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Triangle Multi-Media Limited and Q Television Network Enter Into Agreement to Name New Chairman and CEO

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QBID0.00, +0.00, 0.0%) and Q Television Network [QTN] have announced today that they have entered into a new agreement with Mr. Lloyd Fan. Effective immediately, Lloyd Fan will assume the role of Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and Q Television Network. Mr. Fan succeeds QTN founder Frank Olsen. The move is the culmination of Fan's investment interests and the companies' evolving directions.
Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations. Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming.
The current and moving forward financial obligations of Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN are also being vigorously reviewed, and a fresh approach to resolving these situations will be announced in the coming weeks.
"The QTN business model presents a multitude of possibilities, and I look forward to taking outgoing Chairman Frank Olsen's vision to the next level," said Mr. Fan. "I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community."
Lloyd Fan brings many years of achievement in corporate finance, strategic growth initiatives, OEM manufacturing, international trade and product direct-distribution through his Best Prop Holding Group -- which owns Pat Prod Productions and Patented Product Industries. With a proud and proven track record, Mr. Fan is highly respected in the financial, manufacturing and service sector throughout Asia.
About Q Television Network:
This 24/7, premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.
The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(r) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
Contacts:

QTN Media Relations
Jim Strzalkowski & Kristien Brada-Thompson
Priority Public Relations
(818) 338-3555
jim*prioritypr.net / kristien*prioritypr.net

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Originally posted by imakmony2005:
NEW THREAD GO FAN ARE WE CLUB YOU.

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Originally posted by imakmony2005:
NEW THREAD GO FAN ARE WE CLUB YOU.

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Posted by iwearpro on :
 
lol what happend to the pps.lol 5 billion traded and it went to.0001. everyone sell it all and cut their losses.lol
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
well if everyone sold then who is buying?

im thinking maybe Fan is being a big vacuum.

lol

maybe he will retire enough to get us back on track.

i doubt it though.

we will see.

he is a business man, and we will see just how good he is in the near future.

he bought himself a real mess, and i hope he has the vision to clean it up and make us proffitable.

we shall soon see.

he may have just bought a dirty shell and wants to dilute another couple hudred billion and take us beyond the CMKX record.

i hope that is not the case.

lol

man do i have mixed feelings today.

i know we will be seeing a R/S any time now, the question is, can we survive this and make money or is this all for nothing.

Rod
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
I also haven't been able to find anything on the companies it says he owns. I imagine they are also fairly new and meant to take over the production responsibilities from the current Q team. In name, at least.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
Good to see Frank gone, this is definately a breath of fresh air for the market and definately needed. Anybody who thought Frank Olsen was a good CEO , lol, oh well, i wont get into a big fight. LMAO

yes there could be underlying issues that nobody knows about that could be negative regarding this news, (RS, preferred shares, etc.) but all in all, needed to be done IMO.

Still keepin a close eye to see if it can follow suit with the rest of the POS subbies in this hot sector of the market.
 

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Posted by Ligge on :
 
The PR came from Frank's watch and you guys are questioning if it is honest and informative?

I would say all PRs backwards from today are questionable and are almost best left there... I am not holding my breathe but I am going to give Fan a chance to try this with a clean slate at least from my perspective. It cant get any worse.

Reverse split or not, a value 0 is still not divisible by 0 regardless of who is in charge... so I am still hoping there is a rabbit in this hat somewhere!
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
here is a letter that i have sent to mr Lloyd Fan

hopefully he will answer


Hello Mr. Fan.

Welcome to Q television network, and Triangle Multimedia.

I have been a long time share holder in this company.

I would like to ask if you will be looking after the shareholders in this company. Our previous CEO has promised us that we will not be disappointed in holding this stock in the long term. He promised us there would be no reverse splits of the stock.

Can I ask you this? Will we be happy if we continue to hold this stock? Do you intend to continue on with Frank Olsen's promise of no reverse split and will you bring us some transparency to this company?

As you may well know, there is a large base of stock holders that have held out on this company and backed them, even after loosing over 90% of there invested value.

I am writing you to please consider this when you are making the very hard decisions that you are about to embark upon.

I wish you all the continued success with this new venture you have taken on. Please keep the stock holders informed with accurate information as we have been here through the worst of times. We have been feed allot of bad and misleading information from the previous directors of this company. We as stock holders are invested in this company as we want to see it succeed. We all had a vision and a hope for this company and we are still clinging to the possibilities that this company can have under the proper guidance.

I have seen your appointment as the new CEO of this company as a glimmer of hope that we will once again have a chance at seeing our vision and hopes for this company flourish.

Thank You for taking the time to read this letter, and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

Rodney Hurlbert
 

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Posted by sneither on :
 
Good Letter ((((Rod)))
Should I be nervous? I smell a r/s coming?

 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
here is a letter that i have sent to mr Lloyd Fan. hopefully he will answer

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Rod
Very nice. Thanks. Let us know if you get any response.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
No doubt Frank got a huge severance package on us.

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Originally posted by sneither:
Good Letter ((((Rod)))
Should I be nervous? I smell a r/s coming?

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I agree; that was a good letter Rod. Hopefully Mr. Fan will consider the longs as you have asked him to.

I also think we have a 95% chance of a R/S in the near future as the previous PRs saying there would not be a R/S said that it would not happen while the present management was in place—and as we all know, we have a completely new management team now.

GLTA
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yes Rod, the key thing you mentioned was "damage control" or rather damage repair. HUGE HURDLE!...it's going to be so time consuming.

Wow...this guy is gonna be busy.

This, together with the GG preparations, is sure to be nothing less than an 800 lb. gorilla.

I too will give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him all the luck.
 

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Posted by milliam on :
 
Hey David J....is this the information you were waiting on? Did you sell any of your QBID before this?

I sure hope this goes well for us. Glad that Frank isn't leading the ship anymore.

Milliam
 

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Posted by noah129 on :
 
howdy all. i was just reading the last few pages of the old thread and this new one we have, before i decided what to do on the ? of buying more qbid shares. i know we needed to get rid of franky that is for sure and it is good that he is leaving this scene but i am deeply dissapointed in the fact that he wasnt able to pull this off. now my greatest fear is a huge reverse split to the tune of 25,000 or more for one share. nothing has been said or done yet so i am not trying to spark panic in anyone but it really bothers me that now that we do have new management a reverse split is in my humble opinion very likely.

like i have said in the past im in this till we are up big or till bust so i am not selling any of my shares but i was going to buy another ten mil today and have decided it was unwise to until we see how this pans out. best of luck to you all it certainly has been a fun and exciting ride and who knows maybe one day we will be rewarded for our efforts and patience.

now in regards to frank if any of you are having feelings of i am gonna get him. please try to use the philosophy of the universe is fair and just and in time he will suffer his fair amount for the pain he has cuased so many with his lies and deceitfulness. i can thankfully say that im glad im not walking in his shoes he doesnt look like a healthy man physically or emotionally. his dream may actually get pulled off by this mr. fan time will tell but for franky i wish him well as i know he has lots of pain and suffering ahead of him due to his actions.

ok sorry for the long post i just needed to get some words out of me as i am truly very very dissapointed at how this has been panning out.

best of luck to everyone.

sincerely your qbidiot.

40 million long.
 

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Posted by Rtrng at 45 on :
 
anyone think a r/s is in our future now?
 

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Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
I BOUGHT 5 million more shares!! QBID RULES
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Yea, that's a good idea...lets go ahead and start pestering the new CEO with emails and certified letters, phone calls, visits etc.. lol.
 

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Posted by noah129 on :
 
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
DJ is full of crapola...

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Originally posted by milliam:
Hey David J....is this the information you were waiting on? Did you sell any of your QBID before this?

I sure hope this goes well for us. Glad that Frank isn't leading the ship anymore.

Milliam

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Originally posted by King Crimson:
don't post much.
don't post opinions much.
don't go ot much.
don't protect this company, stock, or frank olsen from the facts.

i do post relevent research.
with links.
you never have to take my word on it--or the company's...or frank's.
you can read the information and draw your own conclusions.
as thinking, reasoning adults.


all these jokers are connected.


what happens with LBS, NTI?

olsen, Velderdita and Shintaku are officers at
Valcom, LBS, NTI, Gulf States Holding
...posted January 25, 2006 15:04


Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry,

wonder if there will still be a Pittera connection...


deleted posted that this is new on pink sheets the other day...

Access TradeOne.com CIK: 0001096018

ACCESS TRADEONE.COM, INC. PS Com ($0.001) (New) ACST

http://www.pinksheets.com/companysearch/ps_list.jsp?sletter=A&nump=2


Access TradeOne.com was involved with the development of its 24 hour financial network, which will broadcast global financial news both on television and over the company's Internet global trading system.


Pittera is president of Access TradeOne.com
Pittera is counsel to ValCom, Inc.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345303000044/0001013453-03-000044.txt

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000101345304000042/0001013453-04-000042.txt


delete me if you want, i'm just passing on the information. you don't want it here, that's up to you.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no this is good info King im sure they will leave it here.

have you tied in any connection to Fan?

Rod

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"This is truly an exciting development," said Mr. Fan. "My partners and I understand the vision and the commitment Frank Olsen has made to the GLBT community with the launch of QTN, and we are pleased to join forces with QTN in ensuring its continued success".

Olsen, who remains Chairman and CEO of both Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. and Q Television Network stated, "Mr. Fan and his partners' commitment of resources to QTN is a much needed investment in all phases of the network as we work to proudly give voice to the gay community. Mr. Fan's appointment as Interim President of QTN further solidifies the network's ability to enhance its daily operations, programming, strategic growth and financial stability. I am very proud of the accomplishments QTN has made throughout the years in our struggle to bring a gay television network to market. Many people have played significant roles and have taken many risks. With the infusion of dynamic resources brought to QTN by Mr. Fan, the network's continued success seems assured."

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Monkey, that title sounds disturbingly like a peep show!
 

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Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Hey gotta bait the hook HOSS,LOL
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Now watch'em squirm! LOL
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
It would appear that way Doc.

either that or Fan bought more then Frank was aware of and took a controling interest in the company with out Frank knowing it.

this allmost looks like a hostile take over and Frank got screwed out of the company. this pr is made to save a bit of face for Frank.

agian this is only speculation, i have nothing to back this up on.

but someone has been buying a shiitload of shares since October and many many many times we have asked "who is buying all these shares"

i think now we may have an answer.

I hope to god that this guy is going to make things better for us all.

Rod

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
For the faithful longs here that refuse to damn Frank as he steps down, I commend you for your respect. Yeah, he wasn't the best CEO but he has brought us this far.

I can go on and on about the positive things he has done for QTN/TMM but I won't. We already know.

With that said, there is one thing I would like to mention. As much as we appreciate the things Frank has done for us, there are people on this thread that have shared good and informative information that has been equally appreciated.

But unfortunately, due to our spiral thats caused so much frustration (understandable but not necessarily technically justified), the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde syndrome of some posters here has seperated a few longtime freinds on this thread.

PT, MT, Doc, Whiz, KC, Sam, Suz, Lil, Imak, Wangdo and many more, have all contributed great information. And why?...because they care enough to share that information with everyone else to benefit as well.

Well....atleast it used to be that way. In fact, there was a time when this thread was probably the best QBID thread throughout all the other websites.

We are practically starting with a clean slate here. So lets all agree that there have been some of you that have been both wrong and right.

Agreed?...yes, definately!

Lets get back to the way things were before. And this spat about the date on "The Advocate" is ridiculous and uncalled for.

Come on guys. Lets all shake hands. We have a new CEO!...a clean slate. Lets quit all this squabbling and get back to being the envy of all other QBID threads.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
wow just heard that Dana Reeves (supermans wife) died today of lung cancer.

that is sad.

Rod
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i agree QBID'n

clean slate new day new game, now lets get the old DD diggers out here and find out what we can on this new CEO.

Rod
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
So does anyone think, asking for the audit is out of the question? lol!

Well, if Frankie the Fraud sold QTN/QBID, he lied to us once again, because he told QBID shareholders that when he sold that would be entitled to sell proceeds... Unless Loyd worked out a hostile take over, then it would seem that Frankie boy fiannly got shaft (no pun intended).

At this point, how much worse can it get? We can't sell this POS anyway. I personnally am looking forward to re a R/S. IMO there is NO other way to get the PPS back when there is 350B O/S
 

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Posted by Marva18 on :
 

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
Sounds like Fan bought "Q", is that not what Frank said he was doing "Building To Sell". I am not sure of this so it is just a thought

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Didn't say other networks like BET were sold for billions and his film library is worth so much!!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Sure would like to see MT and Doc shake hands though.
 

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Posted by Marva18 on :
 
THE REASON MR. FAN TOOK OVER!!!

Frank wants to start a Native-American network.
Who co-stars with Indians ==> Cowboys.
Gay Cowboy Movie "Brokeback Mountain" directed by Asian.
Mr. Fan is Asian.

See how this all adds up.
If you do, please let me know!!!lol
 

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Posted by Marva18 on :
 

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Sure would like to see MT and Doc shake hands though.

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How about a cage match??
Q could film it, "Q Shareholders on the Move"
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its fine if things are worth so much, but if your debts are higher then your worth, then it really means nothing.

the bottom line is a big fat O

you make the decision if i ment the letter O or a number zero
 

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Posted by Marva18 on :
 
I heard LOGO is filming a documentary of Q's collapse!!


NOT
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
you really should be more serious.

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Originally posted by Marva18:
I heard LOGO is filming a documentary of Q's collapse!!


NOT

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
its fine if things are worth so much, but if your debts are higher then your worth, then it really means nothing.

the bottom line is a big fat O

you make the decision if i ment the letter O or a number zero

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
For the faithful longs here that refuse to damn Frank as he steps down, I commend you for your respect. Yeah, he wasn't the best CEO but he has brought us this far.

I can go on and on about the positive things he has done for QTN/TMM but I won't. We already know.

With that said, there is one thing I would like to mention. As much as we appreciate the things Frank has done for us, there are people on this thread that have shared good and informative information that has been equally appreciated.

But unfortunately, due to our spiral thats caused so much frustration (understandable but not necessarily technically justified), the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde syndrome of some posters here has seperated a few longtime freinds on this thread.

PT, MT, Doc, Whiz, KC, Sam, Suz, Lil, Imak, Wangdo and many more, have all contributed great information. And why?...because they care enough to share that information with everyone else to benefit as well.

Well....atleast it used to be that way. In fact, there was a time when this thread was probably the best QBID thread throughout all the other websites.

We are practically starting with a clean slate here. So lets all agree that there have been some of you that have been both wrong and right.

Agreed?...yes, definately!

Lets get back to the way things were before. And this spat about the date on "The Advocate" is ridiculous and uncalled for.

Come on guys. Lets all shake hands. We have a new CEO!...a clean slate. Lets quit all this squabbling and get back to being the envy of all other QBID threads.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod

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try lloydf*qtelevision.com

That was the format of the other email addresses...

(franko, carolh, etc)
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient.
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
i really hope this thing doesn't reverse, i hope mr. fan has a good model for this american company
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Dew-it.

need i remind you that he has got the channel up and running in 16 cities, a telephony deal and a dvd out to the shareholders?

these are all promises that he made and kept.

he has kept many many of his promises, there are others that he missed on but many are things that where beyond his control.

yes there where promises broke, but that is the way business is.

many businesses start out with the intention of fulfilling all its plans. the thing is Frank brought us to this point.

he could have bail out long ago and left us holding a bag. he could have fold and went bankrupt, but he didn't do that either.

