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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Well, all the tickers seem to be broken after the announcement today. I think yahoo reset around 5 billion. Anybody have any numbers, total volume, L2s?


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QBID0.00, +0.00, 0.0%) and Q Television Network [QTN] have announced today that they have entered into a new agreement with Mr. Lloyd Fan. Effective immediately, Lloyd Fan will assume the role of Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and Q Television Network. Mr. Fan succeeds QTN founder Frank Olsen. The move is the culmination of Fan's investment interests and the companies' evolving directions.
Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations. Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming.
The current and moving forward financial obligations of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN are also being vigorously reviewed, and a fresh approach to resolving these situations will be announced in the coming weeks.
"The QTN business model presents a multitude of possibilities, and I look forward to taking outgoing Chairman Frank Olsen's vision to the next level," said Mr. Fan. "I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community."
Lloyd Fan brings many years of achievement in corporate finance, strategic growth initiatives, OEM manufacturing, international trade and product direct-distribution through his Best Prop Holding Group -- which owns Pat Prod Productions and Patented Product Industries. With a proud and proven track record, Mr. Fan is highly respected in the financial, manufacturing and service sector throughout Asia.
About Q Television Network:
This 24/7, premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.
The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(r) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
Contacts:

QTN Media Relations
Jim Strzalkowski & Kristien Brada-Thompson
Priority Public Relations
(818) 338-3555
jim*prioritypr.net / kristien*prioritypr.net


 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Triangle Multi-Media Limited and Q Television Network Enter Into Agreement to Name New Chairman and CEO
Tuesday March 7, 11:29 am ET


BURBANK, Calif., March 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited (OTC: QBID - News) and Q Television Network [QTN] have announced today that they have entered into a new agreement with Mr. Lloyd Fan. Effective immediately, Lloyd Fan will assume the role of Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and Q Television Network. Mr. Fan succeeds QTN founder Frank Olsen. The move is the culmination of Fan's investment interests and the companies' evolving directions.
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Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations. Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming.

The current and moving forward financial obligations of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN are also being vigorously reviewed, and a fresh approach to resolving these situations will be announced in the coming weeks.

"The QTN business model presents a multitude of possibilities, and I look forward to taking outgoing Chairman Frank Olsen's vision to the next level," said Mr. Fan. "I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community."

Lloyd Fan brings many years of achievement in corporate finance, strategic growth initiatives, OEM manufacturing, international trade and product direct-distribution through his Best Prop Holding Group -- which owns Pat Prod Productions and Patented Product Industries. With a proud and proven track record, Mr. Fan is highly respected in the financial, manufacturing and service sector throughout Asia.

About Q Television Network:

This 24/7, premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.

The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(r) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.

Safe Harbor Statement

As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.


Contacts:

QTN Media Relations
Jim Strzalkowski & Kristien Brada-Thompson
Priority Public Relations
(818) 338-3555
jim*prioritypr.net / kristien*prioritypr.net

QTN Investor Relations
Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc
(617) 314-7379
Staff*EquityRelations.com


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: Triangle Multi-Media Limited; Q Television Network
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Im concerned about this.

there is not any info out there about this "Best Prop Holding" Group other then in mention of it in Q television prs in any of the search engines i use

http://ca.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv1-&p=%22Best+Prop+Holding%22+Group

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-11,GGLD:en&q=%22Best+Prop+Holding%22+Group

http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=%22Best+Prop+Holding%22+Group&kgs=1&kls=0

http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/%2522Best%2BProp%2BHolding%2522%2BGroup/1/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- /-/-/-/-/417/top

http://www.lycos.ca/search.html?sitesearch=&domains=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lycos.ca&q=%22Best+Prop+Holding%22+Group&client=pub-2715680911438820&channel=7131881753&sa=Search&cof=GALT%3A20 4A6C%3BDIV%3A336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BALC%3A204A6C%3BLC%3A204A6C%3BBGC%3Affffff%3BT%3A204A6C%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lycos.ca%3BFORID%3A11%3B


http://msxml.webcrawler.com/info.wbcrwl/search/web/%2522Best%2BProp%2BHolding%2522%2BGroup/1/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/417/top

http://msxml.excite.com/info.xcite/search/web/%2522Best%2BProp%2BHolding%2522%2BGroup

http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/web/%2522Best%2BProp%2BHolding%2522%2BGroup/1/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- /-/-/-/-/-/-/417/top

http://www.hotbot.com/default.asp?query=%22Best+Prop+Holding%22+Group&ps=&loc=searchbox&tab=web&provKey=Ask+Jeeves&prov=Ask+Jeeves
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
NEW THREAD GO FAN ARE WE CLUB YOU.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no my brokerage is froze at 290 million.

now i dont know how many times they have reset the counter.

Rod
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
I'm somewhat concerned myself, although there are a lot of private hedge funds and the like, plenty of different ways to compile money, and this could just be a new name they're using for this specific purchase.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
or are we to club you lol


quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
NEW THREAD GO FAN ARE WE CLUB YOU.


 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
imak, I wonder what the response would be now if you revisted Q?

quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
NEW THREAD GO FAN ARE WE CLUB YOU.


 
Posted by iwearpro on :
 
lol what happend to the pps.lol 5 billion traded and it went to.0001. everyone sell it all and cut their losses.lol
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
well if everyone sold then who is buying?

im thinking maybe Fan is being a big vacuum.

lol

maybe he will retire enough to get us back on track.

i doubt it though.

we will see.

he is a business man, and we will see just how good he is in the near future.

he bought himself a real mess, and i hope he has the vision to clean it up and make us proffitable.

we shall soon see.

he may have just bought a dirty shell and wants to dilute another couple hudred billion and take us beyond the CMKX record.

i hope that is not the case.

lol

man do i have mixed feelings today.

i know we will be seeing a R/S any time now, the question is, can we survive this and make money or is this all for nothing.

Rod
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
I also haven't been able to find anything on the companies it says he owns. I imagine they are also fairly new and meant to take over the production responsibilities from the current Q team. In name, at least.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
Good to see Frank gone, this is definately a breath of fresh air for the market and definately needed. Anybody who thought Frank Olsen was a good CEO , lol, oh well, i wont get into a big fight. LMAO

yes there could be underlying issues that nobody knows about that could be negative regarding this news, (RS, preferred shares, etc.) but all in all, needed to be done IMO.

Still keepin a close eye to see if it can follow suit with the rest of the POS subbies in this hot sector of the market.
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
The PR came from Frank's watch and you guys are questioning if it is honest and informative?

I would say all PRs backwards from today are questionable and are almost best left there... I am not holding my breathe but I am going to give Fan a chance to try this with a clean slate at least from my perspective. It cant get any worse. [Smile]

Reverse split or not, a value 0 is still not divisible by 0 regardless of who is in charge... so I am still hoping there is a rabbit in this hat somewhere!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
here is a letter that i have sent to mr Lloyd Fan

hopefully he will answer


Hello Mr. Fan.

Welcome to Q television network, and Triangle Multimedia.

I have been a long time share holder in this company.

I would like to ask if you will be looking after the shareholders in this company. Our previous CEO has promised us that we will not be disappointed in holding this stock in the long term. He promised us there would be no reverse splits of the stock.

Can I ask you this? Will we be happy if we continue to hold this stock? Do you intend to continue on with Frank Olsen's promise of no reverse split and will you bring us some transparency to this company?

As you may well know, there is a large base of stock holders that have held out on this company and backed them, even after loosing over 90% of there invested value.

I am writing you to please consider this when you are making the very hard decisions that you are about to embark upon.

I wish you all the continued success with this new venture you have taken on. Please keep the stock holders informed with accurate information as we have been here through the worst of times. We have been feed allot of bad and misleading information from the previous directors of this company. We as stock holders are invested in this company as we want to see it succeed. We all had a vision and a hope for this company and we are still clinging to the possibilities that this company can have under the proper guidance.

I have seen your appointment as the new CEO of this company as a glimmer of hope that we will once again have a chance at seeing our vision and hopes for this company flourish.

Thank You for taking the time to read this letter, and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

Rodney Hurlbert
 
Posted by sneither on :
 
Good Letter ((((Rod)))
Should I be nervous? I smell a r/s coming?
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
here is a letter that i have sent to mr Lloyd Fan. hopefully he will answer

Rod
Very nice. Thanks. Let us know if you get any response. [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
No doubt Frank got a huge severance package on us.

pink parachute
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i have also sent that letter to the following people

'kristien*prioritypr.net'; 'jim*prioritypr.net'; 'Staff*EquityRelations.com'

hopefully one of them will forward this letter to mr fan

Rod
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Thanks PT, thats a good letter. I hope he answers it.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ty i hope he does to.

but as i say he has a big job ahead of him and answering a share holder is more then likely very low on his priority list.

i will not be completely offended if he doesnt.

but will be greatly thrilled if he does

Rod
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneither:
Good Letter ((((Rod)))
Should I be nervous? I smell a r/s coming?
[Eek!]

I agree; that was a good letter Rod. Hopefully Mr. Fan will consider the longs as you have asked him to.

I also think we have a 95% chance of a R/S in the near future as the previous PRs saying there would not be a R/S said that it would not happen while the present management was in place—and as we all know, we have a completely new management team now.

GLTA [Smile]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yes Rod, the key thing you mentioned was "damage control" or rather damage repair. HUGE HURDLE!...it's going to be so time consuming.

Wow...this guy is gonna be busy.

This, together with the GG preparations, is sure to be nothing less than an 800 lb. gorilla.

I too will give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him all the luck.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Hey David J....is this the information you were waiting on? Did you sell any of your QBID before this?

I sure hope this goes well for us. Glad that Frank isn't leading the ship anymore.

Milliam
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
howdy all. i was just reading the last few pages of the old thread and this new one we have, before i decided what to do on the ? of buying more qbid shares. i know we needed to get rid of franky that is for sure and it is good that he is leaving this scene but i am deeply dissapointed in the fact that he wasnt able to pull this off. now my greatest fear is a huge reverse split to the tune of 25,000 or more for one share. nothing has been said or done yet so i am not trying to spark panic in anyone but it really bothers me that now that we do have new management a reverse split is in my humble opinion very likely.

like i have said in the past im in this till we are up big or till bust so i am not selling any of my shares but i was going to buy another ten mil today and have decided it was unwise to until we see how this pans out. best of luck to you all it certainly has been a fun and exciting ride and who knows maybe one day we will be rewarded for our efforts and patience.

now in regards to frank if any of you are having feelings of i am gonna get him. please try to use the philosophy of the universe is fair and just and in time he will suffer his fair amount for the pain he has cuased so many with his lies and deceitfulness. i can thankfully say that im glad im not walking in his shoes he doesnt look like a healthy man physically or emotionally. his dream may actually get pulled off by this mr. fan time will tell but for franky i wish him well as i know he has lots of pain and suffering ahead of him due to his actions.

ok sorry for the long post i just needed to get some words out of me as i am truly very very dissapointed at how this has been panning out.

best of luck to everyone.

sincerely your qbidiot.

40 million long. [Frown]
 
Posted by Rtrng at 45 on :
 
anyone think a r/s is in our future now?
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
I BOUGHT 5 million more shares!! QBID RULES
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Yea, that's a good idea...lets go ahead and start pestering the new CEO with emails and certified letters, phone calls, visits etc.. lol.
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
DJ is full of crapola...

quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Hey David J....is this the information you were waiting on? Did you sell any of your QBID before this?

I sure hope this goes well for us. Glad that Frank isn't leading the ship anymore.

Milliam


 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
don't post much.
don't post opinions much.
don't go ot much.
don't protect this company, stock, or frank olsen from the facts.

i do post relevent research.
with links.
you never have to take my word on it--or the company's...or frank's.
you can read the information and draw your own conclusions.
as thinking, reasoning adults.


all these jokers are connected.


what happens with LBS, NTI?

olsen, Velderdita and Shintaku are officers at
Valcom, LBS, NTI, Gulf States Holding
...posted January 25, 2006 15:04


Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry,

wonder if there will still be a Pittera connection...


deleted posted that this is new on pink sheets the other day...

Access TradeOne.com CIK: 0001096018

ACCESS TRADEONE.COM, INC. PS Com ($0.001) (New) ACST

http://www.pinksheets.com/companysearch/ps_list.jsp?sletter=A&nump=2


Access TradeOne.com was involved with the development of its 24 hour financial network, which will broadcast global financial news both on television and over the company's Internet global trading system.


Pittera is president of Access TradeOne.com
Pittera is counsel to ValCom, Inc.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345303000044/0001013453-03-000044.txt

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345304000042/0001013453-04-000042.txt


delete me if you want, i'm just passing on the information. you don't want it here, that's up to you.
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Not sure how that connects everything, Crimson.
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
don't post much.
don't post opinions much.
don't go ot much.
don't protect this company, stock, or frank olsen from the facts.

i do post relevent research.
with links.
you never have to take my word on it--or the company's...or frank's.
you can read the information and draw your own conclusions.
as thinking, reasoning adults.


all these jokers are connected.


what happens with LBS, NTI?

olsen, Velderdita and Shintaku are officers at
Valcom, LBS, NTI, Gulf States Holding
...posted January 25, 2006 15:04


Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry,

wonder if there will still be a Pittera connection...


deleted posted that this is new on pink sheets the other day...

Access TradeOne.com CIK: 0001096018

ACCESS TRADEONE.COM, INC. PS Com ($0.001) (New) ACST

http://www.pinksheets.com/companysearch/ps_list.jsp?sletter=A&nump=2


Access TradeOne.com was involved with the development of its 24 hour financial network, which will broadcast global financial news both on television and over the company's Internet global trading system.


Pittera is president of Access TradeOne.com
Pittera is counsel to ValCom, Inc.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345303000044/0001013453-03-000044.txt

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345304000042/0001013453-04-000042.txt


delete me if you want, i'm just passing on the information. you don't want it here, that's up to you.

so KC...give me a scenario or 2 on the link of the players involved in these companies.

give me something to digest...if you want you can pm the info or email
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no this is good info King im sure they will leave it here.

have you tied in any connection to Fan?

Rod
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Q Television Network Appoints Lloyd Fan to Role of Interim President

February 27, 2006 15:28:04 (ET)

Feb 27, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Effective immediately, Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (QBID, Trade) has proudly appointed Mr. Lloyd Fan as Interim president of Q Television Network.

Lloyd Fan and his partners bring many years of achievement in corporate finance, strategic growth initiatives, OEM manufacturing, international trade and product direct-distribution. Through Best Prop Holding Group -- which owns Pat Prod Productions and Patented Product Industries -- his successes include renowned companies like Sharper Image, Brookstone, Restoration Hardware, IKEA, Targets Stores, Wal-Mart, JC Penny, Coleman, LL Bean, QVC and many more. Coming from a manufacturing and engineering background, Mr. Fan has played a major role in commercializing some 200 patents worldwide. With a proud and proven track record, Mr. Fan is highly respected in the financial, manufacturing and service sector throughout Asia.

With a long-standing interest in finding an entertainment and distribution platform partner with a strong brand and loyalty within the GLBT community, Mr. Fan and his group considered QTN's success in connecting to this market. QTN's growing distribution model and direct connection to its customer base complements both entities' plans to expand the network's offerings to include additional entertainment services and consumer products targeted to the GLBT community in the U.S. and worldwide.

"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."

About Q Television Network:

This 24/7, premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.

The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(R) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.

Safe Harbor Statement

As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

Contacts:
QTN Media Relations
Kristien Brada-Thompson Jim Strzalkowski
Priority Public Relations Priority Public Relations
(818) 338-3555 x224 (818) 338-3555 x222
kristien*prioritypr.net jim*prioritypr.net
QTN Investor Relations
Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc
(617) 314-7379
Staff*EquityRelations.com
SOURCE Q Television Network

Media Relations, Kristien Brada-Thompson, ext. 224, kristien*prioritypr.net, or Jim
Strzalkowski, ext. 222, jim*prioritypr.net, both of Priority Public Relations,
+1-818-338-3555, for Q Television Network; or Investor Relations, Richard Brown of
Equity Relations, Inc, +1-617-314-7379, Staff*EquityRelations.com, for Q Television
Network

http://www.prnewswire.com

Copyright (C) 2006 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
 
Posted by akalooker on :
 
Ok!!! "IT" happened, exactly what everyone has said they have been praying, wanting, waiting, and wishing for, for over a year plus, a new CEO to run this company!!!

I'm more than a little concerned about "Every one" of the board of Directors and Officers of Triangle Multi-Media and QTN being gone though.

I know some of you will say this is absolutely a great thing, but who's in place with the knowledge about all of the things that have been accomplished to this date and will be able to continue the guidance of QTN?

The PR says "All, have resigned their positions and have relinguished ALL responsibilities and affiliations".

Is it even possible for Fan to have his hands around this monster, this quick. How can there be a comfort level in all of them washing their hands of TMM and QTN completely?

This could be exceptionally great news, or exceptionally bad news that ALL are gone!

I'm very interested to hear the various opinions on how this will affect QTN and us as investors!

I guess time will tell, I've been here for almost 2 years along with many, many others, believing and backing Frank Olsen's dream, and hoping that mine and all of the long term investors dreams would come true.

I'm Just a small investor compared to many of you, "God help Jenncd10". I have paper lost for the time being a little more $12,000 to date. Unless QTN goes Bankrupt or Fan reverse splits this thing into oblivian, then it will be actual losses right along with everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel for those that may have invested more than they should have or invested their life savings. How about those of us who believed and talked our friends and family members into investing in this?

So much for the promises that appear to be for the most part undelivered on, or have been out right blatant lies! Ya that pony took us for a ride!!!!! Just read my tag line and you'll know exactly how I feel.

Well to the business at hand as the QBID World spins faster and faster and faster!

How about it Doc, Imak, and DJ, the three people with more knowledge about the inside workings of QTN than most of us put together due to their visiting QTN, they have up until this point, chosen not to speak of the things they know, were told and saw.

Frank and crew no longer exist, so no loyalties and no commitments by any of you to QTN or Frank Olsen should remain. So please share with us what you say you couldn't or chose not to for fear of ramifications before.

This is not an attack on anyone, Sooooo, don't even go there, I'm not a basher and never have been, I have never attacked anyone nor called anyone out. I personally chose to ride this plane wreck to the ground, when I could have bailed out and saved myself long ago!

Now that Frank and his gang of despirado's are gone, there should be abolutely NO REASON that these three people cannot reveal the truth about "EVERYTHING" they saw, heard, were told and promised!!!

I and I'm sure many, many others that have followed, trusted and believed in what these three people have said for a long time would really like to hear the information that was given to them or they aquired while visiting the studios.

I respectfully ask the three of you to share everything you know that you couldn't share with us before.

I will now remit the floor to the three of you and
listen intently.

Looker, who's now a listener!
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Frank isn't gone....
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."

 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no this is good info King im sure they will leave it here.

have you tied in any connection to Fan?

Rod

still looking....
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."

why don't you use todays PR, instead of last weeks????
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
IM selling the softcover for 25.99 and the hardcover for 39.99 let me know, sorry cash payment only, paypal is fine. Qtv Behind the Glass.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Gordon that is last months pr read today's

it says:

Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations

the word ALL is pretty obvious that they are all gone. None is the opposite to all. some is not even considered here. any would not be appropriate either.

it looks to me that none have retained any position, from the wording of this.

This Fan deal has been in the works since the end of the audit in October, as far as im concerned.

Fan has some idea where this has to go, and how he is going to do it.

he does not seem like a man that would throw that kind of money into the ring without having a plan, and a plan to back up the plan.

As was mentioned before, Frank was working with our money, Fan is throwing his own money at this.

he is not about to loose it in my opinion.

we know next to nothing about this man, all we know is he has his own money at risk, which is something that we should feel good about.

Frank had nothing to loose and everything to gain, so no worries as to how this unfolds. Fan on the other hand has a vested interest, and will have to make this work out or loose his investment.

the only thing we dont know is if we are going to be rewarded for our investments, or if we are going to be thrown to the wolves.

time will tell and i look forward to his first communications to us as to his intentions and his commitments to us.

we can only hope for the best and be prepared for the worst. I do feel though that we are in better shape then we where yesterday.

Frank had no options left in my opinion but to get out or fold. fortunately for us he got out and because of that we are not dead in the water yet.

this is all in my honest opinion. i do not suggest anyone buy in or increase thier positions until the new game plan is laid out for us.

Good luck to everyone, today is the beginning of a new road in the world of QBID. lets hope this one is much smoother and an uphill run. that last road we just turned off of was a very long bumpy hill that i hope we can stay off of from here on out.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."


 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Monkey, that title sounds disturbingly like a peep show! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Hey gotta bait the hook HOSS,LOL
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Now watch'em squirm! LOL
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
It would appear that way Doc.

either that or Fan bought more then Frank was aware of and took a controling interest in the company with out Frank knowing it.

this allmost looks like a hostile take over and Frank got screwed out of the company. this pr is made to save a bit of face for Frank.

agian this is only speculation, i have nothing to back this up on.

but someone has been buying a shiitload of shares since October and many many many times we have asked "who is buying all these shares"

i think now we may have an answer.

I hope to god that this guy is going to make things better for us all.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought [Big Grin]


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
For the faithful longs here that refuse to damn Frank as he steps down, I commend you for your respect. Yeah, he wasn't the best CEO but he has brought us this far.

I can go on and on about the positive things he has done for QTN/TMM but I won't. We already know.

With that said, there is one thing I would like to mention. As much as we appreciate the things Frank has done for us, there are people on this thread that have shared good and informative information that has been equally appreciated.

But unfortunately, due to our spiral thats caused so much frustration (understandable but not necessarily technically justified), the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde syndrome of some posters here has seperated a few longtime freinds on this thread.

PT, MT, Doc, Whiz, KC, Sam, Suz, Lil, Imak, Wangdo and many more, have all contributed great information. And why?...because they care enough to share that information with everyone else to benefit as well.

Well....atleast it used to be that way. In fact, there was a time when this thread was probably the best QBID thread throughout all the other websites.

We are practically starting with a clean slate here. So lets all agree that there have been some of you that have been both wrong and right.

Agreed?...yes, definately!

Lets get back to the way things were before. And this spat about the date on "The Advocate" is ridiculous and uncalled for.

Come on guys. Lets all shake hands. We have a new CEO!...a clean slate. Lets quit all this squabbling and get back to being the envy of all other QBID threads. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
wow just heard that Dana Reeves (supermans wife) died today of lung cancer.

that is sad.

Rod
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i agree QBID'n

clean slate new day new game, now lets get the old DD diggers out here and find out what we can on this new CEO.

Rod
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
So does anyone think, asking for the audit is out of the question? lol!

Well, if Frankie the Fraud sold QTN/QBID, he lied to us once again, because he told QBID shareholders that when he sold that would be entitled to sell proceeds... Unless Loyd worked out a hostile take over, then it would seem that Frankie boy fiannly got shaft (no pun intended).

At this point, how much worse can it get? We can't sell this POS anyway. I personnally am looking forward to re a R/S. IMO there is NO other way to get the PPS back when there is 350B O/S
 
Posted by Marva18 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought [Big Grin]

Didn't say other networks like BET were sold for billions and his film library is worth so much!!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Sure would like to see MT and Doc shake hands though. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Marva18 on :
 
THE REASON MR. FAN TOOK OVER!!!

Frank wants to start a Native-American network.
Who co-stars with Indians ==> Cowboys.
Gay Cowboy Movie "Brokeback Mountain" directed by Asian.
Mr. Fan is Asian.

See how this all adds up.
If you do, please let me know!!!lol
 
Posted by Marva18 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Sure would like to see MT and Doc shake hands though. [Big Grin]

How about a cage match??
Q could film it, "Q Shareholders on the Move"
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its fine if things are worth so much, but if your debts are higher then your worth, then it really means nothing.

the bottom line is a big fat O

you make the decision if i ment the letter O or a number zero [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Marva18 on :
 
I heard LOGO is filming a documentary of Q's collapse!!


NOT
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
you really should be more serious. [Roll Eyes]


quote:
Originally posted by Marva18:
I heard LOGO is filming a documentary of Q's collapse!!


NOT


 
Posted by Marva18 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
its fine if things are worth so much, but if your debts are higher then your worth, then it really means nothing.

the bottom line is a big fat O

you make the decision if i ment the letter O or a number zero [Big Grin]

In reality I think Frank said, "lets be out there at all of the parties and events, create lots of with-it live shows and hopefully this will bring in the subscribers"
The sad fact is that these carriers take so long to decide and have so much clout.
Silicon Valley start-ups also take low pay and stock options and work for many years for a big payoff. At least Q has contracts and a product.
We haven't heard boo from the carriers, no broken contracts yet.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
QBIDn - I must have missed something, but what the hell has Frankie the Fraud "...done for us?" The only thing I can figure out is that he has managed to take our money to build his dream (wetdream in his words) lie and break QBID shareholder promises. Again, I ask what has he done for us? I think I may have missed something.

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
For the faithful longs here that refuse to damn Frank as he steps down, I commend you for your respect. Yeah, he wasn't the best CEO but he has brought us this far.

I can go on and on about the positive things he has done for QTN/TMM but I won't. We already know.

With that said, there is one thing I would like to mention. As much as we appreciate the things Frank has done for us, there are people on this thread that have shared good and informative information that has been equally appreciated.

But unfortunately, due to our spiral thats caused so much frustration (understandable but not necessarily technically justified), the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde syndrome of some posters here has seperated a few longtime freinds on this thread.

PT, MT, Doc, Whiz, KC, Sam, Suz, Lil, Imak, Wangdo and many more, have all contributed great information. And why?...because they care enough to share that information with everyone else to benefit as well.

Well....atleast it used to be that way. In fact, there was a time when this thread was probably the best QBID thread throughout all the other websites.

We are practically starting with a clean slate here. So lets all agree that there have been some of you that have been both wrong and right.

Agreed?...yes, definately!

Lets get back to the way things were before. And this spat about the date on "The Advocate" is ridiculous and uncalled for.

Come on guys. Lets all shake hands. We have a new CEO!...a clean slate. Lets quit all this squabbling and get back to being the envy of all other QBID threads. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod

try lloydf*qtelevision.com

That was the format of the other email addresses...

(franko, carolh, etc)
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
i really hope this thing doesn't reverse, i hope mr. fan has a good model for this american company
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Dew-it.

need i remind you that he has got the channel up and running in 16 cities, a telephony deal and a dvd out to the shareholders?

these are all promises that he made and kept.

he has kept many many of his promises, there are others that he missed on but many are things that where beyond his control.

yes there where promises broke, but that is the way business is.

many businesses start out with the intention of fulfilling all its plans. the thing is Frank brought us to this point.

he could have bail out long ago and left us holding a bag. he could have fold and went bankrupt, but he didn't do that either.

No one is happy with where we are and yes Frank may be responsible for this, but he has not completely screwed us like he could have.

we are still alive and have a new injection of hope here and for this we can thank Frank for not taking the easy way out and filing chapter 11.

get over your problems here and either get out or contribute to dd to find out what we may expect from our new CEO

Rod
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
Gay TV network faces money crisis
QTN names new CEO, as staffers claim they are not being paid
By GREG MARZULLO | Mar 7, 3:42 PM

Q Television Network, one of three national gay and lesbian TV cable channels, announced March 7 that it is replacing its chief executive officer, amid accusations from at least one on-air personality that he has not been paid.

Lloyd Fan, who served as interim president, will take over as QTN’s new chair and CEO succeeding founding CEO Frank Olsen, according to a news release. Officials from QTN declined to comment, deferring to the release.

‘The people that worked on my show have not been paid,’ says Jack E. Jett, host of QTN show ‘Queer Edge.’ ‘I haven't gotten a check in two months.’ (Photo courtesy of QTN)


The release also states that QTN is undergoing a companywide overhaul, including the creation of an entirely new board of directors and the replacement of QTN officers. All board members were relieved of their responsibilities as of March 7.

In early February, QTN laid off much of its production staff and filming stopped for a week. Although production resumed shortly thereafter, paychecks have still gone unpaid, according to Jack E. Jett, co-host of QTN's pop culture show "Queer Edge."

"The people that worked on my show have not been paid," Jett says. "I haven't gotten a check in two months."

A recent statement issued from the company's then-CEO Olsen stated that the entire company was being restructured.

"This could take 3-4 weeks, but everyone will be paid and brought up to date," read the statement. "We deeply regret any inconvenience or hardship this has caused our staff and the gay community."

Jett said the missed paychecks created financial difficulties for his young production team members.

"These kids are living with mom, working off debts," he said. "Some people were not able to pay bills or buy groceries."

Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-media Limited, launched in September 2004. The station is available to the public through subscription and programming runs 24 hours every day. The channel is available through Cox, RCN, Time Warner and Bright House networks in Birmingham, Ala., Eureka, Calif., San Diego, Calif., San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and all of Massachusetts, and through satellite with C-Band Intelsat. Both Cox and RCN are minority cable providers in D.C. and northern Virginia. Comcast, the area's major provider, does not carry the channel.

The station airs gay- and lesbian-related movies, documentaries, news programming and human interest shows. QTN is also the official network of Gay Games VII that take place in Chicago during July.

http://www.sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=5457


hmm, 3-4 weeks, doesnt sound too bad
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
good point i will do that right now

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod

try lloydf*qtelevision.com

That was the format of the other email addresses...

(franko, carolh, etc)


 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
Mr. Fan, a major investor??


Q TV Net Top Management Ousted

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/7/2006 12:39:00 PM

There has been a big management shakeup at gay and lesbian network Q TV Nework (QTN).

Major investor Lloyd Fan, who was recently brought on as president, has been named chairman and CEO of QTN and parent Triangle Multi-Media, replacing company founder Frank Olsen.

But Fan has gone farther. After doing due dilligence on the company, according to a source, he is replacing the board and top management--above VP level--as well, with at least three executives, including Olsen and the company's COO and CFO, said to be heading for the exit.

"Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations," the company said in a statement. "Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming."

Click here!
The move is effective immediately, and the now-Fan-run company says that "the current and moving-forward financial obligations of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN are also being vigorously reviewed, and a fresh approach to resolving these situations will be announced in the coming weeks."

Q has been making some progress convincing cable systems to offer the channel as a pay service and claims carriage on properties reaching 3 million homes. However, it’s not clear how many subscribers have actually ordered the channel.

Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny.

A spoksewoman for the company says that Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group, which has built a business in the manufacturing, financing and service sectors in Asia.
 
Posted by bige2533 on :
 
Doesn't QTN sound like Pridevision? Frank turned it into a financial disaster and now someone else is getting it cheap.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Dew-it.

need i remind you that he has got the channel up and running in 16 cities, a telephony deal and a dvd out to the shareholders?

these are all promises that he made and kept.

he has kept many many of his promises, there are others that he missed on but many are things that where beyond his control.

yes there where promises broke, but that is the way business is.

many businesses start out with the intention of fulfilling all its plans. the thing is Frank brought us to this point.

he could have bail out long ago and left us holding a bag. he could have fold and went bankrupt, but he didn't do that either.

No one is happy with where we are and yes Frank may be responsible for this, but he has not completely screwed us like he could have.

we are still alive and have a new injection of hope here and for this we can thank Frank for not taking the easy way out and filing chapter 11.

get over your problems here and either get out or contribute to dd to find out what we may expect from our new CEO

Rod


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 

 
Posted by mikensay on :
 
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.
 
Posted by U4TSAF2 on :
 
PER FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN:

"WE HAVE BEEN OFFERED 1-BILLION DOLLARS"

BUT WE KNOW IT'S WORTH MORE.

SHAREHOLDERS WILL BE PAID!

LOL
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no go on that address either.

hopefully the investor relations will forward this message to him for me.


Your message has encountered delivery problems
to the following recipient(s):

lloydf*qtelevision.com
(Was addressed to lloydf*qtelevision.com)
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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I am not trying to sparr with you... If you want to belive that Frankie the fraud has done great things for you, than that is fine, but I dont' think you can speak for everyone here. Frankie the Fraud has not done NOTHING for me... I dont care that we have few states that air QTN or that we have Charo on some goofy show.... I invested money into QBID to make money, not see Frankie boy's dream realized or not. At this point the only thing that Frankie the fraud has done to me is take my money AND

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes he is. and i believe he proved his point with this one.

he took a shell and tuned it into a company that someone was willing to buy into.

you bought in didn't you?

and Mr Fan sees potential in this thing.

Frank is tired, and a very sick man. he has done well in my opinion to get us as far as he has.


I beleive a couple months ago Frank told David Janis that this was up for sale.

looks like to me that David was the one that filled us in on this before anyone else knew that it was up for sale.

Frank is out, Fan is in, now lets give it some time to see how he handles this.

he obviously has a plan and that is why he bought in.

now all we can do is sit back an wait to see what the plan is.

no one knows if it is good or bad so please do not sell yourselves as knowing what is going to happen here.

anyone that claims knowledge of what is going to happen should not be listened to, as there is no inside info from this company.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
NO. His speciality is lying and scamming QBID shareholders out of millions of dollars. lol!

quote:
Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Dew we still have a chance. And all I'm saying is that if it wasn't for Frank we wouldn't have that chance, thats all.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
PT,

DJ did not predict jack...Frankie the fraud told us during the 2004 and 2005 CC that his intention was to sell QTN (I thought we all knew that) and that we would be entitled to sales proceed. If he has sold - where is our part. Show me da money!


quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
yes he is. and i believe he proved his point with this one.

he took a shell and tuned it into a company that someone was willing to buy into.

you bought in didn't you?

and Mr Fan sees potential in this thing.

Frank is tired, and a very sick man. he has done well in my opinion to get us as far as he has.


I beleive a couple months ago Frank told David Janis that this was up for sale.

looks like to me that David was the one that filled us in on this before anyone else knew that it was up for sale.

Frank is out, Fan is in, now lets give it some time to see how he handles this.

he obviously has a plan and that is why he bought in.

now all we can do is sit back an wait to see what the plan is.

no one knows if it is good or bad so please do not sell yourselves as knowing what is going to happen here.

anyone that claims knowledge of what is going to happen should not be listened to, as there is no inside info from this company.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.



 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD [Smile] I LOVE QBID NOW [Smile]

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Well Dew-it this is the stock market and you should know that there is no guaranties.

if you cant afford to loose money then you should not be investing in the pennies. or the stock market at all for that matter.

there are no guaranties, and to go off and spout about how you where screwed is just childish.

again point is, this is not dead yet.

you can either hold out and hope for the best or sell and cut your losses at this point.

crying will not bring your money back.

you are not special, we all have money here that has dwindled to this point. be a grown up about it and either accept your loss and move on or stay here and look for a chance to get your investment back.

you cant change what has happened in the past, you can only effect what your future may hold out.


now i suggest that you spend your efforts on determining what you are going to do for you future and stop looking at the past that you can not change.

your an adult? right?

then lets act like adults and not children.

Children cry and stomp. Adults look for a solution and rationalise things out.

my rationalising tells me that i cant effect what has happened, only what is about to happen.

You need to make up your mind right now. cry over spilt milk, or look at how you are going to replace that spilt milk.

are you going to be a child or an adult? the choice is up to you.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
I am not trying to sparr with you... If you want to belive that Frankie the fraud has done great things for you, than that is fine, but I dont' think you can speak for everyone here. Frankie the Fraud has not done NOTHING for me... I dont care that we have few states that air QTN or that we have Charo on some goofy show.... I invested money into QBID to make money, not see Frankie boy's dream realized or not. At this point the only thing that Frankie the fraud has done to me is take my money AND

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient. [Big Grin]



 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I'll bite,What did you find out the other day redgurl?????????
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
well, frankie is outta the picture...it cant get any worse, IMO. Lets hope Loyd can turn this around without further srewing us.

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Dew we still have a chance. And all I'm saying is that if it wasn't for Frank we wouldn't have that chance, thats all.


 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD [Smile] I LOVE QBID NOW [Smile]

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........

Redgurl, hmmm...im sniffin a liar. you lieing redgurl [Wink]

LMAO
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Now thats more like it Dew!

Doesn't hurt to vent does it? lol [Big Grin]
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months [Smile]

No further comments.
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Why would you buy at .0002 and be excited when you can buy twice as much at .0001????
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
lol MT be nice lol
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Redgurl or Redneckgurl? j/k lol [Big Grin]
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
Dont know , just happy [Smile]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months [Smile]

No further comments.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH, not to shoot a harpoon thru your credibility old gurl but awww..ummm..

how do i say this lightly....

The ask is .0001. 7MM stacked high. probably about 150B sitting there.

You blatenly lied about buying at .0002. How is anyone to believe that you know something, when the first post we see you lie? [Big Grin]

good tryin gurl
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Oh.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
redgurl, is that you dj? nah im j/k im just glad people are actually investing this stock, i have avged down .0002, so i guess we will see what happens
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Why would you buy at .0002 and be excited when you can buy twice as much at .0001????

LMAO..exactly, point being, shes lieing. you cant even buy at .0002. you put a limit for .0002 and they fill you at .0001. or in fact, ive seen many including noah who are now getting filled at .00008.
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
I did buy at 0.0002
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
.0002 must be nice...$6000 more would get me there. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yep!!!...Redneckgurl it is!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
We know that MT i wanted to let her talk a bit more before we blew her story out of the water lol

she is stating to be from Canada, how would she know more then anyone else.

im well connected in my oppinion and i did not see this one coming right now.

Im going to give Frank a call, but i honestly dont think he will be able to tell me anything.

plain and simple as i stated before, there is no inside info out here

Rod
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
PER FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN:

"WE HAVE BEEN OFFERED 1-BILLION DOLLARS"

BUT WE KNOW IT'S WORTH MORE.

SHAREHOLDERS WILL BE PAID!

LOL

Frank's gone.
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
I did buy at 0.0002

But seriously, WHY?????????????? Sorry, no offense, but that sounds really dumb. Again, no offence meant by that.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
im just wondering what you found out (redgurl) that came true, hey i bet if u fill us in then we will buy more shares and help boost the stock price...
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no go on that address either.

hopefully the investor relations will forward this message to him for me.


Your message has encountered delivery problems
to the following recipient(s):

lloydf*qtelevision.com
(Was addressed to lloydf*qtelevision.com)
Delivery failed
550 lloydf*qtelevision.com unknown user account


No recipients were successfully delivered to.

apparently an address at qtnasia.com worked... I'll see if I can find the exact address...

Uwlungman from IHub reached him that way...
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months [Smile]

No further comments.

Just shut up already.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Last time I checked... I thought this was a bulletin board, where one can post their opinions, bitches, gripes, predictions, BS DD, thoughts etc. I understand the risks of investing, especially in the pinks and no offense, but I do not need your unsolicted avdice or suggestions on what I should or should not do with my wortheless shares (child or adult?). I am not blaming you or anyone else on this board for the current PPS. My point is that some here (and you know who you are) refuse to hear anything negative about Frankie the Fraud. I cannot convince you that he is POS CEO and you cannot convince me that he is the best thing since Forbes. So on that not, lets hope Loyd can do a better job.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Well Dew-it this is the stock market and you should know that there is no guaranties.

if you cant afford to loose money then you should not be investing in the pennies. or the stock market at all for that matter.

there are no guaranties, and to go off and spout about how you where screwed is just childish.

again point is, this is not dead yet.

you can either hold out and hope for the best or sell and cut your losses at this point.

crying will not bring your money back.

you are not special, we all have money here that has dwindled to this point. be a grown up about it and either accept your loss and move on or stay here and look for a chance to get your investment back.

you cant change what has happened in the past, you can only effect what your future may hold out.


now i suggest that you spend your efforts on determining what you are going to do for you future and stop looking at the past that you can not change.

your an adult? right?

then lets act like adults and not children.

Children cry and stomp. Adults look for a solution and rationalise things out.

my rationalising tells me that i cant effect what has happened, only what is about to happen.

You need to make up your mind right now. cry over spilt milk, or look at how you are going to replace that spilt milk.

are you going to be a child or an adult? the choice is up to you.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
I am not trying to sparr with you... If you want to belive that Frankie the fraud has done great things for you, than that is fine, but I dont' think you can speak for everyone here. Frankie the Fraud has not done NOTHING for me... I dont care that we have few states that air QTN or that we have Charo on some goofy show.... I invested money into QBID to make money, not see Frankie boy's dream realized or not. At this point the only thing that Frankie the fraud has done to me is take my money AND

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient. [Big Grin]




 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
no ,

USXP was **** , volume was low.
Everyone picked on me.
Peeople said its a **** stock.
But wow.
Look at it now.
and more to come.

in part 2 of my life..............
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Redgurl and Leo go back and edit out the !!!!!

it is screwing up the page

thanks
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(

red
Until you get to know each regular poster here, just ignore most comments ... and assume the rest are friendly joking. Stick around. We're actually a decent group ... just a bit odd at times. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
I did buy at 0.0002

LMAO. ahahhaha

oh, well,,,,thanks redgurl.
sorry to question you, i belive you now that you said it like that.
LMAO

no really, congrats though on USXP, great great mover, maybe the best of the year.
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
Ahhh, I'm listening to this Bela Fleck song right now... It's ridiculous....
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Ahhh, I'm listening to this Bela Fleck song right now... It's ridiculous....

I hear that MJ, some good music from Bela and his Flecktones.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Redgurl, I don't have anything against you. I just hope you're really a girl. Posting on this thread has lead to questionable identities.
Stick around, come when you please.

quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I think "Fan of QBID?" is a perfect title. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no one is saying that Frank was a great CEO. all im saying is he has not completely screwed us, and the game is not over.

lets get Frank behind us, we cant change the fact that we all decided to stay against our better judgements.

we are all in the same boat, and lets work together to get some new info on our new CEO.

Yes this is a board for discussion, the point is lets stop worrying about what has happened but more so about what is about to happen.

no good will come from crying about the past.

we have to live in the present, and the present has us with a new CEO and a whole new outlook on things.

we now know that we are not about to go bankrupt in the near future. we are however faced with the good possibility of a R/S and a potential new direction with the company.

can we expect to see a return from this, or are we in for a major let down.

Rod
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
who knows, maybe he will retire a bunch of shares, and buyback a ton, release the audit, or maybe its all a dream, only time will tell, can't wait till we get a shareholder report though from mr. fan
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Kewl. You are right "we are all in the same boat" Lets hope for a miracle and hope things get better with Loyd and forget about the Frankie boy.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no one is saying that Frank was a great CEO. all im saying is he has not completely screwed us, and the game is not over.

lets get Frank behind us, we cant change the fact that we all decided to stay against our better judgements.

we are all in the same boat, and lets work together to get some new info on our new CEO.

Yes this is a board for discussion, the point is lets stop worrying about what has happened but more so about what is about to happen.

no good will come from crying about the past.

we have to live in the present, and the present has us with a new CEO and a whole new outlook on things.

we now know that we are not about to go bankrupt in the near future. we are however faced with the good possibility of a R/S and a potential new direction with the company.

can we expect to see a return from this, or are we in for a major let down.

