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: thesource? Are you TRYING to stir the pot? LOL IMO? the SEC jumped the gun...and now they will not stop until they find something... Jumping the gun? has caused a problem with the shareholders..I can be upset and angry at that... Fraud? Scam? i just don't think so...why would a man(Rufus) put his family in harms way? That is the thing that hits my gut and says no way is it a scam... Could Rufus have been "suckered" into thinking the bonds are "his" and they aren't? Why not? But I don't see Rufus doing this as a scam intentionally!!! Just another opinion that means squat!
Maybe the SEC jumped the gun but they are still standing by their suit and thats all that matters to the market investors . Rufus wasn't suckered into anything but if he was that even less about his ability to run this company .
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: If CSHD is innocent , they have to prove it to the SEC , the judge , the loyal kool aid drinkers and most importantly to their future investors . After all , without future investors , we just have a worthless stock because no new cash will come into it .
wow...
you must be joking right?
you want to attract future investors? LOL
Posted by lostone on :
yep, even if the SEC isn't working for special interest groups, they'd still try to screw CSHD for the heck of it b/c of Rufus.. in the end, the shareholders get the shaft.. 1001 nights..
Posted by Doniboy on :
The Source. You can defend the SEC all you want. You can claim that she is just doing her job all you want. The point is that I owned a stock that was over $2.00. The SEC shut it down and then reopened it without any explanation and now it is down to around a quarter. You want to be all lovey dovey with Alana Black then go ask her out. In my opinion she is a scumbag.
Posted by SherriT on :
Can we have a single day post-suspension where we aren't jabbing at each other?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, she did say "pending lawsuit". I then asked "pending, what is it pending on". She answered, "I dont' understand your question". By this time I felt like an idiot an didn't pursue it further. But, I was a bit surprised when she said she "was working on the pending lawsuit".
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.------- I thought this was an invetigation? when did a lawsuit come up? or did i miss somthing.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I just figured you out theSource... your an ambulance chaser arnt you. You must be hunting for a job as CSHD's legal counsel!!
You must have some insider info, since you are dead set on the fact that they do not have representation. Is Rufus not returning your calls? Don't sweat it buddy, there will be anotehr car wreck soon.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY HAVE LEGAL REPESENTAION AT THIS TIME! Come on say it with me. It really isn't hard to talk fact. I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY HAVE LEGAL REPESENTAION AT THIS TIME!
If you know otherwise... then present your proof or get off the speculation!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Source - Well, CSHD has the proof of bond ownership, they said it many times - so I'm not worried about that part AT ALL
- As far as an attorney goes you are absolutley correct -they need one - I don't care if it is only to turn in a piece of paper....BUT I believe he has a lawyer, Speculation on my part - (maybe) (maybe not)- I think that to be told twice you need a lawyer by a judge and not get one would be really ignorant...& I don't believe Rufus is a stupid man - maybe arrogant- but definetly not stupid- but there's a point when you draw the line & I think it's been drawn -so with that being said......
I'm confident that he has a lawyer because he's too smart not to have one (the third time).
Jenna , I know you are trying to see it in a positive light . For that , you are commended but sooner or later things will begin to surface .
Rufus faced similiar charges back when he made up bonds in the BBAN deal . He knows that the SEC isn't playing around and he knows that he needed an attorney long before this was brought to court . He couldn't possibly think that he would waltz into court wearing his buckaroo hat and slap the judge with some paper work and be free to carry on . It just doesn't work that way , not even here in Texas (home of the buckaroo's).
Posted by Doniboy on :
Sherri the Source is here to jab. I understand that Texas is starting to lose faith because of his conversations with Alana Black..that is understandable. But The Source has always been negative.
That being said, I don't mind reading your posts Source, be as negative as you'd like, most of us are staying in for the heck of it anyway. Just don't get repetitive please.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: wtf im watching the senate and it says s.3709 lets the president permit expoRT OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS To india....wtf so some countries can have nuclear materials? what happened to disarmament...im not to wise on legislation but can someone tell me wtf is going on
Are you really sure you want to know WTF is going on? WTF is with all the WTF's? I'm mean really WTF?
wtf do you think? i did ask didnt I..and plus i love saing wtf ...BITE ME
besides looks like it wont get passed....but you know i think to myself. wtf are they doing voting on something like this....wasting valuable legislation time..
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO THIS:
I highly recommend we put together a few VERY GOOD QUESTIONS and have Jenna give her a call. What do you think?
As Rufus would say, are we just going to "bump out gums" here or do something constructive?
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Told you to get out while you could at .55 cents... Rufus is a dufus and he dug himself a trench that he can't get out of. He knows it so he's not even going to hire an attorney because he has no bonds, and he can't afford one.. Has anyone actually been to the main "headquarters" or are those just pretty little pictures of buildings from googleimages.com. Get real, everyone knew this was to good to be true, and this stock will never be the same. Plain and simple... Rufus doesn't have an attorney because he can't afford one, Mike Alexandre and his accomplice resigned because they knew if they were still associated with this company they'd get scr#$#d. Rufus took it back cause he knows what he's done and hes taking responsiblitity for it instead of running away.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: The Source. You can defend the SEC all you want. You can claim that she is just doing her job all you want. The point is that I owned a stock that was over $2.00. The SEC shut it down and then reopened it without any explanation and now it is down to around a quarter. You want to be all lovey dovey with Alana Black then go ask her out. In my opinion she is a scumbag.
Doni, when you post it's like poetry to my ears! LMAO Posted by lostone on :
REPO must be happy today.. his FRPT is 10+
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Please folks do NOT use Alana Black as the SEC punching bag. She isn't even lead counsel in the matter.
I called her up, asked her if I caught her at a bad time, which she said no, introduced myself, and we talked.
Again, she prefaced our conversation by saying she “could not speak about anything that was not public record”. The fact that she was willing to give me her time shouldn’t be misconstrued as a conspiracy to slander CSHD or skew public information.
I asked for the SEC’s public position on the matter and she answered and helped clarify it when she could. She explained how the process works, a few federal laws, and was very informative and helpful.
I highly recommend we put together a few VERY GOOD QUESTIONS and have Jenna give her a call. What do you think?
The only problem with that is the Jenna -at most times can be sweet but then again-she can get very angry - I may say something like "Who exactly are you protecting M'aam- the shareholders or the shorts?" Or something even worse- I may even tell her where she can put her "lawsuit"... no just kidding but maybe we should just not call her because she not on the side of the shareholders- she has this investigation pending and she doesn't want to be "wrong" so she's going to try to find anything & who's to say she won't turn around & accuse the caller of knowing too much or knowing things they "shouldn't" know....You never know what people will do when they feel desperate....
Posted by 66inxs on :
no one in their right mind would admit fraud as it would allow the victims of the fraud to pierce the corporate veil and go after that persons assets without any corporate protection. the sec has a lot of other cases and will take their time imho. this could take several months just to get back into court again, don't forget, this is the government that you are dealing with.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.------- I thought this was an invetigation? when did a lawsuit come up? or did i miss something.
I may be wrong but, I believe she used that term because the SEC is the plantiff & CSHD & Rufus are the defendants - meaning they are "suing" them hence lawsuit....
Posted by thesource on :
Doniboy - I'm in the same boat with an average of $2.20 PPS but that doesn't matter to anyone but me . The SEC would have kept it shut down but couldn't because of the way the law is written . No one drug the price down except for people wanting to get out for whatever they could and since no MM's are listed , its a free for all . The SEC hasn't exactly been quiet about it , they are even fielding questions by concerned share holders .
TaxBack04 - You got me ....... what can I really say . I guess only time will tell but given the history of this company , they tried a bluff and it didn't work out . Game Over .
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Doniboy - I'm in the same boat with an average of $2.20 PPS but that doesn't matter to anyone but me . The SEC would have kept it shut down but couldn't because of the way the law is written . No one drug the price down except for people wanting to get out for whatever they could and since no MM's are listed , its a free for all . The SEC hasn't exactly been quiet about it , they are even fielding questions by concerned share holders .
TaxBack04 - You got me ....... what can I really say . I guess only time will tell but given the history of this company , they tried a bluff and it didn't work out . Game Over .
LOL....
who taught you that?
i can't get over how many rumors have been spread on both sides of this play short and long...
the SEC slammed the door...
i have watched plenty of stocks that don't trade 1000 shares once they hit the grays...
the shorts are covering and the BROKERS are allowing it..
this is the rottenest play in the last five years...
Posted by new2stocks on :
chart are you alive?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
No and I had never even heard about them until doing some digging in the matter while we were on suspension . I felt literally sick to my stomach when I read about Rufus claiming to have the bonds and then to find out they were fake all along . This story is following the same lines only on a much larger scale .
And for the record , its not just Rufus , its Ben thats in this up to his a$$ as well . They are both con men .
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chart are you alive?
Alive and kicking!! Posted by Doniboy on :
You found out that they were fake? Well cool, please let us all see your evidence, that will clear up a lot of this garbage.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
No and I had never even heard about them until doing some digging in the matter while we were on suspension . I felt literally sick to my stomach when I read about Rufus claiming to have the bonds and then to find out they were fake all along . This story is following the same lines only on a much larger scale .
And for the record , its not just Rufus , its Ben thats in this up to his a$$ as well . They are both con men .
you didnt like? cindy on yahoo posted the link and i got some laughs lol...lighten up! wheres ur sense of humor?
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
No and I had never even heard about them until doing some digging in the matter while we were on suspension . I felt literally sick to my stomach when I read about Rufus claiming to have the bonds and then to find out they were fake all along . This story is following the same lines only on a much larger scale .
And for the record , its not just Rufus , its Ben thats in this up to his a$$ as well . They are both con men .
Alright source, show me PROOF that Rufus claimed to have bonds in BBAN, and I would love to see the PROOF that he was found GUILTY of any wrong doing. PLEASE SHARE!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
No and I had never even heard about them until doing some digging in the matter while we were on suspension . I felt literally sick to my stomach when I read about Rufus claiming to have the bonds and then to find out they were fake all along . This story is following the same lines only on a much larger scale .
And for the record , its not just Rufus , its Ben thats in this up to his a$$ as well . They are both con men .
LOL... fake bonds? that isn't the question...
you are long? the SEC will be checking outthe short action in this play too...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chart are you alive?
Alive and kicking!!
yes I see you are hanging out with your new buddy on the FRPT thread! lol
Posted by trade04 on :
attention shoppers XMSR being hammmeredddddddddd
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
you didnt like? cindy on yahoo posted the link and i got some laughs lol...lighten up! wheres ur sense of humor?
NO, BITE ME! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
There must be good news comming the bashers are up from their naps.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Its down less than one fifth what we are down today...
quote:Originally posted by trade04: attention shoppers XMSR being hammmeredddddddddd
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: There must be good news comming the bashers are up from their naps.
oh there must there MUST there MUST there must be!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, I understand there is a fairly large Texas contingent but I don't know any of them. I bought CSHD back in September.
Also, I truly do share your frustration with the SEC which was the reason I called today. I didn't have any expectations when I called Alana Black. I didn't feel any more confident or dissuade after my conversation either. Nothing has changed since last week. If anyone wants to interpret that as “bad news” then that’s their opinion but not mine. She didn’t nothing more than clarify the SEC’s already public position, provided a little insight, and provided me a better understanding to a few federal laws – that’s it.
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Quick Question though.
Source, I see you are from Texas, have you ever had any dealings with Rufus? Were you involved in the BBAN stock?
Just asking.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
trade - have you been smoking again? Posted by TexasMoney on :
Before anyone calls me a basher you better think twice about it. I'll summon Rufus' mother from HSM to kick your ass. She tore up a few bashing HSMers on Tuesday! Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: trade - have you been smoking again?
nah i wish i had some right now...could really take the edge off of things!
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
Averaging down as others are contemplating suicide. Picked up over 75000 the last 4 days.
The 4 boards are scaring the more sensitive and the MM's are gathering on their own. What do you think all these bashers ( on the other 3 boards) are doing on their daily return? for fun? Sure they have an interest. That is their day job at the office. Who in the hell has that much time from a real job to devote to the negative?
MM's and other brokers can go by many different aliases and that has been proven from the Internet forums since we began these online discussions since 1993.
Quiet times bring these days. I'm buying and not worried one bit. The news will follow. Rufus may not be the brightest publically but he knows the bond market. Shareholders have uncovered bonds in the foreign market with signatures that were never presented publically. The documents uncovered prove it. We have all seen them. Even the SEC has copies. He has to just get the expertise forwarded in a PUBLIC stock agenda and not continue with a private company mentality.
It will not be done in 7-10days. The shareholder committee is an excellent start for my investment. There are some very bright minds in these forums. Use them to the benefit of what is being formulated.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Doniboy - I'm in the same boat with an average of $2.20 PPS but that doesn't matter to anyone but me . The SEC would have kept it shut down but couldn't because of the way the law is written . No one drug the price down except for people wanting to get out for whatever they could and since no MM's are listed , its a free for all . The SEC hasn't exactly been quiet about it , they are even fielding questions by concerned share holders .
TaxBack04 - You got me ....... what can I really say . I guess only time will tell but given the history of this company , they tried a bluff and it didn't work out . Game Over .
LOL....
who taught you that?
i can't get over how many rumors have been spread on both sides of this play short and long...
the SEC slammed the door...
i have watched plenty of stocks that don't trade 1000 shares once they hit the grays...
the shorts are covering and the BROKERS are allowing it..
this is the rottenest play in the last five years...
Actually, the SEC seems to be allowing it inadvertantly...
I warned you about fighting windmills Glassman.
Posted by trade04 on :
lol at the source saying "drug the price down."..
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Jeeesh trade...seek rehab, will ya?
Posted by highhopes on :
OK for a minute lets assume that the SEC is still very certain there is a fraud and after two weeks of investigation they have found information supporting their original charge. Why then would they allow for the company to transfer back to Rufus without taking any action? Seems to me they would have the ability to stop trading again based on this substantial change. Sorry just does not make any sense at all which leads me to believe they have found nothing, after all this time, which supports their claims.
Posted by SherriT on :
Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Jeeesh trade...seek rehab, will ya?
your taking my post out of context...i laughed at his past tense use of the word "drag"
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Jeeesh trade...seek rehab, will ya?
did a year for the courts...and still smokinnnnn Posted by glassman on :
Actually, the SEC seems to be allowing it inadvertantly...
I warned you about fighting windmills Glassman.
now that is funny...
i'm not fighting. i'm taking notes...
for instance? did you know that at another board there are half dozen people with paid subscriptions that do nothing but post negatively on CSHD? for months.. 1000's of posts... and a large proportion of them are lies..
i have "tilted a few windmills" pretty hard in my time... i don't take day-to-day events as a measure of loss or gain in this situation either...
one of the most interesting parts in this play? is how many of the people that complained about the "system" being crooked in the past have "turned" to the darkside on this one... it's huge, and it shows what really is for sale doesn't it?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
New board rule: no calling someone a dufus and then spelling "responsible" wrong in the next sentence Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: The SEC does not investigate a company without complaints...did CSHD file complaints on themselves? Or was it perhaps someone that didn't have enough info, maybe it was someone with some sort of alterior motive? The simple answer is you or I or anyone else here for that matter doesn't know, so don't place blame where it isn't due.
I'm not saying certain things might not have been handled poorly, but I am saying me, you and everyone else needs to realize we aren't seeing the whole picture here.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: NO ONE ELSE .......
Mr BBQ "magic crystals" Miles has already taken the credit for rousting the SEC about CSHD. I want to say he has it on his website but would have to go digging in the rubbish to find it.
He mentioned it on SPR as well as posting copies of the emails he sent online.
Posted by Doniboy on :
I love it when someone is making fun of someone else and then misspells the word misspell.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
New board rule: no calling someone a dufus and then spelling "responsible" wrong in the next sentence
Posted by SherriT on :
BUMP
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
Posted by new2stocks on :
chart~ are you still here?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
Posted by Doniboy on :
OK, every single stock on my watch list is red except for freakin Repo's stock.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
I thought in the last SPR interview Simon said 30 days....I could be wrong...?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chart~ are you still here?
waaaazzzzsssuuup? Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chart~ are you still here?
waaaazzzzsssuuup?
did I wake you? I tried calling.
Posted by trade04 on :
and theyll be lining down the block just to watch what i drop...........im so delicious
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: and theyll be lining down the block just to watch what i drop...........im so delicious
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chart~ are you still here?
waaaazzzzsssuuup?
did I wake you? I tried calling.
wake me! ha!!
--try again ~ Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: and theyll be lining down the block just to watch what i drop...........im so delicious
wtf?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
SherriT ~
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Commission may continue to take expedited discovery as follows:
A. The Commission may take depositions upon oral examination subject to three days notice prior to expiration of 30 days after service of the Summons and Complaint upon defendant, pursuant to Rule 30(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure ;
B. Pursuant to Rule 33(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the defendants shall answer all plaintiffs interrogatories within ten days of service of such interrogatories ;
C . Pursuant to Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, upon request of the Commission, the defendants shall produce all documents within five days of service of such request;
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 8 Filed 11/07/2006 Page 5 of 6;
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
I thought in the last SPR interview Simon said 30 days....I could be wrong...?
I haven't been able to find anything written (edit: in simple English not legal-ease), but I thought one of the main reasons that Rufus wanted everything in Federal court was so that it would not be dragged out indefinately. Am I getting confused?
Posted by new2stocks on :
trade04 please lay off whatever it is you are smoking.... Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
There is no time frame to the injunction or the investigation. The 30 days stems from the judges ruling when it talked about depositions and such. The deposed had to respond within 3 days, and the request from the sec had a lifetime of 30 days.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
I thought in the last SPR interview Simon said 30 days....I could be wrong...?
I haven't been able to find anything written, but I thought one of the main reasons that Rufus wanted everything in Federal court was so that it would not be dragged out indefinately. Am I getting confused?
All you have to do is read the injunction. It's pretty clear.
Or just look up at the cut and paste taxback just did. Posted by SherriT on :
Thanks everyone for the answers!
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: and theyll be lining down the block just to watch what i drop...........im so delicious
wtf?
yall dont know who fergie is? she was in black eyed peas.... now shes solo fergalicious lol...http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID= 68002725
Posted by sceptor on :
LOL it's kind of funny in a odd sort of way. Even down here in the grey market there are people trying to pain the candlestick.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
I thought in the last SPR interview Simon said 30 days....I could be wrong...?
I haven't been able to find anything written, but I thought one of the main reasons that Rufus wanted everything in Federal court was so that it would not be dragged out indefinately. Am I getting confused?
All you have to do is read the injunction. It's pretty clear.
Or just look up at the cut and paste taxback just did.
Ouch. I was looking more for a laypersons' interpretation, but thanks anyway - I got what I needed from the question.
(Edit: I think I too am beginning to take things personally...time to get back to work)
Posted by Doniboy on :
Fergalicious. Definition: make the boys go crazy.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I love it when someone is making fun of someone else and then misspells the word misspell.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
New board rule: no calling someone a dufus and then spelling "responsible" wrong in the next sentence
wha chu talkin about willis-
Posted by Synastar1 on :
I think he was generalizing frank.
Posted by 3403 on :
Couldn't check with all of you today. Anything interesting happening?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Notta thing!!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Couldn't check with all of you today. Anything interesting happening?
Posted by Doniboy on :
I was agreeing with you
Another pet peeve of mine is the word lose.
You lose money people... Your girlfriend is loose....
Get it straight!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I love it when someone is making fun of someone else and then misspells the word misspell.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
New board rule: no calling someone a dufus and then spelling "responsible" wrong in the next sentence
wha chu talkin about willis-
Posted by 3403 on :
thks 10
Posted by SherriT on :
Nope - just pissing in each other's corn flakes and watching other plays make money while we speculate and hope for beautiful things Posted by thesource on :
read the 2nd story ..... if its a repost , sorry .
Not exactly "PROOF" of fake bonds but I have not found one single link of where Rufus has denied this claim by BBAN .
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Couldn't check with all of you today. Anything interesting happening?
We are all just "Kung Fu" fighting... fast as lightening...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You are right it is, "Not exactly "PROOF""...
...Not even remotely proof.
Posted by frank021474 on :
ok thesource- you talked me into it. I am dumping 1st thing in the morning.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Doni...it isn't nice to talk about someone's girlfriend...
Posted by glassman on :
even if it's a compliment? Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL Good turn-around Glass Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: You are right it is, "Not exactly "PROOF""...
...Not even remotely proof.
Its not but since Rufus or should I say Paul has never come out and denied it ........ kind of leave one to assume its true .
And if thats the case , why would anyone even think that CSHD with Rufus in charge owns what they claim to own ? No wonder the SEC is calling Bull$hit on this one . I'm sure the Judge has his doubts as well if he read this article .
Posted by 10of13 on :
the very last sentence in this article... "we decided it would be in the best interest of the Company to dismiss the case without prejudice"
You can argue it...and others can argue it...BUT? As I pointed out before...MY EX? filed child abuse charges against me? it was dismissed...Did I abuse my children? Absolutely not...if you search my name will the charges show up? yep! to an outsider looking in? I must have done it...RIGHT?
read the 2nd story ..... if its a repost , sorry .
Not exactly "PROOF" of fake bonds but I have not found one single link of where Rufus has denied this claim by BBAN .
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
To me this history reads that Rufus and Ben did eventually come up with the bonds, but BBAN was too greedy and impatient to wait it out.
quote: Broadband Wireless International Corporation v. Enhancement Holdings, LLC.
On May 12, 2004, we filed suit in Nevada District Court against Enhancement Holdings, LLC, Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh for fraud, negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract and rescission. The suit was removed to the United States District Court for the District of Nevada on May 19, 2004. The lawsuit arises out of an agreement between the Company and Enhancement Holdings, LLC pursuant to which Enhancement Holdings, LLC had agreed to provide a guaranty to facilitate the acquisition of a line of credit for the Company. On June 8, 2004, the court entered a temporary restraining order enjoining Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from holding themselves out as officers and/or directors of the Company and prohibiting them from selling or transferring any shares in the Company. On June 16, 2004, the court entered a preliminary injunction to the same effect. After a further hearing before the court on July 22, 2004, the court ordered that the preliminary injunction be dissolved to the extent that it prohibited Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from holding themselves out as directors of the Company. The court also ordered the Company to hold a special stockholders election to determine who should serve as the Company's directors. The case was set for hearing on December 13, 2004 but was continued to February 15, 2005.
After the removal of Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from our board of directors and due to the fact that they have no assets to attach, we decided it would be in the best interest of the Company to dismiss the case without prejudice.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
it could take as long as 37 days to complete the deposition of witnesses and or defedants then they need to review thier findings and go forward or not. this part of the doc is about depostions, not the length of the investigation as you can see. this can be changed by the judge
Posted by humble on :
read the 2nd story ..... if its a repost , sorry .
Not exactly "PROOF" of fake bonds but I have not found one single link of where Rufus has denied this claim by BBAN .
That link displays information that:
1) does not mention anything about bonds whatsoever 2) is largely from a BBAN filing (I believe in 2004) that only paints the story as viewed by managers at that time 3) does nothing to educate or otherwise provide valuable/relevant information at this juncture.
It is too bad you seem to be in need of a puddle in which to wallow with your investing misfortunes condsidering CSHD is moving forward, albeit at a pace not pleasant for people who spend eight hours a day staring at the computer screen. Please do not try to spread the gloom and doom attitude via biased info about the past; let's stick to CSHD.
There is nothing pretty about the BBAN situation but I see it as no more than a power struggle that went poorly for all involved. Both parties pulled out all the stops and that whole play is history. CSHD is the present topic.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by bigstocks on :
frank021474: ok thesource- you talked me into it. I am dumping 1st thing in the morning.
Ya he's been trying to convince us for awhile now that its a scam.
Posted by thesource on :
And OJ was found innocent of murder ..... anyone think he's innocent ? Whats your point 10 ?
Maybe the bonds were real but I have not found anything even remotely pointing to that . If someone can verify the bonds were infact real , please provide me a link . I have not found anything close to it so far .
Posted by highhopes on :
Lets not forget that corporte governance is much tougher now then it was then and it is unlikely that Rufus is not aware of that. Let us also not forget that in this case a temporary CEO was named, investigated the issues, and turned the company back over to RPH with a PR that indicates there are assets. I continue to believe that this transfer would not have occurred had the SEC and Mike Alexander believed that this was another BBAN.
Posted by bigstocks on :
And he's still asking for links.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Glass? since you are married...not even then... Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: the very last sentence in this article... "we decided it would be in the best interest of the Company to dismiss the case without prejudice"
You can argue it...and others can argue it...BUT? As I pointed out before...MY EX? filed child abuse charges against me? it was dismissed...Did I abuse my children? Absolutely not...if you search my name will the charges show up? yep! to an outsider looking in? I must have done it...RIGHT?
read the 2nd story ..... if its a repost , sorry .
Not exactly "PROOF" of fake bonds but I have not found one single link of where Rufus has denied this claim by BBAN .
you are right 10, I have had a similar situation where I was accused of something I didn't do yet still got a fine out of it....the judge said to me that because the someone filed a complaint, someone had to pay and now it is on my record....what BS!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Just look at the dates Source...
May 2004 June 2004 July 2004 BBAN unhappy because they had no line of credit.
December 2004 and Feb 2005 still in court unhappy.
Then dismiss the case without prejudice. Why?
Oh yeah they didn't ink the deal with Banco Central de Venezeula till march of 2006... Hmm could there have been another event back in Feb -Mar of 2005? I don't know? maybe it should be DD'd. HA HA!
Posted by new2stocks on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13: [QB] the very last sentence in this article... "we decided it would be in the best interest of the Company to dismiss the case without prejudice"
You can argue it...and others can argue it...BUT? As I pointed out before...MY EX? filed child abuse charges against me? it was dismissed...Did I abuse my children? Absolutely not...if you search my name will the charges show up? yep! to an outsider looking in? I must have done it...RIGHT?
you are right 10, I have had a similar situation where I was accused of something I didn't do yet still got a fine out of it....the judge said to me that because the someone filed a complaint, someone had to pay and now it is on my record....what BS!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri? I don't think that there is a "written" time frame on any of this...
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone remind me - how long did the injunction give them to find more information - 30 days?
it could take as long as 37 days to complete the deposition of witnesses and or defedants then they need to review thier findings and go forward or not. this part of the doc is about depostions, not the length of the investigation as you can see. this can be changed by the judge
Thanks, Mad. That is really what I was getting at - I know the investigation can continue, but it seems to me that by the end of the 37 days they will have all of their information from the witnesses etc. Then, they have to fish or cut bait - granted, they could choose to look at the information for weeks on end, but one would hope not.
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Lets not forget that corporte governance is much tougher now then it was then and it is unlikely that Rufus is not aware of that. Let us also not forget that in this case a temporary CEO was named, investigated the issues, and turned the company back over to RPH with a PR that indicates there are assets. I continue to believe that this transfer would not have occurred had the SEC and Mike Alexander believed that this was another BBAN.
HighHopes .... Your last two posts were right on the button. Good points....
Posted by thesource on :
For CSHD stock holders only :
Free kool aid and fried shorts available upon request as well .
Posted by glassman on :
LOL... source? if that's aimed at me? you really have missed the whole point...
go over to off-topics and get caught up...
Posted by mo-rydr on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postiton also....
Lets all keep in mind the SEC has to prove fraud on the part of CSHD, so far nothing has come of that...IMO the SEC will NEVER admit fault, they will continue to state they believe there accusations are correct forever. They are the prosecution, if you can tell me the last time a prosecuter has admitted that their case was not justified let me know..even if the defendent is found not guilty by the court, the prosecution always remains adamant regarding their accusations...
I am a couple of pages back and trying to catch up - I believe mnvestor is on the right track here, my opinion is that whether the SEC is acting on behalf of individuals filing complaints or in collusion with MM's (a conjectured speculation), or both, that the SEC is taking the position as the prosecutor and (as I have posted before) they will never accept that the bonds are valid. Thus a judge will have to determine the true validity of the bonds. This means that a lenghty court case is ensueing as Alana has stated unless somehow Rufus can get the legal system to step in and put a stop to this. Maybe this is what Rufus is referring to in the hints that he has made towards a Congressional Hearing, maybe there is a way to go over the court's head and make them (the court) determine that the bonds are valid, and so negating the SEC's ability to prosecute CSHD.
Just a postulation of Rufus' position - FWIW
Posted by new2stocks on :
sorry for the double post....
Posted by highhopes on :
Source, instead of fishing around for more hilarious clip art why don't you address the question of what the transfer from Alexander back to RPH was all about? Did Alexander decide this thing was wrong and the SEC advised him the best thing to do was to hand the reins back over the Rufus and issue an ambigous PR? Do you really think Alexander knew that things were not right and independently decided that was the best thing to do?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Maybe the bonds were real but I have not found anything even remotely pointing to that . If someone can verify the bonds were infact real , please provide me a link . I have not found anything close to it so far .
Choose any of the above links. Posted by bigstocks on :
He wont look there.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Source, instead of fishing around for more hilarious clip art why don't you address the question of what the transfer from Alexander back to RPH was all about? Did Alexander decide this thing was wrong and the SEC advised him the best thing to do was to hand the reins back over the Rufus and issue an ambigous PR? Do you really think Alexander knew that things were not right and independently decided that was the best thing to do?
I think MA found himself wading around knee deep in $hit wearing some flip flops .
Or maybe he had a better offer come along from a trillion dollar company , who knows ????
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Maybe the bonds were real but I have not found anything even remotely pointing to that . If someone can verify the bonds were infact real , please provide me a link . I have not found anything close to it so far .
I am talking about the bonds from the BBAN deal , not the bonds from the CSHD deals .
Posted by 6digits on :
Crab- The our street piece of crap from ihub has been complaining about Conversion to the Sec since Rufus mentioned the $15 a share deal back in July.
quote:Originally posted by CRab: The SEC does not investigate a company without complaints...did CSHD file complaints on themselves? Or was it perhaps someone that didn't have enough info, maybe it was someone with some sort of alterior motive? The simple answer is you or I or anyone else here for that matter doesn't know, so don't place blame where it isn't due.
I'm not saying certain things might not have been handled poorly, but I am saying me, you and everyone else needs to realize we aren't seeing the whole picture here.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: NO ONE ELSE .......
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: He wont look there.
I've already been there and read over the stuff .
Posted by wv1973 on :
I direct your attention to the legal definition of "dismissal without prejudice."
dismissal n. 1) the act of voluntarily terminating a criminal prosecution or a lawsuit or one of its causes of action by one of the parties. 2) a judge's ruling that a lawsuit or criminal charge is terminated. 3) an appeals court's act of dismissing an appeal, letting the lower court decision stand. 4) the act of a plaintiff dismissing a lawsuit upon settling the case. Such a dismissal may be dismissal with prejudice, meaning it can never be filed again, or dismissal without prejudice, leaving open the possibility of bringing the suit again if the defendant does not follow through on the terms of the settlement.
If the terms of the settlement w/BBAN says never be involved in similar actions again, RPH could have these old charges rear up and bite him in the arse.
Also, how does someone with no assets in 02/05, come up with this huge ranch and horses et. al.? I got to be doing something wrong. Oh yeah -- I invest in penny stocks.
Posted by bigstocks on :
He doesnt believe those links so why would he believe any link provided?
Posted by highhopes on :
Yeah he realized that he was wading knee deep and decided the right thing to do, on behalf of the shareholders he was responsible to, was to issue a PR saying that all was good and run for the hills. You can bet your a$$ that if he even whiffed a problem he would have gone to the SEC for guidance given the circumstances.
Posted by 10of13 on :
My point? What is your point? You have given yet another example that the courts don't "work" and you can't believe all that you read and see...so what is your point?
Sorry you bought this too high...and lost money..sell..cut your losses and move on...there is no court that will prove to you that this isn't a scam...you have made up your mind... Move along lil doggie...move along...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: And OJ was found innocent of murder ..... anyone think he's innocent ? Whats your point 10 ?
Maybe the bonds were real but I have not found anything even remotely pointing to that . If someone can verify the bonds were infact real , please provide me a link . I have not found anything close to it so far .
Posted by frank021474 on :
Any other BBAN stuff we want to dig up on the CSHD thread?
Just curious-
Whats next? RPH use to beat up the geeks in the school band when he was a teenager?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They never mentioned bonds... it was a "guaranteed aquisition of a line of credit". Most likely based on bond deals that had not been inked as of yet. They are inked now, and that is all that counts.
Posted by CRab on :
That is kinda the point the I was trying to make 6digits, lol. I just wanted those reading to come to that conclusion themseslves. If someone reads something and figures it out for themselves it usually means a little more.
Although in this case...I seriously doubt anyone reading hasn't already come to their own conclusion regarding the bond ownership.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Crab- The our street piece of crap from ihub has been complaining about Conversion to the Sec since Rufus mentioned the $15 a share deal back in July.
Posted by 3403 on :
I was in the school band.
Posted by trade04 on :
[/qb][/QUOTE]I think MA found himself wading around knee deep in $hit wearing some flip flops .
[/QB][/QUOTE] LOL
Posted by frank021474 on :
lol I thought of that as I hit post- sorry.
Perhaps my school band was not the norm back then Posted by CRab on :
If all of your family's assets are in trusts, then you don't personally own anything.
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Also, how does someone with no assets in 02/05, come up with this huge ranch and horses et. al.? I got to be doing something wrong. Oh yeah -- I invest in penny stocks.
Posted by bigstocks on :
3403: I was in the school band. Im sorry. Posted by wv1973 on :
Unfortunately, it seems to me from the discussion with attorney Black as reported by TM, it doesn't seem that those documents filed in GA court are convincing the SEC of RPH's claim of ownership.
Posted by highhopes on :
did you go to band camp?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: If all of your family's assets are in trusts, then you don't personally own anything.
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Also, how does someone with no assets in 02/05, come up with this huge ranch and horses et. al.? I got to be doing something wrong. Oh yeah -- I invest in penny stocks.
I was going to say "Living trust" too CRab. Nothing smarter in my opinion.
Posted by thedoctor on :
High .... You are getting good ..... You get stars
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Unfortunately, it seems to me from the discussion with attorney Black as reported by TM, it doesn't seem that those documents filed in GA court are convincing the SEC of RPH's claim of ownership.
Must not have been very convincing. Considering the judge did NOT honor the complaint from the SEC regarding disolving the company and ousting RPH from office- never to serve as company officer again.
Proof from CSHD was probably some BMP doctored up in Adobe that put RPH name on a bazillion dollar bill.
Or was something sufficient enough to keep the company from being shut down and RPH NOT getting thrown into the general population of sing sing?
Perhaps the Judge is a shareholder and ignored the monopoly money RPH had in the Corp Safe.
Posted by 3403 on :
Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: and theyll be lining down the block just to watch what i drop...........im so delicious
Are you listening to Fergie?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Lol Ive seen band camp girls not that I've been there. Posted by wv1973 on :
yep frank, that's got to be it. that will do it.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: They never mentioned bonds... it was a "guaranteed aquisition of a line of credit". Most likely based on bond deals that had not been inked as of yet. They are inked now, and that is all that counts.
Are you referring to the BBAN bonds promised by Rufus ? The bonds were said to be real and actually sitting in a bank in Mississippi if I remember correctly . This was said by Rufus when he ran Enhancement Holdings .
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
wv1973 ~ I think they could pile $7.2 Billion on her desk after hypotication, and she would still be singing the same tune.
Attourney's do not like to admit they are "barking up the wrong tree", especially when it could cost them their job.
I can see her now reading this board... with her eyes closed, fingers in her ears, yelling "NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA!"...
Posted by wv1973 on :
don't forget the majorettes.
Posted by thesource on :
News Out !!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
Bigstock, Yes twelve weren't hot, how many does that leave?
Posted by wv1973 on :
That's an interesting picture, Tax. Is she stomping her feet, the the scene in Wedding Crashers, so her bosoms bounce up and down?
Posted by 10of13 on :
???
quote:Originally posted by thesource: News Out !!!!
IMO, the SEC would be better off investigating the "source" of their information on CSHD...I am sure ol T. Miles has given them a handful of BS material to go along with his constant complaining. This investigation IMO was brought to the attention of the SEC by the real crooks
Posted by 66inxs on :
nothing on the cvsu website as of now???
Posted by CRab on :
there isn't any news out 10, just ignore it...
Posted by bigstocks on :
3403 Ok I should have been in the band Posted by milliam on :
I'm a bit behind here, so I appologize for bringing up old stuff...
As for the lawyer. Mike hired a lawyer to deal with the SEC. From what I understand, the lawyer didn't quite understand and thought he was hired only for the audit. I do believe they got this cleared up when the judge conference called with Mike, his lawyer, and the SEC attorneys.
On SPR, Rufus said he didn't think they had a lawyer at this time. Maybe the lawyer was only Mike's, who knows. Anyway, Rufus's comment was that getting an attorney was the first step. He was also looking for a "tiger" for an attorney. At the BBQ, I think someone asked him about representing himself and he said something to the fact that he wouldn't try that.
Now, on to the SEC. Alana does seem like a very pleasant person. She was very nice to me when we spoke briefly. There's no doubt in my mind that the SEC attorneys feel they have a case and that CSHD is a fraud. Lets remember though what Bill Hicks, the lead attorney, said...and I quote "we're going to find something"...as in we haven't found anything yet...hello!
I'm like most here in that I wish Rufus would go after this to prove its legit...not sit back and wait for the SEC to prove they are right or wrong. I think (hope) that is what is going to happen now.
Take care all...I'm off to my B-day dinner. My mother-in-law is making me my favorite...homemade chicken parmesan...she's Italian so you know its good .
Posted by wv1973 on :
It takes a thief to catch a thief??????????????
Posted by portman on :
you didnt like? cindy on yahoo posted the link and i got some laughs lol...lighten up! wheres ur sense of humor?
NO, BITE ME!
Actually, she just opened herself up to lawsuit from whoever took that picture...copyright law is a bit peculiar like that...lol
Posted by St. Matthew on :
That was beautiful...almost brought a tear to my eye...whoops, there it is. Well done Tax.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: wv1973 ~ I think they could pile $7.2 Billion on her desk after hypotication, and she would still be singing the same tune.
Attourney's do not like to admit they are "barking up the wrong tree", especially when it could cost them their job.
I can see her now reading this board... with her eyes closed, fingers in her ears, yelling "NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA!"...
Posted by 10of13 on :
yeah I fell for it... So that would mean that he(the source) is a Liar? Time to ignore...for all to ignore... move along lil doggie...move along...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: there isn't any news out 10, just ignore it...
Posted by 3403 on :
wv1973, are you from West Virgina?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Here it is fresh off the wire :
All that work and thats the best pic you came up with???
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Dude...happy B-Day! Nice post. I agree...let's not wait like we did with the 10-K while saying "It's in the best interest of the shareholders". Like Rufus said..."It's time to go!"
quote:Originally posted by milliam: I'm a bit behind here, so I appologize for bringing up old stuff...
As for the lawyer. Mike hired a lawyer to deal with the SEC. From what I understand, the lawyer didn't quite understand and thought he was hired only for the audit. I do believe they got this cleared up when the judge conference called with Mike, his lawyer, and the SEC attorneys.
On SPR, Rufus said he didn't think they had a lawyer at this time. Maybe the lawyer was only Mike's, who knows. Anyway, Rufus's comment was that getting an attorney was the first step. He was also looking for a "tiger" for an attorney. At the BBQ, I think someone asked him about representing himself and he said something to the fact that he wouldn't try that.
Now, on to the SEC. Alana does seem like a very pleasant person. She was very nice to me when we spoke briefly. There's no doubt in my mind that the SEC attorneys feel they have a case and that CSHD is a fraud. Lets remember though what Bill Hicks, the lead attorney, said...and I quote "we're going to find something"...as in we haven't found anything yet...hello!
I'm like most here in that I wish Rufus would go after this to prove its legit...not sit back and wait for the SEC to prove they are right or wrong. I think (hope) that is what is going to happen now.
Take care all...I'm off to my B-day dinner. My mother-in-law is making me my favorite...homemade chicken parmesan...she's Italian so you know its good .
Posted by 3403 on :
A man who defends himself has an idiot for an attorney.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Yep, originally from WV. In fact I bleed blue and gold. Getting ready to grab something to eat, a couple of brews, relax and watch the Backyard Brawl in a few hours.
Posted by 10of13 on :
God how awful for you! 26 girls? No human should have to suffer through that...I am very sorry...
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Yep, originally from WV. In fact I bleed blue and gold. Getting ready to grab something to eat, a couple of brews, relax and watch the Backyard Brawl in a few hours.
When one graduates from West Virgina, they don't give them a diploma they give them a map to Cleveland.
Posted by 3403 on :
Just having fun, I was born there, and grew up in Cleveland./
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: God how awful for you! 26 girls? No human should have to suffer through that...I am very sorry...
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
The bears smell the menstruation!
Posted by wv1973 on :
1973 was the year I graduated. My son obtained his bachelors at WV as well, and was the Mountaineer for a year.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Who are you...better yet, why are you? You serve no purpose here and if I know this group like I think I do, you are just giving us further resolve. What you are messing with, sir, is a group of pretty smart cookies who happen to be badgers when pushed into a corner. You will not win with this group...ever.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Here it is fresh off the wire :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: That was beautiful...almost brought a tear to my eye...whoops, there it is. Well done Tax.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: wv1973 ~ I think they could pile $7.2 Billion on her desk after hypotication, and she would still be singing the same tune.
Attourney's do not like to admit they are "barking up the wrong tree", especially when it could cost them their job.
I can see her now reading this board... with her eyes closed, fingers in her ears, yelling "NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA! NA!"...
Actually they would pile 20% of that number since that is the initial hypothecation level mentioned...but that might come with some nice documents indicating the specific valuation of the assets used to secure the loan.
You also do not want to hypothecate more than you need. You do not want to waste the interest expense on that sum until you have a viable candidate for the funds.
If you read some of the JV contracts you will note that CSHD is very good at crafting them. CSHD will be out little if any monies while funding the initial JV's as they are slated to cover most if not all the interest expense as part of the JV's operating overhead.
This is a very SOUND business plan if you DD what they are doing in the contracts. One of the better I have read in a long time. If the JV went out and got a traditional loan they would have that liability anyway. Hence, you see CSHD operating as a typical Financial Institution.
Then again I have always said this play is about getting to the JV stage. That is the trick at this point and it is appearing to be a struggle.
There is nothing magical about what I just said...it is very very old DD.
Oh, and I didn't even go into liability risk mitigation....when they get this off the ground you will see beauty in business.
Posted by bigstocks on :
When one graduates from West Virgina, they don't give them a diploma they give them a map to Cleveland.
Hey now that should get a ban. Posted by 10of13 on :
Frank...that was just wrong! LMAO...
Posted by wv1973 on :
Ah yes, Cleveland. The Mistake on the Lake. Just funnin too. lol. I have an old friend that owns a big pr and ad agency in cleveland. Some mighty fine restaurants in Little Italy as well.
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL- Anchorman...a classic
75% of the time it works everytime~
Posted by 3403 on :
Cleveland had the only river that caught on fire. Took two weeks to put it out.
Posted by 3403 on :
I think Monday we will have a PR, and Ruf will be on SPR Tuesday.
Posted by wv1973 on :
But ------ But You have the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
Watched the Mountaineers play the Gators a few years back down here. Can't remember who won.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Well said Port. Rufus talked about this a bit the other night. You can't simply hypothecate the bonds to show proof that they exist.
You have to follow the business plan and do it when it is a win / win for both the J/V and CSHD. Once we start funding the J/V's, CSHD will be a Financial Institution...and a big one at that.
quote:Originally posted by portman: Actually they would pile 20% of that number since that is the initial hypothecation level mentioned...but that might come with some nice documents indicating the specific valuation of the assets used to secure the loan.
You also do not want to hypothecate more than you need. You do not want to waste the interest expense on that sum until you have a viable candidate for the funds.
If you read some of the JV contracts you will note that CSHD is very good at crafting them. CSHD will be out little if any monies while funding the initial JV's as they are slated to cover most if not all the interest expense as part of the JV's operating overhead.
This is a very SOUND business plan if you DD what they are doing in the contracts. One of the better I have read in a long time. If the JV went out and got a traditional loan they would have that liability anyway. Hence, you see CSHD operating as a typical Financial Institution.
Then again I have always said this play is about getting to the JV stage. That is the trick at this point and it is appearing to be a struggle.
There is nothing magical about what I just said...it is very very old DD.
Oh, and I didn't even go into liability risk mitigation....when they get this off the ground you will see beauty in business.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I think Monday we will have a PR, and Ruf will be on SPR Tuesday.
They had better file the BOD changes by MON 5:30PM EST in an 8K.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
uhh well we are. You sound a bit gay. Posted by 3403 on :
Yes sceptor, I was happy that weekend. That is what you meant isn't it............
Posted by portman on :
St Matt...I did not even fully listen to the latest SPR interviews. It's just the financial/business side of me talking...this is what makes business sense and they have placed it in the contracts. This is the type of stuff that began to suck me into liking what they were doing.
The person who can understand who to put all these pieces together as they are laid out for us all to see has a unique business sense that is rare.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
uhh well we are. You sound a bit gay.
Honestly, I got 3 at home and it is a madhouse... what fun would 26 be? Sounds like that he** the Islamic radicals claim to be waiting for them in the afterlife.
27 virgins... HA! Give me on hot experienced woman over 27 whiny mall-brats any day. Could you imagine just one trip to a restaurant with 27 chicks. I would be ditchin'em and spending my money on beer at the ballgame in no time flat.
TB
Posted by 3403 on :
portman tell your quarterback to stay off motorcycles. Go Jags
Posted by 3403 on :
When you are 16 it is okay, when you get our age one is to many half the time.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO! Cat? Do you hear this man? Now go and enjoy your night!
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes I went to band camp. The only guy with 26 girls......... Who's laughing now.... LOL
uhh well we are. You sound a bit gay.
Honestly, I got 3 at home and it is a madhouse... what fun would 26 be? Sounds like that he** the Islamic radicals claim to be waiting for them in the afterlife.
27 virgins... HA! Give me on hot experienced woman over 27 whiny mall-brats any day. Could you imagine just one trip to a restaurant with 27 chicks. I would be ditchin'em and spending my money on beer at the ballgame in no time flat.
TB
Posted by 10of13 on :
Now now...watch it!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: When you are 16 it is okay, when you get our age one is to many half the time.
Posted by 3403 on :
Sorry girls. Will be a good boy.
Posted by new2stocks on :
g'night all..catch ya in the morning!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Honestly 10of13. I do not know how public school teachers even pretend to enjoy their job.
I can not wait till my three kids understand three things "No", "Don't touch that!", and "Stop it!".
My parents say that they never will, but I am hopeful anyway. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OT: And has anyone else realized that the second a child learns how to use the potty by themselves. They instantly learn how to ask annoying questions over and over again.
It is like one annoying thing that wastes your money goes away, and is instantly replaced with a new annoying thing that wastes your time.
I am just kidding... kids are a blast. But from time to time I just wish they were born grown up. he he... (I know my wife doesn't feel this way.) Posted by 3403 on :
Tax, you are a lucky man....
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: portman tell your quarterback to stay off motorcycles. Go Jags
What? They just need to stop the turnovers. Are you seeing those numbers on offense outside turnovers?
Posted by portman on :
Posted by 6digits on :
thesource- Shove it back up.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: News Out !!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tax...School teachers? they get to send the kid home... I'm not sure how old your children are...BUT...when they come to the point that they understand...NO and don't touch that? you will go from being annoyed at them to being darn right pissed off that they took the car AFTER you said "NO! Don't touch that!" Enjoy the younger years...it really doesn't get any better! Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OT: And has anyone else realized that the second a child learns how to use the potty by themselves. They instantly learn how to ask annoying questions over and over again.
It is like one annoying thing that wastes your money goes away, and is instantly replaced with a new annoying thing that wastes your time.
I am just kidding... kids are a blast. But from time to time I just wish they were born grown up. he he... (I know my wife doesn't feel this way.)
What... you didn't teach your kids..."I know you are but what am I?"
You need to learn Portman's rule of Men....We mentally do not go beyond the age of nine.
The exception to the rule is Men are 14 where women are concerned.
Have kids...get to pick the toys for them that you want.
For humor only... My theory on women is that my wife should at all times be wearing something from Vicky's (Victoria's Secret). It is her opinion that I am an idiot as well... Posted by 10of13 on :
When ever my kids would ask Why? I would answer them with "Z!"...which meant the same as "Because I said so..." They all knew it...and the "Z" answer worked...for many years...until the 6th child...when he was just over 3, he asked "Why?" I said "Z" and he said "Z is for Zebra's"...and continued to ask why...it took 6 kids before any would challenge my Z...I guess this means they finally broke me?!
Posted by 10of13 on :
portman says: "Have kids...get to pick the toys for them that you want."
It is so hilarious to see these parents at Toys R Us or somewhere with a 1 year old and the dad will be holding a remote control car or something saying "Look buddy...isn't this cool? you want Santa to get you this?"...and the dad throws it in the cart...LOL
Portman also states.. "For humor only... My theory on women is that my wife should at all times be wearing something from Vicky's (Victoria's Secret). It is her opinion that I am an idiot as well"
I would agree...under a flannel shirt...with sweatpants...! I am getting close to agreeing with her opinion
J/K
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Who are you...better yet, why are you? You serve no purpose here and if I know this group like I think I do, you are just giving us further resolve. What you are messing with, sir, is a group of pretty smart cookies who happen to be badgers when pushed into a corner. You will not win with this group...ever.
Smart cookie ? Weren't you the one at the Mexican restraunt listening to all of Rufus's bs just days before he stepped down ? You falling for his bull$hit doesn't make you stupid but it does make you far from a smart cookie .
And as for being a badger in a corner , why not channel some of that energy to actually questioning things instead of blindly following some moron wearing a cowboy hat and a duster like he's Wyatt Earp or something .
Posted by thecon00 on :
INTRESTING!!! :
What do you think????
I notice Alana Black in that conversation earlier made mention of, “lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.”
The fact that SEC is working on a lawsuit would imply no criminal action I believe. Notice def.:
A lawsuit is a civil action brought before a court in which the party commencing the action, the plaintiff, seeks a legal remedy. Often, one or more defendants are required to answer the plaintiff's complaint. If the plaintiff is successful, judgment will be given in the plaintiff's favour, and a range of court orders may be issued to enforce a right, impose a penalty, award damages, impose an injunction to prevent an act or compel an act, or to obtain a declaratory judgment to prevent future legal disputes. It usually involves dispute resolution of private law issues between individuals, business entities or non-profit organizations. However, it may involve public law issues in those jurisdictions that enable the government to be treated as if it were a private party in a lawsuit (as plaintiff or defendant regarding an injury), or that provide the government with a civil cause of action to enforce certain laws rather than criminal prosecution. The conduct of a lawsuit is called litigation.
Notice the last part:
the government with a civil cause of action to enforce certain laws rather than criminal prosecution.
This would indicate they may be following up on RPH misstating or apparently misleading but NOT something criminal ( out and out fraud). Thus nothing criminal has been filed to date. I thing our hunches are getting more and more clear by the day!
Posted by Repoman75 on :
*whistling*
Posted by 10of13 on :
thecon00... IMO it has always been only a "civil action"...the possible criminal charges COULD follow if the civil action panned out...the way that I understood things...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: What... you didn't teach your kids..."I know you are but what am I?"
You need to learn Portman's rule of Men....We mentally do not go beyond the age of nine.
The exception to the rule is Men are 14 where women are concerned.
Have kids...get to pick the toys for them that you want.
I tried that once portman and my wife said, "Why are you arguing with the five year old?" I thought about it for a second and then registered at Allstock's. HA!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Someone on HSM posted this- anyone got access to PACER?
Deadline/Hearing Event Filed 11/16/06 Due/Set 12/04/06 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA ATLANTA DIVISION SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
Civil Action No. v. 1:06-CV-2568-CC
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
Defendants.
APPLICATION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”), plaintiff in the above-referenced matter, hereby applies to the Clerk of the Court pursuant to Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for an entry of default against defendant Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (“Conversion”). Entry of default is sought against Conversion for failure to plead or otherwise defend as provided by Rule 55(a).
In support of this application for entry of default against Conversion, the plaintiff has filed Conversion’s return of service. The return of service of process establishes that Conversion, through its registered agent for service of process, Harvard Business Services of Lewes, Delaware, was served with the summons, complaint, request for temporary restraining order, memorandum in support, proposed order, and other associated documents on October 26, 2006. The return of service of process was filed with this Court on November 16, 2006 and is now part of the record in this case. Conversion was obligated to file an answer to the complaint not later than November 15, 2006, but has not filed an answer as required by the federal rules. Since Conversion has not timely filed a response to the complaint, and has not sought an extension, the entry of default is now appropriate. Under Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Clerk of Court is instructed to enter a default against a defendant who “has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by the rules,” when a failure to defend is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise. Indeed, the purpose of Rule 55(a) is to relieve the district judge of the obligation of reviewing applications for the entry of default. 6 James W. Moore et al. Moore’s Federal Practice ¶ 55.03[1] n.16 (2d ed. 1992). Thus, the power to enter default is given to the Clerk. Based therefore on the previously filed return of service of summons establishing that Conversion was served through its agent for service of process on October 26, 2006, and the authority specifically granted to the Clerk by Rule 55(a), the Commission respectfully requests the Clerk enter a default against defendant Conversion Solutions forthwith.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ William P. Hicks William P. Hicks District Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 351649 /s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Senior Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 785045 Counsel for Plaintiff SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION 3475 Lenox Road, N.E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Telephone: (404) 842-7600 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that on this 16th day of November, 2006, I mailed by United States Postal Service the preceding Notice of Filing of Returns of Service to the following non-CM/ECF participants: Rufus Paul Harris a/k/a Paul Rufus Harris 383 Clear Creek Road, N.W. Adairsville, Georgia 30103-5934 Conversion Solutions Holdings Corporation c/o Registered Agent Harvard Business Services 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958
/s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Counsel for Plaintiff Georgia Bar No. 785045 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Atlanta District Office 3475 Lenox Road, N. E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Tel. No. (404) 842-7678 blacka*sec.gov
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
WOW. This is really over. The SEC just won by default.
I hope you all can get some of your money out of this tomorrow am. It's going to be a bloodbath!
10Q ? lol, now that's funny. Rufus must be the most incompetent, insane person to have not just played this by the rules of the SEC.
The only one to blame for the pps right now: RUFUS PAUL HARRIS.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: thecon00... IMO it has always been only a "civil action"...the possible criminal charges COULD follow if the civil action panned out...the way that I understood things...
They will follow. Rufus is going to get the know the SEC, the Courts, and probably the US prison system very well over the next few years.
Unforuntately Longs have paid the ultimate price.
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: WOW. This is really over. The SEC just won by default.
I hope you all can get some of your money out of this tomorrow am. It's going to be a bloodbath!
10Q ? lol, now that's funny. Rufus must be the most incompetent, insane person to have not just played this by the rules of the SEC.
The only one to blame for the pps right now: RUFUS PAUL HARRIS.
no chitttt
Posted by driver4t4 on :
from HSM. I found this on ********** I hope it clarify's a few things---
On Nov. 16, the SEC filed an application for entry of default against the company.
"Conversion was obligated to file an answer to the complaint not later than November 15, 2006, but has not filed an answer as required by the federal rules," the SEC notes in its Nov. 16 application.
"Since Conversion has not timely filed a response to the complaint, and has not sought an extension, the entry of default is now appropriate," the U.S. regulator claims.
Mr. Harris was not served until Nov. 4 when the process server handed the documents to the defendant's daughter, Kayla Harris, so he has until Nov. 25 to file an answer to the complaint.
An excerpt of the entire article
Posted by frank021474 on :
I don't think its over- they can showing the court WHY they were late. Kind of challenge the default (who knows might be penalized $$).
Ask a good lawyer to explain it- I read some of it on HSM and looked up some of it.
Either way court date is 12/4. Unless perhaps the judge can deny the motion for default? Don't know
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
I call dibs on Dark Chocolate
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I really wish you all had listened and cut your losses at .40-45. It's already down to .30, and there's simply no floor--no support at all--to keep this one from going to the dreaded $0.0001 ... sorry everybody, but it sounds like it's just about time to turn out the lights on this stock--and all of these threads, as well.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL...
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I call dibs on Dark Chocolate
this is interesting...in the things that i have read as far as the dates go? I was not able to find anywhere where stated that there was a time frame to answer this. I would have thought that things would have been taken care of with the consent that was signed..BUT? I guess that's why you get a lawyer...
To be honest? this almost seems kinda "back door"
so again the games continue... Posted by Jenna on :
Exactly Right 10!!! - GAMES.....
Posted by TimW on :
Were starry eyed followers...
Dreamy.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Has Rufus called into Subpenny radio yet? LOL
Posted by glassman on :
Rufufs is permanntly prohibited from acting as an officer or director of ANY issuer of securitites..
Posted by 3403 on :
It sure seems Rufus makes things a lot more difficult then they have to be.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Not only that 10of13 ~ I know durring my DD that we established the Registered Agent was Maurice Bennet at one point, and we saw that William Tay had the honor at one point and turned it over. I think the SEC submitted the the Service to the wrong outlet.
Seems like a very weak play on that point.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
So in other words I have lost a grand here too besides the 4 grand with DDSI. What a great f4ck4ing week...................
Posted by glassman on :
i see nothing in there that is changed since Rufus already "signed off" on the SEC's case...
except that he now COULD be enjoined form ever being on a BOD or hold any officers postion in a publicly traded US compmany...
nothing has changed... except the Judge can make a decision on what the apropriate punishment should be, and that is gonna happen fast ( i hope, or should anyway) ...
didn't Roofie say he was retiring anyway?
IF? they have one of these bonds? i think it could get liquidated and distributed?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Not, sure but he's played things so idiotic thus far it wouldn't surprise me if he called SPR with his one phone call from jail.
Simon .... this is Rufus Paul Harris calling you from federal prison. Just thought I would call in and remind you of what I promised. You, sir will never forget the name Rufus Paul Harris. You got that right cornholio! CSHD would change your life forever. Yes, you nailed that one too, CEO of the Year.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has Rufus called into Subpenny radio yet? LOL
Posted by TimW on :
LoL
Anyone else have Pacer to verify this? I cant find it. But then again i could barely make my way around georgias court website either.. im sure im missing it.
Posted by glassman on :
if the Judge decides to liquidate the supposed "assets"? that might be something nopbody else could do?
an EXACT shareholder list WILL be generated....
could get interesting...
he "garanteed" somebody some money? LOL..
if this is his plan? it's the craziest darn thing i've ever seen...
Posted by 10of13 on :
So if the time frame of the answer is from the time of which he was served??? the SEC once again has jumped the gun here... Back door games...this is NOT normal...
Posted by Jenna on :
10- Do they think they can fool the judge with the dates? I don't understand what the heck the SEC is doing?
Isn't it from when your served?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
As I said on the last page of this thread, I CALL DIBS ON DARK CHOCHOLATE.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: if the Judge decides to liquidate the supposed "assets"? that might be something nopbody else could do?
an EXACT shareholder list WILL be generated....
could get interesting...
he "garanteed" somebody some money? LOL..
if this is his plan? it's the craziest darn thing i've ever seen...
Posted by driver4t4 on :
paste from hsm Originally Posted by ALady in the House Mike already applied for a extentsion. on Fri.
Posted by Jenna on :
Simon is reading the default.......
Posted by TimW on :
If assetts are liquidated, just like that, what happenens to those that are short in the company?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: So if the time frame of the answer is from the time of which he was served??? the SEC once again has jumped the gun here... Back door games...this is NOT normal...
i don't know that they have jumped the gun 10...
if anything? the Judge should have stopped trading since the intitial halt....
i do beleive it is within a Federal Judges right to order a halt in trades...
the BROKERS are the ones that decide whether to trade in the greys..
i know that for a fackkkk, it is at their discretion.
Posted by Jenna on :
TexasMoney- I don't think you need to ride that horse just yet.......
Posted by 10of13 on :
Jenna? I understand it as ALWAYS from when you are served...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: If assetts are liquidated, just like that, what happenens to those that are short in the company?
that could get messy....
just don't start saying that my MUSINGS are facts.. i am only guessing here..and we still don't know what assets are real, and what are fiction...
alot of people are sure GW Bush is an idiot too..
and others are convinced he "plays dumb"...
i dunno...
but yeah, that could really get messy..
Posted by 10of13 on :
This whole thing..From Rufus to the Bashers to the SEC is MESSY...there ain't no "get" in that!
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: 10- Do they think they can fool the judge with the dates? I don't understand what the heck the SEC is doing?
Isn't it from when your served?
The company was served on the 26th. Rufus will get his next week.
Posted by Jenna on :
This thing goes back & forth so much, I bet by midnight all will be good & explained.....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
anyone have mike Alexander cell #, thought i seen it somewhere..
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anyone have the link to the court stuff? I can't find it... When was the company actually served? That poster on HSM claims Mike filed for an extension last Friday...but I never saw it... AND? the Judge may not have accepted it if it wasn't filed by a lawyer...since the judge said to get one...just a thought..
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Jenna - Check your messages please.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Jenna - Check your messages please.
Did- Check yours...
Posted by Jenna on :
Simon is calling Rufus right now!!! I bet he won't answer....
Posted by Jenna on :
Rufus didn't answer.....
Posted by Jenna on :
I have to leave to pick up my daughter from in-door soccer- be back in about an hour (for the people who care)....
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: It sure seems Rufus makes things a lot more difficult then they have to be.
Yes I agree. His first day in court with no attorney and leaving a trail of fresh horsesh*t didn't leave a very good first impression.
Posted by TimW on :
It still makes you wonder.. if this is really a scam where are there so many people following it everyday, showing so much interest in it.
That to me is worth more than any ammount of DD.. Ive never seen a "scam" followed this much.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
Originally Posted by 9Dawg My take on this is that the SEC is looking for a technicality. I read over a few cases quickly and it appears that the Judge has the discretion to allow CSHD to "cure" its default if CSHD moves quickly to file an Answer. It can be reasonably argued to the judge that CSHD has appeared in court, cooperatively participated in depositions by the appearance of certain officers, cooperatively answered written discovery requests, entered into a Consent Order and submitted documents on behalf of the company under seal with the Court. CSHD, although apparently not formally appeared by filing an Answer, can hardly be argued to have ignored these proceedings. Although the best thing would have been to timely file an Answer, it is not yet the end of the world.
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: It still makes you wonder.. if this is really a scam where are there so many people following it everyday, showing so much interest in it.
That to me is worth more than any ammount of DD.. Ive never seen a "scam" followed this much.
CMKX, QBID, MLON
Posted by driver4t4 on :
from alady.. First of all I porbably have more invested in this matter than all of you put together, this is my son even if you don't want to believe it I don't care!!!! all of you just jump to all kinds of conclusions sometimes I know that you are just comming up with something to talk about. Please try to trust this CO. and Rufus he has more to loose than you all. Take a breath and a step back give things a little time there is good things ahead to those who wait. If you don't want to[sale]. But you could miss out??? and the next time Paul is on sup penny radio Ask him who I am!!!! ALady in the House
Posted by TimW on :
haha.. nice question on SPR now... asking why stocks mentioned on SPR shoot up then crash.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by penny_player: CMKX, QBID, MLON [/QB]
Whoa. Makes CSHD look like nothing.. lol
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Originally Posted by 9Dawg My take on this is that the SEC is looking for a technicality. I read over a few cases quickly and it appears that the Judge has the discretion to allow CSHD to "cure" its default if CSHD moves quickly to file an Answer. It can be reasonably argued to the judge that CSHD has appeared in court, cooperatively participated in depositions by the appearance of certain officers, cooperatively answered written discovery requests, entered into a Consent Order and submitted documents on behalf of the company under seal with the Court. CSHD, although apparently not formally appeared by filing an Answer, can hardly be argued to have ignored these proceedings. Although the best thing would have been to timely file an Answer, it is not yet the end of the world.
This is currently my take. Still investigating...not worked up util I understand.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
from rufus mom at hsm..Originally Posted by TallRob Mrs. Harris, could you call Rufus can ask him why he didnt respond in time? and what he is goingto do about it? tanks in advance.............still long in the stock.
He is out to dinner with Ben they are having a meeting.
Posted by SherriT on :
Good grief - I think we have officially moved from a movie to either a mini-series or trilogy - depends on whether we are going for megabucks or simply ratings....
Posted by milliam on :
Hey, looks like I might just get my buy in point tomorrow (under $.10).
This thing is crazy.
I know Rufus was asked when the next court date was and he said he had asked the SEC how long this would take. He said that they couldn't say and he tried to push them for a time frame...weeks, months? They wouldn't say.
I'm wondering if this deadline was missed because we didn't have a lawyer to keep up with this. I would have thought this deadline would have been somewhere in the court filings that we've all looked over.
Either way, I think it will be worked out. I hope the judge wouldn't rule on such an important case based on a small infraction...unless that infraction goes un-answered....Rufus get on with it .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
post from tut, (or are we not doing this anymore) Read this carefully to understand:
If, in order to enable the court to enter judgment or to carry it into effect, it is necessary to take an account or to determine the amount of damages or to establish the truth of any averment by evidence or to make an investigation of any other matter, the court may conduct such hearings or order such references as it deems necessary and proper and shall accord a right of trial by jury to the parties when and as required by any statute of the United States.
(c) Setting Aside Default.
For good cause shown the court may set aside an entry of default and, if a judgment by default has been entered, may likewise set it aside in accordance with Rule 60(b).
Posted by atthebank on :
bingo driver
Posted by milliam on :
Here's the whole rule: Rule 55. Default
(a) Entry. When a party against whom a judgment for affirmative relief is sought has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by these rules and that fact is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise, the clerk shall enter the party's default.
(b) Judgment. Judgment by default may be entered as follows:
(1) By the Clerk. When the plaintiff's claim against a defendant is for a sum certain or for a sum which can by computation be made certain, the clerk upon request of the plaintiff and upon affidavit of the amount due shall enter judgment for that amount and costs against the defendant, if the defendant has been defaulted for failure to appear and is not an infant or incompetent person.
(2) By the Court. In all other cases the party entitled to a judgment by default shall apply to the court therefor; but no judgment by default shall be entered against an infant or incompetent person unless represented in the action by a general guardian, committee, conservator, or other such representative who has appeared therein. If the party against whom judgment by default is sought has appeared in the action, the party (or, if appearing by representative, the party's representative) shall be served with written notice of the application for judgment at least 3 days prior to the hearing on such application. If, in order to enable the court to enter judgment or to carry it into effect, it is necessary to take an account or to determine the amount of damages or to establish the truth of any averment by evidence or to make an investigation of any other matter, the court may conduct such hearings or order such references as it deems necessary and proper and shall accord a right of trial by jury to the parties when and as required by any statute of the United States.
(c) Setting Aside Default. For good cause shown the court may set aside an entry of default and, if a judgment by default has been entered, may likewise set it aside in accordance with Rule 60(b).
(d) Plaintiffs, Counterclaimants, Cross-Claimants. The provisions of this rule apply whether the party entitled to the judgment by default is a plaintiff, a third-party plaintiff, or a party who has pleaded a cross-claim or counterclaim. In all cases a judgment by default is subject to the limitations of Rule 54(c).
(e) Judgment Against the United States. No judgment by default shall be entered against the United States or an officer or agency thereof unless the claimant establishes a claim or right to relief by evidence satisfactory to the court.
I asked Tut for an explanation and he posted this...he's on the case.
Today, 08:26 PM #2485 tutankhamen HSM Regular
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 448 Read this carefully to understand:
If, in order to enable the court to enter judgment or to carry it into effect, it is necessary to take an account or to determine the amount of damages or to establish the truth of any averment by evidence or to make an investigation of any other matter, the court may conduct such hearings or order such references as it deems necessary and proper and shall accord a right of trial by jury to the parties when and as required by any statute of the United States.
(c) Setting Aside Default.
For good cause shown the court may set aside an entry of default and, if a judgment by default has been entered, may likewise set it aside in accordance with Rule 60(b).
Posted by milliam on :
Here's rule 60:
Rule 60. Relief from Judgment or Order
(a) Clerical Mistakes. Clerical mistakes in judgments, orders or other parts of the record and errors therein arising from oversight or omission may be corrected by the court at any time of its own initiative or on the motion of any party and after such notice, if any, as the court orders. During the pendency of an appeal, such mistakes may be so corrected before the appeal is docketed in the appellate court, and thereafter while the appeal is pending may be so corrected with leave of the appellate court.
(b) Mistakes; Inadvertence; Excusable Neglect; Newly Discovered Evidence; Fraud, Etc. On motion and upon such terms as are just, the court may relieve a party or a party's legal representative from a final judgment, order, or proceeding for the following reasons: (1) mistake, inadvertence, surprise, or excusable neglect; (2) newly discovered evidence which by due diligence could not have been discovered in time to move for a new trial under Rule 59(b); (3) fraud (whether heretofore denominated intrinsic or extrinsic), misrepresentation, or other misconduct of an adverse party; (4) the judgment is void; (5) the judgment has been satisfied, released, or discharged, or a prior judgment upon which it is based has been reversed or otherwise vacated, or it is no longer equitable that the judgment should have prospective application; or (6) any other reason justifying relief from the operation of the judgment. The motion shall be made within a reasonable time, and for reasons (1), (2), and (3) not more than one year after the judgment, order, or proceeding was entered or taken. A motion under this subdivision (b) does not affect the finality of a judgment or suspend its operation. This rule does not limit the power of a court to entertain an independent action to relieve a party from a judgment, order, or proceeding, or to grant relief to a defendant not actually personally notified as provided in Title 28, U.S.C., § 1655, or to set aside a judgment for fraud upon the court. Writs of coram nobis, coram vobis, audita querela, and bills of review and bills in the nature of a bill of review, are abolished, and the procedure for obtaining any relief from a judgment shall be by motion as prescribed in these rules or by an independent action.
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 451 Shareholder stay calm. You may be over-reacting and mis-interpreting what could turn out to be a very simple explanation and if you actually read rule 55a you would see that a default judgment can be set aside if there is no proof for the allegations. Calm down and think rationally and look at "all" the facts and not just one document before you jump to conclusions.
Posted by SherriT on :
FYI - I got a response from the third of my three letters to senators and congressmen. I'm surprised he bothered to respond at all (better than the other time in life I had a reason to contact him), but said that "Senate Ethics Rules preclude me from becoming involved in legal matters ongoing and final". Oh well, I feel like I can count on the other two to make some things happen or support movements for change FWIW.
Posted by TimW on :
Oh this is better than TV.
Posted by SherriT on :
Anyone else think the SEC is making a mockery of this whole thing? I wish the judge would take a look at the evidence and rule on it...
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Anyone else think the SEC is making a mockery of this whole thing? I wish the judge would take a look at the evidence and rule on it...
The judge may be able to get some evidence to look at if conversion would go to court to and file their statements to begin with.
Posted by thesource on :
Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose Posted by St. Matthew on :
Guys...Rufus and Simon discussed this the other night. Rufus seemed to be very confident about where they stood on this issue. He was aware of this and did not seem to be worried.
Give him a chance to explain what's going on before we all panic and started reaching for each others throats. Let's work together on this tonight. This is the best board for that.
Posted by 3403 on :
Listen, there is absolutley no excuse for not responding in a timely manner, in accordance to the rules of the court. NONE
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Listen, there is absolutley no excuse for not responding in a timely manner, in accordance to the rules of the court. NONE
Its because they don't have an attorney ....... can't you people see that ???
Posted by 3403 on :
There is no excuse for not having an attorney
Posted by St. Matthew on :
We???
You must have played baseball in high school and played left field, because that's were that came from.
What are you talking about...this is just chapter 6. Remember, there are 8 chapters to this book....due to be released in about 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: There is no excuse for not having an attorney
Ditto. Its been weeks now.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
They have an attorney for defense...just not the bulldog they want for offense. You people are confusing this issue.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Listen, there is absolutley no excuse for not responding in a timely manner, in accordance to the rules of the court. NONE
Its because they don't have an attorney ....... can't you people see that ???
Posted by wv1973 on :
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. kumbaya my lord kumbaya
Posted by 10of13 on :
Ohhh Lord, kumbaya...
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. kumbaya my lord kumbaya
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I recommend that we not write a Chapter 7 to the story.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: We???
You must have played baseball in high school and played left field, because that's were that came from.
What are you talking about...this is just chapter 6. Remember, there are 8 chapters to this book....due to be released in about 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
Yeah chapter 7 & 8 are going to be written from the Federal prison . Actually he will probably skate on this whole deal like with BBAN . Sorry SOB .
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: They have an attorney for defense...just not the bulldog they want for offense. You people are confusing this issue.
Just keep telling yourself that ....... by the way I hope the food at the Mexican restraunt was free so atleast you got something for your investment . If not , your even a bigger sucker than I am .
Posted by 10of13 on :
St Matt?...don't bother...back away... Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: They have an attorney for defense...just not the bulldog they want for offense. You people are confusing this issue.
Just keep telling yourself that ....... by the way I hope the food at the Mexican restraunt was free so atleast you got something for your investment . If not , your even a bigger sucker than I am .
actually? we are pretty sure you...
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
So now we have lost, are you finally going to sell so you do not have to post here anymore??????? Posted by thesource on :
Good news , I found Rufus's defense attorney :
Turns out St. Matt was right after all . Posted by fhalyesss on :
Thats bad news!!!!
I thought the good news was you had found your common sense!!!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
So now we have lost, are you finally going to sell so you do not have to post here anymore???????
Not yet ...... having too much damn fun right now . Remember guys , have a sense of humor !!
Its all a part of Rufus's plan .
Posted by TimW on :
Didnt Jim win in Liar Liar?
Dont post contradictions Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
So now we have lost, are you finally going to sell so you do not have to post here anymore???????
Not yet ...... having too much damn fun right now . Remember guys , have a sense of humor !!
Its all a part of Rufus's plan .
Sense of humour?? The fact i am talkin to you shows i have humour!!! Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Didnt Jim win in Liar Liar?
Dont post contradictions
LMAO ....... yeah he did in the movie but I'm sure when the CSHD movie comes out in 2014 Rufus will have kicked the SEC in groin as well and shot the shorties with his 6 shooter .
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Seriously, why don't you guys have this thread deleted, sell your positions in this dud, and find a good listed stock to follow.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Anyone know a good class action attorney? I always wanted a piece of a horse ranch.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Seriously, why don't you guys have this thread deleted, sell your positions in this dud, and find a good listed stock to follow.
Whats that smell?????
Anyone else smell it????
Smells like pork!!!!!!!!!! Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Sense of humour?? The fact i am talkin to you shows i have humour!!!
There ya go ........ now thats showing your sense of humor . Great start !!!
Posted by wv1973 on :
OOOOOOHHHH that smell. can you smell that smell?
Posted by fhalyesss on :
By the way tune into SP right now and listen to this basher get owned by the attorney!!!! Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Seriously, why don't you guys have this thread deleted, sell your positions in this dud, and find a good listed stock to follow.
seriously? Kevin? i bet most of US here do have a few boring stocks "tucked away" for a rainy day....
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Whether Rufus could file an extension or no why does he insist on doing every dam thing the hard way. I just dont get it.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
???
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Anyone know a good class action attorney? I always wanted a piece of a horse ranch.
He probably doesn't even own that land , its probably owned by someone else so it can't be taken away . In all seriousness , the only people I feel bad for are the ones that invested all they could in hopes of a huge payoff . I've heard stories of people taking loans out , using credit cards and even their life savings on this POS stock . I'm out $7500.00 and that sucks but I can make that back in a few weeks at my regular business . Some have thousands invested and will just see it flushed down the toilet . That sucks !!!!
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
glassman-
I just made 15% in five days on one of these supposed "boring" stocks. I'm not talking about sticking your money in Wal-mart for the next 30 years. I'm talking about researching stocks that might actually do something, and making some good plays.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
thesource-
I've heard similar stories. That's why I've poked my nose in here every once in awhile trying to talk sense into people.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I just made 15% in five days on one of these supposed "boring" stocks. I'm not talking about sticking your money in Wal-mart for the next 30 years. I'm talking about researching stocks that might actually do something, and making some good plays.
i know, i read your work...
why do you get so worked up tho?
and what do you have against WalMart? anyway? Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Whether Rufus could file an extension or no why does he insist on doing every dam thing the hard way. I just dont get it.
I don't get it either. Even my little business has a bevy of lawyers available for different things. Either Rufus is an idiot or he can't afford representation. Which do we want to believe.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
glassman-
I don't get "worked up." I simply try to encourage people to cut their losses and invest in a stock that's not a piece of $h!t.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: thesource-
I've heard similar stories. That's why I've poked my nose in here every once in awhile trying to talk sense into people.
Thanks for coming to save us guys, you can go back to your threads now!!!! Posted by St. Matthew on :
Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: We???
You must have played baseball in high school and played left field, because that's were that came from.
What are you talking about...this is just chapter 6. Remember, there are 8 chapters to this book....due to be released in about 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Not surprised at all by this recent news . Rufus is a damn moron plain and simple . Now you know why MA split and wished Rufus good luck . Game Over ........ we lose
Yeah chapter 7 & 8 are going to be written from the Federal prison . Actually he will probably skate on this whole deal like with BBAN . Sorry SOB .
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I just made 15% in five days on one of these supposed "boring" stocks. I'm not talking about sticking your money in Wal-mart for the next 30 years. I'm talking about researching stocks that might actually do something, and making some good plays.
Hey , a profit is a profit . Congrats to you !!!
I'm in a lot of little BS pennies right now but one thats a 90% guaranteed play is ATSI . Buy at $2.00 or lower and run it up to about $2.75 .
Now back to CSHD ...... Posted by St. Matthew on :
Yes...we got it...we have control of the situation...find another parked car to chase.
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: thesource-
I've heard similar stories. That's why I've poked my nose in here every once in awhile trying to talk sense into people.
Thanks for coming to save us guys, you can go back to your threads now!!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
James our Shareholder chairman sounds young and inexperienced in the ways of the legal world.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
It's interesting that there's still "true believers" that insist on going down with the ship, and attacking people who try to save others from the sinking ship.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
St.Matthew i think he is just a martyr!!!!!! Posted by 3403 on :
Kevin, many of us have a basis in this stock that keeps us from selling for pennies so our only hope is that all Rufus says is true. .30 cents a share isn't worth anything to me since I am in it for much more then that.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: It's interesting that there's still "true believers" that insist on going down with the ship, and attacking people who try to save others from the sinking ship.
Its interesting there are still people bashing this when we are on the greys and are meant to be down and out??!! Posted by Jenna on :
Really for the people who are saying "Told you so..." please have some respect and class - thank you -
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
Take it easy little badger , thats no way for a saint to talk .
Posted by mnvestor on :
Lawyer on subpenny now
Posted by djg7 on :
Kevin, it seems your intentions are sincere but at this time it may be too late to bail out which explains why we are holding at this time. Do you really think we are going to sell for .10 tomorrow? I think not. That is why it is still worth the risk.
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I don't get "worked up." I simply try to encourage people to cut their losses and invest in a stock that's not a piece of $h!t.
let me know which one is your next stockpick
ADST WASN'T TOO BAD
Posted by Jenna on :
There is a lawyer from HSM on Subpenny radio...Named Bull Runner or something...he's saying this thing happens all the time...& it's not a big deal they just need to file a response...
Posted by 3403 on :
bullrunner is an idiot
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I just made 15% in five days on one of these supposed "boring" stocks. I'm not talking about sticking your money in Wal-mart for the next 30 years. I'm talking about researching stocks that might actually do something, and making some good plays.
Hey , a profit is a profit . Congrats to you !!!
I'm in a lot of little BS pennies right now but one thats a 90% guaranteed play is ATSI . Buy at $2.00 or lower and run it up to about $2.75 .
Now back to CSHD ......
Actually, people who really make money in momentum plays rarely play the lotto stocks (the OTCBB, pinks, and greys). Rather, they master the technicals, and make a lot of 5%, 10%, 15%, etc. short-term plays. That's what I'm trying to do. My goal is to make one 20-day momentum play per month, or three 5-day momentum plays per month. If I can average 10-15% on the 20-days, and 7-10% on the 5-days, I'll be VERY happy.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Really for the people who are saying "Told you so..." please have some respect and class - thank you -
The funny thing is Jenna, they have nothing to tell 'told you so' for!!!!! Posted by 3403 on :
bullrunner is making a fool out of himself
Posted by 10of13 on :
Really? LMAO...ya think? Sorry Jenna...i am joking but reading that made me laugh...and then read your siggy...LOL
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: There is a lawyer from HSM on Subpenny radio...Named Bull Runner or something...he's saying this thing happens all the time...& it's not a big deal they just need to file a response...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Really for the people who are saying "Told you so..." please have some respect and class - thank you -
Respect is earned not given ........ no one on here wants to hear the truth only these fairy tales of cobras and billions in bonds from Rufus .
I have seen no one give respect to anyone with negative repsonces so why should those same people give respect in return ?
IMO , if you are investor , you have paid more than your fair share in this to post your opinions , good or bad .
Posted by 3403 on :
Bullrunner on SPR is laughable
Posted by Jenna on :
True - Fhalyesss-
This lawyer on SPR is saying people are getting worked up & they don't even really know what they're talking about....
JJ Seabrook sounds a lot like Tim Miles!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
How so? I'm listening to him and seem sounds compentent to me. I just don't think he's been listening to SPR and was a bit behind the conversation.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: bullrunner is making a fool out of himself
Posted by glassman on :
source? and kevin?
answer me this?
if Rufus is a con man and has been doing the pumpandump? why doesn't he hire an attorney with all that cashola? so he could KEEP running the scam as long as possible?
i still have a lotta questions to ask here, and i'm gonna ask them..
IMO? you guys aren't asking any of the right questions at all...
this stock has reently been halted? and the SEC is preparing a lawsuit..
all of this has been posted here for all to read...
nobody is "hiding anything" ... LOL
and you guys STILL think people need to be WARNED?
actually? i wonder who the real dummy is in this scenario?
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Bullrunner on SPR is laughable
what are you talking about?? Apparently you do not understand what he is saying??
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: How so? I'm listening to him and seem sounds compentent to me. I just don't think he's been listening to SPR and was a bit behind the conversation.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: bullrunner is making a fool out of himself
He argues with JJ and he is in agreement with him.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Really? LMAO...ya think? Sorry Jenna...i am joking but reading that made me laugh...and then read your siggy...LOL
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: There is a lawyer from HSM on Subpenny radio...Named Bull Runner or something...he's saying this thing happens all the time...& it's not a big deal they just need to file a response...
Sorry- not up on law but I can run circles around people if this had to do with the medical field...
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Bullrunner on SPR is laughable
what are you talking about?? Apparently you do not understand what he is saying??
is 3403 jjseabrooks? He is posting exactly the same way jjseabrooks did the last time rufus was on paltalk. "Like watching a monkey trying to hump a football"
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
glassman-
Why waste money on a lawyer, when the jigs already up?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Didn't Rufus say that he wanted a "bulldog" for a lawyer? Somehow I pictured it a little different...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: source? and kevin?
answer me this?
if Rufus is a con man and has been doing the pumpandump? why doesn't he hire an attorney with all that cashola? so he could KEEP running the scam as long as possible?
i still have a lotta questions to ask here, and i'm gonna ask them..
IMO? you guys aren't asking any of the right questions at all...
this stock has reently been halted? and the SEC is preparing a lawsuit..
all of this has been posted here for all to read...
nobody is "hiding anything" ... LOL
and you guys STILL think people need to be WARNED?
actually? i wonder who the real dummy is in this scanario?
Rufus is broke ..... CSHD is broke as well . Why Rufus continues with his games ? I have no idea .
What I do know is this company is full of liars . They have not been honest on anything related to this so far . They continue to try and spin it like its all playing into their hands . Its all a part of the plans to burn shorty .
Kind of reminds me of when the T.V guy in Iraq was saying the American troops were losing and Iraq would be victorious . About the same time CNN showed live footage of US troops about 1/2 mile from the airport where the show was being broadcasted .
Tomorrow is going to be the ugliest day to date . I'm going to ride this into the ground just incase there is some kind of class action filed against them . It should be entertaining to say the least .
Posted by 3403 on :
All I am saying is Bullrunner is arguing with JJ, and saying the exact same thing as JJ. Now what sense does that make.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
Didn't Rufus say that he wanted a "bulldog" for a lawyer? Somehow I pictured it a little different...
hahahahaha LOL, thats cute...
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Will the bashers stop doing a victory dance for a minute and realize that this is a FRIGGEN MOTION!!!!!!
It's not a judgement and I doubt the court clerk will enter it without conferring with the judge.
You're all too anxious to see this end poorly.
Take a deep breath and see how the court responds to the SEC's REQUEST.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Bullrunner on SPR is laughable
In the famous words of Loyd Christmas, "you are one pathetic LOSER".
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: How so? I'm listening to him and seem sounds compentent to me. I just don't think he's been listening to SPR and was a bit behind the conversation.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: bullrunner is making a fool out of himself
He argues with JJ and he is in agreement with him.
That's because when JJ sees he doesn't have a leg to stand on he offers a conciliatory message to save face, and then tries to change the focus of the argument.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
Why waste money on a lawyer, when the jigs already up?
the most obvious reason? if he's guilty? he needs a lawyer...
i also think that if Rufufs was running a scam? he could have put the SEC off for along time before they halted him... he didn't...
i want to know why, and i'm going to follow this till i find out...
the SEC said he just ignored them...
i don't see anybody here pumping this stock.. but for you to come in and say people need to shut up and move on? that is UNAmerican Kevin..
i know that you are not a "basher" OK?
i also know that alot of other people here now don't have a clue that you were one of the very first people to call CMKX the scam it was....
everybody? i vouch for Kevin... source? i don't know you from adam...
everybody knows this play is radioactive...
heck, there's no bid and ask..
nobody is getting "duped" into buying this...
you aren't "protecting" anyone.. all you are doing is harrassing them...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Will the bashers stop doing a victory dance for a minute and realize that this is a FRIGGEN MOTION!!!!!!
It's not a judgement and I doubt the court clerk will enter it without conferring with the judge.
You're all too anxious to see this end poorly.
Take a deep breath and see how the court responds to the SEC's REQUEST.
Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire .
Posted by 3403 on :
JJ says Rufus is reckless for not hiring an attorney for the company. Doesn't everyone agree with that?
Posted by 3403 on :
It is time to quit making excuses for Rufus, and hold his feet to the fire. He owes us that.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by 3403 on :
Simon, it isn't the system it's YOU>>>>
Posted by bigstocks on :
One night everyones happy Rufus is back, now they want him in the fire.
Posted by 3403 on :
10of13 are you listening to SPR?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire . [/QB][/QUOTE]
So you're comparing it to traffic court. OK.
Signing the injunction meant nothing, right?
Put down the champagne until you hear the judge's ruling, and stop telling everyone you know how the court will rule.
So
Posted by St. Matthew on :
You have no idea how much of a badger I can be...also, I only have to be a saint to those who are worthy it. You seem to be having fun at our expense. That makes you unworthy. How does it feel? I guess you don't care as long as you get paid.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
Take it easy little badger , thats no way for a saint to talk .
Posted by St. Matthew on :
10...go ahead and get it out
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
Posted by 10of13 on :
You guys can argue with each other... There was a motion filed and now we will have to see what the Judge decides...at this point there is NO RULING! The SEC was asking for many things when they filed their original motion and they got squat...maybe this time will be the same...maybe it won't... The fact that there was no "written" date on any of the other court motions or filings AND? the fact that Rufus and CSHD filed the consent? Seems it was answered and the motion may be dismissed... OR? perhaps it will speed up the process...
In the mean time...have fun attacking each other...
Night night all! Sleep well! And? God's speed! Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
glassman-
I'm not "harrassing" anyone. All I'm saying is that if people will sell this thing NOW, before it gets down to .0001 like CMKX, they will still have at least a PORTION of their capital to use on other, legitimate plays. If they simply hold until the bitter end, they'll simply lose everything. For example:
Person A invests $10K when this stock was at $2, buying a total of 5000 shares. If they sell now, and even get $0.20 for the same shares, at least they'd still have $1K of their capital left. If they hold to the bitter end--and I think we ALL know it's going to be a VERY bitter end--they'll have 5000 shares of nothing.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
The SEC is trying to slip one by. Remember that this is a MOTION ONLY.
Posted by 10of13 on :
No...seems nothing to listen to... only more speculation and arguing over matters that no one truly understands... i have kids...so i can listen to that when ever I want...LOL
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13 are you listening to SPR?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: One night everyones happy Rufus is back, now they want him in the fire.
just the ones that want the shares a bit cheaper.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire .
So you're comparing it to traffic court. OK.
Signing the injunction meant nothing, right?
Put down the champagne until you hear the judge's ruling, and stop telling everyone you know how the court will rule.
So [/QB][/QUOTE]
Hey, genius! If CSHD doesn't show up, they lose automatically. There's no mystery to what the judge will rule. It's a by-the-book finding of guilt.
Posted by bigstocks on :
KB theres your mistake. You never risk your capital in any stock. JMHO
Posted by 3403 on :
Maybe Rufus is a psych major and this is all an experiment to see how swiftly everyones emotions can change from hour to hour or day to day? LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
Matt? It's not polite to pass gas in public...
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: 10...go ahead and get it out
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You have no idea how much of a badger I can be...also, I only have to be a saint to those who are worthy it. You seem to be having fun at our expense. That makes you unworthy. How does it feel? I guess you don't care as long as you get paid.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
Take it easy little badger , thats no way for a saint to talk .
Get paid ??? Are you going to send me a check or something ??? Let me guess you think I work for shorty huh ??? Give it up already ...... remember you did you DD and even met Rufus in person . You knew he was an honest man and if I remember correctly , thats what you do for a living or something along those lines .
Rufus is a liar and a con man . He even convinced you , the problem is you can't admit to it . Denial is the 1st stage .......
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: KB theres your mistake. You never risk your capital in any stock. JMHO
Don't know what you're talking about. I'm a relatively active trader. I've simply sworn off the OTCBB and Pinks stuff.
Posted by glassman on :
watch this Kevin:
source?
you said earlier today that you still have shares right?
when are you going to sell them?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire .
So you're comparing it to traffic court. OK.
Signing the injunction meant nothing, right?
Put down the champagne until you hear the judge's ruling, and stop telling everyone you know how the court will rule.
So [/QB][/QUOTE]
You shall see tomorrow . The Judge will grant it plain and simple . Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I'm not "harrassing" anyone. All I'm saying is that if people will sell this thing NOW, before it gets down to .0001 like CMKX, they will still have at least a PORTION of their capital to use on other, legitimate plays. If they simply hold until the bitter end, they'll simply lose everything. For example:
Person A invests $10K when this stock was at $2, buying a total of 5000 shares. If they sell now, and even get $0.20 for the same shares, at least they'd still have $1K of their capital left. If they hold to the bitter end--and I think we ALL know it's going to be a VERY bitter end--they'll have 5000 shares of nothing.
So, what is it that you are pumping today? Is there still time for me to get in on the bottom floor?
Seriously, Kev....you made your point and people are comfortable with the decisions they have made. Why do you insist on forcing your opinion on them? And, to make it worse, you decided to perform simple math for the obviously ignorant investors here.
Most of us have spent months DDing this company Kev. Please dont try to come in here over the course of 2 or 3 days and try to sway people that dont quite understand the court business.
Im headed off to bed now but go read Repomans rules for investing. If you get around to it, let me know how you best fit into rule 11.
Gnight folks. Posted by 3403 on :
We can bring up questions pro or con without being nasty. Loose your temper loose the arguement.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You have no idea how much of a badger I can be...also, I only have to be a saint to those who are worthy it. You seem to be having fun at our expense. That makes you unworthy. How does it feel? I guess you don't care as long as you get paid.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
Take it easy little badger , thats no way for a saint to talk .
Get paid ??? Are you going to send me a check or something ??? Let me guess you think I work for shorty huh ??? Give it up already ...... remember you did you DD and even met Rufus in person . You knew he was an honest man and if I remember correctly , thats what you do for a living or something along those lines .
Rufus is a liar and a con man . He even convinced you , the problem is you can't admit to it . Denial is the 1st stage .......
These penny stock conmen THRIVE on people who think that "doing due diligence" means calling and talking to them on the phone. They're expert, slick con artists! They ENJOY fooling gullible people, for pete's sake!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: watch this Kevin:
source?
you said earlier today that you still have shares right?
when are you going to sell them?
Watch this Kevin :
Glassman - Yes I have shares (3300 to be exact) and if you read a few post back , I said I am holding them incase a class action is filed . It might be entertaining .
Posted by bigstocks on :
KB rule number 1 never invest/trade money you cant afford to lose.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Fudd's first law of opposition -- if you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: oh please...I'm about to drive out to Fort Worthless and kick your %&^$!!!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I'm not "harrassing" anyone. All I'm saying is that if people will sell this thing NOW, before it gets down to .0001 like CMKX, they will still have at least a PORTION of their capital to use on other, legitimate plays. If they simply hold until the bitter end, they'll simply lose everything. For example:
Person A invests $10K when this stock was at $2, buying a total of 5000 shares. If they sell now, and even get $0.20 for the same shares, at least they'd still have $1K of their capital left. If they hold to the bitter end--and I think we ALL know it's going to be a VERY bitter end--they'll have 5000 shares of nothing.
Now THAT gets post of the day! And with only 50 minutes to spare. Nice one St Matt. Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: oh please...I'm about to drive out to Fort Worthless and kick your %&^$!!!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I'm not "harrassing" anyone. All I'm saying is that if people will sell this thing NOW, before it gets down to .0001 like CMKX, they will still have at least a PORTION of their capital to use on other, legitimate plays. If they simply hold until the bitter end, they'll simply lose everything. For example:
Person A invests $10K when this stock was at $2, buying a total of 5000 shares. If they sell now, and even get $0.20 for the same shares, at least they'd still have $1K of their capital left. If they hold to the bitter end--and I think we ALL know it's going to be a VERY bitter end--they'll have 5000 shares of nothing.
Uh oh , now you've pissed the badger off . Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: watch this Kevin:
source?
you said earlier today that you still have shares right?
when are you going to sell them?
Watch this Kevin :
Glassman - Yes I have shares (3300 to be exact) and if you read a few post back , I said I am holding them incase a class action is filed . It might be entertaining .
me too source, i traded out for free shares along time ago... during the last short squeese.
Kevin doesn't want us to keep them at all..
the funny part is we are stupid to hold this right? of course we are.. we are just plain fools and everybody and their brother (who is a genius) is laughing at us... the funny part? they think we care what they think...
Posted by wv1973 on :
My mountaineers kicked pitt's arse tonight. both white and slaton had over 200 yards rushing.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
You're quite a prize. What are you going to "kick my percentage ampersand tilde dollar sign exclamation mark exclamation mark exclamation mark" for? Telling the truth? Point to anything I've said that's false.
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: oh please...I'm about to drive out to Fort Worthless and kick your %&^$!!!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: glassman-
I'm not "harrassing" anyone. All I'm saying is that if people will sell this thing NOW, before it gets down to .0001 like CMKX, they will still have at least a PORTION of their capital to use on other, legitimate plays. If they simply hold until the bitter end, they'll simply lose everything. For example:
Person A invests $10K when this stock was at $2, buying a total of 5000 shares. If they sell now, and even get $0.20 for the same shares, at least they'd still have $1K of their capital left. If they hold to the bitter end--and I think we ALL know it's going to be a VERY bitter end--they'll have 5000 shares of nothing.
Posted by dollar13 on :
LOL
at what time is the next fight Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire . [/QB]
There is so much misinformation here, so much negativity. Please take a moment and see that the recent turn of events is just another step in the resolution.
There are a few people who seem to not be capable of a rational or positive outlook. These are the people that are either in very deep due to poor timing, poor research or a poor choice in profession. No matter what your opinion they are simply players in the game, not experts, not fortune tellers, simply people who use the power of the public forum to further their position. At this point, I will dismiss anyone who purports to be able to speak on behalf of CSHD, the judicial system or the SEC. We are each spectators to the events unfolding before us. No one can credibly speak with any certainty as to where we will be tomorrow.
Do not let every little piece of information or every little post affect you, for the better or the worse. If you are still here then you either did your DD and are comfortable in your position or you are simply stuck at a loss and should be hoping for the best. That leaves anyone spewing negativity as a diversion to the real reason we are all here and someone to be suspected of having motives outside of this stock, whether that be sinister, ignorant or simply pathetic.
Let's make a pledge to begin now what we have been charged with if this all works out; let's make a difference. Be true to your own credo, whatever it may be.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by wv1973 on :
This must be part of Rufus' plan. Get the stock to tank to sub-penny level so we can all load up again for a run. You know he's very knowledgeable about these things, so that must be it -- that's his plan.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Hey Sourse and Kev...can you help me with my football picks this weekend?
I mean, since you have such insight on futute events and all......
Posted by bigstocks on :
Kb Person A should not have invested $10,000 if they couldnt afford to lose. Your e alittle late on your good samaritan role.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: watch this Kevin:
source?
you said earlier today that you still have shares right?
when are you going to sell them?
Watch this Kevin :
Glassman - Yes I have shares (3300 to be exact) and if you read a few post back , I said I am holding them incase a class action is filed . It might be entertaining .
me too source, i traded out for free shares along time ago... during the last short squeese.
Kevin doesn't want us to keep them at all..
the funny part is we are stupid to hold this right? of course we are.. we are just plain fools and everybody and their brother (who is a genius) is laughing at us... the funny part? they think we care what they think...
If you're in free shares, more power to you. If it were me, I'd still sell, and get what I could before this stock's inevitable plunge to .0001, but like I said, if you're in free shares, by all means, have fun. Unfortunately, many people AREN'T in free shares. They have significant sums sunk into this pit, and it would be better to extract what little capital might be able to be had than to simply sit and watch it drop to .0001.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: watch this Kevin:
source?
you said earlier today that you still have shares right?
when are you going to sell them?
Watch this Kevin :
Glassman - Yes I have shares (3300 to be exact) and if you read a few post back , I said I am holding them incase a class action is filed . It might be entertaining .
me too source, i traded out for free shares along time ago... during the last short squeese.
Kevin doesn't want us to keep them at all..
the funny part is we are stupid to hold this right? of course we are.. we are just plain fools and everybody and their brother (who is a genius) is laughing at us... the funny part? they think we care what they think...
Well mine aren't free and yes I'm stupid for holding them but believe it or not , I've done stupider $hit so WTF ......... Rufus is a Dufus and I'm a moron for not selling this crap weeks ago . Lesson learned and it won't happen again , not in this stock anyways .
Posted by 3403 on :
StMatt how did you get five stars? Use your intelect to battle.
Posted by bigstocks on :
So we should listen to the stupid?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Hey Sourse and Kev...can you help me with my football picks this weekend?
I mean, since you have such insight on futute events and all......
Yeah sure ....... bet all your money of Indy kicking Dallas's A$$ all the way down here to San Antonio .
Posted by wv1973 on :
Maybe we need to plan a rodeo to discuss our next move and strategy
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Hey Sourse and Kev...can you help me with my football picks this weekend?
I mean, since you have such insight on futute events and all......
Yeah sure ....... bet all your money of Indy kicking Dallas's A$$ all the way down here to San Antonio .
OMG I totally agree with you! LOL! Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Bashers should be ignored imo.They serve no purpose except to stir the pot.There are a lot of great people on this board, have been on here for far longer than most of the negitive posters.If you don't have any new dd, please let us be. Thank you
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Hey Sourse and Kev...can you help me with my football picks this weekend?
I mean, since you have such insight on futute events and all......
Gotta love the deflectors. Can't deal with the substance of an argument, so they simply deflect attention from it. For the record, if you all would have bailed on this stock a week ago, and reinvested that capital in the stock I brought to the board (ADST), you could have ridden that pony from 1.49 to 1.80 in five days.
(Note to self: RushDaBus isn't a big fan of mine.)
Posted by wv1973 on :
Or how about a sleepover on the ranch. Then Cookie can fix us a real western breakfast with coffee brewed over on open flame. Does anyone know Chavez? Maybe we could invite him to verify the bonds.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: Hey Sourse and Kev...can you help me with my football picks this weekend?
I mean, since you have such insight on futute events and all......
Gotta love the deflectors. Can't deal with the substance of an argument, so they simply deflect attention from it. For the record, if you all would have bailed on this stock a week ago, and reinvested that capital in the stock I brought to the board (ADST), you could have ridden that pony from 1.49 to 1.80 in five days.
(Note to self: RushDaBus isn't a big fan of mine.)
Holy crap! You've got huge balls to be so presumptive as to know how a court will rule on a motion! Where's the substance in that?
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: So we should listen to the stupid?
nooooooo
listen to your self Posted by bigstocks on :
Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point?
He has no point, that's part of his charm. Posted by 3403 on :
Why isn't Rufus on SPR now? He must know what's going on.
Posted by wv1973 on :
I'm back in the saddle again.
Out where an Indian's your friend.
Where the vegetables are green
and you can pee right into the stream
and that's important
Posted by Jenna on :
Humble -thank you for your post - Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: If you're in free shares, more power to you. If it were me, I'd still sell, and get what I could before this stock's inevitable plunge to .0001, but like I said, if you're in free shares, by all means, have fun. Unfortunately, many people AREN'T in free shares. They have significant sums sunk into this pit, and it would be better to extract what little capital might be able to be had than to simply sit and watch it drop to .0001. [/QB]
how could they possibly not be in free shares Kevin? i told everybody to sell for free shares when it was over three.. Posted by 3403 on :
JJ is cool and calm on SPR and Bullrunner is going bananas.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
NOTICE:
JJSeabrook will be on WebMD speaking about open heart surgery. Why? The lard ass had open heart surgery once and now he believes himself to be a surgeon.
Posted by Jenna on :
Right Glass, cause we do everything people on here say to do we're the "Cult" remember....What shall we do tomorrow Glass?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point?
You don't average over 20% a day. If you did, you could take a stake of $100, and turn it into $1million in 52 days. The key to making consistent profits in momentum plays is to be consistent, and to follow a disciplined system. You can downplay a 5-day 20%+ move all you want, it's solid, and there's lots of those out there to be had.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Tell me a couple of things (with verifiable facts) and I will sell. What does Rufus have to gain from this? What does anyone (other than the shorts) have to gain from this?
If you are not working for them, why are you two traveling in packs like hyenas trying to "save" us? You show up at the same time and you usually leave at the same time. Your posts have been more aggressive and more obnoxious over the last few days. In the real world, with the price of the stock falling by about 5 cents per day, a sane person would have said..."hate to say I told you so, but I told you so" and walked away. Why would you care if we lost all our money? Why would you continue to post here with nothing to gain or lose? This is what you guys don't get...we are on to you. If you really wanted to save us, you would stop pissing us off and rubbing salt in our (temporary wounds). I told you before; this board is filled with people of above average IQ. This is the best board out there with doctors, lawyer, engineers, nurses, CEOs, etc. We know how to do our DD, meet people, talk to people, and judge people to be with or without character.
Put it this way…and I think this board would agree…if this is a scam and Rufus does not have what he says he has; then he would have to be considered the serial killer of the investment world. I’m not saying it’s not possible…just saying I can’t see it. I have met the man, looked in his eye and I shook his hand. I would be blown away if CSHD was not what Rufus claims it to be…I might be wrong…but I don’t think so. I will sleep well tonight because of it. How will you sleep tonight? Oh yes, you won’t sleep because you will be out here trying to “save” us. Give me a break!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You have no idea how much of a badger I can be...also, I only have to be a saint to those who are worthy it. You seem to be having fun at our expense. That makes you unworthy. How does it feel? I guess you don't care as long as you get paid.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Go away loser...you obviously have an agenda that is paid for by the shorts or the mafia, or someone else. If not, you need to get a life.
Take it easy little badger , thats no way for a saint to talk .
Get paid ??? Are you going to send me a check or something ??? Let me guess you think I work for shorty huh ??? Give it up already ...... remember you did you DD and even met Rufus in person . You knew he was an honest man and if I remember correctly , thats what you do for a living or something along those lines .
Rufus is a liar and a con man . He even convinced you , the problem is you can't admit to it . Denial is the 1st stage .......
These penny stock conmen THRIVE on people who think that "doing due diligence" means calling and talking to them on the phone. They're expert, slick con artists! They ENJOY fooling gullible people, for pete's sake!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Right Glass, cause we do everything people on here say to do we're the "Cult" remember....What shall we do tomorrow Glass?
If theres alot to be had, why do you hang around the CSHD thread?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus:
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point?
He has no point, that's part of his charm.
I've made several points. You simply seem to be too unintelligent to grasp them.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'
Keep movin', movin', movin', Though they're disapprovin', Keep them doggies movin' Rawhide! Don't try to understand 'em, Just rope and throw and grab 'em, Soon we'll be living high and wide. Boy my heart's calculatin' My true love will be waitin', be waiting at the end of my ride.
Move 'em on, head 'em up, Head 'em up, move 'em out, Move 'em on, head 'em out Rawhide! Set 'em out, ride 'em in Ride 'em in, let 'em out, Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Rawhide.
Rollin', rollin', rollin' Though the streams are swollen Keep them dogies rollin' Rawhide! Rain and wind and weather Hell-bent for leather Wishin' my gal was by my side. All the things I'm missin', Good vittles, love, and kissin', Are waiting at the end of my ride
CHORUS Move 'em on, head 'em up Head 'em up, move 'em on Move 'em on, head 'em up Rawhide Count 'em out, ride 'em in, Ride 'em in, count 'em out, Count 'em out, ride 'em in Rawhide!
Keep movin', movin', movin' Though they're disapprovin' Keep them dogies movin' Rawhide! Don't try to understand 'em Just rope, throw, and brand 'em Soon we'll be living high and wide. My hearts calculatin' My true love will be waitin', Be waitin' at the end of my ride.
Rawhide! Rawhide!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Maybe we need to plan a rodeo to discuss our next move and strategy
I was thinking of something like that as well ..... LMAO !!! Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus:
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point?
He has no point, that's part of his charm.
I've made several points. You simply seem to be too unintelligent to grasp them.
see? that is harrassing Kevy...
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanks Glass- WE WAIT!!! Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: If theres alot to be had, why do you hang around the CSHD thread?
I don't. I post here every once in awhile, and when I do, I stick around for a couple hours.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Let's hold a seance or break out a ouija board
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Right Glass, cause we do everything people on here say to do we're the "Cult" remember....What shall we do tomorrow Glass?
jenna make your own decison
GLASS cant give you that answer.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Great post St. Matt. Its very easy to provide links if insiders are selling. Thats the first sign of a scam. JMHO
Posted by bigstocks on :
Seems like the bashers are good at posting pics.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
Incase you are not aware of this , the Judge will find for the SEC in a default judgement since CSHD was a no show . Its like not showing up for a ticket , the state or county automatically wins and you have waived your rights for a trial or even to enter a plea . You can either pay up or go to jail .
This is why Black said she was working on a civil suit . They got the default judgement in this case and can now use it to sue CSHD and Rufus for whatever it is they want out of this . Rufus is screwed either way because he can no longer serve on a BOD , but that was in the plans anyways since he wanted to retire .
There is so much misinformation here, so much negativity. Please take a moment and see that the recent turn of events is just another step in the resolution.
There are a few people who seem to not be capable of a rational or positive outlook. These are the people that are either in very deep due to poor timing, poor research or a poor choice in profession. No matter what your opinion they are simply players in the game, not experts, not fortune tellers, simply people who use the power of the public forum to further their position. At this point, I will dismiss anyone who purports to be able to speak on behalf of CSHD, the judicial system or the SEC. We are each spectators to the events unfolding before us. No one can credibly speak with any certainty as to where we will be tomorrow.
Do not let every little piece of information or every little post affect you, for the better or the worse. If you are still here then you either did your DD and are comfortable in your position or you are simply stuck at a loss and should be hoping for the best. That leaves anyone spewing negativity as a diversion to the real reason we are all here and someone to be suspected of having motives outside of this stock, whether that be sinister, ignorant or simply pathetic.
