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I think so Rich

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I miss skunks and zeus' play by play on this important night for Q!
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yes, me too,bad timing.

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Good call sneaker...funny thing is my dig cable provider is cox cable. oops.

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Originally posted by sneaker68:
Don't forget Cox Cable: http://www.cox.com/support/selectlocation_contact.asp



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Don't forget to send your letter to Echostar/DISH Network. 20 letters a day gets Q some play :)

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quote:
Originally posted by tomktoo:
whizknock, been in this thing for the last 3 years & holding 12.6 million shares! i may die before Frank let's go. Well anyway, i hope i'm in Matzalan, mexico at the Frog's! when i hear QBID went to 13.43 per share. I will buy Frog's!!

Got me beat Tomktoo!

I've only been here a little more than a year & a half. Frank will "let go" as you put it with in the next couple of years tops & it will be trading for a lot more than it is today when he does. What's funny is I can actually imagine 13.43 but I'll be letting go of most my core in the $1.25 range! And that's not a joke!

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quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Hi all, gay pride news all over Atl, I didn't go but atleast 300k people with estimates of 500K. Deann on ihub has great pics but I think ihub is down now.

http://sovo.com/2005/6-24/locallife/pride/fri-night.cfm

Based on this, I am sure we will get some news tomorrow on how the parade went.

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Not looking pretty - Frank better get busy.

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Trend Spotter TM Sell

Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Sell
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Hold
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Sell
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold

Short Term Indicators Average: 60% - Sell
20-Day Average Volume - 243423453

Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Sell
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Sell
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Sell

Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Sell
50-Day Average Volume - 263230500

Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Sell
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Sell

Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Sell
100-Day Average Volume - 253013313

Overall Average: 88% - Sell

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quote:
Originally posted by newbie do:
Not looking pretty - Frank better get busy.

Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter TM Sell

Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Sell
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Hold
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Sell
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold

Short Term Indicators Average: 60% - Sell
20-Day Average Volume - 243423453

Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Sell
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Sell
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Sell

Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Sell
50-Day Average Volume - 263230500

Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Sell
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Sell
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Sell

Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Sell
100-Day Average Volume - 253013313

Overall Average: 88% - Sell

newbie
You are correct about barcharts indicators currently being mostly negative. However, remember that most of these indicators simply reflect recent history and indicate what investors currently think about the stock. So, if recent trades relect more "selling" than "buying", many barcharts indicators will be "SELL" (or "HOLD" if selling and buying were close).

If tomorrow's activity goes against barcharts indicators and is predominently buys (for any reason), many of these indicators may reverse to "BUY" within a day or two . . . and possibly back to "SELL" as soon as sells outnumber buys again.

This is also true for indicators/recommendations from candlestick chart systems. Note that candlestick charts often go from BUY to SELL and vice versa many times in a short period, even when company fundamentals have not changed.

What I am trying to point out is that no indicator (that I know of) predicts a company's long-term future. They only "indicate" current investor sentiment and therefore may predict very short-term direction but not long-term direction.

A stock's long-term direction is determined by company fundamentals, and only by analyzing company fundamentals can we predict that company's potential for success.

And this brings us back to our concern for "real" data from QBID. We cannot do accurate DD without knowing share count, subscriber count, carriers, cash flow and other company financials. I believe all this data will be provided to us as soon as feasible and will support my ongoing faith in QBID.

Another poker analogy: I like my pocket jacks and will continue to bet them strongly as long as no overcards hit the board. The launch of LOGO might be considered an overcard, so I have to have some concern about the relative strength of my jacks. However, if another "jack" hits the table on the turn, I will raise without question. So, come on, Frank . . . deal me a jack.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Bottomliner...How about "Simply Q". Even a straight invester would have to be a little Q to invest here (that means aware, understanding and farsighted).

Jen
I like "Simply Q". Thanks.

By the way, your use of the phrase "even a straight investor" triggered a question that I've never really thought about before: I wonder how many QBID investors are straight and how many are GLBT . . . and how many don't know what they are.

