posted December 08, 2003 21:43            

I'm new to trading, and DD. Just been on this for the last 9 months. Made a Killing with IVOC, DNAP and others. I'm in on this thanks to Mach and Mav.
I was following the comparison of PGHI and NEtFLIX. I found at the footer of NetFlix Site that they have a Patent fot their Renting system.(PAT: 6,584,450)

Went to US Pat web site
(http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6584450.WKU.&OS=PN/6584450&RS=PN/6584450)

and found this.

Method and apparatus for renting items

Abstract
According to a computer-implemented approach for renting items to customers, customers specify what items to rent using item selection criteria separate from deciding when to receive the specified items. According to the approach, customers provide item selection criteria to a provider provides the items indicated by the item selection criteria to customer over a delivery channel. The provider may be either centralized or distributed depending upon the requirements of a particular application. A "Max Out" approach allows up to a specified number of items to be rented simultaneously to customers. A "Max Turns" approach allows up to a specified number of item exchanges to occur during a specified period of time. The "Max Out" and "Max Turns" approaches may be used together or separately with a variety of subscription methodologies.

May be there is someone on this board, that can help me with this. Can this Patent bring any problem to the new site PGHI is releasing ? Please don't take me wrong. I'm neither a basher nor a pumper. I'm trying to learn here.

Thanks and GLTA

posted December 08, 2003 21:44            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I saw this the other day. +$90 seems pretty far out there today... but you never know... Every stock needs a start and we've all seen the explosive potential of many of the stocks of today... PGHI or.... GAMEZNFLIX could be the stock of tommorrow... and we're in on the ground floor! mach

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posted December 08, 2003 21:52            

mach

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Originally posted by Joshua:
Hi Guys,

I'm new to trading, and DD. Just been on this for the last 9 months. Made a Killing with IVOC, DNAP and others. I'm in on this thanks to Mach and Mav.
I was following the comparison of PGHI and NEtFLIX. I found at the footer of NetFlix Site that they have a Patent fot their Renting system.(PAT: 6,584,450)

Went to US Pat web site
(http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6584450.WKU.&OS=PN/6584450&RS=PN/6584450)

and found this.

Method and apparatus for renting items

Abstract
According to a computer-implemented approach for renting items to customers, customers specify what items to rent using item selection criteria separate from deciding when to receive the specified items. According to the approach, customers provide item selection criteria to a provider provides the items indicated by the item selection criteria to customer over a delivery channel. The provider may be either centralized or distributed depending upon the requirements of a particular application. A "Max Out" approach allows up to a specified number of items to be rented simultaneously to customers. A "Max Turns" approach allows up to a specified number of item exchanges to occur during a specified period of time. The "Max Out" and "Max Turns" approaches may be used together or separately with a variety of subscription methodologies.

May be there is someone on this board, that can help me with this. Can this Patent bring any problem to the new site PGHI is releasing ? Please don't take me wrong. I'm neither a basher nor a pumper. I'm trying to learn here.

Thanks and GLTA

J

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posted December 08, 2003 22:01            

I'm still learing my TA. Does PGHI technicals look similar to Netflix, a year ago ? Have you checked that ? I'm thinking of adding more shares tomorrow but should take some loss on other stocks.

Thanks for your help, and for sharing your knowledge with us.

J

posted December 08, 2003 22:02            

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Originally posted by Joshua:
Hi Guys,

I'm new to trading, and DD. Just been on this for the last 9 months. Made a Killing with IVOC, DNAP and others. I'm in on this thanks to Mach and Mav.
I was following the comparison of PGHI and NEtFLIX. I found at the footer of NetFlix Site that they have a Patent fot their Renting system.(PAT: 6,584,450)

Went to US Pat web site
(http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6584450.WKU.&OS=PN/6584450&RS=PN/6584450)

and found this.

Method and apparatus for renting items

Abstract
According to a computer-implemented approach for renting items to customers, customers specify what items to rent using item selection criteria separate from deciding when to receive the specified items. According to the approach, customers provide item selection criteria to a provider provides the items indicated by the item selection criteria to customer over a delivery channel. The provider may be either centralized or distributed depending upon the requirements of a particular application. A "Max Out" approach allows up to a specified number of items to be rented simultaneously to customers. A "Max Turns" approach allows up to a specified number of item exchanges to occur during a specified period of time. The "Max Out" and "Max Turns" approaches may be used together or separately with a variety of subscription methodologies.

