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Sometimes it frightens me what can be found on google.....

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quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
don't post here, much--but I gotta agree: I've not been eating at Burger King since that eerie botox mask character showed up...I'm afraid he'll poke his head out the payout window.

I agree with you ... I just don't like the new Burger King commercials. Too "scarey". I know a couple youngsters who scream and hide everytime the Burger King ad comes on ... he scares them more than Freddy Krueger, who the kids think is funny. Go figure. [Big Grin]

But I have to admit there's never any doubt about the company BK is representing.

Unlike the old "Where's the beef?" lady (Clara Peller), no one will forget which burgers the "botox" king is pitching. Although I loved Clara's character, I had to do a web search to confirm which burger she was pushing (it was not Burger King or Micky D, by the way). [Cool]

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I must be lagging on watching TV cos I haven't seen that commercial....the one I am talking about is where a 'gay' guy introduces, I think it was the BK salad...funky glasses, hair, clothes...c'mon, someone's got to remember that one. Those were the type of commercials I was referring to in my earlier post. And now there is one about a 'gay' guy pimping this car..dressed in all white...(laughing as I type this)....I guess I got too much time on my hands today.... [Big Grin]
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BL....let's go play some poker on pokerstars [Big Grin]
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Ad astra...OT: I dunno about you...but that Burger King guy really freaks me out. Im mean, really, really freaks me out.

ad man, you are right on the money with that. and i'm from an era that knows something about freakin' out.

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well, here's how i see things. all of this fwiw and in my vHo....


if mr. fan is paying for this 'vdc' carriage, at least we know THAT money went to a start-up, and may at least boost awareness and viewers. some people must be getting paid, or we wouldn't be airing.
all positive for qtn.


btw...is anybody (besides me) bothered that this mr. lloyd fan (or harold hsu, or harold lsu, or"?"...)

...who has been publicly announced by the company as the new 'man in control'

...for whom little authoritative, verifiable credentials have been provided

...who has presented no documents (that the common shareholders are aware of), stock certificates, cashiers checks or receipts, or agreements of any kind (such as: a CONTRACT).

[how many shareholder dollars is mr. fan to be or is being compensated with?]
[how was mr. fan put in charge--bod vote, options, contract, cash, charity?]

...official wa sos corporate filings for tmm and qtn reflect no changes of corporate officers (ie: president/chairman)

...with no evidence of majority ownership


--is spending the shareholders money.


he can't own more than frank's 53%. he can't own frank's 53%.
treasury could have those 'buyback' shares. there's also whatever is issued and outstanding, and whatever is left of the a/s after all that.

all of mr. fan's shares plus all of that still will not equal frank's 53%.

again....for frank's shares (53% or however many) to change ownership to mr. lloyd fan or anybody else, there must be a federal filing.

a contract for pres/chairman is all well and good, but for frank's 53% share ownership to transfer (even into the treasury), he must file with the sec.

unless frank no longer owns 53%. if that is the case, then the majority is held by....who? again, why mr. fan? who voted him in?

no 53%, no 50%, no quorum or majority. ...shareholder vote? anybody get a proxy?


people ask ...where has all the money gone?


maybe...from QBID (tmm), to Franklyn Broadcasting, to frank....

...better than tinkers to evers to chance.......


how about...from QBID (tmm), to qtn, to nti, to nevada corp. of frank and his valcom buddies....

...LBS, Gulf State Holdings....


or....from QBID (tmm), to qtn, to [INSERT NAME of frank olsen D.B.A. entity HERE]....


dirty shell indeed.

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King...where did the rest of your post go???? I read all of it...refreshed and it's gone... It was awesome what you said!!
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ok..it's back...something 'freaky' goin on with my PC, I guess!!
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KC, there's no requirement to file anything with the SEC per CEO transfer, or sale of stock or the buying of Frank's shares if the stock trades on the pink sheets. with the exception of certain "qualified" foreign issuers, the pink sheets are a non-reporting third market not regulated by the SEC.

i do wonder how Fan got control of the company though. maybe when the A/S was raised to 350 bill, all that was purchased by Fan. who knows though.