The answer really isn't important to me, but I was re-reading some previous posts (from you and noah and others) and realized that many QBID investors seem to want QBID to succeed for other reasons than personal financial gain. They also want QBID to succeed because they believe QBID's success will help improve life for people who are GLBT.

I bought QBID simply for financial gain, not to champion equal rights for GLBTs. However, I now would like QBID to succeed because I believe that success will help diminish some of the bigotry that exists against GLBTs. If I get rich in the process, I will consider that a grandslam.

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Got an email back from Richard today(On Sunday!!)

Kind of confusing becasue my name is Richard too. But I asked about O/S and this is his answer!

I do not have that information.



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:41 PM
To: Equity Relations, Inc.
Subject: QBID



Hey can you tell me the current o/s of QBID?



Thanks Richard

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Anyone going to NYC pride events tonight?
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I got an answer today too. I think the secret is asking only one question per e-mail. Any of my multi question e-mails have not been answered yet.

Here is the e-mail, and answer, starting with the answer.
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False.



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin ****** [mailto:****@*****.com]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:06 PM
To: staff@equityrelations.com
Subject: Q WILL ANNOUNCE TRIAL CARRIAGE IN 1O MARKETS MONDAY WITH A MAJOR CARRIER?



Richard,



Is there any truth to this?



Posted by: FranyGoes2Hollywood
In reply to: None Date:6/24/2005 3:56:02 PM
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Q WILL ANNOUNCE TRIAL CARRIAGE IN 1O MARKETS MONDAY WITH A MAJOR CARRIER



Thanks,



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oh well, it would have been nice.

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Of interest!

By: chief362
26 Jun 2005, 09:12 AM EDT
Msg. 111081 of 111084
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Great Article in Press Enterprise Newspaper in SoCal!!

You can find this at PE.com (California) The article is actually written by AP correspondent Lisa Leff. I love the part about $610 billion in expendable income!!

From Anheuser-Busch to B of A, corporations bolster gay pride

By LISA LEFF

The Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO

If it takes a queer eye to notice that the cast of Bravo cable network's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" ride in Volkswagens during New York's gay pride parade, that's just what the car maker intends.

Similarly, Wells Fargo hopes the crowds attending San Francisco's gay pride parade get a good look at its employees singing show tunes atop the stagecoach-themed float the bank entered in its hometown event on Sunday.

Despite boycott threats from anti-gay groups and the perception of a gay marriage backlash from the American public, corporate sponsorship of gay pride festivities held around the country in June remains strong this year, according to event organizers and advertising agencies that specialize in reaching gay and lesbian consumers.

From Anheuser-Busch to Bank of America and Avis-Rent-a-Car to Aetna Insurance, mainstream businesses that might have once thought twice about flying their logos alongside the rainbow flag are actively courting a market they consider beneficial, if not essential, to their bottom lines.

"This is a very good, loyal customer base," said Benet Wilson, a spokeswoman for Delta Airlines, which is sponsoring gay pride festivals in New York, Boston, Cincinnati, San Francisco and its Atlanta headquarters this month. "It's a great demographic and we think it's foolish not to cater to that."

Like Delta, Wells Fargo and Anheuser-Busch which is one of the biggest supporters of gay pride events through its Bud Light brand Absolut Vodka, Ford Motor Co., Washington Mutual Bank, PepsiCo Inc. and the Showtime and Bravo cable networks show up in multiple cities during pride season.

Besides contributing cash or products, some corporations get involved by setting up booths where they hand out brochures and prizes or hire rovers to distribute samples along parade routes.

Other companies limit their support to local events, responding to requests from gay and lesbian employees. Minneapolis-based Best Buy, for example, is a sponsor of Twin Cities Pride, while Coca-Cola has participated in pride events in Atlanta, where it's based.

Held every June, Gay and Lesbian Pride Month marks the June 27, 1969 anniversary of a raid on the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City's Greenwich village. The event which became known as the Stonewall Riots after the bar's patrons resisted the police is a touchstone in the gay rights movement.

