posted December 11, 2003 20:58            

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Originally posted by drwright68:
I hoe you find this info. useful. this is a clarification of the s-8 from John Fleming, and it is ok, per him, to be posted!

By: kerouact
11 Dec 2003, 08:32 PM EST Msg. 17891 of 17895
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
I saw this on "another" board, don't think it was posted here yet...this should calm may people's fears

comes by way of John saying it can be posted, via the "VeeGeez" poster:

The S-8 is registration IT DOES NOTHING TO THE OUTSTANDING TOTAL.

It simply provides management with a way to pay for services at market price value vs. spending cash.

i.e. Attorney wants $10,000 for services At $.03 we could give him 333,333 S-8 Shares or a combination of cash and stock.

NONE OF THE S-8 SHARES HAVE BEEN SPENT ONLY RESERVED FOR USE

YOU CAN POST THIS E_MAIL

John Fleming

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posted December 11, 2003 21:28            

OT: I was looking at GoDaddy.com, and found that www.stocktechs.com was available

So I bought it.

My first domain purchase http://www.oscarcichlid.com never got off the ground :-(

In the future I would like to develop stocktechs.com into a site with stock picks based on, you guessed it, technicals.

If technicians here would like to contribute to the site, and you know who you are, I would be happy to get your input.

I still have one week of finals left- so I'll be developing it mid dec to jan.
(and maybe an OTC IPO~~pipedreams)

Let me know what you think

posted December 11, 2003 22:21            

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Originally posted by tommy:
Here are the steps leading to the name change:

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posted December 11, 2003 22:24            

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Originally posted by drwright68:
I hoe you find this info. useful. this is a clarification of the s-8 from John Fleming, and it is ok, per him, to be posted!

By: kerouact
11 Dec 2003, 08:32 PM EST Msg. 17891 of 17895
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
I saw this on "another" board, don't think it was posted here yet...this should calm may people's fears

comes by way of John saying it can be posted, via the "VeeGeez" poster:

The S-8 is registration IT DOES NOTHING TO THE OUTSTANDING TOTAL.

It simply provides management with a way to pay for services at market price value vs. spending cash.

i.e. Attorney wants $10,000 for services At $.03 we could give him 333,333 S-8 Shares or a combination of cash and stock.

NONE OF THE S-8 SHARES HAVE BEEN SPENT ONLY RESERVED FOR USE

YOU CAN POST THIS E_MAIL

John Fleming

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posted December 12, 2003 02:10            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
HOT PGHI SEC FILING TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAY MOVE BIG IN THE MORNING!!!!!!!!!

U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

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INFORMATION STATEMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 14(c)
OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
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Check the appropriate box:

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permitted by Rule 14(a)-6(e)(2))
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(Name of the Registrant as Specified in its Charter)

Payment of Filing Fee (Check the appropriate box):

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[ ] Fee Computed on table below per Exchange Act Rules 14a-6(i)(1) and 0-11.
1. Title of each class of securities to which transaction applies:

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posted December 12, 2003 08:39            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Can some one tell this Newbie what this SEC filling means and why the stock could take off becasue of it.
Thanx

[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 12, 2003).]

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posted December 12, 2003 09:14            

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Originally posted by raven76:
They are accumulating now..The signal for me
will be that Schwab raises the bid(.029-.03), and Wien the ask to .04..(not that they are strong players in the game)They are following the leaders (bamm & nite)and sometimes helping them..

GL

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posted December 12, 2003 09:14            

12 December 2003, 08:53am ET

NOTE TO EDITORS: The Following Is an Investment Opinion Being Issued by Peter Antipatis of Capital Research Group Inc.

Watch Consolidated Resources Group Inc. (OTC: CSRZ). CSRZ just announced big news! The Company has been executing on its growth strategy, and it could be a huge gainer in near-term trading! Other stock market standouts include:

Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI): Market Perform, even on 7 million shares,

ADC Telecommunications (NASDAQ: ADCT): Market Perform, up 3% on 24 million shares,

Intel Corporation (NASDAQ: INTC): Market Underperform, up 2% on 55 million shares,

posted December 12, 2003 09:17            

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Originally posted by raven76:
Schwab @ the bid .03 and wien @ the ask .039 )Not bad huh
let's enjoy the day..
Good Luck

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posted December 12, 2003 09:24            

GL

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Raven... who wrote that message... was it you regarding the accumulation and buy signal... I've watched Bamm and Nite accumulate... but this inside scoop on MM tactics is good info. mach

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posted December 12, 2003 09:26            

Let's see..

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Originally posted by raven76:
Yeah man,
I wrote it when Schwab was @.023 and wien @.035..
They did the same thing last week..I am keeping an eye on them

GL

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posted December 12, 2003 09:53            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I love this board, and this thread in particular- so much DD, and very little pump- I just hope we can keep it this way.