May be there is someone on this board, that can help me with this. Can this Patent bring any problem to the new site PGHI is releasing ? Please don't take me wrong. I'm neither a basher nor a pumper. I'm trying to learn here.

Thanks and GLTA

J

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posted December 08, 2003 22:04            

Once I do that, then (in my vision of the future), I'll have freed up cash to start playing new picks. I'm a little bummed not to be in NEOM right now. It had nice news today and had been on my radar. I sold my HYTT for profit today (maybe early), but wanted to add to PGHI before the PR tomorrow. Also, been watching FNIX trickle downwards into another buying range. Would love to catch that at the right time too.

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Originally posted by Mav:
Hey Mach, I AM working on some new picks trying to take my mind away from PGHI for at least a few minutes.

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posted December 08, 2003 22:05            

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Originally posted by Joshua:
Thanks match. Your right. These guys must be on top of these details. I've been very involved during the .com bubble in site development and we always checked this type of issues. In the short term as you said, there should be no problem.

I'm still learing my TA. Does PGHI technicals look similar to Netflix, a year ago ? Have you checked that ? I'm thinking of adding more shares tomorrow but should take some loss on other stocks.

Thanks for your help, and for sharing your knowledge with us.

J

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posted December 08, 2003 22:20            

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Here is a one year chart for Netflix. All I can say is WOW! They rode the upper bollie almost the whole time.
daclyyay[dd][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=NFLX,uu[m,a]dac lyyay[dd][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G

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posted December 08, 2003 22:30            

J

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Here is a one year chart for Netflix. All I can say is WOW! They rode the upper bollie almost the whole time.
daclyyay[dd][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=NFLX,uu[m,a]dac lyyay[dd][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G

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posted December 08, 2003 22:43            

What has happened so far:

PGHI acquires VeeGeez
PGHI increases VeeGeez inventory
PGHI hire Roy Vella to redesign website
PGHI hires Venture Direct to do marketing plan
PGHI files to begin process of changing name to GamezNFlix

What is coming that we know of:

PPM (private placement) to raise capital for expansion

Opening of new website

Change of name to GamezNFlix (and symbol change)

Apparently a new east coast distribution center in Franklin, KY. Yet to be formally confirmed, but likely that will come tomorrow!

Am I forgetting anything?

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Originally posted by Joshua:
Thanks PSU! We'll follow the same pattern!! and ride for the next year.

J

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posted December 08, 2003 23:06            

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Originally posted by PSU90:
I could handle that...LOL! Seriously...PGHI is developmental and has some big hurdles ahead. They will need money to make it work. But the framework is there.

What has happened so far:

PGHI acquires VeeGeez
PGHI increases VeeGeez inventory
PGHI hire Roy Vella to redesign website
PGHI hires Venture Direct to do marketing plan
PGHI files to begin process of changing name to GamezNFlix

What is coming that we know of:

PPM (private placement) to raise capital for expansion

Opening of new website

Change of name to GamezNFlix (and symbol change)

Apparently a new east coast distribution center in Franklin, KY. Yet to be formally confirmed, but likely that will come tomorrow!

Am I forgetting anything?

[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited December 08, 2003).]

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posted December 08, 2003 23:29            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
PSU.. Where did you find this, is there a link

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posted December 08, 2003 23:30            

97 people on the website now!
4110 visitors today
28508 pages today

posted December 08, 2003 23:39            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
79.90% of games in stock
right now!
38.92% of new releases in
stock right now!
51 people on the website now!
4570 visitors today
30227 pages today

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posted December 09, 2003 07:21            

Point Group Holdings Announces Move to Franklin, Kentucky
Tuesday December 9, 6:30 am ET

SAN DIEGO, CA--(MARKET WIRE)--Dec 9, 2003 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) announced today that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky, during the last weeks of December.
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This relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's subsidiary's VeeGeeZ.com new distribution center which will located in the Franklin area. The distribution center will be the second center for VeeGeeZ; the original distribution center will remain open in California. Franklin, Kentucky, is located approximately 30 minutes North of Nashville, Tennessee, which will allow corporate business as well as the distribution center to have access to a major metropolitan center.

