posted December 12, 2003 15:46            

Shwabb @ .03..
let's see what's gonna happen..

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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
yep..and i put in order in for 50k.. 6k got filled. I am thinking we could ride it up also...lol

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posted December 12, 2003 16:20            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Doesn't look like anything is going to happen. I am going to take a nap. Be back later

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posted December 12, 2003 16:25            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
What a great nap. WOW...its Friday and we still closed in the green. Thank God.
You know, without any outside influence, everything follows a pattern. It will be interesting to see what pattern this stock will follow with out any outside pr. Will it keep declining back to where it started or will it react like it did on Monday 10/27 and Tuesday 10/28. Or will it keep trading sideways. What ever happens, this stock sure has the attention of a lot of people.
I am hoping for a big gain, so I can get my principal the heck out of this stock.

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posted December 13, 2003 14:37            

We should email TechTv- particularly the X-Play division and tell them about the site, and that they should do a show on it. If they get enough emails they will look into it. Also emailing CNBC, and any other news or gaming media provider would be good. All it would take is one segment about the site and it will create a wave of buzz. Here is an email I sent to TechTv:

I have an idea for a segment on your X-Play show.

There is a website called http://www.veegeez.com that may be good to do a story on. The company works pretty much like netflix, where you pay a monthly fee, and get to rent games for as long or as short as you like. You just send the game back when you're done, and they send you the next game on your wait list. I know a lot of gamers that use this service, and it is growing very fast! I would love to see this featured on your show, to let the whole gaming community know about this wonderful service! Thanks!

posted December 13, 2003 15:04            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
List of similar companies:
http://www.video-game-rental-easy-comparison.com/?source=overture

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posted December 13, 2003 15:09            

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Originally posted by kcbudman:
Sometimes the drunk thoughts are the best thoughts!!!! Hey, when VeeGeeZ starts renting movies, we need to let them know, or let them know even sooner (coming soon!!) type thing... they have a contact address.

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posted December 13, 2003 16:30            

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Originally posted by zo:
I actually am going to be gone for the rest of day...But if someone is up to it...A good time spent can be to find out how those others companies like the VOJO or GAMEFLY are doing in their stock rpcies from when they got into the business to now...I couldn't fins their synbols at a quick glance, but maybe a more dteailed search can find it...Good luck and hope someone takes time to tdo this...Thanks...zo...

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posted December 13, 2003 16:37            

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Originally posted by coumars:
I searched every where , I am unable to find stock symbol for GameFly. It looks like they are good competitors, Is this GamFly will affect our PGHI

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posted December 13, 2003 16:53            

see the comaprison link http://www.video-game-rental-easy-comparison.com/?source=overture

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
If the new website is anything like the one that was floating around then we will be in good shape. It looks a lot better then any of the ones that are out there. Including the cuurent veegeez website.

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posted December 13, 2003 18:34            

What I do think we can do is let people know about veegeez. I emailed epinions.com and asked them to permit veegeez.com to be reviewed (you can review netflix). Likewise, I think that we should use video game websites to get the word out and get some good press that way.

If 500 investors in PGHI get just one person to sign up for veegeez each, we have added over $100,000 in revenue to the company per year(500 X $20.00 X 12 months).... I am sure that Mr. Fleming and the rest of the crew are doing a lot to advertise, it can't hurt for us to do our part if we truly believe in the company (as I definitely do).

posted December 13, 2003 18:57            

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Originally posted by trader01:
I havent been trading penny stocks that long... i was way into nasdaq stocks before the bubble bursted in 2000. I know we all dream here that one day this stock will hit a buck, setting aside all our enthusiasm and hype, lets think in reality - how possible is it for PGHI to be trading above a dollar by summer or winter of next year? I really never search for stocks that i think will grow while doing DD, because i look for a quick 50% and leave. However I feel PGHI has the POTENTIAL, but can it really trade above a dollar?

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posted December 13, 2003 19:32            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
A couple of quick things. First, the money issue…..A couple of bucks difference in their price from their competitors is more of a long term issue. Next, as far as this stock getting to a dollar…..I know that if this stock gets to .10 a share I will be looking at taking out my principal. Of course this depends on what’s its doing at the time. This along with LBTT are two companies that I will be keeping a few bucks in because of their potential.