OT: I was looking at GoDaddy.com, and found that www.stocktechs.com was available

So I bought it.

My first domain purchase http://www.oscarcichlid.com never got off the ground :-(

In the future I would like to develop stocktechs.com into a site with stock picks based on, you guessed it, technicals.

If technicians here would like to contribute to the site, and you know who you are, I would be happy to get your input.

I still have one week of finals left- so I'll be developing it mid dec to jan.
(and maybe an OTC IPO~~pipedreams)

Let me know what you think

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posted December 12, 2003 10:11            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Is the market open... Yes... it's Friday... very slow again... The entire market is trading flat today including the dow/naz & s&p ... what nobody trades on Fridays anymore? mach

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posted December 12, 2003 10:36            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
HOUSTON! WE'VE GOT A SITUATION HERE!

It seems like we are in a stalemate.

(Stalemate - a situation in which neither side can prevail in a conflict, no matter how hard they try. Often parties must reach a stalemate before they are willing to negotiate an end to their conflict.)

Im willing to negotiate! Sell me your shares! And then I'll sell them back to you a few months or years from now! mach

There are likely people lined up to buy in the .02's and nobody willng to sell for less than .03. Some people here may own more shares than the total volume traded today. The future's so bright. mach

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posted December 12, 2003 10:40            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
HOUSTON! WE'VE GOT A SITUATION HERE!

It seems like we are in a stalemate... (is that how you spell it)... There are likely people line up to buy in the .02's and nobody willng to sell for less than .03. Some people here may own more shares than the total volume traded today. The future's so bright. Don't sell those shares... Or I will buy them up! mach

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posted December 12, 2003 12:30            

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Originally posted by old mullet:
sell fnix??? you must have an awesome portfolio to consider selling fnix at these prices! i have about 20 others i would sell first.

uncle milty

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posted December 12, 2003 12:31            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Doesn't look like anything is going to happen. I am going to take a nap. Be back later

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posted December 12, 2003 12:33            

you are right about long-term..I need some cash to add more pghi for the next week..
I am not diversified as you are..
I currently hold
PGHI
ICOA(expecting a pop-up soon-trading)
CYTP ( This is the last one I would sell)
MSGL ( free shares never would sell)
AACS ( another long-term, never sell at this level, thinking about adding for trading purposes)
MASG ( trading-bought yesterday, can't sell because of 3-day waiting issue)
1/3 of my portfolio is long,I use the rest for trading short term.

and FNIX( traded twice successfully, failed in the third attempt..That's fine, I can handle this..
This is a slow mover compared to the other ones..I don't mind getting in back @lower .60's as well, if I think I might benefit of....Expecting 50% profit with PGHI..I might be wrong..But, there was a choice that I had to make, and I made it..
That's part of the game..

Good Luck

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Originally posted by old mullet:
sell fnix??? you must have an awesome portfolio to consider selling fnix at these prices! i have about 20 others i would sell first.

uncle milty

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posted December 12, 2003 13:05            

maybe you will hit the timing on this. i took some profit on trph this week to "water" the new garden. i was buying trph in may at .25 and have been selling free shares for quite some time. today at $6.60. i am hoping to see fnix do the same, but don't think it will be anywhere that quick until they make nasdaq. who knows what we can expect from pghi. there is a tremendous market out there for a well run company. so far i have filled all but one of my pghi trades today and they account for 20% of todays vol. so i'm with your bullishness. i just think i would sell the benz before i sold fnix. in fact if it gets near .50 i'm buying more.

posted December 12, 2003 14:35            

put your bid in at .0301 or .0302 and i'll bet you'll fill. worked for me all day.

posted December 12, 2003 14:55            

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Originally posted by old mullet:
v lad

put your bid in at .0301 or .0302 and i'll bet you'll fill. worked for me all day.

uncle milty

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posted December 12, 2003 14:55            

I had thought that NITE was the key player to watch?

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Originally posted by raven76:
Yeah man,
I wrote it when Schwab was @.023 and wien @.035..
They did the same thing last week..I am keeping an eye on them

GL

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posted December 12, 2003 14:56            

For what it's worth... I've also had orders in at .03... It's taken almost two hours for me to get a fill. I actually placed to order... went out... ate lunch came back... and finally after half an hour... more.. got a fill... mach

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Originally posted by V_LAD:
For what it's worth... I've been attempting to add to my position at .03 hoping to split the current bid/ask of .029/.031 and have not been able to get filled for the past hour. This is sort of like watching your mother-in-law drive over a cliff with your brand new corvette. Its good but it's not good.