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no mrs d, it was me.....wanted to seperate it from my comment to the ad man...sorry....

gonna post this again here...


well, here's how i see things. all of this fwiw and in my vHo....


if mr. fan is paying for this 'vdc' carriage, at least we know THAT money went to a start-up, and may at least boost awareness and viewers. some people must be getting paid, or we wouldn't be airing.
all positive for qtn.


btw...is anybody (besides me) bothered that this mr. lloyd fan (or harold hsu, or harold lsu, or"?"...)

...who has been publicly announced by the company as the new 'man in control'

...for whom little authoritative, verifiable credentials have been provided

...who has presented no documents (that the common shareholders are aware of), stock certificates, cashiers checks or receipts, or agreements of any kind (such as: a CONTRACT).

[how many shareholder dollars is mr. fan to be or is being compensated with?]
[how was mr. fan put in charge--bod vote, options, contract, cash, charity?]

...official wa sos corporate filings for tmm and qtn reflect no changes of corporate officers (ie: president/chairman)

...with no evidence of majority ownership


--is spending the shareholders money.


he can't own more than frank's 53%. he can't own frank's 53%.
treasury could have those 'buyback' shares. there's also whatever is issued and outstanding, and whatever is left of the a/s after all that.

all of mr. fan's shares plus all of that still will not equal frank's 53%.

again....for frank's shares (53% or however many) to change ownership to mr. lloyd fan or anybody else, there must be a federal filing.

a contract for pres/chairman is all well and good, but for frank's 53% share ownership to transfer (even into the treasury), he must file with the sec.

unless frank no longer owns 53%. if that is the case, then the majority is held by....who? again, why mr. fan? who voted him in?

no 53%, no 50%, no quorem or majority. ...shareholder vote? anybody get a proxy?


people ask ...where has all the money gone?


maybe...from QBID (tmm), to Franklyn Broadcasting, to frank....

...better than tinkers to evers to chance.......


how about...from QBID (tmm), to qtn, to nti, to nevada corp. of frank and his valcom buddies....

...LBS, Gulf State Holdings....


or....from QBID (tmm), to qtn, to [INSERT NAME of frank olsen D.B.A. entity HERE]....


dirty shell indeed.

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quote:
Originally posted by bottomfishing:
KC, there's no requirement to file anything with the SEC per CEO transfer, or sale of stock or the buying of Frank's shares if the stock trades on the pink sheets.

frank has to file when he sells any of his stock.
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quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
BL....let's go play some poker on pokerstars [Big Grin]

I haven't played PokerStars for quite awhile. Been playing UltimateBet freerolls to win a seat on their weekly TV show. Also trying for a seat at the Aruba tournament.

I've also been playing freeroll tournaments lately on BOSPoker. It offers freerolls for real money prizes, althought they're small (like $13.50 top prize), but that money can be used to enter larger-prize games. A friend turned $8.50 (second prize) into several hundred. I have not been so lucky, but I do win money occasionally.

Got my wife playing now too ... online and in live tournaments. We have been playing two or three times a week locally, and will be going to Vegas later this summer.

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no he does not. there is no filing requirement under the pink sheets. it is an unregulated market

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Originally posted by King Crimson:
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frank has to file when he sells any of his stock. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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per SEC website. i believe someone else posted this a couple of days ago.

The Pink Sheets does not require companies whose securities are quoted upon its systems to meet any listing requirements. With the exception of a few foreign issuers, the companies quoted in the Pink Sheets tend to be closely held, extremely small and/or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq Stock Market. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC,

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...k, whatever you say....

frank himself has said he has to file in the cc.......


everyone should do their own dd.

don't take anybody's word on it.

[ April 11, 2006, 19:11: Message edited by: King Crimson ]

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King Crimson,

Not to be confused with Burger King (LOL!)