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posted December 13, 2003 19:38            

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Originally posted by trader01:
I havent been trading penny stocks that long... i was way into nasdaq stocks before the bubble bursted in 2000. I know we all dream here that one day this stock will hit a buck, setting aside all our enthusiasm and hype, lets think in reality - how possible is it for PGHI to be trading above a dollar by summer or winter of next year? I really never search for stocks that i think will grow while doing DD, because i look for a quick 50% and leave. However I feel PGHI has the POTENTIAL, but can it really trade above a dollar?

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posted December 13, 2003 19:41            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Bet'n...

O.K. If you are to become a true long... I can elaborate. This baby is poised for a big move. imho... it has several things going for it that are a super plus.

One includes the business model: Similar to NetFlix... and it actually appears to be better... Given that NetFlix is trading above $50 now... it's not unrealistic to think that we can in fact be trading in the $Dollars range within the next year.

Second: The fact that we have been trading up on no news at all is an indication of what will happen when there is actually positive news released... to the moon!

Third: I love the fact that we are talking .com here. .com's have taken off once again in the past year or so. If you want to look at a good trading pattern for a .com that recently moved from subpenny to .30 in less than 3 months... look at zkid... They have a sloppy site... but there stock exploded... There are many other examples... but keep in mind NetFlix... which surged from $4 to $60.... How many people made millions trading this stock.

4th: Industry: I posted an article written in Fortune this past weekend... It's on this thread and it talks... about where the big money will be generated soon... the "new thing" video games... My point... we are in the right market....

5th: On that note: The corporate name will be changed to gameznflix.com... That name itself has this ring... this catch... to it that says... I'm going to be hot!!!!!!

6th: The overall market is hot and pulling up anything and everything with it... especially the bb stocks.

6th: The techs support an enormous move forthcoming.... I predict a that we will see .30 within the next 8 weeks on a very explosive move... This will not be overnight... and yes there will be many ups and downs... and head fakes... and people wondering what to do... but if you hold strong ... you will be greatly rewarded...

There are too many times in the past few years that I could have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on stock picks... and simply missed that opportunity. And I will not miss this one.... This is one of the biggest opportunities you may ever see in your life... and when we make our hundreds of thousands... we will celebrate somewhere in the world... and I have a feeling that it's not too far away.

So when you buy... hold strong and don't let anyone shake your shares and you will be greatly rewarded. I usually recommend stocks as a short term buy with 50-100% potential... but if you note my original post here... the very first post... I predicted a potential 10000% gain from .02 where I entered which is $2.00. We may find someday... that that was an understatement.

I will stand behind this stock on the up days... and more so... on the down days... stay strong. Patience will pay.

Excuse my grammar,

mach

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posted December 13, 2003 21:19            

Can't wait to see the new website for "GamezNFlix".

Gamefly (a competitior) has a website almost identical to NetFlix. Researched management for both and they appear to be unrelated.

The future is so bright. I also emailed my ideas for products, advertising, etc., to VeeGeez/Mr. Fleming.

posted December 13, 2003 22:51            

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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
After looking at all of the competitors it appears that NetFlix and VeeGeez are the only traded companies.

Can't wait to see the new website for "GamezNFlix".

Gamefly (a competitior) has a website almost identical to NetFlix. Researched management for both and they appear to be unrelated.

The future is so bright. I also emailed my ideas for products, advertising, etc., to VeeGeez/Mr. Fleming.

Should be interesting to see the KY warehouse location through KC. Big props to KC for that trip!

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posted December 14, 2003 13:28            

"Initially, there's little doubt that it's a boost for the market," said Milton Ezrati, senior economic strategist at fund manager Lord Abbett & Co. "A major uncertainty has been removed, and it also gives hope that this situation, on a fundamental basis, will improve.

"In the end, the market is going to look at the financial situation, and that will depend on the United States' ability to transfer power and withdraw and relieve the financial strain of this whole exercise."

