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machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:08 BetN... I see that you are glued to the screen. If you watch this stock every minute of every day... you will age quickly... Be confident in your long term hold and know that there will be many ups and downs to come... in the end... you will win regardless of the intraday moves of swings or manipulation by MM... When they can... they do accumulate shares... mach quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: Can some one tell me why there would be such a big gap between the bid and ask. Are the MM trying to do something IP: Logged
BelgarathGFRPG Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:13 Volume dropped to 1.5 million? IP: Logged
old mullet Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:20 one of the things most lacking in many penny investors, next to diversity, is patience. lack of it can really adversely affect yur timing. that's why there are such huge swings in a penny stocks price. uncle milty IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:22 I'm still holding, and trying to being patient IP: Logged
kt325ci Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:27 quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: I'm still holding, and trying to being patient Just think of the dips as sale prices to add more shares. IP: Logged
Degs Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:31 looks like we may be able to get in around the .029 to.03 area today by looks of the chart. what do you all think? Mike IP: Logged
kt325ci Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:37 I think your best entry today will be around .03-.031. Currently, these are the bids on level 2: 3 @ .032, 3 @ .031, 4 @ .030. A lot of support keeping this above .03. IP: Logged
PSU90 Member	posted December 10, 2003 10:39 quote: Originally posted by old mullet: one of the things most lacking in many penny investors, next to diversity, is patience. lack of it can really adversely affect yur timing. that's why there are such huge swings in a penny stocks price. uncle milty Milty....you hit the nail on the head buddy! My lack of patience has cost me several big gains in the past couple months. And also caused me to sell several positions for loss that a few days later were even or green. Its my toughest obstacle to overcome....but I'm getting better. I have a great big stickie post on the corner of my computer now that says DO NOT EVER SELL PGHI FOR A LOSS!! IP: Logged
kt325ci Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:04 Kind of off topic but speaking of patience, I bought RNKE on 11/24 at .0044. Then it kept going down every day to the low .003s. Then finally news came out yesterday and it got a nice pop and is currently around .007. I was so tempted to sell for a loss but can now make some profit from it. IP: Logged
bill New Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:15 Question 1) What does MM mean(refer to below statement) Its better for us long termers because we shook off weak hands and MMs loaded themselves. As long as MMs help thrust this up with their massive investments, we gain. IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:17 I'm quite happy with PGHI right now. This dip makes future gains possible. I also like ATNG, they launched their new website today IP: Logged
zo Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:26 You guys are actually panicking?...Cone on...This thing is gonna shoot back up...If not today, tomorrow, if not tomorrow, next week...What i'm sayng is this is a great stock to own and no on should be panicking...If you really want to be rich, come back in three years and check your account, you won't be dissappointed...That's the best thing you can do...Go hybranate...Go on a mission...Go on a tour...And come back in three years...Good luck all...zo... IP: Logged
denzen Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:48 Like that attitude! Dz / quote: Originally posted by zo: You guys are actually panicking?...Cone on...This thing is gonna shoot back up...If not today, tomorrow, if not tomorrow, next week...What i'm sayng is this is a great stock to own and no on should be panicking...If you really want to be rich, come back in three years and check your account, you won't be dissappointed...That's the best thing you can do...Go hybranate...Go on a mission...Go on a tour...And come back in three years...Good luck all...zo... IP: Logged
tigerontop Member	posted December 10, 2003 11:56 If anything...I am buying more! quote: Originally posted by zo: You guys are actually panicking?...Cone on...This thing is gonna shoot back up...If not today, tomorrow, if not tomorrow, next week...What i'm sayng is this is a great stock to own and no on should be panicking...If you really want to be rich, come back in three years and check your account, you won't be dissappointed...That's the best thing you can do...Go hybranate...Go on a mission...Go on a tour...And come back in three years...Good luck all...zo... IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 12:16 OT: How low is too low for afrr? And why does it drop on every PR? Lack of sellers (ask) for PGHI Im not sure if this will even make it down to 3 IP: Logged