Rod


 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
At this point , i'm glad that something is happening. At least we got to hear an update. And its time for this stock to take a turn one way or another in my opinion. Hopefully a profitable one of course.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Thanks for the unsolicited advice... BTW, it is retard not retart, Einstein. It must have been a Freudian slip, I’m sure. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by poopatystock:
listen all you retarts wake up and smell the coffey !!!! the old man said that he will not do a reverse split as long as he is ceo. Now the company can do one and you cant get him into trouble!! so,get ready to lose all your shares!!!! So to sum it all up, all these years that straight people have been making fun of fags is coming back to bite you in the gays favorit place!!! [Eek!] [Razz] [Razz]


 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD [Smile] I LOVE QBID NOW [Smile]

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........

are you at liberty to say what you found out? and also if you dont mind me asking why didnt you bid .0001 i have had no problems getting filled on that price and also once got filled for .00009. just a thought but if you could share i would love to hear as i have cash on the sideline and if your info seems reasonable i would love to pick up another 10-20 million shares. thanx and good luck.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point. [Big Grin]

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
well thats always good to hear [Smile]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
And the saga continues. New chapter new verse. Got my write off and hold 5 mil cheap. If I loose it, oh well. Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride ( as Terry corrected me (Betty Davis)).
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Thanks Doc.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by poopatystock:
listen all you retarts wake up and smell the coffey !!!! the old man said that he will not do a reverse split as long as he is ceo. Now the company can do one and you cant get him into trouble!! so,get ready to lose all your shares!!!! So to sum it all up, all these years that straight people have been making fun of fags is coming back to bite you in the gays favorit place!!! [Eek!] [Razz] [Razz]

San Francisco?
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Any ideas why the trading numbers went negative today???
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
poopatystock please give something relevent to qbid dew-it is frustrated like the rest of us and is im sure if you dont mind me speaking just trying to cope with all the lies and pps spiraling that has occurred.

also i would like to say to all on this message board that a persons sexual preference is their own choice and whether we aggree with how they choose or not we should always remember to remain human towards eachother in the face of a disagreement. i am not a person who partakes in glbt activities in any way but i can assure you that if you feel that being glbt is so wrong take a hard look at your own life and activities and tell me that you are not ashamed of any part of your own lives.

thanx again for all of you hearing my posts and please let us try to remain civil as we sort of are a family now until qbid do us part. or bring us together in vegas yeah...........

tonight ill have blueberrychocolate cheesecake jen heheehe.
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi Hoss, will be back in the big sandersbox again this week. YeHa.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
LOL Hey Fly, I am actually heading out to Dallas Texas for the weekend.
I'm glad to see some life back in this board! Gotta get my .0001's worth of entertainment! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
I agree. Have fun in Teja. Rumor it I am heading to Reno in a few. Utah was fun after the meetings and snow mobiling.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Cool. That sounds pretty awesome. Let me know when you are back in town for a weekend, we still need to hook up for a beer.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I have absolutely no clue what you just posted...but I will assume that you are making a very feable attempt to give "us" investment words of wisdom. So on my behalf, Thanks!
[Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by poopatystock:
ok dew it or dew-him what evr u are! looks like your going to take where the sun dont shine (not the way u normaly do obviously) when they do a rs on all u dreamers and pumpers. IS that why your so bitter dew-him!Your own kind gona give it to ya! ha ha. [Eek!] [Big Grin] [Mad]


 
Posted by firefly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Cool. That sounds pretty awesome. Let me know when you are back in town for a weekend, we still need to hook up for a beer.

Sounds good.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
lol! you aint right...

quote:
Originally posted by poopatystock:
look, i wasnt looking to hurt any one homo or not homo.


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Just let him rant Dew. Seriously, just let him rant.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Alrighty... time to go do something creative. Lets hope for some good news this week. GLTA

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Just let him rant Dew. Seriously, just let him rant.


 
Posted by poopatystock on :
 
19,987,600m long!!wow! let me see,after a nice big 1000 to 1 revers split what number will you be braging about? I wish i had my calculator.IT may be 19,987.6 im not sure. wish i can help ya. Sorry. [Confused]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
http://sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=5457
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Old news neighbor...but good eye. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Old news but new provider [Wink]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
How you been?
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Great, working hard. Too many planes and cars lately. How about you neighbor?
We need to get together with Hoss for a drink.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Sounds good. Man you get around don't you?
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Too much, Get home dig out and do it again.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Doctoall,where did you hear about the meeting?

Thanks Rich
 
Posted by Marty on :
 
Wow.....haven't been around for awhile....told ya Rod you'd like the DR [Wink] Nice place....new interum President? huh.....restructuring just around the corner it would seem....the new 'investors' are gunna want their share prices to be of value..and it most certainly won't be a strike price of .0001 or some sub amount of.....JMHO
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi Marty, Still Pinky Land. You never know. A real Vegas roll this week.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I want to buy more!!! I am tempted!!
 
Posted by Marty on :
 
Hey fly...LOL....no doubt....I hope it works out....still got some in the 'gamble' [Cool] Interesting read through the pages....GLTA [Wink]
(had to fix spelling)
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Hi Marty, Still Pinky Land. You never know. A real Vegas roll this week.


 
Posted by tongusc on :
 
New president hmmm new scams~ or a new Rs
look ICAN

good luck
 
Posted by Marty on :
 
Haha....one POS is as good as another....LOL
quote:
Originally posted by tongusc:
New president hmmm new scams~ or a new Rs
look ICAN

good luck


 
Posted by STATX on :
 
20 Billion?? Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny
 
Posted by coolbreeze1988 on :
 
20 Billion - Yeah, I'm hoping, but mostly doubtful...

quote:
Originally posted by STATX:
20 Billion?? Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
God i was waiting for someone to post that???--------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 Billion?? Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny.
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hows the waves monkey?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
funny how the posters with only a handful of post show up on news.

lol

it is wild.

this thing has some life again and they are crawling out of the woodwork.

lol

Rod
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hey mon, have fun in Jamaca ? [Smile]
 
Posted by Pennies to Dollars on :
 
Hello everyone. I said I would come back after we received good news and, in my opinion, getting a new CEO is the best news we could ask for right now...


...Let's hope.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I am happy about Fan,now I just hope he is the MAN!!! GO QBID!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Wonder where Jen is?
 
Posted by JimS on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
Wonder where Jen is?

Jen is in Memphis and we are keeping in touch.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Sounds like we could have a PR by Friday, that is if all went well with the meeting today. [Big Grin] Let's just hope that it is good news.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I hope your right Doc! Any news is good news at this point!
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
Doctoall,where did you hear about the meeting?

Thanks Rich

From Richard Brown this afternoon,their meeting has a recess and Richard returned my call during his break. According to Richard the meeting had already had been in progress for approx 2 hours, they were having a break and the meeting was to resume in 20 mins. He sounded very positive about the whole situation, looks like the IR guy is finally in on some of the decisions. Richard did say that he was pushing for a PR as early as tomorrow but thought that Friday maybe more realistic. One can only wait and see [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Thanks JimS, I am in Memphis.
It's time to get back to that old DD. I thought you all would like this:

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..



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The information in this email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or privileged and are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you received this message in error please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and delete all copies from your computer system as your retention, distribution or copying of this message and files in strictly prohibited. It is the recipient's responsibility to check this message and files for viruses.





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Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 2:17 AM
To: Information
Subject: Curve TV



When do you plan on broadcasting Curve TV? Can you give a specific date?

Thanks, Jenn
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
cool thanks Doc.

nice hearing from you.

Rod
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Which will come first, the reverse split or the audit?
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Sounds like a chicken or the egg question.

Seems as if an audit would be needed before any financial changes are made.


Another question/speculation: Frank has been selling his shares to Fan?
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Thanks Doc!!!
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
..in any scenario of this now transition in the company due to being preplanned or surprised Frank would not allow his personally invested $$$
become worthless.. if he had to he would piece TMM/QTN off to the highest bidder to recoupe his losses.. the reflection of Fan entering the picture possibly as far back as Oct of 05', hearsay of a new ceo approaching, statement of 30% of structure used towards debt, billions of shares crossing the tape with absolutely no demand for months, to me implies a plan was in hand.. preplanned from the start or a safety net along the path we will never know.. question now is did Frank remember us in the end or should i say the new beginning... ??????????????
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Well, another stock that I own just announced a RS

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060308/20060308005414.html?.v=1

QBID will do a RS if it wants to trade with the big boys. My history with RS is that the stock trades down afterward. SO, buying QBID before the RS would probably not a good idea. It might be better to sell before and buy back afterwards at a lower price.

Again, we need and Audit to determine what QBID has and what is the subscription base.

I hope that we do have some news from Fan on Friday and that it is positive for the shareholders! [Smile]

Good luck to all.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
MJ-Glad to see you are back. Any interest in taking a position, or still wait and see? (which I can totally understand).

I am glad Mr. Fan is in the house...my only concern is that I have heard nothing about us little ole shareholders. He plans on clearing house...good for him...but I hope he thinks about us on the way up. [Smile]

Good luck all. At least one thing is clear, never a dull moment in this stock.
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
pre-market activity
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
I think "Fan of QBID?" is a perfect title. [Big Grin]

Thank you [Wink]
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Wow, over a billion in the first 9 minutes
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
Wait people are in Memphis and keeping me out of the loop? thats not fair [Frown] ....

*been in lurk mode*

I have done an extensive search on Best Prop Holding Group and i have been unable to find any information about this company unrelated to the QBID management change. As near as i can tell the company does not exist. I have tapped some Asian resources i have and seeing if there is any company registered as Best Prop Holding Group in Taiwan and/or China. If no hits their, i will swing southeast around the coast and hit other countries for info.

As it stands right now with the lack of information, i can only assume that Mr. Fan is either ficticious or raised to a much higher stature then he really is. I'm almost certain that If Lloyd Fan was as "respected" as the QBID PR's claim then i would at least find some mentioning of him in Asian Business Magizines. So far the ones i have searched have no mention of Mr. Lloyd Fan. So here is my conclusion and prediction.

Mr. Fan was brought in to "restructure" the company. Since Frank did promise not to R/S while he was running the show in a PR he therefore cannot do so. However if he turns the company over temporarily to another person, then he can preform the r/s without blame on either of them. Then mysteriously Frank will come back with a new investor and take the company back over and continue on business as usual.

Granted this is based off past misinformation, lack of information on Mr. Fan and his company, and what a conspiring weasel many people think Frank might be. Now something we also have to question, is Frank capable of coming up with such an elaborate scheme. I will leave for you to decide. Again this is "IMO" (wish i could make that 64 font) so dont think what i write is worth a nickle, just baises this scenario (which is possible) based on the past, present information (or lack there of), and what the future might bring.

Hope this C/T is wrong but how knows just thought id throw that in the pot. I'm still hoping the best for Q but it dosent look to bright at this point from my POV. I will be checking in later
 
Posted by rkitch on :
 
Having problems on the 240 loop, lol. Do like I did. Go east on I40 and don't look back until you see the smokies, lol
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
i prefer 385, more sceneic. or actually in my case it would be 302 to 72 then back north to 385, my little mississippi - memphis loop:)
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Monopoly-

Possible. But after a year with Frank...im willing to give the Benefit of the Doubt.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So is this how Frank gets out of all of the shareholder lawsuits? I sure hope this Fan guy can do something positive for us, but its hard to forget or forgive Frank for all of the BS in the past.

M.M. that is a mighty interesting scenario there. I sure hope it doesn't come true, but with all of the underhanded crap that's gone on, I wouldn't put it past Frank and co.

Maybe the best thing we could hear now is that it was a hostile takeover. That would make me feel better. I'd also feel like maybe Frank got what he deserved...which is nothing!

Milliam
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
BTW...L2's anyone?
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
vol 2.07B
.0000x0
.0001X7

quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
BTW...L2's anyone?


 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
i check in on http://www.stockwatch.com/ many times throughout the day--and after. here's what happened yesterday and AFTER hours...

4,075,096.0 $411 #625 12:34
4,516,002.0 $452 #716 13:27
13:27:04 Q 0.0001 - 3,000,000
13:26:45 Q 0.0001 - 1,000,000
13:25:17 Q 0.0001 - 1,000,000
13:24:37 Q 0.0001 - 1,000,000
13:24:36 Q 0.0001 - 2,500,000
13:21:14 Q 0.00 -0.0001 9,999,901
13:21:14 Q 0.00 -0.0001 100
13:21:14 Q 0.00 -0.0001 9,999,999
13:20:48 Q 0.0001 - 3,500,000
13:20:44 Q 0.00 -0.0001 100

4,553,352.0 $456 #729 13:50
4,604,292.0 $461 #744 14:06
4,691,245.0 $470 #771 14:50
14:50:08 Q 0.00 -0.0001 1,000,000
14:48:52 Q 0.0001 - 2,300,000
14:48:07 Q 0.0001 - 200,000
14:46:08 Q 0.0001 - 1,000,000
14:45:37 Q 0.0001 - 1,000,000
14:45:37 Q 0.0001 - 9,000,000
14:45:37 Q 0.0002 +0.0001 1,000,000
14:45:36 Q 0.0002 +0.0001 9,000,000
14:44:49 Q 0.0001 - 7,000,000
14:43:48 Q 0.0001 - 9,000,000

4,774,645.0 $478 #800 15:19
4,888,118.0 $489 #825 15:57
4,904,918.0 $491 #829 15:59
4,914.0 $492 #832 16:03
4,914.0 $492 #818

619,051.5 $492 #818 (at 7:30pm)
619,051,513 15:59 pink sheets


notice the volume at 15:59, there were 4,904,918,000 shares traded for $491,000 in 829 transactions. keep in mind that these numbers are delayed by like 20 mins.

at 16:03, 10m more shares for $492,000 in 4 more transactions.

alittle later, same amount of shares with $492k--but 14 LESS transactions.

and at 7:30pm, the volume WENT DOWN to 619,051.5 (619,051,500) with $492k and 818 transactions.

now that is the closing volume listed on pinksheets.com at 15:59...619,051,513

it's like all of those BILLIONS of shares never traded!?!?

don't know what to make of it, but it's NOT the 1st time i've seen this.

something else unknown about what is happening with this stock.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
edit--double post somehow...
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
So is this how Frank gets out of all of the shareholder lawsuits? I sure hope this Fan guy can do something positive for us, but its hard to forget or forgive Frank for all of the BS in the past.

M.M. that is a mighty interesting scenario there. I sure hope it doesn't come true, but with all of the underhanded crap that's gone on, I wouldn't put it past Frank and co.

Maybe the best thing we could hear now is that it was a hostile takeover. That would make me feel better. I'd also feel like maybe Frank got what he deserved...which is nothing!

Milliam

Milliam I would say that Frank has just that....nothing!...at least for now anyways. Yeah I'd say he’s broke but only because of what he is trying to do...build Q.

Like "most" people, not all, who start businesses two things are inevitable...mistakes and debt.

I would think that this was an exhaustively frustrating endeavor for Frank and that his unprofessional and sometimes unethical ways of doing business made him the victim of his own shortcomings. But that’s not to say his deeds will have been in vain, at least not until proven otherwise….so we should all continue to be positive and patient.

Lets just wait and see what Fan does.

One thing for certain, he better be releasing an audit because we will continue to go nowhere without it. We need transparency. Anything short of that will be useless news. jmo
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Must see!...too funny!

https://home.comcast.net/~jfmelnick/fruitcakelady.wmv
 
Posted by mcspeechless1 on :
 
This is F*ckin ridiculous. 2bil in volume and still at .0001
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
I’m very excited that Q will be broadcasting in Australia at the end of this month.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I’m very excited that Q will be broadcasting in Australia at the end of this month.

Thats nice but again, Fan better be releasing an audit because we will continue to go nowhere without it. We need transparency. Anything short of that will be useless news. jmo
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Must see!...too funny!

https://home.comcast.net/~jfmelnick/fruitcakelady.wmv

Ah man... that was great!
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Lets hope that SelecTV makes it, because like Q, they are also a start up company. If QTN could start broadcasting on Dish or DirecTV, that would be exciting. Maybe. Depends on what Loyd has in store for us.

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I’m very excited that Q will be broadcasting in Australia at the end of this month.


 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
It is possible that Fan goes by the name Lloyd when dealing with English speaking people. It is my understanding that many people from Hong Kong have both a Chinese name and an English name. He may have conducted business in Hong Kong under his Chinese name. As for the name of the company, it may be possible that Best Prop Holding group is just the translation of his business, which is why you haven't had any success finding information about it. Just a thought- I have no proof to back it up.


From Monopoly Money: I have done an extensive search on Best Prop Holding Group and i have been unable to find any information about this company unrelated to the QBID management change. As near as i can tell the company does not exist. I have tapped some Asian resources i have and seeing if there is any company registered as Best Prop Holding Group in Taiwan and/or China. If no hits their, i will swing southeast around the coast and hit other countries for info.
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
Sorry, the bottom paragraph in my last post was from monopoly money. i was just responding to his comments.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
fwiw...

Valcom--VACM
0.11 -0.07 -38.9% vol 62.7k $9k #11 11:52
11:52:31 Q 0.11 -0.07 1,600
11:52:14 Q 0.15 -0.03 5,000
11:51:29 Q 0.155 -0.025 6,000
11:51:27 Q 0.155 -0.025 9,000
11:51:01 Q 0.16 -0.02 5,000
11:38:53 Q 0.165 -0.015 5,000
11:38:33 Q 0.17 -0.01 10,000
11:33:55 Q 0.18 - 100
11:05:44 Q 0.165 -0.015 1,000
10:09:11 Q 0.17 -0.01 5,000
 
Posted by realmoney2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
Wait people are in Memphis and keeping me out of the loop? thats not fair [Frown] ....

*been in lurk mode*

I have done an extensive search on Best Prop Holding Group and i have been unable to find any information about this company unrelated to the QBID management change. As near as i can tell the company does not exist. I have tapped some Asian resources i have and seeing if there is any company registered as Best Prop Holding Group in Taiwan and/or China. If no hits their, i will swing southeast around the coast and hit other countries for info.

As it stands right now with the lack of information, i can only assume that Mr. Fan is either ficticious or raised to a much higher stature then he really is. I'm almost certain that If Lloyd Fan was as "respected" as the QBID PR's claim then i would at least find some mentioning of him in Asian Business Magizines. So far the ones i have searched have no mention of Mr. Lloyd Fan. So here is my conclusion and prediction.

Mr. Fan was brought in to "restructure" the company. Since Frank did promise not to R/S while he was running the show in a PR he therefore cannot do so. However if he turns the company over temporarily to another person, then he can preform the r/s without blame on either of them. Then mysteriously Frank will come back with a new investor and take the company back over and continue on business as usual.

Granted this is based off past misinformation, lack of information on Mr. Fan and his company, and what a conspiring weasel many people think Frank might be. Now something we also have to question, is Frank capable of coming up with such an elaborate scheme. I will leave for you to decide. Again this is "IMO" (wish i could make that 64 font) so dont think what i write is worth a nickle, just baises this scenario (which is possible) based on the past, present information (or lack there of), and what the future might bring.

Hope this C/T is wrong but how knows just thought id throw that in the pot. I'm still hoping the best for Q but it dosent look to bright at this point from my POV. I will be checking in later

See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
well mr fan--

...as of now, it's all just a pr...

...good that there are still only 75k a/s of qtn

...no change of any corp officers....

...No new amendments....


wa sos....(360) 753-7115 (option 5)

tmm ubi 601 047 757
5/08/51 Date of Incorporation
8/24/04 amendment a/s + to 50b
7/25/05 license renewed (due 5/31/05)
11/07/05 amendment a/s + to 60b
12/19/05 amendment a/s + to 100b
02/07/06 amendment a/s + to 350b

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
rene schenk, sec/tres


qtn ubi 602 391 767 reinstated 9/8/05

qtn corp status:
5/03/04 --Date of Incorporation a/s 75k
6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active
6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive
9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved
9/08/05 --reinstated
9/8/05 to present --active

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
joseph morales, vice pres
marian sherman, director
rene schenk, sec/director
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah and from some of your previous post, recognizing that, why would you post this? lol
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
KC is refering to QTN not QBID(or TMM)
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I better double check for my sake. It's time for me to call them back anyways. [Smile]
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
check both UBI #'s

tmm ubi 601 047 757

qtn ubi 602 391 767
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.

tmm = 350b a/s

qtn = 75k a/s

call and ask yourself...
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yes, they both check out.

Not that I doubted you KC...it was just my rookie reaction. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
that is correct.

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.

tmm = 350b a/s

qtn = 75k a/s

call and ask yourself...


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
double post
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Yeah, but Authorized Shares and Outstanding Shares are two totally different beasts. And quite frankly (no pun intended) no one really knows how many are Outstanding.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next few weeks. I for one am willing to give it some time.

Hey Doc and Monkey--can you wink if this was the type of change you were expecting?
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
Yeah, but Authorized Shares and Outstanding Shares are two totally different beasts. And quite frankly (no pun intended) no one really knows how many are Outstanding.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next few weeks. I for one am willing to give it some time.

Hey Doc and Monkey--can you wink if this was the type of change you were expecting?

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
The way this thing has been trading in billions everyday it could very easilty be assumed or presumed that we are close to the entire A/S - I sure hope not. Currently our 10-day trading avg is 1.9B! I have to wonder what the hec is going on? Is Lloyd going to continue to exhaust the entire A/S and then R/S? We cannot continue to trade like this. Even though the volume is indicating billions in buys at .0001, that can not be true, otherwise the PPS would increase. Unless Frankie the fraud is still selling his shares under .00009 and Lloyd is gobbling/buying them up at .0001 - just speculation on my part...

quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
Yeah, but Authorized Shares and Outstanding Shares are two totally different beasts. And quite frankly (no pun intended) no one really knows how many are Outstanding.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next few weeks. I for one am willing to give it some time.

Hey Doc and Monkey--can you wink if this was the type of change you were expecting?


 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.

I also have a letter sitting in the WA Sec of State office since January 30th, but to date I have received no reply.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Has anyone checked with WA State to determine if there has been an applicatin submitted for a change of ownership????
 
Posted by George on :
 
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Has anyone checked with WA State to determine if there has been an applicatin submitted for a change of ownership????

10:15 am pst today....

see post above...
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
yo dew..how many are sittin' at .0001
 
Posted by TINPOZ on :
 
im in at .ooo4, ohhhhhhhhh boy
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Good for you! Go get the crooks.

quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I got in at .0016 [Mad]

quote:
Originally posted by TINPOZ:
im in at .ooo4, ohhhhhhhhh boy


 
Posted by realmoney2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.

From what I understand, you'll need to go to court in WA state to compel a court order...or hire a WA atty to do it in your stead.

Pathetic you have to do this.
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
gordon dont feel bad bro many have much higher inpoints than that. mine is now averaged down to .0008 but i have waaaaayyy tooo much in this i really hope fan does us right. this very well may be the ultimate cinderella story if fan the man can pull this off.

40 million long and strong on lockdown.

long live qbidians and qbidiots.

haha i was really a googidiot today i coulda woulda shoulda made 8k but instead made 800$ hehehe oh well good luck to you all.
 
Posted by realmoney2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

You are incorrect with regard to the website being for sale. The web address has to be entered as you saw it. Notice the /tw at the end?
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Someone kick the FAN ON! LOL
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
Here's a scenario I'm just going to throw out. I know as much as the rest of you, but being a cynic I am assuming that this deal will not have the best interests to the minority stockholders in mind.

Consider that this Best Prop Holding Group has purchased the majority holdings of QBID from Frank. Perhaps even a good chunk if not all of the excess A/S. Could it be possible that the plan is to raid QBID of its assets and then dump it? What would keep the Fan guy from declaring that QTN, and whatever other assets QBID might have, are being sold to Best Prop Holding Group for next to nothing. Maybe even a stock swap in some worthless company they want to get rid of. Best Prop could then just dump their shares of QBID, now gutted, and walk away.

I'm not saying this is going on, but it could be.

I wish I could be optimistic about these changes but we just don't know enough of what is going on.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
Here's a scenario I'm just going to throw out. I know as much as the rest of you, but being a cynic I am assuming that this deal will not have the best interests to the minority stockholders in mind.

Consider that this Best Prop Holding Group has purchased the majority holdings of QBID from Frank. Perhaps even a good chunk if not all of the excess A/S. Could it be possible that the plan is to raid QBID of its assets and then dump it? What would keep the Fan guy from declaring that QTN, and whatever other assets QBID might have, are being sold to Best Prop Holding Group for next to nothing. Maybe even a stock swap in some worthless company they want to get rid of. Best Prop could then just dump their shares of QBID, now gutted, and walk away.

I'm not saying this is going on, but it could be.

I wish I could be optimistic about these changes but we just don't know enough of what is going on.

I would think that Frank has already been given his Best Prop stocks [Frown]

People, Frank is going to do what is best for Frank. He has already PROVEN that he does not care what happens to current shareholders.
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
MJ-Glad to see you are back. Any interest in taking a position, or still wait and see? (which I can totally understand).

I am glad Mr. Fan is in the house...my only concern is that I have heard nothing about us little ole shareholders. He plans on clearing house...good for him...but I hope he thinks about us on the way up. [Smile]

Good luck all. At least one thing is clear, never a dull moment in this stock.

Thanks. There's always a possibility. And, with Frank gone, that possibility increased a lot. I'll let you all know what I decide to do...
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

You are incorrect with regard to the website being for sale. The web address has to be entered as you saw it. Notice the /tw at the end?
Top right corner of the page that URL goes to... PatentedProducts.com is for Sale! $3,488.00

[ March 08, 2006, 17:52: Message edited by: Ligge ]
 
Posted by sneither on :
 
I've been in for about 2 1/2 years at .0001
that is 'long' don't you say!! but I did make
some money back when it was up, last year?
I guess you could say, I'm in free now.
Wishing us all, "Good Luck"!
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.
First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yes MM I know your frustration. Earlier today I checked in both languages throughout what I thought was the entire asian business news services in China for ÇáÅÄ´ÌÉú²ú (Pat Prod Productions), ¸øÓèרÀûµÄ²úÆ·²úÒµ (Patented Product Industries) and lloyd ·çÉÈ (Lloyd Fan) and found nothing.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
But I did send emails to many of the news services throughout China requesting "any available news" on the above information. Hopefully I'll get a reply with a hit.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Added 15 mil today. Hope Fan doesn't forget the common shareholder!
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I wouldn't be so angry except that I bought based on PRs that were outright lies.

(Audit coming any day, huge buybacks, profit in first quarter of '06, etc. etc. etc.)

It's one thing to do your DD, it's another thing when all the DD turns out to be BS.


quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
gordon dont feel bad bro many have much higher inpoints than that. mine is now averaged down to .0008 but i have waaaaayyy tooo much in this i really hope fan does us right. this very well may be the ultimate cinderella story if fan the man can pull this off.

40 million long and strong on lockdown.

long live qbidians and qbidiots.

haha i was really a googidiot today i coulda woulda shoulda made 8k but instead made 800$ hehehe oh well good luck to you all.


 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
[QB
Consider that this Best Prop Holding Group has purchased the majority holdings of QBID from Frank. Perhaps even a good chunk if not all of the excess A/S. Could it be possible that the plan is to raid QBID of its assets and then dump it? What would keep the Fan guy from declaring that QTN, and whatever other assets QBID might have, are being sold to Best Prop Holding Group for next to nothing. Maybe even a stock swap in some worthless company they want to get rid of. on. [/QB]

I suspect he would be breaching a fiduciary duty to the company. Plus, any fundamental corporate change would have to be voted on by shareholders.

Of course, that would be in a perfect would. [Smile]

Who knows. Im still going to give the benefit of the doubt. What else can i give? (certainly not more money!) lol.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
LOL, thats um...a perfect worLD.
 
Posted by realmoney2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.
First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Q's PR's have always been written in a "gobbled-gooked" style with occasional direct statements.

Why is there so little info on the web?

Is the PR a deliberate attempt to mislead and confuse or just more sloppy composition?

Or, is it just another attempt to buy more time?

If so, more time for what?

Could the mysterious Mr. Fan be a relative or___?

Will a PR be released soon that will clear the haze surrounding QBID?

This, of course, is just more speculation......

Unfortunately for us, we seem to always have more questions than answers.

Jen's Australia news is good news--here's hoping for more great news ahead and speculation about how high will it go. [Wink]

GLTA
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
not to argue with anyone but i see the for sale domain as well.

it is not taking me where i believe you want it to take us.

try reposting it

maybe there is a spelling mistake in the url.

as i said it takes me to a domain for sale as well.

i know i was to that website yesterday and seen what you are trying to show us.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.
First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??

 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
here try this link you may find more success.

http://www.tradesources.com/gmp/en/catalog/sup_profile.jsp?companyId=SCM11EF7F08E112&branchId=SCM11EF7F08E112
 
Posted by coolcola on :
 
Try this link:

http://www.patentedproducts.com.tw/

or this one

http://www.handtoolsb2b.com/work/b_index.jsp?supplier=1696&industry=HT

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
not to argue with anyone but i see the for sale domain as well.

it is not taking me where i believe you want it to take us.

try reposting it

maybe there is a spelling mistake in the url.

as i said it takes me to a domain for sale as well.

i know i was to that website yesterday and seen what you are trying to show us.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
quote:
Originally posted by realmoney2:
quote:
Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.
First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
heres some more

http://www.aape.biz/en/Supplier/DefaultDetail.asp?iSupplierId=154&sFrom=sProduct&iCategoryId=269&sAscDesc=
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
So PT, You think that email was to strong. I was trying to get right to the hart of it.lol
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and another

http://www.patentedproducts.com.tw/
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
you mean the one from yesterday that i commented on ?


Im not sure i am following you.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
So PT, You think that email was to strong. I was trying to get right to the hart of it.lol


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and one more

http://www.tradesources.com/gmp/en/catalog/prod_details.jsp?catalogId=GPC68FF2FD954F7
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
from PlanetOut.. >Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment.<
going into the Gay Games what is Fan to do with no experience in television/advertising..??? Makes sense he pulls in someone with experience and size to handle the games.. still see him going the product sell platform where he has the expertise.. Question is WHO does he buddy up with now that Q has lost respect in the media market??
http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2006/03/08/1
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I hope Fan fixes this mess!!!!!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah the websites are there PT but I've been trying to get business news or PR's from the chinese business media mentioning any of Lloyd Fan's previous accomplishments with his current and/or previously owned companies. Just trying to find out more information about him. lol
 
Posted by Alek2 on :
 
I remember when Imakemoney went out to the studio, everyone here thought he knew everything and was very nice and polite to him, probably was bombarded with PM's,,,,,

I know I asked him for his opinion...

The response was: "I liked what I had seen and I am buying more"


Prfttttt.......
Imak, I dont' know what they showed you there, boy they washed you with QBIDicide.
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
so it seems some are adding shares i wish i had the guts to add more at these prices but im sad to say this qbidiot has lost a bit of faith. im still holding onto all my shares but the fear of the dreaded reverse split is lingering strong in my mind. i truly hope fan can fan away the smell of franks attempted disaster to shareholders. frank really pulled a number on us i am kinda surprised we havent heard of a shareholder with some real bucks putting the hurt on frank with lawsuits about false info. im not saying we have any proof as we all know due to the lack of transparency that we basically know nothing. but all the comments about profitability and buybacks ect.......ect........ ect......... really urks me.

good luck to all and please any and all info and dd is greatly appreciated by me and many others. please q give me a few reasons to buy more shares. how i would love to have 20 million more if only this had a chance to run again.

40 million on lockdown.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
i wouldnt add shares until after the reverse split
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Any guesses on what the rs will be?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I'd rather guess we're not going to have one. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 2crazynuts on :
 
Well I finished reading all 8 pages of speculation some good and plausible, some a little far fetched. But some good comes from open disscusion of any scenario, it makes us all THINK.
My thoughts and only my uneducated opinion is that I will hold just as I have since Feb. 04 until there is a factual dialog from QBID. I don't buy or sell on specualation and I refuse to start now. As for an Audit...any audit released now that has been derived from Frank's promised Audit would be worthless. A new and complete audit would have to be done before I would believe any part of it.To much has changed since the audit and no one knows what the truth is we have all been lied to many times.
If I lose my entire investment which is minor compared to many on this board I will survive to invest in something else.
I knew the risk and I took it of my own free will, I trusted Frank just like many of you and we all knew it was a risky adventure with a chance for big rewards.
I'm holding tight and hoping for the best...hope it works for all of us.....John
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Could this be our Mr Fan, with a phd from University of Queensland?
(gotta be a joke in that one somewhere [Big Grin] )


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2000/06/16/40225
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
You and me both!

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
I'd rather guess we're not going to have one. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Alek2
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 08, 2006 09:33 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I remember when Imakemoney went out to the studio, everyone here thought he knew everything and was very nice and polite to him, probably was bombarded with PM's,,,,,

I know I asked him for his opinion...

The response was: "I liked what I had seen and I am buying more"


Prfttttt.......
Imak, I dont' know what they showed you there, boy they washed you with QBIDicide.

--------------------
Real Estate and Stocks All the way.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posts: 158 | From: Toronto | Registered: Jun 2005
?????????????????WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
wow i just checked my account and i finally sold 275000 *.0001. only put it up like 3 weeks ago. maybe things are looking up.. hehe not
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
How much is the QTN studio worth? Is it worth more then what Mr Fan is paying for the shares? Did he get all of it at a bargin price.

I have a feeling that Mr Fan ONLY wants the studio and it equipement. He wants it to start another Home Shopping type network to sell his products. Why else would a manufacturer buy a TV station????

But I really don'y know anything, just a guess.
 
Posted by Slug on :
 
manfromjax, If those were his intentions, he wouldn't waste time or money to do so. He would've announced this immediately IMO.

My feeling is a combination of the two, shopping channel at night, gay channel during the day. again IMO.
 
Posted by SingleDad703 on :
 
With a specific customer base (GLBT), that has X-Ammount of disposable income. The best plan for him IMO would be to keep the channel the way it is, and choose GLBT oriented products for filler commercials.

Just what my thoughts are.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
SD703 thats more like it. And then of course if that didn't work because of the damage that has occured, well then yes, I could see him converting into another shopping network.

Still waiting to see official proof per WA of the transition.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Here is the information again if anyone would like to check the corporation status for themselves.

360-753-7115 (option 5) or press 0 for live operator.

TMM UBI 601 047 757
QTN UBI 602 391 767
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
You can get a pizza! [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by qlooz:
wow i just checked my account and i finally sold 275000 *.0001. only put it up like 3 weeks ago. maybe things are looking up.. hehe not


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I found a link to Patent Products Inc and lloyd Fan... not much. It has contract number for Lloyd, 60 employees, email, company address, etc. I still dont know what the hell or how the hell he is making money selling hooks and straps....link below:

http://www.sportingb2b.com/work/b_index.jsp?supplier=1696&industry=SG
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
This is one of Lloyds products... I wonder if Frankie the Fraudster got one of these as token of appreciation and consolation price as he was given the boot. I can see it now... infomercial on QTN late at nite for the POGO SEAT LOL!

 -
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
That thing looks painful.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
LOL!

quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That thing looks painful.


 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
I found a link to Patent Products Inc and lloyd Fan... not much. It has contract number for Lloyd, 60 employees, email, company address, etc. I still dont know what the hell or how the hell he is making money selling hooks and straps....link below:

http://www.sportingb2b.com/work/b_index.jsp?supplier=1696&industry=SG

You would be amazed, I actually own a set of those hooks and straps! [Big Grin]

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=826-100&categoryid=24775
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ya he did but apparently he uses it upside down [Eek!] [Roll Eyes]


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
This is one of Lloyds products... I wonder if Frankie the Fraudster got one of these as token of appreciation and consolation price as he was given the boot. I can see it now... infomercial on QTN late at nite for the POGO SEAT LOL!

 -


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Daaamn PT!

Canada 8, United States 6 ...ouch!!! [Big Grin]

8-6 victory in the first round of the inaugural World Baseball Classic.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Razz] [Razz]
 
Posted by Optimus Prime on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SingleDad703:
With a specific customer base (GLBT), that has X-Ammount of disposable income. The best plan for him IMO would be to keep the channel the way it is, and choose GLBT oriented products for filler commercials.

Just what my thoughts are.

I agree with this. Makes business sense to me. IMO.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
aahahaha....it ain't over yet! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Anyone have a brief summary of the trading history today?

Ameritrade Streamer showed a .0002 trade at 11:36, but Ameritrade's LAST TRADE chart shows no trades above .0001. And the Yahoo charts show a straight flat line, all at .0002.

Anyone have accurate info? Thanks.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I show 2 trades at .0002. One at 11:37 for 1,800,000 and one at 11:36 for 900,000. There might be more before those, be they are off my screen now.

I wonder if there's just a lot of tape painting going on. I believe King Crimson found some weird volume stuff happening the other day. Here's my scenario...the tape gets painted throughout the day to make it look like huge volume is trading, but at the end of the day, there's only been a tenth of that much actually traded.

Now, why would this happen...QBID trying to buyback shares? QBID trying to sell shares? Who knows at this point!

Milliam
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
It would be good to get news about something. I don't think these user mgmt types would like it if somebody took a lot of their money then locked them in a sound proof room for 6 months.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
I show 2 trades at .0002. One at 11:37 for 1,800,000 and one at 11:36 for 900,000. There might be more before those, be they are off my screen now.

I wonder if there's just a lot of tape painting going on. I believe King Crimson found some weird volume stuff happening the other day. Here's my scenario...the tape gets painted throughout the day to make it look like huge volume is trading, but at the end of the day, there's only been a tenth of that much actually traded.

Now, why would this happen...QBID trying to buyback shares? QBID trying to sell shares? Who knows at this point!

Milliam

Thanks for the info. It's tough finding good data anymore. And I think you're right about the "painting" ... something about the daily trading just doesn't add up. And the huge totals for the day never seen to hold up. This could be inaccurate tracking programs, or manipulation, or whatever. All I know for sure ... I'm confused about what is true and what is false.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Three trades at .0002 today.


11:37:21 900000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:37:21 900000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:37:21 900000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:15 900000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:15 900000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB


quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Anyone have a brief summary of the trading history today?

Ameritrade Streamer showed a .0002 trade at 11:36, but Ameritrade's LAST TRADE chart shows no trades above .0001. And the Yahoo charts show a straight flat line, all at .0002.

Anyone have accurate info? Thanks.


 
Posted by LEO on :
 
I think those .0002 trades may have been buys by redgurl. lol.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I've got a few million I'll sell for .0002 as a lot. Any takers?
 
Posted by hypnostock on :
 
In the PR it sounds like the core business will remain the same, with other possibilities. I agree with FOT's post. Who did the board of directors consist of? The ones that resigned?
Does anybody know if Carol Hinnant is still there?

TIA...

(from the latest P.R.)
"The QTN business model presents a multitude of possibilities, and I look forward to taking outgoing Chairman Frank Olsen's vision to the next level," said Mr. Fan. "I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community."
 
Posted by hypnostock on :
 
Has Fan had any other public companies?
If so how has there stock moved?
How has he treated stockholders?
Definately a lot of possibilities in the growing asian marketplace. Maybe the new financial structuring included less pay for the board of directors with the restructuring. He probably wanted some of them to stay but the numbers didn't jive and had to cut expenses.
How deep are his pockets? Seems like Frank spent money a little too easily, and probably paid too much out in salaries up front without the income to support it.
Is Frank still involved at this point?

DAve...
 
Posted by Alek2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
I've got a few million I'll sell for .0002 as a lot. Any takers?

See, I would take it, but I can get filled at 50 million if I want at 0.0001 within 3 minutes probably.....

[Razz]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Board pushed at gay TV channel
Larry Buhl, GAY.COM/PlanetOut Network
Thursday 9 March, 2006 11:26 |
From uk.gay.com

After gay TV stations folded in the UK and other European countries, the problems for American channel Q Television Network continue to grow.

Less than a month after laying off most of its staff, the financially troubled QTN, one of three television networks in the United States with primarily lesbian and gay content, has ousted its top management in hope of pulling itself back into the black.

The company reported on Tuesday that investor Lloyd Fan, who was recently brought in as president, would replace company founder Frank Olsen as chairman and CEO of QTN and parent Triangle Multi-Media. In addition, Fan has replaced the board and top management, including Olsen and other top executives.

"Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations," said a prepared statement from Q. "Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming."

QTN is available to 3 million cable subscribers in several cities, but is still not available in many major markets.

The company came under fire last month for laying off the majority of its staff while owing them a month's pay, leading to speculation that the company would go under. At that time, a spokesman for the network told GAY.com that Q would stay afloat and that the new management structure would ultimately succeed.

"I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high-quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community," Fan said in a prepared statement.

Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment.

QTN executives refused to comment for this story.

However, laid-off employees -- who have still not been paid for the month of January -- have a lot to say.

Vanessa Mayer, a graphics generator who was laid off February 1st, lays the blame for the company's hard times on Olsen's management skills. "The only reason the changes are happening is that Q needed money and nobody would give them money with Frank (Olsen) as the head of the company," she told GAY.com.

"It's funny that they say Q's new emphasis will be on television and finance," Mayer said. "They're a television network. What was their emphasis before?"

Jane Bloom, a production coordinator, told GAY.com that even though they are waiting to be paid for the entire month of January, she and most of the former staffers have moved on.

"I think it's not a question of getting hired back, but a matter of when we get the money they owe us," she said. Bloom ended up taking a survival job at a health club while looking for television production work.

Less than 10 out of more than 100 laid-off staffers have been asked back to the network, and only as independent contractors at less than their previous wages.

Both Mayer and Bloom say the consensus among the still-close staffers is that nothing Q Television could do at this point would undo the damage to its reputation.

"Nobody with any TV experience is going anywhere near Q to look for a job," Mayer said. Bloom concurred: "Almost everyone I've interviewed with say they heard about what happened at Q and that it's very screwed up."
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Ouch.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
This two statements pretty much hits the nail on the head...

"The only reason the changes are happening is that Q needed money and nobody would give them money with Frank (Olsen) as the head of the company," she told GAY.com.

"It's funny that they say Q's new emphasis will be on television and finance," Mayer said. "They're a television network. What was their emphasis before?"
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
They should interview us.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Now there is an idea.

quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
They should interview us.


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Yeah, they didn't even mention all the fraudulent news releases issued by Frank and Co.

Surely there's a criminal case in there somewhere.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I would rather have somebody with deep pockets, or business/financial knowledge running TMM/QTN. They can always hire the "right" people to run the network, rather than to have to have Frankie the Fraudster at the helm. We saw how far it got us. Frankie the Fraud may have had the GLBT "wet dream" (his words), but he obviously did not have what it takes to run a business. I personally think he squandered all of the money because of poor business decisions, including elaborate parties, parades, sponsorships and lawsuits. Furthermore, I never did believe the story about the investor dying, that sounded too fishy. Kinda, like, the dog at my homework or the dog at the audit.


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Can't spell for sh!t today...

I meant the dog ate my homework or the dog ate the audit.


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
I would rather have somebody with deep pockets, or business/financial knowledge running TMM/QTN. They can always hire the "right" people to run the network, rather than to have to have Frankie the Fraudster at the helm. We saw how far it got us. Frankie the Fraud may have had the GLBT "wet dream" (his words), but he obviously did not have what it takes to run a business. I personally think he squandered all of the money because of poor business decisions, including elaborate parties, parades, sponsorships and lawsuits. Furthermore, I never did believe the story about the investor dying, that sounded too fishy. Kinda, like, the dog at my homework or the dog at the audit.


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...



 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I suppose the "at least it isn't Frank" argument is my only ray of hope right now. I'm down 93.75%!
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I wonder if he got "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" before he left? LOL
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
So just out of curiosity .... has anyone heard from

Davidjanas? or what ever his name was? [Confused]
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Ok, I can't stop thinking of the "poop" hitting the Fan.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Blackwidow, Hopefully we will be danceing the FANDANGO soon, Dew AND GB can i do the interview i swear ill be good.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
well, here's my effort to mr fan...let you know of any response....lol


Mr. Fan:

i speak for myself only, but be assured that there are many with these thoughts.
as long time investors/shareholders, we are understandably interested and concerned about the status and direction of this enterprise.

first, welcome to our nightmare. i mean that with the most positive of intentions. there are many questions, and i am sure you will be addressing them with the utmost haste. for now, know that there are long-suffering shareholders glad to see your arrival, and eager for your success.

i am sure that for you to have gotten involved with this entity (Triangle Multimedia and it's various holdings), you would have to know the corporate and financial structure of this entity. else you wouldn't know what you are getting for YOUR investment in this entity, let alone where you are starting from.

the folks that have funded this public entity, the shareholders, are entitled to know that information. on behalf of all the shareholders, i would request that you release to us that known information.

there are many directions all of this can go. we will be awaiting your thoughts and plans for the future.

i am a long-time investor/shareholder and wish you the best of luck and great success. thank you for your time and hopeful response. contact me anytime.


sincerely,
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes but a good business man knows to hire the right people for the job, AND let them look after it.