John Davidson, president of PartnerRe Asset Management, believes Saddam's capture probably will give the blue-chip Dow Jones industrial average(^DJI - news) a reason to rally above last week's climb over the psychologically sensitive 10,000 mark.

But he questioned how long this lift may last.

"We might see a pop," Davidson told Reuters. "Stocks are pretty fully valued, so whether this results in a sustainable rally from here is in question.

"It might put a temporary pause on the rise of the euro," he said, noting that capture of the former Iraqi leader should lower the risk of attacks against the United States, which had been weighing heavily on the dollar.

"There is a risk premium in there for terrorism against the U.S. and this takes a little of that out," Davidson said.

Earlier, in London, Hilary Cook of Barclays Stockbrokers predicted Saddam's capture will help equities, especially in the U.S. and UK markets.

"It's broadly positive for equity markets," said Cook, director of investment strategy at Barclays Stockbrokers.

"U.S. and UK markets could have the most to gain because war is expensive," Cook said, referring to investor concerns that occupying American and British forces might get bogged down by a worsening security situation in Iraq (news - web sites) after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled this spring.

TEMPERING HOPE WITH CAUTION

Spirits also should be lifted by the Dow holding onto its five-figure finish at Friday's close and the prospect of closing out the market's first winning year since 1999.

But some may think it's time to sell as valuations peak.

"I would love to see some consolidation in the market," said Sandy Lincoln of Wayne Hummer Asset Management in Chicago, who manages about $1.2 billion of assets for wealthy individuals and institutions. "It's a perverse wish -- but some of these valuations, particularly on the tech side, seem hard to fathom."

Stocks like the world's biggest chip maker Intel Corp. (Nasdaq:INTC - news) and Internet high-flyers Yahoo Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO - news) and eBay Inc. (Nasdaq:EBAY - news) have led the market higher over the past nine months or so. But some investors worry that stock-price growth is getting ahead of profit growth, like in the ill-fated tech bubble of 2000.

This week could be the crunch time to decide whether to sell before the end of the tax year, or hang on in the hope of more gains.

"Valuing the market, based on historical reported earnings, makes it look very expensive," said Gordon Fowler, chief investment officer of Glenmede Trust Co. in his weekly outlook. "Valuing it, based on projected operating earnings, makes it look reasonably priced.

"The truth lies somewhere in between."

More huge gains may not follow like the first time the Dow broke 10,000. Back in late March 1999, when the Dow first held above 10,000, the index took barely two months to add another 1,000 points and top 11,000.

This time around, investors are a bit more cautious after weathering more than three years of a bear market.

Few seem to expect the Dow to run up to 11,000 again any time soon. But there's no sign investors are ready to bail out of stocks, either.

"There's a lot of momentum in this market," Lincoln said. "Clients have been wanting to get on this bandwagon, and really reluctant to get off it."

Last week, the Dow climbed above the 10,000 mark and the Standard & Poor's 500 hit an 18-month high, thanks to broadly good economic signs and the U.S. Federal Reserve (news - web sites) commenting that inflation is not a problem, suggesting that it won't raise rates for some time to come.

For the week, the Dow Jones industrial average rose 1.82 percent to 10,042.16, its highest closing level since May 24, 2002. The broader Standard & Poor's 500 Index (^SPX - news) gained 1.19 percent for the week, to 1,074.14, its highest close since May 28, 2002.

The technology-focused Nasdaq Composite Index (^IXIC - news) finished the week up 0.57 percent at 1,949, below the 2,000 level it broke through briefly the previous week.

For the year, the Dow is now up 20 percent, the S&P 500 is up 22 percent, and the Nasdaq is up 46 percent.

This week, investors will focus on Tuesday's Consumer Price Index (news - web sites), due at 8:30 a.m. (1330 GMT), for the latest read on inflation. Economists expect a very modest 0.1 percent rise for November, according to a Reuters poll.

posted December 14, 2003 13:39            

Today 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
283,385 115,206 178,352 364,601

Reach per million users:

Today 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
6.5 13 6.55 323%

Reach rank:

posted December 14, 2003 13:57            

1. You never have to leave home -- you make all your selections using the internet.
2. You pay a monthly flat fee -- how much you pay depends on how many games you want to have checked out at any given time.
3. There are never any late charges -- this is how your local game rental store makes a lot of money, at your expense.