PSU90 Member	posted December 10, 2003 12:25 Cabbage.....I lost faith in AFRR a long time ago. That was my first big losing position. I bought in big (over a million shares) in the .005s with my big profits from PGHI shares (bought at .008 and sold at .03 during the first run up). AFRR tanked soon after and I finally bailed out at .0042. At this point I'm glad I bailed! Today's news IMO was simply awful. Why are they still reporting TESTS of the product when Christmas is two weeks away? Unbelievable. IMO, that is what took it down. Sure, its great that the test was successful....but they should be beyond reporting about tests... people want sales figures! quote: Originally posted by cabbage22: OT: How low is too low for afrr? And why does it drop on every PR? Lack of sellers (ask) for PGHI Im not sure if this will even make it down to 3 As for PGHI....no lost faith here. Lots of good news in the weeks ahead. IP: Logged
coumars Member	posted December 10, 2003 12:25 How much low pGHi can go?. quote: Originally posted by cabbage22: OT: How low is too low for afrr? And why does it drop on every PR? Lack of sellers (ask) for PGHI Im not sure if this will even make it down to 3 IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 12:29 I agree with you PSU... regarding AFRR. But I think you will find that in the future... this "Testing" will simply be an excuse for sales that were far less than expected. AFRR failed completely. If they were going anywhere they would have moved up by Thanksgiving. Retail Accounts needed to be established in early October. I thought there was huge upside potential here... but it failed. Big disappointment as I had originally supported this company. And so it goes. mach quote: Originally posted by PSU90: Cabbage.....I lost faith in AFRR a long time ago. That was my first big losing position. I bought in big (over a million shares) in the .005s with my big profits from PGHI shares (bought at .008 and sold at .03 during the first run up). AFRR tanked soon after and I finally bailed out at .0042. At this point I'm glad I bailed! Today's news IMO was simply awful. Why are they still reporting TESTS of the product when Christmas is two weeks away? Unbelievable. IMO, that is what took it down. Sure, its great that the test was successful....but they should be beyond reporting about tests... people want sales figures! As for PGHI....no lost faith here. Lots of good news in the weeks ahead. IP: Logged
raven76 Member	posted December 10, 2003 12:46 Bought 40K more shares @.033.. If it drops I'll buy more.. For mates who can't decide to hold for a long term or trade, I hold 80K for long and trade with other 50-100K depending on my available cash.. Since 10MA didn't hold, looks like it might test .029-.03(20EMA).. Good Luck IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 13:43 I dont see this going much lower, the asks need to come down to push it lower Looking for a good load point today or tomorrow IP: Logged
trader01 Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:02 RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged
Degs Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:06 well the ask just hit .03 and I got more hope others did. IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:10 Big volume accumulating- good load point imo IP: Logged
raven76 Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:32 The good thing is, when we make a new 52 week high, we will already have made 50% or more with the new shares.. Good Luck P.S: Emotions will only cause us to lose in penny world..Let's do not forget that guys... quote: Originally posted by Degs: well the ask just hit .03 and I got more hope others did. IP: Logged
djjunior Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:44 i had got in yesterday at .04 for 25k shares nervous as hell about this stock, but hopefully in the long run it will prove it self. Just gotta buy and hold i guess... The new website looks pretty sick, and if u compare other companies to this one, the stock price seems fairly undervalued. IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 15:50 It is undervalued, even with the stock issue. There are stocks @ .30 with a fraction of the revenues, and twice as many shares with no prospects for growth. The price will go up, theres no way it wont given the fundamentals- which is what really moves prices IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 16:21 Happy days ahead. Many strong hands here. mach IP: Logged
drwright68 Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:08 i'm sure that there are alot of new longs that nervous about being down on this stock...do not worry, i have been in this stock for a couple of months now. there are several pr's that will be coming out at anytime now. the new website should be up and running in the next week or so. the stock has had some healthy retracement over the last 2 days. we are clearly in an uptrend and after today we are once again oversold, we should begin the next leg to a new high very soon. any 1 pr of the several that are coming should send us back to a new high and beyond. this is an excellent time to be accumulating down here. Dave quote: Originally posted by machtabow2: Happy days ahead. Many strong hands here. mach IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:20 Well I sure as hell ain't getting out now. I would lose a crap load of money. I am in for the long run. Besides, I just took my last final , passed all my classes. Life is looking great. [This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 10, 2003).] IP: Logged