Let's make a pledge to begin now what we have been charged with if this all works out; let's make a difference. Be true to your own credo, whatever it may be.
... In My humble Opinion [/QB]
post of the night.
Another step in the resolution!
This might just get us off the greys in an expiditious manner.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: If theres alot to be had, why do you hang around the CSHD thread?
I don't. I post here every once in awhile, and when I do, I stick around for a couple hours.
Well what interest to you is this thread? What purpose do your posts have? Entertain us? Warn us? Save us?
Simple question.. why do you come to cshd.
Posted by 3403 on :
STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
Posted by Jenna on :
I tell you what I don't understand - I hear another certain stock right now (NOT CSHD) a different one, is a scam....I have NOT gone to that thread to "save" anyone- it's their choice...they have to live with it....it's their money.....& I don't have time to be saving people nor do I have any interest in it- I'll save all my "saving" techniques for my nursing career....
I don't understand some people's agendas.....
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Great post St. Matt. Its very easy to provide links if insiders are selling. Thats the first sign of a scam. JMHO
That doesn't prove anything. He could have shares in overseas accounts that he's dumping. He could have friends selling. There are any number of ways that he could secretly benefit from this. I'm not saying that's what's going on, but it is possible for there to be a dump that we can't find.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Right Glass, cause we do everything people on here say to do we're the "Cult" remember....What shall we do tomorrow Glass?
jenna make your own decison
GLASS cant give you that answere.
DOLLAR- you do know I was kidding right?
Posted by wv1973 on :
Yes, St Matthew my brother, my apostle and Adam couldn't see the apple for what it was because he was concentrating on Eve's hot bod and thinking with the wrong head.
Posted by bigstocks on :
PP then they should state its purely speculation.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: If theres alot to be had, why do you hang around the CSHD thread?
I don't. I post here every once in awhile, and when I do, I stick around for a couple hours.
Times up!!!
Posted by dollar13 on :
nite all ...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good nite dollar
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
"What does Rufus have to gain from this?"
Money, having his friends sell all the way up.
"What does anyone (other than the shorts) have to gain from this?"
I love how every time a PoS stock plummets, the "shorts" are blamed like they're the devil or something. People probably "flipped" this stock all over the place. There was TONS of money to be made from manipulating this stock.
"If you are not working for them, why are you two traveling in packs like hyenas trying to "save" us? You show up at the same time and you usually leave at the same time."
So now I'm working for the evil shorters, right? Because no one could look at this stock and see that it's a loser, right? You're amazing in your denial.
"Your posts have been more aggressive and more obnoxious over the last few days."
Not at all. When attacked, I bite back. But I've never called someone names or anything like that, unless they bashed me first. I've been blunt, but not mean.
As for your other points, smart people get duped ALL the time--even smart people. And when smart people get duped, they tend to get emotional, and try to "prove" that they didn't REALLY get duped. This seems to be the case in your situation.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
Posted by wv1973 on :
Some trails are happy ones, Others are blue. It's the way you ride the trail that counts, Here's a happy one for you.
Happy trails to you, Until we meet again. Happy trails to you, Keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we'ere together? Just sing a song, and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, Til we meet again.
Posted by Bittermac on :
Source? You have so much anger and bitter disdain for those around you, it is more than a little shocking. I agree with the PM I got a while ago, along with all the names on it, that you are being paid to bash. You should be ashamed. You are a liar and, in your own way, a con man yourself. Go away, coward.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Right Glass, cause we do everything people on here say to do we're the "Cult" remember....What shall we do tomorrow Glass?
jenna make your own decison
GLASS cant give you that answere.
DOLLAR- you do know I was kidding right?
of course he did...
right dollar? doollllaarrr? Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
I have read over and over again that Rufus does not have a lawyer. Do we know this for a fact? No.Let's wait and see.I know it's getting old saying that, but we are in or out.The in's are in and the outs should be out of this thread.IMO
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
Posted by bigstocks on :
PP: That doesn't prove anything. He could have shares in overseas accounts that he's dumping. He could have friends selling. There are any number of ways that he could secretly benefit from this. I'm not saying that's what's going on, but it is possible for there to be a dump that we can't find.
If insiders sell they have to report it period. JMHO
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Glassman-
Empty your PM box. Tried to respond, but it's full.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
Posted by wv1973 on :
Well, we have resorted to mafia, liar, coward and a half dozen more I can't remember. Anyone for breaking Godwin's Rule about now. Come on let's hear it.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
Jenna, how funny! By the time I sent my reply in ,there's your's saying same thing. I am a slow typer. haha
Posted by 3403 on :
I think the negative remarks about this company makes us think, and shouldn't be asked to leave. The real shame is the company through it's own actions has opened itself up to these remarks.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
I did not hear that, I'm not at all implying that you are lying -I did not hear the entire interview the other night.....but I believe he said he didn't know if "the company" had a lawyer remember he was separated from the company for a few weeks....but to be fair I did not hear the whole interview....
Posted by Jenna on :
You're the best Stock Momma!!!
Posted by wv1973 on :
Next time your found, with your chin on the ground There a lot to be learned, so look around
Just what makes that little old ant Think hell move that rubber tree plant Anyone knows an ant, cant Move a rubber tree plant
But hes got high hopes, hes got high hopes Hes got high apple pie, in the sky hopes
So any time your gettin low stead of lettin go Just remember that ant Oops there goes another rubber tree plant
When troubles call, and your backs to the wall There a lot to be learned, that wall could fall
Once there was a silly old ram Thought hed punch a hole in a dam No one could make that ram, scram He kept buttin that dam
cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes
So any time your feelin bad stead of feelin sad Just remember that ram Oops there goes a billion kilowatt dam
All problems just a toy balloon Theyll be bursted soon Theyre just bound to go pop Oops there goes another problem kerplop
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: PP: That doesn't prove anything. He could have shares in overseas accounts that he's dumping. He could have friends selling. There are any number of ways that he could secretly benefit from this. I'm not saying that's what's going on, but it is possible for there to be a dump that we can't find.
If insiders sell they have to report it period. JMHO
They also have to have assets before they can claim them. In a scam, the law doesn't matter period.
Just playing devil's advocate here; until the SEC has some evidence of fraud, there is no fraud.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I think the negative remarks about this company makes us think, and shouldn't be asked to leave. The real shame is the company through it's own actions has opened itself up to these remarks.
True, but no need to be rude-
Posted by Bittermac on :
Don't get high and mighty, WV. Why is it when a basher comes in, insults all around, lies about a lot of things and someone points it out, the only people that get uppity are the same silly bunch that "Just happened" to show up at the same time he did. Go away. You morons accuse other of much worse daily.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
I did not hear that, I'm not at all implying that you are lying -I did not hear the entire interview the other night.....but I believe he said he didn't know if "the company" had a lawyer remember he was separated from the company for a few weeks....but to be fair I did not hear the whole interview....
Jenna, Rufus was never seperated from the company. I don't think anyone really believe that.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I think the negative remarks about this company makes us think, and shouldn't be asked to leave. The real shame is the company through it's own actions has opened itself up to these remarks.
I'm sorry, but what more do we have to think about right now? We are all on hold. Negative remarks are not helpful at this time.3403, not to be meant to you only.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Then why did this come out right after Rufus became part of the co?
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I think the negative remarks about this company makes us think, and shouldn't be asked to leave. The real shame is the company through it's own actions has opened itself up to these remarks.
I'm sorry, but what more do we have to think about right now? We are all on hold. Negative remarks are not helpful at this time.3403, not to be meant to you only.
The same arguement could be said we are on hold so what good are the positive remarks. Right?
Posted by trade04 on :
test
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Glassman-
Empty your PM box. Tried to respond, but it's full.
i did...
Posted by bigstocks on :
You passed.
Posted by TimW on :
Through early morning green i see visions of the things to be the shares that are withheld for me i realize and i can see
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
I did not hear that, I'm not at all implying that you are lying -I did not hear the entire interview the other night.....but I believe he said he didn't know if "the company" had a lawyer remember he was separated from the company for a few weeks....but to be fair I did not hear the whole interview....
Jenna, Rufus was never seperated from the company. I don't think anyone really believe that.
So do you think in the past 2 weeks Rufus has control of if Mike retained council for the company?
Actually, this is a mute point because I think everyone agrees that they, the company & Rufus needs an attorney- whether they have one or not as of this second right now - only they know...but we all do agree that they need one....
Posted by wv1973 on :
Bittermac, I apologize if I offended you. My intention was not to be uppity. Let's just dial this down a notch or two and ignore those that you choose to ignore.
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Or how about a sleepover on the ranch. Then Cookie can fix us a real western breakfast with coffee brewed over on open flame. Does anyone know Chavez? Maybe we could invite him to verify the bonds.
Chavez Cerovo?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Im ignored all the time.
Posted by Jenna on :
What's wrong Bigstocks? Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you... What do you need?
Posted by wv1973 on :
Him too lol
Posted by bigstocks on :
Jk Jenna. Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
I did not hear that, I'm not at all implying that you are lying -I did not hear the entire interview the other night.....but I believe he said he didn't know if "the company" had a lawyer remember he was separated from the company for a few weeks....but to be fair I did not hear the whole interview....
Jenna, Rufus was never seperated from the company. I don't think anyone really believe that.
So do you think in the past 2 weeks Rufus has control of if Mike retained council for the company?
Actually, this is a mute point because I think everyone agrees that they, the company & Rufus needs an attorney- whether they have one or not as of this second right now - only they know...but we all do agree that they need one....
I think Rufus was aware of everything that went on during Mike A's short stint... TOTALLY CONVINCED..
Posted by atthebank on :
big stocks just needs his diaper changed, no biggie
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Jk Jenna.
DUH!!! Blonde moment!!!
Posted by bigstocks on :
No diaper here, maybe depends.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by atthebank: big stocks just needs his diaper changed, no biggie
He's on his own with that one!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: No diaper here, maybe depends.
"Depends" on if you make it to the bathroom or not.....
Posted by atthebank on :
yepa
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I find it extremely hilarious that someone actually thinks I work for the evil shorters ...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Think I'll make me another drink.
Posted by atthebank on :
no offense bigstocks, were all playing the same game gltya
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Kevin, why are you here? You have stated that you own no shares of cshd, so I honestly want to know why you waste your time here.
Posted by bigstocks on :
KB, then why would you want the stock to go down?
Posted by klondike on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Think I'll make me another drink.
Please make me one too. CSHD, SLJB, and AWYB/HVLN ==>> $$$ locked up!!!
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Kevin, why are you here? You have stated that you own no shares of cshd, so I honestly want to know why you waste your time here.
he's a wanna be !
Posted by JHenry on :
I just caught up on the thread for the day - sure is a lot of bashing going on. I'm going to hold my shares. Based on the facts I can't justify selling at this price but then again I can't afford to sell at this price either.
Posted by 6digits on :
KB its a long story why we do what we do and time will fail me if I try to explain. I can only say that yourself and thesource should go ahead and save yourselves, run as fast as you can and don't look back.
Posted by 3403 on :
I want Kevin here. He doesn't scare me, Rufus does.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by klondike:
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Think I'll make me another drink.
Please make me one too. CSHD, SLJB, and AWYB/HVLN ==>> $$$ locked up!!!
Ouch!! I'll make you a drink for sljb.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: STMatt, I agree I make gut decessions about people every day by looking them in the eye and shaking their hand. Usually I'm right. I just don't understand why we don't have legal representation. That is not doing us his shareholders any favors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY DO OR DO NOT!!!!!
I listened to Rufus, and he said they didn't
I did not hear that, I'm not at all implying that you are lying -I did not hear the entire interview the other night.....but I believe he said he didn't know if "the company" had a lawyer remember he was separated from the company for a few weeks....but to be fair I did not hear the whole interview....
Jenna, Rufus was never seperated from the company. I don't think anyone really believe that.
So do you think in the past 2 weeks Rufus has control of if Mike retained council for the company?
Actually, this is a mute point because I think everyone agrees that they, the company & Rufus needs an attorney- whether they have one or not as of this second right now - only they know...but we all do agree that they need one....
I think Rufus was aware of everything that went on during Mike A's short stint... TOTALLY CONVINCED..
Do not be so sure you are correct. I am not. But you are due your opinion.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
Posted by Jenna on :
I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
Posted by bigstocks on :
6digits, thats what I been trying to say all along. Please, let them save themselves and sell. If they bought at $3 or $4. and cant afford to lose it, they should have sold by now. JMHO
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I want Kevin here. He doesn't scare me, Rufus does.
You sir, are Mr. Split Personality! Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
I think the regulars, know there's really nothing to do but wait....& they are consentrating on other plays....Good Night MOMMA!!
Posted by 6digits on :
You could go and put in a sell order on the crap that you own while you are waiting.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: You could go and put in a sell order on the crap that you own while you are waiting.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
He said he doesn't even own any CSHD.....
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
Thank you Saviour! Please start watching Conan. He is alot funnier and he starts earlier.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
Then don't watch the people , if you hate it so much!
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I find it extremely hilarious that someone actually thinks I work for the evil shorters ...
It is really unimportant whether you work for shorters. There are, in my opinion, only two useful sorts of people contributing to this discussion right now, those with factual DD and an incentive to continue pursuing leads or those who are in for a loss but yet unwilling to sell and therefore should be quietly wishing for the best. All others are here for personal gain, monetary or otherwise, and are not achieving any positive goals. If that description fits then you have a decision to make.
We all know where we stand right now without the additional speculation one way or another. The vast majority of the negativity in this stock has very little basis in fact and only serves to harass legitimate investors with half-truths and outright lies. If you are going to be pessimistic, at least have the decency to bring something of note to the table or you will simply continue spinning your wheels repeating the same old baseless arguments.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
The regulars may be getting discouraged. Rightfully so....
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
No, that's a different "Kevin Bailey." I've discovered in "googling myself"--as Craig Ferguson likes to say--that my name is rather common.
Posted by 6digits on :
It does'nt have to be CSHD it could be any trash he has sitting in his account.........
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: You could go and put in a sell order on the crap that you own while you are waiting.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
He said he doesn't even own any CSHD.....
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
The regulars may be getting discouraged. Rightfully so....
Boy oh boy.ya just don't get it. Goodnight to everyone.
Posted by frank021474 on :
HOLDING LONG TILL WHATEVER HAPPENS! Lets wait and hear from the company. The source is still mad they didn't hire him as the Attorney-
Just kidding tsource Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
The regulars may be getting discouraged. Rightfully so....
No one said they were discourage!!! There is not much to do right now - there is nothing we can do but wait....
Posted by frank021474 on :
Just wanted to post and roll- time for bed. Work dinner was good but 2 many drinkys makes this schmoozer tired.
I will be looking for a company response
Posted by JHenry on :
I should be selling Playstation 3's right now - there's the play of the day - turn $600.00 into $3550.00.
************************************************* Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams!!!!!! *************************************************
Posted by glassman on :
yep, today? my elementary schooler told me we should buy two PS3's and sell one on e-bay...
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
Thank you Saviour! Please start watching Conan. He is alot funnier and he starts earlier.
While Conan is funnier than either Jay or Letterman (neither one of whom has been funny for years), he's not even close to Ferguson. Ferguson's comedy is genius.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good night, Jenna.
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by JHenry: I should be selling Playstation 3's right now - there's the play of the day - turn $600.00 into $3550.00.
I don't have any trash in my account. I've made wrong calls before, but I don't stick with them. I cut my losses, and move on to the next play. Interestingly enough, I actually manage to make money this way.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: It does'nt have to be CSHD it could be any trash he has sitting in his account.........
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: You could go and put in a sell order on the crap that you own while you are waiting.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm here because it's a free country, and I'm bored until Craig Ferguson's show comes on. That, and I hate to see people simply watch their money swirl down the drain in a PoS stock like this.
He said he doesn't even own any CSHD.....
Posted by Doniboy on :
I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
what i don't get is why someone would pay 600$ for a 200$ machine Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
Because they are too dumb to put $150 down in October to pre-order.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
what i don't get is why someone would pay 600$ for a 200$ machine
Because it goes with my 63" TV.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
If you would read the first part of my post, I asked for facts...as usual, you (and other bashers) have none...only sophomoric high school type statements. You guys never, ever, ever have facts or links to back up your statements. You just attack longs by saying things like "Because no one could look at this stock and see that it's a loser, right? You're amazing in your denial"...listen to yourself! Because you have all the answers…right?!?! You mean to tell me that you are smarter than the brilliant minds on this board. I Doubt it very seriously…especially after your last post. That's supposed to convince me and all of these bright people to sell and save our investment?!?!?
Look, nobody was selling this thing all the way up to $4.00 (fact). Sales volume was very low. Then the shorts and MM's slammed it down to $1.80 within a couple of days on very little volume. This was because they panicked. We all watched as 10 buys would come in and the stock would not go up, then 2 small sells would go through and the stock drops by 10-20 cents. This happened for 6 straight weeks. We all know that's not how it's supposed to work.
Volume dried up again (fact) and you panicked once again. Did you know that CSHD was scheduled to go to NASDAQ the day that it was halted(fact)...coincidence...I think not. The SEC could not and would not be exposed for allowing this illegal activity to go on. They would not allow AMTD to go under because they were exposed as being short big time. Why else do you think they stopped allowing customers to buy, but they sure as hell let them sell? They needed the shares...try and argue that one.
I'm going to quote you now..."There was TONS of money to be made from manipulating this stock"...so, you admit it. This stock has been manipulated for months. You are still trying to do it tonight...why else would you be here other than to helps the shorts cover?!?! Deny it all you want, but we will see….hopefully sooner than later.
Again, I quote you… “When attacked, I bite back. But I've never called someone names or anything like that” Really...you two have been on here for weeks telling us that all of the time and energy that has been done performing DD on this company is wasted because this is a “POS Company”. Gosh…why would anyone take that as an insult?
Do us all a favor…go save someone else.
Good night all.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "What does Rufus have to gain from this?"
Money, having his friends sell all the way up.
"What does anyone (other than the shorts) have to gain from this?"
I love how every time a PoS stock plummets, the "shorts" are blamed like they're the devil or something. People probably "flipped" this stock all over the place. There was TONS of money to be made from manipulating this stock.
"If you are not working for them, why are you two traveling in packs like hyenas trying to "save" us? You show up at the same time and you usually leave at the same time."
So now I'm working for the evil shorters, right? Because no one could look at this stock and see that it's a loser, right? You're amazing in your denial.
"Your posts have been more aggressive and more obnoxious over the last few days."
Not at all. When attacked, I bite back. But I've never called someone names or anything like that, unless they bashed me first. I've been blunt, but not mean.
As for your other points, smart people get duped ALL the time--even smart people. And when smart people get duped, they tend to get emotional, and try to "prove" that they didn't REALLY get duped. This seems to be the case in your situation.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Kevin is not a basher... he's just a do-gooder LOL (sorry Kevin)
I have xbox 360, and i can't believe I spent $400 on it, now they want $600 for Sony...forget it...
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
A $200 machine IMO. $400 of it is for the blu ray player. What's the point in having that now when you can't even buy more than a few movies for it? I'll get one in a couple years when they're as cheap as DVD players, and we know that it's not going to go the way of betamax.
I'll get a Nintendo for less than a third the price.
Posted by glassman on :
it runs an IBM processor... the Cell Broadband Engine.. after that? it doens't have anything you don't get on a PC...
it's only got 256 megs of ram..
Posted by Doniboy on :
I bet that if Sony charged $4000 for it they would still sell. People are idiots. I hope that Sony loses to Microsoft and goes out of business.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
"St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
How can it be a pump and dump if there is no dump?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I'm not mad...just giving facts and advice. If you take that as anger, you have issues. That's what we do on this board
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
How can it be a pump and dump if there is no dump?
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
Again, why are you here! You have no shares!
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Thank you St. Matthew!
Mnvestor, you read my mind! I was just going to ask that. Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Oh Kevin, isn't Craig on?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
We've rehashed this several times. There are two sides to every trade. Someone was selling those shares people bought on the way up to $4.
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
How can it be a pump and dump if there is no dump?
Posted by Doniboy on :
Why is it the Kevin Bailey show every time he shows up. Just ignore him and he'll go away.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Why is it the Kevin Bailey show every time he shows up. Just ignore him and he'll go away.
If only! Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Some of you remind me of those children who stick their fingers in their ears when people say things they don't want to hear, chanting "Nyah, nyah, nyah, I'm not listening!"
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
Because they are too dumb to put $150 down in October to pre-order.
as far as i know there were no pre orders for ps3..only xbox
and to penny player, if i had a billion dollars i wouldnt pay 3k either...the rich are sometimes very loose with cash..
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: "St."Matthew-
I have started no fights. I've simply posted my opinion--based on the technicals--that this stock was pumped and dumped. It's YOU that's displaying anger, not me.
Again, why are you here! You have no shares!
sounds like a concerned citizen to me
lmao...
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Some of you remind me of those children who stick their fingers in their ears when people say things they don't want to hear, chanting "Nyah, nyah, nyah, I'm not listening!"
Take a hint! Maybe if you were someone of importance to us and this company!
Posted by trade04 on :
nah nah nah nah nanana ...baby give it up GIVE IT UP baby give it up....
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I'm out for now. But I'll probably check back in. It's kind of like watching the proverbial car wreck: you know you shouldn't, but you do it anyway.
As to what "importance" I bring, all I can say is that I know how to cut a loss, when a loss has become apparent, and I understand how to recognize a stock that is a sham.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't get it. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a $600 machine???????
Because they are too dumb to put $150 down in October to pre-order.
as far as i know there were no pre orders for ps3..only xbox
and to penny player, if i had a billion dollars i wouldnt pay 3k either...the rich are sometimes very loose with cash..
You are misinformed.
Gamestop/EBgames...pre-order in October (10th if I recall correctly). Not our first pre-order foray mind you.
You are either with or without.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm out for now. But I'll probably check back in. It's kind of like watching the proverbial car wreck: you know you shouldn't, but you do it anyway.
As to what "importance" I bring, all I can say is that I know how to cut a loss, when a loss has become apparent, and I understand how to recognize a stock that is a sham.
Just for the record, I still haven't "lost" at this! Also, don't waste your time here! YOU are of NO "importance" to us! Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Doniboy, the only reason I waste my time with him is because he is the only one that responds to me at this time of night and I am bored. Posted by portman on :
I'm bored...
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Where's KB? I miss his nonsensicle ramblings....
Posted by Bittermac on :
WV, sorry, little bit of venom there, I'll tone it down.
I guess one of the most frustrating points of all this is that, When I did my due diligence and continue to feel positive about this stock dispite the current issues, I don't insult others by saying they are a moron for not buying, accusing them of breaking the law and fleeing the country. But, daily, negative bashers come here, tell everyone how dumb they are, Rufus has commited all sorts of crimes and generally be rude as it gets, then make a lot of accusations about others on this board that many of us have interacted with daily for several months. You get defensive. What are we going to see tomorrow? Who knows. I am staying long with this. It still has a solid feel. Name a stock that went thru hell like this and survived half this long. So, until this is over, I am going to drink the Koolaid, long and deep, until my thirst is quenched. Keep the faith!
Posted by cool AZ on :
The last 5 pgs have been mostly bickering ... takes 2 to bicker ... ignore the bashers who take a debatable topic and expand it into "the sky is falling"! I do not like the fact they take the focus from more fruitful conversation.
They certainly have affected me ... I bought more today (yesterday) and have my order in for tomorrow (today). When the bashers come to play, it is often a sign something good is coming ... we'll see. JMO
Good night ... GLTA.
Posted by 3403 on :
Well board, we will see what today brings. When these things used to happen I would get upset, but I wrote the money off mentally some time back so now it is a joke. To me it all boils down to two things. Where are the bonds, why don't we have an attorney? The 6-1 and $15.00 shares won't mean anything if we can't prove ownership and pay for defense. Because Rufus, Mike et al haven't done either we are in the unneccesary fix we are in today. This shouldn't be a big deal if everything said is real.
Posted by 3403 on :
You've got to wonder, CSHD doesn't build anything, doesn't sell anything and don't have a legal team to confer with... Soooo what do our officers do all day? I work, and imagine you guys do also.
Posted by portman on :
Well, time to dig in and do some DD on this next twist. This one might take some work.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Morning Portman! Morning everyone!
Posted by portman on :
Good morning to you Frank.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Morning Board...
Rough day ahead?....
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
The regulars may be getting discouraged. Rightfully so....
Please Cease and Desist from telling the board what you speculate my state of mind is on this stock. I do not speak for the others lest they care to comment.
If I were to sell you will all know. I sell, I comment on it. If I were to sell you would not see me come back and bother you all.
We come down to what I have repeatedly said about this play. Business plan and funding are there IMHO.
The question is if CSHD can execute the play and get it done.
The ability to execute will determine if shareholders are "with or without."
Right now I continue to hold my position and have no plans to exit it.
Posted by unclerudy on :
Morning everyone. Hopefully we will be getting some news that everyone wants to hear.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
So...cut your loss. Good Bye.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'm out for now. But I'll probably check back in. It's kind of like watching the proverbial car wreck: you know you shouldn't, but you do it anyway.
As to what "importance" I bring, all I can say is that I know how to cut a loss, when a loss has become apparent, and I understand how to recognize a stock that is a sham.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Damn, Port...how many hours of sleep did you get?
quote:Originally posted by portman: Well, time to dig in and do some DD on this next twist. This one might take some work.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Hey gang, sorry I haven't been around much, I've been flipping penny stocks to pay for my Dads suprise 50th Birthday party in Las Vegas. I hope Rufus gets the ball rollin soon so I don't have to work so hard day trading other stocks!!!! Thanks to all those who have kept the CSHD thread alive Posted by 66inxs on :
good morning everyone. looks like a great day today. don't forget divirsification is the key to success!!! have a great day trading and otherwise.
Posted by 66inxs on :
looks like today may be very interesting. check this out:
Deadline/Hearing Event Filed 11/16/06 Due/Set 12/04/06 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA ATLANTA DIVISION SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
Civil Action No. v. 1:06-CV-2568-CC
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
Defendants.
APPLICATION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”), plaintiff in the above-referenced matter, hereby applies to the Clerk of the Court pursuant to Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for an entry of default against defendant Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (“Conversion”). Entry of default is sought against Conversion for failure to plead or otherwise defend as provided by Rule 55(a).
In support of this application for entry of default against Conversion, the plaintiff has filed Conversion’s return of service. The return of service of process establishes that Conversion, through its registered agent for service of process, Harvard Business Services of Lewes, Delaware, was served with the summons, complaint, request for temporary restraining order, memorandum in support, proposed order, and other associated documents on October 26, 2006. The return of service of process was filed with this Court on November 16, 2006 and is now part of the record in this case. Conversion was obligated to file an answer to the complaint not later than November 15, 2006, but has not filed an answer as required by the federal rules. Since Conversion has not timely filed a response to the complaint, and has not sought an extension, the entry of default is now appropriate. Under Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Clerk of Court is instructed to enter a default against a defendant who “has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by the rules,” when a failure to defend is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise. Indeed, the purpose of Rule 55(a) is to relieve the district judge of the obligation of reviewing applications for the entry of default. 6 James W. Moore et al. Moore’s Federal Practice ¶ 55.03[1] n.16 (2d ed. 1992). Thus, the power to enter default is given to the Clerk. Based therefore on the previously filed return of service of summons establishing that Conversion was served through its agent for service of process on October 26, 2006, and the authority specifically granted to the Clerk by Rule 55(a), the Commission respectfully requests the Clerk enter a default against defendant Conversion Solutions forthwith.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ William P. Hicks William P. Hicks District Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 351649 /s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Senior Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 785045 Counsel for Plaintiff SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION 3475 Lenox Road, N.E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Telephone: (404) 842-7600 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that on this 16th day of November, 2006, I mailed by United States Postal Service the preceding Notice of Filing of Returns of Service to the following non-CM/ECF participants: Rufus Paul Harris a/k/a Paul Rufus Harris 383 Clear Creek Road, N.W. Adairsville, Georgia 30103-5934 Conversion Solutions Holdings Corporation c/o Registered Agent Harvard Business Services 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958
/s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Counsel for Plaintiff Georgia Bar No. 785045 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Atlanta District Office 3475 Lenox Road, N. E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Tel. No. (404) 842-7678 blacka*sec.gov
Posted by sceptor on :
portman can you get with dogman and see if Mike A. filed for an extension to respond last friday?
thanks.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: portman can you get with dogman and see if Mike A. filed for an extension to respond last friday?
thanks.
FWIW...
paste from hsm Originally Posted by ALady in the House Mike already applied for a extentsion. on Fri.
Posted by 66inxs on :
if he didn't - GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: if he didn't - GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!
Do you only post lies?
We have several atty's on hsm, and they all agree that a motion can be filed at anytime before the 4th. So go play in sljb where you might do better at scaring people out of shares.
Posted by 66inxs on :
sceptor playing with sljb is like punching the tar baby - wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. however, i'm sure you have quite a lot of sljb in your portfolio.
Posted by NEL on :
Morning all. I usually check in a couple times a day just to see what's up. This latest sounds like complete BS... what about the form Mike signed last week? Sounds like more game playing. CSHD really needs to have a good lawyer on their side.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: sceptor playing with sljb is like punching the tar baby - wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. however, i'm sure you have quite a lot of sljb in your portfolio.
Me? I bought and sold sljb yesterday for a 3 bagger. Thanks for the concern though. Now run along.
Posted by 66inxs on :
good deal sceptor. btw, i'll run along when i am good and ready to run along. get it??
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: good deal sceptor. btw, i'll run along when i am good and ready to run along. get it??
If you plan on posting here, then try and post truthful statements rather than lies. So far all you have been capable of posting are lies, so I am sure it will be a reach for you. But I have faith that you can do it.
Posted by 66inxs on :
no problem with that sceptor. i will really try to not lose the faith that you have in me. have a great day and try to make some money out there.
Posted by wv1973 on :
It's great to see we picked up where we left off last night. So let me get all of this out of the way so we can move on to more important things. We started with liar so how about basher, mafia, short, moron, you aren't wanted here, your mother wears army boots, etc. etc.
Posted by 66inxs on :
you're right vw1973. no more of that for me today. let's move on to more important things!
Posted by jmoe20 on :
CSHD IS GOING DOWN DOWN DOWN. CSHD GOING DOWN. ITS GOING DOWN DOWN DWON. CSHD GOING DOWN.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: CSHD IS GOING DOWN DOWN DOWN. CSHD GOING DOWN. ITS GOING DOWN DOWN DWON. CSHD GOING DOWN.
You forgot this!
Posted by wv1973 on :
thank you mr springsteen. any mre words of wisdom?
Posted by ruthie on :
Let's hope there is still something good to come out of this thing...at some point...
Posted by jmoe20 on :
hahaha... repo .. i bought into your stock the other day before it went up $1.15... thank you for the $1400 profit.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Hey repo. Did you see the way WV kicked pitt last night? We are coming to get ya
Posted by new2stocks on :
morning board!
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Hey repo. Did you see the way WV kicked pitt last night? We are coming to get ya
Yeah, that's a pretty crazy offense you guys have.. like having 2 running backs in the backfield going at once... Good thing RU defense is rated #2 (maybe #1 if UM gets their tail whipped).
But your defense stinks. We'll see. Should be a crazy game.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Defense is young. adjusted at half and pitt didn't score second half.
Posted by wv1973 on :
also, by the end of the third quarter, pitt players huffn and puffn. wv is on of the best conditioned teams that has two thoroughbred speed demons on offense. arguably since peterson went down at ou, slaton has to be one the best backs in the country.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: also, by the end of the third quarter, pitt players huffn and puffn. wv is on of the best conditioned teams that has two thoroughbred speed demons on offense. arguably since peterson went down at ou, slaton has to be one the best backs in the country.
Same thing with RU's offense... Louisville's D had no air left in the 4th.
And Pitt. stinks. YOu guys should have won by 40.
Game on Dec. 2nd!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Damn, Port...how many hours of sleep did you get?
quote:Originally posted by portman: Well, time to dig in and do some DD on this next twist. This one might take some work.
2.5
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: portman can you get with dogman and see if Mike A. filed for an extension to respond last friday?
thanks.
Request was already in. Will advise as known.
Posted by sceptor on :
Thanks man.
Posted by wv1973 on :
yeah, repo, and since harris & co. has until 12/04 to respond to the latest default filing, we'll have a good time no matter who wins.
Posted by atthebank on :
thanks
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
So everyone is in agreeance that the motion was filed but we do not know if the court has answered, and MA filed an extension earlier on Friday but we don't know why it wasn't added on Pacer.
Posted by Doniboy on :
I am sick of extensions. What do these people do all day?
Sorry for the negativity, I'd just like to see something resolved for once.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: So everyone is in agreeance that the motion was filed but we do not know if the court has answered, and MA filed an extension earlier on Friday but we don't know why it wasn't added on Pacer.
It is not a known fact that Mike A. filed an extension last friday. The court wont respond until the 4th. cshd has until that hearing to respond if they are going to do so.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: So everyone is in agreeance that the motion was filed but we do not know if the court has answered, and MA filed an extension earlier on Friday but we don't know why it wasn't added on Pacer.
It is not a known fact that Mike A. filed an extension last friday. The court wont respond until the 4th. cshd has until that hearing to respond if they are going to do so.
OK thanks.
Posted by madmoney on :
stock was suspended but thats OK rufus has all his ducks in a row and everything will be taken care of at court!! oops rufus went to court with no lawyer but thats OK he had all the papers for the judge everything will be straightened out on the 7th!!. rufus singed a discovery agreement? the SEC has nothing as soon as they file the 10K/10Q everthing will be fine, in the mean time rufus has stepped down for the good of the company wow what a guy! everthings great!! new BOD we are golden!!.no filings on the 15th!! oops BOD stepped down wished the company well!! rufus is back!! fantastic!! Mike A is gone! did he file the extention before he left? oops maybe not! no worries we have until the 4th? is rufus the CEO? no 8K yet but hey they have 4 days to file right? wow what a great stock! think i will mortgage the house today to buy more while it`s low!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! this sucks!!!!!!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Morning New2.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: morning board!
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: stock was suspended but thats OK rufus has all his ducks in a row and everything will be taken care of at court!! oops rufus went to court with no lawyer but thats OK he had all the papers for the judge everything will be straightened out on the 7th!!. rufus singed a discovery agreement? the SEC has nothing as soon as they file the 10K/10Q everthing will be fine, in the mean time rufus has stepped down for the good of the company wow what a guy! everthings great!! new BOD we are golden!!.no filings on the 15th!! oops BOD stepped down wished the company well!! rufus is back!! fantastic!! Mike A is gone! did he file the extention before he left? oops maybe not! no worries we have until the 4th? is rufus the CEO? no 8K yet but hey they have 4 days to file right? wow what a great stock! think i will mortgage the house today to buy more while it`s low!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! this sucks!!!!!!
AGREE
Posted by 3403 on :
We for the most part are good people. We want to believe what our corporate officers say, and do. We want to trust their judgement, listen to their excuses, keep the faith so to speak. Even when they keep hitting us in the head with a 2x4.... Shame on them.
Posted by luvforever on :
Mad ...ummm ...I tink YOU"RE MAD!!!! j/k ~LOL
Posted by madmoney on :
who me?? naw!!! ( well maybe just a tad! )
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Morning New2.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: morning board!
Good morning St Matt!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Here's a question: Do you guys think they are even going to bother filing a 10Q on Monday? Personally I think that will be the ultimate death blow to this, I don't believe that's going to happen.
Who is even running the company ? Rufus ? Who else is even in it ? This has just become so insane.
I really wish I had sold at $3.50, I almost did, every trading bone in my body said "sell, take you gains and walk". But I TRUSTED what RPH was telling us; stupid stupid stupid !
I will tell you what; this experience has made me a much better trader and I have some new rules:
# 1. All PK and OTCBB CEO's are liars and pumpers; guilty until proven innocent.
# 2. Trade Pennies - don't invest and get out during the run.
Simple rules !
What amazes me is that there are THOUSANDS of investors who have their money tied up in this and who are now screwed. I don't know how RPH can ever show his face in public, or ever be trusted again. He is the new "Frank Olsen" , the new "Mario Pino" in my view.
Anyway I really hope no one get too hurt on this, I lost a nice chunk but I won't starve.
Good luck everybody, I'd bet money on no 10Q; who the hell is there to prepare it ? Rufus ?
Posted by 66inxs on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: stock was suspended but thats OK rufus has all his ducks in a row and everything will be taken care of at court!! oops rufus went to court with no lawyer but thats OK he had all the papers for the judge everything will be straightened out on the 7th!!. rufus singed a discovery agreement? the SEC has nothing as soon as they file the 10K/10Q everthing will be fine, in the mean time rufus has stepped down for the good of the company wow what a guy! everthings great!! new BOD we are golden!!.no filings on the 15th!! oops BOD stepped down wished the company well!! rufus is back!! fantastic!! Mike A is gone! did he file the extention before he left? oops maybe not! no worries we have until the 4th? is rufus the CEO? no 8K yet but hey they have 4 days to file right? wow what a great stock! think i will mortgage the house today to buy more while it`s low!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! this sucks!!!!!!
agreed. i'll cosign. not what we expected, but sometimes reality sucks!!!
Posted by cool AZ on :
That's funny luv, I thought the same thing! Mad, mad, madmoney ...
In any case, I'm sticking with the bonds! ... and Rufus.
Posted by luvforever on :
~LOL Now on a serious note who made me cry with that video of "strongest dad"? Heck I haven't even cried over cshd yet and you do that to me now? Of all the cruel things to do! LOL That just goes to show you life is good ....Life aaah ...feel it, remember we make life what we want and grab the tiger by the tail!!!!~LOL Posted by ClayN on :
Has any flipped any shares while on the greys? Buy in at .25 and sell at .35 or something?
Posted by luvforever on :
Come on own up to it! LOL Who I ask put that video for all to see?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Here's a question: Do you guys think they are even going to bother filing a 10Q on Monday? Personally I think that will be the ultimate death blow to this, I don't believe that's going to happen.
Who is even running the company ? Rufus ? Who else is even in it ? This has just become so insane.
I really wish I had sold at $3.50, I almost did, every trading bone in my body said "sell, take you gains and walk". But I TRUSTED what RPH was telling us; stupid stupid stupid !
I will tell you what; this experience has made me a much better trader and I have some new rules:
# 1. All PK and OTCBB CEO's are liars and pumpers; guilty until proven innocent.
# 2. Trade Pennies - don't invest and get out during the run.
Simple rules !
What amazes me is that there are THOUSANDS of investors who have their money tied up in this and who are now screwed. I don't know how RPH can ever show his face in public, or ever be trusted again. He is the new "Frank Olsen" , the new "Mario Pino" in my view.
Anyway I really hope no one get too hurt on this, I lost a nice chunk but I won't starve.
Good luck everybody, I'd bet money on no 10Q; who the hell is there to prepare it ? Rufus ?
Only greed will cause you to go against what you know is the correct trading techniques for pennies. If you never flipped to get at least your initial investment out then you (you in general not personally) have no one to blame but your own greed.
There is ZERO risk in holding freebies.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Here's a question: Do you guys think they are even going to bother filing a 10Q on Monday? Personally I think that will be the ultimate death blow to this, I don't believe that's going to happen.
Who is even running the company ? Rufus ? Who else is even in it ? This has just become so insane.
I really wish I had sold at $3.50, I almost did, every trading bone in my body said "sell, take you gains and walk". But I TRUSTED what RPH was telling us; stupid stupid stupid !
I will tell you what; this experience has made me a much better trader and I have some new rules:
# 1. All PK and OTCBB CEO's are liars and pumpers; guilty until proven innocent.
# 2. Trade Pennies - don't invest and get out during the run.
Simple rules !
What amazes me is that there are THOUSANDS of investors who have their money tied up in this and who are now screwed. I don't know how RPH can ever show his face in public, or ever be trusted again. He is the new "Frank Olsen" , the new "Mario Pino" in my view.
Anyway I really hope no one get too hurt on this, I lost a nice chunk but I won't starve.
Good luck everybody, I'd bet money on no 10Q; who the hell is there to prepare it ? Rufus ?
If you invest here...Trade first...take capital and profit off the table...ride free shares. Ignore this at your own peril.
Every stock I have been in with ya Smelly...the same mantra is spoken by those who have trading experience.
I still think you trade to emotionally Smelly...but I do luv ya! Posted by SherriT on :
Hi all! Looks like we had a good ole' slugfest last night...
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by ClayN: Has any flipped any shares while on the greys? Buy in at .25 and sell at .35 or something?
YEPA,
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I won't be trading emotionally anymore, lol. CSHD has been the cold water wake-up call in my face. Yes I lost money and I didn't trade this well.
However, I have health, wealth, happiness and a great life so really I can't complain.
I actually feel sorry for Rufus, he is hated by thousands. He is going to be in court for a long time, possibly jail. The legacy he has left to his family is that he lost thousand of investors money due to his incompitence. He's probably going to be sued for a long time by private investors over this charade. He can't ever come close to running a company - his name joins the 'Penny Stock Wall of Shame'.
Yikes, I'm glad I'm me !
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: I won't be trading emotionally anymore, lol. CSHD has been the cold water wake-up call in my face. Yes I lost money and I didn't trade this well.
However, I have health, wealth, happiness and a great life so really I can't complain.
I actually feel sorry for Rufus, he is hated by thousands. He is going to be in court for a long time, possibly jail. The legacy he has left to his family is that he lost thousand of investors money due to his incompitence. He's probably going to be sued for a long time by private investors over this charade. He can't ever come close to running a company - his name joins the 'Penny Stock Wall of Shame'.
Yikes, I'm glad I'm me !
So now we have Urban, Mario, Frank, Chris, and Rufus.... did I miss anyone?
Posted by 3403 on :
Well, my first experience in pennies. Sooo you know I have learned a bunch. May even keep me from trading pennies ever again, or certainly make me a whole lot more careful. I came in to high and way to late so chances of me recouping anything is small should this tank. Can only hope Rufus somehow has something up his sleeve, but have my doubts.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Petar! You missed Petar! Posted by Doniboy on :
Who was the guy from NDOL and the guy from RSHN?
Posted by TimW on :
news of a default in the making and cshd is still setting level.
weird.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Very!
quote:Originally posted by TimW: news of a default in the making and cshd is still setting level.
weird.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Actually, it's been VERY volatile today, trading for as low as $0.21 and for as much as $0.35 ...
Posted by Jo4321 on :
We need a thread for the CEO Hall of shame names and Photos. Maybe in the newbie area?
JO
Posted by CRab on :
Tim, The reason for that is because we aren't trading on an exchange where buying and selling has has an effect on price...speculation has no bearing on the price when MM's aren't available to take advantage...anyone that thinks otherwise is simply a fool...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jo4321: We need a thread for the CEO Hall of shame names and Photos. Maybe in the newbie area?
JO
Get it going, I'll add to it.
Should have NAME, pic if available, stock symbol, price decline (from $1 to .001 say), and the nature of the scam.
Posted by 6digits on :
Repo find another thread to discuss your crap, how about at frpt?
Posted by 6digits on :
I'll come over there and post the encyclopedia brittanica for you guys, won't that be fun?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Repo find another thread to discuss your crap, how about at frpt?
I thought this was the thread to discuss CRAP... sorry, I'm outta here.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote: I'll come over there and post the encyclopedia brittanica for you guys, won't that be fun?
Post anything you want in the FRPT thread. It'll keep the CSHD thread off the top of the forum. Posted by luvforever on :
Anyone? Why is CSHD so popular? ~LOL Posted by 6digits on :
Ya but it will still be on the top of the againstum.
Posted by luvforever on :
What is cshd doing that it is on everyones tongue? ~LOL Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Actually, it's been VERY volatile today, trading for as low as $0.21 and for as much as $0.35 ...
No different than any other day we have seen on the greys.
Posted by Jenna on :
Luv- Do you know what's going on right now? Just curious, did you read this thread from last night? Do you know about the new document on Pacer's?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Let's see luv, what is it about CSHD ... could it be:
the logs ...? the bonds ...? the JV's ...? the shorts ...? the energy credits ...? Rufus ...?
... can't think of much else!
Posted by luvforever on :
Yes Jenna... I ve been here since .33 fhal LOL Just being well...like Rufas! ~LOL Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Yes Jenna... I ve been here since .33 fhal LOL Just being well...like Rufas! ~LOL
OK- I didn't know if you just popped in or if you were reading all along.... Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote: Anyone? Why is CSHD so popular? ~LOL
Is it because this guy:
Is more fun than this guy:
Truly, I think it is because it is a soap opera stock. In so many other stocks you lose your money and that's that--pretty boring. With this one (and SLJB, too), you get entertainment value. Never knowing what twist will come up next.
Jo
Posted by new2stocks on :
LMAO!
Posted by Lauralai on :
FWIW....
Request for Clerk's Entry of Default
OVERVIEW
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 55, made applicable to bankruptcy proceedings by Fed. R. Bankr. P. 7055, provides the procedures for defaults and default judgments.
The entry of default by the clerk precedes the issuance of a default judgment. It is essentially a notation on the docket that the defendant has failed to plead or defend in a case as required by law. An entry of default is required before a clerk can sign and enter a default judgment.
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 55 provides that default must be entered by the clerk "[w]hen a party against whom a judgment for affirmative relief is sought has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by these rules and that fact is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise . . . ." Fed. R. Civ. P. 55(a). The clerk is permitted to enter a default only upon being presented with an affidavit or affirmation setting forth the facts. These facts should normally include:
o Date of issuance of the summons; o Statement of whether the court fixed a deadline for the filing of an answer or motion, or whether the 30 (or 35) day limit applies; o Date of service of the complaint; o Date of filing of affidavit of service; o Statement that no answer or motion has been received within the time limit fixed by the court or by Fed. R. Bankr. P. 7012(a); and o Statement that the defendant is not in the military service, as required by 50 U.S.C. app. § 520.
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) BETA TEST SITE e-CFR Data is current as of November 14, 2006
Title 17: Commodity and Securities Exchanges PART 201—RULES OF PRACTICE Subpart D—Rules of Practice Rules Regarding Hearings Browse Previous | Browse Next § 201.310 Failure to appear at hearings: Default. Any person named in an order instituting proceedings as a person against whom findings may be made or sanctions imposed who fails to appear at a hearing of which he or she has been duly notified may be deemed to be in default pursuant to §201.155(a). A party may make a motion to set aside a default pursuant to §201.155(b).
Home Page > Executive Branch > Code of Federal Regulations > Electronic Code of Federal Regulations Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) BETA TEST SITE e-CFR Data is current as of November 14, 2006
Title 17: Commodity and Securities Exchanges PART 201—RULES OF PRACTICE Subpart D—Rules of Practice General Rules Browse Previous | Browse Next § 201.155 Default; motion to set aside default. (a) A party to a proceeding may be deemed to be in default and the Commission or the hearing officer may determine the proceeding against that party upon consideration of the record, including the order instituting proceedings, the allegations of which may be deemed to be true, if that party fails: (1) To appear, in person or through a representative, at a hearing or conference of which that party has been notified; (2) To answer, to respond to a dispositive motion within the time provided, or otherwise to defend the proceeding; or (3) To cure a deficient filing within the time specified by the commission or the hearing officer pursuant to §201.180(b). (b) A motion to set aside a default shall be made within a reasonable time, state the reasons for the failure to appear or defend, and specify the nature of the proposed defense in the proceeding. In order to prevent injustice and on such conditions as may be appropriate, the hearing officer, at any time prior to the filing of the initial decision, or the Commission, at any time, may for good cause shown set aside a default.
Should we get suspended "for our own good" again, this might be more effective than (or in addition to) waiting for responses from politicians....
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) BETA TEST SITE e-CFR Data is current as of November 14, 2006
Title 17: Commodity and Securities Exchanges PART 201—RULES OF PRACTICE Subpart D—Rules of Practice Rules Relating to Temporary Orders and Suspensions Browse Previous § 201.550 Summary suspensions pursuant to Exchange Act Section 12(k)(1)(A). (a) Petition for termination of suspension. Any person adversely affected by a suspension pursuant to Section 12(k)(1)(A) of the Exchange Act, 15 U.S.C. 78l(k)(1)(A), who desires to show that such suspension is not necessary in the public interest or for the protection of investors may file a sworn petition with the Secretary, requesting that the suspension be terminated. The petition shall set forth the reasons why the petitioner believes that the suspension of trading should not continue and state with particularity the facts upon which the petitioner relies. (b) Commission consideration of a petition. The Commission, in its discretion, may schedule a hearing on the matter, request additional written submissions, or decide the matter on the facts presented in the petition and any other relevant facts known to the Commission. If the petitioner fails to cooperate with, obstructs, or refuses to permit the making of an examination by the Commission, such conduct shall be grounds to deny the petition. Browse Previous
Are these real sells that are going through? Are people stupid enough to sell now. After you have lost almost everything why not lose it all. I would like to think that we have a bad case of MM screwing around.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Thanks for the info Lauralai
Posted by Jenna on :
Lauralai, thank you so much for the post but can you tell me in laymen's terms what that means...I'm horrible with these documents.....they all look SCARY to me....
I would apprecialte it if you could explain - thanks in advance
Jenna
Posted by 6digits on :
Temporary suspensions are'nt that much of a win/win to me when the outcome is this gray sheet bull****.
Posted by MTPromises on :
the last trade went through as "Sold Out of Sequence" - what does that mean and why does it happen?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote: Anyone? Why is CSHD so popular? ~LOL
Is it because this guy:
Is more fun than this guy:
Truly, I think it is because it is a soap opera stock. In so many other stocks you lose your money and that's that--pretty boring. With this one (and SLJB, too), you get entertainment value. Never knowing what twist will come up next.
Jo
What's in Rufus' hand? Rufus your jeans are about 2 sizes to big darlin'.....
Wasn't that other guy in an episode of the Soprano's?
Posted by Doniboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: .....they all look SCARY to me....
LOL....
Posted by CRab on :
It sure is nice outside.
Posted by 3403 on :
YEP
Posted by Jenna on :
Crab - Can you explain that document that Lauralai posted? Thanx....
Posted by 3403 on :
I and several others bought this stock because of the excitment of a friend. Others bought this stock because of my excitment. and the pyramid goes on and on.....
Posted by Lauralai on :
Jenna, I'm not great with legal jargon myself, but here's my take on the above (anyone, please feel free to correct me if I'm off-base):
The first link details the requirements that need to be met before a request for default can be entered-means they had to prove all the points mentioned (i.e. they served Rufus, Rufus failed to show up to court, failed to defend himself, etc.)
The second link is just a legal definition of what it means to default.
The third is a motion Rufus can file to counter the SEC's motion, should the judge initially find for the SEC. Means he better give the judge a darn good dog-and-pony show from here on out and a whopper of a story why he failed to comply with the court process thus far.
The last link means we can approach the SEC directly, legally, with our concerns about their actions. An official statement probably carries way more weight with them than a complaint in their Customer Service mailbox...
Posted by ruiz5 on :
Rufus said a priority was to draw down on one of the bonds in three to five days. Would that make today the 3rd day meaning this could be done today and if so when and how will we find out if this has been done?
Posted by 3403 on :
Where's the Ruf? Maybe he's unaware of what is going on?
Posted by Jo4321 on :
That's Rufus's Cowbell.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Lauralai...
Where are you getting any idea that this is what is happenning to CSHD now? Did I miss some news?
Stating the laws is fine but some of us just can't ready every post and when we (I) run across something like your post my initial reation is WTF happenned.
Has something (a fact) been posted about a legal proceeding directly relating to the information you are posting or are you just posting it as a reference list of possible what ifs?
I don't mean to offend you but I'm just wondering?
Posted by 3403 on :
I left Mr. Harris a concerned message on his phone. Will let you know if he returns the call.
Posted by 6digits on :
Archive from last night is on about the rule 55. The conversation sounds good in Rufus's favor. On subpenny. JJ versus beaches
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanx Lauralai,
What's the best way for us to approach the SEC directly - by "us" do you mean shareholders?
Posted by CRab on :
To be perfectly honest Lauralai posted all I could have said just now. I can tell you that (b) in the third paragraph is what I THINK we're waiting for. I mean, the truth is we DO NOT know what kind of contact has been made between the SEC, Rufus, CSHD, and the Judge. WE DO NOT KNOW THAT. The SEC can file all the petitions and filings their teeny, tiny little hearts desire. In the same breath, CSHD can as well.
No matter what they file and introduce, we just have to wait and see what the JUDGE/COURT says. Everything else is just adding to OUR confusion, and no one here can assume just because we don't have a grasp on exactly what is going on, all parties actually involved in the suit don't.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Crab - Can you explain that document that Lauralai posted? Thanx....
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Are we all still going to Las Vegas? I will need as much lead time as possible as I’ll be riding my bicycle from Dallas, TX – can’t afford the flight now. Oh, and does anyone know if it’s legal to sleep outside on the street? That’s right; I can’t afford the hotel room either. It should be loads of fun, but a little awkward celebrating the SEC’s victory.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Jo4321: That's Rufus's Cowbell.
LOL - I guess I haven't seen to many in my life!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Are we all still going to Las Vegas? I will need as much lead time as possible as I’ll be riding my bicycle from Dallas, TX – can’t afford the flight now. Oh, and does anyone know if it’s legal to sleep outside on the street? That’s right; I can’t afford the hotel room either. It should be loads of fun, but a little awkward celebrating the SEC’s victory.
You can live off the land in Vegas I hear-
Posted by etouqe123 on :
This is getting sooo old already. How long is CSHD going to play the idiot defense, were so imcompetent your honor that we didnt hire a lawyer or get an extention, etc, etc. It just makes me think sometimes, how in the hell can someone have access to billions in bonds but cant file any document in a timely matter or lay any of the infrastructure (staff) to make this a successfull company.
Sometimes I just feel like I'm being dooped and all these little things that the company "forgets" to file is all a diversion to keep our minds off the 6:1 or OTCB or Nasdaq. Well there doing of fine job of it because I havent heard any mention of Nasdaq in quite a while.
Posted by Lauralai on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Lauralai...
Where are you getting any idea that this is what is happenning to CSHD now? Did I miss some news?
Stating the laws is fine but some of us just can't ready every post and when we (I) run across something like your post my initial reation is WTF happenned.
Has something (a fact) been posted about a legal proceeding directly relating to the information you are posting or are you just posting it as a reference list of possible what ifs?
I don't mean to offend you but I'm just wondering?
No worries Stockstar. Didn't mean to get you spun up...
If you go back just a couple pages to page 45, there is a post containing the SEC's application of an entry of default against Rufus/CSHD. My post was simply listing what the requirements were for entering the default application, the definition of default, and what Rufus might be able to do in response to such a motion. The last link was just an FYI in case we (or any other stock) gets suspended, there's something we can do about it to be heard.
Posted by 6digits on :
Talk is they filed the rule 55 with the clerk instead of the judge thus keeping the judge out of the loop. Cute little trick.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Are we all still going to Las Vegas? I will need as much lead time as possible as I’ll be riding my bicycle from Dallas, TX – can’t afford the flight now. Oh, and does anyone know if it’s legal to sleep outside on the street? That’s right; I can’t afford the hotel room either. It should be loads of fun, but a little awkward celebrating the SEC’s victory.
That's better than riding a bike from Upstate New York!!! I'm only an hour and a half away from Niagara Falls!!! THAT'S FAR FROM VEGAS...I'm going to lose 40 pounds riding my bike there....maybe someone that flipped a few times and made a lot of money can get a room in there name & we can all pile in , maybe if we all pitch in - it should only be about $5 dollars a night - then we can cash in cans that we find for money to gamble with!!! Sounds like a plan....
Posted by TexasMoney on :
It’s all part of the strategy. We purposely wanted to look like incompetent idiots and pulled it off to perfection. I can’t believe the SEC was so gullible to fall for it. We have them trapped in our web of stupidity and there will be no escape.
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: This is getting sooo old already. How long is CSHD going to play the idiot defense, were so imcompetent your honor that we didnt hire a lawyer or get an extention, etc, etc. It just makes me think sometimes, how in the hell can someone have access to billions in bonds but cant file any document in a timely matter or lay any of the infrastructure (staff) to make this a successfull company.
Sometimes I just feel like I'm being dooped and all these little things that the company "forgets" to file is all a diversion to keep our minds off the 6:1 or OTCB or Nasdaq. Well there doing of fine job of it because I havent heard any mention of Nasdaq in quite a while.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
SO if everything is all good then why are we still trading with pps X .25c? For those of you still buying, you are CRAZY!!! I'll hold and hope my grand will miracously show back up.
Don't tell me nothing has changed cause the PPS sure the hell has......
Back to class I go.....
Posted by Jenna on :
Never Mind!
Posted by wv1973 on :
CRab, in the last thread I went over the procedures when MA and RPH signed the waivers. They had 14 or 15 days to either file a motion for dismissal and explain why or file the company's evidence to defend itself. It apparently has done neither since the default was filed.
The judge almost has no recourse but to rule in favor of the SEC if the company won't stop dicking around and stand up and defend itself.
Posted by 3403 on :
Jenna you're a nurse aren't you?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
They should have tried to save the horse first – probably had more long term value!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna you're a nurse aren't you?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: SO if everything is all good then why are we still trading with pps X .25c? For those of you still buying, you are CRAZY!!! I'll hold and hope my grand will miracously show back up.
Don't tell me nothing has changed cause the PPS sure the hell has......
Back to class I go.....
PROTECT YOUR CAPITAL and take a little profit to keep you in the game.
Posted by 3403 on :
I am sending flowers and a Get Well card. Anyone want to chip in?
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: While riding one of his steeds yesterday morning Rufus was thrown. He obtained a head injury which has put him into a temporary coma. His Doctors believe there are no permanant injuries and he will recover in a few weeks. The horse suffered a broken leg unfortunatly and was shot.
His mother is at his bedside room #214 Baptist Hospital Kenasaw, Georgia.
3403 could you please address where you got that information?
Posted by frank021474 on :
HAHAHAHAA 3403- you fuqer! You had me for a second but then I was thinking- his mom was kicking arse and taking names on HSM I thought this morning and last night!
TexasMoney! That chit was funny Posted by Jenna on :
How can you be in a "temporary" coma - those were the words - I've never heard of that - how do they know it's temporary they can only speculate...plus you can't talk to people on the phone in the evening if you are in a coma in the morning.....
Posted by 6digits on :
3403 where did you hear that. If it's not true cool the bull, sell and go build houses or something.
Posted by wv1973 on :
3403 -- you aren't wrapped too tight lol. in fact lmao. Hey everybody it's a take off from an earlier posting comparing our story with soap operas. Stayed for the next episode where rufus finds out his wife may be his sister.
Posted by MTPromises on :
I wonder what it would be like to get some good news.
Posted by Jenna on :
3403- I enjoy your poems but that was not funny - in fact it was kinda sick!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Goooohhhh- I thought if I told jokes I could score with chicks....
~3403
LOL You did get me though!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: 3403 -- you aren't wrapped too tight lol. in fact lmao. Hey everybody it's a take off from an earlier posting comparing our story with soap operas. Stayed for the next episode where rufus finds out
his wife may be his sister.
Well, he is in Georgia? Posted by Jenna on :
3403- I believe in Karma - I'd hold tight today...becareful- One time one of my friends didn't go to work because she said her kids were sick (she was fibbing)& then that day they started throwing up all over the place.....Be careful.... God Bless!
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya i'm not a doctor, but I agree with Jenna that they don't predict with any accuracy how long someone will be in a coma. You guys should be listening to subpenny theres a fed court attorney talking on there now.
Posted by 10of13 on :
3403...not funny! Mods? delete the stuff would ya please?
Posted by jmoe20 on :
At this time Rufus is riding his horse across the mexican border to save face. He has taken half of his steeds with him and will be short selling all of them for a profit. He advises everyone to bet on them racing, but in reality little does everyone know that just like cshd they will be betting on air and false facts, not actual horses! In turn the mexicans will put him on a scewer (sp?) and roast rufus as well as his cowboy hat for lieing to all of them and stealing there money, much like he did with CON version solutions. The title of there webpage currently reads Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. It should read Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. Today you invest tommorow I steal your money.
WAPAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Tomorrow's Solutions Today
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: 3403...not funny! Mods? delete the stuff would ya please?
Preserved and printed hard copy...ban it! It knew what it was doing and did so with intent.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Did I say Baptist? I meant Our Mother of Mary.
Thanks for wasting 10 min of my day, normally I charge people for wasting my time. No more BS please...
Posted by portman on :
This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
Posted by 6digits on :
I think theres enough drama here already without us adding to it. If you need a soap opera go start a soap opera thread. I don't care for soap opera's personally.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Thanks Repo.. And no im not short in the stock.. i actually still own some shares, but im tired of this dragging on bs... if this all proves to be false, it's great to know i wasted 5 months of investing in a fraud.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Thanks Repo.. And no im not short in the stock.. i actually still own some shares, but im tired of this dragging on bs... if this all proves to be false, it's great to know i wasted 5 months of investing in a fraud.
Posted by Jenna on :
Can we clear up the clutter on this thread & talk about the situation at hand!!!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Thanks Repo.. And no im not short in the stock.. i actually still own some shares, but im tired of this dragging on bs... if this all proves to be false, it's great to know i wasted 5 months of investing in a fraud.
Well I did make 5k to only place a grand back in that I'll prob lose.
But the real kicker is if this is all false, then we had some peeps with diarrhea at the mouth and good at it so alway be careful!!!
Protect your capital!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Can we clear up the clutter on this thread & talk about the situation at hand!!!!
Agreed!
Posted by Jenna on :
So what's the next move? Can we ask Investors Relations if the company has retained a lawyer? Can they even answer that?
Posted by jmoe20 on :
My roommate has about 30,000 shares of this... I can't even fathom the fact that he had at one point over $100,000 in this stock from $5,000 invested... This is me just being bitter about this stock, because i see all my friends and how much money they once had, to what they don't have now... It's actually pretty sad, and the fact that Rufus is not making any public comment, and just going on SPR??? all the time is not a 8k or a PR... I just think he knows hes done and hes running now.. What's to say that he cant talk on his cell phone on SPR but really be on the run? Nothing.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
The only thing WE can do is watch while they figure out things, otherwise we'd have had the SEC on tract long ago and thats not the case.
Sit back and watch and hope that the pps doesn't stay X .24. I have a feeling we've been had...
I kept a few chats from RPH and I will turn that in to the SEC today when I get home.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: My roommate has about 30,000 shares of this... I can't even fathom the fact that he had at one point over $100,000 in this stock from $5,000 invested... This is me just being bitter about this stock, because i see all my friends and how much money they once had, to what they don't have now... It's actually pretty sad, and the fact that Rufus is not making any public comment, and just going on SPR??? all the time is not a 8k or a PR... I just think he knows hes done and hes running now.. What's to say that he cant talk on his cell phone on SPR but really be on the run? Nothing.
At least he's still head of his $5k.. barely.
Some of us (myself included) bought in late at over $2/share.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: My roommate has about 30,000 shares of this... I can't even fathom the fact that he had at one point over $100,000 in this stock from $5,000 invested... This is me just being bitter about this stock, because i see all my friends and how much money they once had, to what they don't have now... It's actually pretty sad, and the fact that Rufus is not making any public comment, and just going on SPR??? all the time is not a 8k or a PR... I just think he knows hes done and hes running now.. What's to say that he cant talk on his cell phone on SPR but really be on the run? Nothing.
Where the F is he going to run? He going to pack up that horse ranch and move it? EVERYONE knows where he lives.
He has had shareholders over to his house. Its not like he can rob a convenience store and roll on the lamb.....
Ridiculous the imaginations in here. We have yet to see anything from the company so until then why speculate? Does it help somehow?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: The only thing WE can do is watch while they figure out things, otherwise we'd have had the SEC on tract long ago and thats not the case.
Sit back and watch and hope that the pps doesn't stay X .24. I have a feeling we've been had...
I kept a few chats from RPH and I will turn that in to the SEC today when I get home.
atta boy
Posted by TimW on :
What shareholders has he had over at his ranch? Anyone here? Anyone thats here that still holds a position that didnt sell out when it was high?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Yea well, promises after promises and none happening. Reminds me of SLJB and their troubles...
Posted by Jenna on :
Outside a few good people this thread seems to be infested with muck & I will take a break - hopefully when I come back we can discuss things & add info that is useful......If people want to discuss "other" things that's what PM's are for a lot of us use that function here...others should try it.....Good Day... be back in a few hours....
Posted by frank021474 on :
Tons of shareholders went to the ranch- for a bbq on the 7th.
Were you asleep for the week everyone was talking about it?
Most of the folks are still long in this stock that went (the ones I know for sure).
Posted by jmoe20 on :
I know Tim, but still... do you know what anyone could do with $100,000 grand... in and ING SAVINGS account alone that puppy would make $4,000 off of itself every year... It's just sad... I've seen very few occassions where a stock spurts to $4 and a week later is down to mid $1 to high $1 now a week after that gets halted then is now at .25 cents.... I for one had 10,000 shares in this, and wish i held so that i could have hit my original sell order at 2.47 i would have made $19,000 off this, but i got nervous because it started sliding hard, so i sold.... There is just no excuse for this volatility, and I think Rufus was using the short selling as an excuse personally and he himself was the one shorting the stock, and banking on it... The amount of times this stock shot way up then came back down so quickly is just incredible, i'm sure the MM's weren't responsible fully for dropping this stock like that, this, but with nothing but good news, the MM's aren't going to just drop a stock like that, only till the SEC thing came uncovered was their bad news... anyways im done, got to get back to work.
Posted by 6digits on :
Money that's going to help a lot. Give it a chance already.
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: The only thing WE can do is watch while they figure out things, otherwise we'd have had the SEC on tract long ago and thats not the case.
Sit back and watch and hope that the pps doesn't stay X .24. I have a feeling we've been had...
I kept a few chats from RPH and I will turn that in to the SEC today when I get home.
Posted by Jenna on :
Hey Money Money Money!!! Nice to see you!!!! Talk to you all later...
Posted by frank021474 on :
Good post jmoe- I almost....wait....**sniff sniff.....
I love people that spend time in their day just to sit on this thread and whine about lost money. Worst yet- you are whinning about some elses lost money.
What do you do for fun? Sit in group therapy sessions so you can feel sympathy for battered husbands?
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Tons of shareholders went to the ranch- for a bbq on the 7th.
Were you asleep for the week everyone was talking about it?
Most of the folks are still long in this stock that went (the ones I know for sure).
tons? I seem to remember 2 or 3 who alledge to have gone, where are they now?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Did anyone from here go to the BBQ at the ranch?
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Tons of shareholders went to the ranch- for a bbq on the 7th.
Were you asleep for the week everyone was talking about it?
Most of the folks are still long in this stock that went (the ones I know for sure).
I remember the discussion on it.. But anyone could say that they went. Just wondering if anyone that actually did go still posts on this thread as a shareholder.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Tons of shareholders went to the ranch- for a bbq on the 7th.
Were you asleep for the week everyone was talking about it?
Most of the folks are still long in this stock that went (the ones I know for sure).
I remember the discussion on it.. But anyone could say that they went. Just wondering if anyone that actually did go still posts on this thread as a shareholder.
They should have taken a picture...
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
I agree with you .... The only basher type I don't mind is Repo (he has more class than the others). This thread has to take on a differant approach. People who don't have an interested investment should get the f*ck out of here. They are the same type that cheer when someone is diagnosed with cancer. Let's check with glassman to see how to get them banned. This crap has been going on for a couple of days now and good people are leaving. Now joking that Rufus is in the hospital with his mother at his bedside. It has to stop. I'll see what can be done.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thats what we are speculating now? That perhaps he didn't have shareholders over for a cookout??????
Just want to make sure I have the story straight here-
Posted by 6digits on :
I think Milliam was there, but I don't see a post by him today.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
I think there were some pictures from the ranch. However, I don't feel like searching through 6 threads to find them. Richby26 wanna do it? Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
I agree with you .... The only basher type I don't mind is Repo (he has more class than the others). This thread has to take on a differant approach. People who don't have an interested investment should get the f*ck out of here. They are the same type that cheer when someone is diagnosed with cancer. Let's check with glassman to see how to get them banned.
Thanks! Again, I'm not a basher... I'm just bored usually. I know NOTHING about CSHD except its 3 month chart, its CEO's name, and how to spell it... C S H D!
Posted by jmoe20 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Good post jmoe- I almost....wait....**sniff sniff.....
I love people that spend time in their day just to sit on this thread and whine about lost money. Worst yet- you are whinning about some elses lost money.
What do you do for fun? Sit in group therapy sessions so you can feel sympathy for battered husbands?
I for one don't sit here and try to defend a stock that is absolutely worthless, and still beleive a fairy tale... hey maybe you will make $7,000,000 on this and get a 25 for 1 split!!!!!
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Did I say Baptist? I meant Our Mother of Mary.
You "my friend are an idiot" imho
Posted by RichBy26 on :
sorry Jo I would, but I don't need to see the pics. Whoever wants proof by seeing pics can do it themself. That is useless DD in my book...
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
I would think after the E-mail contact from James Gee ( chairman of shareholder committee) on yesterday that HE would be next in line with information on what is transpiring since there are no stepdowns from Rufus at this time..
James was talking to Rufus on SPR the other night with discussions on what the next steps are needed. If someone has his E-mail address or phone number, ask him what his conversation with Rufus was yesterday. I'm sure he has a word or 2 on the content. You guys have been here longer than I have, so make the contact with him and get back to us. That is what the committee is for at this time. Let's use it as a combined shareholder update.
Get back to us as soon as you know something ( bad or good) or we can send out a blanket E-mail. Does not matter to me and I'm sure many of the other shareholders as well. We need something to carry on this weekend while the information stream is directed to just this latest episode last night.
Posted by thedoctor on :
Repo ... I just don't understand what these people are trying to do. A lot of us are in great danger of losing thousands and thousands of dollars and they are here continuously throwing digs at what we are trying to do (get our money back or to grow). We know that it doesn't look good ..... but what the hell are they doing here. They are like punks. Being from New Jersey or the New York area, you know how that is looked at and frowned upon. Its just wrong to keep jabbing like they are.
Posted by mo-rydr on :
I think all of the dedicated members are currently doing some diligent DD. Remember most of the regulars here are good, intelligent people.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
I agree with you .... The only basher type I don't mind is Repo (he has more class than the others). This thread has to take on a differant approach. People who don't have an interested investment should get the f*ck out of here. They are the same type that cheer when someone is diagnosed with cancer. Let's check with glassman to see how to get them banned. This crap has been going on for a couple of days now and good people are leaving. Now joking that Rufus is in the hospital with his mother at his bedside. It has to stop. I'll see what can be done.
YOu just showed your class with your language skills. You have no right pass judgement on "class" about folks. We are merely discussing and have not made you lose money. Money has already been lost...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Repo ... I just don't understand what these people are trying to do. A lot of us are in great danger of losing thousands and thousands of dollars and they are here continuously throwing digs at what we are trying to do (get our money back or to grow). We know that it doesn't look good ..... but what the hell are they doing here. They are like punks. Being from New Jersey or the New York area, you know how that is looked at and frowned upon. Its just wrong to keep jabbing like they are.
Tru dat.. usually leads to a beatdown, Goodfellas style "Go get your shine box!"
Posted by frank021474 on :
jmoe- I don't mind an objective view from the other side of the fence at this stock but the incessant whining and complaining that you didn't get your billions promised by CSHD and Rufus said your dogs ugly etc. etc. just gets old.
Least Repo cracks me up with his pics and TexasMoney is funny as chit! Put a spin on your downerisms.
Everyone still sitting on this stock is obviously sitting in a position where they KNOW they can lose it all or collect a payday. Most of us have covered ourselves $$
You are NOT the voice of reason. Save your woes for another group and move on. If you spend one hour on this thread it seems its an unecessary hour of your life wasted on something that does you no good.
I am in a position where losing is worth it. I am waiting until I start seeing official answers and PR's from the company. Until then- no reason to think the sky is falling.
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
I agree with you .... The only basher type I don't mind is Repo (he has more class than the others). This thread has to take on a differant approach. People who don't have an interested investment should get the f*ck out of here. They are the same type that cheer when someone is diagnosed with cancer. Let's check with glassman to see how to get them banned. This crap has been going on for a couple of days now and good people are leaving. Now joking that Rufus is in the hospital with his mother at his bedside. It has to stop. I'll see what can be done.
YOu just showed your class with your language skills. You have no right pass judgement on "class" about folks. We are merely discussing and have not made you lose money. Money has already been lost...
Doesn't even deserve a reply. You must consider yourself one of the bashers.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: This thread is now officially useless...
My DD is now reserved for the few I PM here.
I agree with you .... The only basher type I don't mind is Repo (he has more class than the others). This thread has to take on a differant approach. People who don't have an interested investment should get the f*ck out of here. They are the same type that cheer when someone is diagnosed with cancer. Let's check with glassman to see how to get them banned. This crap has been going on for a couple of days now and good people are leaving. Now joking that Rufus is in the hospital with his mother at his bedside. It has to stop. I'll see what can be done.
YOu just showed your class with your language skills. You have no right pass judgement on "class" about folks. We are merely discussing and have not made you lose money. Money has already been lost...
now now, calm down, you do not know docs class status, so the remark you just made shows ignorance, c'mon this does not need to go on in this thread, stick with facts.... no harm done yet, but please, stop the personal attacks.. Posted by frank021474 on :
Good point Driver- I might have gotten a little annoyed. Going to time out (Means make a sandwich downstairs and watch some tv).
Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote: sorry Jo I would, but I don't need to see the pics. Whoever wants proof by seeing pics can do it themself. That is useless DD in my book...
That was a joke, Richby26, cause you had the time to call every hospital in Kenneshaw looking for Rufus.
Jo
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Jenna - Your mailbox is full.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Can someone please tell me when the 10q is now due? Is it the 20th or 22nd? I have heard both. Thank you.
Posted by 6digits on :
It looks like you sit here spending your time on your nightmares instead.
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Good post jmoe- I almost....wait....**sniff sniff.....
I love people that spend time in their day just to sit on this thread and whine about lost money. Worst yet- you are whinning about some elses lost money.
What do you do for fun? Sit in group therapy sessions so you can feel sympathy for battered husbands?
I for one don't sit here and try to defend a stock that is absolutely worthless, and still beleive a fairy tale... hey maybe you will make $7,000,000 on this and get a 25 for 1 split!!!!!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Can someone please tell me when the 10q is now due? Is it the 20th or 22nd? I have heard both. Thank you.
10-q due on the 20th.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote: sorry Jo I would, but I don't need to see the pics. Whoever wants proof by seeing pics can do it themself. That is useless DD in my book...
That was a joke, Richby26, cause you had the time to call every hospital in Kenneshaw looking for Rufus.
Jo
I should have gone golfing today, I can't seem to take a joke LOL
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Thank you driver. Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Can someone please tell me when the 10q is now due? Is it the 20th or 22nd? I have heard both. Thank you.
10-q due on the 20th.
I believe that since we are trading on grey sheets there are no filing limits/time frame. at this point it`s due when/if they decide to release it, PLEASE correct me if i am wrong!
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't no the answer to that. It's been back and forth what the requirement is. It seems like Rufus could have thrown that out the other night on SPR.
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Can someone please tell me when the 10q is now due? Is it the 20th or 22nd? I have heard both. Thank you.
10-q due on the 20th.
I believe that since we are trading on grey sheets there are no filing limits/time frame. at this point it`s due when/if they decide to release it, PLEASE correct me if i am wrong!
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
You could hear a pin drop
Posted by new2stocks on :
ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
This is a residence...but is this where Rufus lives? Where is the ranch? Anyone know?
Posted by Doniboy on :
we just hit .20 for the first time since July 17th.
Posted by 6digits on :
Someone drive out to the ranch and flip over Rufus's hammock. Let's roll.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
This is a residence...but is this where Rufus lives? Where is the ranch? Anyone know?
bump
Posted by Doniboy on :
Repo, your stock is doing amazing.
Now Go Get Your Shine Box!!!!!
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hey Jenna, did you notice that alot of our regulars don't post anymore? Do you think the source of our problem is all the bickering from people that are trying to save us? Hope all is well with you and your family. MOMMA
I thought I should re-post this , not to stir up trouble, but to ask our family of regulars , to please not let "them" make you leave this board.I am guilty of responding a few times to"them". Lets all try to ignore "them" and go back to the board we were all happy to be on.
Posted by 6digits on :
It looks like it's possibly in the bottom of the map photo.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
This is a residence...but is this where Rufus lives? Where is the ranch? Anyone know?
Posted by 10of13 on :
New2? Rufus's Mom's place?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I'm still long with 2500 shares. More than some and less than some others have but I STILL HAVE IT. I have flipped it a few times to make some quick cash also. In the long run I want good things to happen.
At this point I'll ride it to $0$ or until the mess gets fixed which I think will be soon!
As of now I don't see anything to prove to me that we are in any serious trouble. I'm not blinded by blind faith and I don't know any inside information but with all the DD done by others and myself, all those FACTS have not suddenly gone away.
Let the SEC do whatever they want. CSHD still has the bonds, AISS, Equine Solutions, etc.
Time is on our side in my opinion and like everyone else I want it now but understand Rome wasn't built in a day.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Spooky were you there?
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Spooky were you there?
No, it would have been a long drive from Denver Posted by RichBy26 on :
Not sure New2, what I do know is he is no dummy. It looks like he put his house in a Land Trust, which protects the identity of the real owners. The only thing you will be able to find is who signed the Trust (the Trustee) and I can guarantee you it is not Rufus or anyone in his family. If you try and find the Trustee who signed the Trust they will just transfer the Land Trust to another Trustee, thus making it an impossible cat and mouse chase.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: New2? Rufus's Mom's place?
But why would a legal document be delivered there? It said that it was left at defendant's dwelling or usual place of abode. ??
Posted by CRab on :
Posted by new2stocks on :
Maybe 6, but that looks like a completely different residence to me. Plus Spooky said that the address for the BBQ was different. So I don't know.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: It looks like it's possibly in the bottom of the map photo.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
This is a residence...but is this where Rufus lives? Where is the ranch? Anyone know?
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: It's very possible he doesn't live at the Ranch folks. They are only about twelve, thirteen miles apart...
Hmm that is possible. 18 miles per mapquest.
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya I don't think its next door. The street name is'nt there either.
Posted by Spooky on :
FWIW I do not believe the BBQ happened at his home.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Maybe 6, but that looks like a completely different residence to me. Plus Spooky said that the address for the BBQ was different. So I don't know.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: It looks like it's possibly in the bottom of the map photo.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ok guys, I got a little curious and here is what I did. On the document that was served to Rufus' home and was signed by his daughter, there was an address on the top under Rufus' name. So I did a reverse search on the address on it came back as Atlewa Trust with the same address. So I got more curious and did a Google Earth search on the address this is what came up ....
This is a residence...but is this where Rufus lives? Where is the ranch? Anyone know?
we should send someone out in the field...it looks like we are running an operation, we got google land photos, shall we plan an intervention
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: FWIW I do not believe the BBQ happened at his home.
I see, I thought he lived on the ranch. Speculation on my part.
Posted by milliam on :
First off, I went to the BBQ...everything that was reported about that was real (everything that I saw that was reported at least).
The BBQ was at his horse ranch. BTW, he leases that. The ranch is in Kingston not too far from Adairsville. I don't think they live there, but there is a little living place built into the stables (its pretty nice).
I'm going to look into the Adairsville address a bit more, later today. I'd love to stop by there, but its on the opposite side of town from me.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Not sure New2, what I do know is he is no dummy. It looks like he put his house in a Land Trust, which protects the identity of the real owners. The only thing you will be able to find is who signed the Trust (the Trustee) and I can guarantee you it is not Rufus or anyone in his family. If you try and find the Trustee who signed the Trust they will just transfer the Land Trust to another Trustee, thus making it an impossible cat and mouse chase.
In simple terms, that is probably his house. Normal people do not put their homes is Land Trusts.
Posted by 6digits on :
Stockstar69, I feel your pain. In spite of what color people are painting this I keep reminding myself that Rufus said the other night that he was in the process of speaking to an MM to trade on the OTCBB, he's pulling down funds from one of the bonds immediately (a 3 to 5 day process), and he will be releasing PR's soon. To me he has to be an idiot to let the business plan fall to the ground after spending the years that he has claimed planning this biz and the assets available and JV's they have eluded too, etc,.. If he does screw up going public with this I hope he at least succeeds at buying back our shares at $15 AS HE HAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I'm still long with 2500 shares. More than some and less than some others have but I STILL HAVE IT. I have flipped it a few times to make some quick cash also. In the long run I want good things to happen.
At this point I'll ride it to $0$ or until the mess gets fixed which I think will be soon!
As of now I don't see anything to prove to me that we are in any serious trouble. I'm not blinded by blind faith and I don't know any inside information but with all the DD done by others and myself, all those FACTS have not suddenly gone away.
Let the SEC do whatever they want. CSHD still has the bonds, AISS, Equine Solutions, etc.
Time is on our side in my opinion and like everyone else I want it now but understand Rome wasn't built in a day.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
well the website is updated with Rufus as ceo. I just wonder if this is a scam. Then Rufus would know it. Why in the world would he step up and take over the CEO's position again. I don't believe he had any obligation to do so. It just doesn't seem like anyone would do that unless there is real value to the company. I don't know just thinking out loud. IMO
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: well the website is updated with Rufus as ceo. I just wonder if this is a scam. Then Rufus would know it. Why in the world would he step up and take over the CEO's position again. I don't believe he had any obligation to do so. It just doesn't seem like anyone would do that unless there is real value to the company. I don't know just thinking out loud. IMO
One has to wonder. Thats all thats left
I surely wouldn't ask to reboard a sinking myself.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: First off, I went to the BBQ...everything that was reported about that was real (everything that I saw that was reported at least).
The BBQ was at his horse ranch. BTW, he leases that. The ranch is in Kingston not too far from Adairsville. I don't think they live there, but there is a little living place built into the stables (its pretty nice).
I'm going to look into the Adairsville address a bit more, later today. I'd love to stop by there, but its on the opposite side of town from me.
Thanks Milliam!
Posted by Goodones on :
I would rather watch my shares burn than sell them now. Everything will work out soon IMO.
Posted by 6digits on :
Milliam, can you swing by the ranch and tell Rufus that 6 digits wants him to have proper representation for the court for the sake of the shareholders and flip him out of his hammock and tell him 6 digits said to do it, please thanks in advance.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Jenna - Your mailbox is full.
It's cleared out now....
Posted by 6digits on :
You would think so would'nt you. I noticed most of the bashers say things mostly without any basis for it. I wonder if they all work for the SEC?
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: well the website is updated with Rufus as ceo. I just wonder if this is a scam. Then Rufus would know it. Why in the world would he step up and take over the CEO's position again. I don't believe he had any obligation to do so. It just doesn't seem like anyone would do that unless there is real value to the company. I don't know just thinking out loud. IMO
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Out of all the things he has to do in the next not so many hours. You would think that updating the site would be one of them.
There is a domino effect if he doesn't get to filing.
-Answer the Motion for default. -Answer the complaint. -SEC File the BOD change in an 8K. -SEC File the 10Q before the end of the extension.
Any one of these gets missed and he might as well turn off the web site.
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: well the website is updated with Rufus as ceo. I just wonder if this is a scam. Then Rufus would know it. Why in the world would he step up and take over the CEO's position again. I don't believe he had any obligation to do so. It just doesn't seem like anyone would do that unless there is real value to the company. I don't know just thinking out loud. IMO
Posted by Doniboy on :
Anyone stll care what Tut says?
Shareholders stand strong. I belieive we will come out of this the way it should have been. As soon as we are off the greys the market can get back in shape the way it should be and I expect that should be at any time now. Rufus is working on getting everything in order but you have to remember that he just resumed his position as CEO again and I believe he has his hands full on such short notice. We should be back in shape after this week is over and then everything can begin to move forward and Rufus made that clear on Tuesday.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Looks like he thought updated the website should be first on the list.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Out of all the things he has to do in the next not so many hours. You would think that updating the site would be one of them.
There is a domino effect if he doesn't get to filing.
-Answer the Motion for default. -Answer the complaint. -SEC File the BOD change in an 8K. -SEC File the 10Q before the end of the extension.
Any one of these gets missed and he might as well turn off the web site.
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: well the website is updated with Rufus as ceo. I just wonder if this is a scam. Then Rufus would know it. Why in the world would he step up and take over the CEO's position again. I don't believe he had any obligation to do so. It just doesn't seem like anyone would do that unless there is real value to the company. I don't know just thinking out loud. IMO
Posted by Jenna on :
Very True Tax, Very True!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Milliam, can you swing by the ranch and tell Rufus that 6 digits wants him to have proper representation for the court for the sake of the shareholders and flip him out of his hammock and tell him 6 digits said to do it, please thanks in advance.
While you are there , kick him in the nut sack for "thesource" and tell him we are even .
Posted by Doniboy on :
Also this:
Originally Posted by CaliRaven Sorry Tut, but you have been saying soon, tommorrow and next week for quite a while now. If it was really short notice for Rufus coming back on board as CEO then that BEGS the question again, why did MA step down and if Rufus truly knew this was going to happen then why wasn't he prepared in advance? I for one would like to hear a DEFINITIVE and SPECIFIC answer or simply an admission that you just don't know. Either way such frank talk would be a breathe of fresh air. Your cookie cutter postings are doing it for me anymore.
There is only so much I can say. If I knew more, which I am not saying I do because I am not an insider, I would not be able to say more. I also have to stay within the law. You will get your definitive answer when news is made public through the proper channels. Any other way would only hurt the company and the shareholders. You have done your due diligence I presume and you should either believe or not.
Posted by glassman on :
LOL...source..
that's not much for 7500$
Posted by TexasMoney on :
To clarify my point, the website is now updated - sans the JV section.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL...source..
that's not much for 7500$
Not really but I'll feel alot better for it .
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Maybe we can get Jesuspower1 to do something constructive like pass the collection plate for CSHD’s legal counsel.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Theres a lot of disheartened people here today. Hey..its only money...and we canonly go down .20 more cents anyway. Might as well can the maudlin crap and just enjoy the trip Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Regarding the web site...Remember, the web site is the public face of the company. If you were not a stockholder (and new nothing of the current situation with the SEC) but were interested in using CSHD in your own JV where would you look?
The website is imperative in keeping the public informed of CSHD ability to function. Without the web site the 1st line of sales is lost to perspective new customers.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I would think the csvu site is not a e-commerce business. The website is more for the shareholders.
You would think the business with the company and JV's etc.. is through contacts and relationships.
Not a lot of companies go searching for someone to fund them via google search engine.
My 2 cents-
Posted by thesource on :
Where the he!! is Sabra ? Why did they can her ? Why not bring her back ?
Thats the biggest reason I think this is scam . Her and Mitch found out the truth and were shown the door or took off running when Rufus stepped down .
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
at this point all we can do is sit back and see what happens and they have started updating the website
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Where the he!! is Sabra ? Why did they can her ? Why not bring her back ?
Thats the biggest reason I think this is scam . Her and Mitch found out the truth and were shown the door or took off running when Rufus stepped down .
Sorry but I agree wholeheartdly with this statement. Sabra was the only one on the team with a successful and non sketchy past. The moment she found out things weren't right she bailed as to not taint her reputation IMO
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Where the he!! is Sabra ? Why did they can her ? Why not bring her back ?
Thats the biggest reason I think this is scam . Her and Mitch found out the truth and were shown the door or took off running when Rufus stepped down .
Speculation. You have no idea about either of them- just like everyone else here.
Posted by djg7 on :
Rufus can always hire a Public Defender if he can't afford an attorney.
This is too stressful. Too many games at this point.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Rufus can always hire a Public Defender if he can't afford an attorney.
This is too stressful. Too many games at this point.
In a criminal case you are correct but so far this is a civil case and therefore no public defenders are available to him .
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Rufus can always hire a Public Defender if he can't afford an attorney.
This is too stressful. Too many games at this point.
question:
if Rufufus was running a pumpandump scam? why doesn't he have money for a lawyer?
come on folks... ask the CORRECT questions and you'll get the answers you need...
(no. i don't have the answers)
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: at this point all we can do is sit back and see what happens and they have started updating the website
Hey are you "Anthony" if you are it's a pleasure to have you here!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Where the he!! is Sabra ? Why did they can her ? Why not bring her back ?
Thats the biggest reason I think this is scam . Her and Mitch found out the truth and were shown the door or took off running when Rufus stepped down .
Sorry but I agree wholeheartdly with this statement. Sabra was the only one on the team with a successful and non sketchy past. The moment she found out things weren't right she bailed as to not taint her reputation IMO
Maybe there's more to the story- you never know....
She didn't seem like such a "sweetie pie" to me!!
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Why don't you all just take the easy route and get out of this stock, and take the safe 4.4% interest return from ingdirect.com ... This would give you greater gains than this thing... And the reason i keep coming back here is cause I enjoy reading everyone's posts and seeing the news of the stock, cause like everyone said this is a good movie, trilogy etc... so i'm not going anywhere, and whose to say that you can't post on this board if you don't own the stock... NO ONE. Posted by Jenna on :
What stock do you currently own now jmoe since you sold CSHD?, I'd like to visit that thread to see how many times you've posted over there....
Posted by Spooky on :
A little humor posted by CaptainSolo over at HSM.
quote:Q: Did you hear about the dyslexic Satanist? A: He sold his soul to Santa
Q: Did you hear about the guy that lost his left arm and leg in a car crash? A: He's all right now.
Q: How do crazy people go through the forest? A: They take the psycho path.
Q: How do you get holy water? A: Boil the hell out of it.
Q: How does a spoiled rich girl change a light bulb? A: She says, "Daddy, I want a new apartment.
Q: What did the fish say when he hit a concrete wall? A: Dam.
Q: What do Eskimos get from sitting on the ice too long? A: Polaroids.
Q: What do prisoners use to call each other? A: Cell phones.
Q: What do the letters D.N.A. stand for? A: National Dyslexics Association.
Q: What do you call a boomerang that doesn't work? A: A stick.
Q: What do you call cheese that isn't yours? A: Nacho Cheese.
Q: What do you call Santa's helpers? A: Subordinate Clauses.
Q: What do you call four bull fighters in quicksand? A: Quatro sinko.
Q: What do you get from a pampered cow? A: Spoiled milk.
Q: What do you get when you cross a snowman with a vampire? A: Frostbite.
Q: What do you get when you cross an elephant and a skin doctor? A: A pachydermatologist
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Why don't you all just take the easy route and get out of this stock, and take the safe 4.4% interest return from ingdirect.com ... This would give you greater gains than this thing... And the reason i keep coming back here is cause I enjoy reading everyone's posts and seeing the news of the stock, cause like everyone said this is a good movie, trilogy etc... so i'm not going anywhere, and whose to say that you can't post on this board if you don't own the stock... NO ONE.
You suggest the easy route but you yourself spend hours toiling in here over a stock you don't own (Or shouldn't own).
You should take the easy route and find a stock to buy and research. Not sit in here and bi+ch all day about this one.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
None cause i lost majority of my money in this pos... I'm still playing in penny land.. SEIH right now 100000 shares i bought in at .0008, if little Rufus didn't decide to lie to all of us i'd have much much more money to invest... I at one time was confident like all of you, until i lost a lot of my own money .. i bought in with the good news at $1.89 and sold at .55 cents Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: What stock do you currently own now jmoe since you sold CSHD?, I'd like to visit that thread to see how many times you've posted over there....
It doesn't look like he really posts on other threads on Allstocks.....
Posted by jmoe20 on :
My roommate is still in this stock, that's one main reason i'm here, and he does own a huge portion of it... he posts on this board all the time thecon00...
Posted by new2stocks on :
jmeo20, you posted on the SEIH thread that you owned 45,000 shares of that stock...which is it? 45,000 or 100,000?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: My roommate is still in this stock, that's one main reason i'm here, and he does own a huge portion of it... he posts on this board all the time thecon00...
Poor guy- does he ever get a wink of sleep with your constant bi+ching about CSHD?
I only have to be annoyed when I click refresh- that guys got you 24/7.
You probably have "RPH frauded me" PJ's you wear.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
May I recommend one stock? UNIVERSAL INSUR HLDG (OTC BB:UVIH.OB) …. They pay out .05 cent quarterly dividends and are a profitable company with the potential to be huge… What’s odd is its another otc bb holdings company, but they actually have true audited assets. Look to buy on a dip at 2.60-2.80 range you can always flip at 3.10-3.20 range or hold for the long term.
Posted by Jenna on :
Jmoe - What happened to you though? You weren't like this when you considered yourself a long- We understand your frustration with Rufus but you're trying to rub dirt in our face because we didn't sell at .55, can't you just have a little respect....? Really, you once were with us now you are acting like we were the ones that wronged you- sorry you feel that way - try to be a little more like your roommate who by the way has been doing some excellent DD lately & contribute instead of being so "in your face" about it , that's all we're saying...
Posted by frank021474 on :
If your advice is as good as your time management skills no thanks.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: None cause i lost majority of my money in this pos... I'm still playing in penny land.. SEIH right now 100000 shares i bought in at .0008, if little Rufus didn't decide to lie to all of us i'd have much much more money to invest... I at one time was confident like all of you, until i lost a lot of my own money .. i bought in with the good news at $1.89 and sold at .55 cents
It's your responsibility to DD any stock you get into. Trying to lay blame on others including the ceo for your lack of doing that doesn't excuse you from it. It just points out how foolish you are with your money.
Posted by Spooky on :
Hey, is the cvsu.us website down for anyone else right now? I can't get it to load.
Posted by frank021474 on :
works for me spooky
Posted by jmoe20 on :
i bought more on the dip today new2. they got moved to the pinks
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
they updated the site
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: works for me spooky
Yeah, I just got it to load too. Couldn't for about 10 minutes before that though.
Posted by Jenna on :
I don't remember this current subsidary, do you? And also what happened to the Investor relations email address on the website?
Tserof Holdings Inc
Posted by frank021474 on :
maybe that stock will tank and you will find a new thread to sit and complain at.
Posted by TimW on :
One change is investor relations email has changed to harris*cshd.us ... cshd.us is a domain under construction.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Did 3403 get banned?
Posted by frank021474 on :
Nice they have a subscribe mail list now. I signed up a spam account to see what starts coming into my inbox.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Jenna, sorry i didn't mean it like that nor do i mean to blame anyone in here for what happened. I'm just extremely frustrated with the fact that everything was so good in this stock a couple of weeks ago, and Rufus did some things that good have been easily avoided if he used "time management" skills like Frank continues to reference. Frank your getting quite repetitive with your statements lately to me much like you say I am being, so stop being hypocritical. Anyways, I just really think that this will be trading at .0001 in the future and that the potential you have to salvage some of your money now might be ruined... I'm sure even if a lot of you sold at this range you would at least get some useable money back from the return that's all. I'm just so frustrated... I owned enough shares and believed in this stock so much that I was thinking that I would possibly not ever have to work again.. and when all that fell through and the court case came is when I started becoming negative.... sorry though if i made you and others feel that way.
Posted by Jenna on :
Frank - I signed up a while ago & I have never recieved anything....
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Jenna, sorry i didn't mean it like that nor do i mean to blame anyone in here for what happened. I'm just extremely frustrated with the fact that everything was so good in this stock a couple of weeks ago, and Rufus did some things that good have been easily avoided if he used "time management" skills like Frank continues to reference. Frank your getting quite repetitive with your statements lately to me much like you say I am being, so stop being hypocritical. Anyways, I just really think that this will be trading at .0001 in the future and that the potential you have to salvage some of your money now might be ruined... I'm sure even if a lot of you sold at this range you would at least get some useable money back from the return that's all. I'm just so frustrated... I owned enough shares and believed in this stock so much that I was thinking that I would possibly not ever have to work again.. and when all that fell through and the court case came is when I started becoming negative.... sorry though if i made you and others feel that way.
Jmoe- if you notice I repeat myself its because you are constantly singing the same sad country song.
Get over it and go check out some new stocks to make some money. I just don't get your point to posting so many times here.
Maybe just make a once a day guest appearance to complain- but all day??? Come on.
Posted by luvforever on :
oh my gosh!18 cents!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Posted by frank021474 on :
Guess they need to update the welcome aboard letter Jenna- its from "alexander*cvsu"
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: oh my gosh!18 cents!!!!!!!!!! LOL
HMMM, must be filling the gap from last july..
Posted by Jenna on :
Jmoe- I totally understand & I'm sure we have all thought about what the best thing to do is....& most of us think we've came this far & it may be close to the end but it ain't over just yet...so we're "letting it ride"....I hope to high heaven that in a few months you look & in your account & BAM! there's your 6:1..... but we really do understand your frustration - you have every right to feel that way but PLEASE - just watch how you say things you used to be in this boat with us- sure this boat is sinking at the moment but don't point & laugh 'cause it ain't over yet...I wish you luck & by the way Frank's a good guy you just hit a couple of nerves so I want you to hug him & make up....-just be a good boy OK? Posted by frank021474 on :
I don't do hugs jenna- high 5's maybe
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Guess they need to update the welcome aboard letter Jenna- its from "alexander*cvsu"
You know what I bet mine never went through then because I never got that!!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I don't do hugs jenna- high 5's maybe
I bet you hug "certain" people....
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL maybe- but not jmoe. He gets a high-5
Posted by Jenna on :
See JMoe - I told you Frank's a good guy!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Lame! The main office number listed on the website has been disconnected.
Phone: 770-420-8270
Very comforting! Posted by frank021474 on :
pm jenna
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Lame! The main office number listed on the website has been disconnected.
Phone: 770-420-8270
Very comforting!
Anyone have it written down separate from the site? Perhaps its fat-fingered on the webpage after the update today.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Lame! The main office number listed on the website has been disconnected.
Phone: 770-420-8270
Very comforting!
did anyone ever check it to see if it was still working after they moved corporate offices to texas?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Better pass the collection plate for CSHD phone service as well as legal counsel. This stock is getting expensive! Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL TM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Lame! The main office number listed on the website has been disconnected.
Phone: 770-420-8270
Very comforting!
did anyone ever check it to see if it was still working after they moved corporate offices to texas?
that's the number, I have it in my phone. To the best of my knowledge they were keeping the office in GA, maybe we will get an update from the company...
Posted by 6digits on :
Frank i'm with you, he is out there.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Why don't you all just take the easy route and get out of this stock, and take the safe 4.4% interest return from ingdirect.com ... This would give you greater gains than this thing... And the reason i keep coming back here is cause I enjoy reading everyone's posts and seeing the news of the stock, cause like everyone said this is a good movie, trilogy etc... so i'm not going anywhere, and whose to say that you can't post on this board if you don't own the stock... NO ONE.
You suggest the easy route but you yourself spend hours toiling in here over a stock you don't own (Or shouldn't own).
You should take the easy route and find a stock to buy and research. Not sit in here and bi+ch all day about this one.
Posted by TimW on :
LOL
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: oh my gosh!18 cents!!!!!!!!!! LOL
HMMM, must be filling the gap from last july..
the gap was at .135-.14 ... and i must say wow... 12 pages of crap since yesterday that i skimmed through... nothing with any substance... and ppl wondered why wallymac took off... pfffff
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, things sure are all ruffled up in here today eh?
Im headed out of town for the weekend, no access to a PC until Sunday. Thats fine though, ill just print out 4 pages of this read it over and over....its just like being here. LOL
Good to see that the longs are holding firm regardless of the pointless banter im seeing from a few undesireables.
Should be a good game tomorrow, which reminds me...even if youre not or never were a Michigan fan...say a short prayer for the family and friends of Bo (Glen) Schembechler. Possibly one of the most beloved collegiate level football coaches ever. He passed away earlier today (1929-2006)
Time for me to go pack. Have a great weekend folks....especially those longs that have stuck together through thick and thin. You all know who you are.
And to the rest of ya...stick it, you know who you are too. Posted by frank021474 on :
Perhaps the office is no longer moving to TX? They will swap it back to Ga.
Nothing would suprise me at this point.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: ....Im headed out of town for the weekend, no access to a PC until Sunday. Thats fine though, ill just print out 4 pages of this read it over and over....its just like being here.....
Quote of the day!
Posted by 6digits on :
P you have to read between the lines!!
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: oh my gosh!18 cents!!!!!!!!!! LOL
HMMM, must be filling the gap from last july..
the gap was at .135-.14 ... and i must say wow... 12 pages of crap since yesterday that i skimmed through... nothing with any substance... and ppl wondered why wallymac took off... pfffff
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Do you think the colonized the moon already and moved headquarters there? Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Lame! The main office number listed on the website has been disconnected.
Phone: 770-420-8270
Very comforting!
did anyone ever check it to see if it was still working after they moved corporate offices to texas?
that's the number, I have it in my phone. To the best of my knowledge they were keeping the office in GA, maybe we will get an update from the company...
Mike A. moved the office to lake dallas, and the contact number as well. He did not keep the office in ga. Whether Rufus kept it and intends to use it again remains to be seen.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Do you think the colonized the moon already and moved headquarters there?
HAHAHHA DDDAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM TM- you are on a roll today mah friend!
I think they ran into klingons on uranus.
Posted by 6digits on :
Rufus said his office is actually out at the ranch where he handles business. He did give his new number in the last PR....give him a buzz if you like talking to voicemail. I did twice today. 1-678-758-3010.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Sorry everyone- I think that due to lack of events on this train running 2mph across country a little steam and humor is definately what keeps me sane.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Sorry i didn't get back... i actually had to do some work, and i'm in my office all day long, so when i get the chance to flip on here and say something i do. High 5 to you sir... Sorry for all the "negative" comments, i'm really a good guy just frustrated that's all! Thecon and I have a football game tonight so wish us the best of luck!
Posted by Jenna on :
Well, maybe we should all go grab some coffee at CVSU coffe shop * the Walmart in Texas....
Posted by jmoe20 on :
We are in CT, actually someone got shot trying to get a ps3 around here... pretty sad that people go to the ultimate extremes.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Sorry i didn't get back... i actually had to do some work, and i'm in my office all day long, so when i get the chance to flip on here and say something i do. High 5 to you sir... Sorry for all the "negative" comments, i'm really a good guy just frustrated that's all! Thecon and I have a football game tonight so wish us the best of luck!
AAAWW, see we can get along- now you got out your frustrations and now maybe we can grab a Brittnam Brother's CD, go get some coffee at the CVSU coffee shop & take a trip to the moon together... sound good?
Posted by 6digits on :
I don't think the JV section has been updated yet, it's still the same. I think the brittenum brothers are in an old folks home now and most of Rufus horses are just old mares. Posted by TexasMoney on :
It's actually a few miles away from my house in Plano. I'll stop by and take some pictures for you all.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Well, maybe we should all go grab some coffee at CVSU coffe shop * the Walmart in Texas....
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Sounds good jenna.. Posted by 6digits on :
Thanks TM. We'll be waiting.
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Do you think the colonized the moon already and moved headquarters there?
HAHAHHA DDDAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM TM- you are on a roll today mah friend!
I think they ran into klingons on uranus.
Do they have phones on the moon?? anyone know??
Posted by Jenna on :
Listen, TexasMoney seriously there is something for us to DD- someone said that they called that Walmart & asked about the coffee shop & it had a different name....does that make sense? I don't know if it does or not- can we find out what the name of it is? The website says CVSU coffee shop...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't care if he is operating out of a bunker in Pakistan. He had better stick his head out and tell us something soon. This is more than frustrating.
Posted by 6digits on :
atthebank, sure they do moonrizon.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Let me get the kid cleaned up and we'll make a trip there. I'll update you all in a few hours.
Someone give me the address or Wal-Mart store number again please.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Listen, TexasMoney seriously there is something for us to DD- someone said that they called that Walmart & asked about the coffee shop & it had a different name....does that make sense? I don't know if it does or not- can we find out what the name of it is? The website says CVSU coffee shop...
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: atthebank, sure they do moonrizon.
hhahahahh
Posted by 6digits on :
Seriously-I don't think the JV section has been updated yet, it's still the same.
Jokingly-I think the brittenum brothers are in an old folks home now and most of Rufus horses are just old mares.
Posted by Jenna on :
New2- Do you know anything about that Walmart where the coffee shop is? What town is it in so I can find the phone number?
Posted by 6digits on :
OUCH with the PPS already. It looks like a lot of weak hands still dumping today at low prices.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I don't care if he is operating out of a bunker in Pakistan. He had better stick his head out and tell us something soon. This is more than frustrating.
That seems to be unusual coming from you, Tax...but I am in 100% agreement. The only thing giving me any comfort is the other 4,199 times we have been impatiently waiting and got what we needed...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: New2- Do you know anything about that Walmart where the coffee shop is? What town is it in so I can find the phone number?
I'll see what I can dig up.
Posted by Doniboy on :
.22 Posted by Jenna on :
Thank New2
Posted by TimW on :
I was under the impression that CVSU Cofee was essentially "calleo dba kicks, aka "Calleo Gourmet Coffee"
Posted by St. Matthew on :
LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
I would be interested in asking RPH about the CVSU Coffee shop. Find out what the status of it is before we send reconnaissance out on it.
Could be something in development?
Digging is fun- but before you get dirty find out what you are looking for and determine what sucess is.
-2cents
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I wonder if they will put a coffee shop on the moon? Starbucks isn't there yet....(are they?).
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Is this thing really in Plano? It's the suburb just north of me. If it's really where they are located, I can check it out this weekend. Let me know.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: New2- Do you know anything about that Walmart where the coffee shop is? What town is it in so I can find the phone number?
Posted by ruthie on :
Have a good weekend all!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Exactly St Matt-
Its one thing to hear him complaining and whining about this stock. Last thing I want to do is go in on another stock with him so that he then thinks we have something in common.
THEN the stock tanks and somehow I have a new drinkin buddy????
yesh-
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
Sells at .18 electric bill must be due for somebody.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Now it's really a BUY BUY BUY. No negative news today, right?
We would all be feeling pretty stupid Monday afternoon when this is back up to $2.00 per share and we have market makers and the SEC has dropped their case and and and and and and and and (and to the moon).
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I don't care if he is operating out of a bunker in Pakistan. He had better stick his head out and tell us something soon. This is more than frustrating.
That seems to be unusual coming from you, Tax...but I am in 100% agreement. The only thing giving me any comfort is the other 4,199 times we have been impatiently waiting and got what we needed...
SherriT ~ I have watched good companies get caught in the "domino" effect and collapse before. It is important to move quickly with damage control... I do not see any movement. A company that would put out PRs two at a time a few weeks ago is quiet as a mouse durring crunch time.
I am not going to hurt if this thing goes under but it is frustrating to be completely confident of the bonds. Yet have the company lose a court case because of a Default action.
Like I said... it is beyond frustrating. Posted by Jenna on :
Tax - check your PM's...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Maybe we should muddy the waters of his thread just like he does to ours...if done correctly...perhaps we could come to an agreement.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Exactly St Matt-
Its one thing to hear him complaining and whining about this stock. Last thing I want to do is go in on another stock with him so that he then thinks we have something in common.
THEN the stock tanks and somehow I have a new drinkin buddy????
yesh-
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: I was under the impression that CVSU Cofee was essentially "calleo dba kicks, aka "Calleo Gourmet Coffee"
oops i meant
Calleo Gourmet Coffee, dba Kicks Coffee Cafe
Cant find much on it though.
Posted by wv1973 on :
"Say goodnight, Gracie," to which Allen would obligingly turn to their audience and fondly bid them "goodnight."
"And good night, Mrs. Calabash--wherever you are!"
"That's all she wrote, the pencil broke."
Last person out, please turn out the lights. Thanks
Posted by Doniboy on :
Agree Tax. Rufus should have explanatory PR's if he still believes in his company. If he's given up then we are all burned already.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: I was under the impression that CVSU Cofee was essentially "calleo dba kicks, aka "Calleo Gourmet Coffee"
oops i meant
Calleo Gourmet Coffee, dba Kicks Coffee Cafe
Cant find much on it though.
Thanks Tim, appreciate you looking- so that's the real name? How do you know who owns it?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Does anyone know anything official about the default status?