No one is happy with where we are and yes Frank may be responsible for this, but he has not completely screwed us like he could have.

we are still alive and have a new injection of hope here and for this we can thank Frank for not taking the easy way out and filing chapter 11.

get over your problems here and either get out or contribute to dd to find out what we may expect from our new CEO

Rod
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
Gay TV network faces money crisis
QTN names new CEO, as staffers claim they are not being paid
By GREG MARZULLO | Mar 7, 3:42 PM

Q Television Network, one of three national gay and lesbian TV cable channels, announced March 7 that it is replacing its chief executive officer, amid accusations from at least one on-air personality that he has not been paid.

Lloyd Fan, who served as interim president, will take over as QTN’s new chair and CEO succeeding founding CEO Frank Olsen, according to a news release. Officials from QTN declined to comment, deferring to the release.

‘The people that worked on my show have not been paid,’ says Jack E. Jett, host of QTN show ‘Queer Edge.’ ‘I haven't gotten a check in two months.’ (Photo courtesy of QTN)


The release also states that QTN is undergoing a companywide overhaul, including the creation of an entirely new board of directors and the replacement of QTN officers. All board members were relieved of their responsibilities as of March 7.

In early February, QTN laid off much of its production staff and filming stopped for a week. Although production resumed shortly thereafter, paychecks have still gone unpaid, according to Jack E. Jett, co-host of QTN's pop culture show "Queer Edge."

"The people that worked on my show have not been paid," Jett says. "I haven't gotten a check in two months."

A recent statement issued from the company's then-CEO Olsen stated that the entire company was being restructured.

"This could take 3-4 weeks, but everyone will be paid and brought up to date," read the statement. "We deeply regret any inconvenience or hardship this has caused our staff and the gay community."

Jett said the missed paychecks created financial difficulties for his young production team members.

"These kids are living with mom, working off debts," he said. "Some people were not able to pay bills or buy groceries."

Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-media Limited, launched in September 2004. The station is available to the public through subscription and programming runs 24 hours every day. The channel is available through Cox, RCN, Time Warner and Bright House networks in Birmingham, Ala., Eureka, Calif., San Diego, Calif., San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and all of Massachusetts, and through satellite with C-Band Intelsat. Both Cox and RCN are minority cable providers in D.C. and northern Virginia. Comcast, the area's major provider, does not carry the channel.

The station airs gay- and lesbian-related movies, documentaries, news programming and human interest shows. QTN is also the official network of Gay Games VII that take place in Chicago during July.

http://www.sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=5457


hmm, 3-4 weeks, doesnt sound too bad
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
good point i will do that right now

Rod

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
i will let you know. however i dont expect that mr Fan is going to have a lot of free time on his hands. he has a lot of damage control to handle right now, and answering a shareholder letter is probably not high on his priority list.

i dont even know if he will get it as i dont know what the emaill address that otheres that got a responce from him sent it to.

i sent it to lfan*qtelevision.com l.fan*qtelevision.com ceo*qtelevision.com and info*qtelevision.com.

if anyone else knows his other email address, could you send it to me?

Rod

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try lloydf*qtelevision.com

That was the format of the other email addresses...

(franko, carolh, etc)

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Dew-it.

need i remind you that he has got the channel up and running in 16 cities, a telephony deal and a dvd out to the shareholders?

these are all promises that he made and kept.

he has kept many many of his promises, there are others that he missed on but many are things that where beyond his control.

yes there where promises broke, but that is the way business is.

many businesses start out with the intention of fulfilling all its plans. the thing is Frank brought us to this point.

he could have bail out long ago and left us holding a bag. he could have fold and went bankrupt, but he didn't do that either.

No one is happy with where we are and yes Frank may be responsible for this, but he has not completely screwed us like he could have.

we are still alive and have a new injection of hope here and for this we can thank Frank for not taking the easy way out and filing chapter 11.

get over your problems here and either get out or contribute to dd to find out what we may expect from our new CEO

Rod

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient.

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Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.

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quote:

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Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
yes he is. and i believe he proved his point with this one.

he took a shell and tuned it into a company that someone was willing to buy into.

you bought in didn't you?

and Mr Fan sees potential in this thing.

Frank is tired, and a very sick man. he has done well in my opinion to get us as far as he has.


I beleive a couple months ago Frank told David Janis that this was up for sale.

looks like to me that David was the one that filled us in on this before anyone else knew that it was up for sale.

Frank is out, Fan is in, now lets give it some time to see how he handles this.

he obviously has a plan and that is why he bought in.

now all we can do is sit back an wait to see what the plan is.

no one knows if it is good or bad so please do not sell yourselves as knowing what is going to happen here.

anyone that claims knowledge of what is going to happen should not be listened to, as there is no inside info from this company.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by mikensay:
Hmm. I thought Franks specialty was finding undervalued businesses and turning them around.

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quote:

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Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

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I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD I LOVE QBID NOW

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Well Dew-it this is the stock market and you should know that there is no guaranties.

if you cant afford to loose money then you should not be investing in the pennies. or the stock market at all for that matter.

there are no guaranties, and to go off and spout about how you where screwed is just childish.

again point is, this is not dead yet.

you can either hold out and hope for the best or sell and cut your losses at this point.

crying will not bring your money back.

you are not special, we all have money here that has dwindled to this point. be a grown up about it and either accept your loss and move on or stay here and look for a chance to get your investment back.

you cant change what has happened in the past, you can only effect what your future may hold out.


now i suggest that you spend your efforts on determining what you are going to do for you future and stop looking at the past that you can not change.

your an adult? right?

then lets act like adults and not children.

Children cry and stomp. Adults look for a solution and rationalise things out.

my rationalising tells me that i cant effect what has happened, only what is about to happen.

You need to make up your mind right now. cry over spilt milk, or look at how you are going to replace that spilt milk.

are you going to be a child or an adult? the choice is up to you.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
I am not trying to sparr with you... If you want to belive that Frankie the fraud has done great things for you, than that is fine, but I dont' think you can speak for everyone here. Frankie the Fraud has not done NOTHING for me... I dont care that we have few states that air QTN or that we have Charo on some goofy show.... I invested money into QBID to make money, not see Frankie boy's dream realized or not. At this point the only thing that Frankie the fraud has done to me is take my money AND

quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient.

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quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Dew we still have a chance. And all I'm saying is that if it wasn't for Frank we wouldn't have that chance, thats all.

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:

quote:

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Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

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I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD I LOVE QBID NOW

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........

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Redgurl, hmmm...im sniffin a liar. you lieing redgurl

LMAO
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Now thats more like it Dew!

Doesn't hurt to vent does it? lol
 

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Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months

No further comments.
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Why would you buy at .0002 and be excited when you can buy twice as much at .0001????
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
lol MT be nice lol
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Redgurl or Redneckgurl? j/k lol
 

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Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
Dont know , just happy
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months

No further comments.

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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH, not to shoot a harpoon thru your credibility old gurl but awww..ummm..

how do i say this lightly....

The ask is .0001. 7MM stacked high. probably about 150B sitting there.

You blatenly lied about buying at .0002. How is anyone to believe that you know something, when the first post we see you lie?

good tryin gurl
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Oh.
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
redgurl, is that you dj? nah im j/k im just glad people are actually investing this stock, i have avged down .0002, so i guess we will see what happens
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by LEO:
Why would you buy at .0002 and be excited when you can buy twice as much at .0001????

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LMAO..exactly, point being, shes lieing. you cant even buy at .0002. you put a limit for .0002 and they fill you at .0001. or in fact, ive seen many including noah who are now getting filled at .00008.
 

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Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
I did buy at 0.0002
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
.0002 must be nice...$6000 more would get me there.
 

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Posted by redgurl19 on :
 
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yep!!!...Redneckgurl it is!
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
We know that MT i wanted to let her talk a bit more before we blew her story out of the water lol

she is stating to be from Canada, how would she know more then anyone else.

im well connected in my oppinion and i did not see this one coming right now.

Im going to give Frank a call, but i honestly dont think he will be able to tell me anything.

plain and simple as i stated before, there is no inside info out here

Rod
 

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Posted by mjm2005 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
PER FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN:

"WE HAVE BEEN OFFERED 1-BILLION DOLLARS"

BUT WE KNOW IT'S WORTH MORE.

SHAREHOLDERS WILL BE PAID!

LOL

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
I did buy at 0.0002

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quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no go on that address either.

hopefully the investor relations will forward this message to him for me.


Your message has encountered delivery problems
to the following recipient(s):

lloydf*qtelevision.com
(Was addressed to lloydf*qtelevision.com)
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No recipients were successfully delivered to.

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
Miller time , all i have to say is good luck. Msg me in a couple of months

No further comments.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Well Dew-it this is the stock market and you should know that there is no guaranties.

if you cant afford to loose money then you should not be investing in the pennies. or the stock market at all for that matter.

there are no guaranties, and to go off and spout about how you where screwed is just childish.

again point is, this is not dead yet.

you can either hold out and hope for the best or sell and cut your losses at this point.

crying will not bring your money back.

you are not special, we all have money here that has dwindled to this point. be a grown up about it and either accept your loss and move on or stay here and look for a chance to get your investment back.

you cant change what has happened in the past, you can only effect what your future may hold out.


now i suggest that you spend your efforts on determining what you are going to do for you future and stop looking at the past that you can not change.

your an adult? right?

then lets act like adults and not children.

Children cry and stomp. Adults look for a solution and rationalise things out.

my rationalising tells me that i cant effect what has happened, only what is about to happen.

You need to make up your mind right now. cry over spilt milk, or look at how you are going to replace that spilt milk.

are you going to be a child or an adult? the choice is up to you.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
I am not trying to sparr with you... If you want to belive that Frankie the fraud has done great things for you, than that is fine, but I dont' think you can speak for everyone here. Frankie the Fraud has not done NOTHING for me... I dont care that we have few states that air QTN or that we have Charo on some goofy show.... I invested money into QBID to make money, not see Frankie boy's dream realized or not. At this point the only thing that Frankie the fraud has done to me is take my money AND

quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
You haven't missed anything Dew. In fact, thats why you are still here. You still hold shares. You still believe.

If you seriously thought Frank has done nothing for you, well then you would not be posting here.

Be serious. Better yet...be patient.

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(

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red
Until you get to know each regular poster here, just ignore most comments ... and assume the rest are friendly joking. Stick around. We're actually a decent group ... just a bit odd at times.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
I did buy at 0.0002

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quote:

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Originally posted by mjm2005:
Ahhh, I'm listening to this Bela Fleck song right now... It's ridiculous....

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:
noe one likes me in this qbid thread :I(

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I think "Fan of QBID?" is a perfect title.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no one is saying that Frank was a great CEO. all im saying is he has not completely screwed us, and the game is not over.

lets get Frank behind us, we cant change the fact that we all decided to stay against our better judgements.

we are all in the same boat, and lets work together to get some new info on our new CEO.

Yes this is a board for discussion, the point is lets stop worrying about what has happened but more so about what is about to happen.

no good will come from crying about the past.

we have to live in the present, and the present has us with a new CEO and a whole new outlook on things.

we now know that we are not about to go bankrupt in the near future. we are however faced with the good possibility of a R/S and a potential new direction with the company.

can we expect to see a return from this, or are we in for a major let down.

Rod
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
who knows, maybe he will retire a bunch of shares, and buyback a ton, release the audit, or maybe its all a dream, only time will tell, can't wait till we get a shareholder report though from mr. fan
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Kewl. You are right "we are all in the same boat" Lets hope for a miracle and hope things get better with Loyd and forget about the Frankie boy.

quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no one is saying that Frank was a great CEO. all im saying is he has not completely screwed us, and the game is not over.

lets get Frank behind us, we cant change the fact that we all decided to stay against our better judgements.

we are all in the same boat, and lets work together to get some new info on our new CEO.

Yes this is a board for discussion, the point is lets stop worrying about what has happened but more so about what is about to happen.

no good will come from crying about the past.

we have to live in the present, and the present has us with a new CEO and a whole new outlook on things.

we now know that we are not about to go bankrupt in the near future. we are however faced with the good possibility of a R/S and a potential new direction with the company.

can we expect to see a return from this, or are we in for a major let down.

Rod

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Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
At this point , i'm glad that something is happening. At least we got to hear an update. And its time for this stock to take a turn one way or another in my opinion. Hopefully a profitable one of course.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Thanks for the unsolicited advice... BTW, it is retard not retart, Einstein. It must have been a Freudian slip, I’m sure.

quote:

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Originally posted by poopatystock:
listen all you retarts wake up and smell the coffey !!!! the old man said that he will not do a reverse split as long as he is ceo. Now the company can do one and you cant get him into trouble!! so,get ready to lose all your shares!!!! So to sum it all up, all these years that straight people have been making fun of fags is coming back to bite you in the gays favorit place!!!

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quote:

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Originally posted by redgurl19:

quote:

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Originally posted by noah129:
hey redgurl19 can i ask why? im not at all bashing im just curious as to what made you think today was a good day to buy. maybe ill buy more too but i would really appreciate your opinions as to why qbid is a good buy right now.

are you in this for the long haul or are you trying to double up some cash by getting lucky and selling at .0002?

tia for your input.

---

I bought them at 0.0002 ....Ecellent price.Im excited. Because i found something out the other day , so i had to wait to see if it was true and it is . THANK GOD I LOVE QBID NOW

*hugz QBID , XKEM AND USXP*

NO one believed in USXP and look wh ere it is ........

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are you at liberty to say what you found out? and also if you dont mind me asking why didnt you bid .0001 i have had no problems getting filled on that price and also once got filled for .00009. just a thought but if you could share i would love to hear as i have cash on the sideline and if your info seems reasonable i would love to pick up another 10-20 million shares. thanx and good luck.
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point.

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
well thats always good to hear
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
And the saga continues. New chapter new verse. Got my write off and hold 5 mil cheap. If I loose it, oh well. Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride ( as Terry corrected me (Betty Davis)).
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Thanks Doc.
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by poopatystock:
listen all you retarts wake up and smell the coffey !!!! the old man said that he will not do a reverse split as long as he is ceo. Now the company can do one and you cant get him into trouble!! so,get ready to lose all your shares!!!! So to sum it all up, all these years that straight people have been making fun of fags is coming back to bite you in the gays favorit place!!!

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San Francisco?
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Any ideas why the trading numbers went negative today???
 

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Posted by noah129 on :
 
poopatystock please give something relevent to qbid dew-it is frustrated like the rest of us and is im sure if you dont mind me speaking just trying to cope with all the lies and pps spiraling that has occurred.

also i would like to say to all on this message board that a persons sexual preference is their own choice and whether we aggree with how they choose or not we should always remember to remain human towards eachother in the face of a disagreement. i am not a person who partakes in glbt activities in any way but i can assure you that if you feel that being glbt is so wrong take a hard look at your own life and activities and tell me that you are not ashamed of any part of your own lives.

thanx again for all of you hearing my posts and please let us try to remain civil as we sort of are a family now until qbid do us part. or bring us together in vegas yeah...........

tonight ill have blueberrychocolate cheesecake jen heheehe.
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi Hoss, will be back in the big sandersbox again this week. YeHa.
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
LOL Hey Fly, I am actually heading out to Dallas Texas for the weekend.
I'm glad to see some life back in this board! Gotta get my .0001's worth of entertainment!
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
I agree. Have fun in Teja. Rumor it I am heading to Reno in a few. Utah was fun after the meetings and snow mobiling.
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Cool. That sounds pretty awesome. Let me know when you are back in town for a weekend, we still need to hook up for a beer.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I have absolutely no clue what you just posted...but I will assume that you are making a very feable attempt to give "us" investment words of wisdom. So on my behalf, Thanks!

quote:

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Originally posted by poopatystock:
ok dew it or dew-him what evr u are! looks like your going to take where the sun dont shine (not the way u normaly do obviously) when they do a rs on all u dreamers and pumpers. IS that why your so bitter dew-him!Your own kind gona give it to ya! ha ha.

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quote:

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
Cool. That sounds pretty awesome. Let me know when you are back in town for a weekend, we still need to hook up for a beer.