CEO/President John Fleming stated, "The move at this time helps keep us right on our targets for 2004. By choosing Franklin we have all the advantages of a major city without the cost of being located in a large city." He continued, "I will personally be overseeing this most critical step in expanding the distribution of Video Games by VeeGeeZ.com. The entire management team of VeeGeeZ and PGHI are very excited about being able to provide a more efficient delivery service to our Eastern Seaboard subscribers."

VeeGeeZ.com makes available the latest video games, as well as the older classics, for Xbox, PlayStation2 and Gamecube to the approximately 18 million owners of these machines on a monthly subscription basis for a flat monthly fee. The subscribers establish an account, build a queue/list of games they want, VeeGeeZ ships the game(s) by US Mail, and the customer enjoys the games as long as they like. When they finish with the game, they simply return it in the provided mailer to the company and the next game in the queue is mailed.

Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company, which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.

Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

For more information contact or visit our websites:

Point Group Holdings, Incorporated -- www.pghi.biz

VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- www.veegeez.com

Equitilink, LLC -- www.equitilinkpr.com

posted December 09, 2003 07:53            

Point Group Holdings Announces Move to Franklin, Kentucky
SAN DIEGO, CA, Dec. 09, 2003 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Point Group Holdings,
Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI <N?IM=quotes&symbol=PGHI&type=Quote> ) announced today that its corporate headquarters is
relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky, during the last
weeks of December.

This relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's subsidiary's
VeeGeeZ.com new distribution center which will located in the Franklin area. The
distribution center will be the second center for VeeGeeZ; the original
distribution center will remain open in California. Franklin, Kentucky, is
located approximately 30 minutes North of Nashville, Tennessee, which will allow
corporate business as well as the distribution center to have access to a major
metropolitan center.

CEO/President John Fleming stated, "The move at this time helps keep us right on
our targets for 2004. By choosing Franklin we have all the advantages of a major
city without the cost of being located in a large city." He continued, "I will
personally be overseeing this most critical step in expanding the distribution
of Video Games by VeeGeeZ.com. The entire management team of VeeGeeZ and PGHI
are very excited about being able to provide a more efficient delivery service
to our Eastern Seaboard subscribers."

VeeGeeZ.com makes available the latest video games, as well as the older
classics, for Xbox, PlayStation2 and Gamecube to the approximately 18 million
owners of these machines on a monthly subscription basis for a flat monthly fee.
The subscribers establish an account, build a queue/list of games they want,
VeeGeeZ ships the game(s) by US Mail, and the customer enjoys the games as long
as they like. When they finish with the game, they simply return it in the
provided mailer to the company and the next game in the queue is mailed.

Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company, which, through its
subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating
history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries.
The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing
executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing
capital investment.

Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information
within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6
under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor
created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included
in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential
future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that
involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements
will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ
materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications
that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically
significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward
looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not
limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other
filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov <http://www.sec.gov> ) The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise
any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future
events, or otherwise.

For more information contact or visit our websites:

Point Group Holdings, Incorporated -- www.pghi.biz <http://www.pghi.biz>

VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- www.veegeez.com <http://www.veegeez.com>

Equitilink, LLC -- www.equitilinkpr.com <http://www.equitilinkpr.com>

Equitilink, LLC

Ronald Garner

(Investor Relations)

877-788-1940

ron@equitilinkpr.com

posted December 09, 2003 08:03            

Weston, FLA., Dec 09, 2003 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News
Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are: Proxity Digital Networks, Inc. (OTC:
PDNW), Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI), Brocade Communications (NASDAQ:
BRCD), Calpine Corporation (NYSE: CPN) and Xilinx Inc. (NASDAQ: XLNX)
Aggressive investors need to watch Proxity Digital Networks, Inc. (OTC: PDNW)
this morning! Yesterday as the markets were closing, the company issued a press
release announcing that its wholly-owned subsidiary, On Alert Systems, Inc., has
expanded its exclusive license with Traptec, Inc. to include the World Wide
Eyes, LLC camera detection systems! This could be welcomed news to investors!