Frank hired the right people but would not allow them to do what they do best.

Frank had his fingers into too much that he really should have let his tallent do.

that was his big failure.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...


 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. [Smile] I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
nice letter KC

i have not heard back from mine yet.

rod
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I hope you're right! I'm looking forward to the next month or two to see what develops.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
yes but a good business man knows to hire the right people for the job, AND let them look after it.


Frank hired the right people but would not allow them to do what they do best.

Frank had his fingers into too much that he really should have let his tallent do.

that was his big failure.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...



 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yesterday someone posted ( i believe it was QBID'n) that it had not changed.

rod


quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. [Smile] I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. [Smile] I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.

Good to see you BWB. Here is the information again if you would like to check the corporation status.

360-753-7115 (option 5) or press 0 for live operator.

TMM UBI 601 047 757
QTN UBI 602 391 767
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
aahahaha....Hey someone found Frank enjoying his retirement.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10087218
 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Actually I trust your comments on this , so no need to check. In one way I am a little disappointed that it did not decrease but I guess anything can happen now that Frank has been shipped off to Gilligan's Island.

Thanks

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. [Smile] I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.

Good to see you BWB. Here is the information again if you would like to check the corporation status.

360-753-7115 (option 5) or press 0 for live operator.

TMM UBI 601 047 757
QTN UBI 602 391 767


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
aahahaha....Hey someone found Frank enjoying his retirement.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10087218

lol here is the post card

 -
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Too funny ain't PT haha...I died man!
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
A PR in the morning would be GREAT! I am ready to find out if QBID will turn around or will it just HIT THE FAN....LOL(sorry [Smile] )


quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point. [Big Grin]

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.


 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
A PR in the morning would be GREAT! I am ready to find out if QBID will turn around or will it just HIT THE FAN....LOL(sorry [Smile] )


quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point. [Big Grin]

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.


Yes it would!!!! Richard indicated that he wanted to have a PR by this Friday. But what kind of PR will it be??? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
any kind of pr, other then a r/s, would make me very happy, heh
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I agree with moosehead. Any pr that tells me what Fan is going to do. Not including an r/s!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
A PR announcing a buyback or reduction of the AS, OS, or an invitation to a steak dinner won't mean didly. imo [Big Grin]

There is way too much negative news out there now that would stop any new investor from investing at this point.

Maybe Fan will do one of two things. Along with the usual PR'd blah blah blah, he'll either announce to have an audit ready in 30-60 days...or he'll announce the r/s and start from scratch.

But thats just my rookie thought. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
you guys think their will be any way to "clean-up" qtv's reputation?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Well now that depends on how much money Fan wants to spend. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its already cleaned up lol Frank is gone. lol

that is a load of cleansing in itself.

but he is going to have to settle out the debts of the workers that where layed off, to gain any type of credibility in the industry. If he doesnt do that, then he might as well pull the plug right now.


now im off to bed

nighty night.

Rod
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
a letter to richard. i attached my fan letter for him to forward in case other efforts fail.

good luck all...


richard--

well, thought i would send this off to you to see if you could forward this to our new fearless leader. as far as i know, you are still our 'IR' guy right?

speaking of which, when can we expect the paperwork to be filed with the state of Washington installing Fan, and removing Olsen?

then there are the other questions...audit, share structure, gay games, etc.
soon?

ok. will you please forward this along? i'll add as attachment fan1.
again, thanks for your time and efforts.


sincerely,

[ March 10, 2006, 07:23: Message edited by: King Crimson ]
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !
 
Posted by JimS on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !

I tend to agree that we will see an r/s but I don't understand why you suggest that they might be issuing of millions more shares. Why do you think that might happen?
Thanks
Jim
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
I think The Q could turn it around. Remember, The Q was only in 3 million homes (potentially) and still not many major markets. It wont take too much to garner new good will if it is shown that the new management really has cleaned house, become transparent, and starts producing some good shows.

As for anyone not working there...i dont buy that. If they can pay, folks will work. And if potential employees are sure the entire management structure has been gutted...which it looks as if it has...then I think The Q can turn the corner. It wont be easy, but it will make for good message board speculation and chatter. [Smile]
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
i have a question,

Did Frank really convert that 53% of, Guessing, 15 billion shares into preferred shares. And if so where is that bundle of preferred shares now?

I think if we can get those questions answered we can have a decent speculation as to whats going to happen with the share structure in the near future.

*follow the money*
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
same story different spin...

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_1460.php

MANAGEMENT SHAKEUP AT Q TV

Gay Dallas televisionary Jack E. Jett (Jack Pinson) bade good riddance to the outgoing management at the Q Television Network in e-mails sent to gay newspapers this week. Known for launching “The Jack. E. Jett Show” on DCTV, a cable access program, Jett started working with Q Television in 2004, when the network was based in Haltom City, Texas. In August 2005, administration and production offices moved to Burbank, Calif., and the network started luring higher-profile guests and co-hosts, including Reichen Lehmkuhl (winner of “The Amazing Race IV”) and comedian Sandra Bernhard, pictured, who served as Jett’s co-host on a talk show called “The Queer Edge.”
In the first week of February, the network notified its employees that all productions were going on a two-week hiatus. Without first consulting Jett, his production crew was fired. The two weeks eventually drifted into four — leaving both Jett and Bernhard unpaid and in limbo.

On Tuesday, a press statement announced that Q Television founder Frank Olsen had been replaced by Lloyd Fan, who will assume the role of chairman and CEO of Q Television Network and Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Q TV’s parent company. New management will be announced in the coming weeks, according to the statement.

After receiving the news, Jett said, “The company fell apart due to poor management — not due to the employees. We were all working our butts off to make this work. The people who created nothing but havoc are now gone, as I understand it. My hope is that they will right the wrong and move forward.”

— Daniel A. Kusner
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
i have a question,

Did Frank really convert that 53% of, Guessing, 15 billion shares into preferred shares. And if so where is that bundle of preferred shares now?

I think if we can get those questions answered we can have a decent speculation as to whats going to happen with the share structure in the near future.

*follow the money*

I don’t think he ever got it converted because 1) he stated during the last CC that he had not converted all his shares to preferred stock yet and 2) in a PR after that, he said that QBID common shareholders own 100% of TMM.

If the common shareholders own 100%, then the preferred shareholders don’t own anything. Of course, it wouldn’t be the first time that Frank put out a PR that wasn’t accurate.
 
Posted by deepockets on :
 
Has anyone tried to sell this lately? I have had a sell in for two days now going on the third and no fill of my sell order. Any explanations?

Thanks
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
How much are you trying to sell for? There's almost no volume today.
 
Posted by deepockets on :
 
.0001 that's the bid.
 
Posted by deepockets on :
 
491,000,000 today
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
That is because we dont have BID currently or rather it is below .00009;

L2 MM lineup:
BID: 0000 x 0
ASK: 0001 X 9

quote:
Originally posted by deepockets:
.0001 that's the bid.


 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by deepockets:
491,000,000 today

Check again. A lot of sites are displaying yesterday's volume.

Only one I've seen with today's says 6 mill total.
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Yahoo still has yesterday's graph, though the volume may be current (490 million)

Though Ameritrade says 6.6 million.
 
Posted by JimS on :
 
I don't have L2 but my Scottrader session page sometimes shows the bid at -.0001 and sometimes at +.0001. I don't know for sure but I suspect the - or + is indicating whether it is below or above .0001. It is currently +.0001 and has been for this session. If my interpretation is correct then I think that is good because for the last two weeks it is been -.0001
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Wow thanks i didnt realise that frank was out and not the possibility exists.

i dont think it has ever been mentioned.

thanks for opening our eyes to this revelation.

please keep us informed as to what else is happening

thanks

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !


 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Do you think Frank well give us shareholder a GoodBye messsage about how he fought for us?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:


L2 MM lineup:
BID: 0000 x 0
ASK: 0001 X 9

Sheeesh!...now there's a wall hanger.

Just hope we can all look back one day and smile at it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by manfromjax:
Do you think Frank well give us shareholder a GoodBye messsage about how he fought for us?

He did already!...didn't you see the post card he sent. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by deepockets on :
 
Does Q stil have the games in Chicago? Sorry, I have been gone for a while.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
"It's all in the belly" hahaha
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Q is still listed on the gay games website as the tv source for the games. Supposedly they paid for the rights already, but thats anybodies guess.


quote:
Originally posted by deepockets:
Does Q stil have the games in Chicago? Sorry, I have been gone for a while.


 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
i agree that there will be an R/S at some point in the future. but Fan is supposed to be financially savyy, and anyone who knows about finance knows that an RS with a declining stock will just lead to the stock declining. i could see him doing an RS after the stock starts climbing back up. we'll see though. if fan wants the stock to be listed, he's gonna have to do one though, it's just a matter of at what price he does it at.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
historically r/s happen when the price is locked at rock bottom, to allow for some movement in the price.

I would say that we are right where we need to be for one to occur.

its not happening today

typically they will have a midnight meeting of the board, vote for a r/s and have it executed with a symbol change prior to the opening of trading for the day.

no warning no nothing.

they will not tell you they are doing it. it just happens.

every morning that we are still trading at these levels under this symbol, is good news to me.

but one morning soon we could be experiencing this.

I would love to hear a couple of prs come from Mr Fan, so that we can get an idea of what his plans are before this happens.

Rod
 
Posted by pappy on :
 
Hey all
What type of share structure dose it take to be a to trade in the Dow or Nasdaq or any other exchange that we could grow to.
 
Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
if there is a reverse split and they change the symbol, what happens to our QBID shares?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
You will still have those shares under new symbol.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Hopefully it won't be a 19,987,600 to 1 r/s, right QBID'n?

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey watch your language! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
If it is anticipated that a r/s would result in an increase in the pps, wouldn't now be a good time to accumulate shares? This is my first stock so I have alot to learn. Been holding Q since it was at .028 and have managed to average down to .0012 with 7.6m shares but my account is still at a 90%+ loss.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
historically r/s happen when the price is locked at rock bottom, to allow for some movement in the price.

I would say that we are right where we need to be for one to occur.

its not happening today

typically they will have a midnight meeting of the board, vote for a r/s and have it executed with a symbol change prior to the opening of trading for the day.

no warning no nothing.

they will not tell you they are doing it. it just happens.

every morning that we are still trading at these levels under this symbol, is good news to me.

but one morning soon we could be experiencing this.

I would love to hear a couple of prs come from Mr Fan, so that we can get an idea of what his plans are before this happens.

Rod

Its a gamble DMEK25.
 
Posted by pappy on :
 
If we have a reverse split aprox 5000 to 1 that would put us in a reasonable float IMO.
 
Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
when i first bought this stock, there was someone collecting $10 from everyone to go check out Q, i think his name was cash. there was also someone named diana that was very active on the board. does anyone know what happened to them?
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Check the food stamp line. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Hardly, I think "like a daughter to Frank", pumper queen Diana, did ok for HERSELF.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah didn't you notice?...thats Diana in the post card behind Frank. lol
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Someone should Photoshop that pogo bicycle seat thingy in the sand next to him.

Anyone bored enough?

 -
 -
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available.

Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder.

Regards,


Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
617-314-7379
staff*equityrelations.com
www.equityrelations.com
Please visit our website for disclaimers and information
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
That sounds familiar...

"I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I think Lloyd should hire a real Investor Relations company/person. Richard Brown is nothing but a joke and is as professional and credible as Frankie the Fraudster. Richard lost ALL credibility with me when he went on RB after a poster called Fistula... That is not what real investor relations professionals do, IMO. Therefore, I am hoping that Lloyd will fire Richard Brown and Equity Relations SOON.
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available.

Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder.

Regards,


Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
617-314-7379
staff*equityrelations.com
www.equityrelations.com
Please visit our website for disclaimers and information

Doc
When did you receive this?
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Jennifer: I received that e-mail about 2 hours ago from Richard [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
I am going to be in Palm Springs in two weeks, Is anything still housed there or did everything move to Burbank? I would love to poke my head in to at the very least get a feel for attitudes and overall atmosphere under the new management.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
What ever or who ever, just get a feel for things and let us know Ligge. gl lol
 
Posted by Robdizo on :
 
So is qbid gonna bust a r/s and trickle back down to .0001? I have a gut feeling about this one and its not a good one.
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robdizo:
So is qbid gonna bust a r/s and trickle back down to .0001? I have a gut feeling about this one and its not a good one.

Most do after a reverse split.
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
I was just reading on the PLNI thread and this message reminded me of the old QBID... all you have to do is : replace Turek with Olsen... Semco-Prmold with Cox and RCN.. and we got QBID [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by needhelp:
Maybe Turek is finally learning not to put out misleading PR's and concentrate on the business. I'm still waiting word from that liar about Audit, Buyback then reissuance of new shares with no PR telling us, Semco and Promold finalized deals. Theses are legit questions that the other thread use to try to answer but all threads have cheerleaders who don't look at the score because their eyes are shut. Is their an audit? He's been talking about it for ovcer a year now. I believe in the product not the man running the company.


 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Blah Blah Blah!
Show me the beef!!!
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
QBID to the moon!!!!????(Maybe.LOL)

Go FAN!!!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
there is really no good answer to that question.

alot is going to depend on how they do the r/s

if it only effects the outstanding shares and not the approved shares, then it is not a good thing for us.

if they reduce the A/S accordingly and dont dilute anymore then the r/s could be good for us.

it will all depend on what the intent of the r/s is for.

for examble a 35,000- 1 r/s should increase the value of each share to about $3.50 a share. with an A/S of 10 million shares.

this would allow them to move to another exchange if they could hold that value.

but if they where to increase the A/S again and start selling shares, then they are going to see the price drop off rapidly and we will be back to these levels rather fast.

there is a lot to consider. there is no guaranty as to how it would go down, but historically speaking, a r/s usually does not have a good effect on the stock holders.

we are however in a situation where I dont believe that they have any other choice but to r/s.

it would cost this gentleman 10- 15 million to buyback and retire enough to make a buyback worth while, and that would be over and above the money he had to invest to get his majority stake in the company.

anything is possible, but this is very unlikely in my honest opinion.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by DMEK25:
If it is anticipated that a r/s would result in an increase in the pps, wouldn't now be a good time to accumulate shares? This is my first stock so I have alot to learn. Been holding Q since it was at .028 and have managed to average down to .0012 with 7.6m shares but my account is still at a 90%+ loss.


 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
coverage from the washington blade.. Jett says they spent 100k at sundance


http://www.washblade.com/2006/3-10/arts/television/qtn.cfm


Gay TV network faces financial crisis
QTN names new CEO, as staffers claim they are not being paid

By GREG MARZULLO
Friday, March 10, 2006


Q Television Network, one of three national gay and lesbian TV cable channels, announced March 7 that it is replacing its chief executive officer, amid accusations from at least one on-air personality that he and his staff are not being paid.

Lloyd Fan, who served as interim president, will take over as QTN’s new chair and CEO succeeding founding CEO Frank Olsen, according to a news release. Officials from QTN repeatedly declined to comment, deferring to the release.

The release also states that QTN is undergoing a companywide overhaul, including the creation of an entirely new board of directors and the replacement of QTN officers. All board members were relieved of their responsibilities as of March 7.

In early February, QTN laid off much of its production staff and filming stopped for a week. Although production resumed shortly thereafter, paychecks have still gone unpaid, according to Jack E. Jett, co-host of QTN’s pop culture show "Queer Edge."

"The people that worked on my show have not been paid," Jett says. "I haven’t gotten a check in two months."

A statement issued on Feb. 23 from the company’s then-CEO Olsen stated that the entire company was being restructured.

"This could take 3-4 weeks, but everyone will be paid and brought up to date," read the statement. "We deeply regret any inconvenience or hardship this has caused our staff and the gay community."

Jett said the missed paychecks created financial difficulties for his young production team members.

"These kids are living with mom, working off debts," he said. "Some people were not able to pay bills or buy groceries."

JETT HOSTS A weekday show that frequently features bisexual entertainer Sandra Bernhard as a guest star. The show provides programming dedicated to counter culture guests, including musicians, sex workers, actors and performance artists.

"Queer Edge" had a production crew of eight people, which by industry standards is small. Jett said his team was totally dedicated to the show, even coming to work after they were told there were no forthcoming paychecks.

"One of the ladies that runs the place told us to all leave, because [the unpaid workers] were considered a liability," said Jett.

According to Jett, management watched the newly unemployed staff leave the building, ensuring that nothing was taken off the premises, including samples of their own work.

"We’re all a very tight-knit group," he said. "Suddenly, you’re made to feel like a nuisance."

Jett said he never saw the current financial difficulties coming. According to the show host, QTN spent $100,000 on a party at this year’s Sundance Film Festival in Salt Lake City, Utah during the last week of January. By the first week of February, everyone was told programming was on hiatus and paychecks weren’t being handed out.

Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-media Limited, launched in September 2004, and "Queer Edge" debuted on the network at the same time. The station is available to the public through subscription and programming runs 24 hours every day. The channel is available through Cox, RCN, Time Warner and Bright House networks in Birmingham, Ala., Eureka, Calif., San Diego, Calif., San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and all of Massachusetts, and through satellite with C-Band Intelsat. Both Cox and RCN are minority cable providers in D.C. and northern Virginia. Comcast, the area’s major provider, does not carry the channel.

The station airs gay- and lesbian-related movies, documentaries, news programming and human interest shows. QTN is also the official network of Gay Games VII that take place in Chicago during July.
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge. [Smile]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
So Reichen is still with Q huh?
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
On Q Live just came on and they announced as part of the show that today is Friday, March 10th, so this is a live show too and looks to be running as usual.

These are the two hosting the show (Robbie Laughlin and Saskia Webber).
 -
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
So Reichen is still with Q huh?

Yup!
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Thanks for the updates Sam!!!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
nice good too hear. thanks Sam

has anything been on for ON Q live?

if so has there been any mention of the new CEO?

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge. [Smile]


 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
nice good too hear. thanks Sam

has anything been on for ON Q live?

if so has there been any mention of the new CEO?

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge. [Smile]


You're welcome.
On Q Live was just a normal show (nothing really notable). There was no mention of the new CEO.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge ... On Q Live was just a normal show (nothing really notable). There was no mention of the new CEO.

Thanks, Sam. Good info. Appears that Fan is trying to get Q back on track. [Smile]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available. Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder. Regards, Richard Brown

Thanks, Doc. Good news. [Smile]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That sounds familiar... "I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money! [Big Grin]

GB
It's true we've heard this all before ... but from a different "mouth". So, let's give the new guy a chance to prove himself. [Smile]
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
If our new CEO turns QBID around,I will start a FAN club!!! LOL
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Thanks Sam.

So you did hear them talking of "current events"?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey Rich, if he r/s, thats not all you will start. Unfortunately you'll have to start buying and building your share count up as well. And that thought just burns my ass.

Oh well....if it happens I just hope the share price cheap.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
... alot is going to depend on how they do the r/s. if it only effects the outstanding shares and not the approved shares, then it is not a good thing for us. if they reduce the A/S accordingly and dont dilute anymore then the r/s could be good for us. it will all depend on what the intent of the r/s is for. for examble, a 35,000- 1 r/s should increase the value of each share to about $3.50 a share. with an A/S of 10 million shares. this would allow them to move to another exchange if they could hold that value.
but if they where to increase the A/S again and start selling shares, then they are going to see the price drop off rapidly and we will be back to these levels rather fast. there is a lot to consider. there is no guaranty as to how it would go down, but historically speaking, a r/s usually does not have a good effect on the stock holders. we are however in a situation where I dont believe that they have any other choice but to r/s. it would cost this gentleman 10- 15 million to buyback and retire enough to make a buyback worth while, and that would be over and above the money he had to invest to get his majority stake in the company. anything is possible, but this is very unlikely in my honest opinion. Rod

Good points, Rod.

But I don't believe a reverse split is necessary to get Q off the pinksheets, if they just want to move to the OTC Bulletin Board (OB-status). To do that, all they have to do is start reporting honestly. I think this would spike the PPS all by itself.

Many former pinks are now on the OTC-BB and are trading well above a penny. Unfortunately, moving to the OTC-BB doesn't guarentee a PPS spike, but being a reporting company does open the door to many positives.

I believe that moving to a higher exchange such as NASDAQ, however, would require a PPS of at least $1.00 for a continuing period of time. I don't know why Q would want to move any higher than the NASDAQ, since it has as much status as the NYSE, and moving to the American or NYSE would require jumping a lot more hurdles. In my opinion, the NASDAQ should be Q's primary goal ... but not too quickly.

I think Q should just concentrate on being a reporting company as soon as possible, WITHOUT a reverse split. Then let the PPS gravitate to a true value naturally. After regaining corporate credibility, Q can then do what is needed to move from pinksheets to the OTC-BB. After that, it depends on Q's true success. If the Gay Games are good for them, we could see rapid improvement soon afterward.

My theories (and that's all they are) are based on my concern about artificially manipulating the PPS just to move to another exchange. Any manipulation seems a bit dishonest to me, although I understand why it can be necessary.

But for now, any manipulation of Q's reputation is a negative. All they really have to do is confirm their status as an emerging network and prove they have the horsepower to pull it off. Frank and staff apparently were the weakest links in Q's success, and our future with Q now depends on Fan's honesty and his ability to fix a lot of problems. The last thing I want to see is more artificial repairs for the sake of appearances.

I still like Frank's dream, although it appears he screwed it up. Let's hope that the dream was real and that new management can make it happen.

Just my opinion, everyone. I still own shares and will continue to think positively because dumping shares now does not make sense to me. Therefore, I will continue to "believe" my Q investment has a chance for success. But I also won't be buying new shares until I see a light at the end of the tunnel ... and can confirm that light is not a freight train heading my way.

GL to all. [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Bottomliner. that was a great summation.

very nicely written and thought out. I agree with you 100%. i was not considering a move to the OTC when i wrote that message, but you are absolutely right.

just being honest about the books and reporting, even if the company is going through some rough points, is going to yield a higher pps then it is now, just because people can assess thier risks better with the numbers.

right now they have no numbers no info so they have to assume the worst value on the company and hence our current pps.

thanks for taking the time to put that all together and posting.

You are greatly appreciated for your common sense.

Rod
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
man this site has improved a lot with the new server that Bob installed this week.

it is very snappy and fast again.

i started a new thread to thank Bob for doing this and spending the money to keep Allstocks alive and healthy.

here is the link if you want to make comment to bob.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/019818.html


Rod
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Thanks Sam.

So you did hear them talking of "current events"?

Sorry. I wasn’t paying real close attention to their conversations, and I’m not very good at current events anyway. One of their guests had “Just come back from Sundance,” and my understanding (from their web site) is that the Sundance Film Festival ended January 29th. That made me wonder if parts of the show had been recorded earlier – but they did announce the date at the beginning of the show as Friday, the tenth of March.
 
Posted by pappy on :
 
If we had a r/s of 5000-1 asuming the float is 50 bil that would make the float aprox 10 mil which is up there with Microsoft. MSFT has the largest float of any NSYE stock and Q would skyrocket with a float like that imo.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
no the price per share would drop because tha artificial bottom .0001 wont let this stock move to it's true value..000001
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.

Frank has pushed us into a situation of perception
over reality--we don't know the o/s or anything other than what is on the air, and the published contracts.

I also agree with bottomliner.

IMO, the best way to build confidence in this
company would be to avoid r/s and open the books.

Providing a detailed financial plan for investors to see strategic steps for a steady increase in the pps would be our new starting point.

That would demonstrate that Mr. Fan is cognizant
of the need to build and to maintain a positive relationship with loyal investors/viewers--present and potential.

Without a Trace ended their show last week with two female lovers kissing. As more networks provide more diverse programing, Q will need to offer more than just programing for a targeted audience.

We are getting more competition every day.......

New CEO's always come in and clean house. A fresh start is expected. This time, how about a fresh start without the causalities?

How they accomplish the restructuring with Q could be equally important as the financial plan.

Fan needs to mend fences and stop the rumor mill!

IMO, he will need to develop a positive relationship within his targeted community and with all other investors, too.

As an example, look at Steve Jobs relationship to Apple investors--they trust him.

Again, IMO, probably two to four years may be needed for QBID to reach its stride. Big business will want to see results after these two years of promises and wild rumors.


Mr. Fan's business experience would include financials, negotiations and client relations,contracts, strategic plans and decisions.

A large part of QBID'S base goes beyond business the as usual.

From information posted on boards and statements from Frank, Q's employees and many of the investors have a personal committment to Q.


Frank's approach was much more about personal promises and much less about business (unfortunately).

Dismissed workers almost always feel a sense of betrayal and anger even with compensation for work--without compensation, think postal.

Aside from financial interventions, there needs to be treatment of the wounds inflicted on them and good-faith efforts to promote trust and healing--that could bring closure to the Frank era.

The last thing that Q needs is constant horror stories circulating from angry past employees and vendors.

We need more than a new chapter--we need a new book that truly values the employees and the investors. We need the stain erased from our reputation.

Even if the employees are paid for their past services, would they want to work there again without actually seeing the books?

Plus, if they were also paid with stocks, an r/s would be just more fuel on the resentment fires.

Can QBID rise from the ashes?

With POSITIVE steps to address all of the issues, it could move past this stumble and draw strength from its problematic past.

Much depends on Mr. Fan's understanding of the complexities of this stock, his values and the depth of his pockets.......


He probably has not had sufficient time to complete an audit or a plan.

Just an acknowledgement of the investors situation and his committment to addressing these issues in a fair, progressive manner could begin the building process.

GLTA [Smile]
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
We do know the share count is 350 bil, and shares are being sold down to .0000 by the owner of the company.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
asuming and agreeing ..................... it will never end.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
It's the same Investor Relations guy...

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That sounds familiar... "I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money! [Big Grin]

GB
It's true we've heard this all before ... but from a different "mouth". So, let's give the new guy a chance to prove himself. [Smile]


 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.
 
Posted by JimS on :
 
Well thought out and articulate Jenn. Thanks. BTW, warm (85 degrees) and sunny at the pool today.
 
Posted by mikensay on :
 
Wow! you've got some great points and some positive "blatant speculation".

The only quesiton I have to the above is what kind of expanded role is Richard having? I thought he worked for another company and just handled the investor relations side of things. Just looking for clarification, is he becoming part of TMM/QTN?


Thanks again for the post JenniferCD10
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] regular ol fashion new york style cheese cake pwease [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Right on Doc, i'd like to hear from him too.

quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly" [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Good one Doc!!

I agree!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
we will hear from him in time.


he is still going through all the unknowns that he has to deal with.

I'm sure he is going through the "oh shiit what have i got my self into" stage. anyone that has bought thier first fixer upper house knows what i mean.

he is going through bills, and wages and all the stuff that was hid from him, and figuring how he is going to go about fixing this all.

its hard for him to come out and tell us everything is going to be OK until he has a full handle on what it is he needs to do to make it OK.

he knows that we have been here a long time, he knows that we have been misled, he knows that we are not going to accepting of everything that he says, so he will want to make sure he know for sure what he has to do and if it is possible to make this thing work, before he starts talking to us.

if he is half the businessman that Jenn described above, he is going to want to make sure that he has something solid that he can lay out for us. He needs to gain the confidence of the investors, the employees, the customers, and the carriers, and i dont expect him to have all the answers available to us hours after taking control.

he needs the time to lay out the plans, find out who is working with him, and who is working against him, what has to tackled first and what can be put on the back burners.


he is restructuring the company from the ground up, and you dont come up with that plan with only one or 2 meetings.

he may need to hire consultants, and analysts and take a month before everything is laid out.

for now i am just happy to know that we are not facing a bankruptcy right away.

i will let them take the time they need to get this strategy in place. Anything is going to be better then the way Frank ran the circus.

i would suspect that we will hear something from Fan this coming week, but it will not be the informative pr that everyone is hoping for.

it will be more of a Hi my name in Lloyd, i have assembled a task force to attack these concerns, our plan is to make this the biggest and the best, we will inform you as thing progress. we are here working for you. thanks for your patience and support

or something to that effect.

we will not see immediate turn around on this. so anyone looking for that should stop expecting that as you will be greatly disappointed.

this is not going to happen over night.

Mr Fan has a huge task ahead of him. Damage control is harder then building from scratch.

Thanks for your informative view on this Jenn, i enjoyed your post.

we will be here for a while guys, so grab a drink and get comfy

Rod
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Mr. Fan should know of all of the pitfalls. I hope he and his people can get this mess straightened out very quickly.

Fly
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Awesome post Jenn!!

I'm glad to see you come out from lurking!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
did anyone that has spoke with Richard ask if Frank has any interest in this still?

is he completely out of the picture?

I would feel better if he is not in the office anymore, i dont care if he still holds shares, i just want him completely out of the picture as far as the operations of the company go.

Rod
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
agree
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
You should get Richard's job.

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.


 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Jenn for IR!!!!!
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Doc you have a PM
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
More of my opinion…

Mr. Fan must get Q together ASAP. The Gay Games are a mere 4 months away. In the media business, this timeframe is getting short. He also probably feels that he has to get Q to a point that he can leave for a couple of weeks and know Q will be moving forward. Therefore, one of his top priorities, if not the top priority, now is acquiring trusted upper management to carry forward Q and his agenda. IMO, Mr. Fan will be in Burbank for the next week or two before the pressures of his other interests require him to return to Taiwan. I believe that before he departs we will have had a few communications containing much needed and cherished information. His need for damage control directed to the investors, cable carriers, advertisers, Gay Games, employees, potentially new cable regions that were ready but are withholding because of Franks mess, Verizon, SelecTv (to start broadcasting late this month) and many more is imperative.

Frank attempted to run a business that grew well beyond his ability to handle it. Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it. He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues. All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record.

I am being careful to not let the pain of Frank discolor my view of Mr. Fan. I feel better now then in many months. Anxiety has yielded to hope and the sweet perfume of optimism has replaced the stench gloom. I do feel excited about Q. It’s been a long time and it feels good. I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion of Q, but to just voice my thoughts and feelings.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
did anyone that has spoke with Richard ask if Frank has any interest in this still?

is he completely out of the picture?

I would feel better if he is not in the office anymore, i dont care if he still holds shares, i just want him completely out of the picture as far as the operations of the company go.

Rod

Rod I'm sure you'll agree that from our experience, it's not a matter of asking Richard for that kind of information anymore, but rather just keeping an eye open as to what is officially documented with the WA S.O.S. lol
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
It's the same Investor Relations guy...

GB
I understand that Q apparently has the same "messenger" (Richard Brown), but most messengers can only deliver the messages given to them. I have worked in the PR field and have had to say "no comment" many times when I knew a straight answer was needed ... for everyone's sake. So I respect Richard's position and have no problem with his past work.

I know some people have been critical of his IHub posts, but I don't see that as a problem related to his job with Q. Just my opinion, of course.

My main concern now is how well Mr. Fan will communicate with his shareholders ... and when. Like most other shareholders, I feel Frank has treated us like mushrooms--kept in the dark and covered with organic equine fertilizer. I expect much better treatment from Mr. Fan, but only time will tell. Until then, I'm back to waiting ... again ... again ... again.

GL to us all. [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
oh i agree but i always find it humourous to ask questions he is not allowed to answer lol

just to get his reaction.

Rod
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends ...

Jennifer
Very well said. Thanks for your thoughts. [Smile]
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Jen....good post. However i have some questions. now, as a former shareholder who got out once the sight of massive dillution, and no audit i even STILL think sometimes of getting back in.

this is the thing though....over 100 BILLION shares...300 or so you say A/S? yeah i know they are not O/S but...

ok so we had PRs stating PRIVATE funding...many people felt some big pockets were investing. was that a lie? if it wasnt then why so much financing? maybe i just cant comprehend how expensive it is to get this going. i can not fathom a buyback of shares when the amount is hundreds of billions. its almost another CMKX story...the little company that could.

however, there IS a market and a heartbeat left. personally i thinkthe former CEO was selfish to not be more open with company workers, and shareholders about what was going on. anyone remember that audit that was supposed to come out in what...october/november? remember how everyone was SO ANXIOUS!?

i just dont see how we can slash and cut down this HUGE share count without a R/S. id say between 60 and 75 to 1 is what would need to be done. even then you are still in the good billions. I would like to see no more than 2 billion O/S

how on earth are the big boys going to want to play with sloppy books and more shares than the world population?


i would like to see Q make it, and in fact i may get back in at .0001 just because it cant go ANY LOWER....sounds pretty bad? im actually thinking about investing in a stock because it cant go any lower.....wow

but...Q DOES have potential...yes sir it does. this new guy....what are his past accomplishments? has he ever taken on a challenge under pressure and milked the utters of success?
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Bottomliner,
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
BL,
What are you doing up so late?
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Dear Moo,
As a member of the world population, I want to thank you for that udderly delightful post. Just don't milk it too much!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
wow quiet in here today lol

i mean udderly ridiculous how quiet it is

[Razz]
 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Morning everyone,

As I said before, I am presently sitting on the sidelines on a tangled debate with myself on whether to get back in or not. I think JenCD wrote an excellent article along with both Rod and Doc's opinion. Rod and I have seen transformation from a brutal company to a company with profit and respect for its employees. We work that company. We saw the growing pains including taking out the SR VP who was classified as a tyrant.

Changes where not made overnight, but over 3 year’s time. The difference between who we work for and Q is about 10 billion dollars and growing world wide. Seeing is believing. Mr.Fan does have his work cut out for him and once he has released some strategies, the picture hopefully will become much clearer. As the song says “should I stay or should I go now” which was I believe written by Nash the Slash.

Q can have many possibilities but that string is to be yet unraveled. I have to agree with JenCD that if Mr.Fan has a large vested interest in this company then I am sure he has done his homework, leaving no loopholes for Fat Frank to slither through.

Judging from how the take over was done, it looks like it was a hostel one at that as Fat boy did not do his conversion to preferred shares leaving him some safety and got caught with his pants down. (Not a pretty sight I am sure). If Frank got screwed out of this deal then good for Fan, it’s about time someone turned the table the other way.

The only part of Jen's theory I am wrestling with is the 2 to 3 cents. Based on what is presently at hand, Fan will have a challenge just to get back up to .002 to .003. Although a reverse split does look ineveitable at the moment, it would also create certain death. The showing fo enrichment and value to the shareholders will be where certainy can be built on before an RS can be looked at as a plus.

All this being said, this has now become a wait and see game. Good luck to everyone.
 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Did the edit to make it easier to read.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA [Smile]

OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
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Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.


Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand [Wink]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
millertime you need a lesson in public relations.

this was the most ignorant post i have ever seen from someone trying to correct someone else's post.

there was no respect for the person you where trying to correct, and no cooth to your message.

you could have been a lot nicer about it.

You may know how a r/s works but you have absolutely no feelings about others feelings.

this was plain ignorant the way you spilled this out.

your message is right but your delivery plain sucked.

your first line stated you are going to say this as nice as you can, but to me it looks like you went way out of your way to be as ignorant as you could.

a little public relations training would do you marvels.

I was not trying to be nice in this post.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA [Smile]

OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
ahhahahaah
ahahaahahahahaha
ahahaahahhaah
aahahahhahahaahahahah
ahahaahahahaha
aahahahahahahahahahaahahha
ahaahahah

Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Dew-it,

I know it is only an oppinion on your part but why would Loyd buy a company to bankrupt it? Some of the statements you made would be in conflict would they not? Really that makes no sense. In order to solidify any knowledge we have, we will have to wait for a PR from Loyd stating the company assets.

Now I can see settling debt and reorganization to take the company forward. I am sure if Fan took Q from Frank, it would have been for pennies on the dollar as that is all it is worth and not the imaginary numbers Frank thinks of.

I am dam sure Franks reputation as a slime ball is world renoun and trust is something that Fan would not have had for Frank. That is not my opinion but is fact that Frank has made clear to the general public in legal PR's he released. Frank may be cheezy and sleezy but I am sure Fan taught him a lesson in real bussines.

My hat is off for the Fan Man.


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.


 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Let's all hope for a PR next week. Then I will be doing the FANdango!!!
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Buck,

What I meant was that Lloyd has the option to spin-off QTN from TMM because they are operating as separate companies. This is speculation on my part because we don’t know whether or not QTN is actually an asset of TMM (QBID)… I know, I know, we have PRs from Frankie, but I don’t believe them. We never got an audit that would explain this. Therefore, Lloyd has the option to keep QTN under different ticker (remember the 75K shares) or keep it private and get rid of all the TMM (QBID) "assets” or reverse split QBID shares or whatever. We don’t know what QBID assets/debt are worth. I am looking at this from a purely business perspective, not Frankie’s “dream.” IMO, if Lloyd is a sure fire hard-nose business type, he will rape and pillage and keep what he believes is the money maker and sell off everything else that is not core to his plan. The problem lies with the manner in which Frankie lined up and separated the TMM/QTN organization. Which, I think was an attempt by Frankie to try to and screw everyone, including investors. In the long run it seems Frankie screwed himself. Again, this speculation, God knows what kind of deal Frankie the Fraudster worked with Lloyd.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
millertime you need a lesson in public relations ...

Rod
Good try but wasted effort, I'm afraid. Learning requires an open mind ... and the ability to retain information. I haven't seen evidence of either lately. But I do have an explanation for his recent post:

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I wouldn't think this FANdango dance could be done on sand...we're gonna need solid ground. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
business as usual...


it's still all just a pr...


same lack of information to shareholders--from the company OR the 'investor relations' (using that term about as loosely as it can be used) guy.

i have called on mr. fan to release the information that he knows about this PUBLIC company that WE OWN and have FUNDED.

i have asked richard (ir) brown to behave like an investor relations fellow and tell us when can we expect the paperwork to be filed with the state of Washington installing Fan, and removing Olsen.


i've said here many times that UNCERTAINTY is killing this stock. unless and until some of those uncertainties are removed, this thing won't move. who would "invest" new money into the bottomless abyss of unknown that we are right now?

well, we'll see what (if anything) will be revealed--OFFICIALLY--this week.
...not an email about the "foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"WHEN APPROPRIATE" ??????? it's not appropriate NOW????????

"process will take some time" ??????? how many more YEARS????????


lol...if it wasn't so sad. good luck all....
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Interesting how Olsen's (Olson's) staunchest supporters, who defended him vehemently as the best thing since sliced bread, opined for hours about how brilliant he is as a business man, and outright attacked anyone who said different, are now refering to him as slimy, a liar, a horrible business man, good riddance, etc. And, interestingly, are now talking up the new guy (Fan) as if he is the latest greatest best thing, when in fact we know little to nothing about him. Call it 'being positive' if you want, only a gay stock could be this over-the-top dramatic.
Too funny! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Well heres my take Mr Fan just wants his products on tv so he can sell them, so you buy Qtv firer all, and start anew. Now whats the best way to do that? BK QBID, R/S The shares, What will COX,RCN.ECT think of this? Hell they might like it. Mr Fan sells the rights to the gay games to LOGO for some fast cash? Well any thoughts on this one???
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Imak, you may be on to something. Buy for dirt cheap/hostile takeover TMM, part it out, sell the pieces, including rights to gay games, take what's left (QTV) and turn it into a shopping channel. Hmmm, as good a speculation as any...
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Question: Is Mr. Fan a gay businessman. In other words, is a gay television a dream he would like to make happen? If he's not gay will he turn it into another LOGO? Or is he a sharp business man who sees an opportunity? Or is he not a smart business man who got taken by Frank?

OR?
OR?
OR?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
[Wink] [Big Grin] [Roll Eyes]


quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
millertime you need a lesson in public relations ...

Rod
Good try but wasted effort, I'm afraid. Learning requires an open mind ... and the ability to retain information. I haven't seen evidence of either lately. But I do have an explanation for his recent post:

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

[Roll Eyes]


 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
I have some problems with Jen's post's. First she mentioned that "Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it." I have yet to see anything that is real about Mr. Fan's current companies in Taiwan and their pocket's, nor have i see any information reguarding his respecitibility in Asia.

2) "He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues." How so? because a PR told us so? I have not seen a resume nor have i seen any useful information that points to what the guy has done in the SouthWest region of ASIA.

3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?

Please dont misunderstand, im not tring to bash the girl, i merely wish to see evidence of the claims that she has made. An article from a respectible news source, a financial page of some kinda, id even take a resume at this point. Where are you getting your information from Jen? Because from where i sit now your basing your whole argument off one PR, from a company that is known to put out dishonest PR's reguardless of a new CEO being at the helm or not.

Id would just like to see proof of what you obviously feel so strongly towards. I'm just asking you to back up your claims is all.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Fair enough.

how bout it Jenn. where are you basing your statements from.

MM makes some really good points.

I would like to see more info about this mans credentials.

it bothers me that we have not been able to find out more about this individual.

how do you gain such respect and not be able to find the man on the internet?

Please share with us the info you have on Mr Fan.

thanks in advance Jenn.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
I have some problems with Jen's post's. First she mentioned that "Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it." I have yet to see anything that is real about Mr. Fan's current companies in Taiwan and their pocket's, nor have i see any information reguarding his respecitibility in Asia.

2) "He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues." How so? because a PR told us so? I have not seen a resume nor have i seen any useful information that points to what the guy has done in the SouthWest region of ASIA.

3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?

Please dont misunderstand, im not tring to bash the girl, i merely wish to see evidence of the claims that she has made. An article from a respectible news source, a financial page of some kinda, id even take a resume at this point. Where are you getting your information from Jen? Because from where i sit now your basing your whole argument off one PR, from a company that is known to put out dishonest PR's reguardless of a new CEO being at the helm or not.

Id would just like to see proof of what you obviously feel so strongly towards. I'm just asking you to back up your claims is all.


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Interesting how Olsen's (Olson's) staunchest supporters, who defended him vehemently as the best thing since sliced bread, opined for hours about how brilliant he is as a business man, and outright attacked anyone who said different, are now refering to him as slimy, a liar, a horrible business man, good riddance, etc. And, interestingly, are now talking up the new guy (Fan) as if he is the latest greatest best thing, when in fact we know little to nothing about him. Call it 'being positive' if you want, only a gay stock could be this over-the-top dramatic.
Too funny! [Big Grin]

LEO
Opinions ... like decisions ... must be based on the most current information at hand. At one time, Frank appeared personally and professionally credible and capable of running the Q organization. However, "current information" has altered this perception for many people ... including me.

I still believe that Frank honestly had a dream of creating a network aimed at the GLBT market, but it now appears he did not have the ability to make it happen. So, "current information" has changed my opinion of his management ability. I see nothing incongruous about changing my opinion when there is a reason for doing so. Continuing to support Frank's "brilliance" as a businessman would be much more ludicrous at this point.

As for Mr. Fan: Although I know nothing about him and therefore cannot form an accurate opinion of him, I see him as being "better than" Frank at this point and "better than" means "improvement" and "improvement" means "positive" and ... well, I think you get the picture.

Based on current information (what little than is), I prefer to see the glass half full rather than half empty. But the bottomline is ... I am not making any decisons based on the limited information available at the present time.

By the way, although most of us are not "happy" with Frank right now, we still don't know enough about him and his management of Q to judge him fairly. He may actually be a brilliant man with bad luck ... or whatever. Who knows for sure? Not me. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Good points MM. I have wondered the same. And I would like to highlight for a moment:

"...3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?..."

Something I've noticed a lot of before are people (Not just Jen) who write that we "must have faith in," "must belive in," need to trust," and many other things I expect to hear when discussing religion, not a stock.

I too would like to know WHY we should TRUST this new guy.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
We shouldnt he has to earn that.
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Exactly PT!!!

