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Bob Frey
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Love and others you should not post your email in threads or you will get a ton of spam and it will not be from Allstocks.com.
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Bob -

THANKS - when I copied/pasted here I MEANT to take my email off - but forgot too.

I use a yahoo email for here and other boards where I don't care if I get spammed. Even on AOL though - I get a ton of spam. Being in Sales/Mktg. it doesn't bother me the way it bothers some. To me - it's no different than going to my mailbox and carry in more "junk mail" than regular mail. The only thing I HATE though is Office Max AND Office Depot seem to send me a huge catalog almost every month. Now THEY are a pain in the neck. I've never ordered out of their catalogs - I order online - but they got me through my corporations listings.

Have a nice day and thanks again for the 'heads up'

You do a great job with this board...

Steve

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Roger or ANyone:

Do you have the link to the daily symbol/name changes. I had it under favorites - but it disappearded!

Thanks,
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http://www.pinksheets.com/getstats?action=daily_listing_symb_change
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Thanks Bud -

Looks like they still can't get it together - so far today anyway. Gonna go do some errands - Hope I come back to a NICE BIG Surprise!

What kills me the most about these damn MMs not raising ask is: MOST of us who would pay .0087 per share would pay.009 - They don't even 'Test the Waters' - They've got 4 @ .0087 now on Ask

[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 19, 2004).]


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OOoops - I spoke 2 second too soon. Now 4 @ .0084 on bid and 1 on Ask at .0085: VFIN of course.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww


We NEED the RIGHT PRs released soon or we'll be at .006 by end of next week.


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I thougt abut adding to my position with it was in the 8's. I just cant make myself do it. This stock seems to risky. Any suggestions? And still waiting,,, waiting,, waiting, for a GREAT PR.
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'puter problems, standby...

[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 19, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Yeah babeeeeee!
Today's looking good so far!
8 MMs at .20 or over.
People want this one.
salemm.

GNET 0.225 10000 - 0 U O
SCHB 0.22 5000 0.245 5000 O
HILL 0.22 5000 0.25 5000 O
NITE 0.22 5000 0.25 5000 O
MAYF 0.2 5000 0.51 2500 O
WIEN 0.2 5000 0.31 5000 O
JEFF 0.2 5000 0.24 5000 O
CRWN 0.2 5000 0.45 5000 O


LOL


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That was for ADPR Hippo... but DAMN! You're fast. I was editing that a half second after I posted!! You must have a well-used 'refresh' button, eh?
salemm.

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Originally posted by The Hippo:
LOL


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PR today...it was confirmed...

MM are pushing very strong to have shares as low as possible I think...then...when PR hits...you know the pattern. If it goes like all the other times, it will go up very fast. Be quick.

By the way. The PR it to confirm an give details of the aquisition of the Fingerprinting. Check below.

Thursday , February 26, 2004 12:26 ET

HOUSTON, Feb 26, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets:PAVP) has finalized the acquisition of a privately held fingerprint technology identification business. Further details will be released after the deal receives clearance from both parties' legal departments. This process should be completed in a matter of days.


Just got more...I hope it goes up AND STAYS there this time.

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Malloy... i thought of adding also, but do you think it will dip below 8?
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quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
That was for ADPR Hippo... but DAMN! You're fast. I was editing that a half second after I posted!! You must have a well-used 'refresh' button, eh?
salemm.


Yes, Me and F5 are well acquainted! I KNEW that the L2 was for ADPR, Ive been roaming around a bit! i even went into the thread and saw the same post, but figured Id bust your chops a bit!


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You never know with those stocks. But if we follow the past charts, it did not. Support was very strong at .008. And honestly, I hope it won't...that would be a bad sign.

Malloy

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Malloy... i thought of adding also, but do you think it will dip below 8?
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I ve beeen looking at the chart. Doesnt seem to get much lower. ha! PR was supposedly confirmed today, but the last one dropped it, still not sure if I want to add or not@
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Holy Crap - We're tanking on low volume. .0081 now - Geeeeeeezzzzzz
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Now now, tanking is a little strong, save that for .0079. PRs have historically come out about an hour from now. Our time has almost come.
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Yeah - I guess you'r right - It's only about 8% - from yesterday - But I'm down over 40% - I just hope you guys are right. I WANT to believe - but I've had CEO's lie to me before......
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Now now, tanking is a little strong, save that for .0079. PRs have historically come out about an hour from now. Our time has almost come.


