posted December 15, 2003 22:38            

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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
Uncle Milty,
I do not do technical analysis. I want to learn but have reservations. Do you do tech analysis? Do you find it beneficial? At all times or most of the time? I just dont see how the markets can be technically interpreted. The pyschology of the market is an art and I dont see how all factors can be computed to factually display an outcome. But, maybe i am wrong. Your opinion? I bought pghi ar .047 thinking it was gonna run up. I do have some faith because I averaged down and bought 50k more lasr fri at .031. Thanks for your response. It is just that I was so psyched for a run, had the expectation and it did not occur so I am skeptical.

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posted December 15, 2003 22:45            

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Originally posted by Joshua:
Sunny,

I believe markets are predictable; the problem is that markets represent complex systems that are not easy to predict.

The human mind is a very sophisticated prediction machine. For example, when a kid catches a ball, he is in fact predicting the path on a second by second basis.

Markets are predictable in a similar way using system dynamics, agent based systems, neural nets and other phynance (physics and finance) methodologies.

There are mathematical models that predict markets trends based on historical data series. It’s a fascinating physics area of study that has been developing during the last decade.

Computers capacity to process and solve complex equations has made the task easier, still not perfect.

Good luck.

J

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posted December 15, 2003 22:58            

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Are video games a threat or an opportunity for traditional team sports? The answer is both. If you have any doubt, just watch NBA TV.

When the league-sponsored satellite and cable network was looking for a new look, it turned to Electronic Arts, the clear leader in sports-based video games, to do the design.

"We're going after the same demographic, 18 to 34 year old males," explained Greg Lassen, senior director of interactive and electronic licensing for the National Basketball Association. "In the past video games wanted to look like TV. Now TV wants to look like video games."

The truth is sport leagues have generally become a slow or negative growth industry. Their executives look at explosive growth in sports-related video games and just drool. NPD Group reports that sports video game revenues were up 34 percent last year. And then there's the licensing fees game manufacturers pay the leagues ... fees that Lassen said has doubled for his sport in last five years.

Of course you've got to wonder if sports leagues are sleeping with the enemy embracing video games. Youth participation in sports is declining, as is overall viewership of sports on cable and television by the targeted group. Sports rights fees, the mother's milk of sports profits, could be the next to show decline.

The leagues that receive licensing fees from the video game manufacturers don't want to point the finger at those partners. They instead argue the games can spur participation and viewership in the games.

"I think they translate the desire from one medium (video games) to the games on Sunday," said Gene Goldberg, vice president of consumer products for the National Football League. "In the case of the younger kids, we look to (video) games to provide introduction to the action, the players and the stadiums."

Is it live or a video game? NBA TV turned to Electronic Arts to give its graphics a video game feel.
But those that depend on youth playing sports see the video games as a severe and direct threat.

"The overall electronic entertainment industry is a big competitor to the sports industry," said Mike May, spokesman for the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association. "If it's not video games, it's a DVD or television or the Internet. We're just filled with things that amuse us and consume lots of time."

And May argues that while both playing either a sports-related video game and or the real-life sport itself build interest in the sport, real-life participation is far more effective at creating a long-term fan.

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"The experience of playing a sport will live with someone their entire life," said May. "The video game is a fleeting moment that grabbing a rebound or diving for a ball or throwing a ball is not."

The bad news for the sports leagues is despite strong growth, the fastest growing video games are not the sports-theme titles -- those games are grabbing a smaller and smaller percentage of the overall video game pie. Sports video games fell to 19.5 percent of the video game market last year, according to NPD Group, down from 24.5 percent in 2000. Meanwhile action video games climbed to 25.1 percent of the market from 20.1 percent.

Even if you argue that football or basketball video games can spur interest in those sports, it's tough to see how the non-sport video games do anything but hurt.

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Erik Whiteford, director of EA's sports brands, attributes the fall in sports' title total share to the fact that the game platforms, like PlayStation2 or the X-Box, are relatively mature, and that the sports titles grab a bigger share off the bat when the new platforms come out.

"Madden NFL 2004 is slated to come in as the No. 1 title for the year or at least the top five," he said. "You can be a sports title and sell well."

But even with Madden's video game success, the league's royalties for the 7 million-plus licensed video games that sold in the 12 months ending in August pale in comparison to the $550 million ABC pays the league to have John Madden call the games on "Monday Night Football." The financial health of the league will depend much more on keeping broadcasters' ratings and rights fees up than video game's sales high.

posted December 15, 2003 23:38            

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Originally posted by zo:
OK guys we keep getting links to StockTA about how bullish this stock is...But here is something different that will open your eyes.....

Go to www.stockta.com...

Then click on overall in the bullish section...

Then click on the price twice...Which will put u to the lowest stock prices...And you'll see that this is the best bullish stock to own as well as it being cheap...