And Bottomliner, one of the things I appreciate about your postings is that you remind us that we really don't know enough to know anything. Thanks for helping to 'keep it real'.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
JENN, A+ for spelling. B in grammatic structuring. D for factual references.
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
Heres another thing that bothers me. There was an article in the chicago tribune (sp) about the ability to search the internet and finding about 2500 CIA employee's, and 10 bases across the nation. 20 + were actual undercover agents. I think the story was run yesturday, and you have to be a registered member to view it now.

The point being if i can google and find CIA operatives yet i can't find a "well respected" business man in Asia, something seems a little fishy to me. Granted CIA probably isnt the best at keeping up with technological changes BUT STILL, something just dosent seem right here.

Chicago Tribune link
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Here's a far-fetched speculation MM; Mr. Fan is another of Olsen's (Olson's) long list of supposed aliases.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
mm my point exactly.

i think it is a very appropriate time for Fan to start talking to us

Rod
 
Posted by pappy on :
 
At some point Frank had to step aside imo.
Companies like this go thru transitions.I belive Frank has gone as far as he is capable of and its time for someone else to help, someone with expereince at the next level.
My wifes company she worked for just went thru a similar transition the only differance was the transition co bought them out to start with.
They took this co and restructured it so it could be sold to the big boys. They owned it for two years and sold it to Dover Corp.
IMO this is a similar type of sitituation exepct we have a interum CEO instead to help to get to the next level. Hopefuly Fan is the one.
 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Dew-it,

I see where you are going with this and can see both sides of the coin. Now one thing I want to bring up is your comments on the PR's and glad you did.

Seeing as PR's are considered legal statements, both Fat Boy and Fan can be held responsible for them. Fan has absorbed the responsibility for Frank writing them. The disclaimer for Q does not disseminate anyone from fraud. This puts the shareholders back in the driver’s seat in a sort of a way. I don’t think he will rape the shareholders as he will be counting on them for support and growth if he plans on getting anywhere.

As we do have a PR we own everything, any attempt to separate them would give us the legal right to a chunk of the subsidiary. If say Fan was to make a new company and just move the assets to clean things up, I am sure the courts would be very interested in the shareholders peril. I don’t think he will do that.

One thing I am still pondering on is having a chat with the IRS and pointing out a few things to them about Frank. I would encourage the rest of you to do the same. Falsely creating expenses is one I am sure they could nail him for. Suspicion would be enough for them to dig there teeth into.I don’t care if they took everything he has or even if they took nothing, but just to put his Fat Azz through the ringer and create some discomfort him would make us all smile.

I can honestly say he was not a dignitary for the GLBT or anyone else. To say he was or is would be an outright insult.


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Buck,

What I meant was that Lloyd has the option to spin-off QTN from TMM because they are operating as separate companies. This is speculation on my part because we don’t know whether or not QTN is actually an asset of TMM (QBID)… I know, I know, we have PRs from Frankie, but I don’t believe them. We never got an audit that would explain this. Therefore, Lloyd has the option to keep QTN under different ticker (remember the 75K shares) or keep it private and get rid of all the TMM (QBID) "assets” or reverse split QBID shares or whatever. We don’t know what QBID assets/debt are worth. I am looking at this from a purely business perspective, not Frankie’s “dream.” IMO, if Lloyd is a sure fire hard-nose business type, he will rape and pillage and keep what he believes is the money maker and sell off everything else that is not core to his plan. The problem lies with the manner in which Frankie lined up and separated the TMM/QTN organization. Which, I think was an attempt by Frankie to try to and screw everyone, including investors. In the long run it seems Frankie screwed himself. Again, this speculation, God knows what kind of deal Frankie the Fraudster worked with Lloyd.


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Imak, you may be on to something. Buy for dirt cheap/hostile takeover TMM, part it out, sell the pieces, including rights to gay games, take what's left (QTV) and turn it into a shopping channel. Hmmm, as good a speculation as any...

A shopping network?...no way! That would never happen. I would think that he realizes there is no room for another shopping network. Hell the gay shop no different than straight when it comes to goods.
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
hahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, stopped posting when I asked you to explain who inbut lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [Big Grin] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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MT, rude??? [Eek!]

That was not the word that came to my mind.

Which does remind me, do be careful with the bottom disfiguring laughter!

You may need something to sit on--both you and

your friends--possibly the "we" friends who with you bring dd to the board.

Remember, you mentioned them on the last thread?


------------------------------------------------
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I'm flattered than you wrote such a long post in response to my theoretical statement which was not addressed to you.

My response concerning an r/s was to pappy--not to you.

I used the word "should" not will--but you know that. Errr, you should know that.

Depending on when a purchase is made and sold--immediately after a split--profits can be made for those who are able to get in and out quickly. Try it some time.

But your comments were not really about stocks, were they?

Baby, you will have to try harder if you are going to try to "cut me up".

In my past work experiences, I have dealt with
numerous bad boys--real ones--not the want-to-be variety. [Wink]

In regard to profit taking, I did not say that
those holding could make a profit. That would depend on the purchase price and the r/s.

Not expecting statements to be taken out of the context of the entire post, I didn't elaborate.

However, I did write several paragraphs explaining why an r/s would be bad for us. Did you read them?

BTW, are you still in--how many shares?


In the future, I will try to be careful to write in a more simplistic style to help you avoid jumping to conclusions.

Or, could bullets help you?

I could add them to the end of my posts.

Posts are written with black script on a white background that create gray areas--inferences.

MT, an impulsive, attack reaction "could" be a plus alone on a dark city street.

However, within a social context................
.........save your sympathy for yourself.....you
are "probably" going to need it for a long time or
at least until you allow yourself to grow up.

BTW, there are probably many excellent practitioners in your area who could help you along the way.


Now, do you need to get your "lick" back?

Is that what it takes for you?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

Leo I know you are just trying to stay positive but I just can't see Q being profitable this late in the game of home shopping networks.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Maybe a pr early in the morning will put some light on what is really going on with QBID!!

All the speculation has been fun though.

I am ready for a master plan to bring Q up out of the ashes!!!

At least I hope that is what Fan is trying to do!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
I have some problems with Jen's post's. First she mentioned that "Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it." I have yet to see anything that is real about Mr. Fan's current companies in Taiwan and their pocket's, nor have i see any information reguarding his respecitibility in Asia.

2) "He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues." How so? because a PR told us so? I have not seen a resume nor have i seen any useful information that points to what the guy has done in the SouthWest region of ASIA.

3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?

Please dont misunderstand, im not tring to bash the girl, i merely wish to see evidence of the claims that she has made. An article from a respectible news source, a financial page of some kinda, id even take a resume at this point. Where are you getting your information from Jen? Because from where i sit now your basing your whole argument off one PR, from a company that is known to put out dishonest PR's reguardless of a new CEO being at the helm or not.

Id would just like to see proof of what you obviously feel so strongly towards. I'm just asking you to back up your claims is all.

MM I agree...we do need proof of his experience in matters of business. Thats cut and dry.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Jenn I know you are trying to stay positive, but like most, throughout the chinese business market news media I have searched, and sent emails for information, only to find nothing.

Now don't get me wrong, I am long as well. And I have the patience it will take for my reward, it's just that in my routine of initial research.... I found nothing.

At least not enough to substantiate your speculation. lol
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Here's a far-fetched speculation MM; Mr. Fan is another of Olsen's (Olson's) long list of supposed aliases.

Not far fetched at all really. I honestly don't think ANYONE would think that it's far fetched Leo.

But then again....we'll just have to keep waiting to find out huh?
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
LOL, at this point it would almost be par for the course, eh QBID'n!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Bottom line....a PR, a new CEO or a clean slate don't mean jack UNTIL WE SEE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTED PROOF and not a damn bit less.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
[Big Grin] But I still have faith. [Wink]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I did too till i read your last couple of posts im outta here this is scarry


lol joking im long to.

im expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

rod


quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
[Big Grin] But I still have faith. [Wink]


 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
lets face it...in my opinion this stock is in a coma, and its going to take some high speed doctors to bring it out. even when one does come out of a coma there are lasting side effects, and recovery takes time and SACRIFICES. QBID.PK is in a coma.


what would those sacrifices be? well...i suggested a R/S and that is one that looks unavoidable. sure someone said it would destroy the company at .0001 but what else are you going to do? ohhhh buyback shares? hundreds of billions of shares? do you know how long that would take? do you know how much mony that would cost? ohhhh but they SHOULD have revenue soon. SHOULD being the key word because nothing is for sure moment. Well so what if we do get revenues? obviously it is REALLY expensive to run things, and those revenues will be helping the company break even.

QBID had a bad doctor, and all you staunch frank supporters better rethink your thoughts. sure frank was a nice man and i dont doubt that, but he did make mistakes and thats ok because most companies do when they start out.

i have not watched any Q programming to compare it with say logo. I probably wont subscribe just because im not really into that whole lifestyle so that is an area i am foggy in. has anyone been able to compare networks? i wonder if the big boys in their decision making rooms see anyone else a better investment now. we need superior management now to pull us out.


of course my opinion only
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Cow you seem to be one of the only few with issues concerning Frank. Well guess what?...we've moved on. lol [Big Grin] Catch up man. We no longer care about Frank and the past. We are are now trying to cordially come together and discuss our position today.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
qbidn i dont hav issues with frank and my focus was never on him. what are you talking about
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
I did too till i read your last couple of posts im outta here this is scarry


lol joking im long to.

im expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

rod


quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
[Big Grin] But I still have faith. [Wink]


Just trying to keep my feet on the ground Rod. Reality with this investment is a much clearer vision when you have only spent what you could afford. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey anyone who's interested, don't forget the Sapranos new season starts tonight at 9:00 Eastern. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by coolbreeze1988 on :
 
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
lol Cow...let's just look forward and hope for the best. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Eddie: "...ey Tony, I got a problem"

Tony: "What! I gotta wipe ya ass too, diami una rottura?!"


aahahaha ...the man is hillarious! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
So lets assume a r/s is a definite possibility and no other way around it... what is the only way to recover from a reverse spit for you longs? or is it the end of the game?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
"....end of the game?"

What is the definition of "long" in YOUR encyclopedia?! lol [Big Grin]
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
19,987,600M
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
not the end game.


profits, a reduced share structure and better management will make a healthy stock...OH and REPORTING...FULLY. NEW EXCHANGE!!!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I'd like to have more really. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey where did you go? hehehehe [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Okay folks, 5 minutes til showtime.

Gotta get the milk and cookies ready. Later. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
what is in 5 min?
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
as of last week i sold my remaining 275000 and although it is not as much as some of you guys here i bought the majority at .0019 and stupidly bought more at .0006 and then again at .0001.
i hope things turn around but if it gets worse then at least i am not loosing any more money. I think if this stock ever goes up even to .0002 then the majority of investors will sell anyway.
its a loosing situation
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
glooz thats why you never...NEVER..average down. i used to do that, but quickly learned it was a death trap. now i only buy into runs if...and IF i can catch them early enough.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!

cool
All standing orders get cancelled prior to the effective date of the split. Usually, you and your broker will know in advance about the split and can prepare for it. To further prevent any errors, the stock symbol will change temporarily for a month or so. However, check your account prior to the effective date to protect yourself from any errors. [Smile]
 
Posted by qlooz on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
glooz thats why you never...NEVER..average down. i used to do that, but quickly learned it was a death trap. now i only buy into runs if...and IF i can catch them early enough.

____________________________________________________
Lesson learned
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

Leo,

I think there is no way a new shopping network can compete with QVC and the other shopping networks that are already well established and running efficiently—unless they are selling products specifically focused on a niche market such as the GLBT community. Even then, they should probably limit the time spent on it to just a few hours a day.
 
Posted by coolbreeze1988 on :
 
Bottom - that's good to know. Thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!

cool
All standing orders get cancelled prior to the effective date of the split. Usually, you and your broker will know in advance about the split and can prepare for it. To further prevent any errors, the stock symbol will change temporarily for a month or so. However, check your account prior to the effective date to protect yourself from any errors. [Smile]


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

Leo,

I think there is no way a new shopping network can compete with QVC and the other shopping networks that are already well established and running efficiently—unless they are selling products specifically focused on a niche market such as the GLBT community. Even then, they should probably limit the time spent on it to just a few hours a day.

Sam that's the 2nd time this has been mentioned. I must say, gay or straight...we all shop for the same things. There are no "specific" products if you think about it. lol
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Guys, there are three full time shopping networks on cable here in Las Cruces/El Paso, with a forth one that runs part-time. In addition there are sveral more channels that run infomercials all week-end and late at night. We are a country of consumers. In 1986 nobody thought the US could handle another car company in an already crowded market. Hyundai proved the skeptics wrong and so did Saturn and Suzuki and Kia several years later.
If anything it looks like the TV market isn't large enough to handle the GBLT channels competeing for it. I'm not saying that QBID will become a shopping network, and I wouldn't say it will remain a GBLT channel. I will say anything is possible and I am not surprised at anything that happens or will happen with this company. One thing I will say though, this company sure is interesting, with rarely a dull moment! We'll see what happens tomorrow! [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes it was and what a long dry spell.

i hate the way they ended the eppisode.

lol

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Hey anyone who's interested, don't forget the Sapranos new season starts tonight at 9:00 Eastern. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no because the ticker symbol will change at the same time.

we may be QBIC tomorrow and any sales you had in for QBID would not execute.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
aahaha Hey Rod I bet Tony puts the old man in a retirement home now! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
http://sovo.com/2006/3-10/arts/television/dial.cfm
Ok Mr. Fan, Get Q in the news!!!
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

Leo,

I think there is no way a new shopping network can compete with QVC and the other shopping networks that are already well established and running efficiently—unless they are selling products specifically focused on a niche market such as the GLBT community. Even then, they should probably limit the time spent on it to just a few hours a day.

Sam that's the 2nd time this has been mentioned. I must say, gay or straight...we all shop for the same things. There are no "specific" products if you think about it. lol
QBID’n,

I did think about that for a little bit, but then thought there must be some things (even though I can’t think of many things) that would appeal to the GLBT community that might not be as available through other channels (GLBT literature or media products are some examples). I also thought that even selling “normal things” might work better if the GLBT customers know that they are dealing with a staff at the shopping channel that is GLBT friendly. For example, a cross dressing or transgender person could be more comfortable buying clothes for themselves if they could discuss with the staff how the clothes would fit their own body without fear of being humiliated by someone who doesn’t understand. The sizes could also be adjusted to work better for transgender folks, etc…
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Okay Sam fair enough. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.


Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand [Wink]

jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

So again guys, JenniferCD10. He is a great writer, hands down. Give him his props for that. In fact, he would be a great PR writer, but the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

IN case anyone is interested in the truth, i will give my opinion, and again this is only my opinion.

Burn rate was somewhere between 2-4M a month (god knows it could be more with the way olsen spent money).

THis gets complicated. Burn rate of (we will do the low end to make it easier) 2M per month.

Say they get 100,000 subs. (currently rumors are anywhere between 800 and 15,000 subscribers, and this was before their 2 week hiatus and the now 50% reduction in shows. WHich imho lost them a good portion of their subscribers. but thats not the point.

THey will be getting about half of the $8 per sub. WHich gives them $4 per every sub.

so...
100K subs = 400K dollars
200K subs = 800K dollars
300K subs = 1.2 M dollars
400K subs = 1.6 M dollars
500K subs = 2 M dollars

So for the low end burn rate they would need 500,000 subsribers.

Olsen was quoted in the financial times article that they are looking for 1-2% of potiential subscribers to sign on.

being avaible in...
10M houses = 100K subs
20M houses = 200K subs
30M houses = 300K subs
40M houses = 400K subs
50M houses = 500K subs.

So it would take around an avialbtly of 50M houses to gain the 500K subs they need to be profitable.

So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

JenniferCD10, thanks for your well written posts, but please, back up your lies if you want to have any bit of credibility left. Your credibility is still under suspicion because of .... [Wink]

------Moral of story, Q would have to be in 50M houses, to get the 500K subs to get the 2M dollar burn rate. Go to the high end of the burn rate, and theyd have to be in 100M houses with 1M subs.
Q currently is in 3M houses accoring to QTN and has in the range of 800-15,000 subs.

Accordingy to Jenn "i I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months."
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:

My response concerning an r/s was to pappy--not to you.

I used the word "should" not will--but you know that. Errr, you should know that.

Depending on when a purchase is made and sold--immediately after a split--profits can be made for those who are able to get in and out quickly. Try it some time.

[/QB]

suz im sorry it sounded that rude. And im sorry you feel ashamed or embarrassed you were so off base. Yes your right, i need help, im a messed up young kid thats got nothing for him and comes on here to make me feel better. If it makes you feel better than go right ahead.

Look, im not going to post all my laughing that went on during this last 2 paragraphs of yours, but rest assured, i will be reading it verbaitem in my trading room of 200+ people tommorrow, and i can just picture the laughstock that is going to be occuring. You really do not understand how funny it is.

Now, just quickly, this last post of yours shows your complete ignorance towards RS.

You said something like, if you can get in and out quickly after the split then good money can be made.
--well suz, i got a lot of crap for trying to explain to you how a RS is done, but you obviously have absolutely NO IDEA, and i mean no idea. Look suz, call me what you want, say im a messed up kid, or whatever, but im going to tell you in my honest opinion, that by just reading your comments on RS that i dont think you should be trading in the small cap market.

Thats all im going to say, but this comment from you is almost as worse as the other ones you had.

We will leave it at this. no need to go on.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
I have seen all these comments towards RS and peoples opinions on it. Many many people guarenteeing you a RS. Many saying that it has to be done.

1. The main reason a company would RS at .0001 is because they need to dilute more, so they raise the pps by RS and then dilute it all the way back down

2. If they dont need to dilute anymore, then why raise the pps so that you cannot buyback shares at these levels.

I do say that Q may RS, but many many of you are guraenteeing it, so i just wanted to say for what its worth, i dont personally see one coming right now. I think the odds are more like 15-85 of one happeninng in the next 2 months.

And just to clear things up, a company RS at .0001 with a AS at 350B, is basically the kiss of the death IMO, but i DO NOT see one occuring currently because of other reasons. Good luck guys.
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
MT:

I usually try not to say negative things, but you sure need to learn how to treat others with respect. You are making yourself look like a complete A-hole.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Yup

i can see it coming


quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
aahaha Hey Rod I bet Tony puts the old man in a retirement home now! [Big Grin]


 
Posted by bige2533 on :
 
Cross dressing aside...

Frank owned the company and did whatever he wanted with it. Now Fan owns the company and will do whatever he wants. The shareholders will get nothing and have no say about it.

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
millertime you are makeing one big mistake.

they do not make all thier money from subs.

there are advertisers, and syndications, along with government funds for publice service anouncements.

there is also the renting of their studios, that generates income.

Advertising dollars allone runs a normal network that does not have subscribers.

so lets drop the guessing how many subs we require or have and making factual calculations about stuff that is not factual.


Rod


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.


Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand [Wink]

jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

So again guys, JenniferCD10. He is a great writer, hands down. Give him his props for that. In fact, he would be a great PR writer, but the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

IN case anyone is interested in the truth, i will give my opinion, and again this is only my opinion.

Burn rate was somewhere between 2-4M a month (god knows it could be more with the way olsen spent money).

THis gets complicated. Burn rate of (we will do the low end to make it easier) 2M per month.

Say they get 100,000 subs. (currently rumors are anywhere between 800 and 15,000 subscribers, and this was before their 2 week hiatus and the now 50% reduction in shows. WHich imho lost them a good portion of their subscribers. but thats not the point.

THey will be getting about half of the $8 per sub. WHich gives them $4 per every sub.

so...
100K subs = 400K dollars
200K subs = 800K dollars
300K subs = 1.2 M dollars
400K subs = 1.6 M dollars
500K subs = 2 M dollars

So for the low end burn rate they would need 500,000 subsribers.

Olsen was quoted in the financial times article that they are looking for 1-2% of potiential subscribers to sign on.

being avaible in...
10M houses = 100K subs
20M houses = 200K subs
30M houses = 300K subs
40M houses = 400K subs
50M houses = 500K subs.

So it would take around an avialbtly of 50M houses to gain the 500K subs they need to be profitable.

So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

JenniferCD10, thanks for your well written posts, but please, back up your lies if you want to have any bit of credibility left. Your credibility is still under suspicion because of .... [Wink]

------Moral of story, Q would have to be in 50M houses, to get the 500K subs to get the 2M dollar burn rate. Go to the high end of the burn rate, and theyd have to be in 100M houses with 1M subs.
Q currently is in 3M houses accoring to QTN and has in the range of 800-15,000 subs.

Accordingy to Jenn "i I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months."


 
Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
quote:
--------------------
Faithfully 19,987,600M Long

Triangle Multi Media will be the all-time Cinderella story! [Wink] [/QB]

hey thats all you own 19m? thats $1,900

It would appear to me since you are a long you would have more?
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

MT
As always, you've lived up to my highest expectations: You've misunderstood most of what others have posted, and you've replied with some of the most ignorant, ill-mannered and distorted rhetoric that I've heard all year. Good job. [Roll Eyes]

quote:

... the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

Which makes Jennifer smarter than me, because I've just wasted time and energy drafting a response to you ... which I know you will misunderstand and distort. [Big Grin]

quote:

... IN case anyone is interested in the truth, i will give my opinion, and again this is only my opinion.

So which is it? Are you presenting truth? Or are you presenting opinion? It's pretty obvious you don't know the definition of either word. I suggest bookmarking the Merriam-Webster Online site and using it before you post.

quote:

THis gets complicated. Burn rate of ...

Not really complicated to understand ... but VERY complicated to believe since you admit IT'S ONLY YOUR OPINION. [Roll Eyes]

quote:

So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

Jennifer stated many times that her comments were her "opinion", and an opinion cannot be a lie if the speaker truly believes it. So, Jennifer's opinion might be incorrect, but if she believes what she says, it cannot be a lie.

quote:

Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

Wait a minute ... we're back to the conflict of truth vs opinion again. And what you call "facts" are (in your own words) just opinion, since you used numbers that have not been verified. Better keep that dictionary handy. [Big Grin]

Summary:
I have no problem with you for disagreeing with Jennifer's "opinions" ... nor will I criticize you for posting your "opinions" ... but I have a huge problem with your continual misunderstanding of comments made by others. You have a right to disagree with the comments of others, but at least challenge what they said instead of what you "think" they meant.

I also have a huge problem with your profound ignorance of words (is English really your native tongue?) and your lack of objectivity, fairness and manners.

Consider this quote (sometimes attributed to Abe Lincoln): "It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."

By the way, your continual "assumptions" about Jennifer's persona (another word you can find in the dictionary) is getting very old. We're all different in real life than we present ourselves here. Let it go ... it doesn't matter. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Forget MillerTime's obsession with Jenn and his/her orientation for a minute...could someone please give the kid a dictionary not only to look up the meaning of words...but also their spelling as well? [Smile]
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
It would appear to me since you are a long you would have more?

To any long, that's way more than $1900.
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
1 Bill first 15 minutes.

Nevermind. Ameritrade ticker hasn't worked in awhile, it's till showing friday's volume. Which wasn't right either.
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
However, yahoo says 300 mill in the first 2 minutes.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Volume is 476M

quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
1 Bill first 15 minutes.

Nevermind. Ameritrade ticker hasn't worked in awhile, it's till showing friday's volume. Which wasn't right either.


 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
It would appear to me since you are a long you would have more?

To any long, that's way more than $1900.
This is sad, but very true. [Frown] [Smile]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
NO BID x .0001
0 x 8
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Ameritrade is showing QBID at .01!

Oh, what trickery!

My account balance looks neat, though.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
Forget MillerTime's obsession with Jenn and his/her orientation for a minute...could someone please give the kid a dictionary not only to look up the meaning of words...but also their spelling as well? [Smile]

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Need these cats to come off the ask. At least it was 9 last week...8 now? :-/
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry [Wink]
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry [Wink]

See MT, the proof is in the pudding. The Advocate is showing the cover for the issue coming out on the 14th already. So, is the magazine not telling the truth?
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 


[ March 13, 2006, 11:20: Message edited by: QBID'n ]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry [Wink]

See MT, the proof is in the pudding. The Advocate is showing the cover for the issue coming out on the 14th already. So, is the magazine not telling the truth?
Hey hoss, your sounding hostile towards me. If the cover is already out and im wrong, then so be it. I said the proof was in the pudding, and if the pudding is out and im wrong, then i will admit it. We will see when it comes out, no need to get in a tussle over it.
 
Posted by skrewball on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
Ameritrade is showing QBID at .01!

Oh, what trickery!

My account balance looks neat, though.

Yeah, I really wish they would fix that! Everytime I log in I see green and get all excited!
 
Posted by Anne Burns on :
 
it's about Lloyd Fan now....
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I might seem hostile MT, but that is only because I don't like you. The rightness/wrongness isn't what I take issue with. Just you [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Not sure why but there are lots of .0000 trades going through today. PPS range is .0001-.0001

Vol 1M
0X.0000
10X.0001
 
Posted by hagatha on :
 
Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: dkgross who wrote msg# 229766 Date:3/13/2006 11:39:34 AM
Post #of 229769

it's about Lloyd Fan right now.....



quote:
Originally posted by Anne Burns:
it's about Lloyd Fan now....


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Has anyone here been able to sell at .0001 recently?
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:

Thats all im going to say, but this comment from you is almost as worse as the other ones you had.

We will leave it at this. no need to go on. [/QB]

*************************************************
Promise?

"That's all your going to say?" [Roll Eyes]

"Time" will tell. lol

"We" again?

They still can't they speak for themselves?

So, your boys were laughing at your version of my posts?

I bet that I can guess which parts you chose to omitt.


Hey, I had a laugh too.

It was about a really tough guy

sitting behind a computer with orange juice

suddenly spurting out of his mouth and

nose........just like the Sopranos--really

graphic....don't you think?

lol

I do enjoy this board, but I have a real life.

QBID is just an investment.


Bottom line, MT----I am guilty of indulging you in your preeminent game of grandeur and manipulation.

However, one fix is never enough; there is always that need for more.


Have you ever comtemplated why you must resort to negative behavior to gain attention or is it just to obtain your real goal?

You say some "people try to cut you".

I wonder why you want that?

The first step is the hardest..................

but that takes real guts--no help from the boys. [Wink]
 
Posted by hagatha on :
 
Letter to investors out on website:

http://qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
Letter to investors out on website:

http://qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp

Thanks. Great find. [Smile]
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
......current and future investors!

Did I see the word "transparency"?

The ball is in Fan's court.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
if there is not reason to get into a tussle over it if your wrong, then why are the rules different for whoever you are trying to call out.

you like to play by 2 sets of rules.

your not as bright as you choose to believe.

its funny how you feel your more intelligent then others. Your still in school to learn, many on here have finished school and have many years of knowledge of life and things you have not yet experienced in life. Just maybe you dont know it all. You need to get over your self centered feeling of being more intelligent then others, then and only then will you gain any true wisdom.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry [Wink]

See MT, the proof is in the pudding. The Advocate is showing the cover for the issue coming out on the 14th already. So, is the magazine not telling the truth?
Hey hoss, your sounding hostile towards me. If the cover is already out and im wrong, then so be it. I said the proof was in the pudding, and if the pudding is out and im wrong, then i will admit it. We will see when it comes out, no need to get in a tussle over it.

 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
......current and future investors!

Did I see the word "transparency"?

The ball is in Fan's court.

YEPPER ... [Smile]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
3/3/2005 - RE: Reverse Split

THERE WILL BE NO REVERSE SPLIT as long as Triangle Multimedia (ticker:QBID) is owned and operated by the current management team.


QTN Investor Info Page

Note the date.

Smell a RAT?
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
next, "Q" stamps?


Advertising to go postal

By Frank Barnako, MarketWatch
Last Update: 11:41 AM ET Mar 13, 2006


WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Hey, Mr. Adman!
The United States Postal Service said Monday that it plans to allow businesses to use made-to-order stamps carrying corporate logos or even advertisements.

A notice published in the Federal Register invited companies that produce customized stamps to participate in a test beginning after March 20.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?column=Internet+Daily&dist=nwtid&siteid=mktw
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
Hello all, weighing in on the Jenn thing...I've noticed that no matter what happens, her opinion is always positive and unwavering. Not very balanced given the extremely poor performance of the stock and the number she claims to own.
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
I like this sentence the best out of the letter to investors. "Honesty"..let's hope that pans out [Smile]


They believe, as I do, that this company has a bright future and with hard work, honesty and the loyal support of our investor base , we can continue to be a company we are proud of.

http://www.qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
I cant understand what there proud of???
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
next, "Q" stamps?


Advertising to go postal

By Frank Barnako, MarketWatch
Last Update: 11:41 AM ET Mar 13, 2006


WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Hey, Mr. Adman!
The United States Postal Service said Monday that it plans to allow businesses to use made-to-order stamps carrying corporate logos or even advertisements.

A notice published in the Federal Register invited companies that produce customized stamps to participate in a test beginning after March 20.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?column=Internet+Daily&dist=nwtid&siteid=mktw

Great find, great idea!

Perhaps Q could also sell collector sets on a
Q Shopper--along with other select, premium products.

(Q Shopper is an non-existent shopping program that could add one or two hour live programing added to Q).

......Q, a dream whose time has come.

GLTA

[ March 13, 2006, 14:22: Message edited by: suzainiee ]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Investor Information
3/13/2006 - CEO UPDATE

Letter from the CEO of TMM/QTN



March 13, 2006



To Our Shareholders:





I am pleased to announce that many important changes are beginning to take shape both within our holding company of Triangle Multimedia and our wholly owned subsidiary, QTelevision Network. I will be assigning seats for our board of directors and personally will be interviewing qualified individuals for our executive team. We will be diligent in our search and will not set a specific time frame as to the completion of these important matters because our mission is to seat qualified people within the media, financial and operational fields very carefully. We feel our company is positioned to prosper in the GLBT marketplace and making these changes is the first step.



Our ultimate goal is to become a publicly traded company that holds both the respect of our shareholder base and the financial marketplace in whole. We fully understand the need to supply our current and future investors with the proper resources to make intelligent investment decisions concerning our security. We are working hard to become transparent, thus enabling the investment community to track our growth. These tasks are not without their difficulties, and we intend to keep our shareholder base involved and up to date with any specific changes that will directly affect our security. We feel strongly in our attempt to successfully compete within our market sector and in turn add much needed value to our stock.



Our existing team of employees has endured quite a bit and I must applaud the resilience our staff has shown. They believe, as I do, that this company has a bright future and with hard work, honesty and the loyal support of our investor base, we can continue to be a company we are proud of.



I will be supplying our investor relations team with information shortly and any questions that can publicly be answered will be done through Richard Brown.



We appreciate your continued patience and confidence.



Sincerely,



Lloyd Fan
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
Hello all, weighing in on the Jenn thing...I've noticed that no matter what happens, her opinion is always positive and unwavering. Not very balanced given the extremely poor performance of the stock and the number she claims to own.

4Tune
And what's your point?

Have you also noticed that she is very careful to label her comments as "my opinion" or "I believe" or "I think" or "I hope". This indicates to me that she is trying very hard to express true thoughts and not be a "pumper".

This doesn't mean she is correct to be positive abut Q right now. But when given a choice of seeing the glass half full or half empty, she chooses half full. Nothing wrong with that.

Expressing positive thoughts about a stock you own seems pretty logical to me. Rather than "whining" about her current paper-losses and depressing herself while she waits for something to happen, she chooses to enjoy life by "hoping" for the best outcome. What else do you want her to do?

Hearing a current shareowner express positive thoughts about her investment makes a hell of a lot more sense than hearing "non-shareowners" express negatives. She has a reason for being here ... people who do not own the stock and continue to post about it are the illogical ones.

Just my opinion ... and you are entitled to yours. But I am curious why you find Jenn's comments disturbing. And I am also curious why you felt the need to comment on them.

Would you please help me understand? [Roll Eyes]

[ March 13, 2006, 14:28: Message edited by: Bottomliner ]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i know that it was stated already, I just like to post it here as there tends to be a mysterious disappearance of some things posted on the investor page

here we have a record of it.

Rod
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Richard Brown has not returned calls for weeks and he asked me to call him, Then this, Loyal support of are investor base, company we are proud of. What are they smoking and i want some!
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
i know that it was stated already, I just like to post it here as there tends to be a mysterious disappearance of some things posted on the investor page

here we have a record of it.

Rod

Penny-Trader, master detective and protector of the evidence ... good job, Rod. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Thanks Penny. For some reason I believe this Floyd guy. I never did trust Frank much, and with a history of not telling the truth why should I have.
TIme will tell,

Dave
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Richard Brown has not returned calls for weeks and he asked me to call him, Then this, Loyal support of are investor base, company we are proud of. What are they smoking and i want some!

imak
Just guessing ... but he's probably swamped with work and also with trying to understand what the new boss wants.

We've all been there ... new boss says "make me happy" and never says how and then jumps all over you for not doing it right.

Wait a minute ... that was my new wife. Sorry. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CHIMAN34:
Thanks Penny. For some reason I believe this Floyd guy. I never did trust Frank much, and with a history of not telling the truth why should I have. TIme will tell, Dave

Careful, Dave. It's Lloyd, not Floyd. The name "Floyd" sounds a little too much like "Frank" ... and I break out in a cold sweat. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
Wow, didn't think I could be any clearer or should I have added IMO. Your need to champion her opinion's should be questioned not my stating the obvious. Squelching dissenting opinions is akin to communism, my friend.


quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
Hello all, weighing in on the Jenn thing...I've noticed that no matter what happens, her opinion is always positive and unwavering. Not very balanced given the extremely poor performance of the stock and the number she claims to own.

4Tune
And what's your point?

Have you also noticed that she is very careful to label her comments as "my opinion" or "I believe" or "I think" or "I hope". This indicates to me that she is trying very hard to express true thoughts and not be a "pumper".

This doesn't mean she is correct to be positive abut Q right now. But when given a choice of seeing the glass half full or half empty, she chooses half full. Nothing wrong with that.

Expressing positive thoughts about a stock you own seems pretty logical to me. Rather than "whining" about her current paper-losses and depressing herself while she waits for something to happen, she chooses to enjoy life by "hoping" for the best outcome. What else do you want her to do?

Hearing a current shareowner express positive thoughts about her investment makes a hell of a lot more sense than hearing "non-shareowners" express negatives. She has a reason for being here ... people who do not own the stock and continue to post about it are the illogical ones.

Just my opinion ... and you are entitled to yours. But I am curious why you find Jenn's comments disturbing. And I am also curious why you felt the need to comment on them.

Would you please help me understand? [Roll Eyes]


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
LOL. I hear you on that BL, BUT i have his personal phone # and nothing? And i was told to call him? just gonna wait it out.
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
4TUne, aren't you trying to squelch Jenn's opinion as well? You hypocrite. if you're entitled to dog her opinion, someone is allowed to dog yours as well.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
[QB] Your need to champion her opinion's should be questioned not my stating the obvious. Squelching dissenting opinions is akin to communism, my friend.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
The only reason I'm still in is that I'm down over 90% and it's not possible to sell.

I can't understand why any optimism remains here...
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
I characterized her opinions, I don't believe in squelching them.

quote:
Originally posted by bottomfishing:
4TUne, aren't you trying to squelch Jenn's opinion as well? You hypocrite. if you're entitled to dog her opinion, someone is allowed to dog yours as well.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
[QB] Your need to champion her opinion's should be questioned not my stating the obvious. Squelching dissenting opinions is akin to communism, my friend.


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
Wow, didn't think I could be any clearer or should I have added IMO. Your need to champion her opinion's should be questioned not my stating the obvious. Squelching dissenting opinions is akin to communism, my friend.

4Tune
You obviously missed my points ... and you still haven't answered my questions.

I "championed" her right to express her opinions ... not her opinions per se. And you didn't state the "obvious" about anything.

You "suggested" (IMO) that she was presenting false data, and I said she was just expressing her positive attitudes and opinions. And that's about as clear as possible.

And don't whine about being "squelched" ... that's the oldest and weakest defense of people caught being "bad". Most 3-year-olds use it more effectively: "Mommy, why do you alway pick on me?"

Now, if you want to discuss our differences maturely, answer my questions:

1) Why did Jenn's comments disturb you?
2) Why did you feel the need to comment?

And ... just curious ... are you a shareholder? Shareholders who depress themselves by thinking negatively may not be very bright, but at least they are more logical than "non-shareholders" who express negatives about a stock they don't own.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
because it cant get much worse. the upward potential is much higher then the downward potential.

we rode it to where we are, how can you not help but feel that we may get a trend reversal.

and to sell out at this level and miss the potential if it developes would be more depressing than to sit here and loose the last bit of our money.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
The only reason I'm still in is that I'm down over 90% and it's not possible to sell.

I can't understand why any optimism remains here...


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
PT, You hit the nail on the head.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
I characterized her opinions, I don't believe in squelching them.

"Characterized" her opinions? Might want to check a dictionary on that one. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I agree with you, but I'm not holding my breath for that trend reversal. My gut feeling is r/s and plummet.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
because it cant get much worse. the upward potential is much higher then the downward potential.

we rode it to where we are, how can you not help but feel that we may get a trend reversal.

and to sell out at this level and miss the potential if it developes would be more depressing than to sit here and loose the last bit of our money.

Rod


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
because it cant get much worse. the upward potential is much higher then the downward potential.

we rode it to where we are, how can you not help but feel that we may get a trend reversal.

and to sell out at this level and miss the potential if it developes would be more depressing than to sit here and loose the last bit of our money. Rod

Rod
It's called playing "pot odds" ... slim chance but one hell of a reward if we get "lucky".

But I hope we get more than luck from Mr. Fan. I'm hoping he's a card shark and will deal us a few extra aces. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
1) I clearly characterized her opinions.
2) I wasn't disturbed by them - I saw a pattern of positivity that did not reflect the downward spiral of the pps and the company.
3) I commented because I think it's deceptive for new comers.
4) I sold most of my holding in December (tax write-off). I'm still holding 50K.

Was I expressing a negative about the stock? I thought I was characterizing a poster's opinions.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
from the information presented, we might all conclude that indeed, mr. fan just woke up one day and decided to execute a takeover.


mr. fan knows what he assumed control of.


the folks that have funded this public entity, the shareholders, are entitled to know that information.


"our holding company of Triangle Multimedia"...holding LBS, NTI--what's their status?


"We are working hard to become transparent"...not hard. release the information that mr. fan knows. that he based his opinion on to take over tmm/qtn.


mr. fan most assuredly knows.


share structure would be a good place to start...


oh, right....more time.......
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
I thought you were interested in a mature discussion or should I invoke some sort of question of your intelligence in rebuttal?

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
I characterized her opinions, I don't believe in squelching them.

"Characterized" her opinions? Might want to check a dictionary on that one. [Roll Eyes]

 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
characterize
One entry found for characterize.


Main Entry: char·ac·ter·ize
Pronunciation: 'kar-ik-t&-"rIz
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -ized; -iz·ing
1 : to describe the character or quality of <characterizes him as ambitious>
2 : to be a characteristic of : DISTINGUISH <an era characterized by greed>
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
As of today: No new amendments.

WA SOS (360) 753-7115 (option 5)

TMM UBI 601 047 757
5/08/51 Date of Incorporation
8/24/04 amendment a/s + to 50b
7/25/05 license renewed (due 5/31/05)
11/07/05 amendment a/s + to 60b
12/19/05 amendment a/s + to 100b
02/07/06 amendment a/s + to 350b

Frank Olsen, pres/chairman of board
Rene Schenk, sec/tres


QTN UBI 602 391 767 reinstated 9/8/05

qtn corp status:
5/03/04 --Date of Incorporation a/s 75k
6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active
6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive
9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved
9/08/05 --reinstated
9/8/05 to present --active

Frank Olsen, pres/chairman of board
joseph morales, vice pres
marian sherman, director
rene schenk, sec/director
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
Okay has anyone been able to find out any information about Mr. Fan, or has Jen replied to my (i thought) fair questions in her thoughts about Mr. Fan? I read the doc from the investors page, and it sounds nice, however it still from the same company that has neglected us in the past.

Im not putting any faith into Mr. Fan until i see what credentials he has to successfully run a television broadcasting company. I hate to sound like Mr. Pesimistic here, BUT, until my simple questions have been answered im still going to cast doubt on the abilities and intentions of this new management administration. I still say something just dosent seem right, thats my gut feelings and ive learned to trust it.

Again please do not take this for bashing i merely wish to have simple questions answered as a peer investor.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
1) I clearly characterized her opinions.
2) I wasn't disturbed by them - I saw a pattern of positivity that did not reflect the downward spiral of the pps and the company.
3) I commented because I think it's deceptive for new comers.
4) I sold most of my holding in December (tax write-off). I'm still holding 50K.

Was I expressing a negative about the stock? I thought I was characterizing a poster's opinions.

4Tune
Thank you for the reply.

1) I still think you've misused the word "characterized" but words mean different things to different people.
2) If her comments didn't "disturb" you, what prompted you to comment on them? I didn't see anything false or misleading in what she said. I don't agree with some of her opinions, but I'm not always right either.
3) I'm sorry for anyone "dumb" enough to be influenced by message board comments, but I don't share your concern for them. And, as I've said, I didn't see anything false or misleading in what Jenn said. Her comments were about as harmless as saying "It's a beautiful day" during a thunderstorm. Some people like rain, some don't.
4) Shareholder or not, you have a right to post about QBID. I apologize for even asking. I was just curious, since many posters emphatically state they do not and will not own shares but spend a lot of time telling shareholders how dumb we are. I think I understand why you hang around because I tend to do the same thing. Once I sell a stock, I like to see if I was right about my decision. In poker, this is called "confirming your fold." I prefer to call it "doing a postmortem". The trouble with postmortems, they're usually not very pleasant.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. GL with whatever stock you're chasing. I've "kinda stuck" with Q for now ... so I'll be here every day. [Smile]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
Okay has anyone been able to find out any information about Mr. Fan, or has Jen replied to my (i thought) fair questions in her thoughts about Mr. Fan? ... I hate to sound like Mr. Pesimistic here, BUT, until my simple questions have been answered im still going to cast doubt on the abilities and intentions of this new management administration. I still say something just dosent seem right, thats my gut feelings and ive learned to trust it. Again please do not take this for bashing i merely wish to have simple questions answered as a peer investor.

MM
I'm not trying to speak for Jenn ... but I know she seems to be away from home a lot lately. I've sent her messages recently and waited several days for a reply. But she always replies eventually.

And I don't consider you "Mr. Pessimistic" ... you have the same concerns and questions most of us have. The only reason I don't ask questions is because I don't believe anyone can give me a factual answer.

As far as your "gut feelings" ... I really hope it's just gas. Try some Beano and let me know if it helps. (Just joking witcha ... [Big Grin] )
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
As of today: No new amendments.

WA SOS (360) 753-7115 (option 5)

TMM UBI 601 047 757
5/08/51 Date of Incorporation
8/24/04 amendment a/s + to 50b
7/25/05 license renewed (due 5/31/05)
11/07/05 amendment a/s + to 60b
12/19/05 amendment a/s + to 100b
02/07/06 amendment a/s + to 350b

Frank Olsen, pres/chairman of board
Rene Schenk, sec/tres


QTN UBI 602 391 767 reinstated 9/8/05

qtn corp status:
5/03/04 --Date of Incorporation a/s 75k
6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active
6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive
9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved
9/08/05 --reinstated
9/8/05 to present --active

Frank Olsen, pres/chairman of board
joseph morales, vice pres
marian sherman, director
rene schenk, sec/director

thanks for checking Qbid'n

when are you going to the studio again?? introduce yourself to Fan [Smile]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
As of today: No new amendments.

thanks for a clear and concise, factual update QBID'n....

