posted December 09, 2003 10:13            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Agreed... but with the volume... i think it will explode and those whom had gtc's may chase it up... Let's break .05 today! mach

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posted December 09, 2003 10:14            

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Originally posted by Mav:
Hello Guys, I am having problems again with my Internet connection, I just could get on line, I am going to be on and off today, this connection problem continues. Again, looking good.

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posted December 09, 2003 10:15            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Volume is still pushing up dramatically! 4.5 million traded in 40 minutes! Incredible! mach

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posted December 09, 2003 10:27            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Volume is still pushing up dramatically! 4.5 million traded in 40 minutes! Incredible! mach

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Over 5.5 million now. We tested resistance early and have retraced. This was the second trip near .05 in the past five days. That is a big mental barrier. I think the third time we break through....will it be today yet?. The profit takers are in charge right now.

posted December 09, 2003 10:36            

Since I dunno second level, could u explain me what is advantage of that. I am totaly new.
Thanks- coumars

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
MM lining up with a huge floor at .045 in case you do not have Level II. mach

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posted December 09, 2003 10:39            

And now PGHI is trading strong, once news comes out for this one it is through the roof!

So far its a Merry Christmas for me because of LBTT, now PGHI needs to make it a Happy New Year! lol

GoodLuck guys, looking good

posted December 09, 2003 10:43            

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Originally posted by Moose:
this is turning out too be a great day. LBTT up 100% and 33M vol in the first hour today.

And now PGHI is trading strong, once news comes out for this one it is through the roof!

So far its a Merry Christmas for me because of LBTT, now PGHI needs to make it a Happy New Year! lol

GoodLuck guys, looking good

-moose-

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posted December 09, 2003 10:47            

Good Luck

posted December 09, 2003 10:50            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
bids up, are they trying to shake loose some shares again

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posted December 09, 2003 10:56            

Voila....there is a 300,000 share buy at the ask of .047. Wonder if that was sitting on their desk as they raised the bid/ask?

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Are the MM trying to shake loose shares when the bid and ask are both higher then the price?

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posted December 09, 2003 11:05            

i know this defies every rule of trade by putting all your eggs in one basket, but PGHI is the ONLY exception

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Originally posted by zo:
There should be alot of money coming in after the profit taking done with LBTT late on today...zo...

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posted December 09, 2003 11:08            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I tell you what... it is early yet and we have traded 6.3 million. Love the volume... Remember Gap ups are usually followed by a retrace and then a continuation... Let's see how this plays out. mach

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posted December 09, 2003 11:11            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Congratulations Moose on LBTT. We did get some news on PGHI today and are anticipating a push through resistance... the area in which we are trading. Once it breaks watch out. mach

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posted December 09, 2003 11:13            

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Originally posted by Moose:
hmm, thats strange, news didn't come up as a news alert. Well its nice to see their making progress in their operations, now lets see the pps make some progress, upwards!

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posted December 09, 2003 11:13            

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Originally posted by Moose:
hmm, thats strange, news didn't come up as a news alert. Well its nice to see their making progress in their operations, now lets see the pps make some progress, upwards!

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posted December 09, 2003 11:37            

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Originally posted by PSU90:
You know what Moose....you are right. I hadn't even noticed that since I read it here. The news is not on my Ameritrade streamer!

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posted December 09, 2003 11:43            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Nice support here at .043

BetNit why did you chase it! Theres always a little give back! I've done the same many a time

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posted December 09, 2003 11:55            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Cause I'm an idiot. I knew I shouldn't have, but I got overtaken by greed. No worries though , I bought most at .031 through .037. Still up with this baby, , but that last buy at .049 sure did take a little profit away. Hopefully we will get a strong close and everything will be all right. Soon we will all be rich

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posted December 09, 2003 12:06            

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Bet'n... remember the ups and downs... it will not go up every day... here on out... its about patience... in the long run... you are the winner. mach

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posted December 09, 2003 12:49            

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Originally posted by DeportAllNabobs:
simple question: What will the the issuance of another 100,000,000 shares do to the price of this stock?