What this means is that this stock is bullish and will have great gains in he future since it is priced at a very low level..This stock will run and then maybe come down a bit, and then run up again, and then come doen a bit, and then go up again...Take a look at the QQQ charts...This PGHI will move like that...Hope you guys understand how important it is to hold and sell at the dollars...It's must closer then you guys think...DOn't get greedy, hold it and you will get rewarded!...Good luck all...zo...

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posted December 15, 2003 23:41            

Or how about something like the holodeck on Star Trek. Let's all play in Wharf's battle simulation program.

posted December 16, 2003 10:03            

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Originally posted by KC:
.028......if it hits .025 I'm going to try to pick up some more....looks like a good bounce point to me......no worries yet.

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posted December 16, 2003 10:15            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I remember the last consolidation period... MM were able to bring it down less than 1/10 of a penny .001 cents on average for more than a week because it was sooo bulllish... After the consolidation period ended in November at .015...(.03) it then surged more than 100% in two days... and then more than 200%(.048) in 10 days... This will happen again... very soon... I told you... December 23rd-January 15th will be an amazing time period to own pghi. Nothing has changed. mach

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posted December 16, 2003 10:18            

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Originally posted by tigerontop:
I have never been more excited to see a stock drop. Now I am just debating on pulling out of TTXI to grab more here at .025 if it makes it that far?

[This message has been edited by tigerontop (edited December 16, 2003).]

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posted December 16, 2003 10:19            

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Originally posted by tigerontop:
[B]I have never been more excited to see a stock drop. Now I am just debating on pulling out of TTXI to grab more here at .025 if it makes it that far?
[B]

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posted December 16, 2003 10:35            

I dind't know I was here to monitor the day to day swings of PGHI for your entertainment or gains. This thread was started specifically... by "me" to discuss PGHI with those I enjoy talking to... and that no longer includes you. Why don't you start your own thread to discuss PGHI. I'm sure the members will be delighted to discuss it's moves with you. After all your basis for buying and selling is "Buy at the top... and then complain and annoy our board members as it moves down." All you need to do... is start a new forum... Would you like me to post "instructions" for you... or do you have "reservations" for starting your own thread.

mach

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Mach,
If you do not like my posts then do not read them. But, I as any member can post what I think. The fact that I question and you put me down shows me how unaware you are. You may have a technical mind, but awareness is above being analytical or technical. I do think pghi may run-up but because I question the tech analysis doesnt mean I gave no faith in it. If you were a little smarter, you could comprehend that. FYI, I also have been educated and have an analytical mind, not necessarily tech analysis but am capable if I choose. You seem like an arrogant individual so from my perspective you need to get a grip. Are you so arrogant that you get offended if someone poses a question that you do not agree on? I only questioned the validity of tech analysis on the markets as a pure science because can the human mind be measured. Anyway, hope pghi has a good day and goes to the dollars but I have followed this thread and you have been wrong 3 times in your belief it would shoot up. It may go up eventually but dont jump on me because of your ignorance.

Thanks Joshua and old mullet for a civil response. I appreciate that.

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posted December 16, 2003 10:49            

take advantage of any situation... its down so BUY!! If techs were insignificant, you wouldnt find so many books on it and so many stock experts (Warren Buffet) recommending them! No one has a crystal ball... we will never know during what day of what hour PGHI will take off, techs give us an idea. Study and apply them - see where they will lead you!

I think we are all in PGHI and currently all in the red, but hang in there, it will go up.

posted December 16, 2003 10:54            

No one should be discouraged from posting their view points whether it is bullish or bearish. I stopped following the board for PGHI on Raging Bull because the members started personally attacking one another and lost sight of the purpose -- to discuss due dilligence on PGHI. Lets not let this forum become the same....

Look, I have been following this stock for a while now. I got in at the low .02's and have since purchased more at various points.

I am very bullish on the company. The main reason for this is because of the prospects for veegeez to become a major contender in the industry. Right now, PGHI's financials do not reflect the revenues from veegeez because PGHI's last quarterly financial statement was released prior to the acquisition.

This drop, in my opinion, is a consolidation. There has been no news that has changed the position of the company (except for the S8, which, to me was a good thing because it represented PGHI's desire to avoid debt -- the downfall of so many other internet companys -- even if the S8 added the potential for dilution).

When the new site is released, veegeez begins its advertising campaign, adds DVD's to its lineup, adds the trade in option (trade old games for new ones), and adds the buy-a-game feature, etc., etc., I think that PGHI will experience a significant run-up. Do I think it will hit $1.00 anytime soon? No. Do I think it can hit .10 or higher soon? absolutely. Therefore, I am using this dip as a great buying opportunity.

