I just go on what the majority like. And then cross my fingers. I was with SIRI for a while. Then I found this web site. NOW I am hooked. FOR now at least.
1.) PAVP has acquired CortDev Inc., a Canadian airport redevelopment/enhancement firm. CortDev's current project is the redevelopment of the St. Hubert airport in Montreal. CortDev has set a start date of mid-June that will involve a groundbreaking ceremony.
2.) PAVP will soon change its name to better reflect its current business operations and strategic plan going forward and plans to be fully reporting within six to nine months.
3.) PAVP has applied for a name and ticker symbol change and expects that it will be completed by the end of February.
4.) Due to the increasing workload in managing the company, PAVP has initiated a search for a CFO. The company expects to announce the nomination by the end of the month.
5.) Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share.
6.) Beral Inc. has entered into negotiations to secure a multi-million dollar investment in ProActive Computer Services Inc. The investors include a major European Financial Institution and private parties. The funds will be used to finance the CortDev Inc. airport re-development project, specifically to purchase capital assets. In addition, the funds will assist PAVP to attain OTC Bulletin Board status.
7.) PAVP has been in negotiations to acquire a fingerprint technology identification business for almost a year.
8.) The projections for each of the fingerprinting technology companies they are considering are at least $15M in revenues and profitable by 2005 when they expect their products to be ready for commercialization.
9.) Further details on the acquisition of the fingerprint technology identification business will be released on February 26.
10.) ProActive Computer Services Inc. was featured in the February 23rd edition of Barron's. As a result of this write-up PAVP has raised its credibility with the investment community and is attracting widespread investor interest. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "Since the issue hit the newsstands I have personally received numerous calls from institutional and private investors who expressed an interest to make a major investment in PAVP. I expect a number of these parties to invest in restricted stock in the near future, which will significantly increase our cash position and help us to fund our operations."
So there you have it, 10 great things that make PAVP a great investment, both in the short and long term. A great pick IMHO. Good luck everyone!
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Hippo, Do penny stocks eventually become real ones or do they throw them out and issue NEW ones when the price is high enough say over $1.00
They dont just throw out stocks.
Im new at this penny thing. just been wondering thats all? thanks Hippo
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Hippo Why do the stocks start out so low. Why dont they Start them at 1.00 instead?Im new at this penny thing. just been wondering thats all? thanks Hippo
I honestly dont know. A share is the reflection of the the company worth vs number of shares outstanding. If a company issues too many shares, or loses a lot of money, value decreases. Also, i think more people would be interested in investing in a new company if its a low share price!
still waiting...im hoping i get in before any news, i want to add to my position
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
damn, if i make it .012..wil that help my chances of getting executed?
it may...just sit on it! sometimes it takes a bit for pinks
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ive been talking about this baby for a week, and i can never get in!
ie tried .001 ---.0012 both at 15000 shares?
There is no rules on Pinks.
Malloy
[This message has been edited by Malloy (edited February 26, 2004).]
You might try to cancel and retry. If you broker deals with many MM, it might go to another one...but I don,t have proof of that...just a suggestion.
Like my broker told me: It's the wild wild west out there.
MM should mean Manipulation Madness!
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
well, i guess im screwed then
quote:
Originally posted by darogo:
the problem is that if you put in your bid @ .01, that means the price will have to go down to .0095 or so. to be safe, i'd do .011. just my opinion....
Dar, the ask on this is 0.01... It should be filled.... try to cancel and redo like others have recommended!
lets see what happens
ProActive Computer Services: Fingerprint Technology Acquisition Finalized
Thursday February 26, 12:26 pm ET
Update on Negotiations with Major European Financial Institution
HOUSTON, Feb. 26, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Other OTC:PAVP.PK - News) has finalized the acquisition of a privately held fingerprint technology identification business. Further details will be released after the deal receives clearance from both parties' legal departments. This process should be completed in a matter of days.
ADVERTISEMENT
Due to the high demand for this technology from the investment community, PAVP intends to spin-off this firm into a separate public entity. A public shell has been purchased by the company for that purpose. PAVP shareholders of record as of a certain date (to be announced after expected closure of deal and spin-off) would receive a specific number of shares in the public fingerprint company for each share of PAVP that they own.
CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: ``Biometric technology is an attractive and high-growth area to be in right now and with this acquisition PAVP is gaining a strong foothold in an industry expected to be a multi-billion dollar one by 2007.''
The multi-million dollar investment in PAVP is in final negotiations stages with the major European Financial Institution and private investors. The specifics on the contract will be released early next week once legal documents are finalized.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contact:
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi
514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
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Originally posted by salemm:
Seriously... look up... you'll see some giant guy standing there pulling on strings to make us all dance like fools!
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Ah... these lowly pink stocks!!
PR, no pr, what does it matter. Literally, flip a coin, and make your choice. It might go up, it might go down. Depends only on what shape the clouds have outside and their velocity in relation to earth's geomagnetic poles!
Why the run-up to 0.019 on Monday (that I MISSED!!)? Why a decreasing pps on this news (which is great news after all)?
Go figure!
salemm.
this could almost be expected! Stocks move NOT only on news, but also on sentiment/opinions. So, when the news was released stating that they would be acquiring a fingerprinting tech, the stock flew (to 0.19). Then it fizzled as people ran with their profits. It lingered only because of the hope for this PR. Of course, this wasnt ALL THAT. No company is named, nothing really. It just restated what they said in the last PR. GO FIGURE. So, now, all the people who were holding for the jump today cuz of the great news are disappointed and are dumping. Now you have two options. Follow suit, and get rid of shares, or wait, regardless of how long it is for this to fly! I believe it will go. I dont know how long it will take, and I dont know if i will be riding it up either!
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Originally posted by bloodynri:
yes. maybe in the not-too-long-run. But I was hoping of making money today.Will have to wait for Beral to start buying.
Anyone know when that is?
I would assume it wont be anytime soon. If their contract is to buy shares at 0.1, then they wouldnt start until AFTER the stock is worth 0.10, otherwise, they would be wasting their money. Of course, this proves that BERAL BELIEVES that this stock will be valued OVER 0.10!
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
this could almost be expected! Stocks move NOT only on news, but also on sentiment/opinions. So, when the news was released stating that they would be acquiring a fingerprinting tech, the stock flew (to 0.19). Then it fizzled as people ran with their profits. It lingered only because of the hope for this PR. Of course, this wasnt ALL THAT. No company is named, nothing really. It just restated what they said in the last PR. GO FIGURE. So, now, all the people who were holding for the jump today cuz of the great news are disappointed and are dumping. Now you have two options. Follow suit, and get rid of shares, or wait, regardless of how long it is for this to fly! I believe it will go. I dont know how long it will take, and I dont know if i will be riding it up either!
hell, you think it can get to .05?
whats the date? will they only grant shares to people who have been holding pavp for a year? or what?
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
really hippo??? you think that beral buyin at .1 will make it go down?hell, you think it can get to .05?
superman, you misunderstood me!! I didnt say beral will make it go down. From what I understand, BERAL will NOT BE PURCAHSING shares until AFTER it is at 0.10 already. They have a deal that allows them to purchase shares at 0.10. Meaning, if theoretically the stock hits .15, beral can purchase at 0.10. Someone correct me if i am wrong, which is possible, but this is my understanding!
well let me ask you this....when do you think this could reach .1? or .05?
thanks hippo
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
really hippo??? you think that beral buyin at .1 will make it go down?hell, you think it can get to .05?