According to the press release, the On Alert-Traptec team has met with
government representatives regarding Traptec's development of an Advanced Helmet
Design ("AHD") sensor which, when developed, should provide our soldiers with
the means to retaliate against sniper attacks. Traptec's system will utilize
proven technology already tested with the Chula Vista, California Police
department by using ultrasonic detection sensors employed in their
Taggertrap(TM) system.

Traptec and On Alert plan to integrate other sensors, including audio, infrared,
motion sensors, and others, which will be designed to pinpoint the exact
location of an enemy's discharged weapon for immediate targeting. In addition to
the GPS coordinates of the attacker, Traptec is working on the production of a
remotely controlled system for in-field automated return fire from machine guns
and other weapons. This system would combine surveillance technologies marketed
by the On Alert-Traptec team under a global distributorship provided by World
Wide Eyes, LLC.

Investors should keep their eyes on this little company! "George Lerg, President
& CEO of Traptec stated that the team's goal was to make any "back shooter"
realize that when he pulls the trigger on his weapon, he will be killing
himself. It is time to make the enemy realize he can no longer rely upon stealth
to protect him from immediate and deadly retaliation."

"The expansion of the existing license agreement with the Worldwide Eyes System
gives the On Alert-Traptec team a system that, when completed, empowers our
armed forces with a clear advantage over any opposition." Said Proxity CEO Billy
Robinson. Watch this company! Yesterday the stock closed at two cents a share.

Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday were: Point Group Holdings Inc
(OTCBB: PGHI) up 10.8% on 11.1 million shares traded, Brocade Communications Sy
(NASDAQ: BRCD) down .35% on 6.7 million shares traded, Calpine Corporation
(NYSE: CPN) up .91% on 7.7 million shares traded and Xilinx Inc. (NASDAQ: XLNX)
up 2.2% on 5.8 million shares traded.

posted December 09, 2003 08:43            

Chrissy its nice to see another female posting on the stock boards, I have read your posts on RB, Keep up the good work.

Its Great to see that PR Buzz we were hearing wasn't just a Rumor, I like the fact that this guy said he was going to do something and did it. He's already earning my trust for that one.

posted December 09, 2003 08:48            

pghi is going under the matress. this one has a good chance of being a nasdaq stock by this time next year.

great job on this one guys. for allot of the people making ouyt on this stock, you don't know how lucky you are to have guys like mach, mav, psu and others doing the dd and bringing this and other winners to your attention. i've been doing this for years and can tell you that it is difficult to find brokers that you would pay high commissions to that have the savy of the team of sharp minds here give you for free. don't forget to be generous with your praise and thanks.

i am glad to be on the same page with these guys and am also glad that the bickering and non productive posts seem to be history.

this is how it is supposed to work!!!!!

posted December 09, 2003 09:01            

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Originally posted by old mullet:
what a day to have my computers down!!! i'm stealing a little time from the non profit corporation's computer before the day starts. spent most of the day on the phone with toshiba tech support yesterday. i have a day in town with my accountant, and i'm coming back with a back up for my backup computer. i can't afford to be down like this.

pghi is going under the matress. this one has a good chance of being a nasdaq stock by this time next year.

great job on this one guys. for allot of the people making ouyt on this stock, you don't know how lucky you are to have guys like mach, mav, psu and others doing the dd and bringing this and other winners to your attention. i've been doing this for years and can tell you that it is difficult to find brokers that you would pay high commissions to that have the savy of the team of sharp minds here give you for free. don't forget to be generous with your praise and thanks.

i am glad to be on the same page with these guys and am also glad that the bickering and non productive posts seem to be history.

this is how it is supposed to work!!!!!

uncle milty

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posted December 09, 2003 09:23            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well guys... If we break .05 today! Watch out for a big move! We shall see... but I think there's a very good chance! mach

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posted December 09, 2003 09:39            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow! .049!!!!!!!!!!! mach

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posted December 09, 2003 09:42            

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Originally posted by raven76:
NITE @ .051!!!

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posted December 09, 2003 09:44            

Good luck

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Damn, I finally got in at .049 Chased it all the way up. Thats it for me guys. I am all tapped out. Officialy out of money, but loaded up on PGHI

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posted December 09, 2003 09:51            

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Don't let the pullback on bid scare you. This is the trading range where a lot of people just doubled their money. I bet a lot of GTC's will trigger.

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