Sivan Schlecter, whose New York-based Out of the Blue Marketing is promoting MTV's new LOGO gay cable network in four cities this weekend, said the slice of corporate America represented at gay pride events has broadened dramatically during the last five years.

"Cable operators are doing this, airlines are out there marketing (as well as) finance, insurance, automotive," Schlecter said. "The categories have expanded from the givens the spirits and the beer."

Although most companies that participate in pride events are reluctant to discuss it, they have to evaluate the risks as well as the rewards of so visibly entering the lesbian and gay market. That was a lesson Ford learned earlier this month when the American Family Association, based in Tupelo, Miss., called for a Ford boycott because of the car maker's decision to donate to gay rights organizations for every Jaguar and Land Rover it sold.

The American Family Association suspended the Ford boycott until December after the group heard from some local Ford dealers. But the AFA has an active boycott against Kraft Foods because of the company's decision to sponsor the Gay Games being held in Chicago next year.

"It doesn't surprise us that more companies are doing this become we are becoming a more socially liberal country in many respects," said Tim Wildmon, the group's president. "Where 10 years or five years ago they would have seen something inherently wrong with putting their product at a gay pride event, today they are not even considering the moral question."

In a survey commissioned last year by FH Out Front, Fleishman-Hillard's gay public relations unit, two-thirds of the American adults surveyed said that knowing a company markets to gays and lesbians had no effect on their feelings about the company. The overwhelming majority, 81 percent, said it didn't matter to them if the products they used regularly were promoted to the gay community.

On the subject of an anti-gay boycott, 45 percent of the respondents said they wouldn't change their purchasing habits if an organization launched an action against a company that reached out to gays and lesbians.

The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.

Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.

"In terms of purchasing power and how much they absolutely want to be heard for their needs, they are really a powerhouse," Scales said, explaining why Wells Fargo has a corporate presence at gay pride events in far-flung cities including Phoenix, San Diego, Denver, Des Moines, Portland, Minneapolis, Salt Lake City as well as San Francisco.

Michael Wilke, who runs a Web site devoted to gay and lesbian-themed advertising called The Commercial Closet, said that while many advertisers are aware of the backlash associated with being seen as gay-friendly, "they are not necessarily backing off" and view the events as "an opportunity to connect more directly with an audience."

"Pride events are something that is a political statement for some people still and harkens back to our history as a community where we were previously hated by the outside world," Wilke said. "To have a presence at something like that can create a very emotional connection, but it's also something that in the past was considered somewhat risky."

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On the Net:

The Commercial Closet: http://www.commercialcloset.org/cgi-bin/iowa/index.html

FH Out Front: http://www.fleishman.com/capabilities/practice_groups/out_front.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
Got an email back from Richard today(On Sunday!!). . . I asked about O/S and this is his answer!

"I do not have that information."

Rich
Thanks for trying . . . and for letting us know the answer. I think his answer should have been "I cannot release that information . . . YET."

I believe they know "about" how many shares there are, but I also believe they want to (or have to) release all this info at one time. Hope I am not acting like a "blind believer", as someone recently called those of us who openly believe in QBID. As I have said before, I may be wrong about QBID, but so far I have seen nothing to convince me of that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kevin from NYC:
I got an answer today too. I think the secret is asking only one question per e-mail. Any of my multi question e-mails have not been answered yet.

Kevin
Good point. I often answer short emails first due to lack of time for a long answer. And I probably have more spare time than Richard.

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I believe in QBID Bottomliner. I am reading posts on IHUB from zeus and skunksyard about Q! They have been live from gay events and are doing awesome. Zeus and skunksyard subscribe to Q and are giving us a play by play. So yes I believe in Q!!