From the way its acting today I would say nope.
Ryan
any idea when we might get a price between .05 and .1?
I am holding this > GMDP, QBID, CMKM, PCRC and another shell with very very low float, TGHI.. They all could run any day, or next yr..
Good luck all. I wonder what the shell stock is that they bought, I have this list that I found of shell companies, check it out >
http://www. shellstockreview .com/ssrShellsByMV.htm
on of my fav's here is CJCL, if you know any one that has on info on this one fill me in.. PLEASE.
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
once the no shorting rule passes...what exactly does that mean??? i read the release but didnt see how it would affect me?
Not positive about this stuff either, but I found an interesting post on RB. Any comments on this from anyone?
VFIN NAKED SHORTS DONT BY WHEN THEY ARE ON THE ASK!!
GUYS LISTEN TO ME, READ THIS IN MORNING..
DO NOT BUY WHEN VFIN IS ON THE ASK PERIOD!!! they are naked shorting this one to death, esp today at 0.0098! I WROTE VFIN INFORMING THEM THAT i WOLD USE MY fbi CONTACT along with another investor here who is a retired FBI agent.. as soon as I diod that about 10 minuted later VFIN cleared the ask!! THEY GOT THE MESSAGE and im very serious, if I see them do this again I will get the FBI to investigate them along with my reired FBI friend who invests here but stays off the board.
DO NOT EVEN BUY OFF THE BID!!! they will just sell you there, dont buy period WHEN VFIN IS UP ION THE ASK!! WE WILL TELL YOU THIS WHEN WE SEE THEM UP ON THE ASK.
iF YOU REALLY WAN TO BUY MAKE A BID IN BETWEEN BID/ASK or use an mm to up bid but dont bid to ask bid right below i
IF VFIN IS NOT UP ON THE ASK is ok to buy off the ask,, you will just be buying fake shares!!
ALSO SET YOUr SELLS ALL YOUR SHARES FOR A GTC ORDER AND WRITE YOUR NBROKER KINDLY DEMANDING THEY DO NOT ALLOW YOUR SHARES TO BE BORROWED, IF ALLOF YOU DO THIS THIS PPS WILL ROCKET AND WE WILL STOP VFIN COLD..
I have kindly written VFIN making them aware that we are aware of their actions thur their mm. so an intermet search "VFIN AND NAKED SHORTING" and you will see what i mean. trust me on this!! and do your won dd to verify what i amn saying. currently i have a decent amount of PAVP investors that are aware on with me on this.
dont be fooled.. DONT BUY FROM VFIN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!
ceh level 2 and seek to go around vfin bud right under them, anything BUT DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!!
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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by opiate94:
Not positive about this stuff either, but I found an interesting post on RB. Any comments on this from anyone?VFIN NAKED SHORTS DONT BY WHEN THEY ARE ON THE ASK!!
GUYS LISTEN TO ME, READ THIS IN MORNING..
DO NOT BUY WHEN VFIN IS ON THE ASK PERIOD!!! they are naked shorting this one to death, esp today at 0.0098! I WROTE VFIN INFORMING THEM THAT i WOLD USE MY fbi CONTACT along with another investor here who is a retired FBI agent.. as soon as I diod that about 10 minuted later VFIN cleared the ask!! THEY GOT THE MESSAGE and im very serious, if I see them do this again I will get the FBI to investigate them along with my reired FBI friend who invests here but stays off the board.
DO NOT EVEN BUY OFF THE BID!!! they will just sell you there, dont buy period WHEN VFIN IS UP ION THE ASK!! WE WILL TELL YOU THIS WHEN WE SEE THEM UP ON THE ASK.
iF YOU REALLY WAN TO BUY MAKE A BID IN BETWEEN BID/ASK or use an mm to up bid but dont bid to ask bid right below i
IF VFIN IS NOT UP ON THE ASK is ok to buy off the ask,, you will just be buying fake shares!!
ALSO SET YOUr SELLS ALL YOUR SHARES FOR A GTC ORDER AND WRITE YOUR NBROKER KINDLY DEMANDING THEY DO NOT ALLOW YOUR SHARES TO BE BORROWED, IF ALLOF YOU DO THIS THIS PPS WILL ROCKET AND WE WILL STOP VFIN COLD..
I have kindly written VFIN making them aware that we are aware of their actions thur their mm. so an intermet search "VFIN AND NAKED SHORTING" and you will see what i mean. trust me on this!! and do your won dd to verify what i amn saying. currently i have a decent amount of PAVP investors that are aware on with me on this.
dont be fooled.. DONT BUY FROM VFIN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!
ceh level 2 and seek to go around vfin bud right under them, anything BUT DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!!
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
ooooooh, seriously can't go wrong with DDSI now. It sits at .0035, an amazing price in my op.
salemm.
best ask is at 0.004. You really cant go wrong at this point!
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
on some other message board sites some people are talking about .10 for pavp by wedsnday? thoughts?
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
on some other message board sites some people are talking about .10 for pavp by wedsnday? thoughts?
*AHEM* pumping *AHEM*
I'd hate to sound negative, but I have trouble believing that! This WILL go, I have faith. I dont think we can expect 1000% gains by wednesday!
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
There's so much going on with this co...
In my op. they'll be pr no doubt next week. Usually, the price stagnates when pr comes out. Price soars a couple of days BEFORE PR comes out. That's why I'm hoping for a 0.12 close today, and a big rise from there on Monday in anticipation of PR that week.
Subject of PR?
Could be new listing on OTCBB;
New name;
Confirmation of fingerprinting tech they are acquiring (probably this one next week);
Projections on revenue, etc...
A combination of all these at the same time would really boost this sky-high.
Can anyone talk about the link between PAVP and DDSI? Hippo, what does your dd say?
Thanks,
salemm.
Salemm, I wish I knew about the connection, but here goes:
I have been told that I read into things to much, and that MAY be the case here, but in the PR yesterday (2-26) PAVP states that they are in the final stages of acquiring a "privately owned fingerprinting company." I took privately owned to mean not publicly listed, hence NOT DDSI. Of course, in the DDSI thread, a member states that his friend in Merryl Lynch said that DDSI was about to be bought out by a big company. (RUMOR) Could there be a connection, DEFINITELY! Can I really comment on it? I WISH. Maybe Im reading too far into the PR, maybe the rumor will turn up false. Maybe it will all fall into place, and we will be rich! Lets see. All I know is that up until about 2:00 pm today, volume forr DDSI was stagnant at 400K... now it is up to 1,181,000. Leads me to believe something is up, and next week will be an interesting week!
the man of steel has your back!
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
in the PR yesterday (2-26) PAVP states that they are in the final stages of acquiring a "privately owned fingerprinting company." I took privately owned to mean not publicly listed, hence NOT DDSI.
That is exactly correct in my opinion, and is probably part of the reason that DDSI is down today - it went up when people thought that PAVP might acquire it, and so since that PR, it is down.
yeah hippo...i was curious about that too. i asked one of my friends that works at Merrill Lynch to find anything about. anyhow, i bugged him and finnaly he found that they apparently are going to be bougth by another big company. could not find the name of that company 'cause according to him have not been disclosed yet...i got in last week in the big pop. entered at 0.008 and got out at 0.016 with half of my shares. kept the half of my position as free shares. it is not a big position (only 25000 shares) so i am not too worry about it. i am thinking to increase my position if it starts getting some movement though...good luck
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if we are!!! woo hoo!