I read earlier smething about the extension being filed with the court but through the clerk and not the judge. I would think in a civil case that should be OK as long as the CSHD rep that filed it or the paperwork itself has some kind of timestamp from the court indicating it was there (somewhere) on time!
Posted by Doniboy on :
Shouldn't we have an 8K before tomorrow?
Posted by sceptor on :
The disconnected number on cvsu.us has been changed now. Seems they are slowly bringing the site up to date.
Posted by TimW on :
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Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Does anyone know anything official about the default status?
I read earlier smething about the extension being filed with the court but through the clerk and not the judge. I would think in a civil case that should be OK as long as the CSHD rep that filed it or the paperwork itself has some kind of timestamp from the court indicating it was there (somewhere) on time!
there has been no extension filed. they have until 12/4 to file a motion to have the judge to put aside the sec's motioan for default.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
the website has been fully updated now check and see
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Shouldn't we have an 8K before tomorrow?
I think the NT10-Q happened and then the CEO change later that night... Both have a deadline of 5 business days. So the 8K for the CEO change is due by 5:30PM EST Monday, and the 10Q is due by midnight on Monday.
IMO...IHDSTP (if he doesn't screw the pooch) LOL!!
Come on Rufus react buddy! react... soon.
Posted by TimW on :
As we say back home Rufus, sh* or get off the pot!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: I was under the impression that CVSU Cofee was essentially "calleo dba kicks, aka "Calleo Gourmet Coffee"
oops i meant
Calleo Gourmet Coffee, dba Kicks Coffee Cafe
Cant find much on it though.
Some info on the Coffee shop you speak of- Still trying to find the link between Ken Johnson and RPH. Anyone seen it in the past?
DALLAS -- Ever vigilant of its customer base, Wal-Mart is working with a coffee house operator to determine if a private partnership in certain markets can beat competitors' reliance on Starbucks.
The operators of San Diego-based Calleo Gourmet Coffees completely remodeled a 1,500-square-foot space near the front of a suburban Wal-Mart in Plano, Texas; that's where the Kicks Coffee Cafe operates. If all goes well, there are plans to brew more cafes at the retailer's supercenters in the Dallas-Fort Worth area this year, according to Ken Johnson, chief executive officer of Calleo.
"It's the Cadillac of coffee shops," he told SN.
Kicks' stylish, inviting atmosphere includes light wood tables and chairs that seat up to 40, a terra-cotta tile floor, plasma TVs and free Internet access. In keeping with Wal-Mart's core shopper, it aims to be a more affordable, family-friendly version of Starbucks.
"You have a diverse crowd shopping at Wal-Mart," Johnson told SN. "I talked to people in the supercenters who were very wealthy and the poorest of the poor."
What he learned was all Wal-Mart customers want good value for their
money. Coffee drinkers find it at the Plano store. There they pay $1.25 for a cup of coffee at Kicks, vs. $1.40 at Starbucks.
"Our pricing is 7% to 15% lower than Starbucks," said Johnson. "Wal-Mart's whole thing is you have to create a value proposition for their customers. You don't have to be 50% lower than Starbucks."
Kicks is situated in a well-to-do area with several Starbucks locations nearby, including one in the parking lot. Being near Starbucks was important, Johnson said. He noted that the presence of the powerful coffee concept indicated the community understood and appreciated premium coffee. In fact, employees at Kicks are encouraged to invite customers carrying Starbucks cups to try the Kicks coffee on the house.
"We've probably converted 30 to 35 customers who were stopping at Starbucks first," Johnson said. "Now, they come here. A lot of people don't like that dark [Starbucks] roast. For those people, we're a great alternative. We have more of a medium-to-dark roast."
Eleven associates -- employed by Calleo -- work at the cafe, serving customers the usual assortment of coffee beverages, eight flavors of fresh-fruit smoothies, Chai tea, bottled waters, fruit juices, sandwiches made on-site, ice cream sundaes and baked goods that include biscotti, cookies and cheesecakes. Recently, the store started offering Kicks-brand coffee beans, retailing for $4.50 to $7.35 a pound.
The cafe also runs orders out to customers shopping in the store. Calleo invested in cup holders for shopping carts, and they get a lot of use. Most shoppers purchase Kicks' beverages to drink while they shop. A smaller group of shoppers buys sandwiches or pastry items, and sits down for a real coffee break inside the cafe, Johnson said.
Johnson was an entrepreneur and business consultant with no food-service experience on his resume when he got involved in the coffee business. He and his partners formed Calleo with the intention of doing business with Wal-Mart. The retailing giant had been looking for a partner who understood the company's customers to introduce an in-store coffee shop. Wal-Mart's competitor, Target, had an agreement with Starbucks to operate coffee shops at selected locations.
Operating a coffee house has been enlightening for Johnson. Since the cafe opened, he's had to replace several of the beverage syrup vendors. The cafe also stopped outsourcing sandwiches. The four sandwich varieties are made fresh every day by Kicks' associates, and are displayed grab-and-go style. "They're a better sandwich," Johnson said.
White mocha lattes are the most popular espresso drink. Perhaps most surprising to Johnson, though, is the demand for fruit smoothies in the winter months. The fruit drinks represent nearly 20% of total sales.
"I was expecting smoothies to be at that level in the hotter months," he said.
Without elaborating on locations, Johnson said the company intends to expand to other Wal-Mart stores.
A Wal-Mart representative said the Kicks cafe is still being evaluated, and no decisions have been made regarding its future. "We test quietly at Wal-Mart, and listen to our customers," said spokeswoman Sharon Weber.
Posted by sceptor on :
all timelines for filings are in calendar days. the 10-q has 5 calendar days and the 8-k of rufus taking back the ceo has 4 calendar days. Both happen to fall on monday of next week.
Posted by jmoestinks on :
hello board, like many i have been long in this stock since the fhal days. i have read virtually every post made in the last 4 months. i respect alot of you who have put such time and effort into the dd. yes maybe it will go down like the titanic but i will hopefully be one of the few who jumps on a lifeboat. maybe i am stupid maybe not but i only play with money i can afford to lose so who cares. jmoe you inspired me to post. not because i follow you but because i like listening to idiots, it makes myself feel better. you are one of the most scared investors i have ever seen. you can't make the same comment twice because you get tangled in your own lies. you were such a go getter, now a whiner. you have looked in a mirror, peed your pants, and are now trying to save every other adult from looking at their wife/girlfriend with a wet mark on their khakis. if you play football maybe you should try betting on it and stay away from the past paced world of stocks. i don't feel sorry for anyone on this board because they make their own decisions, i do however feel bad for your roomate thecon who is apparently long in this stock. To live with a guy like you must be a real treat. i can only imagine what he has to put up with when a stock drops a bit. i hope you clean the bathroom and supply the poor guy with earplugs! have a nice day idiot.
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL DANG Harsh!
Posted by glassman on :
wow...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: all timelines for filings are in calendar days. the 10-q has 5 calendar days and the 8-k of rufus taking back the ceo has 4 calendar days. Both happen to fall on monday of next week.
Thanks Septor... I knew I looked at them in more depth before when they first came out, and they seemed to both add up to Monday... but at the time I was too busy trying to say that I hope they didn't wait too long, and screw around. Guess I should have known who I was talking about.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoestinks: hello board, like many i have been long in this stock since the fhal days. i have read virtually every post made in the last 4 months. i respect alot of you who have put such time and effort into the dd. yes maybe it will go down like the titanic but i will hopefully be one of the few who jumps on a lifeboat. maybe i am stupid maybe not but i only play with money i can afford to lose so who cares. jmoe you inspired me to post. not because i follow you but because i like listening to idiots, it makes myself feel better. you are one of the most scared investors i have ever seen. you can't make the same comment twice because you get tangled in your own lies. you were such a go getter, now a whiner. you have looked in a mirror, peed your pants, and are now trying to save every other adult from looking at their wife/girlfriend with a wet mark on their khakis. if you play football maybe you should try betting on it and stay away from the past paced world of stocks. i don't feel sorry for anyone on this board because they make their own decisions, i do however feel bad for your roomate thecon who is apparently long in this stock. To live with a guy like you must be a real treat. i can only imagine what he has to put up with when a stock drops a bit. i hope you clean the bathroom and supply the poor guy with earplugs! have a nice day idiot.
Least you didn't say his dog was ugly
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL just saw someone took away my stars! I wonder who- gggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: LOL just saw someone took away my stars! I wonder who- gggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee
just gave them back frank.. haha
Posted by frank021474 on :
I guess I have to stop being so abrasive when I get annoyed by people complaining Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Does anyone know anything official about the default status?
I read earlier smething about the extension being filed with the court but through the clerk and not the judge. I would think in a civil case that should be OK as long as the CSHD rep that filed it or the paperwork itself has some kind of timestamp from the court indicating it was there (somewhere) on time!
there has been no extension filed. they have until 12/4 to file a motion to have the judge to put aside the sec's motioan for default.
Thanks Sceptor! That is good news. Posted by Jenna on :
Jmoestinks - that is one of the funniest 1st posts I have ever seen....Welcome!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Maybe we should muddy the waters of his thread just like he does to ours...if done correctly...perhaps we could come to an agreement.
I'd rather see you go kick the $hit out of him like you were running your mouth last night .......... Posted by Jenna on :
Source - for some reason I like you....
Don't be mean to my Matty though.....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
KENNESAW, Ga., Nov 17, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces that an emergency shareholders meeting has been called and will be held in Washington, D.C. on December 17, 2006 (30 days from today). The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference.
Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM.
Each shareholder is hereby requested to go to the following website starting on Monday, November 20, 2006: www.cshdshareholdercommittee.com. A database will be set-up so each shareholder can update your mailing information for the corporate mailer. The corporation will cross reference the information provided against a current NOBO list.
CSHD would like announce the result of the last internal market investigation of reported shareholders vs. NOBO list; the number of documented shareholders above the reported NOBO exceed 800 and still counting.
Rufus Paul Harris, Chairman and CEO stated, "Very confusing events have taken place and I feel that it is necessary and very important to hold the annual meeting and discuss with every shareholder the forward movement of the corporation. I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend.
"I know the storm is strong and we may suffer some damage but we will still be standing strong at the end. I have worked long and hard to form and build this corporation, and I will not stand by and let illegal market activities prevent us from our goals. Our corporation is the model corporation and will be the beginning of a new market place. Be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too. I would also like to thank each and every one of you for your prayers in these trying times, and may GOD bless each of you."
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.
WOW- sounds like he's the company ain't goin' anywhere - but a trip to Washington DC? Is that a statement in itself or what?
Posted by Spooky on :
I'm gonna save this quote from a guy over on HSM.
quote:Originally Posted by qrq3p7 (and cleand up a bit by Spooky)
CSHD Long:
If it doesn't work out - I lost some money, came out of it a little wiser, learned alot, met some new e-friends, and take the experience to the next stock.
If it does work out - Well, do I really have to say anything here...
Basher, Naysayer & All Around Negative Person:
If it doesnt work out - I guess you would feel vindicated, but you couldn't feel good about it because you're incapable of positive feelings, you move on to the next stock and spew more negativity and live an overall pathetic existence.....
If it does work out - Well, do I really have to say anything here.....no....but I will. I guess you would feel screwed. You would feel bad about it but not a big deal for you because you are used to feeling that way, move on to the next stock and spew more negativity and live an overall pathetic existence.....
Everyone has choices to make, good or bad. You have no control over what happens but you can control what type of person you are and how you handle the good and bad....
Posted by SherriT on :
OK, so how exactly are we supposed to participate in the teleconference tomorrow? That info would have been helpful to have. The December meeting sounds more like a protest - thoughts anyone?
Posted by frank021474 on :
I have a house in DC- charging shareholders 50$ a night.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Regarding the web site...Remember, the web site is the public face of the company. If you were not a stockholder (and new nothing of the current situation with the SEC) but were interested in using CSHD in your own JV where would you look?
The website is imperative in keeping the public informed of CSHD ability to function. Without the web site the 1st line of sales is lost to perspective new customers.
my god how on earth did major corporations make thier billions before the internet!!! a web site means nothing if thier is no company behind it! and if ol RUFUS dont get off his azz the company is dead! somebody refresh my memory, what does the companies current buisness consist of? as far as i could see in the last filing there was no buisness! they had 1500 in the bank and 9 or 12 million in accounts receivable ( bond interest??? ) and some vague JV things that have not happened yet. oh and a coffee shop? maybe wallmart will buy it for 7 billion dollars!! updating the web site is NOT the highest priority here. IMO!!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK, so how exactly are we supposed to participate in the teleconference tomorrow? That info would have been helpful to have. The December meeting sounds more like a protest - thoughts anyone?
should be pr'd later i would think
Posted by frank021474 on :
Least hes doing Conf calls now instead of SPR! Its moving in the right direction Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I have a house in DC- charging shareholders 50$ a night.
Can I pay you in CSHD stock with the calculated 6 for 1? Posted by CRab on :
How many wanna bet Simon is he MC in DC, lol...
Posted by atthebank on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I have a house in DC- charging shareholders 50$ a night.
$.50 cents maybe, I'll sleep on the steps of the white house first
Posted by 6digits on :
We march on the capitol in Decmber.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM, who's the committee ??? is that us, or james.
Posted by 6digits on :
What time zone? Me wonders.
Posted by frank021474 on :
If you are registered with the shareholder committee you can probably expect an email coming with the details (including time etc..)
Hence the message in the PR to register.
Posted by 6digits on :
Sounds like Harris is declaring WAR! WAR? WAR!
Posted by Spooky on :
Like everyone else, I am curious of the venue that will be used for the Nov 18th teleconference. They have currently not provided instructions for us to attend, so one of two things are possible at this point.
1) They will reach out to us with that information sometime soon, by tomorrow at the latest.
or
2) We are not meant to attend, in which case we will hear about the outcome either here or on HSM after the meeting happens.
I expect option 1 will be the case.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: What time zone? Me wonders.
This conference better be good if I am taking time away from the Iron Bowl and the National Championship Posted by 6digits on :
I'll go to war if it will pay the bills and get the PPS up!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
That's not what I said...go re-read it. I never said WHAT I was going to kick. See there...you do have an agenda.
...and San Antonio is not that far away either.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Maybe we should muddy the waters of his thread just like he does to ours...if done correctly...perhaps we could come to an agreement.
I'd rather see you go kick the $hit out of him like you were running your mouth last night ..........
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If you are registered with the shareholder committee you can probably expect an email coming with the details (including time etc..)
Hence the message in the PR to register.
But notice, the PR also specifically mentioned registering on Monday the 20th when the teleconference is tomorrow the 18th....???
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If you are registered with the shareholder committee you can probably expect an email coming with the details (including time etc..)
Hence the message in the PR to register.
But notice, the PR also specifically mentioned registering on Monday the 20th when the teleconference is tomorrow the 18th....???
Regsitering monday the 20th is in regards to the december 17th meeting in DC.
November 18th is a seperate event.
I believe.
Posted by CRab on :
The PR also specifically says, "I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."...
So everyone just chill and give the man another day or two...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If you are registered with the shareholder committee you can probably expect an email coming with the details (including time etc..)
Hence the message in the PR to register.
But notice, the PR also specifically mentioned registering on Monday the 20th when the teleconference is tomorrow the 18th....???
Good point- we never get PR's right LOL
Posted by CRab on :
Chart PM's full...
You have a great weekend too man, ya'll have fun!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Nice work Frank...I will try to go by there this weekend.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: I was under the impression that CVSU Cofee was essentially "calleo dba kicks, aka "Calleo Gourmet Coffee"
oops i meant
Calleo Gourmet Coffee, dba Kicks Coffee Cafe
Cant find much on it though.
Some info on the Coffee shop you speak of- Still trying to find the link between Ken Johnson and RPH. Anyone seen it in the past?
DALLAS -- Ever vigilant of its customer base, Wal-Mart is working with a coffee house operator to determine if a private partnership in certain markets can beat competitors' reliance on Starbucks.
The operators of San Diego-based Calleo Gourmet Coffees completely remodeled a 1,500-square-foot space near the front of a suburban Wal-Mart in Plano, Texas; that's where the Kicks Coffee Cafe operates. If all goes well, there are plans to brew more cafes at the retailer's supercenters in the Dallas-Fort Worth area this year, according to Ken Johnson, chief executive officer of Calleo.
"It's the Cadillac of coffee shops," he told SN.
Kicks' stylish, inviting atmosphere includes light wood tables and chairs that seat up to 40, a terra-cotta tile floor, plasma TVs and free Internet access. In keeping with Wal-Mart's core shopper, it aims to be a more affordable, family-friendly version of Starbucks.
"You have a diverse crowd shopping at Wal-Mart," Johnson told SN. "I talked to people in the supercenters who were very wealthy and the poorest of the poor."
What he learned was all Wal-Mart customers want good value for their
money. Coffee drinkers find it at the Plano store. There they pay $1.25 for a cup of coffee at Kicks, vs. $1.40 at Starbucks.
"Our pricing is 7% to 15% lower than Starbucks," said Johnson. "Wal-Mart's whole thing is you have to create a value proposition for their customers. You don't have to be 50% lower than Starbucks."
Kicks is situated in a well-to-do area with several Starbucks locations nearby, including one in the parking lot. Being near Starbucks was important, Johnson said. He noted that the presence of the powerful coffee concept indicated the community understood and appreciated premium coffee. In fact, employees at Kicks are encouraged to invite customers carrying Starbucks cups to try the Kicks coffee on the house.
"We've probably converted 30 to 35 customers who were stopping at Starbucks first," Johnson said. "Now, they come here. A lot of people don't like that dark [Starbucks] roast. For those people, we're a great alternative. We have more of a medium-to-dark roast."
Eleven associates -- employed by Calleo -- work at the cafe, serving customers the usual assortment of coffee beverages, eight flavors of fresh-fruit smoothies, Chai tea, bottled waters, fruit juices, sandwiches made on-site, ice cream sundaes and baked goods that include biscotti, cookies and cheesecakes. Recently, the store started offering Kicks-brand coffee beans, retailing for $4.50 to $7.35 a pound.
The cafe also runs orders out to customers shopping in the store. Calleo invested in cup holders for shopping carts, and they get a lot of use. Most shoppers purchase Kicks' beverages to drink while they shop. A smaller group of shoppers buys sandwiches or pastry items, and sits down for a real coffee break inside the cafe, Johnson said.
Johnson was an entrepreneur and business consultant with no food-service experience on his resume when he got involved in the coffee business. He and his partners formed Calleo with the intention of doing business with Wal-Mart. The retailing giant had been looking for a partner who understood the company's customers to introduce an in-store coffee shop. Wal-Mart's competitor, Target, had an agreement with Starbucks to operate coffee shops at selected locations.
Operating a coffee house has been enlightening for Johnson. Since the cafe opened, he's had to replace several of the beverage syrup vendors. The cafe also stopped outsourcing sandwiches. The four sandwich varieties are made fresh every day by Kicks' associates, and are displayed grab-and-go style. "They're a better sandwich," Johnson said.
White mocha lattes are the most popular espresso drink. Perhaps most surprising to Johnson, though, is the demand for fruit smoothies in the winter months. The fruit drinks represent nearly 20% of total sales.
"I was expecting smoothies to be at that level in the hotter months," he said.
Without elaborating on locations, Johnson said the company intends to expand to other Wal-Mart stores.
A Wal-Mart representative said the Kicks cafe is still being evaluated, and no decisions have been made regarding its future. "We test quietly at Wal-Mart, and listen to our customers," said spokeswoman Sharon Weber.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Clean it up...!!! I can't respond to your question.
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Chart PM's full...
You have a great weekend too man, ya'll have fun!
Posted by Spooky on :
Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Please help me out - WHAT THE HECK IS THIS for us folks who are legal- illiterate?
Posted by Spooky on :
Good Boy Rufus!!!! Keep it going more filings more PR's you go Ruf....I think once again he's ready to kick some "asprin" & take some names!!!
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Please help me out - WHAT THE HECK IS THIS for us folks who are legal- illiterate?
There was some belief that the action from the other day (the motion for default) was not going to happen because they filed it under the wrong rule. If that information I quoted earlier is true, then the clerk DID file for the default.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Chart is busy with his son's bday party right now and isn't online.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Good Boy Rufus!!!! Keep it going more filings more PR's you go Ruf....I think once again he's ready to kick some "asprin" & take some names!!!
Now I can agree with that AND there NEEDS to be hand holding during this time. By both the company and the shareholders.
Information is POWER so make us POWERFUL RUFUS. Quit dipchittin around, get lawyers, git'r'done!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
That's just telling that the filing was done and the time with date... nothing new..
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Please help me out - WHAT THE HECK IS THIS for us folks who are legal- illiterate?
Posted by highhopes on :
After reading posts all day long I take the following into the weekend:
1) Rufus has been hit with some things he did not anticipate and he is struggling to keep things on track. He knows he has the cards but the game keeps changing. There is no way he issues that PR if he does not have anything. So I discount all the fraud bashers.
2) It is not clear that he has all the answers on how to beat the powers to be on the law suit but he is working hard to figure that out. If this was a big company he would have a staff of people working on it. He does not so he is doing what he can with what he has.
3) There are some shareholders, on the committee that know more and are already hard at work to help. There is no doubt that they are being very cautious what they say as they are not going to risk their own legal status posting on boards. I wish they can say more but the fact they are doing the work is something I am very appreciative of.
4) We are all at risk that the machine wins but I like our chances.
Thanks again to those in the know boat for doing what you can to help. I would love it if you could tell us more but trust that you will give us all you can.
Posted by new2stocks on :
who's on the shareholder's committee?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: who's on the shareholder's committee?
I think several people have signed up. I sent in my info, but have not received anything other than the initial welcome to the group e-mails.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I signed up and got a generic email the other day (if not today- the days merge with cshd)
Apparently on paltalk they are discussing a possible buyout.
I haven't seen anything to lend credibility to that but hey- its entertaining.
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: That's just telling that the filing was done and the time with date... nothing new..
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Please help me out - WHAT THE HECK IS THIS for us folks who are legal- illiterate?
I beg to differ 10of13, I believe it could very well be "something new".
An argument was made on the SPR interview last night by James (Dogman), BullTrader(?), and Beaches (AKA SeaWeed) that the SEC had incorectly filed for the Default under rule 15a which states that the Clerk can "issue" the Default if there was a "Sum amount" (a dollar figure) asked for in the initial complaint. They believe that it should have been filed under rule 15b which would put it in front of the judge.
My understanding is that now CSHD will have to dispute the Default because Default basic means that the prayers for relief in the original complaint is essentially granted. Which may include Rufus being barred from ever being involved in a publicly traded company again.
I am no lawyer, but I can see that it COULD be a serious issue.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
That PR confirms to me that Rufus has totally lost his mind (in my opinion). Really you have to ask yourself logically; Who else works for CSHD other than Rufus ?
Please open up your eyes ! He sounds like a desperate, raving lunatic in that PR. You are all smart people - look I drank the Kool Aid with the rest of you for 3 months. But that PR was just lunacy.
The default was filed, really it wouldn't surprise me if the judge rules in favor of the SEC and shuts down CSHD for by Turkey Day.
Posted by new2stocks on :
the clerks entry of default doesn't show a document to be viewed on Pacer. ??
Posted by GreenDay on :
I never even got the initial welcome and I emailed Dog twice.
Posted by frank021474 on :
K everyone- I am stepping away from the keyboard and going to bbq with some friends that are coming over. Fire pit is all ready- its time for smores and dawgs!
Good night all!
Don't wind up like this after looking at this all weekend!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Have a good weekend everyone!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
heres the change... Mike Alexander says that, “I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company’s assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the Company’s business plan. I, and all of the shareholders, with the group in Georgia the best of luck in the development of the Company and the shareholders’ value. Mr. Harris has agreed to assume his previous management and board position and will be making announcements in the near future. He can be reached at (678) 758-3010.’
part 1) On November 14, 2006, Mr. Michael Alexander as Sole Director of the Company determined after spending the last couple of weeks reviewing the financial records of the Company accumulated by the previous management group that it is in the best interest of the Company’s shareholders that the future of the Company will best be served by the previous management group located in Georgia as they have the financial background and relationships with issuers of the bond assets they brought to the Company. Mr. Alexander is under the opinion that they have the best opportunity to monetize the assets and if so monetized, implement the Company’s business plan. In conjunction with this decision, Mr. Alexander has reappointed Mr. Rufus Harris as the Sole Director and Chief Executive Officer of the Company.
Posted by atthebank on :
thanks driver, good post
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
Looks like a march on the whitehouse is coming, thats the main thing u need a permit for in D.C!!!!!!!!!! Posted by 6digits on :
Will the bond assets be enough to get us all on a plane to DC by DEC, thats the next big question.
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
Looks like a march on the whitehouse is coming, thats the main thing u need a permit for in D.C!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Great a fuqin protest- COME ON! Good find fhalyesss. I hope its a victory dance celebration- not the entrace to a life long battle we are now on the front lines of. Now I am really going to get off the computer LOL!
tutankhamen HSM Regular
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 457 Washington, D.C. Think about it.
Paste from PR The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Make sure we don't bring this guy-
K now I am REEAALLLYYY stepping away from the keyboard.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
Looks like a march on the whitehouse is coming, thats the main thing u need a permit for in D.C!!!!!!!!!!
how about waiting to see the PROOF... this is how rumors get way out of hand..
the fact is? CSHD went on the SHO list in early August and stayed on until it was suspended/halted by the SEC (whatever you call it)... it only came off cuz it's not NASD/OTCBB anymore...
my calculations showed the "crash" from 1.60 in late July was the "dump" that finally put it over the FTD threshold.. but it had been building for awhile... (yes Kevin, watching the ticker can tell you much more than a chart can)
if people don't follow this thru all the way? the same game will continue to be played again, and again and again...
it makes no difference WHO sold the Failure To Delivers (FTDs)... they were sold and stayed on the books for MONTHS.. it COULD have been a company insider, and? it could have been a broker or a pumpandump boiler room group...
the thing is? anybody who "paid to play" is entitled to find out who did it and how...
make sure you demand it...
this is why i've still been here since the price started dropping from 3.50$, it was obvious that the runup to 4$ didn't cover the FTD's, just the legal shorts...
the rumor about a march just sounds like a basher tactic.. no i'm not accusing you of bashing, i'm just saying i've heard this claim before in another stock, that i was NOT in ever....
we know there were FTD's, we know that many other companies have them too...
this one might "tip" EZR than you think repoman Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I don't think this was very smart at all. Why does he have to do this? Come on Rufus.
"I know the storm is strong and we may suffer some damage but we will still be standing strong at the end. I have worked long and hard to form and build this corporation, and I will not stand by and let illegal market activities prevent us from our goals. Our corporation is the model corporation and will be the beginning of a new market place. Be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too. I would also like to thank each and every one of you for your prayers in these trying times, and may GOD bless each of you."
Posted by frank021474 on :
Good point glass- kind of ran off with that one. Lets see what the call tomorrow is all about.
-fw
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Glass what else do u think they might need permits for? I also think why D.C? What do u think? TIA
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Also its very unusual to be talking about God in a Pr...very messed up in my opinion. Let's hope he pulls through
Posted by RichBy26 on :
well for once a shareholder meeting is in my neck of the woods, I'm only 45 min away from DC so I'll be at the meeting...
Posted by wv1973 on :
Does it strike anyone else that the way RPH says some things in the PR is very similar to the way tut talks?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Glass what else do u think they might need permits for? I also think why D.C? What do u think? TIA
all i'm saying is don't put the cart in front of the horse...
this play has drawn a lot of attention..
Rufus pretty much demanded it when he PR'ed and accused AMTD... way back when... and? it has always been possible that Rufus was set up from inside the company... not by the brokers.. as faras i am concerned?that doesn't matter, what maters is getting the SHO problem fixed MARKETWIDE..
i personally think Rufus BELIEVES... that doesn't mean he is correct...
thing is? this type of thing has been going on for along time in the markets, it still is, and it's time to fix it. Rufufs is the one that started claiming it was naked shorters, and despite the "bashers" scoffing? the SHO list is a fact... as of yesterday? it had 331 companies on it...
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Thanks for your views Glass, always a pleasure Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: That's not what I said...go re-read it. I never said WHAT I was going to kick. See there...you do have an agenda.
...and San Antonio is not that far away either.
St. Matt , if you want some of this just let me know and I can PM you my address . Posted by wv1973 on :
I for one am very tired of the cryptic words coming from the PR. Why should anyone have to wait another 30 days. Just say it with no more BS. No more beating around the bush. What is the agenda? What is the purpose of the emergency meeting? Stockholders have a right to know now. We have endured enough.
I plan on checking with prnewswire to see where the release came from and can anyone submit a PR on officialooking paper and get it printed? I am not being negative. I am being cautious and rightfully so.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Source - for some reason I like you....
I like ya too .........
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: I for one am very tired of the cryptic words coming from the PR. Why should anyone have to wait another 30 days. Just say it with no more BS. No more beating around the bush. What is the agenda? What is the purpose of the emergency meeting? Stockholders have a right to know now. We have endured enough.
I plan on checking with prnewswire to see where the release came from and can anyone submit a PR on officialooking paper and get it printed? I am not being negative. I am being cautious and rightfully so.
Actually, I think he may be playing by the SEC rules. I believe actual Shareholder meetings must be announced 30 days in advance. Just like appearance on TV and Radio are usually PRd before hand. Giving shareholders advanced fair notice of the public event. This P.R. is not very informative but it does have significance.
Posted by sceptor on :
In the news release, "Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting," sent earlier today by Conversion Solutions Holding Corp via PR Newswire, we are advised by the company the contact information for the media should be, +1-404-393-9824, rather than +1-678-758-3010 as originally issued inadvertently.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holding Corp
News provided by Acquire Media Corporation
Posted by coollbreezz on :
Emergency Shareholders Meeting
KENNESAW, Ga., Nov. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces that an emergency shareholders meeting has been called and will be held in Washington, D.C. on December 17, 2006 (30 days from today). The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference.
Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits.
CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM.
Each shareholder is hereby requested to go to the following website starting on Monday, November 20, 2006: http://www.cshdshareholdercommittee.com. A database will be set-up so each shareholder can update your mailing information for the corporate mailer. The corporation will cross reference the information provided against a current NOBO list.
CSHD would like announce the result of the last internal market investigation of reported shareholders vs. NOBO list; the number of documented shareholders above the reported NOBO exceed 800 and still counting.
Rufus Paul Harris, Chairman and CEO stated, "Very confusing events have taken place and I feel that it is necessary and very important to hold the annual meeting and discuss with every shareholder the forward movement of the corporation. I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend.
"I know the storm is strong and we may suffer some damage but we will still be standing strong at the end. I have worked long and hard to form and build this corporation, and I will not stand by and let illegal market activities prevent us from our goals. Our corporation is the model corporation and will be the beginning of a new market place. Be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too. I would also like to thank each and every one of you for your prayers in these trying times, and may GOD bless each of you."
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. __________________
Posted by Spooky on :
For what it's worth, this was just posted on HSM:
This user claimed to recieve a correction to the PR but due to the software he uses cut/paste was not an option so he transcribed this:
In the news release, "Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting," sent earlier today by Conversion Solutions Holding Corp via PR Newswire, we are advised by the company the contact information for the media should be, +1-404-393-9824, rather than +1-678-758-3010 as originally issued inadvertently.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holding Corp
News provided by Acquire Media Corporation
Posted by luvforever on :
what? we call this number at 5pm? I'm confused anyone? tia and it sounds like by the pr that it is gonna get worse before strong is that what ya all got from it?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: That's just telling that the filing was done and the time with date... nothing new..
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Not confirmed yet.. anyone got Pacer access?
quote:Originally Posted by dumping0 Default has been entered.
U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-02568-CC
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation et al Assigned to: Judge Clarence Cooper
11/17/2006 Clerk's Entry of Default as to Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (vs) (Entered: 11/17/2006)
Please help me out - WHAT THE HECK IS THIS for us folks who are legal- illiterate?
Thankx sooo much appreciate it!
Posted by luvforever on :
spr? cshd halted?? What the heck rufas said he got a fax anyone listening???
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Replay from 10/24
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: spr? cshd halted?? What the heck rufas said he got a fax anyone listening???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: what? we call this number at 5pm? I'm confused anyone? tia and it sounds like by the pr that it is gonna get worse before strong is that what ya all got from it?
No it is just updating the media contact phone number for the PR. Not the missing teleconference number.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: who's on the shareholder's committee?
I am - I don't think there are any "officers" yet except Dogman...
Posted by TimW on :
Dogman is James?
Posted by luvforever on :
thsnks texas i thought i was going nuts! oh wait...LOL I own cshd...therefore I AM NUTS! ~LOL j/k he he ;*
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Also its very unusual to be talking about God in a Pr...very messed up in my opinion. Let's hope he pulls through
I think this world needs a little MORE people talking about God that's part of OUR problem!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: That's not what I said...go re-read it. I never said WHAT I was going to kick. See there...you do have an agenda.
...and San Antonio is not that far away either.
St. Matt , if you want some of this just let me know and I can PM you my address .
Source - You stop that and apologize to Matt - after all, we may all be seeing eachother in Washington!!!! Be Nice Now!!!!
Is that smiley face doing what I think it's doing?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Dogman is James?
Yes....
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Is that smiley face doing what I think it's doing?
Yes, and if they are still doing that in the morning, the one on the left will be down to his elbow and the one on the right will have RSI!! LOL Posted by luvforever on :
okay folks i gotta get some zzzs see ya tomorrow unless i get bore and peek in again... also if anyone knows how to get wherever we need to go tomorrow will ya all let me in on it I'd like to be there too LOL...tia
Posted by luvforever on :
ok gotta ask this ..if anyone follows me could this be true? Rufas is gonna square the shareholders up by cashing in a bond or something in the next 3 days he said last time on spr right? I thought i heard him say this I could be wrong the part about cashing a bond in the next three days...I am not starting a rumor but did anyone hear something like that? thanks
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Heeellloooo?! 30 days until the meeting. Enough time to think of something else to get people excited about and another month shareholders will hold & hope for a miracle. This thing reeks in my opinion. In 30 days the pps will problably be less than .10 and theres really nothing that can be done in a shareholders meeting that is going to undo any of the F'ups in the past. Rufus needs to take care of business and stop doing these stupid diversions. Like I always say, I hope I'm wrong and something great happens but this company has never been one to bring great surprises and to actually see them through
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya Rufus said he was going to pull down some funds on a bond and that it would take 3 to 5 days. I'd like to hear about having a market maker on this stock right away also.
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: ok gotta ask this ..if anyone follows me could this be true? Rufas is gonna square the shareholders up by cashing in a bond or something in the next 3 days he said last time on spr right? I thought i heard him say this I could be wrong the part about cashing a bond in the next three days...I am not starting a rumor but did anyone hear something like that? thanks
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Source - for some reason I like you....
I like ya too .........
WOW is that JENNA Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Also its very unusual to be talking about God in a Pr...very messed up in my opinion. Let's hope he pulls through
I think this world needs a little MORE people talking about God that's part of OUR problem!!!
I would say we need less people talking about god. Its the problem, not the answer.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I know it's hard for you to get your mind wrapped around a stock with actual potential for gains, but I'm still wondering what you find so funny about me making an actual prediction that has a legitimate possibility of happening, as opposed to the "hold and hope" strategy you seem to be employing in this stock. It's ironic that I've never instigated any personal attacks on you, but you continually insist on attacking me personally. I can fully understand being emotionally invested in a stock. It's happened to all of us. You don't need to make it personal against other Allstocks members, though.
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
If you're going to turn stock-picking into personal attacks, I don't WANT you to make plays I recommend. I don't need that headache.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Exactly St Matt-
Its one thing to hear him complaining and whining about this stock. Last thing I want to do is go in on another stock with him so that he then thinks we have something in common.
THEN the stock tanks and somehow I have a new drinkin buddy????
yesh-
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
Guys...if you don't like it when they come here...you should show the respect you would like shown here to them. Sometimes it does not matter if they respect you first.
Yes, I know you are all frustrated whith the way people come to this thread and do the same. I do understand the desire to do it.
Posted by 66inxs on :
portman, are you on the shareholder's committee?
Posted by portman on :
Everyone who singed up is a member. James is the Chairman...Nothing is decided past that as far as I know.
Posted by dollar13 on :
jenna drink a few shots of TEQUILA and TURN OFF YOUR PC for today , have a nice weekend.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
Guys...if you don't like it when they come here...you should show the respect you would like shown here to them. Sometimes it does not matter if they respect you first.
Yes, I know you are all frustrated whith the way people come to this thread and do the same. I do understand the desire to do it.
portman is correct...
why lower yourself?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
Guys...if you don't like it when they come here...you should show the respect you would like shown here to them. Sometimes it does not matter if they respect you first.
Yes, I know you are all frustrated whith the way people come to this thread and do the same. I do understand the desire to do it.
portman is correct...
why lower yourself?
I'll be glad to lower myself. I deal with nuts all day.
Posted by 66inxs on :
i was curious if you were part of tomorrow's teleconference because, judging from your prior posts, you can be counted on to give an unbiased report on what happened there.
Posted by portman on :
And by the way...Kevin might have an interesting stock to DD. Repo's picks are equally nice.
If you have only tried to go long in a stock and ride a roller coaster you are missing much of the fun of purely TRADING a stock. The rush is quite good.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Glass-
I do hope you're not implying that I've written anything on here that could be classified as "low" on this thread. Because I honestly don't feel like I have.
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Check it out...like anyone would believe this guy. Is he for real?
Guys...if you don't like it when they come here...you should show the respect you would like shown here to them. Sometimes it does not matter if they respect you first.
Yes, I know you are all frustrated whith the way people come to this thread and do the same. I do understand the desire to do it.
portman is correct...
why lower yourself?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: i was curious if you were part of tomorrow's teleconference because, judging from your prior posts, you can be counted on to give an unbiased report on what happened there.
To be perfectly honest I have just glanced at the PR tonight and not given it much thought.
I guess I better find out what is up ... lol.
Posted by sceptor on :
LOL sorry but the guy deserved it.
Posted by 66inxs on :
i thought for sure that you would be there. i voted for you and st matt. whenever we did that. maybe only hsm peeps got to be on it, i don't know!! i am registered there but seldom post on that board.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: i was curious if you were part of tomorrow's teleconference because, judging from your prior posts, you can be counted on to give an unbiased report on what happened there.
To be perfectly honest I have just glanced at the PR tonight and not given it much thought.
I guess I better find out what is up ... lol.
Please let us know if we will be able to listen in. There was no number given in the PR to connect to the teleconference
Posted by glassman on :
mixing this stuff up is how the board ends up with nothing working at all 66..
are you sure you are on th eshareholder list?
Posted by dollar13 on :
GLASS dont't delete my posts please .
Posted by 66inxs on :
there isn't a link on the website to enter info on. just a message to shareholders. james gee says he will have it working by the 20th.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: mixing this stuff up is how the board ends up with nothing working at all 66..
are you sure you are on th eshareholder list?
Are you a mod, Glass?
duh?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
s p i n o f f z
Posted by 10of13 on :
66? I thought that you said that you sold out...did you buy back in?
quote:Originally posted by glassman: mixing this stuff up is how the board ends up with nothing working at all 66..
are you sure you are on th eshareholder list?
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK...never mind...LOL
Posted by 66inxs on :
10 my philosophy with penny stocks is to minimize risk by holding them no longer than is necessary to make a profit. i was a stockholder of record on 10/16 when the 6 for 1 was promised so i still have a stake in this, albeit a rapidly shrinking one. never claimed to be a long holder of this. i will stick to what was posted in the prior threads.
Posted by portman on :
Ok, I read the PR finally...lol...I was too busy spending money on the kids for Christnuka.
I like it. I will be in DC barring any unforeseen issues.
If we get a conf call number I will be on that as well tomorrow.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well, someone got their wish cause I'm done. Check out CHNW thread if ya want to find out what I mean.
My post was deleted when again taken out of context. Not the first time when Bob himself banned me without even looking into what was said. Ban first, ask later.
And to be a veteran and proud! How dare you take that freedom from me!!!
Goodbye folks and good luck with your futures. I will miss many.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i doubt it...
i don't thinki saw it.
I thought you were the one that bumped it back to the top of the micropennies?
that one is in off-topics... and? there is now a whole pile of off-topic stuff in this thread... read your PM's
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Ok, I read the PR finally...lol...I was too busy spending money on the kids for Christnuka.
I like it. I will be in DC barring any unforeseen issues.
If we get a conf call number I will be on that as well tomorrow.
bring your marching boots.
and you are gonna nuke christ? Posted by jmoestinks on :
Kevin Baily just wants to be considered a genius by all you nayser ravage CSHD diehards. He can't figure out why you don't like his picks, and why you won't listen to his wealth of intelligence. Kevin your an idiot as well! I picture you sitting there on the floor with a huge table full of printed stock charts with a laptop sitting on top of them in the middle. Your wearing a stained white house coat loosely tied with 8 gold chains dripping from your neck. You have a come up with the perfect stocking picking strategy. You sit at the table furiously shaking a majic eight ball. When the phrase pops up you write it down. Then you rearrange the letters as many times as you possibly can in four letter codes. You then type the codes into your laptop broker account and look for the ones that have charts that look like a vista of mountains. You print out the chart bisect it with a 45 degree line and if it hits all the mountains you buy it. Then when you figured out it sucks you go and try to ruin others fun. Take a nap! Get a clue! We don't like you here. St. Matt stuff him in that locker. Then call him an idiot!
Posted by glassman on :
dang jmoestinks, you figured out MY strategy, how'd you do that?
Posted by thesource on :
I guess Dufus is now playing the squeeky wheel gets the grease logic by holding a meeting in D.C .He must really think that he's going to play this his way and just forget all about the pending suit against him with the SEC . There's no way some idiotic cowboy like Dufus is well connected with anyone of power . He doesn't even have an attorney ............ and I'm betting his broke off his a$$ .
I sure would like to hear from Sabra or Mitch right about now . I bet they have a hell of a story to tell .
Posted by 6digits on :
jmoestinks, your conception is quite recent and unexpected, but I have to be honest and confess that I find it amusing. The way you described the stock picking method is a classic.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
My pug Owen is ready for the march!
DC Pimp!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Ok, I read the PR finally...lol...I was too busy spending money on the kids for Christnuka.
I like it. I will be in DC barring any unforeseen issues.
If we get a conf call number I will be on that as well tomorrow.
bring your marching boots.
and you are gonna nuke christ?
lol...Nuke Christ...I think not...lol....
Just multi-religion family here. We celebrate it all.
Posted by 6digits on :
Is he bringing his *****es with him?
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus: My pug Owen is ready for the march!
DC Pimp!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: jmoestinks, your conception is quite recent and unexpected, but I have to be honest and confess that I find it amusing. The way you described the stock picking method is a classic.
--hey that's the way "I" pick stocks! wth???
LMAO ~~~
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: dang jmoestinks, you figured out MY strategy, how'd you do that?
You use the 8-ball too? Jeez and I thought I had a unique strategy!
Posted by Chart walker on :
"Secrets out" -darn!.....
Posted by glassman on :
no-no baddog is ready to march:
Posted by Chart walker on :
I said it once, and I saw crab said it too... I think it should be repeated...
"Wait till next week" Posted by Jenna on :
Glass, we can almost see his manhood....
Posted by Jenna on :
Good night all....
May you have.........
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Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams!!!!
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Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I guess Dufus is now playing the squeeky wheel gets the grease logic by holding a meeting in D.C .He must really think that he's going to play this his way and just forget all about the pending suit against him with the SEC . There's no way some idiotic cowboy like Dufus is well connected with anyone of power . He doesn't even have an attorney ............ and I'm betting his broke off his a$$ .
I sure would like to hear from Sabra or Mitch right about now . I bet they have a hell of a story to tell .
He's broke? Have you been to his horse stables lmao..far from broke
Posted by 66inxs on :
thanks jenna, i was waiting for that !
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Glass, we can almost see his manhood....
LOL... it's a good thing you can't.. don't want to get in trouble for posting naughty pix Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Glass, we can almost see his manhood....
OMG... I SO expected you to say that.....lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
glass? Is that the pup?
Posted by glassman on :
yep... he can take a tennis ball out of my hand at about 61/2 to 7 feet... he'll be a year old in few weeks.. so he's 3/4- 7/8ths full grown
Posted by T e x on :
anybody willing to give me a few-sentence summary of the latest developments? lol, last I was on-thread, we had discussion of keeping this thread DD & news only...
Obviously, I been outta pocket a few days...
Posted by glassman on :
impossible to do Tex...
SEC requested default judgement... who knows what that means for shareholders.. Rufus may have to resign again...
Posted by T e x on :
"default" or "summary" ?
not splitting hairs, but you know how terms get mixed up, eh?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: impossible to do Tex...
SEC requested default judgement... who knows what that means for shareholders.. Rufus may have to resign again...
Also, SEC "requested" or was "granted" a default judgment?
am busy, busy, here--trying to catch up... Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
It appears that--since CSHD didn't show for the hearing--the judge has few options other than granting summary judgement.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: It appears that--since CSHD didn't show for the hearing--the judge has few options other than granting summary judgement.
now... see!
here's what I am asking...
"summary judgment"
OR
"default judgment" ?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Good question. I'm going from memory here, but I think that both phrases have been used in the thread.
Posted by T e x on :
ooops...
just re-read the thread... sorry, kids...
"requested" or "granted" NOT the distinction, here.
But, "summary" vs "default" has implications...
kinda like "with prejudice" and "without prejudice"
and, lol, NO, it's not simply a case of my preferring accurate language, as in "halt" vs "suspension."
Courts/legal system use different terms on purpose... it's to traders' advantage to grasp the distinctions.
Posted by CRab on :
"few options"...
Kinda like saying, well you can be right, or...um...wrong.
Tex, the judge/clerk can rule however they like, meaning they can take the SEC's motion from yesterday and say, "Ok, here ya go SEC here is your DEFAULT judgement". They can also say, "Here ya go SEC, you can take that motion and shove it sideways, where's the proof?".
This can go either way, we just have to WAIT and see what happens. No amount of "figgerin" can come up with a correct answer for now.
That is the way I see things at this point anyway.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: "few options"...
Kinda like saying, well you can be right, or...um...wrong.
Tex, the judge/clerk can rule however they like, meaning they can take the SEC's motion from yesterday and say, "Ok, here ya go SEC here is your DEFAULT judgement". They can also say, "Here ya go SEC, you can take that motion and shove it sideways, where's the proof?".
This can go either way, we just have to WAIT and see what happens. No amount of "figgerin" can come up with a correct answer at this point.
nope...
for one, "clerks" can't rule...
that is, I'll buy clerks' having an affect on the docket, and I'll even buy off on clerks having signed judges' names to rulings, presumably with the judge's consent. But a clerk's siggy is not gonna fly on a "ruling."
Now, gotta retrace: whether it's granted or requested, has *ANY* judgment been entered?
Posted by CRab on :
quote: Under Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Clerk of Court is instructed to enter a default against a defendant who “has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by the rules,” when a failure to defend is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise. Indeed, the purpose of Rule 55(a) is to relieve the district judge of the obligation of reviewing applications for the entry of default. 6 James W. Moore et al. Moore’s Federal Practice ¶ 55.03[1] n.16 (2d ed. 1992). Thus, the power to enter default is given to the Clerk. Based therefore on the previously filed return of service of summons establishing that Conversion was served through its agent for service of process on October 26, 2006, and the authority specifically granted to the Clerk by Rule 55(a), the Commission respectfully requests the Clerk enter a default against defendant Conversion Solutions forthwith.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Sounds pretty straightforward. Automatic default when they don't even show up.
Posted by T e x on :
ya, that's saying the deal appears to be a slam-dunk, therefore even the clerk can proceed.
When the defendant presents no defense? Why bother the judge? (But that's not a "ruling"--catch the distincion?)
Now...if it was a "default" that was entered? It could be the defendant's buying time...
I doubt anyone would be surprised if that's true.
[edited in] lol, don't change your post on me, bro!
anyway, you catch the drift, eh?
Thanks for the previous link...
Posted by CRab on :
Yes Tex...I used "ruling" a little to liberally...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Yes Tex...I used "ruling" a little to liberally...
CRab,
am *not* "picking on" you...
simply urging all to post accurately.
This thing requires attention to the specific, and yet, sadly, many continue to use halt for suspension, just for example.
Now we're into summary vs. default...and even into nuances of administrative procedure vs. judging of evidence.
These are not small considerations...
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: anybody willing to give me a few-sentence summary of the latest developments? lol, last I was on-thread, we had discussion of keeping this thread DD & news only...
Obviously, I been outta pocket a few days...
Tex, Maybe this will help. Notice the top of the filing. There are 2 dates. 11/16/2006 and 12/04/2006. I'm no lawyer but it sure seems that 12/04 is the deadline before the defualt judgement could be entered. Like I said I'm not a lawyer and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night but why is the 12/04/2006 if it has no relevance.
Deadline/Hearing Event Filed 11/16/06 Due/Set 12/04/06 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA ATLANTA DIVISION SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
Civil Action No. v. 1:06-CV-2568-CC
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
Defendants.
APPLICATION FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”), plaintiff in the above-referenced matter, hereby applies to the Clerk of the Court pursuant to Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for an entry of default against defendant Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (“Conversion”). Entry of default is sought against Conversion for failure to plead or otherwise defend as provided by Rule 55(a).
In support of this application for entry of default against Conversion, the plaintiff has filed Conversion’s return of service. The return of service of process establishes that Conversion, through its registered agent for service of process, Harvard Business Services of Lewes, Delaware, was served with the summons, complaint, request for temporary restraining order, memorandum in support, proposed order, and other associated documents on October 26, 2006. The return of service of process was filed with this Court on November 16, 2006 and is now part of the record in this case. Conversion was obligated to file an answer to the complaint not later than November 15, 2006, but has not filed an answer as required by the federal rules. Since Conversion has not timely filed a response to the complaint, and has not sought an extension, the entry of default is now appropriate. Under Rule 55(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Clerk of Court is instructed to enter a default against a defendant who “has failed to plead or otherwise defend as provided by the rules,” when a failure to defend is made to appear by affidavit or otherwise. Indeed, the purpose of Rule 55(a) is to relieve the district judge of the obligation of reviewing applications for the entry of default. 6 James W. Moore et al. Moore’s Federal Practice ¶ 55.03[1] n.16 (2d ed. 1992). Thus, the power to enter default is given to the Clerk. Based therefore on the previously filed return of service of summons establishing that Conversion was served through its agent for service of process on October 26, 2006, and the authority specifically granted to the Clerk by Rule 55(a), the Commission respectfully requests the Clerk enter a default against defendant Conversion Solutions forthwith.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ William P. Hicks William P. Hicks District Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 351649 /s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Senior Trial Counsel Georgia Bar No. 785045 Counsel for Plaintiff SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION 3475 Lenox Road, N.E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Telephone: (404) 842-7600 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that on this 16th day of November, 2006, I mailed by United States Postal Service the preceding Notice of Filing of Returns of Service to the following non-CM/ECF participants: Rufus Paul Harris a/k/a Paul Rufus Harris 383 Clear Creek Road, N.W. Adairsville, Georgia 30103-5934 Conversion Solutions Holdings Corporation c/o Registered Agent Harvard Business Services 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958
/s/ Alana R. Black Alana R. Black Counsel for Plaintiff Georgia Bar No. 785045 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Atlanta District Office 3475 Lenox Road, N. E., Suite 1000 Atlanta, Georgia 30326-1232 Tel. No. (404) 842-7678 blacka*sec.gov
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ya, that's saying the deal appears to be a slam-dunk, therefore even the clerk can proceed.
When the defendant presents no defense? Why bother the judge? (But that's not a "ruling"--catch the distincion?)
Now...if it was a "default" that was entered? It could be the defendant's buying time...
I doubt anyone would be surprised if that's true.
[edited in] lol, don't change your post on me, bro!
anyway, you catch the drift, eh?
Thanks for the previous link...
The lawyer types say it is an easy feat to get the clerks entry set aside. So it's far from a slam dunk at this point. And from the looks of it Rufus may be finally ready to do something about it. We shall see.
Posted by thedoctor on :
I don't know if this has been posted but if not here it is ... A letter from the committee to Rufus ...........
FIRST DRAFT:
Mr. Rufus Harris Chairman and CEO Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation Kennesaw, GA
Dear Mr. Harris,
As you are aware, Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation (CSHC) has an extremely loyal shareholder base formed primarily as the result of your efforts to provide us with the kind of insight and information rarely provided by Senior Executives of public corporations. I’m sure you are also aware that the shareholder base is formed of people from widely different backgrounds who have converged into a knowledgeable, passionate support structure for the company.
While this approach to the operation of CSHC is both refreshing and unique, it also creates issues for a CEO such as yourself who not only wants to bring great success to the company but also make good on promises made to shareholders regarding share price expectations and the timeline for achieving such success. As such, the events of the past month, beginning with the annual 10K filing, which first gave great tangible hope to shareholders but then followed by the SEC complaints, the suspension of trading, the demotion of the stock to the ‘grey sheets’, the purging of the management team rapidly followed by your return, have, in spite of massive efforts on the part of both you and the shareholder base, clearly tested shareholder loyalty as we have watched the share price plummet by 90% since resumption of trading on November 7.
Throughout this entire process the one constant belief in every shareholder’s mind is that we have invested in a company with real assets and a great business model for success. Without that belief it is likely that the shareholder base would have disintegrated long ago, but because of your efforts in building that solid understanding of the asset structure and the projected future for the company we have stood loyally behind you and the rest of the CSHC management team.
We applaud your interest in maintaining and building a close working relationship between CSHC and the shareholder base. The Shareholder’s Committee, an idea you developed and helped implement, will eventually be an influential voice that contribute to the long term success of the company and it will truly make CSHC a revolutionary organization in the U.S. economy.
We know that there are many issues facing you and the company that needed both attention and resolution to ensure our mutual success. Many of us have taken months out of our lives to research the company and analyze the events as they have unfolded. Although there are many opinions that are sometimes in conflict, it is clear that there are several shared universal goals: • We want the company to be successful and reward shareholders for their loyalty and patience. • We want the company to use its Asset base to make investments that help solve some of the pressing issues in the world • We want the success of the company to be a model for the evolution of the public companies into a true partnership between management and the shareholder base.
Another very important goal for many shareholders is the true leveling of the playing field so that emerging public companies have a better chance of avoiding the ‘death spiral’ often caused by highly dilutive financing and attacks by individuals and groups interested in profiting through the failure of a business.
The purpose of the above was to provide you with an overview of how many of your shareholders truly feel about CSHC as you prepare at this very crucial point in CSHC’s evolution; the shareholder conference call on November 18, 2006 seems to many of us to be the beginning of intense effort to bring the reverse merger of Conversion Solutions and FrontHaul Group to a successful conclusion and set the stage for the success all of us want to see.
At the same time, however, we are also frustrated by many of the events over the past few months and wanted to make our voices heard so that you could address these specific issues directly and hopefully clear the air so that shareholder confidence is both restored and enhanced. We decided as a group this evening, after the release of the November 17th Press Release announcing the Emergency Shareholder’s Meeting as well as the Shareholder’s Committee Conference call on November 18th to summarize our concerns and ask that you address each of them, hopefully as soon as the conference call later today. These issues include (they are broken down into several major issues):
SEC Complaint and Case: • The status of an Attorney being retained to represent CSHC in the case • The plan for reversal of the Default for non-response entered on November 17th • The goals and expectations for the successful conclusion of the case
Resumption of trading on a Regular Exchange • The plan for timely filings of the 10Q, amended 10K, S4 and other documents needed to complete the merger • The status and timetable for the filing of Form 15(C)-211 by sufficient Market Makers to enable the relisting of CSHC on the OTCBB or another Exchange such as NASDAQ or AMEX • The status and timetable for distribution of the 6 additional shares contained in the 10K filing for holders of record as of October 16, 2006 • The plan for bringing the Share Price to an acceptable level once trading resumes on a regular exchange.
Operation of the Business • The plan for staffing the Executive Management of CSHC • The status and plan for validating the Bond Assets through the hypothecation of one or more of the bonds • The status and plan for funding JVs per the original commitment to have at least 2 funded and operational by the end of 2006
There were many more questions posed by Shareholders but we believe that the above represents a summary of the key issues facing you and CSHC at this time.
In conclusion, we know you have a very difficult job in front of you but are hoping that you will choose a path that not only addresses our concerns but also creates a clear path to the success of the company without the bumps in the road encountered over the past few months. As much as each of us appreciates your candor when appearing on Subpenny Radio and other media outlets we would truly like to see CSHC begin to adopt some of the good practices of larger Public companies, including things such as: • Timely SEC filings • More discretion in sharing information that has not yet been provided in a Press Release announcing a material event • Create shareholder expectations that are consistent with CSHC’s ability to deliver results • A reduction in the somewhat adversarial way that regulatory agencies such as the SEC have been addressed
We think that taking all or some of the above advice would result in the continued support and loyalty of your shareholder base as well as contribute to both the short term and long term success of CSHC.
Again, we appreciate your interest and willingness to work closely with us and eagerly look forward to the Conference Call on November 18th and the Emergency Annual Shareholder’s Meeting on December 17th.
Sincerely,
The CSHC Shareholder’s Group
Posted by wv1973 on :
Doc -- nice letter. If I may be so bold as to suggest not only requesting the status of the attorney but name and background. Also don't forget to inquire about status and plan of validating the Duestche (sp?) Bank relationship. Since that relationship was one of the four areas mentioned in the tro, I thought that might be a key issue.
Also, at the conference call will someone ask for the details and reason for an emergency meeting?
Posted by wv1973 on :
PS -- the response to this letter of "all of this will be discussed in 30 days at the emergency meeting" should not, and I mean should not, be acceptable to the shareholders. I visualize this happening, so let's head it off at the pass.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Anything new this morning?
Posted by 66inxs on :
great letter doc. why not forward it to james gee so that he can post it on his web site? you can fax it to rufus at 404.393.9824 also.
Posted by wv1973 on :
66inxs -- the letter says first draft, so got any suggestions on how to make it better?
Posted by 66inxs on :
good morning vw1973. the only suggesions i have is under the sec case to include if and how the company will respond to the motion to enter a default judgement within the 10 day window, and a detailed description under the business plan of what the company is doing to produce revenue from operations RIGHT NOW. rufus needs to get honest with the shareholders right now about what the company is or is not willing to do. i hope this meeting and letter forces the truth out, whatever it is, because finding out the real truth will make it easier for everyone to enjoy their holiday - no more speculation and rumors!
Posted by wv1973 on :
Good morning to you as well. I agree wholeheartedly, but posts of similar in nature over the past few days have been essentially ignored. Like today on the confenernce call, no one should accept a response of "all will be explained in 30 days."
Posted by 66inxs on :
i agree wv1973. there have been too many riddles and promises. things need to be explained right now with all cards face up on the table. show your hand or fold now. while its true that posts like this have been essentially ignored, if it is factual and will help prevent people losing money it needs to be out there. the smart ones will read it and the others will put you on iggy. remember, we should all be in this to make money, bottom line.
Posted by 66inxs on :
i would be really surprised if rufus replies to this letter in a straight forward basis, rather than in riddles and double talk, if at all. his reply or lack or reply to this carefully worded letter should tell us all we need to know about rufus and the company. this letter and the reply should be posted on the cvsu.us web site for all to read.
Posted by highhopes on :
Doc,
Great letter! I agree that the path for this should be through James Gee and the shareholders committee. It has a much better chance of getting a reply if comes through that channel. But it is absolutely on target and I think very needed at this point. Hopefully we are pleasantly surprised by a response indicating much of this is already underway.
Posted by 6digits on :
Has anybody got info yet, how to get on the conference call?
Posted by djg7 on :
Nice letter Doc. Let's hope that some or all of the issues listed are addressed at the meeting today. Nice work.
Posted by 6digits on :
I like the letter Doc. It sounds like a good start to being better informed as to why we are where we are right now. And what's holding up where Rufus said we would be 4 months ago.
Posted by 6digits on :
Is any one here besides me right now?
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
I'm not here anymore
Posted by 3403 on :
I'm back 6digits
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am 6, by the way a link to that letter was posted last night over to s p i n o f f z so I doubt that it was written by Doc.
Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning guys. 3403 you vanished yesterday, but you are here today. Have you guys heard any news on how to get on the 5pm teleconference?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Kinda what I am waiting to hear 6... no word to me yet.
Posted by 3403 on :
The Mod Nazis kicked me off. Someone didn't like my light hearted humor.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am guessing that I may not hear of it since I did not send my info to Dogman, when he first set-up the Shareholder Commitee.
If it is a teleconference for members of the committee only then I would think it would be comunicated through the email addresses provided.
But checking none the less.
Posted by 3403 on :
Glad to hear Rufus is back and seems to be doing something to keep us informed as to what is going on.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Morning..all!...Guess..what?...My..space..bar..is..not..working.......any..sugge stions?...have..a..good..weekend..all!
Posted by 3403 on :
As foolish as it was, I have my meager but total retirement fund invested in this and I truely hope for the best.
Posted by 6digits on :
Tax did you recieve an email that you registered. This might be a reptetive question. I have recieved one email that is a donotreply one, stating that my info was recieved.
Posted by 6digits on :
buy a new keyboard?
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Morning..all!...Guess..what?...My..space..bar..is..not..working.......any..sugge stions?...have..a..good..weekend..all!
Posted by 6digits on :
check and update your drivers in system hardware through the control panel.
Posted by cool AZ on :
it's..a..notebook.......under..warranty..still...
Posted by 6digits on :
3403 I hope it works out for you. But the last thing we need is any more reasons for things to be delayed. You know what I mean?
quote:Originally posted by 3403: As foolish as it was, I have my meager but total retirement fund invested in this and I truely hope for the best.
Posted by cool AZ on :
thanks..6......later..all!
Posted by 6digits on :
SOUNDS LIKE MANUFACTURER SUPPORT TIME.
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: it's..a..notebook.......under..warranty..still...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
6 ~ I never sent an email in the first place. I figured if someone was going to build something new and untested like a sceure voting platform for shareholders of a OTCBB security. I would let it develop a bit before I trust them with handleing my personal information. At the time they had support from the CEO but not cooperation. Recent news of NOBO comparison does indicate a certain amount of cooperation since only the corporation could request the NOBO and only the corporation could choose to share that NOBO with the recently created shareholder comittee. It is a bit more of a turning point if you ask me. I may sign up once they place the new form out there on the 20th. I will wait and see based on the current status of the corporation.
Posted by 6digits on :
Tax, heres the link in case you don't have it.
register*cshdshareholdercommittee.com
Posted by 6digits on :
OK Tax, disregard the previous transmission.
Posted by 10of13 on :
rufus had said on SPR that all that was needed was your name and email...they don't need the amount of shares..the name will be checked with the NOBO list...this is a little more comforting to me...
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I am guessing that I may not hear of it since I did not send my info to Dogman, when he first set-up the Shareholder Commitee.
If it is a teleconference for members of the committee only then I would think it would be comunicated through the email addresses provided.
But checking none the less.
Posted by 6digits on :
The small amount of info means no harm to me. At least they get to know how many shares I want to start making money on, without trying to flip, which is nowhere at this time. But I am also holding long including having one of these certs on some shares.
Posted by 6digits on :
It seems to me that the ones who hold the majority shares will be the final deciding factor for what ever is up anyway. Thats usually the way it works. The advantage to that is you think that they also would like to see this company move along in a progressive and timely manner.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: As foolish as it was, I have my meager but total retirement fund invested in this and I truely hope for the best.
3403 ~ You have been talking pretty negatively lately for someone up to their gills in this thing. You have been siding with many of the people marching around here with the agenda to bury this security.
Personally, I am not in that deep myself, and would hardly feel the pain in the stocks complete demise. But I do know one thing. Individuals that march around with an agenda. Usually have the advantage. I have witnessed several stocks crushed under their innocent, "I am here to save investors." excuses. They do not allow the meager attempts by the officers to save their corporate stock value succeed or even surface. They bury it with old news and bad history, so new investors are turned off imediately. People lingering looking for opportunity, would miss information on recent filings, while reading repostings of negative information.
Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike "bashers" I dislike manipulation. I think there is an important role for people to bring a different perspective to light. If everybody was sold on a stock, then there would be few selling. I like natural volitility.
Cooperation on the part of shorters, and bashers is what I am talking about. It is manipulation, so bad infact that I have curved my personal trading rules to compensate for their actions.
If your frustrated with the things that have transpired then I understand your recent negativity, but you must see that it is not helping your own investment. When you side with those that are aiming to place six feet of dirt between you and your money.
IMO, and just a suggestion. If you are mad take your own stance, site your own DD, and keep as much of the sarcasm to a minimum not to confuse people that may be looking for facts.
This is not meant to offend you, and it is not completely directed to just you. I think is is important for ALL current share holders to keep an amount of decorum here, or we may succeed in helping those with an actual agenda and scare ourselves out of shares.
By the way bashers come on out. I need this stock to drop a bit more to reach my next best buy-in point. I still have confidence in this company, but realistically see that they are in a tight spot at this point. Rufus you and your team of lawyers need get your filings done both for the SEC and for the Federal Court. (I am assuming that you have a team of lawyers now.)
GLTA... I still got a vice grip on my slips.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Hey gang, just checking in. Doc did not write that letter, he plainly stated that it was written by the S.H. committee and sent to Rufus. It was a well written letter and I hope we get some answers tonight. If the call is for shareholders on the committee only, will someone please recap the conversation for those who cannot listen in? I will be in attendance at the SHM in DC on Dec 17th, I will be happy to summerize the event to anyone here who cannot attend. I'll check in after the Ohio State/Michigan game, Go Buckeyes!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
I do hope that anyone that receives the conf call information does not post it online.
I think the reason for the discretion is that only shareholders need to be dialed in. Not every short and idiot basher that has a cell phone. Talk about Chaos- the BBQ Sauce sorcerer would jump on from slovenia etc..
Some on HSM are speculating that this conf call could only be for select committee members. Post-call they send out some sort of summary.
I am not sure- I do know that I have received shareholder committee emails in the past. Have not received anything regarding the call as of 1:20pm.
So I guess time will tell?
So if you get the dial in info does it make sense to NOT post it on this thread?
-fw
Posted by etouqe123 on :
That was a really good letter and it shared all of the concerns that I been wondering about myself, even though I may express them in a more negative manner. I hope this meeting brings some clarity to us all, but more importantly I hope it brings more action.
Posted by 6digits on :
frank, good point. I would rather certain people are left in their ignorance here. Lets not cast our pearls before swine. Yaaaaaaaaaa
Posted by frank021474 on :
Side note:
Keep in mind that CSHD called for the Conf call. Lots of folks are compiling the mother of all lists of questions for the company.
All of the questions I have seen being compiled are valid- my only concern is that the company calling for the conf call indicates to me they have already come up with an agenda of what they would like to put out to the masses.
I have been on similar conf calls where you have several hundred dialed in and through the conf call system everyone is muted while the company puts out the information it intended to.
Do I think RPH will do that? Probably not- he loves getting into discussions with shareholders....but I just wanted to throw that possibility out there before everyone waits for 5pm to roll around and has that christmas morning look in their eyes only to find they are just LISTENING.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
good point about keeping the conference call tight lipped frank, I guess I just want answers like everyone else. You are also correct about the call being muted while the company gets its message across, I would guess that it's going to be James and Rufus doing the majority of the talking... Later
Posted by 6digits on :
I won't mind listening , but I want him to say something that creates some results for a change, besides naked shorters and crooked brokers etc,. I want to hear it said that it's time to fund some JV's and profit the shareholders. He needs to decide what side of the fence he is on.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: As foolish as it was, I have my meager but total retirement fund invested in this and I truely hope for the best.
3403 ~ You have been talking pretty negatively lately for someone up to their gills in this thing. You have been siding with many of the people marching around here with the agenda to bury this security.
Personally, I am not in that deep myself, and would hardly feel the pain in the stocks complete demise. But I do know one thing. Individuals that march around with an agenda. Usually have the advantage. I have witnessed several stocks crushed under their innocent, "I am here to save investors." excuses. They do not allow the meager attempts by the officers to save their corporate stock value succeed or even surface. They bury it with old news and bad history, so new investors are turned off imediately. People lingering looking for opportunity, would miss information on recent filings, while reading repostings of negative information.
Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike "bashers" I dislike manipulation. I think there is an important role for people to bring a different perspective to light. If everybody was sold on a stock, then there would be few selling. I like natural volitility.
Cooperation on the part of shorters, and bashers is what I am talking about. It is manipulation, so bad infact that I have curved my personal trading rules to compensate for their actions.
If your frustrated with the things that have transpired then I understand your recent negativity, but you must see that it is not helping your own investment. When you side with those that are aiming to place six feet of dirt between you and your money.
IMO, and just a suggestion. If you are mad take your own stance, site your own DD, and keep as much of the sarcasm to a minimum not to confuse people that may be looking for facts.
This is not meant to offend you, and it is not completely directed to just you. I think is is important for ALL current share holders to keep an amount of decorum here, or we may succeed in helping those with an actual agenda and scare ourselves out of shares.
By the way bashers come on out. I need this stock to drop a bit more to reach my next best buy-in point. I still have confidence in this company, but realistically see that they are in a tight spot at this point. Rufus you and your team of lawyers need get your filings done both for the SEC and for the Federal Court. (I am assuming that you have a team of lawyers now.)
GLTA... I still got a vice grip on my slips.
I appreciate the lecture, but if Rufus is a crook then I don't WANT to make money on the unsuspecting. Got it!
Posted by wwilliammc on :
Tax, I think 3403's "meager retirement investment" is another one of his *jokes*
Posted by wv1973 on :
I posted these earlier this morning and since the letter said FIRST DRAFT, I thought suggestions would be accepted. Other than 66, no one has even responded to what I suggested. Anybody agree/disagree. Tell me where I'm right, tell me where I wrong. I don't care, just tell me.
Doc -- nice letter. If I may be so bold as to suggest not only requesting the status of the attorney but name and background. Also don't forget to inquire about status and plan of validating the Duestche (sp?) Bank relationship. Since that relationship was one of the four areas mentioned in the tro, I thought that might be a key issue.
Also, at the conference call will someone ask for the details and reason for an emergency meeting?
PS -- the response to this letter of "all of this will be discussed in 30 days at the emergency meeting" should not, and I mean should not, be acceptable to the shareholders. I visualize this happening, so let's head it off at the pass.
Posted by 3403 on :
I don't know how many of you are actually out of school and in business, but here goes. During the course of creating a company and or business of any kind you can not tolerate incompetence and succeed. One has to visualize their worthy objective and do EVERYTHING in their power leagally to obtain that end. If you make a mistake you immediately do what it takes to correct it, and do what it takes to keep it from happening again. (timely) Normally people in business see constant excuses,mistakes and the blame game as incompetence and soon loose confidence in your company or vision. Good reading is "In Search of Excellence" by Tom Peters.
Posted by 3403 on :
Proactive-anticiapte problems and what is needed to avoid them, and do it.
Reactive-run around like a chicken with his head cut off and try to fix things that could of and should of been avoided.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
I won't mind listening , but I want him to say something that creates some results for a change, besides naked shorters and crooked brokers etc,.
6digits,
Thats a good point because, I can think of a dozen more important things Rufus should be talking about instead of shorters or the SEC. I've noticed that on subpennyradio that Simon just isnt forceful enough with Rufus so he never really gets the questions answered that we want to know about. Rufus needs to quit BSing to buy more time and quit trying to get our attention off the more important issues.
Posted by wv1973 on :
the fix is in -- that's the only way I can call it.
Posted by trade04 on :
today should be very interesting...and it better be blockbuster conference, no BS...just business
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I guess Dufus is now playing the squeeky wheel gets the grease logic by holding a meeting in D.C .He must really think that he's going to play this his way and just forget all about the pending suit against him with the SEC . There's no way some idiotic cowboy like Dufus is well connected with anyone of power . He doesn't even have an attorney ............ and I'm betting his broke off his a$$ .
I sure would like to hear from Sabra or Mitch right about now . I bet they have a hell of a story to tell .
He's broke? Have you been to his horse stables lmao..far from broke
I'll bet you $100.00 that he doesn't own that property . Its either leased or he conned someone into letting him use it .
Posted by 3403 on :
As "OUR" employee Rufus must perform or be terminated. "It's so simple it's stupid"
Posted by 6digits on :
wv, I read your post anything that has to do with the assets and making this biz work is important, whether your issues will be addressed or not is out of my control.
Posted by Spooky on :
Anyone remember what town the Texas get together was in? was it Houston?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Anyone remember what town the Texas get together was in? was it Houston?
Somewhere in the DFW area .
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: As "OUR" employee Rufus must perform or be terminated. "It's so simple it's stupid"
yes... the CEO works for the shareholders.. not vice-versa...
that idea seems to have been cast aside over the last 25 years....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Anyone remember what town the Texas get together was in? was it Houston?
think it was allen texas
Posted by TexasMoney on :
That's correct - Allen, TX. The restaurant was La Finca (HWY 75 & Bethanny)
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Anyone remember what town the Texas get together was in? was it Houston?
think it was allen texas
Posted by 6digits on :
The conference is 2 hours away and I don't see anything about it in my email. According to the notice I got I signed up for the shareholders committee. Any one else expecting to hear something?
Posted by Jenna on :
I also am signed up & heard nothing but perhaps we are not a part of the chosen few....
Posted by a surfer on :
I have not gotten anything either.
Portman you out there. whats the dealio???
Posted by 6digits on :
Jenna-Perhaps not, it isn't clear who is invited, at least it's misleading. Next I have to figure out how to know what's going on afterwards, find a way to get a clue.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I also am signed up & heard nothing but perhaps we are not a part of the chosen few....
Posted by a surfer on :
Hi jenna. and hi all.
Been gone for a couple days to do what I like best.
I am glad to see the 8k and some type of order in a seemingly dismal situation.
I Sincerely believe that if Rufus puts action first we will prevail.
I have e-mailed James to see if I can get some answers.
Posted by 6digits on :
I hope nobody thinks that I'm gonna take part in some kind of demonstration in DC. I don't get payed enough for that no.1 and I might not even know what i'm demonstrating.no.2. And if we ain't up and trading way before that date it's guaranteed I won't go.no.3 So it's 1 for the money 2 for the show 3 for the dough, then I go go go.
Posted by 6digits on :
Thanks a surfer.
Posted by 6digits on :
If I get a chance to talk to Rufus again i'll tell him it's not funny anymore.
Posted by frank021474 on :
What # were we calling the other day and it said it was disconnected?
Still haven't heard anything about the Conf call today.
C O R R E C T I O N -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp/ 11.17.06, 5:00 PM ET
In the news release, "Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting," sent earlier today by Conversion Solutions Holding Corp via PR Newswire, we are advised by the company the contact information for the media should be, +1-404-393-9824, rather than +1-678-758-3010 as originally issued inadvertently.
C O R R E C T I O N -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp/ 11.17.06, 5:00 PM ET
In the news release, "Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting," sent earlier today by Conversion Solutions Holding Corp via PR Newswire, we are advised by the company the contact information for the media should be, +1-404-393-9824, rather than +1-678-758-3010 as originally issued inadvertently.
C O R R E C T I O N -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp/ 11.17.06, 5:00 PM ET
In the news release, "Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting," sent earlier today by Conversion Solutions Holding Corp via PR Newswire, we are advised by the company the contact information for the media should be, +1-404-393-9824, rather than +1-678-758-3010 as originally issued inadvertently.
Sorry guys went away fron the computer for a little bit...Hi Surf....
6, I don't think we're invited.... Posted by 6digits on :
3403, please confirm that you got it, somehow.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Could be worse- they could have used Evite Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: 3403, please confirm that you got it, somehow.
the email?
Posted by 6digits on :
Jenna, it looks that way. Somebody needs to describe things better in their PR. There's suppposed to be about 800 people on the shareholder committee.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Sorry guys went away fron the computer for a little bit...Hi Surf....
6, I don't think we're invited....
Posted by 6digits on :
3403 ya the email, what else? Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: 3403, please confirm that you got it, somehow.
the email?
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: 3403 ya the email, what else? :confused: Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: 3403, please confirm that you got it, somehow.
the email?
Hello all shareholders. I just wanted to give everyone a quick line to let you know where we are. Rufus Harris has appointed me as the chairman of the shareholders committee. I know that this will be a difficult task to perform alone. Assistance by everyone will be needed if we are to succeed. Currently our website is being constructed. I am working with Rufus on the bylaws of the committee. I do not know much more than you but I do know that this is an important step for us. One voice in a crowded room may not be heard but 800 voices will be loud and clear.
I have a few quotes that speak volumes to my ideas of the committee. One believe it or not was from Babe Ruth: "The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club wont be worth a dime." The other is from Vince Lombardi: "Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work."
One of the first matters of business will be the other two members of the committee. Rufus will give me instruction as to whether we need to vote or if I am to appoint them. More than likely what we will do is use the nomination web page to calculate the amount of times a given person is nominated. After the two additional members are appointed we will conduct and interview more than likely on SPR or use a conference call format. That will be determined. There are many issues that need our immediate attention. Once I hear word from the company as to what the next step is we will inform all of you.
I have received numerous emails from shareholders who included multiply people in their email. With the number of emails please understand that it would have taken forever to enter all of these. If these people wish to be included please have them email me directly.
If anyone has important questions please feel free to email me. There is no need to respond to this email. It does take some time to go through all of these emails and this is not a paying position so please be conscious of the board's time. Thanks for all of the people that have helped me along the way thus far and in the future.
James Gee
Chairman CSHD Shareholders Committee
Posted by TexasMoney on :
$100 bucks says they F'UP the conference call. This company couldn't successfully **** into the grand canyon.
Posted by 6digits on :
3403, I got that one a couple of days ago. It doesn't pertain to whats going on right now from the PR. I'd have to say it makes little sense what is going on from the PR. I'd be lying to myself if I didn't.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: 3403, I got that one a couple of days ago. It doesn't pertain to whats going on right now from the PR. I'd have to say it makes little sense what is going on from the PR. I'd be lying to myself if I didn't.
?????????????????
Posted by 6digits on :
Back to specalatin.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I hope to Christ this isn’t going to be another conspiracy theory diatribe by Rufus. We all understand NSS and how it could be a factor with CSHD “BEFORE” the suspension. But, since the day of the suspension it has been nothing but CSHD and RPH tripping all over there collective ignorance and at times stupidity.
[*]No legal counsel [*]Little to no corporation with the SEC [*]Not filing on time
Well, just too many dumb things to mention. Here we are fifteen minutes until the supposed conference call and still nobody knows what the hell is going on. It’s amazing how consistently dumb this company is.
Posted by 3403 on :
Texas be careful what you say the Mod Nazi's might get you like they got me.
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
I think it's safe to say this isn't going to happen today....
sssssiiiiigggghhhhhhhh
Posted by 3403 on :
I emailed dogman. If anyone knows about the conference call he should. Will let everyone know what he says if he replies.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
OK - But, I hope they at least tell me what part of my statement was incorrect before I get banned.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Texas be careful what you say the Mod Nazi's might get you like they got me.
Posted by 6digits on :
The PR should have stated what was at that time considered the shareholder committee to avoid confusion.
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I emailed dogman. If anyone knows about the conference call he should. Will let everyone know what he says if he replies.
I also emailed him...no response since noon CST.
Posted by Spooky on :
I saw a post on HSM about an hour ago that intimated that James (Dogman) had not heard from Rufus yet on details about the conference call.
Posted by 6digits on :
The horses, he got distracted with the horses!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Did I get any takers? If so, PM me and I'll tell you where to mail your check.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: $100 bucks says they F'UP the conference call. This company couldn't successfully **** into the grand canyon.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Did I get any takers? If so, PM me and I'll tell you where to mail your check.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: $100 bucks says they F'UP the conference call. This company couldn't successfully **** into the grand canyon.
I guess we wait and see what we hear-
Posted by 6digits on :
The way I see it anything that was any use for the shareholders could have been PRed anyway. Update on a market maker Date of 10Q filing and just about everything else this guy says he does.
Posted by cassity on :
James said, "they are working out the last minute details, don't worry".
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I appreciate the update and wish it brought me some comfort.
quote:Originally posted by cassity: James said, "they are working out the last minute details, don't worry".
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Chances are the number will be emailed out about 1/2 hour before the teleconference is to start...
Posted by Jenna on :
This was posted on HSM - thought we needed a little humor right now.........
#6196 niceguytom10 HSM Addict
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Posts: 2,156 for those of you going to DC i wouldn't even show till the 19th at the earliest!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Ok we are all set- whos got the number???
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
Ok we are all set- whos got the number???
Holy crap that's funny! I think you cured my hangover! Posted by St. Matthew on :
Attention: I just spoke with Tut and he said that he is working on getting the information that you are all looking for. He has been bombarded with PM's and e-mails and asked if I would post this information. He is making phone calls and should have some information soon. Please be patient and stop giving the enemy ammunition. Posted by frank021474 on :
I guess James (Dogmando) is on Paltalk- he mentioned the conf call was between him and CSHD. Anyone have Paltalk up? This is 2nd hand so needs some investigation.
Posted by Jenna on :
You know what, even if the call is between James & Rufus - I don't care, as long as he's asking those questions from the shareholders letter to Rufus.....(and of course I'd like him to let us know the answers)....
Posted by frank021474 on :
My thoughts exactly Jenna! Guess Sat night is open now LOL!
I was thinking of a 2hr long RPH marathon.
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanx Matt.........
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I guess James (Dogmando) is on Paltalk- he mentioned the conf call was between him and CSHD. Anyone have Paltalk up? This is 2nd hand so needs some investigation.
im on paltalk right now! ur correct.
Posted by cassity on :
This is what I have thus far, I'll try to keep yall updated:
dogmando: I HAVE NOT APPOINTED THE REPS AS OF RIGHT NOW dogmando: I WAS TOLD BY RUFUS TO DO SO dogmando: I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO POST THIS ON HSM PLEASE WHEN I AM FINISHED dogmando: I AM GOING TO BRING 10 PEOPLE IN THE CALL WITH ME dogmando: THEY MAY NOT BE THE REPS BUT I WANT A GOOD MIX OF PEOPLE dogmando: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THIS ON ALLSTOCKS AS WELL
Posted by frank021474 on :
Thx Cass-
Posted by luvforever on :
so no one can hear the conference today?
Posted by cassity on :
This is what I have thus far, I'll try to keep yall updated:
dogmando: I HAVE NOT APPOINTED THE REPS AS OF RIGHT NOW dogmando: I WAS TOLD BY RUFUS TO DO SO dogmando: I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO POST THIS ON HSM PLEASE WHEN I AM FINISHED dogmando: I AM GOING TO BRING 10 PEOPLE IN THE CALL WITH ME dogmando: THEY MAY NOT BE THE REPS BUT I WANT A GOOD MIX OF PEOPLE dogmando: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THIS ON ALLSTOCKS AS WELL
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cassity? Is Portman around in paltalk?
Posted by portman on :
I am there
Posted by cassity on :
Some more:
dogmando: I WISH EVERYONE COULD BE A PART OF THE CALL BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A PROXY VOTE OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WILL NEED TO BE HEARD ABOUT dogmando: IT IS MAINLY ABOUT SURVEYS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC IN A FEW DAYS dogmando: I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ARE UPSET THAT EVERYONE CANT BE ON THE CALL BUT THIS IS NOT A QUESTIONS AND ANSWER SESSION.
Posted by thesource on :
This company cannot even organize a phone call but is suppose to invest billions for other companies and governments ???
You guy have to be able to see the writing on the wall but are just choosing to look the other way . Posted by wv1973 on :
I think we ought to invest in apple computer. Some new dd just came out:
Apple Computer reported today that it has developed computer chips that can Store and play music, and be implanted inside women's breasts.
This is considered to be a major breakthrough and solves a BIG problem Because women have always complained about men staring at their breasts and Not listening to them.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Attention: I just spoke with Tut and he said that he is working on getting the information that you are all looking for. He has been bombarded with PM's and e-mails and asked if I would post this information. He is making phone calls and should have some information soon. Please be patient and stop giving the enemy ammunition. :cool:
who's the enemy? rufus?
Posted by cassity on :
dogmando: THERE WILL BE NO SECRETS dogmando: YES WE WILL RECORD THE CALL AND PUBLISH IF WE NEED TO dogmando: I SPOKE TO RUFUS FOR AN HOUR dogmando: I AM SO CONFIDENT RIGHT NOW IT ISNT FUNNY
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Some more:
dogmando: I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ARE UPSET THAT EVERYONE CANT BE ON THE CALL BUT THIS IS NOT A QUESTIONS AND ANSWER SESSION.
Come on folks- settle down. Everyones acting like they are the kids that don't get picked for kick ball.
I posted this exact thing this morning. The company called for the conf call and it already had an agenda to discuss. Could they achieve it with 109008 people hollering WHERES THE BONDS WHOS YOUR LAWYER WHATS YOUR FAVORITE COLOR.
It has never been stated that it would be a Q&A session to reveal the mysteries surrounding CSHD. Lets see what comes out after the call. Perhaps the answers you are all looking for will come out.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I just asked Dog if the Shareholders letter will be addressed and he said "Yes" Pretty sure that answer was directed towards me... it was on the paltalk scroll... gotta go help take care of a little 3 1/2 year old Ima Hang tight
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Cassity? Is Portman around in paltalk?
yes!
Posted by highhopes on :
Come on...the PR said this initial call was for the committee. It is not at all easy to set up a call for an unknown number of shareholders to call in and listen. My sense is that the company will put the type of resources necessary to do this for the shareholders meeting but they did not intend to for this session. So sorry Source but your argument does not make sense.
Posted by milliam on :
I think the problem was a mis-understanding in the PR. I think everyone has figured out by now that the call isn't for all of the shareholders. The call is just for the committee, which at this time is James.
Soooo...how can you say that the company can't orgainize a phone call?
Posted by thesource on :
Ok , then tape the conversation and let it be heard like the one USSE did a few weeks ago . Problem solved ........
Posted by cassity on :
Dog made it very clear that we will all be updated with everything that goes on in the call. It doesn't sound like it will happen real soon. I'll keep you updated the best I can.
Posted by Jenna on :
Really guys this thread is getting BAD.....lots of fighting & NO substance.......PLEASE let's STOP!!!!!!!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Dog made it very clear that we will all be updated with everything that goes on in the call. It doesn't sound like it will happen real soon. I'll keep you updated the best I can.
When I say soon, I mean in the next hour. James said it will be recorded, and publicly published.
Posted by wv1973 on :
The other day someone equated the events to a soap opera. I now tend to disagree. I believe I'm in the middle of a Three Stooges movie. Hey 3403 -- got any downloads -- yuck, yuck, yuck. Why certainly.
Posted by cassity on :
Sorry Tex.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I share in others disgust with this company. Here we are under SEC investigation for erroneous press releases and what do we do? Issue another erroneous press release! And, before you folks hammer me about this press release NOT be erroneous lets review the definition:
not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth; "an incorrect calculation"; "the report in the paper is wrong"; "your information is wrong"; "the clock showed the wrong time"; "found themselves on the wrong road"; "based on the wrong assumptions.
This isn’t even funny anymore. You cannot issue a press release that says: “CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM” and then not do that. I signed up for the shareholder committee just like hundreds of other people.
Understand that I’m NOT, NOT so pissed about being excluded from this purported “meeting”. What pisses me off is that these IDIOTS keep pushing out errenous press release in direct violation of the SEC injunction putting MY investment at risk. CARELESS, RECKLESS, INEXCUSABLE! Posted by TexasMoney on :
This just gets better! The one shareholder who has ZERO objectivity is one of the few people in one the phone call.
Today, 05:23 PM #6488 jesuspower1 HSM Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,189 Ok...the call is on right now and we're just waitn on Rufus.
He has a lawyer...ABSOLUTELY! Dogman is full of confidence! __________________
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: I think we ought to invest in apple computer. Some new dd just came out:
Apple Computer reported today that it has developed computer chips that can Store and play music, and be implanted inside women's breasts.
This is considered to be a major breakthrough and solves a BIG problem Because women have always complained about men staring at their breasts and Not listening to them.
now that's funny!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
If you liked that one TexasMoney you will love this one:
jesuspower1 HSM Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,190 I wasn't going to comment on this, but this is too much! Don't be rediculous!
Those that are on the call have been asked to be based on a few factors: trust, attitude toward the company, their understanding, willingness, among other things!
So get off the pity party and be thankful that you are a part of the company's shareholder base!
Posted by etouqe123 on :
What I dont get is if the company knows what they have (assets) and these shares are supposed to be over $70/share then why isnt CSHD buying the crap out of there own shares. Makes you think.....hmmmmm
Posted by TexasMoney on :
You could have at least cautioned me to get a bag first. Now I have to clean my vomit off the floor.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If you liked that one TexasMoney you will love this one:
jesuspower1 HSM Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,190 I wasn't going to comment on this, but this is too much! Don't be rediculous!
Those that are on the call have been asked to be based on a few factors: trust, attitude toward the company, their understanding, willingness, among other things!
So get off the pity party and be thankful that you are a part of the company's shareholder base!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Was it a 5-bagger?
Posted by mathis on :
a little humor from hsm
[QUOTE=niceguytom10]meeting update
rufus: k you are the ten best shareholders i got, any of you good with photoshop.....
tony:why
rufus: cause we need more bonds
:LOL: :LOL: j/k
seriously hope they figure some stuff out tonight!!![/QUOTE]
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This just gets better! The one shareholder who has ZERO objectivity is one of the few people in one the phone call.
Today, 05:23 PM #6488 jesuspower1 HSM Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,189 Ok...the call is on right now and we're just waitn on Rufus.
He has a lawyer...ABSOLUTELY! Dogman is full of confidence! __________________
I'd like to see at least one objective person in on it, but it looks like only kool aid drinkers are allowed.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I think that portman is objective..and he is "in on it"
Posted by wv1973 on :
You are right penny and TM. That's why I predict the major report from the supposed call will be -- "We will answer all your questions in DC."
Posted by 3403 on :
I know I have made fun of this CSHD situation. In fact I got kicked off for making fun of it. Listen give this guy a brake. He's trying to get it together, be patient, understanding, okay? Look, just because a company has billion dollars doesn't mean you should waste it on an attorney, conference call experts, or even stationary for that matter. These savings will all be dividends....
Posted by wv1973 on :
You are right 3403. It's probably part of the master plan. Good post. Good DD!!!
Posted by 66inxs on :
you know 3403 with 19 million in a/r and all of those bonds the company would get a dedicated fax line, but hey, you know!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey guys...turn out the lights when you leave... Posted by Gullible on :
3403 break
Posted by 3403 on :
Come on, don't be so critical. It is the holiday season. Maybe they got tied up in traffic.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Oh crap, maybe the PR meant 5:00 p.m. --- pacific time. Or the phone company screwed up.
Posted by 66inxs on :
yea stop horsing around here!
Posted by 3403 on :
wv watching the Ohio State Michigan game?
Posted by wv1973 on :
Oh no, I just heard his dog ate the bonds
Posted by wv1973 on :
yep, OSU just put nail in coffin
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I think that portman is objective..and he is "in on it"
He sure is objective!! I'm glad he is in on it....
Posted by 6digits on :
I wonder what paltalk room they were at?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Yes, you all need to calm down. JesusPower1 will be out shortly with unbiased information that will clearly provide you an evangelical view of our situation. I have my rosary in hand; a candle is lit, and I await the word of Jesus.
Indeed, I am now comfortable and relaxed
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Oh no, I just heard his dog ate the bonds
Stupid posts like these are what drive the strong message board members away.
Clean up a little?
Posted by 3403 on :
Is portman going to report back?
Posted by wv1973 on :
Jenna, then email him, pm him, call him and ask him not to come back to this board w/o solid information, solid proof everyone can see now, and not to say we will have to be patient and wait until DC.
Posted by 10of13 on :
One last post before I leave... 66? you post on other boards that you have sold out...and then you come here and post that you still have shares...you are lying...somewhere...just not sure where...or why..AND? I don't care.. The rest that are still posting here? I have noticed that the majority are fairly new to this board..AND? I ask..why did you decide to join allstocks? Was it because of the "ignorance" of the posters? was it because it was nothing but a bunch of Kool-aide drinkers? Or was it because it was an honest board that appeared to be just a little above the others? the posts from today? are all to "IHUB" like... I understand the anger and the disappointment...I don't understand the stupidity...
Go ahead and post away...enjoy yourselves and make yourselves happier by name calling and the ignorant comments... I hope that it all works out for the best...for everyone...enjoy....
Posted by wv1973 on :
LMAO frank
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Jenna, then email him, pm him, call him and ask him not to come back to this board w/o solid information, solid proof everyone can see now, and not to say we will have to be patient and wait until DC.
Thats what I'm talking about !!! The bull$hit stops here and now . Lets see some cold hard proof .
Posted by Gullible on :
Hello board, I am new to posting, and dont know anything about investing. But I am learning from all of you. I bought chsd in October, and you couldnt get it away from me unless you pryed it from my cold dead hand. I wish all the best for all of you.
Posted by 6digits on :
I tcould be hours before we hear anything now. If the call is anything like SPR. Posted by etouqe123 on :
Yes, you all need to calm down. JesusPower1 will be out shortly with unbiased information that will clearly provide you an evangelical view of our situation. I have my rosary in hand; a candle is lit, and I await the word of Jesus.
Thanks Texas, I feel so much better knowing that the person represeting us on the call has stated in the past that he's not selling his shares till they hit $1000pps. So I'm sure whatever Rufus say we'll get a fair and balanced account of the phone call.
Posted by milliam on :
From what I've seen posted here, I'm pretty sure you'll all get to hear the phone call after it is done. I also expect a summary to come out of the questions that were asked and the answers given. The people in on the call probably aren't as harsh as some of you might like, but the letter that was posted on here seemed to get to the point pretty well. I feel and hope that we will all have good, honest answers soon.
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I share in others disgust with this company. Here we are under SEC investigation for erroneous press releases and what do we do? Issue another erroneous press release! And, before you folks hammer me about this press release NOT be erroneous lets review the definition:
not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth; "an incorrect calculation"; "the report in the paper is wrong"; "your information is wrong"; "the clock showed the wrong time"; "found themselves on the wrong road"; "based on the wrong assumptions.
This isn’t even funny anymore. You cannot issue a press release that says: “CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM” and then not do that. I signed up for the shareholder committee just like hundreds of other people.
Understand that I’m NOT, NOT so pissed about being excluded from this purported “meeting”. What pisses me off is that these IDIOTS keep pushing out errenous press release in direct violation of the SEC injunction putting MY investment at risk. CARELESS, RECKLESS, INEXCUSABLE!
Basher! Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Yes, you all need to calm down. JesusPower1 will be out shortly with unbiased information that will clearly provide you an evangelical view of our situation. I have my rosary in hand; a candle is lit, and I await the word of Jesus.
Thanks Texas, I feel so much better knowing that the person represeting us on the call has stated in the past that he's not selling his shares till they hit $1000pps. So I'm sure whatever Rufus say we'll get a fair and balanced account of the phone call.
really? that makes you feel *GOOD* ????
$1000 pps?
seems abhorently irresponsible to me...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Jenna, then email him, pm him, call him and ask him not to come back to this board w/o solid information, solid proof everyone can see now, and not to say we will have to be patient and wait until DC.
Who are you talking about Portman?
Posted by wv1973 on :
The call can't last that long. Rufus will probably run out of quarters soon
Posted by wv1973 on :
yes, jenna, portman
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Yes, you all need to calm down. JesusPower1 will be out shortly with unbiased information that will clearly provide you an evangelical view of our situation. I have my rosary in hand; a candle is lit, and I await the word of Jesus.
Thanks Texas, I feel so much better knowing that the person represeting us on the call has stated in the past that he's not selling his shares till they hit $1000pps. So I'm sure whatever Rufus say we'll get a fair and balanced account of the phone call.
really? that makes you feel *GOOD* ????
$1000 pps?
seems abhorently irresponsible to me...
i think that was sarcasm
Posted by wv1973 on :
Or anyone you know on the call, jenna
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Yes, you all need to calm down. JesusPower1 will be out shortly with unbiased information that will clearly provide you an evangelical view of our situation. I have my rosary in hand; a candle is lit, and I await the word of Jesus.
Thanks Texas, I feel so much better knowing that the person represeting us on the call has stated in the past that he's not selling his shares till they hit $1000pps. So I'm sure whatever Rufus say we'll get a fair and balanced account of the phone call.
really? that makes you feel *GOOD* ????
$1000 pps?
seems abhorently irresponsible to me...
i think that was sarcasm
ooops Posted by 3403 on :
10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
1. kool aid drinker
Someone who beleives what they are told without thinking for themselves. From the followers of Jim Jones in Guyana who committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid drinkers are buying this stock because their broker recommended it.
Posted by 3403 on :
OHHHH. That's me...
Posted by milliam on :
Actually, my broker didn't quite recommend it...I'm with TDA .
Posted by 66inxs on :
well enough for me tonight. it will be interesting to see how the conference call works out. back to work on the car.
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Actually, my broker didn't quite recommend it...I'm with TDA .
actually i should have quoted the whole thing...the last line was an 'example' of kool-aid in a sentence. It was from urban dictionary
Posted by Jenna on :
I think we ALL know a few people in on the call....
they posted the Shareholder Letter that they were going to fax to him or somehow present to Rufus & that letter represents us all - if - you guys read it I am sure you would agree that it was well written with some important questions...
I don't understand - there's been a lot of confusion going on lately because of unanswered questions & that's understandable....so people have demanded a PR & some answers to some important questions...& then we get a PR that states there will be a meeting via telephone which is a good thing.....& we possibly could have some questions answered & it's still doesn't please people......WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THEY SAY AFTER THE CALL IS THROUGH.....
That's all.........
This thread really needs to get cleaned up.....
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
This thread really needs to get cleaned up.....
couldn't agree more
Posted by Gullible on :
Jenna you should be a mod, or are you. By the way Hello.
Posted by Jenna on :
I think we ALL know a few people in on the call....
they posted the Shareholder Letter that they were going to fax to him or somehow present to Rufus & that letter represents us all - if - you guys read it I am sure you would agree that it was well written with some important questions...
I don't understand - there's been a lot of confusion going on lately because of unanswered questions & that's understandable....so people have demanded a PR & some answers to some important questions...& then we get a PR that states there will be a meeting via telephone which is a good thing.....& we possibly could have some questions answered & it's still doesn't please people......WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THEY SAY AFTER THE CALL IS THROUGH.....
That's all.........
This thread really needs to get cleaned up.....
Posted by frank021474 on :
Jenna- just cause we are males doesn't mean you have to repeat yourself Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
This thread really needs to get cleaned up.....
couldn't agree more....again Posted by stocktrader22 on :
This is so stupid to be worked up about. Either Rufus produces or he doesnt.
Posted by 3403 on :
Well if you all don't like the conversation while we wait for our well deserved information, check in later....
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Jenna you should be a mod, or are you. By the way Hello.
Welcome Gullible!!! Hey why do you call yourself that? OOOPs ...did that last post of mine post twice? OOOHH so sorry....
No, not a MOD, that's a lot of work...I'll leave that to Glassman & Tex...they can have it - there very good at it!! *Wave*
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Jenna- just cause we are males doesn't mean you have to repeat yourself
So Sorry!!! OOOPS...
Posted by Jenna on :
Funny Revelare!!! Posted by milliam on :
Cassity...any more updates from Paltalk? What room are yall in over there?
Posted by etouqe123 on :
I just saw this in the new Websters online dictionary.
Ruf**** [ruuf ****] n. 1.making outrageous claims that are imposible to verify 2. To make a statement of outrageous claims.
Posted by Gullible on :
Jenna *wave* because I believe everything I am told.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
1. kool aid drinker
Someone who beleives what they are told without thinking for themselves. From the followers of Jim Jones in Guyana who committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid drinkers are buying this stock because their broker recommended it.
dang. here i been thinking it came from the Tom Wolfe Book... holy moly...
I will refrain from an opinion for now, but I have been asking myself "Why does a company ask its shareholders for an emergency meeting without telling them the terms of the meeting? And not one, but two!" - and would ask you to comntemplate this question as well.
Boards of directors, unions and departments routinely have emergenecy meetings for comapnies(I have been privy to a couple of these). They are typically in response to sudden news or events- and are often unpleasant (e.g. hostile takeovers, litigation, whatever). I do not know for a fact that the meeting will reveal bad things, but its sudden emergence, the clandestine nature of the PR and the meeting, and use of the word 'emergency' are not encouraging.
As Rufus has elected to remain less than transparent regarding these meetings at this time, I can only hope for the best, but remain at a minimum suspicious.
Posted by Gullible on :
Someone told me to buy cshd cause its gonna fly, I said OK.
Posted by wv1973 on :
exactly bilgert. I asked that same question pages ago
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: I just saw this in the new Websters online dictionary.
Ruf**** [ruuf ****] n. 1.making outrageous claims that are imposible to verify 2. To make a statement of outrageous claims.
Are you upset you haven't been able to upgrade your mode of transportation with this stock?
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
1. kool aid drinker
Someone who beleives what they are told without thinking for themselves. From the followers of Jim Jones in Guyana who committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid drinkers are buying this stock because their broker recommended it.
dang. here i been thinking it came from the Tom Wolfe Book... holy moly...
I suppose you're right, 1978 is when the mass suicide happened, and 1968 is the publish date on the Tom Wolfe book...
Urban Dictionary and I stand corrected...i will go quietly
Posted by glassman on :
Jerry Garcia thanks you Revelare Pecunia, just draw the curtains and curse the glare...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Jenna *wave* because I believe everything I am told.
No Crap really....
Do you want to come over to my 10,000 square foot home.....you can meet my father Dr. Phil Magraw.....he's in town from LA - you may of heard of him. He has his own tv show... Posted by Gullible on :
Yeah that sounds cool. I love TV
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Someone told me to buy cshd cause its gonna fly, I said OK.
I knew when I saw your name you would be trouble.....
Posted by glassman on :
Jenna, we're cousins...
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: dogmando: THERE WILL BE NO SECRETS dogmando: YES WE WILL RECORD THE CALL AND PUBLISH IF WE NEED TO dogmando: I SPOKE TO RUFUS FOR AN HOUR dogmando: I AM SO CONFIDENT RIGHT NOW IT ISNT FUNNY
If Rufus spoke to a peanut for an hour it would be confident.
Tony Robbins better watch his step.
Seriously though, we need answers to the questions posted earlier in that letter.
Is the paltalk conversation still going on???
Posted by Revelare Pecunia on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Yeah that sounds cool. I love TV
LOL Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: I just saw this in the new Websters online dictionary.
Ruf**** [ruuf ****] n. 1.making outrageous claims that are imposible to verify 2. To make a statement of outrageous claims.
Are you upset you haven't been able to upgrade your mode of transportation with this stock?
Frank- is that Kevin Bailey in the back????
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Jenna, we're cousins...
Stop!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL Jenna!
You have PM.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
quote: Are you upset you haven't been able to upgrade your mode of transportation with this stock?
Upgrade? hell, I cant even buy a bus pass with my CSHD shares
Posted by Jenna on :
It's ok etouqe123- we already we're still all going to Las Vegas we're just going to ride our bike's there.....
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: It's ok etouqe123- we already decided we're still all going to Las Vegas we're just going to ride our bike's there.....
Posted by Gullible on :
Jenna that was a joke, I believe in this company and I will hold forever. Thanks for being the first to say Hello.
Posted by Jenna on :
What is this thing doing- I'm not even double posting - it's possesed!!!!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Jenna- having post issues? Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Jenna that was a joke, I believe in this company and I will hold forever. Thanks for being the first to say Hello.
I was just joking too.....like I said WELCOME... my CSHD brotha...or sista...but I'm guessing brotha...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: What is this thing doing- I'm not even double posting - it's possesed!!!!
I think its a chair2keyboard error.
Someplace between the chair and the keyboard=error
Posted by Gullible on :
Why?
Posted by milliam on :
According to Jesuspower:
Originally Posted by Joy JP- Is the call still going on?
Yes...sounds like it's going to be a while.
Posted by Gullible on :
Frank is that like a nut loose on the keyboard?
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL Gull!
Posted by Jenna on :
Jees Gull- you're fitting right in- aren't you? Posted by Gullible on :
I would like to. Thaks
Posted by Jenna on :
I'll check back in a while......
For now I'll give you a topic to discuss.....
Playstation - what with it?
Discuss- I'm verclempt.... (Did I do that right? From SNL...)
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks
Posted by Gullible on :
I just wanted to say hello, I have been reading this board for a while and i feel like I know a lot of you very well. Unfortunately I have nothing intelligent to add, so I will just continue to learn from you. Good luck to all.
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 Are you awake, do you have a poem for us?
Posted by Jenna on :
Gullible - there's a lot of people here with nothing intelligent to say....HaHa just kidding ...we should all go do what we got to do & check in later...Gull come back later ...see you then....
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks Jenna I will, Is it Champagne time yet?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, koolaid only right now. Hey, I wonder if Jesuspower1 can turn our koolaid into wine?
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks Jenna I will, Is it Champagne time yet?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Well, I just spent about an hours over at HSM having fun. Just stop by and tell them “I love the SEC” and watch the fur fly. Good times!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Hello Gullible...not sure what to think about your handle, but welcome.
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Jenna that was a joke, I believe in this company and I will hold forever. Thanks for being the first to say Hello.
Posted by luvforever on :
How musch sooner to hear about our shareholder meeting that we couldn't hear for ourselves? ha ha LOL I didn't sell yet but I will if they come out with bad news watch I will sell it tomorrow morning!........................ ~LOL j/k it's sunday! The darn markets not open ~LOL .......guess I won't sell'em then ~LOL
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks St Mat, its like I had to think of something that nobody else was using. I respect your posts, knowledge, and DD.
Posted by Gullible on :
As well as many others on here.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
LOL...really hard. Now that's funny stuff.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Well, I just spent about an hours over at HSM having fun. Just stop by and tell them “I love the SEC” and watch the fur fly. Good times!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Thanks...just trying to pull my weight. There are many wonderful, intelligent and talented people here.
Be careful though...every now and then the bad guys show up like a pack of Hyenas
Build solid relationships and trust only who you trust...make sense?
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks St Mat, its like I had to think of something that nobody else was using. I respect your posts, knowledge, and DD.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Well the meeting is not over yet... sounds like they are addressing the letter. That makes me feel good, I liked the letter... I know that normal meetings can take some time and this is no ordinary meeting, shoot it took long enough just to get it started LOL. Further Simon and Rufus have talked on and on into the night... sounds like they have been asked not to report on the meeting until it's completion... sooooo we could get word back at 3am I hope not but nothing suprises me anymore I'm off to watch a movie with my Girlfriend (She says "hi" and is a shareholder bytheway) Ta Ta Ima
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Hey Milliam...good evening my friend.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: According to Jesuspower:
Originally Posted by Joy JP- Is the call still going on?
Yes...sounds like it's going to be a while.
Posted by Gullible on :
Absolutely, I have done a lot of filtering already. I have a pretty good idea of who the real people are on here. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks Jenna I will, Is it Champagne time yet?
Gullible- when you said chamagne time...were you talking about my "signature" good bye everynight?
If you were it's not time for that yet...but I'm checking in & out every once & a while.....I don't stay away that long do I? DAMN- this is addicting....
By the way...HI BILGERT!!!! I saw you peek your head in long time no see...I didn't mean to yell at you last time...glad to see you around...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
LOL...You are aging yourself...LOL.
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
1. kool aid drinker
Someone who beleives what they are told without thinking for themselves. From the followers of Jim Jones in Guyana who committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid drinkers are buying this stock because their broker recommended it.
Posted by Gullible on :
Yes Jenna I was hopeing it wasnt lights out yet.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Hey cuteness...heard from Tut lately? J/K
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks Jenna I will, Is it Champagne time yet?
Gullible- when you said chamagne time...were you talking about my "signature" good bye everynight?