Monday, June 20, 2005
Q Television Hosts 24-Hour Live Marathon in Six Cities


Live Marathon starts on June 24th at 12:00 PM PST in San Francisco



San Francisco – Atlanta – Chicago – New York – Honolulu - Houston



PALM SPRINGS, Calif. – June 20, 2005 -- Q TELEVISION NETWORK (OTCBB Other: QBID), the television network for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered community, makes its mark on history and hosts the first ever live television marathon that will simultaneously broadcast gay pride parades from San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Honolulu and Houston. This marks the first ever live coverage of this magnitude by any television network.



“This undertaking shows what Q television represents to the GLBT community and what we will continue to represent. We remain committed to providing live, national and original programming,” said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. “On Q Live is truly a unique show, and has some of the most talented producers and hosts in the industry – we wanted to show the country our commitment to the gay communities in these major cities.”



Q Television will provide the GLBT community with this live, multi-city, 24-hour marathon coverage in each of the six cities’ gay pride celebrations. It will be co-produced by Alexis Fish, award winning television and movie producer, Scott Withers former writer/producer of CNN, Wanda Silva, former news reporter for the , Telemundo network, as well as a long list of talented and accomplished producers. The celebration will be hosted by Q Television’s dynamic talent pool, led by Scott Withers, Robbie Laughlin, from Queer Eye for the Straight Girl, Nick Oram, Cassian Bernard, Jack E. Jett, Chrisanne Eastwood, former Massachusetts Senator Cheryl Jacques, former U.S. Women’s Soccer Team member Saskia Webber, Chris Jones, Joe Beachley, and others.



Olsen added, “This couldn’t be done without our fabulous production crew from Firestone Communications.”



“It is clear that Q Television is committed to serving its community like no other network, and the Firestone Communications production team is thrilled to help facilitate this television first” said Leonard Firestone, CEO & Chairman of the Board, Firestone Communications.



There will be two hosts in each of the six cities. QTN’s on-air talent will explore the unique aspects of the GLBT community, interview celebrities, delve into the location’s queer arts, and celebrate the rich history of each city.



On Q Live is truly an interactive show since viewers are able to join in discussions with the hosts using their web cameras. On Q Live is available every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday from 7:30 - 10:00 p.m. EST /4:30 - 7:00 p.m. PST. It is an entertainment talk show with three hosts discussing various topics important to the gay and lesbian community. The show also includes Q News Briefs with important news and sports topics.



Prior to this event On Q Live will be broadcasting live all this week in San Francisco at 1975 Market St. (at the corner of Market & Dolores St.) We invite members of the community to come and watch the live taping nightly from 4:30 - 7:00 p.m. PST.



About Q Television: This television network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Q Television Network is the official Network of Gay Games® VII. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
I believe in QBID Bottomliner. I am reading posts on IHUB from zeus and skunksyard about Q! They have been live from gay events and are doing awesome. Zeus and skunksyard subscribe to Q and are giving us a play by play. So yes I believe in Q!!

Monday, June 20, 2005
Q Television Hosts 24-Hour Live Marathon in Six Cities


Live Marathon starts on June 24th at 12:00 PM PST in San Francisco



San Francisco – Atlanta – Chicago – New York – Honolulu - Houston



PALM SPRINGS, Calif. – June 20, 2005 -- Q TELEVISION NETWORK (OTCBB Other: QBID), the television network for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered community, makes its mark on history and hosts the first ever live television marathon that will simultaneously broadcast gay pride parades from San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Honolulu and Houston. This marks the first ever live coverage of this magnitude by any television network.



“This undertaking shows what Q television represents to the GLBT community and what we will continue to represent. We remain committed to providing live, national and original programming,” said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. “On Q Live is truly a unique show, and has some of the most talented producers and hosts in the industry – we wanted to show the country our commitment to the gay communities in these major cities.”



Q Television will provide the GLBT community with this live, multi-city, 24-hour marathon coverage in each of the six cities’ gay pride celebrations. It will be co-produced by Alexis Fish, award winning television and movie producer, Scott Withers former writer/producer of CNN, Wanda Silva, former news reporter for the , Telemundo network, as well as a long list of talented and accomplished producers. The celebration will be hosted by Q Television’s dynamic talent pool, led by Scott Withers, Robbie Laughlin, from Queer Eye for the Straight Girl, Nick Oram, Cassian Bernard, Jack E. Jett, Chrisanne Eastwood, former Massachusetts Senator Cheryl Jacques, former U.S. Women’s Soccer Team member Saskia Webber, Chris Jones, Joe Beachley, and others.