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.0081 just filled. I guess its time to get BIG or go home. We'll see.
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OK Roger - NOW bid's .0079

I sure hope it's just the calm before the GOOD storm - and not the Titanic


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Hold strong buddy, they are shaking us, im down couple grand on this too, the PR is coming.
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I guess it's fairly easy to guess why the price is ticking down... MMs want to load up at lower prices in order to sell later today after PR... when price will surely rise.
It's a real pissoff to watch, but what can you do.
Don't sell.
At the very worst, just imitate them. Buy lower as they are doing, and sell later today.
Of course, they're playing with millions in volume, so you wouldn't be at the same level. But, what's the alternative?
Wait for April 9th.
Those free shares are gonna be worth SOMETHING.
By the way, my opinion has zero worth... but I play by it and haven't contemplated jumping out a high story building yet!
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Did you guys see THAT go through????

2 million at .0085? With Bid/Ask BELOW .0082 Manipulation City. Part of Andrea's private stash?

"Read my lips - We are NOT diluting"!!!!!

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Thats exactly what happend before the last PR. Big block went through randomly way above the ask...
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Another 2.8 million just went throuh at .008, and then 3 came on Ask at .0083 -

Something may give SOON! Hope THIS is the PR that float's our boat!! LOL

Good luck to us all,
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Love The Market: How long have you been dealing with stock market? More specifically, how long have you been playing in the pennies??
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.0081 x .0084 - Can you SMELL a PR? LOL
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Hippo -

Started playing pennies in Aug. of 2002 - but got really busy in a new business in Oct. 2002 and didn't bother with them again til this past Sept, 2003 - so I was out for about a year. Studied the hell out of them and tracked 100's from MAy 2002 on.

Have made some good money with them - and lost too! THIS is the first stock I jumped into too soon without enough DD. MY fault.

Good luck to us all!


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It's THAT time! 12:20! Do WE know where OUR PR is?????? LOL

I was able to pull this off RB - Roger or anyone, do you know this guy?

By: tontoloveragingbull
19 Mar 2004, 12:11 PM EST
Msg. 28970 of 28881
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I just spoke with "Andrea" and he said he just signed the PR release, and that it would be comming out today...but...that was the first thing he said. I didn't even ask him about a PR? First off, disclosure..I own about 460,000 shares at @.0083....I called to get financial info which he didn't give me. He just said this PR would clear up their direction. I am currently doing a research paper on Market Manipulation for my Legal Environment on the Internet class...if this company isn't a real company, if they are not even close to being listed on the OTCBB, if the OS are more then the 34M that the company is stating, if this PR doesn't come out or the EU financing isn't real....would this company or CEO be gulty of market manipulation... ?

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uh... guys, not sure if this is known or not but here's an interesting little article from the sec's webpage... there's stuff about proactive, scroll down.
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/33-8308.htm

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
Securities Act of 1933
Release No. 8308 / October 23, 2003
Administrative Proceeding
File No. 3-11310
Cease-and-Desist Proceedings Instituted Against Lorsin, Inc., Loretta M. Lockhart, Craig K. Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Inc., George R. Siembida, Harold Engel, Jr., MicroCap Marketing, Inc., and Shane M. Nelson
On October 23, 2003, the Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission") instituted cease-and-desist proceedings against alleged Internet stock promoters Lorsin, Inc. ("Lorsin"), Loretta M. Lockhart ("Lockhart"), Craig K. Hjalmarson ("Hjalmarson"), Russell Management, Inc. ("Russell Management"), George R. Siembida ("Siembida"), Harold Engel, Jr. ("Engel"), MicroCap Marketing, Inc. ("MicroCap Marketing"), and Shane M. Nelson ("Nelson").

The Division of Enforcement ("Division") alleges that Energy & Engine Technology Corporation ("Energy & Engine"), a public company in Plano, Texas that maintains a natural gas gathering system, hired former stock promoter Siembida, of Depew, New York, and his company, Russell Management, to promote Energy & Engine on the Internet. Energy & Engine paid Siembida in stock that was improperly registered pursuant to a Form S-8 Registration Statement. (Form S-8 registration is not available for stock issued as compensation for stock promotion services.) Siembida subcontracted with Engel, who operates a small cap stock promotion website, WillyWizard.com, to promote Energy & Engine. To compensate Engel, Siembida transferred some of the shares he received from Energy & Engine to Engel.