Greg
im just gung ho,, i invest kinda all or nothing
ive made some good money though i think
yahoo dwcsuperman
aol supermandwc
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Earth_Shaker
quote:
Originally posted by networm:
I'm new to PK stock.
I want to know if stop limit order that works for Nasdaq stocks applies to PK stocks.
If it works, I will feel safer to trade them. Thank you.
I know that Ameritrade will NOT allow trailing stop orders on pink stocks, or ANY stock that trades on the OTCBB exchange. I suppose that it keeps these stocks from just completely crashing. Other brokers may be different, however I must say that I doubt it.
quote:
.....Still need to find out what DD means. this being only my first week trading Pennies and all. thanks HippoEarth_Shaker[/B]
DD=Due Dilligence
or so I'm told! GLTY
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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"
Cant wait until April,, Dam naked shorts from hell.
quote:
Originally posted by EdragonL:
what is a resasonable price to buy it at rite now?
look for around .01 or .011
BTW, congrats to Earth Shaker on your success. Have you sold and actually put the 500 in your pocket? or is it just based on the value?
Thanks hippo
any more advise for the NEWB. me...
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Nope. Still have them all. I will be waiting until it doubles before I sell half.
I also bought some gzfx ... HEARD it was a good company ?Thanks hippo
any more advise for the NEWB. me...
GZFX is a great company. And you got in at a level we didnt think it would hit again!Congrats. and YES, I DO HAVE ADVICE: You did not make a penny until you sell. You may think you made 500 bucks on PAVP already, but realize, that the bid/ask exists. This means that you dont necessarily sell at the highest point of the day, rather at the highest bid. Another thing, expecially with OTC and pinks: these stocks fluctuate BIG TIME and are usually pretty erratic. If you think you made 500 bucks, you look back a minute later and you are down 500. You REALLY have to stay grounded. Just the other day I was up $1000 on a stock. I looked back in a minute and it was down to like 200!
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Will PAVP run this Monday morning as it has in the past? I'm banking on it. Opinions before the bell?
salemm.
Im not sure if there is anything to push it up today
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Sold everything on the rise this morning. Something very strange happened: E-Turd is E-Turd, after all, but they're usually super fast at filling an order. So PAVP goes to 0.015 this morning and stays there for at least 5 minutes. That would usually be 4.5 minutes longer than I need to sell at 0.014 .
However, my order wouldn't fill!! Volume was rising to 10 mil, still no fill. Started chasing downward... (cause I need to cash out bad!)0.013?? Nope! Finally, 0.012 filled.
A week's hold for a measly 0.002 x 400,000 shares.This one left a bad taste in my mouth.
Just got a very bad feeling... like E*Turd was purposely NOT filling my order. This has never happened in my experience before.
Strange. What does it mean. Dunno.
salemm.
sometimes pinks do funny things... did you check what the bid was when it hit 0.015?
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Sold everything on the rise this morning. Something very strange happened: E-Turd is E-Turd, after all, but they're usually super fast at filling an order. So PAVP goes to 0.015 this morning and stays there for at least 5 minutes. That would usually be 4.5 minutes longer than I need to sell at 0.014 .
However, my order wouldn't fill!! Volume was rising to 10 mil, still no fill. Started chasing downward... (cause I need to cash out bad!)0.013?? Nope! Finally, 0.012 filled.
A week's hold for a measly 0.002 x 400,000 shares.This one left a bad taste in my mouth.
Just got a very bad feeling... like E*Turd was purposely NOT filling my order. This has never happened in my experience before.
Strange. What does it mean. Dunno.
salemm.
I have seen this quite often with E*TRADE. I suspect that they deal with one or two MMs and you don't always get the best price because of that.
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This is the fourth time I see this MM do that in the last week.
I suspect he's there to keep the price low cause everytime there's a run, he moves the ask price just a bit lower and stays there.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
VFIN still jamming the stock so it can,t climb back up.This is the fourth time I see this MM do that in the last week.
I suspect he's there to keep the price low cause everytime there's a run, he moves the ask price just a bit lower and stays there.
Malloy
didn't someone e-mail them about this and claim that they were going to get the FBI involved? I think we should do that AGAIN!
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
didn't someone e-mail them about this and claim that they were going to get the FBI involved? I think we should do that AGAIN!
You said it, Kent! That's EXACTLY how I felt. I'm still feeling like I got screwed, bigtime, right in the $hitchute. Gotta get off my azz and do something about E*TURD. I've been with them so long... I'm just too damn lazy to do the paperwork.
Anyway... back to Qbid now (speaking of $hitchute, LOL!!) See where my exit is on that one.
salemm.
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 01, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Yep. I read that. Someone's got to take care of this scam.Malloy
who exactly is VFIN?
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
who exactly is VFIN?
It sucks...but that's the price we pay for low fee commission trading.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
it makes me a little worried about qbid too actually, cuz they will screw with my exit points!
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
One of the MM
I know he is an MM, but who is he... Dont they each represent a firm?
One thing I know is, the same pattern again.
VFIN goes a bit lower and shorts everyone and NITE chase him....so, the stock falls.
This is frustrating.
Malloy
We know somme MM are shorting it but resistance seems to be holding.
Will see in the next few days.
Malloy
PR from February 17 say:
"PAVP has applied for a name and ticker symbol change and expects that it will be completed by the end of February."
Me thinks this will be happening very soon.
Cant wait until April fools day.. LOL, MM's that are shorting the heck out of this know this is going to be the last time we look like fools.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
GZFX is a great company. And you got in at a level we didnt think it would hit again!Congrats. and YES, I DO HAVE ADVICE: You did not make a penny until you sell. You may think you made 500 bucks on PAVP already, but realize, that the bid/ask exists. This means that you dont necessarily sell at the highest point of the day, rather at the highest bid. Another thing, expecially with OTC and pinks: these stocks fluctuate BIG TIME and are usually pretty erratic. If you think you made 500 bucks, you look back a minute later and you are down 500. You REALLY have to stay grounded. Just the other day I was up $1000 on a stock. I looked back in a minute and it was down to like 200!
Lets keep the overly pup POS stock on the right board. Don't even start witht that one..You people that don't read filings are due to get burned, that one is sure to do it..
***MUST READ*** They Emailed Me Back:
I am responding on behalf of the CEO Andrea Cortellazzi. The capital structure that you mentioned below is accurate. I did confirm these figures with my controller today. We have a strong relationship with the Market Makers. The company is currently debt-free as the $4.5M mentioned is based on commitments from financial institutions. We are evaluating other options to finance such as private investors. We have five employees who compose the board of directors and advising team. PAVP is no longer involved in web and computer service since it was part of the former regime and is no longer profitable or revenue-generating. We expect to finalize the name and ticker symbol change by the end of the month. The PR Friday is favourable for investors.
If you have any other questions or concerns please do not hesitate to e-mail me back.
Good Luck,
Public Relations Advisor
I Wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Cortellazzi@sympatico.ca
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: Questions From An Investor:
To Whom It May Concern:
A few questions regarding "our" company:
Is this accurate:
500,000,000 shares are authorized
180,000,000 shares are restricted with additional 35 to 40 million shares restricted. They will be unrestricted in a year.