Olsen added, “This couldn’t be done without our fabulous production crew from Firestone Communications.”



“It is clear that Q Television is committed to serving its community like no other network, and the Firestone Communications production team is thrilled to help facilitate this television first” said Leonard Firestone, CEO & Chairman of the Board, Firestone Communications.



There will be two hosts in each of the six cities. QTN’s on-air talent will explore the unique aspects of the GLBT community, interview celebrities, delve into the location’s queer arts, and celebrate the rich history of each city.



On Q Live is truly an interactive show since viewers are able to join in discussions with the hosts using their web cameras. On Q Live is available every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday from 7:30 - 10:00 p.m. EST /4:30 - 7:00 p.m. PST. It is an entertainment talk show with three hosts discussing various topics important to the gay and lesbian community. The show also includes Q News Briefs with important news and sports topics.



Prior to this event On Q Live will be broadcasting live all this week in San Francisco at 1975 Market St. (at the corner of Market & Dolores St.) We invite members of the community to come and watch the live taping nightly from 4:30 - 7:00 p.m. PST.



About Q Television: This television network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Q Television Network is the official Network of Gay Games® VII. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.

Rich
Thanks for the great info.

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Your welcome,I am very excited. I was down because of the pps. But from reading IHUB I am feeling much better. May buy more QBID...LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
I believe in QBID Bottomliner. I am reading posts on IHUB from zeus and skunksyard about Q! They have been live from gay events and are doing awesome. Zeus and skunksyard subscribe to Q and are giving us a play by play. So yes I believe in Q!!


I have peeked over there myself but it seems to me that their posts are not about QBID(the stock) at all but about promoting the gay pride event and thery're using the stock thread to do it.

I just hope that doesn't happen here.

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The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.

Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.


With that as a target who needs a Bullseye!!!!

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**Aside from huge exposure,,**

Anything else change?

(1) Do they have a product or service?

(2) Is it a quality product or service?

(3) Is it a marketable product or service?

(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?

(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?

(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?

(7) Do they have a target demographic?

(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?

(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?

(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?

(11) Do they have sponsors?

(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?

(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.

And most importantly one personal question,,,

(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position.

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quote:
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Got an email back from Richard today(On Sunday!!)

Kind of confusing becasue my name is Richard too. But I asked about O/S and this is his answer!

I do not have that information.



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:41 PM
To: Equity Relations, Inc.
Subject: QBID



Hey can you tell me the current o/s of QBID?



Thanks Richard

Do you really think he doesn't have the information?? They have something to hide.
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My only real concern with the Q is the float. But, that may be a double edged sword. I feel it may be higher than we really want and that is perhaps why nothing is being said about it. Still holding what I got and still hopeful. And I got my answer from Richard as well. Reading between the lines I get the feeling that he is working his butt off to answer everyone. Terse, one sentence answers also show he may be getting frustrated. That's what I got.

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quote:
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My only real concern with the Q is the float. But, that may be a double edged sword. I feel it may be higher than we really want and that is perhaps why nothing is being said about it. Still holding what I got and still hopeful. And I got my answer from Richard as well. Reading between the lines I get the feeling that he is working his butt off to answer everyone. Terse, one sentence answers also show he may be getting frustrated. That's what I got.

