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Did you notice in this article that it wasn't an issue to mention the names of carriers that they are talking to? Why should Frank need any secrecy on that issue?
moose Thanks for the link. Very good info. Now for some unpaid and unrequested commentary:
Although the story is all about LOGO and is very positively written, I think this actually is positive for QBID and Here! also.
Sure, I wish this story had been about Q's launch instead of LOGO, but since it wasn't, I will take the next best scenario. Rather than give my rambling opinion on WHY I think this is positive, just go back a few posts and read what Jennifercd10 said (it starts "My little window on the Q investing universe.") She said it all in that post, and I think this LOGO story supports what she said.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Did you notice in this article that it wasn't an issue to mention the names of carriers that they are talking to? Why should Frank need any secrecy on that issue?
DIG Good point.
However . . . Frank just may be more secretive about his business dealings than LOGO (I think I remember him commenting that he has ruined some past deals by discussing them too soon).
Or, he may be further from completing his deals and doesn't have permission to discuss them yet. I guess that would be sort of a negative, but hopefully he is involved with some wheeling and dealing right now.
Or, he may be holding off on any PRs for "good business reasons." Since we don't know, all we can do is encourage him to tell us and wait till he does.
I am usually the most impatient person alive, but sometimes I just have to accept the way others work. However, I am beginning to think Frank operates on south-of-the-border time, where a Mexican minute often takes several days.
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quote:Originally posted by Taterhead: Is it time to involve the SEC??? The misleading PR's need to stop. I've been a supporter of QBID but now I am starting to wonder if TMM is nothing more than a scam.
Tater No one likes the current PPS (unless they are still buying shares), and we all are tired of waiting for significant news. But worrying won't pump the PPS and shouting fraud won't accomplish anything good. If you truly think QBID is a scam, do what you think you have to do, but please do it quietly. Yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre usually kills more people than quietly suggesting everyone leave in an orderly fashion.
By the way, I don't smell any smoke yet, so I am staying for the rest of the movie.
I've been watching the smoke for a long time. I'm not sure why putting the fire to Franks feet would be a bad thing. He works for us and I'm not happy with what I see.
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The last posted PR that Etrade has was June 15. Wonder why they didn't post the other? Posts: 118 | From: NJ | Registered: May 2004
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Here's the problem with the email idea. We can flood his inbox, we can phone, we can write letters. Somehow, I think they're aware that we're upset. As someone else mentioned, we can make the hollow threat of SEC. Richard Brown's PAID position is to be our liasion.
And believe me, I've been on the email kick for a few months now.
But in the end we're still at their mercy.
Frank has made some significant commitments that June is our month, etc. Unless Frank is actually the missing village idiot (which I don't believe) he has to know that if nothing happens by next week, he has damaged his credibility, probably beyond repair.
It's gay pride month, we have a big weekend ahead. It seem to me that the stage is set, the house lights are dimming, the orchestra is keying up. . . .
Frank, the spotlight is on you.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: thanks Big
this will start to snowball. i have had several pms from IHUB they are jumping on this idea lets keep up the pressure folks lets make it happen
Rod
quote:Originally posted by bige2533: I'm in. Re-sent my earlier email asking for answers.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Penny-Trader: [QB] dont just sit patiently, join the revolution lol
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My little window on the Q investing universe...
Very nice post! After a long calm like this we will see one helluva huge storm...GO Q!!!!!
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you all know that im behind this company and im here till we make or break.
What im starting to be bothered by is the fact that we allow Frank to drop these prs with numbers that mean absolutely nothing. They try to lead us to believe that they are not certain what the O/S share count is. they then tell us that they are buying back 3% of the O/S and Frank owns 53%of the outstanding.
My concern is this. how do you calculate how many shares to buy back of an O/S share count that you dont know what it is?
You either do know the number and know how many to buy, in which case they are not being honest when they say the dont know what the count is.
Or they do not know what the count is and are not being honest with us about the buyback anouncement and the 53% that Frank owns.
one way or the other they are not being honest with us. I would rather they come out and say that they know the numbers buy are not prepaired to share that with us at this time.
Q has been making some great strides, and the thing that is starting to bother me is that the O/S is much higher then what they originally lead us to believe.
in either case, if the number is higher then they lead us to believe or they dont tell us the numbers, the effect is turning out the same in a poor poor pps.
now if they have not been honest with us on this how much more are they not being honest with us.