52,000,000 shares are in public float.
Are you checking with your controller today?
Do you have a good relationship with the Market Makers?
Is your company debt free? $4.5 mil Mentioned in last pr.
How many employees do you have?
Is your company dropping web and computer service?
When do you expect to see the company name change?
Are you putting out another PR Friday (2/13), do you see it as favorable for investors?
Thank You For Your Time
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Because the fingerprinting technology is going to be a spinoff company... what is PAVP's business then ??
Beral Inc.'s strategy is to restructure PAVP as a merchant bank or a holding company for valuable international assets and ventures.
Read the PR for Feb. 17th.
I am a PAVP long all the way.
Im just wondering how LONG everyone else is on here? I was thinking of selling between .03 and .05 but now im not so sure..with all the good news that seems to be ready to come, maybe it can go higher?
HOUSTON, Feb 17, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Beral Inc. has developed an acquisition strategy for ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) following the announcement that it has become an active shareholder of the company. Beral Inc.'s strategy is to restructure PAVP as a merchant bank or a holding company for valuable international assets and ventures. Mr. Andrew Racz (International VP of Finance) has identified several European financial institutions and investment management companies that would like to transfer their assets, specifically those worth at least $1M USD, into PAVP. Negotiations are proceeding well with these firms and details of the acquisitions will be announced shortly once they are finalized. Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share. Thus, PAVP's cash flow is unaffected by its contract with Beral Inc.
Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share.
we keep hearing about this baby could be at .04 in a week or two...so lets see it!!!
I am very very impressed with everything he had to say over the phone today and he was very nice and respectful to me. It seems that he has been getting lots of phone calls the last few weeks and yet he did not seem angry or tired of dealing with investors like myself.
Just thought I would pass this info along to everyone...hope it helps!
Can't wait to find out who the h*(&*&l he is.
Anyway, if we get that PR, all will be behind us.
Malloy
So...to make the stock go up, what is the number of issues and float we want to hear from the PR?
i have no idea if this guy is telling the truth. Did that agis thing actually happen?
and is it possible for pavp, even to .5?
But don,t believe everything they say if no news are out.
If there's a PR, it will be after the bell. Now, as long as VFIN is there jamming the stock, it won,t fly up.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
i heard on another board that people were comparin PAVP to AGIS, and that the financing deal could send it into an upward spike. the guy told me that agis went from .01 to .77 in 2 days and that this could happen with PAVP!i have no idea if this guy is telling the truth. Did that agis thing actually happen?
and is it possible for pavp, even to .5?
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
i heard on another board that people were comparin PAVP to AGIS, and that the financing deal could send it into an upward spike. the guy told me that agis went from .01 to .77 in 2 days and that this could happen with PAVP!i have no idea if this guy is telling the truth. Did that agis thing actually happen?
and is it possible for pavp, even to .5?
maybe not tommorow, but a few days or a week?
Bill,
Further details on the fingerprint business will be in the next PR. We are
looking into the naked shorting issue as we speak.
Good Luck,
George
PR Advisor
I hope they take the Naked Shorts and drag them through the streets so all of us can show them how we really feel..
If we get the new ticker, funding, business, ect ect like they say we will and the float is 260mill like I have heard this will go through the roof! It better because instead of using my 2.5 yrs of experience on trading pennies, and taking a chance here and not putting it all into MOBL like I told my self to do,, I could be RICH today instead I have to wait.. AGAIN!
If this suckers goes down and does the nasty R/S or any of the above, I will be haunting some one down for sure!
See ya.
and its a losing battle. impossible to predict. but i would love to hear thoughts on this.
this is Just a feeling (maybe ESP) -----
GOOD LUCK to everyone !!
Dream and your wishes will come true !
Earth_Shaker :P
I ask cuz im curious what others think. of course its impossible to 100% right, but if i ask 100 people, and 99 of them say that .03 is attainable...that does mean something. it means that 99% of the people i asked think thats acheivable. it doesnt mean that it will happen, but when i hear that others think the same, then it lends SOME creedance to a theory. Thank you. GOD BLESS AND GOOD NIGHT.
HOUSTON, Feb 17, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Beral Inc. has developed an acquisition strategy for ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) following the announcement that it has become an active shareholder of the company. Beral Inc.'s strategy is to restructure PAVP as a merchant bank or a holding company for valuable international assets and ventures. Mr. Andrew Racz (International VP of Finance) has identified several European financial institutions and investment management companies that would like to transfer their assets, specifically those worth at least $1M USD, into PAVP. Negotiations are proceeding well with these firms and details of the acquisitions will be announced shortly once they are finalized. Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share. Thus, PAVP's cash flow is unaffected by its contract with Beral Inc.
Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share
Aquisition alone would drive the price up, but add, exercisable at $0.10 per share, and one's mind begins to roam. However, we are playing with penny stocks which means anything can happen. GLTU
apologies for testy remark
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Just to clarify, J : did he say PR would mention paid fees for OTCBB listing as well... or just clarification on number of shares? Thanks.
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
This pretty much says why this company is getting so much recognition lately:HOUSTON, Feb 17, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Beral Inc. has developed an acquisition strategy for ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) following the announcement that it has become an active shareholder of the company. Beral Inc.'s strategy is to restructure PAVP as a merchant bank or a holding company for valuable international assets and ventures. Mr. Andrew Racz (International VP of Finance) has identified several European financial institutions and investment management companies that would like to transfer their assets, specifically those worth at least $1M USD, into PAVP. Negotiations are proceeding well with these firms and details of the acquisitions will be announced shortly once they are finalized. Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share. Thus, PAVP's cash flow is unaffected by its contract with Beral Inc.
Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share
Aquisition alone would drive the price up, but add, exercisable at $0.10 per share, and one's mind begins to roam. However, we are playing with penny stocks which means anything can happen. GLTU
I TOOK A SMALL POSITION AT .0095.. THE PRICE AS BEEN FLUXUATING FROM .009 OT .015 EVEN WITH OUT NEWS. LETS HOPE FOR SOME GOOD NEW AND A 50% GAIN. TAKE YOUR PROFITS AS THIS HAS NOT BEEN HOLDING THE INCREASES. JMHO.
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DIANA
First of all, I got this info from pinksheets.com: Shares Outstanding: 34,800,000 as of 2004-01-27
Then I thought I would just do some history checking on volume. Here's what I found.
Open Close Volume
2/9/04: .0013 .0015 3,145,000
2/10/04: .0016 .0049 61,866,700
2/11/04: .0055 .008 31,604,200
2/12/04: .0095 .018 44,881,100
2/13/04: .023 .01 65,893,200
2/17/04: .009 .011 30,965,900
2/18/04: .0115 .0094 26,363,400
2/19/04: .0095 .009 12,070,300
2/20/04: .009 .012 60,978,600
2/23/04: .0145 .0147 72,057,300
2/24/04: .016 .0095 75,625,900
2/25/04: .01 .009 91,605,400
2/26/04: .009 .01 75,766,600
2/27/04: .01 .012 40,928,000
3/1/04: .014 .01 125,296,000
3/2/04: .011 .0092 36,995,000
I don't know how big of a deal this is or how bad it is, but one thing I think is that there has been some dilution going on here. If the figure from January 27 were still correct, it would mean that the entire shares outstanding traded over three times in the same dya on Monday. Plus the volume on days it went up big was only 44-65 million and these are the days when it usually has a lot of people daytrading.