It could be that Frank is holding back information that Richard should have.
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THE CASH IS COMING ITS JUST A SLOW RIDE,AS FOR ALL THE INDICATORS THEY DONT MEAN JACK ON THIS PENNY STOCK THE BEST TIME TO GO IN IS WHEN THERE ALL LEAVING.......
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Logo news:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050626/ap_on_en_tv/ap_on_tv_graden_s_logo

TV Network for Gays, Lesbians to Debut

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer 50 minutes ago

NEW YORK - The man who's molding Logo, the new network for gays and lesbians, grew up in rural Illinois, attended Oral Roberts University and counted that cheesy keyboard solo on "Freeze Frame" as his big moment during gigs with his college band the Ozones. At first glance, Brian Graden hardly seems too hip for the room.
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But the 42-year-old Graden is one of television's busiest and most imaginative executives, already responsible for the programming on MTV, VH1 and CMT — and now Logo, which debuts Thursday.

Long in the works, Logo will initially be seen in about 10 million homes with digital cable. Unlike Here and Q, two pay-per-view, gay-oriented networks already operating, Logo will be available in homes that do not specifically order it.

Films such as "Kissing Jessica Stein" and "Philadelphia" and documentaries will fill many of Logo's first hours. The network also has a scripted series, "Noah's Arc," about a homosexual black man and his friends in Los Angeles, a reality series about opening a gay bar and the stand-up comedy series "Wisecrack."

A gay man himself, Graden had hoped to help out with Logo even before he was appointed its president.

Graden's job requires a comfort with Wall Street and Hollywood, two sides of his personality presaged by his educational choices. He went to Oral Roberts with fellow band members in an ill-fated attempt to keep the Ozones alive, then later earned an MBA from Harvard University.

Seeking an internship one summer, he wore his best suit to an interview with colorful TV executive Stephen Chao. Chao said he'd hire Graden as long as he never wore a tie again, and spent the interview quizzing the young man on what he watched on TV, the music he listened to, the movies he saw.

"I came to understand that that's the essence of what you're hiring, the essence of what matters," he said.

Graden now appoints teams at MTV Networks that are immersed in the lifestyles of the audiences they are trying to reach.

The launchpad for his career came when he befriended writers Trey Parker and Matt Stone, helping them to develop "South Park."

He moved to MTV in 1997, and was the executive behind a dizzying array of hits, including "The Osbournes," "Pimp My Ride," "Jackass," and "The Newlyweds." Graden has managed not only to stay on top of MTV's here-today, gone-tomorrow ethos but expand his authority to where he's put between 200 and 300 programs on the air.

"It's one of those things that's increasingly gratifying, to see an executive who truly approaches television from a creative point of view without ignoring the business of all of it," said television producer Michael Davies, whose credits include "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire."

A gently prodding phone call from Graden when he heard Davies was pitching an interesting show to another network recently resulted in VH1 getting the project — a late-night talk show still under development — when the other network backed off.

Every holiday season Graden sends to friends not only a card, but an exquisitely curated CD mix of songs. "He lives a creative life," Davies said.

It would be unusual to get country music fans, rappers and fans of
Britney Spears or old
Jackson Browne videos to agree on much of anything, yet Graden is the man overseeing the mix of networks that appeal to each one.

What's he doing running a country music channel, anyway?

"If you go home (to Hillsboro, Ill.) and visit my parents — not that I'd wish that on anyone — you would find CMT on 24 hours a day," he said. "My parents are finally proud of what I do because they watch CMT. Before, I don't think they understood what I do every day."

Logo may be his biggest challenge yet.

"I don't envy his position," said Paul Colichman, founder of Here, which offers primarily edgy material oriented to gays and lesbians in about 45 million homes.

"He's got competing constituencies," he said. "He's got advertisers who are fearful of offending anyone because they're going after mass groups of people. At the same time, he's got to create a service that is compelling to the gay and lesbian audience who wants to watch it. It kind of depends on their appetite for gay lite."

The decision to remake a Canadian series about planning a commitment ceremony, called "My Fabulous Gay Wedding," illustrates the fine line being walked. The Logo series is instead called "First Comes Love." The title wasn't changed to sidestep controversy, but rather to better reflect a show about relationships, a Logo spokesman said.

Graden said his job is to serve the target gay and lesbian audience and not worry about cultural critics who may look over his shoulder.