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quote:

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Originally posted by poopatystock:
look, i wasnt looking to hurt any one homo or not homo.

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quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Just let him rant Dew. Seriously, just let him rant.

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Posted by poopatystock on :
 
19,987,600m long!!wow! let me see,after a nice big 1000 to 1 revers split what number will you be braging about? I wish i had my calculator.IT may be 19,987.6 im not sure. wish i can help ya. Sorry.
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
http://sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=5457
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Old news neighbor...but good eye.
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Old news but new provider
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
How you been?
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Great, working hard. Too many planes and cars lately. How about you neighbor?
We need to get together with Hoss for a drink.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Sounds good. Man you get around don't you?
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Too much, Get home dig out and do it again.
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Doctoall,where did you hear about the meeting?

Thanks Rich
 

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Posted by Marty on :
 
Wow.....haven't been around for awhile....told ya Rod you'd like the DR Nice place....new interum President? huh.....restructuring just around the corner it would seem....the new 'investors' are gunna want their share prices to be of value..and it most certainly won't be a strike price of .0001 or some sub amount of.....JMHO
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Hi Marty, Still Pinky Land. You never know. A real Vegas roll this week.
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I want to buy more!!! I am tempted!!
 

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Posted by Marty on :
 
Hey fly...LOL....no doubt....I hope it works out....still got some in the 'gamble' Interesting read through the pages....GLTA
(had to fix spelling)

quote:

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Originally posted by firefly:
Hi Marty, Still Pinky Land. You never know. A real Vegas roll this week.

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quote:

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Originally posted by tongusc:
New president hmmm new scams~ or a new Rs
look ICAN

good luck

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quote:

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Originally posted by STATX:
20 Billion?? Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny

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Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
God i was waiting for someone to post that???--------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 Billion?? Q has long had an odd financial structure. Parent company Triangle Multi-Media is a penny stock with 20 billion shares outstanding, but trading at a fraction of a cent per share. Tuesday’s price: 1/100th of a penny.
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Hows the waves monkey?
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
funny how the posters with only a handful of post show up on news.

lol

it is wild.

this thing has some life again and they are crawling out of the woodwork.

lol

Rod
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
Hey mon, have fun in Jamaca ?
 

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Posted by Pennies to Dollars on :
 
Hello everyone. I said I would come back after we received good news and, in my opinion, getting a new CEO is the best news we could ask for right now...


...Let's hope.
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I am happy about Fan,now I just hope he is the MAN!!! GO QBID!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Wonder where Jen is?
 

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Posted by JimS on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Rich735:
Wonder where Jen is?

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Jen is in Memphis and we are keeping in touch.
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Sounds like we could have a PR by Friday, that is if all went well with the meeting today. Let's just hope that it is good news.
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I hope your right Doc! Any news is good news at this point!
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Rich735:
Doctoall,where did you hear about the meeting?

Thanks Rich

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From Richard Brown this afternoon,their meeting has a recess and Richard returned my call during his break. According to Richard the meeting had already had been in progress for approx 2 hours, they were having a break and the meeting was to resume in 20 mins. He sounded very positive about the whole situation, looks like the IR guy is finally in on some of the decisions. Richard did say that he was pushing for a PR as early as tomorrow but thought that Friday maybe more realistic. One can only wait and see
 

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Thanks JimS, I am in Memphis.
It's time to get back to that old DD. I thought you all would like this:

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Subject: Curve TV



When do you plan on broadcasting Curve TV? Can you give a specific date?

Thanks, Jenn
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
cool thanks Doc.

nice hearing from you.

Rod
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Which will come first, the reverse split or the audit?
 

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Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Sounds like a chicken or the egg question.

Seems as if an audit would be needed before any financial changes are made.


Another question/speculation: Frank has been selling his shares to Fan?
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
Thanks Doc!!!
 

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Posted by STATX on :
 
..in any scenario of this now transition in the company due to being preplanned or surprised Frank would not allow his personally invested $$$
become worthless.. if he had to he would piece TMM/QTN off to the highest bidder to recoupe his losses.. the reflection of Fan entering the picture possibly as far back as Oct of 05', hearsay of a new ceo approaching, statement of 30% of structure used towards debt, billions of shares crossing the tape with absolutely no demand for months, to me implies a plan was in hand.. preplanned from the start or a safety net along the path we will never know.. question now is did Frank remember us in the end or should i say the new beginning... ??????????????
 

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Posted by manfromjax on :
 
Well, another stock that I own just announced a RS

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060308/20060308005414.html?.v=1

QBID will do a RS if it wants to trade with the big boys. My history with RS is that the stock trades down afterward. SO, buying QBID before the RS would probably not a good idea. It might be better to sell before and buy back afterwards at a lower price.

Again, we need and Audit to determine what QBID has and what is the subscription base.

I hope that we do have some news from Fan on Friday and that it is positive for the shareholders!

Good luck to all.
 

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
MJ-Glad to see you are back. Any interest in taking a position, or still wait and see? (which I can totally understand).

I am glad Mr. Fan is in the house...my only concern is that I have heard nothing about us little ole shareholders. He plans on clearing house...good for him...but I hope he thinks about us on the way up.

Good luck all. At least one thing is clear, never a dull moment in this stock.
 

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Posted by Wangdo on :
 
pre-market activity
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
I think "Fan of QBID?" is a perfect title.

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Thank you
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Wow, over a billion in the first 9 minutes
 

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Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
Wait people are in Memphis and keeping me out of the loop? thats not fair ....

*been in lurk mode*

I have done an extensive search on Best Prop Holding Group and i have been unable to find any information about this company unrelated to the QBID management change. As near as i can tell the company does not exist. I have tapped some Asian resources i have and seeing if there is any company registered as Best Prop Holding Group in Taiwan and/or China. If no hits their, i will swing southeast around the coast and hit other countries for info.

As it stands right now with the lack of information, i can only assume that Mr. Fan is either ficticious or raised to a much higher stature then he really is. I'm almost certain that If Lloyd Fan was as "respected" as the QBID PR's claim then i would at least find some mentioning of him in Asian Business Magizines. So far the ones i have searched have no mention of Mr. Lloyd Fan. So here is my conclusion and prediction.

Mr. Fan was brought in to "restructure" the company. Since Frank did promise not to R/S while he was running the show in a PR he therefore cannot do so. However if he turns the company over temporarily to another person, then he can preform the r/s without blame on either of them. Then mysteriously Frank will come back with a new investor and take the company back over and continue on business as usual.

Granted this is based off past misinformation, lack of information on Mr. Fan and his company, and what a conspiring weasel many people think Frank might be. Now something we also have to question, is Frank capable of coming up with such an elaborate scheme. I will leave for you to decide. Again this is "IMO" (wish i could make that 64 font) so dont think what i write is worth a nickle, just baises this scenario (which is possible) based on the past, present information (or lack there of), and what the future might bring.

Hope this C/T is wrong but how knows just thought id throw that in the pot. I'm still hoping the best for Q but it dosent look to bright at this point from my POV. I will be checking in later
 

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Posted by rkitch on :
 
Having problems on the 240 loop, lol. Do like I did. Go east on I40 and don't look back until you see the smokies, lol
 

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Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
i prefer 385, more sceneic. or actually in my case it would be 302 to 72 then back north to 385, my little mississippi - memphis loop:)
 

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Monopoly-

Possible. But after a year with Frank...im willing to give the Benefit of the Doubt.
 

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Posted by milliam on :
 
So is this how Frank gets out of all of the shareholder lawsuits? I sure hope this Fan guy can do something positive for us, but its hard to forget or forgive Frank for all of the BS in the past.

M.M. that is a mighty interesting scenario there. I sure hope it doesn't come true, but with all of the underhanded crap that's gone on, I wouldn't put it past Frank and co.

Maybe the best thing we could hear now is that it was a hostile takeover. That would make me feel better. I'd also feel like maybe Frank got what he deserved...which is nothing!

Milliam
 

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Posted by milliam on :
 
BTW...L2's anyone?
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
vol 2.07B
.0000x0
.0001X7

quote:

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Originally posted by milliam:
BTW...L2's anyone?

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quote:

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Originally posted by milliam:
So is this how Frank gets out of all of the shareholder lawsuits? I sure hope this Fan guy can do something positive for us, but its hard to forget or forgive Frank for all of the BS in the past.

M.M. that is a mighty interesting scenario there. I sure hope it doesn't come true, but with all of the underhanded crap that's gone on, I wouldn't put it past Frank and co.

Maybe the best thing we could hear now is that it was a hostile takeover. That would make me feel better. I'd also feel like maybe Frank got what he deserved...which is nothing!

Milliam

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I’m very excited that Q will be broadcasting in Australia at the end of this month.

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quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Must see!...too funny!

https://home.comcast.net/~jfmelnick/fruitcakelady.wmv

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I’m very excited that Q will be broadcasting in Australia at the end of this month.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
Wait people are in Memphis and keeping me out of the loop? thats not fair ....

*been in lurk mode*

I have done an extensive search on Best Prop Holding Group and i have been unable to find any information about this company unrelated to the QBID management change. As near as i can tell the company does not exist. I have tapped some Asian resources i have and seeing if there is any company registered as Best Prop Holding Group in Taiwan and/or China. If no hits their, i will swing southeast around the coast and hit other countries for info.

As it stands right now with the lack of information, i can only assume that Mr. Fan is either ficticious or raised to a much higher stature then he really is. I'm almost certain that If Lloyd Fan was as "respected" as the QBID PR's claim then i would at least find some mentioning of him in Asian Business Magizines. So far the ones i have searched have no mention of Mr. Lloyd Fan. So here is my conclusion and prediction.

Mr. Fan was brought in to "restructure" the company. Since Frank did promise not to R/S while he was running the show in a PR he therefore cannot do so. However if he turns the company over temporarily to another person, then he can preform the r/s without blame on either of them. Then mysteriously Frank will come back with a new investor and take the company back over and continue on business as usual.

Granted this is based off past misinformation, lack of information on Mr. Fan and his company, and what a conspiring weasel many people think Frank might be. Now something we also have to question, is Frank capable of coming up with such an elaborate scheme. I will leave for you to decide. Again this is "IMO" (wish i could make that 64 font) so dont think what i write is worth a nickle, just baises this scenario (which is possible) based on the past, present information (or lack there of), and what the future might bring.

Hope this C/T is wrong but how knows just thought id throw that in the pot. I'm still hoping the best for Q but it dosent look to bright at this point from my POV. I will be checking in later

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See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 
well mr fan--

...as of now, it's all just a pr...

...good that there are still only 75k a/s of qtn

...no change of any corp officers....

...No new amendments....


wa sos....(360) 753-7115 (option 5)

tmm ubi 601 047 757
5/08/51 Date of Incorporation
8/24/04 amendment a/s + to 50b
7/25/05 license renewed (due 5/31/05)
11/07/05 amendment a/s + to 60b
12/19/05 amendment a/s + to 100b
02/07/06 amendment a/s + to 350b

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
rene schenk, sec/tres


qtn ubi 602 391 767 reinstated 9/8/05

qtn corp status:
5/03/04 --Date of Incorporation a/s 75k
6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active
6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive
9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved
9/08/05 --reinstated
9/8/05 to present --active

frank olsen, pres/chairman of board
joseph morales, vice pres
marian sherman, director
rene schenk, sec/director
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah and from some of your previous post, recognizing that, why would you post this? lol
 

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Posted by Wangdo on :
 
KC is refering to QTN not QBID(or TMM)
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I better double check for my sake. It's time for me to call them back anyways.
 

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Posted by Wangdo on :
 
check both UBI #'s

tmm ubi 601 047 757

qtn ubi 602 391 767
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Esteban99:
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.

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tmm = 350b a/s

qtn = 75k a/s

call and ask yourself...
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yes, they both check out.

Not that I doubted you KC...it was just my rookie reaction.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
that is correct.

quote:

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Originally posted by King Crimson:

quote:

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Originally posted by Esteban99:
King, the A/S is 350 Billion

This has been confirmed by many calls to the state of Washington.

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tmm = 350b a/s

qtn = 75k a/s

call and ask yourself...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ad astra:
Yeah, but Authorized Shares and Outstanding Shares are two totally different beasts. And quite frankly (no pun intended) no one really knows how many are Outstanding.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next few weeks. I for one am willing to give it some time.

Hey Doc and Monkey--can you wink if this was the type of change you were expecting?

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
The way this thing has been trading in billions everyday it could very easilty be assumed or presumed that we are close to the entire A/S - I sure hope not. Currently our 10-day trading avg is 1.9B! I have to wonder what the hec is going on? Is Lloyd going to continue to exhaust the entire A/S and then R/S? We cannot continue to trade like this. Even though the volume is indicating billions in buys at .0001, that can not be true, otherwise the PPS would increase. Unless Frankie the fraud is still selling his shares under .00009 and Lloyd is gobbling/buying them up at .0001 - just speculation on my part...

quote:

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Originally posted by Ad astra:
Yeah, but Authorized Shares and Outstanding Shares are two totally different beasts. And quite frankly (no pun intended) no one really knows how many are Outstanding.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next few weeks. I for one am willing to give it some time.

Hey Doc and Monkey--can you wink if this was the type of change you were expecting?

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quote:

---

Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
Has anyone checked with WA State to determine if there has been an applicatin submitted for a change of ownership????

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quote:

---

Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I got in at .0016

quote:

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Originally posted by TINPOZ:
im in at .ooo4, ohhhhhhhhh boy

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quote:

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Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

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quote:

---

Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Just an update for anyone who's interested~

I had sent a certified letter to QTN studios in Burbank in early Feb, requesting that I be allowed the shareholder examination as allowed by WA state law.

The letter was addressed to Frank and attorney Randy Vaughan.

The letter was signed for by Alexis Fish.

I spoke to Mr. Vaughan, who claimed no knowledge of the the letter. He suggested that I contact Richard Brown for "shareholder issues".

After several days, I got through to Richard Brown. Several days later he acknowledged that my letter had been received. He then indicated that he could arrange a "visit" for me at the studio.

I informed him that I wasn't interested in "visiting", I would be going for documentation inspection.

He sent me a copy of an email he had sent to Rene on 2/21, attempting to arrange my "visit".

I have not had a returned phone call or returned email since.

Today I sent a letter to the WA state officials documenting TMM's refusal to comply with their state law.

Sigh.

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quote:

---

Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

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quote:

---

Originally posted by GatorMan:
Here's a scenario I'm just going to throw out. I know as much as the rest of you, but being a cynic I am assuming that this deal will not have the best interests to the minority stockholders in mind.

Consider that this Best Prop Holding Group has purchased the majority holdings of QBID from Frank. Perhaps even a good chunk if not all of the excess A/S. Could it be possible that the plan is to raid QBID of its assets and then dump it? What would keep the Fan guy from declaring that QTN, and whatever other assets QBID might have, are being sold to Best Prop Holding Group for next to nothing. Maybe even a stock swap in some worthless company they want to get rid of. Best Prop could then just dump their shares of QBID, now gutted, and walk away.

I'm not saying this is going on, but it could be.

I wish I could be optimistic about these changes but we just don't know enough of what is going on.

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I would think that Frank has already been given his Best Prop stocks

People, Frank is going to do what is best for Frank. He has already PROVEN that he does not care what happens to current shareholders.
 

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Posted by mjm2005 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Ad astra:
MJ-Glad to see you are back. Any interest in taking a position, or still wait and see? (which I can totally understand).

I am glad Mr. Fan is in the house...my only concern is that I have heard nothing about us little ole shareholders. He plans on clearing house...good for him...but I hope he thinks about us on the way up.

Good luck all. At least one thing is clear, never a dull moment in this stock.

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quote:

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Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

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Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

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You are incorrect with regard to the website being for sale. The web address has to be entered as you saw it. Notice the /tw at the end?