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posted December 12, 2003 14:58            

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Raven, I'm missing something here....what is the relationship between Schwab and Wien? What signal should I be looking for. Sorry if I missed an earlier post....I'll do a search and see if I can find it.

I had thought that NITE was the key player to watch?

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posted December 12, 2003 15:09            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
MM has only dropped bid to .03 a few times today... and "chomp, chomp!" mach

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I was busy all day until about 2:00. Just getting caught up on the thread now. Slow day overall?

Just looked at the 10 day chart with Ameritrade. Its looking very sweet at the moment. All indicators turning up (MACD, SMA (4,9,17), Slow Stoch are what I have stored to look at). Good days ahead soon if the chart keeps progressing!

Edit to add: I think that "chomp, chomp" sound was Mach and Milty having the MM's for lunch....LOL!

posted December 12, 2003 15:11            

Either Shwabb or wien sits on the ask,(maybe selling short) and keep selling..When weak hands sell , either bamm or nite are collecting all the shares..
Just before the rally starts Schwab suddenly increases it's bid covers it's short..For example,
today scwabb sold the shares @ .031 and some @ .03..It's bid is .027 NOW..
BAMM AND NITE the highest bid, which creates little bit confidence..Then they decrease their bids, let's say to .027(imaginary)
That creates panic, at the mean time Schwabb raises it's bid e'g to .029 or .03..Covers all the shares he sold short during the panic..After panic ends bamm and nite increasing the bid and the run starts..
That's PURE speculation..

Basically, Schwab and wien are helping to bamm and nite to accumulate more shares by keeping the ask low..

GL

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Raven, I'm missing something here....what is the relationship between Schwab and Wien? What signal should I be looking for. Sorry if I missed an earlier post....I'll do a search and see if I can find it.

I had thought that NITE was the key player to watch?

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posted December 12, 2003 15:17            

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Originally posted by raven76:
PSU,
Bamm and NITE are the biggest, yes the main players..I saw that last week during the drop from .048 to .029... Wien and Schwab don't participate in the bid during the sell-off's or bad days let's say..

Either Shwabb or wien sits on the ask,(maybe selling short) and keep selling..When weak hands sell , either bamm or nite are collecting all the shares..
Just before the rally starts Schwab suddenly increases it's bid covers it's short..For example,
today scwabb sold the shares @ .031 and some @ .03..It's bid is .027 NOW..
BAMM AND NITE the highest bid, which creates little bit confidence..Then they decrease their bids, let's say to .027(imaginary)
That creates panic, at the mean time Schwabb raises it's bid e'g to .029 or .03..Covers all the shares he sold short during the panic..After panic ends bamm and nite increasing the bid and the run starts..
That's PURE speculation..

Basically, Schwab and wien are helping to bamm and nite to accumulate more shares by keeping the ask low..

GL

[This message has been edited by raven76 (edited December 12, 2003).]

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posted December 12, 2003 15:20            

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Originally posted by trader01:
Im looking to pick up some more shares, however for short term plays... so are there any opinions about this dropping below 0.029 in the coming trading days?

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posted December 12, 2003 15:23            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well trader... Im trying to think logically and out loud... I picked up shares yesterday at .028... Only MM were filled at .027... Which was after two strong days of panic selling with respect to an s8... that imho wasn't negative... (in fact positive) but I'll take this opportunity to accumulate shares.... As for today... notice that you have a higher low... of .029... which imho means at least for the short term... the selling is drying up... by looking at the chart.... i believe a considerable upside correction is coming very soon... that's why im picking them up today.... Bollinger Bands are getting very tight... very tight... mach

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posted December 12, 2003 15:29            

mach

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Originally posted by trader01:
thanks mach... thing is i am HEAVILY invested in this company and averaged at 0.03667, and i've noticed this past week that it was very easy to make quick money through intraday trading. so i am thinking of buying at these levels and selling when it hits 0.036, then if it goes back down i have another oppurtunity to buy and ride it back up to 0.036. My initial investment which averages upto 0.03667, i will keep for long term. Anyways i will see how much i can pick up at 0.03

thanks again

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posted December 12, 2003 15:32            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Averaging down is good with a very strong stock... Keep in mind we are and have been trading in the Upper Half of the Bollinger Band for a few months now... and that is bullish in itself... I do not believe we will trade in the lower half until we break out and trade at .10 cents or so... which will likely be within the next 3-4 weeks.

mach

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posted December 12, 2003 15:39            

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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
Why do orders get partially filled? Is that a game of some sorts?

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posted December 12, 2003 15:43            

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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
I am going to average down and pray for a run next week or so. If mach is right that this will go to .10 in 3 -4 weeks, I can wait and will be monetarily happy. I put an order in for ..0302 and it didnt get filled for 15 minutes so i changed it to .031 and so far partially filled.

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