"That said, we've also said from early on that the standards for Logo will be that of a general entertainment network," he said. "The assumption that I would have to push certain standards to tell my story instead of yours I don't get, because they're all human stories."

Potential viewers have told Logo that it's important to reflect their community's diversity, he said. So there will be documentaries telling what it's like, for instance, to be a 22-year-old Latino homosexual or a lesbian couple that has been together for decades.

That's different from the other, sharply focused MTV networks; watch MTV and you know it's made for 21-year-olds. Even corporate cousin BET is more interested in young black viewers than the black audience as a whole.

"We're talking to an audience that has already felt that it has been excluded from the media tapestry for many years," Graden said. "It didn't feel right to create a channel where some people would feel further excluded."

Having a gay or lesbian in charge of Logo was essential, Colichman said. Quietly proud of the moment, Graden said it has symbolic and practical advantages.

"It is important and powerful that you have both gay and lesbian voices directly in the conversation for the product you're trying to create because you're trying to serve an audience," he said. "We don't want any of our channels to look like a corporate man was handing down what he thinks an audience would like."

On the Net:

http://www.logoonline.com

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Jennifer sitting on the windowsill looking at the beautiful Q rising in the morning.

This is what I see and think:

1. I’m not going to worry about the O/S or float because all that will be reveled shortly. I’m not going to let my mind turn to mush over that. What already is is and Frank will disclose that when it is best for Q, which is my investment along with his. I’ll ride Q’s apron strings.
2. I’m not going to worry about no meaty prs during the buyback. I wouldn’t put one out and Frank is a lot smarter than I am.
3. I’m not going to worry about the direction Q is going because I have very little knowledge of what goes on in the “inner circle”. Frank has assembled an excellent management and advisory team and I trust their decisions more than mine.
4. I’m not going to worry about the Pink Sheets because I feel we are on our way off of them. Frank would not have hired those “high powered” New York attorneys specializing in just our problem and called for an audit if his advisors and the attorneys didn’t firmly believe that a pathway off the Pinks and onto an exchange was not there.
5. I’m not going to worry about our competition because it is healthy and the marketplace can absorb us all.
6. I’m not going to worry about the Logo launch next week because I would rather have Logo take any “heat”.
7. I’m not going to worry about Q’s product because of what I’ve seen and what many others have seen. All observations have been positive.
8. I’m not going to worry about what some bashers would say because most of them have an agenda and would not participate in a healthy discussion. Those posters like to play cerebral fornication games and I will mentally rule them out.
9. I’m not going to worry about my investment as it stands now. I will keep monitoring it and make any adjustments as necessary as future events dictate.
10. I am going to enjoy life and watch Q unfold.

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This is strange, but makes me feel good.
I just got an email from Richard Also, I am sure
that he is limited as to what he can offer as far
as progress goes. I am delighted that he is
responding.
Marty: Where you been ??
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What do you guys think about Q revealing something big at the same time that LOGO launches next week? It would be be sort of an extra boost to the awareness of Q and would let those interested know there is a choice of gay TV instead of just one...or two (Here).
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quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
**Aside from huge exposure,,**

Anything else change?
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Jennifer sitting on the windowsill looking at the beautiful Q rising in the morning.

This is what I see and think:

1. I’m not going to worry about the O/S or float because all that will be reveled shortly. I’m not going to let my mind turn to mush over that. What already is is and Frank will disclose that when it is best for Q, which is my investment along with his. I’ll ride Q’s apron strings.
2. I’m not going to worry about no meaty prs during the buyback. I wouldn’t put one out and Frank is a lot smarter than I am.
3. I’m not going to worry about the direction Q is going because I have very little knowledge of what goes on in the “inner circle”. Frank has assembled an excellent management and advisory team and I trust their decisions more than mine.
4. I’m not going to worry about the Pink Sheets because I feel we are on our way off of them. Frank would not have hired those “high powered” New York attorneys specializing in just our problem and called for an audit if his advisors and the attorneys didn’t firmly believe that a pathway off the Pinks and onto an exchange was not there.
5. I’m not going to worry about our competition because it is healthy and the marketplace can absorb us all.
6. I’m not going to worry about the Logo launch next week because I would rather have Logo take any “heat”.
7. I’m not going to worry about Q’s product because of what I’ve seen and what many others have seen. All observations have been positive.
8. I’m not going to worry about what some bashers would say because most of them have an agenda and would not participate in a healthy discussion. Those posters like to play cerebral fornication games and I will mentally rule them out.
9. I’m not going to worry about my investment as it stands now. I will keep monitoring it and make any adjustments as necessary as future events dictate.
10. I am going to enjoy life and watch Q unfold.