If you were it's not time for that yet...but I'm checking in & out every once & a while.....I don't stay away that long do I? DAMN- this is addicting....
By the way...HI BILGERT!!!! I say you peek your head in long time no see...I didn't mean to yell at you last time...glad to see you around...
Posted by Jenna on :
Not yet Gullible, not yet, my friend...I'm afraid I won't be able to say good night until we hear the results of the meeting & then discuss it.....
Posted by Gullible on :
Same here, spinning my wheels.
Posted by Jenna on :
Yes- I have Mr. Matt.....just call me CLeOPatRa.....RRRRAAAARRRR....
Posted by Jenna on :
Hey Matt- Have you heard from Sabra? Posted by 3403 on :
Guilible we are all real people here. Some choose to make funnies, some choose to be critical, some choose to have blind faith but we are all here together. There are no enemies like some try to make us think. Being critical or angry does not make one an enemy of CSHD. The truth is already set in stone, we are just trying to read the hieroglyphics. Don't get sucked in to all the goody two shoe back patters.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Now, if this board was fair and balanced, the bashers should be rushing in to say that Gullible is a plant. Why wait til now to post? Too kissy uppy. Trying to get five stars?
Not that I'm a basher, far from it, but it is a little much.
Posted by milliam on :
Howdy Matt...seen you over at HSM as well.
Welcome to you Gullible.
Jenna, I look forward to reading your thoughts on the results of the meeting in the morning...there's no way I'll be up late enough to discuss it !
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks 3403, what happened to your happy poems.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks 3403, what happened to your happy poems.
Mod Nazi's
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks Milliam!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Howdy Matt...seen you over at HSM as well.
Welcome to you Gullible.
Jenna, I look forward to reading your thoughts on the results of the meeting in the morning...there's no way I'll be up late enough to discuss it !
Will do Milliam- I hope it's not to late - I have to work tomorrow but luckily I can set my own appoinment times...I still hope it's not an all nighter though...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Thanks 3403, what happened to your happy poems.
Mod Nazi's
3403- Stop! We ALL loved your poems....the only thing you got in trouble for was a misleading post - you posted that Rufus was in the hospital as a joke & the address to the hospital....you just forgot to put just joking at the bottom of the post- it was just poor judgment that's all....if it was that bad you would have still been banned.....so stop wininng & give us a poem already!!! Posted by thesource on :
Welcome Gullible ......... from the #1 basher who owns CSHD stock but wishes someone would buy it off of him .
As for advice , don't drink the kool aid and keep an open mind .
Posted by Jenna on :
Source - Don't try to steal Repo's title - He's the #1 Basher!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
I was happy when first here then I heard the others sneer
They got ticked with what I said so put their ban upon my head
Give some folks a little power then they think ther'n an ivory tower
Face to face I'm sure they cower because what they have isn't really power
They're kids at best as far as I see rather then debate they erase the slate
Oh well what the hell it's what I get for buying this shell
how's that Gullible
Posted by St. Matthew on :
No...she's dead to me...LOL j/k
I believe she just might rise again. Not sure though.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hey Matt- Have you heard from Sabra?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Guilible we are all real people here. Some choose to make funnies, some choose to be critical, some choose to have blind faith but we are all here together. There are no enemies like some try to make us think. Being critical or angry does not make one an enemy of CSHD. The truth is already set in stone, we are just trying to read the hieroglyphics. Don't get sucked in to all the goody two shoe back patters.
real people? how dare you insult me like that...
i am a silverback...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Just popped in to see who was on...this is my home though...you know that.
Can't stay on though. This is the first night in over 8 months that we do not have either kiddo... We just might get some sleep too.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Howdy Matt...seen you over at HSM as well.
Welcome to you Gullible.
Jenna, I look forward to reading your thoughts on the results of the meeting in the morning...there's no way I'll be up late enough to discuss it !
Posted by Gullible on :
Thanks Source, I appreciate all opinions. Havent had kool aid since I was 21.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Just poped in to see who was on...this is my home though...you know that.
Can't stay on though. This is the first night in over 8 months that we do not have either kiddo... We just might get some sleep too.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Howdy Matt...seen you over at HSM as well.
Welcome to you Gullible.
Jenna, I look forward to reading your thoughts on the results of the meeting in the morning...there's no way I'll be up late enough to discuss it !
Matt - DON'T WAIST IT BY SLEEPING!!!!!!!! Posted by Gullible on :
You Rock Jenna!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Source - Don't try to steal Repo's title - He's the #1 Basher!!!
I'm the #1 basher who actually owns the stock . Anyone need 3300 shares for the low low price of $2.00 per share ??? Going once , going twice ........
Posted by a surfer on :
welcome gullible!
Its nice to see the Florida people gaining strength.
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 that was good but you still sound bitter. Life is short enjoy it while you can.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Jenna,
Hence the word "too"... Know what I mean...nudge, nudge, say no more.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Just poped in to see who was on...this is my home though...you know that.
Can't stay on though. This is the first night in over 8 months that we do not have either kiddo... We just might get some sleep too.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Howdy Matt...seen you over at HSM as well.
Welcome to you Gullible.
Jenna, I look forward to reading your thoughts on the results of the meeting in the morning...there's no way I'll be up late enough to discuss it !
Matt - DON'T WAIST IT BY SLEEPING!!!!!!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: 3403 that was good but you still sound bitter. Life is short enjoy it while you can.
another lecture
Posted by Jenna on :
Matt- you dirty dog!!!
Posted by Gullible on :
Hey thanks surfer, are you in Florida or Hawaii.
Posted by 3403 on :
Jenna, if you remember I said Rufus would get better, but they had to shoot the horse. Now poor judgement would be not knowing that was a funny....
Posted by a surfer on :
Where are they in in paltalk???
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Hey thanks surfer, are you in Florida or Hawaii.
Florida mostly. Abacos also
Posted by Jenna on :
I remember 3403 - trying to forget....I definately have a sense of humor I was voted class clown in high school Greece Athena High School Class of '90....
I just prefer your poems - see your last one had me laughin out loud....
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I remember 3403 - trying to forget....I definately have a sense of humor I was voted class clown in high school Greece Athena High School Class of '90....
I just prefer your poems - see your last one had me laughin out loud....
Showing your age there Jenna.
Class of 88 here
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I remember 3403 - trying to forget....I definately have a sense of humor I was voted class clown in high school Greece Athena High School Class of '90....
I just prefer your poems - see your last one had me laughin out loud....
I sit here awaiting word on MY investment trying to lighten up the board and their worries and you get me banned. thks
Posted by Jenna on :
I got you banned? What are you talking about?
Posted by Doniboy on :
Just got in. Any news since yesterday?
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Does anybody know what happened with the meeting today? I thought it was over really quick, but then I heard some posters saying that it was still going on.
I was reading a little bit of the posts from the meeting but then I stopped when I seen one of the posts saying that the meeting was about what Rufus wanted the shareholders to do for the company. What we should do for the company!? I thought it should be the other way around.
Posted by Jenna on :
I heard they were requested to not post the happenings of the meeting until it was over....
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Uh, oh we got ourselves another silly one here. No, you are not permitted to ask questions that involve logic and reason. If you wish to address CSHD you must use unbridled, happy good thoughts. Go get some koolaid and then come back and see us.
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Does anybody know what happened with the meeting today? I thought it was over really quick, but then I heard some posters saying that it was still going on.
I was reading a little bit of the posts from the meeting but then I stopped when I seen one of the posts saying that the meeting was about what Rufus wanted the shareholders to do for the company. What we should do for the company!? I thought it should be the other way around.
Posted by frank021474 on :
lol TM!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You know I wonder why they didn't invite your unbiased opinion to the meeting TexasMoney.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Okay, I'm sorry Tex. I'll try again, so here it go's:
Hi everybody, Has anyone heard anything from the meeting that took place today. I'm sure its all great and we all have nothing to worry about, but I just cant sleep until I hear something. Let me guess our new book value is $500 per share or did Warren Buffet agree to merge with CSHD and our shares are now worth $1000 per share.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Does anybody know what happened with the meeting today? I thought it was over really quick, but then I heard some posters saying that it was still going on.
I was reading a little bit of the posts from the meeting but then I stopped when I seen one of the posts saying that the meeting was about what Rufus wanted the shareholders to do for the company. What we should do for the company!? I thought it should be the other way around.
Rufus wants sheep in his group not bulls . He wants to lead and everyone else to blindly follow him . I doubt he's interested in anyone with real questions and who's not afraid to question his authority . The problem is , after the 4th of Dec. or maybe sooner , he will no longer be a part of CSHD for failure to address the Default Judgement requested by the SEC. If this happens , CSHD will be a nothing company with no one at the wheel to steer it .
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I offered but my koolaid smile wasn't big enough. There's always next time though - happy good thoughts!
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: You know I wonder why they didn't invite your unbiased opinion to the meeting TexasMoney.
Posted by 3403 on :
Hi Tex, glad your here.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
Dogmando will let everyone know some things as he sees fit. Dogmando is the authorized voice. That's what I heard.
Posted by 3403 on :
I heard dogmando on SPR. Somehow don't feel he is capable of getting the answers.
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 jack nicholson
Posted by 3403 on :
The CEO picking the shareholders rep. is like giving the key to a liqueur store to a drunk.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Do you know how stupid and ignorant that sounds -- dogmando will let everyone knoe some things as he see fits -- what are you, a stepford wife?
Posted by 3403 on :
Hope I didn't offend any CEO's or drunks here.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: 3403 jack nicholson
don't tell anyone Gull. shhhhhhhh
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Hope I didn't offend any CEO's or drunks here.
I'm highly offended ....... Posted by Doniboy on :
Anyone wanna give me a rundown? Who's meeting with whom? Why is Dogmando speaking for us?
Posted by fhalyesss on :
What do the following have in common????
Texas Money, Morty, Etouqe123,3403 and The Source.
Answer:
They all registered here in a 3 week spell in October!
Longs Beware it may be more than by chance! Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
If Rufus can talk this long without answering some important questions he would be unstopable in politics.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: What do the following have in common????
Texas Money, Morty, Etouqe123,3403 and The Source.
Answer:
They all registered here in a 3 week spell in October!
Longs Beware it may be more than by chance! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came in when I bought, which means I bought to high....
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: What do the following have in common????
Texas Money, Morty, Etouqe123,3403 and The Source.
Answer:
They all registered here in a 3 week spell in October!
Longs Beware it may be more than by chance!
You are a swift one aren't you .......... Posted by etouqe123 on :
fhalyesss,
Just because I refuse the view the current situation with blinders on doesnt make me a basher or whatever you're implying. I stated in an earlier post that I have been in this stock since FHAL and I'm still waiting for this company to start fulfilling promises they made months ago, so excuse me if my views of management are less than stellar.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
power and accountability go hand-in-hand...
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I’m innocent of the purported association. And, my MASSIVE KOOL-AID SMILE should be proof enough.
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: What do the following have in common????
Texas Money, Morty, Etouqe123,3403 and The Source.
Answer:
They all registered here in a 3 week spell in October!
Longs Beware it may be more than by chance!
Posted by 3403 on :
Real power isn't something someone gives you, real power is SOMETHING YOU TAKE.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
What company ??? As of right now its Rufus and some guy thats never been seen or heard from . Last time I checked , it took more than two people to run a company .
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
can we get the price above 25cent and get off the greys?
just kidding- adding some humor since I am sure the room is full of folks tired of the back-channel info passing and non PR'd information going out to the masses.
We have been hearing for months about power and connections lined up but some of us sit here with 10's of thousands of shares valued at ~.20 cent.
I do hope some sort of summary is sent out ASAP and it contains some data other than "soon". Not just a post on HSM or Allstocks either- we need official company backing on the summary.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
What company ??? As of right now its Rufus and some guy thats never been seen or heard from . Last time I checked , it took more than two people to run a company .
I haven't seen anything to run, have you?
Posted by 3403 on :
I can't believe Rufus is going to make us sit up all night to hear some answers to questions we should of had weeks ago.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
What company ??? As of right now its Rufus and some guy thats never been seen or heard from . Last time I checked , it took more than two people to run a company .
I haven't seen anything to run, have you?
No not really ........ I run a business with about 1/2 million in sales a year . It requires several people to run this and thats a fraction of a fraction that CSHD claims to have .
Posted by Doniboy on :
Am I on everyone's ignore list or something?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider: James G aka dogmando is appointed chairman to the Shareholder Committee by Rufus Paul Harris.
The meeting with Mr. Harris today with me. dogmando: THIS IS ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE SHAREHOLDER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IN THE COMPANY dogmando: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AS TO HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE
What company ??? As of right now its Rufus and some guy thats never been seen or heard from . Last time I checked , it took more than two people to run a company .
I haven't seen anything to run, have you?
No not really ........ I run a business with about 1/2 million in sales a year . It requires several people to run this and thats a fraction of a fraction that CSHD claims to have .
There is a difference between running a business with that type of annual revenue on services or product- cshd business is financial backing for jv's
Like comparing apples to oranges correct?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Am I on everyone's ignore list or something?
howdy Doni!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
well, this almost seems like a secret club and i feel like i am supposed to be the peasant, hmmmm, i am a share holder ay the mercy of 10 committee members......... another bad move for rufus....
Posted by Gullible on :
Howdy Doni *shake*
Posted by TexasMoney on :
To be more precise, its actually eight committee members, one dead Egyptian, and one religious zealot.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: well, this almost seems like a secret club and i feel like i am supposed to be the peasant, hmmmm, i am a share holder ay the mercy of 10 committee members......... another bad move for rufus....
Posted by Gullible on :
And a partridge in a pear tree
Posted by 3403 on :
Frank, you would have a bevy of accountants, attorneys, and periphials to handle billions in bonds.
Posted by thesource on :
Maybe so Frank but can you really believe that Rufus can even pull this off ? I mean look at the mans background just with this company ......... he's never been on time for a single filing , he's been to court with no attorney and now he's fixing to get banned as a CEO from the SEC if he cannot file a good rebuttal on the Default Judgement by Dec 4 . How in the world can this man even tie his own shoes much less be responsible for billions in assets ???
Posted by driver4t4 on :
hehehe, hope we can listen to this secret "meeting" they are having. try to have a good laugh and see if anyone in the meeting wants to purchase my shares..
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: hehehe, hope we can listen to this secret "meeting" they are having. try to have a good laugh and see if anyone in the meeting wants to purchase my shares..
They can buy yours right after they buy mine from me .
Posted by luvforever on :
Whats everyone talking about? lol it's not a private meeting, it's a normal meeting for cshd!~LOL j/k Posted by 3403 on :
Anyone know what time this conference called finally began?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
it was like 6 est
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Maybe so Frank but can you really believe that Rufus can even pull this off ? I mean look at the mans background just with this company ......... he's never been on time for a single filing , he's been to court with no attorney and now he's fixing to get banned as a CEO from the SEC if he cannot file a good rebuttal on the Default Judgement by Dec 4 . How in the world can this man even tie his own shoes much less be responsible for billions in assets ???
The statements of "we are gonna be rich" or "We are very confident" fall into the same bucket as the folks that bash this stocks.
Until we have public PR's and 10ka etc... its ALL speculation.
Does that mean I am selling? Heck no- just means I am not high-fiving my fellow friend shareholders thinking of riches.
As I have been doing for the past months...I wait
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: it was like 6 est
thks
Posted by Jenna on :
I have to say as far as true bashers go:
TexasMoney: definately not a basher just a frustrated shareholder with a sense of humor...
Etouque123: don't know enough but pretty sure just frustrated, has a sense of humor
theSource: A VERY BITTER shareholder - kinda like one of the old guys in the Balcony on the muppets- SO GRUMPY YOU SORTA LIKE HIM...(once in a while to angry though Source - who loves ya though?)
3403: a frustrated shareholder - feels like we're not quite sure where we stand (like many feel) so it frustrates him... sometimes it brings out the "whinyness" in him....other times it brings out the talented poet in him- basically a shareholder with faded hope...all together a "means well" kinda guy though....
Morty: a bad nasty Basher!!! Yeah, I said it he is without a doubt- & I give people the benefit of the doubt but this guy when he shows up - he shows up with an agenda....
This is only my opinion to Fhalyesss' previous post...ONLY MY OPINION....
Posted by Doniboy on :
Anyone wanna give me a high Five?
Posted by thesource on :
Read the last post ........ not sure about the accuracy of it but if so Rufus might be right about higher people watching it .
Posted by luvforever on :
high five Donni smack! ~LOL Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Revelare Pecunia:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 10of13. I have enjoyed your posts, and you have given me great advice. What does kool-aide drinkers mean exactly?
1. kool aid drinker
Someone who beleives what they are told without thinking for themselves. From the followers of Jim Jones in Guyana who committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid drinkers are buying this stock because their broker recommended it.
dang. here i been thinking it came from the Tom Wolfe Book... holy moly...
I suppose you're right, 1978 is when the mass suicide happened, and 1968 is the publish date on the Tom Wolfe book...
Urban Dictionary and I stand corrected...i will go quietly
lolf'n l...
no, no, no... Tom Wolfe's "Kool Aid" refers to Ken Kesey and "The Merry Pranksters," a completely different mindset...Kool-Aid as used in trading lingo refers back to the Jim Jones debacle...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Doni...there isn't much going on...the call is still taking place and the feel that I am getting is that this call is simply setting up the "laws" of the committee and what part they will take in the Company. Portman will probably post something when it's over...I would also guess that Dogman(James) will send out an email about it in the am...I wouldn't look for much on the message boards... Doubt any "answers" will be given tonight...maybe a PR to come... peeps shouldn't expect too much tonight...go spend some time with your sife and beautiful baby...check your email in the AM... later...
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Am I on everyone's ignore list or something?
Posted by luvforever on :
Well, Jenna seems to have us all pegged! ~LOL you go girl!! high five smack! Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I have to say as far as true bashers go:
TexasMoney: definately not a basher just a frustrated shareholder with a sense of humor...
Etouque123: don't know enough but pretty sure just frustrated, has a sense of humor
theSource: A VERY BITTER shareholder - kinda like one of the old guys in the Balcony on the muppets- SO GRUMPY YOU SORTA LIKE HIM...(once in a while to angry though Source - who loves ya though?)
3403: a frustrated shareholder - feels like we're not quite sure where we stand (like many feel) so it frustrates him... sometimes it brings out the "whinyness" in him....other times it brings out the talented poet in him- basically a shareholder with faded hope...all together a "means well" kinda guy though....
Morty: a bad nasty Basher!!! Yeah, I said it he is without a doubt- & I give people the benefit of the doubt but this guy when he shows up - he shows up with an agenda....
This are only my opinion to Fhalyesss' previous post...ONLY MY OPINION....
When TheSource and TM finally meet OMG That's so freaking funny (and perceptive) Jenna!
Posted by Jenna on :
Source - that link doesn't work for me- Can you cut & paste the post to this Board?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: http://www.m arketmillionaires.com/hot-investment-tips-stock-picks/5595-cshd-conversion-solut ions-holdings-209.html#post79909
Take the space out between m and a
Read the last post ........ not sure about the accuracy of it but if so Rufus might be right about higher people watching it .
OUCH, hope it's not true...........
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Okay, I'm sorry Tex. I'll try again, so here it go's:
Hi everybody, Has anyone heard anything from the meeting that took place today. I'm sure its all great and we all have nothing to worry about, but I just cant sleep until I hear something. Let me guess our new book value is $500 per share or did Warren Buffet agree to merge with CSHD and our shares are now worth $1000 per share.
pretty funny...
Posted by Jenna on :
Luv- my take on you:
Never in a bad mood- at least not on the board anyway...always sees the cup half full - YOU GO GIRL!!!
Rush- do you think that's accurate? I love the picture? but if one of those is TexasMoney - he's the one that was the more PLEASANT one- love ya TexasMoney!!!
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Luv- my take on you:
Never in a bad mood- at least not on the board anyway...always sees the cup half full - YOU GO GIRL!!!
Rush- do you think that's accurate? I love the picture? but if one of those is TexasMoney - he's the one that was the more PLEASANT one- love ya TexasMoney!!!
You're right, I meant to say Kevin Bailey.
Sorry TM!
Posted by luvforever on :
Aww Thanks Jenna... You seem to be the fixer upper here helping everyone and seems to go with your job as a nurse. Different folks to keepthe world goingaround and around~LOL oh wait isn't that what we are doing here? Chasing our tails making sure it's not the tigers!!!! LOL Posted by Jenna on :
Rush-Glad you said that about TexasMoney- He does not deserve to be in the balcony at the Muppet Show!!! TexasMoney is quite alright.....as for Kevin...he's in the balcony for sure.....yep that's them!!!!
Posted by Gullible on :
Ladies and Gentlemen Elvis had left the building!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by RushDaBus:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I have to say as far as true bashers go:
TexasMoney: definately not a basher just a frustrated shareholder with a sense of humor...
Etouque123: don't know enough but pretty sure just frustrated, has a sense of humor
theSource: A VERY BITTER shareholder - kinda like one of the old guys in the Balcony on the muppets- SO GRUMPY YOU SORTA LIKE HIM...(once in a while to angry though Source - who loves ya though?)
3403: a frustrated shareholder - feels like we're not quite sure where we stand (like many feel) so it frustrates him... sometimes it brings out the "whinyness" in him....other times it brings out the talented poet in him- basically a shareholder with faded hope...all together a "means well" kinda guy though....
Morty: a bad nasty Basher!!! Yeah, I said it he is without a doubt- & I give people the benefit of the doubt but this guy when he shows up - he shows up with an agenda....
This are only my opinion to Fhalyesss' previous post...ONLY MY OPINION....
When TheSource and TM finally meet OMG That's so freaking funny (and perceptive) Jenna!
When Thesource meets Dufus
When Thesource meets RushdaBus
When Thesource meets Jenna Posted by luvforever on :
LOL Jenna !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by glassman on :
i'm sure Jenna's ankle is much more attractive than that
Posted by portman on :
I personally see the wisdom of a single source to review the information and assuring it is disseminated correctly, accurately and publicly.
Driver and source...I bet if you pull your certs you will find easy buyers.
Posted by Gullible on :
GNTA, May Tomorrow Be Golden
Posted by Jenna on :
Good Night, Gullible....
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I personally see the wisdom of a single source to review the information and assuring it is disseminated correctly, accurately and publicly.
Driver and source...I bet if you pull your certs you will find easy buyers.
I've already offered them to you big dog . With all your deep DD and in the know boat , these should be a guaranteed money maker . Hit me up with a PM if you want them . I even take pay pal !!!
Posted by Doniboy on :
Thanks forthe update 10 Posted by Gullible on :
Champagne & ?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
[/QUOTE]When Thesource meets Dufus
When Thesource meets RushdaBus
When Thesource meets Jenna [/QB][/QUOTE]
LOL! Dude, you've got a lot of pent up anger! WOOF!
Posted by Gullible on :
Caviar!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Champagne & ?
Champagne Wishes & Cavair Dreams........ Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I personally see the wisdom of a single source to review the information and assuring it is disseminated correctly, accurately and publicly.
Driver and source...I bet if you pull your certs you will find easy buyers.
what portman, you saying this is okay, a private meeting ?? it's illegal, my money is invested in this and rufus is being reckless.. is that okay...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i'm sure Jenna's ankle is much more attractive than that
Thanks Glass, I'm sure yours is too.... Posted by Spooky on :
Don't leave me out Jenna... I'm curious what section I sit in too Posted by driver4t4 on :
Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Posted by luvforever on :
Spooky... ummm the scarey section! ~LOL Posted by luvforever on :
oh I forgot spell check, again! dang it! ~LOL Posted by driver4t4 on :
furthermore, i am not selling my shares, not yet, but this taking on the sec has got to stop..
when you people say "sell your shares if your not happy" , now people are doing exactly that,selling thier shares and we had taken a major beating last week... jeeeeez.
Posted by Jenna on :
Spooky- you are not in the Balcony.....you have one of the regular seats....Spooky is just a normal shareholder - gets his questions through and read by Simon on SPR....Spooky is a believer that isn't afraid to ask pertanent questions but in a classy way that not only benefits the regular posters of this board but also benefits the shy "lurkers"....
How'd I do?
***the Balcony is for "cranky" people
Posted by lostone on :
so uh.. what happened to the meeting today?
Posted by 3403 on :
slurpy slurpy
Posted by Spooky on :
Aww shucks ma'am
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Exactly ..... the bonds might very well belong to CSHD but when Dufus is gone , who's going to take his place ? MA has had his chance and left . Was it because Dufus was better qualified or did he want the hell out of there for some other reason ? Either way , MA said with his own mouth that he was not the right person to run the company . Now with this being said , what kind of fool is Dufus to screw around and wait until the SEC bans him if this is real . I think that he really believes the share holders can save his A$$ if they complain enough to their local law makers and somehow they will over turn the Judge's decision .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by lostone: so uh.. what happened to the meeting today?
We haven't heard anything yet, only 10 people allowed to be there, we are still waiting to hear what may have been discussed..
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Exactly ..... the bonds might very well belong to CSHD but when Dufus is gone , who's going to take his place ? MA has had his chance and left . Was it because Dufus was better qualified or did he want the hell out of there for some other reason ? Either way , MA said with his own mouth that he was not the right person to run the company . Now with this being said , what kind of fool is Dufus to screw around and wait until the ban him if this is real . I think that he really believes the share holders can save his A$$ if they complain enough to their local law makers and somehow they will over turn the Judge's decision .
the point is that this company could be exactly what we all believe, (GOLDEN) the assets are there, but marching on the whitehouse lawn is just stupid, I am an investor and want to watch this company succeed, but everyone is saying sell and that is why we had the blood bath last week, they dont realize they are saying sell and then the price tanks...ignorance...
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Exactly ..... the bonds might very well belong to CSHD but when Dufus is gone , who's going to take his place ? MA has had his chance and left . Was it because Dufus was better qualified or did he want the hell out of there for some other reason ? Either way , MA said with his own mouth that he was not the right person to run the company . Now with this being said , what kind of fool is Dufus to screw around and wait until the ban him if this is real . I think that he really believes the share holders can save his A$$ if they complain enough to their local law makers and somehow they will over turn the Judge's decision .
If you simply read and understood you would have less anxiety/frustration over the issue, the following taken directly from the last 8k: "Mr. Alexander’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him" he understands Rufus is more knowledgeable about monetizing bonds...period
Posted by Jenna on :
driver, I do believe a lot of people would agree....this company does have what it takes but needs to be ran properly....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: driver, I do believe a lot of people would agree....this company does have what it takes but needs to be ran properly....
I just have my fingers crossed, there is a good thing here, it's frustrating, this meeting like this, it's not legal and i hope poses no threat to our position...
Posted by TexasMoney on :
What sent me into the abyss was hearing Rufus say all the “ducks are lined up” on Tuesday and then two days later the SEC files a motion for default judgment. I guess he meant the SEC had all their ducks lined up.
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Exactly ..... the bonds might very well belong to CSHD but when Dufus is gone , who's going to take his place ? MA has had his chance and left . Was it because Dufus was better qualified or did he want the hell out of there for some other reason ? Either way , MA said with his own mouth that he was not the right person to run the company . Now with this being said , what kind of fool is Dufus to screw around and wait until the SEC bans him if this is real . I think that he really believes the share holders can save his A$$ if they complain enough to their local law makers and somehow they will over turn the Judge's decision .
Posted by 3403 on :
I am sleepy now as you might guess said my piece got alot off my chest
Sweet dreams to all to Jenna too I know she means well but to much todo
Tomorrow may bring good news for all I respect those of us who keep standing tall
I see incompetence you see a good guy we look in the same direction I see storms you see sky
Hope I'm wrong cause I like being rich if this stock doesn't make it my wife will *****
Is there any of you that are worried as I you see storms not just blue sky
Ru may be a cowboy horse hat and all but as far as I'm concerned he ain't standing tall
He's made fools of his followers who believed his tall tales but when it comes to producing he has excuses and wales
The shorts coming for us the SEC is to just stick by my side even tho I have no clue
Okay I will follow won't sell my stock either even tho my head say different and I think your a cheater
At 30 cents it ain't worth it otherwise I would if it hits two dollars I'll sell and should
Posted by luvforever on :
ok well enough on ducks i'm gonna go count some sheepies! ~LOL I'll peek in later or morning to see if there's any excitement.... ummm I mean with the stock not Jennas ankle!~LMAO good night all Posted by thesource on :
mnvestor - I agree with you but why would Dufus risk losing it all by playing around with the SEC . Thats stupid plain and simple . Remember , Dufus is the one that wanted it to go to court so all could be seen in the public eye. He talked it up like it was his doing and he's going to tear them a new one . After all this talk , he shows up without an attorney and ends up signing the same damn paper he refused to sign before . Now he's screwed around along with MA and this company could soon find itself without a CEO and the one person that might be able to pull this off .
For the record , personally , I don't think Dufus can or will pull this off if there is infact real bonds owned by CSHD . I think this has been one big a$$ scam and I just happened to stumble into it .
Posted by portman on :
glass... mailbox is full!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: mnvestor - I agree with you but why would Dufus risk losing it all by playing around with the SEC . Thats stupid plain and simple . Remember , Dufus is the one that wanted it to go to court so all could be seen in the public eye. He talked it up like it was his doing and he's going to tear them a new one . After all this talk , he shows up without an attorney and ends up signing the same damn paper he refused to sign before . Now he's screwed around along with MA and this compant could soon find itself without a CEO and the one person that might be able to pull this off .
For the record , personally , I don't think Dufus can or will pull this off if there is infact real bonds owned by CSHD . I think this has been one big a$$ scam and I just happened to stumble into it .
Did you mention your roommate was a shareholder also? Or was that someone else chronically depressed about this stock?
Posted by Jenna on :
-Source I never knew you had a foot fetish... Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: Look the company has the assets, I truly believe that according to my own due diligence, and the out of pocket expense for research I have done, this every bond is real, but, being reckless can shut this company down and everyone loses, why cant rufus get on with business and build shareholder value, instead of trying to battle the SEC, trust me they will win... maybe they can settle, there is great value to this company, but it can be dissolved...
Exactly ..... the bonds might very well belong to CSHD but when Dufus is gone , who's going to take his place ? MA has had his chance and left . Was it because Dufus was better qualified or did he want the hell out of there for some other reason ? Either way , MA said with his own mouth that he was not the right person to run the company . Now with this being said , what kind of fool is Dufus to screw around and wait until the ban him if this is real . I think that he really believes the share holders can save his A$$ if they complain enough to their local law makers and somehow they will over turn the Judge's decision .
If you simply read and understood you would have less anxiety/frustration over the issue, the following taken directly from the last 8k: "Mr. Alexander’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him" he understands Rufus is more knowledgeable about monetizing bonds...period
"monetizing bonds it (claims) it has" print the whold thing
Posted by frank021474 on :
night jenna!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: mnvestor - I agree with you but why would Dufus risk losing it all by playing around with the SEC . Thats stupid plain and simple . Remember , Dufus is the one that wanted it to go to court so all could be seen in the public eye. He talked it up like it was his doing and he's going to tear them a new one . After all this talk , he shows up without an attorney and ends up signing the same damn paper he refused to sign before . Now he's screwed around along with MA and this compant could soon find itself without a CEO and the one person that might be able to pull this off .
For the record , personally , I don't think Dufus can or will pull this off if there is infact real bonds owned by CSHD . I think this has been one big a$$ scam and I just happened to stumble into it .
Did you mention your roommate was a shareholder also? Or was that someone else chronically depressed about this stock?
Unless you know of someone else thats living in my house , my wife and kids are the only ones living with me . I wouldn't exactly call them room mates and none of them have stock in CSHD as far as I know .
Posted by frank021474 on :
lol- it was someone else in here thesource. Maybe it was jmoe
Posted by driver4t4 on :
3403, it used to say monitizing the bonds it claims to have, but the pr has been updated by MA to say the bonds they brought into the company, they are real.
Posted by 3403 on :
Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets (claimed) as assets by the Company
did i read it wrong? i am tired
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with the particular bond assets (claimed) as assets by the Company
did i read it wrong? i am tired
Compare the PR to the 8K- the 8K does not say claimed.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
You are right , the bonds are real but so far CSHD has not been able to convince the SEC or the Judge in this case that they do infact own them . As of right now , those are the two most important issues needing to be addressed . All of these secret meetings , speaking in riddles , cobras eating shorty and people drinking kool aid will not get this company out of the tail spin it has put itself into . I'm sorry but real companies are not run like this .
To me , the two biggest signs at this point that we are screwed is (1)Sabra and Co. were either shown the door or jumped off the ship when given the chance and (2)Failure to address the court and filings against CSHD with an attorney (even a crappy one at this point would do).
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
That means get an established financial person and put him/her in the CEO position.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: heres the change... Mike Alexander says that, “I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company’s assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the Company’s business plan. I, and all of the shareholders, with the group in Georgia the best of luck in the development of the Company and the shareholders’ value. Mr. Harris has agreed to assume his previous management and board position and will be making announcements in the near future. He can be reached at (678) 758-3010.’
part 1) On November 14, 2006, Mr. Michael Alexander as Sole Director of the Company determined after spending the last couple of weeks reviewing the financial records of the Company accumulated by the previous management group that it is in the best interest of the Company’s shareholders that the future of the Company will best be served by the previous management group located in Georgia as they have the financial background and relationships with issuers of the bond assets they brought to the Company. Mr. Alexander is under the opinion that they have the best opportunity to monetize the assets and if so monetized, implement the Company’s business plan. In conjunction with this decision, Mr. Alexander has reappointed Mr. Rufus Harris as the Sole Director and Chief Executive Officer of the Company.
bump
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
That means get an established financial person and put him/her in the CEO position.
bingo
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
That means get an established financial person and put him/her in the CEO position.
Yeah but so far no one has offered . I would think that a billion dollar Co. with huge connections would have people lining up for the chance to be a part of this . Thats not been the case so far , has it ?
Posted by 3403 on :
I own a motorcycle, a boat, a car, a kayak and can show you proof at a moments notice. What's the prob man.............
Posted by frank021474 on :
wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
That means get an established financial person and put him/her in the CEO position.
Yeah but so far no one has offered . I would think that a billion dollar Co. with huge connections would have people lining up for the chance to be a part of this . Thats not been the case so far , has it ?
we are not sure of that, rufus say's there are company's lined up to merge with, that is what IMO i feel we need to do, merge into a company that is not being audited by the sec, a good clean company, rufus would save his shares and ours by doing that, he wants to retire anyway, lets not fight the sec or worry about shorty anymore and build this company's value.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
You are right , the bonds are real but so far CSHD has not been able to convince the SEC or the Judge in this case that they do infact own them . As of right now , those are the two most important issues needing to be addressed . All of these secret meetings , speaking in riddles , cobras eating shorty and people drinking kool aid will not get this company out of the tail spin it has put itself into . I'm sorry but real companies are not run like this .
To me , the two biggest signs at this point that we are screwed is (1)Sabra and Co. were either shown the door or jumped off the ship when given the chance and (2)Failure to address the court and filings against CSHD with an attorney (even a crappy one at this point would do).
On last thing before I go to bed - don't be so sure the judge doesn't know the owners and validity of the bonds....HE JUST MAY....the only thing we need to worry about is Rufus getting the company an attorney to fight the default & getting an MM to get us out of the sewer...I'm PRETTY SURE the judge can read & is not an idiot...also don't forget about the sealed evidence...
CSHD needs:
- a lawyer &
-an MM
& also
- to be lead by a CEO that can get 'er done
SEE we all agree - we just say things differently...
Night All - Night Source - Kiss those beautiful baby boys....
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: source the bonds are real, there is no doubt it in my mind about that, but the company needs to be run like a company, we can still be salvaged.
That means get an established financial person and put him/her in the CEO position.
Yeah but so far no one has offered . I would think that a billion dollar Co. with huge connections would have people lining up for the chance to be a part of this . Thats not been the case so far , has it ?
it's because people who have money invested are going on blindly. I lost about $8k on this (havent sold, but don't expect this company to recover), and the fact of the matter is this just isnt the company people thought it was.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
Posted by 3403 on :
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
that is the ONLY issue.........
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Fortunately for the penny world I think RPH has some serious things he is trying to prove (Manipuation and NSS). The downside of that for us is that we are inadvertently along for the ride.
I am not saying this is all 100% according to his master plan but I think with the NSS battle on the mind they are using a different strategy than anyone else just trying to clear the name and move on.
This week should be interesting- with the Court and 10Q!
Someone mentioned merger- Netbank works for me. Its in Georgia (contacts already??) and its already a big board stock.
of course that is pure speculation on my part- so take it as my 2 cents into the evening banter.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
that is the ONLY issue.........
They Have NOTHING...They are looking for something...anything.....It's best for Rufus to stay quiet ...get lawyers...& let them stop this crap.....THEY HAVE NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
Posted by portman on :
I am only saying this because I see some of you getting yourselves all riled up and a lot of wild speculation tonight.
Just go to bed and stop posting. Please....and this is not for my sake.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
Posted by thesource on :
If thats the case with other companies lined up to merge , why would Dufus drag this out and risk having the Co. dissolved by the courts and possible criminal/civil charges against himself ? I cannot imagine that a single clean company would want any part of this circus right now . I've yet to see Dufus even associated with any clean companies up to this point . His partner in crime Ben S. along with the other guy from BBAN have been surrounded by nothing but fraud and bull$hit Incs setup to appear like they are something big (I.E. Enhancement Holdings , Waatle , Stanley Trust) . The names sound good but what don't really mean a damn thing if you actually look at what they have done . Even Mike A ran FHAL into the ground and was accused of toxic funding !!! It was no mistake or random chance that FHAL and Dufus crossed paths . Birds of a feather flock together .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I think the company can still come out of this, but it will take all the things jenna posted, and rufus needs to stop with these private meetings, it's illegal, insider info, if we get a wrong report on the minutes, and they sell their shares monday morning, we are left selling at sub penny..LOL
Posted by Jenna on :
Your right Port- I'm out-----
Posted by 3403 on :
My stocks present value in my mind is based on its prorata share of the bonds owned. It's future value is based on what the monies created by those bonds do for the future value of the JV's. I don't care WHO is CEO as long as they are able to follow the so called game plan we were sold. Don't care about Rufus one bit. He's got his shares for his reward, he doesn't need our admiration, or concern.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
So has anyone actually *called" the Official Whomever with the State of Georgia and asked them, "What does it prove to have such-n-such documents posted there?" ie, does that prove "ownership" or does that prove the documents were filed?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: My stocks present value in my mind is based on its prorata share of the bonds owned. It's future value is based on what the monies created by those bonds do for the future value of the JV's. I don't care WHO is CEO as long as they are able to follow the so called game plan we were sold. Don't care about Rufus one bit. He's got his shares for his reward, he doesn't need our admiration, or concern.
If this company losses it CEO at this point in the game , whats left of the company ? Its like having a state of the art war ship with no captain or crew . Its really not worth a crap at that point is it ?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
on the bonds filed with the court it states that cshd has full ownership, the issue in my eyes are that the sec is watching cshd really close and right now having a meeting with 10 members as a publicly traded company is inside information, he would have been better off writing up a Q and A and putting it on the website or pr'ing it..
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
IMO. ownership is the only issue. If the company owns the bonds, the SEC action is mute. The company will proceed with their plan.
However, IMO, the sticking issue is that Rufus put out Pr's that claimed complete ownership, whereas anyone who has read the past 8k's would realized that CSHD owes half the money hypothacated plus half the investments of the other 50%. CSHD may indeed have the bonds and the ability to hypothacate them but can't claim the entire sum as assests. I think this is the actual hang up. read the global funding agreements. It's still sweet for both CSHD and whoever turns the bonds over but technically it's not as stated.
How will this play out? I don't know, my crystal ball and it's back up were both shattered.
GLTA Wally
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: My stocks present value in my mind is based on its prorata share of the bonds owned. It's future value is based on what the monies created by those bonds do for the future value of the JV's. I don't care WHO is CEO as long as they are able to follow the so called game plan we were sold. Don't care about Rufus one bit. He's got his shares for his reward, he doesn't need our admiration, or concern.
If this company losses it CEO at this point in the game , whats left of the company ? Its like having a state of the art war ship with no captain or crew . Its really not worth a crap at that point is it ?
often the sum of its parts are worth more then the whole... happens all the time
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Your right Port- I'm out-----
Jenna bails, lol...
seriously, Jennna, don't see how "ownership" is "not an issue."
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
So has anyone actually *called" the Official Whomever with the State of Georgia and asked them, "What does it prove to have such-n-such documents posted there?" ie, does that prove "ownership" or does that prove the documents were filed?
It wouldn't even matter if you called . All they did was file paper work that Dufus requested filed with them . It doesn't prove a damn thing to them or anyone else for that matter . Infact , the paper work was suppose to be filed in Delaware not Georgia anyways .
I could go down to the court house here in San Antonio and file anything I want . It doesn't make it true .
Posted by 3403 on :
If the bonds are real, and Rufus was the spark that keeps the fire burning I'd say save him. His spark in my estimation is not even flickering.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: If the bonds are real, and Rufus was the spark that keeps the fire burning I'd say save him. His spark in my estimation is not even flickering.
if ownership of the bonds are real (error)
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
So has anyone actually *called" the Official Whomever with the State of Georgia and asked them, "What does it prove to have such-n-such documents posted there?" ie, does that prove "ownership" or does that prove the documents were filed?
IMO, it doesn't mean squat. Only that they are public record. I'm pretty sure that the State of Georgia doesn't verify everything that is recorded. If they did, we would not be in this predicament.
GLTA Wally
Posted by driver4t4 on :
none the less, we are trading at .22 cents a share....uhmmmm something is not right..
Posted by 3403 on :
Can not believe that not one of our conference call listening shareholders have posted an outcome. They must really think their special.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
So has anyone actually *called" the Official Whomever with the State of Georgia and asked them, "What does it prove to have such-n-such documents posted there?" ie, does that prove "ownership" or does that prove the documents were filed?
It wouldn't even matter if you called . All they did was file paper work that Dufus requested filed with them . It doesn't prove a damn thing to them or anyone else for that matter . Infact , the paper work was suppose to be filed in Delaware not Georgia anyways .
I could go down to the court house here in San Antonio and file anything I want . It doesn't make it true .
Well the only way its fake is if Rufus made up the letter himself .
Posted by 3403 on :
You can record anything, I mean anything. A scrap pad paper can be recorded. Recorded paper does not prove it is legit.
Posted by portman on :
Today, 12:19 AM #7237 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 202 I am working on the update. When it is ready I will direct you as to where it will be located. I WILL HAVE IT OUT TONIGHT
Posted by frank021474 on :
Couple posts from Dogman:
Originally Posted by dogman I will first start off and tell you that if you meant this is a good way then disregard what I am about to say and except my apology.
If you have a problem with the way that I am running the committee then maybe you should have stepped up and started the committee yourself. I have work more hours of my personal time on this than most work in a week. It has come to some expense to my family time which i hold very dear since i have small children. As for you second point it has nothing to do with my "friends". I have never knew any of these people prior to June of this year. The word you used "friend" should be replaced with trusted, inteligent people. As a chairman, president or any other leader can tell you, you can never make everyone happy all the time. This is not about me or my "friends" having a personal agenda it is about the shareholders of CSHD.
James G Chairman of the shareholder committee
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Originally Posted by dogman I am working on the update. When it is ready I will direct you as to where it will be located. I WILL HAVE IT OUT TONIGHT
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You can record anything, I mean anything. A scrap pad paper can be recorded. Recorded paper does not prove it is legit.
But it is illegal to record that which is known to be false.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Today, 12:19 AM #7237 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 202 I am working on the update. When it is ready I will direct you as to where it will be located. I WILL HAVE IT OUT TONIGHT
cool, you guys are suppose to get a pretty good meteor shower on the east coast tonight..
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: none the less, we are trading at .22 cents a share....uhmmmm something is not right..
And thats what really matters to us share holders !!!
The perfect analogy was a pendulum on a clock swinging . If we don't get some good news soon , this stock will find a trading level and basically dry up . I have a feeling it will be in the .08-.12 PPS area and thats just not acceptble from this company or Dufus . I will continue to wait just incase by some small chance Dufus does find the smoking gun and we are off to the races . At this point though , I think I'd have a better chance with winning the lottery .
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: none the less, we are trading at .22 cents a share....uhmmmm something is not right..
And thats what really matters to us share holders !!!
The perfect analogy was a pendulum on a clock swinging . If we don't get some good news soon , this stock will find a trading level and basically dry up . I have a felling it will be in the .08-.12 PPS area and thats just not acceptble from this company or Dufus . I will continue to wait just incase by some small chance Dufus does find the smoking gun and we are off to the races . At this point though , I think I'd have a better chance with winning the lottery .
yup i think everyone isn't seeing that regardless of how real this is or may be, the only thing that matters to us shareholders is PPS and we keep dropping each week and have already lost most of our investment.
Posted by portman on :
I guess I should not have told anyone to go t sleep...just to stop the wild speculative posting...lol
Man some of you want to beat yourselves over the head. I know you want to vent...but man...oh well, to each his own.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You can record anything, I mean anything. A scrap pad paper can be recorded. Recorded paper does not prove it is legit.
But it is illegal to record that which is known to be false.
only if you're caught
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You can record anything, I mean anything. A scrap pad paper can be recorded. Recorded paper does not prove it is legit.
But it is illegal to record that which is known to be false.
And all the other things Dufus has done so far are legal ? According to the SEC , they are not .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
let's just hope there is a quick swift plan to pull us out of this, cant wait to read the minutes on this private meeting, but if the plan is to go to washington and camp out on the whitehouse lawn, i am not going, i support this company, but we need to see his "smoking gun"..
Posted by thesource on :
Well I'm going to bed ........ I'll see what ol' dog has to say in the morning I guess . I'm sure it will be vague and leave plenty of questions unanswered like the usual info from Dufus.
Whats got me is how Dufus is so quick to name drop about others associated with CSHD but has yet done so with his attorney's name ....... kind of weird huh ?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
IMO. ownership is the only issue. If the company owns the bonds, the SEC action is mute. The company will proceed with their plan.
However, IMO, the sticking issue is that Rufus put out Pr's that claimed complete ownership, whereas anyone who has read the past 8k's would realized that CSHD owes half the money hypothacated plus half the investments of the other 50%. CSHD may indeed have the bonds and the ability to hypothacate them but can't claim the entire sum as assests. I think this is the actual hang up. read the global funding agreements. It's still sweet for both CSHD and whoever turns the bonds over but technically it's not as stated.
How will this play out? I don't know, my crystal ball and it's back up were both shattered.
GLTA Wally
Wally,
hold on...
responding to another, preceding post, as excerpted:
"on the bonds filed with the court . . . ."
what does *that* refer to? Which bonds were filed with what court?
*** Wally, I think we may be in the same chapter, if not on the same page...
as you say, the "only issue." For sure, it's no "been there, done that," imo.
I also have other logical problems:
1) money/dough/income/geedus/profit/cash flow
a) If RPH has profited by the selling of his/company shares into pps rises (ie: "it's a scam), then he should have plenty of dough, yes?
b) If RPH has made the salary as filed, he should have plenty that way, yes?
c) If the company drew the interest claimed...
etc... see my point?
2) Don't officers/BOD members have "fiduciary duties" ? If so...
a) why the attorney delay?
b) why not "prove up" on the bonds?
c) after all, the initial PRs were *not* about taking on the SEC, proving NSS, etc... the biz model was logs, then 368-provision & reset, then bonds... in other words, even taking him at his best, weren't shareholders kinda drug along for the ride?
I may not have this well articulated, but trust you catch my overall message.
Posted by Spooky on :
Update on the purpose of the meeting from a post on HSM by Dogman
quote:This meeting was about what he wants the shareholders committee to do. You will understand exactly what I am talking about. Just wanted to let everyone know I am going to update. I totally understand everyone wanting to be apart of the conference call but if 1000 people showed up it would have been impossible to get anything accomplished. It wasnt a questions and answer meeting it was mainly Rufus explaining the very important role that the Committee will play in the very near future.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
let me get this straight, james and rufus are going to shoot the sh*t, talk about our company and thats it.... oh okay, all is good, this is golden.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: let me get this straight, james and rufus are going to shoot the sh*t, talk about our company and thats it.... oh okay, all is good, this is golden.
wrong paste sorry.......
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: wow 3403- I must have missed who called you out for what.
just saying if you own something as we all do proving it is easy. Why can't Rufus...
Not really the issue anymore.....been there....
gosh, I must have missed a *HUGE* step...
why isn't the ownership an issue?
A guy on HSM posted some of the documents from the georgia court website the other night thats been there all along, and then had to delete it, but if you check out those documents you will see it real. One letter for the $500 million dollar bond from Venezuela was sent by the central bank stating that they are giving Rufus a $500 million bond and explicity said that CSHD has "full ownership". I believe the bonds to be real, I blame Rufus for calling people out and bringing this to the ground
So has anyone actually *called" the Official Whomever with the State of Georgia and asked them, "What does it prove to have such-n-such documents posted there?" ie, does that prove "ownership" or does that prove the documents were filed?
It wouldn't even matter if you called . All they did was file paper work that Dufus requested filed with them . It doesn't prove a damn thing to them or anyone else for that matter . Infact , the paper work was suppose to be filed in Delaware not Georgia anyways .
I could go down to the court house here in San Antonio and file anything I want . It doesn't make it true .
lol...
you're not following my question...
Nothing against you, but I don't care about *your* opinion, per se...as far as this question goes. (As a board member? I love you...smooch, smooch, lol)
What I'm saying is, call/write/contact the Georgia officials and get the "official take" on what it means to have something filed.
make sense?
in other words, document it...
the more we remove "opinion," the better...
Posted by portman on :
Tex said -
quote:Nothing against you, but I don't care about *your* opinion, per se...as far as this question goes. (As a board member? I love you...smooch, smooch, lol)
OK, frenchy...time to calm down....lol Posted by driver4t4 on :
hahaha lol tex, thats funny, you are correct, I will call first thing on monday, I paid for the site to see the bonds, they read like cshd has full ownership, but yes I have too much invested to let that big of a detail go w/o checking.
Posted by T e x on :
wit? brevity?
Posted by wallymac on :
Wally, I think we may be in the same chapter, if not on the same page...
as you say, the "only issue." For sure, it's no "been there, done that," imo.
I also have other logical problems:
1) money/dough/income/geedus/profit/cash flow
a) If RPH has profited by the selling of his/company shares into pps rises (ie: "it's a scam), then he should have plenty of dough, yes?
b) If RPH has made the salary as filed, he should have plenty that way, yes?
c) If the company drew the interest claimed...
etc... see my point?
2) Don't officers/BOD members have "fiduciary duties" ? If so...
a) why the attorney delay?
b) why not "prove up" on the bonds?
c) after all, the initial PRs were *not* about taking on the SEC, proving NSS, etc... the biz model was logs, then 368-provision & reset, then bonds... in other words, even taking him at his best, weren't shareholders kinda drug along for the ride?
I may not have this well articulated, but trust you catch my overall message.
Above posted by TEX, trying to conserve som space here.
Yes we are on the same page. Where I think the difficulty comes is not so much in proving that the bonds are real as in the fact that CSHD in actuality only owns 50% of them upon hypthocation.
And yes, I signed on because of the bonds and not to fight the SEC or naked Shorters
Wally
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: hahaha lol tex, thats funny, you are correct, I will call first thing on monday, I paid for the site to see the bonds, they read like cshd has full ownership, but yes I have too much invested to let that big of a detail go w/o checking.
ooops...sorry, driver--preceding was for Portie...
yes, absolutely, find out what you're paying for...
Posted by portman on :
Naaa I just thought you were funny Tex...so I had to raz you a bit...lol
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Naaa I just thought you were funny Tex...so I had to raz you a bit...lol
reminds me...
Boston schoolmarm/professor flies into Texas for some convention, English or erudition or dictionary editing...sumpin like that--I forget.
Anyway, she's here in Fort Worth and from her hotel she hooks up with a young taxi driver, who winds up hauling her prim n proper azz around all evening. "I can take you here, I can take there," he says, "great museums, local history, restuarants" etc, etc.
Finally, at the end of the evening, near midnight, she's determined to exit the taxi and go up to her room. No more fun.
But as she leaves, she asks, "You know, one thing I didn't ask about, should I ever return, suppose I had wanted scrod...? "
"Ma'am" he says, "I'm not really a profesional taxi driver...I'm an English undergrad at TCU, headed for the Baptist Seminary...so I really don't know about those kind of places...
"BUT, gaw-lee...you really got command of the pluperfect subjunctive!"
Posted by portman on :
https://www. cshdshareholdercommittee.com/ShareholderUpdate.php
Posted by portman on :
...and with that post I am out for the night.
Posted by lostone on :
why should the shareholders' committee be the backbone of the company? they're not the employees.. shouldn't the company be getting contracts and do business? can't have a good pps w/o income.. but then what do i know.. that update doesn't really tell me anything except wait for PRs
Posted by highhopes on :
I suspect when many read the output of the Shareholders Committee meeting they will be disappointed. But think about it...the same people that were screaming that the meeting should have been an open forum will now complain there was not enough substance. Having open discussions on the 6:1, the court case, etc. without a governance structure in place would have been inappropriate. I am pleased the company is proceeding in an orderly way here and working to maximize our chance at success. While screaming about what would have, could have or should have been done might feel good I fail to see where that will help us turn things. I rational set of people working with Rufus to take the careful, right, step by step approach to turning things around does appear to hold some promise. At least that is the signal that I take away. Thanks to Dogman for his efforts on our behalf.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Eight hours to establish committees? Didn't even address any of the outstanding issues? Not one item off the letter Doc posted?
To me the issue wasn't that I couldn't be on the call. The issue was that there would be nothing, absolutely nothing, of substance coming from the mouth of Rufus. I wasn't disappointed. In the corporate world, the best way to get nothing done is to establish committees to look into matters.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Hey Repo --OUCH!!!!!!!! If WV should have beaten Pitt by more than 18 points, WTF happened here. Another Big East championship and BCS bowl bid for the Mountaineers on Dec. 2
7 RUTGERS (9-1) 11 CINCINNATI (6-5) 30 RECAP | BOX SCORE | PLAY-BY-PLAY Pass: M. Teel (RUT) 21-42, 238, 0 TD Rush: G. Moore (CIN) 16-56, 0 TD Rec: K. Britt (RUT) 9-91, 0 TD
Posted by 3403 on :
Where is the report from the conference call? I didn't see anything on the shareholders web site other then an apology for not letting everyone on.
Posted by wv1973 on :
3403 -- did you check the website and see the letter?
Posted by wv1973 on :
the website posted by port top of this page.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: 3403 -- did you check the website and see the letter?
Yes, is that it?
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: 3403 -- did you check the website and see the letter?
Yes, is that it?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Mornin' All! Guess what? My space bar (which wasn't working yesterday) is now working. No, it didn't need new drivers, etc., it just needed a good blow job ... a small piece of leaf or something was under it.
Off to the races again today ... I've been in a accumulation phase ... figure while everyone is bantering about this & that, I'll pick up some more. I'll probably keep picking up more as I am able ... Have a great Sunday all!
Posted by highhopes on :
Cool AZ glad that worked out for you. I often find that is what I need too.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Letter excerpt:
"I ask that everyone pray for me and the board, as we do our best to do what is in the best interest of the shareholders of CSHD and for Mr. Harris as he leads us into battle."
Are we marching to Pretoria? I feel like we are part of the Crusades. This is ludicris.
Posted by a surfer on :
Eight hours to establish committees? Didn't even address any of the outstanding issues? Not one item off the letter Doc posted?
To me the issue wasn't that I couldn't be on the call. The issue was that there would be nothing, absolutely nothing, of substance coming from the mouth of Rufus. I wasn't disappointed. In the corporate world, the best way to get nothing done is to establish committees to look into matters.
More piss in your cherios.
or perhaps a new pair of glasses.
Posted by wv1973 on :
yep
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by wv1973: 3403 -- did you check the website and see the letter? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, is that it?
Posted by 3403 on :
Absolutley Unbelievable.... We've got **** for brains running things.
Posted by wv1973 on :
IMO, the posters on this board that were part of the conference call owe the rest of us solid explanations of why the letter they drafted was essentially ignored.
Posted by 3403 on :
I think it is about time for me to move on. Nothing but lip service with CSHD, the committee, and this board nothing gets accomplished. I don't think I have ever seen such a cluster f**k in my life. Hours waiting and nothing ever happens, just more and more convoluted.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Oops, you have opened yourself up to a hearty round of "bye-byes" from the residents of Hamelin
3403 Member
Member Rated: posted November 19, 2006 08:06 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think it is about time for me to move on.
Posted by 3403 on :
How much time should a person waste on this or anything not moving in a direction of completion? I actually had some fun while I was banned, that should tell me something.
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Oops, you have opened yourself up to a hearty round of "bye-byes" from the residents of Hamelin
3403 Member
Member Rated: posted November 19, 2006 08:06 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think it is about time for me to move on.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: How much time should a person waste on this or anything not moving in a direction of completion? I actually had some fun while I was banned, that should tell me something.
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Oops, you have opened yourself up to a hearty round of "bye-byes" from the residents of Hamelin
3403 Member
Member Rated: posted November 19, 2006 08:06 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think it is about time for me to move on.
you have wasted far too much time already. Ours.
Posted by 3403 on :
sceptor, look forward to one day meeting you at a shareholders meeting.
Posted by 6digits on :
SYGY?
Posted by 6digits on :
I would rather attorneys were hired to do the fighting and we invest our money for shares like we already did. It seems like there's an identifcation crisis in the making, somewhat. I could be missing something. Maybe some one will elaborate later. But legal councel seems to be the remedy at this time and billions of dollars in bonds should afford that kind of scenario. IMO
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: sceptor, look forward to one day meeting you at a shareholders meeting.
oooooooo scary.
go enjoy your sunday. Its a beautiful day!
Posted by 6digits on :
cont'd ya I already got my butt kicked a few weeks back when the stock was suspended and the PPS has crashed and we don't have a market maker etc,. Deinitely calls for more than a bunch of angry stockholders. Could be a paper tiger we will see.
Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning, and good bye
Posted by 3403 on :
No threat sceptor, would really like to meet you.
Posted by highhopes on :
The update from Dogman suggests that in order to register we must have our stock certification numbers. I bought shares through Vanguard but do not see certification numbers anywhere? Does anyone know what I need to do to get my certification numbers? Thanks for the help
Posted by dlab on :
Today, 10:31 AM #7670 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 205 The phone call with Rufus was an hour. We talked for about 30 minutes before Mr Harris came on and then stayed on for about 2 hours afterward. There is some more information that I will update you on everything else today.
Here is a some of the information that we discussed:
He has 4 market makers that he is currently working with and each and everyone of the MM are very excited and want to be the first MM. He said they are hounding him to be the MM.
He said that he had a lawyer retained.
The first order of business with the committee is to recomend to Rufus is we need to get back to the OTCBB ASAP
Later today I will update you further.
James
Posted by portman on :
Good Morning all - hopfully cooler heads prevail today.
This is the most wild speculation I have seen in a long time.
Posted by Jagman on :
This board is getting out of hand. The PR stated this was a shareholder committee meeting not a shareholder meeting. The specific purpose of the meeting was to establish the guidelines for establishing the rest of the committee. For those that are upset we didn't get any information about the company and where we are headed, quit taking things out of context and reading more into the PR than what it is. With the hot water the company is in right now with the SEC, it is wise for Mr. Harris to keep his mouth shut for the time being until such time that the matter is resolved. The SEC is just looking for anything to shut this company down, and ANYTHING he says could just add more fuel to the fire. (IMO)
Posted by wv1973 on :
remember, 50 percent of the mm's graduated in the bottom half of their investing class. Names, we want names. An attorney, MMs. The first order of business should not be to recommend we need to get back to the BB,(that should go w/o saying) but to prove we are worthy, honest, forthright to be there in the first place.
In other words -- show me the bonds, show me the german bank contract, show me the attorney, show me the mm, show me the 8k, show me the 10k -- show me the proof.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Jagman -- then why did doc post the first draft of the letter from the committee to RPH requesting the answers to the questions we deserve answers to. Are you telling us that the committee didn't know the purpose of the conference call? Give me a break.
Posted by portman on :
wv...try to stay away from assumptions.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: sceptor, look forward to one day meeting you at a shareholders meeting.
LOL I love e-thuggers. They sound so scary. Posted by frank021474 on :
The first PR I see that lists Committee members by handles like Dogman and JesusPOWER I am going to drink drano.
To me that will keep this stock in penny land forever. The longer its engorged in the message boards- relying on them for business communications then the longer we will not move into the nasdaq type stock world.
I can't say that I fully understand the strategy of making the "compensation committee" a top priority- I would think they have bigger fish to fry. So I guess its time to research and try figuring out this strategy.
Monday should be 10q day- provided its 5 calendar days not business days, not to mention a 10ka would be nice.
So back to the usual- I wait
Posted by coollbreezz on :
how could i get the password for the cshd room on pal
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: The first PR I see that lists Committee members by handles like Dogman and JesusPOWER I am going to drink drano.
To me that will keep this stock in penny land forever. The longer its engorged in the message boards- relying on them for business communications then the longer we will not move into the nasdaq type stock world.
I can't say that I fully understand the strategy of making the "compensation committee" a top priority- I would think they have bigger fish to fry. So I guess its time to research and try figuring out this strategy.
Monday should be 10q day- provided its 5 calendar days not business days, not to mention a 10ka would be nice.
So back to the usual- I wait
Look at the bright side, only 6 more months of waiting until it's a long term capitol gain. Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL SCEP! I bought into this during the FHAL logging days. Didn't even cross my mind I would putting up a christmas tree still messin with it Posted by 3403 on :
Headed to church, check in later.
Posted by sceptor on :
Yup I bought for the logs too. No one guessed it would take this course.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, you are wrong. There are approximately 800 members on the shareholder committee. The company charter, according to Rufus, states that three members of the shareholder committee can be elected to address to board of directors.
The press release did in fact say there would be a meeting on Saturday at 5:00 P.M. of the shareholder committee. Even Dogman apologized that there were only 10 seats available to listen in. That tells me that he understood it to be all inclusive as well. Instead it was executed so poorly that only a select few were able to attend.
Feel free to spin this to your hearts content, but the fact is it’s just another erroneous press release issued by the company, which is in direct violation of the injunction they signed.
I really don’t care about being excluded from the conference call. No sour grapes here at all. My concern is that the company continues to fail on its execution and its impact to my personal equity. You can try to spin it anyway you want, but its simply gross negligence or willful contempt of a Federal Judge. Hey, don’t take my opinion just ask the SEC. The fact that we allowed the SEC the opportunity to file a default judgment says it all.
quote:Originally posted by Jagman: This board is getting out of hand. The PR stated this was a shareholder committee meeting not a shareholder meeting. The specific purpose of the meeting was to establish the guidelines for establishing the rest of the committee. For those that are upset we didn't get any information about the company and where we are headed, quit taking things out of context and reading more into the PR than what it is. With the hot water the company is in right now with the SEC, it is wise for Mr. Harris to keep his mouth shut for the time being until such time that the matter is resolved. The SEC is just looking for anything to shut this company down, and ANYTHING he says could just add more fuel to the fire. (IMO)
Posted by Jagman on :
Because the meeting was called by Mr. Harris, not the committe. And the letter, from what I have seen was not created by doc, but forward by doc. The letter was drafted by another shareholder or even by the shareholder committee. It is the same thing as say you are called to a meeting but you bring your own agenda. The meeting was not about your agenda, but about who called the meeting in the first place. IMO
Posted by thesource on :
This is so damn stupid and unnecessary . Dufus needs to stop f'ing around with this crap and put out a PR stating his intentions , addressing the 6 for 1 deal and give us the name of the firm that reps the company . He needs to get his stupid a$$ on the ball and rebut the default judgement in place that the SEC has filed .
If anyone on this board has knowlegde of this info and does not share it with the others , then I say you should leave the board until you decide to . I'm sick and damn tired of hearing that we didn't do enough DD or we need to have patience . Granted , I've only been in this since Sept 06 but I have real money invested and deserve answers .
This company is operating like a pink sheet penny stock and nothing higher so why do we even deserve to be listed on a higher exchange . I'll bet the 10Q doesn't make the deadline and the 10K is atleast another 2-3 weeks away from being filed . Come the 4th of Dec , it won't even matter because Dufus is getting the boot and this company will be nothing anyways .
Posted by GreenDay on :
I think this committee stuff is an orcastrated effort to distract us from 1. the fact that we need a 10q tomorrow 2. the whole problem with the company violating the SEC deadline which is causing the enter of "default" (whatever that means). 3. And another effort to have people get their certificates (so they can't sell). I'm frustrated. WE need Rufus to run this company! Not a shareholder committee.
How can he have a conference call and NOT comment on the 10q or SEC letter. This are very huge concerns for us as shareholders but more importantly the very existance of the company.
Posted by GreenDay on :
If we have 4 mm's, what are they waiting for to do the form they need to do to get us back to otcbb?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: If we have 4 mm's, what are they waiting for to do the form they need to do to get us back to otcbb?
Yeah , I just don't see that right now .
Posted by GreenDay on :
thesource, Your first paragraph above is pretty on target for my thoughts today. Maybe I just need to go watch my Bucs play football today. Oh wait, that is very frustrating also.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Good morning board, my concern is about the information you must provide according to the shareholders committee website. ---------------------------------------------- "The web page will be updated shortly to allow people to enter their information. We will need name, address, phone number, email address, certificate number on your shares, and number of shares. We will only accept entries for a short period of time. This will come out in an official PR from the company." -----------------------------------------------
My concern is how secure is this website going to be. They make it seem like you have to join this committee or you may be S.O.L. They are going to PR that we need to go to the website and enter in our personal information. Everyone, including hackers and thieves will see that the shareholder committee's website will contain all of our personal info, as well as our certificate numbers. This is unsettling to me. Does anyone else find this Disturbing???
Posted by GreenDay on :
I do find it disturbing that a company with billions can't employ a shareholder/investor reltions rep that can handle this task and is asking penny stock bulletin board investors to take charge.
Posted by thesource on :
I for one am not investing another single dollar in this crap fest . I'm leaving my certs with BofA so I can sell them whenever I choose to . Hopefully , sooner or later someone in the inner circle will spill the damn beans to everyone else about what is being said if the SEC doesn't shut it down first for insider trading .
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I do find it disturbing that a company with billions can't employ a shareholder/investor reltions rep that can handle this task and is asking penny stock bulletin board investors to take charge.
EXACTLY!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
source, what is BofA?
Posted by thesource on :
Bank Of America Investments ........
I really wish someone would buy my shares so I could leave this board and waste time in other places !!! Come on Portman , help us all out by buying my shares .
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Oh, it sounded like a mafia organization! LOL
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I do find it disturbing that a company with billions can't employ a shareholder/investor reltions rep that can handle this task and is asking penny stock bulletin board investors to take charge.
EXACTLY!!!
Least they did mention reviewing resumes for the committee. So the guy that sells shoes and posts 8,986 times on HSM is not the winner by default.
Not that message board posters from the penny stock world are NOT qualified- just seems unorthodox considering the current situation with the company.
Tomorrows 10q due date should add some excitment to the Monday before turkey day.
Posted by thesource on :
Who wants to take the bet that the 10Q isn't filed tomorrow ? I'm not sure if that will cause CSHD to add have an E on the end again but wouldn't that be sweet !!! CSHDE trading on the gray market for under a freaking dime . I'm sure the MM's will be fighting each other for the opportunity to be associated with this company after that happens .
Posted by wv1973 on :
port -- no assumptions made. I will only judge what has transpired. No more wait and see. That should be over IMO.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Who wants to take the bet that the 10Q isn't filed tomorrow ? I'm not sure if that will cause CSHD to add have an E on the end again but wouldn't that be sweet !!! CSHDE trading on the gray market for under a freaking dime . I'm sure the MM's will be fighting each other for the opportunity to be associated with this company after that happens .
I`ll take that bet!! I do not believe they will file anything!. I don`t think companies trading on grey sheets are required to make timely filings anyway! and IF this is a scam then there is no reason to rush to get off grey sheets! just drag it out as long as possible until they can figure a way out that does not include jail time!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Oh, it sounded like a mafia organization! LOL
I wish that was the case ........ Maybe ol' Dufus would have an unfortunate accident after this was all over.
Are you serious? Has it reached the level of unfortunate accidents being wished on someone?
You guys take this to personal.
Posted by GreenDay on :
I soo hope we have the 10q tomorrow and a happy turkey day Frank!!
Do we really get another e if no 10q? I thought on the gray's there were no filing requirements and thus no penalty for no 10q (except for the additonal loss of shareholder confidence).
Posted by GreenDay on :
I wish no harm on Rufus. In fact I think he really truly believes himself and everything he says and does are really in good intentions. I bet he is a fantastic person to know (outside of the business world).
Posted by RichBy26 on :
I'm hoping we see the 10Q frank, that would bring some investors much needed morale. Right now my concern is getting past the SEC and back trading on a reputable exchange...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank Of America Investments ........
I really wish someone would buy my shares so I could leave this board and waste time in other places !!! Come on Portman , help us all out by buying my shares .
Its almost worth the money to not see your posts anymore.
Considering the trades are .22 who is going to give you 2 bucks a share?
I will give you .10 a share- how many you got?
Posted by highhopes on :
Does anyone really think that the goals that Rufus has or the people on the call last night are that different? Whether Rufus is more concerned about the shorts or the long term win for the company the short term goal he has is completely consistent as ours...to turn this back around and get the stock trading on the best exchange possible. My sense is that the people on the call probably own way more shares then I do and also want what I want.
The one thing that I absolutely know for certain is nothing is to be gained by having 1000 shareholders on a call screaming that they want the 10Q, they want the 6:1, they want the Nasdaq.
The only hope we have at this stage is that Rufus, working with a small but manageable group of interested shareholders, take the right next steps to get us to our goal. So lets be supportive and let them do that.
The only alternative to that is to moan and whine which is really not helping to accomplish anything anyway.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I saw this pic on HSM and had to find it. Everytime someone brings up the 6:1 I think of this from better off dead.
The kid that runs after him the entire movie for two dollars!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Has anyone spoken with Ben lately? I use to have conversations with him once or twice a week, but his phone has been turned off since MA took over as CEO. Once Rufus regained the position I figured Ben would be around again.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Oh, it sounded like a mafia organization! LOL
I wish that was the case ........ Maybe ol' Dufus would have an unfortunate accident after this was all over.
Are you serious? Has it reached the level of unfortunate accidents being wished on someone?
You guys take this to personal.
If someone broke into your house and stole 10 Grand , would you be pissed or would you wish them a happy holidays and tell yourself that they probably did it because they needed the money ?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank Of America Investments ........
I really wish someone would buy my shares so I could leave this board and waste time in other places !!! Come on Portman , help us all out by buying my shares .
Its almost worth the money to not see your posts anymore.
Considering the trades are .22 who is going to give you 2 bucks a share?
I will give you .10 a share- how many you got?
Hell no , if I wanted to get hammered on this I'd sell them on the open market and let the shorts cover some more positions versus letting you profit from them at this level .
$2.00 a share and they are your , remember this stock will be trading * $15.00 sooner or later . maybe Tut wants them , he could buy them from me to keep me from feeding the beast . I'm sure he could use them to feed his bada$$ cobra with .
Posted by RichBy26 on :
calm down source, I have lost a lot more than that and I'm not complaining. Let's see how this pans out, if it doesn't you might want to invest more in mutual funds, they are much safer...
Posted by frank021474 on :
Spending hard earned money on penny stocks is the same as taking it to Vegas. You can't kick the "house" in the balls if you lose.
Wishing someone happy holidays that broke into your house and stole 10k is different than investing 10k in a penny stock and losing a large portion of your investment.
I suggest seeing where this week takes us before abandoning ship at .22cents a share and invoking thoughts of physical harm on anyone.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
You are missing the point. You can’t, as a publicly traded company, do what CSHD has done. Not only is it an SEC violation, it’s also in direct violation of the injunction signed by RPH and CSHD.
Do you understand that this company is fast tracking its way into SEC receivership? This is not looking good here at all.
How lost is Rufus? Two days before the SEC files for default judgment Rufus goes on subpennyradio and tells his shareholders our “ducks are all lined up”. I love the fact that he is a very positive and confident, but that’s not working out too well.
He spends no money to get legal counsel, which is contempt of a Federal Judge. He still won’t spend money on a public relations firm and continues to put out erroneous press releases, which is in violation of the injunction. And, he won’t spend a dime on an investor relations executive to deal with the shareholder committee mess. Instead he has jesuspower1, the religious zealot; a dead Egyptian, Tony Soprano, Dogman, and a host of other unknowns manage investor relations.
I feel like I’ve stepped into the Twilight Zone. I will be shocked if we aren’t in SEC receivership two weeks from now and in class action suit discussions.
Dogman, I appreciate your efforts – I honestly do! But, what happened yesterday was in direct violation of the injunction – the erroneous press release. Instead of moving forward we continue to trend backward.
If you wish to respond to my point by simply calling me a basher, at least provide me the courtesy to explain specifically where I am wrong. Thanks in advance!
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Does anyone really think that the goals that Rufus has or the people on the call last night are that different? Whether Rufus is more concerned about the shorts or the long term win for the company the short term goal he has is completely consistent as ours...to turn this back around and get the stock trading on the best exchange possible. My sense is that the people on the call probably own way more shares then I do and also want what I want.
The one thing that I absolutely know for certain is nothing is to be gained by having 1000 shareholders on a call screaming that they want the 10Q, they want the 6:1, they want the Nasdaq.
The only hope we have at this stage is that Rufus, working with a small but manageable group of interested shareholders, take the right next steps to get us to our goal. So lets be supportive and let them do that.
The only alternative to that is to moan and whine which is really not helping to accomplish anything anyway.
Posted by highhopes on :
If someone stole 10 grand from me I would call the police. I would not just keep whining to the neighbors as they may get a little tired of it.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: If someone stole 10 grand from me I would call the police. I would not just keep whining to the neighbors as they may get a little tired of it.
whats that SEC number again? LOL!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Again, you only point to your ignorance. The example you give is a criminal complaint and what we’ve been discussing is a civil complaint. The SEC is a civil arm of enforcement.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: If someone stole 10 grand from me I would call the police. I would not just keep whining to the neighbors as they may get a little tired of it.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You are missing the point. You can’t, as a publicly traded company, do what CSHD has done. Not only is it an SEC violation, it’s also in direct violation of the injunction signed by RPH and CSHD.
Do you understand that this company is fast tracking its way into SEC receivership? This is not looking good here at all.
How lost is Rufus? Two days before the SEC files for default judgment Rufus goes on subpennyradio and tells his shareholders our “ducks are all lined up”. I love the fact that he is a very positive and confident, but that’s not working out too well.
He spends no money to get legal counsel, which is contempt of a Federal Judge. He still won’t spend money on a public relations firm and continues to put out erroneous press releases, which is in violation of the injunction. And, he won’t spend a dime on an investor relations executive to deal with the shareholder committee mess. Instead he has jesuspower1, the religious zealot; a dead Egyptian, Tony Soprano, Dogman, and a host of other unknowns manage investor relations.
I feel like I’ve stepped into the Twilight Zone. I will be shocked if we aren’t in SEC receivership two weeks from now and in class action suit discussions.
Dogman, I appreciate your efforts – I honestly do! But, what happened yesterday was in direct violation of the injunction – the erroneous press release. Instead of moving forward we continue to trend backward.
If you wish to respond to my point by simply calling me a basher, at least provide me the courtesy to explain specifically where I am wrong. Thanks in advance!
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Does anyone really think that the goals that Rufus has or the people on the call last night are that different? Whether Rufus is more concerned about the shorts or the long term win for the company the short term goal he has is completely consistent as ours...to turn this back around and get the stock trading on the best exchange possible. My sense is that the people on the call probably own way more shares then I do and also want what I want.
The one thing that I absolutely know for certain is nothing is to be gained by having 1000 shareholders on a call screaming that they want the 10Q, they want the 6:1, they want the Nasdaq.
The only hope we have at this stage is that Rufus, working with a small but manageable group of interested shareholders, take the right next steps to get us to our goal. So lets be supportive and let them do that.
The only alternative to that is to moan and whine which is really not helping to accomplish anything anyway.
Cindy you need to relax a bit.
All these claims of SEC violations on a emergency shareholder meeting are false accusations.
It is perfectly legal to call an emergency meeting and P.R. it with under 30 days notice.
Your head is filled with all that craphub bologne.
I will find the link for you on P.R.ing meetings
Posted by RichBy26 on :
TM, no one is calling you a basher. Many have the same concerns you do. I have done my DD and I feel confident that Rufus has what he said he has. The SEC and exchange problems will work out if infact Rufus provides them with the proper documentation to clear CSHD. The fact is that Rufus is also trying to fight a bigger evil in the market which is impacting all of us and our investments. Rufus has stated many times that he is using this as a vehicle to combat NSS and it is his intention to help make the market a fair and safer place for the average investor. I'm all for his cause and if it takes my money being tied up for awhile so be it. JMHO
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: calm down source, I have lost a lot more than that and I'm not complaining. Let's see how this pans out, if it doesn't you might want to invest more in mutual funds, they are much safer...
I'm calm ........ and I'm over losing my money in this POS stock . I just can't get over the fact that Dufus is still trying spin this like its his doing and he's in charge of the situation . I hope the Judge does ban this moron from ever being a CEO again . Knowing Dufus , he will probably get his name changed again and give it another try somewheres else until he gets busted again .
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You are missing the point. You can’t, as a publicly traded company, do what CSHD has done. Not only is it an SEC violation, it’s also in direct violation of the injunction signed by RPH and CSHD.
Do you understand that this company is fast tracking its way into SEC receivership? This is not looking good here at all.
How lost is Rufus? Two days before the SEC files for default judgment Rufus goes on subpennyradio and tells his shareholders our “ducks are all lined up”. I love the fact that he is a very positive and confident, but that’s not working out too well.
He spends no money to get legal counsel, which is contempt of a Federal Judge. He still won’t spend money on a public relations firm and continues to put out erroneous press releases, which is in violation of the injunction. And, he won’t spend a dime on an investor relations executive to deal with the shareholder committee mess. Instead he has jesuspower1, the religious zealot; a dead Egyptian, Tony Soprano, Dogman, and a host of other unknowns manage investor relations.
I feel like I’ve stepped into the Twilight Zone. I will be shocked if we aren’t in SEC receivership two weeks from now and in class action suit discussions.
Dogman, I appreciate your efforts – I honestly do! But, what happened yesterday was in direct violation of the injunction – the erroneous press release. Instead of moving forward we continue to trend backward.
If you wish to respond to my point by simply calling me a basher, at least provide me the courtesy to explain specifically where I am wrong. Thanks in advance!
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Does anyone really think that the goals that Rufus has or the people on the call last night are that different? Whether Rufus is more concerned about the shorts or the long term win for the company the short term goal he has is completely consistent as ours...to turn this back around and get the stock trading on the best exchange possible. My sense is that the people on the call probably own way more shares then I do and also want what I want.
The one thing that I absolutely know for certain is nothing is to be gained by having 1000 shareholders on a call screaming that they want the 10Q, they want the 6:1, they want the Nasdaq.
The only hope we have at this stage is that Rufus, working with a small but manageable group of interested shareholders, take the right next steps to get us to our goal. So lets be supportive and let them do that.
The only alternative to that is to moan and whine which is really not helping to accomplish anything anyway.
Cindy you need to relax a bit.
All these claims of SEC violations on a emergency shareholder meeting are false accusations.
It is perfectly legal to call an emergency meeting and P.R. it with under 30 days notice.
Your head is filled with all that craphub bologne.
I will find the link for you on P.R.ing meetings
BUMP For Texas Money AKA Cindy
Posted by highhopes on :
Texas, I don't think I am missing the point on this. Believe me this is not my first choice of outcomes. But about the only way I can see the current shareholders winning is to help Rufus turn it. Otherwise the only thing we will get is our name on a lawsuit that will return less then pennies on the dollar years from now. I guess I just cannot see any other way then doing what the group of investors that are working with him are trying to do. Very open to other suggestions but wishing it was different does not seem to be realistic one.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
source, just wait and see how this works out. You haven't lost anything until you sell...
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: If someone stole 10 grand from me I would call the police. I would not just keep whining to the neighbors as they may get a little tired of it.
whats that SEC number again? LOL!!!
You sound alot like Tim Miles all of a sudden?
Posted by thesource on :
I have a suggestion , in fact I have a few suggestions .
(1) Rehire Sabra Dobbs , if she in fact what they claim she was . (2) Hire a good attorney or firm to rep CSHD in this and any other legal proceeding that might come in the future . (3) Hire a PR firm to send out PR's that comply with the SEC and are in the investors best interest . (4) Hire a good clean CFO with a good track record that can be verified . (5) Stop the bull$hit and get to business !!!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
there is a way out of this mess, it's called "merger", protect the company, grow our value then spinoff another company to go after the sec. I believe the assets we have seen are real, I am very comfortable with my own due diligence, but rufus needs to get back to business and build us, go after shorty later, before he dismantles this company... a merge would take care of it, cshd has become extremly negative, think people would invest in this to be "led into battle".. sinking ship unless we get back to the fundamentals..
Posted by frank021474 on :
agreed driver-
Posted by thesource on :
OK ..... Let me ask you fellow CSHD'ers that have done deep DD , can someone show me a link other than the Georgia court link that shows we own these bonds clear and free ?
Posted by frank021474 on :
k folks- I am off. Have to go rake up 800934 bags of leaves outside. Tomorrow is "debris" day
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I agree too driver. I bought into the busines model of this company; not one man's crusade to correct the financial market.
They really should consider a buy out, shed the dead weight, the SEC cloud, and get down to business.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: there is a way out of this mess, it's called "merger", protect the company, grow our value then spinoff another company to go after the sec. I believe the assets we have seen are real, I am very comfortable with my own due diligence, but rufus needs to get back to business and build us, go after shorty later, before he dismantles this company... a merge would take care of it, cshd has become extremly negative, think people would invest in this to be "led into battle".. sinking ship unless we get back to the fundamentals..
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: there is a way out of this mess, it's called "merger", protect the company, grow our value then spinoff another company to go after the sec. I believe the assets we have seen are real, I am very comfortable with my own due diligence, but rufus needs to get back to business and build us, go after shorty later, before he dismantles this company... a merge would take care of it, cshd has become extremly negative, think people would invest in this to be "led into battle".. sinking ship unless we get back to the fundamentals..
I agree .... but what clean company in its right mind wants to taint their image with this crap company ?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I agree too driver. I bought into the busines model of this company; not one man's crusade to correct the financial market.
They really should consider a buy out, shed the dead weight, the SEC cloud, and get down to business.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: there is a way out of this mess, it's called "merger", protect the company, grow our value then spinoff another company to go after the sec. I believe the assets we have seen are real, I am very comfortable with my own due diligence, but rufus needs to get back to business and build us, go after shorty later, before he dismantles this company... a merge would take care of it, cshd has become extremly negative, think people would invest in this to be "led into battle".. sinking ship unless we get back to the fundamentals..
Good point- get the business going and THEN battle the crooked financial market.
Least then I can roll up to the protests with spinners on my pinto.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
If the assets are what is claimed it won't be a problem. They need to find a distressed company to merge or “up list” into that complements their current business model (not a trucking company).
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: there is a way out of this mess, it's called "merger", protect the company, grow our value then spinoff another company to go after the sec. I believe the assets we have seen are real, I am very comfortable with my own due diligence, but rufus needs to get back to business and build us, go after shorty later, before he dismantles this company... a merge would take care of it, cshd has become extremly negative, think people would invest in this to be "led into battle".. sinking ship unless we get back to the fundamentals..
I agree .... but what clean company in its right mind wants to taint their image with this crap company ?
Posted by RichBy26 on :
sorry source, the links have been provided on past threads and I don't have time to look for them. I'll check in later today, some good games are on today!!! Oh, my Buckeyes Won incase you missed the game last night!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
I went to church, and prayed for Rufus and Dogman liked they asked me to.
Posted by highhopes on :
Some of those ideas sound good source.
Got to go too. Sorry to sound preachy but I just get frustrated by negativity. Much prefer to see discussions like the one just started about merger. We are all (or most of us) in the same boat.
Have a good Sunday and this has got to be a better week!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
rufus stated there were 2 banks lined up to merge with, he has a plan and is not letting us know what his plan is, I say give him 1 more week, if he can not perform duties as a CEO, we can organize a petition and go to mike with it.. rufus is brilliant, there is no doubt, but shorty has to be last on his list..
Posted by 3403 on :
A Bank Merger would be right up our financial alley. They already have the people in place to handle our coupons, and JV investments.
They also would have lawyers in place that could deal with the SEC....
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
LOL so the meeting last night was pointless and basically said nothing
Posted by frank021474 on :
Great they aren't playing the Redskins game here in NC! Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: LOL so the meeting last night was pointless and basically said nothing
No, the meeting went well. Dogman is chairman, and he will select others according to their background to help direct the company. They got alot accomplished.
Posted by 3403 on :
"rufus is brilliant, there is no doubt"
Did anyone DD that?
Posted by thesource on :
I will be totally surprised if anyone with half a brain will merge with CSHD . I don't think the company will survive long enough for that to happen unless MA comes back in the picture long enough to get it done .
I'm really wondering how in the hell Dufus and co. managed to convince the BanC of Ven to turn over the bonds to them in the 1st place . He can't even file things in a timely fashion and I've not been able to tie him to any successful bonds or portfolios period . Can the Banc of Ven be that stupid ? If they do infact know something , don't you think they would come to the defense of CSHD and Dufus ? What about the World Health Org ? Where are they in times of need to prove their bonds are owned and managed by CSHD ? Wouldn't it be in all parties best interest to clear this up as soon as possible so CSHD could get back to making them money on the bonds ?
Posted by portman on :
Anyone actually tracking how much time certain posters spend here complaining?
Just a thought...
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Anyone actually tracking how much tie certain posters spend here complaining?
Just a thought...
not sure who here is complaining ? I do see a bunch of concerned investors though.
Posted by 3403 on :
Be patient, Rufus has all his ducks in a row and will be presenting the information we and the SEC needs to keep CSHD on track.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Anyone actually tracking how much time certain posters spend here complaining?
Just a thought...
Anyone tracking how many times certain people get called out to provide this deep DD but have nothing to show for it ? Go back to sipping your wine and listening to you starwars music or whatever it is you listen to .
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Anyone actually tracking how much time certain posters spend here complaining?
Just a thought...
To put it in perspective Portman thesource has posted almost 50 times in the last two days. All with the same theme....
Posted by 3403 on :
Calm down boys. I am privy to some information that makes me more positive about the future outcome of this stock. Hang tight, and buy more shares....
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: LOL so the meeting last night was pointless and basically said nothing
No, the meeting went well. Dogman is chairman, and he will select others according to their background to help direct the company. They got alot accomplished.
posters from a penny stock board are going to help "direct the company"?? posters from these boards have no LEAGLE rights to direct anything!. this is SUPPOSED to be a multi billion dollar company! we are common share holders with a minority interest and so have NO SAY in what the company says or does! Rufus is leading us down the garden path!! the SEC is going to love this one!! he keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper, maybe THAT`S the plan!! blame it on us!!
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Anyone actually tracking how much time certain posters spend here complaining?
Just a thought...
To put it in perspective Portman thesource has posted almost 50 times in the last two days. All with the same theme....
Honestly , what other theme is there with this crappy stock ? Dufus has not done anything in the best interest of CSHD investors . If he wants to burn shorty or battle the SEC , step down and do it on his own dime . He is dragging this company through the mud and has showed ZERO results so far . In a war , you must win one battle at a time . He hasn't won a single battle but expects to win the war in the end . Give me a damn break already with the positive outlook crap . There's nothing to be positive about with this so far .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
cshd is not a dead duck, it very much can be an operating entity we all hoped for, but what happens from this point forward will determine our outcome, if this is cshd vs. sec, we will lose, we need to get back to the basics and concentrate on business, not killing shorty.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
quote: I think this committee stuff is an orcastrated effort to distract us from 1. the fact that we need a 10q tomorrow 2. the whole problem with the company violating the SEC deadline which is causing the enter of "default" (whatever that means). 3. And another effort to have people get their certificates (so they can't sell). I'm frustrated. WE need Rufus to run this company! Not a shareholder committee.
How can he have a conference call and NOT comment on the 10q or SEC letter. This are very huge concerns for us as shareholders but more importantly the very existance of the company.
BINGO! Thats what I've been saying, this will be his excuse for not releasing the 10Q. The shareholder commitee is more important than SEC compliance.
What pisses me off the most is when the 10k was released Rufus said wait till the 10Q comes out because that will have all the new bonds on it. Now that the SEC has him muzzled him, hes not pumping that anymore so I wouldnt be surprised if the 10Q is without any new bonds or substance.Rufus is like 0-6 for keeping his word so I dont expect any different when Monday comes, but like I always say, I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123:
quote: I think this committee stuff is an orcastrated effort to distract us from 1. the fact that we need a 10q tomorrow 2. the whole problem with the company violating the SEC deadline which is causing the enter of "default" (whatever that means). 3. And another effort to have people get their certificates (so they can't sell). I'm frustrated. WE need Rufus to run this company! Not a shareholder committee.
How can he have a conference call and NOT comment on the 10q or SEC letter. This are very huge concerns for us as shareholders but more importantly the very existance of the company.
BINGO! Thats what I've been saying, this will be his excuse for not releasing the 10Q. The shareholder commitee is more important than SEC compliance.
What pisses me off the most is when the 10k was released Rufus said wait till the 10Q comes out because that will have all the new bonds on it. Now that the SEC has him muzzled him, hes not pumping that anymore so I wouldnt be surprised if the 10Q is without any new bonds or substance.Rufus is like 0-6 for keeping his word so I dont expect any different when Monday comes, but like I always say, I hope I'm wrong.
more like 1-6: come on- I heard that was a great bbq Posted by frank021474 on :
or 2-7, he also said you would remember his name forever.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: or 2-7, he also said you would remember his name forever.
LOL
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: or 2-7, he also said you would remember his name forever.
That no $hit !!! More like the name I wish I never heard .
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: or 2-7, he also said you would remember his name forever.
That no $hit !!! More like the name I wish I never heard .
If I even say "Rufus" around my buddy and his wife he gets a coache purse upside the head (Fellow CSHD Long).
Even non-stock traders know him LOL!
Posted by 3403 on :
Geeez, now I know what I used to sound like. Look there is a lot to be done, and Rufus is only one man. Give him a break, he'll get it done. There is no way in h*ll a man who loves horses would lie to us. Doggone BBQ's etc. what more does he have to do to prove his sincerity.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Geeez, now I know what I used to sound like. Look there is a lot to be done, and Rufus is only one man. Give him a break, he'll get it done. There is no way in h*ll a man who loves horses would lie to us. Doggone BBQ's etc. what more does he have to do to prove his sincerity.
Are you serious ? What does loving horses have to do with this ? I'm kind of hoping one of those horses give him a swift kick in the head ........... you pick which one . It doesn't really matter to me anymore .
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Calm down boys. I am privy to some information that makes me more positive about the future outcome of this stock. Hang tight, and buy more shares....
I'll tell you what , you PM the info you've had the privy to know . If its convincing , I'll shut up and sit back . If its not , I'll call you down on it and say you are full of $hit .
Posted by 3403 on :
You are loosing sight of the bigger picture. Our JV's are going to feed the worlds hunger, fight global warming, save the whales, begin re-forestation, and create alternative fuels. Quit sweating the small stuff. I told you I was privy to some information I got this morning that has convinced me all is going as it should.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
That’s salacious and slander to say Rufus loves horses. Do you have pictures to substantiate that outrageous claim?
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Geeez, now I know what I used to sound like. Look there is a lot to be done, and Rufus is only one man. Give him a break, he'll get it done. There is no way in h*ll a man who loves horses would lie to us. Doggone BBQ's etc. what more does he have to do to prove his sincerity.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
This can only be achieved once we have established lunar corporate headquarters and begin selling lunar timeshares.
I’m giddy like a school girl on prom night!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You are loosing sight of the bigger picture. Our JV's are going to feed the worlds hunger, fight global warming, save the whales, begin re-forestation, and create alternative fuels. Quit sweating the small stuff. I told you I was privy to some information I got this morning that has convinced me all is going as it should.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You are loosing sight of the bigger picture. Our JV's are going to feed the worlds hunger, fight global warming, save the whales, begin re-forestation, and create alternative fuels. Quit sweating the small stuff. I told you I was privy to some information I got this morning that has convinced me all is going as it should.
My offer still stands ........
And I sure wish someone would take one for the team and buy my damn shares so I could leave this damn thread . I paid for admission so I'm gonna get my moneys worth until someone takes them off of my hands !!!
Posted by 3403 on :
the source,As you may not know, I am a good Catholic and went to Mass this morning. I asked St Mathew to put all of us and our shares in his hands (must follow the chain of command here)and save us from failure. Now I wasn't struck by lighting so I assume I am privy to information that makes all well.
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Be patient, Rufus has all his ducks in a row and will be presenting the information we and the SEC needs to keep CSHD on track.
you wouldn't know anything about sarcasm, would you?
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You are loosing sight of the bigger picture. Our JV's are going to feed the worlds hunger, fight global warming, save the whales, begin re-forestation, and create alternative fuels. Quit sweating the small stuff. I told you I was privy to some information I got this morning that has convinced me all is going as it should.
3404 - i just love your post, you are my new favorite!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Did they spike the Communal wine with CSHD kool-aid?
quote:Originally posted by 3403: the source,As you may not know, I am a good Catholic and went to Mass this morning. I asked St Mathew to put all of us and our shares in his hands (must follow the chain of command here)and save us from failure. Now I wasn't struck by lighting so I assume I am privy to information that makes all well.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This can only be achieved once we have established lunar corporate headquarters and begin selling lunar timeshares.
I’m giddy like a school girl on prom night!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: You are loosing sight of the bigger picture. Our JV's are going to feed the worlds hunger, fight global warming, save the whales, begin re-forestation, and create alternative fuels. Quit sweating the small stuff. I told you I was privy to some information I got this morning that has convinced me all is going as it should.
It will be sweet ...... this is just a rumor but I've heard that Dufus is working with NASA to develop a ship to travel there and start the moon colonization by the end of the year .
Here's a secret spy photo of it during testing .
Granted this is pure speculation at this point but I believe that this was one of the topics covered yesterday in the secret meeting . This would explain why Dufus is not concerned with the SEC and why he's not been addressing their case .
Posted by GreenDay on :
Don't forget St. Jude my favorite patron st.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: the source,As you may not know, I am a good Catholic and went to Mass this morning. I asked St Mathew to put all of us and our shares in his hands (must follow the chain of command here)and save us from failure. Now I wasn't struck by lighting so I assume I am privy to information that makes all well.
I thought you were being serious . I almost called TDAmertrade to have them pull your basher license and stop payment on your check . You are lucky my friend that you were only joking ........
Posted by 3403 on :
It's Sunday. Hope Rufus isn't working on the Sabbath. We don't need to create anymore enemies.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: It's Sunday. Hope Rufus isn't working on the Sabbath. We don't need to create anymore enemies.
I doubt it , the 10Q has been done for weeks now . They are just trying to catch shorty with his pants down .
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Don't forget St. Jude my favorite patron st.
The reason I picked St Matthew is he shows up here on occassion. St Jude, who know where he's been?
Posted by GreenDay on :
I know, St.Matt's cool, but St.Jude is patron of the impossible and hopeless causes.
So who's getting cert's now? I never did and never intended to. I always wanted to be able to sell when ever I felt like it. However, I won't be selling anytime soon now. Too much loss, not worth it. IF we ever do get 6 to 1, could it possibly be a condition to hold certs? I doubt it. I reallly don't care if I vote, but my hubby thinks we should get them.
Posted by Lauralai on :
You know, a few pages back, I seem to remember someone quoting Dogman as saying that they were going to record the conference call and publish it if necessary. Anyone able to follow up on that yet? I'd dearly love to hear it.
Posted by trade04 on :
Im gonna say it... we're f#$%ed
Posted by thesource on :
Greenday , IMO its a total waste of money to pull the certs . The stock isn't even worth the fee of pulling the certs right now .
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Follow your instincts, not message boards.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I know, St.Matt's cool, but St.Jude is patron of the impossible and hopeless causes.
So who's getting cert's now? I never did and never intended to. I always wanted to be able to sell when ever I felt like it. However, I won't be selling anytime soon now. Too much loss, not worth it. IF we ever do get 6 to 1, could it possibly be a condition to hold certs? I doubt it. I reallly don't care if I vote, but my hubby thinks we should get them.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Greenday , IMO its a total waste of money to pull the certs . The stock isn't even worth the fee of pulling the certs right now .
I agree.
Posted by 3403 on :
An old friend of mine (Michael Milken) who by the way has some knowledge of bonds and the SEC for that matter, says "hypothecation takes more then 3-5 days and proving ownership prior is next to impossible".
Posted by driver4t4 on :
where is MA at, he holds the most shares, and, does'nt he have to a 144 to sale his shares ?? he knows more than us and as long as he is not selling, that is a good sign.
Posted by GreenDay on :
yea Texas, I know. I was just wondering if there is some benefit to getting them that I am not thinking of.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Since no one is going to post anything on this thread with all the whining... PM me that info this morning. Thanks.
I'm lurking. Bye.
Posted by thesource on :
It sure has gotten quiet in here on the pumpers side . I was really hoping Portman or ST. Matt would get pissed enough to just spill the beans so the rest of us simpletons could hear the gospel of Dufus and rejuvinate our passion for this stock .
Posted by sceptor on :
LOL this place has turned into ibash, another wasted forum gone to hell.
Posted by 3403 on :
Who's bashing. I have renewed faith.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I personally don’t believe the benefit as explained to me. The one irrefutable truth is that you want a quick exit from CSHD holding your certificates isn’t the strategy for you. Again, follow your instincts.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: yea Texas, I know. I was just wondering if there is some benefit to getting them that I am not thinking of.
Posted by 3403 on :
I am excited about the possible Bank merger, the shareholders committee, my church experience, and old friend Michael Milkens words of wisdom. There seems to be alot of positive things happending today.
Posted by GreenDay on :
Why is discussing if their are benefits of pulling certs at this time bashing? why does that make it a wasted forum? We are all hoping for a 10q tomorrow, but the conference call is all we have to discuss new today - and what came from that was that to be on the committe you need to hold certs - so that makes it a legit conversation for posting? yes or no?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: LOL this place has turned into ibash, another wasted forum gone to hell.
Oh believe me , if this thread was the other way around and pumpers were in full force , you guys would think it was awesome . I think this board is a cross between Ihub and HSM . Both sides are allowed their opinions and at this point its all opinions . All the DD thats been done has been leads or links that are relates to Dufus and Co. . I've yet to see an independent source step up and offer proof one way or the other on a non biased level .
Posted by frank021474 on :
I don't intend to get certs- I have this stock to make a chunk of change and roll.
My long term retirement etc... is done by smarter people than me. This is graaaavvvyyyyyy!
Posted by 3403 on :
My long term retirement etc... is done by smarter people than me. This is graaaavvvyyyyyy!
You know making gravy is very tricky. Just the right amount of heat, flour, stirring or it gets lumpy and is useless. Just ask Martha Stewart who also has some experience in the stock market.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
The honest truth is that it looks like a basher convention because there just isn’t anything positive to say. The shareholder committee meeting was PR debacle. Its been one crazy disappointment after another – even with “our ducks lined up”. So, I guess no one is allowed to speak now until there is something good to say.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Since no one is going to post anything on this thread with all the whining... PM me that info this morning. Thanks.
I'm lurking. Bye.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: The honest truth is that it looks like a basher convention because there just isn’t anything positive to say. The shareholder committee meeting was PR debacle. Its been one crazy disappointment after another – even with “our ducks lined up”. So, I guess no one is allowed to speak now until there is something good to say.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Since no one is going to post anything on this thread with all the whining... PM me that info this morning. Thanks.
I'm lurking. Bye.
Thats kind of how I see it as well .
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: LOL this place has turned into ibash, another wasted forum gone to hell.
septor, it's not bashing, maybe some of this might be, but the main thing is where do we go from here ?? we have battled shorty and there was a bloodbath last week, this week-end we learn we have a paid shareholder committee, where is our attorney to help us out of this mess, he needs to be paid also.. these are pure facts... I hope like everyone else this stock turns around, I am rideing this to the top or the bottom, we need a 10-q.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: LOL this place has turned into ibash, another wasted forum gone to hell.
septor, it's not bashing, maybe some of this might be, but the main thing is where do we go from here ?? we have battled shorty and there was a bloodbath last week, this week-end we learn we have a paid shareholder committee, where is our attorney to help us out of this mess, he needs to be paid also.. these are pure facts... I hope like everyone else this stock turns around, I am rideing this to the top or the bottom, we need a 10-q.
since when is the shareholder commity being paid? and by whom? and how mutch?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: LOL this place has turned into ibash, another wasted forum gone to hell.
septor, it's not bashing, maybe some of this might be, but the main thing is where do we go from here ?? we have battled shorty and there was a bloodbath last week, this week-end we learn we have a paid shareholder committee, where is our attorney to help us out of this mess, he needs to be paid also.. these are pure facts... I hope like everyone else this stock turns around, I am rideing this to the top or the bottom, we need a 10-q.
since when is the shareholder commity being paid? and by whom? and how mutch?
the details are not released, but I should of said compensated, could be for the website and out of pocket expense, I hope that is what it means. but it is listed on the shareholders committee update from yesterday's meeting.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
As a mod wanta be, I think the negativity, cuss words and sarcasim must stop. As I told you I am privy to some information that has given me renewed hope. 1. We have gotten a recent PR 2. Shareholders Committee has held their meeting 3. Talk of a Bank merger 4. Web-site being updated 5. Shareholder web-site constructed 6. Something about a lunar module? 7. St Matthew has not said he wouldn't answer my prayers 8. My old friend Michael Milken likens his experience to Rufus' and came out on top 9. The right amount of heat, flour and stirring makes for a good gravy
and it's not even 3pm, what more do you want?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: As a mod wanta be, I think the negativity, cuss words and sarcasim must stop. As I told you I am privy to some information that has given me renewed hope. 1. We have gotten a recent PR 2. Shareholders Committee has held their meeting 3. Talk of a Bank merger 4. Web-site being updated 5. Shareholder web-site constructed 6. Something about a lunar module? 7. St Matthew has not said he wouldn't answer my prayers 8. My old friend Michael Milken likens his experience to Rufus' and came out on top 9. The right amount of heat, flour and stirring makes for a good gravy
and it's not even 3pm, what more do you want?
Redskins to beat Tampa bay- they are up by 1point right now 3rd qtr
Posted by 3403 on :
Nascar Nextel Cup Championships in 23 minutes...
Posted by thesource on :
And I am fixing to go get something to eat with the family . Sounds like a great plan guys .
Posted by 3403 on :
Redskins to beat Tampa bay- they are up by 1point right now 3rd qtr
5 shares of CSHD says it won't happen
Posted by betting babe on :
i haven't been here much. hasn't been much concrete info to discuss, and it appears to me that is the way that rufus likes it.
lotsa propoganda, no company revenue.
lotsa legal wrangling and ego stroking, no forward movement.
but nothing bothers me more than "the committee".
i'll tell you one thing, the "committee owners" had better have some good liability insurance, collecting all that personal info on their website. and i expect to see some kind of disclaimer on there once the signup form is implemented. that's a lot of info to be responsible for; it's one thing to access a NOBO list and another to have all of the personal data to go with it. there's a reason that info is kept private. then again, rufus isn't 'officially involved' so the company would be clear. still, it's worrysome.
and to infer that not joining leaves you out in the cold? puhleeze. that'd be insider trading. public info is public info.
where are the reprocussions for all those people who didn't pull certs eh? and why exactly did i DTC my shares from TDAm to merrill? so i could look stupid when they hit a dime??!
most worrysome is this statement: Mr. Harris stated that the Shareholders Committee is very powerful and will be the backbone of the company. We will be able to basically appoint the people we want to lead the ship. I am very confident in our shareholder base, as I have met so many intelligent people since we started this journey. I ask that everyone pray for me and the board, as we do our best to do what is in the best interest of the shareholders of CSHD and for Mr. Harris as he leads us into battle.
the shareholders committee is the backbone of the company? shouldn't REVENUES be the backbone of the company??! SUBS? ASSETS??
appoint people to lead the ship? shouldnt that be the job of the CEO?!
pray for you? dude, i dont *pray* for my investments. chit man, i rarely pray period. i rely on good sound logic to make investment decisions... brain power over the-spirit-of-wall-street guidance. i'll leave prayer for religious ceremonies.
he's leading us into battle? tell ya what, why dont you lead us to the bank first, we'll purchase a nice arsenal with our earnings, and we'll be better equipped for the battle.
...after you figure out who's gonna be the friggin CEO, that is.
i don't see anyone accepting responsibility here. and that is... worrysome.
My sister, whom I promised to pay off her house with my CSHD gains, will not be happy if this doesn't fly. She lives up near Jenna.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: My sister, whom I promised to pay off her house with my CSHD gains, will not be happy if this doesn't fly. She lives up near Jenna.
u should never make promises on things you arent in control of...
Posted by 3403 on :
It is amazing. People on this board just love to give me advise. I liken it to taking career instruction from a welfare recipient.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: It is amazing. People on this board just love to give me advise. I liken it to taking career instruction from a welfare recipient.
then dont make a comment like that if u dont want any feedback....Scumbag...
Posted by driver4t4 on :
in total agreement betting babe, but I wish there was a way to help this company go forward rather than be slaughtered on wall street, the "shareholders committee" is not going to get a thing done for us, they have no "power", we need a merge and we need it quickly, the name cshd has a strong negative impact, that is why we are at .20 a share again. I do hope us all well.
Posted by penny_player on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: It is amazing. People on this board just love to give me advise. I liken it to taking career instruction from a welfare recipient.
People, please stop spelling advice with an s, before you get me doing it too. Thanks. Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i haven't been here much. hasn't been much concrete info to discuss, and it appears to me that is the way that rufus likes it.
lotsa propoganda, no company revenue.
lotsa legal wrangling and ego stroking, no forward movement.
but nothing bothers me more than "the committee".
i'll tell you one thing, the "committee owners" had better have some good liability insurance, collecting all that personal info on their website. and i expect to see some kind of disclaimer on there once the signup form is implemented. that's a lot of info to be responsible for; it's one thing to access a NOBO list and another to have all of the personal data to go with it. there's a reason that info is kept private. then again, rufus isn't 'officially involved' so the company would be clear. still, it's worrysome.
and to infer that not joining leaves you out in the cold? puhleeze. that'd be insider trading. public info is public info.
where are the reprocussions for all those people who didn't pull certs eh? and why exactly did i DTC my shares from TDAm to merrill? so i could look stupid when they hit a dime??!
most worrysome is this statement: Mr. Harris stated that the Shareholders Committee is very powerful and will be the backbone of the company. We will be able to basically appoint the people we want to lead the ship. I am very confident in our shareholder base, as I have met so many intelligent people since we started this journey. I ask that everyone pray for me and the board, as we do our best to do what is in the best interest of the shareholders of CSHD and for Mr. Harris as he leads us into battle.
the shareholders committee is the backbone of the company? shouldn't REVENUES be the backbone of the company??! SUBS? ASSETS??
appoint people to lead the ship? shouldnt that be the job of the CEO?!
pray for you? dude, i dont *pray* for my investments. chit man, i rarely pray period. i rely on good sound logic to make investment decisions... brain power over the-spirit-of-wall-street guidance. i'll leave prayer for religious ceremonies.
he's leading us into battle? tell ya what, why dont you lead us to the bank first, we'll purchase a nice arsenal with our earnings, and we'll be better equipped for the battle.
...after you figure out who's gonna be the friggin CEO, that is.
i don't see anyone accepting responsibility here. and that is... worrysome.
Its also my concern that the shareholder committee has been deemed the helmsman of the company.