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quote:

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Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

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Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

---

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.

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quote:

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Originally posted by noah129:
gordon dont feel bad bro many have much higher inpoints than that. mine is now averaged down to .0008 but i have waaaaayyy tooo much in this i really hope fan does us right. this very well may be the ultimate cinderella story if fan the man can pull this off.

40 million long and strong on lockdown.

long live qbidians and qbidiots.

haha i was really a googidiot today i coulda woulda shoulda made 8k but instead made 800$ hehehe oh well good luck to you all.

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quote:

---

Originally posted by GatorMan:
[QB
Consider that this Best Prop Holding Group has purchased the majority holdings of QBID from Frank. Perhaps even a good chunk if not all of the excess A/S. Could it be possible that the plan is to raid QBID of its assets and then dump it? What would keep the Fan guy from declaring that QTN, and whatever other assets QBID might have, are being sold to Best Prop Holding Group for next to nothing. Maybe even a stock swap in some worthless company they want to get rid of. on. [/QB]

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I suspect he would be breaching a fiduciary duty to the company. Plus, any fundamental corporate change would have to be voted on by shareholders.

Of course, that would be in a perfect would.

Who knows. Im still going to give the benefit of the doubt. What else can i give? (certainly not more money!) lol.
 

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
LOL, thats um...a perfect worLD.
 

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Posted by realmoney2 on :
 

quote:

---

Originally posted by Monopoly Money:

quote:

---

Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

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Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

---

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.

---

First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

---

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??
 

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Posted by suzainiee on :
 
Q's PR's have always been written in a "gobbled-gooked" style with occasional direct statements.

Why is there so little info on the web?

Is the PR a deliberate attempt to mislead and confuse or just more sloppy composition?

Or, is it just another attempt to buy more time?

If so, more time for what?

Could the mysterious Mr. Fan be a relative or___?

Will a PR be released soon that will clear the haze surrounding QBID?

This, of course, is just more speculation......

Unfortunately for us, we seem to always have more questions than answers.

Jen's Australia news is good news--here's hoping for more great news ahead and speculation about how high will it go.

GLTA
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
not to argue with anyone but i see the for sale domain as well.

it is not taking me where i believe you want it to take us.

try reposting it

maybe there is a spelling mistake in the url.

as i said it takes me to a domain for sale as well.

i know i was to that website yesterday and seen what you are trying to show us.

Rod

quote:

---

Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:

quote:

---

Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

---

Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

---

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.

---

First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

---

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
not to argue with anyone but i see the for sale domain as well.

it is not taking me where i believe you want it to take us.

try reposting it

maybe there is a spelling mistake in the url.

as i said it takes me to a domain for sale as well.

i know i was to that website yesterday and seen what you are trying to show us.

Rod

quote:

---

Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

---

Originally posted by Monopoly Money:

quote:

---

Originally posted by realmoney2:

quote:

---

Originally posted by George:
See:
www.patentedproducts.com/tw

???whats that got to do with Best Prop Holding Group ??? It is a website that is for sell and has a search engine placeholder on it....

---

??? what don't you get ??? Go back and read. Someone said he was fictitious. He is not.

---

First of all that site tells me absolutely nothing. Here is the lookup infor for the site (the one time i could find something)
Registrant:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US

Domain Name: PATENTEDPRODUCTS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
brokerage*buydomains.com

Domain created on 10-Mar-2002
Domain expires on 10-Mar-2007
Last updated on 08-Mar-2006

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

This tells me nothing, and has absolutely nothing to do with Taiwan. Second i wasent trying to prove or disprove the validity of his caiams, however in largly english speaking area, that Taiwan is, you would at least see something with his name in some way shape or form. And even if it was his "American" name, if he was as well respected as it is claimed, his company would be mentioned somewhere. So far no site from Taiwan or China has heard of this company, i have check government company registrations and localized business magazines and it has turned up nothing. I contacted a few of these sites and probably will not get a reply, if at all until late tonight.

Also scanned through all the INT'L ticket sybols for anything related to Best Prop Holing Group, the "BEST" i could come up with are these:
BESOQ.PK BEST PRODUCTS INC
BPP.VX BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BPP.L BPP HOLDINGS PLC
BHG.BE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.DE BIOTECH HOLDINGS
BHG.F BIOTECH HOLDINGS
2515-TAI Taiwan BES ENGINEERING TWD10

Nothing else even comes close that i can figure out. Is appears the more i dig the less and less honest the PR appears to be. Of course we really never had a lot of honesty coming from Frank's PR's, you had to take them with a grain of salt. But again, if he is a well respected business man in the area, there should be "SOMETHING" about him or his company. I will keep digging and see if i can find anything, but as of right now i dosent look very good as to the validity of the information.

---

You have to enter it into your browser, not click on the link. It does not say anything about being for sale. It is a website with Lloyd Fan listed as a point of contact, based in Taiwan, thus proving he is real, which was the point of the post in the first place. Do you think I would post it up there if it was going to bring you to a website for sale??

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quote:

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Originally posted by imakmony2005:
So PT, You think that email was to strong. I was trying to get right to the hart of it.lol

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and one more

http://www.tradesources.com/gmp/en/catalog/prod_details.jsp?catalogId=GPC68FF2FD954F7
 

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Posted by STATX on :
 
from PlanetOut.. >Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment.<
going into the Gay Games what is Fan to do with no experience in television/advertising..??? Makes sense he pulls in someone with experience and size to handle the games.. still see him going the product sell platform where he has the expertise.. Question is WHO does he buddy up with now that Q has lost respect in the media market??
http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2006/03/08/1
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I hope Fan fixes this mess!!!!!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah the websites are there PT but I've been trying to get business news or PR's from the chinese business media mentioning any of Lloyd Fan's previous accomplishments with his current and/or previously owned companies. Just trying to find out more information about him. lol
 

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Posted by Alek2 on :
 
I remember when Imakemoney went out to the studio, everyone here thought he knew everything and was very nice and polite to him, probably was bombarded with PM's,,,,,

I know I asked him for his opinion...

The response was: "I liked what I had seen and I am buying more"


Prfttttt.......
Imak, I dont' know what they showed you there, boy they washed you with QBIDicide.
 

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Posted by noah129 on :
 
so it seems some are adding shares i wish i had the guts to add more at these prices but im sad to say this qbidiot has lost a bit of faith. im still holding onto all my shares but the fear of the dreaded reverse split is lingering strong in my mind. i truly hope fan can fan away the smell of franks attempted disaster to shareholders. frank really pulled a number on us i am kinda surprised we havent heard of a shareholder with some real bucks putting the hurt on frank with lawsuits about false info. im not saying we have any proof as we all know due to the lack of transparency that we basically know nothing. but all the comments about profitability and buybacks ect.......ect........ ect......... really urks me.

good luck to all and please any and all info and dd is greatly appreciated by me and many others. please q give me a few reasons to buy more shares. how i would love to have 20 million more if only this had a chance to run again.

40 million on lockdown.
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
i wouldnt add shares until after the reverse split
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Any guesses on what the rs will be?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I'd rather guess we're not going to have one.
 

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Posted by 2crazynuts on :
 
Well I finished reading all 8 pages of speculation some good and plausible, some a little far fetched. But some good comes from open disscusion of any scenario, it makes us all THINK.
My thoughts and only my uneducated opinion is that I will hold just as I have since Feb. 04 until there is a factual dialog from QBID. I don't buy or sell on specualation and I refuse to start now. As for an Audit...any audit released now that has been derived from Frank's promised Audit would be worthless. A new and complete audit would have to be done before I would believe any part of it.To much has changed since the audit and no one knows what the truth is we have all been lied to many times.
If I lose my entire investment which is minor compared to many on this board I will survive to invest in something else.
I knew the risk and I took it of my own free will, I trusted Frank just like many of you and we all knew it was a risky adventure with a chance for big rewards.
I'm holding tight and hoping for the best...hope it works for all of us.....John
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Could this be our Mr Fan, with a phd from University of Queensland?
(gotta be a joke in that one somewhere )


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2000/06/16/40225
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
You and me both!

quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
I'd rather guess we're not going to have one.

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Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Alek2
Member


Member Rated:
posted March 08, 2006 09:33 PM
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I remember when Imakemoney went out to the studio, everyone here thought he knew everything and was very nice and polite to him, probably was bombarded with PM's,,,,,

I know I asked him for his opinion...

The response was: "I liked what I had seen and I am buying more"


Prfttttt.......
Imak, I dont' know what they showed you there, boy they washed you with QBIDicide.

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Real Estate and Stocks All the way.

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Posts: 158 | From: Toronto | Registered: Jun 2005
?????????????????WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 
wow i just checked my account and i finally sold 275000 *.0001. only put it up like 3 weeks ago. maybe things are looking up.. hehe not
 

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Posted by manfromjax on :
 
How much is the QTN studio worth? Is it worth more then what Mr Fan is paying for the shares? Did he get all of it at a bargin price.

I have a feeling that Mr Fan ONLY wants the studio and it equipement. He wants it to start another Home Shopping type network to sell his products. Why else would a manufacturer buy a TV station????

But I really don'y know anything, just a guess.
 

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Posted by Slug on :
 
manfromjax, If those were his intentions, he wouldn't waste time or money to do so. He would've announced this immediately IMO.

My feeling is a combination of the two, shopping channel at night, gay channel during the day. again IMO.
 

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Posted by SingleDad703 on :
 
With a specific customer base (GLBT), that has X-Ammount of disposable income. The best plan for him IMO would be to keep the channel the way it is, and choose GLBT oriented products for filler commercials.

Just what my thoughts are.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
SD703 thats more like it. And then of course if that didn't work because of the damage that has occured, well then yes, I could see him converting into another shopping network.

Still waiting to see official proof per WA of the transition.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Here is the information again if anyone would like to check the corporation status for themselves.

360-753-7115 (option 5) or press 0 for live operator.

TMM UBI 601 047 757
QTN UBI 602 391 767
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
You can get a pizza!

quote:

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Originally posted by qlooz:
wow i just checked my account and i finally sold 275000 *.0001. only put it up like 3 weeks ago. maybe things are looking up.. hehe not

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I found a link to Patent Products Inc and lloyd Fan... not much. It has contract number for Lloyd, 60 employees, email, company address, etc. I still dont know what the hell or how the hell he is making money selling hooks and straps....link below:

http://www.sportingb2b.com/work/b_index.jsp?supplier=1696&industry=SG
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
This is one of Lloyds products... I wonder if Frankie the Fraudster got one of these as token of appreciation and consolation price as he was given the boot. I can see it now... infomercial on QTN late at nite for the POGO SEAT LOL!


 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
That thing looks painful.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
LOL!

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That thing looks painful.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
I found a link to Patent Products Inc and lloyd Fan... not much. It has contract number for Lloyd, 60 employees, email, company address, etc. I still dont know what the hell or how the hell he is making money selling hooks and straps....link below:

http://www.sportingb2b.com/work/b_index.jsp?supplier=1696&industry=SG

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You would be amazed, I actually own a set of those hooks and straps!

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=826-100&categoryid=24775
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ya he did but apparently he uses it upside down

quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
This is one of Lloyds products... I wonder if Frankie the Fraudster got one of these as token of appreciation and consolation price as he was given the boot. I can see it now... infomercial on QTN late at nite for the POGO SEAT LOL!

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Daaamn PT!

Canada 8, United States 6 ...ouch!!!

8-6 victory in the first round of the inaugural World Baseball Classic.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 

 

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Posted by Optimus Prime on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by SingleDad703:
With a specific customer base (GLBT), that has X-Ammount of disposable income. The best plan for him IMO would be to keep the channel the way it is, and choose GLBT oriented products for filler commercials.

Just what my thoughts are.

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I agree with this. Makes business sense to me. IMO.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
aahahaha....it ain't over yet!
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 
Anyone have a brief summary of the trading history today?

Ameritrade Streamer showed a .0002 trade at 11:36, but Ameritrade's LAST TRADE chart shows no trades above .0001. And the Yahoo charts show a straight flat line, all at .0002.

Anyone have accurate info? Thanks.
 

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Posted by milliam on :
 
I show 2 trades at .0002. One at 11:37 for 1,800,000 and one at 11:36 for 900,000. There might be more before those, be they are off my screen now.

I wonder if there's just a lot of tape painting going on. I believe King Crimson found some weird volume stuff happening the other day. Here's my scenario...the tape gets painted throughout the day to make it look like huge volume is trading, but at the end of the day, there's only been a tenth of that much actually traded.

Now, why would this happen...QBID trying to buyback shares? QBID trying to sell shares? Who knows at this point!

Milliam
 

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Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
It would be good to get news about something. I don't think these user mgmt types would like it if somebody took a lot of their money then locked them in a sound proof room for 6 months.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by milliam:
I show 2 trades at .0002. One at 11:37 for 1,800,000 and one at 11:36 for 900,000. There might be more before those, be they are off my screen now.

I wonder if there's just a lot of tape painting going on. I believe King Crimson found some weird volume stuff happening the other day. Here's my scenario...the tape gets painted throughout the day to make it look like huge volume is trading, but at the end of the day, there's only been a tenth of that much actually traded.

Now, why would this happen...QBID trying to buyback shares? QBID trying to sell shares? Who knows at this point!

Milliam

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quote:

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Originally posted by Bottomliner:
Anyone have a brief summary of the trading history today?

Ameritrade Streamer showed a .0002 trade at 11:36, but Ameritrade's LAST TRADE chart shows no trades above .0001. And the Yahoo charts show a straight flat line, all at .0002.

Anyone have accurate info? Thanks.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
I've got a few million I'll sell for .0002 as a lot. Any takers?

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See, I would take it, but I can get filled at 50 million if I want at 0.0001 within 3 minutes probably.....


 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Board pushed at gay TV channel
Larry Buhl, GAY.COM/PlanetOut Network
Thursday 9 March, 2006 11:26 |
From uk.gay.com

After gay TV stations folded in the UK and other European countries, the problems for American channel Q Television Network continue to grow.

Less than a month after laying off most of its staff, the financially troubled QTN, one of three television networks in the United States with primarily lesbian and gay content, has ousted its top management in hope of pulling itself back into the black.

The company reported on Tuesday that investor Lloyd Fan, who was recently brought in as president, would replace company founder Frank Olsen as chairman and CEO of QTN and parent Triangle Multi-Media. In addition, Fan has replaced the board and top management, including Olsen and other top executives.

"Effective today, all Triangle Multi-Media Limited and QTN officers and board of directors have resigned their positions and have relinquished all responsibilities and affiliations," said a prepared statement from Q. "Details of the new management infrastructure, with an emphasis on both television and finance industry, will be forthcoming."

QTN is available to 3 million cable subscribers in several cities, but is still not available in many major markets.

The company came under fire last month for laying off the majority of its staff while owing them a month's pay, leading to speculation that the company would go under. At that time, a spokesman for the network told GAY.com that Q would stay afloat and that the new management structure would ultimately succeed.

"I am committed to building an exceptionally strong, experienced management team, fortifying QTN's business partnerships and strengthening the network's commitment to providing high-quality, engaging television programming focused on the GLBT community," Fan said in a prepared statement.

Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment.

QTN executives refused to comment for this story.

However, laid-off employees -- who have still not been paid for the month of January -- have a lot to say.

Vanessa Mayer, a graphics generator who was laid off February 1st, lays the blame for the company's hard times on Olsen's management skills. "The only reason the changes are happening is that Q needed money and nobody would give them money with Frank (Olsen) as the head of the company," she told GAY.com.

"It's funny that they say Q's new emphasis will be on television and finance," Mayer said. "They're a television network. What was their emphasis before?"

Jane Bloom, a production coordinator, told GAY.com that even though they are waiting to be paid for the entire month of January, she and most of the former staffers have moved on.