...not used to them....
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
Okay has anyone been able to find out any information about Mr. Fan, or has Jen replied to my (i thought) fair questions in her thoughts about Mr. Fan? ... I hate to sound like Mr. Pesimistic here, BUT, until my simple questions have been answered im still going to cast doubt on the abilities and intentions of this new management administration. I still say something just dosent seem right, thats my gut feelings and ive learned to trust it. Again please do not take this for bashing i merely wish to have simple questions answered as a peer investor.

MM
I'm not trying to speak for Jenn ... but I know she seems to be away from home a lot lately. I've sent her messages recently and waited several days for a reply. But she always replies eventually.

And I don't consider you "Mr. Pessimistic" ... you have the same concerns and questions most of us have. The only reason I don't ask questions is because I don't believe anyone can give me a factual answer.

As far as your "gut feelings" ... I really hope it's just gas. Try some Beano and let me know if it helps. (Just joking witcha ... [Big Grin] )

i have no witty response, i did 6 + hours of calculus last night and didnt get to bed until after 1am. I did probably 3 hours of calculus today and now im stuck at work until 12am. HOWEVER i can strain a witful retort of some type ... wait... i think its comeing!!! wait! wait..!!!
nope.......... it was gas......

Have a good evening.
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
1) No, I didn't.
2) Answered - see #3
3) I'm against misleading others and I think by labeling dumb those that are influenced by message board comments, you've just insulted a great many well meaning individuals.
4) Apology accepted. I shouldn't have to present "credentials" to participate.

Now I can agree to disagree. GL to you as well.

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
1) I clearly characterized her opinions.
2) I wasn't disturbed by them - I saw a pattern of positivity that did not reflect the downward spiral of the pps and the company.
3) I commented because I think it's deceptive for new comers.
4) I sold most of my holding in December (tax write-off). I'm still holding 50K.

Was I expressing a negative about the stock? I thought I was characterizing a poster's opinions.

4Tune
Thank you for the reply.

1) I still think you've misused the word "characterized" but words mean different things to different people.
2) If her comments didn't "disturb" you, what prompted you to comment on them? I didn't see anything false or misleading in what she said. I don't agree with some of her opinions, but I'm not always right either.
3) I'm sorry for anyone "dumb" enough to be influenced by message board comments, but I don't share your concern for them. And, as I've said, I didn't see anything false or misleading in what Jenn said. Her comments were about as harmless as saying "It's a beautiful day" during a thunderstorm. Some people like rain, some don't.
4) Shareholder or not, you have a right to post about QBID. I apologize for even asking. I was just curious, since many posters emphatically state they do not and will not own shares but spend a lot of time telling shareholders how dumb we are. I think I understand why you hang around because I tend to do the same thing. Once I sell a stock, I like to see if I was right about my decision. In poker, this is called "confirming your fold." I prefer to call it "doing a postmortem". The trouble with postmortems, they're usually not very pleasant.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. GL with whatever stock you're chasing. I've "kinda stuck" with Q for now ... so I'll be here every day. [Smile]


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
i have no witty response, i did 6 + hours of calculus last night and didnt get to bed until after 1am. I did probably 3 hours of calculus today and now im stuck at work until 12am. HOWEVER i can strain a witful retort of some type ... wait ... i think its comeing!!! wait! wait..!!! nope.......... it was gas......

Have a good evening.

Good one ... [Big Grin]

Sometimes "gas" is a good thing ... (I think I heard Martha Stewart say that once). [Eek!]
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Q Television Network, Inc. CEO Lloyd Fan Appoints Carol Hinnant to President and Consolidates QTN Headquarters
PR Newswire - March 13, 2006 15:59

Moves Mark First Steps in Restructuring and Growth of Groundbreaking GLBT Network

BURBANK, Calif., March 13, 2006 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- BURBANK, Calif., March 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Standing firm by his pledge to strengthen and maximize the network's business model, Lloyd Fan has announced his first executive appointment since becoming Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc and its subsidiary, Q Television Network (QTN) (OTC: QBID). He has upped Carol Hinnant -- formerly QTN Vice President, Sales & Marketing -- to the post of President, a move that will help position the network for long-term viability while nurturing and building on its business and community relationships.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Symbol Alert: QBID

Headline: Q Television Network, Inc. CEO Lloyd Fan Appoints Carol Hinnant to President and Consolidates QTN Headquarters
By PR Newswire 3/13/2006 3:59:15 PM


http://www.marketwatch.com/n.asp?g=4274B988E0494692A8F6C70478464041&d=nbs

Q Television Network, Inc. CEO Lloyd Fan Appoints Carol Hinnant to President and Consolidates QTN Headquarters
Moves Mark First Steps in Restructuring and Growth of Groundbreaking GLBT Network

BURBANK, Calif., March 13, 2006 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- BURBANK, Calif., March 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Standing firm by his pledge to strengthen and maximize the network's business model, Lloyd Fan has announced his first executive appointment since becoming Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc and its subsidiary, Q Television Network (QTN) (QBID : triangle multi-media ltd inc com
News , chart, profile, more
Last: 0.00+0.00-116.67%

. He has upped Carol Hinnant -- formerly QTN Vice President, Sales & Marketing -- to the post of President, a move that will help position the network for long-term viability while nurturing and building on its business and community relationships.
Fan has also announced the closing of Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc.'s former Palm Springs headquarters, which had been maintained as a home base of operations for the network's previous executive staff. Triangle's operations have been consolidated, with all business now generated from QTN's Burbank studio location.
These moves -- which come just six days after Triangle announced the resignation of its board of directors -- mark Fan's first steps in his plans to restructure and revitalize Triangle's subsidiary, QTN, the groundbreaking GLBT network. Since taking over as CEO, he has listened to both members of the GLBT community and the shareholder base, working diligently to analyze both the current organization and begin making necessary changes.
"This is a vital, promising network that has unfortunately experienced some growing pains. In her new role, Carol will be a tremendous benefit to QTN, as she has the background and relationships to help lead us in the right direction," said Fan. "However, the restructuring of QTN is a major undertaking, and we have a long way to go. I want to express my gratitude to all employees, vendors and community members for their support while we work through this transitional period."
Added Hinnant: "I accepted this role knowing we had a lot of work ahead of us. QTN not only has a very loyal audience of viewers but also has many respected partners and affiliates deserving of answers to their questions. It is our goal to deliver transparency to this company and fulfill some of the promises made by former management."
As QTN's Vice President of Sales and Marketing, Hinnant played an integral role in building the network's presence in the cable television marketplace. Hinnant is a 15-year veteran of the cable programming industry, having held senior management positions with HBO, Inc. and Jones Media Network, Inc. (JMN) and Here!, Hinnant began her career as a paralegal at the Houston, Texas based law firm, Hutchison & Grundy and quickly excelled into the management ranks of a public company when joining General Homes Corporation, Inc. as Director of the Legal Department.
About Q Television Network
Q Television Network is a 100% wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media. This 24/7 premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.
The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox Communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(r) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.

[ March 13, 2006, 16:15: Message edited by: Penny-Trader ]
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
now that's a step in the right direction
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by manfromjax:
Q Television Network, Inc. CEO Lloyd Fan Appoints Carol Hinnant to President and Consolidates QTN Headquarters
PR Newswire - March 13, 2006 15:59

Moves Mark First Steps in Restructuring and Growth of Groundbreaking GLBT Network

BURBANK, Calif., March 13, 2006 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- BURBANK, Calif., March 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Standing firm by his pledge to strengthen and maximize the network's business model, Lloyd Fan has announced his first executive appointment since becoming Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc and its subsidiary, Q Television Network (QTN) (OTC: QBID). He has upped Carol Hinnant -- formerly QTN Vice President, Sales & Marketing -- to the post of President, a move that will help position the network for long-term viability while nurturing and building on its business and community relationships.

Wow ... two goodies in one day. And when you've lived in a vacuum as long as we have, it doesn't take much to make me smile. [Cool]
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
from the PR..

Fan has also announced the closing of Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc.'s former Palm Springs headquarters, which had been maintained as a home base of operations for the network's previous executive staff. Triangle's operations have been consolidated, with all business now generated from QTN's Burbank studio location.

Consolidation, Consolidation
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I know we don't know anything about Mr Fan, but he did just promote one of the few people that we do know has their act together!!!

That has to be a good sign LOL
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Cost reduction, what a novel concept.
Now if he will just share what the actual costs/revenues etc. are I will actually get excited about it.... maybe! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
you have to admit, after promoting Hinnart and closing the burbank office, it seems that Fan is going to move fast AND update us on what qbid is doing.

one cause for concern: he sort of implied in the letter to the shareholders that he was going to do an RS

"we intend to keep our shareholder base involved and up to date with any specific changes that will directly affect our security. We feel strongly in our attempt to successfully compete within our market sector and in turn add much needed value to our stock."

that sounds an awful lot like an RS is in the works
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
sorry, i meant palm springs not burbank studio.
 
Posted by ptrs30 on :
 
The last PR states clearly: "Q Television Network is a 100% wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media."

This should clear things up a little.

And the fact that Carol has accepted the job of President, shows hope, beleif and potential in QBID.

GLTA
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
ptrs, I was thinking the same thing. I'm glad Fan made that part of the standard 'About Q' PR blurb.
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
sent Carol Hinnant a congratulatory email.

did not pressure her on info
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Haha, I like how it came out at 3:59 today. Wonder why.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i would prefer that Mr Fan take the time to verify the information is accurate before he threw it out to us.

yes he bought in based on info that Frank provided to him, but i would rather have it verified as I would not put it past Frank to lie and have false info for an investor, as he did to us investors.

i would prefer that Fan be completely honest with us and i would want the info that is released to the public to be completely accurate.

if he released the info that he was shown and it turned out to be false later, everyone would be all over Fan for releasing false info. He doesn't want that happening when he is trying to gain our trust and respect, We dont want that, and the people that he does business do not want that.

I know it sucks not knowing what is in store for us, but knowing false info is not going to do anything but cause false hopes.

I will wait for the real deal to be released and then we can all access our company in a true light, no shadows of doubt, or rose colored glasses.

Wait? the answer is yes. but today's pr gives me a bit more hope. Frank had the right idea in hiring Carol Hinnant, but did not have the wisdom to give here the control she needed to do her job. Fan has seen her potential as well and now has put her in a position to do her magic.

so far everything appears to be good.

I liked this line of his pr

Since taking over as CEO, he has listened to both members of the GLBT community and the shareholder base, working diligently to analyze both the current organization and begin making necessary changes.

which tells me that he has received the letters we have sent, and it taking us into consideration. This in itself may lessen the threats of the a R/S but not necessarily eliminating it. this is in my opinion of course.

we are another step out of the grave so to speak and time will tell.

here's to hoping that Mr Fan is the next best thing to sliced bread.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
from the information presented, we might all conclude that indeed, mr. fan just woke up one day and decided to execute a takeover.


mr. fan knows what he assumed control of.


the folks that have funded this public entity, the shareholders, are entitled to know that information.


"our holding company of Triangle Multimedia"...holding LBS, NTI--what's their status?


"We are working hard to become transparent"...not hard. release the information that mr. fan knows. that he based his opinion on to take over tmm/qtn.


mr. fan most assuredly knows.


share structure would be a good place to start...


oh, right....more time.......


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Interesting news... lets see what else Lloyd store for us.
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
Haha, I like how it came out at 3:59 today. Wonder why.

Why at 3:59. Well most well run companies release PR either at premarket OR after-hours, NOT during the day. So, in a way this is a good sign that management is going to follow NORMAL business practices, unlike Frank who would release a PR ANYTIME he felt like it.

May be I will try to buy some more shares tomorrow at .0001, but hopefully it is to late to do that anymore.
 
Posted by ptrs30 on :
 
looks like Planet out is back in business with Q also. Carol hard at work?

Today on the homepage I see them promoting QTN news with Steve Kmetko. Had not seen it for a while.

What's next??
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I'll bet it isn't too late to buy all the shares you desire at .0001.

quote:
Originally posted by manfromjax:

May be I will try to buy some more shares tomorrow at .0001, but hopefully it is to late to do that anymore.


 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
whos mark Fan?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
???

quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
whos mark Fan?


 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
"These moves -- which come just six days after Triangle announced the resignation of its board of directors -- mark Fan's first steps in his plans to restructure and revitalize Triangle's subsidiary, QTN, the groundbreaking GLBT network"

I ask again whos "MARK FAN" 3rd line in the middle. This is off your post PT
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
your reading it wrong. they are saying that this marks mr fans first steps

Rod
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
your reading it wrong. they are saying that this marks mr fans first steps

Rod

wouldent be the first time, once again proving im an IT major not an engersh one [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
read that whole statement agian and put commas in where the -- are

it makes more sense that way


rod
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
I have had several conversation with Carol Hinnant as well as exchanged e-mails and met her on a couple of occasions. Carol has been one of the most dedicated people at "Q". She has always had a great vision of "Q" being a success.

She was not always in agreement with Frank and this may have cause some heartburn with the carriers. Carol is very well respected in the cable industry and this move will no doubt help with creditability issues.

Carol has always been swift to answer e-mails and give honest answers. She was not privy to all the financial dealings of Frank et al. But she was always a great voice for the shareholders.

So I guess we will have to wait and see how she does as President. I feel that Mr. Fan made an excellent choice with the appointment of Carol Hinnant. IMO she will do very well for the company and hopefully the shareholders. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Optimus Prime on :
 
Anybody notice that there was no forward looking statements section in the PR?
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Penny-Trader
Member


Member Rated:
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millertime you are makeing one big mistake.

they do not make all thier money from subs. (What money?)

there are advertisers, and syndications, along with government funds for publice service anouncements. (ther are?) prove it.

there is also the renting of their studios, that generates income. ( How does penny trader know this?) (the income) and (their studios).. that they dont own.


so lets drop the guessing how many subs we require or have and making factual calculations about stuff that is not factual. (ya lets)
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
the moves are marking mr fans griping of the q tit.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
making factual calculations about stuff that is not factual. penny trader that is all you do.
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
Anybody notice that there was no forward looking statements section in the PR?

Yes, I did. It just stopped.

It was not a PR like the ones Richard writes.


Perhaps it was just what Fan said that it was--a general letter to investors to acknowledge the situation and to express that he wants to turn things around.

And, that we should not expect it to happen overnight.

IMO, making Carol H. president should provide some immediate confidence in his decision making skills.

[ March 13, 2006, 19:00: Message edited by: suzainiee ]
 
Posted by BJ on :
 
can anybody see what the final volume was today, eturd shows neg 2 billion....... anyone else have the same thing. Why would it show neg???? is that common......
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
they do not make all thier money from subs. (What money?) yes they do not give the subs away fo free and the adevertising. so yes Money. that is what its about.

there are advertisers, and syndications, along with government funds for publice service anouncements. (ther are?) prove it. whats to prove. they have advertisements on thier station. public service announcements are paid for with government funds prove they are not.

there is also the renting of their studios, that generates income. ( How does penny trader know this?) (the income) and (their studios).. that they dont own. i know this from the prs that wha have recieved regarding the studio. they stated they have an income off of them. Prove that they do not.


so lets drop the guessing how many subs we require or have and making factual calculations about stuff that is not factual. (ya lets)
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
so what was your username that you got banned with before this new one?

Your a joke. I never make statements as fact, unless they are backed with links to prove them.

every message i post states at the bottom that these are my oppinions and not to buy or sell based on that.

what is your motive ?

grow up there is not fight here with me. im done taking your post serious.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by kilhs:
making factual calculations about stuff that is not factual. penny trader that is all you do.


 
Posted by Optimus Prime on :
 
PT, don't you recognize shlik? (kilhs backwards) [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ya your right but i thought i would see how he responded to it.

lol

Rod
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
PT, don't you recognize shlik? (kilhs backwards) :)

That's as clever as 2FAST4U = U4TSAF2

I may be back as OEL, lol (j/k)
 
Posted by sneither on :
 
For those who have not seen this....

http://www.l-word.com/news/qtv_1.php

Do you host an L Word viewing party or informal weekly gathering?
If so, we want to hear from you!

THE L WORLD is a one-hour documentary special about the cultural response to The L Word, Showtime's groundbreaking lesbian drama series, now in it's third season. THE L WORLD documentary will be aired on Q Television network in autumn 2006. We're looking for a diverse group of The L Word watchers - gay, lesbian, straight, transgender and all ethnicities, ages, religions, beliefs and attitudes - to share your viewing experience with other L Word fans!

If you are currently a member or host of a viewing group and are willing to be filmed in the immediate months to come (remember, season three wraps up in March), please contact me!

Interested? Email Lworddoc*yahoo.com with a little information about yourself: where you live, where you watch, who comes over, and what you do to get in the L mood?

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Larin Sullivan

Director / Producer, THE L WORLD

Lworddoc*yahoo.com
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i love the L word.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
my new alias will be redart-ynnep

that will mess everyone up lol
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
good luck qbidians and qbidiots as long as no r/split im as happy as can be. im long and strong still trying to keep the faith and hope that mr.fan and carol can turn this mess around.

i really think we still have a chance but it is gonna be a long time i feel before we see any pps movement. reason being simply 350 a/s. now if somehow mr. fantastic can reduce this then maybe we will rocketeer up one day into the grand pennyland. how sweet that would be.

today is a definite strawberry cheesecake day for me. thanx jen and all who do dd including the ones that just share opinions like myself. also i want to say that during these frustrating times of waiting and holding i respect and understand why many would remain negative and pissed off at this situation. its not over yet remember that. the reverse split to me would mean the kiss of death but just the fact that frank is not running the show is very positive to me.

ok sorry for the long ungrammatical post is that even a word hehee.

oh yeah and sorry for not spacing it out.

and sorry for being a qbidiot who still from time to time suffers from op syndrom.

40 million long and strong.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Noah if you were in CA I would try to reassign one of those license plates to you. Either "Qbidian" or "Qbidiot" I am going to keep Dr.Qbid [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ptrs30:
looks like Planet out is back in business with Q also. Carol hard at work?

Today on the homepage I see them promoting QTN news with Steve Kmetko. Had not seen it for a while.

What's next??

Thanks for the information; we are starting to see some good signs now.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
... 3) I'm against misleading others and I think by labeling dumb those that are influenced by message board comments, you've just insulted a great many well meaning individuals.

4Tune
I don't believe for a second that you are protecting others from "misleading" commemts posted on a message board. But if that's what you want us to believe ... so be it.

And my previous answer stands just as firmly:
I'm sorry for anyone "dumb" enough to be influenced by message board comments, but I don't share your concern for them. Investing is an adult activity, not a child's game. And the rules are simple ... make your own decisions based on your own DD. If I lose money, I blame myself. If I make money, I applaud myself.

And that's the BOTTOMLINE. [Cool]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Wow guys...what an interesting turn of events.

News of a new president, goals, promises, commitments, prospering and of course the most illusive of all...."transparency". Well at this point, having experiencing a tailspin down to .0001 from a whirlwind of ruin, I personally feel we should expect nothing less of TMM than official documented proof of transparency. Because then, and only then, can it justify Fan’s expectation of shareholder excitement.

Yeah this is news, but its not really news. Oh don’t get me wrong...I still have faith. Lets just be honest here, PR’s don’t mean sh*t anymore, seriously. And please don’t reply to this post otherwise because, and though I may be wrong, I would like to think we’re all on the same page when it comes to our investments real value.

I’ll wait. And I’ll keep waiting. But damn it we need transparency!...not news of a new president, goals, promises or f*cken commitments....we just need transparency.

Now come on Fan, show me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Anyone see this yet? From the investor page!!


3/13/2006 - CEO UPDATE

Letter from the CEO of TMM/QTN



March 13, 2006



To Our Shareholders:





I am pleased to announce that many important changes are beginning to take shape both within our holding company of Triangle Multimedia and our wholly owned subsidiary, QTelevision Network. I will be assigning seats for our board of directors and personally will be interviewing qualified individuals for our executive team. We will be diligent in our search and will not set a specific time frame as to the completion of these important matters because our mission is to seat qualified people within the media, financial and operational fields very carefully. We feel our company is positioned to prosper in the GLBT marketplace and making these changes is the first step.



Our ultimate goal is to become a publicly traded company that holds both the respect of our shareholder base and the financial marketplace in whole. We fully understand the need to supply our current and future investors with the proper resources to make intelligent investment decisions concerning our security. We are working hard to become transparent, thus enabling the investment community to track our growth. These tasks are not without their difficulties, and we intend to keep our shareholder base involved and up to date with any specific changes that will directly affect our security. We feel strongly in our attempt to successfully compete within our market sector and in turn add much needed value to our stock.



Our existing team of employees has endured quite a bit and I must applaud the resilience our staff has shown. They believe, as I do, that this company has a bright future and with hard work, honesty and the loyal support of our investor base, we can continue to be a company we are proud of.



I will be supplying our investor relations team with information shortly and any questions that can publicly be answered will be done through Richard Brown.



We appreciate your continued patience and confidence.



Sincerely,



Lloyd Fan
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0611,musto,72518,15.html


Moving on to tinier telecasts —time's a wastin'—I've written about how Q Television Network recently screwed over scads of workers and owes a ****load of gay money all around. Well, as one of the people they ****ed without a condom-—yes, I'm now a sharecropper—I just got a communiqué from the "gay premium channel" that was evasive yet rather hopeful. It said, "We are in receipt of your invoices. Unfortunately do [sic] to the fact that the QTN is in a reorganization mode until further notice, no payables are being released across the board. Please check back within a few weeks." I'll due that, girlfriend. In the meantime, that reorganization involves founder FRANK OLSEN and the old board of directors biting the gay dust as a brave person named LLOYD FAN (who was the interim president) takes over this mess by the balls. Will he handle past debts in a timely and sensitive matter? He'd better! If not, the **** will surely hit the Fan.
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
my new alias will be redart-ynnep

that will mess everyone up lol

what about Yenom Yloponom ... looks arabic [Smile]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
just brought this forward from the weekend.


Penny-Trader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 11, 2006 21:03
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we will hear from him in time. ..........

..... i would suspect that we will hear something from Fan this coming week, but it will not be the informative pr that everyone is hoping for.

it will be more of a Hi my name in Lloyd, i have assembled a task force to attack these concerns, our plan is to make this the biggest and the best, we will inform you as thing progress. we are here working for you. thanks for your patience and support

or something to that effect.

we will not see immediate turn around on this. so anyone looking for that should stop expecting that as you will be greatly disappointed.

this is not going to happen over night.
...................................................................

Rod
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Wow guys...what an interesting turn of events. News of a new president, goals, promises, commitments, prospering and of course the most illusive of all...."transparency". Well at this point, having experiencing a tailspin down to .0001 from a whirlwind of ruin, I personally feel we should expect nothing less of TMM than official documented proof of transparency. Because then, and only then, can it justify Fan’s expectation of shareholder excitement. Yeah this is news, but its not really news. Oh don’t get me wrong...I still have faith. Lets just be honest here, PR’s don’t mean sh*t anymore, seriously. And please don’t reply to this post otherwise because, and though I may be wrong, I would like to think we’re all on the same page when it comes to our investments real value. I’ll wait. And I’ll keep waiting. But damn it we need transparency!...not news of a new president, goals, promises or f*cken commitments....we just need transparency. Now come on Fan, show me. [Big Grin]

QBID'n
Well said ... I agree totally.

Most people know I choose to see the glass half full instead of half empty, but I also demand facts before I react. I "try" to respect all opinions if they are clearly labeled as such, and I usually challenge any statement not backed up with proof. With that said, my current OPINION is:

We were pretty much at rock-bottom a few days ago when Frank was still in charge. Now we have new top management, hopefully new financing, and we've received encouraging news from the company that "suggests" improvement.

Like QBID'n, I will reserve judgement until I see real improvement in my account value. But I do smile a bit more lately ... and that's a good feeling.

GL to us all. I hope we don't need a lot of luck, but I'm a poker player and never turn down any offers from Lady Luck. [Cool]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
The glass was half full until Frank drilled a hole in the bottom.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
The glass was half full until Frank drilled a hole in the bottom.

GB
Good point ... [Smile]

But maybe Mr. Fan will plug that hole. As I said before, I need facts before I react ... which means I will continue holding my shares while I wait for facts. Shareholders who have chosen not to wait may end up being right ... but I'm willing to take the risk, considering the potential rewards.

Come on, Lady Luck ... baby needs a new pair of shoes. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
this looks more like Fan's expertise..> http://www.loveandpride.com/home/CommunityArticles.aspx
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
could this be Verizon/Q's library n live shows/Fan's product distribution expertise new platform...? > http://www.besttv.co.il/iptv6.html
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
http://www.besttv.co.il/services.html
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Rod , I think this officially certifies you as a bonafide genius and credible psychic.
Wouldn't you agree? [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
just brought this forward from the weekend.


Penny-Trader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 11, 2006 21:03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
we will hear from him in time. ..........

..... i would suspect that we will hear something from Fan this coming week, but it will not be the informative pr that everyone is hoping for.

it will be more of a Hi my name in Lloyd, i have assembled a task force to attack these concerns, our plan is to make this the biggest and the best, we will inform you as thing progress. we are here working for you. thanks for your patience and support

or something to that effect.

we will not see immediate turn around on this. so anyone looking for that should stop expecting that as you will be greatly disappointed.

this is not going to happen over night.
...................................................................

Rod


 
Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Bottomliner. I was close, [Smile] .
Like I said, for some reason I don't think Lloyd will be as quiet as Franko was. This will take time, and I would hate for a rs, but it may happen. Not sure how they're gonna get out of this mess.
Looks like another long year, but at least it should be more interesting from here on out than it was last year.
Dave
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i wouldnt go that far but at least he is actting the way i would expect a true busness man to act in this situation.

appointing Carol as quickly as he did was a surprise. but as he stated he is going to take the time to appoint the right people to the board, and that is the sign of a smart business man.

he basically told us in the pr that he is listening to us.

that means a lot, but as was said many times before, actions speak louder then words. i like his first actions, and hope that he continues in the right direction

Rod
 
Posted by 4Tune4Me on :
 
I would not be so arrogant as to call myself a "protector".

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
... 3) I'm against misleading others and I think by labeling dumb those that are influenced by message board comments, you've just insulted a great many well meaning individuals.

4Tune
I don't believe for a second that you are protecting others from "misleading" commemts posted on a message board. But if that's what you want us to believe ... so be it.

And my previous answer stands just as firmly:
I'm sorry for anyone "dumb" enough to be influenced by message board comments, but I don't share your concern for them. Investing is an adult activity, not a child's game. And the rules are simple ... make your own decisions based on your own DD. If I lose money, I blame myself. If I make money, I applaud myself.

And that's the BOTTOMLINE. [Cool]


 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Ya at this point having Fan come in was more than I expected from this. Thgers actually half a chance to still make some money on our stock.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
Comcast may buy E! stake - report

By Gabriel Madway, MarketWatch
Last Update: 9:21 PM ET Mar 13, 2006


SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Comcast Corp. is in talks to buy the remainder of E! Entertainment Television Inc. from Walt Disney Co., according to a media report late Monday.

The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site that Comcast (CMCSA), the largest cable TV distributor in the United States, is looking to acquire the remaining 40% interest in E! it doesn't already own.

The talks were first reported in a trade publication, Broadcasting & Cable.

Analysts estimate E!, in total, is worth around $2 billion to $3 billion, according to The Journal.

E! Entertainment Television is made up of two parts: E!, a gossip, celebrity news and reality show cable channel, and Style Network, a fashion channel.

E! reaches an audience of 86 million homes, while Style Network reaches about 40 million, The Journal said.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7BFD26F73A%2DA5D2%2D49F9%2DA40D%2D539FE1478B78%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Pumpers and Bashers suck!

Pumpers want you to buy and/or not sell a stock
Bashers want you to sell and/or not buy a stock.

So which is the worst of the two? Well both have an agenda - theirs and not yours. IMO, it is very easy to spot a pumper or basher because they:

•claim to know more than anyone else on what is going on with a company,
•claim to have a personal relation with all the right people within a company,
•claim to know they have "inside info" which then can't share with anyone,
•attack anyone that does not see things through personal attacks and obscenities
•Immediately try to contact board administrators to ban someone they dislike,
•always want to the be first to post negative or positive info and want to take credit for it,
•are the first to say I predicted that or I knew about or I told you so, blah, blah
•will post a link to a previous post to prove that they mentioned or stated something before
•will go back and find someone else’s post to prove a person wrong about something
•post non-stop all day, night, morning and weekend, holidays, etc,
•will start PM’ing and collaborating with others in order to gang up on someone


In general however, I believe that pumpers are the slimiest and the worst of the two…
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Wow ... quietest Q board I've seen in weeks. Is everyone afraid to be labeled a "pumper or basher"? [Eek!] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
i know nothing
i know noone
i have never contacted q so i dont have insider info
ive rarely attacked anyone
im usually late to post any info
i post sometimes too much and other times not enough
i rarely pm .

i do have a guilty conscience that is why i feel the need to defend myself hehehee.

just another silly qbidiot. long and strong.

i will add though i really dont think pumpers/bashers really affect a stocks price much . just my humble idiotic opinions. hehehe.

good luck all and may the shi$ never hit the fan.

keep on blowing fan hahaha. we need a tornado to take this stock upwards.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
so what are you then Dew it?

basically if you post then your either a pumper or a basher.

lol


you got the ropes covered.

no one is allowed to say anything good or bad or post anynegative or positive news.


i have a question. what is someone that posts both the positive and the negative news?
is he a pasher or a bumper?

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Pumpers and Bashers suck!

Pumpers want you to buy and/or not sell a stock
Bashers want you to sell and/or not buy a stock.

So which is the worst of the two? Well both have an agenda - theirs and not yours. IMO, it is very easy to spot a pumper or basher because they:

•claim to know more than anyone else on what is going on with a company,
•claim to have a personal relation with all the right people within a company,
•claim to know they have "inside info" which then can't share with anyone,
•attack anyone that does not see things through personal attacks and obscenities
•Immediately try to contact board administrators to ban someone they dislike,
•always want to the be first to post negative or positive info and want to take credit for it,
•are the first to say I predicted that or I knew about or I told you so, blah, blah
•will post a link to a previous post to prove that they mentioned or stated something before
•will go back and find someone else’s post to prove a person wrong about something
•post non-stop all day, night, morning and weekend, holidays, etc,
•will start PM’ing and collaborating with others in order to gang up on someone


In general however, I believe that pumpers are the slimiest and the worst of the two…


 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
good point pennytrader. i think maybe they are a pdumper. or maybe a dpumper.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I wanna be a basher. It sounds more macho. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
i know nothing ... i know noone ... i have never contacted q so i dont have insider info ...
ive rarely attacked anyone ... im usually late to post any info ... i post sometimes too much and other times not enough ... i rarely pm ... i do have a guilty conscience that is why i feel the need to defend myself hehehee. just another silly qbidiot. long and strong. i will add though i really dont think pumpers/bashers really affect a stocks price much. just my humble idiotic opinions. hehehe. good luck all and may the shi$ never hit the fan. keep on blowing fan hahaha. we need a tornado to take this stock upwards.

noah
So you're using the Sergeant Schultz defense now ("Hogan's Heroes"): "I know NOTHING ... NOTHING!"

Good strategy ... it always worked for him ... [Big Grin]

And I agree with you: I don't think pumping and bashing affects a stock's price much ... as long as everyone does their own DD and makes their own investment decisions. And if they don't ... well, "stupid is as stupid does" ("Forrest Gump"). [Cool]
 
Posted by tomktoo on :
 
Geez Dew it, that covers everyone on all the boards! but we all seem to live thru it don't we? good luck to all of us!
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
... i have a question. what is someone that posts both the positive and the negative news?

Rod
Confused? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
lol im confused lol
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
I wanna be a basher. It sounds more macho. [Big Grin]

HT
I wanna be a "masher" (Definition: a man who makes passes at women). When you're a man who owns a "gay" stock, you gotta do what you can to maintain a macho image. [Big Grin]

Just kidding, everyone. I don't have a problem telling people I own shares in a company whose primary audience is GLBT ... but I do get a little embarrassed when I admit I'm losing my ...

BUTT ... if Mr. Fan makes this pay off someday, I'll move from "chump" to "champ". And I think that's worth the risk of holding my shares.

Oops ... did I just do a "no-no" by expressing a slightly optimistic OPINION? My bad ... mea culpa, mea culpa. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
I want to be a PUMPER sounds good for the girls.lol
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
lol im confused lol

Rod
I think we all are ... no matter which way we lean or which way we dream. It comes from lack of information ... almost as bad as lack of air.

Which gives me a chance to make another bad joke: "Come on, Mr. Fan, blow some air our way."

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Whats this stock doing? OK, we have had .0001 for the last 4 days or so and he volume has been of the chart. Did the MM's take a mid-year vacation on this on? Will it start moving anytime soon?

Do we see another pop to .0008?
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
we've been at .0001 for 2 months now, i think, maybe close to 3? and we usually get atleast 1-2billion in volume every day, hopefully Mr. Fan will change that
 
Posted by aj1162 on :
 
pop? not to sound negative, but i don't think this has had a pop in well over a year, and has no signs of one either. maybe once the new management can get settled something will happen, but don't count on a pr to move this thing.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
yea, prs are actually what makes this stock drop, its weird, but it does...still though, im long and holding
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
So, in other words the target entry to at .0001 and the target sell is at .0001 too.

I have a few mil. of this pick, so should i hold or fold?
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
might as well hold, youve held this long
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
No point in holding unless it spikes up within 5 days.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
i seriously don't think its going to spike anytime soon.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
No point in holding unless it spikes up within 5 days.

K2
Five days from today?
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
The Q website is totally out of date. I'm cluless what the programming is today.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
The Q website is totally out of date. I'm cluless what the programming is today.

DIG
I seldom check it. Is it unusual for the site to be out of date? I wonder who does the updating ... inhouse people or outsourced?
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
let you know if any response....

richard--

mr. fan did a good thing with carol hinnant.

as per mr. fan's Letter from the CEO of TMM/QTN on the website:
"...any questions that can publicly be answered will be done through Richard Brown."


some of MY (long-time) shareholder concerns to please pass on:


valuation can not be made until the assignment of frank's 53% ownership is known.

til then, he's not gone.


status of lbs, nti, other tmm dba entities...


filings in Washington (TMM/QTN) and Nevada (LBS/NTI/?dba? ie: Gulf State Holding)...


that pesky share structure...


when these issues are addressed, a more accurate valuation can be made.
investors/shareholders need to know what they own.

i'm sure i'm not the only one that believes that the share price would improve if this information were known.


please pass on these legitimate issues to mr. fan.

again i thank you for your efforts.


sincerely,
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Ive been trying to sell half of my stand in QBID to free up some cap. and the order has been pending for 25min.

Wonder if ill ever be able to sell!?!?
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Bottom... yes

Im going to sell some of my shares and hold just 10m until this thing rises. I have too much rapped up in this.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Niether, but if I had to choose then, I have to say that I am more of an instigator; Therefore, maybe a Pumpingator or Bashingator. But certainly not a Pumper or Basher.... Boring day at the office. But, I think I have made my point. [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
so what are you then Dew it?

basically if you post then your either a pumper or a basher.

lol


you got the ropes covered.

no one is allowed to say anything good or bad or post anynegative or positive news.


i have a question. what is someone that posts both the positive and the negative news?
is he a pasher or a bumper?

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Pumpers and Bashers suck!

Pumpers want you to buy and/or not sell a stock
Bashers want you to sell and/or not buy a stock.

So which is the worst of the two? Well both have an agenda - theirs and not yours. IMO, it is very easy to spot a pumper or basher because they:

•claim to know more than anyone else on what is going on with a company,
•claim to have a personal relation with all the right people within a company,
•claim to know they have "inside info" which then can't share with anyone,
•attack anyone that does not see things through personal attacks and obscenities
•Immediately try to contact board administrators to ban someone they dislike,
•always want to the be first to post negative or positive info and want to take credit for it,
•are the first to say I predicted that or I knew about or I told you so, blah, blah
•will post a link to a previous post to prove that they mentioned or stated something before
•will go back and find someone else’s post to prove a person wrong about something
•post non-stop all day, night, morning and weekend, holidays, etc,
•will start PM’ing and collaborating with others in order to gang up on someone


In general however, I believe that pumpers are the slimiest and the worst of the two…



 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Bottom... yes

Im going to sell some of my shares and hold just 10m until this thing rises. I have too much rapped up in this.

K2
Thanks ... I thought you might have had a reason to expect something within that time period.

I've considered freeing up dead money too, although I still have a "gambler's hope" for a miracle card to hit the board ... and with the recent staff changes, I'm concerned about getting out at the wrong time.

Please, everyone, don't read this as a "pump". I don't think we will see any significant improvement in Q's PPS until Mr. Fan corrects all the problems ... if he corrects all the problems. I'm holding for my own personal reasons. Everyone has to do what they feel is right for them.

GL to us all ... although I hope luck is not our only chance for success. [Smile]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:10:03 -0600
From: "Kevin Boyer GGVII" <kevin.boyer*gaygameschicago.org> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "mike XXXXX" <XXXXXXX*yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: QTN

Mike;

We are aware of many changes at Q Television. We continue to discuss with them the mutual goal of televising the Gay Games. We are also looking at other options.

Kevin
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Not surprising.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Hey, everyone. Quiet day, so while we wait for new facts we can digest, how about some speculation on the daily trading volume.

So I am asking these questions ... again:

1) Who is selling ... and why (especially the huge blocks)?
2) Who is buying ... and why?

Although I am open to any serious opinions, I think a "fact of life" should be considered: No one buys shares in a company unless they expect to make money on the shares.

So, again, who is buying ... and why?
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
It hit .0001 at 40 billion. Now with 350 billion shares if they can get someone to buy this stock. they are selling it at 7 times the value. Current value is .000017. So if share holders sell now they are way ahead.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Bottom,

Do you recall last year, when Frankie the Fraudster "communicated" to us that someone offered to purchase QTN for low hundered $millions or so (if this were true)? Maybe it was Lloyd? Specualtion here... but if Lloyd was rejected and kept buying up shares while Frankie is diluting and selling shares to finance QTN...meanwhile Lloyd keeps buying, then naturaully Frankie has to keep increasing A/S in attempt to maintain his 53% and still have money to run QTN. Is this how Lloyd managed to take over? It is fishy that he is appointed as interm president that he takes over completely. Is Frankie the Fraudster still selling his shares while Lloyd purchases them? None of us know how much Lloyd and his investors are worth, but I am sure that he or whomever offered the $100 mills last summer would have no problem with $35M (based on QBID 350M A/S) to take over????
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Not this one! kilhs LOL
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kilhs:
It hit .0001 at 40 billion. Now with 350 billion shares if they can get someone to buy this stock. they are selling it at 7 times the value. Current value is .000017. So if share holders sell now they are way ahead.

kilhs
Okay ... now who is buying?

By the way ... how are you, shlik? Haven't talked with you lately.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Bottom, Do you recall last year, when Frankie the Fraudster "communicated" to us that someone offered to purchase QTN for low hundered $millions or so (if this were true)? Maybe it was Lloyd? Specualtion here... but if Lloyd was rejected and kept buying up shares while Frankie is diluting and selling shares to finance QTN...meanwhile Lloyd keeps buying, then naturaully Frankie has to keep increasing A/S in attempt to maintain his 53% and still have money to run QTN. Is this how Lloyd managed to take over? It is fishy that he is appointed as interm president that he takes over completely. Is Frankie the Fraudster still selling his shares while Lloyd purchases them? None of us know how much Lloyd and his investors are worth, but I am sure that he or whomever offered the $100 mills last summer would have no problem with $35M (based on QBID 350M A/S) to take over????

Dew
You've asked many good questions. And your speculaton would explain both sides of the equation ... who's buying and who's selling.

Thanks.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Noobs that want to see a million shares in their account I guess, or qbidiots?
I'm doing good thanks, took a long lunch, so I jumped on the computer. How are you.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
I just got two five star ratings. Thanks guys it felt good. when my stars reach 4 then start buying Q again.
 
Posted by dskalka on :
 
I would like to add that just because Frank said he maintained a 53% share of the stocks does not make it true. perhaps it was another lie to keep us share holders from taking the company from him. And maybe Fan realized this and took the company from Frank.

I would think that a man in Fan's position could be privy to information that we could not get.

Danny
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kilhs:
Noobs that want to see a million shares in their account I guess, or qbidiots?
I'm doing good thanks, took a long lunch, so I jumped on the computer. How are you.

kilhs
Thanks for your thoughts.

In my opinion, it's "possible" that there are enough individuals to buy the billions of Q shares that have been sold, but I just don't think it's "probable".

Someone suggested recently that the billions of shares traded each day are mostly MMs moving them back and forth and that only a few millions actually move between individual owners. If that is true, then your speculation makes a lot more sense to me.

I'm not trying to dispute you, but billions of shares traded every day is just mind-boggling to me.

And I'm glad you're doing well. Nothing much has changed with me. Still watching stocks and just as confused as ever. [Smile]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dskalka:
I would like to add that just because Frank said he maintained a 53% share of the stocks does not make it true. perhaps it was another lie to keep us share holders from taking the company from him. And maybe Fan realized this and took the company from Frank.

I would think that a man in Fan's position could be privy to information that we could not get.

Danny

precisely why share structure and status of owned entities must be disclosed.


treasury stock (if any), o/s, free-trading shares...

lbs, nti, and any other dba entities (like gulf state) that frank may have...


might i remind everyone, this is a PUBLIC company--and that as shareholders WE OWN IT.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Ya if it was so easy it wouldnt be any fun. The power of positive thinking can only go so far, the new owner has the same foundation, non reporting. Mr. Fan would be able to tell us shareholders what we own, share structure, real numbers, and is there an audit ? Was there an audit? Can we see it?. But now three prs and he has not, so I dont see anything changing.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
IMO it is early in game with Lloyd and I am wiling to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being because I have nothing to loose at this point. At least he got rid of Frankie the Fraudster and crew. I thing that is a start/change.

quote:
Originally posted by kilhs:
Ya if it was so easy it wouldnt be any fun. The power of positive thinking can only go so far, the new owner has the same foundation, non reporting. Mr. Fan would be able to tell us shareholders what we own, share structure, real numbers, and is there an audit ? Was there an audit? Can we see it?. But now three prs and he has not, so I dont see anything changing.


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
This obviously is a critical turning point. Yes KC your right, our knowledge of ownership status regarding Frank's 53% is important for us as well as it is for those new investors, lurking, that may have been up until now reluctant to invest because of Frank’s performance.

The removal process of Frank is “key” and will certainly be used as a measuring tool by new investors big and small to determine if TMM worthy of their investments.

If it is learned after transparency that Frank remains in control, I'm afraid TMM's reputation will be forevermore tainted by his inabilities, betrayals and misuse. Therefore, in my opinion, from a big investors perspective point of view, no matter the efforts of Hinnant's leaps and bounds, TMM could never live up to their expectations.

And that my fiends would leave us with an investment that never comes to its full potential in respect to returns.

But nonetheless, we'll just have to continue to wait. And hopefully we'll soon learn that Frank is no longer in control. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I hope to god he is more worried about keeping the company alive than releasing investor info just yet.
I want all of that info, but bankruptcy is the one thing that guarantees we are screwed!
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
just yet. please. its been two years
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
New ceo, he has been there 2 weeks, not years.