The Division alleges that Engel, in turn, subcontracted with two other promoters, Hjalmarson and Nelson, to profile Energy & Engine on the Internet. Hjalmarson, of Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina, operates a website, GreedOrFear.com, through a corporation named Lorsin, which is headed by Lockhart, also of Kill Devil Hills. Nelson, of Bethany, Illinois, heads MicroCap Marketing, which promotes small cap companies on the Internet. Engel paid Hjalmarson and Nelson with a portion of the Energy & Engine shares he received from Siembida.

The Division further alleges that Engel and Nelson touted Energy & Engine on their websites, and that Hjalmarson distributed Energy & Engine press releases over the Internet. The promotion coincided with a 68 percent rise in the price of Energy & Engine's stock, from $0.29 to $0.49 per share, and average daily trading volume that was over 600% higher that the stock's historical daily volume. Siembida, Engel, Hjalmarson, and Nelson sold the stock that they had received for a combined total of over $14,000.

According to the Division's allegations, Siembida obtained the Energy & Engine shares in an unregistered offering with a view to distributing the stock to the public, making him an underwriter in a distribution of Energy & Engine stock. By participating in this distribution, Energy & Engine, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, Lorsin, Hjalmarson, Lockhart, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson violated Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act.

The Division also alleges that Nelson and MicroCap Marketing participated in a second illegal stock distribution with another small cap issuer, ProActive Computer Services, Inc. ("ProActive"). ProActive, a Houston-based computer services provider, hired Nelson and MicroCap Marketing to promote ProActive in exchange for a combination of restricted and purportedly unrestricted ProActive shares. ProActive arranged for a third-party shareholder to transfer 300,000 ProActive shares to Nelson's brokerage account. Nelson posted ProActive profiles on his websites and touted ProActive in his electronic newsletter. Nelson sold the ProActive shares he received from the third-party shortly after receiving them for $1,340.50.

The Division alleges that Nelson obtained the ProActive shares with a view to distributing them to the public from a person directly or indirectly controlling or controlled by ProActive, or under direct or indirect common control with ProActive. Therefore, the stock was restricted and could not be sold to the public for one year.

The Division further alleges that another issuer, whose stock was traded on the OTC Bulletin Board, hired Lorsin to promote it on the Internet. To pay for the promotion, the issuer directed two shareholders to transfer a total of 30,000 of its shares to Lorsin. Following the launch of Lorsin's promotional campaign, Lorsin sold a portion of the stock it had received from the issuer for $1,249.

According to the Division's allegations, Lorsin obtained the issuer's shares with a view to distributing them to the public from a person directly or indirectly controlling or controlled by the issuer, or under direct or indirect common control with the issuer. Therefore, the stock was restricted and could not be sold to the public for one year.

The Division alleges that Lorsin, Lockhart, Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson violated Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act. A hearing will be scheduled before an administrative law judge to determine whether the allegations in the Order are true and, if so, whether Lorsin, Lockhart, Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson should be ordered to cease and desist from committing or causing violations of and any future violations of Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act, and whether they should be ordered to disgorge the proceeds of their conduct.

The Commission directed that the administrative law judge shall issue an initial decision in this matter within 300 days from the date of service of the Order Instituting Proceedings.


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According to Phreee on RB - PR will be out between 2:30 - 3pm and another on Monday - but who knows for sure........
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I don't know why but It just doesn't feel like a PR day to me ...I hope I'm wrong though
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Hmmmm - if you try to go to co. website now, www.pacsi.com - you're redirected to their description on Pinksheets.com

NAme change?????? SOmething's up. Let's hope it's ALL good!

Steve


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To be honest, I don't see this jumping a whole lot today. I want it to, but I think we'll be lucky if it goes to .013 or so. I would love for it to up to .02, but with this stock...I just don't see that happening. I hope I'm wrong.
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Up to .013 would be a pretty good turn around on the day! I would be happy with that, and hopefully things will pick up with more good news.
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