"I think it's not a question of getting hired back, but a matter of when we get the money they owe us," she said. Bloom ended up taking a survival job at a health club while looking for television production work.

Less than 10 out of more than 100 laid-off staffers have been asked back to the network, and only as independent contractors at less than their previous wages.

Both Mayer and Bloom say the consensus among the still-close staffers is that nothing Q Television could do at this point would undo the damage to its reputation.

"Nobody with any TV experience is going anywhere near Q to look for a job," Mayer said. Bloom concurred: "Almost everyone I've interviewed with say they heard about what happened at Q and that it's very screwed up."
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Ouch.
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
This two statements pretty much hits the nail on the head...

"The only reason the changes are happening is that Q needed money and nobody would give them money with Frank (Olsen) as the head of the company," she told GAY.com.

"It's funny that they say Q's new emphasis will be on television and finance," Mayer said. "They're a television network. What was their emphasis before?"
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
They should interview us.
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Now there is an idea.

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
They should interview us.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
I would rather have somebody with deep pockets, or business/financial knowledge running TMM/QTN. They can always hire the "right" people to run the network, rather than to have to have Frankie the Fraudster at the helm. We saw how far it got us. Frankie the Fraud may have had the GLBT "wet dream" (his words), but he obviously did not have what it takes to run a business. I personally think he squandered all of the money because of poor business decisions, including elaborate parties, parades, sponsorships and lawsuits. Furthermore, I never did believe the story about the investor dying, that sounded too fishy. Kinda, like, the dog at my homework or the dog at the audit.

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I suppose the "at least it isn't Frank" argument is my only ray of hope right now. I'm down 93.75%!
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I wonder if he got "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" before he left? LOL
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 
So just out of curiosity .... has anyone heard from

Davidjanas? or what ever his name was?
 

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Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Ok, I can't stop thinking of the "poop" hitting the Fan.
 

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Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Blackwidow, Hopefully we will be danceing the FANDANGO soon, Dew AND GB can i do the interview i swear ill be good.
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 
well, here's my effort to mr fan...let you know of any response....lol


Mr. Fan:

i speak for myself only, but be assured that there are many with these thoughts.
as long time investors/shareholders, we are understandably interested and concerned about the status and direction of this enterprise.

first, welcome to our nightmare. i mean that with the most positive of intentions. there are many questions, and i am sure you will be addressing them with the utmost haste. for now, know that there are long-suffering shareholders glad to see your arrival, and eager for your success.

i am sure that for you to have gotten involved with this entity (Triangle Multimedia and it's various holdings), you would have to know the corporate and financial structure of this entity. else you wouldn't know what you are getting for YOUR investment in this entity, let alone where you are starting from.

the folks that have funded this public entity, the shareholders, are entitled to know that information. on behalf of all the shareholders, i would request that you release to us that known information.

there are many directions all of this can go. we will be awaiting your thoughts and plans for the future.

i am a long-time investor/shareholder and wish you the best of luck and great success. thank you for your time and hopeful response. contact me anytime.


sincerely,
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes but a good business man knows to hire the right people for the job, AND let them look after it.


Frank hired the right people but would not allow them to do what they do best.

Frank had his fingers into too much that he really should have let his tallent do.

that was his big failure.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...

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Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
nice letter KC

i have not heard back from mine yet.

rod
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I hope you're right! I'm looking forward to the next month or two to see what develops.

quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
yes but a good business man knows to hire the right people for the job, AND let them look after it.


Frank hired the right people but would not allow them to do what they do best.

Frank had his fingers into too much that he really should have let his tallent do.

that was his big failure.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
"Lloyd Fan runs Best Prop Holding Group and has a long career in corporate finance, manufacturing, international trade and patenting throughout Asia, according to a company press release. However, he has no experience in television or entertainment."

Things are looking better and better...

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quote:

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:

quote:

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Now I do have one question and it is, has anyone checked on the A/S lately to see if they have increased or decreased? I am now sitting on the sidelines awaiting FANtastic news. I hadn't seen that one so I thought I would use it.

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Good to see you BWB. Here is the information again if you would like to check the corporation status.

360-753-7115 (option 5) or press 0 for live operator.

TMM UBI 601 047 757
QTN UBI 602 391 767

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quote:

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
aahahaha....Hey someone found Frank enjoying his retirement.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10087218

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lol here is the post card


 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Too funny ain't PT haha...I died man!
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
A PR in the morning would be GREAT! I am ready to find out if QBID will turn around or will it just HIT THE FAN....LOL(sorry )

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point.

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rich735:
A PR in the morning would be GREAT! I am ready to find out if QBID will turn around or will it just HIT THE FAN....LOL(sorry )

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
For what it is worth. There is a conference call taking place right now with Mr. Fan, Richard Brown and other partners of "Q". It is my understanding that hopefully we will get some news by Friday. What the news will be, who knows but as Richard stated he is being optimistic as this point.

The call has been in progress for about 2hrs at this tme.

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Yes it would!!!! Richard indicated that he wanted to have a PR by this Friday. But what kind of PR will it be???
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
any kind of pr, other then a r/s, would make me very happy, heh
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
I agree with moosehead. Any pr that tells me what Fan is going to do. Not including an r/s!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
A PR announcing a buyback or reduction of the AS, OS, or an invitation to a steak dinner won't mean didly. imo

There is way too much negative news out there now that would stop any new investor from investing at this point.

Maybe Fan will do one of two things. Along with the usual PR'd blah blah blah, he'll either announce to have an audit ready in 30-60 days...or he'll announce the r/s and start from scratch.

But thats just my rookie thought.
 

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Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
you guys think their will be any way to "clean-up" qtv's reputation?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Well now that depends on how much money Fan wants to spend.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its already cleaned up lol Frank is gone. lol

that is a load of cleansing in itself.

but he is going to have to settle out the debts of the workers that where layed off, to gain any type of credibility in the industry. If he doesnt do that, then he might as well pull the plug right now.


now im off to bed

nighty night.

Rod
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 
a letter to richard. i attached my fan letter for him to forward in case other efforts fail.

good luck all...


richard--

well, thought i would send this off to you to see if you could forward this to our new fearless leader. as far as i know, you are still our 'IR' guy right?

speaking of which, when can we expect the paperwork to be filed with the state of Washington installing Fan, and removing Olsen?

then there are the other questions...audit, share structure, gay games, etc.
soon?

ok. will you please forward this along? i'll add as attachment fan1.
again, thanks for your time and efforts.


sincerely,

[ March 10, 2006, 07:23: Message edited by: King Crimson ]
 

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Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !
 

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Posted by JimS on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !

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I tend to agree that we will see an r/s but I don't understand why you suggest that they might be issuing of millions more shares. Why do you think that might happen?
Thanks
Jim
 

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
I think The Q could turn it around. Remember, The Q was only in 3 million homes (potentially) and still not many major markets. It wont take too much to garner new good will if it is shown that the new management really has cleaned house, become transparent, and starts producing some good shows.

As for anyone not working there...i dont buy that. If they can pay, folks will work. And if potential employees are sure the entire management structure has been gutted...which it looks as if it has...then I think The Q can turn the corner. It wont be easy, but it will make for good message board speculation and chatter.
 

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Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
i have a question,

Did Frank really convert that 53% of, Guessing, 15 billion shares into preferred shares. And if so where is that bundle of preferred shares now?

I think if we can get those questions answered we can have a decent speculation as to whats going to happen with the share structure in the near future.

*follow the money*
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
same story different spin...

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_1460.php

MANAGEMENT SHAKEUP AT Q TV

Gay Dallas televisionary Jack E. Jett (Jack Pinson) bade good riddance to the outgoing management at the Q Television Network in e-mails sent to gay newspapers this week. Known for launching “The Jack. E. Jett Show” on DCTV, a cable access program, Jett started working with Q Television in 2004, when the network was based in Haltom City, Texas. In August 2005, administration and production offices moved to Burbank, Calif., and the network started luring higher-profile guests and co-hosts, including Reichen Lehmkuhl (winner of “The Amazing Race IV”) and comedian Sandra Bernhard, pictured, who served as Jett’s co-host on a talk show called “The Queer Edge.”
In the first week of February, the network notified its employees that all productions were going on a two-week hiatus. Without first consulting Jett, his production crew was fired. The two weeks eventually drifted into four — leaving both Jett and Bernhard unpaid and in limbo.

On Tuesday, a press statement announced that Q Television founder Frank Olsen had been replaced by Lloyd Fan, who will assume the role of chairman and CEO of Q Television Network and Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Q TV’s parent company. New management will be announced in the coming weeks, according to the statement.

After receiving the news, Jett said, “The company fell apart due to poor management — not due to the employees. We were all working our butts off to make this work. The people who created nothing but havoc are now gone, as I understand it. My hope is that they will right the wrong and move forward.”

— Daniel A. Kusner
 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
i have a question,

Did Frank really convert that 53% of, Guessing, 15 billion shares into preferred shares. And if so where is that bundle of preferred shares now?

I think if we can get those questions answered we can have a decent speculation as to whats going to happen with the share structure in the near future.

*follow the money*

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quote:

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Originally posted by deepockets:
.0001 that's the bid.

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quote:

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Originally posted by deepockets:
491,000,000 today

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quote:

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Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Dont forget ! Frankie promised us that so long as He was CEO of QTN there would be NO REVERSE SPLIT. WELL GUESS WHAT ??

Fan is the NEW CEO.

I SMELL an R/S coming QUICK ! I also suspect an ISSUANCE of Millions MORE SHARES.

Hold ON to your BOOTS.

Earth_Shaker OUT !

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quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:


L2 MM lineup:
BID: 0000 x 0
ASK: 0001 X 9

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Sheeesh!...now there's a wall hanger.

Just hope we can all look back one day and smile at it.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by manfromjax:
Do you think Frank well give us shareholder a GoodBye messsage about how he fought for us?

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He did already!...didn't you see the post card he sent.
 

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Posted by deepockets on :
 
Does Q stil have the games in Chicago? Sorry, I have been gone for a while.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
"It's all in the belly" hahaha
 

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Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Q is still listed on the gay games website as the tv source for the games. Supposedly they paid for the rights already, but thats anybodies guess.

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Originally posted by deepockets:
Does Q stil have the games in Chicago? Sorry, I have been gone for a while.

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Posted by bottomfishing on :
 
i agree that there will be an R/S at some point in the future. but Fan is supposed to be financially savyy, and anyone who knows about finance knows that an RS with a declining stock will just lead to the stock declining. i could see him doing an RS after the stock starts climbing back up. we'll see though. if fan wants the stock to be listed, he's gonna have to do one though, it's just a matter of at what price he does it at.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
historically r/s happen when the price is locked at rock bottom, to allow for some movement in the price.

I would say that we are right where we need to be for one to occur.

its not happening today

typically they will have a midnight meeting of the board, vote for a r/s and have it executed with a symbol change prior to the opening of trading for the day.

no warning no nothing.

they will not tell you they are doing it. it just happens.

every morning that we are still trading at these levels under this symbol, is good news to me.

but one morning soon we could be experiencing this.

I would love to hear a couple of prs come from Mr Fan, so that we can get an idea of what his plans are before this happens.

Rod
 

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Posted by pappy on :
 
Hey all
What type of share structure dose it take to be a to trade in the Dow or Nasdaq or any other exchange that we could grow to.
 

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Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
if there is a reverse split and they change the symbol, what happens to our QBID shares?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
You will still have those shares under new symbol.
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Hopefully it won't be a 19,987,600 to 1 r/s, right QBID'n?


 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey watch your language!
 

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Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
If it is anticipated that a r/s would result in an increase in the pps, wouldn't now be a good time to accumulate shares? This is my first stock so I have alot to learn. Been holding Q since it was at .028 and have managed to average down to .0012 with 7.6m shares but my account is still at a 90%+ loss.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
historically r/s happen when the price is locked at rock bottom, to allow for some movement in the price.

I would say that we are right where we need to be for one to occur.

its not happening today

typically they will have a midnight meeting of the board, vote for a r/s and have it executed with a symbol change prior to the opening of trading for the day.

no warning no nothing.

they will not tell you they are doing it. it just happens.

every morning that we are still trading at these levels under this symbol, is good news to me.

but one morning soon we could be experiencing this.

I would love to hear a couple of prs come from Mr Fan, so that we can get an idea of what his plans are before this happens.

Rod

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Its a gamble DMEK25.
 

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Posted by pappy on :
 
If we have a reverse split aprox 5000 to 1 that would put us in a reasonable float IMO.
 

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Posted by DMEK25 on :
 
when i first bought this stock, there was someone collecting $10 from everyone to go check out Q, i think his name was cash. there was also someone named diana that was very active on the board. does anyone know what happened to them?
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Check the food stamp line.
 

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Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Hardly, I think "like a daughter to Frank", pumper queen Diana, did ok for HERSELF.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Yeah didn't you notice?...thats Diana in the post card behind Frank. lol
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Someone should Photoshop that pogo bicycle seat thingy in the sand next to him.

Anyone bored enough?



 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available.

Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder.

Regards,


Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
617-314-7379
staff*equityrelations.com
www.equityrelations.com
Please visit our website for disclaimers and information
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
That sounds familiar...

"I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money!
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
I think Lloyd should hire a real Investor Relations company/person. Richard Brown is nothing but a joke and is as professional and credible as Frankie the Fraudster. Richard lost ALL credibility with me when he went on RB after a poster called Fistula... That is not what real investor relations professionals do, IMO. Therefore, I am hoping that Lloyd will fire Richard Brown and Equity Relations SOON.
 

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available.

Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder.

Regards,


Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
617-314-7379
staff*equityrelations.com
www.equityrelations.com
Please visit our website for disclaimers and information

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Doc
When did you receive this?
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Jennifer: I received that e-mail about 2 hours ago from Richard
 

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Posted by Ligge on :
 
I am going to be in Palm Springs in two weeks, Is anything still housed there or did everything move to Burbank? I would love to poke my head in to at the very least get a feel for attitudes and overall atmosphere under the new management.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
What ever or who ever, just get a feel for things and let us know Ligge. gl lol
 

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Posted by Robdizo on :
 
So is qbid gonna bust a r/s and trickle back down to .0001? I have a gut feeling about this one and its not a good one.
 

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Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
 

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Originally posted by Robdizo:
So is qbid gonna bust a r/s and trickle back down to .0001? I have a gut feeling about this one and its not a good one.

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Most do after a reverse split.
 

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Posted by GoodFella on :
 
I was just reading on the PLNI thread and this message reminded me of the old QBID... all you have to do is : replace Turek with Olsen... Semco-Prmold with Cox and RCN.. and we got QBID

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Originally posted by needhelp:
Maybe Turek is finally learning not to put out misleading PR's and concentrate on the business. I'm still waiting word from that liar about Audit, Buyback then reissuance of new shares with no PR telling us, Semco and Promold finalized deals. Theses are legit questions that the other thread use to try to answer but all threads have cheerleaders who don't look at the score because their eyes are shut. Is their an audit? He's been talking about it for ovcer a year now. I believe in the product not the man running the company.

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quote:

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Originally posted by DMEK25:
If it is anticipated that a r/s would result in an increase in the pps, wouldn't now be a good time to accumulate shares? This is my first stock so I have alot to learn. Been holding Q since it was at .028 and have managed to average down to .0012 with 7.6m shares but my account is still at a 90%+ loss.

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Posted by Wangdo on :
 
coverage from the washington blade.. Jett says they spent 100k at sundance


http://www.washblade.com/2006/3-10/arts/television/qtn.cfm


Gay TV network faces financial crisis
QTN names new CEO, as staffers claim they are not being paid

By GREG MARZULLO
Friday, March 10, 2006


Q Television Network, one of three national gay and lesbian TV cable channels, announced March 7 that it is replacing its chief executive officer, amid accusations from at least one on-air personality that he and his staff are not being paid.