Like I said, I don't really know how big of a deal this is, but I just thought I would point it out and see what everyone had to say about it.
I'm out-
Funny how PAVP and DDSI move the same way. My ticker shows them both at 25% up.
Maybe some truth to that rumour...or just coincidence.
Malloy
My first gain...
Hope I'm not supposed to sell it yet.
Adam
I'm starting to think PR will have no effect. Too much anticipation has dissipated any 'surprise good news' effect. Before opening bell would have been perfect for me.
Anyhow... I see VFIN was at it again this morning. How I wish to turn on the news one day and see someone named V. FIN being let to jail in handcuffs... for pissing off so many people. LOL.
salemm.
Where in the hell is this news we are suppose to have? Im just thankful that im a patient person, cuz this is the biggest tease ever. If i wanted this, i would have taken my 1500 bucks to the strip club!
still thinking about the strip club though!
"GOOD NEWS...I AM A GREAT DETECTIVE
I dont make up this story. I called CUSIP service to find out.
CUSIP said the cusip number was assigned to ProActive Computer Services, Inc in july, 2000. The cusip number is
742662109.
GREAT NEWS I beat everyone
Gerald at CUSIP said that a new cusip was just assigned this morning for CortDev inc. The cusip number is 220498109.
I dont lie...call 212 438 6500 and ask for Gerald at Standard and Poor Service.
Disclaimer: doyour own dd."
By: maninfla
03 Mar 2004, 01:22 PM EST
Msg. 11243 of 11249
Jump to msg. #
OS confirmed by TA yesterday via fax
"the total outstanding shares for proactive computer services inc as of friday february 27, 2004 was 603,169,465 common shares. i do not have information as to how many shares are "held for investment" nor an estimate as to what the "float" may be. this is all the information available at this time
if you should wish further information on this company, our hourly rates are $90.00. a deposit minimum of four hours is required in advance for all reports"
quote:
Originally posted by John Galt's Abnormal Twin:
Woo hoo!My first gain...
Hope I'm not supposed to sell it yet.
Adam
NOW NEWS ON PAVP?? THAT WOULD HELP!!
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Whoa! A 5 million buy... ABOVE the ask!!
That's $50,000, one shot, folks!
Someone vewy, vewy, rich.
salemm.
with so much demand, why does our price keep dipping?
Nothing is keeping us there except VFIN.
Malloy
bid
1x.0088
4x.0085
5x.0080
ask
1x.0092 (VFIN)...as usual
1x.0093
1x.0094
1x.0095
4x.0100
1x.0130 (not much after that)
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by darogo:
it's all a big scam. i do my dd, i weigh pros, cons, blah blah blah, everyone thinks it'll go up. news comes, news goes, the stock goes down. everyone blames it on the MMs. it's always the MMs fault. well, between this, qbid and lbtt, i'm about broke. what a scam this penny market is....
there are a lot of people who will say otherwise!! its tough, its NOT EASY, and its never going to be a cake walk. Different people have devised different strategies for trading. Maybe a different one is better for you. If you are new to this, you have to understand that you will incur losses at first, but you have to go on until you find what is right for you. Honestly, there are weeks when I agree, and others where this load of malarki really pays off. Sometimes, also, you really have to blame yourself for not making proper decisions. I did it with DDSI, we all do. Take your losses and go on!
quote:
Originally posted by darogo:
it's all a big scam. i do my dd, i weigh pros, cons, blah blah blah, everyone thinks it'll go up. news comes, news goes, the stock goes down. everyone blames it on the MMs. it's always the MMs fault. well, between this, qbid and lbtt, i'm about broke. what a scam this penny market is....
Maybe your trading strategy needs to be asessed. I am unaware of any stock on any exchange that is monodirectional.
I have CMKM, PAVP, TGHI.. thats all as of yesterday.
With the respones I have got from the CEO, and some clarifactions on some concerning matters, lots of DD, but pure speculative at best, which penny stock is not,, I am going to hold until months end..
Good luck.
Just about every and I mean every stock has its pull back where you thought it would never go back to,, MOBL from .01-.06 then back over time to .018 before its big run, and it even had great news when it was .018, just know one was holding, PGHI/GZFX from .005-.03 then back to .01 before its big run, 9 ot of 10 do just what PAVP is doing,, there was a time when I would panic and sell the first chance I got (RMEC withdraws lol) but I have no bad feelings on this one, somethings tell me it will all work out,, .0093 helped confirm my feelings that we shoke the shorts big time to day!!
IMHO with out a doubt, do your own DD, live and learn the hard way just like most of us..
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Not sure if PR will be out today, but consider this:
If PR was to be released this weekend, anytime after closing Friday... think what that would do to the usual Monday morning 3-5 point rise. Check history for Mondays... always a healthy 3-5 point rise in AM. Add a PR in weekend... the buildup for buys would push pps substantially higher (assuming the PR is noteworthy). We could perhaps expect 0.018-0.02 or more (depending on PR). That's a double, or near so for most, and a great exit in my op.
Wadayathink??
salemm.
(i wish it was 3-5 points) either way, that is based on the hope of the PR, with each day that we dont get a PR, people will give less and less of a crap about PAVP, ESPECIALLY if something big comes out. If you guys remember QBID, you will no what I am talking about!
Finally!
Malloy
PR will be released this afternoon according to George Abisaleh, PR Advisor.
georgeabi@rogers.com
salemm.
----- Original Message -----
From: RubenMacedo@aol.com
To: cortdev@sympatico.ca
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi
Me and a group of investors are thinking about buying 10-50 million shares of your company. However, reading over the last press release issued on 02/26/04 there is a statement about releasing a press release with more detail early next week. Furthermore, it is now mid week and no information is out yet; therefore, until we read the specifics we can't make our decision just yet.
I know you have a busy schedule; however, we are extremely serious about investing in ProActive. A detailed press release would be appreciated since we are waiting to buy a large amount of shares.
Sincerely,
Ruben Macedo
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From :
George Abisaleh
Subject :
Re: Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi
Sent :
Thursday, March 4, 2004 2:53 PM
Ruben,
A press release will be with more details on a number of issues, including financing and acquisitions, will be released today. I trust it will be to your satisfaction. If you require any more information regarding the company, please feel free to e-mail me.
Good Luck,
George
PR Advisor
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 04, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by brian2361:
I just bought PAVP at .009. Do you guys think that's a good entry point?
damn good entry point IMO. If this stock goes up, and down between .009-.018 like it has been doing in the recent past, you should be sitting pretty.
yes, it is play money, but it would be nice to make more play money!
good luck!
quote:
Originally posted by darogo:
sorry i was bitter the other day. yes this stock does have MUCH potential. i plan on holding for awhile. hopefully these press releases will do us all good.yes, it is play money, but it would be nice to make more play money!
good luck!
quote:
Originally posted by yoyostocks:
I am in, thanks for the inside DD there! I appreciate it. You sure the news it coming today not tomarrow
I'm getting more than frustrated...I'm getting nervous about them.
I have a lot in this and I'm not bashing but if no PR comes by monday, I'll be very worried.
Malloy
Now...let's go!
Malloy
Reading the PR is very plaisant :-))
Malloy
Would hit 0.01 if not of him.