Its like asking the store employees of Walmart to make executive decisions for the company.
I understand Rufus' attempt to bring the shareholders closer to the company but the line has to drawn somewhere.
Does he want all of us to become insiders?? LOL
An unknown shareholder that qualifies with a resume instead of post count on a board would be a wise choice.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
from hsm.. Originally Posted by dogman The phone call with Rufus was an hour. We talked for about 30 minutes before Mr Harris came on and then stayed on for about 2 hours afterward. There is some more information that I will update you on everything else today.
Here is a some of the information that we discussed:
He has 4 market makers that he is currently working with and each and everyone of the MM are very excited and want to be the first MM. He said they are hounding him to be the MM.
He said that he had a lawyer retained.
The first order of business with the committee is to recomend to Rufus is we need to get back to the OTCBB ASAP
Later today I will update you further.
James
I hope rufus pr's this before tomorrow morning..
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: from hsm.. Originally Posted by dogman The phone call with Rufus was an hour. We talked for about 30 minutes before Mr Harris came on and then stayed on for about 2 hours afterward. There is some more information that I will update you on everything else today.
Here is a some of the information that we discussed:
He has 4 market makers that he is currently working with and each and everyone of the MM are very excited and want to be the first MM. He said they are hounding him to be the MM.
He said that he had a lawyer retained.
The first order of business with the committee is to recomend to Rufus is we need to get back to the OTCBB ASAP
Later today I will update you further.
James
I hope rufus pr's this before tomorrow morning..
I saw that- the only part that concerns me on that is the 1st priority is to get off the OTC.
I would like to see the SEC investigation wrapped up before we move to any new markets. I would hate for a move to the OTC and the PPS is soaring just to have some other SEC debaccle take our PPS down.
If we are still on the greys the volume is dry enough with everyone holding for the new market that we can withstand quite the beating.
Just my 2 cents~
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: It is amazing. People on this board just love to give me advise. I liken it to taking career instruction from a welfare recipient.
then dont make a comment like that if u dont want any feedback....Scumbag...
scumbag-a dirty or despicable person
Sorry, error my CSHD brother.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I don’t think the question should be “how do we get off the grey sheets”. The real interesting question is why are we still on the grey sheets?
Tut on HSM tells us everyone to set GTC orders and the market makers will be legally obligated to make the market. Rufus states on subpennyradio that market makers are lined up and ready to go – no worries!
Yet here we are entering our second week on the grey sheets. For me , the BIG question is WHY. I think the answer that question will shed some light on other lingering issues.
Posted by betting babe on :
a company's impact is as big as it's bottom line is strong.
we could be run by a bunch of morons... if there's revenue, there's investors.
what happened to all those big deals that were on the verge of announcement? suddenly they were of no value?
i feel we are being distracted from the true issue - the deals never came to fruition. if they had it wouldnt matter who was running the company - we'd still be soaring based on a green bottom line.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: in total agreement betting babe, but I wish there was a way to help this company go forward rather than be slaughtered on wall street, the "shareholders committee" is not going to get a thing done for us, they have no "power", we need a merge and we need it quickly, the name cshd has a strong negative impact, that is why we are at .20 a share again. I do hope us all well.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
let's hope in the next pr we hear the bonds have been hypothicated, and the jv's have been funded, that would add value. that could be our saving grace in all of this.
Posted by 3403 on :
Michael Milken says, "hypothecation is where the rubber meets the road".
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe good thought. I keep thinking of a small group of major stockholders when the committee is mentioned that are most likely the driving force of CSHD's direction wherever a vote is required. They won't ask us first.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: from hsm.. Originally Posted by dogman
He has 4 market makers that he is currently working with and each and everyone of the MM are very excited and want to be the first MM. He said they are hounding him to be the MM.
Im glad they have been hounding him to get on a board and we're still grey.
Posted by 6digits on :
Speaking of major shareholders one would think that they would be all over Rufus azz to make this work considering the size of their stake in it. Makes me wonder whats up.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Babe good thought. I keep thinking of a small group of major stockholders when the committee is mentioned that are most likely the driving force of CSHD's direction wherever a vote is required. They won't ask us first.
The committee to me means nothing, just another complication in this saga, if, rufus does his job, we should be fine, otherwise the committee is a committee of a stock trading for maybe a penny, first order of business, fund the jv's.....please.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Speaking of major shareholders one would think that they would be all over Rufus azz to make this work considering the size of their stake in it. Makes me wonder whats up.
AGREED....BILLIONS OD DOLLARS IN ASSETS....CRACKPOT MANAGEMENT...GO FIGURE
Posted by bilgert on :
This quote comes from Jim Cramer, regarding naked shorting (Rufus' first point of contention); but his reasoning can also be applied to the company's recent drop in PPS and the proclivity for poorly run companies to blame the process and not look introspectively.
The bottom line- over time, the value of profitable companies goes up (BB is right, sometimes even morons get rich/lucky), and the crappy ones go down.
BB and PK world is wrought with manipulation, which smart traders exploit for short term, often explosive gains. But over time, a profitable business prevails over any manipulation/shorting practices, IMO. It remains to be seen what CSHD proves itself to be.
The emphasis of forming committees and combatting litigation, as opposed to pursuing deals and improving/strengthening share value is less than encouraging. Rufus' time would be better spent continuing day to day operations and pursuing deals and negotiating for revenue generating assets - and let lawyers or assistants deal with legal mumbo-jumbo and shareholder committees and other somewhat important, but less critical endeavors for a CEO. If he doesn't, then I fail to understand what his whole deal is.
Yes, it's nice to have a hands-on CEO, but his objectives are not very focused these days and it jeopardizes the strength of the company.
"I continue to think that short-sellers should be considered blameless in almost every case that I have ever seen involving a decline. I have heard the alibi endlessly. I always say that if a company under the stock is any good at all, the shorts will be forced to cover, and the stock will go up even more than it should.
Don't be deluded by the Regulation SHO advocates. They are often well-meaning, but they don't know how the process works. They are vocal; this article will antagonize them, and I will be savaged for the common-sense thread exposed here.
So what.
Worth doing, just to remind you that the companies that are often mentioned as victims deserve their victimhood."
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: a company's impact is as big as it's bottom line is strong.
we could be run by a bunch of morons... if there's revenue, there's investors.
what happened to all those big deals that were on the verge of announcement? suddenly they were of no value?
i feel we are being distracted from the true issue - the deals never came to fruition. if they had it wouldnt matter who was running the company - we'd still be soaring based on a green bottom line.
~BB
Posted by 6digits on :
never mind.
Posted by pepa z depa on :
can anyone enlighten me what happened to cshd in last two weeks, please? thanks i was on holidays, the logged to my account to see that the last trade on friday was for about 22 cents. I still hold 5K of shares, made a lot of money in the past from CSHD and held the rest to see how this will play out.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by pepa z depa: can anyone enlighten me what happened to cshd in last two weeks, please? thanks i was on holidays, the logged to my account to see that the last trade on friday was for about 22 cents. I still hold 5K of shares, made a lot of money in the past from CSHD and held the rest to see how this will play out.
LOL
gotta love it. now back to the bashers. texasmoney?
Posted by GreenDay on :
3403 - I took your bait.
http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by Lauralai: You know, a few pages back, I seem to remember someone quoting Dogman as saying that they were going to record the conference call and publish it if necessary. Anyone able to follow up on that yet? I'd dearly love to hear it.
apparently the 20 who were privy to conf call are in no hurry to share the additional details with us.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Originally posted by Lauralai: You know, a few pages back, I seem to remember someone quoting Dogman as saying that they were going to record the conference call and publish it if necessary. Anyone able to follow up on that yet? I'd dearly love to hear it.
apparently the 20 who were privy to conf call are in no hurry to share the additional details with us.
yeah f#$% bags...
Posted by 3403 on :
That is amazing. They all know how many of us are waiting with baited breath to hear any news. How can this so called committee (the trusted 10) not report back. Could Rufus have promised them something he is unwilling to share with the rest?
Posted by 3403 on :
It seems to me if the committee doesn't share important news about OUR company before opening bell tomorrow morning they have an undue advantage over us which makes this a legal matter.
Posted by frank021474 on :
They reported that the conf call portion was with RPH lasted an hour. The other hours spent before and after RPH exited were to handle the taskings that came out of the call.
The notes are on the shareholder website. Dogmando did also post that "4 mms were lined up" and that "we have a lawyer" but as usual- its all hearsay without coming out officially.
I just hope that when RPH said " I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend." he didn't mean hes going to jump on subPenny Radio Posted by a surfer on :
tampa won.
Posted by highhopes on :
Pretty sure we will see something tonight because without it there would be some question about an unfair trading advantage as 3403 points out. So they are getting things lined up to do it right. Exactly like we have asked them to do.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I saw that surfer
least they got within 3? They didnt televise the game here in Raleigh so I didnt get to watch it. I think it ended 17 to 20?
Posted by lostone on :
LOL, BB, my thoughts exactly after I read it too.. i really feel like an idiot for staying this long.. they really need to get their priorities straight.. geez.. status of CEO and doing this.. tsk tsk tsk
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: They reported that the conf call portion was with RPH lasted an hour. The other hours spent before and after RPH exited were to handle the taskings that came out of the call.
The notes are on the shareholder website. Dogmando did also post that "4 mms were lined up" and that "we have a lawyer" but as usual- its all hearsay without coming out officially.
I just hope that when RPH said " I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend." he didn't mean hes going to jump on subPenny Radio
i wouldnt mind hearing it str8 from his mouth and be able to ask questions....subpennyradio would be an excellent way to let us know whats up...
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: tampa won.
Yesssssssss! Go Bucs
Can anyone explain what the court entry of default really means?
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: tampa won.
Yesssssssss! Go Bucs
Can anyone explain what the court entry of default really means?
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: They reported that the conf call portion was with RPH lasted an hour. The other hours spent before and after RPH exited were to handle the taskings that came out of the call.
The notes are on the shareholder website. Dogmando did also post that "4 mms were lined up" and that "we have a lawyer" but as usual- its all hearsay without coming out officially.
I just hope that when RPH said " I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend." he didn't mean hes going to jump on subPenny Radio
i wouldnt mind hearing it str8 from his mouth and be able to ask questions....subpennyradio would be an excellent way to let us know whats up...
Trade- I love it when RPH is spilling beans on SPR for hours on end.
Unfortunatley we have so many loose cats and dogs out there we need some solid filings and PR's (address default judgement etc.).
Without them our investment will remain the same if not get worse.
Posted by GreenDay on :
Thanks Dollar - I did read all that on Friday and I just read it again (thanks for the link). It just doesn't mean anything in plain English to me. I mean does it hault trading again at some point, does the company just pay a fine, etc??
Posted by wallymac on :
I completely agree with Betting Babe.
Now since it seems that Rufus wants shareholders to run the company I will give my todo list and the order they should follow. This is My personal Opinion only.
1) Hire an attorney that specializes in SEC arena to answer the motions that are presently being fought in court.
2) Cooperate fully with the SEC to put an end to the investigation, so that the company can move forward.
3) Hire and put people in place that will move the company forward. Whether these people are Ben, Sabra and company or new people who have the expertise and EXPERIENCE dealing with a public company and in the arena of working with Bonds and funding new operations. Just get it done. I prefer having people that have the experience.
4) Do what is neccessary to get MM's signed not just lined up, so that the stock can begin trading again. Whether it's Pinksheets, OTCBB doesn't matter. What matters is that the stock is being quoted. Moving to another trading platform can always be accomplished at some future date.
5) Hypothocate the bonds and begin funding the JV's and Subs. This is what will mae or break this company. Once the Subs and JV's are funded and begin functioning, it will be hard for anyone to call it a scam.
To sum up, It's time for ACTION not lip service. Rufus needs to take the reins or hand them over to someone who is able to take charge and deal with the real issues of the company. Once again in my opinion, A shareholder committee will not move the company forward. Strong action by the CEO and BOD is what will.
GLTA Wally
Posted by highhopes on :
Who is currently on the Board?
Posted by GreenDay on :
Well said wally!
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: tampa won.
I think we had a five share bet. Pay up
Posted by GreenDay on :
Highhopes - I think just dogmando at the moment, he said they will announce the others shortly that will serve a temp 30 days
Posted by a surfer on :
I just got here High hopes..
Or did you mean romeo vinditti and rufus.. LOL
The board of 2
Posted by highhopes on :
No I think that is the shareholders committee. Wally mentioned strong action by the BOD and I realized I do not know who is on the board with all the recent changes.
Posted by 3403 on :
A couple pages back the post was that Rufus was with them two hours on the phone, now it's one.
Posted by highhopes on :
Thats my point. Like it or not the resources are pretty thin so things are going to take a little longer. Just the reality. Hopefully if we can get through this current crisis Rufus will be able to bring on more help. In the interim, I think some of the requests are not very realistic.
Posted by a surfer on :
dallas beat the colts too.
Wally the funny thing about the hiring situation is the fact that they were willing to pay some fairly healthy figures to Sabra and Mitch and the others along with some perks too.
If that is still in the budget it would seemingly be easy to find some decent help.
350k is a quality salary.
Posted by highhopes on :
I agree but it takes some time to bring someone in and right now all time must be focused on getting through this SEC issue. Not sure what happened with Sabra or any of the others but they are not there now so we have what we have.
Posted by Igor R on :
Are we still "expecting" or maybe "getting" a 10q tomorrow?
Posted by 3403 on :
There are variations to the Short and Distort scam. A promoter of a worthless stock could artificially inflate a stock price of a thinly traded stock and then promote the stock and sell short. Then without news the stock would drop back down to original levels at which point, the promoter covers his position at a profit.
The promoter could Pump and Dump and then Short and Distort and every year continue the cycle.
The underlying theme is stock manipulation by a person who is ultimately trying to make money off the backs of unsuspecting investors.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Here is the latest film of our board. Can you pick out rufus?
baer-pepsi-2.mpe
Posted by wv1973 on :
This was on the website after the pr on emergency shareholder meeting was released. Don't you love being on committees and not being allowed to participate.
We're in the process of making changes to the CSHD Shareholder Committee webpage. To assist CSHC with the upcoming shareholder vote, we will be requiring individuals to submit pertinent information (name, contact information, number of shares, etc.) on this website. ALL information entered will be kept strictly confidential.
ONLY CSHD shareholders of record will be allowed to register. If you're a member of a group that has purchased CSHD stock, the respective group will be responsible for electing 1 member to enter the information and act as a proxy for the group.
If you have not already registered to be part of the CSHD Shareholder Committee, you will be automatically placed on the committee once you complete the form.
The registration webpage will be completed by Monday, November 20, 2006 at 8AM EST. Please check back then for further instructions.
Sincerely, James Gee CSHD Shareholder Committee Chairman
Posted by wv1973 on :
Here is the entire list of our directors and executives. Notice General Counsel is missing.
Rufus Paul Harris- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Romeo Vinditti - Executive Vice President of Global Investments
Posted by driver4t4 on :
not me, they are not getting any of my info.... I dont personally know those chosen few to lead the shareholders into battle..
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I've already sent an email demanding that my information be removed from their system.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: not me, they are not getting any of my info.... I dont personally know those chosen few to lead the shareholders into battle..
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Thank God...Wally is back...welcome sir. Another voice of reason. Just popping in to say "hello" to all longs...hang in there and hang tough. We will win. Just like the Cowboys...j/k. Gotta go get the kids down...pray for me.
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: I completely agree with Betting Babe.
Now since it seems that Rufus wants shareholders to run the company I will give my todo list and the order they should follow. This is My personal Opinion only.
1) Hire an attorney that specializes in SEC arena to answer the motions that are presently being fought in court.
2) Cooperate fully with the SEC to put an end to the investigation, so that the company can move forward.
3) Hire and put people in place that will move the company forward. Whether these people are Ben, Sabra and company or new people who have the expertise and EXPERIENCE dealing with a public company and in the arena of working with Bonds and funding new operations. Just get it done. I prefer having people that have the experience.
4) Do what is neccessary to get MM's signed not just lined up, so that the stock can begin trading again. Whether it's Pinksheets, OTCBB doesn't matter. What matters is that the stock is being quoted. Moving to another trading platform can always be accomplished at some future date.
5) Hypothocate the bonds and begin funding the JV's and Subs. This is what will mae or break this company. Once the Subs and JV's are funded and begin functioning, it will be hard for anyone to call it a scam.
To sum up, It's time for ACTION not lip service. Rufus needs to take the reins or hand them over to someone who is able to take charge and deal with the real issues of the company. Once again in my opinion, A shareholder committee will not move the company forward. Strong action by the CEO and BOD is what will.
GLTA Wally
Posted by unclerudy on :
Wow... I have been gone all weekend, and I come back to 37 pages of useless speculation, inappropriate jokes, insipid banter, pointless pictures, and not a single bit of usefull information. I believe that there is an off topic section of this forum, and it should be used. I also think that EVERY SINGLE PERSON SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO THE BASHERS. Once those 2 things happen, this will be nice and short and sweet. I also hate that people feel that any knowledge that they get is meant only for certain people, and not the general readership of the board. I bet there are a lot of lurkers here, who read what is put out and try to make their own discisions after investigating any info. The whole point of this board to disseminate information so that everyone can make informed decisions on how to make money. So lets everyone try and make money, because it was painful trying to skim all of the pages I missed so that I could find any tidbit of usefull DD.
/rant off
Posted by trade04 on :
quote: I love it when RPH is spilling beans on SPR for hours on end.
Unfortunatley we have so many loose cats and dogs out there we need some solid filings and PR's (address default judgement etc.).
Without them our investment will remain the same if not get worse.
dude the filings ok...but the prs are nothing but solid..I just want to make it clear that I myself prefer SPR + rufus over any pr...prs leave to much room for interpretation and speculation imo
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Wow... I have been gone all weekend, and I come back to 37 pages of useless speculation, inappropriate jokes, insipid banter, pointless pictures, and not a single bit of usefull information. I believe that there is an off topic section of this forum, and it should be used. I also think that EVERY SINGLE PERSON SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO THE BASHERS. Once those 2 things happen, this will be nice and short and sweet. I also hate that people feel that any knowledge that they get is meant only for certain people, and not the general readership of the board. I bet there are a lot of lurkers here, who read what is put out and try to make their own discisions after investigating any info. The whole point of this board to disseminate information so that everyone can make informed decisions on how to make money. So lets everyone try and make money, because it was painful trying to skim all of the pages I missed so that I could find any tidbit of usefull DD.
/rant off
oh im so sorry we didnt get your dd done for you please forgive us...everyone apologize to uncle rudy....lmao
Posted by wv1973 on :
Not if the PRs are written by professionals.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Yeah ST. Matt, i am a leeds fan for my sins!
Posted by St. Matthew on :
That goes for you too BB...We have missed you and your DD. I agree with what you and Wally are saying tonight. This committee is starting to sound like a fraternity. They are giving the impression that the more shares you have and the longer you have held them...you are more deserving of imformation. This concerns me. I could be wrong. I hope that I am. I am also hoping they get this worked out sooner than later.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i haven't been here much. hasn't been much concrete info to discuss, and it appears to me that is the way that rufus likes it.
lotsa propoganda, no company revenue.
lotsa legal wrangling and ego stroking, no forward movement.
but nothing bothers me more than "the committee".
i'll tell you one thing, the "committee owners" had better have some good liability insurance, collecting all that personal info on their website. and i expect to see some kind of disclaimer on there once the signup form is implemented. that's a lot of info to be responsible for; it's one thing to access a NOBO list and another to have all of the personal data to go with it. there's a reason that info is kept private. then again, rufus isn't 'officially involved' so the company would be clear. still, it's worrysome.
and to infer that not joining leaves you out in the cold? puhleeze. that'd be insider trading. public info is public info.
where are the reprocussions for all those people who didn't pull certs eh? and why exactly did i DTC my shares from TDAm to merrill? so i could look stupid when they hit a dime??!
most worrysome is this statement: Mr. Harris stated that the Shareholders Committee is very powerful and will be the backbone of the company. We will be able to basically appoint the people we want to lead the ship. I am very confident in our shareholder base, as I have met so many intelligent people since we started this journey. I ask that everyone pray for me and the board, as we do our best to do what is in the best interest of the shareholders of CSHD and for Mr. Harris as he leads us into battle.
the shareholders committee is the backbone of the company? shouldn't REVENUES be the backbone of the company??! SUBS? ASSETS??
appoint people to lead the ship? shouldnt that be the job of the CEO?!
pray for you? dude, i dont *pray* for my investments. chit man, i rarely pray period. i rely on good sound logic to make investment decisions... brain power over the-spirit-of-wall-street guidance. i'll leave prayer for religious ceremonies.
he's leading us into battle? tell ya what, why dont you lead us to the bank first, we'll purchase a nice arsenal with our earnings, and we'll be better equipped for the battle.
...after you figure out who's gonna be the friggin CEO, that is.
i don't see anyone accepting responsibility here. and that is... worrysome.
For your sins? Why do you say that...do they suk right now?
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Yeah ST. Matt, i am a leeds fan for my sins!
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Yeah bottom of the second division at the moment Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Wow... I have been gone all weekend, and I come back to 37 pages of useless speculation, inappropriate jokes, insipid banter, pointless pictures, and not a single bit of usefull information. I believe that there is an off topic section of this forum, and it should be used. I also think that EVERY SINGLE PERSON SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO THE BASHERS. Once those 2 things happen, this will be nice and short and sweet. I also hate that people feel that any knowledge that they get is meant only for certain people, and not the general readership of the board. I bet there are a lot of lurkers here, who read what is put out and try to make their own discisions after investigating any info. The whole point of this board to disseminate information so that everyone can make informed decisions on how to make money. So lets everyone try and make money, because it was painful trying to skim all of the pages I missed so that I could find any tidbit of usefull DD.
/rant off
oh im so sorry we didnt get your dd done for you please forgive us...everyone apologize to uncle rudy....lmao
No trade04, I just get upset that while we have nothing to talk about, we find things that should be said in other places to fill up this thread. I just wanted to communicate my distaste for off topic banter. A little is fine, but 37 pages of it crosses the line and makes Allstocks not as useful as it could be. We don't always have to be the top most active thread on this board. And I am contributing to the very phenomenon by saying these things.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
We (the Boys) have you visiting Big D this Thanksgiving...correct?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: tampa won.
Yesssssssss! Go Bucs
Can anyone explain what the court entry of default really means?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
OK...too many crickets in here...Good night all.
Let's hope tomorrow brings us everything we have waited so long for. Sleep tight and don't let the bedbugs (Bashers) bite.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
good to hear from you St Matt!
Posted by etouqe123 on :
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by trade04:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by unclerudy: Wow... I have been gone all weekend, and I come back to 37 pages of useless speculation, inappropriate jokes, insipid banter, pointless pictures, and not a single bit of usefull information. I believe that there is an off topic section of this forum, and it should be used. I also think that EVERY SINGLE PERSON SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO THE BASHERS. Once those 2 things happen, this will be nice and short and sweet. I also hate that people feel that any knowledge that they get is meant only for certain people, and not the general readership of the board. I bet there are a lot of lurkers here, who read what is put out and try to make their own discisions after investigating any info. The whole point of this board to disseminate information so that everyone can make informed decisions on how to make money. So lets everyone try and make money, because it was painful trying to skim all of the pages I missed so that I could find any tidbit of usefull DD.
/rant off
Unclerudy,
I'm sorry to hear you feel that way, but if you wanted to invest in a company where information is readily available, you should have invested in Microsoft.
Here at CHSD all our DD is speculation. Our hired officers history cannot be found anywhere. Our company PRs are sparce and often raise more questions than they answer and our CEO has no clue on how to execute a sound business strategy, but gosh darn he can talk up a storm. This is the way we like it here, so if you want something with more certainty then go buy a lottery ticket.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
theSource pay attention!!! etouqe123 is teaching you the proper way to bash a stock. Don't screw around with any fact. Just twist everything till people are debating the definition of the word "is". LOL!
Posted by TimW on :
Who else here is comforted by this statement in the PR:
"I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Well, I'll be up late to see if they release any of that important info...
Posted by frank021474 on :
Board- I was just as annoyed at the lack of information that has come out thus far (1045pm Sunday). I am not upset at the Saturday confrence call because I have a different interpretation of the PR than most. Some will pick this apart but hey- its just my opinion.
[A different point of view?]
They PR'd a shareholder committee meeting. Of which James is the appointed chairman (I know next question will be why him but lets stick to the topic of this PR).
The PR specifically stated:
[PASTE from PR] CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM. [END PASTE from PR]
So lets look at what the status of the shareholder committee was as of Friday-
James was appointed Chairmen and 100's of shareholders emailed in the shareholder information as requested. So far the committee consists of one appointed person and a bunch of shareholders that sent in the necessary information to be a part of it. Who at no point have been appointed or ever been a part of the committee. Since its still being formed. Those 100's of members will be a part of it as described once it’s a COMMITTEE.
Saturday comes around. Turns out the agenda for the confrence call was HOW to structure the shareholder committee. So having 100's of shareholders dial in was not the intent of the confrence call. It is intended to CREATE the shareholders committee.
At no point did the company or anyone indicate that the purpose of the emergency confrence call was to provide answers to the long awaited questions, solve the mystery of big foot or anything. It was merely to design the structure of the shareholder committee.
The chairmen assigned some shareholder representatives. They dialed in and assisted with the formation of the shareholder committee. How they came up with the names will also remain to be seen. But- they got heads together and started to hash out the shareholder committee. Keep in mind they are still building the shareholder committee. So far- its not complete. Nobody on the committee is left out- nobody that is a shareholder is missing out.
The confrence call goes on and they hammer out the structure and the details of the committee. James puts out a summary of what went on in the meeting. Nothing exciting, none of the answers a lot of you were hoping to see were in there but that wasn't the intent of the confrence call.
Do I think it could have been handled different? Sure. RPH could have just worked out the committee part with James directly and James could have arranged with some peer shareholders to help him in forming the structure of the committee. At least then we wouldn't have had this internet wide strike on everyone being left out of the loop.
I feel the same way everyone else does- I am waiting for the update from the company on current events. That has not taken place yet (It better soon).
Hearing something about 4 MM's from people posting on HSM and Allstocks is merely hearsay. It’s the same thing we have been going through with this stock for quite sometime.
The bottom line is the PR says nothing about EVERYONE dial into the CONF call and its going to be a COMPANY UPDATE. In fact the shareholder meeting is not until December 17th. There is a huge difference between the committee meeting (which isn't formed yet so its merely a few individuals building it) and a SHAREHOLDER meeting.
[PASTE from PR] KENNESAW, Ga., Nov. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces that an emergency shareholders meeting has been called and will be held in Washington, D.C. on December 17, 2006 (30 days from today). The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference. Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits. [END PASTE]
This is just my opinion so take it fwiw. I have read 100's of posts that the company lied and they are screwing you and whatever- that may be the case but it definitely was because of this stupid committee meeting. Perhaps they should have called it "Shareholder committee building team" or something. Then everyone wouldn't have been going bezerk (myself included).
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Who else here is comforted by this statement in the PR:
"I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."
Well hes got 68 minutes till monday lol. So, something better come quick.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Frank you get a gold star. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Who else here is comforted by this statement in the PR:
"I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."
Well hes got 68 minutes till monday lol. So, something better come quick.
Actually an 8K was filed updating the status of the CEO position... so technically he has provided more information as to the status of the company.
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Who else here is comforted by this statement in the PR:
"I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."
Well hes got 68 minutes till monday lol. So, something better come quick.
Actually an 8K was filed updating the status of the CEO position... so technically he has provided more information as to the status of the company.
I thought the 8K came out before the PR... if that is the case I don't believe it can count towards fulfilling the PR's statements.
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Who else here is comforted by this statement in the PR:
"I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend."
Well hes got 68 minutes till monday lol. So, something better come quick.
Actually an 8K was filed updating the status of the CEO position... so technically he has provided more information as to the status of the company.
True, but theres a lot more pertinent important information to be released imo.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I wish that were the case, but here is a quote from James Gee off the shareholder committee website:
"I would like to first apologize for the amount of time it took me to get this update out and for only allowing 20 people to be on the conference call. I will do my best to update you on the recent events and subject of the call"
Why is he apologizing for allowing only 20 people on the shareholder committee meeting if that was the intent all along?
Why do most of the people on HSM and this message board assume every shareholder surfs message boards for relevant company information?
Imagine you are a shareholder who does not listen to subpennyradio or surf message boards. You read a press release that states:
“CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM.”
So, you keep any eye out for a follow up PR, set aside personal plans on Saturday evening so you can be part of this emergency shareholder meeting. But, you don’t hear or see any updates.
To make matters worse, you read in Friday’s press release that the CEO says:
“I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend.”
Its 11:20 P.M EST so I guess there’s still a chance he can deliver on that promise.
I called the SEC last week for information and I have no problems calling them again on Monday for information. I will be asking them about Friday’s erroneous press release. I will also be asking them about the legitimacy of the formation of the shareholder committee.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Board- I was just as annoyed at the lack of information that has come out thus far (1045pm Sunday). I am not upset at the Saturday confrence call because I have a different interpretation of the PR than most. Some will pick this apart but hey- its just my opinion.
[A different point of view?]
They PR'd a shareholder committee meeting. Of which James is the appointed chairman (I know next question will be why him but lets stick to the topic of this PR).
The PR specifically stated:
[PASTE from PR] CSHD would also like to call an emergency meeting of the shareholders committee via teleconference November 18, 2006 at 5:00 PM. [END PASTE from PR]
So lets look at what the status of the shareholder committee was as of Friday-
James was appointed Chairmen and 100's of shareholders emailed in the shareholder information as requested. So far the committee consists of one appointed person and a bunch of shareholders that sent in the necessary information to be a part of it. Who at no point have been appointed or ever been a part of the committee. Since its still being formed. Those 100's of members will be a part of it as described once it’s a COMMITTEE.
Saturday comes around. Turns out the agenda for the confrence call was HOW to structure the shareholder committee. So having 100's of shareholders dial in was not the intent of the confrence call. It is intended to CREATE the shareholders committee.
At no point did the company or anyone indicate that the purpose of the emergency confrence call was to provide answers to the long awaited questions, solve the mystery of big foot or anything. It was merely to design the structure of the shareholder committee.
The chairmen assigned some shareholder representatives. They dialed in and assisted with the formation of the shareholder committee. How they came up with the names will also remain to be seen. But- they got heads together and started to hash out the shareholder committee. Keep in mind they are still building the shareholder committee. So far- its not complete. Nobody on the committee is left out- nobody that is a shareholder is missing out.
The confrence call goes on and they hammer out the structure and the details of the committee. James puts out a summary of what went on in the meeting. Nothing exciting, none of the answers a lot of you were hoping to see were in there but that wasn't the intent of the confrence call.
Do I think it could have been handled different? Sure. RPH could have just worked out the committee part with James directly and James could have arranged with some peer shareholders to help him in forming the structure of the committee. At least then we wouldn't have had this internet wide strike on everyone being left out of the loop.
I feel the same way everyone else does- I am waiting for the update from the company on current events. That has not taken place yet (It better soon).
Hearing something about 4 MM's from people posting on HSM and Allstocks is merely hearsay. It’s the same thing we have been going through with this stock for quite sometime.
The bottom line is the PR says nothing about EVERYONE dial into the CONF call and its going to be a COMPANY UPDATE. In fact the shareholder meeting is not until December 17th. There is a huge difference between the committee meeting (which isn't formed yet so its merely a few individuals building it) and a SHAREHOLDER meeting.
[PASTE from PR] KENNESAW, Ga., Nov. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces that an emergency shareholders meeting has been called and will be held in Washington, D.C. on December 17, 2006 (30 days from today). The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference. Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits. [END PASTE]
This is just my opinion so take it fwiw. I have read 100's of posts that the company lied and they are screwing you and whatever- that may be the case but it definitely was because of this stupid committee meeting. Perhaps they should have called it "Shareholder committee building team" or something. Then everyone wouldn't have been going bezerk (myself included).
Posted by driver4t4 on :
dont think we are gonna see any news tonight, hopefully we will by tomorrow night.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Seems like any lawyer could take any side on that matter TM. I am not arguing that I approve of how it was handled.
Merely providing another viewpoint. I think James Ghee's updates as well as others that were involved were definately NOT inline with what they should have been.
The problem I think was with the initial PR itself. Not necessarily illegal- just lacking the details and leaving a lot of room for assumptions (I was one of the ones thinking I was going to dial in as well).
If anything the PR should have been worded to indicate that the appointed chairmen of the committee will be having designated shareholders on the call to assist in the building of the committee.
It was far from defined enough for the shareholders to understand the intent, I agree.
Did they break the law? thats up for interpretation.
PR to update the shareholders on the status? Thats what I am waiting for! We are on the same page on that one.
Unless for some absurd reason the companies definition of "important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend.” is the shareholder committee itself. Perhaps those are the events?
Time will tell- until then as usual I wait
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
This whole thing has become quite a joke. Admit it guys.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: This whole thing has become quite a joke. Admit it guys.
it's not looking to good right now, there is too much negative IMO. I will wait for tomorrow, if we dont get anything I will sale 50 % of my holdings... and move on.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I see your point and I don’t think the PR was “illegal”. The problem is that it meets the qualification of being “erroneous” which would be in violation of the injunction.
I give up. My opinion doesn’t matter but I am concerned about how the SEC will view it.
It’s not wonder the bashers have a hay day with this stock. Could we make it any easier for them?
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Seems like any lawyer could take any side on that matter TM. I am not arguing that I approve of how it was handled.
Merely providing another viewpoint. I think James Ghee's updates as well as others that were involved were definately NOT inline with what they should have been.
The problem I think was with the initial PR itself. Not necessarily illegal- just lacking the details and leaving a lot of room for assumptions (I was one of the ones thinking I was going to dial in as well).
If anything the PR should have been worded to indicate that the appointed chairmen of the committee will be having designated shareholders on the call to assist in the building of the committee.
It was far from defined enough for the shareholders to understand the intent, I agree.
Did they break the law? thats up for interpretation.
PR to update the shareholders on the status? Thats what I am waiting for! We are on the same page on that one.
Unless for some absurd reason the companies definition of "important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend.” is the shareholder committee itself. Perhaps those are the events?
Time will tell- until then as usual I wait
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Seriously. I have a good amount of money invested in this company, and thought this was the real deal at one point. But no company that is truly legit runs around in circles with delay after delay, and more propaganda then I've ever heard. No Nasdaq big corporation runs around guarenteeing and talking on Subpenny Radio. He said we would hear an update this weekend, well we didn't. He didn't even have a lawyer with him and is now in default. What do shareholders care about? They care about the stock price. Look at where we are, slowly declining every day and now in the .20 range. Keep believing in this as it ends up in subpenny level. If the bonds were real and everything was easily verifiable Rufus should have stepped up to the plate and finished the deal with the SEC. It becomes quite evident that things arent going as planned, and will probably not turn out alright. Unfortunately, I wasn't very smart and invested hoping this would be the investment of a lifetime and change my life. But common sense says that a cast of shady businessmen who have never succeeded in their life, combined with outrageous claims, doesn't make this seems very legit.
Posted by frank021474 on :
[edit]I agree with your statements TM- I definately don't think your opinion doesn't matter. You provide a good objective view to this entire situation.
If we all just sat around and dreamed about millions we would be worse off.
I do say we need some filings and some real infomration put out. To many cats and dogs loose in this company to not share your concern.
despite the posts about the MM's and the lawyers or whatever I think we are in the same boat as last week- we have a default judgement that NEEDS to be addressed as well as some SEC filings due! Nothing else has been put out officially.
See everyone tomorrow! TM- I hope you stick around. Your insight does matter!
Posted by etouqe123 on :
TexasMoney,
You bring up a valid point in that Rufus assumes that all shareholders are regular SPR listeners or HSM/Allstocks readers. Do you really think institutional investors want to get there info from Jesuspower or Dogmando.
This all goes back to the root problem of the company, not informing shareholders through conventional ways (PRs). I couldnt even begin to imagine what I would think was going on with this company had it not been for the message boards, because he simply does not release enough PRs to keep us informed. So we have to go on SPR or message boards and try to connect the dots. The ironic part of it all is that Rufus thinks hes doing us a favor by going on SPR or HSM as opposed to releasing PRs.
Posted by betting babe on :
yes frank, the opinions of EVERY investor do matter. they dictate the pps on a daily basis at this point.
~BB
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Alright... I stayed up last night like many here and I finally went to sleep before anything big came out. I'm sure everyone has already read Dogs comments about the 4 MM's etc. I guess I was hoping for some more info then we have at present. I also feel "out of the loop" here and want answers. Answers that I would like are those that would have been answered in reasponse to the Shareholders letter which was quite satisfactory and posted on Spin offz. com I have recieved very little info (pretty much none LOL) from any shareholder that I believe might have been at the meeting. I did however talk with Tanks via PM and he said "we will be ok they are trying to put things together plz let allstocks know" "Dog will update and he is working hard for us all" That is all Tanks would really tell me... I joked about using the word "soon" and his reply was "LOL" LOL:) my feeling are that of frustration and anticipation. COuld things have been done better in the whole senerio of CSHD... yuppers. But we are dealing with what is before us. There are factors that most of us know nothing about, me included. THerefore I am trusting the powers that be to act for our benifit. I hope for something SOON... LOL but seriously... this is Thanksgiving week... let's think rationaly here... we have a computer, we are richer than most the people in this world... Happy Early Thanksgiving! And thanyou for all the FACTUAL DD here on this board (that does not include everyone btw). Ima watching and waiting
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
well that is to bad, guess no one can have an opinion over there, it's this crap that makes it look like a cult, but actually it's nothing more but an investment..
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
and apparantly your working on getting banned from ihub as well (or at least cindy thinks so)haha
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
well that is to bad, guess no one can have an opinion over there, it's this crap that makes it look like a cult, but actually it's nothing more but an investment..
its like an internal corruption of CSHD share holders...theres leaks of the same type of people through all boards, specifically the ones i watch which are ihub allstocks and hsm...think about it more as the product(sentiment) and not the reactant (management)
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
well that is to bad, guess no one can have an opinion over there, it's this crap that makes it look like a cult, but actually it's nothing more but an investment..
its like an internal corruption of CSHD share holders...theres leaks of the same type of people through all boards, specifically the ones i watch which are ihub allstocks and hsm...think about it more as the product(sentiment) and not the reactant (management)
I just hope this can be a regular stock again, lots of pretend cheifs in this one, and their attitudes are proving it, if they keep this up, in the end they will be the only shareholders, after all they are telling everyone to sell, jeeesh, no wonder our pps has gone down, it's like it is no longer about what we have here but who gets information and who dont, guess we should kiss the appointed shareholder committee's butt, be their buddies to get the info, hope rufus knows what he did here...
Posted by trade04 on :
no need for that driver! just wear blinders and read hsm..eventually youll be contacted by the committee and finally be "in the know" as rufus says ahahahah...
the committee is bs only half the people got replies from dogman...I havent heard/seen any transcript from the "insider" meeting...
like CEO like Committee...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I just got banned on HSM again for saying nothing wrong. It is pump nation over there...
and apparantly your working on getting banned from ihub as well (or at least cindy thinks so)haha
I dont post on ihub?
Posted by trade04 on :
sorry, then i dont know what this is about..it didnt sound like something to be banned for thats why i said apparantly cindy thinks so
Posted by: cindyyoohoo In reply to: cindyyoohoo who wrote msg# 133637 Date:11/20/2006 12:28:35 AM Post #of 133685
Banned another.... Originally Posted by stocktrader22 Your arguement is almost valid, but I'm not whining because I was prepared to lose all. I can't stand reading this board with all of you putting blinders on thinking this will all be resolved in a weeks time and we will be back up in the dollar range in no time. The truth is that this company may never see a $1 again, and with the way things are going, thats what it looks like.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: sorry, then i dont know what this is about..it didnt sound like something to be banned for thats why i said apparantly cindy thinks so
Posted by: cindyyoohoo In reply to: cindyyoohoo who wrote msg# 133637 Date:11/20/2006 12:28:35 AM Post #of 133685
Banned another.... Originally Posted by stocktrader22 Your arguement is almost valid, but I'm not whining because I was prepared to lose all. I can't stand reading this board with all of you putting blinders on thinking this will all be resolved in a weeks time and we will be back up in the dollar range in no time. The truth is that this company may never see a $1 again, and with the way things are going, thats what it looks like.
I read that at hsm...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Yup thats HSM, i dont touch investorshub, and I'm really disliking how they banned me twice for no reason there.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
proof that cindyoohoo is reading hsm too. LOL
Posted by driver4t4 on :
investor hub is bashing alley, and hsm is a cult with a bunch of more important investors than us... LOL, i guess this sucks..
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I dont think anyone can be considered bashing anymore lol...people have plenty to complain about.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: investor hub is bashing alley, and hsm is a cult with a bunch of more important investors than us... LOL, i guess this sucks..
Lol Ihub is the slums...HSM is like u said a cult, and allstocks Is the county park lmao...
Posted by a surfer on :
I called the SEC last week for information and I have no problems calling them again on Monday for information. I will be asking them about Friday’s erroneous press release. I will also be asking them about the legitimacy of the formation of the shareholder committee. Above by Texas Money....
Sounds to me like you have an agenda.
Are these calls out of curiosity or are you Timothy Miles little Elf.
My point being there is no need to bring extra attention to the situation unless thats your goal.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
Let me say this I know we all want info in real time but the shareholder committee was formed in order to help shareholders and the same shareholders they look to protect are the main shareholders that work against it. Sometimes the shareholders really amaze me. People you can rest assured that James Gee is working very hard for us all so in my opinion we can atleast give him time to see exactly what he is planning for us all without jumping to any conclusions. Key words Shareholder Committee.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
Just remember if you are not part of the solution to help our company and our investment which we have done great dd on then we are part of the problem.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
GOOD MORNING LONGS!!!
BASHERS AND NAYSAYERS I FEEL A CHANGE COMING IN THE WEATHER. FEELS LIKE IT COULD BE A STORM!!
A FEW QUOTES RELEVANT TO TODAY:
How beautiful a day can be When kindness touches it! ~George Elliston
If you haven't any charity in your heart, you have the worst kind of heart trouble. ~Bob Hope
Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up. ~Jesse Jackson
Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if they were going to be dead by midnight. Extend to them all the care, kindness and understanding you can muster, and do it with no thought of any reward. Your life will never be the same again. ~Og Mandino
Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness. - George Santayana Norman Vincent Peale
Believe it is possible to solve your problem. Tremendous things happen to the believer. So believe the answer will come. It will.
GLTA Posted by frank021474 on :
Morning tanks! Morning all!
I think everyone is just getting antsy in our pantsy! When you have tens of thousands of shares of a company with so many cats and dogs loose you wind up concerning yourself with evertime the clock ticks.
Look forward to what today brings!
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
morning
Posted by luvforever on :
Quote: Originally Posted by Mighty Max Wow! Good peeps are getting banned because they are voicing thier opinions and frustrations! OOOch, when cshd and rufus and the committee(shareholders) are saying things and then we expect it to happen even though it doesn't happen when they say it will....Maybe they should be banned instead of the good and long shareholders! LOL What's next? j/k I for one am a long shareholder but am holding till the end so if the company wants my last penny....ummm welll they must need it more than me, if so I hope they enjoyed it at my expense...In that case in advance merry christmas cshd! If that is false, I hope ,then that I have an even merrier christmas! I just think peeps need to let peeps be upset if they are, and understand where they are coming from, especially if they are a shareholder. I mean they want to know what is going on and have a legal right. I believe that is what these boards are for etc. Just be mature about it, without name calling and cursing etc. But to get banned for voicing concerns or saying something about cshd because of aggrevation and frustration shouldn't get you kicked off when others use vulgarity in pictures and say ranchy stuff about off topic stuff? Does that seem right? Hmm why are we all here? For cshd so let's try to keep with that and leave the ignorance of vulgarity and rudeness in your home not on the cshd board! Good luck truly to all the longs and even newcomers who have a stake in this gray stock cshd! I wish you all the best and a Happy Thanksgiving!
You can always elect to post at ibash if this forum doesn't suit your preferences for posting. By the way the company has sold no shares into the market during this time, so your theory of their enjoying your money at your expense is false.
have a good day, and dont forget ibash loves theories based on false statements like your own. __________________Guess they are getting as bad as ihub ~LOL
Posted by luvforever on :
Well eithe way Driver if they can't handle a little truth in how shareholdes feel then why do they come over here to dirty up our board? hmm? If we want to see what they have to say we go and look they don't have to dirty our board that's why we have a good board...We can voice our hurt and frustration then we move on without calling each other names and bashers! We are a great team here don't let the ignorant upset you. ~LOL Posted by Chart walker on :
Good Morning Board!
Well, let's hope they fulfill that extention, that's due today isn't it?...
Posted by luvforever on :
So did everyone register? My q is if we are on the nobo why register the company already has your name? Thanks Posted by luvforever on :
Okay ...group hug.... where's Jenna, mr.cat, matt, etc? Need the uplifting in a time of need...Need our cheerleaders I mean I am happy cowboys beat the colts Heehee gotta love it sorry just couldn't help it they won!
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: GOOD MORNING LONGS!!!
BASHERS AND NAYSAYERS I FEEL A CHANGE COMING IN THE WEATHER. FEELS LIKE IT COULD BE A STORM!!
A FEW QUOTES RELEVANT TO TODAY:
How beautiful a day can be When kindness touches it! ~George Elliston
If you haven't any charity in your heart, you have the worst kind of heart trouble. ~Bob Hope
Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up. ~Jesse Jackson
Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if they were going to be dead by midnight. Extend to them all the care, kindness and understanding you can muster, and do it with no thought of any reward. Your life will never be the same again. ~Og Mandino
Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness. - George Santayana Norman Vincent Peale
Believe it is possible to solve your problem. Tremendous things happen to the believer. So believe the answer will come. It will.
GLTA
Posted by wv1973 on :
Hey Tanks -- who is James Gee? What is his background? There are several James Gee that comes up on the google search. Is he one of them? Which one?
Posted by highhopes on :
Hi everyone. I am sure this has been asked a million times but it would be great if someone could help me out while we wait for news. I went to register and I do not hold my paper shares and therefore do not have certs. Bought on Oct 11 (yes...$2.51)with Vanguard. What was the latest version of the NOBO list? Any ideas on how I get cert numbers? Thanks and lets hope today is a great one.
Posted by thedoctor on :
Good morning everyone .... Is there a site to check if someone is on the shareholders list ? I see where you can sign up but I want to make sure that some people that I know are on before the cut off date.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I do have an agenda - IT'S CALLED GETTING INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF MESSAGE BOARDS AND SUBPENNYRADIO!
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: I called the SEC last week for information and I have no problems calling them again on Monday for information. I will be asking them about Friday’s erroneous press release. I will also be asking them about the legitimacy of the formation of the shareholder committee. Above by Texas Money....
Sounds to me like you have an agenda.
Are these calls out of curiosity or are you Timothy Miles little Elf.
My point being there is no need to bring extra attention to the situation unless thats your goal.
Posted by wv1973 on :
TM -- you know better than that. You can do DD, but only in approved DD areas. Isn't it nice to be called cute little names.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning all!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Morning new2
Posted by luvforever on :
Good Morning!!!!!! Can't wait to see the 10Q when it shows up! Posted by wv1973 on :
Okay anyone -- who is James Gee? What is his background? There are several James Gee that comes up on the google search. Is he one of them? Which one?
Posted by CRab on :
He is someone Rufus thought fit for that position. You aren't going to find anything on the man, much like people here wouldn't find much if anything on you. He is just a concerned shareholder, much like the rest of us with the free time to do what he's doing.
Don't take this as my thinking the SC is all it should be, I've been nervous about the format since it was first brought up.
Posted by Jenna on :
Chart - clean out your mailbox- you are full....
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
register on shareholders committee site.. use the "province" entry point for your 'zip code" until they change the input form for registration.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning everyne.
Posted by Jenna on :
Group hug, Luv.....
Posted by 6digits on :
A victory for Harris the pps just went to .21.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Chart - clean out your mailbox- you are full....
all better now ~ lol
Posted by betting babe on :
hi diggy. nice to have you around!!! Posted by 10of13 on :
Just curious? this shareholder committee? they are asking for alot of info...has the company "pr'd" that shareholders should sign up for this? Or is this only at the messageboards level?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
10Q or not to 10Q ? That is the question.
I would bet $1000 that we will not see a 10K or 10Q here today. I hope Rufus has a great Thanksgiving knowing that his antics have cost thousands of shareholders a big loss for the year.
After reading Friday's PR and about this 'shareholder committee' - which by the way is an absolute joke in the legitimate business world - I can only make one assumption.
In my opinion Rufus is totally insane.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Someone get out the hose and wash this thread down. It is a mess after the crap thrown around in here this weekend. Like a page out of the "Primate Home Journal" article, "You too can throw poop and make it stick."
I believe it was the March '05 Easter edition.
Morning...
Posted by luvforever on :
Posted by frank021474 on :
Morning Tax! Its a new day- new week- new year right around the corner.
Today should be interesting to say the least!
Posted by highhopes on :
Anyone able to help with my question about the Nobo list and the way to get certification numbers? Thanks
Posted by Jenna on :
Hey Port- if your out there - I have a question for you- I have already signed up for the Shareholders Comitee a while ago but do we all have to REDO it again?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Anyone able to help with my question about the Nobo list and the way to get certification numbers? Thanks
Sorry- I know nobody's been answering this question for you- but I think it's because noone knows the answer- Tax - do you know the answer to this one?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Jenna? It says on the registration page of the website for the commitee that you have to redo... I'm not sure why they need all that info...
Posted by SherriT on :
Good morning all...I need some kool-aid big time Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning Babe, I wondered where you were.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: hi diggy. nice to have you around!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Jenna? It says on the registration page of the website for the commitee that you have to redo... I'm not sure why they need all that info...
Thanks- I will redo- I think they need our address so they can send info about the Washington meeting....
Posted by luvforever on :
My best guess high is to call your broker and ask them or call the tda and tell them you want a number i am not sure if you must have certs in hand to have a number Hope that gets you started Posted by milliam on :
Good morning all. Hope everyone has a good one!
Posted by luvforever on :
Hey Jenna we were in your neck of woods last night went to red lobster LOL now we got snow! LOL Posted by Jenna on :
Luv- which RedLobster? Henrietta or Greece?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Hey BB nice to see your siggy on here again this weekend. Good posts... you have nailed my concerns regarding the "comittee". I have always said I want to wait and see how it develops before I consider joining.
Been busy this holiday shoot season?
Posted by luvforever on :
By toys are us I don't know my way around up there I think it's off off 390? I go 104 to get there! Posted by Jenna on :
That's Greece my hometown!!! Oh, well hopefully I go toward your way soon- I want to go to the Seneca Casino... How far are you from that?
Posted by CRab on :
Worthy of a bump in the sea of "stuff" from this weekend...
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i haven't been here much. hasn't been much concrete info to discuss, and it appears to me that is the way that rufus likes it.
lotsa propoganda, no company revenue.
lotsa legal wrangling and ego stroking, no forward movement.
but nothing bothers me more than "the committee".
i'll tell you one thing, the "committee owners" had better have some good liability insurance, collecting all that personal info on their website. and i expect to see some kind of disclaimer on there once the signup form is implemented. that's a lot of info to be responsible for; it's one thing to access a NOBO list and another to have all of the personal data to go with it. there's a reason that info is kept private. then again, rufus isn't 'officially involved' so the company would be clear. still, it's worrysome.
and to infer that not joining leaves you out in the cold? puhleeze. that'd be insider trading. public info is public info.
where are the reprocussions for all those people who didn't pull certs eh? and why exactly did i DTC my shares from TDAm to merrill? so i could look stupid when they hit a dime??!
most worrysome is this statement: Mr. Harris stated that the Shareholders Committee is very powerful and will be the backbone of the company. We will be able to basically appoint the people we want to lead the ship. I am very confident in our shareholder base, as I have met so many intelligent people since we started this journey. I ask that everyone pray for me and the board, as we do our best to do what is in the best interest of the shareholders of CSHD and for Mr. Harris as he leads us into battle.
the shareholders committee is the backbone of the company? shouldn't REVENUES be the backbone of the company??! SUBS? ASSETS??
appoint people to lead the ship? shouldnt that be the job of the CEO?!
pray for you? dude, i dont *pray* for my investments. chit man, i rarely pray period. i rely on good sound logic to make investment decisions... brain power over the-spirit-of-wall-street guidance. i'll leave prayer for religious ceremonies.
he's leading us into battle? tell ya what, why dont you lead us to the bank first, we'll purchase a nice arsenal with our earnings, and we'll be better equipped for the battle.
...after you figure out who's gonna be the friggin CEO, that is.
i don't see anyone accepting responsibility here. and that is... worrysome.
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Hey Jenna we were in your neck of woods last night went to red lobster LOL now we got snow! LOL
Shoulda gone to Nick's.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Looks like we have a boatload of market makers again. That is a victory in itself!
YeeHaw!
Posted by luvforever on :
What's nicks? I am just learning to get around up there..lol Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Looks like we have a boatload of market makers again. That is a victory in itself!
YeeHaw!
what market makers? my alphatrade real time L`2 show no MM quotes?
Posted by 6digits on :
The PR sounds like Rufus had a revelation of events not unlike that of the shareholders and has jumped on board with a large percentage of us. Whether we should call it a shareholder committee or not is up for discussion. Rufus Paul Harris, Chairman and CEO stated, "Very confusing events have taken place and I feel that it is necessary and very important to hold the annual meeting and discuss with every shareholder the forward movement of the corporation. I will be releasing important information about the corporation's current status and recent events over the weekend. Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Hey Jenna we were in your neck of woods last night went to red lobster LOL now we got snow! LOL
Shoulda gone to Nick's.
Nick Tahou's - you can smell the "garbage plate" from miles away.....
Posted by Jenna on :
Just curious - Has anybody heard of that kid "J-Mac"- he's the kid with autism that got put in the last few minutes of the last Basketball game of the year - his senior year & scored like 26 points in the last minute?
Posted by highhopes on :
Luvforever...thanks, I called Vanguard and one would think that I was the first person ever to ask about certification numbers and Nobo. Here is what I got:
1) Shares are held in such a way that getting certification numbers without ordering the paper shares is not possible. So essentially to get my certification numbers I have to take my shares out of the account in paper which personally I would rather not do! They absolutely assured me that if the company did any kind of stock split or redistribution of shares that my account would reflect that and they would take care of it for me.
2) They were stumped on Non Objecting Beneficial Ownner (NOBO). After being on hold for some period of time I was told that the default option is Non objecting. If I wanted to register the shares objecting (OBO), I would have told them that upfront. Apparently someone might do that to avoid getting marketing materials from the company.
So that is what I found out. Problem is I still do not know for sure I will show up on the CHSD list and definitely would prefer to keep my shares at the broker.
Hope this might help others with questions on this.
Posted by 6digits on :
The poor little guy forgot what the weekend is to boot. We haven't heard from him or the committee. The only word on anything has been second hand passed on from allegedly HSM? Our-street could have posted what he thought the meeting was about and people would have been none the wiser.
Posted by milliam on :
I do believe they were talking about getting a new NOBO list very soon, so maybe everyone will be able to check it before the shareholder committee sign up deadline.
BTW, what's up with the sign up deadline?
I, like many, have some questions about the shareholder committee...the privacy of it is a big thing, but I'd still like to know its real reason for existing. There's no way you have to be signed up to recieve info on the company...like info for the Dec. shareholders meeting. I guess I'll be searching for some info today.
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Looks like we have a boatload of market makers again. That is a victory in itself!
YeeHaw!
what market makers? my alphatrade real time L`2 show no MM quotes?
I hate to sound paranoid.... But why do MM,s always hide from only me?
Posted by 10of13 on :
As you can see, its the website for the tenet shareholders committee. Looks like they formed so they could fight Tenet and try to reform the management.
From this, I'm betting there's quite a few on here who'd want to join ours and try to reform Rufus .
Posted by Schwabie on :
FROM $4 TO 15 CENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Yes - that was a great story and he seems like a good kid.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Just curious - Has anybody heard of that kid "J-Mac"- he's the kid with autism that got put in the last few minutes of the last Basketball game of the year - his senior year & scored like 26 points in the last minute?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Okay anyone -- who is James Gee? What is his background? There are several James Gee that comes up on the google search. Is he one of them? Which one?
James Gee is a contractor that worked for Dave Perley some years back. From what I understand he has known at least a portion of the Fronthaul management team for quite some time. Its also my understanding that he purchased a very large amount of shares directly from the company and from the sounds of it holds these shares in paper form and to this day has not filed a 144 to release them.
This is my understanding of who James Gee is. Is it 100% accurate? Im not sure because i dont personally know him.
Anyway, good morning everyone! Im quite busy trying to finish up some things here at work before the Thanksgiving break so ill just be "lurking" Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: FROM $4 TO 15 CENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice.... the bashers of ALL bashers is here!
If you guys thought I was bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet. He is like "Scambusters Inc."
How ya doin' Schwabie?
Posted by betting babe on :
i gave my phone number to 4 people on this board and now i get stock pumps spammed on my phone so much im changing the number.
you think id give my personal info to some unknown database? i wont even give it to trusted websites! yes, wait and see is my approach here. i dont like the whole "you must listen to spr at midnight to know whats going on with this company" approach, which is why i stopped participating so much here. i'd like to see what the 'normal' investor is getting as far as public info.
that and i was in miami beach shooting a new tv commercial for south beach diet protein bars. new macy's commercial should start running during the parade this week... bizzy bizzzzzzy.
im thinkin we see no progress on CSHD til next year. holidays arent a time when stuff usually happens.
oh - and can i rehash this? waaaaaay back in that first conference call rufus said "i mean, if it takes 6 months..." and everyone went nuts so it was a quick backpedal & retract... ok, now, let's see... july... aug... sept... oct... nov... mmhmmm.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Hey BB nice to see your siggy on here again this weekend. Good posts... you have nailed my concerns regarding the "comittee". I have always said I want to wait and see how it develops before I consider joining.
Been busy this holiday shoot season?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Yes - that was a great story and he seems like a good kid.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Just curious - Has anybody heard of that kid "J-Mac"- he's the kid with autism that got put in the last few minutes of the last Basketball game of the year - his senior year & scored like 26 points in the last minute?
I was only bringing that up because that was my high school.....
sorry, I went way off topic there....Good Morning to you TM...
Disney contacted him there making a movie about him & Magic Johnson came to town he's going to direct it....
Posted by 6digits on :
milliam, do you have time to go talk to Fester I mean Rufus and see what he might have on his mind. I know the guy named James should be asking him where the weekend update or anything else Harris said might be at this time. It's starting to look like Rufus has the NSS right where they want him.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
it might be better to fax rufus, or it could be he is not allowed to talk to us and we should go thru james, who know's anymore.
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe, did you sign up for that government no call program that was started in 2004 or so. It helped a lot when I signed up for it.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Uh hem- Repo, Oh Repo. Did a Bearcat claw you this weekend???? If WV should have beaten Pitt by more points, how do you explain a loss to a team of less stature???? Need a lville loss, then Dec. 2 another Big East championship and BCS bowl bid for WV.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Looks like we have a boatload of market makers again. That is a victory in itself!
YeeHaw!
what market makers? my alphatrade real time L`2 show no MM quotes?
Arghhh! My mistake. Sorry. I just checked again and there are none so I must have been imagining.
Posted by betting babe on :
yes, and i dont get any calls. it wasnt until i responded to a few emails from my phone to this board that it started... the return email addy had my phone number in it. trust me, its a real bummer.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Babe, did you sign up for that government no call program that was started in 2004 or so. It helped a lot when I signed up for it.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Uh hem- Repo, Oh Repo. Did a Bearcat claw you this weekend???? If WV should have beaten Pitt by more points, how do you explain a loss to a team of less stature???? Need a lville loss, then Dec. 2 another Big East championship and BCS bowl bid for WV.
Yeah, that stunk... oh well, better luck next time for us. I just hope I don't see UO and UM again in the championship.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Uh hem- Repo, Oh Repo. Did a Bearcat claw you this weekend???? If WV should have beaten Pitt by more points, how do you explain a loss to a team of less stature???? Need a lville loss, then Dec. 2 another Big East championship and BCS bowl bid for WV.
Yeah, that stunk... oh well, better luck next time for us. I just hope I don't see UO and UM again in the championship.
Who? You mean Ohio State and Michigan? Sad, but that likely was the National Championship game. As much as I am NOT an Ohio State fan, they are the best this year...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Most won't like this..BUT? I agree here...I'm not worried so much about the pumped spammed stock stuff...but I know nothing about "these posters" background and I am suppose to give them my home address and personal info? Sorry...I have too many kids at home to take part in that part of this game...AND? this all seems to only be at the message board level at this time...It isn't something that the company has PR'd and Rufus said on the SPR interview that all that would be needed was name and email...they can check my name with the NOBO list...they don't need the other stuff...period..IMO..
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i gave my phone number to 4 people on this board and now i get stock pumps spammed on my phone so much im changing the number.
you think id give my personal info to some unknown database? i wont even give it to trusted websites! yes, wait and see is my approach here. i dont like the whole "you must listen to spr at midnight to know whats going on with this company" approach, which is why i stopped participating so much here. i'd like to see what the 'normal' investor is getting as far as public info.
that and i was in miami beach shooting a new tv commercial for south beach diet protein bars. new macy's commercial should start running during the parade this week... bizzy bizzzzzzy.
im thinkin we see no progress on CSHD til next year. holidays arent a time when stuff usually happens.
oh - and can i rehash this? waaaaaay back in that first conference call rufus said "i mean, if it takes 6 months..." and everyone went nuts so it was a quick backpedal & retract... ok, now, let's see... july... aug... sept... oct... nov... mmhmmm.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Hey BB nice to see your siggy on here again this weekend. Good posts... you have nailed my concerns regarding the "comittee". I have always said I want to wait and see how it develops before I consider joining.
Been busy this holiday shoot season?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Yes...that was phenomenal...why do you ask?
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Just curious - Has anybody heard of that kid "J-Mac"- he's the kid with autism that got put in the last few minutes of the last Basketball game of the year - his senior year & scored like 26 points in the last minute?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: FROM $4 TO 15 CENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back... where have you been? Coma?.. psych ward?.. Cave in the mountains of Pakistan? HA HA!! Posted by 6digits on :
Babe, I phone messaged you once or twice, but have no idea how that could have leaked out any of your personal info that would cause you to receive spam phone msgs.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: yes, and i dont get any calls. it wasnt until i responded to a few emails from my phone to this board that it started... the return email addy had my phone number in it. trust me, its a real bummer.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Babe, did you sign up for that government no call program that was started in 2004 or so. It helped a lot when I signed up for it.
Posted by betting babe on :
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Posted by Jenna on :
St. Matt I pm'ed you about that kid- ....
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Like I said we are on a slow downtrend to subpenny
Posted by TexasMoney on :
At which time “buy the crap out it” will take on a whole new connotation.
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Like I said we are on a slow downtrend to subpenny
Posted by djg7 on :
Printing .15 with gradual downward spiral. We should concentrate on getting off the grey shets. When can we expect the MMs to fall in place?
Posted by etouqe123 on :
"!!!"
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Printing .15 with gradual downward spiral. We should concentrate on getting off the grey shets. When can we expect the MMs to fall in place?
not any time soon, may never happen
Posted by Schwabie on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: FROM $4 TO 15 CENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice.... the bashers of ALL bashers is here!
If you guys thought I was bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet. He is like "Scambusters Inc."
How ya doin' Schwabie?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Welcome back... where have you been? Coma?.. psych ward?.. Cave in the mountains of Pakistan? HA HA!!
HI !
I THINK IT IS TIME FOR ME TO TAKE OVER THIS THREAD
LMAO
Posted by etouqe123 on :
quote:
What do you mean when will we get off the grays? Dont you know already? Rufus has 4 MMs hounding him, begging to be the first one the quote the stock. They are like the papparazi, hiding in the trees, jumping out of the bushes and bumping into him at the grocery store, they'll do anything to be the first MM to quote the company. 'Trust me' were golden.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Come on PR.................................. Posted by Jenna on :
Can anybody tell me what USSE is at - I don't want to look at my account- I'm afraid...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Hey frank - Don't forget "Wendy Whiner" from SNL to go along with your "Debbie Downer" pic.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Hey frank - Don't forget "Wendy Whiner" from SNL to go along with your "Debbie Downer" pic.
LOL- What a pair ***is this wv and jmoe***
jk wv
Posted by CRab on :
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I noticed they posted a new phone number on the website so I decided to call it (404-393-9824). It rolls directly into a generic unprofessional voicemail box.
Does anyone have the number to the lunar office?
Posted by Jenna on :
Yes - Frank & show us the picture of Kevin Bailey & Source....(Muppets in Balcony)
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Can anybody tell me what USSE is at - I don't want to look at my account- I'm afraid...
even at .40 on 721K volume tick is down. ( make that .405 - up tick )
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe your PM box is full.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Can anybody tell me what USSE is at - I don't want to look at my account- I'm afraid...
baselining at .40 - .405
Doesn't look bad.....
Posted by Jenna on :
MadMoney - you in on USSE too?
Posted by 6digits on :
Rufus is probably moon beaming us right now.
Posted by Jenna on :
Chart - I just thought it would be a little higher by now (USSE)- It's got a lot going for it...
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: MadMoney - you in on USSE too?
jenna - no just responding to your Q, GLTY!
Posted by TimW on :
Shoulda never thought of buying in with a CEO as a cowboy.. They are use to stepping in horse chit all day long.
Still no "update"...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: MadMoney - you in on USSE too?
jenna - no just responding to your Q, GLTY!
Oooh Thankx Mad....
Posted by 3403 on :
Schlesinger says classic con men, besides being psychopathic and greedy, are driven by a need to show the world how clever they are. "Their thinking is, 'Look at all these schmucks who actually go to work and earn so much less than I do. I get up at 11, work four hours a day, and make millions.' "
Their crimes are meticulously planned, and not just to elude law enforcement. "They have an overwhelming need to let others know how smart they are," says Schlesinger. "That's why they often leave notes and various clues behind."
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Chart - I just thought it would be a little higher by now (USSE)- It's got a lot going for it...
Keep your eye on it... Posted by jmoe20 on :
Chart Walker, we all know you are FOS and you own no shares in this stock. Stop playing it out like you are rooting for it, you could care less... Posted by TexasMoney on :
It appears to me that the short positions have successfully hypothecated.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: It appears to me that the short positions have successfully hypothecated.
Posted by Jenna on :
Source & Kevin Bailey.....
Posted by 6digits on :
I think Rufus owes us some info to get up to speed on stuff. If I was in his area I'd go tell him, **** the politically correct stuff. I'd probably restrain myself from doing what I think of doing to him.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Macy's on Turkey-day... looking forward to seeing you BB! That is parade day and Macy's is big time. Congrats.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
I wish we could short this thing. We'd be guarenteed to get it down to .01 and make millions!!!
Posted by Schwabie on :
CONVERSION SOL HLDGS (OTC BB:CSHD.OB) Delayed quote data
Last Trade: 1.99 Trade Time: Oct 23 Change: 0.00 (0.00%)
Posted by jmoe20 on :
BTW I enjoyed seeing someone create a login ID with my name in it!! That made my day that I got someone soooo mad that they had to create a username and try to talk chit about meee!! I love it, hope to see him in here sometime today for a good laugh Posted by 6digits on :
Ya that was a crackup. What a joker.
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: BTW I enjoyed seeing someone create a login ID with my name in it!! That made my day that I got someone soooo mad that they had to create a username and try to talk chit about meee!! I love it, hope to see him in here sometime today for a good laugh
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Chart Walker, we all know you are FOS and you own no shares in this stock. Stop playing it out like you are rooting for it, you could care less...
WTH?..
I AM in CSHD ~ Flipped it... In again. Own some even in a IRA account, PRAYING that the 6 for 1 is real, bet my two brass balls I have a ton more then you do.
If I wasn't in it, I'd say...
Right now I'm in CSHD, FRPT and APPI, just dumped PYPR last week...
-anything else you would like to know?...
Who's FOS now?...
You just down because of the PPS??? Chill... -wait for some news, that's all I can say, -or sell, but please no name calling...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Oh well looks like we got deceived
Posted by Schwabie on :
PRETTY EH ?
JUMPING ALL OVER...
LETS JUMP TO 10 CENTS ASAP !
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Posted by 6digits on :
The claims for what the shareholder committee can do sound bogus. It would appear that Rufus is already defying requests, such as the letter to enlighten us and run the company like a real one. That is if the James guy even had the nerve to send it to him. After all he was picked by Rufus, maybe just to be a yes man.
Posted by 3403 on :
Sometimes con men rely on naive individuals who put their confidence in get-rich-quick schemes, such as "too good to be true" investments. It may take years for the wider community to discover that such "investment" schemes are bogus, and usually it is too late, as many people have lost their life savings in something they have been confident of investing in.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I think everyone is down because of PPS...isnt' it clear that we got scammed? just my opinion, but as of right now it definitely looks like it. No 10Q eh?
Posted by Schwabie on :
I DONT GET IT... WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE LONGS ?
WHERE ARE THEY NOW ?
WASN'T EVERYBODY GOING TO RETIRE ON THIS ?
HMM, I THINK I MISSED THE BOAT..
IS IT TOO LATE TO GET IN ... ?
I'LL TRY $100 AT .10
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Does anyone have the direct phone line for the CFO, CIO, COO, VP of Human Resources, VP of Investor Relations, VP of Finance, General Counsel, or the janitor?
If not, as an alternative, I will take the phone number for Lunar Development, Mission Control, or Uranus Exploration.
I am trying to reach someone to see if I can have a do over.
Posted by Schwabie on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Does anyone have the direct phone line for the CFO, CIO, COO, VP of Human Resources, VP of Investor Relations, VP of Finance, General Counsel, or the janitor?
If not, as an alternative, I will take the phone number for Lunar Development, Mission Control, or Uranus Exploration.
I am trying to reach someone to see if I can have a do over.
I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG NUMBER...
THIS IS WHERE ALL CALLS SHOULD BE DIRECTED AS THIS SCAM IS ALMOST UP
I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
Posted by Schwabie on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
FROM $4 TO 20 CENTS...
ITS NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
FROM $4 TO 20 CENTS...
ITS NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...
What's with the caps lock? Are you yelling at someone?
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: I DONT GET IT... WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE LONGS ?
WHERE ARE THEY NOW ?
WASN'T EVERYBODY GOING TO RETIRE ON THIS ?
HMM, I THINK I MISSED THE BOAT..
IS IT TOO LATE TO GET IN ... ?
I'LL TRY $100 AT .10
At least one long is checking in this morning to a room full of negativity. If your emotions are driven by how many times someone peps you up then you will have many ulcers in penny land because the only people that you will find when there is no news are those who take pleasure in trying to make you feel bad about your decisions.
Just because you don't hear from all of the positive people still waiting out the details doesn't mean we have jumped ship. This is an investment, not a lifestyle. Take some time away from the negativity, be healthy, enjoy the holidays.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
FROM $4 TO 20 CENTS...
ITS NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...
What's with the caps lock? Are you yelling at someone?
bump
Posted by Schwabie on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
FROM $4 TO 20 CENTS...
ITS NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...
What's with the caps lock? Are you yelling at someone?
MY CAPSLOCK BUTTON BROKE JUST LIKE THIS STOCK DID
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I'm not at all happy with the current situation, but I have not given up hope either. Still long...
FROM $4 TO 20 CENTS...
ITS NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...
Actually, you always have a choice. I had a choice to sell near $4, but I didn't....I had a choice to sell almost daily around $1, but I didn't. For that matter, I can sell today for .20 a share if I want to, take the money, and invest it elsewhere, but I CHOOSE not to do it. I choose to continue to be long in this stock.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
Schwabie's like a pitbull! Get 'em Schwabie! [/QB]
lol yeah ok Posted by betting babe on :
Posted by betting babe on :
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe, thats very interesting. Did you know your mailbox is full?
Posted by 6digits on :
I guess Fester will show up on SPR tonight and talk **** to his buddy Simon. At least it saves him the trouble of sending out a PR to the faithful share holders that he wants to kiss his azz so much. Go to Washington. No you make me some MOFO money than we'll talk about Washington. He might not have noticed that plane tickets cost a lot more than the stock is worth.
Posted by Schwabie on :
LOL
CSHD -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. Com ($0.001) Primary Venue: Other OTC
TRADE DATA Best Bid: 0.00 Best Ask: 0.00 Last Sale: 0.19 Change: -0.03
Percent Change: -13.6364
Daily High: 0.28 Daily Low: 0.15
Opening Price: 0.21 Volume: 328,340 Annual High: 1.00 Annual Low: 0.0035 Dividend: 0.00 Earnings/Share: -0.11 Previous Close: 0.22 P/E ratio: N/A Yield: 0.00 Beta Coefficient: 0.61 Last Trade Date/Time: 11:59 Trade data is delayed at least 15 minutes. Best Bid and Ask reflect prices between 8:00am and 4:00pm EST, after these hours the best Bid and Ask at 4:15pm is shown.
Posted by Chart walker on :
I hate cleaning my computer screen, but there's so much CHIT on it today...
Posted by Chart walker on :
"gulp!"
Posted by frank021474 on :
gross jenna- its lunch time Posted by 6digits on :
I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
Were you on the right thread?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Is it legal to post copyrighted photos?
Posted by betting babe on :
no its not
fyi this is a reply to the below post:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits:
Posted by 6digits on :
I thought I was. Which one is the right one. I only saw one with the CSHD symbol.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
Were you on the right thread?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
-let's play connect the dots...
No one's talking about what was said on the phone with Rufus, in fact St.Matt found out (post above) that a gag order is in place for what WAS talked about...
We are due a filing (extention)... Wonder if it will be good?
To the "moonie" maybe Posted by new2stocks on :
It's the one that says "Rufus is Back"
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I thought I was. Which one is the right one. I only saw one with the CSHD symbol.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
Were you on the right thread?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Is it legal to post copyrighted photos?
Oh we don't care what you look like in the morning New2... lmao! ~~ Posted by frank021474 on :
chart you spilled the beans lol
Posted by Jenna on :
Yeah, Chart now there's beans all over the place!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Is it legal to post copyrighted photos?
Oh we don't care what you look like in the morning New2... lmao! ~~
Posted by brooklyn55 on :
Find it interesting that not one post from any of the 20 selected members of the Shareholder Committee with exception to jesuspower1). Me thinks it was agreed to not post until definitive releases are brought forward. I concur with that motion. ( whether bad or good)
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Is it legal to post copyrighted photos?
Uh, yeah it is. Why do you think they put COPYRIGHT across the picture??? SO YOU CAN'T USE IT COMMERCIALLY (but I can use it to mock you folks).
Posted by Chart walker on :
darn! I picked APPI and BANY would've been the big winner! agh ~
Should'a went half and half. -but I hate that "half-azz" stuff!" ha ha~
Imagine that CSHD is holding around .23
-where's the big sell off? ha!
I'm seeing a GAIN of 4.55% Wonder why that is?... Posted by new2stocks on :
Did I hear something? It sounded like Charlie Brown's teacher talking.....
Posted by 6digits on :
OK that one. I'll look.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: It's the one that says "Rufus is Back"
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I thought I was. Which one is the right one. I only saw one with the CSHD symbol.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
Were you on the right thread?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: chart you spilled the beans lol
I just couldn't help myself! Posted by Jenna on :
Chart, get out your crystal ball & tell us when we hear some news?
Posted by betting babe on :
diggy did u see this? its getting lost in the picturebook...
no its not
quote:Originally posted by 6digits:
Posted by 6digits on :
Only Mr. Dillon could put a gag order on it. Was it self imposed, lest the shareholder caste learn of it's contents.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
-let's play connect the dots...
No one's talking about what was said on the phone with Rufus, in fact St.Matt found out (post above) that a gag order is in place for what WAS talked about...
We are due a filing (extention)... Wonder if it will be good?
To the "moonie" maybe [/QUOTE]
Posted by TexasMoney on :
How in the hell did you get a picture of my wife?
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Repo, Arrested again...What did you do now?
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Only Mr. Dillon could put a gag order on it. Was it self imposed, lest the shareholder caste learn of it's contents.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I was on HSM a few minutes ago and I could'nt find anything about CSHD that was less than 3 days old. I wonder whats up with that. The only post said here today gone tomoonie!??
-let's play connect the dots...
No one's talking about what was said on the phone with Rufus, in fact St.Matt found out (post above) that a gag order is in place for what WAS talked about...
We are due a filing (extention)... Wonder if it will be good?
To the "moonie" maybe
[/QUOTE] IF there is a gag order on it, it probably means the SEC slapped RUFUS for violating the restraining order "if" there is a gag order. JMO.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
You guys went from being able to afford a lobster dinner, down to a steak dinner, downgraded to a mcchicken at mcdonalds, followed by SPAM, now we are right about at Raman Noodles... What's next on the list???
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Enters room:
'Takes a quick look round, hmmmmm bomb not dropped yet'
Leaves room.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Rice.
Posted by Chart walker on :
ouch.... BANY,... Come back!!! [tears, crying] -well can't catch them ALL...
"But you can TRY!!!" lol ~~~ Posted by madmoney on :
I hope the share holders commity has a good lawyer!
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ouch.... BANY,... Come back!!! [tears, crying] -well can't catch them ALL...
"But you can TRY!!!" lol ~~~
170% ... nice.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
So CSHD did file a NT-10Q and according to that under my understanding it is due today. Surprised there isnt more talk about it. I doubt its coming
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe whats happening to your posts, they all seem to be changing and disappearing? You have a PM.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Enters room:
'Takes a quick look round, hmmmmm bomb not dropped yet'
Leaves room.
LOL!!!! Now that's funny ~
Just doing a walk by myself ~ Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: So CSHD did file a NT-10Q and according to that under my understanding it is due today. Surprised there isnt more talk about it. I doubt its coming
Posted by 3403 on :
It seems as though every day we are waiting for something.... getting very old
Posted by jmoe20 on :
I wish I had sold my house and put it all into this play!! I'd be able to sell and buy a shed... Right about now Rufus is strumming his guitar, singing holaluuyaaaa i took all of your money holaluuyaaa... you believed i had 7 billion dollars of assests when i had 7 centsyaaaaaaa... I can't believe they actually thought the Town Farm, was my ranch with my horses, If only i could have told them my job at the ranch was to clean up there chit. I remember everyone fighting with me before saying how Rufus was smarter than all of us. My pre-schooled cousin could make better management decisions than this d bag....
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: I wish I had sold my house and put it all into this play!! I'd be able to sell and buy a shed... Right about now Rufus is strumming his guitar, singing holaluuyaaaa i took all of your money holaluuyaaa... you believed i had 7 billion dollars of assests when i had 7 centsyaaaaaaa... I can't believe they actually thought the Town Farm, was my ranch with my horses, If only i could have told them my job at the ranch was to clean up there chit. I remember everyone fighting with me before saying how Rufus was smarter than all of us. My pre-schooled cousin could make better management decisions than this d bag....
Posted by bigstocks on :
Hey Chart, I was in and out of APPI missed BANY as well.
Posted by Chart walker on :
jmoe20, it's about time you start throwing some humor in there! I was getting bored waiting reading your whinning...
Give it a week, then let's see how you feel this Friday
dang, BANY up 209% now...
Posted by 6digits on :
A gag order does'nt sound good. Fes likes to play with fire at others expense it would seem. So, more silence guaranteed I guess. It's hard to beleive that he wants to retire and raise a family and horses and stuff.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
In the absence of relevant DD today, has anyone seen a Phoenix in flight with a cobra in command?
Posted by 6digits on :
Thursday is Thanksgiving, is the market closed Friday?
Posted by 3403 on :
Well, it looks like I may be single soon. I have to explain to Anita why I invested our retirement funds into CSHD. "Honey you like your job, all this means is you don't have to quit when you're 65".
Posted by TexasMoney on :
The market will be open except for CSHD shareholders - we have no market yet!
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Thursday is Thanksgiving, is the market closed Friday?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Thursday is Thanksgiving, is the market closed Friday?
David, you didn't really want to go to college did you?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: You guys went from being able to afford a lobster dinner, down to a steak dinner, downgraded to a mcchicken at mcdonalds, followed by SPAM, now we are right about at Raman Noodles... What's next on the list???
Bubble gum machine?
Posted by 3403 on :
Wonder if Rufus will give me a job cleaning the stables?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
The world needs ditch diggers too - especially with immigration reform looming!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: David, you didn't really want to go to college did you?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Well, it looks like I may be single soon. I have to explain to Anita why I invested our retirement funds into CSHD. "Honey you like your job, all this means is you don't have to quit when you're 65".
ROTFLMAO!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Dog fart?
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: You guys went from being able to afford a lobster dinner, down to a steak dinner, downgraded to a mcchicken at mcdonalds, followed by SPAM, now we are right about at Raman Noodles... What's next on the list???
Bubble gum machine?
Posted by jmoe20 on :
You better hope the market is closed friday. I'm sure people don't want and extra day for this thing to go down another .05 cents.
Posted by 3403 on :
"Anita honey, we have had 15 good years what's a few bad ones?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: David, you didn't really want to go to college did you?
Tell me you're kidding ~
Pennys are for PLAY money... Stuff like that is for a mutual fund in a hot sector...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: In the absence of relevant DD today, has anyone seen a Phoenix in flight with a cobra in command?
I saw a phoenix fly by with a cobra in it's mouth......j/k
I love CSHD I gotta just keep repeating it... I love CSHD......
Posted by 3403 on :
Of course if CSHD pops I am leaving Anita and getting two 20 year olds........
Posted by TexasMoney on :
"I bought the crap out of it" and I got was this pretty sheet of paper! Posted by Repoman75 on :
Chart, check your PMs.
Posted by madmoney on :
printing .17!! will this never end? if RUFUS lied he should go to jail!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Of course if CSHD pops I am leaving Anita and getting two 20 year olds........
LMAO....by the way that's my mom's name....Are you my step dad? Daddy?
Posted by trade04 on :
All hell will break loose AGAIN if no 10q today...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: You better hope the market is closed friday. I'm sure people don't want and extra day for this thing to go down another .05 cents.
If the 10Q comes out today... I will be praying it goes down another 0.05, let's see what devine intervention will do.
If the 10Q doesn't come out today... well that would make a 0.05 drop look easy.
Either way I think you and I will get our wish. Posted by madmoney on :
it`s 1:18 do you know where your 10Q is?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Of course if CSHD pops I am leaving Anita and getting two 20 year olds........
Posted by 6digits on :
Thanks, stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Thursday is Thanksgiving, is the market closed Friday?
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: "I bought the crap out of it" and I got was this pretty sheet of paper!
Posted by Jenna on :
Well, I 'm leaving for a while- I'm going - I've got to go to work & revive a dead mummy & when I come back perhaps a bomb will have been dropped.........see ya.........(j/k)
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: "I bought the crap out of it" and I got was this pretty sheet of paper!
Nice- did they have to show you the dirty side after its used LOL
Posted by Chart walker on :
Post of the day BB! LMAO!!! Posted by Repoman75 on :
Well, I will say this... most of you have some pretty good spirits considering you invested in the worst POS scams in history... You must have switched from Kool Aid to the Egg nog!
Posted by 6digits on :
Correction; The previously refered to name of Fester should have read FESTUS.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I heard a rumor that the 10Q is going to have a new bond portfolio worth one billion gazillion bazillion pesos. We are then going to buy Mexico, trade it to the United Sates for ownership of the DTCC to rid the marketplace of naked short selling – “the short elimination”.
I don’t know about you, but I’ll all in. Praise Jesuspower1 and pass kool-aid!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Well, I will say this... most of you have some pretty good spirits considering you invested in the worst POS scams in history... You must have switched from Kool Aid to the Egg nog!
Once it gets to a certain level its the point of no return. Its money you should be able to afford to lose- the price of admission is better than pulling the $ out.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Well, I will say this... most of you have some pretty good spirits considering you invested in the worst POS scams in history... You must have switched from Kool Aid to the Egg nog!
Awww Repo - we didn't know you cared!
Still long and strong on the Kool-Aid (though it is possibly spiked with Everclear...)
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Of course if CSHD pops I am leaving Anita and getting two 20 year olds........
LMAO....by the way that's my mom's name....Are you my step dad? Daddy?
Who's YOUR DADDY?
Posted by Jenna on :
REPO- Did you buy in yet - You said when it hits .15 cents you would be a CSHD'er!!!!
Posted by 6digits on :
BB thats funny. And depressing at the same time.
Posted by Jenna on :
3403 - dirty doggy..........
Posted by wv1973 on :
posted November 20, 2006 13:14 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by TexasMoney: In the absence of relevant DD today, has anyone seen a Phoenix in flight with a cobra in command? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- originally posted by Jenna: I saw a phoenix fly by with a cobra in it's mouth......j/k
I love CSHD I gotta just keep repeating it... I love CSHD......
Jenna, you didn't seem the type to be in such an abusive relationship. Getting the crap knocked out of you doesn't fit.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: REPO- Did you buy in yet - You said when it hits .15 cents you would be a CSHD'er!!!!
That's true... but I have AMTD... so I can't. I would consider buying now for the dead cat bounce... it always comes.
Posted by 3403 on :
Sweetheart, you don't really want to keep your Grandmothers 2 carat wedding ring. She's dead isn't she?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: REPO- Did you buy in yet - You said when it hits .15 cents you would be a CSHD'er!!!!
That's true... but I have AMTD... so I can't. I would consider buying now for the dead cat bounce... it always comes.
The dead cat bounce LOL!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: REPO- Did you buy in yet - You said when it hits .15 cents you would be a CSHD'er!!!!
That's true... but I have AMTD... so I can't. I would consider buying now for the dead cat bounce... it always comes.
The dead cat bounce LOL!
-that IS what it's called btw Posted by djg7 on :
new2, best post of the day.
Posted by Jenna on :
WV - you're absolutely right - CSHD isthreateneing - One HIT & I'm out but not before I hit back!!! (it took me a few minutes to get that joke but I'm sure you're not surprised)
- I really am leaving this board soon - it's so addicting!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 3403 on :
Anita honey, you've got the suitcases out. Where are you going?
"I'm not going anywhere, YOU ARE!"
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: WV - you're absolutely right - CSHD threateneing - One HIT & I'm out but not before I hit back!!! (it took me a few minutes to get that joke but I'm sure you're not surprised)
- I really am leaving this board soon - it's so addicting!!!!!!!!!!
Is it my cool feathered hair and switchblade comb?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh Jenna don't go... don't let these ******* get under your skin.
Posted by Jenna on :
Tax- I miss you....Actually I'm having fun today but they asked me to see a few patients this evening....
Posted by Jenna on :
frank - I love your feathered hair & switchblade comb.....Do you like my Parachute pants that I got from "Merry-GO-Round"?
Posted by 6digits on :
Damn Festus do this at least for your mothers sake.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
45,000 * .14 ... The Phoenix is certainly on fire
Posted by Jenna on :
I think the Phoenix just crapped on SherriT's windshield.......
Posted by CRab on :
haha...wasn't there a gap around this area about six months ago...
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, it crashed and burned the cobras - we are so F&*KED without the cobras! ! !
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I think the Phoenix just crapped on SherriT's windshield.......
Posted by Jenna on :
I wonder where we would have been if this never happened with the SEC & on the 30th we would have gotten our 6:1..........
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
gotcha take care.
Posted by 3403 on :
Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Google doesn't even recognize that address... it brings up a vacant lot.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Google doesn't even recognize that address... it brings up a vacant lot.
Hhaha this is such a joke
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Google doesn't even recognize that address... it brings up a vacant lot.
mapquest
Posted by 6digits on :
I'm ready for plan B in a heartbeat, go private and buy back my shares and get it over with. How many times did Rufus say he would do that and that they had the funds? I know of a couple.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I think the Phoenix just crapped on SherriT's windshield.......
NICE Mental Picture (and memory!)
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Google doesn't even recognize that address... it brings up a vacant lot.
Ha ha, try again! Posted by Chart walker on :
Try google earth....
If that is the right address, (seen it already...)
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I wonder where we would have been if this never happened with the SEC & on the 30th we would have gotten our 6:1..........
Safe to say we all would have been a LOT happier....I, for one, would have the day off and be shopping today.
Posted by 3403 on :
Repo, I don't think it's a vacant lot. There is a fence around it and what looks to be a couple horses grazing.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Who wants to bet we don't see a 10Q? We are on the grey's so it isn't required. I'm surprised Rufus isnt out of the country yet.
Posted by 3403 on :
I know everyone did alot of DD before they got into CSHD, but did anyone check and see if there was really an office?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Type that into Google Maps... it gives an alternate address.
Posted by Chart walker on :
This putting out the PR's AFTER hours has got to stop...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Repo, I don't think it's a vacant lot. There is a fence around it and what looks to be a couple horses grazing.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Has anyone used mapquest and seen the aerial view of our corporate headquarters? I have...
What's the address?
125 town park drive #300 kennesaw, georgia 30144
Google doesn't even recognize that address... it brings up a vacant lot.
Google has quite a different story than mapquest...
Oops! There goes that dang DD again. Sorry I just looked at the thread hours and realized it is still "basher" time.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I know everyone did alot of DD before they got into CSHD, but did anyone check and see if there was really an office?
Yes. Two people living near the HQ have been there, seen the bldg. and verified it is the one on the website.
(Edit: I will be the very first to admit that the office doesn't mean squat though...I worked for a startup that had a super office, and barely got by for a long time FWIW)
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I know everyone did alot of DD before they got into CSHD, but did anyone check and see if there was really an office?
Yes. Two people living near the HQ have been there, seen the bldg. and verified it is the one on the website.
-right, Like I said old news...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
If you zoom close enough on Google Earth, you can confirm that there are horses there. Posted by frank021474 on :
LOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I just ate lunch dammmmmmit!
Posted by madmoney on :
this is from google ---------
Georgia, Kennesaw - TownPark Center (HQ Global)
125 TownPark Drive Suite 300 Kennesaw, 30144 UNITED STATES
Main Tel: 770 420 8200 Main Fax: 770 420 8201 Sales Hotline: +1 800 956 9543
Centre Information Map & Directions Bookings & Enquiries
Local Amenities Neighbouring Centres Centre Photos
Description View the description in local language The TownPark Center is a beautiful 4-story building overlooking a wooded courtyard with a park-like atmosphere. Its combination of nearby residential and commercial developments, prime location, 24-hour access and ample parking makes this center an excellent place to locate your business. Complete with floor-to-ceiling windows, the TownPark Center offers a variety of offices and suites to suit all your expanding business needs. A well-appointed reception area, top-of-the-line equipment including videoconferencing and a friendly, professional staff are just a few of the services you will enjoy as a client. The center has two meeting rooms which can accommodate up to 14.
Other advantages include a community that is booming with new office developments and close proximity to nearby hotels such as The Residence Inn by Marriott and the Fairfield Inn. The Olive Garden, Red Lobster, O'Charley's and many other restaurants are one exit away. Upscale shopping is located nearby at the Town Center Mall.
Profile 24 hour access Temp control Voicemail Lounge area Elevator Parking Meeting Rooms Business park location Disabled facilities 24 hour CCTV monitoring Gym and fitness room Videoconferencing studio Outside Seating Area / Terrace Smoking Areas Vending Machines On-Site Lunch Restaurant
Local Time: 20 Nov, 14:17:19
Opening Days: M, Tu, W, Th, F
As a global network associate of Regus, HQ Global Workplaces offer the same world class facilities, technology and services to assure you of a professional working environment.
it is an office condo, call reception and ask about our tennant, conversion solutions.
Posted by Chart walker on :
stocktrader2006!!! ha!!
-Holy chit that's a good one! lol ~~~
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: If you zoom close enough on Google Earth, you can confirm that there are horses there.
LMAO
Posted by wv1973 on :
Has someone called the leasing office to see if the company has office space there????
Posted by 3403 on :
Chart, we're not bashing just having fun with our money...........
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Has someone called the leasing office to see if the company has office space there????
yes 3 months ago... wish you were here to think of that then. HA!
Posted by wv1973 on :
Please let me rephrase. My bad. Has anyone called to leasing office to see the company STILL HAS office spaced leased?
Posted by Chart walker on :
I'm laughing my azz off! lol ~
-helps the pain go away! ha ~
Maybe that PR is coming out, up 13% now...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Please let me rephrase. My bad. Has anyone called to leasing office to see the company STILL HAS office spaced leased?
Who knows- considering they moved the office to Tex you never know what the plans were for the Ga location. I didnt see in the 8k the moved the corp back to Ga.....
You can speculate its there- or you can speculate its not. Either way we sit and wait for filings and PR's to tell us the answers.
Even if you went and stuck your face on the glass and didn't see anything- means nothing unless you can verify what the original plan was behind moving the company to TX.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Is this that "puppy pounce" that Repo mentioned? it would have been a nice flip...
Posted by TexasMoney on :
To the moon! Literally!
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: I'm laughing my azz off! lol ~
-helps the pain go away! ha ~
Maybe that PR is coming out, up 13% now...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Is this that "puppy pounce" that Repo mentioned? it would have been a nice flip...
Are you telling me you never heard of a "dead cat bounce"???
Please don't tell me you are investing with REAL money and don't know basic T/A terms... please...
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: I'm laughing my azz off! lol ~
-helps the pain go away! ha ~
Maybe that PR is coming out, up 13% now...
I hope not- my wire xfer isn't into my etrade cash account yet. Wanted to pick up some cheapies today!
I hate that they changed it- you used to be able to do "quick transfer" and it was instantaneous but not they make it avail 5th business day. They should rename it from Quick Transfer!
Posted by 10of13 on :
I was joking Repo... Posted by 6digits on :
Rufus told his buddy Simon that he usually works from his horse stables. Look at the picture closely, you can see him waving from under the pile.
Posted by 3403 on :
Does anyone have the address of Rufus' ranch? I want to look it up on the county tax records and find out its value and ownership.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Won't do you any good Frank. A man of Rufus' stature has either leased the property or has it hidden away in a private, double secret probation trust. Just like Bill Gates.
Posted by jmoe20 on :
Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Won't do you any good Frank. A man of Rufus' stature has either leased the property or has it hidden away in a private, double secret probation trust. Just like Bill Gates.
He does... Talked about that trust a couple days ago....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Well prepare to get sick then... me too.
Posted by Igor R on :
Why is that when a trade of 0 shares go through the volume goes down? I looked earlier and my level 2 said volume was 7xxK something. And now its 693K.
Posted by 6digits on :
So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance? After telling everybody to buy the **** out of this, he turns around and makes it look totally discouraging.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Well prepare to get sick then... me too.
Posted by 3403 on :
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Posted by 6digits on :
Even if festus does'nt haver to file the 10Q right now, what could he have to lose by doing so if it's ready.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
at these prices the risk vs reward is worth it. Chit- all I need is one long drawn out SPR interview and I can double or triple what I scrape the bottom of the barrel with today.
Either way- its been a long fun ride.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Well I'm back . Looks like some one cried to the mods about me and was banned for a little while .
No new news I see ........
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Who is "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance? After telling everybody to buy the **** out of this, he turns around and makes it look totally discouraging.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Well prepare to get sick then... me too.
Posted by 6digits on :
Thers another trick to. Tell people your buying and sell when they jump in. Not a dead cat bounce, but still a sucker play none the less.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Well I'm back . Looks like some one cried to the mods about me and was banned for a little while .
No new news I see ........
Like starving hyenas, the pack turns on itself!
Posted by 6digits on :
You taxman whats your chance with this?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Who is "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance? After telling everybody to buy the **** out of this, he turns around and makes it look totally discouraging.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Well prepare to get sick then... me too.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Here is a frightening excerpt from Friday’s press release:
'I know the storm is strong and we may suffer some damage but we will still be standing strong at the end. I have worked long and hard to form and build this corporation, and I will not stand by and let illegal market activities prevent us from our goals. Our corporation is the model corporation and will be the beginning of a new market place. Be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too. I would also like to thank each and every one of you for your prayers in these trying times, and may GOD bless each of you.'
When he says “we may suffer some damage” it concerns me that he uses the future tense. Any further damage and I’ll need to get my proctologist to extract his Georgia cowboy boot out of my ass.
How is it that “our corporate is the model corporation”? Well, I guess we are the model of what not to do (e.g. erroneous press release, contempt of a Federal Judge, default judgment).
What kind of paranoia weed is he smoking to say “be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too.”
I feel violated and don't recall the details. Perhaps Rufus has slipped me a “roofie”? Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Well I'm back . Looks like some one cried to the mods about me and was banned for a little while .
No new news I see ........
Like starving hyenas, the pack turns on itself!
I've been ridiculed, lectured, called names, banned, lost my wife, my retirement and son's college funds. That is in just one month.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Thers another trick to. Tell people your buying and sell when they jump in. Not a dead cat bounce, but still a sucker play none the less.
That "trick" sounds similar to the "tell them your selling and the stock stinks, while your buying it cheap" trick.
Personally I hate manipulation in either direction.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Well I'm back . Looks like some one cried to the mods about me and was banned for a little while .
No new news I see ........
Like starving hyenas, the pack turns on itself!
Its getting ulgier by the day . One good thing is alteast the worst is behind us . From here out all we can lose is a quarter a share so think of the up side potential !!! Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I'm now upping my bet to $10,000 that we don't see a 10K, 10Q or any other kind of official confirmation from Rufus today. I call it the '10 for 10' bet - any takers ? Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Thers another trick to. Tell people your buying and sell when they jump in. Not a dead cat bounce, but still a sucker play none the less.
I'm sure that goes on EVERYDAY on the boards, 10of13 has that in her siggy... It would be wise to remember that.
-this is where solid DD comes into play... and this is where the average guy that bought in high sells and loses right before it goes to new highs.
Be comfortable with your trades and ride them out, the SEC hasn't proved one thing yet, -doesn't that tell you something?
-I could be wrong... Time will tell all ~
GL ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Somewhere in between the Roulet Wheel and the Craps Table... What kind of question is that?
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: You taxman whats your chance with this?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Who is "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance? After telling everybody to buy the **** out of this, he turns around and makes it look totally discouraging.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Frank, you make me sick if you are honestly buying up more shares.... Do you enjoy losing money?
Well prepare to get sick then... me too.
Posted by 6digits on :
taxback, I don't get your question about "we", what do you mean?
Posted by coollbreezz on :
i'm down 96%...what good will 6x1 do me now
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Does anyone have the address of Rufus' ranch? I want to look it up on the county tax records and find out its value and ownership.
It was my understanding that Rufus is renting that ranch. His horses, rented ranch. At least thats the way I understood it.
What i would like to know is.....why hasnt this thread been shut down yet? Posted by 6digits on :
Texasmoney, it looks to me like the longer our CEO delays getting market makers the more he is feeding the beast right out of his hand.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Here is a frightening excerpt from Friday’s press release:
'I know the storm is strong and we may suffer some damage but we will still be standing strong at the end. I have worked long and hard to form and build this corporation, and I will not stand by and let illegal market activities prevent us from our goals. Our corporation is the model corporation and will be the beginning of a new market place. Be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too. I would also like to thank each and every one of you for your prayers in these trying times, and may GOD bless each of you.'
When he says “we may suffer some damage” it concerns me that he uses the future tense. Any further damage and I’ll need to get my proctologist to extract his Georgia cowboy boot out of my ass.
How is it that “our corporate is the model corporation”? Well, I guess we are the model of what not to do (e.g. erroneous press release, contempt of a Federal Judge, default judgment).
What kind of paranoia weed is he smoking to say “be careful out there in the market; try not to feed the beast unless forced too.”
I feel violated and don't recall the details. Perhaps Rufus has slipped me a “roofie”?
Posted by coollbreezz on :
all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
Posted by 6digits on :
As for me personally I still have 56560 shares of this stock and if that can't get me a profit then forget it. I'm not buying one more share.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: i'm down 96%...what good will 6x1 do me now
Posted by 6digits on :
Repo you always seem to be around to have fun when other people are down, are you some kind of gay sadist or something. Whats up?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Repo you always seem to be around to have fun when other people are down, are you some kind of gay sadist or something. Whats up?
"Gay" sadist? Why do I have to be gay? Can't I just be a sadist?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: taxback, I don't get your question about "we", what do you mean?
You said "So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance?". What makes you think that you and I... "we" are in this together? Because that sentence "implies" that "we" are.
I have given my thoughts and research into this stock. I have my "perspective"... it may be right, or it may be wrong... but either way I will see this stock out, and will play it the way I am comfortable. I would suggest you do the same, do not ever invest more than what makes you comfortable, protect your capital when you can, and NEVER listen to anyone on a stock thread. (So please erase everything I and everyone else just said, and reboot.)
Thanks, TB
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Well I'm back . Looks like some one cried to the mods about me and was banned for a little while .
No new news I see ........
Like starving hyenas, the pack turns on itself!
I've been ridiculed, lectured, called names, banned, lost my wife, my retirement and son's college funds. That is in just one month.
I'm sorry but it's no1's fault but YOURS...you made the bad descisions. SO YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING U GOT THIS MONTH..I dont believe it... I cringe that you took your kids college funds...what type of sick and twisted guy are you...
Posted by 3403 on :
Sometimes a terminally ill person can linger on and on when there is no hope for any recovery, putting health care people and family through all sorts of termoil. Pulling the plug is often considered a better alternative to all involved including the patient then lingering in a state of constant and unstopable decay, so the family can go on living. We are the family, CSHD is the patient. The plug needs to be pulled.
Posted by 6digits on :
That option exist, but evidently you do have a psychosis of some sort.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I thought I posted the Nick Nolte mugshot to put in below his "ridiculed, lectured, called names, banned, lost my wife, my retirement and son's college funds. That is in just one month. " but it disapeared.
Operator error or deleted post?
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
I feel saddened today just thinking of all the people who went all in on this one. People were taking out 2nd mortages, maxing credit cards, and putting their life savings into this stock. If this does not recover it will ruin lots of lives. However it's not over till it's over. GLTA
Posted by 6digits on :
Oh excuse me, one less share holder that has to be counted. Don't worry i'm not gonna go by your word. It sounds like you have a similar intelligence level to my self. You bought the same stock that I did. Have at it and load up. I got all I want.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: taxback, I don't get your question about "we", what do you mean?
You said "So you guys think we still stand some kind of chance?". What makes you think that you and I... "we" are in this together? Because that sentence "implies" that "we" are.
I have given my thoughts and research into this stock. I have my "perspective"... it may be right, or it may be wrong... but either way I will see this stock out, and will play it the way I am comfortable. I would suggest you do the same, do not ever invest more than what makes you comfortable, protect your capital when you can, and NEVER listen to anyone on a stock thread. (So please erase everything I and everyone else just said, and reboot.)
Thanks, TB
Posted by trade04 on :
THIS REMINDS ME I WAS THINKING LAST NIGHT HOW UNFAIR IT WOULD BE TO not to ISSUE THE 6:1 TO THOSE OF RECORD AS OF THE HALT. THINK ABOUT IT MANY BOUGHT BEFORE THE HAULT AS CSHDE AROUND 2 DOLLARS. why should those who bought under .65 be rewarded (in terms of percent gains) when this stock goes to 2 dollars many will have much more bags, and be much better off than having the 6:1!! this is so stupid especially on rufus's part. the fact that he has not changed this statement really pisses me off. if the stock didn't get halted i wouldnt be complaining, but it did. SO I ASK OF YOU ALL IF YOU AGREE WITH ME and believe EVERYONE as of the halt should be entitled to the 6:1 please repost this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: i'm down 96%...what good will 6x1 do me now
Posted by 3403 on :
trade04, lighten up. My kid is grown and married,I have been single for ten years,and will never retire. LOL
Posted by 3403 on :
No one knows me, and many take what I say seriously.... ahhhhhh, just like Rufus.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Fredgrasshopper: I feel saddened today just thinking of all the people who went all in on this one. People were taking out 2nd mortages, maxing credit cards, and putting their life savings into this stock. If this does not recover it will ruin lots of lives. However it's not over till it's over. GLTA
That would be true for a few I am sure, but in reality you can only call those people "idiots" and they honestly for being that stupid/gulible deserve the beating they are getting from the SEC and manipulators.
Then you have the people that are on here joking about that senario like it is comedy. Those people also just plain deserve the beating... and we hope karma eventually answers.
GLTA in this... tripple dose of Karma to all who are not and enjoying the carnage from you comfy chairs.
Posted by MTPromises on :
does anyone know what kind of costs are associated with filings? (8K, 10K, 10Q, etc.)
Just curious.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Fredgrasshopper: I feel saddened today just thinking of all the people who went all in on this one. People were taking out 2nd mortages, maxing credit cards, and putting their life savings into this stock. If this does not recover it will ruin lots of lives. However it's not over till it's over. GLTA
That would be true for a few I am sure, but in reality you can only call those people "idiots" and they honestly for being that stupid/gulible deserve the beating they are getting from the SEC and manipulators.
Then you have the people that are on here joking about that senario like it is comedy. Those people also just plain deserve the beating... and we hope karma eventually answers.
GLTA in this... tripple dose of Karma to all who are not and enjoying the carnage from you comfy chairs.
Did you ever stop to think that mabye the bad karma is on YOU for some reason? Maybe KARMA is on CSHD holders.... for doing something ill will to others.
Revisit your past.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Fredgrasshopper: I feel saddened today just thinking of all the people who went all in on this one. People were taking out 2nd mortages, maxing credit cards, and putting their life savings into this stock. If this does not recover it will ruin lots of lives. However it's not over till it's over. GLTA
That would be true for a few I am sure, but in reality you can only call those people "idiots" and they honestly for being that stupid/gulible deserve the beating they are getting from the SEC and manipulators.
Then you have the people that are on here joking about that senario like it is comedy. Those people also just plain deserve the beating... and we hope karma eventually answers.
GLTA in this... tripple dose of Karma to all who are not and enjoying the carnage from you comfy chairs.
Man you are tough... No one deserves this beating even if they were naive.
Posted by coollbreezz on :
u can't compare cshd to enron.... there is hope and rufus is not lehay
Posted by 6digits on :
All for one and one for all. J/K
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: does anyone know what kind of costs are associated with filings? (8K, 10K, 10Q, etc.)
Just curious.
Does it really matter? A company that is supposed to be a "fully" reporting company should have the funds to report.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
Dude wow...
I watch and keep a tab on about 25 stocks, when the chart patterns are right, like with APPI and BANY where today, then I watch them and if they do "something" then I jump in...
How about I give you a list of ones to watch along with a chart so you can "SEE" what I look for.
Interested?... -- PM me your email address... How's that sound?
After that you're on your own though...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
You should play some of Repo's picks....and that is not sarcasm.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
You should play some of Repo's picks....and that is not sarcasm.
dollar discount on this current pullback in FRPT
-checkout the headlines.... Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
You should play some of Repo's picks....and that is not sarcasm.
dollar discount on this current pullback in FRPT
-checkout the headlines....
Forget it. I've told at least 6 people PRIVATELY about this stock when it was $7... and the same response - "Thanks, but I'm gonna hang tough with CSHD".
LAST TIME PEOPLE. YOU BUY ON WEAKNESS, NOT CAPITULATION. FRPT IS WEAK TODAY.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
3403 ~ I have lived in multiple towns with river boat casinos, and when I was single and young I used to hit the boats after the bars closed.
The most disturbing thing to me was that a few of the larger boats, actually had active "day cares" in them, and at 3AM when I got to the boat to play some craps. I would see that those day cares were full of young kids and babies.
I have NO tolerance for people who bet their last dime, or abuse their kids "within the limit of the law".
Playing stupid/naive is not an excuse. Reach for the brass ring only when it is within in reach. Any other time is too much risk.
Posted by mlfox on :
Then we all should be loading up on CSHD, cause this is as weak as it's gonna get. LOL
Still holding with out regrets.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
You should play some of Repo's picks....and that is not sarcasm.
dollar discount on this current pullback in FRPT
-checkout the headlines....