Lloyd Fan, who served as interim president, will take over as QTN’s new chair and CEO succeeding founding CEO Frank Olsen, according to a news release. Officials from QTN repeatedly declined to comment, deferring to the release.

The release also states that QTN is undergoing a companywide overhaul, including the creation of an entirely new board of directors and the replacement of QTN officers. All board members were relieved of their responsibilities as of March 7.

In early February, QTN laid off much of its production staff and filming stopped for a week. Although production resumed shortly thereafter, paychecks have still gone unpaid, according to Jack E. Jett, co-host of QTN’s pop culture show "Queer Edge."

"The people that worked on my show have not been paid," Jett says. "I haven’t gotten a check in two months."

A statement issued on Feb. 23 from the company’s then-CEO Olsen stated that the entire company was being restructured.

"This could take 3-4 weeks, but everyone will be paid and brought up to date," read the statement. "We deeply regret any inconvenience or hardship this has caused our staff and the gay community."

Jett said the missed paychecks created financial difficulties for his young production team members.

"These kids are living with mom, working off debts," he said. "Some people were not able to pay bills or buy groceries."

JETT HOSTS A weekday show that frequently features bisexual entertainer Sandra Bernhard as a guest star. The show provides programming dedicated to counter culture guests, including musicians, sex workers, actors and performance artists.

"Queer Edge" had a production crew of eight people, which by industry standards is small. Jett said his team was totally dedicated to the show, even coming to work after they were told there were no forthcoming paychecks.

"One of the ladies that runs the place told us to all leave, because [the unpaid workers] were considered a liability," said Jett.

According to Jett, management watched the newly unemployed staff leave the building, ensuring that nothing was taken off the premises, including samples of their own work.

"We’re all a very tight-knit group," he said. "Suddenly, you’re made to feel like a nuisance."

Jett said he never saw the current financial difficulties coming. According to the show host, QTN spent $100,000 on a party at this year’s Sundance Film Festival in Salt Lake City, Utah during the last week of January. By the first week of February, everyone was told programming was on hiatus and paychecks weren’t being handed out.

Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-media Limited, launched in September 2004, and "Queer Edge" debuted on the network at the same time. The station is available to the public through subscription and programming runs 24 hours every day. The channel is available through Cox, RCN, Time Warner and Bright House networks in Birmingham, Ala., Eureka, Calif., San Diego, Calif., San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and all of Massachusetts, and through satellite with C-Band Intelsat. Both Cox and RCN are minority cable providers in D.C. and northern Virginia. Comcast, the area’s major provider, does not carry the channel.

The station airs gay- and lesbian-related movies, documentaries, news programming and human interest shows. QTN is also the official network of Gay Games VII that take place in Chicago during July.
 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
So Reichen is still with Q huh?
 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 
On Q Live just came on and they announced as part of the show that today is Friday, March 10th, so this is a live show too and looks to be running as usual.

These are the two hosting the show (Robbie Laughlin and Saskia Webber).

 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
So Reichen is still with Q huh?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
nice good too hear. thanks Sam

has anything been on for ON Q live?

if so has there been any mention of the new CEO?

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sam1959:
I am watching the Reichen show and they just said that this is the second day that Dr. Leslie Debrier (the good looking red-head) is back. Maybe things are starting to get better at QTN with Mr. Fan in charge ... On Q Live was just a normal show (nothing really notable). There was no mention of the new CEO.

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Thanks, Sam. Good info. Appears that Fan is trying to get Q back on track.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
Lloyd Fan has assumed the role of CEO for QTN and Triangle Multimedia. He is currently mapping out his immediate strategy for rebuilding management and the board. I will be discussing shareholder concerns with him each night for the foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available. Note: This email will be sent to more than one shareholder. Regards, Richard Brown

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Thanks, Doc. Good news.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That sounds familiar... "I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money!

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GB
It's true we've heard this all before ... but from a different "mouth". So, let's give the new guy a chance to prove himself.
 

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Posted by Rich735 on :
 
If our new CEO turns QBID around,I will start a FAN club!!! LOL
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Thanks Sam.

So you did hear them talking of "current events"?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey Rich, if he r/s, thats not all you will start. Unfortunately you'll have to start buying and building your share count up as well. And that thought just burns my ass.

Oh well....if it happens I just hope the share price cheap.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
... alot is going to depend on how they do the r/s. if it only effects the outstanding shares and not the approved shares, then it is not a good thing for us. if they reduce the A/S accordingly and dont dilute anymore then the r/s could be good for us. it will all depend on what the intent of the r/s is for. for examble, a 35,000- 1 r/s should increase the value of each share to about $3.50 a share. with an A/S of 10 million shares. this would allow them to move to another exchange if they could hold that value.
but if they where to increase the A/S again and start selling shares, then they are going to see the price drop off rapidly and we will be back to these levels rather fast. there is a lot to consider. there is no guaranty as to how it would go down, but historically speaking, a r/s usually does not have a good effect on the stock holders. we are however in a situation where I dont believe that they have any other choice but to r/s. it would cost this gentleman 10- 15 million to buyback and retire enough to make a buyback worth while, and that would be over and above the money he had to invest to get his majority stake in the company. anything is possible, but this is very unlikely in my honest opinion. Rod

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Good points, Rod.

But I don't believe a reverse split is necessary to get Q off the pinksheets, if they just want to move to the OTC Bulletin Board (OB-status). To do that, all they have to do is start reporting honestly. I think this would spike the PPS all by itself.

Many former pinks are now on the OTC-BB and are trading well above a penny. Unfortunately, moving to the OTC-BB doesn't guarentee a PPS spike, but being a reporting company does open the door to many positives.

I believe that moving to a higher exchange such as NASDAQ, however, would require a PPS of at least $1.00 for a continuing period of time. I don't know why Q would want to move any higher than the NASDAQ, since it has as much status as the NYSE, and moving to the American or NYSE would require jumping a lot more hurdles. In my opinion, the NASDAQ should be Q's primary goal ... but not too quickly.

I think Q should just concentrate on being a reporting company as soon as possible, WITHOUT a reverse split. Then let the PPS gravitate to a true value naturally. After regaining corporate credibility, Q can then do what is needed to move from pinksheets to the OTC-BB. After that, it depends on Q's true success. If the Gay Games are good for them, we could see rapid improvement soon afterward.

My theories (and that's all they are) are based on my concern about artificially manipulating the PPS just to move to another exchange. Any manipulation seems a bit dishonest to me, although I understand why it can be necessary.

But for now, any manipulation of Q's reputation is a negative. All they really have to do is confirm their status as an emerging network and prove they have the horsepower to pull it off. Frank and staff apparently were the weakest links in Q's success, and our future with Q now depends on Fan's honesty and his ability to fix a lot of problems. The last thing I want to see is more artificial repairs for the sake of appearances.

I still like Frank's dream, although it appears he screwed it up. Let's hope that the dream was real and that new management can make it happen.

Just my opinion, everyone. I still own shares and will continue to think positively because dumping shares now does not make sense to me. Therefore, I will continue to "believe" my Q investment has a chance for success. But I also won't be buying new shares until I see a light at the end of the tunnel ... and can confirm that light is not a freight train heading my way.

GL to all.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Bottomliner. that was a great summation.

very nicely written and thought out. I agree with you 100%. i was not considering a move to the OTC when i wrote that message, but you are absolutely right.

just being honest about the books and reporting, even if the company is going through some rough points, is going to yield a higher pps then it is now, just because people can assess thier risks better with the numbers.

right now they have no numbers no info so they have to assume the worst value on the company and hence our current pps.

thanks for taking the time to put that all together and posting.

You are greatly appreciated for your common sense.

Rod
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
man this site has improved a lot with the new server that Bob installed this week.

it is very snappy and fast again.

i started a new thread to thank Bob for doing this and spending the money to keep Allstocks alive and healthy.

here is the link if you want to make comment to bob.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/019818.html


Rod
 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Thanks Sam.

So you did hear them talking of "current events"?

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Sorry. I wasn’t paying real close attention to their conversations, and I’m not very good at current events anyway. One of their guests had “Just come back from Sundance,” and my understanding (from their web site) is that the Sundance Film Festival ended January 29th. That made me wonder if parts of the show had been recorded earlier – but they did announce the date at the beginning of the show as Friday, the tenth of March.
 

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Posted by pappy on :
 
If we had a r/s of 5000-1 asuming the float is 50 bil that would make the float aprox 10 mil which is up there with Microsoft. MSFT has the largest float of any NSYE stock and Q would skyrocket with a float like that imo.
 

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Posted by kilhs on :
 
no the price per share would drop because tha artificial bottom .0001 wont let this stock move to it's true value..000001
 

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Posted by suzainiee on :
 
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.

Frank has pushed us into a situation of perception
over reality--we don't know the o/s or anything other than what is on the air, and the published contracts.

I also agree with bottomliner.

IMO, the best way to build confidence in this
company would be to avoid r/s and open the books.

Providing a detailed financial plan for investors to see strategic steps for a steady increase in the pps would be our new starting point.

That would demonstrate that Mr. Fan is cognizant
of the need to build and to maintain a positive relationship with loyal investors/viewers--present and potential.

Without a Trace ended their show last week with two female lovers kissing. As more networks provide more diverse programing, Q will need to offer more than just programing for a targeted audience.

We are getting more competition every day.......

New CEO's always come in and clean house. A fresh start is expected. This time, how about a fresh start without the causalities?

How they accomplish the restructuring with Q could be equally important as the financial plan.

Fan needs to mend fences and stop the rumor mill!

IMO, he will need to develop a positive relationship within his targeted community and with all other investors, too.

As an example, look at Steve Jobs relationship to Apple investors--they trust him.

Again, IMO, probably two to four years may be needed for QBID to reach its stride. Big business will want to see results after these two years of promises and wild rumors.


Mr. Fan's business experience would include financials, negotiations and client relations,contracts, strategic plans and decisions.

A large part of QBID'S base goes beyond business the as usual.

From information posted on boards and statements from Frank, Q's employees and many of the investors have a personal committment to Q.


Frank's approach was much more about personal promises and much less about business (unfortunately).

Dismissed workers almost always feel a sense of betrayal and anger even with compensation for work--without compensation, think postal.

Aside from financial interventions, there needs to be treatment of the wounds inflicted on them and good-faith efforts to promote trust and healing--that could bring closure to the Frank era.

The last thing that Q needs is constant horror stories circulating from angry past employees and vendors.

We need more than a new chapter--we need a new book that truly values the employees and the investors. We need the stain erased from our reputation.

Even if the employees are paid for their past services, would they want to work there again without actually seeing the books?

Plus, if they were also paid with stocks, an r/s would be just more fuel on the resentment fires.

Can QBID rise from the ashes?

With POSITIVE steps to address all of the issues, it could move past this stumble and draw strength from its problematic past.

Much depends on Mr. Fan's understanding of the complexities of this stock, his values and the depth of his pockets.......


He probably has not had sufficient time to complete an audit or a plan.

Just an acknowledgement of the investors situation and his committment to addressing these issues in a fair, progressive manner could begin the building process.

GLTA
 

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Posted by kilhs on :
 
We do know the share count is 350 bil, and shares are being sold down to .0000 by the owner of the company.
 

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Posted by kilhs on :
 
asuming and agreeing ..................... it will never end.
 

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Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
It's the same Investor Relations guy...

quote:

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Originally posted by Bottomliner:

quote:

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That sounds familiar... "I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money!

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GB
It's true we've heard this all before ... but from a different "mouth". So, let's give the new guy a chance to prove himself.

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.
 

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Posted by JimS on :
 
Well thought out and articulate Jenn. Thanks. BTW, warm (85 degrees) and sunny at the pool today.
 

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Posted by mikensay on :
 
Wow! you've got some great points and some positive "blatant speculation".

The only quesiton I have to the above is what kind of expanded role is Richard having? I thought he worked for another company and just handled the investor relations side of things. Just looking for clarification, is he becoming part of TMM/QTN?


Thanks again for the post JenniferCD10
 

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Posted by noah129 on :
 
regular ol fashion new york style cheese cake pwease
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly"
 

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Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Right on Doc, i'd like to hear from him too.

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly"

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
did anyone that has spoke with Richard ask if Frank has any interest in this still?

is he completely out of the picture?

I would feel better if he is not in the office anymore, i dont care if he still holds shares, i just want him completely out of the picture as far as the operations of the company go.

Rod

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
It's the same Investor Relations guy...

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GB
I understand that Q apparently has the same "messenger" (Richard Brown), but most messengers can only deliver the messages given to them. I have worked in the PR field and have had to say "no comment" many times when I knew a straight answer was needed ... for everyone's sake. So I respect Richard's position and have no problem with his past work.

I know some people have been critical of his IHub posts, but I don't see that as a problem related to his job with Q. Just my opinion, of course.

My main concern now is how well Mr. Fan will communicate with his shareholders ... and when. Like most other shareholders, I feel Frank has treated us like mushrooms--kept in the dark and covered with organic equine fertilizer. I expect much better treatment from Mr. Fan, but only time will tell. Until then, I'm back to waiting ... again ... again ... again.

GL to us all.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
oh i agree but i always find it humourous to ask questions he is not allowed to answer lol

just to get his reaction.

Rod
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends ...

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Jennifer
Very well said. Thanks for your thoughts.
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Jen....good post. However i have some questions. now, as a former shareholder who got out once the sight of massive dillution, and no audit i even STILL think sometimes of getting back in.

this is the thing though....over 100 BILLION shares...300 or so you say A/S? yeah i know they are not O/S but...

ok so we had PRs stating PRIVATE funding...many people felt some big pockets were investing. was that a lie? if it wasnt then why so much financing? maybe i just cant comprehend how expensive it is to get this going. i can not fathom a buyback of shares when the amount is hundreds of billions. its almost another CMKX story...the little company that could.

however, there IS a market and a heartbeat left. personally i thinkthe former CEO was selfish to not be more open with company workers, and shareholders about what was going on. anyone remember that audit that was supposed to come out in what...october/november? remember how everyone was SO ANXIOUS!?

i just dont see how we can slash and cut down this HUGE share count without a R/S. id say between 60 and 75 to 1 is what would need to be done. even then you are still in the good billions. I would like to see no more than 2 billion O/S

how on earth are the big boys going to want to play with sloppy books and more shares than the world population?


i would like to see Q make it, and in fact i may get back in at .0001 just because it cant go ANY LOWER....sounds pretty bad? im actually thinking about investing in a stock because it cant go any lower.....wow

but...Q DOES have potential...yes sir it does. this new guy....what are his past accomplishments? has he ever taken on a challenge under pressure and milked the utters of success?
 

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Bottomliner,
 

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
BL,
What are you doing up so late?
 

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Posted by Jennifercd10 on :
 
Dear Moo,
As a member of the world population, I want to thank you for that udderly delightful post. Just don't milk it too much!
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
wow quiet in here today lol

i mean udderly ridiculous how quiet it is


 

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Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Morning everyone,

As I said before, I am presently sitting on the sidelines on a tangled debate with myself on whether to get back in or not. I think JenCD wrote an excellent article along with both Rod and Doc's opinion. Rod and I have seen transformation from a brutal company to a company with profit and respect for its employees. We work that company. We saw the growing pains including taking out the SR VP who was classified as a tyrant.

Changes where not made overnight, but over 3 year’s time. The difference between who we work for and Q is about 10 billion dollars and growing world wide. Seeing is believing. Mr.Fan does have his work cut out for him and once he has released some strategies, the picture hopefully will become much clearer. As the song says “should I stay or should I go now” which was I believe written by Nash the Slash.

Q can have many possibilities but that string is to be yet unraveled. I have to agree with JenCD that if Mr.Fan has a large vested interest in this company then I am sure he has done his homework, leaving no loopholes for Fat Frank to slither through.