Malloy
This is finally going has all of us new it would....YES!
Malloy
Thursday , March 04, 2004 15:30 ET
HOUSTON, Mar 4, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) has reached an agreement with a major European Financial Institution. The Institution has committed to a $5M financing package for PAVP; consisting of $1M in cash to purchase equity in the company and a $4M revolving credit facility. As a result of this deal and PAVP's new presence in the European Union (EU) investment community, the company has decided to apply for listing on several major European stock exchanges. PAVP is intent on capitalizing on the enlargement of the EU to include ten new member states on May 1st, 2004. This is a great opportunity for the company to gain initial access to over 100M new investors entering these markets, following their accession to the EU. To take advantage of this unique situation, PAVP has applied for a listing on the Budapest Stock Exchange and the Prague Stock Exchange, with more to follow. PAVP has received preliminary acceptance of its application to the respective stock exchanges as it has met the basic listing requirements.
PAVP is in serious discussions with private and public parties in other countries that have expressed a strong interest in investing a significant amount of capital. Details of the negotiations will be released once a letter of intent is signed with any of these parties.
Update on Fingerprint Technology Acquisition
Lawyers on both sides have reached an agreement and are finalizing the documents to complete the acquisition. PAVP would have liked to release the full details of the acquisition today, but due to unforeseen administrative delays it will be made public on March 9. PAVP has successfully purchased a public shell as stated in the February 26th press release. The company name and ticker symbol will also be provided on March 9. The fingerprint business will undergo a reverse-merger into this shell with current PAVP shareholders receiving spin-off shares in the new company. The spin-off distribution ratio (i.e. number of distributed shares in new company for each PAVP share held) as well as the shareholder date of record has not yet been determined. The company expects to release these details as well on March 9.
Addressing of Shareholder Concerns
PAVP has received several calls regarding the status of the name change to CortDev Inc. Fees were paid two months ago to complete this process. The company is still awaiting the new CUSIP number and ticker symbol, which should be assigned in a matter of days. As stated in prior press releases, the company is determined to complete this name change as soon as possible in order to accurately reflect its current business operations. Shareholders have also expressed concerns regarding the number of outstanding shares. According to the transfer agent, as of February 27th, 2004, there are 603,169,465 total issued and outstanding shares. This figure includes all restricted shares that have been issued to consultants and those held by the management team and insiders, including the CEO. In an effort to keep all investors in PAVP updated and well-informed with respect to current and future company developments, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi requests that all interested shareholders e-mail their full name and address (residence and e-mail) to cortdev@sympatico.ca. They will be sent a pamphlet on the CortDev Inc. project, which will include architectural images of the airport property under redevelopment and further details on the timeline. In addition, timely updates on the company's progress with respect to the CortDev Inc. project and fingerprint technology business will be e-mailed to the shareholder list.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contact:
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi, 514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
SOURCE ProActive Computer Services Inc.
CONTACT: Andrea Cortellazzi of ProActive Computer Services Inc.,
+1-514-830-3348 or cortdev@sympatico.ca
(PAVP)
http://www.prnewswire.com
Copyright (C) 2004 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
"PAVP is in serious discussions with private and public parties in other countries that have expressed a strong interest in investing a significant amount of capital. Details of the negotiations will be released once a letter of intent is signed with any of these parties. "
They can't say that if not true....o'ya!
Malloy
I am not sure what to do, that PR was much better then I expected.
MARK MY WORDS, THIS ONE IS A GIFT FOR EVERYONE ON THE PAVP BOARD WHO CONVINCED ME TO BUY IN.
HOUSTON, March 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) has reached an agreement with a major European Financial Institution. The Institution has committed to a $5M financing package for PAVP; consisting of $1M in cash to purchase equity in the company and a $4M revolving credit facility. As a result of this deal and PAVP's new presence in the European Union (EU) investment community, the company has decided to apply for listing on several major European stock exchanges. PAVP is intent on capitalizing on the enlargement of the EU to include ten new member states on May 1st, 2004. This is a great opportunity for the company to gain initial access to over 100M new investors entering these markets, following their accession to the EU. To take advantage of this unique situation, PAVP has applied for a listing on the Budapest Stock Exchange and the Prague Stock Exchange, with more to follow. PAVP has received preliminary acceptance of its application to the respective stock exchanges as it has met the basic listing requirements.
ADVERTISEMENT
PAVP is in serious discussions with private and public parties in other countries that have expressed a strong interest in investing a significant amount of capital. Details of the negotiations will be released once a letter of intent is signed with any of these parties.
Update on Fingerprint Technology Acquisition
Lawyers on both sides have reached an agreement and are finalizing the documents to complete the acquisition. PAVP would have liked to release the full details of the acquisition today, but due to unforeseen administrative delays it will be made public on March 9. PAVP has successfully purchased a public shell as stated in the February 26th press release. The company name and ticker symbol will also be provided on March 9. The fingerprint business will undergo a reverse-merger into this shell with current PAVP shareholders receiving spin-off shares in the new company. The spin-off distribution ratio (i.e. number of distributed shares in new company for each PAVP share held) as well as the shareholder date of record has not yet been determined. The company expects to release these details as well on March 9.
Addressing of Shareholder Concerns
PAVP has received several calls regarding the status of the name change to CortDev Inc. Fees were paid two months ago to complete this process. The company is still awaiting the new CUSIP number and ticker symbol, which should be assigned in a matter of days. As stated in prior press releases, the company is determined to complete this name change as soon as possible in order to accurately reflect its current business operations. Shareholders have also expressed concerns regarding the number of outstanding shares. According to the transfer agent, as of February 27th, 2004, there are 603,169,465 total issued and outstanding shares. This figure includes all restricted shares that have been issued to consultants and those held by the management team and insiders, including the CEO. In an effort to keep all investors in PAVP updated and well-informed with respect to current and future company developments, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi requests that all interested shareholders e-mail their full name and address (residence and e-mail) to cortdev@sympatico.ca. They will be sent a pamphlet on the CortDev Inc. project, which will include architectural images of the airport property under redevelopment and further details on the timeline. In addition, timely updates on the company's progress with respect to the CortDev Inc. project and fingerprint technology business will be e-mailed to the shareholder list.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contact:
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi, 514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
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Source: ProActive Computer Services Inc.
quote:
Originally posted by flemdog:
We closed at .011. I am anxious to see tomorrow morning.
My streamer is showing a close of .013...
Greg
quote:
Originally posted by emunahstock:
I need some guesses as how high this will go tomarrow as I will not have computer access.
I think .018 is a given. Anyone think twice that?
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 04, 2004).]
dont get me thinking about that!!!
damn, i only have 125,000 shares...thats bubkis! if it gets above .06 it would be hard for me not to sell.
Earth_Shaker
P.S. I was in at .0095 and Out at .012 a profit of almost $600. not bad for a week and a half of watching my computer screen.
Thank you HIPPO !!!
i was looking at hopfully around .05 -.07?
what do you think?
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Hippo Hippo Hippo, You da man. I guess for a new guy I have learned something today. Stocks go up on PR and stocks go down when there is no PR. But I think I have found my trading style these past two weeks and I am Richer for it. From now on I will no longer worry if stocks go UP or DOWN. Just trade them and put a smile on my FACEEarth_Shaker
P.S. I was in at .0095 and Out at .012 a profit of almost $600. not bad for a week and a half of watching my computer screen.