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posted December 09, 2003 12:51            

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Originally posted by DeportAllNabobs:
simple question: What will the the issuance of another 100,000,000 shares do to the price of this stock?

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As I read the filing (others please LMK if you agree/disagree), this registration of shares is primarily for employee compensation purposes. A very common practice with start up companies. I don't see them flooding the market. Maybe I'm wrong?

From the filing:

The purposes of the Plan are to enable Point Group Holdings, Incorporated, a
Nevada corporation ("Company"), to promote the interests of the Company
and its shareholders by attracting and retaining non-employee Directors
and Consultants capable of furthering the future success of the Company
and by aligning their economic interests more closely with those of the
Company's shareholders, by paying their retainer or fees in the form of
shares of the Company's common stock, par value one tenth of one cent
($0.001) per share ("Common Stock").

4. Eligibility.

Each individual who is a Director or Consultant on the Effective Date
and each individual who becomes a Director or Consultant thereafter
during the term of the Plan, shall be a participant ("Participant") in
the Plan, in each case during such period as such individual remains a
Director or Consultant and is not an employee of the Company or any of
its subsidiaries. Each credit of shares of Common Stock pursuant to the
Plan shall be evidenced by a written agreement duly executed and
delivered by or on behalf of the Company and a Participant, if such an
agreement is required by the Company to assure compliance with all
applicable laws and regulations.

5. Grants of Shares.

Commencing on the Effective Date, the amount for service to directors or
consultants shall instead be payable in shares of Common Stock ("Stock
Retainer") pursuant to this Plan at the deemed issuance price of one
tenth of one cent ($0.001) per Share.

6. Deferral Option.

From and after the Effective Date, a Participant may make an election (a
"Deferral Election") on an annual basis to defer delivery of the Stock
Retainer specifying which one of the following way the Stock Retainer is
to be delivered: (a) on the date which is three years after the
Effective Date for which it was originally payable ("Third
Anniversary"), (b) on the date upon which the Participant ceases to be a
Director or Consultant for any reason ("Departure Date") or (c) in five
equal annual installments commencing on the Departure Date ("Third
Anniversary" and "Departure Date" each being referred to herein as a
"Delivery Date"). Such Deferral Election shall remain in effect for
each Subsequent Year unless changed, provided that, any Deferral
Election with respect to a particular Year may not be changed less than
six (6) months prior to the beginning of such Year and provided,
further, that no more than one Deferral Election or change thereof may
be made in any Year.

Any Deferral Election and any change or revocation thereof shall be made
by delivering written notice thereof to the Committee no later than six
(6) months prior to the beginning of the Year in which it is to be
effected; provided that, with respect to the Year beginning on the
Effective Date, any Deferral Election or revocation thereof must be
delivered no later than the close of business on the thirtieth (30th)
day after the Effective Date.

7. Deferred Stock Accounts.

The Company shall maintain a Deferred Stock Account for each Participant
who makes a Deferral Election to which shall be credited, as of the
applicable Payment Time, the number of shares of Common Stock payable
pursuant to the Stock Retainer to which the Deferral Election relates.
So long as any amounts in such Deferred Stock Account have not been
delivered to the Participant under Section 8, each Deferred Stock
Account shall be credited as of the payment date for any dividend paid
or other distribution made with respect to the Common Stock, with a
number of shares of Common Stock equal to (a) the number of shares of
Common Stock shown in such Deferred Stock Account on the record date for
such dividend or distribution multiplied by (b) the Dividend Equivalent
for such dividend or distribution.