Judging from how the take over was done, it looks like it was a hostel one at that as Fat boy did not do his conversion to preferred shares leaving him some safety and got caught with his pants down. (Not a pretty sight I am sure). If Frank got screwed out of this deal then good for Fan, it’s about time someone turned the table the other way.

The only part of Jen's theory I am wrestling with is the 2 to 3 cents. Based on what is presently at hand, Fan will have a challenge just to get back up to .002 to .003. Although a reverse split does look ineveitable at the moment, it would also create certain death. The showing fo enrichment and value to the shareholders will be where certainy can be built on before an RS can be looked at as a plus.

All this being said, this has now become a wait and see game. Good luck to everyone.
 

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Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Did the edit to make it easier to read.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA

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OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
ahhahahaah
ahahaahahahahaha
ahahaahahhaah
aahahahhahahaahahahah
ahahaahahahaha
aahahahahahahahahahaahahha
ahaahahah

Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

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Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
millertime you need a lesson in public relations.

this was the most ignorant post i have ever seen from someone trying to correct someone else's post.

there was no respect for the person you where trying to correct, and no cooth to your message.

you could have been a lot nicer about it.

You may know how a r/s works but you have absolutely no feelings about others feelings.

this was plain ignorant the way you spilled this out.

your message is right but your delivery plain sucked.

your first line stated you are going to say this as nice as you can, but to me it looks like you went way out of your way to be as ignorant as you could.

a little public relations training would do you marvels.

I was not trying to be nice in this post.

Rod

quote:

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Originally posted by MillerTIME:

quote:

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Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA

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OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
ahhahahaah
ahahaahahahahaha
ahahaahahhaah
aahahahhahahaahahahah
ahahaahahahaha
aahahahahahahahahahaahahha
ahaahahah

Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
millertime you need a lesson in public relations ...

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Rod
Good try but wasted effort, I'm afraid. Learning requires an open mind ... and the ability to retain information. I haven't seen evidence of either lately. But I do have an explanation for his recent post:

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)


 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I wouldn't think this FANdango dance could be done on sand...we're gonna need solid ground.
 

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Posted by King Crimson on :
 
business as usual...


it's still all just a pr...


same lack of information to shareholders--from the company OR the 'investor relations' (using that term about as loosely as it can be used) guy.

i have called on mr. fan to release the information that he knows about this PUBLIC company that WE OWN and have FUNDED.

i have asked richard (ir) brown to behave like an investor relations fellow and tell us when can we expect the paperwork to be filed with the state of Washington installing Fan, and removing Olsen.


i've said here many times that UNCERTAINTY is killing this stock. unless and until some of those uncertainties are removed, this thing won't move. who would "invest" new money into the bottomless abyss of unknown that we are right now?

well, we'll see what (if anything) will be revealed--OFFICIALLY--this week.
...not an email about the "foreseeable future and when appropriate, he will address the shareholders on his business plan. This process will take some time and I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"WHEN APPROPRIATE" ??????? it's not appropriate NOW????????

"process will take some time" ??????? how many more YEARS????????


lol...if it wasn't so sad. good luck all....
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Interesting how Olsen's (Olson's) staunchest supporters, who defended him vehemently as the best thing since sliced bread, opined for hours about how brilliant he is as a business man, and outright attacked anyone who said different, are now refering to him as slimy, a liar, a horrible business man, good riddance, etc. And, interestingly, are now talking up the new guy (Fan) as if he is the latest greatest best thing, when in fact we know little to nothing about him. Call it 'being positive' if you want, only a gay stock could be this over-the-top dramatic.
Too funny!
 

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Posted by imakmony2005 on :
 
Well heres my take Mr Fan just wants his products on tv so he can sell them, so you buy Qtv firer all, and start anew. Now whats the best way to do that? BK QBID, R/S The shares, What will COX,RCN.ECT think of this? Hell they might like it. Mr Fan sells the rights to the gay games to LOGO for some fast cash? Well any thoughts on this one???
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Imak, you may be on to something. Buy for dirt cheap/hostile takeover TMM, part it out, sell the pieces, including rights to gay games, take what's left (QTV) and turn it into a shopping channel. Hmmm, as good a speculation as any...
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Question: Is Mr. Fan a gay businessman. In other words, is a gay television a dream he would like to make happen? If he's not gay will he turn it into another LOGO? Or is he a sharp business man who sees an opportunity? Or is he not a smart business man who got taken by Frank?

OR?
OR?
OR?
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Bottomliner:

quote:

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
millertime you need a lesson in public relations ...

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Rod
Good try but wasted effort, I'm afraid. Learning requires an open mind ... and the ability to retain information. I haven't seen evidence of either lately. But I do have an explanation for his recent post:

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
I have some problems with Jen's post's. First she mentioned that "Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it." I have yet to see anything that is real about Mr. Fan's current companies in Taiwan and their pocket's, nor have i see any information reguarding his respecitibility in Asia.

2) "He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues." How so? because a PR told us so? I have not seen a resume nor have i seen any useful information that points to what the guy has done in the SouthWest region of ASIA.

3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?

Please dont misunderstand, im not tring to bash the girl, i merely wish to see evidence of the claims that she has made. An article from a respectible news source, a financial page of some kinda, id even take a resume at this point. Where are you getting your information from Jen? Because from where i sit now your basing your whole argument off one PR, from a company that is known to put out dishonest PR's reguardless of a new CEO being at the helm or not.

Id would just like to see proof of what you obviously feel so strongly towards. I'm just asking you to back up your claims is all.

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Originally posted by LEO:
Interesting how Olsen's (Olson's) staunchest supporters, who defended him vehemently as the best thing since sliced bread, opined for hours about how brilliant he is as a business man, and outright attacked anyone who said different, are now refering to him as slimy, a liar, a horrible business man, good riddance, etc. And, interestingly, are now talking up the new guy (Fan) as if he is the latest greatest best thing, when in fact we know little to nothing about him. Call it 'being positive' if you want, only a gay stock could be this over-the-top dramatic.
Too funny!

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LEO
Opinions ... like decisions ... must be based on the most current information at hand. At one time, Frank appeared personally and professionally credible and capable of running the Q organization. However, "current information" has altered this perception for many people ... including me.

I still believe that Frank honestly had a dream of creating a network aimed at the GLBT market, but it now appears he did not have the ability to make it happen. So, "current information" has changed my opinion of his management ability. I see nothing incongruous about changing my opinion when there is a reason for doing so. Continuing to support Frank's "brilliance" as a businessman would be much more ludicrous at this point.

As for Mr. Fan: Although I know nothing about him and therefore cannot form an accurate opinion of him, I see him as being "better than" Frank at this point and "better than" means "improvement" and "improvement" means "positive" and ... well, I think you get the picture.

Based on current information (what little than is), I prefer to see the glass half full rather than half empty. But the bottomline is ... I am not making any decisons based on the limited information available at the present time.

By the way, although most of us are not "happy" with Frank right now, we still don't know enough about him and his management of Q to judge him fairly. He may actually be a brilliant man with bad luck ... or whatever. Who knows for sure? Not me.
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Good points MM. I have wondered the same. And I would like to highlight for a moment:

"...3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?..."

Something I've noticed a lot of before are people (Not just Jen) who write that we "must have faith in," "must belive in," need to trust," and many other things I expect to hear when discussing religion, not a stock.

I too would like to know WHY we should TRUST this new guy.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
We shouldnt he has to earn that.
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Exactly PT!!!

And Bottomliner, one of the things I appreciate about your postings is that you remind us that we really don't know enough to know anything. Thanks for helping to 'keep it real'.
 

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Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
JENN, A+ for spelling. B in grammatic structuring. D for factual references.

 

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Posted by Monopoly Money on :
 
Heres another thing that bothers me. There was an article in the chicago tribune (sp) about the ability to search the internet and finding about 2500 CIA employee's, and 10 bases across the nation. 20 + were actual undercover agents. I think the story was run yesturday, and you have to be a registered member to view it now.

The point being if i can google and find CIA operatives yet i can't find a "well respected" business man in Asia, something seems a little fishy to me. Granted CIA probably isnt the best at keeping up with technological changes BUT STILL, something just dosent seem right here.

Chicago Tribune link
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Here's a far-fetched speculation MM; Mr. Fan is another of Olsen's (Olson's) long list of supposed aliases.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
mm my point exactly.

i think it is a very appropriate time for Fan to start talking to us

Rod
 

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Posted by pappy on :
 
At some point Frank had to step aside imo.
Companies like this go thru transitions.I belive Frank has gone as far as he is capable of and its time for someone else to help, someone with expereince at the next level.
My wifes company she worked for just went thru a similar transition the only differance was the transition co bought them out to start with.
They took this co and restructured it so it could be sold to the big boys. They owned it for two years and sold it to Dover Corp.
IMO this is a similar type of sitituation exepct we have a interum CEO instead to help to get to the next level. Hopefuly Fan is the one.
 

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Posted by buckwheatbob on :
 
Dew-it,

I see where you are going with this and can see both sides of the coin. Now one thing I want to bring up is your comments on the PR's and glad you did.

Seeing as PR's are considered legal statements, both Fat Boy and Fan can be held responsible for them. Fan has absorbed the responsibility for Frank writing them. The disclaimer for Q does not disseminate anyone from fraud. This puts the shareholders back in the driver’s seat in a sort of a way. I don’t think he will rape the shareholders as he will be counting on them for support and growth if he plans on getting anywhere.

As we do have a PR we own everything, any attempt to separate them would give us the legal right to a chunk of the subsidiary. If say Fan was to make a new company and just move the assets to clean things up, I am sure the courts would be very interested in the shareholders peril. I don’t think he will do that.

One thing I am still pondering on is having a chat with the IRS and pointing out a few things to them about Frank. I would encourage the rest of you to do the same. Falsely creating expenses is one I am sure they could nail him for. Suspicion would be enough for them to dig there teeth into.I don’t care if they took everything he has or even if they took nothing, but just to put his Fat Azz through the ringer and create some discomfort him would make us all smile.

I can honestly say he was not a dignitary for the GLBT or anyone else. To say he was or is would be an outright insult.

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
Buck,

What I meant was that Lloyd has the option to spin-off QTN from TMM because they are operating as separate companies. This is speculation on my part because we don’t know whether or not QTN is actually an asset of TMM (QBID)… I know, I know, we have PRs from Frankie, but I don’t believe them. We never got an audit that would explain this. Therefore, Lloyd has the option to keep QTN under different ticker (remember the 75K shares) or keep it private and get rid of all the TMM (QBID) "assets” or reverse split QBID shares or whatever. We don’t know what QBID assets/debt are worth. I am looking at this from a purely business perspective, not Frankie’s “dream.” IMO, if Lloyd is a sure fire hard-nose business type, he will rape and pillage and keep what he believes is the money maker and sell off everything else that is not core to his plan. The problem lies with the manner in which Frankie lined up and separated the TMM/QTN organization. Which, I think was an attempt by Frankie to try to and screw everyone, including investors. In the long run it seems Frankie screwed himself. Again, this speculation, God knows what kind of deal Frankie the Fraudster worked with Lloyd.

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Originally posted by LEO:
Imak, you may be on to something. Buy for dirt cheap/hostile takeover TMM, part it out, sell the pieces, including rights to gay games, take what's left (QTV) and turn it into a shopping channel. Hmmm, as good a speculation as any...

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Originally posted by MillerTIME:

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OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
hahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, stopped posting when I asked you to explain who inbut lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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MT, rude???

That was not the word that came to my mind.

Which does remind me, do be careful with the bottom disfiguring laughter!

You may need something to sit on--both you and

your friends--possibly the "we" friends who with you bring dd to the board.

Remember, you mentioned them on the last thread?


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I'm flattered than you wrote such a long post in response to my theoretical statement which was not addressed to you.

My response concerning an r/s was to pappy--not to you.

I used the word "should" not will--but you know that. Errr, you should know that.

Depending on when a purchase is made and sold--immediately after a split--profits can be made for those who are able to get in and out quickly. Try it some time.

But your comments were not really about stocks, were they?

Baby, you will have to try harder if you are going to try to "cut me up".

In my past work experiences, I have dealt with
numerous bad boys--real ones--not the want-to-be variety.

In regard to profit taking, I did not say that
those holding could make a profit. That would depend on the purchase price and the r/s.

Not expecting statements to be taken out of the context of the entire post, I didn't elaborate.

However, I did write several paragraphs explaining why an r/s would be bad for us. Did you read them?

BTW, are you still in--how many shares?


In the future, I will try to be careful to write in a more simplistic style to help you avoid jumping to conclusions.

Or, could bullets help you?

I could add them to the end of my posts.

Posts are written with black script on a white background that create gray areas--inferences.

MT, an impulsive, attack reaction "could" be a plus alone on a dark city street.

However, within a social context................
.........save your sympathy for yourself.....you
are "probably" going to need it for a long time or
at least until you allow yourself to grow up.

BTW, there are probably many excellent practitioners in your area who could help you along the way.


Now, do you need to get your "lick" back?

Is that what it takes for you?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 

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Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
I have some problems with Jen's post's. First she mentioned that "Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it." I have yet to see anything that is real about Mr. Fan's current companies in Taiwan and their pocket's, nor have i see any information reguarding his respecitibility in Asia.

2) "He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues." How so? because a PR told us so? I have not seen a resume nor have i seen any useful information that points to what the guy has done in the SouthWest region of ASIA.

3) "All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record." I have yet to see any information that proves anything that Mr. Fan has done in the past, unless i missed a post since i did my search for the guy i really dont see how you have come to these conclusions?

Please dont misunderstand, im not tring to bash the girl, i merely wish to see evidence of the claims that she has made. An article from a respectible news source, a financial page of some kinda, id even take a resume at this point. Where are you getting your information from Jen? Because from where i sit now your basing your whole argument off one PR, from a company that is known to put out dishonest PR's reguardless of a new CEO being at the helm or not.

Id would just like to see proof of what you obviously feel so strongly towards. I'm just asking you to back up your claims is all.

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Originally posted by LEO:
Here's a far-fetched speculation MM; Mr. Fan is another of Olsen's (Olson's) long list of supposed aliases.

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Not far fetched at all really. I honestly don't think ANYONE would think that it's far fetched Leo.

But then again....we'll just have to keep waiting to find out huh?
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
LOL, at this point it would almost be par for the course, eh QBID'n!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Bottom line....a PR, a new CEO or a clean slate don't mean jack UNTIL WE SEE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTED PROOF and not a damn bit less.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
But I still have faith.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I did too till i read your last couple of posts im outta here this is scarry


lol joking im long to.

im expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

rod

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
But I still have faith.

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
lets face it...in my opinion this stock is in a coma, and its going to take some high speed doctors to bring it out. even when one does come out of a coma there are lasting side effects, and recovery takes time and SACRIFICES. QBID.PK is in a coma.


what would those sacrifices be? well...i suggested a R/S and that is one that looks unavoidable. sure someone said it would destroy the company at .0001 but what else are you going to do? ohhhh buyback shares? hundreds of billions of shares? do you know how long that would take? do you know how much mony that would cost? ohhhh but they SHOULD have revenue soon. SHOULD being the key word because nothing is for sure moment. Well so what if we do get revenues? obviously it is REALLY expensive to run things, and those revenues will be helping the company break even.

QBID had a bad doctor, and all you staunch frank supporters better rethink your thoughts. sure frank was a nice man and i dont doubt that, but he did make mistakes and thats ok because most companies do when they start out.

i have not watched any Q programming to compare it with say logo. I probably wont subscribe just because im not really into that whole lifestyle so that is an area i am foggy in. has anyone been able to compare networks? i wonder if the big boys in their decision making rooms see anyone else a better investment now. we need superior management now to pull us out.


of course my opinion only
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Cow you seem to be one of the only few with issues concerning Frank. Well guess what?...we've moved on. lol Catch up man. We no longer care about Frank and the past. We are are now trying to cordially come together and discuss our position today.
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
qbidn i dont hav issues with frank and my focus was never on him. what are you talking about
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
I did too till i read your last couple of posts im outta here this is scarry


lol joking im long to.

im expecting the worst and hoping for the best.

rod

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
But I still have faith.