kcbudman Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:31 "passed" all your classes. Sorry, I couldn't resist!!!!LOL. Only a fool would sell for a loss here. Big things are gonna be happening here...I got more shares today, as much as I want it to explode now, another day or two to accumulate wouldn't hurt my feelings.... quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: Well I sure as hell ain't getting out now. I would lose a crap load of money. I am in for the long run. Besides, I just took my last final , past all my classes. Life is looking great. IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:31 Betn... I'm glad your holding strong... Many people make the mistake of buying high... chasing it up and then selling at the bottom via panic selling... I did this when I began... and lost thousands of dollars... I soon learned that stocks go up and down... A stock like PGHI is super hot... and will have endless up and down days for years to come... One day you will look back on these days... and smiling. Within the past month... it surged to a new high... pulled back for two weeks and then within days exploded to another new high... hold strong... .10 cents and beyond will be here sooner than you think... mach quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: Well I sure as hell ain't getting out now. I would lose a crap load of money. I am in for the long run. Besides, I just took my last final , past all my classes. Life is looking great. IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:36 thanx, got that changed. ahhh new keyboard . Besides, my major is Electrical Eng. quote: Originally posted by kcbudman: "passed" all your classes. Sorry, I couldn't resist!!!!LOL. Only a fool would sell for a loss here. Big things are gonna be happening here...I got more shares today, as much as I want it to explode now, another day or two to accumulate wouldn't hurt my feelings.... IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:41 Well, I have good news. Well it may not be good news but its news, and when we are down 20%, any news is good news. I called the 1-888-.... Number on their website (PGHI.biz) and the message uses their new name. ".....thanx for calling GamesNFlix formally known as PGHI...." Also says that they are moving to new headquarters starting December 10th and will be done Jan 1st, so they will take some time getting back to you if you leave a message. Makes me feel better. They jumped right on that move after the PR. Now if the website would come out we would be in great shape. IP: Logged
denjohn1000 Member	posted December 10, 2003 17:52 Hey everybody, Ahhhh another downday, no worries here. Like mach said: Stocks go up and down, up and down. I am still waiting for my cytp to go back up, can't believe I am still holding that stock. Oh well, it will come back up one day. Hey mach, remember our converstion a couple of days ago about the .02's? It is going to happen tomorrow imo. Most likely for the rest of this week. Den IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 18:20 Denjohn... at that time we hit .029 and bounced to .049 in two days... I bet your kicking yourself for not getting in then. I'll be accumulating in the .02's for the next voyage. Good luck. mach quote: Originally posted by denjohn1000: Hey everybody, Ahhhh another downday, no worries here. Like mach said: Stocks go up and down, up and down. I am still waiting for my cytp to go back up, can't believe I am still holding that stock. Oh well, it will come back up one day. Hey mach, remember our converstion a couple of days ago about the .02's? It is going to happen tomorrow imo. Most likely for the rest of this week. Den IP: Logged
denjohn1000 Member	posted December 10, 2003 18:27 Not kicking, more like strangling myself. hehehe quote: Originally posted by machtabow2: Denjohn... at that time we hit .029 and bounced to .049 in two days... I bet your kicking yourself for not getting in then. I'll be accumulating in the .02's for the next voyage. Good luck. mach IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 18:36 I have a question for you guys. Does anyone have any comments about selling PGHI for a huge loss and buying back in with another trade. A quick turn around. Great for a tax write off considering were so close to the end of the year. Also, if it goes way up and you sell by the end of the year it softens the tax blow. Any rules against that. IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 19:24 Betn. Don't sell at a loss ever. Don't even think about it. As soon as you sell... it will immediately go up... Don't learn the hard way like I did. mach quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: I have a question for you guys. Does anyone have any comments about selling PGHI for a huge loss and buying back in with another trade. A quick turn around. Great for a tax write off considering were so close to the end of the year. Also, if it goes way up and you sell by the end of the year it softens the tax blow. Any rules against that. IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 19:32 Sell the ones your down 95% on to offset taxes. I sold my worldcom at the beginning of this year, and made up for it. IP: Logged