He does owe us info, but we have already been to no-bid status a couple of times. It can't get any worse, why not wait?
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Which reminds me... I need a nickname for Lloyd. Frankie had many: Frankie Boy, Frankie the Fraudster, Frankie the Scammer, and some that I can’t even mention. So for Lloyd Fan how about:

Lloyd the Boyd,
Avoid the Lloyd
Lloyd Void
Frank- Lloyd Wright (hybrid Frankie/Lloyd)lol!
Lloyd Right
Lloyd Wrong
Lloyds of London
Lloyd of the Rings
HemorrLloyd
Pink Lloyd
Lloyd Pinkie (as in pinkie stock)
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I am hoping it will be "Fan the Man"
and not "Dam Fan"
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
actually, I think qBID has been around since 97-99

quote:
Originally posted by kilhs:
just yet. please. its been two years


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Naw, ya u da man Hoss!

quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
I am hoping it will be "Fan the Man"
and not "Dam Fan"


 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Pretty boy Lloyd?
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
that's a good one!! Pretty boy Lloyd and QBID.

course havent seen a pic of Lloyd but ya gota think he is better looking than Frankie

quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Pretty boy Lloyd?


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Pumpers and Bashers suck!

Pumpers want you to buy and/or not sell a stock
Bashers want you to sell and/or not buy a stock.

In general however, I believe that pumpers are the slimiest and the worst of the two…

Hey I might be way off here but I'll be willing to predict that until we have transparency, the pumpers, bashers and PR'S will no longer affect the pps a great deal. In fact, I'd be willing to say that what little new investors we accumulate, the pps will go no hire than .0002

jmho [Smile]
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
that's a good one!! Pretty boy Lloyd and QBID.

course havent seen a pic of Lloyd but ya gota think he is better looking than Frankie

quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Pretty boy Lloyd?


LOL I can't imagine anyone not being better looking than Frank! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
zactly... I can see your logic. [Smile] LOL!

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Pumpers and Bashers suck!

Pumpers want you to buy and/or not sell a stock
Bashers want you to sell and/or not buy a stock.

In general however, I believe that pumpers are the slimiest and the worst of the two…

Hey I might be way off here but I'll be willing to predict that until we have transparency, the pumpers, bashers and PR'S will no longer affect the pps a great deal. In fact, I'd be willing to say that what little new investors we accumulate, the pps will go no hire than .0002

jmho [Smile]


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:10:03 -0600
From: "Kevin Boyer GGVII" <kevin.boyer*gaygameschicago.org> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "mike XXXXX" <XXXXXXX*yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: QTN

Mike;

We are aware of many changes at Q Television. We continue to discuss with them the mutual goal of televising the Gay Games. We are also looking at other options.

Kevin

I just hope that Hinnant can pull a rabbit out of her butt for the GG Federation. I think it's gonna take a silver tongue to keep an ongoing business/media relationship.

"We are also looking at other options."

In my opinion, this is one red flag that shows the GG Fed lacks a compelling vision of Q.
 
Posted by kaos on :
 
hey everyone ..just a though..
at this point it is as good a guess as everything else so here goes.....
as posted this morning comcast wants to buy up the remaining percentage of e television network..q in it self since the begining has been a great idea...it just hasn't been worked properly...now what makes you think that possibly comcast has looked at the potential of this company and has been buying as much stock as cheaply and as quickly as possible..it would be a logical move to do this..the worst that could happen to them would be a tax loss..on the other hand they could own most of the cmpany for nothing and behind the scenes turn this into a monster money machine while holding all the cards..
just my opinion what do you think....
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
seep tight qbidians another day closer to next week is over.

the real investment in qbid is a test of our patience and sanity. im not sure if ill ever make a dime off this but i will learn the lesson of patience for better or worse. im gonna wait this out till the end or till i cash out millions. hehehee.
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kaos:
hey everyone ..just a though..
at this point it is as good a guess as everything else so here goes.....
as posted this morning comcast wants to buy up the remaining percentage of e television network..q in it self since the begining has been a great idea...it just hasn't been worked properly...now what makes you think that possibly comcast has looked at the potential of this company and has been buying as much stock as cheaply and as quickly as possible..it would be a logical move to do this..the worst that could happen to them would be a tax loss..on the other hand they could own most of the cmpany for nothing and behind the scenes turn this into a monster money machine while holding all the cards..
just my opinion what do you think....

-----------------------------------------------

With speculation, anything is possible! lol

I'll add another twist. What if our Mr. Fan had the same thought, had connections with some of the Q people and beat them to the punch?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ahhh yess lies deceit rumours all we need is a murder and we have the makings of a top selling novel.

lol

Rod
 
Posted by 2crazynuts on :
 
Dew-it... I find you to be obnoxious at best, before you nickname anyone you might hold off and see where there going to lead us and QBIB.
Bull**** gets you nowhere but deeper in ****.
Don't like my attitude... I don't realy care...I been in this for over 2 years now and I can wait and see what happens before I let my mouth overide my ass with senseless rhetoric.
Sit back and be patient...QBID is still a viable enterprize and a possible gold mine in it's infancy with the right leadership.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
looks like q's getting a new website...


easyCGI

the future home of

qtelevision.com


http://www.qtelevision.com/
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
what do you mean it looks like the normal website to me.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
looks like q's getting a new website...


easyCGI

the future home of

qtelevision.com


http://www.qtelevision.com/


 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
don't know. it just said:

easyCGI

the future home of

qtelevision.com

...guess they were just working on it--sorry....


when it said "future home", i thought....

[ March 15, 2006, 07:15: Message edited by: King Crimson ]
 
Posted by dixtigger on :
 
Here's some info on Q-TV

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-48,GGLD:en&q=Q%20Television%20Network&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wn
 
Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
ahhh yess lies deceit rumours all we need is a murder and we have the makings of a top selling novel.

lol

Rod

someone snuck in and killed my pet goldfish that swam upside down last night... Does that count?
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
ahhh yess lies deceit rumours all we need is a murder and we have the makings of a top selling novel.

lol

Rod

I think Frank killed this stock.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
ahhh yess lies deceit rumours all we need is a murder and we have the makings of a top selling novel. lol Rod

I think Frank killed this stock.
Clyde
If Q could talk ... I think it might quote Mark Twain regarding your comment: "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."

However, I agree Q has been on a morphine drip lately and may need some cardiac shocks to get going again. Let's hope Mr. Fan has a good trauma team to assist him ... and that Dr. Kevorkian is not one of them. [Smile]
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Whatever happen to .0002.. are they gone forever? Haven't seen any since Frank got booted out.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I don’t have a problem or your attitude and it does not bother that you find me obnoxious, I promise you, I will not loose sleep over it. You and every poster here are entitled to their opinion, as I. Besides, I wouldn't expect anything less from a fellow Army comrade.

Anyhow, in case you didn’t know it, I have also been here for over two years and have invested a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money into QBID and I too can wait, since I don’t have another option at this point. Meanwhile, as far as nicknames, it is nothing personal toward’s Lloyd the Floyd…and if you wish to ignore my comments you are welcome. However, I will continue to make comments as I see fit. BTW, I gave you 5 stars just for engaging. [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by 2crazynuts:
Dew-it... I find you to be obnoxious at best, before you nickname anyone you might hold off and see where there going to lead us and QBIB.
Bull**** gets you nowhere but deeper in ****.
Don't like my attitude... I don't realy care...I been in this for over 2 years now and I can wait and see what happens before I let my mouth overide my ass with senseless rhetoric.
Sit back and be patient...QBID is still a viable enterprize and a possible gold mine in it's infancy with the right leadership.


 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Um..... .00 as of now. Now what???


Still trying to sell from yesterday
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
OK, back to .0001

Anyone tried to sell this lately???


IMPOSSIBLE!
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Ameritrade is showing .0002 as high of the day, and Yahoo charts show a spike to .0002. But I don't see any trades at that price. Can anyone confirm that? No big deal, but I don't know what data to believe anymore.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I just put an order in to sell it all at .0001. I'll let you know if it executes.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
I show .0002 as the high.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ahhh that will work ill take it

lol


quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
ahhh yess lies deceit rumours all we need is a murder and we have the makings of a top selling novel.

lol

Rod

someone snuck in and killed my pet goldfish that swam upside down last night... Does that count?

 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Wow, never thought I'd see this thread fall off the first page!
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
OK, back to .0001

Anyone tried to sell this lately???


IMPOSSIBLE!

lol, welcome to Qbid, 2K.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Wow, never thought I'd see this thread fall off the first page!

LEO
Me too ... but no one seems to be posting lately. I guess we've already said it all ... DD, facts, opinions, speculations, guesses, lies, whatever.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
BT,

I buy today at 10:32:09 see below:

10:32:09 5000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:27:21 300000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:27:12 300000 0.0001 OTCEQ_NBB


quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Ameritrade is showing .0002 as high of the day, and Yahoo charts show a spike to .0002. But I don't see any trades at that price. Can anyone confirm that? No big deal, but I don't know what data to believe anymore.


 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
on a slow day, and with the talk of satellite....


EchoStar's profit jumps on 12.8% quarterly revenue growth

By Mike Maynard
Last Update: 6:24 AM ET Mar 15, 2006


WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- EchoStar Communications Corp. (DISH) reported fourth-quarter net income of $133 million, or 30 cents a share, up from $70 million, or 15 cents, earned in the final three months of 2004. Earnings are presented in terms of basic shares. The satellite-television operator's total revenue reached $2.18 billion for the latest quarter, up 12.8% from the prior year. Analysts had been looking for earnings of 35 cents a share, on average, on revenue of $2.19 billion, according to estimates compiled by Thomson First Call. Net new subscribers added to EchoStar's Dish Network numbered about 330,000 for the quarter, pushing the customer base to 12.04 million. For 2005 as a whole, EchoStar said Dish Network added nearly 1.14 million subscribers. Shares of EchoStar added 30 cents, or 1%, to end Tuesday's trading at $29.35

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B23D59FE3%2D431B%2D4C42%2DA857%2D808DFFB4A953%7D&siteid=mktw
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
BT,

I buy today at 10:32:09 see below:

10:32:09 5000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:27:21 300000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:27:12 300000 0.0001 OTCEQ_NBB


quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Ameritrade is showing .0002 as high of the day, and Yahoo charts show a spike to .0002. But I don't see any trades at that price. Can anyone confirm that? No big deal, but I don't know what data to believe anymore.


Dew
Thanks. So there really was a trade for 5 million at .0002? Very interesting.

I now have two more questions:

1) Who bought at .0002?
2) When will he quit beating his head against the wall? [Eek!]

Now, back to thinking positive thoughts:
If this ever takes off (and I said "IF"), he probably won't care. But I bet he has a headache for a few days ... at least. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bawz2wawz on :
 
Can anyone fill me in with whats been going on lately with this in 50 words or less, thanks
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
How about four words....Shareholders are getting screwed!
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bawz2wawz:
Can anyone fill me in with whats been going on lately with this in 50 words or less, thanks

Bawz
Frank's out, Fan's in, no visible change.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bawz2wawz:
Can anyone fill me in with whats been going on lately with this in 50 words or less, thanks

Bawz this is a GREAT product and has GREAT potential, but if you are not yet invested then I suggest you and all other new investors stand clear until transparency. jmho

But then again, to each his own. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Bawz2wawz:
Can anyone fill me in with whats been going on lately with this in 50 words or less, thanks

Bawz this is a GREAT product and has GREAT potential, but if you are not yet invested then I suggest you and all other new investors stand clear until transparency. jmho

But then again, to each his own. [Big Grin]

QBID'n
Well said ... honest and objective (IMO). I agree with you. [Smile]
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
those be some odd number of shares being traded near eod
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
My fellow Qbiders...

Just announcing new Advocate magazine is out. [Big Grin]

Go to their website at www.advocate (do(t.com.

Look at upper right hand corner entitled "current issue"

Have a good night everybody [Wink]
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
LMAO I am surprised it took you that long to post it today MT!

See, we were both right!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
6 MM`s increased the ask to 0002 in the last 5 min, still no bid but this has not heppened in a while, maybe some life comming back into this?
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
Q closes the day with only 2MM on the ask at .0001. This could be the best news in a month or two. Good luck
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
Q closes the day with only 2MM on the ask at .0001. This could be the best news in a month or two. Good luck

actualy as of now no MM`s on at 0001 all at 0002 0003, we might see a bid quote in the AM, or not!
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Lets hope this a good sign. It is very unusual because for the past several weeks 9-10 MM would be at .0001 till the end and after. Maybe we will get the BID back soon. Baby steps...

quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
Q closes the day with only 2MM on the ask at .0001. This could be the best news in a month or two. Good luck

actualy as of now no MM`s on at 0001 all at 0002 0003, we might see a bid quote in the AM, or not!

 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
My order to sell all at .0001 did not execute today.
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
Much respect to MT!!!


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
My fellow Qbiders...

Just announcing new Advocate magazine is out. [Big Grin]

Go to their website at www.advocate (do(t.com.

Look at upper right hand corner entitled "current issue"

Have a good night everybody [Wink]


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
My fellow Qbiders...

Just announcing new Advocate magazine is out. [Big Grin]

Go to their website at www.advocate (do(t.com.

Look at upper right hand corner entitled "current issue"

Have a good night everybody [Wink]

aahahaha...hey be nice bro. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
Ditto (imo)

GF

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Bawz2wawz:
Can anyone fill me in with whats been going on lately with this in 50 words or less, thanks

Bawz this is a GREAT product and has GREAT potential, but if you are not yet invested then I suggest you and all other new investors stand clear until transparency. jmho

But then again, to each his own. [Big Grin]

QBID'n
Well said ... honest and objective (IMO). I agree with you. [Smile]


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
... your were right. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
My fellow Qbiders...

Just announcing new Advocate magazine is out. [Big Grin]

Go to their website at www.advocate (do(t.com.

Look at upper right hand corner entitled "current issue"

Have a good night everybody [Wink]


 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
Q closes the day with only 2MM on the ask at .0001. This could be the best news in a month or two. Good luck

actualy as of now no MM`s on at 0001 all at 0002 0003, we might see a bid quote in the AM, or not!
Carrot on a stick? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Kudos MillerTIME for bringing the info over from IHUB. You are truly a brilliant man!!!

FYI, all press is good.

Let the good times roll...
 
Posted by freebird68nj on :
 
Fill in those of us that are in the dark, waht does the article state? Thnx in advance!


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
My fellow Qbiders...

Just announcing new Advocate magazine is out. [Big Grin]

Go to their website at www.advocate (do(t.com.

Look at upper right hand corner entitled "current issue"

Have a good night everybody [Wink]


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Yes butt where has that carrot been QBIDn.
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
I have had the same order put in for 2 trading sessions now and after the close it got kicked out and is NOT pending. Does this stock NOT sell???

I show the high at .0002 as well. Does this mean good things??? Will we have a change of price in the early morning pre-open?
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
YEP GAPPER TO AROUND .05 IMO.LMAO
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
imak wouldnt that just be a dream come true . i would sell half right away . hahaha.

anyone care to mention what was in that link millertime posted i went to the site but wasnt sure what to look for. thanx in advace. and yes please be patient with the small bus qbidiots like myself im not always so quick to the point.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
noah129, I WOULD FALL TO THE FLOOR IF WE HIT .05.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
imak are you still getting programming on Q?

quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
noah129, I WOULD FALL TO THE FLOOR IF WE HIT .05.


 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
YES
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Hmmmmmmmm,

Advocate as seen on LOGO...........

What else could be expected, an endorsement, lol?

Yes, Dew, baby steps--could be the race of the tortise and the hair!
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
So, will we have a heart attack again in the afternoon or anytime in the trading session when this thing hits .00 before it hits .0002?

Has anyone been able to dump their shares or are they having the same problem as me and a couple other posters?
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
What do you mean hits .00?
 
Posted by Mudpuppy on :
 
I just finished typing out some large portions of the article from "The Advocate" and then my computer crashed, so the gods of something don't want me to post it. Suffice to say the article didn't contain any particularly new information, but things sound like they were quite dire under Frank Olsen. Staff members treated horribly, people lied to, staff fearing being "blacklisted" if they spoke to the press, etc. The most interesting tidbit in the article was the fact that 100+ employees were laid off on February 11th, and that Olsen and other executives planned to continue to provide two hours of live programming per day on their own. Then they figured out they didn't have the expertise to pull it off, doh! They then rehired a few key technical staff on February 13th. People who weren't rehired still hadn't been paid as of the date of the article, which was February 23rd. There was no mention of Mr. Fan in the article, so I have no idea how things have changed under his management, or if those laid-off staffers have been paid. There were many complaints made to the California Labor Board, according to the article.

I've only got 3 million shares of QBID, and luckily I've only lost about $500. I originally heard about QBID back in the fall of 2004 when I was approached to design and maintain a website related to promoting QTN. I was going to be paid in "advertising revenue", and was encouraged to buy QBID shares because they'd soon be worth a fortune. I was told that "anything gay and lesbian is going to be a hit", and I was told it by a straight guy who knew nothing about the gay and lesbian market, so I turned him down. Yes, I still bought some shares "just in case", but I'm sure glad I didn't get sucked in any further.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I have had no problems at all.

but hey im not looking to sell this low so i guess my problem is figuring when to sell.

I will not sell for a loss. that goes against my instincts.

no problem


rod


quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
So, will we have a heart attack again in the afternoon or anytime in the trading session when this thing hits .00 before it hits .0002?

Has anyone been able to dump their shares or are they having the same problem as me and a couple other posters?


 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I am not a fan of stinky, but posting contact info on a public board?
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
LEO-

Today, the low hit .00, the stock was worth NOTHING!!!
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
LEO-

Today, the low hit .00, the stock was worth NOTHING!!!

It prints occasionally at .00, which nobody really knows if its .00005 and below or .00009 and below, but probably its below .00005 because many orders now are going through at .00008and 9

The occasional print you see at .0002 is called "painting the tape." This is done by only MM, and is done just to keep peoples hopes up. And works quite well IMO
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Miller- why is it that i have been UNABLE to sell this stock do you think? I have had the same sell order in for 30m or my 60m shares to free up some $$$. 2 days the order has sat and matured to become nothing but an abused stepchild that does know what to do with his life. Will my open order ever grow into a millionare or am i stuck with those 30m shares for life???
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
I am not a fan of stinky, but posting contact info on a public board?

It might not be that person... I just searched "Anne Burns-- Allston, MA" on whitepages.com... and that's what came up...

It's from the Anne Burns post anyway...
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
LMAO MT, you are good. You proved us both right at the same time.

You were right about the advocate cover.
And I was right about you.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Miller- why is it that i have been UNABLE to sell this stock do you think? I have had the same sell order in for 30m or my 60m shares to free up some $$$. 2 days the order has sat and matured to become nothing but an abused stepchild that does know what to do with his life. Will my open order ever grow into a millionare or am i stuck with those 30m shares for life???

K2snow, i know people that have had open orders at .0001 for over 2 weeks now. What happens is that you end up standing in line. Back 2 or 3 months ago there is a lineup that begins, and the longer you wait the more shares that have to be bought at .0001 until your order goes through.

So most likely there is 1 or 2 MM that has been diluting the entire AS now (presumably 100-250Billion shares) at the ask of .0001 and until those shares are either sold, or stop being sold, will your order go thru.

On a positive note, the level II used to be
no bid x .0001
0 x 10

but today near the close it dropped dramatically to
no bid x .0001
0 x 2

Which means there is now only 2 MM looking to sell shares at .0001. Now my guess is that at least one of them is the diluting MM, which means that he is proabbly the one selling 100B+ shares recently, and until he lets up you will not be able to sell. But right once the ask upticks to .0002 will your order go through.

I know this is probably long and confusion, but short and to the point, there is a lonnnnnnng lineup, you are at the end, and could be tommorrow or next year, or never until the MM will fill your order.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
LMAO MT, you are good. You proved us both right at the same time.

You were right about the advocate cover.
And I was right about you.

Tell me Hoss, what were you right about me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
But everyday, the orders get kicked out on Scottrade. I had the orders in and at the close of market, the orders were kicked.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
-----Just gonna show a couple quick posts from a couple days ago of people bashing me and telling me im wrong. But let this be a lesson to all you youngsters, to stand up for what you believe in. LMAO. college kids these days that think they are smarter than everyone else. What are they thinkin? LMAO ahahahah

-----#1 Hosstrader---


HossTrader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 12:17 AM
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MillerTime, according to the Advocates web page, the issue coming out March 14th has some guy on the cover, not Rosie, and no article about QTN

http://www.advocate.com/

on the right side where it says "current issue"

--------------------
I just want to make enough money to be eccentric.



---------Good try HOSS---------
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
LEO-

Today, the low hit .00, the stock was worth NOTHING!!!

It prints occasionally at .00, which nobody really knows if its .00005 and below or .00009 and below, but probably its below .00005 because many orders now are going through at .00008and 9

The occasional print you see at .0002 is called "painting the tape." This is done by only MM, and is done just to keep peoples hopes up. And works quite well IMO

It's the carrot!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
But everyday, the orders get kicked out on Scottrade. I had the orders in and at the close of market, the orders were kicked.

make them GTC (good till canceled) and they will last an entire month. By not having them GTC, you are essentially starting over day after day the process of getting a seat in line to sell. Go look now for GTC, and tell me if you find it
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
Hey MT I was just reading and was surprised that one of your posts was deleted. Someone definitely doesn't want the truth to be told.

Peace..

GF

quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
-----Just gonna show a couple quick posts from a couple days ago of people bashing me and telling me im wrong. But let this be a lesson to all you youngsters, to stand up for what you believe in. LMAO. college kids these days that think they are smarter than everyone else. What are they thinkin? LMAO ahahahah

-----#1 Hosstrader---


HossTrader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 12:17 AM
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MillerTime, according to the Advocates web page, the issue coming out March 14th has some guy on the cover, not Rosie, and no article about QTN

http://www.advocate.com/

on the right side where it says "current issue"

--------------------
I just want to make enough money to be eccentric.



---------Good try HOSS---------


 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
---LMAO #2 Pennytrader. Classact IMO...aahhaahah, sit back down PT.------


Penny-Trader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 12:42 AM
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quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by MillerTIME:


That cover is the upcoming cover for the advocate and will be on newstands March 15th.

ANd let me save you bashers the trouble, no need to tell me im liening or am just a kid, or all that old jazz. The truth will be in the pudding on march 15th when the new issue comes out. Good luck to all.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

a picture tells a 1000 words so i will not tell you that you are liening, what ever that means. but im assuming you ment lieing.

i still wont. i will let the picture talk for us.



Issue 958, March 14, 2006
Different games, familiar hurdles
Organizers of this summer’s two competitions for gay athletes say they’ve learned their lessons so the events will be profitable now and viable for the future
By Fred Kuhr


--------your too easy PT, but i like your constant efforts. -----------
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Rattle on MT rattle on [Big Grin] Just keep it stock related not personal.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
-----Just gonna show a couple quick posts from a couple days ago of people bashing me and telling me im wrong. But let this be a lesson to all you youngsters, to stand up for what you believe in. LMAO. college kids these days that think they are smarter than everyone else. What are they thinkin? LMAO ahahahah

-----#1 Hosstrader---


HossTrader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 12:17 AM
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MillerTime, according to the Advocates web page, the issue coming out March 14th has some guy on the cover, not Rosie, and no article about QTN

http://www.advocate.com/

on the right side where it says "current issue"

--------------------
I just want to make enough money to be eccentric.



---------Good try HOSS---------

Nice try kid. Read my post that you quoted. What did I say that wasn't true? I just pointed out that what was on the Advocates home page was in direct conflict with what you had said. Is that bashing?

You cut and past things from IHUB that most of us have already read and call it DD. Then you act as if everyone is dying to hear your opinion. You are a narcissistic youngin.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Rattle on MT rattle on [Big Grin] Just keep it stock related not personal.

I wont bring you know what up Doc, but just for the heck of it, can ya tell me im right and your wrong. Im just a kid, and it makes me feel king of the world!
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey Doc, it is always your call, but feel free to let MT say anything at all he wants to about me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Rattle on MT rattle on [Big Grin] Just keep it stock related not personal.

I wont bring you know what up Doc, but just for the heck of it, can ya tell me im right and your wrong. Im just a kid, and it makes me feel king of the world!
Bring what up Miller, your lunch???? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
---LMAO--Contestant Number 3...Estaban wanted to give me a try..You put up a good effort, but, youll have to take a seat with the rest of the crowd. ahha----

Esteban99
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 10:29 AM
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go to www.advocate.com and check out the current issue.

Most definitely not about the demise of Q
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey Doc, it is always your call, but feel free to let MT say anything at all he wants to about me. [Big Grin]

Hey hoss, i wont say anything bad about you, im just havin some fun. in fact, i just recently saw that you didnt like me. I personally enjoy most of your posts and you seem like a good person. I have always and most likely will always like you. I was just crackin jokes, lightening up the mood, and thought it would be funny if you brought up what you thought of me.

im just pokin some fun at these people, they can do the same. the board has been a little bland lately, so i thought id spice it up. Anyways, i knew i was right to begin with, but having everyone say i was wrong did have me a little worried.

good luck bud, i like you, i know you dont like me, but lifes a b*t*h at it. lol
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Rattle on MT rattle on [Big Grin] Just keep it stock related not personal.

I wont bring you know what up Doc, but just for the heck of it, can ya tell me im right and your wrong. Im just a kid, and it makes me feel king of the world!
Bring what up Miller, your lunch???? [Big Grin]
doccc........LMAO...the kid is still waiting for his minute of fame. you know the , your right , im wrong. I was actually thinking about printing it out and brining it to class tommorrow on my stats binder!

HAHAHA, somethin to be proud of!
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
Hey doc, can you see if the mods deleted just 2 of my posts. im havin trouble remembering how many i typed becuase ive been on a roll tonight! LMAO

ill tone the one down about jennifer, but you have to say that last line made you laugh..

uhh...uhhh, come on doc, i know you were on the floor laughin!
 
Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
whats your guys target on this ...........
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Miller whatever turns your crank and fills your boots. Your remark about where I went to medical school really has nothing to do with this stock, just as your personal business is really not mine. It is about this stock and only about this stock, good or bad [Big Grin] Making personal attacks about anothers profession or preferences is never appropriate on these boards.
 
Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Miller whatever turns your crank and fills your boots. Your remark about where I went to medical school really has nothing to do with this stock, just as your personal business is really not mine. It is about this stock and only about this stock, good or bad [Big Grin] Making personal attacks about anothers profession or preferences is never appropriate on these boards.

but really, there were no personal attacks in asking you what med school you went to or whether jennifer wheres boxers or briefs. In fact, i even allowed her to say no comment if it was to personal.

were all like a family here, and the jokes really just on me in the end!
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
MT clear your message box man.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Miller you have the number call me [Big Grin]
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
K2snow I would try to put my sell order at 10M instead of higher numbers like 30M or 60M..

I am so happy I sold every single share I had a couple of months ago. I truely believe that I was mislead by misleading PR's and also a bunch of misleading folks on these boards. I was very foolish to believe in these BS... but plugging a "IMO" into a misleading message doesn't necessarily mean that the post is not misleading... anyways I will stick around here and support the underdogs... and try to spread truth and awareness about this dilluted stock. [Big Grin]

IMO [Big Grin]

GF

quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Miller- why is it that i have been UNABLE to sell this stock do you think? I have had the same sell order in for 30m or my 60m shares to free up some $$$. 2 days the order has sat and matured to become nothing but an abused stepchild that does know what to do with his life. Will my open order ever grow into a millionare or am i stuck with those 30m shares for life???


 
Posted by moremoney06 on :
 
So goodfella....your ignorance is our misfortune?


Millertime...how did your date with the CD go? Just having some fun. I really like your posts but thought I would inject some real humor. Were you the pitcher or catcher.....LOL.

Bid comes back Thursday imo.....few things on the burner....could make the next couple of weeks interesting.

Later all
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
if you post it for market sale as opposed to setting a limit sale they will go. probably for .00005


if you want out bad enough that is an option for you.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Miller- why is it that i have been UNABLE to sell this stock do you think? I have had the same sell order in for 30m or my 60m shares to free up some $$$. 2 days the order has sat and matured to become nothing but an abused stepchild that does know what to do with his life. Will my open order ever grow into a millionare or am i stuck with those 30m shares for life???


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
you have to set a good till date or they will expire end of day.


quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
But everyday, the orders get kicked out on Scottrade. I had the orders in and at the close of market, the orders were kicked.


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and what was wrong with my post? i never called you down, i posted that a picture tells a 1000 words. i said i would not call you a lier and that the picture would tell the story.

so what is your point in reposting this?

im not following your logic here.

if you would call it logic.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
---LMAO #2 Pennytrader. Classact IMO...aahhaahah, sit back down PT.------


Penny-Trader
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 07, 2006 12:42 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by MillerTIME:


That cover is the upcoming cover for the advocate and will be on newstands March 15th.

ANd let me save you bashers the trouble, no need to tell me im liening or am just a kid, or all that old jazz. The truth will be in the pudding on march 15th when the new issue comes out. Good luck to all.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

a picture tells a 1000 words so i will not tell you that you are liening, what ever that means. but im assuming you ment lieing.

i still wont. i will let the picture talk for us.



Issue 958, March 14, 2006
Different games, familiar hurdles
Organizers of this summer’s two competitions for gay athletes say they’ve learned their lessons so the events will be profitable now and viable for the future
By Fred Kuhr


--------your too easy PT, but i like your constant efforts. -----------


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Your acting like it is the first time you have ever been right, or in this case half right.

it really wasnt the cover story. it was a small reference on the cover.

so even though it took up an 1/8th or less of the cover, i am still allowing you to be half right.

so you feel triumphant about being right once. you will get over the bragging stage once you become right more often.

but you are young and have a lot to learn. you will eventually figure out what im talking about.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Rattle on MT rattle on [Big Grin] Just keep it stock related not personal.

I wont bring you know what up Doc, but just for the heck of it, can ya tell me im right and your wrong. Im just a kid, and it makes me feel king of the world!
Bring what up Miller, your lunch???? [Big Grin]
doccc........LMAO...the kid is still waiting for his minute of fame. you know the , your right , im wrong. I was actually thinking about printing it out and brining it to class tommorrow on my stats binder!

HAHAHA, somethin to be proud of!


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
The world needs more heros.

good for you fella


quote:
Originally posted by GoodFella:
K2snow I would try to put my sell order at 10M instead of higher numbers like 30M or 60M..

I am so happy I sold every single share I had a couple of months ago. I truely believe that I was mislead by misleading PR's and also a bunch of misleading folks on these boards. I was very foolish to believe in these BS... but plugging a "IMO" into a misleading message doesn't necessarily mean that the post is not misleading... anyways I will stick around here and support the underdogs... and try to spread truth and awareness about this dilluted stock. [Big Grin]

IMO [Big Grin]

GF

quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Miller- why is it that i have been UNABLE to sell this stock do you think? I have had the same sell order in for 30m or my 60m shares to free up some $$$. 2 days the order has sat and matured to become nothing but an abused stepchild that does know what to do with his life. Will my open order ever grow into a millionare or am i stuck with those 30m shares for life???



 
Posted by cactus33 on :
 
who keeps erasing posts here

LMAO

mine got erased earlier
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
interesting

i was just looking at my trading account, and they are valuing my shares at .00007

sad that we are not allowed to trade that low but the mms are allowed. seems almost criminal

Rod
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
whats it really matter? maybe you should be asking why. they are not deleted for the hell of it.

they obviously are causing problems somewhere, and have broken rules.

you have a problem with it? take it up with Bob Frey you can contact him here


quote:
Originally posted by cactus33:
who keeps erasing posts here

LMAO

mine got erased earlier


 
Posted by investinme2004 on :
 
So, how long till they run?
 
Posted by STATX on :
 
any connections to TMM/QTN?.. don't know but simularities and now CEO's main past experience reflects to me that this direction/format has a high probability of formation..
http://www.q.co.za/
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Giddy up, Q.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Anyone have L2 lineup this am?
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
oh well. The Q is alot like Lt. Dan. [Frown]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
interesting line up only 3MM on .0001 on ASK the rest are at .0002, still no BID, but maybe we will it get back soon and more.

vol 440M
.0001X3
.0000x0

quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
Anyone have L2 lineup this am?


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Another trade at .0002 was posted today. Anyone have updated L2s. Thanks.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I changed my sell order to .0002 today. (I'm dreaming big!) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
whats your guys target on this ...........

Success! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I'd be happy if I could sell at .0001 these days.

quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
whats your guys target on this ...........


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
I changed my sell order to .0002 today. (I'm dreaming big!) [Big Grin]

GB
I share your dream ... but I have a disease called "Greed" and will hold out for much much more. [Big Grin]

I'm just joking at this point, because I don't expect anything significant from Fan for awhile and therefore don't expect any significant PPS changes. But it doesn't hurt to dream while we wait.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
id be happy if you sold at .0001 as well [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
I'd be happy if I could sell at .0001 these days.

quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
whats your guys target on this ...........



 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
im just hoping that Fan can blow some wind into our sails
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Now, now. Just because you've lost so much doesn't mean you have to get testy. [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
id be happy if you sold at .0001 as well [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
I'd be happy if I could sell at .0001 these days.

quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
whats your guys target on this ...........




 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
People are still hoping on this stock??????
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Kinda makes you feel all warm, doesn't it?

quote:
Originally posted by njs300zx:
People are still hoping on this stock??????


 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
I took my profits on this one on the first big run and ran with it.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Congratulations!
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Looks like MT AND DOC had a party last night.lol
 
Posted by hapomodi on :
 
so many shares out he is going to have to do a reverse split to get any valuation in this company
 
Posted by i-c-u on :
 
hey, has anyone here noticed that the Q has gotten picked up by the Dish network?
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
WHERE DID YOU SEE THAT. i-c-u
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Really?

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
hey, has anyone here noticed that the Q has gotten picked up by the Dish network?


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
we wish..

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
hey, has anyone here noticed that the Q has gotten picked up by the Dish network?


 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I don't see anything on the Dish network's web page.
 
Posted by i-c-u on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
WHERE DID YOU SEE THAT. i-c-u

I didn't post the link because i thought it was old news however, I from:

LyngSat

EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 at 121.0°W

http://www.lyngsat.com/echo9ia13.html
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
wow its there hmm, thats big.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Yes, it's on a satellite. That doesn't mean it's available on Dish Network.
 
Posted by i-c-u on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
we wish..

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
hey, has anyone here noticed that the Q has gotten picked up by the Dish network?


no lie - I'm not happy though - it only proofs my theory - The share holders are not getting paid no matter how profitible Q is. (due to being a non reporting company) I'm still in and keeping my head up.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Yeah, it has been on regular satellite since before any cable operators picked it up, but this isn't the Dish Network.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
bummer.
 
Posted by i-c-u on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
Yes, it's on a satellite. That doesn't mean it's available on Dish Network.

correct me if I'm wrong but EchoStar 9/Intelsat 121.0°W

is dish
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Thats what i thought, well? IS IT OR IS IT NOT?
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Exactly.
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
Yeah, it has been on regular satellite since before any cable operators picked it up, but this isn't the Dish Network.


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
They use the satellite, along with other clients.

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
Yes, it's on a satellite. That doesn't mean it's available on Dish Network.

correct me if I'm wrong but EchoStar 9/Intelsat 121.0°W

is dish


 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
You are partially right... that info has been known since Q started broadcasting last year. Q is paying for the satellite (SP) broadcasting, using Echo Star equipment, BUT we ARE NOT being offered as a lineup on Dish Network - YET.

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
Yes, it's on a satellite. That doesn't mean it's available on Dish Network.

correct me if I'm wrong but EchoStar 9/Intelsat 121.0°W

is dish


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Thats what i thought, well? IS IT OR IS IT NOT?

imak
Good questions. Is this "new" news and something we should be happy about ... or is this just something that has been around awhile and means nothing?

Help ... anyone know for sure.

By the way, i-c-u, thanks for the info. [Smile]
 
Posted by i-c-u on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Thats what i thought, well? IS IT OR IS IT NOT?

imak
Good questions. Is this "new" news and something we should be happy about ... or is this just something that has been around awhile and means nothing?

Help ... anyone know for sure.

By the way, i-c-u, thanks for the info. [Smile]

welcome - working on the a couple of stars please.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Bottom,

This is OLD NEW - this info has been around since Nov 2004... rumors were started back then, that QTN was on Dish Network, which was not true (QTN was broadcasting using Echo Star Sattelite not Network) and QBID rose from .004 or up to .0091 and settled back down shortly afterwards

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Thats what i thought, well? IS IT OR IS IT NOT?

imak
Good questions. Is this "new" news and something we should be happy about ... or is this just something that has been around awhile and means nothing?

Help ... anyone know for sure.

By the way, i-c-u, thanks for the info. [Smile]


 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
can anyone who has level II tell me which market maker keeps putting in a huge offer and removing it. looks like someone's been doing this for the past couple of days.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottomfishing:
can anyone who has level II tell me which market maker keeps putting in a huge offer and removing it. looks like someone's been doing this for the past couple of days.

He's just trying to spark a fire in a rain storm. [Big Grin] ...ain't gonna happen.
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
Qbidn' im not trying to spark any fire. i've been in this stock just as long as the rest of you. i just dont post as much garbage as you do.

now, i have honestly seen the size of the offer change dramatically throughout the day (both increase and decrease in # of shares on the offer), and i have only seen this happen since yesterday. i also recall a couple of people make a similar point about MM's raising their offer. i believe MillerTime pointed that out. i just wanted to know which market maker was the one responsible for this. im not implying anything else jack
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
No, I meant the MM. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Now if you think I am posting garbage, then it must be something offensive to you. So whenever I do just let me know and I'll delete it. How's that? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
oh crap, my bad qbiddin'.
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
since people have been really getting testy and fighting with each other lately, it sounded like an attack. i apologize for being rude.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Just saying MM's build walls so beware.
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
It’s good to see a couple of people working out a misunderstanding like adults. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
looks like q's getting a new website...


easyCGI

the future home of

qtelevision.com


http://www.qtelevision.com/

i just typed in q tv in google and that's what exactly came up... the future home of qtelevision


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=q+tv
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
It seems to me like that easyCGI the future home of qtelevision.com is something left over from the past in the Google database as http://www.qtelevision.com/ is the present home of qtelevision.com.

It is best to refer to our company as QTN or Qtelevision instead of QTV. There are two entities called QTV that I know of: one is a GLBT newsmagazine based in San Francisco (http://www.qtvnews.tv/index.php?sc=3) and the other is a teleprompter company (http://www.qtv.com).
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Yawn in qbid pinky land. ZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzz
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
that is old news


quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
WHERE DID YOU SEE THAT. i-c-u

I didn't post the link because i thought it was old news however, I from:

LyngSat

EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 at 121.0°W

http://www.lyngsat.com/echo9ia13.html


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
they are on 61 110 119 and 121


90 percent of thier programming is on 110 and 119, 61 carries some of thier other language channels and 121 the lease thier space out and uplinks, such as what Q is beamed to. who knows maybe that is space that is leased out on that bird by the likes of Firestone for thier uplink services.

but believe me that is old old news

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by i-c-u:
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
Yes, it's on a satellite. That doesn't mean it's available on Dish Network.

correct me if I'm wrong but EchoStar 9/Intelsat 121.0°W

is dish


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
thats right. it was the last good run in this then it has been a constant slipe down from there.


that was the last of the proffit chances on this one. from then on if you managed to get a 10% gain on your money, you caught it at the extreme low and sold it the extreme high that you could have possibly day traded this at.


i had though about getting out then as i was almost close to even at .0090 i would have broke out only losing a coupld hundred. But i decided against it. as it looked good.

it took 3 days of huge gains but she dropped right back to where is started from on that 4th day.

but that was not as wild as the movement the day that we dropped from .0149 area to .005 and back again in about a 3 hour window. up till recently, that was our all time highest share volume day.

ok im rambling now i will stop lol

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Bottom,

This is OLD NEW - this info has been around since Nov 2004... rumors were started back then, that QTN was on Dish Network, which was not true (QTN was broadcasting using Echo Star Sattelite not Network) and QBID rose from .004 or up to .0091 and settled back down shortly afterwards

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Thats what i thought, well? IS IT OR IS IT NOT?

imak
Good questions. Is this "new" news and something we should be happy about ... or is this just something that has been around awhile and means nothing?

Help ... anyone know for sure.

By the way, i-c-u, thanks for the info. [Smile]



 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its actually refreshing.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
It’s good to see a couple of people working out a misunderstanding like adults. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
nothing fishy about this post at all, is there?

treasure
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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
heres an article that goes a little further then any article yet i have seen writen about Q.

check out the highlighted areas. what are they saying?


http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=664


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Q Television Network CEO and founder Frank Olsen is out after a major shakeup at the fledgling gay TV network.

In the wake of major financial and programming concerns, QTN, one of three LGBT cable networks, released a statement March 7 that its interim president, Lloyd Fan, would replace Olsen as CEO of QTN and its parent company Triangle Multi-Media Limited, effective immediately. According to the release, the entire board of directors of QTN and Triangle has resigned.

On Monday, March 13, Fan announced the closing of Triangle's former Palm Springs headquarters, which had been the home of the network's executive staff. Triangle's operations have now been consolidated at QTN's Burbank studio location.

Fan also announced that Carol Hinnant, formerly QTN vice president of sales and marketing, has been named company president.

"The QTN business model presents a multitude of possibilities, and I look forward to taking outgoing chairman Frank Olsen's vision to the next level," Fan, a corporate finance and patent expert and head of Taiwan-based Best Prop Holding Group, said in last week's statement. "I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships, and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high-quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community."

Olsen's departure and other changes come on the heels of last month's layoffs as the network ceased live programming for two weeks and some employees complained of non-payment. Limited production resumed shortly thereafter, at which time then-CEO Olsen promised that everyone would be paid within a month – a point that was re-emphasized in the March 7 release.

But according to a recent Washington Blade report, at least one employee said he and his production staff have yet to see the money owed them.

"The people that worked on my show have not been paid," Jack E. Jett, co-host of QTN's pop culture show Queer Edge told the Blade. "I haven't gotten a check in two months."

While Fan was not available for comment in anticipation of an official release over the next few weeks, QTN spokesman Jim Strzalkowski told the Bay Area Reporter that employees should receive payment soon.

"They are trying to get their records in order," he said. "They are feverishly working on forward movements and have every intention of paying everybody."

The B.A.R. reported last week that in addition to QTN's other financial troubles, Girlfriends , a lesbian magazine, plans to sue for nonpayment of advertising bills.

While Fan's promotion is expected to improve the station's financial viability, recent upheavals may have cost the network much in the way of programming. Now down to four live shows – QTN World News , On Topic, On Q Live, and The Reichen Show – whether QTN remains the official network of Gay Games VII, which will take place in Chicago this July, is currently up in the air.

"There are changes at Q Television that have prompted us to increase communication with Q Television to ensure a broadcast," Kevin Boyer, co-vice chair of the board of directors of Gay Games Chicago, told the B.A.R. "But we are also exploring other options for TV, radio, and Internet broadcast. The various changes and uncertainties at QTN mean we have to look at other options as possible alternatives. We could still end up with them, but there are enough uncertainties where we have to protect ourselves and ensure there will be a broadcast."

In December 2004, Gay Games Chicago announced a $3.2 million deal with QTN for network television, radio, and Internet broadcast rights to the event. The deal included $1.7 million in cash plus more than $1.5 million in advertising and programming benefits. The deal also called for QTN to unscramble its signal during the week of Gay Games.
 
Posted by U4TSAF2 on :
 
NO R/S WHILE I'M HERE.

BUYBACK THIS BUYBACK THAT. 350-BILLION SHARES.

WE HAVE 5 YEAR GUARANTEED FINANCING. 3 WEEKS LATER: WE SECURED 1ST YEAR BROADCAST.

WE'RE UPGRADING.

WE'RE THIS; WE'RE THAT.

WE GOT Q-MOBILES.

WE GOT 20 STUDIO'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE BOUGHT NETWORK TELEPORTS.

WE'VE BEEN SUED 3-TRILLION TIMES.