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Just trying to keep my feet on the ground Rod. Reality with this investment is a much clearer vision when you have only spent what you could afford.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey anyone who's interested, don't forget the Sapranos new season starts tonight at 9:00 Eastern.
 

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Posted by coolbreeze1988 on :
 
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
lol Cow...let's just look forward and hope for the best.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Eddie: "...ey Tony, I got a problem"

Tony: "What! I gotta wipe ya ass too, diami una rottura?!"


aahahaha ...the man is hillarious!
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 
So lets assume a r/s is a definite possibility and no other way around it... what is the only way to recover from a reverse spit for you longs? or is it the end of the game?
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
"....end of the game?"

What is the definition of "long" in YOUR encyclopedia?! lol
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 
19,987,600M
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
not the end game.


profits, a reduced share structure and better management will make a healthy stock...OH and REPORTING...FULLY. NEW EXCHANGE!!!
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
I'd like to have more really.
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Hey where did you go? hehehehe
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Okay folks, 5 minutes til showtime.

Gotta get the milk and cookies ready. Later.
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
what is in 5 min?
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 
as of last week i sold my remaining 275000 and although it is not as much as some of you guys here i bought the majority at .0019 and stupidly bought more at .0006 and then again at .0001.
i hope things turn around but if it gets worse then at least i am not loosing any more money. I think if this stock ever goes up even to .0002 then the majority of investors will sell anyway.
its a loosing situation
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
glooz thats why you never...NEVER..average down. i used to do that, but quickly learned it was a death trap. now i only buy into runs if...and IF i can catch them early enough.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!

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cool
All standing orders get cancelled prior to the effective date of the split. Usually, you and your broker will know in advance about the split and can prepare for it. To further prevent any errors, the stock symbol will change temporarily for a month or so. However, check your account prior to the effective date to protect yourself from any errors.
 

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Posted by qlooz on :
 

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Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
glooz thats why you never...NEVER..average down. i used to do that, but quickly learned it was a death trap. now i only buy into runs if...and IF i can catch them early enough.

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Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

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Originally posted by Bottomliner:

quote:

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Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!

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cool
All standing orders get cancelled prior to the effective date of the split. Usually, you and your broker will know in advance about the split and can prepare for it. To further prevent any errors, the stock symbol will change temporarily for a month or so. However, check your account prior to the effective date to protect yourself from any errors.

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Originally posted by Sam1959:

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Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

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Leo,

I think there is no way a new shopping network can compete with QVC and the other shopping networks that are already well established and running efficiently—unless they are selling products specifically focused on a niche market such as the GLBT community. Even then, they should probably limit the time spent on it to just a few hours a day.

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Sam that's the 2nd time this has been mentioned. I must say, gay or straight...we all shop for the same things. There are no "specific" products if you think about it. lol
 

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Posted by LEO on :
 
Guys, there are three full time shopping networks on cable here in Las Cruces/El Paso, with a forth one that runs part-time. In addition there are sveral more channels that run infomercials all week-end and late at night. We are a country of consumers. In 1986 nobody thought the US could handle another car company in an already crowded market. Hyundai proved the skeptics wrong and so did Saturn and Suzuki and Kia several years later.
If anything it looks like the TV market isn't large enough to handle the GBLT channels competeing for it. I'm not saying that QBID will become a shopping network, and I wouldn't say it will remain a GBLT channel. I will say anything is possible and I am not surprised at anything that happens or will happen with this company. One thing I will say though, this company sure is interesting, with rarely a dull moment! We'll see what happens tomorrow!
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes it was and what a long dry spell.

i hate the way they ended the eppisode.

lol

Rod

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
Hey anyone who's interested, don't forget the Sapranos new season starts tonight at 9:00 Eastern.

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quote:

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Originally posted by coolbreeze1988:
I've got a question here:
If you have a standing GTC sell order for say, 5 million shares * .0002 and there is a 100:1 R/S, does your sell transaction get processed at the specified price, a price proportional to the R/S, or do all standing orders get canceled when the R/S takes place??? TIA!

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
aahaha Hey Rod I bet Tony puts the old man in a retirement home now!
 

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Posted by firefly on :
 
http://sovo.com/2006/3-10/arts/television/dial.cfm
Ok Mr. Fan, Get Q in the news!!!
 

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Posted by Sam1959 on :
 

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Originally posted by QBID'n:

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Originally posted by Sam1959:

quote:

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Originally posted by LEO:
Not a gay shopping network, QBID'n, just a shopping network. I could see it, why not? Just pure speculation, of course.

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Leo,

I think there is no way a new shopping network can compete with QVC and the other shopping networks that are already well established and running efficiently—unless they are selling products specifically focused on a niche market such as the GLBT community. Even then, they should probably limit the time spent on it to just a few hours a day.

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Sam that's the 2nd time this has been mentioned. I must say, gay or straight...we all shop for the same things. There are no "specific" products if you think about it. lol

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QBID’n,

I did think about that for a little bit, but then thought there must be some things (even though I can’t think of many things) that would appeal to the GLBT community that might not be as available through other channels (GLBT literature or media products are some examples). I also thought that even selling “normal things” might work better if the GLBT customers know that they are dealing with a staff at the shopping channel that is GLBT friendly. For example, a cross dressing or transgender person could be more comfortable buying clothes for themselves if they could discuss with the staff how the clothes would fit their own body without fear of being humiliated by someone who doesn’t understand. The sizes could also be adjusted to work better for transgender folks, etc…
 

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Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Okay Sam fair enough.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

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Originally posted by MillerTIME:

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

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Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand

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jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

So again guys, JenniferCD10. He is a great writer, hands down. Give him his props for that. In fact, he would be a great PR writer, but the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

IN case anyone is interested in the truth, i will give my opinion, and again this is only my opinion.

Burn rate was somewhere between 2-4M a month (god knows it could be more with the way olsen spent money).

THis gets complicated. Burn rate of (we will do the low end to make it easier) 2M per month.

Say they get 100,000 subs. (currently rumors are anywhere between 800 and 15,000 subscribers, and this was before their 2 week hiatus and the now 50% reduction in shows. WHich imho lost them a good portion of their subscribers. but thats not the point.

THey will be getting about half of the $8 per sub. WHich gives them $4 per every sub.

so...
100K subs = 400K dollars
200K subs = 800K dollars
300K subs = 1.2 M dollars
400K subs = 1.6 M dollars
500K subs = 2 M dollars

So for the low end burn rate they would need 500,000 subsribers.

Olsen was quoted in the financial times article that they are looking for 1-2% of potiential subscribers to sign on.

being avaible in...
10M houses = 100K subs
20M houses = 200K subs
30M houses = 300K subs
40M houses = 400K subs
50M houses = 500K subs.

So it would take around an avialbtly of 50M houses to gain the 500K subs they need to be profitable.

So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

JenniferCD10, thanks for your well written posts, but please, back up your lies if you want to have any bit of credibility left. Your credibility is still under suspicion because of ....

------Moral of story, Q would have to be in 50M houses, to get the 500K subs to get the 2M dollar burn rate. Go to the high end of the burn rate, and theyd have to be in 100M houses with 1M subs.
Q currently is in 3M houses accoring to QTN and has in the range of 800-15,000 subs.

Accordingy to Jenn "i I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months."
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 

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Originally posted by suzainiee:

My response concerning an r/s was to pappy--not to you.

I used the word "should" not will--but you know that. Errr, you should know that.

Depending on when a purchase is made and sold--immediately after a split--profits can be made for those who are able to get in and out quickly. Try it some time.

[/QB]

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Originally posted by QBID'n:
aahaha Hey Rod I bet Tony puts the old man in a retirement home now!

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

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Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand

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jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

So again guys, JenniferCD10. He is a great writer, hands down. Give him his props for that. In fact, he would be a great PR writer, but the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

IN case anyone is interested in the truth, i will give my opinion, and again this is only my opinion.

Burn rate was somewhere between 2-4M a month (god knows it could be more with the way olsen spent money).

THis gets complicated. Burn rate of (we will do the low end to make it easier) 2M per month.

Say they get 100,000 subs. (currently rumors are anywhere between 800 and 15,000 subscribers, and this was before their 2 week hiatus and the now 50% reduction in shows. WHich imho lost them a good portion of their subscribers. but thats not the point.

THey will be getting about half of the $8 per sub. WHich gives them $4 per every sub.

so...
100K subs = 400K dollars
200K subs = 800K dollars
300K subs = 1.2 M dollars
400K subs = 1.6 M dollars
500K subs = 2 M dollars

So for the low end burn rate they would need 500,000 subsribers.

Olsen was quoted in the financial times article that they are looking for 1-2% of potiential subscribers to sign on.

being avaible in...
10M houses = 100K subs
20M houses = 200K subs
30M houses = 300K subs
40M houses = 400K subs
50M houses = 500K subs.

So it would take around an avialbtly of 50M houses to gain the 500K subs they need to be profitable.

So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

JenniferCD10, thanks for your well written posts, but please, back up your lies if you want to have any bit of credibility left. Your credibility is still under suspicion because of ....

------Moral of story, Q would have to be in 50M houses, to get the 500K subs to get the 2M dollar burn rate. Go to the high end of the burn rate, and theyd have to be in 100M houses with 1M subs.
Q currently is in 3M houses accoring to QTN and has in the range of 800-15,000 subs.

Accordingy to Jenn "i I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months."

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Faithfully 19,987,600M Long

Triangle Multi Media will be the all-time Cinderella story! [/QB]

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jen, i gave you your chance. You coward away, like usual, so dont say i wasnt fair. You posted an hour and 38 minutes ago, so its not like you didnt see this.

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As always, you've lived up to my highest expectations: You've misunderstood most of what others have posted, and you've replied with some of the most ignorant, ill-mannered and distorted rhetoric that I've heard all year. Good job.

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... the guy says nothing truthful at all in his posts, and when asked to back it up, will not even respond.

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Which makes Jennifer smarter than me, because I've just wasted time and energy drafting a response to you ... which I know you will misunderstand and distort.

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THis gets complicated. Burn rate of ...

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Not really complicated to understand ... but VERY complicated to believe since you admit IT'S ONLY YOUR OPINION.

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So jenn, because you didnt have the guts to say that you lied, i had to say all this.

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Now obviously this is all my opinion, but it is backed by facts and numbers.

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Wait a minute ... we're back to the conflict of truth vs opinion again. And what you call "facts" are (in your own words) just opinion, since you used numbers that have not been verified. Better keep that dictionary handy.

Summary:
I have no problem with you for disagreeing with Jennifer's "opinions" ... nor will I criticize you for posting your "opinions" ... but I have a huge problem with your continual misunderstanding of comments made by others. You have a right to disagree with the comments of others, but at least challenge what they said instead of what you "think" they meant.

I also have a huge problem with your profound ignorance of words (is English really your native tongue?) and your lack of objectivity, fairness and manners.

Consider this quote (sometimes attributed to Abe Lincoln): "It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."

By the way, your continual "assumptions" about Jennifer's persona (another word you can find in the dictionary) is getting very old. We're all different in real life than we present ourselves here. Let it go ... it doesn't matter.
 

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Forget MillerTime's obsession with Jenn and his/her orientation for a minute...could someone please give the kid a dictionary not only to look up the meaning of words...but also their spelling as well?
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 

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Originally posted by johnny14511:
It would appear to me since you are a long you would have more?

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Originally posted by Esteban99:
1 Bill first 15 minutes.

Nevermind. Ameritrade ticker hasn't worked in awhile, it's till showing friday's volume. Which wasn't right either.

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Originally posted by johnny14511:
It would appear to me since you are a long you would have more?

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To any long, that's way more than $1900.

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This is sad, but very true.
 

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Posted by MillerTIME on :
 
NO BID x .0001
0 x 8
 

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Posted by Esteban99 on :
 
Ameritrade is showing QBID at .01!

Oh, what trickery!

My account balance looks neat, though.
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Forget MillerTime's obsession with Jenn and his/her orientation for a minute...could someone please give the kid a dictionary not only to look up the meaning of words...but also their spelling as well?

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Posted by Ad astra on :
 
Need these cats to come off the ask. At least it was 9 last week...8 now? :-/
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.
 

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

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Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry
 

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

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Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
Hey MT, speaking of people not telling the truth and then not responding to it, you have been sort of quiet since you called doc a liar about the Advocate cover. Well, what exactly is the cover this month?
I wouldn't normally care except that you were in the middle of praising your own efforts while calling someone else a liar.

Good DD there cowboy, and learn some manners.

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Hoss. The proof is in the pudding. I dont lie, whether people want to believe it or not. So, we will see when the cover comes out. Many people try to cut me down with many reasons, but we will see whos right. Im staying quiet because there is no need to cuase a ruckus until the truth is out.

Cover comes out March 15th, hopefully DOC wont pull the same stuff he did last time by hanging out the board members to dry

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See MT, the proof is in the pudding. The Advocate is showing the cover for the issue coming out on the 14th already. So, is the magazine not telling the truth?

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Ameritrade is showing QBID at .01!

Oh, what trickery!

My account balance looks neat, though.

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Yeah, I really wish they would fix that! Everytime I log in I see green and get all excited!
 

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Posted by Anne Burns on :
 
it's about Lloyd Fan now....
 

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Posted by HossTrader on :
 
I might seem hostile MT, but that is only because I don't like you. The rightness/wrongness isn't what I take issue with. Just you
 

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Posted by Dew-it on :
 
Not sure why but there are lots of .0000 trades going through today. PPS range is .0001-.0001

Vol 1M
0X.0000
10X.0001
 

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Posted by hagatha on :
 
Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: dkgross who wrote msg# 229766 Date:3/13/2006 11:39:34 AM
Post #of 229769

it's about Lloyd Fan right now.....

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it's about Lloyd Fan now....

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Thats all im going to say, but this comment from you is almost as worse as the other ones you had.

We will leave it at this. no need to go on. [/QB]

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Promise?

"That's all your going to say?"

"Time" will tell. lol

"We" again?

They still can't they speak for themselves?

So, your boys were laughing at your version of my posts?

I bet that I can guess which parts you chose to omitt.


Hey, I had a laugh too.

It was about a really tough guy

sitting behind a computer with orange juice

suddenly spurting out of his mouth and

nose........just like the Sopranos--really

graphic....don't you think?

lol

I do enjoy this board, but I have a real life.

QBID is just an investment.


Bottom line, MT----I am guilty of indulging you in your preeminent game of grandeur and manipulation.

However, one fix is never enough; there is always that need for more.


Have you ever comtemplated why you must resort to negative behavior to gain attention or is it just to obtain your real goal?

You say some "people try to cut you".

I wonder why you want that?

The first step is the hardest..................

but that takes real guts--no help from the boys.
 

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Posted by hagatha on :
 
Letter to investors out on website:

http://qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
 

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Posted by Bottomliner on :
 

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Letter to investors out on website:

http://qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp

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Thanks. Great find.
 

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Posted by suzainiee on :
 
......current and future investors!

Did I see the word "transparency"?

The ball is in Fan's court.
 

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
if there is not reason to get into a tussle over it if your wrong, then why are the rules different for whoever you are trying to call out.

you like to play by 2 sets of rules.

your not as bright as you choose to believe.

its funny how you feel your more intelligent then others. Your still in school to learn, many on here have finished school and have many years of knowledge of life and things you have not yet experienced in life. Just maybe you dont know it all. You need to get over your self centered feeling of being more intelligent then others, then and only then will you gain any true wisdom.

Rod