Forget it. I've told at least 6 people PRIVATELY about this stock when it was $7... and the same response - "Thanks, but I'm gonna hang tough with CSHD".
LAST TIME PEOPLE. YOU BUY ON WEAKNESS, NOT CAPITULATION. FRPT IS WEAK TODAY.
Posted by 6digits on :
I wish I could understand what the delay is in getting some MMs in on this. If they are available why the delay, why, why, why? Seriously. It seems to me that if someone has to make good on shares this would be one of the best times to do it and Rufus should know that. Then he says don't feed the beast. Very contradictory agenda IMO.
Posted by mlfox on :
None whatsoever. I invested only what I felt comfortable about losing, just like any play. If it tanks, what the hell. It is all a long shot in penny world anyway. Just another gamble. If it does what my DD suggested it would, I win, let's have a party. This one don't look so good right now, but it isn't over until it gets shut down by the SEC or I sell. Until then I will trust my DD and hold for the final curtain.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by mlfox: Then we all should be loading up on CSHD, cause this is as weak as it's gonna get. LOL
Still holding with out regrets.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: all my stocks are about the same..augc,ecfl, chsd... i really know how to pick them...
You should play some of Repo's picks....and that is not sarcasm.
dollar discount on this current pullback in FRPT
-checkout the headlines....
Forget it. I've told at least 6 people PRIVATELY about this stock when it was $7... and the same response - "Thanks, but I'm gonna hang tough with CSHD".
LAST TIME PEOPLE. YOU BUY ON WEAKNESS, NOT CAPITULATION. FRPT IS WEAK TODAY.
Honestly? YOU HAVE NO REGRETS?? NONE? NONE WHATSOEVER??!!
That's called MADNESS.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: trade04, lighten up. My kid is grown and married,I have been single for ten years,and will never retire. LOL
dude then why do you make a statement if it isnt true...you like people to look down on you? doesnt make any sense...your words create a perception of you for others... maybe you shouldve added a LOL or jk to your statement if you HAD TO say something so condescending about yourself...
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: i'm down 96%...what good will 6x1 do me now
LOL exactly.. 6:1 would still give me a 50% loss for buying in as late as i did.
Posted by 6digits on :
repo and company, how many shares of frpt do you think I can buy before I make any kind of reasonable profit? I can get 9 shares for $99 if it goes up a buck I made $9 bucks. If I put a $100K on it as you guys have done I can make about $9k. Or I can lose $9k. If that happens it will go to a good cause. The guys that wanted me to buy it. Cause they'll be selling for the profit they have in it.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Repo: Find me that post. Liar.
Besides, its at $11 now. Money made nevertheless
You basically admitted to it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: i'm down 96%...what good will 6x1 do me now
LOL exactly.. 6:1 would still give me a 50% loss for buying in as late as i did.
Then you could tell your friends you are down 96% on 7 times you original shares. Duh. Every cloud has a silver lining.
They might by you a free drink to cry into.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: repo and company, how many shares of frpt do you think I can buy before I make any kind of reasonable profit? I can get 9 shares for $99 if it goes up a buck I made $9 bucks. If I put a $100K on it as you guys have done I can make about $9k. Or I can lose $9k. If that happens it will go to a good cause. The guys that wanted me to buy it. Cause they'll be selling for the profit they have in it.
True. I thought some of you guys were players here, WHALES.
But if you don't have the capital, stick to lottery tickets.... no point in making small gains over and over again. Just let it ride!
In fairness to all here, most everyone didn't start with a bankroll unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. I know several that took as little as $500 and watched it grow over time. A gain is a gain, no matter how small, and it DOES add up. It is just unfortunate (at least at this moment) that some players started with this one....
Posted by 6digits on :
Just for general information I have been posting on this board since may of 2004. Is'nt that neat.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: repo and company, how many shares of frpt do you think I can buy before I make any kind of reasonable profit? I can get 9 shares for $99 if it goes up a buck I made $9 bucks. If I put a $100K on it as you guys have done I can make about $9k. Or I can lose $9k. If that happens it will go to a good cause. The guys that wanted me to buy it. Cause they'll be selling for the profit they have in it.
True. I thought some of you guys were players here, WHALES.
But if you don't have the capital, stick to lottery tickets.... no point in making small gains over and over again. Just let it ride!
In fairness to all here, most everyone didn't start with a bankroll unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. I know several that took as little as $500 and watched it grow over time. A gain is a gain, no matter how small, and it DOES add up. It is just unfortunate (at least at this moment) that some players started with this one....
Sherri - I was down to $1,300 in my portfolio March of this year. As of right now, I am up tens of thousands.
And that was sarcasm... some people just don't understand.
Posted by betting babe on :
me2 diggidee april 2004 here
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:True. I thought some of you guys were players here, WHALES.
But if you don't have the capital, stick to lottery tickets.... no point in making small gains over and over again. Just let it ride!
youve been watching stock commercials too much. like that art auction one...buying and selling constantly doesnt make any sense...
that is so untrue..you make much more as a day trader than sitting for long periods of time waiting. you still have to sell the stock to make your cash so why not participate in quick gains instead of wasting time waiting for long term gains..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Just for general information I have been posting on this board since may of 2004. Is'nt that neat.
and you are planning on posting something useful soon right? HA HA!! Sorry.
You just walked into that one. Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Just for general information I have been posting on this board since may of 2004. Is'nt that neat.
they left......
who you ask??
the people go gave a ----.
lol...
Posted by 6digits on :
This year I was up $60k on xkem, $120k on ndol, and $200k on cshd. Now where do I go from here. You have a good stock there repo and I'm damn proud of ya. I just like the ones that I can buy large amount of.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:True. I thought some of you guys were players here, WHALES.
But if you don't have the capital, stick to lottery tickets.... no point in making small gains over and over again. Just let it ride!
youve been watching stock commercials too much. like that art auction one...buying and selling constantly doesnt make any sense...
that is so untrue..you make much more as a day trader than sitting for long periods of time waiting. you still have to sell the stock to make your cash so why not participate in quick gains instead of wasting time waiting for long term gains..
Sarcasm, sarcasm.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: This year I was up $60k on xkem, $120k on ndol, and $200k on cshd. Now where do I go from here. You have a good stock there repo and I'm damn proud of ya. I just like the ones that I can buy large amount of.
Dude, FRPT isn't one of them then??? IT's the perfect stock to go big on! When we hit $20 in Jan., that's an easy double!
I'm missing something here....
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
trade,
now that I know what you do for a hobby, I now understand why you post what you do. Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
The deadline has not passed yet. It was not as of market close today....(not that I think it shouldn't have been filed earlier, but...)
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: This year I was up $60k on xkem, $120k on ndol, and $200k on cshd. Now where do I go from here. You have a good stock there repo and I'm damn proud of ya. I just like the ones that I can buy large amount of.
WOW great job! how mutch of this did you actualy bank? if you don`t mind my asking.
Posted by 6digits on :
You're not missing anything, you'll double your money when that happens. Everyone does'nt have to buy frpt to stand a chance to make money.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: This year I was up $60k on xkem, $120k on ndol, and $200k on cshd. Now where do I go from here. You have a good stock there repo and I'm damn proud of ya. I just like the ones that I can buy large amount of.
Dude, FRPT isn't one of them then??? IT's the perfect stock to go big on! When we hit $20 in Jan., that's an easy double!
I'm missing something here....
Posted by 6digits on :
Don't get mad if I don't say. Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: trade,
now that I know what you do for a hobby, I now understand why you post what you do.
lol my hobby? as in Herbals?...if thats what u were thinking then u hit the nail on the head...
Ya, it rhymes with:
deed, need, feed, seed............
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
The deadline has not passed yet. It was not as of market close today....(not that I think it shouldn't have been earlier, but...)
Deadline is not until 5:30PM for sure, and it might be midnight for a 10Q... 10K is definitely midnight. 10Q is similar not sure.
Posted by Chart walker on :
BANY, -up 418%!! vs my pick that did 45% APPI
They both looked great!
oh well...
Yes FRPT will go higher, (after she settles) they have it all set to go to the NAZ it looks like to me. -but that will take a couple weeks, but then BOOM again ~ IMO Posted by 6digits on :
The NT10q was filed, regardless of being required or not. Maybe just a personal preference? It seems like the least Rufus could do. I can't imagine what else he might be doing. Unless he has a serious conflict of interest between his $8000 horse or his $7,000,000,000 bonds, tough decision there, really toughy.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Chart - BANY, up 500%.
Yeah, rub it in! ha ha ~~
Had two on the HOT LIST, I went with the other one APPI (45%) not bad...
--but chit huh?!! ouch! ha ha ~~~
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
The deadline has not passed yet. It was not as of market close today....(not that I think it shouldn't have been earlier, but...)
Deadline is not until 5:30PM for sure, and it might be midnight for a 10Q... 10K is definitely midnight. 10Q is similar not sure.
You really think it matters, if its not in now you wont see it trust me. I can't believe you guys don't see you have been duped. The only reason I havent sold out is because of principle, Im going to sink with the ship or a miracle will happen
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
The deadline has not passed yet. It was not as of market close today....(not that I think it shouldn't have been earlier, but...)
Deadline is not until 5:30PM for sure, and it might be midnight for a 10Q... 10K is definitely midnight. 10Q is similar not sure.
You really think it matters, if its not in now you wont see it trust me. I can't believe you guys don't see you have been duped. The only reason I havent sold out is because of principle, Im going to sink with the ship or a miracle will happen
-you haven't done much digging on your own have you?...
Why do you think some here aren't all freaked out?...
Stay Frosty ~ Posted by 6digits on :
Miracle, he either has what he said or he does'nt, do you think a bond will just appear at the last minute and change the directionwe will go?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Well no 10Q....game over.
No company that is truly legit and wants to be a nasdaq stock doesnt file on time after an extension
The deadline has not passed yet. It was not as of market close today....(not that I think it shouldn't have been earlier, but...)
Deadline is not until 5:30PM for sure, and it might be midnight for a 10Q... 10K is definitely midnight. 10Q is similar not sure.
You really think it matters, if its not in now you wont see it trust me. I can't believe you guys don't see you have been duped. The only reason I havent sold out is because of principle, Im going to sink with the ship or a miracle will happen
-you haven't done much digging on your own have you?...
Why do you think some here aren't all freaked out?...
Stay Frosty ~
Sorry Chart, this may come off as offensive but I'm not trying to be. You keep on talking about the extensive DD people and you have done. Do you know what that DD has equated to? A .19 share price with a SEC investigation. Just because those bond letters and such are filed in the Georgia Clerk system, that does not mean they are legit. They could have been frauded by Rufus. Remember Rufus claimed to have a 100million bond in BBAN which was shown to be false. Remember Rufus has no successful past as a businessman and has many shady allegations against him. Remember, the board of directors consists of who now? Romeo Vendetti and Rufus...come on now. A billion dollar company run by 2 people? Where is Sabra? Oh I forgot when she found out the farse she didnt want her good reputation to be ruined. Also, where is the 10Q, any reputable company would have it submitted by now. Where is the amended 8k and 10k the SEC asked for? Where is that 4billion bond Rufus secured that he said would be 8k'ed weeks back. DD means nothing here when all the information isn't proven to be real.
Just my opinion, but I guess its the markets opinion too Posted by frank021474 on :
8-K/A
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K/A
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
November 14, 2006 --------------------------------- Date of Report (Date of Earliest Event Reported)
Delaware 000-13910 43-2109079
--------------- ------------ -------------------
(State or other jurisdiction of (Commission (I.R.S. Employer
incorporation) File Number) Identification No.)
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- (Exact Name of Registrant as Specified in its Charter)
125 Town Park Drive, Suite 300, Kennesaw, GA 301440 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- (Address of principal executive offices)
(678) 758-3010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)
507 Main Street, Suite A, Lake Dallas, TX 75065 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Former name and former address, if changed since last report)
On November 14, 2006, Mr. Michael Alexander as Sole Director of the Company determined after spending the last couple of weeks reviewing the financial records of the Company accumulated by the previous management group that it is in the best interest of the Company’s shareholders that the future of the Company will best be served by the previous management group located in Georgia as they have the financial background and relationships with issuers of the bonds assets they brought to the Company. Mr. Alexander is under the opinion that they have the best opportunity to monetize the assets and if so monetized, implement the Company’s business plan. In conjunction with this decision, Mr. Alexander has reappointed Mr. Rufus Harris as the Sole Director and Chief Executive Officer of the Company.
Item 5.02 - Departure of Directors or Principal Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Principal Officers
On November 14, 2006, Mr. Michael Alexander resigned as Sole Director and Chief Executive Officer of the Company after appointing Mr. Rufus Harris as the Sole Director and Chief Executive Officer with the full authority to appoint other Directors and Officers as he deems necessary. Mr. Alexander’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him.
On November 14, 2006, Mr. Randy Moseley resigned as Chief Financial Officer of the Company. Mr. Moseley’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him.
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp updates shareholders on current events
Lake Dallas, TX, November 14, 2006 -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC BB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces the following current events have taken place.
As of 8:38 p.m. on November 14, 2006, Mike Alexander has resigned as director and Chief Executive Officer and Randy Moseley has resigned as Chief Financial Officer of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD).
Mike Alexander says that, “I have spent the last couple weeks reviewing the records of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD) and have come to the conclusion that for the Company’s assets to be monetized, the Conversion Solutions management group located in Georgia has the background and relationships in the bond market, with particular bond assets claimed as assets by the Company, to implement the Company’s business plan. I, and all of the shareholders, with the group in Georgia the best of luck in the development of the Company and the shareholders’ value. Mr. Harris has agreed to assume his previous management and board position and will be making announcements in the near future. He can be reached at (678) 758-3010.’
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD’s main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by frank021474 on :
Weird- thats an 8-k/A today posted from the 8-k filed back on the 17th.
Need to look and compare the two
Posted by SherriT on :
If I recall correctly, there was something about a wrong phone number that they corrected....
Posted by highhopes on :
The current EDGAR system hours of operation for submitting EDGARized documents electronically are 6:00 a.m.-10:00 p.m. Eastern Time, weekdays, excluding Federal holidays. Files submitted and accepted by EDGAR before 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time will have the current business day's date. Section 16 filings as well as certain other filings will have the current business day's date if submitted and accepted by 10:00 p.m. Eastern.
Posted by frank021474 on :
It just includes the departure of Randy Mosely it looks like
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Sorry Chart, this may come off as offensive but I'm not trying to be. You keep on talking about the extensive DD people and you have done. Do you know what that DD has equated to? A .19 share price with a SEC investigation. Just because those bond letters and such are filed in the Georgia Clerk system, that does not mean they are legit. They could have been frauded by Rufus. Remember Rufus claimed to have a 100million bond in BBAN which was shown to be false. Remember Rufus has no successful past as a businessman and has many shady allegations against him. Remember, the board of directors consists of who now? Romeo Vendetti and Rufus...come on now. A billion dollar company run by 2 people? Where is Sabra? Oh I forgot when she found out the farse she didnt want her good reputation to be ruined. Also, where is the 10Q, any reputable company would have it submitted by now. Where is the amended 8k and 10k the SEC asked for? Where is that 4billion bond Rufus secured that he said would be 8k'ed weeks back. DD means nothing here when all the information isn't proven to be real.
Just my opinion, but I guess its the markets opinion too [/QB]
Nothing wrong with being honest about how you feel...
Bonds are old news. And there are ties to people who are tied into things, the leg work is there to do. And you are right, even with the NEW things that some of us have found (not mentioned on the board) it doesn't mean that those things are "real" either.... -but I'm just saying that we aren't at "the end"
If it was time to bail I'd say (did it once before!).
With what I've seen I have to ride this out, even if just for the week...
GL to you!! Posted by Igor R on :
Yea, so far looks like "On November 14, 2006,Mr. Randy Moseley resigned as Chief Financial Officer of the Company. Mr.Moseley’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between theCompany and him." is the only addition.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Sorry Chart, this may come off as offensive but I'm not trying to be. You keep on talking about the extensive DD people and you have done. Do you know what that DD has equated to? A .19 share price with a SEC investigation. Just because those bond letters and such are filed in the Georgia Clerk system, that does not mean they are legit. They could have been frauded by Rufus. Remember Rufus claimed to have a 100million bond in BBAN which was shown to be false. Remember Rufus has no successful past as a businessman and has many shady allegations against him. Remember, the board of directors consists of who now? Romeo Vendetti and Rufus...come on now. A billion dollar company run by 2 people? Where is Sabra? Oh I forgot when she found out the farse she didnt want her good reputation to be ruined. Also, where is the 10Q, any reputable company would have it submitted by now. Where is the amended 8k and 10k the SEC asked for? Where is that 4billion bond Rufus secured that he said would be 8k'ed weeks back. DD means nothing here when all the information isn't proven to be real.
Just my opinion, but I guess its the markets opinion too
Nothing wrong with being honest about how you feel...
Bonds are old news. And there are ties to people who are tied into things, the leg work is there to do. And you are right, even with the NEW things that some of us have found (not mentioned on the board) it doesn't mean that those things are "real" either.... -but I'm just saying that we aren't at "the end"
If it was time to bail I'd say (did it once before!).
With what I've seen I have to ride this out, even if just for the week...
GL to you!! [/QB]
Bonds are old news? LOL...proving the bonds are real are the only thing this company has going for it. Think about it for a second. If these bonds were real, why aren't the people who gave him the bonds stepping up and letting the SEC know?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Has anyone reviewed the “Charter” on cvsu.us? More specifically the charter section “Compensation Committee (the “Committee”) of the Board of Directors (the “Board”) of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.” and “Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee Is to assist the Board of Directors of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.”
This might provide some insight as to what is headed our way.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Has anyone reviewed the “Charter” on cvsu.us? More specifically the charter section “Compensation Committee (the “Committee”) of the Board of Directors (the “Board”) of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.” and “Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee Is to assist the Board of Directors of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.”
This might provide some insight as to what is headed our way.
Compensation Committee? I guess they are the ones that will issue our $15.00/share after the shareholder class action lawsuit? lol
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Has anyone reviewed the “Charter” on cvsu.us? More specifically the charter section “Compensation Committee (the “Committee”) of the Board of Directors (the “Board”) of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.” and “Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee Is to assist the Board of Directors of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.”
This might provide some insight as to what is headed our way.
instead of inferring, can you tell us what you believe is headed our way based on those things?
Posted by betting babe on :
ok here's a thought.
the halt was planned.
now the shorts cant buy or sell and they're stuck.
so the only way to make a profit is to have a private settlement / buyout and those holding legit shares make money from their compensation.
and then the company goes private again.
ummm.
~BB
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ok here's a thought.
the halt was planned.
now the shorts cant buy or sell and they're stuck.
so the only way to make a profit is to have a private settlement / buyout and those holding legit shares make money from their compensation.
and then the company goes private again.
ummm.
~BB
keep dreaming Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ok here's a thought.
the halt was planned.
now the shorts cant buy or sell and they're stuck.
so the only way to make a profit is to have a private settlement / buyout and those holding legit shares make money from their compensation.
and then the company goes private again.
ummm.
~BB
If that is how Rufus plans on getting 7 figures in my account like he said he would, then more power to him. Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
You guys are funny, the gig is up here. It was up the day the SEC halted this stock. 10Q ? Prepared by WHO ? Rufus ?
C'mon boys, there won't be a 10Q in my opinion. I will be shocked to see one filed.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Posted by betting babe on :
LOL
movin on...
Posted by madmoney on :
the compensation committee is there to determine salery and other forms of compensation for the BOD and other officers of the company. the only compesation commitee that will effect us is the one appointed by the courts when CSHD loses the class action suit brought by share holders and is forced to liquidate their assets ( if they have any! )
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
If Rufus doesnt pull through he better get jail time
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: the compensation committee is there to determine salery and other forms of compensation for the BOD and other officers of the company. the only compesation commitee that will effect us is the one appointed by the courts when CSHD loses the class action suit brought by share holders and is forced to liquidate their assets ( if they have any! )
A shareholder class action suit should be an EASY victory for us, as we all know CSHD does not have legal counsel representing them in a court of law....lmao
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I just have a bad feeling this hastily formed “shareholder committee” has committed to decisions by way of proxy until the formally nominated committee has been established.
So, Rufus anoints one person, that person hand picks others, and for 30 days they “might” have the right to make decisions on behalf of the shareholders.
This is ONLY WILD ASS speculation on my part but have a bad feeling our hand is going to forced into something. I suppose that is not a bad thing if I agree with the “temporary committee”, but if I do not agree then I will feel defrauded.
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe, nice thought. You have good thoughts.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
So, what will be the fat lady's first words when she starts singing?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Babe, nice thought. You have good thoughts.
Good thoughts because shes wildly speculating on something that may benefit shareholders?
Posted by frank021474 on :
She is speculating just like a lot of others speculate on here that the sky is falling.
Lets see how it pans out- if its fraud and turns out terrible then we can all raise our arms up in protest.
Until then- some speculate the good side and some speculate the bad side. Either way- until things come out official they are all speculation.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
30 minutes...tick, tick, tick....
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
It's 5pm - Do You Know Where Your 10Q Is ?
(I've been waiting all day to post that Posted by thesource on :
Posted by 6digits on :
Has it been established that the 10Q has to be filed 5 days after the extension or 5 business days after? Me wonders.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Has it been established that the 10Q has to be filed 5 days after the extension or 5 business days after? Me wonders.
Its definately calendar days. Someone posted up the actual link with the rules etc...
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
Lets see how it pans out- if its fraud and turns out terrible then we can all raise our arms up in protest.
.19 pps, no 10Q, SEC Halt and claims of Fraud, Rufus appears to be the only one working at the company....how much more terrible will it get? LOL.
Posted by 6digits on :
OK.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Has it been established that the 10Q has to be filed 5 days after the extension or 5 business days after? Me wonders.
Its definately calendar days. Someone posted up the actual link with the rules etc...
Posted by SherriT on :
There again, we are on the grey sheets now, so we may not HAVE to file....however, it does also seem contradictory that you would file an extension if you had no intentions of filing the actual document. The only kicker is that one CEO did the extension and the old-is-new again CEO has the option of filing the actual document. Mike didn't have a lawsuit filed against him either....
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
Lets see how it pans out- if its fraud and turns out terrible then we can all raise our arms up in protest.
.19 pps, no 10Q, SEC Halt and claims of Fraud, Rufus appears to be the only one working at the company....how much more terrible will it get? LOL.
lmao.
Very true. Rufus pulled a nice one. I thought for sure we werent seeing a scam when he has very young daughters. Oh well. I'm surprised he'd let shareholders come to his horse stables if it was a full out scam.
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
Lets see how it pans out- if its fraud and turns out terrible then we can all raise our arms up in protest.
.19 pps, no 10Q, SEC Halt and claims of Fraud, Rufus appears to be the only one working at the company....how much more terrible will it get? LOL.
Just got in, trying to catch up. Was there another halt?
Posted by 6digits on :
On my way into the city, I'll check back later.
BB, there's a 30 day grace period on emails.
Posted by thesource on :
It seems the phoenix turned out to be a pigeon after all ..........
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stocktrader22:
GL to you!!
Bonds are old news? LOL...proving the bonds are real are the only thing this company has going for it. Think about it for a second. If these bonds were real, why aren't the people who gave him the bonds stepping up and letting the SEC know?
Meant that we are viewing OTHER info at this time... Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: It seems the phoenix turned out to be a pigeon after all ..........
LMAO! Now that is just funny!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stocktrader22:
GL to you!!
Bonds are old news? LOL...proving the bonds are real are the only thing this company has going for it. Think about it for a second. If these bonds were real, why aren't the people who gave him the bonds stepping up and letting the SEC know?
Meant that we are viewing OTHER info at this time...
I want to hear your response to my question in the post.
Posted by 3403 on :
Pull the plug.........
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stocktrader22:
GL to you!!
Bonds are old news? LOL...proving the bonds are real are the only thing this company has going for it. Think about it for a second. If these bonds were real, why aren't the people who gave him the bonds stepping up and letting the SEC know?
Meant that we are viewing OTHER info at this time...
I want to hear your response to my question in the post.
I have a few thoughts:
1) Maybe they did and the SEC did not accept that as proof
2) Maybe they have not been asked to do so (Rufus hasn't exactly been on the ball in CSHD's defense)
3) Maybe them offering proof takes a bit more time than has passed since the request
Just ideas - not that I necessarily believe them, but they are plausible.
Posted by luvforever on :
Last Trade: $0.19 Change: -0.030 (-13.64%)
Trade Time: 03:55 PM EST Volume: 1,065,645
52 Week Range: $0.00 - $1.00 Market Cap: $11.87M
Latest Filings [ All Filing Results ] View Form [?] Received Period Folders Alerts 8-K/A 11/20/06 11/14/06
8-K 11/17/06 11/17/06
NT 10-Q 11/14/06 09/30/06
from edgar did i miss something??????????
Posted by betting babe on :
yeah, my above thoughts were half tongue-in-cheek, half who-the-heck-knows.
at least i didnt post an 800 x 600 pixel picture with those thoughts
~BB
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Well no 10Q...this play is now over officially in my book. If CSHD (aka Rufus) wanted to gain any credibility the 10Q would be out.
Posted by luvforever on :
okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Who the heck knows . IMO MA filed the NT10Q just to cover his butt until he was gone .
Posted by 3403 on :
Sherri, I agree. There could be a number of plausable reasons what needs to be done isn't. Also I am sure there are good reasons our shareholder committee brothers and sisters aren't telling us anything.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stocktrader22:
GL to you!!
Bonds are old news? LOL...proving the bonds are real are the only thing this company has going for it. Think about it for a second. If these bonds were real, why aren't the people who gave him the bonds stepping up and letting the SEC know?
Meant that we are viewing OTHER info at this time...
I want to hear your response to my question in the post.
???huh?
About people stepping up for Rufus??
They aren't "people" they are business's and banks, unless called to court they won't even know about it. The SEC called for EUROCLEAR and they wouldn't know cause...
Let me put it this way... I own shares of XYZ company, if someone asks the DTCC if "I" own shares they will say no, no one on record by that name, -yet I own them.... -how can that be???
-Cause my shares are under my Accounts name, or "street name" (-like Scottrade for example), you would have to ask Scottrade if I owned them.
So there is no trail to point to Rufus until he draws from them to fund the subs... Rufus further gave all the "codes" to those bonds so someone could OPEN the bond and see what was what. Codes for EUROCLEAR?!!! Who has those?! Yet Rufus did ~ "WHERE did he get them from?!"
NOW THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE RIGHT?... Open it up and take a look...
So why didn't the SEC shut down CSHD? Why did we do a 180 and start trading again instead?....
hmmmmmmmm,... "?"
Yes the WHOLE deal is about the bonds, but when you look at everything that you can, -then you start circling out, checking those details and seeing there they lead... That is what I meant by other info, -to confirm or disprove the bonds.
--is this what you wanted to hear?..
I'm going to eat ~ Later board!
Posted by 3403 on :
Even if everything would somehow turn out, I want Rufus replaced.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Uh, oh! What’s that I hear? It sounds like the class action lawsuit bus just started it’s engine. The question is who is going to drive?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
if you dont mind me asking were you ever invested in this and are you still? And was it some nice amount or chump change?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Sweet!
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL ;)
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
I am a newbie, what happened with BBAN?
Posted by mlfox on :
I think you will post again. :|
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Sweet!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: okay they said they would do the extension so wouldn't that mean they will file?? my guess could be wrong LOL
Well as you can see they are late after the extension. Doubt we see any 10Q.
Can't believe Rufus would pull this off with 3 young daughters and wife. What a shame
Dufus is a con man ........ If he pulled the same crap with BBAN , whats going to stop him now ?
I'd love to hear Portman or St. Matt try to explain this one for us . Have fun in D.C. guys , I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
I am a newbie, what happened with BBAN?
Mr. Paul Rufus Harris said that he got a 100million bond which was not true and ended up being fraud.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
Does anyone know where the "anointed" committee is at, I dont see them anywhere...
Posted by highhopes on :
I think the lack of information from the committee is a good thing. Had they thought all was lost I suspect we would have heard more.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I thought they were supposed to be our voices, HA.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think the lack of information from the committee is a good thing. Had they thought all was lost I suspect we would have heard more.
Agreed. Be interesting to see what shakes out here
-fw
Posted by 3403 on :
Stock, check your mail
Posted by 3403 on :
My committee chairman has told me nothing, and my CEO has told me nothing. Fire them both!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
2.3.1 Hours of Operation
EDGAR accepts filings and changes to company information each business day, Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Transmissions started but not completed by 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time may be canceled, and you may have to re-submit on the next business day.
Ooops... more DD during "basher" hours. I really got to get used to the new schedule.
Posted by 3403 on :
Thanks Stock.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 2.3.1 Hours of Operation
EDGAR accepts filings and changes to company information each business day, Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Transmissions started but not completed by 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time may be canceled, and you may have to re-submit on the next business day.
Ooops... more DD during "basher" hours. I really got to get used to the new schedule.
Tax keep on hoping...but it ain't happening buddy. Sorry Trust me, it hurts me just as much as it hurts you if not more. Just being realistic now
Posted by 3403 on :
The shame of the matter is that most white collar crimes such as this if it is indeed one are lightly punished.
Posted by 3403 on :
For those of you who say "Show me the Money" that Rufus may of made. Let me assure you, if he was smart enough to pull this off (if it is a scam) he was smart enough to figure out how to profit from it. If it is not a scam I want him replaced.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 2.3.1 Hours of Operation
EDGAR accepts filings and changes to company information each business day, Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Transmissions started but not completed by 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time may be canceled, and you may have to re-submit on the next business day.
Ooops... more DD during "basher" hours. I really got to get used to the new schedule.
Tax keep on hoping...but it ain't happening buddy. Sorry Trust me, it hurts me just as much as it hurts you if not more. Just being realistic now
As much complaining as I hear from some folks in this I don't think you are playing with money you CAN lose. So with that being said- I wouldn't put myself into the same hurt category as you are.
I bought MORE today. Not because I am a kool aid drinking zombie but more because its money I CAN gamble with(Its pennystocks- its gambling).
Doesn't mean at the end of the day I will be sitting there like charlie brown kicking a can down the road shaking my head.
Its an expensive lesson Posted by 3403 on :
I lowered my basis .70cents a share.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I think and believe that there is a bigger plan here, patience as far as the company is concerned, we are all in the same boat.. if this baby sinks I am going with it, all the complaining in the world is not going to change what is going to happen.. I was talking with someone very knowledgeable about this company, no insider stuff, but this company can take a new form, patience.. thats all i gotta say.. except I still can not believe this shareholder committee thing, I will not register my information...
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: ...I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Finally, Rufus's plan has worked ...now we can get on to the next chapter.
Posted by frank021474 on :
LOL Milliam!
Posted by bigstocks on :
Originally posted by thesource:
...I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well . --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally, Rufus's plan has worked ...now we can get on to the next chapter.
2 Best posts of the day! Posted by Igor R on :
Anyone know if Rufus is planning on still going on SPR tonight for his update he said he would do from last weeks show?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 2.3.1 Hours of Operation
EDGAR accepts filings and changes to company information each business day, Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Transmissions started but not completed by 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time may be canceled, and you may have to re-submit on the next business day.
Ooops... more DD during "basher" hours. I really got to get used to the new schedule.
Tax keep on hoping...but it ain't happening buddy. Sorry Trust me, it hurts me just as much as it hurts you if not more. Just being realistic now
As much complaining as I hear from some folks in this I don't think you are playing with money you CAN lose. So with that being said- I wouldn't put myself into the same hurt category as you are.
I bought MORE today. Not because I am a kool aid drinking zombie but more because its money I CAN gamble with(Its pennystocks- its gambling).
Doesn't mean at the end of the day I will be sitting there like charlie brown kicking a can down the road shaking my head.
Its an expensive lesson
Yup...I am playign with money I can lose...if I lose it all I'm still up overall with my original portfolio from when I started heavily trading again 5 months ago
Posted by highhopes on :
Filings keep popping at the SEC site so it is entirely possible that CSHD is still to come. It would not be completly out of character for the filing to come up while Rufus was on the phone with Simon. Not the way I would do it but a distinct possibility.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Praise the lord...Godspeed.
quote:Originally posted by milliam:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: ...I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Finally, Rufus's plan has worked ...now we can get on to the next chapter.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Praise the lord...Godspeed.
quote:Originally posted by milliam:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: ...I personally am done posting on this thread . If it turns around , great , if not oh well .
Finally, Rufus's plan has worked ...now we can get on to the next chapter.
St. Matt, What are we going to do without the source posting. Things just keep getting worse and worse. Posted by TexasMoney on :
Hey, St. Matt –
Do you work from home? I get a chuckle out of your signature since you live in DFW. An extra mile on LBJ, HWY 75, or HWY 35 is bound to give you traffic jams. Posted by TexasMoney on :
A bet the CSHD corporate Christmas party will be a hoot! Posted by highhopes on :
Just noticed that anything that was filed after 5:30 has been a form 3 or 4. Not sure if that means you cannot file quarterlys after 5:30 or just that no one does. Makes me think we might be waiting on a PR instead of a report filing. I have to believe something comes out tonight.
Posted by highhopes on :
For what it is worth this was posted on HSM. Sounds like there may be an argument that we have 1 more day to file...
It's a possibility that there is a small technicality here.... and it will depend on when the 10Q was first due... The question is... was the due date the 15th or the 14th of Nov?
The reason is simple... if it were the 15th... the N-10Q is due 5 days following the due date... which means that starting from the 16th count five to get 21st... or Tuesday, tomorrow.
If it was the 14th, then it is late... and by tomorrow will be again in the dog house.
Now, understand that the N-10Q was submitted on 11/14/2006 but no matter. It depends on when the filing was actually due. So there may be a small crack to slip in to just by the dates.... If anyone can tell for certain the date the 10Q was due it would certainly shed more light on this debacle.
Posted by Igor R on :
Doesn't it work that if something is filed after 5:30 pm, that it will show up in the system the following morning at 6 am?
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Doesn't it work that if something is filed after 5:30 pm, that it will show up in the system the following morning at 6 am?
yes
Posted by 3403 on :
I think they may of asked for an extension until after the holidays. It is difficult to find help to put together these kind of filelings during Thanksgiving, Chritmas and New Years.
Posted by milliam on :
Highhopes...that makes sense! It wouldn't be bad if we could of heard that from someone in the know though...like Rufus. What date did Rufus say the 10q was due on SPR? I want to say he said the 22nd.
I can't wait until everything is golden again and the koolaid is sweeter than ever Posted by 3403 on :
Mrs. MacMiliam (she's my 80 yr old neighbor) said she thought the SEC (I think she thought I said sect) being a Christian organization would allow a continuence till after the first. I've asked her many things over the years about our neighborhood and she hasn't been wrong yet so who knows.
Posted by highhopes on :
Milliam, I agree. If this was the case it seems that someone in the know would have set expectations much earlier in the day with a post to that effect. In itself that would not consititue insider info. I guess, as always, we wait to see....Thanks
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Rufus said on subpennyradio that the 10-Q would not only be filed on time but it would audited as well. It’s amazing how much rope is around his neck from those long nights on SPR. I knew he was sticking his neck out making those claims but I never thought he would play the biggest role in his demise – so it would appear.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Highhopes...that makes sense! It wouldn't be bad if we could of heard that from someone in the know though...like Rufus. What date did Rufus say the 10q was due on SPR? I want to say he said the 22nd.
I can't wait until everything is golden again and the koolaid is sweeter than ever
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Did anyone get a list of shareholders who attended Saturday’s “shareholder committee” meeting?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Just noticed that anything that was filed after 5:30 has been a form 3 or 4. Not sure if that means you cannot file quarterlys after 5:30 or just that no one does. Makes me think we might be waiting on a PR instead of a report filing. I have to believe something comes out tonight.
TaxBack04 Member
posted 20 November, 2006 18:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.3.1 Hours of Operation
EDGAR accepts filings and changes to company information each business day, Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Transmissions started but not completed by 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time may be canceled, and you may have to re-submit on the next business day.
Ooops... more DD during "basher" hours. I really got to get used to the new schedule.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Did anyone get a list of shareholders who attended Saturday’s “shareholder committee” meeting?
Doesn't anyone besides me think it is strange nothing of substance has been said by any of them. We don't even know who they are except for dogman and he's been quiet.
Posted by frank021474 on :
granted with the bus ride we have had so far with this stock who knows if it will be filed by 10pm.
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Did anyone get a list of shareholders who attended Saturday’s “shareholder committee” meeting?
Doesn't anyone besides me think it is strange nothing of substance has been said by any of them. We don't even know who they are except for dogman and he's been quiet.
Strange and very disturbing to say the least.
Posted by 3403 on :
I have a special discount on Greyhound to D.C. for the emergency shareholders meeting if I can get 40 more people to go with me. $85.00 round trip....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I think prolly, that they know something and decided to be quite about it. if it were something bad I am sure we would have heard something, through pms i have recieved I dont think we have anything to worry about, frustrating to say the least, but we have no choice but to hang in there, I just hope whatever was said in the specail shareholders meeting that none of them bought or sold..
Posted by a surfer on :
On one hand I like the silence from them.
They are not out blabbing.
However unless they have all been hired by the co. this could be considered insider info.
God only knows and is probably scratching his head too.
I am at the point where I really don't give a crap.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I have a special discount on Greyhound to D.C. for the emergency shareholders meeting if I can get 40 more people to go with me. $85.00 round trip....
From where??
I don't ride in buses for long distances anyway.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Can't see a lot of other possibilities why a company would invoke a private gag order on select shareholders other than they had to show them the inner workings behind the curtain.
They wouldn't collectively all decided to go silent- especially some of the overzealous ones that are involved (Not to name names).
A gag order (or "suppression order") is an order, sometimes a legal order by a court or government, other times a private order by an employer or other institution, restricting information or comment from being made public.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
If they didn’t breach the trust or signed NDA they will be fine. That said, it’s a terribly “bush league” way of conducting business.
I would feel more comfortable about the unknown if the known were so dire – pending default judgment, late getting legal counsel, etc…
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: On one hand I like the silence from them.
They are not out blabbing.
However unless they have all been hired by the co. this could be considered insider info.
God only knows and is probably scratching his head too.
I am at the point where I really don't give a crap.
Posted by TimW on :
There was an 8k filed today, no? What was changed? Just those nov 14th events?
Posted by frank021474 on :
It included Randy Mosely departing- the other 8k only had Mike A
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: There was an 8k filed today, no? What was changed? Just those nov 14th events?
yes, no
Posted by cassity on :
Portman, you still around?
Posted by 3403 on :
Mr. Harris stated that nothing has changed from the original business plan of CSHD to include what he stated in his Press Releases. He was very confident in everything that he stated. He said that the appointment of the Nominating and Compensation Committee is our top priority and time is of the essence.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Weird......
Posted by a surfer on :
I kind of feel like a kid peeking through a window trying to find out something.
Is there something naughty going on??
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
yea weird
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: yea weird
yes you are! Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: yea weird
yes you are!
Look who's talkin.... Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Just noticed that anything that was filed after 5:30 has been a form 3 or 4. Not sure if that means you cannot file quarterlys after 5:30 or just that no one does. Makes me think we might be waiting on a PR instead of a report filing. I have to believe something comes out tonight.
"Cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes"
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I honestly have no idea what we closed at today. Maybe ill check before i go to bed.
Thanks for noticin' Cassity. Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Just noticed that anything that was filed after 5:30 has been a form 3 or 4. Not sure if that means you cannot file quarterlys after 5:30 or just that no one does. Makes me think we might be waiting on a PR instead of a report filing. I have to believe something comes out tonight.
LMAO!
"Cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes"
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Here is a list of people i think have entered into the 'gag order'. Please feel free to correct me if you know otherwise.
Dogman TUT JP1 Tanks Portman Tony S. Lady Trader Beeches
Also please add if you think others are involved.
Posted by highhopes on :
Repo, I walked into that one! Posted by 3403 on :
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, To change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. ...
I want Rufus fired....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Here is a list of people i think have entered into the 'gag order'. Please feel free to correct me if you know otherwise.
Dogman TUT JP1 Tanks Portman Tony S. Lady Trader Beeches
Also please add if you think others are involved.
dad roman ??
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
We're screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sceptor? (Phil on HSM)
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: We're screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is that?
Posted by luvforever on :
Posted by etouqe123 on :
Does anyone think SLJB is a bargain at these prices for short term flipping?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: Does anyone think SLJB is a bargain at these prices for short term flipping?
Ya, just like CSHD is!!!!!!!
LMAO
Posted by Jenna on :
I have nothing to say...........just nothing to say.......Good Night All.........
Champagne Wishesssssssssss Blah Blah Blah........
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Bah! Don't go away like that.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I have nothing to say...........just nothing to say.......Good Night All.........
Champagne Wishesssssssssss Blah Blah Blah........
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, To change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. ...
I want Rufus fired....
Are you a friend of Bill W.???
Posted by 3403 on :
Good night Jenna. It's been a tough week.. hugs
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Props on that post Repo. Crappy occasion but good post.
G'night folks.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Is there still a possibility that the 10Q could come out in the morning and be "on time" or are we pretty much just screwed?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Nothing??? Still nothing?
Posted by TimW on :
lol i think thats Jenna's first night that didnt end with the typical champagne and caviar..
Wonder what ever happened to the "hitman" after rufus and his family.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
If it was filed after 5:30PM EST It will not show until processed at 6AM EST.
Still pretty doubtful though....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
no 10-Q, I feel a merger coming... IMO
Posted by Doniboy on :
Whats happening people? Why is everyone upset?
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: no 10-Q, I feel a merger coming... IMO
Any possible reasoning, or just a feeling? lol.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Hell we still haven't finalized the last merger.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: no 10-Q, I feel a merger coming... IMO
Posted by Igor R on :
Nothing happened on SPR tonight, I assume?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: no 10-Q, I feel a merger coming... IMO
Any possible reasoning, or just a feeling? lol.
just a feeling right now..
Posted by TexasMoney on :
You may feel a merger coming but I feel .10 pps in the offing...
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Nothing happened on SPR tonight, I assume?
Nothing interesting
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You may feel a merger coming but I feel .10 pps in the offing...
I agree, probably before we cut into the turkey.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Posted by TexasMoney on :
driver4t4-
While I’m wallowing in my sarcasm for cathartic purpose, I do agree with your “hunch”.
I don’t see anyway out of this other than a merger. It’s the quickest way out of the SEC mess; shed the dead weight and the business model emerges refreshed and focused. I would be surprised if they don’t do this quickly.
My sources OUTSIDE of the company agree.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
TM, it would only make real sense, cshd has become too negative IMO, I am not so sure it will ever trade right again. the assets, bonds, jv's, customers, I am sure want to get down to business, cshd is in hot water, to move the assets, the shareholders go with it, cshd owns 50% of the bonds and 40% of the operating business, if this company is disolved, 50% of the bonds would be delivered to the shareholders for liquidation, thats how I see it, and if something like this came up in a vote I would definatly vote for a merger, but right now it's only speculation. in my opinion.
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
At least we won't be in any trouble for filing late. If through the "investigation" we are taking a second look at what we release, that is a good thing. Far better to be late with no requirement than on time with statements on the fringe. JMHO Rufie (the CEO not the date rape drug) has stated numerous times about his desire to merge and uplist.
I have 1000 shares. I am not banking on this for my future...only beer money invested, but I read this sh!t everyday and am emotionally invested in it. My 1000 shares are worth what 200 bucks? When I moved my money to my brokerage account, I equated it to a cruise I would forego...or one that would be free.
This is however the most babysat and nauseating 200 bucks ever. One Sunday morning I crapped about 200 bucks worth of sushi and saki and felt pretty good about it. I'd like to turn my sushi crap into at least a couple of years at a state school for my three mini me's.
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You may feel a merger coming but I feel .10 pps in the offing...
Think about all that we have been through to this point. How may people have said that they have never seen anything like this before, that they have never been involved in anything so strange, frustrating and, yes, unpredictable. Isn't this what we were promised? Wasn't part of the play always something that no one had ever seen before?
Those looking for a quick buck are along for the ride; those that came into this with eyes wide open knew it was going to be an uphill fight. Some of the bumps were unplanned and many more were meant to be kept secret until the timing was right. As long as we are all here, forget what you think you know and open yourself to the possibility that you have nothing in your past on which to judge what could be happening behind the scenes.
There has been a lot of negative of late, mostly due to lack of information - the same lack of information it would take to organize an effective assault on the market forces that could work against CSHD and its goals. But I remember a time when the sky was the limit. Just because the scales have tipped does not mean all of the positives have suddenly vaporized. Just because the majority of people posting on these boards can only relish in the thought of other's failures does not mean they bear any influence on the events to come.
I choose, based on my own research and business decision, to refrain from judgement against this company until the cards are all on the table.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Thank you Humble...nice post.
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You may feel a merger coming but I feel .10 pps in the offing...
Think about all that we have been through to this point. How may people have said that they have never seen anything like this before, that they have never been involved in anything so strange, frustrating and, yes, unpredictable. Isn't this what we were promised? Wasn't part of the play always something that no one had ever seen before?
Those looking for a quick buck are along for the ride; those that came into this with eyes wide open knew it was going to be an uphill fight. Some of the bumps were unplanned and many more were meant to be kept secret until the timing was right. As long as we are all here, forget what you think you know and open yourself to the possibility that you have nothing in your past on which to judge what could be happening behind the scenes.
There has been a lot of negative of late, mostly due to lack of information - the same lack of information it would take to organize an effective assault on the market forces that could work against CSHD and its goals. But I remember a time when the sky was the limit. Just because the scales have tipped does not mean all of the positives have suddenly vaporized. Just because the majority of people posting on these boards can only relish in the thought of other's failures does not mean they bear any influence on the events to come.
I choose, based on my own research and business decision, to refrain from judgement against this company until the cards are all on the table.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by driver4t4 on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by humble: [QB]
good post, thanks..
Posted by Spooky on :
For the record, I'm not selling the shares I own for a loss. Period. They will either pay for themselves (and maybe a new car) or they can sit in my account to remind me of a story to tell my grandkids.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I am keeping mine too, if we see a dime tomorrow, I will buy 10,000 more shares, that should be enough to wallpaper my office if I need to, otherwise...GO CSHD.
Posted by JHenry on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, To change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. ...
I want Rufus fired....
Are you a friend of Bill W.???
I'm a friend of Bill W. It works if you work it, so work it cause your worth it!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Anyone else log into their brokerage account? See if the balance is different than after close?????
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
What are you saying...you see a difference?
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Anyone else log into their brokerage account? See if the balance is different than after close?????
I have made it a point not to look at my balance lately.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Yes- I have only cshd in this etrade account- I have 10k shares and it was sitting at value 2k (.19 cents or whatever closed) and now the "net assest" value on the front page shows over 20k.
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Yes- I have only cshd in this etrade account- I have 10k shares and it was sitting at value 2k (.19 cents or whatever closed) and now the "net assest" value on the front page shows over 20k.
Mines the opposite, its not even including my cshd asset value, as low as it may be lol.
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
no sh!t.. ? Liquidate now!
I have scotty and no such luck. Omen, premonition, typo...who knows. Wish I had a typo.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Anyone else log into their brokerage account? See if the balance is different than after close?????
Mine still shows what it usually does.
Posted by frank021474 on :
The portfolio shows the same as usual- but the net asset on the welcome page which fluctuates all day during trading (before the portfolio prices are tracked) is showing the increase value.
I verified with another etrade user just now its showing a net asset value for the stock at 2.20pps. WTF is going on?
I took a screen shot to save once I find more to verify!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Great post and I do agree with you. I think what you’ve witnessed the past few days is a reflection of shareholder’s concern and confusion. I too stand behind my DD and will go down with the ship, but I will do so laughing not crying.
I sincerely respect you taking the high road, remaining quite until all the cards are on the table.
I hope you don’t view my rants as anything more than a cathartic release of frustration. And, man have I been frustrated lately, but still hopeful.
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You may feel a merger coming but I feel .10 pps in the offing...
Think about all that we have been through to this point. How may people have said that they have never seen anything like this before, that they have never been involved in anything so strange, frustrating and, yes, unpredictable. Isn't this what we were promised? Wasn't part of the play always something that no one had ever seen before?
Those looking for a quick buck are along for the ride; those that came into this with eyes wide open knew it was going to be an uphill fight. Some of the bumps were unplanned and many more were meant to be kept secret until the timing was right. As long as we are all here, forget what you think you know and open yourself to the possibility that you have nothing in your past on which to judge what could be happening behind the scenes.
There has been a lot of negative of late, mostly due to lack of information - the same lack of information it would take to organize an effective assault on the market forces that could work against CSHD and its goals. But I remember a time when the sky was the limit. Just because the scales have tipped does not mean all of the positives have suddenly vaporized. Just because the majority of people posting on these boards can only relish in the thought of other's failures does not mean they bear any influence on the events to come.
I choose, based on my own research and business decision, to refrain from judgement against this company until the cards are all on the table.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Is there still a possibility that the 10Q could come out in the morning and be "on time" or are we pretty much just screwed?
I thought I told you to just sit back and enjoy your kool-aid sis! Instead, your bashing our stock! LOL Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: The portfolio shows the same as usual- but the net asset on the welcome page which fluctuates all day during trading (before the portfolio prices are tracked) is showing the increase value.
I verified with another etrade user just now its showing a net asset value for the stock at 2.20pps. WTF is going on?
I took a screen shot to save once I find more to verify!
Hmm, I've got Etrade as well, but im not seeing this. Will keep checking periodically.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
WHOA, my etrade says I have a ton of cash in there too!!! but when i go to positions it shows the real value, any one see if there are any MM's signed up?
Posted by frank021474 on :
Driver- mine just went back to normal. I did get a screen capture of the 2.20pps value. Wonder what the heck is going on?
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: WHOA, my etrade says I have a ton of cash in there too!!! but when i go to positions it shows the real value, any one see if there are any MM's signed up?
How can we check?
Posted by frank021474 on :
multiply your sharecount by 2.20 and see if it matched
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Is there still a possibility that the 10Q could come out in the morning and be "on time" or are we pretty much just screwed?
I thought I told you to just sit back and enjoy your kool-aid sis! Instead, your bashing our stock! LOL
I'm done with the kool-aid! I'm moving on to the jager! Posted by frank021474 on :
Driver- did you calculate it? I want to see if 3 people had the same multiplier.
Probably nothing but dang- its better than wondering WHY we haven't seen any filings LOL
Posted by trade04 on :
good thing RUfus is getting MMs to buy our shares from 15 Up
lol....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: multiply your sharecount by 2.20 and see if it matched
yes it did, even with the new shares I bought last week.. wow, cant wait for the price to get back to that.. still say's 2.20 a share, wierd, nothing changed on the streamer either.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
my lowtrade account say's .19 man, wierd.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Is there still a possibility that the 10Q could come out in the morning and be "on time" or are we pretty much just screwed?
]they dont need to be on time there on the frickin greys.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Lol they don't even need to come out at all!
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
If we have 4 mm's dying to be the first, why is nobody stepping up! Not a basher, just frustrated!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: If we have 4 mm's dying to be the first, why is nobody stepping up! Not a basher, just frustrated!
because it isn't true and just giving you faith. why do you think Rufus told everyone to get your certs. So you cant sell out!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Etrade mind games- show the etrade holders (verified with 3 other accounts) 2.20pps at midnight and wake up to .19 LOL
Thats enough to drive someone batty Posted by got2hvfaith on :
I don't have certs. so I can sell for maybe .10 tomorrow.j/k I'm still "keeping the faith" until we are at .0000 (which I hope doesn't happen!)
Posted by CRab on :
haha...my etrade is showing a higher total account value as well...that is odd...
Posted by Chart walker on :
Scotty and OptionXpress no higher total... darn! lol ~
That would be a nice surprise Posted by frank021474 on :
lol crab- I bet its 2.20pps
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I'm going to have to admit that I'm a little confused by that document. It reads like a damn declassified intelligence doc...certain things blocked out and all. Some good things were said though, so all in all, I guess I can say I'm pleased, a little confused but pleased.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I don't like the "But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company."
Speaking of the 10-q
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: If we have 4 mm's dying to be the first, why is nobody stepping up! Not a basher, just frustrated!
because it isn't true and just giving you faith. why do you think Rufus told everyone to get your certs. So you cant sell out!
I have my cert, which is why I have refrained from posting lately, I couldn't sell if I wanted to. I believe in my DD and I have faith in my investment. If it doesn't work out, I'll chalk it up as an expensive lesson. In the end, it was my decision to invest money in this company, I refuse to whine or make excuses for my choices. GLTA
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: I'm going to have to admit that I'm a little confused by that document. It reads like a damn declassified intelligence doc...certain things blocked out and all. Some good things were said though, so all in all, I guess I can say I'm pleased, a little confused but pleased.
trust me your not pleased...its an illusion...i read it and felt good at first just because of the fact that rufus communicated..but by the tim ei finished i thought to myself...what a joke...
sounds like this court thing is more serious than we though, and will drag on...apparantly rufus is NOW taking this seriously and piling on the lawyers...lmao joke
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by CRab: I'm going to have to admit that I'm a little confused by that document. It reads like a damn declassified intelligence doc...certain things blocked out and all. Some good things were said though, so all in all, I guess I can say I'm pleased, a little confused but pleased.
trust me your not pleased...its an illusion...i read it and felt good at first just because of the fact that rufus communicated..but by the tim ei finished i thought to myself...what a joke...
sounds like this court thing is more serious than we though, and will drag on...apparantly rufus is NOW taking this seriously and piling on the lawyers...lmao joke
lol....this is all a BS game...while shares are slowly dumped...whose dumping? hint hint..
Posted by driver4t4 on :
oh man trade, LOL, oh man, all i can say is hahaha, I love your honesty..
Posted by frank021474 on :
k time for Zzzzzzz- see what tomorrow brings.
Posted by thedoctor on :
I think this is a very good reason why the 10Q cannot be issued out at this time. RUFUS signed that injunction not to do anything possibly fraudulent. The court case that the SEC brought about is looking at the bonds. If the 10Q contains those as assets. Then the SEC could file a motion for seizure saying that Rufus is again posting fruadulent filings even though they aren't. Its definetly the CSHD lawyers giving this advice. Releasing the 10Q would be too much of a gamble at this time.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: k time for Zzzzzzz- see what tomorrow brings.
hopefully a morphine drip...nite all
Posted by portman on :
*yawn* nite nite...
Posted by driver4t4 on :
post from tut : I will tell you what and listen very good. I was asked not to post because of another duty but I decided to come back regardless of my other duty because I said I would not desert the shareholders here. As for my and my groups holdings you will never see them but they are larger than you have learned how to count. I and my groups are in here on the same side with all the long shareholders. Certain posters on here do know that also. I am fighting for the shareholders in "certain other duties". If you think I should stop fighting for them then you tell them that.
Posted by highhopes on :
Having read the note from Rufus and the Tut post my opinion is:
Things have spun out of control for Rufus and he is desperately trying to work his way out. Whereas for a long time things were portrayed as completely in control, it is clear they no longer are. This is not something I can DD or influence in any way. Rufus believes strongly that he has a viable business model that is being in some way disabled, illegally, by the markets. He is confident that he and the shareholders will ultimately be vindicated. I hope he is right.
Personally I do not like to be involved with things I do not understand and I am not feeling real good about this investment. However my option would be to dump shares and feel just slightly better should it turn out that company tanks. I suppose I could also choose to come on to the boards and pound the people that are still invested with funny clip art and foul language but you would have to be a real loser to do that.
So for me the best path is to hang on, trust that Rufus is truly doing what he can, support the shareholder committee if they ask, and see if this can still turn out OK.
So I guess I have CSHD under my skin, and I am hoping for Rufus to pull a little of that old black magic out. Right now it is all or nothing!
Posted by a surfer on :
larger than I have learned how to count...........
1.2.3.4.5.6 whats next
High Hopes I am in the same boat.
if played out, the next week in this process is going to be a big learning curve for everybody. So – and they’ll be happy with it. There is no negative result.
interesting timeframe. Suggests to me that a merger is a possibility. hmmm with a bank??
Everyone have a fabtabulous day!!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Wow, our next, .. I mean Tut seemed pissed...
Wonder what is happening behind the scenes?
Morning Board!!
Posted by portman on :
Chart - Tut was pretty much called out by a frustrated shareholder. Which is understandable at this point. I mean there can't be a single shareholder who is not incredibly frustrated at this point.
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: post from tut : I will tell you what and listen very good. I was asked not to post because of another duty but I decided to come back regardless of my other duty because I said I would not desert the shareholders here. As for my and my groups holdings you will never see them but they are larger than you have learned how to count. I and my groups are in here on the same side with all the long shareholders. Certain posters on here do know that also. I am fighting for the shareholders in "certain other duties". If you think I should stop fighting for them then you tell them that.
So what Tut is saying is that he is doing something secret for the shareholders, but if we want him to stop it he will. And he has more shares than anyone can imagine. Well, I can imagine holding around 200 million shares. Is that more than I can count? Oh, and he also is saying that only some shareholders are in the know, and we should be telling them what we want Tut to be doing, even though we don't know who is in the know.
Azzclown.
Posted by portman on :
BTW...I am always interested in logical, well thought out items longs think the company needs to address. Rants sent to me will be redirected to /dev/null.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Chart - Tut was pretty much called out by a frustrated shareholder. Which is understandable at this point. I mean there can't be a single shareholder who is not incredibly frustrated at this point.
Oh I'm SURE of that...
Hell WE get enough of that here!
Oh well, what I have I'm holding on to Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: post from tut : I will tell you what and listen very good. I was asked not to post because of another duty but I decided to come back regardless of my other duty because I said I would not desert the shareholders here. As for my and my groups holdings you will never see them but they are larger than you have learned how to count. I and my groups are in here on the same side with all the long shareholders. Certain posters on here do know that also. I am fighting for the shareholders in "certain other duties". If you think I should stop fighting for them then you tell them that.
So what Tut is saying is that he is doing something secret for the shareholders, but if we want him to stop it he will. And he has more shares than anyone can imagine. Well, I can imagine holding around 200 million shares. Is that more than I can count? Oh, and he also is saying that only some shareholders are in the know, and we should be telling them what we want Tut to be doing, even though we don't know who is in the know.
Azzclown.
What he said was certain posters know that he is on the side of long shareholders.
A better advocate you will be hard to find. I was one who thought he was just fun to read in the beginning.
Posted by Chart walker on :
I'll back you on that Portman...
He leaves, we are dead in the water IMO...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well that explains the late 10-Q. Now let's see what happens today. Should be interesting. Posted by luvforever on :
Quote: Originally Posted by TonySoprano Tut is, without a doubt, the one of the strongest advocates for every shareholder within the CSHD community. He has stuck his neck out for each of us far beyond anything required or expected.
As for me, I decided yesterday that the methods chosen by the CEO are so inconsistent with my principles that I would no longer be actively involved with the Shareholder's committee in an advisory role. I remain a shareholder, and have no plans to consider selling a single share until such time as the stock returns to a regular exchange AND provides something reasonably close to a valuation that is consistent with the assets.
While I cannot disclose the exact reasons for my decision due to Confidentiality constraints I would recommend that each of you read the lastest update from the Shareholder's committee and draw your own conclusions, at least for now, based on what I have posted in the past:
I hope for the best for everyone in this and share with each of you the frustration regarding this situation.
Tony,
Posted by luvforever on :
so whats everyones take on this, with Tony? I think Rufas is gonna take the long way around and he will get us there, but he needs the shareholders support? If he told us this then I think a lot of peeps would bail, but I really believe if you stay in he is gonna rewrd those who didn't bail my opinion, in the long run...call me crazy but I really think Rufas has a plan, but he wont be able to do it without the shareholders, let me think about this for awhile....I'll come up with something. LOL Posted by NEL on :
My Fidelity account shows CSHD as no longer a valid symbol? Anyone else?
Posted by Chart walker on :
Everything seems fine with Scotty...
Posted by NEL on :
Thanks Chart, Fidelity tends to flip flop with this before trading (not just on CSHD either).
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by NEL: My Fidelity account shows CSHD as no longer a valid symbol? Anyone else?
Mine shows CSHD but for some reason the Net Asset value is still 2.20pps for Etrade. So my account looks alot better off than it is.
I checked that out with a few other etraders last night- apparently they have something messed up in the streamer or something.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
My Fidelity account also shows invalid symbol. However, the balance is still listed in my account (though very tiny now!
jo
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Good morning board!
Ahah, another TUT sighting (I consider that good).
News on the CSHD Shareholder Board (also good). Seems like the water is starting to flow again even though it's just a trickle at this point.
Come on RUFUS...Give us some good news!
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning everyone.
Posted by new2stocks on :
morning board.
Posted by highhopes on :
Vanguard shows the same as it did before. Also a very small balance!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Watch BANY today... On top of yesterday's 400%....
Rufus take note!!! lol Posted by Doniboy on :
Good morning folks.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
everyone always remember that the shareholder committe is working hard to get some things done for the shareholders so please take the time to register on the site and plz help in any way you can and read the update from James Gee.
Posted by milliam on :
FWIW...that bid/ask that has been posting on TDA is now gone (well its 0.00 now). Don't have a clue if that means anything, but it is a change.
I'm glad we got somewhat of an update from the shareholders committee. Sounds interesting...like this thing always is.
As sands through the hourglass....
Posted by Doniboy on :
Is there a link to the shareholder committee update?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: FWIW...that bid/ask that has been posting on TDA is now gone (well its 0.00 now). Don't have a clue if that means anything, but it is a change.
I'm glad we got somewhat of an update from the shareholders committee. Sounds interesting...like this thing always is.
As sands through the hourglass....
And etrade showing the PPS Value on Net asset at 2.20$
Thought they would have fixed it by now. Been that way since late last night.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
cshdshareholdercommitte.com
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
At .15/share it will have to go up 1,250% to get back to the pre-halt PPS! Posted by Doniboy on :
well sljb is trying to get back up. Maybe we can follow Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: At .15/share it will have to go up 1,250% to get back to the pre-halt PPS!
Well why arent you doing your part to help out.. the committee says we must help.
Cmon everyone, visit your local CVSU coffee shop to drop off canned-goods and gently used or new winter coats.
Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning, this is off topic- sljb ceo is stepping down, looks like confidence is returning the pps is rising.
Do not buy on my opinion, and don't chasten me for mentioning it. thank you.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Good morning, this is off topic- sljb ceo is stepping down, looks like confidence is returning the pps is rising.
Do not buy on my opinion, and don't chasten me for mentioning it. thank you.
Show up 200%. Dont worry the current CEO will step down in 2 weeks and had it back over to him after verifying things. I heard thats how it works??
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Good morning, this is off topic- sljb ceo is stepping down, looks like confidence is returning the pps is rising.
Do not buy on my opinion, and don't chasten me for mentioning it. thank you.
Show up 200%. Dont worry the current CEO will step down in 2 weeks and had it back over to him after verifying things. I heard thats how it works??
Ya, the new CEO will evaluate the next 2 weeks and come to the conclusion that he can't BONE the shareholders as good as him, so he'll resign and Petar will be back.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Good morning, this is off topic- sljb ceo is stepping down, looks like confidence is returning the pps is rising.
Do not buy on my opinion, and don't chasten me for mentioning it. thank you.
Show up 200%. Dont worry the current CEO will step down in 2 weeks and had it back over to him after verifying things. I heard thats how it works??
ha ha ~
-was just looking at that with New2! Good for them!
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning Board ... like what I hear through the shareholders committee. It is time to understand quiet times and, behind the scenes action ... just like the duck on water - all looks quiet from above but underneath the water that ducks big webbed feet are going fast and strong ... just like Rufus, etal., attorneys, shareholders, etc.
I also like the idea of a merger ... seems like a good set-up for it. I remain attached to the assets ... all the remainder is the wrapping. IMHO. Have a good day all!
Posted by 6digits on :
HAHAAAAAAAAA. OK sorry I mentioned it, if it doubles i'll sell.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Good Morning Board ... like what I hear through the shareholders committee. It is time to understand quiet times and, behind the scenes action ... just like the duck on water - all looks quiet from above but underneath the water that ducks big webbed feet are going fast and strong ... just like Rufus, etal., attorneys, shareholders, etc.
I also like the idea of a merger ... seems like a good set-up for it. I remain attached to the assets ... all the remainder is the wrapping. IMHO. Have a good day all!
Best post so far imo they are really working hard staying on the phone all times of the day to protect our best interest.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
Posted by IronGuillotine on :
Hey guys - Some of you already know me from the other boards, some do not... Just wanted to introduce myself for those that don't... You guys run a nice board and that is the reason I have registered here... BTW... I am very LONG and STRONG CSHD!!!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider:
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Good Morning Board ... like what I hear through the shareholders committee. It is time to understand quiet times and, behind the scenes action ... just like the duck on water - all looks quiet from above but underneath the water that ducks big webbed feet are going fast and strong ... just like Rufus, etal., attorneys, shareholders, etc.
I also like the idea of a merger ... seems like a good set-up for it. I remain attached to the assets ... all the remainder is the wrapping. IMHO. Have a good day all!
Best post so far imo they are really working hard staying on the phone all times of the day to protect our best interest.
...and not sleeping...no one sleeps with this stock...
Posted by 6digits on :
Thats good to hear and the least you would think would be done to protect such valuable assets with some reason and logic and expertise on the part of attorneys and such. My opinion is the SEC needs to be brought down and brought down hard. A counter suit down the road for damages would be within reason as far as i'm concerned.
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider:
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Good Morning Board ... like what I hear through the shareholders committee. It is time to understand quiet times and, behind the scenes action ... just like the duck on water - all looks quiet from above but underneath the water that ducks big webbed feet are going fast and strong ... just like Rufus, etal., attorneys, shareholders, etc.
I also like the idea of a merger ... seems like a good set-up for it. I remain attached to the assets ... all the remainder is the wrapping. IMHO. Have a good day all!
Best post so far imo they are really working hard staying on the phone all times of the day to protect our best interest.
Posted by wv1973 on :
Quote: Originally Posted by TonySoprano Tut is, without a doubt, the one of the strongest advocates for every shareholder within the CSHD community. He has stuck his neck out for each of us far beyond anything required or expected.
As for me, I decided yesterday that the methods chosen by the CEO are so inconsistent with my principles that I would no longer be actively involved with the Shareholder's committee in an advisory role. I remain a shareholder, and have no plans to consider selling a single share until such time as the stock returns to a regular exchange AND provides something reasonably close to a valuation that is consistent with the assets.
While I cannot disclose the exact reasons for my decision due to Confidentiality constraints I would recommend that each of you read the lastest update from the Shareholder's committee and draw your own conclusions, at least for now, based on what I have posted in the past:
Best post so far imo. this really shows what an insider sees as some of the leadership problems and not being of "principle."
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by IronGuillotine: Hey guys - Some of you already know me from the other boards, some do not... Just wanted to introduce myself for those that don't... You guys run a nice board and that is the reason I have registered here... BTW... I am very LONG and STRONG CSHD!!!
Welcome Iron Guillotine.....
Posted by 6digits on :
Go Festus go!!
Posted by madmoney on :
this so called " share holders commitee " is probably illeagle,if they are not registered with the company officialy and are alluding to " secret info " that could be considered insider information and as such posting even a veiled rumor may be a violation of the insider trading rules, could be construed as stock manipulation. I hope they have all contacted some decent lawyers before jumping into this thing. one guy has already bailed! ( smart move IMO ) this whole thing stinks!!
Posted by Jenna on :
Jenna's Christmas List:
1 Merger
1 Fresh (in for the long run) CEO - (I like Rufus but he is more interested in sticking it to the naked shorters than helping the shareholders)
1 end to the court case
1 or more MM's
1 move to back to OTCBB
1 starting quote that brings us back to AT LEAST where we ended at
I would appreciate that Santa - After that -The rest is up to us.............
The question is - Is there a Santa Clause?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Jenna's Christmas List:
1 Merger
1 Fresh (in for the long run) CEO - (I like Rufus but he is more interested in sticking it to the naked shorters than helping the shareholders)
1 end to the court case
1 or more MM's
1 move to back to OTCBB
1 starting quote that brings us back to AT LEAST where we ended at
I would appreciate that Santa - After that -The rest is up to us.............
The question is - Is there a Santa Clause?
There's a "Santa Claus", but not sure about "Santa ClausE"... is that extra "E" at the end the symbol for fraud Jolly Fat Men, like "E" represents fraud stocks?
Posted by highhopes on :
Jenna, what about a gift certificate to Wegmans? That I know I can do.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
My fidelity account just updated and now shows my shares as being worth $1.99. If only.....
Jo
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Jenna's Christmas List:
1 Merger
1 Fresh (in for the long run) CEO - (I like Rufus but he is more interested in sticking it to the naked shorters than helping the shareholders)
1 end to the court case
1 or more MM's
1 move to back to OTCBB
1 starting quote that brings us back to AT LEAST where we ended at
I would appreciate that Santa - After that -The rest is up to us.............
The question is - Is there a Santa Clause?
Nice post Jenna..
And yes there is a Santa! Hasn't anyone told you he lives "NORTH" of here! I live in Wisconsin, so that must mean Canada! Posted by luvforever on :
Jenna ...ummm cough...aren't ...in shaky voice~~ ~aren't~you ~asking~ for ~a ~miracle? ~~for~~ Christmas? ~~~ Gotcha LOL j/k But imo it could happen after ole rufas gets the shorts...seems that is what he wants first before he moves on Posted by 3403 on :
Jenna, leave out milk and cookies
Posted by cassity on :
Hey port, you've got mail my friend. Thanks
Posted by 6digits on :
frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Posted by Doniboy on :
Scottrade is acting up today. I can't get any new symbols on my ticker.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Posted by 3403 on :
If I were convinced we owned the bonds none of this would matter. Liquidation or Nasdq we would come out all right, with a new CEO. Rufus did mention we need a suit and tie CEO and he is right about that.
Posted by 3403 on :
This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Posted by 3403 on :
"How can we listen to what Rufus says, when what Rufus does rings so loudly in our ears"
Posted by Gullible on :
Good Morning board. Just FYI I called E Trade about incorrect account balances. Finally got through to "Technical Support", and they told me that everything was fine with the stock, (CSHD) but they were having trouble with some of their servers. Took down information about my server number, and promised to forward it to the right department.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Anyone checked PACER recently.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Anyone checked PACER recently.
yes, nothing new.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
TM ~ at one point durring my bond DD I thought I had found a list of names that would make up the Caracas Group. I still maintain that they are somehow tied to The Andean Development Corporation (CAF) at www.caf.com.
As you know Caracas is the most oil rich region of Venezeula, and the largest portion of the money in that region was created by an oil company PDVSA which was absorbed into the government by Hugo Chavez. This is the same oil conglomerate that removed him from prower briefly, and is still holding most of the coin in the country even though it officially no longer exists. By the way both signatures on the $500M bond were from BCV employees that have ties to PDVSA, and Torres the 2nd Vice President of BCV has an email address to CAF.
It is a big puzzle, but I originally ran across CAF when looking at who owns the rights to carbon credits and log harvesting in the Amazon. FWIW there is way too many "ifs" and spanish/portugese documents in all of this to be anything but speculation rather than fact at this point. I suggest you do some digging yourself. Oh well FWIW IMO Posted by 6digits on :
OK chart I know what you mean, thanks for looking out for us.
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday
Posted by frank021474 on :
I can't say I like JP1's post about thinking that washington DC next month was going to be our chance at getting in front of congressional committee or whatever the exact verbage was-
Has anyone else heard anything like that? Of course the next line was "perhaps it will be handled by then" so who knows what the heck this plan is shaping up to be.
Who is going to be sitting listening to a penny stock company in washington DC on a Sunday before christmas? Besides a bunch of freezing cold shareholders?
Is there something scheduled- some sort of hearing on SUNDAY the 17th? Is it a protest or what?
I still hold- and wait. Just trying to figure out what the plan really is!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: frpt is crashing hard today. Good thing we did'nt listen to yesterdays advice would have already lost a buck a share and the winner would be here telling us about fraud and scamsters to boot. Double whammy. The Grinch is a tough one.
Lots of stocks will drop...few traders this close to the holidays.
Correct, called "Holiday effect" for those who want to research it...
--and as far as FRPT goes, if you check the thread I'm keeping everyone safe, everyone was alerted of a pullback yesterday
well aren't you just mr. protector! lol j/k Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I can have my wife review the spanish/portugese documents if you like.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
TM ~ at one point durring my bond DD I thought I had found a list of names that would make up the Caracas Group. I still maintain that they are somehow tied to The Andean Development Corporation (CAF) at www.caf.com.
As you know Caracas is the most oil rich region of Venezeula, and the largest portion of the money in that region was created by an oil company PDVSA which was absorbed into the government by Hugo Chavez. This is the same oil conglomerate that removed him from prower briefly, and is still holding most of the coin in the country even though it officially no longer exists. By the way both signatures on the $500M bond were from BCV employees that have ties to PDVSA, and Torres the 2nd Vice President of BCV has an email address to CAF.
It is a big puzzle, but I originally ran across CAF when looking at who owns the rights to carbon credits and log harvesting in the Amazon. FWIW there is way too many "ifs" and spanish/portugese documents in all of this to be anything but speculation rather than fact at this point. I suggest you do some digging yourself. Oh well FWIW IMO
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I can't say I like JP1's post about thinking that washington DC next month was going to be our chance at getting in front of congressional committee or whatever the exact verbage was-
Has anyone else heard anything like that? Of course the next line was "perhaps it will be handled by then" so who knows what the heck this plan is shaping up to be.
Who is going to be sitting listening to a penny stock company in washington DC on a Sunday before christmas? Besides a bunch of freezing cold shareholders?
Is there something scheduled- some sort of hearing on SUNDAY the 17th? Is it a protest or what?
I still hold- and wait. Just trying to figure out what the plan really is!
comgress wont be in session, we will be talking to ourselves!
Posted by 6digits on :
Chevy, I have enjoyed your posts, because they have been informative. I read them a lot at ihub. I think the bonds are good but I can't totally prove it. If they are'nt Rufus is the biggest nut of the century. I agree that things were and could be moving a long much smoother had not the SEC came along with their uneducated assumptions as to the validity of the bonds. It is a relief to hear that Rufus is taking steps now to defend this company through more experienced channels. Possibly if he had'nt consulted an lawyer the SEC would have already owned our stock.
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Good Morning board. Just FYI I called E Trade about incorrect account balances. Finally got through to "Technical Support", and they told me that everything was fine with the stock, (CSHD) but they were having trouble with some of their servers. Took down information about my server number, and promised to forward it to the right department.
Thanks Gull. You are the nicest guy on this board...
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I disagree. Call me naive but the DD I have done and read still leads me to believe the bond ownership is real. My question is why what was the purpose of the bond ownership. Was it really for business purposes or perhaps another purpose? If it was for business purposes and Rufus is now on a personal crusade, is it possible he would be in default of that contract.
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
You are right... I doubt it was a moron at all that allowed him to sign the contracts. Have you seen the contracts? I know I haven't. Contracts that layout Conversion Solutions usage rights, and terms. I bet they got a great deal. 50% profits is pretty excessive, I wonder what else may be included. A country with a shady past willing to deal with an American with political ties and a Southern drawl. Hmmmm... I wonder if it is because they are not allowed to do business here, but know that this is where the money is? You really should look at the global politics behind our relationship with Venezuela. Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
What moron you ask. Chavez and his cronies. Don't get bigger morons than that.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
What moron you ask. Chavez and his cronies. Don't get bigger morons than that.
That’s about as deep as a Tiger Wood’s divot off the tee.
Posted by 3403 on :
Some people made money in Amway... I think 2% of the members.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by tanks aka chevyrider:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: This is no longer about Rufus and his battles. It is about OUR investments and OUR company. Even if it means replacing the General.
Your point is what?
People really seem to amaze me. You want all the goods but do you understand that Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them.
Mr. Harris if there is anything I can do to help the situation please let me know.
If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem imo.
now this is a new one. lol "now your part of the problem" hahaha. ""if you don't like it sell", "did you do your DD". haha list is funny.
Posted by 3403 on :
"Mr. Harris hasn't done anything wrong and the crooks want this delayed because they know what effect this will have on them".
What crooks? Mr. Harris hasn't done ANYTHING RIGHT.
Posted by 6digits on :
If there is any chance that CSHD will merge with anybody they will have to be convinced that the bonds are real. Other wise what would CSHD have to bring to the table. Obvious no brainer. It's boring doing this waiting. But i'm glad to hear that something is suppsed to be getting done.
Posted by 3403 on :
Oh, maybe the crooks will be the guys who sold him the bonds. Not real, but Mr. Harris didn't know that.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Oh, maybe the crooks will be the guys who sold him the bonds. Not real, but Mr. Harris didn't know that.
Great Defense.
Posted by frank021474 on :
3403- step away from the keyboard- your starting to talk to yourself Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: 3403- step away from the keyboard- your starting to talk to yourself
LOL! thinking the same thing. Funny how that happens when people start ignoring them.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: If there is any chance that CSHD will merge with anybody they will have to be convinced that the bonds are real. Other wise what would CSHD have to bring to the table. Obvious no brainer. It's boring doing this waiting. But i'm glad to hear that something is suppsed to be getting done.
if the bonds are monetized, and he funds our jv's, i believe all is good, but why is he not hypothicating them ??, easy solution, and for all we know he might be doing just that, but if we wait until december 17 to march on the whitehouse lawn, we can pick these share up off the ground... he needs to quit playing games.. lol
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Next thing you know they are jerking their head arounds saying... "Who said that?"... "Is anyone there?"... "You talking to me?"
Posted by cassity on :
I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: 3403- step away from the keyboard- your starting to talk to yourself ;)
LOL. I know, this is making me crazy....
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Next thing you know they are jerking their head arounds saying... "Who said that?"... "Is anyone there?"... "You talking to me?"
LOL like stevie wonder...
Posted by 3403 on :
All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
I don't have it either, if you find out can ya tell me? Thanks!
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
yes, I would too.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
I don't have it either, if you find out can ya tell me? Thanks!
Nobody likes me enough to tell me! LOL Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
yes, I would too.
lmao, 3403, we are going to be fine, just dont think santa is going to make it by christmas, maybe march or something.. Posted by 3403 on :
3403 do you think Rufus was duped by unscrupulous foreigners?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
All due respect, you ARE naive. No one's going to give $7B to some random businessman named Rufus Paul Harris. Do you all not realize just how much money that is?!?
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: I disagree. Call me naive but the DD I have done and read still leads me to believe the bond ownership is real. My question is why what was the purpose of the bond ownership. Was it really for business purposes or perhaps another purpose? If it was for business purposes and Rufus is now on a personal crusade, is it possible he would be in default of that contract.
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: This board is hands down the best when it comes to in depth DD. Nevertheless, there is one aspect of this whole CSHD saga that I have not seen anyone discuss in detail.
Who gives a cowboy 7 BILLION dollars (US)? Who specifically is the “Caracas Group”? If they gave Rufus bond ownership for business purposes wouldn’t the contract be detailed enough to prevent “reckless” conduct with those funds? If so, is he at risk of default on that contract?
Look at the JVs and partnerships. Almost all of them are vapor. Hardly any effort was put forth to develop the JVs or development of CSHD itself. Even when Rufus was on subpennyradio most of his discussion and passion was about NSS, how it burned him with BBAN, and his desire to correct the problem.
Is it possible that this was an architected attempt to use the system against itself? This business model certainly fits the theory. We don’t make anything, currently don’t service anyone, and just sit on a well of cash. The overhead is so low that you have a CEO working out of his house and one other person as a conduit to the bond ownership.
So, you create a $hit storm in the market place with outlandish asset claims, draw the speculative investors in, keep them content with information, stir up the doubters, chum the water, watch the NSS sharks feed; trap set, go for the kill.
Master conspirator? Perhaps! Idiot business man? Perhaps!
HHAHAAHAHA you hit it right on the nail! What moron is going to give an unsucessful businessman with a shady past all these bonds without any prior success. Thats common sense right there, and the reason that this has become such a joke.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 3403 do you think Rufus was duped by unscrupulous foreigners?
That could very well be the case, and the only logical reason Mr. Harris and us continue to believe they are real. This could be a very good defense for Mr. Harris, and it will be difficult to convict the foreigners. Mr. Harris would then be free to start another company, hopefully being far more careful next time.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
I agree with both of you... "if" the bonds are not real. Difference is I have looked deep enough, "I have zero doubt in their validity."
Posted by frank021474 on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: [QB] All due respect, you ARE naive. No one's going to give $7B to some random businessman named Rufus Paul Harris. Do you all not realize just how much money that is?!?
You play that out on your comment like someone just handed him 7B dollars for a business. Its not liquid!
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
...Singing... I got some Ocean-front property in Arizona ...
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
I agree with both of you... "if" the bonds are not real. Difference is I have looked deep enough, "I have zero doubt in their validity."
Yes they are real, but were they sold by people who actually had the power to sell them, and did we actually buy them?
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: 3403 do you think Rufus was duped by unscrupulous foreigners?
That could very well be the case, and the only logical reason Mr. Harris and us continue to believe they are real. This could be a very good defense for Mr. Harris, and it will be difficult to convict the foreigners. Mr. Harris would then be free to start another company, hopefully being far more careful next time.
of course IF this were the case RPH might slide but our money would also vanish, without the bonds we have no value.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: 3403- step away from the keyboard- your starting to talk to yourself
Roses are red, violets are blue. I'm a schizophrenic, -and so am I!!
LOL ~~ Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: [QB] All due respect, you ARE naive. No one's going to give $7B to some random businessman named Rufus Paul Harris. Do you all not realize just how much money that is?!?
You play that out on your comment like someone just handed him 7B dollars for a business. Its not liquid!
No one's going to make BONDS to some random failed businessman for $7B.
Posted by 3403 on :
It takes a contract with consideration (usually money)for that contract to be legit. We don't have any money, never did as far as I can see.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
I agree with both of you... "if" the bonds are not real. Difference is I have looked deep enough, "I have zero doubt in their validity."
Yes they are real, but were they sold by people who actually had the power to sell them, and did we actually buy them?
Yes and Yes... very confident to answer of both of those questions.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
I agree with both of you... "if" the bonds are not real. Difference is I have looked deep enough, "I have zero doubt in their validity."
Yes they are real, but were they sold by people who actually had the power to sell them, and did we actually buy them?
Yes and Yes... very confident to answer of both of those questions.
I feel better, thanks...
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: All silliness aside. If the bonds are not real whether Mr. Harris knew it or not the company needs to be shut down before any more innocent people loose their money. I'll accept the loss to save others.
I agree with both of you... "if" the bonds are not real. Difference is I have looked deep enough, "I have zero doubt in their validity."
Yes they are real, but were they sold by people who actually had the power to sell them, and did we actually buy them?
Yes and Yes... very confident to answer of both of those questions.
I feel better, thanks...
I meant to say, WE feel better, thanks.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: [QB] All due respect, you ARE naive. No one's going to give $7B to some random businessman named Rufus Paul Harris. Do you all not realize just how much money that is?!?
You play that out on your comment like someone just handed him 7B dollars for a business. Its not liquid!
No one's going to make BONDS to some random failed businessman for $7B.
Show your research, because my research does not show him as failed. BBAN issue was a dispute that went to "no end". Other leads beyond that do not seem failed. Greenleaf was the only other published issue in RPH's history and that was explained to many's satisfaction when he was asked about it. Placing $1 or $1 million into a defaulted checking acount is not a smart deal in any situation. Even if the decrepid golf resort was a steal. Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
I don't have it either, if you find out can ya tell me? Thanks!
Nobody likes me enough to tell me! LOL
PM an active MOD on PT and they will give it to you.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
I don't have it either, if you find out can ya tell me? Thanks!
Nobody likes me enough to tell me! LOL
PM an active MOD on PT and they will give it to you.
How do ya do that????
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I forgot the new paltalk password, can someone shoot me a PM. Thanks
I don't have it either, if you find out can ya tell me? Thanks!
Nobody likes me enough to tell me! LOL
PM an active MOD on PT and they will give it to you.
I tried that once and they didn't respond. lol
Posted by Chart walker on :
"Nerds!!" LMAO!! Posted by 3403 on :
I am 3403's soon to be X-wife Anita. It is amazing to me how he got tied up in this thing. In our 15 years he has always made good decessions and has been a great provider. Now he is history. Good luck to all of you, and keep an eye on him for me.... Anita
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: I am 3403's soon to be X-wife Anita. It is amazing to me how he got tied up in this thing. In our 15 years he has always made good decessions and has been a great provider. Now he is history. Good luck to all of you, and keep an eye on him for me.... Anita
LMAO!!
Posted by Chart walker on :
- was that Rufus' mom's sister he married?!! LOL ~
Posted by 6digits on :
3403 you need to fix your restricted sites settings your old lady is getting wind of your gambling habits.
Posted by etouqe123 on :
quote: That could very well be the case, and the only logical reason Mr. Harris and us continue to believe they are real. This could be a very good defense for Mr. Harris, and it will be difficult to convict the foreigners. Mr. Harris would then be free to start another company, hopefully being far more careful next time.
The more I think about it the more I think Rufus found some sort of loophole that he can borrow against bonds even though he doesnt really own them. His goal was to use the money to fund these pet projects he had but I dont think he thought the plan through completely. He thought the market would bring the price to $15 on their own, but it didnt. This is when I believe it all started to fall apart. He knew he couldnt reset the price so he tried to give more shares away to offset the difference but that didnt work either.
At this point I think he really is playing the 'idiot defense' because I dont think he thought investors would be so commited to this. He problably thought once the SEC halt happened people would just sell and move on. Now he's just doing anything he can to buy more time. I knew when I saw that "emergency meeting" PR that was going to be his excuse for not filing the 10Q. Thats the problem with a bad liar, they forget the last lie they told you and when you hear from them again they got another story to tell.
I really wanted to believe that there was outside forces that were trying to get us, but were the good guys and we'd come out on top. As time goes by I realize that Rufus is FOS and he always has been because all these conspiracies he talked about (Nss, SEC, MMs) could have all covered by now at these prices, but he still points the finger trying to blame them.
A CEO that never takes responsibility for his own stupid decisions will never get us out of this.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Jenna, what about a gift certificate to Wegmans? That I know I can do.
I may have to settle for that.........I love Wegman's
Repo- I just noticed the spelling errors & I hate spelling errors - maybe it was a Fraudian slip after all CSHD's been known to have extra "E"'s on the end of things....
Posted by 3403 on :
Hey Guys just got back. Anyone seen my wife?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna, leave out milk and cookies
I was thinking of Vodka & beernuts
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Hey Guys just got back. Anyone seen my wife?
Normally I would throw in a funny pic here but I will not.
*****restrained***** Posted by Doniboy on :
She left with Mike Alexander and a pile of cash.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Hey Guys just got back. Anyone seen my wife?
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 She is over here, with her luggage!
Posted by 3403 on :
Tell Mike just give me back my huntin dog, bass boat and shot gun.
Posted by Gullible on :
Also 1 cat, 1 motorcycle, 1 Bass Boat.
Posted by milliam on :
Is there going to be another hearing on the 4th? I need to know so I can take that day off and go to the court. I guess I can call the SEC and find out, but I was hoping Rufus would let us know.
Posted by 3403 on :
Gullible don't blow my cover.... LOL
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 You mean not to tell them that you are Anita. LMAO
Posted by 3403 on :
Jenna, it looks like I'm single now. Interested?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
LOL - As she left she quipped something about size really does matter.
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: She left with Mike Alexander and a pile of cash.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Hey Guys just got back. Anyone seen my wife?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna, it looks like I'm single now. Interested?
A little beat up but still a joy to be around
Posted by 3403 on :
The size of my wallet has shrunk a little over the past few weeks....
Posted by Gullible on :
Tex thats funny! LOL
Posted by highhopes on :
I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
Posted by Gullible on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
Posted by highhopes on :
3403 I was thinking that you might discuss that amongst yourselves for a little while. Posted by 3403 on :
Highhopes, I've lost my bass boat, best huntin dog, shot gun, and you are STILL talking about CSHD
Posted by Igor R on :
100,000 at .19 x 2, but then 0 at .19 x 2, to seemingly cancel them out. Why does that keep happening?
Posted by Gullible on :
Looks like it.
Posted by Gullible on :
HH LMAO.
Posted by 3403 on :
Gullible introduced me to Anita incase your wondering.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
At this price there is really no incentive to sell. In addtion, I think all the shorts have covered.
I guess we're a captive audience watching this play unfold.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna, it looks like I'm single now. Interested?
Sent me a picture....then I'll ask my husband if it's ok....
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: 100,000 at .19 x 2, but then 0 at .19 x 2, to seemingly cancel them out. Why does that keep happening?
My "last sale" shows 100,000 at .19 x 4...no 0 sales at .19.
Looks like a big transaction!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Sentiment is the market and you can predict it will change daily with this crazy ride. However, the facts remain the same – the bonds are real (IMO) and the SEC has filed for default judgment. Time for both parties (Rufus and the SEC) to slap their meat on the table and let the Judge measure! Let’s hope our guy is hung like his thoroughbred Dark Chocolate.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
Posted by RushDaBus on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna, it looks like I'm single now. Interested?
Sent me a picture....then I'll ask my husband if it's ok....
I don't know, he's lost all his money and he's about to be divorced. Sounds like a great catch to me! Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Jenna, it looks like I'm single now. Interested?
Sent me a picture....then I'll ask my husband if it's ok....
I am the guy with the bruises and bandaids up the page.
Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Sentiment is the market and you can predict it will change daily with this crazy ride. However, the facts remain the same – the bonds are real (IMO) and the SEC has filed for default judgment. Time for both parties (Rufus and the SEC) to slap their meat on the table and let the Judge measure! Let’s hope our guy is hung like his thoroughbred Dark Chocolate.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
that could of helped me....
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Sentiment is the market and you can predict it will change daily with this crazy ride. However, the facts remain the same – the bonds are real (IMO) and the SEC has filed for default judgment. Time for both parties (Rufus and the SEC) to slap their meat on the table and let the Judge measure! Let’s hope our guy is hung like his thoroughbred Dark Chocolate.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
Holy Chit my sides are hurting TM! LOL!
Posted by Jenna on :
TM - you're killing me today LMAO....
Rush- SSHHH don't tell 3403 that his money is gone one of his personalities doesn't know that he still owns CSHD....
Posted by Jenna on :
I wish I could fast forward this movie I need to get to the end...........I need to know if the ending is tradgic or magnificient........
Posted by 3403 on :
see ya, we're going out looking for my dog.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Did anyone keep a copy of the NOBO list?
Posted by frank021474 on :
As funny as the joke is about wife leaving etc...everytime I see 3403 post now I think of that bud light commercial where the REF is getting yelled at on both sides of his head.
The announcers are saying "Where do these refs get that training"- meanwhile back at home they pan the camera into his nagging wife yelling in his year "WOULD IT HURT FOR YOU TO TELL ME YOU LOVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Good luck 3403 Posted by TexasMoney on :
LOL - Yes, good luck to you. It could be worse, it's not like you lost your dog too - ops!
quote:Originally posted by 3403: see ya, we're going out looking for my dog.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: As funny as the joke is about wife leaving etc...everytime I see 3403 post now I think of that bud light commercial where the REF is getting yelled at on both sides of his head.
The announcers are saying "Where do these refs get that training"- meanwhile back at home they pan the camera into his nagging wife yelling in his year "WOULD IT HURT FOR YOU TO TELL ME YOU LOVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Good luck 3403
Posted by 3403 on :
You might be happy to know, I found my dog (Rufus). Anita forgot she had him tied to the back of the car as she drove over to Mikes. May need some help with the Vet bill.
Posted by Gullible on :
3403 ur sick. ROFL
Posted by frank021474 on :
Man etrade is all messed up- now its showing 2.20 in the portfolio- if only they woudl buy them all from me. I could load back up for pennies on the dollar Posted by djg7 on :
Frank, my etrade portfolio shows 1.81. LMAO
Power etrade shows .15. Wish we had a choice between .15 and 1.81. Too bad I guess.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: As funny as the joke is about wife leaving etc...everytime I see 3403 post now I think of that bud light commercial where the REF is getting yelled at on both sides of his head.
The announcers are saying "Where do these refs get that training"- meanwhile back at home they pan the camera into his nagging wife yelling in his year "WOULD IT HURT FOR YOU TO TELL ME YOU LOVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Good luck 3403
Oddly i think of old country songs
Posted by Igor R on :
No trade in over 34 minutes?
Posted by 3403 on :
In our little scitch CSHD was played by Anita My Wallet was played by my dog Rufus My CSHD Introduction was played by Gullible Bass Boat played by itself Shot Gun played by my thoughts of suicide 3403 was played by both of us
They are all taking a bow Please Aplaud
Posted by highhopes on :
I found the actress playing CSHD showed great promise but the performance was a little uneven.
3403 certainly showed moments of inspiration but often seemed to be just mailing it in.
The dogs performance was puzzling. At times you wanted to stand up and cheer but at other moments you wondered how they made it to the big stage.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
[/qb][/QUOTE]I was thinking of Vodka & beernuts [/QB][/QUOTE]
I didn't know you could catch that from drinking Vodka...but come to think of it, that does explain the swelling! LMAO
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I am not sure which nuts you are talking about now. But, what do beer nuts, bear nuts, and bare nuts have in common?
ANS: Taste salty and look funny on your chin
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
I was thinking of Vodka & beernuts [/QB][/QUOTE]
I didn't know you could catch that from drinking Vodka...but come to think of it, that does explain the swelling! LMAO [/QB][/QUOTE]
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I found the actress playing CSHD showed great promise but the performance was a little uneven.
3403 certainly showed moments of inspiration but often seemed to be just mailing it in.
The dogs performance was puzzling. At times you wanted to stand up and cheer but at other moments you wondered how they made it to the big stage.
Very well done. LOL
Posted by Doniboy on :
Graphic....
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Sentiment is the market and you can predict it will change daily with this crazy ride. However, the facts remain the same – the bonds are real (IMO) and the SEC has filed for default judgment. Time for both parties (Rufus and the SEC) to slap their meat on the table and let the Judge measure! Let’s hope our guy is hung like his thoroughbred Dark Chocolate.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I think it is kind of interesting that everyone was positioning that the lack of the filing yesterday spelled immediate doom but there does not seem to be a big sell off. Very little volume. Are we basically at a point where things are going to stay pretty still until the SEC case is resolved one way or the other?
Posted by luvforever on :
Ummm okay so we are just waiting for Thanksgiving then the 4th the 17th of Dec and then Christmas if there is really a Santa does that mean we will really be partying on NEw years!!!!!!!!!!???? ~LOL Posted by luvforever on :
Oh I forgot the 30th of nov rufas' bday!!!! ~LOL Posted by TexasMoney on :
How do you all interpret the first paragraph (see excerpt below) of the “shareholder committee” update?
We formally recommended to Mr. Harris to file the requested documents with a Market Maker to rightfully return our company to the OTCBB. His response was the corporation’s current court status prevents the recommendation of the shareholder committee. Your recommendations will be addressed on Monday, November 20, 2006 during a 12:00 Noon meeting with a potential Washington DC Law Firm. Thank you for the committee’s cooperation; the return of the Corporation to the OTCBB will hold 1st priority upon status change of the corporation with the Federal Court. I will respond with the time frame fulfillment of your request as soon as possible.
Does this mean we are not able to engage a market maker until ALL issues are resolved with the SEC or just until the default judgment has been resolved?
Posted by luvforever on :
Oh I forgot the 30th of nov rufas' bday!!!! ~LOL ummm...........anyone gettin rufas a present?~LMAO lolololololololololololololol
Posted by luvforever on :
sneeking out the door~~~~creak~~~~ sorry I made a boo boo LOL
Posted by 6digits on :
driver4t4 I agree, got you covered buddy.
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: If there is any chance that CSHD will merge with anybody they will have to be convinced that the bonds are real. Other wise what would CSHD have to bring to the table. Obvious no brainer. It's boring doing this waiting. But i'm glad to hear that something is suppsed to be getting done.
if the bonds are monetized, and he funds our jv's, i believe all is good, but why is he not hypothicating them ??, easy solution, and for all we know he might be doing just that, but if we wait until december 17 to march on the whitehouse lawn, we can pick these share up off the ground... he needs to quit playing games.. lol
Posted by luvforever on :
Folks you think our company is having problems? The company that makes LEGOS is shutting down its U.S. factory and moving it to Mexico..... Lego employees say it is their fault because they made the factory too easy to take apart and rebuild somewhere else!!! ~LMAO Posted by new2stocks on :
Originally Posted by jesuspower1 SO YOU THINK THE SEC IS THE FINAL SAY-SO? CHECK THIS ARTICLE IN TODAY'S WSJ:
SEC to Undergo Further Scrutiny From Congress By KARA SCANNELL November 21, 2006; Page C5
WASHINGTON -- The Securities and Exchange Commission, already under fire for its handling of a suspected insider-trading case, will receive more congressional scrutiny next month when the Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on the agency's effectiveness.
Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the committee until the new Democrat-controlled Congress convenes in January, has scheduled an oversight hearing on the SEC for Dec. 5.
The hearing comes as the SEC has been on the defensive since Sen. Specter and Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) said they were investigating the agency's handling of an insider-trading investigation involving hedge fund Pequot Capital Management and John Mack, the chief executive of Morgan Stanley. The matter, which was brought to their attention by a former SEC attorney, was referred to the Government Accountability Office for a thorough review of the SEC's enforcement division.
Linda Chatman Thomsen, the SEC's enforcement chief, is expected to testify at the hearing. Pequot founder Arthur Samberg has been notified of the hearing, according to a person familiar with the matter. It is unclear if Sen. Specter will compel his testimony. A spokesman for Pequot declined to comment.
Sen. Specter is expected to discuss the ability of the Justice Department to work with the SEC on investigations, following two court rulings that criticized the agencies for working too closely. He is also likely to discuss hedge funds, which he has said require tough enforcement.
It follows two hearings Sen. Specter held earlier this year. The first focused on hedge funds and short-selling activities, and Gary Aguirre, a former SEC attorney, testified about the SEC's handling of the Pequot investigation. Mr. Aguirre says he was fired after he sought to compel the testimony of Mr. Mack, who he suspected of tipping inside information to Pequot about a pending takeover. Mr. Aguirre has charged that the SEC denied his interview request because of Mr. Mack's political connections, and he said the agency allowed insider-trading referrals to gather dust, allegations the SEC has denied. Mr. Mack testified before the SEC this summer, and the agency said last month it wouldn't file charges against Pequot or Mr. Mack.
Sen. Specter has criticized the SEC's diligence in following up on insider-trading referrals from exchanges. The SEC says 75% of referrals become informal probes.
Posted by luvforever on :
Nice find......
Posted by frank021474 on :
My response to the above post new2 from JP1
Quote: Originally Posted by frank021474 I just don't see him getting in front of many congressional committees on a cold SUNDAY before christmas. Is there a special session scheduled?
If its just a shareholder meeting then by all means- sounds good (I have a home in DC). But if we are at a point mid december where we need to stand on a street or wherever in Washington, DC to try getting our point across holding signs than I suppose we AREN'T as golden as others have alluded to.
This is just my opinion!
Posted by Chart walker on :
frank... -well there are "permits" being gathered for DC.
If it's just to stand in the street, -why the permits???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Honestly, I think this was the purpose of rushing the Shareholder Comittee's creation. Just for the sole purpose of that little paragraph.
Rufus is going 100% by the book at this point.
Everyone in college knows the "trick" law that says and undercover officer must tell you he is a Police Officer and show his credentials to you ask him straight out. It is the law he has to tell you if he is.
I think Rufus wanted the Shareholder Comittee officially organized to ask him this question, and this question alone.
His official response that he gave back, does two things. A. It tells all why we do not have an MM. B. It shows an organized shareholder effort to effect change in the courts decision.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: How do you all interpret the first paragraph (see excerpt below) of the “shareholder committee” update?
We formally recommended to Mr. Harris to file the requested documents with a Market Maker to rightfully return our company to the OTCBB. His response was the corporation’s current court status prevents the recommendation of the shareholder committee. Your recommendations will be addressed on Monday, November 20, 2006 during a 12:00 Noon meeting with a potential Washington DC Law Firm. Thank you for the committee’s cooperation; the return of the Corporation to the OTCBB will hold 1st priority upon status change of the corporation with the Federal Court. I will respond with the time frame fulfillment of your request as soon as possible.
Does this mean we are not able to engage a market maker until ALL issues are resolved with the SEC or just until the default judgment has been resolved?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Is this a CSHD shareholder barbecue in the streets of DC?
Posted by frank021474 on :
I have no idea- If it wasn't on a SUNDAY I would believe it could easily be some sort of protest. Since its on a Sunday perhaps its just a shareholder gathering at a nice public location.
I vote for the latter-
Posted by 6digits on :
burn permit for BBQ, Permit to protest at capitol Hill, to drink in the street till we had our fill?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Singing Kooomboya, kooomboya.....
Posted by 6digits on :
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by new2stocks on :
LMAO!!
Posted by milliam on :
I saw some people talking about getting permits, but I haven't seen it anywhere official. Is this true and where did we see/hear this from?
I guess we just need something to make this even more interesting....pretty soon its going to be hard to out-do the last crazy thing!
Posted by 6digits on :
We need permission to carry Rufus on our shoulders into Congress?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
If there is a Congressional Hearing on CSHD it should be quite a comedy show. In the middle will be Rufus dressed as if he stepped off the set of Brokeback Mountain. To his left will be Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid. And, to Rufus’ right will be King Tutankhamen speaking in tongue about cobras attacking, the Phoenix rising, and the gates of victory. Yeah, I would say we are golden! Posted by 6digits on :
milliam it was in the fri PR. about Dec 17th meeting in DC
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Is this a CSHD shareholder barbecue in the streets of DC?
lol ~
Like a Greenbay Packer Football tailgate party... -you wake up (somewhere) the next day and say....
"Game?... what game?..." Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: We need permission to carry Rufus on our shoulders into Congress?
I think Rufus plans on riding a donkey up to Capitol Hill and then to the SEC Headquarters. CSHD shareholders will be waving palm leaves the whole way.
Washington may require a permit to ride an jackass on government property.
Posted by 6digits on :
It will be the greatest thing since Wild Bill Cody's wild west show.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: I saw some people talking about getting permits, but I haven't seen it anywhere official. Is this true and where did we see/hear this from?
I guess we just need something to make this even more interesting....pretty soon its going to be hard to out-do the last crazy thing!
From PR released this past Friday (on the cvsu site)
"Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits."
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If there is a Congressional Hearing on CSHD it should be quite a comedy show. In the middle will be Rufus dressed as if he stepped off the set of Brokeback Mountain. To his left will be Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid. And, to Rufus’ right will be King Tutankhamen speaking in tongue about cobras attacking, the Phoenix rising, and the gates of victory. Yeah, I would say we are golden!
ROFLMAO!!
Posted by ClayN on :
From the PR on 11/17
"Each shareholder of record will receive notification via mail. The exact location of the meeting is to be announced upon receipt of the required permits."
quote:Originally posted by milliam: I saw some people talking about getting permits, but I haven't seen it anywhere official. Is this true and where did we see/hear this from?
I guess we just need something to make this even more interesting....pretty soon its going to be hard to out-do the last crazy thing!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
who is going to go to washington for this stock, no 10-q filed, rufus has got some explianing to do. and not through a committee.
Posted by 6digits on :
That depends on whether you are a democrat or a republican.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If there is a Congressional Hearing on CSHD it should be quite a comedy show. In the middle will be Rufus dressed as if he stepped off the set of Brokeback Mountain. To his left will be Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid. And, to Rufus’ right will be King Tutankhamen speaking in tongue about cobras attacking, the Phoenix rising, and the gates of victory. Yeah, I would say we are golden!
"Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid"
lmao ~~~ You should be a writer for some sit com!! Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If there is a Congressional Hearing on CSHD it should be quite a comedy show. In the middle will be Rufus dressed as if he stepped off the set of Brokeback Mountain. To his left will be Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid. And, to Rufus’ right will be King Tutankhamen speaking in tongue about cobras attacking, the Phoenix rising, and the gates of victory. Yeah, I would say we are golden!
Long as we don't bring this guy:
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Guys do not take "required permits" too literally. If you have a convention or public meeting at a hotel... they usually have the "required permits" for their convention halls already available. If you meet somewhere else you usually have to file for the permits yourself. I know people that throw huge New Year's parties every year. and every year the permits are an issue based on the location. Just chill on the "required permits" being protest related till you start seeing the tree huggers carrying professional placards. LOL! Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: milliam it was in the fri PR. about Dec 17th meeting in DC
Thanks...I guess I glossed over that one. I'm guessing the permits aren't the kind we've been speculating about, but I sure don't know!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Guys do not take "required permits" too literally. If you have a convention or public meeting at a hotel... they usually have the "required permits" for their convention halls already available. If you meet somewhere else you usually have to file for the permits yourself. I know people that throw huge New Year's parties every year. and every year the permits are an issue based on the location. Just chill on the "required permits" being protest related till you start seeing the tree huggers carrying professional placards. LOL!
Besides, the PR states that the meeting will be available via teleconference and video conference - I doubt that would be feasible in the streets of DC.
Posted by highhopes on :
Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
Posted by frank021474 on :
I think we are all on the same page about NOT wanting it to come to that- I just like putting that picture in. It cracks me up Posted by CRab on :
You need a permit no matter what type of meeting/party/get together/ho-down/shin dig you are having if a large number of people are expected to attend. Things like fire safety and police details all play into that. Folks need to use a little common sense here.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
LOL
Posted by highhopes on :
There were a number of people here yesterday that assured me that the stock price would go below a penny today if Rufus did not file the 10Q. I find that they are not as vocal today. Do bashers work on a 4 day work week? Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: You need a permit no matter what type of "meeting" you are having if a large number of people are expected to attend. Things like fire safety and police details all play into that. Folks need to use a little common sense here.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
I don't call speculating about a protest in Washington, DC lack of common sense. Tut posts "Washington, DC what do YOU THINK"
Considering the banter on the committee pages about congressional hearings and the SEC holding down the company I don't see how anyone could NOT speculate the possibility.
Its like ignoring that 1000lb elephant in the corner of the room if you consider NO PROTEST a lack of common sense.
I am not for that idea myself- Just saying that we should be prepared for anything the way this rollercoaster has been going.
Posted by MTPromises on :
Was any concensus reached on this board in regards to why there is a deadline for registering with the shareholder committee?
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: There were a number of people here yesterday that assured me that the stock price would go below a penny today if Rufus did not file the 10Q. I find that they are not as vocal today. Do bashers work on a 4 day work week?
At least we aren't hearing from that other "source"
whew ~
Talk about fly chit on your windshield! Posted by highhopes on :
I agree anything is possible....but after the million man march, the anti war protests, womens rights movement, etc.. I feel like the Naked Short Parade might be one I want to bow out of.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I thought it was Phoenix chit.....??
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
Yes... in many places officially you need a permit for any public gathering of five or more people. It usually is over looked unless there is a liability issue. I would thing Washington D.C. is especially particular about it's permit regulations. I doubt you will be doing any official marching, just a bunch of comedy from how the statement reads in the PR.
Traders are a very particular group, always wanting things exact and unquestionable. I am sorry to say in life you can't have everything accurate and precise at the same time. Consistant bullseyes are difficult to obtain. Half the time I believe you guys wouldn't be happy even if you wrote the PR yourself.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I pulled out my can of raid on him last night...took one for the team...ask Jenna
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: There were a number of people here yesterday that assured me that the stock price would go below a penny today if Rufus did not file the 10Q. I find that they are not as vocal today. Do bashers work on a 4 day work week?
At least we aren't hearing from that other "source"
whew ~
Talk about fly chit on your windshield!
Posted by GreenDay on :
Why am I hearing weird sounds coming from my computer, only on this page 95? anyone else?
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like I can fly into DC for around $163 round trip. I might have to give some thought to heading up there for this thing.
Posted by Chart walker on :
MT.... -mail Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Why am I hearing weird sounds coming from my computer, only on this page 95? anyone else?
ummmm nope
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Looks like I can fly into DC for around $163 round trip. I might have to give some thought to heading up there for this thing.