kcbudman Member	posted December 10, 2003 19:34 I agree....as soon as you sell it will go back up and you will be chasing and kicking. Its almost as if, "they", are targeting "you"... and when you buy, the price goes down, and when you sell, the price goes up....at least that is the way it feels some time. Stick with it....I wish I would have done that with FNIX recently....bought and sold on the exact opposites of when i should have. Still kicking myself for that (and hiding it from the wife). If someone would have told me to sit down, shut up, and hold on, I would be alright on FNIX....but I screwed the pooch on that one....Stay with this one, it will be OK. quote: Originally posted by machtabow2: Betn. Don't sell at a loss ever. Don't even think about it. As soon as you sell... it will immediately go up... Don't learn the hard way like I did. mach IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted December 10, 2003 19:39 Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not. IP: Logged
raven76 Member	posted December 10, 2003 21:54 Bet, As far as I know,you are not allowed to buy it back in one month period if you sell it for a tax write off.. quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: I have a question for you guys. Does anyone have any comments about selling PGHI for a huge loss and buying back in with another trade. A quick turn around. Great for a tax write off considering were so close to the end of the year. Also, if it goes way up and you sell by the end of the year it softens the tax blow. Any rules against that. IP: Logged
drwright68 Member	posted December 10, 2003 21:57 lol...yeah, you have to wait 30 days per IRS...lol..damn those guys...lol quote: Originally posted by BetNitAll: I have a question for you guys. Does anyone have any comments about selling PGHI for a huge loss and buying back in with another trade. A quick turn around. Great for a tax write off considering were so close to the end of the year. Also, if it goes way up and you sell by the end of the year it softens the tax blow. Any rules against that. IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 10, 2003 22:02 Thanx guys. I thought there was some rule like that, just wasn't sure. 30 days could be a killer, this stock could do anything in that amount of time. Personally, I would not sell for a big gain until the first of the year. If I make any more money they will take away my financial aid for school. Unless it was a reaaaallllllyyyy big gain. Trade wisely IP: Logged
VeeGeeZ New Member	posted December 10, 2003 22:30 Please join and share the wealth. Thanks http://groups.msn.com/PGHI-MoneyCentral IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 22:32 Wow... apparently people are finding this board also. I've read this site veegeez. Thanks. mach quote: Originally posted by VeeGeeZ: Please join and share the wealth. Thanks http://groups.msn.com/PGHI-MoneyCentral IP: Logged
VeeGeeZ New Member	posted December 10, 2003 22:39 [QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2: [B]Wow... apparently people are finding this board also. I've read this site veegeez. Thanks. mach N.P., did you try to call the company, check it out, I also have it maped on the MSN, the new location that is. Yeh I just found this site while doing a google search. Pretty cool, but MSN much easier to use. Thanks. IP: Logged
machtabow2 Member	posted December 10, 2003 23:03 I enjoy the friendly... very knowledgeable people on this board. Many have gained great respect and have valuable insight... I will continue to visit and read MSN daily. mach quote: Originally posted by VeeGeeZ: [QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2: [B]Wow... apparently people are finding this board also. I've read this site veegeez. Thanks. mach N.P., did you try to call the company, check it out, I also have it maped on the MSN, the new location that is. Yeh I just found this site while doing a google search. Pretty cool, but MSN much easier to use. Thanks. IP: Logged
adrenalix Member	posted December 10, 2003 23:57 I pulled an aerial map of PGHI's new headquarters in Kentucky and it looks like it's in a farm! Can someone take a look and tell me what you think? Perhaps that's what business centers look like in KY. But it seems fairly rural to me. You may have to cut and paste the full URL coz it doesn't work here. Zoomed In Version: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?dtype=a&mapdata=xdlKKnKES%2f5o4bNWAeVAzZfH%2fe9XyOPGuuXoVNro21PQkxfGwj4j5IjP6osd8H28geNYQrH4arViMm5MGWghvZ1HqaAJAEyY0QldAgi4kvIm4TMPlzuy5ZNT7TO v%2fBlxwW7gKUMLjKnLn0ifAtsLn3qCwWMaT5OUyDudB0iimQWbrQAWbAzRq7UTRWPyacQCJZ6K5aSh6lah7O5i8Zxof9Ujr%2fEAyJ72k%2fB4t5%2b8fplt3WJpSKRlSpyKhaFvH0B0wc2YaBYkaHCIJ8ZMyjdY5Kt8uW1w7E80Z%2f1ZB raU3g7H051pkkyfli91kSRa0dFyfzoR4cWARfNq063Ysx3%2fXbGxW8%2fHnuY%2b0cMRyQyd3n4q8XeNvZiJGW8vMqk656davO%2fjo5V1V1sqeqJJQQ%2ffpQ3nc3Zh96dZDdcIB1hcoxMbPy1ghuX4vx7O%2fvYzkHj6AUoTlPwepZN2S A0NITbKRAhjIosCXIpJztUgIDoUqCIKzSQL2dQhlwkJkRz26kQp%2bS92Erb%2f66knOB2zVHnmQQ%3d%3d High-Level Version: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?dtype=a&mapdata=xdlKKnKES%2f5o4bNWAeVAzZfH%2fe9XyOPGuuXoVNro21PQkxfGwj4j5IjP6osd8H28geNYQrH4arViMm5MGWghvZ1HqaAJAEyY0QldAgi4kvIm4TMPlzuy5ZNT7TO v%2fBlxwW7gKUMLjKnLn0ifAtsLn3qCwWMaT5OUyDudB0iimQWbrQAWbAzRq7UTRWPyacQCJZ6K5aSh6lah7O5i8Zxof9Ujr%2fEAyJ72k%2fB4t5%2b8fplt3WJpSKRlSpyKhaFvH0B0wc2YaBYkaHCIJ8ZMyjdY5Kt8uW1w7E80Z%2f1ZB raU3g7H051pkkyfli91kSRa0dFyfzoR4cWARfNq063Ysx3%2fXbGxW8%2fHnuY%2b0cMRyQyd3n4q8XeNvZiJGW8vMqk656davO%2fjo5V1V1sqeqJJQQ%2ffpQ3nc3Zh96dZDdcIB1hcoxMbPy1ghuX4vx7O%2fvYzkHj6AUoTlPwepZN2S A0NITbKRAhjIosCXIpJztUgIDoUqCIKzSQL2dQhlwkJkRz26kQp%2bS92Erb%2f66knOB2zVHnmQQ%3d%3d [This message has been edited by adrenalix (edited December 11, 2003).] IP: Logged
BetNitAll Member	posted December 11, 2003 00:26 I would not worry about it, its only two miles from I-65 IP: Logged

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