Q IS ON THE MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
woops drunk double post lol welcome mr parrot

when are you going to learn some new words.

im getting board of these ones.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
maybe its because every time i read one of your posts it looks like this


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ps

Bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla blalbla blablablablb blaBla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla blalbla blablablablb bla
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I think you missed a "bla" in the middle there PT.
And that third one really should be capitalized.
Maybe it's a Canadian thing [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cactus33 on :
 
whats goin on with this my uncl bought this at .0005

funny huh,

is this thing gonna go r split or just bankrupt.

seems to me this stock is so far down it cant go any lower
 
Posted by davidjanas on :
 
FRIDAY MORNING.. LETS HAVE A FRESH START WITH A NICE PR [Smile] )))))))
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
It seems to me like that easyCGI the future home of qtelevision.com is something left over from the past in the Google database as http://www.qtelevision.com/ is the present home of qtelevision.com.

It is best to refer to our company as QTN or Qtelevision instead of QTV. There are two entities called QTV that I know of: one is a GLBT newsmagazine based in San Francisco (http://www.qtvnews.tv/index.php?sc=3) and the other is a teleprompter company (http://www.qtv.com).

Sam..i type in q tv in google everytime i want to see the Q website and this is the first time that i have seen it come up like that.

something is up with the site..new management, new site?????

[ March 17, 2006, 06:39: Message edited by: Wangdo ]
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
NO R/S WHILE I'M HERE.

BUYBACK THIS BUYBACK THAT. 350-BILLION SHARES.

WE HAVE 5 YEAR GUARANTEED FINANCING. 3 WEEKS LATER: WE SECURED 1ST YEAR BROADCAST.

WE'RE UPGRADING.

WE'RE THIS; WE'RE THAT.

WE GOT Q-MOBILES.

WE GOT 20 STUDIO'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE BOUGHT NETWORK TELEPORTS.

WE'VE BEEN SUED 3-TRILLION TIMES.

Q IS ON THE MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U4 - hello, anyone home???

Frank's gone. You need to find another old mule to beat on. Maybe you and Frank can exchange email address's so you can continue on with your mindless dribble.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
An email response to me from Richard!

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:38 PM
To: Richard Brown
Subject: Reverse Split



Richard, Do you think Mr. Fan will perform a reverse spilt on our QBID shares? I hope he doesn't we have endured enough!



Thanks Richard


Richard,



I will pass along your concerns.



Richard Brown

Equity Relations, Inc.

617-314-7379

staff*equityrelations.com

www.equityrelations.com

Please visit our website for disclaimers and information
 
Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
It seems to me like that easyCGI the future home of qtelevision.com is something left over from the past in the Google database as http://www.qtelevision.com/ is the present home of qtelevision.com.

It is best to refer to our company as QTN or Qtelevision instead of QTV. There are two entities called QTV that I know of: one is a GLBT newsmagazine based in San Francisco (http://www.qtvnews.tv/index.php?sc=3) and the other is a teleprompter company (http://www.qtv.com).

Sam..i type in q tv in google everytime i want to see the Q website and this is the first time that i have seen it come up like that.

something is up with the site..new management, new site?????

You could be right; It's also possible that they ore moving or have moved old site to a new host. I never could get it to show me what you saw, so I just assumed that they were already set up with easyCGI, since when I clicked on your link I only saw things (URLs) for the present site.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Wango,

I think you are right. I got the same thing on Google. I checked out the easyCGI website and they have some nice portfolio samples. Maybe, we can finally get a snazzy website. The current and previous web designs have all sucked. We need something professional.

quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
It seems to me like that easyCGI the future home of qtelevision.com is something left over from the past in the Google database as http://www.qtelevision.com/ is the present home of qtelevision.com.

It is best to refer to our company as QTN or Qtelevision instead of QTV. There are two entities called QTV that I know of: one is a GLBT newsmagazine based in San Francisco (http://www.qtvnews.tv/index.php?sc=3) and the other is a teleprompter company (http://www.qtv.com).

Sam..i type in q tv in google everytime i want to see the Q website and this is the first time that i have seen it come up like that.

something is up with the site..new management, new site?????


 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
I just want to get out [Frown]

I put in a good til cancel order to sell this baby but because there is currently NO bid, looks like a wont be selling anytime soon


Has ANYONE been able to cancel?
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Not cancel, i mean selll.......
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
put in a market order and it will sell. you are putting in a limit order of .0001 it wont sell.


you will only get .00006 for it but you will get out.

later
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
How about some super low volume for today. What's up with that?

Good to see you back, David...have you visited the new CEO yet?

Milliam
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by davidjanas:
FRIDAY MORNING.. LETS HAVE A FRESH START WITH A NICE PR [Smile] )))))))

dj
Where ya been hiding? I've missed you (seriously).

Any plans to visit the new guy? We need some first-hand observations. [Smile]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
How about some super low volume for today. What's up with that?

Good to see you back, David...have you visited the new CEO yet?

Milliam

Yep . . . only 250 million in 3 hours of trading? I know the "possibilities", but I'd really rather know the "probabilities". Anyone care to share their thoughts? [Smile]
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Maybe Frankie the Fraudster has finally told every last share of QBID he has [Big Grin] I dunno, pretty odd.

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
How about some super low volume for today. What's up with that?

Good to see you back, David...have you visited the new CEO yet?

Milliam

Yep . . . only 250 million in 3 hours of trading? I know the "possibilities", but I'd really rather know the "probabilities". Anyone care to share their thoughts? [Smile]

 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Mill,

Don't give DJ any ideas... he is liable to get shot by Lloyd's Chinese Mafia gurrus if he shows up at the studios unannoucned. lol! We wouldn't want that to happen to DJ now would we?

quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
How about some super low volume for today. What's up with that?

Good to see you back, David...have you visited the new CEO yet?

Milliam


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dew-it:
Maybe Frankie the Fraudster has finally told every last share of QBID he has [Big Grin] I dunno, pretty odd.

Yep ... I've hit the point where ANY change in daily routine gives me hope. [Smile]
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
DJ Go see what you can find out for us!!!

Be careful!!
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam1959:
It’s good to see a couple of people working out a misunderstanding like adults. [Big Grin]

I know you are right Sam, but where is the fun in that? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by akalooker on :
 
Hey Guys found this on Yahoo Finance, it's about the sale of Dreamworks Film Library by Viacom to a George Soros lead investment group.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060317/viacom_dreamworks_library.html?.v=3

I know it's not specifically about QTN, but it beckons the question.

If Dreamworks film library, which has some of the most successful films in recent history is only worth 900 million, is it really possible for QTN's film library to be worth 707 million to 1 Billion as stated by Frank and some others?

Could we really have an asset that is that large, combined with NTI, the studios, and whatever else we supposedly own, and still only have a stock PPS or valuation of .0001 or less?

Is our film library significantly larger, or does it contain extremely successful films that support the claimed $700+ Million - $1 Billion value?

If we had an asset worth this amount of money, why wouldn't have Frank leveraged this asset and had operating capital for years without any worries?

Is it possible that we don't really own a film library, NTI, the Burbank Studios or anything else Frank claimed to have purchased.

How could we own all of this and we be where we are today. I remember reading a PR some time ago that stated that something like $350 or so million was being added to the value of QTN/QBID.

The tone of my post may sound negative, but I'm not trying to be negative, just thinking out loud and hoping some of you more experienced traders/investors might have some insight or opinions that you don't mind sharing, it would really be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

akalooker
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
We probably have yet to find out how much BS is Frank. IMO
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I wouldn't count too much on the film library yet. We might own a ton of assets, or we might own nothing.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akalooker:
Hey Guys found this on Yahoo Finance, it's about the sale of Dreamworks Film Library by Viacom to a George Soros lead investment group.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060317/viacom_dreamworks_library.html?.v=3

I know it's not specifically about QTN, but it beckons the question.

If Dreamworks film library, which has some of the most successful films in recent history is only worth 900 million, is it really possible for QTN's film library to be worth 707 million to 1 Billion as stated by Frank and some others?

Could we really have an asset that is that large, combined with NTI, the studios, and whatever else we supposedly own, and still only have a stock PPS or valuation of .0001 or less?

Is our film library significantly larger, or does it contain extremely successful films that support the claimed $700+ Million - $1 Billion value?

If we had an asset worth this amount of money, why wouldn't have Frank leveraged this asset and had operating capital for years without any worries?

Is it possible that we don't really own a film library, NTI, the Burbank Studios or anything else Frank claimed to have purchased.

How could we own all of this and we be where we are today. I remember reading a PR some time ago that stated that something like $350 or so million was being added to the value of QTN/QBID.

The tone of my post may sound negative, but I'm not trying to be negative, just thinking out loud and hoping some of you more experienced traders/investors might have some insight or opinions that you don't mind sharing, it would really be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

akalooker

No I don't think your being negative, just concerned and curious as the rest of us.

But your "mind strain" is killer!...relax! [Big Grin]

The why's, what's, when's and how's will all be answered if you'll just be patient and wait this out. It's all you can do. In fact, it's all anyone can do.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
QBIDn, that is why I am more worried about Bankruptcy than anything else. Even if they r/s it, sell it out from under us, whatever, I WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS! LOL
 
Posted by mikensay on :
 
It's not so much of what the company owns as much of how leveraged the company is. It's quite possible that Frank bought the film library for whatever it's worth and also owes that much for it, thus already leveraged to the hilt...
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akalooker:
... is it really possible for QTN's film library to be worth 707 million to 1 Billion as stated by Frank and some others?

... If we had an asset worth this amount of money, why wouldn't have Frank leveraged this asset and had operating capital for years without any worries?

... The tone of my post may sound negative, but I'm not trying to be negative, just thinking out loud and hoping some of you more experienced traders/investors might have some insight or opinions that you don't mind sharing, it would really be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

akalooker
First, I don't think your post sounds negative at all. You've asked some very good questions ... and most of us have similar questions. Although I don't have the answers, here are my thoughts:

It's "possible" that the Q library is valued at $700+ million, depending on what it contains ... how rare the films are, etc. But I really don't think it's "probable". I've never believed Frank's valuations of Q assets, and now I have some concerns about true "ownership" of those assets.

I also don't want to sound negative, but at this point we just don't know what is true about Q. Hopefully, Mr. Fan will provide both answers and actions very soon ... and hopefully too, we will be happier than we have been with Frank running the show.

I want to add one more thing that may not make me very popular ... but I think it should be said:

Until we really know what Frank did when he was in charge of Q, let's just let him rest. My opinion right now is that he had an honest dream and tried to make it happen ... but failed for many reasons. I don't want to assume any intentional dishonesty at this point. I'm not defending him. I'm just suggesting that we wait for the "trial" before we hang him. I feel the need to say this only because I've always liked rebels with a dream---men of vision who went against mainstream America to realize their dreams. And I'd like to maintain that feeling about Frank. Even if I'm proven wrong, I think it's the fair thing to do at this time.

And if the "trial" finds him guilty, I'll congratuate him for his vision ... just before I tie the noose around his neck. [Smile]
 
Posted by Deg's wife on :
 
BL....I always thought while reading your posts, you are a man of good words and can structure a sentence/paragraph well. But after reading your 'pre-trial'.....it is the first time your words became a virtual vision [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
BL....I always thought while reading your posts, you are a man of good words and can structure a sentence/paragraph well. But after reading your 'pre-trial'.....it is the first time your words became a virtual vision [Big Grin]

Robin
[Wink]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
At least you aren't saying there will definitely be one, like you usually do. You're improving. [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by davidjanas:
FRIDAY MORNING.. LETS HAVE A FRESH START WITH A NICE PR [Smile] )))))))


 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
FWIW... there has been no substantial AH activity for the last 12 trading days.
 
Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Well back from holiday's from Florida and doing some catching up. I see U4 has gone into desperation mode and now putting on things that where never said. LOL! Soon as I got to his post, the dam thing showed up as brail on my monitor. Pretty deperate for some one to listen by the looks of it, even the visually impaired.

Does anyone happen to have Carol's email by chance?


quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
maybe its because every time i read one of your posts it looks like this


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ps

Bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla blalbla blablablablb blaBla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla blalbla blablablablb bla


 
Posted by SingleDad703 on :
 
DJanas go and climb in the dumpster of Q. Let us know what you find. I'll pay for the glue-sticks and poster board.
Maybe we should set up a paypal account and all pitch in and pay for it together. (does anyone remember that, or have I been here too long)

The last comment was not directed at DJ, he was not that person.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
QBIDn, that is why I am more worried about Bankruptcy than anything else. Even if they r/s it, sell it out from under us, whatever, I WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS! LOL

First off, we need to know ownership status. Because as far as bankruptcy goes, Fan’s shares or the majority, and how much money he invested, will determine if he can or can't file. Remember, normally debts must exceed assets.

Here's something equivalent to an “Indian burn”, remember them?…ouch! Anyway, I read that creditors "can" file bankruptcy for QTN/TMM. That’s right, if the debt exceeds the assets, QTN/TMM can be forced into involuntary bankruptcy, “but again”, that’s going to depend on how much money Fan invests into QTN/TMM.

This is why I keep saying we need to just calm down and wait this thing out. Seriously, there have been some very damaging events and legal issues that will take Fan a long time to resolve.

Secondly, if it was a Chapter 7, I would like to think that Hinnant did not stick around just to help liquidate. With Ch.7 Hinnant “does not” benefit. From her “prior” position, I’m sure she would have moved on with her carrier rather than perform the duties for which Frank would have been responsible for.

Lastly, as far as Chapter 11, 12 and 13 goes, I would like to think that before Fan came along, we were not in “big debt” but rather lacking revenue and under incompetent management. And that now, Fan is investing a great deal of money. And if that’s the case, remember normally debts must exceed assets in order to file. So once again, depending on Fan’s investment, there may never be a need for “reorganization”.

Then again, worst case scenario, he buys just to file and start from scratch (suicide), and we all get fk’d!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I know what you are talking about SD.

I remember that fiascle. Lol

I may have a different slant on this then most. I feel bad for the guy. He went and did what he said he would do, everyone didn't like what they got back for info and then ragged on the guy.

Same what happened to Doc and Imak when they went out of their way to try and get us some info.

But I don't want to open this one again


And off topic

Welcome back Buckwheat. Ill see you on Monday

Rod
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Here's what I see for the day is this accurate. Volume was really low

Rod


TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC
Symbol: QBID
Exchange: OTO
Last Trade: Mar 17, 2006 15:56 EST
Current: 0.0001
Chg: EVEN
%Chg: 0.00%
Vol: 434,446,247
Day H: 0.0001
Day L: 0.0001
 
Posted by behind the Q ball on :
 
If Fan just doesnt print any more shares than even though there are a lot out there now , there would be a definite number to work with and investors can make a reasonable decision on the companys worth. which I feel is approx. .005
 
Posted by behind the Q ball on :
 
Once an announcement is made, and this stock starts its climb, momentum alone should bring it over a penny
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Here's what I see for the day is this accurate. Volume was really low

Rod


TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC
Symbol: QBID
Exchange: OTO
Last Trade: Mar 17, 2006 15:56 EST
Current: 0.0001
Chg: EVEN
%Chg: 0.00%
Vol: 434,446,247
Day H: 0.0001
Day L: 0.0001

rod--here's my totals

438,446,247 shares traded for $44k in 138 transactions.

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=qbid
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
Wow, IHub sucks. They put me in the jailhouse. ahahaha
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
thanks for verifying for me.

ROd


quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Here's what I see for the day is this accurate. Volume was really low

Rod


TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC
Symbol: QBID
Exchange: OTO
Last Trade: Mar 17, 2006 15:56 EST
Current: 0.0001
Chg: EVEN
%Chg: 0.00%
Vol: 434,446,247
Day H: 0.0001
Day L: 0.0001

rod--here's my totals

438,446,247 shares traded for $44k in 138 transactions.

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=qbid


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
what did you do? sat something positive about skunksyard?

they really are treating her bad over there.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Wow, IHub sucks. They put me in the jailhouse. ahahaha


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yip i remember.
can i borrow ten bux for a new zillion-dollar camera? LOL [Wink]

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by SingleDad703:
DJanas go and climb in the dumpster of Q. Let us know what you find. I'll pay for the glue-sticks and poster board.
Maybe we should set up a paypal account and all pitch in and pay for it together. (does anyone remember that, or have I been here too long)

The last comment was not directed at DJ, he was not that person.


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yip i remember. can i borrow ten bux for a new zillion-dollar camera? LOL [Wink] ~BB

Welcome back, bb. I assume you've been lurking for awhile? [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah BL been lurking. barely keeping up with this thread, just hasnt been worth the recent payday.
i still think that BKMP will run again so im holding there.

oh and my whole apartment building burned down, so ive got my hands full. i got out, im salvaging what i can.
blah blah im over it and moving on, new home on monday.

not really what you expected to read, huh?

life sure throws its curve balls. touche!

happy st paddy's everybody! [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
WOW that sucks where you home at the time?

that must have been terrible. I cant even imagine the impact that would have on your life.

pictures memoirs non replaceable memories.

sorry to hear that Paula.

good luck with the new place and settling in. it will be weird for a while im sure.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah BL been lurking. barely keeping up with this thread, just hasnt been worth the recent payday.
i still think that BKMP will run again so im holding there.

oh and my whole apartment building burned down, so ive got my hands full. i got out, im salvaging what i can.
blah blah im over it and moving on, new home on monday.

not really what you expected to read, huh?

life sure throws its curve balls. touche!

happy st paddy's everybody! [Smile]

~BB


 
Posted by firefly on :
 
wow bb sorry sweety. best wishes. most heart felt wishes to you.
 
Posted by akalooker on :
 
betting babe,

I don't post much so you may not know me, but I've been here for almost 2 years now watching our QBID.

I'm really sorry to hear about the fire and the hardship it may have caused you.

Having read your posts since almost the begining, I know you have a strong positive spirit, and in the end you will be Ok.

You are a fighter, a suvivor, a Phoenix that will rise up out of the ashes and live to fight another day!

Keeping you in our prayers that life will get back to some assemblence of normalcy soon.

Terry
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
I nothing else it is a big moon and chilly in ATL. going for a nice walk. Take care all [Smile] peace [Smile]
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey Fly, stuck in S-ville again LOL
Have a good weekend!!
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey BB, I don't know you very well, I think you were backing off of this one about when I found the board.
I just wanted to say, I have been where you are and while it sucks, it does get better. It definitely forces you to look at what counts.

Good luck on the new start!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Looker: i like that one! A Phoenix! i'm headed to work in Tucson next week, so it fits [Wink]

Thanks everybody for your spirit and support.
It's a tough thing to face, but one thing i realize is...
everything is replaceable in the end and there is no end unless you call it 'the end'.

i have a gorgeous new place
(jersey city waterfront anybody?)
http://www.ppweb.net/avalon/index.html
with a view of the empire state building from my apartment, a pool that my terrace overlooks, indoor raquetball and basketball courts... you get the picture!
who knew there was quality of life across the river?! it is much more peaceful.

so this 15-year manhattanite is movin our & movin on.

time to make lemonade outta the lemons! [Big Grin]

nice to see y'all still around.
ill be back as soon as i repair my smoke-gunked pc!

smiles!
~BB

[ March 18, 2006, 09:25: Message edited by: betting babe ]
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
what did you do? sat something positive about skunksyard?

they really are treating her bad over there.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Wow, IHub sucks. They put me in the jailhouse. ahahaha


No, I guess I guessed right when I posted what I thought was her address. That's really hilarious. Next time I'm in Boston, I may stop by for some tea...ahaha
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
just got home from an ATV poker run. I won 3rd place with a straight. i was in second but someone pulled a flush at the end.

all in all it was a great day. we did about 40 miles today.

Rod
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
Did anyone notice that the schedule (top right of the QTN page) only says "Full Schedule" rather than list three shows for the current day...
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Just checked, the schedule is back up!!!!
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
WOW- because of no news, this thread has turned into common jibber- jabber...


Lets hope this thing moves a little this week. I just want to get out at .0001 FINALLY and write this stocks off as a lesson learned.

Wish i would have done a little more research
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
WOW- because of no news, this thread has turned into common jibber- jabber...


Lets hope this thing moves a little this week. I just want to get out at .0001 FINALLY and write this stocks off as a lesson learned.

Wish i would have done a little more research

At .0001? ...whats the hurry in losing your money?

May as well wait it out. Just don't get caught up in the hype anymore. Just do yourself a favor and hold. Don't buy into "any" fluff news. Don't buy another share until there is openness and transparency. jmo

Again, this is a great product with plenty potential to make us all money. And I myself will continue to believe that, but first we need transparency.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i feel transparancy may be a reality that we will see or at least have a better chance of seeing with out frank behind the wheel.

this comming week feels good to me. I have nothing to base my feelings on. i just have that gut feeling that something is abbout to change.

Rod
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
But is frank gone? Where is the paper work? still no filings? Richard is gone as far as i can tell will see.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
But is frank gone? Where is the paper work? still no filings? Richard is gone as far as i can tell will see.

imak
Why do you think Richard (Brown?) is gone?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Yes fill us in if you know something.
 
Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Betting Babe

Sorry to hear about the apartment, but the new one looks really nice.
I am getting, if you wanna call it split from the Mrs, and that leads to d___e, i can't even say it.
Anyhow, right now really sucks and everything seems really weird for me. I guess time heals:)
Have fun at the new place, and enjoy it.

Dave
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
But is frank gone? Where is the paper work? still no filings? Richard is gone as far as i can tell will see.

Investor Information
3/13/2006 - CEO UPDATE

Letter from the CEO of TMM/QTN



March 13, 2006



To Our Shareholders:





I am pleased to announce that many important changes are beginning to take shape both within our holding company of Triangle Multimedia and our wholly owned subsidiary, QTelevision Network. I will be assigning seats for our board of directors and personally will be interviewing qualified individuals for our executive team. We will be diligent in our search and will not set a specific time frame as to the completion of these important matters because our mission is to seat qualified people within the media, financial and operational fields very carefully. We feel our company is positioned to prosper in the GLBT marketplace and making these changes is the first step.



Our ultimate goal is to become a publicly traded company that holds both the respect of our shareholder base and the financial marketplace in whole. We fully understand the need to supply our current and future investors with the proper resources to make intelligent investment decisions concerning our security. We are working hard to become transparent, thus enabling the investment community to track our growth. These tasks are not without their difficulties, and we intend to keep our shareholder base involved and up to date with any specific changes that will directly affect our security. We feel strongly in our attempt to successfully compete within our market sector and in turn add much needed value to our stock.



Our existing team of employees has endured quite a bit and I must applaud the resilience our staff has shown. They believe, as I do, that this company has a bright future and with hard work, honesty and the loyal support of our investor base, we can continue to be a company we are proud of.



I will be supplying our investor relations team with information shortly and any questions that can publicly be answered will be done through Richard Brown.



We appreciate your continued patience and confidence.



Sincerely,



Lloyd Fan

----
Imak, it looks like Richard's still here; at least from that letter. But, who knows.
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
ahahahahhaha

Posted by: mjm2005
In reply to: IH Admin [Matt] who wrote msg# 77933
Date:3/19/2006 11:44:51 PM
Post #of 77940

Matt,

There's no way that you're turning 63 in June. And, I'm kind of enjoying this Jailhouse thing. I hold dear our light banter and recollection of personal anecdotes. It's also beneficial that I only have one person to talk to, as I don't even have to think about (even for a split second) who I'm going to message.

Best regards,

Mike
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
that is not proof that Fan exists and Frank is out.

no one has seen the man, talked to the man, heard from the man.

he has been around long enough that someone should be able to snap a picture of the guy at the studio. after all that is the center of the operations, and you would think that is where he would meet with Carol Hinnant.


i have to admit, i dont trust Frank enough to rule out that this could be a gimmick by Frank to get everyone off his back.

now it is obvious by the quality of the writing of the last couple prs, and the investor page info, that it is not Frank writing them, but that is not a hard thing to fake.

i would feel much better actually seeing this guys picture on one of the news wires stating that they own QBID.


but i have to accept this as being true, blindly. lol

im not down on the stock,,, I'm just thinking that we cant prove this info to be true right now.

i would like to at the very minumum the state of washington records reflect the new magority owner and board of directors

im am still holding though and will weather the storm.

Rod
 
Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
Qbid is good
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by redgurl19:
Qbid is good

red
Why? Not disagreeing, just curious why you think so.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
What just happened to a post by Ligge?
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
what did you do? sat something positive about skunksyard?

they really are treating her bad over there.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Wow, IHub sucks. They put me in the jailhouse. ahahaha


No, I guess I guessed right when I posted what I thought was her address. That's really hilarious. Next time I'm in Boston, I may stop by for some tea...ahaha
Why would you post someone's home address on an internet chat room?
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
PT, Thats all im saying show me some filings with FANS name on them.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
As for richard guy just seemed to vanish. try an get in touch with him. i sure cant.
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
What just happened to a post by Ligge?

I posted something to be of help to a fellow board member that was off topic. Guess I have been blacklisted since all other types of off topic posts stink this place up worse than a summer day spent as Franks butt crack.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I think all the posts about legal stuff got booted.
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
what did you do? sat something positive about skunksyard?

they really are treating her bad over there.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Wow, IHub sucks. They put me in the jailhouse. ahahaha


No, I guess I guessed right when I posted what I thought was her address. That's really hilarious. Next time I'm in Boston, I may stop by for some tea...ahaha
Why would you post someone's home address on an internet chat room?
Ok, look-->

1) I'm guessing you know about Skunks from IHub, right?
2) She lists her town as being from "Boston"
3) A poster came on AllStocks the other day and made a post--> The username was "Anne Burns" and listed a location as Allston, MA.
4) I thought that was interesting, and wanted to see where Allston was. I Google Localed it and it turned out to be not more than ten minutes away from Boston.
5) I then figured, "Hmmm, what the hell, let me search those two pieces of information on WhitePages.com"
6) Well, it turns out there was an Anne Burns on WhitePages.com who lived in Allston, MA. So, I thought that was interesting and decided to share with everyone---since there's been a lack of QBID information for a while now.

---The reason I was so interested in the post by "Anne Burns" was because it was a skunks post (that hagatha pointed out)... So is it Skunks? or just someone copying Skunks' work?
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
dj-whats going down at Q?
Honestly I have to admit that I can't believe that you didn't go out to Q recently to take a look at whats going on, get a telephoto pic of the new ceo or antything to that effect. Did you just sell and move on?
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a bit inappropriate. Then again, everything about this stock is just about inappropriate.

So what do i know? And NO, MJ, please dont get curious and start trying to post my home address! [Smile] Have a good day all. At 11:15 am, looks like its going to be another day, or should i say, another week of SSDD.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
If this new deal is just some new gimmick that Frank is up to, that would be absurd. Except to be able to sell a few billion more shares for nothing, what would he gain. A sinngle shot to the back of the head would work, but he's only kidding hisself if the new financing were'nt there. Besides the whole thing seeming absurdly fraudulent. Just how much bull**** are investors supposed to put up with in PR's anyway?
I'm blowing off steam on my opinion about Frank being behind the latest news. Not saying he is. May he drop dead if it's so. I never said he had to be healthy anyway. [Wink]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
fyi...warren buffett (berkshire) bought 'business wire'.


QBID business as usual...

the 'officially' announced, but STILL officially UNDOCUMENTED, UNVERIFIED installed (by whom not yet known) puppet regime of this PUBLICLY OWNED (by shareholders~US) 'holding company' headed by the enigmatic mr. fan, has as yet undisclosed the status of some very important items.

wonder why disney didn't handle the steve jobs/pixar thing like our guy....
"Lloyd Fan and his partners", "...said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision"

with "his successes include renowned companies like Sharper Image, Brookstone, Restoration Hardware, IKEA, Targets Stores, Wal-Mart, JC Penny, Coleman, LL Bean, QVC and many more."

...nearest i can figure is product placement and merchandising. (?)(?)


"Coming from a manufacturing and engineering background"

...manufacturing and engineering~~what?
what degrees, meritorious awards, specific corporate achievements has mr. fan accomplished?


"the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan"

...what resources would they be?

http://www.qtelevision.com/site/press.asp?ID=3756


some (not all) important issues yet to be disclosed. status of:

LBS
NTI
joseph pittera
Gulf State Holdings
Access TradeOne.com
franklin broadcasting
franklyn broadcasting
any other UNREPORTED dba entities....

bod, and that pesky share structure.......

studios, carriers, staff, talent, broadcasting shows....
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
fyi...warren buffett (berkshire) bought 'business wire'.


QBID business as usual...

the 'officially' announced, but STILL officially UNDOCUMENTED, UNVERIFIED installed (by whom not yet known) puppet regime of this PUBLICLY OWNED (by shareholders~US) 'holding company' headed by the enigmatic mr. fan, has as yet undisclosed the status of some very important items.

wonder why disney didn't handle the steve jobs/pixar thing like our guy....
"Lloyd Fan and his partners", "...said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision"

with "his successes include renowned companies like Sharper Image, Brookstone, Restoration Hardware, IKEA, Targets Stores, Wal-Mart, JC Penny, Coleman, LL Bean, QVC and many more."

...nearest i can figure is product placement and merchandising. (?)(?)


"Coming from a manufacturing and engineering background"

...manufacturing and engineering~~what?
what degrees, meritorious awards, specific corporate achievements has mr. fan accomplished?


"the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan"

...what resources would they be?

http://www.qtelevision.com/site/press.asp?ID=3756


some (not all) important issues yet to be disclosed. status of:

LBS
NTI
joseph pittera
Gulf State Holdings
Access TradeOne.com
franklin broadcasting
franklyn broadcasting
any other UNREPORTED dba entities....

bod, and that pesky share structure.......

studios, carriers, staff, talent, broadcasting shows....

Excellent post KC. Thank you.

From time to time it should be reposted for new investors to review until transparency.
 
Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Ligge
Not sure if that was for me, but I shouldn't have posted what I did. I am kind of surprised my post got booted out since I do see others posted that have nothing to do with the Q.
I thought I asked a simple question, well I guess whatever.

Dave
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Does anyone show anything selling on L2's??/


Going on 5 days now.....
 
Posted by akalooker on :
 
Is it true,

Yahoo shows we hit .0002, did we bounce and I missed it.

Did anyone's sell orders go through, or was this just a glitch!

Did anyone else see this, does it show up on the L2's.

If we hit .0002 could this be a sign that things might be turning around, or are we just being sucked in a little deeper.

Any thoughts guys?

akalooker
 
Posted by JimS on :
 
I see an .0002 at 9:33 this morning. It also went below .0001 at 13:06 (times approx). That is better than it has been because Friday it went below .0001 a number of times. Optomistic on Q in the long term
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Is today's volume half a bill so far? seems we are slowing down on volume.
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akalooker:
Is it true,

Yahoo shows we hit .0002, did we bounce and I missed it.

Did anyone's sell orders go through, or was this just a glitch!

Did anyone else see this, does it show up on the L2's.

It's true. It stayed at .0002 for for a half second.

If we hit .0002 could this be a sign that things might be turning around, or are we just being sucked in a little deeper.

Any thoughts guys?

akalooker

True
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
KC...how many trades went through today??

TIA
 
Posted by mcspeechless1 on :
 
584,518,776 volume
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
volume was 666,013,526.. i want to know how many trades went through
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
and so having your own website, and saying the city you live in... uh, oh. ok. woops then.

guess that's why i live in a gated community? [Big Grin]

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a bit inappropriate. Then again, everything about this stock is just about inappropriate.

So what do i know? And NO, MJ, please dont get curious and start trying to post my home address! [Smile] Have a good day all. At 11:15 am, looks like its going to be another day, or should i say, another week of SSDD.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
volume was 666,013,526.. i want to know how many trades went through

ok, i'll say it--

maybe fittingly...sign of 'the beast' volume

666,013,526 shares traded

for $60k in 192k transactions....

last trade 15:58:18.....0.0001 - 300,000
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
and so having your own website, and saying the city you live in... uh, oh. ok. woops then.

guess that's why i live in a gated community? [Big Grin]

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a bit inappropriate. Then again, everything about this stock is just about inappropriate.

So what do i know? And NO, MJ, please dont get curious and start trying to post my home address! [Smile] Have a good day all. At 11:15 am, looks like its going to be another day, or should i say, another week of SSDD.

[Big Grin]
Hey, i dont have my own website!
 
Posted by noah129 on :
 
howdy qbidians and qbidiots.

just wanted to pop on in and give a hey ya'll to all those still waiting patiently. good luck to you all in your investments and may you be filled with the patience to see if this pans out for us.

40 million long and strong.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
howdy qbidians and qbidiots.

just wanted to pop on in and give a hey ya'll to all those still waiting patiently. good luck to you all in your investments and may you be filled with the patience to see if this pans out for us.

40 million long and strong.

Hi, noah. I am beginning to think you are Count Dracula. You only show up around dark lately. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mjm2005 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a bit inappropriate. Then again, everything about this stock is just about inappropriate.

So what do i know? And NO, MJ, please dont get curious and start trying to post my home address! [Smile] Have a good day all. At 11:15 am, looks like its going to be another day, or should i say, another week of SSDD.

Yeah, I just thought it was interesting. If you look at the satellite image of her house, it's clear that there is no way she put $200,000+ into this company. Also, city data for Allston as well as real estate information goes along with the findings from the satellite images.
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
I live in france and my neighbor wears syspenders LOLOL
 
Posted by RNINALVNG on :
 
Hello, Bung Dingler...LOL!!

Hope all is well, Sam...as well as Rod, Suz, BL, etc....life ain't easy...lol...had to go back to work "for the man"...POS Frank...lol.

Wish everyone the best...take care.
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi Terry, I think Mr. Bung may have found Beavus.
as beavus would say "uhhh that sucks hu hu uh ,,hey that hurt dumass" then buthead would smack him.

Hope all is well with the job. [Smile]
Take care Terry,
Sam
 
Posted by RNINALVNG on :
 
Nite, Sam....no, it sucks...lol.

Peace out...

me.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
job? JOB!? [Eek!]
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Does this company have ANYTHING to talk about??? This thread seems to just be filled with worthless junk the last few days.


QBID... where are you..................
 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
and so having your own website, and saying the city you live in... uh, oh. ok. woops then.

guess that's why i live in a gated community? [Big Grin]

~BB


Leave betting babe alone. If she is Paual P, then she is a public person so to speak. My wife has a website http://www.russianwomenmagazine.com and was a TV reporter, so you have to be exposed sometimes. It isn't all tha bad.

I like every thing I read and saw on BB website until she mention moveon.org and did her president bashing.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I hope we still have our deal with Verizon. They sound like they are setting up a great FiOS TV service.

They landed CBS!!


http://www.wallst.net/news/news.asp?Source=APNEWS&id=18156
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
QTN schedule gone again!!!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i dont think it is anything to worry about.

they have had a major downsizing in staff, im sure they are shorthanded on the IT dept as well.

those schedules are usually a script, and sometimes they need to be reset, after a server maintenance, or a DOS attack. I dont think it is anything to really worry about.

I would be more concerned if the site disappeared and stated that it was no longer available.

JMHO

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
QTN schedule gone again!!!


 
Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Screen cleaner...

http://www.25-88.com/clean_your_monitor/brush.swf

Sorry if I offended anyone...
 
Posted by Alek2 on :
 
Very nice cleaner!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Here's what I see for the day is this accurate. Volume was really low

Rod


TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC
Symbol: QBID
Exchange: OTO
Last Trade: Mar 17, 2006 15:56 EST
Current: 0.0001
Chg: EVEN
%Chg: 0.00%
Vol: 434,446,247
Day H: 0.0001
Day L: 0.0001
 
Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
For last Friday?
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
La La La- still have my open order.


Does anyone show ANY sells on L2's???
 
Posted by hagatha on :
 
The reason I brought up that it might be skunks is that some posters (last year I think) were calling her "Anne" and saying she was Frank's cousin. IMO It was ok for you to do what you did. It is public info anyway. Anyone could have looked it up. Posting it on a message board is irrelevant.

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
If you use your real name and list the city and state you live in, you might as well be putting up your address. Not that everyone else should go posting it, though.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a bit inappropriate. Then again, everything about this stock is just about inappropriate.

So what do i know? And NO, MJ, please dont get curious and start trying to post my home address! [Smile] Have a good day all. At 11:15 am, looks like its going to be another day, or should i say, another week of SSDD.

Yeah, I just thought it was interesting. If you look at the satellite image of her house, it's clear that there is no way she put $200,000+ into this company. Also, city data for Allston as well as real estate information goes along with the findings from the satellite images.

 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
As of today, 03/21/06: No new amendments.


WA SOS (360) 753-7115 (OPTION 5)

TMM UBI 601 047 757
5/08/51 DATE OF INCORPORATION
8/24/04 AMENDMENT A/S + TO 50B
7/25/05 LICENSE RENEWED (DUE 5/31/05)
11/07/05 AMENDMENT A/S + TO 60B
12/19/05 AMENDMENT A/S + TO 100B
02/07/06 AMENDMENT A/S + TO 350B

FRANK OLSEN, PRES/CHAIRMAN OF BOARD
RENE SCHENK, SEC/TRES


QTN UBI 602 391 767 REINSTATED 9/8/05

QTN CORP STATUS:
5/03/04 --DATE OF INCORPORATION A/S 75K
6/1/04 TO 5/31/05 --ACTIVE
6/1/05 TO 8/31/05 --INACTIVE
9/1/05 TO 9/07/05 --DISSOLVED
9/08/05 --REINSTATED
9/8/05 TO PRESENT --ACTIVE

FRANK OLSEN, PRES/CHAIRMAN OF BOARD
JOSEPH MORALES, VICE PRES
MARIAN SHERMAN, DIRECTOR
RENE SCHENK, SEC/DIRECTOR
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Trade just went through at .0002 ... but was probably a bit lower (.00015+). For 950,000 shares.

Interesting ... but what's it really mean? [Confused]
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
La La La- still have my open order.


Does anyone show ANY sells on L2's???

K2-Did you honestly just buy in last week and expect to flip in a day??? Im not sure by the tone of your message...but you gotta know this sucker has been knee deep in turd for the past 6 months...4 of which have it trading at .0001. What exactly are you expecting right now?
 
Posted by HitMe101 on :
 
I'm personally waiting on a reverse split before buying anymore.GL everyone.
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Trade just went through at .0002 ... but was probably a bit lower (.00015+). For 950,000 shares.

Interesting ... but what's it really mean? [Confused]

Newbie ??
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
At this point, who knows??

Not many choices, are there?


Hitme101, I'm personally waiting for Mr. Fan to buy and buy and retire and retire shares!

Then we would see his picture--everywhere!!!
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
and we wait............


Just wanted to say hey to everybody! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Hey Hey HOSS.
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
How goes it today?
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
any guess from anyone when or if this thing might start moving?
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Not to bad your self?
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey Buzzy, we think this will move, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on it. [Big Grin]

Monkey, I am learning a new world that I like a whole lot better... forex [Big Grin]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
anybody else see no trades for 29 minutes, then 1m for under .0001 ??

14:28:02 0.0001 - 999,999
14:57:18 0.00 -0.0001 1,000,000

then no trades again....
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
anybody else see no trades for 29 minutes, then 1m for under .0001 ??

14:28:02 0.0001 - 999,999
14:57:18 0.00 -0.0001 1,000,000

then no trades again....

yeah KC..far and few between

strange things happening, stranger things still to come?????
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
none til 3:22...

15:22:03 0.00 -0.0001 5,000,000
15:24:11 0.0001 - 1,210,000

[ March 21, 2006, 15:55: Message edited by: King Crimson ]
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
wel, i think it will move myself, thats why i bought. Does anyone have any idea when something good is coming up for this one?
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
In "the coming weeks."

quote:
Originally posted by buzzygresham:
wel, i think it will move myself, thats why i bought. Does anyone have any idea when something good is coming up for this one?


 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
QBID Last: 0.00 Change: UNCH UNCH Volume: 680,216,512 3:58pm 3/21/2006

After Hours: 0.00 0.00 0.00% 80,100,000 4:02pm 3/21/2006

http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=qbid&vc=&siteid=mktw&dist=dropmenu


fwiw, VACM (valcom) volume has dried up...only 2 trades all day....

14:31:20 Q 0.125 - 10,000
14:53:15 Q 0.125 - 5,000
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
HOSS, WE GOT TO TALK.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
looks like this is where it settled out at today...

700,716,828 shares for $69k in 176k trades
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Well, to all new investors here and/or lurking interested in investing in TMM, let me make this as simply as I possibly can, in order for this company to be successful and earn you plenty of money, it will take "absolute" conjuration, sorcery, miracle, sortilege, thaumaturgy, theurgy, witchcraft, witchery, witching, wizardry, astonishment, marvel, phenomenon, prodigy, sensation, stunner, wonderment...magic!

That's all! [Big Grin]

So if you got time, come on in and sit a spell. It's gonna be a while.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
QBIDn, Im sick of sitting can i go look around.lol
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
QBIDn, Im sick of sitting can i go look around.lol

[Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
everyone should of dumped this along time ago.
 
Posted by aj4400 on :
 
Post from IHUB

Posted by: dingocub
In reply to: None Date:3/21/2006 5:56:00 PM
Post #of 233182

Q STUDIO RECON #4 Tues Mar21..

So once again I decided to drive to My lovely Q studios to see what I could see... Its amazing what a tour thru a parking lot can tell you..

Time was 2pm pacific

1. Parking lot Mostly full, Crew parking area lighty used...
2. Llyod Fan has a Personalized parking spot...
3. Frank Olsen Personalized Spot is replaced by FAN..
4. No Jackie Jett Spot...
5. Yes Scott Withers spot is still there...
6. Few other names I didn't recognize, but then out poped the WEASEL..

Warning the name your are about to see might scare the hell out of you...

7. One Upfront Parking spot was reserved for no other than

"VALCOM" crony
Egan Elledge

What does this mean I don't know???

What does any of this mean... I don't Know??

They are just laminated red pieces of paper w/ names on them...

Somebody hold me....

Where's the BEEF...?
 
Posted by logical buyer on :
 
njx300zx, no one will even buy for .0001. Been trying to sell mine for a month.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by logical buyer:
njx300zx, no one will even buy for .0001. Been trying to sell mine for a month.

How about the both of you get the certs and mail them C.O.D to me for .00005 a share? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
no thanks. I sold mine at .019 back in the day and never looked back.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by njs300zx:
no thanks. I sold mine at .019 back in the day and never looked back.

Damn!....anyone else? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
Next one is TWOG or RSHN
 
Posted by njs300zx on :
 
Look for Diana, she was one of the ones with me on this stock on the first awesome run
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i dont know where that came from looks like my blackberry screwed up again.

i posted that on Friday night with my blackberry.

rod


quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Here's what I see for the day is this accurate. Volume was really low

Rod


TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC
Symbol: QBID
Exchange: OTO
Last Trade: Mar 17, 2006 15:56 EST
Current: 0.0001
Chg: EVEN
%Chg: 0.00%
Vol: 434,446,247
Day H: 0.0001
Day L: 0.0001


 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi ya'll
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aj4400:
Post from IHUB
Posted by: dingocub
In reply to: None Date:3/21/2006 5:56:00 PM
Post #of 233182

Q STUDIO RECON #4 Tues Mar21.... Warning the name your are about to see might scare the hell out of you.... One Upfront Parking spot was reserved for no other than "VALCOM" crony Egan Elledge. What does this mean I don't know???

aj
Thanks for the information. I realize this is a repost from IHub, therefore you probably don't know if it's true, nor do you know what dingocub means by his comments. So let's all present our thoughts and see if we can find anything to digest.

This is what I found about ValCom (Yahoo Finance summary):

"Valcom, Inc. operates as a diversified entertainment company in the United States. It involves in the rental of studios for television production for network and syndication programming, and motion pictures. The company also leases sound stages, as well as owns a library of television content. In addition, it supplies and rents personnel, cameras, and other production equipment to various production companies. Further, Valcom produces television programs and motion pictures. Additionally, it operates as an independent television broadcaster in the Palm Springs, California. The company was founded in 1983 and is based in Las Vegas, Nevada."