But this is just my opinion. I encourage everyone to do their own DD and reach their own conclusions and when they do, post them. Please do not be discouraged from voicing differences of opinion. We are all here because we want to make money and hate losing money.

posted December 16, 2003 10:58            

IMHO,nobody who owns this stock today, I repeat NOBODY will lose a single cent..You will have the opportunity to get out without a loss or with huge gains..

Good Luck

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I think we should all just get along....I am sure the fact that some of us, INCLUDING MYSELF, are losing money is making us a little grouchy. If/When this stock takes off to a new high then we'll all be friends again.

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posted December 16, 2003 10:59            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I think we should all just get along....I am sure the fact that some of us, INCLUDING MYSELF, are losing money is making us a little grouchy. If/When this stock takes off to a new high then we'll all be friends again.

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posted December 16, 2003 11:03            

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Originally posted by raven76:
Bet and Sunny,
I am in red as well...However, this doesn't bother me because it gives me the opportunity to buy more in lower prices..
We are in penny land here...Risks are huge..No offence here, however you are acting like you started to play pennies one week ago...It would be awesome that everone of us had a 100% gain in two days..However, mostly the things don't go this way..I am sure you did your own DD, and figure out that this is a very good investment or play..

IMHO,nobody who owns this stock today, I repeat NOBODY will lose a single cent..You will have the opportunity to get out without a loss or with huge gains..

Good Luck

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posted December 16, 2003 11:03            

GL

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Originally posted by JEB7006:
Can't we all just get along?

No one should be discouraged from posting their view points whether it is bullish or bearish. I stopped following the board for PGHI on Raging Bull because the members started personally attacking one another and lost sight of the purpose -- to discuss due dilligence on PGHI. Lets not let this forum become the same....

Look, I have been following this stock for a while now. I got in at the low .02's and have since purchased more at various points.

I am very bullish on the company. The main reason for this is because of the prospects for veegeez to become a major contender in the industry. Right now, PGHI's financials do not reflect the revenues from veegeez because PGHI's last quarterly financial statement was released prior to the acquisition.

This drop, in my opinion, is a consolidation. There has been no news that has changed the position of the company (except for the S8, which, to me was a good thing because it represented PGHI's desire to avoid debt -- the downfall of so many other internet companys -- even if the S8 added the potential for dilution).

When the new site is released, veegeez begins its advertising campaign, adds DVD's to its lineup, adds the trade in option (trade old games for new ones), and adds the buy-a-game feature, etc., etc., I think that PGHI will experience a significant run-up. Do I think it will hit $1.00 anytime soon? No. Do I think it can hit .10 or higher soon? absolutely. Therefore, I am using this dip as a great buying opportunity.

But this is just my opinion. I encourage everyone to do their own DD and reach their own conclusions and when they do, post them. Please do not be discouraged from voicing differences of opinion. We are all here because we want to make money and hate losing money.

EOM

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posted December 16, 2003 11:04            

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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
blah blah to you. I like this thread and just because yoy started it does not mean you own it. Did you realize how your posts indicate to me your insecurity? HAHA
I do not appreciate someone constantly saying pghi will run up and it has not. It may but it based on its validity not on your tech anlysis. Your tech analysis claimed a run up for last tues and so forth. And like I said, if you dont like my posts dont read them... I laugh at your posts now.......hahahahah

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posted December 16, 2003 11:08            

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Originally posted by drwright68:
I am laughing now, people were saying the exact same thing at .015...boo hoo, poor me, why isn't the stock going higher...lol...samething, higher consoidation price now...boo hoo!

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posted December 16, 2003 11:14            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
And as I said... it consoldiated for two weeks to .015 and was .03 two days later... boo hoo is right... mach

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posted December 16, 2003 12:02            

Everyone-

When shareowners stand firm and refuse to set Stop Limits low enough for MMs to shake the tree, the MMs have no choice but to allow trading to run based on Supply & Demand. All too often with penny stocks investors do not have enough confidence to stick when the PPS is walked down – especially when the MMs really get nasty, and tighten the screws to where the loss column can make people cringe.

It appears PGHI shareowners are convinced in the management of PGHI to turn company into a profitable enterprise, which speaks well of the actions taken by management up to this stage in a rather short span of time. I bought in October 20, this is less than 60 days later, and my original buy-in price was $0.0034 – PGHI is trading at $0.29 - $0.30 today which = 800% plus gain; moreover, PGHI seems to be able to hold the support as now firmly established around the $0.03 mark.

With all the positive factors that will begin to come into play before the end of January 2004, it appears PGHI has a very bright future.

posted December 16, 2003 12:21            

So as someone so nicely put, this IS a discussion board, however as part of discussion daily views and daily excitements are allowed to be put into the board. This does not mean it WILL HAPPEN 100% but it means that something is looking bullish for that particular day. It is all speculation as to which EXACT day before Jan. 1st that it will go big... but I don't think this day to day 'having fun and sharing the excitement' needs to be put down.