Thank you HIPPO !!!
Glad I was of assistance.... Dont forget me when youre RICH!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by supermandwc:
flemdog.... what do you think a better selling point is within a week or so?i was looking at hopfully around .05 -.07?
what do you think?
No. This stock will go up, yes! It WONT go up 500-700% Look back... Not two weeks ago this stock was trading at like 0.004. It already made a huge run BASED on the assumption that a lot of things were happening. Now that these things happen, this is just like a confirmation of the things that happened. We will go up. I DOUBT we will hit 0.05 within a week. I HOPE i am wrong!
Im no trading pro, but I think I can just give you a few remedial pointers so you dont get disappointed in the future!
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Ciao! Good Luck!!
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
No. This stock will go up, yes! It WONT go up 500-700% Look back... Not two weeks ago this stock was trading at like 0.004. It already made a huge run BASED on the assumption that a lot of things were happening. Now that these things happen, this is just like a confirmation of the things that happened. We will go up. I DOUBT we will hit 0.05 within a week. I HOPE i am wrong!
quote:
Originally posted by JOED5500:
I thought they had said it was a private company they were trying to acquire.. and now it says "PAVP has successfully purchased a public shell as stated in the February 26th press release.".....does anyone know if its a "public" or "private" company....or any ideas.....
JoeD, read again... I think you misunderstood. They purchased a PRIVATE company as well as a shell. They will then spin the fingerprint company into the shell (making it a public company) and use the shares to trade the fingerprint company! Does this make sense?
quote:
Originally posted by profit prophet:
Lets not forget Ibzt it was .0019 then when news hit it climbed to .08 then back to .05 and again .08 and so on. all this within a matter of a week or two. I believe Pavp can do better what do you guys think?
I stress again, I HOPE i am wrong. Ibzt was an exciting case, but I dont think it can be used as the norm. If you are using it to say "anything can happen" I agree. I am NOT saying PAVP cant hit .05-7 in a week. I hope it does. I just wouldnt go out and buy a new car in anticipation of this happening!!! TRUST ME, I will repeat this, I HOPE PAVP FLIES HUGE!!!
Congrats and GLTA
BTW......John Gault, a special congrats to you! You're the first person I gave advice to on a stock that actually was good! LOL Probably the last too!! LMAO
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
I was in at .01....this is a wonderful day. Patience is a virtue and almost always pays off when it comes to stocks...just let them come to you. So what is everyones take on tomorrow....you guys holding or in it for a couple weeks? This sounds like it could be good long term...imagine if it goes up to .5!!
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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"
[This message has been edited by GHOST (edited March 05, 2004).]
Adam
I'll keep a close look at this one...and when I say a close look...I live about 30 minutes from the St-Hubert Airport(see PR below). It's the second big attempt to do something with this place. The first one fail due to a lack of financing. Now that this new company have money to go forward, well....good vibs.
(...)Monday , February 09, 2004 14:49 ET
HOUSTON, Feb 09, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets:PAVP) has finalized the acquisition of CortDev Inc., a Canadian airport redevelopment/enhancement firm. CortDev's current project is the redevelopment of the St. Hubert airport in Montreal
(...)
http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/news.htm?eid=3.1.5c567bf0490503be437a131ecc3dd23d6ced849954ce725e719009666c3f888e
Got it!
As soon as I get more hard info, I'll post it.
Now, for the fingerprinting...got to look more into it. For me, the acquisition of Cortdev is the key.
Good night.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Was just thinking... DIANA has got some good instincts... she bought this week too.
Malloy... worries are over for now, no?
Good luck to all tomorrow... whether you sell or hold. Either way, we all win.
salemm.[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 04, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
Let's get ready to RAHUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEE
I LOADED UP ON THIS LAST WEEK HOPING FOR GOOD NEWS. I WISH I KNEW WHAT COMPANY THEY ARE AQUIRING.
CAN I GET A WOOOT WOOOT....
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DIANA
Taking the train with us!
It's goona be a nice ride if the MM don't spoil de party.
Malloy
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
make that .0165
Thanks,
Keith
But, again, that is only an overexited prediction and we all know that emotion should never be the judge when investing in stock.
Have a good day.
Malloy
[This message has been edited by Malloy (edited March 05, 2004).]
[This message has been edited by Malloy (edited March 05, 2004).]
would be nice. I'm just curious as to how many spinoff shares we'll get...and who will get them. I bought 50k on 2/25, and 40k more on 3/03...not too many shares, but I'll take the profit...
in 15 minutes we are already at half the 10 day average...
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by bloodynri:
whats the peak? last week it hit 0.019 in the AM and that was the peak. is 0.017 the peak?
highest i have seen was i beleieve 0.022
we are leveling off as people who felt burnt last time sell off!
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
yea, we need some L2....we are leveling off as people who felt burnt last time sell off!
You can flip a coin on this one. But taking profit is always a wise thing to do. On the other hand, waiting for a bigger profit is risky, but risk pays sometimes.
your call.
Malloy
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Originally posted by bloodynri:
wouldnt it be wise to sell now as 0.017 looks like the max for this run and buy again next week at 0.009 or so? it did this last week, i could be wrong.
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Originally posted by bloodynri:
wouldnt it be wise to sell now as 0.017 looks like the max for this run and buy again next week at 0.009 or so? it did this last week, i could be wrong.
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Originally posted by John Galt's Abnormal Twin:
Thanks, Opiate, for the advice! I was just thinking how much you rocked while I scrolled down on the page. My couple of my dad's friends are brokers (btw I'm 19), and they were all tsk tsk-ing me on penny stock trading yesterday night, apparently. Well HA!Adam
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
what are you guys doing now??
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i'm holding- let's see how it's doing monday just before the bell
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Originally posted by salemm:
Wondering if I should have sold at 0.017 and bought again this aft.
Wondering if instead there might be a steady climb this afternoon as people want to get in before weekend and Monday gapper.
salemm.
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PAVP is 10x the price of QBID and 100x CMKM.
A lot of money changing hands....
Malloy
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The stock was drag down as low as possible because of anticipation of a very good PR. Then, all those that bought at 0.009 are selling for 60% to 100% profit.
Now, if the game continue like an usual one, we should see the stock drag down again this morning as low as possible. Where is that, I don't know, but there will be pressure for it to go down. After that, buys should come back for the monday anticipation of another good PR.
This is a well played Pink Pong Match.
Malloy
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Originally posted by cyberrat67:
While I was tempted to sell at about .017 this morning, seeing as I'm averaged at .0096, I held off, since I both want the spinoff shares, and I think Tuesday's news will be extraordinary...
I dont know that you will get spinoffs. A lot of times, short term holders dont get them, just the people who have had the stock for a while. The specifics, of course, will be released in the PR on monday!
I've had this stock for a couple weeks...so maybe I'll get in on it...I can only hope...and hope that the shell is PCRC...I hold that too...
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thats the st hubert airport that they are redeveloping. Its larger than i expected!
GLTA , dz
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Originally posted by stock_82:
I can't belive the price is at .013...I don't think we have much to worry about...it was oversold because all the quick profit people are getting out. Now that they are out...the rest of us don't want to sell and this afternoon more people are going to want to get in for the gap on monday and tuesday. NO WORRIES
dz
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
anyone who is good at reading charts, check the 2 day chart. we closed at 0.013 yesterday, gapped up today, then came back to fill the gap at 0.013, now we are leveling off, and maybe even starting an uptrend. Give me your opinions!