8. Delivery of Shares.

(a) The shares of Common Stock in a Participant's Deferred Stock
Account with respect to any Stock Retainer for which a Deferral Election
has been made (together with dividends attributable to such shares
credited to such Deferred Stock Account) shall be delivered in
accordance with this Section 8 as soon as practicable after the
applicable Delivery Date. Except with respect to a Deferral Election
pursuant to Section 6(c), or other agreement between the parties, such
shares shall be delivered at one time; provided that, if the number of
shares so delivered includes a fractional share, such number shall be
rounded to the nearest whole number of shares. If the Participant has in
effect a Deferral Election pursuant to Section 6(c), then such shares
shall be delivered in five equal annual installments (together with
dividends attributable to such shares credited to such Deferred Stock
Account), with the first such installment being delivered on the first
anniversary of the Delivery Date; provided that, if in order to equalize
such installments, fractional shares would have to be delivered, such
installments shall be adjusted by rounding to the nearest whole share.
If any such shares are to be delivered after the Participant has died or
become legally incompetent, they shall be delivered to the Participant's
estate or legal guardian, as the case may be, in accordance with the
foregoing; provided that, if the Participant dies with a Deferral
Election pursuant to Section 6(c) in effect, the Committee shall deliver
all remaining undelivered shares to the Participant's estate
immediately. References to a Participant in this Plan shall be deemed to
refer to the Participant's estate or legal guardian, where appropriate.

(b) The Company may, but shall not be required to, create a grantor
trust or utilize an existing grantor trust (in either case, "Trust") to
assist it in accumulating the shares of Common Stock needed to fulfill
its obligations under this Section 8. However, Participants shall
have no beneficial or other interest in the Trust and the assets
thereof, and their rights under the Plan shall be as general creditors
of the Company, unaffected by the existence or nonexistence of the
Trust, except that deliveries of Stock Retainers to Participants from
the Trust shall, to the extent thereof, be treated as satisfying the
Company's obligations under this Section 8.

9. Share Certificates; Voting and Other Rights.

The certificates for shares delivered to a Participant pursuant to
Section 8 above shall be issued in the name of the Participant, and from
and after the date of such issuance the Participant shall be entitled to
all rights of a shareholder with respect to Common Stock for all such
shares issued in his or her name, including the right to vote the
shares, and the Participant shall receive all dividends and other
distributions paid or made with respect thereto.

10. General Restrictions.

(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the Plan or agreements made
pursuant thereto, the Company shall not be required to issue or deliver
any certificate or certificates for shares of Common Stock under the
Plan prior to fulfillment of all of the following conditions:

(i) Listing or approval for listing upon official notice of issuance
of such shares on the New York Stock Exchange, Inc., or such other
securities exchange as may at the time be a market for the Common Stock;

(ii) Any registration or other qualification of such shares under any
state or federal law or regulation, or the maintaining in effect of any
such registration or other qualification which the Committee shall, upon
the advice of counsel, deem necessary or advisable; and

(iii) Obtaining any other consent, approval, or permit from any state
or federal governmental agency which the Committee shall, after
receiving the advice of counsel, determine to be necessary or advisable.

(b) Nothing contained in the Plan shall prevent the Company from
adopting other or additional compensation arrangements for the
Participants.

11. Shares Available.

Subject to Section 12 below, the maximum number of shares of Common
Stock which may in the aggregate be paid as Stock Retainers pursuant to
the Plan is Two Hundred Fifty Million (250,000,000). Shares of Common
Stock issuable under the Plan may be taken from treasury shares of the
Company or purchased on the open market.

posted December 09, 2003 13:44            

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Originally posted by trader01:
WOW!!! .037, i am actually losing money now! Hope it turns around 180 degrees tomorrow and heads in the other direction.

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posted December 09, 2003 13:50            

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Originally posted by kcbudman:
I am waiting for scottrade to get more money in my account so I can load more into my boat.....I am hoping this is good for this reason....and then do an abrupt reverse. Mach, Uncle anyone see any reason not to buy more at these prices?

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posted December 09, 2003 14:34            

but....we're still gonna be rich! lol
Actually I don't have much invested in this, all my eggs are in the LBTT basket, but I have enough in this to make a nice penny.

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Originally posted by zo:
It's funny how when the price is up we are all talking about being rich...Living the life...When the price dips a little, we ll dissappear...Where did you all go?...:-)...zo...

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