I'm going to have to hitchike, especially after buying 4000 more shares of cshd last week at .35c per share.. Posted by driver4t4 on :
Originally Posted by brazilianrosewood Piece together the IIRSA and Ecowood; go to ifc.org on the left side of the page click projects/disclosures, search "Orinoco". You'll get several links 3 of which are for the projects, 2 of which are environmental documents, analysis before project funding. Those 3 projects are: 1) 2 new ports 2) Wood processing facility 3) River barges in the area and at that location.
The IIRSA is a plan put into motion by 5 big banks in South America to move the peoples of the varying nations, and their commerce forward, while moving the earth toward a healthier state. NOTE: to look beyond South America you will find the World Bank, European nations, and the CDP (cdproject.net for reference).
A major plan involving Ecowood and CSHC in South America is the current implementation of an IIRSA plan to link the Orinoco, Amazon, and Rio de Plata rivers to creat a continental waterway from Venezuela and the Caribbean, to the Atlantic coast in Uruguay/Argentina.
The information obtained from the IFC.org website shows you this as having been prepared for by this World Bank Group in preparing the ports at the Orinoco river delta for hauling and processing the wood obtained from the Amazon river.
The above two links share information on the IIRSA. I do believe the ecology of the planet will only be better for the sacrifice of some locations made in the former link given above.
The above is the IFC project page described in the first paragraph. If the link does not work for you, there are instructions given how to find this information.
post from hsm.
Posted by highhopes on :
Green day, one of the banner ads automatically loads and plays. Happens once in awhile. Should be able to refresh and make it go away. What ever you do , do not click the ad!
Posted by milliam on :
Its the ad at the bottom of the page...refresh and it should go away.
I had the same thing going last month and was freaking out trying to figure out what the heck was going on .
Posted by GreenDay on :
Thanks - I refreshed and weird sounds gone. I thought Tut was sending me subliminal messages.
So I am trying to piece together the latest events. Was there a conference call yesterday with just the committe reps and is that where the latest update on the shareholder webpage came from? and if so, was there any other news or info from that call. I did see the post from Tony Saprano (that's weird), anything else?
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Looks like I can fly into DC for around $163 round trip. I might have to give some thought to heading up there for this thing.
It seems many people are missing a key phrase from last Friday's press release:
"The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference."
The speculation that the meeting might be some sort of demonstration makes little sense as the vast majority of shareholders who wish to participate will undoubtedly take the video or teleconference option.
I would rather think that the meeting will be a combination of updates on where we are at that time and forward-looking business. To the extent that anything needs to be voted on by the shareholder base we can take care of that. Additionally, shareholder meetings are often good times to make major announcements concerning contracts, appointments, partnerships, etc.
A demonstration in the streets? This sounds like the same sort of extreme speculation that causes so much misguided stress as we wait for legitimate information.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by highhopes on :
No that is about it. The good news is the market just closed and we finished in the green for the first time in awhile. If nothing else it seems to have held the bashers at bay a little bit.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
No, it’s because you have your brokerage account loaded in the background. Does it sound like laughter?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Why am I hearing weird sounds coming from my computer, only on this page 95? anyone else?
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: What ever you do , do not click the ad!
This makes me want to push the button so bad - just to see why you say not to. I am holding back the temptation but it is very tough.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Driver ~ Thanks, I made a copy and will check it out a bit later. I really need to do more digging in that info.
I am a bit of an Orinoco history buff ever since reading the "The Creature in the Map: A Journey to El Dorado" By Charles Nicholl it is a nice book documenting Sir Walter Raleigh's and his hunt for gold in South America.
Posted by highhopes on :
OK whoever put that last trade through is just mean.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Are you talking about “TonySoprano’s” first post this morning? That post and all other posts that quoted him were deleted off HSM. Go figure! I guess it wasn’t cherry enough to choke down the kool-aid.
He was chapped that Rufus’ choose to play the crusade card instead of developing the business he had promised us.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Thanks - I refreshed and weird sounds gone. I thought Tut was sending me subliminal messages.
So I am trying to piece together the latest events. Was there a conference call yesterday with just the committe reps and is that where the latest update on the shareholder webpage came from? and if so, was there any other news or info from that call. I did see the post from Tony Saprano (that's weird), anything else?
Posted by NEL on :
What's with the closing price of $1.99... is that for real (I wish)? Sure makes my account look purdy!
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: No, it’s because you have your brokerage account loaded in the background. Does it sound like laughter?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Why am I hearing weird sounds coming from my computer, only on this page 95? anyone else?
I think you are right! It is ugly. Posted by Chart walker on :
Humble said: I would rather think that the meeting will be a combination of updates on where we are at that time and forward-looking business. To the extent that anything needs to be voted on by the shareholder base we can take care of that. Additionally, shareholder meetings are often good times to make major announcements concerning contracts, appointments, partnerships, etc. ================================================
Now that sounds logical... May even be the best post of the day ~ Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Are you talking about “TonySoprano’s” first post this morning? That post and all other posts that quoted him were deleted off HSM. Go figure! I guess it wasn’t cherry enough to choke down the kool-aid.
He was chapped that Rufus’ choose to play the crusade card instead of developing the business he had promised us.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I did see the post from Tony Saprano (that's weird), anything else?
Yes, but I didn't see it on that board, I saw it here as a repost a few pages back. Do we know what was said by Rufus to lead to that?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
I hear it every day, friend!
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: No, it’s because you have your brokerage account loaded in the background. Does it sound like laughter?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Why am I hearing weird sounds coming from my computer, only on this page 95? anyone else?
I think you are right! It is ugly.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Can you bump that "TonySoprano" post for me please?
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Are you talking about “TonySoprano’s” first post this morning? That post and all other posts that quoted him were deleted off HSM. Go figure! I guess it wasn’t cherry enough to choke down the kool-aid.
He was chapped that Rufus’ choose to play the crusade card instead of developing the business he had promised us.
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I did see the post from Tony Saprano (that's weird), anything else?
Yes, but I didn't see it on that board, I saw it here as a repost a few pages back. Do we know what was said by Rufus to lead to that?
Posted by Igor R on :
So, in my positions tab in Etrade, i'm showing $0 for current price and $0 for market value of my shares. But on the net assets page it shows the correct value. And the last time it did this was when the symbol change happened. Anyone else with etrade having this happen?
Posted by luvforever on :
Member Rated: posted November 21, 2006 08:25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by TonySoprano Tut is, without a doubt, the one of the strongest advocates for every shareholder within the CSHD community. He has stuck his neck out for each of us far beyond anything required or expected.
As for me, I decided yesterday that the methods chosen by the CEO are so inconsistent with my principles that I would no longer be actively involved with the Shareholder's committee in an advisory role. I remain a shareholder, and have no plans to consider selling a single share until such time as the stock returns to a regular exchange AND provides something reasonably close to a valuation that is consistent with the assets.
While I cannot disclose the exact reasons for my decision due to Confidentiality constraints I would recommend that each of you read the lastest update from the Shareholder's committee and draw your own conclusions, at least for now, based on what I have posted in the past:
I hope for the best for everyone in this and share with each of you the frustration regarding this situation.
Tony,
-------------------- Never lookback...
Posted by highhopes on :
Sorry if my earlier posts came off as negative about the shareholder meeting. I think I recall on SPR that Washington was the number 1 place listeners were. Probably means that is where most of the stockholders are too. So having a shareholder meeting there makes perfect sense.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Looks like I can fly into DC for around $163 round trip. I might have to give some thought to heading up there for this thing.
It seems many people are missing a key phrase from last Friday's press release:
"The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference."
The speculation that the meeting might be some sort of demonstration makes little sense as the vast majority of shareholders who wish to participate will undoubtedly take the video or teleconference option.
I would rather think that the meeting will be a combination of updates on where we are at that time and forward-looking business. To the extent that anything needs to be voted on by the shareholder base we can take care of that. Additionally, shareholder meetings are often good times to make major announcements concerning contracts, appointments, partnerships, etc.
A demonstration in the streets? This sounds like the same sort of extreme speculation that causes so much misguided stress as we wait for legitimate information.
... In My humble Opinion
It is speculation humble- After the last shareholder meeting being broadcast from a mexican restaraunt using someones laptop and a webcam, and cellphones piped into audio chat rooms I would expect nothing less than chaos with this stock. Doesn't mean I am selling
Agree?
I HOPE its just a shareholder meeting and not some other political agenda being focused on in Washington DC.
Why do I speculate this? Someone on HSM was speculating this same thing when that PR came out and Tut came on and said:
tutankhamen HSM Regular
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 463 Washington, D.C. Think about it.
Does it mean anything? Who knows- as usual we are waiting to see. Either way I think we have enough indicators to not RULE out any possibilities in the near future!
Posted by GreenDay on :
Great post Humble. In regard to shareholder votes, don't those usually have to be announced by company before hand? I usually get emails and letters about upcoming shareholder votes from my other holdings, usually weeks in advance with the topics to be voted on spelled out. And if there is a vote at this point or any other, I hope they find a better way to reach their shareholders of record than some internet site you have to sign up on. I haven't done it yet and don't intend to at this time. To much about it (the committee) is uncomfortable to me.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
So? How about a CEO change? We are almost due for one, aren't we?
As a CSHD stockholder I nominate Petar Vucicevich to become our next fearless CEO and start the next chapter!
lmao
Posted by new2stocks on :
that link to the shareholders committee site doesn't work
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Ok ok, I will takeover as CSHD CEO. I understand that you all need a capable leader, and I am willing to completely reverse my stance and assume this position in order to reverse the miserable fortunes that have befallen on the shareholders.
Please let Tut know, the Repoman is coming to collect.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: So? How about a CEO change? We are almost due for one, aren't we?
As a CSHD stockholder I nominate Petar Vucicevich to become our next fearless CEO and start the next chapter!
lmao
next chapter, did'nt we just start chapter 7
Posted by frank021474 on :
Reverse your position to "assume the position" LOL
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: Ok ok, I will takeover as CSHD CEO. I understand that you all need a capable leader, and I am willing to completely reverse my position and assume this position in order to reverse the miserable fortunes that have befallen on the shareholders.
Please let Tut know, the Repoman is coming to collect.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Will this all end at CHAPTER 11?
Get it?
Posted by milliam on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Looks like I can fly into DC for around $163 round trip. I might have to give some thought to heading up there for this thing.
It seems many people are missing a key phrase from last Friday's press release:
"The Meeting will be available via tele-conference and video-conference."
The speculation that the meeting might be some sort of demonstration makes little sense as the vast majority of shareholders who wish to participate will undoubtedly take the video or teleconference option.
I would rather think that the meeting will be a combination of updates on where we are at that time and forward-looking business. To the extent that anything needs to be voted on by the shareholder base we can take care of that. Additionally, shareholder meetings are often good times to make major announcements concerning contracts, appointments, partnerships, etc.
A demonstration in the streets? This sounds like the same sort of extreme speculation that causes so much misguided stress as we wait for legitimate information.
... In My humble Opinion
I wasn't talking about going so I could be in some sort of demonstration. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to be what happens here.
I was only talking about going so I could be there with everyone as we hear (hopefully) all of the good news. I've been to one of Rufus's BBQs, so I know he knows good food. It would also be good to rebuild my confidence in him...he can really make you feel confident talking to him in person!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Will this all end at CHAPTER 11?
Get it?
lol, hehehe hope so wish we could skip this chapter.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
An unintentionally funny post on HSM:
“Someone earlier mentioned a Class Action Lawsuit . If it comes down to that, please throw me on the list. Be sure not to do anything individually , because together we can all work as a team and probably reap rewards, or compensation for this mess”
Be sure not to do anything individually with your class action lawsuit. Huh! OK, I think! Posted by Gullible on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: So, in my positions tab in Etrade, i'm showing $0 for current price and $0 for market value of my shares. But on the net assets page it shows the correct value. And the last time it did this was when the symbol change happened. Anyone else with etrade having this happen?
I called Etrade this morning about my account balance being incorrect, and they said they were having technical problems. They straightened it out a little later.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I have been lingering over there as well TexasMoney- kind of entertaining since it was raining and an "inside day"
Posted by TexasMoney on :
If you shake that message board’s collective grey matter it sounds like a bb in a boxcar.
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I have been lingering over there as well TexasMoney- kind of entertaining since it was raining and an "inside day"
Posted by driver4t4 on :
did you guy's see what information they want to register as a shareholder, man I just cant give them that info !!!! I cant believe they are not asking age, sex, childrens age, school's they attend, where they are on saturday morning at 9a.m..... Posted by highhopes on :
The one interesting thing I saw over there was some discussion about how quiet the committee has been. With the exception of the Soprano abdication it appears they are sticking to the gag order. I have to believe that is good news. Rufus has legal advise, he and the committee are quiet, hopefully that means work is going on.
Posted by highhopes on :
Driver, what has you concerned? I did not see anything that made me think I was at risk posting my info over there. Am I missing something?
Posted by TexasMoney on :
This problem could be avoided if they hired someone internally to mange investor relations. Typically, companies don’t do this until they reach the multimillion-dollar range (sarcasm effectively inserted).
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: did you guy's see what information they want to register as a shareholder, man I just cant give them that info !!!! I cant believe they are not asking age, sex, childrens age, school's they attend, where they are on saturday morning at 9a.m.....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Chart you have mail... Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Driver, what has you concerned? I did not see anything that made me think I was at risk posting my info over there. Am I missing something?
I have no idea where this information is truly going, some guy bybthe name of dog, no disrepect to him as a shareholder but i have seen nothing offering security to this, I was a victim one time of ID fraud over something that was supposed to be innocent, why cant they file forms, notorize them prove who they are before wanting information..
Posted by highhopes on :
You have a point there. But I guess as long as there is nothing on SS# or anything like that it is mostly stuff they could get out of the phone book. Hopefully I did not screw up.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Driver, what has you concerned? I did not see anything that made me think I was at risk posting my info over there. Am I missing something?
My concern is that of how this committee was not only created but how its being managed.
Not that I can do it any better- Hats off to the folks putting in the personal time to set it up!
Other stocks I have owned have shareholder portals and other things built into the companies website. They are a little more official.
Shareholder complaints are not a PM over HSM. Or a message to someones home email. Its a part of the company.
For all I know this server is some computer sitting at someones house rigged up willy-nilly style on the internet.
NO protection or guarantees of personal data security.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If there is a Congressional Hearing on CSHD it should be quite a comedy show. In the middle will be Rufus dressed as if he stepped off the set of Brokeback Mountain. To his left will be Jesuspower1 wearing white shoes and a white sequenced suit stained with kool-aid. And, to Rufus’ right will be King Tutankhamen speaking in tongue about cobras attacking, the Phoenix rising, and the gates of victory. Yeah, I would say we are golden!
Still catching up but this made me laugh... Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: You need a permit no matter what type of meeting/party/get together/ho-down/shin dig you are having if a large number of people are expected to attend. Things like fire safety and police details all play into that. Folks need to use a little common sense here.
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Do you need a permit to have an official stockholders meeting? I really hope it is something other then a march on Washington. Somehow I do not think I could explain to the kids that Dad is going to march in order to get the shorts!
I was thinking we could get a permit to sell kool-aid on the side walk somewhere to recoupe some of our losses....
Posted by GreenDay on :
I ditto driver and frank.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I am just glad we don't have anyone over here that speaks pirate- I would convert from penny stocks to selling tupperware for entertainment.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: Driver, what has you concerned? I did not see anything that made me think I was at risk posting my info over there. Am I missing something?
My concern is that of how this committee was not only created but how its being managed.
Not that I can do it any better- Hats off to the folks putting in the personal time to set it up!
Other stocks I have owned have shareholder portals and other things built into the companies website. They are a little more official.
Shareholder complaints are not a PM over HSM. Or a message to someones home email. Its a part of the company.
For all I know this server is some computer sitting at someones house rigged up willy-nilly style on the internet.
NO protection or guarantees of personal data security.
Two things... one good and one bad. At least the server has a certificate, and works under the https protocol. Too bad it is set up incorrectly and all transmissions are not secure. Make sure if you submit that registration form, that you do so to the HTTPS address, and the little lock is visible on the bottom of your browser.
Posted by CRab on :
arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh...
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I am just glad we don't have anyone over here that speaks pirate- I would convert from penny stocks to selling tupperware for entertainment.
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh...
what's wrong? might be a loaded question
Posted by RichBy26 on :
As of right now I am not planning on signing onto the S.H. committee, but I'm concerned that you have to be a member to attend the meeting on the 17th in DC. I have my stock cert and I plan on bringing it to the meeting to verify that I am a shareholder, even though I am on the NOBO list. Does anyone know if you have to be a committee member to attend the meeting on the 17th?
Posted by frank021474 on :
I wasn't speaking of data interception during transmission (what ssl protects against) I was speaking of just the unknown server sitting who knows where behind who knows what protection.
And who knows who as access to it? Its just an unknown environment collecting 100's and 100's of sharedholders personal data.
Yes I am a security geek.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Another unintentionally funny from HSM:
I don't get the "Corky" comment, call me ingorant …
If you misspell “ignorant”, may we call you something else? Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: As of right now I am not planning on signing onto the S.H. committee, but I'm concerned that you have to be a member to attend the meeting on the 17th in DC. I have my stock cert and I plan on bringing it to the meeting to verify that I am a shareholder, even though I am on the NOBO list. Does anyone know if you have to be a committee member to attend the meeting on the 17th?
I think if you show up holding certs you should be able to get in the door. I doubt anyone would get turned away from joining in the fun.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: As of right now I am not planning on signing onto the S.H. committee, but I'm concerned that you have to be a member to attend the meeting on the 17th in DC. I have my stock cert and I plan on bringing it to the meeting to verify that I am a shareholder, even though I am on the NOBO list. Does anyone know if you have to be a committee member to attend the meeting on the 17th?
I think if you show up holding certs you should be able to get in the door. I doubt anyone would get turned away from joining in the fun.
Clarification – not the edible breath mint Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: As of right now I am not planning on signing onto the S.H. committee, but I'm concerned that you have to be a member to attend the meeting on the 17th in DC. I have my stock cert and I plan on bringing it to the meeting to verify that I am a shareholder, even though I am on the NOBO list. Does anyone know if you have to be a committee member to attend the meeting on the 17th?
I think if you show up holding certs you should be able to get in the door. I doubt anyone would get turned away from joining in the fun.
Clarification – not the edible breath mint
If this hasn't hit by then I am going to dress like a street person and rub hot dog water on my clothes so I stink.
Go in with a change jar and a name tag with current share position
Just kidding Posted by RichBy26 on :
That's what I'm thinking frank, just wanted an other opinion, thanks!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
One geek to another I get your concern, and feel your pain. I am agreeing with you on the destination of the info being an enigma, and I am also agreeing that the holder of the information is also an enigma. just pointing out that the Certificate is being used improperly, and that too has my panties in a bunch.
I hate the lact of privacy statements, name disclosures, and encryption tools. I have chosen at this point in time not to take the risk, but if I understand the "deadline" and reasoning for the deadline I may take the chance.
Not too worried about my identity being stolen. I am a dog that has bite. (or should I say byte)
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: As of right now I am not planning on signing onto the S.H. committee, but I'm concerned that you have to be a member to attend the meeting on the 17th in DC. I have my stock cert and I plan on bringing it to the meeting to verify that I am a shareholder, even though I am on the NOBO list. Does anyone know if you have to be a committee member to attend the meeting on the 17th?
I think if you show up holding certs you should be able to get in the door. I doubt anyone would get turned away from joining in the fun.
I doubt this meeting will even take place, lots of time to call it off for whatever reason. I had no plans to attend anyway WOT IMO!
Posted by 3403 on :
Why don't we all stay at the same hotel. We could have a big party.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Not a waist of my time mad, I live in Baltimore and DC is only 45 min away. Why not see what's going on with our situation, since Rufus has stopped his speeches on SPR and HSM. I'm going and I'm sure some people will appreciate someone from this board attending. Don't worry, since it is a waist of your time, I promise not to share any info with you! Posted by 3403 on :
Last week Rufus told Simon he'd be back Tuesday, as I remember.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Rufus would be back from where, 3403?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Last week Rufus told Simon he'd be back Tuesday, as I remember.
hopefully his legal council advised him not to, he needs to pr the developements of this company and act like a real CEO for a change.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Not a waist of my time mad, I live in Baltimore and DC is only 45 min away. Why not see what's going on with our situation, since Rufus has stopped his speeches on SPR and HSM. I'm going and I'm sure some people will appreciate someone from this board attending. Don't worry, since it is a waist of your time, I promise not to share any info with you!
I will be checking it out as well Rich! I live out by Dulles airport (Ashburn, VA) right outside of DC.
Yes my Allstock thing says Raleigh but the movers will be here on Monday Posted by 3403 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Rufus would be back from where, 3403?
subpenny radio
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Rufus would be back from where, 3403?
subpenny radio
great
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Nice frank, I look forward to seeing you there! Looks like we're going to be trading places, DC and VA are nice but I'm heading to Charlotte in the next year! GL in your new place
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Not too worried about my identity being stolen. I am a dog that has bite. (or should I say byte)
I thought that too until someone got a hold of my debit/check card info last week and spent 10k at coach.com......
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Nice frank, I look forward to seeing you there! Looks like we're going to be trading places, DC and VA are nice but I'm heading to Charlotte in the next year! GL in your new place
I have lived in DC metro for many years- I was moving to Raleigh, NC last month and the Corp plans have changed. So back I go on their dime Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Not too worried about my identity being stolen. I am a dog that has bite. (or should I say byte)
I thought that too until someone got a hold of my checking account last week and spent 10k at coach.com......
Sorry to hear that P Rowds. Someone stole my c.c. info a couple months back and did the same thing to me. I can't imagine what kind of person does that to another, blows my mind. Hope you recoupe what you lost...
Posted by 3403 on :
There are alot of crooks & cons out there.
Posted by P Rowds on :
good timing for it too... they sure know when to kick ya when your down. with CSHD putting me down over 10k lol
Posted by Rhyz on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: There are alot of crooks & cons out there.
Some that even run companies... Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: Was any concensus reached on this board in regards to why there is a deadline for registering with the shareholder committee?
bump . . . or is it just like anything requesting information? - if you don't put a deadline on it, people won't do it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Not too worried about my identity being stolen. I am a dog that has bite. (or should I say byte)
I thought that too until someone got a hold of my debit/check card info last week and spent 10k at coach.com......
It does hurt when they hit you that way. I have seen a good deal of identity fraud info in my career.
What I can say is that the crooks are traceable. It is difficult but if you know what to ask for and how to ask for it. You can find them and if by any luck they are still or ever plan on being in this country again. You can get them. We had LAPD chasing this guy all over town a couple of months ago. Eventually, even he had his door broken down.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
Thats very true IMO. Rufus either has everything he says he has or he REALLY believes that he does. And i dont believe he is stupid so im counting on him having what he says he has.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
I totally agree Tax, look at a POS like SLJB and see what that CEO did to his investors, then he split. Rufus took back control, and that to me says he has nothing to hide. Say what you want about Rufus, but he does not have a death wish... JMHO
Posted by humble on :
I have spent some time trying to continue researching CSHD connections and really digging into them. There is some really interesting stuff related to the potential value of the Ecowood project in Brazil, as well as the value of sequestered land in all of South America, in general.
Combine the value of pollution credits with the ability to draw down on the value of the future revenue for these credits (asset back securities - CSHD) and the possibilities are simply staggering. An entire new market is unfolding as we speak and CSHD is positioned to help underdeveloped and cash-poor countries get cash out of those newly recognized assets.
How big could this get? Here is some literature from a hedge fund prospectus (anyone recognize the exchange from a previous discussion):
"A carbon exchange is like a stock exchange for pollution. The idea of trading in greenhouse gases has its roots in the Kyoto Protocol. This is the international treaty to reduce levels of gases that trap heat and are linked to climate change.
The Chicago Climate Exchange is known as the CCX. It provides a market for businesses to trade on the release and capture of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide.
Market forces drive the price of the credits. The credits are called Carbon Financial Instruments. Each credit is equal to one hundred metric tons of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas.
By this December, members of the CCX are supposed to have reduced their emissions four percent below levels in a baseline period. That period is nineteen ninety-eight to two thousand one. A six percent reduction is the target for two thousand ten.
The CCX was the first carbon exchange when it opened in two thousand three. Today it is the only exchange of its kind in North America. In Europe, big producers of greenhouse gases are required to take part in emissions trading. The CCX owns the European Climate Exchange, in the Netherlands.
No one is required to take part in the Chicago Climate Exchange. But those who do are legally required to observe their emission agreements and the rules of the exchange.
Richard Sandor started the CCX. He helped develop the financial futures market for the Chicago Board of Trade. Mister Sandor has said he thinks the market for carbon credits could one day be larger than the market for oil."
Sounds like an easy sell to me. Hey Country A, want to make a ton of cash right now for something you did not even no you had until recently, and do not want to deal with anyway? Thought so. Sign here please.
This is all speculation relative to CSHD but the idea and possibility is entirely sound. Someone is going to do it in short order.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Humble, very nice post and IMO a nice explaination into the heart and soul of Ecowood. The carbon credits have never received enough attention if you ask me.
Posted by Chart walker on :
ahhh,... About that ADOT comment... Now I don't know the DD on it but if you look at what happened the last time this indicator passed the neutral line in the WEEKLY chart, you will see it is about to possibly do it again...
Not sticking up for ADOT's management (don't care), but it's chart is screaming that it's gonna blow again... That's what I like about flipping, you don't have to care about all that CEO BS.
"sorry" -but even P.O.S.'s have runs I flipped CMKX, that was a REAL POS!!! LOL ~
Yes, I do have a small position in ADOT. I told people who wanted a list of stocks to watch, right when to buy a HIGH RISK stock like this so you don't have to wait forever and a day...
Same way PYPR started out at the beginning of the year ~ (take a look!)
btw... I think 3 of my pic's went double digits today, 30, 40 and 50% I think... and some single digit gainers and some still accumulating...
The indicators don't lie man... -watch
Later Board!
Posted by wv1973 on :
If any one of you are directly associated with the company and/or has direct contact w/ Rufus, there is a perfect place to hold a meeting in Washington, DC. Any business can rent meeting spaces at the National Press Club -- I know because I have set up several meetings and press conferences there in my corporate life.
This will assure that there will be no screw ups with the video and teleconference and you can even invite the financial press because they all have offices in DC. The National Press Club is set up to handle everything involved in this type of meeting.
If this is on the level and not a scam, let's all be in agreement that we have a right:
1. To know the name of the law firm immediately.
2. To know the exact location where the meeting will be held at least two weeks prior to the meeting. Contract in hand.
3. That we will not accept a phony recommendation from a phony law firm advising Rufus not to hold the meeting w/video and teleconferencing.
4. That we will not accept phony excuses that only a handful of selected stockholders who will be sworn to phony gag orders be allowed on the video and teleconferences, or that last minute technical difficulties prevented the conferencing.
Now some of you can nit-pick the crap out of numbers 3 & 4 all you like, but the rest makes perfect sense.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, so quit braggin about your great picks and read your PMs. Posted by Rhyz on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
No it wasn't directed at Rufus, I admire his him abit, quite ballsy. But I couldn't pass up on the statement. It was just a generalized statement concerning pennies in general.
I'm in on this stock and hope the outcome is good. I dont have alot in on it personally but I see alot of people that really put forth alot of money on it without doing any DD at all and just throwing the money at the hype. This was just a pure spec play for me with some spare cash.
Posted by wv1973 on :
orginally posted by humble:
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. ---------------------------------------------
Well, these boys are wrong in one respect. I worked in the natural gas industry for over 25 years, and I can tell you for a fact that methane is not a pollutant. Methane is cleanest form of carbon based fuels on this earth, burns clean with no pollution.
Posted by Rhyz on :
And Chart is correct, you can make money off any POS stock you want, they all run. Just a matter of when you play them.
Posted by GreenDay on :
Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
Posted by dollar13 on :
hey i just SAW , CSHD EOD "GREEN" Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: orginally posted by humble:
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. ---------------------------------------------
Well, these boys are wrong in one respect. I worked in the natural gas industry for over 25 years, and I can tell you for a fact that methane is not a pollutant. Methane is cleanest form of carbon based fuels on this earth, burns clean with no pollution.
Methane is a greenhouse gas and has its effect on the ozone.
And just cuz i was curious i found this....
"Carbon dioxide has a global warming potential (GWP) of 1 (over 100 years). Although less methane is emitted into the environment the global warming potential of methane is 21 times that of carbon dioxide (over 100 years)."
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
Yea, some of us saw the carbon credits coming before we saw Rufus coming. But, apparently FHAL couldnt pull it off so Rufus and his Merry bunch jumped in and hooked us up. Or somethin' Posted by wv1973 on :
It's not a negative greenhouse gas
Methane in Earth's atmosphere
Methane concentrations graph Computer models showing the amount of methane (parts per million by volume) at the surface (top) and in the stratosphere (bottom).Methane in the Earth's atmosphere is an important greenhouse gas with a Global warming potential of 23 over a 100 year period. Its concentration has increased by about 150% since 1750 and it accounts for 20% of the total radiative forcing from all of the long-lived and globally mixed greenhouse gases.[2]
The average concentration of methane at the Earth's surface in 1998 was 1,745 ppb.[3] Its concentration is higher in the northern hemisphere as most sources (both natural and human) are larger. The concentrations vary seasonally with a minimum in the late summer.
Methane is created near the surface, and it is carried into the stratosphere by rising air in the tropics. Uncontrolled build-up of methane in Earth's atmosphere is naturally checked—although human influence can upset this natural regulation—by methane's reaction with a molecule known as the hydroxyl radical, a hydrogen-oxygen molecule formed when single oxygen atoms react with water vapor.
Early in the Earth's history—about 3.5 billion years ago—there was 1,000 times as much methane in the atmosphere as there is now. The earliest methane was released into the atmosphere by volcanic activity. During this time, Earth's earliest life appeared. These first, ancient bacteria added to the methane concentration by converting hydrogen and carbon dioxide into methane and water. Oxygen did not become a major part of the atmosphere until photosynthetic organisms evolved later in Earth's history. With no oxygen, methane stayed in the atmosphere longer and at higher concentrations than it does today.
BUT -- Let's have some reaction to the National Press Club idea and forget about gas -- unless you ate beans.
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
Rufus is the bonds guy. His focus should be insuring that the company is properly set up with bond backing and then turn the reins over to a newly appointed CEO, one that would be better adapted to funding JV's. If I'm not mistaken, Rufus has stated that he tends to retire once CVSU is underway with the backing of the bonds. - IMO
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
On the same line as Carbon Credits I recently learned that here in Florida (don't know about anywhere else) there is a program similar to Carbon Credits but it is for Solar energy. It's totally feasable to put solar panels on my roof and the energy I create/save can be sold in the form of Solar credits. I may have the term incorrect but from my understanding this is already happenning. And the exchange is in Chicago.
I think the carbon credits can be HUGE also and it's nice to know that I never heard of them before until CSHD and M. Alexander was in the press release a few months ago. I went digging on the WWW and think we may really have something here with the Carbon Credits.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Wow "meaty" talk tonight, set off by Humble...
That was excellent Humble, who knows maybe someday I'll be flipp'n carbon credits on the CCX! lol ~
I learned alot with that, Thanks Humble...
Posted by harry06 on :
I don't know where to post this but here goes. What ever become of the person or person's that was talking about a stock pickers group or contest. It was on the form in Oct. almost everyday. I think the talk was to start the first of Nov. Was this all B___ S___? I am having trouble deciding who is the real deal on this form. If anybody knows anything I will be waiting for your post. THANKS
Posted by portman on :
this is not the same board I have been reading the last few days...what gives?
Did you all bathe in the blue shampoo?
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: this is not the same board I have been reading the last few days...what gives?
Did you all bathe in the blue shampoo?
WAITING FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE!!!! Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by harry06: I don't know where to post this but here goes. What ever become of the person or person's that was talking about a stock pickers group or contest. It was on the form in Oct. almost everyday. I think the talk was to start the first of Nov. Was this all B___ S___? I am having trouble deciding who is the real deal on this form. If anybody knows anything I will be waiting for your post. THANKS
You know, I think I saw something like a $1000 challenge somewhere... (looking)
[edit] I bet it was in the .11 and up forum, looks like that forum gets cleaned up periodically and if there was no recent interest in the thread it would have been pruned.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: this is not the same board I have been reading the last few days...what gives?
Did you all bathe in the blue shampoo?
No shampoo! CSHD finished GREEN. Amazing what 1 penny will do. Posted by a surfer on :
whats funny is that we close green the day after a filing was supposed to be out.
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
I had to run earlier but the lead in about the carbon credits really had more to do with the issue of the bonds and bond ownership than I was able to discuss.
It is entirely possible that the great question about why someone would "give" those monsterous bonds to CVSU rests in the potential to turn a new asset and relatively new market into immediate payback for the owners of those credits.
Carbon credits might be tradeable and valuable but they are only allotted year over year, meaning that there might be a ton of long term revenue but it will take time to recognize that income. Segue to someone like Rufus and CVSU who is an expert in asset backed securites and can offer a way to make that long term revenue work for the owners in a much shorter time frame. It might work something like this:
A bond is issued with the backing being the long term revenue stream of the carbon credits. The bond is hypothecated as needed to generate investment capitol. The JV money can bring an immediate return which will be split 50/50 between the bond owners and CVSU. Everyone wins, we get easy money and the owners of the sequestered land get to leverage their credits. Remember that so much of the really valuable pollution absorbing land is in places that are desperate for money.
Now I am no expert in bonds but I do know that if there is an emerging market that could provide an asset on my books that I never counted on I might be wiling to split some of the bounty with the middle man that could make this happen.
All of that being said, I do agree that some of our troubles could have been avoided. But looking to the future I am simply trying to think of how this great mystery could have a foundation in real possibilities.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by TimW on :
CSHD in my account now hit $0.00.
Problems with the CSHD symbol tonight i guess.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ahhh,... About that ADOT comment... Now I don't know the DD on it but if you look at what happened the last time this indicator passed the neutral line in the WEEKLY chart, you will see it is about to possibly do it again...
Not sticking up for ADOT's management (don't care), but it's chart is screaming that it's gonna blow again... That's what I like about flipping, you don't have to care about all that CEO BS.
Yeah well my last 48K shares of ADOT show a purchase price of $0.0047... Soooo...
I think I will still rate it a scam. LOL! Current price $0.0003 HA! I thought it was a great deal when I bought it. Sometimes you just don't get out in time.
With ADOT my wife finally had to step in and send me to gamblers annonomous. She said "No more money in ADOT! It was like I was averaging down every two weeks. I kept saying, "Honey you don't understand for the same amount I can triple the amount of shares we have. Eventually, I didn't even believe it I was just adding shares. HA HA!! OK!
ADOT is my "White Whale"! There I said it! I plan on making a crap load of money on CSHD and I am putting it all into ADOT so I can buy the controlling amount shares and then making myself a stupid 30 foot LCD Billboard to put in my living room so I can watch Bobby Knight slap college players at three times life!!!
OK... excuse me there the bad thoughts are gone.
Posted by milliam on :
I was really surprised by the strength of the pps with the volume we had today. I thought for sure we'd be at my next buy in point today (under $.10).
This place is looking up. I wouldn't have put all of the bad on "thesource", but things seem so much better with him gone.
Good luck to us all!
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: whats funny is that we close green the day after a filing was supposed to be out.
But how will this last? And when will there be a turn around? At what point do I get out and try to salvage some money out of this sinking ship? And what do I have left to believe in?
A CEO that was fired. His replacement quit. Us stuck on the grey sheets. No MM's want to file the necessary paperwork to quote us. A CEO that gives BBQ's instead of going into coart. Rapidly declining share prices. Promises of great things to come. A mysterious group of anonymous posters telling us that everything is going to work out. Failure to file necessary quarterly and yearly forms, sometimes not even on time. Statements saying that if paperwork was filed, the company would be seized. Shareholder committees praying for strength in the future battles.
All of those things make me question my believes in this stock. I have been long since July, longer than most here, and have never said a bad word about this stock. I held when it went over 3 bucks, thinking that it was going to do better than that. I believed that I was going to get 6 shares for ever 1 that I held October 16th. I should have gotten money out, played with free shares, covered my capitol. I didn't because I believed in this company.
There is very little right now that could make believe in this company anymore. I hate to say that, because that means that this whole thing was a scam. As St. Matt said that he looked into Rufus's eyes and believed him. I never got that opportunity. But I think that there are a lot of people who wished that they could have done that. I think that Rufus wanted to something good, but got blinded by all of the things he wanted to accomplish. Everyone else had the same things happen to them. Some got in early, and aren't hurting yet. Others got in late, and have lost almost everything. But everyone still believes.
Let me take that back. Almost everyone still believes.
I think I lost my beliefs this week. I may be wrong, and everything WILL work out as promised, but I really don't see that happening. Chalk it up to experience, and put it towards the next trade. I will be smarter, but it sure cost me a lot of money that I could have otherwise have had right now.
Unless I am wrong, which I would love to have someone point out to me. Please don't call me a basher. I am just someone who is a little short on faith on this stock right now.
Posted by Chart walker on :
funny stuff taxback ~ Seriously, when that MACD line as about to cross the 0 neutral line, "that's the time to buy those."
Look at the volume in the daily chart building lately, and look at the lower Weekly chart and what happens when that (PPO) MACD line crosses the neutral line line Look what happened last time!
You might be in for a big surprise coming up here. Won't be quick, but it does look like it's coming ~
Current price is between .0002 - 3 and money flow is positive and growing in strentgh...
POS or not, looks like the boats loading up, it really does! This is where PYPR was 10-11 months ago (not saying it'll get to .008), but it does look like something will happen IMO...
Wow, good luck!
-and I'm not pumping, this ones a slow ride...
"Time will tell all" Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: At what point do I get out and try to salvage some money out of this sinking ship?
Yesterday Man! What were you waiting for? Sorry ~
You sound like you are really uncomfortable. I would not like to be in your shoes.
I for one don't want to see anyone to be in over their head in this. We have always maintained that you should not trade money that makes you uncomfortable and always when possible protect your capital.
Posted by TimW on :
I chalked it up as a loss, moved on and played others that made me nearly as much money as i lost here at CSHD. I still hold my CSHD shares in case a miracle happens.
We cant make your decisions for you.. you only have yourself to praise or blame buddy.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Been there unclerudy...
Sometimes you gotta do what you feel is right, no one should look down on anyone's honest feelings. I wish you luck ~
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: An unintentionally funny post on HSM:
“Someone earlier mentioned a Class Action Lawsuit . If it comes down to that, please throw me on the list. Be sure not to do anything individually , because together we can all work as a team and probably reap rewards, or compensation for this mess”
Be sure not to do anything individually with your class action lawsuit. Huh! OK, I think!
T-money,
actually, that's about par, as far as logic goes...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: whats funny is that we close green the day after a filing was supposed to be out.
But how will this last? And when will there be a turn around? At what point do I get out and try to salvage some money out of this sinking ship? And what do I have left to believe in?
A CEO that was fired. His replacement quit. Us stuck on the grey sheets. No MM's want to file the necessary paperwork to quote us. A CEO that gives BBQ's instead of going into coart. Rapidly declining share prices. Promises of great things to come. A mysterious group of anonymous posters telling us that everything is going to work out. Failure to file necessary quarterly and yearly forms, sometimes not even on time. Statements saying that if paperwork was filed, the company would be seized. Shareholder committees praying for strength in the future battles.
All of those things make me question my believes in this stock. I have been long since July, longer than most here, and have never said a bad word about this stock. I held when it went over 3 bucks, thinking that it was going to do better than that. I believed that I was going to get 6 shares for ever 1 that I held October 16th. I should have gotten money out, played with free shares, covered my capitol. I didn't because I believed in this company.
There is very little right now that could make believe in this company anymore. I hate to say that, because that means that this whole thing was a scam. As St. Matt said that he looked into Rufus's eyes and believed him. I never got that opportunity. But I think that there are a lot of people who wished that they could have done that. I think that Rufus wanted to something good, but got blinded by all of the things he wanted to accomplish. Everyone else had the same things happen to them. Some got in early, and aren't hurting yet. Others got in late, and have lost almost everything. But everyone still believes.
Let me take that back. Almost everyone still believes.
I think I lost my beliefs this week. I may be wrong, and everything WILL work out as promised, but I really don't see that happening. Chalk it up to experience, and put it towards the next trade. I will be smarter, but it sure cost me a lot of money that I could have otherwise have had right now.
Unless I am wrong, which I would love to have someone point out to me. Please don't call me a basher. I am just someone who is a little short on faith on this stock right now.
how about we turn the questioning?
ie, do a 180?
At what point do the "longs/faithful" decide, in effect, "THAT'S IT, I'M DONE" ?????
Would CEO have to be in jail?
Would stock have been not trading with bid/ask for 6 months? for one year? for 5 years?
What are the limits, here?
Posted by Chart walker on :
Tex....
If I didn't DD all the players in this and was walking by and looked at it, I would laugh I think...
We may never know everything, but something is up here IMO...
My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!...
Common sense would dictate that a penny that has had this much chit thrown at it would be subpenny right now. Something will bust ~ [hope it's not my accounts! LOL]
One thing is for sure.... "Time will tell all..."
Good night Board ~ Still long! Posted by TimW on :
"My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!..."
Kool-Aid interlock devices installed on all brokerage accounts?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
I think the reason why there is not a lot of dumping in this stock is because there are what 4000+ shareholders, thats a lot of due diligence put into this stock, thousands of hours, I think chances are slim that everyone was wrong... yep sumtins up.....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Tex....
If I didn't DD all the players in this and was walking by and looked at it, I would laugh I think...
We may never know everything, but something is up here IMO...
My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!...
Common sense would dictate that a penny that has had this much chit thrown at it would be subpenny right now. Something will bust ~ [hope it's not my accounts! LOL]
One thing is for sure.... "Time will tell all..."
Good night Board ~ Still long!
not what I'm asking....
ie, i could reply about pps...
BUT that's *not* what I'm asking.
My question--probably to be repeated over 'n over again is this: At what point would "longs," "da faithful," the admitted "kool-aid crew" say :
"That's it?"
make sense?
Am looking for some sensibility regarding risk/reward...
ie: Is *there* ANY POINT at which the "faithful" say, "DAMMIT!"
Or...do the "faithful" hold on for 10, 20 years...??? Perhaps even longer, for future generations?
in other words, to you, Chart--
Is *there* any point possible at which you'd say, "Dadgummit, this reverses my opinion."
Do you "back the company," no what what?
OR... do you have limits?
Posted by wv1973 on :
If any one of you are directly associated with the company and/or has direct contact w/ Rufus, there is a perfect place to hold a meeting in Washington, DC. Any business can rent meeting spaces at the National Press Club -- I know because I have set up several meetings and press conferences there in my corporate life.
This will assure that there will be no screw ups with the video and teleconference and you can even invite the financial press because they all have offices in DC. The National Press Club is set up to handle everything involved in this type of meeting.
If this is on the level and not a scam, let's all be in agreement that we have a right:
1. To know the name of the law firm immediately.
2. To know the exact location where the meeting will be held at least two weeks prior to the meeting. Contract in hand.
3. That we will not accept a phony recommendation from a phony law firm advising Rufus not to hold the meeting w/video and teleconferencing.
4. That we will not accept phony excuses that only a handful of selected stockholders who will be sworn to phony gag orders be allowed on the video and teleconferences, or that last minute technical difficulties prevented the conferencing.
Now some of you can nit-pick the crap out of numbers 3 & 4 all you like, but the rest makes perfect sense.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: If any one of you are directly associated with the company and/or has direct contact w/ Rufus, there is a perfect place to hold a meeting in Washington, DC. Any business can rent meeting spaces at the National Press Club -- I know because I have set up several meetings and press conferences there in my corporate life.
This will assure that there will be no screw ups with the video and teleconference and you can even invite the financial press because they all have offices in DC. The National Press Club is set up to handle everything involved in this type of meeting.
If this is on the level and not a scam, let's all be in agreement that we have a right:
1. To know the name of the law firm immediately.
2. To know the exact location where the meeting will be held at least two weeks prior to the meeting. Contract in hand.
3. That we will not accept a phony recommendation from a phony law firm advising Rufus not to hold the meeting w/video and teleconferencing.
4. That we will not accept phony excuses that only a handful of selected stockholders who will be sworn to phony gag orders be allowed on the video and teleconferences, or that last minute technical difficulties prevented the conferencing.
Now some of you can nit-pick the crap out of numbers 3 & 4 all you like, but the rest makes perfect sense.
so, you're saying...one of your "no matter whats" is is the company follows your list--is that right?
What if they don't?
Posted by wv1973 on :
Tex, it's not a no matter what anything. It's a suggestion to the company where something could be held so there will be no excuses for technical screw-ups and suggestions as to what shareholders have a right to know and accept. That's all.
Posted by portman on :
Tex...I am just too tired to reply...lol
early night for me...12:23....that's gonna feel so good for once...
and I am off tomorrow!
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Tex....
If I didn't DD all the players in this and was walking by and looked at it, I would laugh I think...
We may never know everything, but something is up here IMO...
My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!...
Common sense would dictate that a penny that has had this much chit thrown at it would be subpenny right now. Something will bust ~ [hope it's not my accounts! LOL]
One thing is for sure.... "Time will tell all..."
Good night Board ~ Still long!
not what I'm asking....
ie, i could reply about pps...
BUT that's *not* what I'm asking.
My question--probably to be repeated over 'n over again is this: At what point would "longs," "da faithful," the admitted "kool-aid crew" say :
"That's it?"
make sense?
Am looking for some sensibility regarding risk/reward...
ie: Is *there* ANY POINT at which the "faithful" say, "DAMMIT!"
Or...do the "faithful" hold on for 10, 20 years...??? Perhaps even longer, for future generations?
in other words, to you, Chart--
Is *there* any point possible at which you'd say, "Dadgummit, this reverses my opinion."
Do you "back the company," no what what?
OR... do you have limits?
I may not be part of the crew but I will answer logically. If CSHD does not hire an attorney and answer in court to the SEC motions, It's over. Turn out the lights. IMHO, at this point in time that is the turning point. I doubt that any Market maker or broker will touch this stock until that is done.
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: "My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!..."
Kool-Aid interlock devices installed on all brokerage accounts?
I don't know but could it be possible that since many people have pulled certificates that they have not had the opportunity to sell? Just a thought not stating this as a fact but something to consider.
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
I have no idea how this will all end up. Yet I have to say that we are further from golden than we are from paupers. I don't adhere to some of the negative posts that have recently over run this board. I just wish that some of the posters had more class than to revel in the misfortune of people that did believe in this company, many of whom still do. I don't mind negative comments as long as there is a basis to them. IE: constructive criticism. I can do without the I'm so smart, I told you so. On the other hand I can also do without the I trust Rufus posts. Trusting Rufus to this point has gotten the stock suspended by the SEC and a motion for a default judgement. Not a great track record.
Once an attorney has been retained to answer the allegations and the allegations have been answered I would be willing to give Rufus a bit of rope but until then, I'm all out of rope. Committees and talks of how exciting the next week will be is nothing but HOT air to me. Answer the motion, take action.
A step in the right direction will do much more to silence the oppostion and instill a modicum of shareholder faith.
GLTA Wally
Posted by highhopes on :
quote:Originally posted by humble: I have spent some time trying to continue researching CSHD connections and really digging into them. There is some really interesting stuff related to the potential value of the Ecowood project in Brazil, as well as the value of sequestered land in all of South America, in general.
Combine the value of pollution credits with the ability to draw down on the value of the future revenue for these credits (asset back securities - CSHD) and the possibilities are simply staggering. An entire new market is unfolding as we speak and CSHD is positioned to help underdeveloped and cash-poor countries get cash out of those newly recognized assets.
How big could this get? Here is some literature from a hedge fund prospectus (anyone recognize the exchange from a previous discussion):
"A carbon exchange is like a stock exchange for pollution. The idea of trading in greenhouse gases has its roots in the Kyoto Protocol. This is the international treaty to reduce levels of gases that trap heat and are linked to climate change.
The Chicago Climate Exchange is known as the CCX. It provides a market for businesses to trade on the release and capture of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide.
Market forces drive the price of the credits. The credits are called Carbon Financial Instruments. Each credit is equal to one hundred metric tons of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas.
By this December, members of the CCX are supposed to have reduced their emissions four percent below levels in a baseline period. That period is nineteen ninety-eight to two thousand one. A six percent reduction is the target for two thousand ten.
The CCX was the first carbon exchange when it opened in two thousand three. Today it is the only exchange of its kind in North America. In Europe, big producers of greenhouse gases are required to take part in emissions trading. The CCX owns the European Climate Exchange, in the Netherlands.
No one is required to take part in the Chicago Climate Exchange. But those who do are legally required to observe their emission agreements and the rules of the exchange.
Richard Sandor started the CCX. He helped develop the financial futures market for the Chicago Board of Trade. Mister Sandor has said he thinks the market for carbon credits could one day be larger than the market for oil."
Sounds like an easy sell to me. Hey Country A, want to make a ton of cash right now for something you did not even no you had until recently, and do not want to deal with anyway? Thought so. Sign here please.
This is all speculation relative to CSHD but the idea and possibility is entirely sound. Someone is going to do it in short order.
... In My humble Opinion
Wow! This is great stuff. For the first time I am able to start to see how this works. From the start I have been troubled by the question "why would anyone fund Rufus at the level these bond represent"? I believed the bonds were real but just could not get my head around why?
What makes less sense to me is if such a strong play was in the works why all the dramatics surrounding this stock have happened. Questions include
- Why was the short play wrapped into this? - Why was Mike unable to push ahead? Why bring Rufus back in? - Is there a political issue here where government officials are catching on to the business "loophole" created by the carbon credits and are not sure they like the results?
One could certainly argue that the government would not be very interested in supporting players like Rufus getting into funding arrangements with Central American countries.
Also this would make sense relative to Rufus stepping aside once the funding model is done. Clearly he is not the person that is going to assess JV's for future investment.
But one asks why the grass roots nature of this project? With a play this strong wouldn't you think the "shares" are sold in conference rooms to a few players with deep pockets?
Lots to think about!
Posted by highhopes on :
The European Union Emission Trading Scheme (EU ETS) is the largest multi-national, greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme in the world. Under the scheme, each participating country proposes a National Allocation Plan (NAP) including caps on greenhouse gas emissions for power plants and other large point sources. The NAP must subsequently be approved by the European Commission.- Wikipedia
Europe is by far the leader in this area. Bonds issued in the European market...makes sense. Trips to Europe...makes sense.
Posted by 3403 on :
Good morning all. Woke up refreshed and full of hope. Should be gone by 2 or 3 pm.
Posted by unclerudy on :
Good morning everyone. I had some thoughts while I was in the shower (I guess that hotel commercial is correct).
If WE dictate the price, because WE have no MM's giving a bid/ask, then we can set the price however we want. The price is set by whoever made the last trade. What we need to do is get that last trade to be much closer to the value of what everyone thinks that the stock is actually worth. And we could do that very simply. We will just need to act as our own MM.
Normally the MM represents a group of people, and puts out all of their offers for stocks. Offers to buy at a certain price, offers to sell at a certain price. They control who meets up and who buys from whom.
Now, we need to do the same thing. For all of the people who are invested in this, if they where willing to set a portion of their shares at a higher price, say 1.98, to sell. Most people would want to do that, and get back to pre-halt value. Now having a group of people willing to sell at that price will always exist. What they need is a group of people to BUY at that price. So for all of us who have a stake in this stock, it would cost us the cost of a commision, plus the share price for X number of shares.
Now as I said earlier, it is the last trade that sets the value of the stock, and not the number of shares traded. If we had enough people trading shares at the higher value, enough times during the day, we might be able to maintain the PPS that we want. Others might join in and try to buy at that value, and it will keep the process moving.
All that it will take is a group of dedicated investors that is willing to lose the price of a few commissions. If we have enough people doing this, WE will set the market as WE wish, and the price will be what WE want.
Just something to think about, trying to find a way to salvage everyones investments. Call me crazy, but this is how the market works, and it could happen.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Good morning everyone. I had some thoughts while I was in the shower (I guess that hotel commercial is correct).
If WE dictate the price, because WE have no MM's giving a bid/ask, then we can set the price however we want. The price is set by whoever made the last trade. What we need to do is get that last trade to be much closer to the value of what everyone thinks that the stock is actually worth. And we could do that very simply. We will just need to act as our own MM.
Normally the MM represents a group of people, and puts out all of their offers for stocks. Offers to buy at a certain price, offers to sell at a certain price. They control who meets up and who buys from whom.
Now, we need to do the same thing. For all of the people who are invested in this, if they where willing to set a portion of their shares at a higher price, say 1.98, to sell. Most people would want to do that, and get back to pre-halt value. Now having a group of people willing to sell at that price will always exist. What they need is a group of people to BUY at that price. So for all of us who have a stake in this stock, it would cost us the cost of a commision, plus the share price for X number of shares.
Now as I said earlier, it is the last trade that sets the value of the stock, and not the number of shares traded. If we had enough people trading shares at the higher value, enough times during the day, we might be able to maintain the PPS that we want. Others might join in and try to buy at that value, and it will keep the process moving.
All that it will take is a group of dedicated investors that is willing to lose the price of a few commissions. If we have enough people doing this, WE will set the market as WE wish, and the price will be what WE want.
Just something to think about, trying to find a way to salvage everyones investments. Call me crazy, but this is how the market works, and it could happen.
Hey wait was that a kool-aid shower.. No J/k
Actually Rufus has been saying this for months.
Now to translate it to our accounts is another thing.
Somehow there are shares being sold at these levels. Who is selling them? are they shares just being flipped around and around??
At some point if they are not gettting any new shares your point seems very logical.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
On the subject of Carbon Credits I received this in my morning emails. Just trying to share info so we may all learn something but as I said last night, I think the Carbon Credits have major $$ possibilities.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANALYSIS - Carbon Price Remains Elusive after UN Talks
LONDON - A clear, global carbon price remains elusive after United Nations talks last week hinted at a climate change deal no sooner than 2009 -- uncertainty which undermines the drive to make industry invest in clean energy.
Carbon prices are meant to impose a cost on emitting the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming, and so drive countries, businesses and individuals to clean up.
One way of achieving such a price is through carbon markets, which put an overall limit on emissions but allow participants busting their caps to buy rights to emit greenhouse gases from those within their limits.
A carbon market already exists through the Kyoto Protocol, which caps 36 industrialised countries emissions -- but it does not set caps on three of the world's top four culprits: the United States, China and India.
Fears that emissions caps constrain industry and so competitiveness are hampering global agreement on a new deal after present Kyoto rules expire in 2012, a deal which would allow industry to estimate the future price of carbon and invest accordingly.
"If we don't make a set of numbers by at least 2009 then the chances of the (carbon) market functioning in 2012 will be very slim indeed," said Henry Derwent, director of Climate, Energy and Environmental Risk at Britain's environment ministry, speaking at a Euromoney-backed energy conference in London.
But 2009 is not soon enough for some.
"I think 2009 is two years too late," said Neil Eckert, Chief Executive of Climate Exchange PLC, which wholly owns the European Climate Exchange and the Chicago Climate Exchange.
URGENT
Policymakers want industry to direct some of the vast investment in new energy supplies now needed -- some US$20 trillion by 2030 according to the International Energy Agency -- into clean energy like renewables.
"The world needs to act quicker than the UN can change its rules," Eckert told Reuters, pointing to the voluntary commitment of some US cities and corporates to cut their emissions, even though the United States pulled out of Kyoto-style national cuts in 2001.
Last week Britain pledged to put into law its goal of cutting carbon emissions by 60 percent by 2050, seen as a way of showing industry carbon limits were here to stay regardless of UN deals.
At U.N talks last week in Nairobi some 189 countries and over 70 environment ministers could not agree to a deadline to reach a global climate deal, only agreeing to complete necessary analysis by 2008, hinting at a deal in 2009.
"What kind of ambition levels governments are likely to have is what matters (to industry)," said Kirsty Hamilton, consultant to the Business Council for Sustainable Energy and author of a survey of business views on Kyoto.
"It would have been better if they'd firmed up a deadline."
PROGRESS
The United States reiterated in Nairobi its preference to invest in clean energy technologies than sign up to legally binding emissions caps, a view that discourages carbon market advocates.
"We must have the United States in, and we must have an agreement in 2008 or 2009," said Janos Pasztor, the UN official who oversees the bulk of carbon trading under Kyoto.
On the positive side at Nairobi, Canada did not rule out meeting its Kyoto goals, which it had previously said were unachieveable, potentially unleashing a big source of demand for emissions rights.
And Australia said it wanted to form a nationwide carbon market which it could plug into similar schemes.
"It is very exciting and very encouraging," said Andrei Marcu, president of the International Emissions Trading Association.
Story by Gerard Wynn
Story Date: 22/11/2006
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Good morning everyone. I had some thoughts while I was in the shower (I guess that hotel commercial is correct).
If WE dictate the price, because WE have no MM's giving a bid/ask, then we can set the price however we want. The price is set by whoever made the last trade. What we need to do is get that last trade to be much closer to the value of what everyone thinks that the stock is actually worth. And we could do that very simply. We will just need to act as our own MM.
Normally the MM represents a group of people, and puts out all of their offers for stocks. Offers to buy at a certain price, offers to sell at a certain price. They control who meets up and who buys from whom.
Now, we need to do the same thing. For all of the people who are invested in this, if they where willing to set a portion of their shares at a higher price, say 1.98, to sell. Most people would want to do that, and get back to pre-halt value. Now having a group of people willing to sell at that price will always exist. What they need is a group of people to BUY at that price. So for all of us who have a stake in this stock, it would cost us the cost of a commision, plus the share price for X number of shares.
Now as I said earlier, it is the last trade that sets the value of the stock, and not the number of shares traded. If we had enough people trading shares at the higher value, enough times during the day, we might be able to maintain the PPS that we want. Others might join in and try to buy at that value, and it will keep the process moving.
All that it will take is a group of dedicated investors that is willing to lose the price of a few commissions. If we have enough people doing this, WE will set the market as WE wish, and the price will be what WE want.
Just something to think about, trying to find a way to salvage everyones investments. Call me crazy, but this is how the market works, and it could happen.
"Call me crazy"
You said it, not me.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Good Morning board ~
I believe Rufus has ALWAYS had talks with lawyers, I also believe that now he has signed one and is putting HIM on the front line. I believed it's the same one we talked about right here just a week or so ago..
I believe Rufus has a best friend who is in the government, I believe Rufus has ties to other companies/friends whom could "wash each others hands" and BOTH can come out "golden" (Humble touched on some of those yesterday, this would include Mike Alexander) as well as friends with finance companies and such.
I believe there IS something in the works and that that anouncement will be forthcoming, -possibly in DC on the 17th. I believe the bonds are real, I believe Mike Alexander KNOWS we are in the right, but also that there will be a fight. I believe we will have a new CEO -possibly learn about that more at DC, one who already owns and has companies and investments.
And a Million other etc's......
I also don't think we are having a meeting in DC to have it announced that the company is folding...
I also believe I'm going to EAT like a PIG this Thanksgiving!
Paper trails, records, documents, emails and calls have lead me to believe that this isn't over yet. The only ones who are bailing are the ones that sit back and DON'T DD info, the info IS there, the trails are there, the connections ARE there.
Will Rufus let someone dismantle all this? -Is that the Rufus we know?... -no ~
As far as the next "benchmark" that would be DC.
I'm kicking back and waiting to see what comes of it... Once I get to that mountaintop I'll be able to see what lays ahead ~
I'm done! Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by highhopes: The European Union Emission Trading Scheme (EU ETS) is the largest multi-national, greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme in the world. Under the scheme, each participating country proposes a National Allocation Plan (NAP) including caps on greenhouse gas emissions for power plants and other large point sources. The NAP must subsequently be approved by the European Commission.- Wikipedia
Europe is by far the leader in this area. Bonds issued in the European market...makes sense. Trips to Europe...makes sense.
Yes, the more I drilled into this the more things keep pooping up that might be coincidental but also could be placed alongside clues we have been given as things have developed. Chicago Commodities markets, Washington, Europe, IFC/World Bank/UNESCO and friends in high places, Brazil and Venezuela, helping humanity, and most of all huge dollar figures? These are a lot of seemingly disparate and far-flung pieces to try to fit together.
The only thing close to a common thread I have found so far begins with these pollution credits and the reletively new financial instrument that Rufus specializes in, asset backed securities. Not saying there is any glue holding this together, just that it is interesting relative to what we "know".
By the way, the ABS instrument could be applied to all kinds of situations, including disaster mitigation and cash flow solutions for orgs/countries with stable industries like oil/energy, agriculture and even tourism.
Now let's get trading again and see where this is going.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by humble on :
That would be "popping up". Happy holidays all.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Good morning all. Woke up refreshed and full of hope. Should be gone by 2 or 3 pm.
I will give it till lunch time!!! Posted by Mantux on :
Does anyone have an E*Trade account that's showing a price of $1.065? My level IIs are showing $.20 but my account is looking much better.
Posted by Gullible on :
Mantux I have E Trade, called them yesterday about my account balance being wrong, and they said they were having Technical Difficulties. It is messed up again this morning.
Posted by RushDaBus on :
Me too. E*Trade has these problems during off hours.
Posted by coollbreezz on :
SEC being investigated
SEC to Undergo Further Scrutiny From Congress By KARA SCANNELL November 21, 2006; Page C5
WASHINGTON -- The Securities and Exchange Commission, already under fire for its handling of a suspected insider-trading case, will receive more congressional scrutiny next month when the Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on the agency's effectiveness.
Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the committee until the new Democrat-controlled Congress convenes in January, has scheduled an oversight hearing on the SEC for Dec. 5.
The hearing comes as the SEC has been on the defensive since Sen. Specter and Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) said they were investigating the agency's handling of an insider-trading investigation involving hedge fund Pequot Capital Management and John Mack, the chief executive of Morgan Stanley. The matter, which was brought to their attention by a former SEC attorney, was referred to the Government Accountability Office for a thorough review of the SEC's enforcement division.
Linda Chatman Thomsen, the SEC's enforcement chief, is expected to testify at the hearing. Pequot founder Arthur Samberg has been notified of the hearing, according to a person familiar with the matter. It is unclear if Sen. Specter will compel his testimony. A spokesman for Pequot declined to comment.
Sen. Specter is expected to discuss the ability of the Justice Department to work with the SEC on investigations, following two court rulings that criticized the agencies for working too closely. He is also likely to discuss hedge funds, which he has said require tough enforcement.
It follows two hearings Sen. Specter held earlier this year. The first focused on hedge funds and short-selling activities, and Gary Aguirre, a former SEC attorney, testified about the SEC's handling of the Pequot investigation. Mr. Aguirre says he was fired after he sought to compel the testimony of Mr. Mack, who he suspected of tipping inside information to Pequot about a pending takeover. Mr. Aguirre has charged that the SEC denied his interview request because of Mr. Mack's political connections, and he said the agency allowed insider-trading referrals to gather dust, allegations the SEC has denied. Mr. Mack testified before the SEC this summer, and the agency said last month it wouldn't file charges against Pequot or Mr. Mack.
Sen. Specter has criticized the SEC's diligence in following up on insider-trading referrals from exchanges. The SEC says 75% of referrals become informal probes.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Good morning board- I saw a lot of good discussion last night. Good thing I wasn't here eh? We got something productive accomplished
Mantux- My etrade is all messed up. It shows a closing of .20 in the portfolio for CSHD but shows a 0 value on the front page. Yesterday it was showing me .19 on the portfolio value and a 2.20pps on the front value net asset page.
I guess we already covered methane- I didn't know cows and termites produce more methane than humans. I thought for sure my grandpa was in the running for that title Posted by frank021474 on :
Chart you got a PM
Posted by new2stocks on :
good morning board
Posted by bigstocks on :
good morning all.
Posted by 6digits on :
good morning bored
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
gobble, gobble
Posted by 6digits on :
It would be nice to get a little gravy in a PR form Rufus to put on my mashed potatos.
Posted by SherriT on :
Hi everyone!
Posted by TexasMoney on :
It is too early in the morning for me to consider Rufus' gravy.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: It would be nice to get a little gravy in a PR form Rufus to put on my mashed potatos.
Posted by coollbreezz on :
SEC = Good Old-Fashioned Fraud
Investing 101 - Jul 13, 2005 - Printable Version
- Forget SEC "Regulations".... This is Good Old-Fashioned Fraud by Mark Faulk
It's been over a year since the SEC approved Regulation SHO, designed to supposedly alleviate the illegal prectice of naked short selling, in which billions of shares of counterfeit stock are sold short, or borrowed, but never delivered to their rightful owners.
As this fraud has grown exponentially, millions of stockholders who have bought stock in companies have discovered that the stock that they purchased has never been delivered to their accounts. Time after time, investors have requested their stock certificates, only to be told by their brokers that they can't deliver them.....because they never bought them in the first place. The excuses for failure to deliver what stockholders have bought and paid for are varied and numerous, but in the end, they are no more valid than "the dog ate my homework", or in this case, "the DTCC trade settlement system ate your stock certificates".
The band-aid that the SEC applied to the problem in the form of Reg SHO has done absolutely nothing to stem the flow of counterfeit shares being dumped onto the stock market, and in fact, has just served to point out just how rampant this scandal is, as numerous companies, both large and and small, have been on the "trade settlement failure" list since day one.....over 140 days and counting. That's 140 days (and who knows how long before the list was published) that stocks have been bought and sold to investors by brokers who NEVER DELIVERED THEM. (Remember that phrase: NEVER DELIVERED)
While the NASD has done nothing but make lame excuses and deny responsibility (even thought their own loopholes have helped to create this financial nightmare in our stock market system), thousands of hedge funds and their ultra-rich clientele have reaped the benefits of stock counterfeiting, by short selling billions of shares of counterfeit stock with absolutely no intention of ever delivering those shares, and the SEC has in effect pardoned all past transgressions by "grandfathering" in all past trade settlement failures, and by constantly changing their interpretations of their own regulations to fit the crimes.
If this betrayal of the very investors who they are pledged to protect weren't enough, the SEC, in concert with the DTCC, has initiated a covert crusade to convince the states to eliminate paper stock certificates altogether, leaving investors with absolutely no way to of knowing if the stock that they've bought and paid for has been delivered to them, or if brokers are buying and selling them imaginary stock created out of thin air, stock THAT THEY NEVER DELIVER.
And Congress, who could step in at any time and put a halt to this massive fraud, this financial terrorism, this systematic dismantling of our economy and financial institutions, has, up to now, been all talk and absolutely no action. Oh sure, there have been some public displays of indignation, as far back as March of this year, and a few brave souls on Capitol Hill have spoken out, but so far, that's all that we've heard.....talk. In the meantime, billions and billions of dollars continues to pour out of America into offshore hedge funds and foreign entities, and there is compelling evidence that much of it is finding its way into organized crime syndicates and known terrorist groups. As I said earlier, this is financial terrorism, nothing less. (Note to our elected representatives: Actions speak louder than words.....especially your words.)
Investors and the companies involved have, in the meantime, been left with nothing......no shares, no money, and little recourse other than costly class action lawsuits. If the SEC is allowing the perpetrators to sidestep existing rules, and constantly reinterpreting their own rules to cover their own culpability in the fraud, what can be done to stop it, short of waiting for the inevitable collapse of the stock market system itself?
It's simple.....forget about the SEC regulations, forget about the self-regulating NASD, and forget about the DTCC's flawed trade settlement system. This is nothing more than good old-fashioned fraud, no different than any other type of fraud.
The news is filled with the stories of con artists convicted of internet fraud, mail fraud, or wire fraud:
A man in Salt Lake City pleads guilty to defrauding Internet customers of more than $200,000 by selling car parts that he didn't own, and THAT HE NEVER DELIVERED....he faces up to 20 years in prison.
A man in California is indicted for defrauding eBay users of more than $93,000 in auctions for sprorts tickets and rolex watches.....THAT HE NEVER DELIVERED.
In Maine, a man is convicted of accepting personal checks, bank checks, money orders, wire transfer payments and PayPal payments on eBay for merchandise THAT HE NEVER DELIVERED, and for failing to provide refunds. He was sentenced to six years in prison and forced to pay back his victims. (Is anyone else seeing a pattern here? On eBay, the buyer pays for their merchandise, and if the seller doesn't deliver it, they're arrested and they go to prison. It sounds simple enough, doesn't it?)
And just last month, a man right here in Oklahoma pleaded guilty to selling tickets to sporting events and concerts....THAT HE NEVER DELIVERED. Although he "only" defrauded his victims out of a total of $21,000, he faces up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
The list goes on and on. In every case, the victims pay for their tickets, merchandise, or services, and in every case, the seller fails to deliver the items. There is absolutely no difference between the thousands of people convicted of these types of fraud and the brokers, hedge funds, and everyone else who is taking money from investors in exchange for shares of stock.....THAT THEY NEVER DELIVER.
When a stock transaction is conducted over the internet, and the stock is never delivered.....that's Internet fraud. The perpetrators should be arrested and sent to prison.
When a brokerage firm accepts money wired into accounts and buys stock with it that is never delivered.....that's wire fraud. They should be arrested, forced to pay restitution.....and sent to prison.
When an investor sends a check or money order to their stockbroker, and their broker uses the money from that check or money order to buy shares of stock that are never delivered to the investors' accounts.....that's mail fraud. They should be arrested, fined heavily.....AND SENT TO PRISON.
It's time we stop looking at stock market fraud as a practice that is immune to any law other than the SEC's own worthless regulations. It's time that every one of us demand delivery of the stock that is rightfully ours, while we still can. It's time we stopped allowing the brokers and hedge funds to play by their own rigged rules, and see this for what it really is....FRAUD, by any definition of the law.
And THAT'S the Faulking Truth.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Did you guys see this...in Forbes
On My Mind The Irrelevant SEC Edward Siedle 11.27.06, 12:00 AM ET
In bed with the industry it's supposed to regulate, it needs a shakeup.
the senate finance committee and the Government Accountability Office are both taking a harsh look at the Securities & Exchange Commission. It's about time. One thing on the agenda is the SEC's questionable handling of an insider trading case involving a $7 billion hedge fund. But the bigger issue is that the federal agency charged with safeguarding investors is on the verge of becoming irrelevant. If you want protection from investment pitfalls, you're going to get it from the private sector.
Here's what's wrong with the SEC.
Political pressures Look who gets chosen for the important job of SEC commissioner. Not those with established records for fighting on behalf of investors. Rather, the post routinely goes to insiders, especially those who have devoted their careers to representing financial services firms. Former SEC chairman William Donaldson, cofounder of investment bank Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette, is one prominent example. Below the commissioner level, directors of divisions within the agency, such as market regulation and investment management, are also chosen according to how chummy they are with Wall Street's big guys.
The speed with which SEC managers find comfortable quarters within the industry after their period of government service is powerful evidence of how seldom these professionals seriously oppose the institutions they are supposed to regulate. Paul Roye, for example, worked as a lawyer representing the fund business before becoming its chief overseer at the SEC. Meanwhile, one of his former law firm superiors, Paul Haaga, became the industry's chief lobbyist. After the fund business stumbled into the biggest scandal in its history under this duo a few years ago, Roye rejoined Haaga at mutual fund giant Capital Research.
Reliance on self-regulation The commission is ever more willing to allow the brokerage industry to self-insure, self-adjudicate (through mandatory arbitration) and even control public access to the brokerage industry's criminal and disciplinary histories. Self-regulation involves an insurmountable conflict of interest and results in thousands of instances of avoidable fraud each year.
One almost laughable example of lame self-regulation: the BrokerCheck Program, run by the National Association of Securities Dealers, the brokerage industry's self-regulator. The NASD says it "should be your first resource to learn about the professional background, registration/license statuses and conduct of NASD-registered firms and their registered brokers." Would you believe that the program does not permit a broker or firm to respond "yes" to the question of whether the broker or firm has any disciplinary matters in his or its past? Only two answers are permitted: "no" and, get this, "maybe." That's what we call industry-friendly. For all of $5,000, I put together a disciplinary database a few years ago that showed the NASD underreports brokerage industry misbehavior by about 85%. Since the NASD blocked me in court from publishing it, investors remain perilously uninformed.
Transparency The SEC has allowed the financial industry to control the content and timeliness of disclosures to the public. For example, most of the SEC's money manager investigations uncover "deficiencies," some of them involving serious misbehavior. But the commission refuses to make its findings available.
Follow-through In May 2005 the SEC staff issued a report on conflicts of interest in the pension consulting industry. The staff concluded that the industry was subject to rampant conflicts and disclosure was abysmal. Were pension sponsors who may have suffered harm ever privy to the financial information the pension consulting industry provided to the SEC? Nope. Instead the SEC issued a vague warning to pension sponsors to more carefully scrutinize the investment consultants they hire.
This agency spends $888 million a year. If it were subject to disclosure laws the SEC would have to admit it could get a lot more bang for taxpayers' buck were it not so compromised by conflict of interest.
Edward Siedle, a former SEC Attorney and the President of Benchmark Financial Services.
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Posted by St. Matthew on :
If I didn't DD all the players in this and was walking by and looked at it, I would laugh I think...
We may never know everything, but something is up here IMO...
My God, all this crap hitting the fan and there hasn't been a massive dumping of shares with huge volume, why?!...
Common sense would dictate that a penny that has had this much chit thrown at it would be subpenny right now. Something will bust ~ [hope it's not my accounts! LOL]
One thing is for sure.... "Time will tell all..."
Good night Board ~ Still long!
not what I'm asking....
ie, i could reply about pps...
BUT that's *not* what I'm asking.
My question--probably to be repeated over 'n over again is this: At what point would "longs," "da faithful," the admitted "kool-aid crew" say :
"That's it?"
make sense?
Am looking for some sensibility regarding risk/reward...
ie: Is *there* ANY POINT at which the "faithful" say, "DAMMIT!"
Or...do the "faithful" hold on for 10, 20 years...??? Perhaps even longer, for future generations?
in other words, to you, Chart--
Is *there* any point possible at which you'd say, "Dadgummit, this reverses my opinion."
Do you "back the company," no what what?
OR... do you have limits?
Nicely put Tex. I think lots of these folks still don't understand the ? and will continue to ignore it. I have always recommended "free shares" with many ignoring that and falling in "love" with this stock. Hurts now huh!?!
I lost a small bit on this POS so I'm not worried about it and I could afford to lose it.
IMHO if you are buying more you are filling the pockets of Rufus and friends with Christmas dough. Really a lifetime of dough......
PLEASE DON'T INVEST MORE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHATS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES. YOUR ARE A FOOL TO DO SO. No market makers with PPS at .15cents... <-- That says enough in itself.
Promises, promises, promises = FAILED FAILED FAILED
Posted by MTPromises on :
yah, I saw that, too, TM. Most of my days seem like a blur - so, I had to check my calendar to make sure I wasn't losing my mind!
Posted by Chart walker on :
ok Texasmoney no more kool-aid for you! lol ~~
Posted by frank021474 on :
Ludicrous speed! LOL!
I think my fav part in that movie is when they were combing the desert. "We ain't found chit"
Posted by Doniboy on :
Obscure Spaceballs reference....nice.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: “ludicrous speed”
Posted by St. Matthew on :
It seems like the illegal activities since the dawn of internet trading might be catching up to the SEC.
Just don't know if it's a case of the tortoise and the hare or will it be a 4 x 4 relay?
Posted by 6digits on :
We were doing OK till the SEC punks came along. I can't say where we would be now if they did'nt but I think we would have been better off.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Posted by SherriT on :
Would be a very nice Christmas present if those congressional hearings really get the ball rolling...
OT: Anyone got any good picks for the day? Looks really slow...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Would be a very nice Christmas present if those congressional hearings really get the ball rolling...
OT: Anyone got any good picks for the day? Looks really slow...
CYBL running.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Posted by TimW on :
My two fav money makers for this week are IBCX and BANY.
I had some $ on IBCX today, up 42% on news of share reduction.
Jumped out for now.. Im playing safe to rebuild my funds and jumping out whenever anything is over 20%.
BANY is down 25% now after a 420% or so run.
Details on each can be found in the pennies forum i believe.
Posted by 3403 on :
It seems to me that many here make plays on runs. Doesn't seem to matter much if the company is anything more then a shell, idea, or scam. As long as there is a momentary spread to capture a little profit on, everything is fine. The average Joe who assumes the company is for real is duped into loosing money for the benefit of those who know the game. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Posted by 6digits on :
You have learned well grasshopper.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
3403-
You're naive if you think that playing the pennies is anything more than a speculator's game. If you find a company you actually believe in, play the run, exit into free shares as quickly as possible, and see what happens. Only fools play pennies as buy-and-hold stocks.
Posted by CRab on :
The entire market is pretty sick...and the more money that's involved the sicker it gets...but it's what we have to work with...
Posted by SherriT on :
OT: APPI seems to be doing nicely too...
Posted by 6digits on :
Shareholder:Registration will end 11/23/2006 5pm Eastern. FWIW
Posted by 66inxs on :
good post kevin. i have made pretty good money flipping stocks i don't even know what the symbol stands for. of course, i don't hold them very long!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Is this another quote I can "count on"?...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Shareholder:Registration will end 11/23/2006 5pm Eastern.
I know we have hashed this out a lot already because of the information requested, but how many are signing up for the shareholder group? I had originally - haven't done it again as yet.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 3403-
You're naive if you think that playing the pennies is anything more than a speculator's game. If you find a company you actually believe in, play the run, exit into free shares as quickly as possible, and see what happens. Only fools play pennies as buy-and-hold stocks.
I applaud you Sir!!! You are very correct and this is for ALL pennystocks, which are $5 and below. VERY WELL PUT!
Posted by 6digits on :
I signed up, the amount of info is'nt going to cause more thaan some spam mail, maybe not. The company knows the number on your certificate any way if you have one, whether you tell them or not. What ever, no big deal. I'm not worried about it.
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Shareholder:Registration will end 11/23/2006 5pm Eastern.
I know we have hashed this out a lot already because of the information requested, but how many are signing up for the shareholder group? I had originally - haven't done it again as yet.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 3403-
You're naive if you think that playing the pennies is anything more than a speculator's game. If you find a company you actually believe in, play the run, exit into free shares as quickly as possible, and see what happens. Only fools play pennies as buy-and-hold stocks.
I applaud you Sir!!! You are very correct and this is for ALL pennystocks, which are $5 and below. VERY WELL PUT!
Pinks yes, but not all BB's.... some BB's are REAL companies that end up with amazing growth stories.
Posted by 3403 on :
LOL. I have learned a lot from my first penny experience. Lost Anita, and thousands of dollars. May never get the money back. LOL Kind of like buying forclousres and stealing equity from couples who for some reason got over their head. Never did that, and will never do this agian. But, want to thank all of you for a valuable lesson and experience. Never thought so before, but maybe capitalism needs some restraints. In my business profit is made almost always by everyone, not by taking advantage of the unexpected. We can sleep at nights.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Don't know anything related to this stock for sure...and yes, I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Is this another quote I can "count on"?...
Posted by 6digits on :
What's the new name? SOS CSHD The Secret Order of Shareholders of CSHD. Posted by jmoe20 on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Keep dreaming in the lies! You'll never see CSHD in any articles. The only article you'll see is in the Georgia Paper with Rufus Harris be taken in for fraud.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Keep dreaming in the lies! You'll never see CSHD in any articles. The only article you'll see is in the Georgia Paper with Rufus Harris be taken in for fraud.
WOW ANOTHER POSTER WHO REGISTERED IN MID OCTOBER, I MISSED YOU. Posted by Mantux on :
Thanks all for the education. I'm learning slowly how to play this penny stock game. Will play the runs from here on out. Sucker once and never a fool twice.
Posted by Chart walker on :
ECFL looking good with news out.
New2's find.
eCarfly, Inc. Begins Preliminary Merger Negotiations with a High Yielding Corporation
Wednesday, November 22, 2006 08:31ET
DALLAS, Nov 22, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE)
Posted by jmoe20 on :
And your in July and you still don't have a member rating... Looks like a lot of people like you! Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: And your in July and you still don't have a member rating... Looks like a lot of people like you!
He doesn't have member ratings turned on
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya we don't need no stinking ratings.
I can't please everybody all the time anyway.
Posted by 66inxs on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Ya we don't need no stinking ratings.
I can't please everybody all the time anyway.
bob ought to replace the ratings and let us post an avatar.
Posted by 6digits on :
I found out last night that Andrew Jacksons reelection campaign was the origination of the jackass symbol for the democrats, because thats what the other party called him then. There was no republican party as yet. The other party was the wigs.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Ya we don't need no stinking ratings.
I can't please everybody all the time anyway.
bob ought to replace the ratings and let us post an avatar.
He should show us who rated us what, and allow to change ratings...
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I sleep well, sir. One reason I don't trade in the true pennies anymore is because of the lack of predictability in their short-term performance. However, I have no qualms about speculating on a play that seems like it has good potential short-term upside. That's how the game works. There's little difference between speculating in the pennies, and playing poker. In the words of the "great" Kenny Rogers:
You have to know when to hold 'em/ Know when to fold 'em/ Know when to walk away/ And know when to run/ You never count your money/ When you're sitting at the table/ There'll be time enough for countin'/ When the dealing's done.
I abide by some simple rules when trading the exchange-traded pennies:
(1) Only buy stocks you have a certain degree of certainty are preparing for a short-term run. I'm wrong once in awhile, but I'm right more often than not. I have several indicators I use to achieve this level of certainty.
(2) Get out before the top. Sell why the run is happening. Trying to gauge the top of a run will cost you more money than it will make you.
(3) Set a certain price-point (mine is between 3% and 7%, depending upon the stock), where you will cut your losses. In the long run, a good trader will make almost as much money from limiting his losses as he does from the stocks he's right on. I've seen far too many traders give back all or most of their gains by becoming emotionally attached to a stock, and trying to ride it back up to break-even. That almost never works, and even when it does, the capital involved could have probably been used far more effectively in other, faster-moving stocks.
(4) Never buy and hold ANY OTCBB, Pink, or Grey stock. While you'll occasionally run across a company that has real potential on these off-the-beaten-path locations, 99% of the stocks are either weak companies, or out and out scams. Is there money to be made "trading paper" as it were on these stocks? Sure. Is there any legitiamte reason to approach these stocks as buy-and-hold opportunities? No.
quote:Originally posted by 3403: LOL. I have learned a lot from my first penny experience. Lost Anita, and thousands of dollars. May never get the money back. LOL Kind of like buying forclousres and stealing equity from couples who for some reason got over their head. Never did that, and will never do this agian. But, want to thank all of you for a valuable lesson and experience. Never thought so before, but maybe capitalism needs some restraints. In my business profit is made almost always by everyone, not by taking advantage of the unexpected. We can sleep at nights.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ECFL looking good with news out.
New2's find.
eCarfly, Inc. Begins Preliminary Merger Negotiations with a High Yielding Corporation
Wednesday, November 22, 2006 08:31ET
DALLAS, Nov 22, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE)
They are up 80% today.
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Good morning fhalyesss...he seems to be one of those guys who is bipolar...one day positive, the next he's negative.
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss:
quote:Originally posted by jmoe20:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: You will soon...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Whatever cases they may be I do NOT see the name CSHD in the articles.
Keep dreaming in the lies! You'll never see CSHD in any articles. The only article you'll see is in the Georgia Paper with Rufus Harris be taken in for fraud.
WOW ANOTHER POSTER WHO REGISTERED IN MID OCTOBER, I MISSED YOU.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
THESE are the real rules of winners!
1. Buy low, sell high (or for you unsavory characters, sell short high, buy low!) 2. Hogs get fat, pigs get slaughtered. (In other words, don't get greedy!) 3. Buy on the rumor, sell on the news (usually true for stocks the runup into news vs. stocks that run AFTER news). 4. It takes money to make money. (In other words, don't expect to turn $100 into $50K) 5. You win some, you lose some, but you keep on fighting! (In other words, never lose your capital or it's game over) 6. Never fall in love with a stock. 7. The only sure bets in this life are death and taxes. 8. If an analyst rates a stock a "buy", you can be sure he has already bought the stock and is looking to unload at a price just below his target stock. Vice versa on "sell" recommendations. 9. Like surfing, ride the MM's and follow them, and you will sail to victory. Attempt to go against them, and you will wipeout. Remember, MM's do NOT play by the same rules on investors and do NOT lose money ever on Market Making activity. Therefore, you cannot beat them. 10. You don't have to be in the game 100% of the time. The sidelines are nice for a break every once in a while. Remember, its better to NOT make money than to LOSE money. 11. There are no such things as PAID bashers. That dumb article floating around "Confessions of a basher" is BS. People bash because they are short, bored, a-holes, or looking for a better reentry price. 12. As a follow up on 12, even if there were paid bashers, 99% of the time, Bulletin Board postings do NOT influence price fluctutations. There are many more investors who invest without ever reading internet message boards. 13. Always keep dry powder on hand. Never know when an opportunity may arise. 14. Most mutual funds and institutions will not buy stocks unless they are NASDAQ or listed and over $5.. However, this does not apply to hedge funds. 15. Don't go "all-in". This is not the World Series of Poker. Don't invest all of your capital in one stock. If you have a favorite, put 1/3 in. Keep the other 2/3 just in case you need to average down. 16. There's no such thing as "fat finger" trades. When these trades do occur, they are not valid and are broken by the brokerage houses within 3 days. Nobody can filled outside of the inside market (best bid x ask) 17. If you want a sure way of exiting a stock without hitting the bid, split the inside market with decimals. This will prevent your order from being represented on Level II, and the MM's won't step in front of your order (which they do often to get you to keep lowering your sell price). For example, if the best bid x ask is .11 x .12, try putting in .111 or somthing like that. 18. If you plan to play with fire (ie., play the pinks), make sure you have access to your trading platform at all times! Do not buy a stock without having access to exit in short notic
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by 3403: LOL. I have learned a lot from my first penny experience. Lost Anita, and thousands of dollars. May never get the money back. LOL Kind of like buying forclousres and stealing equity from couples who for some reason got over their head. Never did that, and will never do this agian. But, want to thank all of you for a valuable lesson and experience. Never thought so before, but maybe capitalism needs some restraints. In my business profit is made almost always by everyone, not by taking advantage of the unexpected. We can sleep at nights.
Thats funny- you say you lost Anita and thousands of dollars.....and then follow only with "may never get the money back"
Guess shes not on the do-over list Posted by St. Matthew on :
I do wish we could change them from time to time...I have made a mistake a couple of times.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Ya we don't need no stinking ratings.
I can't please everybody all the time anyway.
bob ought to replace the ratings and let us post an avatar.
He should show us who rated us what, and allow to change ratings...
Posted by 66inxs on :
kevin i equate the runs to fireworks - get out before the bang! good strategy. minimize risk by holding for the shortest period possible - not overnight or over the weekends if possible. have an exit point picked and exit. and don't get greedy.
repo - good point except people should have to say why they rated you also. who and why should be part of the ratings if we have them.
Posted by 6digits on :
President Harris killed himself during his inauguration speech by dressing lightly on a cold march day and giving the longest inaugural speech in history, of 2 hours. He caught a cold and lead to pneumonia, he died shortly after. He wanted to prove to the public that he was a physically fit president at the age of 67.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Thanks Rep & Kev, Will someone call Anita and tell her also?
Seriously thank you.
Posted by 3403 on :
May stay in the pennies just to hang with you guys.
Posted by SherriT on :
As my parents always say, "a bought lesson is the best one"....I have learned plenty investing in the pennies over the last few months.
Posted by 3403 on :
Do the CEO's of these little scams (compared to Enron etc.) ever get theirs, or do they all walk away rich?
Posted by SherriT on :
Before everyone starts scattering to the wind, I just wanted to wish y'all a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Same to you SherriT!
Posted by luvforever on :
New2 I saw that last night tried to get in but scottrade said cr1 couldn't buy online so I skipped and didn't call it over the phone now I wish I would have LOL
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Back to the Carbon Credits again...Contract in energy tradin guntil 2016?
Nymex to Launch 24-7 Electronic Trading Tuesday November 21, 6:08 pm ET Nymex to Launch Side-By-Side Electronic Trading of Asian, London Metals
NEW YORK (AP) -- The newly public New York Mercantile Exchange said Tuesday it plans to open up more of its products to side-by-side electronic trading starting in December. The commodities exchange -- which debuted as Nymex Holdings Inc. in an initial public offering on Friday -- said it plans to offer Comex miNYs, Asian metals and London metals futures contracts through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange's Globex electronic trading platform beginning Dec. 3. Electronic trading will run 24 hours a day.
Nymex energy contracts have been trading around the clock through the Globex electronic trading platform since September.
Financial marketplaces have been moving to take more of their trading electronic, including the New York Stock Exchange.
Nymex -- famous for its open outcry trading floor where energy and metals futures change hands -- struck a deal in April in which the Chicago Merc became the exclusive electronic trader of energy futures and options. The contract that runs through 2016.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: New2 I saw that last night tried to get in but scottrade said cr1 couldn't buy online so I skipped and didn't call it over the phone now I wish I would have LOL
Me too. I'd love to be flipping right now! .15-.20-.15-.20.
Posted by wv1973 on :
CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 12:36:00 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.17 -0.03 -15.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 494,149 * Calculations (Change and % Change) based on previous day's close
Historical Data
Alert me when Price ($) Daily Change (%) Daily Change ($) hits Manage Alerts
Historical Data Primary Exchange: Pink Sheets Cusip: 21254V100 Today's High: 0.20 52-Week High: 4.00 (9/28/2006) Today's Low: 0.15 52-Week Low: 0.00 (11/13/2006) EPS (Last 12 months): 0.00 Indicated Annual Dividend: 0.00 Trailing PE: 0.00 Split Rate: 0.2 Forward PE: 0.00 Split Date: 8/26/2004 Market Cap: 0.011 Bil Shares Outstanding: 0.067 Bil Volatility Average (20 day): 5.8812 Average Volume (22 day): 508,832 Financial Status Indicator: N/A
Posted by luvforever on :
stockstar talking about ECFL ~LOL
Posted by a surfer on :
well RVBD is going just fine today too.
This will be better than FRPT.....lol REPO
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: well RVBD is going just fine today too.
This will be better than FRPT.....lol REPO
Wanna bet?
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: well RVBD is going just fine today too.
This will be better than FRPT.....lol REPO
Wanna bet?
No need to.
Made enough on my pick... LOL
48 by new years...
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: well RVBD is going just fine today too.
This will be better than FRPT.....lol REPO
Wanna bet?
No need to.
Made enough on my pick... LOL
48 by new years...
But you said "will" be better, not "was" better...
Sounds like a bet.
FRPT - $11.05 RVBD - $32.25
Let's see which stock has the higher % gain by the close of 1/2/07, mmkay?
You're predicting a 50% move... I'll predict a 20% move and win. MARK THIS POST.
Posted by TexasMoney on :
Happy Thanksgiving!
Hey, Repo –
I am saving the turkey neck for you like you requested – be gentle !
Any chance your old cellmate’s name is Frazier? I’m still trying to understand your signature: "Down goes Frazier!" Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Happy Thanksgiving!
Hey, Repo –
I am saving the turkey neck for you like you requested – be gentle !
Any chance your old cellmate’s name is Frazier? I’m still trying to understand your signature: "Down goes Frazier!"
Isn't that a Howard Cosell thing?
Posted by a surfer on :
i marked it repo. higher % wins....
Posted by 6digits on :
Be there Aloha
Posted by Chart walker on :
"Down goes Frazier!"
-Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Frazier will fall in round 3...
"""ALI"""
He put boxing on the map IMO ~
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "Down goes Frazier!"
-Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Frazier will fall in round 3...
"""ALI"""
He put boxing on the map IMO ~
yeah Smokin Joe Frazier
Posted by Chart walker on :
ECFL up 170%... [edit] 180%!
Nice job New2 ~
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ECFL up 170%...
Nice job New2 ~
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ECFL up 170%... [edit] 180%!
Nice job New2 ~
ok I lied..
200%....
-you still suck! lmao ~
edit... dang! 210!!
Posted by SherriT on :
Very nice return, New2! I hope I'll see one like that again soon...congrats!
Posted by SherriT on :
Try 230 Chart Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Try 230 Chart
thanks for rubbing it in! lol ~~
Time for a break... --wait till EOD! Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Very nice return, New2! I hope I'll see one like that again soon...congrats!
Gotta make up the loss from CSHD somehow!
Posted by frank021474 on :
very nice new2- I will be sure to jump on the train next time instead of watching Posted by frank021474 on :
Why is everyone wishing Tut happy thanksgiving? If hes canadian its on a different day and if hes a old egyptian mummy he doesn't celebrate it at all
Man I am bored- its cold and rainy. Nothing on the tv!
Wheres Jenna been hiding all day?
Posted by Chart walker on :
I see SFNN triggered today too... Missed it, 217% ~
Might run again...
Wow the Holiday effect has my board in the red!
Only 3 pics green, FRPT is one of them Posted by SherriT on :
Chart, I think New2 wins today...it's like the energizer bunny - and I thought it was done at 80% Posted by Chart walker on :
"Savor the Flavor" New2! Posted by Rhyz on :
Yeah Chart I also missed SFNN, nice friggin run today!! Then again I was looking at Zvue and didnt jump on that this morning either. LOL
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "Savor the Flavor" New2!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "Savor the Flavor" New2!
Now that they have announced no reverse split, it should REALLY have a nice EOD - you can take Chart out to dinner! LOL
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "Savor the Flavor" New2!
Now that they have announced no reverse split, it should REALLY have a nice EOD - you can take Chart out to dinner! LOL
That's funny you say that, Chart was supposed to take me out to dinner when CSHD hit big....we may be waiting a while for that, huh? Posted by Chart walker on :
Story of my life lately...
-Hurry up and wait! Posted by Chart walker on :
UPDA is coming around too ~ Finally!....
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: I see SFNN triggered today too... Missed it, 217% ~
Might run again...
Wow the Holiday effect has my board in the red!
Only 3 pics green, FRPT is one of them
if you look on the SFNN thread pg 3, you will see that I called todays run yesterday after I called the company!!! I let everyone know that the company would release big news concerning the 10Q. I made out very nice off that play today!
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: I see SFNN triggered today too... Missed it, 217% ~
Might run again...
Wow the Holiday effect has my board in the red!
Only 3 pics green, FRPT is one of them
if you look on the SFNN thread pg 3, you will see that I called todays run yesterday after I called the company!!! I let everyone know that the company would release big news concerning the 10Q. I made out very nice off that play today!
Smooth move ~~~~~ -go the extra mile and you'll have a bigger smile!
Good man!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
thanks chart, sorry to post off the topic of CSHD. Back to business!!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Sometimes OT is nice, especially on (yawn) days like today... Posted by wv1973 on :
CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 3:50:34 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.15 -0.05 -25.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 759,103
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 3:50:34 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.15 -0.05 -25.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 759,103
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 3:50:34 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.15 -0.05 -25.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 759,103
Bah- we aren't holding this for a short term play. I don't even watch it on the L2's unless I put an order in to swoop up some shares at cheapie prices. The only people that post the closing price daily IMO are the ones that are still upset at the $ lost so far.
I haven't lost a dime on this- since its not till you sell its a loss.
I just checked my orders today and non filled Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Amen Frank! I keep waiting for those market makers to show up so I can buy some at .15 to lower my cost basis. Unfortunately I haven't gotten any more shares but the price keep sgoing downnnnn! Hmmm, I feel a PR coming. Anybody with me?
Posted by frank021474 on :
You can't buy right now? I can buy with Etrade- I bought some the other day.
Posted by MTPromises on :
Frank, Where do you have your buys set at? Just curious.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: You can't buy right now? I can buy with Etrade- I bought some the other day.
Since there are no market makers I keep getting the message there is no last bid or ask price so the trade can't be placed. If I call it in and have a broker place the trade it will cost me between 30-40 dollars each way. I know I'm cheap but that kind of makes the flip useless since I'm a little guy. If I where flipping 10,000 shares it may be worth it to me but not for a few thousand at a time.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: Frank, Where do you have your buys set at? Just curious.
I tried a few buys at 10-12-13
Of course some a few buys in for 25-30k shares at like .02 (who knows a fluke might happen right?)
Would be nice for this to drop to around .05!
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: You can't buy right now? I can buy with Etrade- I bought some the other day.
Since there are no market makers I keep getting the message there is no last bid or ask price so the trade can't be placed. If I call it in and have a broker place the trade it will cost me between 30-40 dollars each way. I know I'm cheap but that kind of makes the flip useless since I'm a little guy. If I where flipping 10,000 shares it may be worth it to me but not for a few thousand at a time.
Yes I have a scottrade account and they really stick it to you on penny stocks.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Amen Frank! I keep waiting for those market makers to show up so I can buy some at .15 to lower my cost basis. Unfortunately I haven't gotten any more shares but the price keep sgoing downnnnn! Hmmm, I feel a PR coming. Anybody with me?
I bought 4000 more through etrade.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 3:50:34 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.15 -0.05 -25.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 759,103
Bah- we aren't holding this for a short term play. I don't even watch it on the L2's unless I put an order in to swoop up some shares at cheapie prices. The only people that post the closing price daily IMO are the ones that are still upset at the $ lost so far.
I haven't lost a dime on this- since its not till you sell its a loss.
I just checked my orders today and non filled
L2s?
what service feed you got that quotes L2s on greys?
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by wv1973: CSHD: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP - 11/22/2006 3:50:34 PM ET Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask BxA Size Open Volume 0.15 -0.05 -25.00% 0.00 [] 0.00 500 x 500 0.15 759,103
Bah- we aren't holding this for a short term play. I don't even watch it on the L2's unless I put an order in to swoop up some shares at cheapie prices. The only people that post the closing price daily IMO are the ones that are still upset at the $ lost so far.
I haven't lost a dime on this- since its not till you sell its a loss.
I just checked my orders today and non filled
L2s?
what service feed you got that quotes L2s on greys?
I should have caveated that- I meant watching the time sells/buys scrolling. Its on my l2 screen off to the right- Posted by T e x on :
ahhh...
thanks for the reply...that explains it.
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
Everybody have a wonderful Thanksgiving! Don't think about cshd, but think about all the things in your life you are, or should be, thankful for!
Posted by TimW on :
Thankful for CSHD!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Why is everyone wishing Tut happy thanksgiving? If hes canadian its on a different day and if hes a old egyptian mummy he doesn't celebrate it at all
Man I am bored- its cold and rainy. Nothing on the tv!
Wheres Jenna been hiding all day?
HI!!!!!! I've been working!!!! I usually only work the weekends but so many people are on vacation they asked me to help out.... I miss you guys!!!!
Posted by Gullible on :
Jenna Happy Thanksgiving
Posted by Jenna on :
Happy ThanksGiving Gullible!!!
Happy Thanks Giving Everyone!!!!
Posted by Gullible on :
May The Stock God Smile On Us All!
Posted by Chart walker on :
Right back at you Jenna...
-and Board!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: May The Stock God Smile On Us All!
That's about all we have left to pin our dreams on- The Stock God.........
Rufus is ssslllloooowwww........
Posted by Chart walker on :
Well rumor has it that Santa and his helpers are busy... lol ~
Goodnight all ~
Posted by Gullible on :
As the lights are fadeing tonight, I wish all of you who post here the best of everything for the future. No matter what happens with cshd I will forever be grateful for all the new acquintances I have made here. And the knowledge I have acquired.
Posted by Jenna on :
Gullible- are you near Orlando?
Posted by Gullible on :
Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has lest the house.
Posted by Gullible on :
About 2 hours.
Posted by Jenna on :
I am Thankful for my family..... especially my children...I am also thankful that I have all of my fellow CSHD'ers to ride this rollercoaster with...I can't imagine not having you guys....
What are you all thankful for?......
Posted by Gullible on :
Jenna there is nothing more important than family and friends.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I am Thankful for my family..... especially my children...I am also thankful that I have all of my fellow CSHD'ers to ride this rollercoaster with...I can't imagine not having you guys....
What are you all thankful for?......
in context? I'm thankful for the repeated messages to protect capital...
For those who *actually* have a bundle tied up--(yes, I realize some *do* exxagerate their positions)--I trust they have other, more important aspects to their lives...grandchildren, a parent who survived a dangerous surgery, a blood-pressure report that came back encouraging...something: seems to me, at the darkest times...there's still blessings to count...and we're better off for doing so.
Happy Holiday, you guys...
Posted by Jenna on :
You too, TEX....
Posted by portman on :
Amen...on both accounts below...
May peace be with all of you this Thanksgiving and forward. May the coming Holiday Season bring you each joy and happiness.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I am Thankful for my family..... especially my children...I am also thankful that I have all of my fellow CSHD'ers to ride this rollercoaster with...I can't imagine not having you guys....
What are you all thankful for?......
in context? I'm thankful for the repeated messages to protect capital...
For those who *actually* have a bundle tied up--(yes, I realize some *do* exxagerate their positions)--I trust they have other, more important aspects to their lives...grandchildren, a parent who survived a dangerous surgery, a blood-pressure report that came back encouraging...something: seems to me, at the darkest times...there's still blessings to count...and we're better off for doing so.
Happy Holiday, you guys...
Posted by thedoctor on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I am Thankful for my family..... especially my children...I am also thankful that I have all of my fellow CSHD'ers to ride this rollercoaster with...I can't imagine not having you guys....
What are you all thankful for?......
Hey ... She must be including me. On the serious side Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. You have all made this journey a lot easier to take. Thanks to you all.
Posted by highhopes on :
Happy thanksgiving to everyone. I have only been on board for a relatively short part of this roller coaster ride. Unfortunately it has been the exciting but somewhat scary big drop off! But I look forward to the run back up and the nice part when it cruises in to the finish.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I haven't been posting much lately. I just wanted to drop in and say happy thanksgiving to everyone. I hope everyone is well and has a happy holiday.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Have a great day and be safe
Posted by Gullible on :
Good morning to all, Have A Very Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by a surfer on :
Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!
I love you man!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Gullible on :
Good morning to all, Have A Very Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by 6digits on :
Turkeys too? Happy Thanksgiving!
quote:Originally posted by Gullible: Good morning to all, Have A Very Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by 3403 on :
It is Thanksgiving once again To all of you best wishes I send
This time of year with family and friends Sharing love and thanks the tradition transcends
You're all dear to me I want you to know I only hope That I can show
Through happiness and tears We share our lives Though distant prevails we share with ties
Eat hearty my friends Love those your with Laugh and have joy Give hugs and a kiss
No one really knows How many more we have So cherish today Be fulfilled and glad
These are trying times In the world we share A difference we make With tho's whom we care
God's creations are dear Let's savor and delight He wants us to be happy Don't ever loose sight
Hope to see you all soon But until that time Remember thoughts of you Are always on my mind
Best Wishes, 3403
Posted by luvforever on :
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Enjoy the day and family and friends! I see the Macys' parade even had the tutenmiester there! Take it as a good sign! ~LOL
Posted by 66inxs on :
Happy Thanksgiving all!! Enjoy your Holiday!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Happy thanksgiving to everyone! Its time to break out the stretch waist band sweats and put down some TURKEY!
Have a good holiday to all!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
One more time for best wishes being spread!.......To all the good folks and longs on the CSHD thread, may y'all have a tremendous turkey day and enjoy the good eats and fellowship of your families and friends during this holiday weekend!
Posted by Spooky on :
This was a letter I received yesterday from a co-worker of mine. He is in the National Guard and deploys regularly to help keep this country safe. I thought the letter was great and wanted to share it with you guys. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
-Spooky
----------------
As everyone leaves for the Thanksgiving holiday, I wanted to share a few thoughts with you. We are an extremely fortunate people in history. Perhaps we need to adjust our perspective on a regular basis. Here are some things I’ve thought of with my own griping.
I complain about my commute but I’m very thankful to have a job that I enjoy.
I complain about the yard work I have to do on weekends but I’m very thankful that I have a home that has a yard that needs work.
I complain about waiting in line to vote but I’m thankful that I get to vote.
I complain that “my guy” or “my party” didn’t do well in the election but I’m thankful that the system works, without a violent overthrow of the government.
I complain about the cost of gasoline but I’m thankful I own several cars that run (in spite of the one that broke down with Gigi and Holly last week).
I complain about the dastardly drive to get to the mountains on weekends for skiing but I’m thankful I have a job that pays for my gas and ski equipment and lift tickets and that I live in a state where a two to three hour drive is all that separates me from some of the best skiing in the world. I’m thankful that I’ve been able to ski some of those other resorts across the pond.
I complain that my knees hurt after a day of skiing but I’m thankful that I have two legs and two arms rather than one or more prosthetics as a result of a roadside bomb.
I complain about the cost of my utilities but I’m thankful I have light, heat and air-conditioning.
The list could go on and on but I think you get the idea.
I have been fortunate to have been able to visit a number of foreign countries. Some of these trips have been vacations and some have been as a guest of Uncle Sam. If you have never been to a third world country, you may not realize just how good we have it here. If you have any doubts, ask to see some of my pictures. Even the poorest among us live better than the average, or even well-to-do, citizen in many of these countries.
On this Thanksgiving, give thanks to your family and friends for their support. Thank your boss for his or her support, mentoring and patience. Thank your employees for the great job they do. Give thanks for your health, even if you have some problems. You are still here. You get up in the morning and come to work albeit with some aches and pains.
I want to thank all of you for your hard work, for your support during my deployments, and for your friendship.
Have a very happy Thanksgiving!!
Posted by wwilliammc on :
Happy Thanksgiving To Everyone
Posted by Chart walker on :
"Happy Thanksgiving Board" Posted by milliam on :
Hope everyone had a safe and happy Thanksgiving. For once, I didn't eat too much...but I guess the day isn't over yet. I'm off to hit the desert again .
Posted by GreenDay on :
Hey kids, I'm in Orlando - Disney- with the family. The hotel has free internet, just one more thing to add to the list to be Thankful for.
Happy Thanksgiving- I love you all. Good night!
Posted by Jenna on :
Hi guys - when everyone is back from enjoying turkey day (& I hope it was wonderful for all of you!) & wants to get back to business - Can someone explain this statement by Rufus to me?
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements? If,he doesn't plan on puting ficticious things in there what does he need to worry about?
I believe he has what he says he has, I really do, but this doesn't sound right & I think he's up to something & we don't have a clue what it is.....Perhaps not worried about the filing & then in turn no longer meeting the requirements for Nasdaq doesn't worry him due to a merger? I don't know but I don't understand why the SEC would seize it simply for filing, doesn't make sense....
So anyway, what do any of you think about this statement.....?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hi guys - when everyone is back from enjoying turkey day (& I hope it was wonderful for all of you!) & wants to get back to business - Can someone explain this statement by Rufus to me?
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements? If,he doesn't plan on puting ficticious things in there what does he need to worry about?
I believe he has what he says he has, I really do, but this doesn't sound right & I think he's up to something & we don't have a clue what it is.....Perhaps not worried about the filing & then in turn no longer meeting the requirements for Nasdaq doesn't worry him due to a merger? I don't know but I don't understand why the SEC would seize it simply for filing, doesn't make sense....
So anyway, what do any of you think about this statement.....?
I think that it is all BS stringing us along. Bottom line.
Posted by 6digits on :
Jenna, my guess is that if a 10Q is filed it would mention the Venezuela Caracas group 500 million bond that the SEC is at odds with and till they are satisfied with the ownership they will consider it more fraud for it to be mentioned. Thats my take on it. A second and third opinion is welcome too.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
exactly 6...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I hope everyone had a wonderful day with your families and friends. I hope you all were blessed with good food, good company, and good football (I know I was). When we went around the table at dinner time today, I took a large sip of my Sauvignon Blanc, and then I thanked my immediate family and my extended family (Allstocks) for being so supportive during the last few months. It has been a very tough year as we welcomed our beautiful new daughter into the world (she still aint sleeping through the night), we have moved, and we learned of a man named Rufus Paul Harris…a man that we will most likely never forget.