Considering Q's business, it seems very appropriate for ValCom to be connected in some way to Q ... perhaps as a vender (it rents personnel, cameras, and other production equipment to various production companies), or as a customer (it produces television programs and motion pictures).

And giving the VP of ValCom an assigned parking space doesn't sound out of line if he visits everyday ... for whatever reason.

I can speculate on many "other" reasons ValCom might be connected to Q, and none of them "scare the hell out of" me.

Anyone else want to share their thoughts? [Smile]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Valcom has been in QBID picture for a while.
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/press.asp?ID=3540
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/press.asp?ID=3540

Thanks, fire. Good info.

I still don't understand dingocub's comment that the ValCom connection "might scare the hell out of" us.

Anyone know anything about dingocub? Is he a reliable source of info?
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
No problem BL. Who knows.
 
Posted by K2snow on :
 
Astra-

I bought 2 weeks ago in some respects by mistake, it was ALL my fault. I went to the order screen to look at something and did typed in an order and thought i was buying more RSHN, but instead i picked up 30m shares of this. Since then, i was thinking this may have an upside and i may be able to sell, such is not the case. I put order after order in and none have filled. I called Scottrade and inquired and they informed me that no orders were sold for the ENTIRE day, let alone most of last week.

Looks like im in for the LONGGGGGGGGGGGGG haul. Not looking for profit, just want 3k back in my bank i guess! If not, it was a 3k lesson i learned!
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
common you misspelled RSHN with QBID????? [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

man your typing skills must suck as bad as your vision is to make that mistake.

holy crap man, is that the best you can come up with.

you need some training
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/press.asp?ID=3540

Thanks, fire. Good info.

I still don't understand dingocub's comment that the ValCom connection "might scare the hell out of" us.

Anyone know anything about dingocub? Is he a reliable source of info?

BL... get a hold of King Crimson, he has a lot of info on the Valcom connection. it is an interesting circle to say the least.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Astra-

I bought 2 weeks ago in some respects by mistake, it was ALL my fault. I went to the order screen to look at something and did typed in an order and thought i was buying more RSHN, but instead i picked up 30m shares of this. Since then, i was thinking this may have an upside and i may be able to sell, such is not the case. I put order after order in and none have filled. I called Scottrade and inquired and they informed me that no orders were sold for the ENTIRE day, let alone most of last week.

Looks like im in for the LONGGGGGGGGGGGGG haul. Not looking for profit, just want 3k back in my bank i guess! If not, it was a 3k lesson i learned!

K2. No worries. I too am straddled with 30M...only wish mine were worth ONLY 3K. [Smile] Still, some days I wake up and feel optimistic. I dunno why, but i'm willing to give Fan a chance.

You may want to stuff it away for a few months. With such a massive re-org currently underway, I'd be hard pressed to see any movement north for another few months (an that is with one caveat, that Fan is able to turn it around).
 
Posted by Alek2 on :
 
I tell you guys what, looking at the charts, i can see that there will be a slight rise in the PPS come next month....

I have 200 dollars of my hard earned money in this POS and I want at least 1G back from it.

Thank you.

P.S. I have 2,000 in CNES.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alek2:
I tell you guys what, looking at the charts, i can see that there will be a slight rise in the PPS come next month....

Alek
What do you see in the charts that shows improvement for next month? I'm not good at charts.
 
Posted by mrbigdogpete on :
 
Is Frank out of qbid completley?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no one knows for sure.

there has been a lack of information that is starting to get long.

I think it would only be fair that they at least let us know who is still there and who is gone.

Franks parking spot is no longer reserved in the staff parking lot, it is now Lloyd Fans spot according to a post on IHUB

Rod
 
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alek2:
I tell you guys what, looking at the charts, i can see that there will be a slight rise in the PPS come next month....

I have 200 dollars of my hard earned money in this POS and I want at least 1G back from it.

Thank you.

P.S. I have 2,000 in CNES.

Not sure what chart you are looking at but I would be happy just to get my $200 back. Break even and be happy.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Extremely low volume lately, but what does it all mean?

Opinions?
 
Posted by mrbigdogpete on :
 
thanks Penny Trader.

in your opinion is a r/s inevitable, if so best guess as to the split?
 
Posted by freebird68nj on :
 
Calm before the storm?? Lack of Interest?? and my best thought, Frank is not flooding the shares anymore which keeps everyone holding in order to give Fan time to buy back shares and do some good.

Overall, I would say this one is exactly on the middle of the proverbial fence ..... can go either way. 1) Totally Awsome, or 2) Totally Gruesome.
 
Posted by Numa on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Extremely low volume lately, but what does it all mean?

Opinions?

Nobody can sell.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by freebird68nj:
Calm before the storm?? Lack of Interest?? and my best thought, Frank is not flooding the shares anymore which keeps everyone holding in order to give Fan time to buy back shares and do some good. Overall, I would say this one is exactly on the middle of the proverbial fence ..... can go either way. 1) Totally Awsome, or 2) Totally Gruesome.

Good points. Thanks.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Numa:
Nobody can sell.

Numa
True ... but what is the reason for the low volume? It probably means "something", but what is it telling us?

I don't really expect an answer, because we don't know enough about Q currently to know what anything means.

If a recent post about someone's visit to Q headquarters was true, we can assume Frank is out and Fan is in. But until someone actually sees Fan in the flesh ... well, I'll just wait for proof. Just hope Fan is not an allusive as Sasquatch has been all these years.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Extremely low volume lately, but what does it all mean?

Opinions?

you know things are bad when 685 million is considered low volume!! LOL. oh well all i can do at this point is laugh about it!.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Extremely low volume lately, but what does it all mean?

Opinions?

you know things are bad when 685 million is considered low volume!! LOL. oh well all i can do at this point is laugh about it!.
Yep ... I agree. [Smile]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
jack e. jett posted over ihub....


Posted by: skunkfish
In reply to: Reddog65 who wrote msg# 233388 Date:3/22/2006 2:42:45 PM
Post #of 233475


hey guys:

jack e. jett here. this is my first post. i have looked at this board for a long time. i love looking at geronimo's white lab, as well as hopefully finding some valuable critique on the queer edge. some of you i have met in burbank. i feel no need to post and hide my identity.
the recent events at q television have been devastating for me and my family.

being ripped off by the management of q television is not something i enjoy or take lightly. the queer edge staff is a family as well. in my opinion, there are 5 people to blame for this mess, and they are no longer part of the network.
i have been speaking to the press. i do not "relish" this as someone suggested here. just as i don't relish begging for the money due me and the staff/crew. you should know that each interview i take part of, a pulicist, (at my cost) listens to make certain that i do not say anything that could damage or harm the re tooling of the network. i have always been very, very apprecative of the investors and have felt like i really work for you. i am between a rock and a hard place. those that created this mess must be held accountable. the statement that my show was being "retooled" is inaccurate.......in fact, it was a f*cking lie.
the queer edge has always been produced with an emphasis to syndicate. believe it or not, there is a lot of interest from various "straight"
international outlets. the show is currently syndicated in canada. the show will be represented at MIP TV in a couple of weeks. i feel the project has potential and promise.

i don't know who hanson is. i don't care. i don't care if lloyd fan has sex with a sponge. i am far more interested in what someone brings to the table, than who they have sex with. i have confidence in mr. fan and carol hinant to turn this mess around. as someone saId here.....they can't do any worse. they both have a keen business sense and willing to hire the PROPER MANAGEMENT TEAM. this task will be made more difficult from the massive mess the previous team left behind. if nothing else, you have to hand it to them for trying.

the management wants to bring the queer edge back. that is being dealt with by my manager, agent, lawyer etc. i really love the thought of an INDEPENDENT glbt network that allows an aging tv gasbag like me to run amouk.

someone had posted something on this board discussing that they felt sandra bernhard was less than attractive. unfortunately, these comments got back to her. no matter what one might think of someone's physical features, i found it in poor taste to comment about it. sandra is a very talented and respected artist. she was very dedicated to the queer edge project, and she too is owed a lot of money. she will now be doing a show for logo. i would beg of you guys that if you choose to bash people for their appearance.....bash me....there is plenty of material there to work with. please do not bash my co host. they are really hard to come by and will be even more tough in the future. maybe, if you are going to do so...include a photo of yourself that will allow others to do the same.

this posting has been read and approved by my publicist.

again, i feel no need to hide my identity. i am jack*jackejett.com. i just wanted you guys to know that this is not fun for any of us. i will not let the previous administration off the hook, however, i want to move forward and give the new guys a chance to rock n roll.

jack e. jett
host
queer edge
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
to bad he couldn't share some more info
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Nice find KC.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nice find indeed. That was almost some transparency....just from the wrong guy. I appreciate him speaking up though.

Milliam
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Nice find indeed. That was almost some transparency....just from the wrong guy. I appreciate him speaking up though.

Milliam

Sorry Mill, but no matter who the "letter" came from, it would have still been the farthest thing from transparency.

At this juncture, being a long I can't stress enough the seriousness of the transparency issue. I understand you probably weren’t even serious in your remark, but I think its fair to say that we longs are all at a point where nothing less than official documented proof will be excepted. [Wink]
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
q...houseclean...says this at bottom of page....

You may only store 60 private messages. If you reach the maximum, no one will be able to send you a private message. Please delete old private messages!
 
Posted by akalooker on :
 
Jack E. Jett,

If you read this board here's my .02 worth.

First and foremost, Thanks for being a person of Honesty and Integrity.

Thank you for caring about us investors, Frank and his team of high water pirates surely didn't give a rats azz about us.

Your not the only one he's stolen from, try a few thousand believing and lied too investors.

I wish you nothing but future success, and hope that you get what is owed you.

Please keep up the great work and please come and share with us more often!

We still believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looker
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
q...houseclean...says this at bottom of page....

You may only store 60 private messages. If you reach the maximum, no one will be able to send you a private message. Please delete old private messages!

Go ahead KC
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Mr. Fan can sell but you cant. Fuq Q.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Hi, jack e jett here, i cant post the truth because that will hurt the network ,, i meen stock selling izness.. but if you post a picture of yourself Mr fan will be able to see the investors and laugh at you with a better image than frank olsen did.
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
For what it’s worth…

My brother went to the studios today and got lucky with his timing and managed to snag Carol Hinnant for a few minutes between her appointments. Here are some of the points, not the exact verbiage:

1. Transparency is very important to Lloyd and Carol. It will happen.
2. Absolutely will do the Gay Games.
3. Lloyd Fan is a tall, quiet and easygoing man who is a pleasure to work for.
4. Mr. Fan has put in a lot of money and is personally committed to make QTN work.
5. Verizon is a fabulous deal and is definitely going forward.
6. This new “team” was left with a real mess, but they are working extremely hard to get beyond it.
7. Frank and crew are out!
8. Keep watching for announcements. A lot should be out shortly.
9. The staff is fielding a lot of phone calls from irate investors who are angry with Frank. All they want to do is bitch, threaten and whine. This takes away from what they need to do to turn the pps upward. (IMO, we should give them the time and space they need to do it right)
10. Lloyd, Carol and the staff loved my cheesecakes!
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Frank and crew are out. but there vision is still alive. bend over..
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
1. Transparency is very important to Lloyd and Carol. It will happen. Realy? Ohh I just cant wait.
2. Absolutely will do the Gay Games."" Realy? wow thats a huge relief"" I just couldn't sleep at night with the uncertanty.
3. Lloyd Fan is a tall, quiet and easygoing man who is a pleasure to work for. You Work for him ? By your post it must be true.
4. Mr. Fan has put in a lot of money and is personally committed to make QTN work."" How much money jen tell us please.
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
stop your lies jenn
 
Posted by kilhs on :
 
Prove anything except the cheescake
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Well Shlik, at lease you found out that the cheesecake was true. Did you ask how many and flavor(s)? You must be one of those mentioned in #9.
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Some people love having a perpetual cloud over their head.
 
Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Thanks Jen and thank your brother for us!!!

Go Q!!!!
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
For what it’s worth…


7. Frank and crew are out!
8. Keep watching for announcements. A lot should be out shortly.
9. The staff is fielding a lot of phone calls from irate investors who are angry with Frank. All they want to do is bitch, threaten and whine. This takes away from what they need to do to turn the pps upward.

Jenn I respect your enthusiasm, but until we see factual evidence of such, I will continue to post objections in hopes of directing new investors in their contemplation of what is true.

The "mentioning" of Frank being gone, announcements or physical work being done in the studio proves absolutely nothing.

Again, we have all been pushed to the limit. I personally feel that most intelligent long investors of TMM want nothing less than official documented proof.

And the anticipation for knowledge of "change" in corporate status, per S.O.S., is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
 
Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
I want an Appolgy and my money back. lol
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
Monkey, I just want an umbrella in the sand. Margaritaville would be nice [Smile]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
For what it’s worth…

My brother went to the studios today and got lucky with his timing and managed to snag Carol Hinnant for a few minutes between her appointments. Here are some of the points, not the exact verbiage ...

Thanks, Jenn. Good info. [Smile]
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
lol that's weird, my scottrade acct is showing the ask at .0003 for qbid, heh wish it was accurate though
 
Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
I will not be posting much more. From now on when I get anything of value from Lloyd, Carol or anyone else, I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find. I find it very interesting that I used all the same available information that all posters on Allstocks have, I then fused it all together and used MY analysis, MY logic and MY opinion to write that post last week only to be drug over the coals. Some here want instant transparence. With what? Franks audit? How stupid. Some people need to put themselves in Lloyds or Carols position. You now have a corporate MESS to clean up. What would you do? Who and how would you select a board of directors? How would you restructure the management of Q? Who would you hire? The list seems endless and those armchair CEO’s think that they could just wave a magic wand and fix it all. Personally, I’m glad that Frank is out! He coned me like many. If you don’t like Lloyd, then buy him out so you can run Q. Don’t like Carol? Who would you replace her with? Some posters just bitch and bitch. Instead of whining so much, go out there!!! Good God, they’ve only had it for a couple of weeks. Maybe some need to walk in another’s shoes. My brother took some pictures and will return to Q next week and take more pictures and meet with Carol. I’ll update with P. M.’s
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
thanks jen for all your dd
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes I do think that it is inevitable.

to what extent? that is anyones guess.

could be a little as 10-1 but could be as high as 35000-1

no way to know till it happens.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by mrbigdogpete:
thanks Penny Trader.

in your opinion is a r/s inevitable, if so best guess as to the split?


 
Posted by Pennies to Dollars on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I will not be posting much more. From now on when I get anything of value from Lloyd, Carol or anyone else, I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find. I find it very interesting that I used all the same available information that all posters on Allstocks have, I then fused it all together and used MY analysis, MY logic and MY opinion to write that post last week only to be drug over the coals. Some here want instant transparence. With what? Franks audit? How stupid. Some people need to put themselves in Lloyds or Carols position. You now have a corporate MESS to clean up. What would you do? Who and how would you select a board of directors? How would you restructure the management of Q? Who would you hire? The list seems endless and those armchair CEO’s think that they could just wave a magic wand and fix it all. Personally, I’m glad that Frank is out! He coned me like many. If you don’t like Lloyd, then buy him out so you can run Q. Don’t like Carol? Who would you replace her with? Some posters just bitch and bitch. Instead of whining so much, go out there!!! Good God, they’ve only had it for a couple of weeks. Maybe some need to walk in another’s shoes. My brother took some pictures and will return to Q next week and take more pictures and meet with Carol. I’ll update with P. M.’s

Jennifer, even though I don't post much anymore, I still read this board usually once a day. I want you to know that I appreciate all of the information you provide us with and hope that you will continue to do so. If you do not, however, I hope you will at least include me on your PM list. I really enjoy reading what you have to say. Thanks.
 
Posted by Wangdo on :
 
http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32RGKNVOBQ0GE0RO1Y0C7KQL7R

another law suit against frankie the fraudster
 
Posted by jellybean on :
 
I have a feeling that Qbid will close at .0004 Thursday or Friday with very high volume. Will buy 100 million Thursday.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
and on, and onnn, and onnnnn.........

thanks wangdo
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32RGKNVOBQ0GE0RO1Y0C7KQL7R

another law suit against frankie the fraudster

Correct me if im wrong on my math. This cat is asking for relief in the amount of $5M? (5 separate counts--$1M each). Yet the contract for management services was for:
1. 1-time $50,000 fee;
2. $10,000 per month for 1 year: $120,000
3. 50,000,000 shares (August 05, so let's say PPS * .0015): $75,000
4. Oh, and line 10. Was to receive "Unstated" number of shares? wft? how does one quantify that?

So really, $245,000 in damages and asking for $5M?

I'm in the wrong business.

Then again, looking at these suits, there is only one personal conclusion I can draw: Frank makes me sick.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So that lawsuit is for 5 million, or is it just 1 million on 5 counts? Thankfully, I don't know much about lawsuits. 5 million sure seems like a bunch from what they should have been paid ($120,000 + shares). Seems pretty odd that they are suing for shares they didn't get. Especially when the share number wasn't even decided upon but would be based on their performance.

Also, they name Frank Olsen specifically in the suit. So is he not off the hook now that's he's out at Q? How much of the bearing of this suit will Q take? I'm assuming Q will have to answer to all monetary settlements, but maybe Frank will have to answer to the criminal stuff.

Its interesting that they bring up Frank converting his shares...maybe we'll find out if he ever really did!

Milliam
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Ad...you caught me typing.

Looks like from the suit that they actually got the first $50,000, so you can subtract that from the damages.

The unstated shares is really way out there. I don't blame them for trying to get something for them, but how do you put a price on that. Ha, maybe that's' where the other 4.75 mil comes from [Smile] .

Milliam
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
I want an Appolgy and my money back. lol

OK.

"I'm sorry ... and the check's in the mail." [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I will not be posting much more.... I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find....

Jenn
I understand how you feel, but remember that most Q posters are probably pretty decent and appreciate your DD and your positive attitude.

Only a few are rude and crude and can be ignored, which is probably how most people treat them in their everyday lives. [Roll Eyes]

For what it's worth, here are a few of my favorite quotes and may fit this situation:

"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." Benjamin Disraeli

"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do." Dale Carnegie

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." Herm Albright

"If you agree with me, say so ... if not, go to hell." Bottomliner [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Deg's wife on :
 
Jen....I too would like to be added to your PM list. I've been a good girl.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Alek2 on :
 
Guys, is the party in Vegas still on?

2,000,000 QBID LONG AND STRONG!
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
JENN you are the same person who was backing up Frank when he was dilluting this stock to no end.

The minute he stepped down, you turned your back and now starting to say how Lloyd is going to change this company.

Like QBID'n pointed out, we need to keep new investors aware of all the crap surrounding this company.

GF

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I will not be posting much more. From now on when I get anything of value from Lloyd, Carol or anyone else, I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find. I find it very interesting that I used all the same available information that all posters on Allstocks have, I then fused it all together and used MY analysis, MY logic and MY opinion to write that post last week only to be drug over the coals. Some here want instant transparence. With what? Franks audit? How stupid. Some people need to put themselves in Lloyds or Carols position. You now have a corporate MESS to clean up. What would you do? Who and how would you select a board of directors? How would you restructure the management of Q? Who would you hire? The list seems endless and those armchair CEO’s think that they could just wave a magic wand and fix it all. Personally, I’m glad that Frank is out! He coned me like many. If you don’t like Lloyd, then buy him out so you can run Q. Don’t like Carol? Who would you replace her with? Some posters just bitch and bitch. Instead of whining so much, go out there!!! Good God, they’ve only had it for a couple of weeks. Maybe some need to walk in another’s shoes. My brother took some pictures and will return to Q next week and take more pictures and meet with Carol. I’ll update with P. M.’s


 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Milliam- lol, even worse...they DID pay the $50k. But in all honesty, this is just a typical tactic to try and scare the defendant into settling...which will probably happen at some point. And again, this was first filed back in late December, so you have to assume Fan knew this one was coming. And when you purchase the company, you also purchase its underlying debts and obligations--including pre-existing and potential law suits.

Hopefully he still must have liked what he saw.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I will not be posting much more. From now on when I get anything of value from Lloyd, Carol or anyone else, I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find. I find it very interesting that I used all the same available information that all posters on Allstocks have, I then fused it all together and used MY analysis, MY logic and MY opinion to write that post last week only to be drug over the coals. Some here want instant transparence. With what? Franks audit? How stupid. Some people need to put themselves in Lloyds or Carols position. You now have a corporate MESS to clean up. What would you do? Who and how would you select a board of directors? How would you restructure the management of Q? Who would you hire? The list seems endless and those armchair CEO’s think that they could just wave a magic wand and fix it all. Personally, I’m glad that Frank is out! He coned me like many. If you don’t like Lloyd, then buy him out so you can run Q. Don’t like Carol? Who would you replace her with? Some posters just bitch and bitch. Instead of whining so much, go out there!!! Good God, they’ve only had it for a couple of weeks. Maybe some need to walk in another’s shoes. My brother took some pictures and will return to Q next week and take more pictures and meet with Carol. I’ll update with P. M.’s

Jenn, I don’t know if I was one of the individuals you were directing your post to, but if not then please forgive me and disregard this post. But if so, let me make it clear that there are some here that can vouch for my “patience” as I have stated in PM’s that I am 10-15 years “long” with this investment.

For many patient longs here, including myself, having watched Frank build QTN/TMM was never a matter of wanting overnight success, but rather steady growth in business relationships and subs instead. But hell, by all means…all is not lost. And I sincerely believe that. With a new CEO in place and a proposed new administration, we’re still in the game.

My point is this and its cut and dry. Most of us here have come to the conclusion that Frank’s failure to bring QTN/TMM forward has marked a turning point in this threads discussions of dreams and expectations, that of which were by the way, terminated by Frank’s lies and unprofessionalism. Talk is cheap! So I am merely suggesting that from the proposed new management forward, we should no longer trust the “statements” of no one else and expect nothing less than officially documented proof...because truly, anything less than factual evidence should no longer suffice toward the seriousness of our investment.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
I wonder how Q could have a burn rate, when nobody was getting payed, so it would seem.
 
Posted by King Crimson on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
Talk is cheap! So I am merely suggesting that from the proposed new management forward, we should no longer trust the “statements” of no one else and expect nothing less than officially documented proof...because truly, anything less than factual evidence should no longer suffice toward the seriousness of our investment.

well said.

...officially documented proof.... from the state of washington and the sec.

OFFICIAL. lawful. VERIFIABLE.
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Nothing less, nothing more.

Piss on the fluff. We've heard it all before. It will entail same subject matter, only from different people.

Like a scratched record.
 
Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I agree with you...and not offense, but if you can't take the heat or "critism" then don't post. Quite simple. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I will not be posting much more. From now on when I get anything of value from Lloyd, Carol or anyone else, I’ll just send a P.M. to certain ones. That way the others can save themselves from having to read what I find. I find it very interesting that I used all the same available information that all posters on Allstocks have, I then fused it all together and used MY analysis, MY logic and MY opinion to write that post last week only to be drug over the coals. Some here want instant transparence. With what? Franks audit? How stupid. Some people need to put themselves in Lloyds or Carols position. You now have a corporate MESS to clean up. What would you do? Who and how would you select a board of directors? How would you restructure the management of Q? Who would you hire? The list seems endless and those armchair CEO’s think that they could just wave a magic wand and fix it all. Personally, I’m glad that Frank is out! He coned me like many. If you don’t like Lloyd, then buy him out so you can run Q. Don’t like Carol? Who would you replace her with? Some posters just bitch and bitch. Instead of whining so much, go out there!!! Good God, they’ve only had it for a couple of weeks. Maybe some need to walk in another’s shoes. My brother took some pictures and will return to Q next week and take more pictures and meet with Carol. I’ll update with P. M.’s


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GoodFella:
JENN you are the same person who was backing up Frank when he was dilluting this stock to no end. The minute he stepped down, you turned your back and now starting to say how Lloyd is going to change this company. Like QBID'n pointed out, we need to keep new investors aware of all the crap surrounding this company.

GF
Sorry for butting in ... but I think you are being unfair to Jenn and want to point out some basics of common sense:

1) Speaking kindly about someone you believe in is not being deceitful ... it's called loyalty, even when it's misplaced. I also supported Frank in Q's early days because I believed in his "dream", even though I questioned his business practices. Maybe I was wrong about Frank, but I don't regret anything I've said about him, because I believed it at the time.

2) Most of us lost faith in Frank some time ago and were relieved to see him leave. I don't think that means we've turned our backs on him. It means Frank failed to prove he could run Q ... and our opinion of him as a CEO has changed, which is both logical and legal. Personally, I still believe in his "dream" ... but I am glad he is no longer running Q.

3) Do we believe LLoyd Fan will change the company? As shareowners, we certainly should "hope" so. You can believe what you want about Mr. Fan, but right now he appears to be our major hope. Thninking positively about a situation is a personal option ... the one I prefer. Thinking positively doesn't make me deceitful. It just makes me "feel good". Think anyway you want ... it's your right.

4) I don't believe we have any obligation to keep new investors informed of Q's history. Investing in stocks is an adult game and requires everyone to do their own DD. Investors who need us to keep them "aware of all the crap surrounding this company" should stay away from Wall Street. And I don't trust anyone who tells me he is trying to protect others from being scammed.

I am not trying to change your opinions, nor do I want to fight with you. I just think your comments to Jenn are unfair and undeserved.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and you base this info on.............


quote:
Originally posted by jellybean:
I have a feeling that Qbid will close at .0004 Thursday or Friday with very high volume. Will buy 100 million Thursday.


 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
very nicely worded.

i agree wholeheartedly.

i do however like to speak up when one is posting absolute ridiculous twisted information.

anyone that makes a statement as fact should post a link to his/her findings, or state it as thier opinion not fact.

anyone investing is responsible for thier own investment. I will never feel guilty for someone else's investment in anything. I do not hold anyone responsible for my investments either.

its an adult game as you stated and in such only adults should be playing it. An adult doesn't cry on a message board about his investment and start spouting off at others about how stupid they are for being involved.

have a great day

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:

4) I don't believe we have any obligation to keep new investors informed of Q's history. Investing in stocks is an adult game and requires everyone to do their own DD. Investors who need us to keep them "aware of all the crap surrounding this company" should stay away from Wall Street. And I don't trust anyone who tells me he is trying to protect others from being scammed.



 
Posted by mcspeechless1 on :
 
However great the news gets.....Expect an R/S down the line. JMHO
 
Posted by polo1110 on :
 
No no no!!! I have to jump in here in Goodfellas defense if you are going to get on him BL. Jen was much more than loyal to Frank. She defended what many on here considered to be very questionable decisions and actions. Maybe not directly, but by always stating that he was a good man with a dream and blah blah blah, always saying there was moer time for him to keep his promises. Most of us didn't buy it at that point, but we lost enough that we didn't want to sell. (I'm sure most wish they had now, haha)

Anyway, I don't want to be to hard on anyone, as we are all in this together, BUT Jen did defend Frank to no end, and she is pretty positive already about Lloyd. I would hope, Jen, you would learn from your own mistakes here, and not give the new ownership the benefit of the doubt until they earn it. I can promise you if they earn it, I will back them 100%, also. I am not saying I don't back them now, but I mean "back them" in the sense that I trust and believe in them, and what they are doing).

As I finish up what is probably my last post for a while, I would like to advise everyone to reassess individuals on here who they may have thought had an agenda at one time. Many of them were just trying to pass along any information that could help all of us invested in QBID. I say this because I was in a similar position many of them have been in for a week or so last year when I advised that Frank was in fact a liar. You, for one, were all over me about it BL. My only point was that if you looked at Frank's PRs and statements up to that point, he had almost never come though on time, and in many cases, never came though at all. My arguement was considered invalid because Frank "still had time" to follow through with his empty promises. Frank proved to be a liar in the end, so I hope that we can give everyone's information and opinions a chance this time around. Many of us on here just want to help.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
... i do however like to speak up when one is posting absolute ridiculous twisted information. anyone that makes a statement as fact should post a link to his/her findings, or state it as thier opinion not fact.

Rod
A quote from Mark Twain: "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." [Eek!]

Personally, I try to prevent facts from standing in the way of an interesting story. Life usually needs a little "spicing up" ... and lies work pretty well. [Big Grin]
And
 
Posted by GoodFella on :
 
polo, with all the respect I have for BL, don't even try to argue with him. Instead of answering your message he is gonna change the subject and say something like "please prove the fact that Frank was a good man with a dream" or "prove that Jen was 100% loyal to Frank.. what if she was only 99% loyal to Frank?".

GF

quote:
Originally posted by polo1110:
No no no!!! I have to jump in here in Goodfellas defense if you are going to get on him BL. Jen was much more than loyal to Frank. She defended what many on here considered to be very questionable decisions and actions. Maybe not directly, but by always stating that he was a good man with a dream and blah blah blah, always saying there was moer time for him to keep his promises. Most of us didn't buy it at that point, but we lost enough that we didn't want to sell. (I'm sure most wish they had now, haha)

Anyway, I don't want to be to hard on anyone, as we are all in this together, BUT Jen did defend Frank to no end, and she is pretty positive already about Lloyd. I would hope, Jen, you would learn from your own mistakes here, and not give the new ownership the benefit of the doubt until they earn it. I can promise you if they earn it, I will back them 100%, also. I am not saying I don't back them now, but I mean "back them" in the sense that I trust and believe in them, and what they are doing).

As I finish up what is probably my last post for a while, I would like to advise everyone to reassess individuals on here who they may have thought had an agenda at one time. Many of them were just trying to pass along any information that could help all of us invested in QBID. I say this because I was in a similar position many of them have been in for a week or so last year when I advised that Frank was in fact a liar. You, for one, were all over me about it BL. My only point was that if you looked at Frank's PRs and statements up to that point, he had almost never come though on time, and in many cases, never came though at all. My arguement was considered invalid because Frank "still had time" to follow through with his empty promises. Frank proved to be a liar in the end, so I hope that we can give everyone's information and opinions a chance this time around. Many of us on here just want to help.


 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Ad...you caught me typing.

Looks like from the suit that they actually got the first $50,000, so you can subtract that from the damages.

The unstated shares is really way out there. I don't blame them for trying to get something for them, but how do you put a price on that. Ha, maybe that's' where the other 4.75 mil comes from [Smile] .

Milliam

It is call punative damages and loss of future income.

The claim is that Frank manipulated the shares for his own benefit leaving the common shareholders out in the cold which caused a price decline!

They were never awarded the additional shares, eventhough they are worthless. So the stock they were given is worthless as well.

Gotta give it to Frank, he is sly. But, it may be that he just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
Jenn,

I hope you get this but.. please dont stop posting. If you do, please add me to the PM list or email me. You have that still right? [Smile]

You are one of the half a dozen reasons why I come to this board at all anymore. There are a number of individuals here that brought me to the point that I could either start responding with personal attacks or I could quit being an active member of this forum. I chose the latter.

I am still here and I still read things a few times a week, but I do so by skimming the names on the left and reading only those I care to pay attention to. Good or bad, I want it all, but I am tired of the flames, personal doom and gloom (and pumping) opimions, and I am completely over the posters that are here to save us all from ourselves. Even more amazing are the ones that admit they made potentially bad judgement calls and then brought their friends and family into it AND now feel they are qualified to speak with some authority on how and why we should or should not spend our money? Wtf?? Thats like asking a 5 times divorcee for marriage advice. Anyway, those self centered egotistical holier than thou self appointed saviours of the pink sheets types can kiss my royal white a**... [Smile]

fixed a typo...
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
ahahaha...too funny Ligge! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by polo1110:
... I don't want to be to hard on anyone, as we are all in this together.... You, for one, were all over me about it BL.... so I hope that we can give everyone's information and opinions a chance this time around. Many of us on here just want to help.

polo
I respect your opinion, but I stand by my comments to GF ... I think he has criticized her unfairly, since she labels most of her comments as "opinion" and (to my knowledge) has not "lied" to us about Q.

And I think you also are criticizing her a bit unfairly. Please understand that I do not know her personally, so we both may be wrong about her. But until I catch her in a proven lie, I won't criticize her for what she says.

I'm just defending her right to express positive opinions. I've also supported Frank many times in the past when he did "questionable" things ... and my reason for doing so was simply because I didn't know the facts and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Right or wrong, I was trying to be fair and objective.

I've admitted many times that my opinions often turn out to be wrong. But I usually form my opinions based on the "facts" available at the time. In the absence of facts, I tend to think positively and accept what I see and hear as true. What I am saying now is based on what I "remember" about Jenn's posts over the last year, and I just don't remember her saying anything that was proven to be a deliberate lie ... overly optimistic maybe, but I also suffer from Obnoxious Positivity and can sympathize with her.

Anyway, "I don't want to be to hard on anyone" either, and I hope I have not been unfair to you in the past. If so, I apologize.

But I will continue to challenge any assumptions that are presented as fact. I try to use "court room" rules ... anything not supported by evidence is opinion and therefore should be treated as such.

As for Lloyd Fan: I hope he's the best thing since sliced bread ... the cream of the crop ... the ying to our yang ... Q's messiah.

And until proven wrong, I will "assume" he's all of the above. Just my opinion based on what I know today ... show me facts and I will adjust my opinion accordingly.

GL to us all. I just hope we have more going for us than luck.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Ad...you caught me typing.

Looks like from the suit that they actually got the first $50,000, so you can subtract that from the damages.

The unstated shares is really way out there. I don't blame them for trying to get something for them, but how do you put a price on that. Ha, maybe that's' where the other 4.75 mil comes from [Smile] .

Milliam

It is call punative damages and loss of future income.

The claim is that Frank manipulated the shares for his own benefit leaving the common shareholders out in the cold which caused a price decline!

They were never awarded the additional shares, eventhough they are worthless. So the stock they were given is worthless as well.

Gotta give it to Frank, he is sly. But, it may be that he just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Um, punitive damages are routinely handed out in contract cases? enlighten me, please.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
He said - She said, so what!

The big question is if our parent company can survive if they are ruled as responsible. Also, if the plaintiff is successful, will this trigger more suites?
 
Posted by Ligge on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
ahahaha...too funny Ligge! [Big Grin]

Its amazing if you follow the trends of posters for the past 18 months how much they have flip flopped and sometimes even forget what they have told us. Free entertainment! Well, I paid over $7k for my ticket to ride but still... lol I am sure BL can fill in a ton of good stuff like taht from his records.

By the way I am in PS (well Rancho Mirage, but close enough)right now. Anything still here to go check out or has everything been moved? If anyone knows for certain please PM me so i make sure and see the message through email... I am on vacation afetr all!
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Ad, the plaintiff is claiming breach of contract in addition to securties violations.

Check out the first and third count.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GoodFella:
polo, with all the respect I have for BL, don't even try to argue with him. Instead of answering your message he is gonna change the subject and say something like "please prove the fact that Frank was a good man with a dream" or "prove that Jen was 100% loyal to Frank.. what if she was only 99% loyal to Frank?".

GF
I appreciate your kind words ... even though you seem to believe I never answer anyone's questions. [Big Grin]

Please read my reply to polo and let me know if I avoided answering him by "changing the subject" again. If you all would just read my comments instead of "assuming" what I am saying, I think you would find I express myself pretty simply. I try to make three points in all my posts:

1) Everyone has the right to express an opinion, no matter how much we might disagree.
2) Anything not supported by facts is just opinion, no matter how true we think our "assumptions" are.
3) When there is an equal choice between seeing the glass half full or half empty, I choose half full. My personal choice, my personal right, my personal opinion.

Thanks for your comments, guys. We obviously don't agree on many issues, but (ready for this?) until we see FACTS, we cannot know which of us is right. [Cool]
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
....until we see FACTS, we cannot know which of us is right. [Cool]

Thank you.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ligge:
Its amazing if you follow the trends of posters for the past 18 months how much they have flip flopped and sometimes even forget what they have told us... I am sure BL can fill in a ton of good stuff like taht from his records.

By the way I am in PS (well Rancho Mirage, but close enough) right now...

Ligge
Flip-flopping is pretty natural ... since opinions change as the situation changes ... and as facts replace assumptions. It's the people who intentionally express conflicting comments over time that should be challenged. Most of us are just confused about what we believe from day to day.

And my records aren't detailed enough to allow me to see any attitude trends. I just keep track of "recent" attitudes (my "good, bad or ugly" list).

If you do get the chance to visit Q, please let us know what you see, hear, feel and smell (taste is your option).

By the way, anything you say will be diced, sliced and pureed ... so be careful how you label it. [Big Grin]

[ March 23, 2006, 13:23: Message edited by: Bottomliner ]
 
Posted by firefly on :
 
http://sovo.com/2006/3-17/arts/feature/boob.cfm
 
Posted by knightslk on :
 
Nice find......... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
they dont give punitive damages in a breach of contract, and securities fraud is going to be hard for the plaintiff to prove. the main reason is b/c as the stock went down, so did Frank's worth, since he had 53% of the company. it will be hard for the plaintiff to show that frank was manipulating this stock when frank was being affected by the decrease in price too. as for diluting the stock, he was the majority shareholder and therefore if it's in the best interest of the company to dilute in order to raise money, then the court will protect his decision under the business judgment rule.

as for the contract, if plaintiff wins he will get the terms agreed upon. he probably wont get any additional shares because that term was too vague and it would be hard for the court to determnie how many shares he would have gotten had the contract not been breached. this seems like a case that can be settled for little damages.


quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Ad, the plaintiff is claiming breach of contract in addition to securties violations.

Check out the first and third count.


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
The false PRs have got to count for something...
 
Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
The false PRs have got to count for something...

the pr that stated they were going to release an audit may not be sufficient to constitute securities fraud. as for the # of shares and buy back of stock pr, they can defend themselves by saying that their business needs changed and they were not in a position to continue buying back shares, and in fact had to dilute to keep the business afloat. as for being profitable in the first or second quarter of 2006, that wouldnt be securities fraud b/c many CEO's make comments like that when they overestimate the growth of their company; those are just forward looking statements, and a corporation will not be held liable for those.

i cant think of any other misleading pr at the moment, although im sure there are a few more.
 
Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Ligge,

If I knew anything current about the PS office, I would PM you.

Since I don't, have a great vacation! [Wink]
--------------------------------------------------

Jen, hope you reconsider and continue to post--if not, please add me to your PM list.

I have no way to verify what you posted, but it seems reasonable, and nobody has proven otherwise.

If the games and Verizon were a bust--I think we would have heard about it last month.

Surely, both companies have some major concerns but haven't announced a change.

It was your posts that convinced me that I needed to contact QTN and state that "new blood" was needed.

You were correct. I wish that all of us had followed your lead much, much earlier.

The above lawsuit underlines the fact that the management of many businesses (and their attorneys) accepted Frank's word.

We do seem to have one consensus--that he violated our trust.

My anger and frustration are directed at the perpetrator not at posters.

We all know that message boards have many agendas, and that "grain of salt" acceptance is needed when not verified.

Many other companies, not just pennies--much larger companies, have treated investors in a similar despicable manner.

Some have appealed directly to investors while secretly destroying their investors' investment.

At this point, it seems to me that our only chance will be with Lloyd's and Carol's success in turning this ship around.

They have accepted an enormous challenge. Someone (probably Fan) has had to put some $$$$ in to get Carol to return.


For now, I'm staying with the "don't bite the hand that might someday feed you" thought.

Why punish them for another person's errors?

Mr. Fan appealed to investors for time. I've invested years.....what's a couple more months?

If we see a huge r/s, you can be sure that I'll be the first to yell.

But all of this is out of our hands--and that's what makes it so dang frustrating.
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
The false PRs have got to count for something...

BottomFishing-look at you dropping the BJR! [Smile]

And Gordon, I would agree if this was strictly a shareholder action; but this was a contractual relationship for management consultants. I'm not sure how well a jury would buy the argument that a major reason why the plaintiff engaged in the arrangement to begin with was by reading the PR's, particularly in light of the fact that the Plaintiff was given a fee up front, was to receive monthly payments, and of course, Franks/our TP.

Now shareholders, one could argue, might have a more tenable claim based on those PR's, if it can be proven clearly they were false.

But that is for another day. I hope Fan the Man can turn this puppy around.

As as always, the above is strictly my opinion only. [Smile]
 
Posted by Ad astra on :
 
I too am gonna stop posting for awhile. I'm going to give Fan the Man at least a month to turn the puppy around. Good luck all!
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ad astra:
I too am gonna stop posting for awhile. I'm going to give Fan the Man at least a month to turn the puppy around. Good luck all!

Ad
Hope you continue to check in occasionally, even if you don't post anything. [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Has this stock been delisted yet?
 
Posted by finnegan on :
 
To Shlik and other pissers and moaners....

Perhaps you would have been happy if Jen posted the following.

1. Transparency is not important to Lloyd and Carol. They don't care if it will happen.
2. Absolutely don't care if they do the Gay Games.
3. Lloyd Fan is a short, squat, blowhard of a man who smells bad.
4. Mr. Fan has put in a lot of other people's money and is personally committed to making himself rich.
5. Verizon is a fabulous deal that should lose shareholders even more money.
6. This new “team” was left with a real mess, but they are working extremely hard to sell everything off before investors find out just how bad it really is.
7. Frank and crew are out of the closet but are still very much in control of Q.
8. Keep watching for announcements. The staff at Q really enjoy watching you all squirm.
9. The staff is fielding a lot of phone calls from irate investors who are angry with Frank. But those are easily deflected by telling them that Lloyd fan has Frank's old parking space.
10. Lloyd, Carol and the staff laughed at my cheesecakes!

Maybe that kind of news is what it would take to make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You sound masochistic to me.

The point is, Jenn came by some information which she then shared here, as she has done in the past. Now you can either call her a liar or just do like NORMAL people do and keep the information in mind, along with whatever quantifiable negative information you come by and PAINT YOUR OWN FRIGGIN PICTURE.

Personally, I find her eternal optimism refreshing........certainly a damnsight more desirable than the tripe the likes of you sling.

Jenn...I know I don't post much, but I'd like to reserve a spot on your PM list too.

Finn
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
why can you not sell your shares?

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Has this stock been delisted yet?


 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by finnegan:
To ... pissers and moaners ... You sound masochistic to me.... Now you can either call her a liar or just do like NORMAL people do and keep the information in mind, along with whatever quantifiable negative information you come by and PAINT YOUR OWN FRIGGIN PICTURE. Personally, I find her eternal optimism refreshing ........ certainly a damnsight more desirable than the tripe the likes of you sling.

Finn
I agree totally.

By the way, did you have a good time on St. Pat's Day? [Big Grin]

Just noticed where you are posting from ... military? [Smile]
 
Posted by ptrs30 on :
 
Nobody forced any of us to buy this stock. We bought it with our own free will and now we have to deal with it.

IF you trust Carol and Fan, then may be you should stick around and see what they do with the company (I am not telling you what to do, you decide).

If you don't trust them, may be you should cut your losses, sell and use your expertise to find something that will make you money.

At this stage, I choose to trust them, and will give them time to do what is right. I don't think my whining or demanding them raise the pps will change anything, except take valuable time from them to deal with me and calm me down. I trust Carol knows better than me on how to make this thing turn around. So, lets let them do their job.

I don't think there is any other choice, unless you get a kick out of calling people names, whining, or feeling sorry for yourself...

Back to lurking mode now.
 
Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ptrs30:
Nobody forced any of us to buy this stock. We bought it with our own free will and now we have to deal with it.... Back to lurking mode now.

Peter
In my case ... a rather plump man with white hair came to my home last year and "forced" me to buy Q shares. So, I cannot blame myself for my current losses. Frank did it. [Big Grin]

By the way, lurk if you choose, but I like your style. Don't be a st