Those are very good points and questions, for the most part, and “WE” need answers. IMO, This is the kind of TRANSPARENCY that should be revealed. Let's hope Lloyd can deliver. "WE" have been burned once before with the Frankie the Fraudster - "WE" don’t need to be misled again. Therefore, I am still skeptical – hoping, but skeptical none-the-less.

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you believe frank when it comes to that, after all the crap he's told us. im sure he's not up to date on securities regulation

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
...k, whatever you say....

frank himself has said he has to file in the cc.......


everyone should do their own dd.

don't take anybody's word on it.


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quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
quote:
Originally posted by bottomfishing:
KC, there's no requirement to file anything with the SEC per CEO transfer, or sale of stock or the buying of Frank's shares if the stock trades on the pink sheets.

frank has to file when he sells any of his stock.
King-are you sure he has to file if he is on the pink sheets? Usually you would file with the SEC (not sure if its 10b-5 or rule 16?...its too early this morning) [Smile]

Since you don't have to file your financials, it seems you would not have to file any type of sales. But again, i could be totally offbase. Thanks in advance if you could provide guidance.

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quote:
Originally posted by bottomfishing:
per SEC website. i believe someone else posted this a couple of days ago.

The Pink Sheets does not require companies whose securities are quoted upon its systems to meet any listing requirements. With the exception of a few foreign issuers, the companies quoted in the Pink Sheets tend to be closely held, extremely small and/or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq Stock Market. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC,

With so many suspect securities and even scams on pink sheets...im surprised people have not gone after the folks that manage the pink sheets trading system. Clearly they are in a better position to monitor the legitimacy of these stocks than anyone else.
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pretty cool special on right now. Sugar Ray is a good band.
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Im in meetings all day so this is it for me...but has anyone noticed that the volume had dropped like a bad habit since Fan released that email about his inability to produce accurate numbers? Interesting.
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i have a great idea on how we could recoup some of the money lost...lets have fan make a movie about this whole frankie the fraud scam and we could end the movie with the investers tracking frank down on an island somewhere..tie him naked to a tree and use a tennis ball machine to shoot boiled potatos up his a** till he turns blue in the face...hows that for an idea [Eek!]

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Why on earth would you want to reward Frank?!?!? [Big Grin]

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Thanks KC i that is what i suspected last week and posted that i felt that may be the case

rod


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quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
Yes, I believe Frank is gone.

state of washington disagrees. however, in all fairness, william at wa sos says that the filing to change corporate officers could take a while to post. even a month or so. reasons for not filing can't be financial--costs $10, $20 if you expedite and be posted in a couple days.

good luck all. as of 5 minutes ago....


...no change of any corp officers....

...No new amendments....


wa sos....(360) 753-7115 (option 5)

tmm ubi 601 047 757

05/08/51 Date of Incorporation
08/24/04 amendment a/s + to 50b
07/25/05 license renewed (due 5/31/05)
11/07/05 amendment a/s + to 60b
12/19/05 amendment a/s + to 100b
02/07/06 amendment a/s + to 350b

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
rene schenk, sec/tres


qtn ubi 602 391 767

qtn corp status:
5/03/04 --Date of Incorporation a/s 75k
6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active
6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive
9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved
9/08/05 --reinstated
9/8/05 to present --active

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
joseph morales, vice pres
marian sherman, director
rene schenk, sec/director



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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and after all that has gone on, you believe him?

lol

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
...k, whatever you say....

frank himself has said he has to file in the cc.......


everyone should do their own dd.

don't take anybody's word on it.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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na he would like this too much.. I think we should torture him with naked belly dancers.

lol

i think he would like the potatoes up the ass too much.

besides i dont think i could stomack the sight of him tied naked to anything.

ohhhhhhhhhhhh godddddddddddddd

i just get shivers thinking about.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by kaos:
i have a great idea on how we could recoup some of the money lost...lets have fan make a movie about this whole frankie the fraud scam and we could end the movie with the investers tracking frank down on an island somewhere..tie him naked to a tree and use a tennis ball machine to shoot boiled potatos up his a** till he turns blue in the face...hows that for an idea [Eek!]