When I look back on things, I can’t for the life of me figure out just how we got here…where we are with this company and this battle between good and evil. It has been one hell of a ride and it’s not over yet.
I want to thank all of you for the part each and every one of you play in making this the best investment board out there. We all contribute in our own unique and crazy, yet valuable ways. We will get through this together. I truly believe that we will win this battle of good versus evil...it just may take some time. In the meantime, we have to remember to work together, respect each other, laugh and cry together, and most importantly, support each other by continuing to provide incredible DD and new information for each other. Each of us needs to continue to do our part to help us win this war. There is still work to be done.
In the meantime, please take this opportunity to enjoy your families, friends (and football) this holiday weekend. Let’s try to stay away from the boards so we can re-energize and hit it fresh first thing Monday morning. It may be time for a renewed assault on our elected officials so they know that we have not forgotten about the corruption that is being perpetrated upon our company and our families.
Take care everyone and I’ll see you on the other side.
Matthew
Posted by St. Matthew on :
This is a very good question Jenna. I have been wrestling with this one for a couple of days. I have PM'd Tut and e-mailed Rufus himself about this. I have not heard back from either. Most likely, they can’t discuss this.
My guess is that the 10-Q contains the additional 4 billion in bonds and the 4 billion credit line. It would place the value of the company at close to 15 billion dollars. This would bring lots of attention to the company. The SEC does NOT want attention on THIS company.
What you have to remember here is that the SEC does not want to be exposed...not only for what they are currently doing (to CSHD), but for what they have been doing in the past. That is, allowing the Naked Shorts to conduct business for years under their watchful eye.
In my opinion, we are in this boat because of this and this alone. If not for this, we would be on NASDAQ and we would all be rich by now.
If this corruption is exposed, the SEC will have to be completely reorganized...if not shut down completely. The American public will most likely loose faith in the government who funds them. Enron gave the investment world a huge black eye...This has the potential to do far worse. If the truth about this gets out, the American public would loose faith in the idea of investing in stocks altogether. Billions (if not trillions) of dollars would shift (almost overnight) to interest bearing products.
The good Doctor can attest to what this would do to our economy. Why do you think the last recession was so bad? Besides the natural economic factors that caused the recession, we were forced to deal with 9/11 and then the Enron scandal. We are just now…6 years later, getting to the same levels of investment dollars in the stock market that we saw in 2000. The entire economy of this country is based on two basic things…corporate investment and disposable income on the part of the American public. If people are not investing in our companies and spending money on goods and services, our economy goes nowhere…fast!
If this is exposed (incorrectly) we will see ripple effects throughout our economy. That’s why I believe this may take awhile. Very powerful people will have to decide the best way to resolve this so that it is a win / win for everyone involved.
Another thing to consider is that the SEC does not want to be responsible for the downfall of Ameritrade. You can only imagine what would happen on the cable news channels if this happens. The cat…and all of their poop would be out of the bag.
As I said before…this aint over yet. As Rufus said…“That’s when the fun begins”.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hi guys - when everyone is back from enjoying turkey day (& I hope it was wonderful for all of you!) & wants to get back to business - Can someone explain this statement by Rufus to me?
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements? If,he doesn't plan on puting ficticious things in there what does he need to worry about?
I believe he has what he says he has, I really do, but this doesn't sound right & I think he's up to something & we don't have a clue what it is.....Perhaps not worried about the filing & then in turn no longer meeting the requirements for Nasdaq doesn't worry him due to a merger? I don't know but I don't understand why the SEC would seize it simply for filing, doesn't make sense....
So anyway, what do any of you think about this statement.....?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: This is a very good question Jenna. I have been wrestling with this one for a couple of days. I have PM'd Tut and e-mailed Rufus himself about this. I have not heard back from either. Most likely, they can’t discuss this.
My guess is that the 10-Q contains the additional 4 billion in bonds and the 4 billion credit line. It would place the value of the company at close to 15 billion dollars. This would bring lots of attention to the company. The SEC does NOT want attention on THIS company.
What you have to remember here is that the SEC does not want to be exposed...not only for what they are currently doing (to CSHD), but for what they have been doing in the past. That is, allowing the Naked Shorts to conduct business for years under their watchful eye.
In my opinion, we are in this boat because of this and this alone. If not for this, we would be on NASDAQ and we would all be rich by now.
If this corruption is exposed, the SEC will have to be completely reorganized...if not shut down completely. The American public will most likely loose faith in the government who funds them. Enron gave the investment world a huge black eye...This has the potential to do far worse. If the truth about this gets out, the American public would loose faith in the idea of investing in stocks altogether. Billions (if not trillions) of dollars would shift (almost overnight) to interest bearing products.
The good Doctor can attest to what this would do to our economy. Why do you think the last recession was so bad? Besides the natural economic factors that caused the recession, we were forced to deal with 9/11 and then the Enron scandal. We are just now…6 years later, getting to the same levels of investment dollars in the stock market that we saw in 2000. The entire economy of this country is based on two basic things…corporate investment and disposable income on the part of the American public. If people are not investing in our companies and spending money on goods and services, our economy goes nowhere…fast!
If this is exposed (incorrectly) we will see ripple effects throughout our economy. That’s why I believe this may take awhile. Very powerful people will have to decide the best way to resolve this so that it is a win / win for everyone involved.
Another thing to consider is that the SEC does not want to be responsible for the downfall of Ameritrade. You can only imagine what would happen on the cable news channels if this happens. The cat…and all of their poop would be out of the bag.
As I said before…this aint over yet. As Rufus said…“That’s when the fun begins”.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hi guys - when everyone is back from enjoying turkey day (& I hope it was wonderful for all of you!) & wants to get back to business - Can someone explain this statement by Rufus to me?
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements? If,he doesn't plan on puting ficticious things in there what does he need to worry about?
I believe he has what he says he has, I really do, but this doesn't sound right & I think he's up to something & we don't have a clue what it is.....Perhaps not worried about the filing & then in turn no longer meeting the requirements for Nasdaq doesn't worry him due to a merger? I don't know but I don't understand why the SEC would seize it simply for filing, doesn't make sense....
So anyway, what do any of you think about this statement.....?
Very well written post, but I have to laugh. Don't you think that Rufus wants you to believe all that you wrote?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: This is a very good question Jenna. I have been wrestling with this one for a couple of days. I have PM'd Tut and e-mailed Rufus himself about this. I have not heard back from either. Most likely, they can’t discuss this.
My guess is that the 10-Q contains the additional 4 billion in bonds and the 4 billion credit line. It would place the value of the company at close to 15 billion dollars. This would bring lots of attention to the company. The SEC does NOT want attention on THIS company.
What you have to remember here is that the SEC does not want to be exposed...not only for what they are currently doing (to CSHD), but for what they have been doing in the past. That is, allowing the Naked Shorts to conduct business for years under their watchful eye.
In my opinion, we are in this boat because of this and this alone. If not for this, we would be on NASDAQ and we would all be rich by now.
If this corruption is exposed, the SEC will have to be completely reorganized...if not shut down completely. The American public will most likely loose faith in the government who funds them. Enron gave the investment world a huge black eye...This has the potential to do far worse. If the truth about this gets out, the American public would loose faith in the idea of investing in stocks altogether. Billions (if not trillions) of dollars would shift (almost overnight) to interest bearing products.
The good Doctor can attest to what this would do to our economy. Why do you think the last recession was so bad? Besides the natural economic factors that caused the recession, we were forced to deal with 9/11 and then the Enron scandal. We are just now…6 years later, getting to the same levels of investment dollars in the stock market that we saw in 2000. The entire economy of this country is based on two basic things…corporate investment and disposable income on the part of the American public. If people are not investing in our companies and spending money on goods and services, our economy goes nowhere…fast!
If this is exposed (incorrectly) we will see ripple effects throughout our economy. That’s why I believe this may take awhile. Very powerful people will have to decide the best way to resolve this so that it is a win / win for everyone involved.
Another thing to consider is that the SEC does not want to be responsible for the downfall of Ameritrade. You can only imagine what would happen on the cable news channels if this happens. The cat…and all of their poop would be out of the bag.
As I said before…this aint over yet. As Rufus said…“That’s when the fun begins”.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hi guys - when everyone is back from enjoying turkey day (& I hope it was wonderful for all of you!) & wants to get back to business - Can someone explain this statement by Rufus to me?
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements? If,he doesn't plan on puting ficticious things in there what does he need to worry about?
I believe he has what he says he has, I really do, but this doesn't sound right & I think he's up to something & we don't have a clue what it is.....Perhaps not worried about the filing & then in turn no longer meeting the requirements for Nasdaq doesn't worry him due to a merger? I don't know but I don't understand why the SEC would seize it simply for filing, doesn't make sense....
So anyway, what do any of you think about this statement.....?
Jenna posts: "Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements?"
Jenna, SEC can't show up and "padlock" a company, like 'revenooers bustin' up a still... they can ask the courts to freeze assets, to satisfy disgorgment. Occassionally, they even seek emergency orders to freeze assets...
A recent legislative move has been to seek new legislation allowing the government to go after CEO assets (like, say, ENRON-type examples) along the lines of what they can do to drug-ring leaders--however, I don't know what progress has been made...
It could be that this "seize the company" idea is merely a rumor, or it could be that the CEO has no intention of filing and is floating this out as an excuse.
Seems like the first order of business would be to fight the default judgment. After all, if the filings show little or no assets, there's no point to a freeze. Yet, if the filings show all is well, why not use those considerable assets to fight the default judgment?
St. Matt posts: "The SEC does NOT want attention on THIS company."
Nonsensical: The swift, very public SEC suit is hardly the act of an agency wishing to keep its actions on the QT...
St. Matt adds: "If this corruption is exposed, the SEC will have to be completely reorganized...if not shut down completely. The American public will most likely loose faith in the government who funds them."
Hyperbole: Yes, the GAO has an inquiry underway, re SEC enforcement and compliance divisions--which may well lead to changes. A complete reorg is highly unlikely, and a shut down is unthinkable. As St. Matt goes on to allude, chaos and financial instability would result--ain't gonna happen.
However, despite the interest in trading circles, the chances of CSHD et al becoming a "household word" akin to ENRON et al is highly unlikely. Remember GLKC(E)? The one with the fella who supposedly had the certs for *all* free-trading shares stashed at home in a drawer? Even though the stock was still trading? Yup, he even appeared before a committee hearing on the Hill--yet, you'd be hard-pressed to find any non-trader who is familiar with the ticker...
At any rate, any asset "freeze" would be a due-process type thing, papers to be filed, hearings, etc... not some sort of "midnight raid on the company."
Posted by frank021474 on :
My opinion is they have to get through the current debaccle with proving the assets. Publishing another filing with the same assets in question would allow the SEC to mobilize on them once again.
This was discussed in depth on HSM, some legal folks post on there as well. Its burried a million pages deep so its not easy to find again.
I am putting some cheap buys in and going golfing I should be back around 2. Jenna- pleae have ALL the answers including RPH favorite color.
Hope everyone had a good holiday- I think I had 2 plates piled HIGH with grub yesterday. I was hurting last night. Had to rush home and lay flat.
Posted by portman on :
Tex, St. Matt, Jenna,
...think SOX.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good morning board ... hope all had a nice Thanksgiving day! Guess we know where all the girls will be today ... out getting all those bargains! Have a good one all! Rufus, roll baby, roll!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Yes - that was a great story and he seems like a good kid.
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Just curious - Has anybody heard of that kid "J-Mac"- he's the kid with autism that got put in the last few minutes of the last Basketball game of the year - his senior year & scored like 26 points in the last minute?
I was only bringing that up because that was my high school.....
sorry, I went way off topic there....Good Morning to you TM...
Disney contacted him there making a movie about him & Magic Johnson came to town he's going to direct it....
Ahh, no worry getting off topic on this thread. Everyone else does and stocks not going anywhere anytime soon.
Anyone seen Desperate Housewives? I have a buddy I used to play basketball with in high school and he is now "Austin", "Ede's" nephew on that show. Pretty cool, huh. LOL. And I kicked his butt one on one all the time.
Posted by highhopes on :
The Yahoo board says there are 23 million shares outstanding and a market cap around 3M (at .15). The CVSU site says there are 48 M shares and a market cap of 8.8M. Can anyone tell me where the difference in the number of shares outstanding comes from?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Thank you Sir as your posts are always held in high regards with valuable information. It is much appreciated~!
Quote: Tex
Jenna posts: "Why would they seize the company just for filing a 10q? Something doesn't add up for me......
Wouldn't they only seize the company if he filed a 10Q with ficticious statements?"
Jenna, SEC can't show up and "padlock" a company, like 'revenooers bustin' up a still... they can ask the courts to freeze assets, to satisfy disgorgment. Occassionally, they even seek emergency orders to freeze assets...
A recent legislative move has been to seek new legislation allowing the government to go after CEO assets (like, say, ENRON-type examples) along the lines of what they can do to drug-ring leaders--however, I don't know what progress has been made...
It could be that this "seize the company" idea is merely a rumor, or it could be that the CEO has no intention of filing and is floating this out as an excuse.
Seems like the first order of business would be to fight the default judgment. After all, if the filings show little or no assets, there's no point to a freeze. Yet, if the filings show all is well, why not use those considerable assets to fight the default judgment?
St. Matt posts: "The SEC does NOT want attention on THIS company."
Nonsensical: The swift, very public SEC suit is hardly the act of an agency wishing to keep its actions on the QT...
St. Matt adds: "If this corruption is exposed, the SEC will have to be completely reorganized...if not shut down completely. The American public will most likely loose faith in the government who funds them."
Hyperbole: Yes, the GAO has an inquiry underway, re SEC enforcement and compliance divisions--which may well lead to changes. A complete reorg is highly unlikely, and a shut down is unthinkable. As St. Matt goes on to allude, chaos and financial instability would result--ain't gonna happen.
However, despite the interest in trading circles, the chances of CSHD et al becoming a "household word" akin to ENRON et al is highly unlikely. Remember GLKC(E)? The one with the fella who supposedly had the certs for *all* free-trading shares stashed at home in a drawer? Even though the stock was still trading? Yup, he even appeared before a committee hearing on the Hill--yet, you'd be hard-pressed to find any non-trader who is familiar with the ticker...
At any rate, any asset "freeze" would be a due-process type thing, papers to be filed, hearings, etc... not some sort of "midnight raid on the company."
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
everyone who wants to know the resposibilities of shareholder committee go to cvsu.us and read the charters for the company and committee
Posted by Spooky on :
I'm trying to find out what date Rufus was talking on SPR to that soldier "andrew" from over in IRAQ, if anyone can pm me the date, I would appreciate it.
Posted by 6digits on :
At any rate, any asset "freeze" would be a due-process type thing, papers to be filed, hearings, etc... not some sort of "midnight raid on the company."
Either way it is'nt a process that we care to undergo. Thats the main issue is'nt it? I think so. I'd rather play it safe and get dug out of the present whole the KGB has created.
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
everyone who wants to know the resposibilities of shareholder committee go to cvsu.us and read the charters for the company and committee
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
everyone who wants to know the resposibilities of shareholder committee go to cvsu.us and read the charters for the company and committee
Posted by frank021474 on :
tanks if I want to know the responsibilities of the shareholder committee where should I go?
Just kidding~
Posted by tanks aka chevyrider on :
lol
Posted by 6digits on :
Who do you call?
Posted by GreenDay on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: I'm trying to find out what date Rufus was talking on SPR to that soldier "andrew" from over in IRAQ, if anyone can pm me the date, I would appreciate it.
It was a few days before 11/15 - that's the best I can do.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
GREAT POST TEX.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: GREAT POST TEX.
ahhh, well...shucks...I do what I can. Thank you.
btw? 6digits? the "KGB" didn't create this situation...
lol, I presume your KGB-intention applies to SEC, no?
At any rate, I seriously doubt that any reg agency was strong-arming or baiting somebody to come along with a "368-provision" play...
make sense?
Posted by 6digits on :
Ya, I know it's the SEC, but it's easy to compare the dominating presumptuous tactics used to suspend a company just because they think they're right. Dictator ship crap in my opinion.
No your not making a lot of sense. But i don't claim to be a SEC attorney.
So you're speculating that Rufus is stalling, making a bad play, i'm not sure. What is it?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Ya, I know it's the SEC, but it's easy to compare the dominating presumptuous tactics used to suspend a company just because they think they're right. Dictator ship crap in my opinion.
No your not making a lot of sense. But i don't claim to be a SEC attorney.
So you're speculating that Rufus is stalling, making a bad play, i'm not sure. What is it?
lol, I don't claim anything...much less status re SEC attorney...
Let's back up--you posted, in response to my italic, your bold:
"At any rate, any asset "freeze" would be a due-process type thing, papers to be filed, hearings, etc... not some sort of "midnight raid on the company."
Either way it is'nt a process that we care to undergo. Thats the main issue is'nt it? I think so. I'd rather play it safe and get dug out of the present whole the KGB has created.
Let's zero-in on the specifics...
if you're game.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I wouldn't say the SEC dug this whole- I think its clear that RPH dug it and started this entire thing (according to his own plan). Do I agree with the strategy? Not sure....I have to learn what the finish line is for him and this company. Some say he is going about this to get things out in the open in court. Others say he is flying by the seat of his pants.
Think about it- read all of the declarations. He ignored phone calls, promised faxes etc.. and never sent them. This was months ago, he was clearly blowing them off for specific reasons. At least in his own mind anyways.
Which way will this unfold? we shall see- I believe 12/4 is the next court date isn't it?
Why do I hold onto the shares? Because there is a reason why the judge did NOT honor the initial complaint from the SEC (only partial is in the order). This makes the risk vs reward a no-brainer.
Hope everyones having a good holiday weekend!
Posted by Murnak on :
Well frank gets it!lol I want to see if the float was bought up before August per one of the radio interviews, then someday the shorts will decide to cover.............that should be fun!!!!
Posted by Spooky on :
Frank, do you have a reference to that court date?
I haven't seen anything about it yet.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Spooky- I meant that they had a certain # of days to respond to the default judgement.
Will be interesting the see the turn of events in the upcoming weeks.
Let me know if you find anything else-
Posted by portman on :
Once again this board is the center of thoughtful discourse on this topic.
Posted by Lauralai on :
Was the shareholders committee website ever officially PR'd? I can't seem to find it if it was.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Lauralai: Was the shareholders committee website ever officially PR'd? I can't seem to find it if it was.
Good morning Lauralai! If you go onto the CVSU.US website you can click the nov 17th PR. It contains some PR info on the committee. Not sure what in particular you are in search of.
Fri, Nov 17, 2006
4:45 PM Conversion Solutions Announces Emergency Shareholders Meeting - PR Newswire
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by Lauralai: Was the shareholders committee website ever officially PR'd? I can't seem to find it if it was.
No, it has not been PR'd yet.
Posted by fuzzcloud on :
Yes it is on the Nov. 17 PR.
Posted by Spooky on :
Hey guys,
I'm trying to troubleshoot some issues that I am having with AIM. If someone here has an AIM account, and is willing to help me for a minute, could you send me a PM? I just want to send a few test messages back and forth.
Thanks.
[edit] Testing completed [/edit]
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm confused as to why CSHD is trading on the greys and how they can change it...according to some of thses sites...it seems they could change that and time is running out...
"How does the three strikes ineligibility rule work in practice? Pursuant to NASD Rule 6530(e), any OTCBB issuer that is delinquent in its reporting obligations three times in a 24-month period and/or is actually removed from the OTCBB for failure to file two times in a 24-month period is ineligible for quotation on the OTCBB for a period of one year. For a security to be eligible for quotation on the OTCBB, NASD Rule 6530 requires, in part, that the issuer of the security is required to file reports with the Commission or that the issuer of the security is a bank or savings associations (or holding company for such entities) that is not required to file reports with the Commission and, instead, makes filings with its applicable regulator. In addition to the foregoing, the issuer of the security must be current in its reporting obligations, subject to a 30 or 60 day grace period, as applicable. An OTCBB issuer will be deemed delinquent in its reporting obligations if the issuer fails to make a required filing when due or has filed an incomplete filing. In order for a filing to be complete, it must contain all required certifications and have been reviewed or audited as applicable, by an accountant registered with the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board."
WERE THERE A FEW THINGS THAT CSHD COULD HAVE DONE TO NOT GET DELISTED?
Initial Filing Deadline Delinquency Example: An OTCBB issuer that fails to file a periodic financial report on the day it is due by 5:30 p.m. EST receives a “strike,” even if the filing is made on the following day. If such a “strike” is the issuer’s third, the issuer will be removed form the OTCBB. A hearing request will stay the removal of the issuer’s securities from the OTCBB, pending the Hearing Panel’s decision, but only if it is accompanied by evidence / receipt of a wire transfer in the amount of $4,000. The stay of removal pending the Hearing Panel’s decision will not provide the issuer with additional time in which to cure ineligibility, if the issuer was, in fact, delinquent at the time that the filing was due. Grace Period Filing Deadline Delinquency Example: An OTCBB issuer that fails to file a periodic financial report on the day it is due and then subsequently fails to file the periodic financial report by 5:30 p.m. EST on the last day of the applicable grace period (in the case of a first or second “strike”) will be removed from the OTCBB. A hearing request will stay the removal of the issuer’s securities from the OTCBB, pending the Hearing Panel’s decision, but only if it is accompanied by evidence / receipt of a wire transfer in the amount of $4,000. The stay of removal pending the Hearing Panel’s decision will not provide the issuer with additional time in which to cure ineligibility, if the issuer was, in fact, delinquent at the end of the applicable grace period.
Posted by 66inxs on :
cshd is trading on the greys because it was suspended from trading by the sec. to get relisted after a suspension a mm has to be willing to file a 211 form in which the mm takes responsibility for the stock. so far, no mm has been willing to do so. the 10-Q that was not filed last week also has to be filed before relisting. hope this clears up some of your confusion.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by 10of13 on :
Scratch the above questions..I found what I was looking for...thanks....
I must have had/made too much turkey!
Posted by Doniboy on :
Happy Sunday people, hope the holiday was fun! Anything new with our little CSHD soap opera?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Ahh, I'll believe it when I see it.
Mom always said, "don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see." She's a very smart woman with millions, self-made .
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by fuzzcloud: Yes it is on the Nov. 17 PR.
You are correct, for some reason i didn't see that.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Hope everyone isn't too bloated this fine evening
-new lists out, check emails those whom wanted them.
Posted by Jenna on :
Chart, Your mailbox is full.....
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Chart, Your mailbox is full.....
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Chart, Your mailbox is full.....
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Hope everyone isn't too bloated this fine evening
-new lists out, check emails those whom wanted them.
What's the new lists?
Posted by ruiz5 on :
Does anyone knows if rufus pulled down on the bonds like he mentioned?
Posted by 6digits on :
Ruiz, thats what i'd like to know. It's really time he did something besides saying that he has them.
quote:Originally posted by ruiz5: Does anyone knows if rufus pulled down on the bonds like he mentioned?
Posted by betting babe on :
ditto diggy
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning all I take I did not miss anything...although I could have gone without black friday shopping LOL Dang the shoppers here in rochester are brutal! Got most of what I was out to get,but dang little ole me holding those nyorkers at bay was tough LOL glta hope everyone had a great weekend! Posted by frank021474 on :
Good morning all! Been a nice quiet weekend I noticed.
Hope everyone had a good time over the holiday and look forward to an interesting week!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Hello everyone! Yes Frank, very quiet, tooo quiet! We need some good news to get us motivated again. Somebody, anybody?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
good morning everyone. I hope that everyone had a healthy and happy thanksgiving. On the subject of cshd. I don't think we see anything until we close in on the Dec 4th date and maybe not until Dec 17th
Posted by 6digits on :
How do we reach our shareholder committee chairman? We need him to relay to the CEO of CSHD that the backbone of the company needs to be brought up to speed on company events and good reasons why we should'nt be moving forward with the monetizing of the Venezuela bond if that's the case, but let's get an update either way. What harm is that?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning everyone.
Posted by Chart walker on :
Hey peeps!
Intraday charters, flip alert for PNTR!
-whats with CSHD premarket trades?..
Posted by CRab on :
Premarket? If that is the case...then Etrade isn't quoting it any longer...
Posted by Chart walker on :
4346 shares premarket, not a trade yet though....
???
Posted by CRab on :
Actually, looking back...they stopped on Etrade at about one on Friday, lol...well, I suppose it was going to happen eventually...
I just reset by window, I'm showing the premarket now...still flat though...
Ok...it works...someone just traded 95k at .18
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Chart: Time & Sales Price Size Exch Time 0.12 2173 OTO 09:22:31 0.12 2173 OTO 09:20:44 0.15 470 OTO 11/24
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: 4346 shares premarket, not a trade yet though....
???
Posted by Chart walker on :
100,000 at .17!
Posted by frank021474 on :
I am crossin my fingers that we see .10 for a second- so I can pick up more Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: 100,000 at .17!
That looks like a mirror with the 95000+5000.
Good morning all!!
Lets hope for a good week!
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I am crossin my fingers that we see .10 for a second- so I can pick up more
I have an order in at .12
Maybe we are nuts to think about buying more but what the hell...
Posted by 6digits on :
I should'nt have to buy anymore, depending on if I can take Rufus word for it, it was PRed that I would receive 6 shares for each one I own on the 16th of Oct. So I consider it a waste of money now to buy anymore.
Posted by 6digits on :
Did anyone sign up for the shareholder committee? Or did yall just shine it on?
Posted by new2stocks on :
good morning board!
Posted by 6digits on :
Good morning bored!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Anyone notice that James P Gee was involved with the company before?
He is the chairman of the shareholder committee and according to this edgar filing he has previously recieved restricted shares.
On May 14, 2005, the Company issued a total of 75,000 shares of restricted common stock to the following persons:
Sounds like James would be a good guy to get to know ~ Posted by SherriT on :
Good morning all! Hope you had a terrific holiday weekend - the only, well, main thing that would have made mine better is to NOT have to come back to work today Come on CSHD and get with the program... LOL
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Anyone notice that James P Gee was involved with the company before?
He is the chairman of the shareholder committee and according to this edgar filing he has previously recieved restricted shares.
On May 14, 2005, the Company issued a total of 75,000 shares of restricted common stock to the following persons:
Sounds like James would be a good guy to get to know ~
Only if you think being an insider and misleading shareholders is a good thing?
Posted by frank021474 on :
No kidding Chart- I had no idea that he was connected to the company like that.
I thought he was the joe blow shareholder like us-
Posted by Chart walker on :
Now... if we can have just ONE DAY like AMWS is having... -goodbye!!! lol ~
Posted by 6digits on :
Interesting. That might be a conflict of interest. I'm not sure though, but I don't see much input from the committee concerning our presnt status with the company, except that he is all tied up with work like everybody else there.
Posted by 66inxs on :
wouldn't it be nice to get in on a fat finger like that chart!!!
Posted by 6digits on :
Chart thats on 9900 share volume, strange deal.
Posted by Chart walker on :
66, what makes me cry is that that 9900% ISN'T a fat finger, and in fact it was higher!
Weird price pattern,... (year chart)
Posted by Chart walker on :
alright CSHD, in the green
How did that news about the bonds being drawn on spread?? -or the fact that a merger is taking place???
I thought they said they were going to wait till DC to tell that stuff and make it public?!!..
-did I just say that outloud?!!...
[kidding and joking!.. -just having some fun ]
Posted by frank021474 on :
Chart- GREEN IS BAD! I want more CHEAP Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: 66, what makes me cry is that that 9900% ISN'T a fat finger, and in fact it was higher!
Weird price pattern,... (year chart)
Very weird pattern indeed. Any idea what makes it spike like that?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: alright CSHD, in the green
How did that news about the bonds being drawn on spread?? -or the fact that a merger is taking place???
I thought they said they were going to wait till DC to tell that stuff and make it public?!!..
-did I just say that outloud?!!...
[kidding and joking!.. -just having some fun ]
Shame on you! I got excited for a brief second that I'd missed something more than speculation over the holidays. Wouldn't that be great though...
Posted by 66inxs on :
i agree with the weird price pattern but wow! pntr and tcll seem to be doing well so far today too. even cshd is up 20% right now so that would have made a good flip today too. lots of action today!
Posted by frank021474 on :
Ok folks- the movers are going to pack my sofa and coffee table. Its the last two things in the house- which means I have to go offline and stand around and sit on boxes now.
Catch everyone later today!
-fw
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: i agree with the weird price pattern but wow! pntr and tcll seem to be doing well so far today too. even cshd is up 20% right now so that would have made a good flip today too. lots of action today!
pntr, with that much price movement, intraday chart them and scoop dips, Bring your buddies Stochastic and MACD with you and wait for the party ~ Alot of times they sell off and run at EOD.
odd, big markets are down, yet my pennies are almost all green... anyone else seeing that?...
Posted by Synastar1 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Actually, looking back...they stopped on Etrade at about one on Friday, lol...well, I suppose it was going to happen eventually...
I just reset by window, I'm showing the premarket now...still flat though...
Ok...it works...someone just traded 95k at .18
Everything stopped at 1pm on Friday. Market closed early. Posted by ClayN on :
Selling your house to buy more shares of CSHD? haha j/k
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Ok folks- the movers are going to pack my sofa and coffee table. Its the last two things in the house- which means I have to go offline and stand around and sit on boxes now.
Catch everyone later today!
-fw
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by ClayN: Selling your house to buy more shares of CSHD? haha j/k
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: Ok folks- the movers are going to pack my sofa and coffee table. Its the last two things in the house- which means I have to go offline and stand around and sit on boxes now.
Catch everyone later today!
-fw
K they left me a fold up chair- I have another hour to sit and wait.
LOL Sold the house for CSHD shares
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: I am crossin my fingers that we see .10 for a second- so I can pick up more
I have an order in at .12
Maybe we are nuts to think about buying more but what the hell...
yea its like a black hole of money lol u gotta be nuts to be putting massive amounts... IMO max buy in for me would be $100... and maybe next week 100 more etc
Posted by 6digits on :
Chart I don't know about the merger part, but I know That Rufus was on subpenny a week ago announcing to the world that he is going to pull down funds on a bond as I think he put it. In his words he said it would be a 3-5 day process, but I've heard it said that it takes longer. But whats good for Simon and the public should be good for the shareholders.
Posted by frank021474 on :
I sold another crack like stock PAIV (I had it in JPHC days) and bought into this one (FHAL). Turns out this one is more of a soap opera LOL!
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffin glue.... Posted by trade04 on :
wHen will this case be over??? is rufus trying to prove a point? and take it to court and make a big drama out of it? or does the sec have evidence....think about it..
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: wHen will this case be over??? is rufus trying to prove a point? and take it to court and make a big drama out of it? or does the sec have evidence....think about it..
If I remember correctly, the next hearing is scheduled for Dec. 4th, or next Monday, regarding the default issue. Someone please correct me if I am wrong...
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I wonder if Rufus enjoyed his Thanksgiving. May be his last one as a free man, lol !
Anyway still holding some all but worthless shares here in case a miracle happens.
Posted by 6digits on :
SherriT, thats what the word is on the street.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Sherri-
The dates were also being discussed on HSM earlier
Originally Posted by Boo Radley Sure.
SEC sued two entities, CSHD and Rufus Paul Harris. CSHD was served on 10/26/06, had until 11/15/06. They did not answer on time, and the SEC moved for Entry of Default on the 16th, it was entered on the 17th.
Mr. Harris was served on 11/4/06, had until 11/24/06. The SEC may give him today because of the holidays, but my "guess" is they won't treat him any differently than the other defendant, and will move for entry of default soon if he doesn't answer.
I don't throw stuff out there. What are you throwing?
Posted by fhalyesss on :
Wow no bashers here today!!!
Must be in a meeting planning their next offensive!!!! Posted by TimW on :
Well it just hit 10 cents for those of you that are looking to lose more money.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Of course a transaction at .10 and my buy still sits at .12~
Posted by TimW on :
haha.. bounced to .18.. lots of flipping op's for non-individual investors in this one.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Chart I don't know about the merger part, but I know That Rufus was on subpenny a week ago announcing to the world that he is going to pull down funds on a bond as I think he put it. In his words he said it would be a 3-5 day process, but I've heard it said that it takes longer. But whats good for Simon and the public should be good for the shareholders.
I remember him saying that too...
Time will tell ~
Posted by frank021474 on :
He did- and had to use it as a retainer for the expensive lawyer Posted by 6digits on :
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: He did- and had to use it as a retainer for the expensive lawyer
OK so we should be good to go with the rest of the bonds than. Posted by Doniboy on :
Hey, at least we're green so far Posted by SherriT on :
Can anyone with Choicetrade buy CSHD online? Haven't tried, but I knew Scottrade had to be done on the phone...
Posted by Doniboy on :
Oh sure, we are about to finish up a good percentage point and then a mirror trade goes through to bring it back down. Big surprise.
Posted by Rhyz on :
I haven't bought any lately Sherri.. But anytime other brokers wouldnt allow it CT did.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Sounds like we're all in at about the same price. I'm in for 500K at .0024, should be a nice opportunity for some beer money if they let her run a little. Are we expecting any news or events this week?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Sounds like we're all in at about the same price. I'm in for 500K at .0024, should be a nice opportunity for some beer money if they let her run a little. Are we expecting any news or events this week?
Lol, wrong thread ! But if Rufus doesn't pull this out of the mud soon my post may make sense here, lol.
Posted by MTPromises on :
306,000 at 0.156
Posted by Doniboy on :
$47,736???????? WTF?????????
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: 306,000 at 0.156
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: $47,736???????? WTF?????????
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: 306,000 at 0.156
Someone else has quite a bit of belief in this stock...or had a lot to cover Posted by a surfer on :
Thats the biggest order I have seen filled or sold.
Hmm right before the bell too.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I talked with a trading acquaintance of mine over Thanksgiving. He bought 250K shares of FHAL under .20
He did not sell at .50
He did not sell at $1
He did not sell at $2
He still did not sell at $3
He unbelievably did not sell over $3.50
He held. And then woke up to find the SEC Halt. Now his shares are right back where they started.
Can you all imagine? He could have made close to a million if he had sold. I asked why he didn't and he really believed that Rufus would get this to $15 per share as promised, and that he beleived the company.
Can you imagine going from a paper profit of 950K to a paper LOSS in a few WEEKS ?
That made me feel a little better about losing a few grand here (so far). Wow, and there are many similar stories in this stock. I truly hope that lessons have been learned here.
That just blew me away !!!
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: I talked with a trading acquaintance of mine over Thanksgiving. He bought 250K shares of FHAL under .20
He did not sell at .50
He did not sell at $1
He did not sell at $2
He still did not sell at $3
He unbelievably did not sell over $3.50
He held. And then woke up to find the SEC Halt. Now his shares are right back where they started.
Can you all imagine? He could have made close to a million if he had sold. I asked why he didn't and he really believed that Rufus would get this to $15 per share as promised, and that he beleived the company.
Can you imagine going from a paper profit of 950K to a paper LOSS in a few WEEKS ?
That made me feel a little better about losing a few grand here (so far). Wow, and there are many similar stories in this stock. I truly hope that lessons have been learned here.
That just blew me away !!!
Hindsight is 20/20 and your friend was following HIS investment strategy based on his capital, research and belief in the company. Nothing about that is wrong.
In terms of learning a lesson, I believe you are jumping the gun a bit considering that we have no information indicating that the original potential of CVSU is not still intact. There may be a time in the near future where patient investors are looking at impatient penny flippers wondering how it must feel to have sold out for a loss when the play was still unfolding.
But in the end, to each their own. For me, it is not a loss until I sell and I will not sell until the current events have reached a satisfactory resolution one way or another.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Just came back from the meeting of the "CHSD Basher's Committee." After further review, we all still feel like this stock is, was and always will be a PoS.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: I talked with a trading acquaintance of mine over Thanksgiving. He bought 250K shares of FHAL under .20
He did not sell at .50
He did not sell at $1
He did not sell at $2
He still did not sell at $3
He unbelievably did not sell over $3.50
He held. And then woke up to find the SEC Halt. Now his shares are right back where they started.
Can you all imagine? He could have made close to a million if he had sold. I asked why he didn't and he really believed that Rufus would get this to $15 per share as promised, and that he beleived the company.
Can you imagine going from a paper profit of 950K to a paper LOSS in a few WEEKS ?
That made me feel a little better about losing a few grand here (so far). Wow, and there are many similar stories in this stock. I truly hope that lessons have been learned here.
That just blew me away !!!
Hindsight is 20/20 and your friend was following HIS investment strategy based on his capital, research and belief in the company. Nothing about that is wrong.
In terms of learning a lesson, I believe you are jumping the gun a bit considering that we have no information indicating that the original potential of CVSU is not still intact. There may be a time in the near future where patient investors are looking at impatient penny flippers wondering how it must feel to have sold out for a loss when the play was still unfolding.
But in the end, to each their own. For me, it is not a loss until I sell and I will not sell until the current events have reached a satisfactory resolution one way or another.
... In My humble Opinion
It's a loss, whatever you choose to "believe." More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wow...you actually had a meeting? And? You had to "review" it? It's trading on the greys? You had to go through all that to come up with that conclusion? Where were you when it was trading at $2, $3 and $4? Setting up your meeting?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Just came back from the meeting of the "CHSD Basher's Committee." After further review, we all still feel like this stock is, was and always will be a PoS.
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
... In My humble Opinion [/qb]
It's a loss, whatever you choose to "believe." More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Facetious much? That you guys actually BELIEVE there is an organized effort to bash this PoS is just hilarious.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wow...you actually had a meeting? And? You had to "review" it? It's trading on the greys? You had to go through all that to come up with that conclusion? Where were you when it was trading at $2, $3 and $4? Setting up your meeting?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Just came back from the meeting of the "CHSD Basher's Committee." After further review, we all still feel like this stock is, was and always will be a PoS.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
People lose tons of money this way because they become emotionally attached to a stock that at one time was worth X amount, and they refuse to sell it, even as its price further decreases, causing not only lost "opportunity cost" but lost ACTUAL cost. Stocks like this don't "come back." And the moeny CERTAINLY could have been put to better use if people had sold this PoS at .40-.50 or so, when it became VERY clear what was going on, after the suspension. The owners would have had twice the REAL capital they now possess in this PoS (a very REAL cost, not an opportunity cost), and they would potentially be investing in stocks that could further increase that capital (the opportunity cost).
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Facetious much? That you guys actually BELIEVE there is an organized effort to bash this PoS is just hilarious.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wow...you actually had a meeting? And? You had to "review" it? It's trading on the greys? You had to go through all that to come up with that conclusion? Where were you when it was trading at $2, $3 and $4? Setting up your meeting?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Just came back from the meeting of the "CHSD Basher's Committee." After further review, we all still feel like this stock is, was and always will be a PoS.
Many people sitting tight are more than comfortable that, based on research and experience, this is a good hold while this plays out. If the risk/reward does not fit your portfolio then you are free to flip for more immediate gains.
Good luck to each person achieving their goals with their chosen strategy.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
People lose tons of money this way because they become emotionally attached to a stock that at one time was worth X amount, and they refuse to sell it, even as its price further decreases, causing not only lost "opportunity cost" but lost ACTUAL cost. Stocks like this don't "come back." And the moeny CERTAINLY could have been put to better use if people had sold this PoS at .40-.50 or so, when it became VERY clear what was going on, after the suspension. The owners would have had twice the REAL capital they now possess in this PoS (a very REAL cost, not an opportunity cost), and they would potentially be investing in stocks that could further increase that capital (the opportunity cost).
By this logic everyone who ever held a stock through ups and downs was losing actual money due to their inability to predict the future. I still don't follow.
Retroactive assumptions do no good in the real world. CSHD is in a position to break either way. Based on DD, many have chosen to ride out the possible upside in favor of cutting and running. If you have moved on then good luck on the next play.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
People lose tons of money this way because they become emotionally attached to a stock that at one time was worth X amount, and they refuse to sell it, even as its price further decreases, causing not only lost "opportunity cost" but lost ACTUAL cost. Stocks like this don't "come back." And the moeny CERTAINLY could have been put to better use if people had sold this PoS at .40-.50 or so, when it became VERY clear what was going on, after the suspension. The owners would have had twice the REAL capital they now possess in this PoS (a very REAL cost, not an opportunity cost), and they would potentially be investing in stocks that could further increase that capital (the opportunity cost).
By this logic everyone who ever held a stock through ups and downs was losing actual money due to their inability to predict the future. I still don't follow.
Retroactive assumptions do no good in the real world. CSHD is in a position to break either way. Based on DD, many have chosen to ride out the possible upside in favor of cutting and running. If you have moved on then good luck on the next play.
... In My humble Opinion
Anyone who holds a stock not traded on the major exchanges for any extended period of time is doing nothing more than buying an expensive lottery ticket. There's a REASON these stocks are not listed. I have no problem playing them, but they are worth nothing more than a short-term momentum play to anyone who has any respect at ALL for his/her capital.
Posted by TimW on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
Anyone who holds a stock not traded on the major exchanges for any extended period of time is doing nothing more than buying an expensive lottery ticket. There's a REASON these stocks are not listed. I have no problem playing them, but they are worth nothing more than a short-term momentum play to anyone who has any respect at ALL for his/her capital. [/QB]
Yep, except lotto tickets have WAY better odds. Posted by humble on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
People lose tons of money this way because they become emotionally attached to a stock that at one time was worth X amount, and they refuse to sell it, even as its price further decreases, causing not only lost "opportunity cost" but lost ACTUAL cost. Stocks like this don't "come back." And the moeny CERTAINLY could have been put to better use if people had sold this PoS at .40-.50 or so, when it became VERY clear what was going on, after the suspension. The owners would have had twice the REAL capital they now possess in this PoS (a very REAL cost, not an opportunity cost), and they would potentially be investing in stocks that could further increase that capital (the opportunity cost).
By this logic everyone who ever held a stock through ups and downs was losing actual money due to their inability to predict the future. I still don't follow.
Retroactive assumptions do no good in the real world. CSHD is in a position to break either way. Based on DD, many have chosen to ride out the possible upside in favor of cutting and running. If you have moved on then good luck on the next play.
... In My humble Opinion
Anyone who holds a stock not traded on the major exchanges for any extended period of time is doing nothing more than buying an expensive lottery ticket. There's a REASON these stocks are not listed. I have no problem playing them, but they are worth nothing more than a short-term momentum play to anyone who has any respect at ALL for his/her capital.
Yes, your investment strategies have been thorougly exhausted in your many posts in the past. However, playing the pennies with a flipper/MoMo strategy and doing exhaustive research in an effort to find the ground floor of something big are two different things.
I seem to remember that, in the past, research was not something that interested you so it is no wonder this play is of no interest to you at this point. Great work flipping it if you had success and good luck on future plays.
It is simply counterproductive to continually post what could have been when many people are waiting for a factual resolution to the current SEC investigation.
... In My humble Opinion
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by humble:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I will assume you must be speaking of opportunity cost, which is valid but certainly an unknown. If not, please explain how:
"More people have lost more money based on your "it's not a loss until I sell it" theory than any other trading "theory" out there."
You obviously have much to teach us.
... In My humble Opinion
People lose tons of money this way because they become emotionally attached to a stock that at one time was worth X amount, and they refuse to sell it, even as its price further decreases, causing not only lost "opportunity cost" but lost ACTUAL cost. Stocks like this don't "come back." And the moeny CERTAINLY could have been put to better use if people had sold this PoS at .40-.50 or so, when it became VERY clear what was going on, after the suspension. The owners would have had twice the REAL capital they now possess in this PoS (a very REAL cost, not an opportunity cost), and they would potentially be investing in stocks that could further increase that capital (the opportunity cost).
By this logic everyone who ever held a stock through ups and downs was losing actual money due to their inability to predict the future. I still don't follow.
Retroactive assumptions do no good in the real world. CSHD is in a position to break either way. Based on DD, many have chosen to ride out the possible upside in favor of cutting and running. If you have moved on then good luck on the next play.
... In My humble Opinion
Anyone who holds a stock not traded on the major exchanges for any extended period of time is doing nothing more than buying an expensive lottery ticket. There's a REASON these stocks are not listed. I have no problem playing them, but they are worth nothing more than a short-term momentum play to anyone who has any respect at ALL for his/her capital.
Yes, your investment strategies have been thorougly exhausted in your many posts in the past. However, playing the pennies with a flipper/MoMo strategy and doing exhaustive research in an effort to find the ground floor of something big are two different things.
I seem to remember that, in the past, research was not something that interested you so it is no wonder this play is of no interest to you at this point. Great work flipping it if you had success and good luck on future plays.
It is simply counterproductive to continually post what could have been when many people are waiting for a factual resolution to the current SEC investigation.
... In My humble Opinion
It is NOT "counterproductive" to post investment strategy FACTS regarding the penny stocks. The number of legit companies trading in the non-listed pennies is so small that finding a legit one is like searching for the proverbial needle in a haystack. You might as well just go out and buy $1K, $10K, $100K, or whatever of $2 lottery tickets. Momentum plays are both more predictable, and safer as well, since a disciplined trader will never hesitate to cut losses on a stock that moves against his play. If your goal is to find a legit company, with explosive long-term growth potential, in the $0.50-$2 range, the exchange-traded stocks are the way to go. I have no problem with legit DD, but sifting through the bull**** to find the real DD on such PoS companies as CSHD is simply impossible.
The above is not my "humble opinion", it's fact.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
BTW, I wouldn't touch this PoS with a 10-foot pole and radiation-proof gloves. There is no predictability to the charts (a common characteristic of a pump-and-dump), and even less credibility to the supposed executive team.
Posted by 6digits on :
On a more positive note, I hope it is'nt going to take an SEC (KGB) investigation every time in order to get Rufus to show his hand in this gamble.
Posted by 6digits on :
Kevin Bailey I think we got your point. If this stock is so meaningless why don't you go ponder something else.
Posted by sandor butosi on :
From IHUB today: a basher slips!
Posted by: liable In reply to: wolfatthedoor who wrote msg# 136000 Date:11/27/2006 6:28:09 PM Post #of 136014
All chances of things going well were shattered when Rufus ignored the SEC inquiry way back in September. He made it quite apparent he wasn't willing to cooperate giving them more reason to investigate CSHD for fraud. sc4good will tell you the paid bashers are responsible for this. Believe me, if I could somehow take credit for the suspension, my boss would be willing to send my family to Australia for two months. A bonus like that is rarely awarded to Pitchforks or Silver Tongued Devils.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yes Kevin, there are/were plenty of "signs" that there was a very big effort by "bashers" and others to bring this stock down...I won't attempt to point it out...but it was quite interesting to watch...and yes I thought poorly of those people just as I would think poorly of those that attempted to pump this stock... I was not, nor am I, one that buys in ANY stock and just holds...I won't speak of what gains or of what losses I may or may not have had with this stock...but I assure you...my family is still eating...
The kind of people that are very "irritating" are the kind that come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...that is just beyond my comprehension as a human being...it's adding salt to the wound and pretty much makes the individual pond scum in my book... Thank God there are "tadpoles" to eat that pond scum...at least in the real world... You probably don't like tadpoles do you?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yes Kevin, there are/were plenty of "signs" that there was a very big effort by "bashers" and others to bring this stock down...I won't attempt to point it out...but it was quite interesting to watch...and yes I thought poorly of those people just as I would think poorly of those that attempted to pump this stock... I was not, nor am I, one that buys in ANY stock and just holds...I won't speak of what gains or of what losses I may or may not have had with this stock...but I assure you...my family is still eating...
The kind of people that are very "irritating" are the kind that come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...that is just beyond my comprehension as a human being...it's adding salt to the wound and pretty much makes the individual pond scum in my book... Thank God there are "tadpoles" to eat that pond scum...at least in the real world... You probably don't like tadpoles do you?
Point out one time when I've called someone "dumb", "stupid", "foolish", or other personal attacks. That's the problem with stocks like this: you call the STOCK a PoS, and people feel like you're calling THEM a PoS. It's not the same. Now, what YOU are doing on the other hand (calling me "scum", fit for a tadpole to eat) is quite personal, and has been duly noted. It's interesting that one who cares so deeply about non-existent personal attacks by me would turn around and say what you said in your post.
Posted by glassman on :
UHH?
KB? reread your post? you are using a flawed logic system.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
BTW, there's no such thing as an organized group of "bashers." You all might like to THINK there is, but there's not. I've never met Repoman, and I don't visit any other board. The people who call this stock a PoS are simply calling it like they see it. Now was there an organized attempt to pump this stock up, that many were duped by? It appears there was. For those who "sold through the run", as would have been the play advised by most speculators, congratulations. For those who held, thinking this stock was somehow "different" than every other worthless non-exchange penny, it's time to sell and cut your losses, if you want to salvage anything resembling capital from this investment. If you bought 500 shares at $2 (as many probably did), you may well be advised to simply write this one off as a tough lesson learned, as the commissions would eat almost all the capital on such a sell currently. I've heard it said that bought lessons are the best lessons, and this stock would seem to be a prime example of this.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yes Kevin, there are/were plenty of "signs" that there was a very big effort by "bashers" and others to bring this stock down...I won't attempt to point it out...but it was quite interesting to watch...and yes I thought poorly of those people just as I would think poorly of those that attempted to pump this stock... I was not, nor am I, one that buys in ANY stock and just holds...I won't speak of what gains or of what losses I may or may not have had with this stock...but I assure you...my family is still eating...
The kind of people that are very "irritating" are the kind that come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...that is just beyond my comprehension as a human being...it's adding salt to the wound and pretty much makes the individual pond scum in my book... Thank God there are "tadpoles" to eat that pond scum...at least in the real world... You probably don't like tadpoles do you?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: UHH?
KB? reread your post? you are using a flawed logic system.
I did not. I simply pointed out that for one who claims to care so much about ME getting personal (which I have not done), he seemed to be getting VERY personal, comparing me to "scum" fit to be eaten by tadpoles. I'm not seeing the flaw.
Posted by glassman on :
BTW, there's no such thing as an organized group of "bashers."
right....
you know everything?
there are plenty of hedge type "groups" that work together... i see them all the time..
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: UHH?
KB? reread your post? you are using a flawed logic system.
I did not. I simply pointed out that for one who claims to care so much about ME getting personal (which I have not done), he seemed to be getting VERY personal, comparing me to "scum" fit to be eaten by tadpoles. I'm not seeing the flaw.
reread...
it's an if-then type of statement....
you are only tadpole food if you did in fact:
come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...
otherwise? you aren't tadpole fodder..
i'm a silverback Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: BTW, I wouldn't touch this PoS with a 10-foot pole and radiation-proof gloves. There is no predictability to the charts (a common characteristic of a pump-and-dump), and even less credibility to the supposed executive team.
I wish you wouldn't touch this thread with a ten foot pole too.
I-hub is a click away. GET LOST!!
You have written your point on several occasions. Do you think anyone has listened???
You are wasting your time.........
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kevin? First...never assume a poster is a he or she... Second...Organized? Never said there was... Third...why would you get so defensive that I asked if you liked tadpoles? Fourth? please don't take this as an attack..BUT...as an observation of your posts? You assume and "read" between way too many lines...which unjustly shows your intelligence and perhaps a lack of understanding.. AND last but most definitely not least...I like Repo Posted by glassman on :
no way 10 say it ain't so...
Posted by a surfer on :
How are you 10??
Yea I like Repo too. We're bet buddies.... LOL
Posted by TexasMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: UHH?
KB? reread your post? you are using a flawed logic system.
I did not. I simply pointed out that for one who claims to care so much about ME getting personal (which I have not done), he seemed to be getting VERY personal, comparing me to "scum" fit to be eaten by tadpoles. I'm not seeing the flaw.
If you believe the market is sentiment, which most valued opinion does, then you are incredibly naïve thinking there aren’t groups trying to make the market – especially in the land of OTC. There are plenty of crosses erected by the SEC with pump and dumpers (sentiment makers) nailed to them to validate the opinion.
Honestly, I don’t think you are a paid “basher” even though you fit the profile – lack of “critical thinking” skills, offer noting constructive, and generally combative.
Since you don’t have a vested interest in the company, and you probably aren’t a “sentiment maker”, then there can only be one logic reason for you to be here. Your sack of ****! Posted by 10of13 on :
Surfer? At first I read your post wrong...bet=bed...phew...glad I re-read Doin' well...and you?
glass? I know...it's just that sometimes it's so darn cute how he just "busts open the door" with his smart a$$ comments...BUT he always closes the door when he leaves...
Kevin? just 1 more question? A few months ago...MN 1 put out a PR that Rufus and someone called MINI shorts or something like that, would be on their radio interview...IF THERE is no such thing as an organized group of bashers or paid bashers or what ever term one would like to use...Could you explain to me who paid for the PR? After all Rufus wasn't on...never was going to be AND? It ended up to be that mini short (or whatever the name was) and Our Street...what was that? Just pure luck? Our Street is always around as a back up? Can you explain that? Just curious as to what your thoughts would be with that...since you are so POSITIVE there is no such thing?
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yes Kevin, there are/were plenty of "signs" that there was a very big effort by "bashers" and others to bring this stock down...I won't attempt to point it out...but it was quite interesting to watch...and yes I thought poorly of those people just as I would think poorly of those that attempted to pump this stock... I was not, nor am I, one that buys in ANY stock and just holds...I won't speak of what gains or of what losses I may or may not have had with this stock...but I assure you...my family is still eating...
The kind of people that are very "irritating" are the kind that come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...that is just beyond my comprehension as a human being...it's adding salt to the wound and pretty much makes the individual pond scum in my book... Thank God there are "tadpoles" to eat that pond scum...at least in the real world... You probably don't like tadpoles do you?
Point out one time when I've called someone "dumb", "stupid", "foolish", or other personal attacks. That's the problem with stocks like this: you call the STOCK a PoS, and people feel like you're calling THEM a PoS. It's not the same. Now, what YOU are doing on the other hand (calling me "scum", fit for a tadpole to eat) is quite personal, and has been duly noted. It's interesting that one who cares so deeply about non-existent personal attacks by me would turn around and say what you said in your post.
lol....good post
Posted by tompom on :
actually i meant 10´s post... geez i need another smoke
Posted by tompom on :
there are no organized bashers naked short selling does not exist there is no torture in the U.S. and yes there were WMD`s in irak but now they are hding them in iran... got it?
Posted by tompom on :
reminds me of tony soprano: " mafia?, THERE IS NO MAFIA!" roflmao
Posted by glassman on :
and Syria? they got the WMD's into Syria too... with trucks...... i saw the satellite pix....
a few over in Palestine too...
the SHO list is a fake... the NASDAQ only posts it to fool the gullible...
if there would have been as much effort to pump this stock as there was to bash it, CSHD would have easily seen 15$ imo naked shortselling? THERE IS NO NAKED SHORT SELLING! end of story lol
Posted by cassity on :
PORTMAN YOU STILL ALIVE?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: UHH?
KB? reread your post? you are using a flawed logic system.
I did not. I simply pointed out that for one who claims to care so much about ME getting personal (which I have not done), he seemed to be getting VERY personal, comparing me to "scum" fit to be eaten by tadpoles. I'm not seeing the flaw.
reread...
it's an if-then type of statement....
you are only tadpole food if you did in fact:
come into a thread, after the stock falls and calls anyone involved in the stock names such as stupid, dumb, foolish or just plain criticizing the people for their individual choices...
otherwise? you aren't tadpole fodder..
i'm a silverback
Reread the last part of his post. He was saying that I was one of those people he referred to as scum. I just found that interesting, coming from someone who claimed to have a problem with people insulting others. No fallacy on my part.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin? First...never assume a poster is a he or she... Second...Organized? Never said there was... Third...why would you get so defensive that I asked if you liked tadpoles? Fourth? please don't take this as an attack..BUT...as an observation of your posts? You assume and "read" between way too many lines...which unjustly shows your intelligence and perhaps a lack of understanding.. AND last but most definitely not least...I like Repo
You wrote what you wrote, and implied what you implied. I don't deal in personal attacks. You do. While you couch them obliquely, you still do it. I don't care much really, I just thought it was interesting that you who claimed to be offended by people insulting others dipped into that well yourself.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: there are no organized bashers naked short selling does not exist there is no torture in the U.S. and yes there were WMD`s in irak but now they are hding them in iran... got it?
If you're looking for logical fallacies, I present you with Exhibit A: the above post.
Posted by tompom on :
kevin, i´d say it´s really time for you to get a life...
Posted by cassity on :
O.K folks, the bashers have clearly shown there is no such thing as a basher, so since they don't exsist let's stop engaging them in conversation! BTW: HI EVERYONE.........I'm BOREEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: kevin, i´d say it´s really time for you to get a life...
I'd say that I'll damn well do whatever the hell I want.
Cassity- I'd also say that you should check my posting history. I'm no "basher." I'm simply one of the only voices of reason in this thread.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hi Cassity...Your bored? Why do you think anyone was talking to Kevin? Even though he seems a little slow at a few things...I have faith that he'll get it... Kevin? You never did answer the question about M N 1... Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
kevin, you are way to emotional about this stock, it's in the rules, no one should fall in love with a stock. try to detach yourself a little at a time if possible...
Posted by TimW on :
He has no emotion to the stock.. Read his posts!!
He has only come here, posting FACTS and then his opinion on those facts.
Everyone else has taken them as personal attacks, and has personally called him out.
He has done nothing wrong, the CSHD mafia is ganging up on him.
Its a stock, theres no reason to make it personal.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
TimW-
I just think it's kind of humorous that folks like Driver project their OWN emotions onto folks like me.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: He has no emotion to the stock.. Read his posts!!
He has only come here, posting FACTS and then his opinion on those facts.
Everyone else has taken them as personal attacks, and has personally called him out.
He has done nothing wrong, the CSHD mafia is ganging up on him.
Its a stock, theres no reason to make it personal.
I have read some of his posts and yes seems a bit emotional to me, is he a share holder ??? if he is I understand the frustration, if he is not, not sure why he would want to bring a negative feeling to the shareholders glimmer of light, people bought this stock at 3 - 4 bucks a share, what does he want them to sell at .18c ... at this point one hopes it can rebound or see it to the bottom.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: TimW-
I just think it's kind of humorous that folks like Driver project their OWN emotions onto folks like me.
kevin, are you a share holder ???
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: He has no emotion to the stock.. Read his posts!!
He has only come here, posting FACTS and then his opinion on those facts.
Everyone else has taken them as personal attacks, and has personally called him out.
He has done nothing wrong, the CSHD mafia is ganging up on him.
Its a stock, theres no reason to make it personal.
I have read some of his posts and yes seems a bit emotional to me, is he a share holder ??? if he is I understand the frustration, if he is not, not sure why he would want to bring a negative feeling to the shareholders glimmer of light, people bought this stock at 3 - 4 bucks a share, what does he want them to sell at .18c ... at this point one hopes it can rebound or see it to the bottom.
Where? The key to trading well is a lack of emotion. I pride myself on maintaining it.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: TimW-
I just think it's kind of humorous that folks like Driver project their OWN emotions onto folks like me.
kevin, are you a share holder ???
Doesn't matter. No rule on this board says only shareholders can post in a thread regarding a stock. I know that might make you angry, but frankly, that doesn't matter to me at all.
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by TimW: He has no emotion to the stock.. Read his posts!!
He has only come here, posting FACTS and then his opinion on those facts.
Everyone else has taken them as personal attacks, and has personally called him out.
He has done nothing wrong, the CSHD mafia is ganging up on him.
Its a stock, theres no reason to make it personal.
I have read some of his posts and yes seems a bit emotional to me, is he a share holder ??? if he is I understand the frustration, if he is not, not sure why he would want to bring a negative feeling to the shareholders glimmer of light, people bought this stock at 3 - 4 bucks a share, what does he want them to sell at .18c ... at this point one hopes it can rebound or see it to the bottom.
Where? The key to trading well is a lack of emotion. I pride myself on maintaining it.
you are right on that point, but, tens of thousands of dollars already lost, I just dont see the point of argueing , no one will prolly sell at this kind of a loss, all we can hope for is a rebound and truth.
Posted by TimW on :
Id bet he was in, is in, or wants to be in eventually.
No other reason to hang around if the stock means nothing to you.. right?
Posted by cassity on :
Kevin I know your not a basher, but I really don't know why you would spend so much time arguing with individuals on this thread. Time will tell who is right and wrong, and until that time everything else is SPECULATION! GLTY and I was just messin with ya my friend. Goodnight everyone, may tomorrow bring SOMETHING GOOD! Oh HI 10, thanks for noticing me!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kevin...serious... I'm attempting to challenge your post of the "no such thing as a basher point"... I'm not here to question your IQ... the IQ thing? you ASSUMED I was a male, I made mention of your intelligence...only attempting to open your eyes as to the FACT that you post as if you are all knowing...get over it...you aren't...none of us are... AND I am not emotionally attached to this stock... I am emotionally attached to how others treat other people... If you would like to accuse me of doing the same as you...? I DID NOT COME ON TO A BOARD FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE of belittling others...OR of their position of a stock...but in having read your past posts on this board...you have attempted to do so..in your own round-about-manner...just as I asked if you liked tadpoles...
Now..the No such basher point...? MN 1? can you answer that? Can you provide links as to the "well known" fact there is no such thing as organized or unorganized bashing? And we will leave emotion out of this...Deal?
livon? Can I have some popcorn?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Posted by T e x on :
skimmed a coupla pages...
seems to be going by the book...
did I miss any news re" CEO's deadline?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I didn't say that there was "no such thing as a basher." I said that there aren't the "basher clubs" that the people on this thread seem to think there are, attacking this PoS stock. No, it crashed all on its own.
Additionally, you have provided less than no evidence of your claim that I have attacked other people on this thread. Have I posted less than laudatory statements about the STOCK? Definitely. It's YOU guys that are taking these postings PERSONALLY. I haven't been attacking PEOPLE at all.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin...serious... I'm attempting to challenge your post of the "no such thing as a basher point"... I'm not here to question your IQ... the IQ thing? you ASSUMED I was a male, I made mention of your intelligence...only attempting to open your eyes as to the FACT that you post as if you are all knowing...get over it...you aren't...none of us are... AND I am not emotionally attached to this stock... I am emotionally attached to how others treat other people... If you would like to accuse me of doing the same as you...? I DID NOT COME ON TO A BOARD FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE of belittling others...OR of their position of a stock...but in having read your past posts on this board...you have attempted to do so..in your own round-about-manner...just as I asked if you liked tadpoles...
Now..the No such basher point...? MN 1? can you answer that? Can you provide links as to the "well known" fact there is no such thing as organized or unorganized bashing? And we will leave emotion out of this...Deal?
livon? Can I have some popcorn?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: skimmed a coupla pages...
seems to be going by the book...
did I miss any news re" CEO's deadline?
Fellow Fort Worth guy, huh? Great city. I really like it here. Lived here all your life, or transplanted like me?
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Thank you for your opinion. I think it is safe to say that everyone has a completely clear understanding of it at this point.
If anyone asks about your opinion later I will be happy to point your posts out to them. I have so many to choose from after all.
Feel secure in the knowledge that you have no need to continue expressing that same opinion over and over again from this point on.
"I got your back man"
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Hi to all,back from my vaction and I see I haven;t missed a lot,except I really do miss our "old" crew! I know it's painful to see alot that is being written.A smart person once said "I never give an opinion unless I'm asked for one" MOMMA oh that person was me haha
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
Hi Chart! from one "old" one to another!
Posted by 10of13 on :
So? No comment on the MN 1 thing? You have not been able to provide any evidence that there is no such thing as an "organized basher club"..."we" are suppose to take your word for it and all that have a different opinon are simply wrong? As for your concern of the posts that you attacked people? you are correct we will not find them here in these threads...Why? they have been deleted... Guess we will have to wait until the spring for more tadpoles...
Have a good night Kevin..and GLTY!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I didn't say that there was "no such thing as a basher." I said that there aren't the "basher clubs" that the people on this thread seem to think there are, attacking this PoS stock. No, it crashed all on its own.
Additionally, you have provided less than no evidence of your claim that I have attacked other people on this thread. Have I posted less than laudatory statements about the STOCK? Definitely. It's YOU guys that are taking these postings PERSONALLY. I haven't been attacking PEOPLE at all.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin...serious... I'm attempting to challenge your post of the "no such thing as a basher point"... I'm not here to question your IQ... the IQ thing? you ASSUMED I was a male, I made mention of your intelligence...only attempting to open your eyes as to the FACT that you post as if you are all knowing...get over it...you aren't...none of us are... AND I am not emotionally attached to this stock... I am emotionally attached to how others treat other people... If you would like to accuse me of doing the same as you...? I DID NOT COME ON TO A BOARD FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE of belittling others...OR of their position of a stock...but in having read your past posts on this board...you have attempted to do so..in your own round-about-manner...just as I asked if you liked tadpoles...
Now..the No such basher point...? MN 1? can you answer that? Can you provide links as to the "well known" fact there is no such thing as organized or unorganized bashing? And we will leave emotion out of this...Deal?
livon? Can I have some popcorn?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
quote:Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Thank you for your opinion. I think it is safe to say that everyone has a completely clear understanding of it at this point.
If anyone asks about your opinion later I will be happy to point your posts out to them. I have so many to choose from after all.
Feel secure in the knowledge that you have no need to continue expressing that same opinion over and over again from this point on.
"I got your back man"
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
Now you're lying. I haven't had attack posts deleted, because I don't post attacks. If you're going to lie, at least be better at it.
As for "MN 1", I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: So? No comment on the MN 1 thing? You have not been able to provide any evidence that there is no such thing as an "organized basher club"..."we" are suppose to take your word for it and all that have a different opinon are simply wrong? As for your concern of the posts that you attacked people? you are correct we will not find them here in these threads...Why? they have been deleted... Guess we will have to wait until the spring for more tadpoles...
Have a good night Kevin..and GLTY!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I didn't say that there was "no such thing as a basher." I said that there aren't the "basher clubs" that the people on this thread seem to think there are, attacking this PoS stock. No, it crashed all on its own.
Additionally, you have provided less than no evidence of your claim that I have attacked other people on this thread. Have I posted less than laudatory statements about the STOCK? Definitely. It's YOU guys that are taking these postings PERSONALLY. I haven't been attacking PEOPLE at all.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin...serious... I'm attempting to challenge your post of the "no such thing as a basher point"... I'm not here to question your IQ... the IQ thing? you ASSUMED I was a male, I made mention of your intelligence...only attempting to open your eyes as to the FACT that you post as if you are all knowing...get over it...you aren't...none of us are... AND I am not emotionally attached to this stock... I am emotionally attached to how others treat other people... If you would like to accuse me of doing the same as you...? I DID NOT COME ON TO A BOARD FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE of belittling others...OR of their position of a stock...but in having read your past posts on this board...you have attempted to do so..in your own round-about-manner...just as I asked if you liked tadpoles...
Now..the No such basher point...? MN 1? can you answer that? Can you provide links as to the "well known" fact there is no such thing as organized or unorganized bashing? And we will leave emotion out of this...Deal?
livon? Can I have some popcorn?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: 10of13-
For the record, I'll put my IQ up against anyone's any day.
All- I notice no one's been able to point out where I've attacked anyone. You are all proving my point that when one gets emotionally attached to a stock, they take all perceived "attacks" on the stock as "personal" attacks.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kevin states: "I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about."
Guess that sums it up...
(edit: maybe i was mistaken about the posts being delted...I didn't check...)
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
It's funny how someone claims I post "attacks", and then falls back on, "Well, they've all been deleted" when called out on the lie. I don't attack PEOPLE. I don't take this stuff personally, unless people get personal with ME. I never make it personal. It's about the NUMBERS.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin states: "I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about."
Guess that sums it up...
If you say so. If you have links regarding "MN 1" feel free to post them. I'll take a look at whatever you have. Otherwise, you should probably get back to me on your evidence regarding your accusations of me attacking people.
Wait, I forgot, you're now claiming these phantom posts have been deleted. How convenient.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin states: "I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about."
Guess that sums it up...
Hi 10, I thought the same thing.Life is too short for added stress from someone who is always so negitive, just ignore and have a good night.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin states: "I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about."
Guess that sums it up...
(edit: maybe i was mistaken about the posts being delted...I didn't check...)
You weren't "mistaken", you made it up. I haven't been attacking people.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin states: "I may have missed something, but I don't know what you're talking about."
Guess that sums it up...
Hi 10, I thought the same thing.Life is too short for added stress from someone who is always so negitive, just ignore and have a good night.
If nothing else, you all's relentless optimism in the face of all evidence regarding this stock is a decent distraction while I do some research for actual money-making plays.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kevin Bailey Member
posted November 17, 2006 09:30 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know it's hard for you to get your mind wrapped around a stock with actual potential for gains,"
that's the very first post i went to of yours...and i am positive that there are others... Kevin...you win... I am the one in the wrong... tah tah...it's been fun...
Posted by Spooky on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
Eloquent, insightful, poignant, courageous, and lets not forget pointless. How do you manage to keep voicing your unsolicited, unwanted, and non-productive opinions in the face of so much adversity? The psyche of posters like yourself is a truly fascinating topic. Please shed some light on why you find so much pleasure in seeking negative attention this way.
I'm actually interested in finding an honest response to this question by the way.
-Spooky
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin Bailey Member
posted November 17, 2006 09:30 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know it's hard for you to get your mind wrapped around a stock with actual potential for gains,"
that's the very first post i went to of yours...and i am positive that there are others... Kevin...you win... I am the one in the wrong... tah tah...it's been fun...
How is saying that it's hard for someone to get their mind around a stock (emphasis on STOCK)with actual potential for gain the same as implying that someone is like pond scum to be consumed by tadpoles? And if that's the worst "personal attack" you can find, you've got a lot of work left to do. All that proves is that I was defending myself against someone who was attacking me for a pick I posted, because of my opinion on CSHD. Wow. I'm really quite the "attacker."
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kevin Bailey Member
posted November 16, 2006 11:40 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by RushDaBus:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He has no point, that's part of his charm. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've made several points. You simply seem to be too unintelligent to grasp them.
Serious Kevin...I'm done...but don't get so uptight....LOL
Posted by T e x on :
Well, actually...no, you won't...
OK...more accurate, if your take is you can trash the board...???
sorry...any member can post, obviously...but that's not to say that all posts remain posted.
To remain a member here? You do have guidelines and rules.
Am I saying you've crossed the line?
Not at all...from what I've seen, so far.
But then, I'm in n out...
For instance: I saw a post a while back that purported to be a fail-safe way to *make* MMs post a bid on a grey-market stock.
I challenged that, and subsequently the poster himself/herself asked that it be removed.
Yes! Post the truth as you know it--Yes! Post your DD!
But do *not* be beguiled into thinking you can post whatever suits your fancy...
make sense?
Hope so...
Tex
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
quote:Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Thank you for your opinion. I think it is safe to say that everyone has a completely clear understanding of it at this point.
If anyone asks about your opinion later I will be happy to point your posts out to them. I have so many to choose from after all.
Feel secure in the knowledge that you have no need to continue expressing that same opinion over and over again from this point on.
"I got your back man"
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
NEWS OUT.....
November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST
Conversion Solutions Announces New Management Team Appointed by Majority Shareholders Vote to Move the Company Forward Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (OTCBB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place:
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to remove Mr. Rufus Paul Harris as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board due to, but not limited to, the following reasons:
1. Breach of fiduciary responsibility by not retaining proper legal counsel to represent Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. in response to a Complaint filed by the SEC in the Georgia Northern District Court;
2. Failure to file timely responses to the SEC's Complaint in Georgia Northern District Court;
3. Failure to file the annual 10k in a timely manner, which resulted in a violation of the SEC Eligibility Rule for the OTC BB, thereby causing an 'E' to be affixed to the Company's ticker symbol.
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Pursuant to the provisions of the Delaware Business Corporation Act, as amended, the undersigned directors, being a majority of the shareholders of The Fronthaul Group, Inc./Conversion Solutions Holdings, Corp., a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), acting by written consent, hereby adopt the following corporation shareholder resolutions and hereby consent to the taking of the actions set forth therein.
WHEREAS, Randy Moseley has offered to return to the Company as its Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance, to assist Mr. Arlitt in the restructuring and management of the financial aspects of the Company.
RESOLVED, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's sole director in replacement of Rufus Paul Harris, the current director of record with the Delaware Secretary of State, and any other directors that might have been appointed and not reported to the Delaware Secretary of State.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that Randy Moseley become the Company's Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, and other management personnel appointed by Mr. Arlitt as sole director, be authorized to establish corporate bank relations and accounts for the Company.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be authorized to establish the corporate offices for the Company in a location that he deems appropriate, and to accumulate and secure all of the Company's financial records at the selected location.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company file an amended Annual 10-KSB and the September 30, 2006 Quarterly 10-QSB with the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as possible.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company terminate all existing employment agreements, and authorizes the new Board of Directors to negotiate employment agreements with new management as deemed necessary.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, as sole director, be authorized to cancel shares of common stock issued to the replaced board of directors and management as he deems equitable.
The execution of this Consent, which may be accomplished in counterparts, shall constitute a written waiver of any notice required by the Delaware Business Corporation Act or this corporation's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
Dated: November 27, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Information provided in this press release may contain statements relating to current expectations, estimates, forecasts and projections about future events that are "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally relate to the company's plans, objectives and expectations for future operations and are based upon management's current estimates and projections of future results or trends. Actual future results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Source: Market Wire (November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST)
Posted by portman on :
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
Eloquent, insightful, poignant, courageous, and lets not forget pointless. How do you manage to keep voicing your unsolicited, unwanted, and non-productive opinions in the face of so much adversity? The psyche of posters like yourself is a truly fascinating topic. Please shed some light on why you find so much pleasure in seeking negative attention this way.
I'm actually interested in finding an honest response to this question by the way.
-Spooky
Counterpoint to my response to Kevin...
Spooky?
Are you sure this is a post you're proud of?
Posted by glassman on :
LOL, you guys actually wasted time finding his rude and obnoxious posts just to show him he's wrong? what a waste of time... he'll never admit he's wrong...
News? the saga continues....
we have a new "Fearless Leader"?
Posted by Spooky on :
New PR out BTW.. posting....
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Kevin,
Why are you here?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: NEWS OUT.....
November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST
Conversion Solutions Announces New Management Team Appointed by Majority Shareholders Vote to Move the Company Forward Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (OTCBB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place:
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to remove Mr. Rufus Paul Harris as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board due to, but not limited to, the following reasons:
1. Breach of fiduciary responsibility by not retaining proper legal counsel to represent Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. in response to a Complaint filed by the SEC in the Georgia Northern District Court;
2. Failure to file timely responses to the SEC's Complaint in Georgia Northern District Court;
3. Failure to file the annual 10k in a timely manner, which resulted in a violation of the SEC Eligibility Rule for the OTC BB, thereby causing an 'E' to be affixed to the Company's ticker symbol.
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Pursuant to the provisions of the Delaware Business Corporation Act, as amended, the undersigned directors, being a majority of the shareholders of The Fronthaul Group, Inc./Conversion Solutions Holdings, Corp., a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), acting by written consent, hereby adopt the following corporation shareholder resolutions and hereby consent to the taking of the actions set forth therein.
WHEREAS, Randy Moseley has offered to return to the Company as its Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance, to assist Mr. Arlitt in the restructuring and management of the financial aspects of the Company.
RESOLVED, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's sole director in replacement of Rufus Paul Harris, the current director of record with the Delaware Secretary of State, and any other directors that might have been appointed and not reported to the Delaware Secretary of State.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that Randy Moseley become the Company's Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, and other management personnel appointed by Mr. Arlitt as sole director, be authorized to establish corporate bank relations and accounts for the Company.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be authorized to establish the corporate offices for the Company in a location that he deems appropriate, and to accumulate and secure all of the Company's financial records at the selected location.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company file an amended Annual 10-KSB and the September 30, 2006 Quarterly 10-QSB with the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as possible.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company terminate all existing employment agreements, and authorizes the new Board of Directors to negotiate employment agreements with new management as deemed necessary.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, as sole director, be authorized to cancel shares of common stock issued to the replaced board of directors and management as he deems equitable.
The execution of this Consent, which may be accomplished in counterparts, shall constitute a written waiver of any notice required by the Delaware Business Corporation Act or this corporation's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
Dated: November 27, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Information provided in this press release may contain statements relating to current expectations, estimates, forecasts and projections about future events that are "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally relate to the company's plans, objectives and expectations for future operations and are based upon management's current estimates and projections of future results or trends. Actual future results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Conversion Solutions Announces New Management Team Appointed by Majority Shareholders Vote to Move the Company Forward Monday November 27, 11:14 pm ET
KENNESAW, GA--(MARKET WIRE)--Nov 27, 2006 -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (Other OTC:CSHD.PK - News), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place:
ADVERTISEMENT On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to remove Mr. Rufus Paul Harris as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board due to, but not limited to, the following reasons:
1. Breach of fiduciary responsibility by not retaining proper legal counsel to represent Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. in response to a Complaint filed by the SEC in the Georgia Northern District Court;
2. Failure to file timely responses to the SEC's Complaint in Georgia Northern District Court;
3. Failure to file the annual 10k in a timely manner, which resulted in a violation of the SEC Eligibility Rule for the OTC BB, thereby causing an 'E' to be affixed to the Company's ticker symbol.
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Pursuant to the provisions of the Delaware Business Corporation Act, as amended, the undersigned directors, being a majority of the shareholders of The Fronthaul Group, Inc./Conversion Solutions Holdings, Corp., a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), acting by written consent, hereby adopt the following corporation shareholder resolutions and hereby consent to the taking of the actions set forth therein.
WHEREAS, Randy Moseley has offered to return to the Company as its Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance, to assist Mr. Arlitt in the restructuring and management of the financial aspects of the Company.
RESOLVED, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's sole director in replacement of Rufus Paul Harris, the current director of record with the Delaware Secretary of State, and any other directors that might have been appointed and not reported to the Delaware Secretary of State.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that Randy Moseley become the Company's Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, and other management personnel appointed by Mr. Arlitt as sole director, be authorized to establish corporate bank relations and accounts for the Company.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be authorized to establish the corporate offices for the Company in a location that he deems appropriate, and to accumulate and secure all of the Company's financial records at the selected location.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company file an amended Annual 10-KSB and the September 30, 2006 Quarterly 10-QSB with the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as possible.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company terminate all existing employment agreements, and authorizes the new Board of Directors to negotiate employment agreements with new management as deemed necessary.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, as sole director, be authorized to cancel shares of common stock issued to the replaced board of directors and management as he deems equitable.
The execution of this Consent, which may be accomplished in counterparts, shall constitute a written waiver of any notice required by the Delaware Business Corporation Act or this corporation's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
Dated: November 27, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Information provided in this press release may contain statements relating to current expectations, estimates, forecasts and projections about future events that are "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally relate to the company's plans, objectives and expectations for future operations and are based upon management's current estimates and projections of future results or trends. Actual future results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Contact:
Contact: Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hi Chart! from one "old" one to another!
"Hi ma!" Posted by St. Matthew on :
November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST
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Conversion Solutions Announces New Management Team Appointed by Majority Shareholders Vote to Move the Company Forward Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (OTCBB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place:
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to remove Mr. Rufus Paul Harris as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board due to, but not limited to, the following reasons:
1. Breach of fiduciary responsibility by not retaining proper legal counsel to represent Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. in response to a Complaint filed by the SEC in the Georgia Northern District Court;
2. Failure to file timely responses to the SEC's Complaint in Georgia Northern District Court;
3. Failure to file the annual 10k in a timely manner, which resulted in a violation of the SEC Eligibility Rule for the OTC BB, thereby causing an 'E' to be affixed to the Company's ticker symbol.
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Pursuant to the provisions of the Delaware Business Corporation Act, as amended, the undersigned directors, being a majority of the shareholders of The Fronthaul Group, Inc./Conversion Solutions Holdings, Corp., a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), acting by written consent, hereby adopt the following corporation shareholder resolutions and hereby consent to the taking of the actions set forth therein.
WHEREAS, Randy Moseley has offered to return to the Company as its Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance, to assist Mr. Arlitt in the restructuring and management of the financial aspects of the Company.
RESOLVED, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's sole director in replacement of Rufus Paul Harris, the current director of record with the Delaware Secretary of State, and any other directors that might have been appointed and not reported to the Delaware Secretary of State.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that Randy Moseley become the Company's Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, and other management personnel appointed by Mr. Arlitt as sole director, be authorized to establish corporate bank relations and accounts for the Company.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be authorized to establish the corporate offices for the Company in a location that he deems appropriate, and to accumulate and secure all of the Company's financial records at the selected location.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company file an amended Annual 10-KSB and the September 30, 2006 Quarterly 10-QSB with the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as possible.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company terminate all existing employment agreements, and authorizes the new Board of Directors to negotiate employment agreements with new management as deemed necessary.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, as sole director, be authorized to cancel shares of common stock issued to the replaced board of directors and management as he deems equitable.
The execution of this Consent, which may be accomplished in counterparts, shall constitute a written waiver of any notice required by the Delaware Business Corporation Act or this corporation's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
Dated: November 27, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Information provided in this press release may contain statements relating to current expectations, estimates, forecasts and projections about future events that are "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally relate to the company's plans, objectives and expectations for future operations and are based upon management's current estimates and projections of future results or trends. Actual future results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Rival Retains Arlitt Financial Corp Business Wire, Oct 29, 2003
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VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 29, 2003
Rival Technologies Inc. (OTCBB:RVTIF) announces that it has retained Arlitt Financial Corp. to act as communications and corporate finance liaison.
Arlitt Financial will be responsible for Rival's communications with the North American investment community and developing Rival's presentation and shareholder communication materials. Arlitt Financial has agreed to manage Rival's communications with underwriters, brokers, market makers and shareholders; as well as assist Rival with its corporate finance activities.
Arlitt Financial is a private company wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. Since 1990, Arlitt Financial has successfully assisted numerous public companies achieve their corporate and financial goals, due to its numerous business contacts throughout North America and Europe.
On behalf of the Board of Directors
William H. Morrison, President
Certain statements in this press release constitute "forward looking statements" within the meaning of the United States Securities Legislation. The Company's actual results could differ from those in the forward-looking statements. Do not construe this information as investment advice. This is not a solicitation to buy or sell securities. This does not purport to be a complete analysis of the Company Investing in securities is speculative and carries a high degree of risk. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Readers should consult their own independent advisers with any investment, including any contemplated investment. All information contained in this press release should be independently investigated. This press release contains forward-looking statements. These remarks involve risks and uncertainties. Risks are not limited to quarterly fluctuations in results or the companies' management of growth and competition. Other risks are detailed in the Company's SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from such information set forth herein.
COPYRIGHT 2003 Business Wire COPYRIGHT 2003 Gale Group
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Guys...don't look now, but I'm pretty sure that's Tut. I do know his first name was John....and I do know that he wanted to take over the company...and I do know that he lives on the west coast....and I do know that he lived in Canada.
Posted by sandor butosi on :
Rufus is gone?
Did mike Alexander have any thing to do with removing Rufus again?
Now how does chapter 2 start?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Portman? You are alive!!!!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
John Arlitt
Who the hell is he?
LOL now Rufus is out of trouble...and us shareholders are finished. Oh well...guess game is over. By the way I never got to vote, which shareholders did? Hm....
Posted by unclerudy on :
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT R.S.B.C. 1996, c. 418
AND
IN THE MATTER OF ARLITT FINANCIAL CORPORATION AND JOHN LOUIS ARLITT
Agreed Statement of Facts and Undertaking
The following agreement has been reached between Arlitt Financial Corporation (the “Issuer”), John Louis Arlitt (“Arlitt”) and the Executive Director:
1. As the basis for the order and undertakings referred to below, the Issuer and Arlitt acknowledge the following facts as correct:
(a) the Issuer is incorporated under the Company Act, R.S.B.C. 1996, c. 62 on July 15, 1998. John Louis Arlitt is the president of the Issuer;
(b) Arlitt utilizes the name of the Issuer on material that he disseminates;
(c) on December 8, 1998, Arlitt signed a public relations agreement, on behalf of the Issuer with Consolidated Interstat Ventures Inc. (“Interstat”), which is a reporting issuer in British Columbia;
(d) on March 17, 1998, Interstat sent a letter to the Issuer stating that the existing public relations agreement was discontinued;
(e) on February 1 and 10 , 1998 and March 1 and 10, 1998, the Issuer and Arlitt prepared and disseminated to persons in British Columbia and to others documents titled, “The Professional Trader” (the “Trader”), which related the affairs of Interstat;
(f) the Trader contained statements relating to Interstat that were made with the intention of effecting a trade in a security, which the Issuer and Arlitt knew or ought reasonably to have known were misrepresentations, contrary to section 50(1)(d) of the Securities Act, R.S.B.C. 1996, c. 418 (the “Act”);
(g) the Trader failed to disclose that it was issued on behalf of Interstat, contrary to section 52(2) of the Act.
(h) in February and March of 1998, neither the Issuer nor Arlitt were registered in any capacity under the Act; and
(i) in March 1998, on at least two separate occasions, Arlitt advised a person to purchase the securities of Interstat, contrary to section 34(1)(a) and(c) of the Act.
(j) Staff of the British Columbia Securities Commission (the “Commission”) acknowledges that the Issuer and Arlitt have co-operated fully in providing information with respect to this matter.
2. The Issuer and Arlitt undertake to:
(a) permanently refrain from distributing any copies of the February 1 and 10, 1998 and March 1 and 10, 1998 copies of the Trader;
(b) comply fully with the provisions of the Act, Securities Rules, all applicable securities regulations, all policies, guidelines, notices and rulings issued by the British Columbia Securities Commission (the “Commission”) from the date of this agreement; and
(c) pay the sum of $5,000.00 to the Commission.
3. The Issuer and Arlitt waive any right they have, under the Act or otherwise, to a hearing, hearing and review, judicial review or appeal related to, in connection with, or incidental to this agreement.
DATED at Vancouver, British Columbia, on August 4, 1998.
This is the second time Mr. Arlitt has worked with Diversified on its investor communications. Two years ago, Diversified hired him as an independent investor relations consultant; however, according to Stephen Davis, President & CEO of Diversified, the company wasn't quite ready for Mr. Arlitt at that time. "We frankly couldn't sustain the positive response he generated. Now, I believe the company is in a better position to support Mr. Arlitt's efforts given the kind of growth we expect to achieve in both sales revenue and on the investor relations side of the business."
Mr. Arlitt has been helping companies achieve their corporate and financial goals through his numerous business contacts and associations throughout North America and Europe. As well, he has served as a director for several public corporations. In his new position at Diversified, Mr. Arlitt will also assist the company in developing presentation materials, corporate mailing pieces, brochures, shareholder communication materials and any other collateral materials.
The Services Agreement with Mr. Arlitt will be on a quarterly basis beginning Febuary 1, 2005. The company will pay a monthly retainer fee of $5,000 plus GST and expenses related to the services, and will grant 100,000 incentive stock options priced at $0.61 per common share. The Agreement is subject to acceptance by the TSX Venture Exchange. As Diversified has decided to build investor relations capabilities within the company, its investor relations contract with Hedlin Lauder Associates Inc., which expired February 1, 2005, has not be renewed.
Diversified Industries specializes in the development and commercialization of innovative products and solutions that target a cross-section of industries. At present, the company has three technologies in various stages of research, development and commercialization. Its lead product, DVS 6000, an innovative hydrogen sulphide scavenger, is experiencing increasing sales to the oil and gas industry in western Canada, the U.S. and international markets. Diversified Industries is headquartered in Sidney, British Columbia, and has a product development and marketing facility in Edmonton, Alberta.
Statements made in this news release that relate to future plans, expectations, events or performances are forward-looking statements. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties and are based on current expectations. Consequently, actual results could differ materially from the expectations expressed in these forward-looking statements.
The TSX Venture Exchange does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release.
Diversified Industries Ltd. Stephen L. Davis President & CEO (250) 655-9209 info*dvsind.com www.dvsind.com OR Arlitt Financial Corporation John L. Arlitt Toll Free: 1 (877) 448-8181 or (604) 632-3880 afcorp*axionet.com
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Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: stocktrader? DD his name...he is in Canada...
lmao DD what? So people are speculating it is Tut. So lets say it is Tut, who cares...who says he knows anything about bonds etc...and why do we have this dufus Moseley back on board
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Guys...don't look now, but I'm pretty sure that's Tut. I do know his first name was John....and I do know that he wanted to take over the company...and I do know that he lives on the west coast.
Also that Tut was based out of Canada, and his businesses are in Vancouver, I would guess that St. Matt gets the Kewpie Doll on this one.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Guys...don't look now, but I'm pretty sure that's Tut. I do know his first name was John....and I do know that he wanted to take over the company...and I do know that he lives on the west coast.
Also that Tut was based out of Canada, and his businesses are in Vancouver, I would guess that St. Matt gets the Kewpie Doll on this one.
really?
why?
Posted by Chart walker on :
"appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Well about time! Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Hahhaha....if Tut is running this company now we can be sure this is a joke. He's going to come in and try to take over a company to try and save his massive investment groups....lmao!
Posted by Igor R on :
How is everyone so sure its TUT? Or anyone in the know boat care to fill the non know boaters in?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kevin Bailey Member
posted November 16, 2006 11:40 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by RushDaBus:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by bigstocks: Kev,wow thats a great pick. I trade that in a day. So whats your point? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He has no point, that's part of his charm. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've made several points. You simply seem to be too unintelligent to grasp them.
Serious Kevin...I'm done...but don't get so uptight....LOL
Did you even bother to consider the context of the quote you give? Or does it matter to you what was going on in the discussion?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Suite 500 475 Howe Street Vancouver,British Columbia Canada V6C 2B3 North America
*690 Underhill Drive Delta,British Columbia Canada North America Phone: (604) 632-3880 (primary)
Fax: (604) 632-3887 (primary)
Email Address: afcorp*axionet.com
Megastar Development Corp. John Arlitt Investor Relations (604) 632-3880 or 1-877-448-8181 Website: www.megastardevelopment.com
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: stocktrader? DD his name...he is in Canada...
LMAO!!! Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I think you all should see if Jack Welch will take over the company. I'm sure that with $7bil in bonds, he'd be more than happy to take some stock options in the $0.15-0.20 range as the only form of compensation. I mean, only a REAL company would have $7bil in bonds, right?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Kevin,
Why are you here?
Because I want to be.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by Chart walker on :
"How'd you get so Funky?" "Did you do the Monkey?"
-Steve Martin.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I think you all should see if Jack Welch will take over the company. I'm sure that with $7bil in bonds, he'd be more than happy to take some stock options in the $0.15-0.20 range as the only form of compensation. I mean, only a REAL company would have $7bil in bonds, right?
lol...thats what i dont understand.. if I was a top guy and was offered a position as CEO of a company with 7 billion in bonds I'd take it right away. Unfortunately...no big name stepped up, and i wonder why we trade at .15 lol
Posted by portman on :
Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
Posted by 10of13 on :
Can you stay and play now?
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Portman? You are alive!!!!
I live...I watch.
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
I did not mean that I could post vulgarities, or personal attacks, or whatever, I simply meant that I can't be forced from a thread simply because I won't get on my knees and worship at the altar of the stock being discussed.
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Well, actually...no, you won't...
OK...more accurate, if your take is you can trash the board...???
sorry...any member can post, obviously...but that's not to say that all posts remain posted.
To remain a member here? You do have guidelines and rules.
Am I saying you've crossed the line?
Not at all...from what I've seen, so far.
But then, I'm in n out...
For instance: I saw a post a while back that purported to be a fail-safe way to *make* MMs post a bid on a grey-market stock.
I challenged that, and subsequently the poster himself/herself asked that it be removed.
Yes! Post the truth as you know it--Yes! Post your DD!
But do *not* be beguiled into thinking you can post whatever suits your fancy...
make sense?
Hope so...
Tex
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
quote:Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Thank you for your opinion. I think it is safe to say that everyone has a completely clear understanding of it at this point.
If anyone asks about your opinion later I will be happy to point your posts out to them. I have so many to choose from after all.
Feel secure in the knowledge that you have no need to continue expressing that same opinion over and over again from this point on.
"I got your back man"
Posted by portman on :
For a little while.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Can you stay and play now?
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Portman? You are alive!!!!
I live...I watch.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Well about time!
you have info re "John Arlitt" ???
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I have been asking him to do this for weeks.
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Guys...don't look now, but I'm pretty sure that's Tut. I do know his first name was John....and I do know that he wanted to take over the company...and I do know that he lives on the west coast.
Also that Tut was based out of Canada, and his businesses are in Vancouver, I would guess that St. Matt gets the Kewpie Doll on this one.
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hi Chart! from one "old" one to another!
"Hi ma!"
News out and so are alot of us "old" longs!! I'm liking this, wheres jenna,bb,catia,dog ,oh wait ,its almost midnight! haha
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I did not mean that I could post vulgarities, or personal attacks, or whatever, I simply meant that I can't be forced from a thread simply because I won't get on my knees and worship at the altar of the stock being discussed.
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Well, actually...no, you won't...
OK...more accurate, if your take is you can trash the board...???
sorry...any member can post, obviously...but that's not to say that all posts remain posted.
To remain a member here? You do have guidelines and rules.
Am I saying you've crossed the line?
Not at all...from what I've seen, so far.
But then, I'm in n out...
For instance: I saw a post a while back that purported to be a fail-safe way to *make* MMs post a bid on a grey-market stock.
I challenged that, and subsequently the poster himself/herself asked that it be removed.
Yes! Post the truth as you know it--Yes! Post your DD!
But do *not* be beguiled into thinking you can post whatever suits your fancy...
make sense?
Hope so...
Tex
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. I know freedom of speech can be a b!tch, but that's life.
quote:Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Wasn't in, haven't been in, will never be in. I came back to these boards after the crash of CSHD(I think the stock was around .60 or so), poked around a bit, and decided to post my opinion in this thread.
Thank you for your opinion. I think it is safe to say that everyone has a completely clear understanding of it at this point.
If anyone asks about your opinion later I will be happy to point your posts out to them. I have so many to choose from after all.
Feel secure in the knowledge that you have no need to continue expressing that same opinion over and over again from this point on.
"I got your back man"
"I simply meant that I can't be forced from a thread simply because I won't get on my knees and worship at the altar of the stock being discussed."
OK...I'll buy that...
you really from funkytown?
Posted by Kevin Bailey on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
Anytime a man's resume says "Served as President and Director of numerous public companies", it probably means he's in the same class of "businessman" as Harris.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm sure that chart simply meant...that it was about time we move forward... and it is!
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Well about time!
you have info re "John Arlitt" ???
Posted by portman on :
Did I not post you some...and I have seen some important stuff already found here.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Well about time!
you have info re "John Arlitt" ???
Posted by Spooky on :
I guess some people will just have to read Tut's posts on HSM now Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Hi Chart! from one "old" one to another!
"Hi ma!"
News out and so are alot of us "old" longs!! I'm liking this, wheres jenna,bb,catia,dog ,oh wait ,its almost midnight! haha
They'll hear! Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
Anytime a man's resume says "Served as President and Director of numerous public companies", it probably means he's in the same class of "businessman" as Harris.
excellent point
Posted by Chart walker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
coughmerger, -coughMERGER!!!... Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
coughmerger, -coughMERGER!!!...
what gives you that impression
Posted by portman on :
Speculation...Pure unadulterated speculation...
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
Anytime a man's resume says "Served as President and Director of numerous public companies", it probably means he's in the same class of "businessman" as Harris.
Posted by 10of13 on :
DD his name would ya?
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
coughmerger, -coughMERGER!!!...
what gives you that impression
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Did I not post you some...and I have seen some important stuff already found here.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: "appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Well about time!
you have info re "John Arlitt" ???
not that I remember...
but, ya, I can read links.
lol, simply thought you might want to speed up the process...
I'll catch up... Posted by St. Matthew on :
Kevin,
Why are you here...really?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Kevin,
Why are you here?
Because I want to be.
Posted by 10of13 on :
he hasn't been posting since the gag order...and something says that he won't be now...
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: I guess some people will just have to read Tut's posts on HSM now
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: he hasn't been posting since the gag order...and something says that he won't be now...
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: I guess some people will just have to read Tut's posts on HSM now
gag order?
who issued a gag order?
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Kevin,
Why are you here...really?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Kevin,
Why are you here?
Because I want to be.
He must be one of those A-holes from Kramer's rule number 11.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tex? the people that were in on that teleconference call were not allowed to post any info... hence the reason so little poting on the thread...
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Here is John Arlitt's Resume
• Over 20 years of extensive experience in the financial industry as President/CEO of Arlitt Financial Corporation wholly owned by John L. Arlitt. • Assisted in financial consulting and financing of numerous public companies through my own company Arlitt Financial Corporation. • Served as President and Director of numerous public companies. • 1987 to 1990 served as Account Executive with both Georgia Pacific Securities and Jones Gable and Co. both full service brokerage firms in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. • Directors and Officers Certificate and Certificate for Strategic Management from Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, B.C.
- Per Dogman
coughmerger, -coughMERGER!!!...
That could be nice,lets not get ahead of ourselfs,but lets enjoy for now, do you think it could be tut, kind of sounds like it. if it is , that would so funny after so many people made fun of him, there I go getting ahead of myself.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex? the people that were in on that teleconference call were not allowed to post any info... hence the reason so little poting on the thread...
not allowed?
by what order? by whom?
Posted by TimW on :
What we need to merge with is reality.
Whats the stock ticker for reality?
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Tex,
They signed an electronic confidentiality agreement to not speak of the information that was discussed on the call.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex? the people that were in on that teleconference call were not allowed to post any info... hence the reason so little poting on the thread...
not allowed?
by what order? by whom?
Posted by 10of13 on :
by the company..during the call...on November 17th or sumthin..like that..i don't remember the date...
Posted by Vin on :
Hey all. Been forever since I've been on here. Just wanted to say hey and hope that everyone is doing well...
Take care.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I think it's HELL...one I try to avoid but always seem to have to play...
quote:Originally posted by TimW: What we need to merge with is reality.
Whats the stock ticker for reality?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey VIN! long time..Everything going well? Did you have a good Thanksgiving?
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Posted by Vin on :
No, sorry. Can you fill me in? (sorry, not being lazy, just haven't stopped since 4:30 this morning!)
How have you been?
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
quote:Originally posted by TimW: What we need to merge with is reality.
Whats the stock ticker for reality?
Whats the stock ticker for negitive thoughts? I know its been said over and over , but lets wait and see before the bashing begins. Let us have a little fun on this board for a change. imo
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: by the company..during the call...on November 17th or sumthin..like that..i don't remember the date...
oh... not "legal" then?
simply the company gagging itself, so to speak...
not surprising.
Thought you meant a judge had issued a gag order...
Obviously, an employee is at liberty to be a "whistleblower" ; a company can't issue a legal gag order....
*********
am starting to see interesting links re the "new guy."
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: No, sorry. Can you fill me in? (sorry, not being lazy, just haven't stopped since 4:30 this morning!)
How have you been?
November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST
Conversion Solutions Announces New Management Team Appointed by Majority Shareholders Vote to Move the Company Forward Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (OTCBB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation, announces the following current events have taken place:
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to remove Mr. Rufus Paul Harris as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board due to, but not limited to, the following reasons:
1. Breach of fiduciary responsibility by not retaining proper legal counsel to represent Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. in response to a Complaint filed by the SEC in the Georgia Northern District Court;
2. Failure to file timely responses to the SEC's Complaint in Georgia Northern District Court;
3. Failure to file the annual 10k in a timely manner, which resulted in a violation of the SEC Eligibility Rule for the OTC BB, thereby causing an 'E' to be affixed to the Company's ticker symbol.
On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Pursuant to the provisions of the Delaware Business Corporation Act, as amended, the undersigned directors, being a majority of the shareholders of The Fronthaul Group, Inc./Conversion Solutions Holdings, Corp., a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), acting by written consent, hereby adopt the following corporation shareholder resolutions and hereby consent to the taking of the actions set forth therein.
WHEREAS, Randy Moseley has offered to return to the Company as its Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance, to assist Mr. Arlitt in the restructuring and management of the financial aspects of the Company.
RESOLVED, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's sole director in replacement of Rufus Paul Harris, the current director of record with the Delaware Secretary of State, and any other directors that might have been appointed and not reported to the Delaware Secretary of State.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be appointed as the Company's Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that Randy Moseley become the Company's Interim Chief Financial Officer, pending D and O Insurance.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, and other management personnel appointed by Mr. Arlitt as sole director, be authorized to establish corporate bank relations and accounts for the Company.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt be authorized to establish the corporate offices for the Company in a location that he deems appropriate, and to accumulate and secure all of the Company's financial records at the selected location.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company file an amended Annual 10-KSB and the September 30, 2006 Quarterly 10-QSB with the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as possible.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that the Company terminate all existing employment agreements, and authorizes the new Board of Directors to negotiate employment agreements with new management as deemed necessary.
RESOLVED FURTHER, that John Arlitt, as sole director, be authorized to cancel shares of common stock issued to the replaced board of directors and management as he deems equitable.
The execution of this Consent, which may be accomplished in counterparts, shall constitute a written waiver of any notice required by the Delaware Business Corporation Act or this corporation's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
Dated: November 27, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Information provided in this press release may contain statements relating to current expectations, estimates, forecasts and projections about future events that are "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally relate to the company's plans, objectives and expectations for future operations and are based upon management's current estimates and projections of future results or trends. Actual future results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Source: Market Wire (November 27, 2006 - 11:15 PM EST)
Posted by TimW on :
You dont get positive responses from negative news.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Tex,
They signed an electronic confidentiality agreement to not speak of the information that was discussed on the call.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex? the people that were in on that teleconference call were not allowed to post any info... hence the reason so little poting on the thread...
not allowed?
by what order? by whom?
Again--Company folk? Insiders?
Highly doubt that's OK... ya know? Public company, and all...
All shareholders treated alike?
Am I missing sumpin' ?
Posted by portman on :
http:// infoventure.tsx.com/TSXVenture/TSXVentureHttpController?GetPage=PersonSummary&PO _ID=758173&HC_FLAG2=on
Posted by Vin on :
Wow, pretty interesting stuff. Looks like you can get some DD mileage out of this one! Glad to see Ruf out of there. Man, I believed him, and feel a bit of a fool for it now. Oh well. Already wrote this money off, but if this thing can come back, it would be nice walking around money. What are your thoughts on this? Sounds like we at least have a little direction.
Posted by frank021474 on :
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Just came back from the meeting of the "CHSD Basher's Committee." After further review, we all still feel like this stock is, was and always will be a PoS.
The meeting was broadcast over the internet:
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Hey Vin...nice to hear from you. Good night to check in.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Hey all. Been forever since I've been on here. Just wanted to say hey and hope that everyone is doing well...
Take care.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I think it's HELL...one I try to avoid but always seem to have to play...
quote:Originally posted by TimW: What we need to merge with is reality.
Whats the stock ticker for reality?
lol,
warm up the shower... Posted by Vin on :
Yea, Matt. I'm still licking my wounds from the Bears loss yesterday, so I needed a distraction...and poof, here it is! Posted by St. Matthew on :
This was my question when I first heard of it. I was told that once they signed the agreement, they could not buy or sell based on the info...still don't like it.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Tex,
They signed an electronic confidentiality agreement to not speak of the information that was discussed on the call.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex? the people that were in on that teleconference call were not allowed to post any info... hence the reason so little poting on the thread...
not allowed?
by what order? by whom?
Again--Company folk? Insiders?
Highly doubt that's OK... ya know? Public company, and all...
All shareholders treated alike?
Am I missing sumpin' ?
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK Tex...I'll get your back... Posted by St. Matthew on :
Dude...they almost pulled it off in Bean Town...not bad. Not sure my 'Boys' could have played them as close. Who knows what this Romo guy can / will do?!?! He seems pretty amazing so far.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, Matt. I'm still licking my wounds from the Bears loss yesterday, so I needed a distraction...and poof, here it is!
Posted by driver4t4 on :
can we start a new thread...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Is John Arlitt on the nobo list?
Posted by Vin on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Dude...they almost pulled it off in Bean Town...not bad. Not sure my 'Boys' could have played them as close. Who knows what this Romo guy can / will do?!?! He seems pretty amazing so far.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, Matt. I'm still licking my wounds from the Bears loss yesterday, so I needed a distraction...and poof, here it is!
You guys are on a roll. It was great to see Indy fall. Bears took two out of three tough games on the east side, so I should probably be happy with that. Did you see Seau's break yesterday? That HAD to hurt.
Sorry people...not trying to turn this into sports talk!
Posted by dinner42 on :
Call it Flippers vs. Bagholders, and give me the spread.
lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
Good idea Driver... You start it with "CSHD appoints new CEO" And then post the news...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
I wonder who really knows the Prince of Dubai?
Rufus Paul Harris or the guy who knows Arabic...the guy who happens to be our CEO right about now?!?!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by dinner42: Call it Flippers vs. Bagholders, and give me the spread.
lol
...and if you did both ... you're a folder.
lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
hey port...you still have the copy of the NOBO list?
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Is John Arlitt on the nobo list?
Posted by driver4t4 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Good idea Driver... You start it with "CSHD appoints new CEO" And then post the news...
I have never started one can someone else ??? Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Dude...they almost pulled it off in Bean Town...not bad. Not sure my 'Boys' could have played them as close. Who knows what this Romo guy can / will do?!?! He seems pretty amazing so far.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, Matt. I'm still licking my wounds from the Bears loss yesterday, so I needed a distraction...and poof, here it is!
OT:
da Boys getting A-romo-therapy... Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: hey port...you still have the copy of the NOBO list?
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Is John Arlitt on the nobo list?
Let me see if I have the list here at home...
Posted by St. Matthew on :
Yes, I did...damn, felt bad for him...gotta be honest...didn't know he was still in the league. He is a total class act.
We are on a roll and it's about freaking time...been 10 years. Troy Aikman loves this kid. If you get a chance, watch him...when he gets going, he does not miss.
Did you hear we fired vanderjackass today? We could be looking at da 'Bears' and da 'Boys' in the championship game this year. I know it's early...I think you guys will get there, but not sure about us yet. We'll see how we do in New York this week.
quote:Originally posted by Vin:
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Dude...they almost pulled it off in Bean Town...not bad. Not sure my 'Boys' could have played them as close. Who knows what this Romo guy can / will do?!?! He seems pretty amazing so far.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, Matt. I'm still licking my wounds from the Bears loss yesterday, so I needed a distraction...and poof, here it is!
You guys are on a roll. It was great to see Indy fall. Bears took two out of three tough games on the east side, so I should probably be happy with that. Did you see Seau's break yesterday? That HAD to hurt.
Sorry people...not trying to turn this into sports talk!
Posted by portman on :
Nope...no NOBO at home.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by driver4t4:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Good idea Driver... You start it with "CSHD appoints new CEO" And then post the news...
Thats one company he had a hand in thats still alive.
Posted by frank021474 on :
Wow- I step away from the computer for an evening of driving from North Carolina to DC and end up with txt messages saying check online......and whammy- got a new CEO LOL
Hmmmm- hopefully its not to late to pick up some more shares on the grey prices this week.
Posted by Vin on :
That would be a great match-up. The networks would love it because ratings would be huge for two teams like that. Not sure we'll make it, kinda depends on if Grossman can stop turning the darn ball over. TX has got to be getting excited.
Posted by dinner42 on :
Thanks frank. I drove from Salt Lake to the other coast and have been away and enjoyed the thread as well. Will probably do the same..plus plus..
lol
Posted by St. Matthew on :
No kidding...two of the best franchises in NFL history in the NFC championship. Hard to believe we have not met their before. Great TV drama.
Trust me, you guys will get a first round bye and play the wild card. The NFC is not that strong this year...You will get there. It's us I'm worried about. We have not won a playoff game in 10 years. That's the longest stretch since I have been alive...weird.
quote:Originally posted by Vin: That would be a great match-up. The networks would love it because ratings would be huge for two teams like that. Not sure we'll make it, kinda depends on if Grossman can stop turning the darn ball over. TX has got to be getting excited.
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This company cannot even organize a phone call but is suppose to invest billions for other companies and governments ??? 