With most online Video Game Rental Clubs you go to their Web site and create a list (or queue) of the titles that you want. You then rank your games on your list in the order you'd like to receive them. Based on availability and your ranking the games on your list will be shipped to you via first class mail. Generally the selection and availability is very good at more well known game rental companies.


Is it a better deal than my local video game rental store? back to top? Odds are yes, especially if you're like most people and end up paying late fees. If you rent 3 games per month at $6 dollars each you end up paying $18 dollars a month (this doesn't even include late fees), whereas with an online DVD Club you can easily rent 3 games in a month with the 2 Game Plan that costs between $15 - $20 dollars, and never pay any late fees! Plus you can keep your games until you are finished with them!

posted December 14, 2003 16:26            

Do you think it would be difficult to repurchase my shares again during a new consolidation? I understand the MM's own 57% of the shares??? I want the LT gold but are you folks doing any daytrading with PGHI?

posted December 14, 2003 17:31            

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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
I'm thinking that maybe @ .10 or .09 I will sell. This will be a 300% gain on $5k. Hopefully the PPS will drop a bit again for consolidation for a new run up.

Do you think it would be difficult to repurchase my shares again during a new consolidation? I understand the MM's own 57% of the shares??? I want the LT gold but are you folks doing any daytrading with PGHI?

Thanks for your opinions.

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posted December 14, 2003 18:31            

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Originally posted by montreal_diamonds:
I got in at 4 cents for 100K and would love to see this puppy go to 9 or 10 cents ..
This is a great stock to double your money on.
As for long turn .. two thumbs down .. no one in the future will be renting anything anyway .. all TV's with direct cable have Movies on Demand .. and pretty soon Video games as well ... so basically all your movies and video games will be billed to your cable bill and all the rental companies will be obsoleteed ... are we there yet nope!! That's why I think this will come up a bit!!

cheers

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posted December 14, 2003 18:32            

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Originally posted by tommy:
montreal_diamonds, cable movies work well because of the streaming nature of it. Videogames are different, data is not accessed the same way it is accessed in movies. Furthermore the competitive nature of the different consoles will keep the videogame industry alive. PGHI is going to see $1 before a year from now, mark my words! Good luck to TRUE longs.

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posted December 14, 2003 19:11            

As for selling at .10- no f-ing way

posted December 14, 2003 19:24              

All of statement below is based on my own personal feelings regarding the recent news of Saddam Hussein's capture and this events possible effect on the U.S. stock market this week.
One way to see how U.S. stocks may react to the capture of Saddam Hussein is to remember how U.S. markets reacted to the confirmed killing of Saddam's sons. The killing of these two gave us a glimpse of what we could possibly expect to see once Saddam were also either killed or captured . Tuesday, July 22, 2003, it was reported that Hussein's sons were killed in a raid. The U.S. stock markets remained basically unchanged while critics questioned if it were true. On July 24th, 2003 the government released pictures of their bodies, but the market was down a little (about 0.7 percent), and did not react quickly. On July 25th, 2003 it was reported that Saddam's bodyguards were captured. U.S. markets felt like we were very close to nabbing Saddam and they shot up 1.7 %. It is reasonable to expect that U.S. markets would go up by as much as two or three percent to the news of the death or capture of Saddam. This kind of a rally could possibly continue for 1 - 3 days and then even out, leaving many stocks at a new level, and others falling back to near previous levels It is very likely that U.S. markets will see a two or three percent rally for 1 - 2 days starting on Dec. 15th, 2003. Many stocks that have been on the verge of breakout could see good movement. Everyone should be ready to take advantage of morning gap ups on their held investments. A good many stocks that have been flirting with moving up to the next level could do just that. Investors should be on thier toes this week because it could get very interesting. Just Throwin' A Bone. IMO.

posted December 14, 2003 20:13            

Japan stocks rose more than two percent while Australia climbed 0.7 percent.