I would like to know the O/S weather it is good bad or Ugly.
im not bashing this you all know im not like this.
it will not hurt for us to put the pressure on Richard to get us some answers.
Rod
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I hear you but if we dont try then we wont know if it will work. that is our typical responce up here in Canada that is why we are in the shape we are in up here.
We dont know what can happen till we pool out energy and try. The worst case scenario is that nothing happens, but Franks will get a message that we are not willing to set back and accept no information.
Baby steps.
there is stregth in numbers. I guess that is something that i have learned as a Union Rep over the last couple of years. It can work if you get the support.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by BlackWidow: PT,
I absolutely agree with you. I want O/S also. Not having it, truly makes the presumption the worst possible scenario.
I just don't think that any amount of annoyance we can cause then, will "force" them to respond.
But, as I said before, I've been in email mode for quite a while now.
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Yes Kevin you are right but i think we need to do one step at a time. Lets give it a couple of weeks of emailing, if no answer then we take the next step and build a list or a poll of how many would support a petition or depending on how far we wanted to go with it, say a class action lawsuit, but that is way down the road and god i would not want to get to that point.
one step at a time. Everyone should send 2-3 messages a day expressing the need to reveal the O/S count at first.
if we get a responce then great, if not then we step it up a notch.
if there is enough demand for information they will have to get us that info, otherwise other day to day tasks will suffer.
pressure is the key, and we need to be diligent in this pressure and i promise you they will respond to it.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by Kevin from NYC: How about an investor petition?
Together maybe we can get some info?
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You know what..it was a pretty strong finish. I'm really annoyed that there was no PR and I'm really annoyed that they won't tell us the O/S, but I'm still optimistic about this...at least, optimistic that we are going to know whether this thing is going to move or not by the end of the month.
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quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Gotta love the rumors...The latest from Investor's Hub a minute or two ago...
Q WILL ANNOUNCE TRIAL CARRIAGE IN 1O MARKETS MONDAY WITH A MAJOR CARRIER
polo Very interesting. Thanks.
Now . . . if I could just understand why reading a "positive" rumor that I don't believe makes me feel better than reading a "negative" rumor that I don't believe(?). Any shrinks out there who want me for a case study?
Anyway, next week should be interesting and entertaining. Frank owes us some action or some explanation. Ain't much of June left. And if he fails to satisfy our lust for news . . . well, I'm afraid this board will get pretty ugly.
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I want to try and encourage Richard to get Frank to at least give us the O/S number on this company.
I hope i can count on your support here.
here is the letter I posted at Allstocks.
last night there where several messages encouraging everyone to e-mail Richard. please everyone make the effort to e-mail him several times a week. with enough pressure we can get this info out of them.
there is strength in numbers. we know we have about 2000 people that read this thread, based on the number of hits on the web site hosting the picture that Finnegan posted for Jenn. if each of you where to send him a message 2-3 times a week asking for the O/S count. that would be 4-6000 messages a week looking for the same info. he will be forced to encourage Frank to pr those numbers.
lets get this done. They are working with our money and we should have a say in what is done with that money. If we can get the folks at IHUB to also help this would inundate Richard to the point that he will have to do something.
Common folks lets pull together and do this.
how many of you are with me on this?
I'm in.
Rich i know you are in
Whiz you are on board right
common folks. it only takes a couple minutes of your time each week and we all spend more then that reading this board. It is your money he is playing with lets tell him what we expect from him
Rod
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B/L I also would like to see quicker progress. I hate the losing feeling. It hurts everywhere. Frank does seem a little off from your mainstream business type. In interviews and stuff. I wonder if he will get the words out when he is speaking, and if he just made up something on a whim in the process. If Q wasn't out at these gay day things doing what there doing I would be very suspicious.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Did you notice in this article that it wasn't an issue to mention the names of carriers that they are talking to? Why should Frank need any secrecy on that issue?
DIG Good point.
However . . . Frank just may be more secretive about his business dealings than LOGO (I think I remember him commenting that he has ruined some past deals by discussing them too soon).
Or, he may be further from completing his deals and doesn't have permission to discuss them yet. I guess that would be sort of a negative, but hopefully he is involved with some wheeling and dealing right now.
Or, he may be holding off on any PRs for "good business reasons." Since we don't know, all we can do is encourage him to tell us and wait till he does.
I am usually the most impatient person alive, but sometimes I just have to accept the way others work. However, I am beginning to think Frank operates on south-of-the-border time, where a Mexican minute often takes several days.
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where you bothered by the other kids in school about your interest in Gay TV?