Jennifer
Excellent post. Along with whizknock's list of QBID's many positives, I don't have a word to add.

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quote:
Originally posted by sneaker68:
What do you guys think about Q revealing something big at the same time that LOGO launches next week? It would be be sort of an extra boost to the awareness of Q and would let those interested know there is a choice of gay TV instead of just one...or two (Here).

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Sounds good.

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Apparently there is a new show in Canada called, "My Fabulous Gay Wedding" and they have a lot of sponsors:

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/features/myfabulousgaywedding/sponsors.html

One of them is Orbitz.

If one little show can get that many sponsors in Canada, why can't Q get a boatload more? There is huge potential out there.

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quote:
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Do you really think he (Richard) doesn't have the information?? They have something to hide.

quote:
Originally posted by newbie do:
It could be that Frank is holding back information that Richard should have.

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Do you ever see the positive side of anything? First you accuse Richard of lying, then you accuse Frank of withholding information. Both of which are the most negative possibilities of the situation.

Did you consider that Richard may not have the exact information? Or more likely, he cannot release such information YET. This could be due to legal reasons or more likely due to solid business reasons. Have you ever held a position of authority that required confidentiality? Or have you always been one of the people "nobody ever told anything"?

And please don't answer by whining that you are "just being realistic". If you want to appear "realistic", don't post everything with a negative slant. State facts, positive or negative, and let each of us analyze the data. You don't have to interpret everything for us everytime.

And don't suggest that I "believe blindly" in QBID. I will match what I know about QBID with anything you "think" you know, and I like what I know.

And for the record, I've been in positions of authority that required me to withhold information from anyone without "the need to know." Frank may want to tell us everything but we don't have "the need to know." And more likely, he can't tell us without telling the whole world . . . do you want him to tell his competition everything he is doing? That doesn't sound too smart.

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quote:
Originally posted by sneaker68:
What do you guys think about Q revealing something big at the same time that LOGO launches next week? It would be be sort of an extra boost to the awareness of Q and would let those interested know there is a choice of gay TV instead of just one...or two (Here).

I believe(hope) this is what is planned.
Logo will get publicity all over the place just because they are Viacom and they have contacts everywhere.
Media people do not like to look like they're giving any one company free publicity so they'll try to make it seem like their pieces are on "The Gay TV Phenomenon" in general.
These writers will have to mention Q television and Here! in their pieces in order to look fair.

Q Television will get free pubicity every time Logo is mentioned.

Then, while the ink is still warm in newsrooms around the country, and Logo is being talked about on shows like The O'Reilly Factor, Hannity & Colmes, etc. we release our own PR's.

I would guess this should happen within a week after Logo launches. I don't think we should wait until Logo succeeds or fails. The "hype window" will only be open for a short time.

And the kind of PR's that we as investors are waiting for (buybacks, OS counts, moving off pink sheets, etc.) are not what is needed at this time. The public doesn't understand that stuff. We need PR's for the general public (What kind of shows are offered, how much subscribing would cost, etc.)

We're trying to attract subscribers now, not investors.
If we can get RCN's phones ringing off the hook with new subscribers, then the other carriers will want a piece of that action, then the new investors come knocking to buy shares, then the stock goes up.

The question is, are Franks public relations(not investor relations) people up to the task?

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