"It would appear on the face of it that the capture of Saddam Hussein would make things a lot easier for the U.S. in terms of establishing civilian rule and playing the end game, i.e., targeting an eventual exit from Iraq," said Westpac currency strategist Johnathan Bayley in New Zealand.

"This should be supportive of the dollar and already in our session, we've seen the dollar strengthen."

Having risen as high as around 108.35 yen, the dollar was traded at 108.13/18 yen at 6:26 p.m. EST Sunday, up from 107.80/90 yen in late New York on Friday.

The dollar was also up against the safe-haven Swiss franc at 1.2791/99 franc, up from 1.2621/29.

The European single currency was at $1.2148/54 versus $1.2277/83.

Stocks rose on Sunday in Israel and in Saudi Arabia after news of Saddam's capture.

posted December 14, 2003 21:23            

Likely Market Reaction to End of Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden
Note: This article was written on August 14th, 2003, but Saddam was captured on December 13th, 2003

There's no doubt that Americans are a bit disappointed that both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein have escaped the clutches of the U.S. military force. If either of these leaders were captured or killed, how would the U.S. stock market react?

From a practical standpoint, their deaths or captures shouldn't have much to do with the U.S. stock market or the economy since these men no longer have control of their lands and their forces have nearly been destroyed. However, consumer and investor confidence and morale can play a big part in the movement of the stock market.

With the confirmed killing of Saddam Hussein's sons, Odai and Qusai, we received a taste of what the market might do. On Tuesday, July 22nd, it was reported that Hussein's sons were killed in a raid. The market remained mostly flat while critics questioned if this was the truth or another set of incorrect information about the war. On the 24th, the government released pictures of the two and X-rays of Odai's leg, but the market was down a bit (about 0.7 percent). On the 25th, it was reported that the Saddam's bodyguards were captured. It felt like we were getting close to nabbing Saddam and the market shot up 1.7 percent. Since then, with a lack of news about getting closer to Saddam or bin Laden, the market has been down about 2 percent.

Obviously the stock market depends on a variety of factors, but it is safe to say that the market does react to certain kinds of news. I don’t have a crystal ball, but if I had to make a prediction, here's my educated guess:

I would expect the news of the death or capture of Osama or Saddam to spur a one to three day rally and then settle down. Over a longer period of time, I believe it would have a measurable positive effect on the market, but other factors could counteract it. Considering we are heading into an election year, chances are President Bush will do everything he can to keep the economy sound, so the negative factors would have to be strong to keep the market down if this were to happen.

So, I do believe the death or capture of Saddam or Osama would make a positive impact in a market begging for good news. However, one question remains: can we find them?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dardadog:
[B]I started a thread with this but with all the attention here I wanted everyone to think about this...

All of statement below is based on my own personal feelings regarding the recent news of Saddam Hussein's capture and this events possible effect on the U.S. stock market this week.
One way to see how U.S. stocks may react to the capture of Saddam Hussein is to remember how U.S. markets reacted to the confirmed killing of Saddam's sons. The killing of these two gave us a glimpse of what we could possibly expect to see once Saddam were also either killed or captured . Tuesday, July 22, 2003, it was reported that Hussein's sons were killed in a raid. The U.S. stock markets remained basically unchanged while critics questioned if it were true. On July 24th, 2003 the government released pictures of their bodies, but the market was down a little (about 0.7 percent), and did not react quickly. On July 25th, 2003 it was reported that Saddam's bodyguards were captured. U.S. markets felt like we were very close to nabbing Saddam and they shot up 1.7 %. It is reasonable to expect that U.S. markets would go up by as much as two or three percent to the news of the death or capture of Saddam. This kind of a rally could possibly continue for 1 - 3 days and then even out, leaving many stocks at a new level, and others falling back to near previous levels It is very likely that U.S. markets will see a two or three percent rally for 1 - 2 days starting on Dec. 15th, 2003. Many stocks that have been on the verge of breakout could see good movement. Everyone should be ready to take advantage of morning gap ups on their held investments. A good many stocks that have been flirting with moving up to the next level could do just that. Investors should be on thier toes this week because it could get very interesting. Just Throwin' A Bone.