HMmmmmm interesting
you have incicated to me that you like the postive BS Rumors.
how does that make you feel
hmmmmmmmmm
welll
my profesional opinion is that you have an uncurable condition that we call
Optimisticusqbidicus.
meaning that you are an optimistic, holder of a very highly potential growth tumor we call QBID.
My suggestion is you drink very heavily over the weekend and hold your positions. Im sure i can get you a referal to Dr. Docstoall. he is a very tallented Dr with this condition and im sure he will back up my findings.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Gotta love the rumors...The latest from Investor's Hub a minute or two ago...
Q WILL ANNOUNCE TRIAL CARRIAGE IN 1O MARKETS MONDAY WITH A MAJOR CARRIER
polo Very interesting. Thanks.
Now . . . if I could just understand why reading a "positive" rumor that I don't believe makes me feel better than reading a "negative" rumor that I don't believe(?). Any shrinks out there who want me for a case study?
Anyway, next week should be interesting and entertaining. Frank owes us some action or some explanation. Ain't much of June left. And if he fails to satisfy our lust for news . . . well, I'm afraid this board will get pretty ugly.
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im going to be away this weekend and dont knwo how much time i will have to chat this weekend. i will check in as much as i can i just dont know hom much accesse i will have to internet conections.
have a great weekend eveyone, and get writing those letters to Richard.
Rod
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People, People, People, I have emailed and rec'd return messages from Richard several times in the past week and a half. I have expressed my concern about the lack of positive feedback and potential loss of my investment. From his feedback I feel there are things he would like to tell us, but cannot at this time. Only time will reveal what is on the board and where we are headed. Be patient, positive and give them a chance. Ricardo
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Rod sorry about the delay I work day shift. But yes I am 100% with you and have emailed Richard today. I like your signature!!
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thanks Rich. im leaving here in a few minutes i have a 4.5 hour drive ahead of me so i may not be around till tomorrow sometime.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: [QB] yes lay down on this couch here. i see you have mislplaced anxieties. where you bothered by the other kids in school about your interest in Gay TV? HMmmmmm interesting. you have incicated to me that you like the postive BS Rumors. how does that make you feel? hmmmmmmmmm. welll my profesional opinion is that you have an uncurable condition that we call Optimisticusqbidicus. meaning that you are an optimistic, holder of a very highly potential growth tumor we call QBID. My suggestion is you drink very heavily over the weekend and hold your positions. Im sure i can get you a referal to Dr. Docstoall. he is a very tallented Dr with this condition and im sure he will back up my findings. Rod
Rod That was great. You've made my whole week.
First medical-mental diagnosis I've ever got that I really liked. And your recommendation to drink very heavily over the weekend sure beats "take two asperins and call me in the morning."
I may go broke investing in QBID, but I probably won't care if I follow the advice I've received this week. You recommend drinking very heavily, Doc has offered me a Viagra prescription, and polo has offered to help me find some "bad bad women" when we meet in Vegas. Now, if Frank would just offer some good news on Monday . . .
By the way, just joking about going broke with Q. I heard a rumor that "Q WILL ANNOUNCE TRIAL CARRIAGE IN 1O MARKETS MONDAY WITH A MAJOR CARRIER." Stay tuned for more news.
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I emailed Richard about the O/S count. I'll let you know if I get a response, although I highly doubt that I will since many of you haven't either.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: im going to be away this weekend and dont knwo how much time i will have to chat this weekend. i will check in as much as i can i just dont know hom much accesse i will have to internet conections.
have a great weekend eveyone, and get writing those letters to Richard.
Rod
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We live in interesting times, someone said. How true for us. We can complain about no pr, but a good card player will only play her cards at the right time. Would any of us want Frank to make a mistake and play the wrong card because "we" want it played? Who are we to tell Frank how to develope Q? We buy stock and then we have to trust. If we don't then we should cash in our chips and go to another table. Buy low, sell high. How low is low and how high is high? I bought at .0017 today. Should I have waited till .0015? If I do and get it GREAT! If I wait and we get THAT pr and its at one cent then I missed the opportunity. Frank has done a far better job then most to get Q to this point. Maybe we should give him his credit due by reaching down within ourselves and trusting Frank to take Q that last 10 yards to the end zone. Sorry Ladies, I tried to write this in Male.
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Hey I understand that Jennifer! Me male!! I know Frank is doing great and the live shows they will be putting on will get us a lot of attention. I need to stay patient the pps will follow!
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