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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quote:
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Im in meetings all day so this is it for me...but has anyone noticed that the volume had dropped like a bad habit since Fan released that email about his inability to produce accurate numbers? Interesting.

Noticed that too. Could it be that MM or principles of QBID are no longer trading the stock based on the statement that someone made from IHUB that investigators and attorneys were involved. These may be people brought in by Mr. Fan to help straighten out the audit. IMO
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wow only 27 million traded today so far. this is extremely quiet for Q.

something is up. hopefully it is good and not bad. we have had our share of bad news.

rod

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quote:
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Why on earth would you want to reward Frank?!?!? [Big Grin]

BIG LOL! [Eek!]
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(((crickets chirping)))
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http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=63939

Q Television Network Becomes Second Gay-Themed Channel to Air United Church of Christ's Ad at No Charge

4/12/2006 11:39:00 AM


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To: National Desk, Feature Writer

Contact: The Rev. J. Bennett Guess of United Church of Christ, 216-736-2177, 216-773-9222 or newsroom*ucc.org

CLEVELAND, April 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Q Television, a national network directed to the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, has become the second gay-themed cable channel to run the United Church of Christ's "ejector" commercial for free as a public service announcement.

QTN plans to run the UCC's 30-second "ejector" spot at least six or seven times a day because of its positive, LGBT-inclusive message, a QTN spokesperson said.

The decision comes a week after LOGO, a Viacom-owned, gay- focused network, rejected the ad, apparently in keeping with its parent company's blanket decision to deny the UCC's gay-positive advertisements. QTN becomes the second gay network to say it will run the spots as public service announcements. Here! TV announced on April 11 that it will run the church's message indefinitely on its national premium cable channel.

"The management of Q is very pleased to participate in the airing of your public service announcement," Frank Hagan, QTN's general manager and programming director. "We are a network of inclusiveness, which is the bottom line message of your 'ejector' PSA."

QTN, a 24-hour network owned wholly by Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. in Burbank, Calif., is available through several cable systems, including Time-Warner, Cox Communications and RCN, among others.

"QTN commends (the UCC's) efforts," Hagan said. "Personally and professionally, I also appreciate the message and the messenger."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

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/© 2006 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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This brings up an interesting thing. I think I remember someone calling the studio and asking for Frank. The answer was something like "he's not in yet". I wonder if they asked for Frank Olsen or just Frank. The phone answerer could have easily thought they were asking about Frank Hagan!

Just a though.
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At no charge! Alrighty, what is wrong with the QTN business model? No wonder we are not making any money - we are giving away free air space. LOL!

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http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=63939

Q Television Network Becomes Second Gay-Themed Channel to Air United Church of Christ's Ad at No Charge

4/12/2006 11:39:00 AM


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To: National Desk, Feature Writer

Contact: The Rev. J. Bennett Guess of United Church of Christ, 216-736-2177, 216-773-9222 or newsroom*ucc.org

CLEVELAND, April 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Q Television, a national network directed to the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, has become the second gay-themed cable channel to run the United Church of Christ's "ejector" commercial for free as a public service announcement.

QTN plans to run the UCC's 30-second "ejector" spot at least six or seven times a day because of its positive, LGBT-inclusive message, a QTN spokesperson said.

The decision comes a week after LOGO, a Viacom-owned, gay- focused network, rejected the ad, apparently in keeping with its parent company's blanket decision to deny the UCC's gay-positive advertisements. QTN becomes the second gay network to say it will run the spots as public service announcements. Here! TV announced on April 11 that it will run the church's message indefinitely on its national premium cable channel.

"The management of Q is very pleased to participate in the airing of your public service announcement," Frank Hagan, QTN's general manager and programming director. "We are a network of inclusiveness, which is the bottom line message of your 'ejector' PSA."

QTN, a 24-hour network owned wholly by Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. in Burbank, Calif., is available through several cable systems, including Time-Warner, Cox Communications and RCN, among others.

"QTN commends (the UCC's) efforts," Hagan said. "Personally and professionally, I also appreciate the message and the messenger."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

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