As far as getting on someones case...it's the good old saying that "even a squirrel will attack if you corner it". I respect Mach's opinion, and to me he is one of the leaders on these boards...discussion allowed, targetting one specific person and flaming (being the originator) is not very well looked upon.

ok that's my .02, hopefully some people get something out of it.

Either way, we all have one thing in common...we are following PGHI and we will follow it high boys and girls, HIGH!

posted December 16, 2003 12:36            

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I think some are forgetting that the talk of the "could this be the day" is pure talk going by some TA, we all know it is going to pop...but the when is the question. Is that not right?

So as someone so nicely put, this IS a discussion board, however as part of discussion daily views and daily excitements are allowed to be put into the board. This does not mean it WILL HAPPEN 100% but it means that something is looking bullish for that particular day. It is all speculation as to which EXACT day before Jan. 1st that it will go big... but I don't think this day to day 'having fun and sharing the excitement' needs to be put down.

As far as getting on someones case...it's the good old saying that "even a squirrel will attack if you corner it". I respect Mach's opinion, and to me he is one of the leaders on these boards...discussion allowed, targetting one specific person and flaming (being the originator) is not very well looked upon.

ok that's my .02, hopefully some people get something out of it.

Either way, we all have one thing in common...we are following PGHI and we will follow it high boys and girls, HIGH!

-Marc

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posted December 16, 2003 14:23            

I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YOUR OPINION SHOULD BE HEARD.I ALSO AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF A GREAT CHART ANAYSIS.NOT JUST STOCKS BUT EVERYTHING WORKS WITHIN A CERTAIN SYSTEM AND CYCLE EVEN YOU!IF YOU HAVE EVER STUDIED ABOUT MUSCLE MEMORY IT SHOWS THAT CONSTANT REPETITIONS WILL ALLOW THE PERSON TO AUTOMATICALLY REPEAT ACTIONS AT A CERTAIN LEVEL EACH AND EVERYTIME AS THAT IS WHAT THE MUSCLE MEMORY KNOWS.FAST TWITCH MUSCLES AND SLOW TWITCH MUSCLES ARE GROOMED FOR CERTAIN ACTIONS.STOCKS ARE THE SAME THEY HAVE CONSISTANT PATTERNS IN WHICH THEY REACT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS.WHAT I BELEIVE THE CHARTS LACK IS OUR LACK OF PATIENCE AND OUR DAILY EMOTIONS THAT IS WHERE YOU NEED YOUR GUT TO COME INTO PLAY.IF WE ALL INCLUDING MYSELF REALIZED THAT WHEN WE START DUMPING SHARES CAUSE WERE PISSED OFF THAT DAY AND THAT IS A DIRECT EFFECT OF LETTING THE MM'S DICTATE OUR EMOTIONS THE STOCK PRICES WOULD HOLD AND WE WOULD ALL BE REAL HAPPY.I CANNOT READ A CHART BUT I CAN TRACK DAILY PRICES MAKE COMPARISONS ON HIGHS AND LOWS AND MAKE SOUND JUDGEMENTS..BUT MOST OF THE TIME I TRSTMYGUT CAUSE ULTIMATELY MOST PEOPLE DO.I WILL HOWEVER TELL YOU THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FINE MINDS THAT GIVE ANAYLITICAL INPUT SO THANK YOU MACH & OTHERS!!!HAVE A SUNNY DAY MAKE SOME DOLLARS OUT OF PENNIES!GO GAMES N FLIX!

posted December 16, 2003 14:27            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Volume exceptionally light today. Weak hands out at the open with MM shake. Great... picked up more shares at .028. Also last time volume was this light was on November 21st. A few days later priced surged 100%. Down days on light volume is bullish... don't be fooled. For "techies"... Williams%R and Stochs indicating we are becoming oversold at these levels... MACD histogram is low and will likely begin to trend up very soon. December 23rd-January 15th target dates for biggest gains. Accumulate now. Do your own DD. mach

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posted December 16, 2003 14:56            

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Originally posted by raven76:
OK,
I have a question as well..JF said that S-8 shares don't cause the dilution, and these shares are given for services such as consultants..What happens if these people decide to sell their shares?
I don't think there is a time restriction for these shares as there is for employees..
Let's discuss..

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posted December 16, 2003 15:04            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
These shares are given out instead of cash, usually only in the 10's or 100's of thousands. The people that recieve the shares have a vested interest in the company and are trying to make it grow. They wouldnt accept the shares if they didnt see a nice return on their investment. If they do decide to sell, the amount they would dump wouldnt be significant enough to move the price IMO

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