Malloy
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/quebec/en/airports/yhu_bus.htmthats the st hubert airport that they are redeveloping. Its larger than i expected!
MM spreading in the ask and VFIN is at 0.019.
Malloy
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
anyone who is good at reading charts, check the 2 day chart. we closed at 0.013 yesterday, gapped up today, then came back to fill the gap at 0.013, now we are leveling off, and maybe even starting an uptrend. Give me your opinions!
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Have a nice day.
Malloy
ask now
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Malloy
I'm holding off selling to see what the scoop is on the spinoff...I DOUBT I'll get any, only been holding since late last month...but it will be nice if I do get it...
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
ACTUALLY, I do know something that you guys dont know =D And its prettty relevant!
I DO know that I got my days mixed. And thats not just RUMOR, thats a bloody fact!! =)
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Originally posted by bloodynri:
OK, I had sold at 0.16, made a pretty good profit. Am back in again at 0.0135
Looking to make more on tuesday!
GOOD LUCK ALL !
I love this stuff !
Good plan, i woulda done it too, but my money wasnt settled
Greg
i think im gonna sell half and let the free shares ride.
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Originally posted by supermandwc:
is .05-.07 in a week or two crazy? im getting a good feeling, but after today's sluggishness i dont know. what do you think?
I started about 8 mos ago with $1000, 2 stocks. Now 5 stocks, average $1500 per stock. When I bought I would sell at a dbl, sometimes get lucky and get a triple. Can't get greedy. Every time I have I took a loss. I have had about 10 stocks sold at a %50 loss so they aren't all winners.
Good hight and good luck.
Greg
Greg
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Please sign up or just sit back and hope the SEC takes care of it for you.. Yeh right!
http://www. investigatethesec .com/index.html
I also like shells, I have PCRC also, here is a good link to shell companies, one that really stands out that I don't own is CJCL, I have posted that one here before for any info on it but I have not heard any thing yet except there filings state the have no business, but the PR's state differnt. I guess its a BK stock, Not sure!
http://www. shellstockreview .com/ssrShellsByMV.htm
Fill in gaps also.
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Originally posted by flemdog:
Late day surge! The volume has picked up late in the day and people are trying to get in before tomorrow. What is the deal with the fingerprinting company? People are saying that they don't think they will get any. Why? Do you think that it will be shareholders on record from two months ago or something? Ideas?
Im pretty sure its just long term shareholders. Of course, the details will be announced tomorrow. CANT WAIT!!
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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"
sounds good, its about time, this guys does what he says he is going to do, so far that is, its not over to the last "short MM sings the blues"
I also have been hearing about more shares issued, did you ask him about this, he needs to stop that zhit! Or I will be long gone! And my group.
See ya.
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Originally posted by MiggyTrader:
Is too late to get into PAVP this morning? Or should I go for it?
I personally dont think it is too late to get in, but that depends on your trading strategy. I FIRMLY believe PAVP is on its way up. The only question is how long it will take? This may FLY on todays news, although I doubt it. Im more a believer that we will slow and steady our way up with progress! I THINK (opinion) that a lot of other holders at this point feel similiarly, so, the retrace shouldnt be too big (as far as profit takers are concerned)
dz
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Thanks, dz
What makes you so sure about PAVP this afternoon? Do you know this CEO to be reputable. MANY of them lie to shareholders. I've spoken to 2 in the past - both liars. One actually said "No RS EVER" and a month later - BOOM!
Also - if the PR comes out - how high do you think it may go?
Thanks for your input,
Steve
" In an effort to keep all investors in PAVP updated and well-informed with respect to current and future company developments, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi requests that all interested shareholders e-mail their full name and address (residence and e-mail) to cortdev@sympatico.ca. They will be sent a pamphlet on the CortDev Inc. project, which will include architectural images of the airport property under redevelopment and further details on the timeline. In addition, timely updates on the company's progress with respect to the CortDev Inc. project and fingerprint technology business will be e-mailed to the shareholder list."
I have never seen another penny stock company do something like this before.
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Originally posted by Special J:
This is from the last PR and demonstrated a lot to me about the CEO's respect for the shareholders." In an effort to keep all investors in PAVP updated and well-informed with respect to current and future company developments, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi requests that all interested shareholders e-mail their full name and address (residence and e-mail) to cortdev@sympatico.ca. They will be sent a pamphlet on the CortDev Inc. project, which will include architectural images of the airport property under redevelopment and further details on the timeline. In addition, timely updates on the company's progress with respect to the CortDev Inc. project and fingerprint technology business will be e-mailed to the shareholder list."
I have never seen another penny stock company do something like this before.
agreed! BTW, did you email them with your info, and I await the info to come in the mail. Of course, its only been about 2 business days, but I cant wait!
dz
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Originally posted by Special J:
This is from the last PR and demonstrated a lot to me about the CEO's respect for the shareholders." In an effort to keep all investors in PAVP updated and well-informed with respect to current and future company developments, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi requests that all interested shareholders e-mail their full name and address (residence and e-mail) to cortdev@sympatico.ca. They will be sent a pamphlet on the CortDev Inc. project, which will include architectural images of the airport property under redevelopment and further details on the timeline. In addition, timely updates on the company's progress with respect to the CortDev Inc. project and fingerprint technology business will be e-mailed to the shareholder list."
I have never seen another penny stock company do something like this before.
dz
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Originally posted by denzen:
My buy @ .0146 is not filling...?dz
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Originally posted by denzen:
Finally filled! Puts my APPS at .014.dz
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congrats on getting filled
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Lunch break.
ANyone for level 2? Give me a minute.
Malloy
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Originally posted by 2ndrow:
I keep seeing these 500,000 blocks being passed around. I think the MM's are passing them back and forth to look like sales. I have no idea if this is true, but someone holding 500K today when news is expected at any time would surely not dump at this point in time.
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Originally posted by penny_stock:
what is the max we can expect today.
This is a rough estimate, but the max for today is INFINITY
I got in for 100,000 at .0142 and my son got a little over `155,000 at .0145
Will be watching for the BIG news!
Good luck to us all!
Steve
Press Release Source: ProActive Computer Services Inc.
ProActive Computer Finalizes Acquisition of Fingerprint Technology Company
Tuesday March 9, 2:22 pm ET
HOUSTON, March 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: PAVP - News) has finalized the acquisition of a privately-held fingerprint technology company, Digitalus Technology Inc. (DTI). Under the terms of the agreement, PAVP acquired DTI in exchange for cash.
About DTI
DTI is a provider of innovative and effective biometric solutions and products for commercial use. A corporate website is currently under construction at the following address, www.digitalustech.com. DTI specializes in advanced fingerprint technology and its applications in the public sector. The company is currently developing fingerprint-based biometric devices targeted to the airport and airline industries. These products would enable airports and aviation-related centres in the US to comply with the several pieces of legislation related to homeland security. In addition, these products will also capitalize on the initiative by President George Bush to protect the US-Mexico border by positively identifying and screening any travelers at the entry ports. DTI is also working on products/solutions to enhance PC/Network security in the government and corporate sectors. The company expects that these airport-security and PC/Network devices will be ready for commercialization by the fourth quarter of 2004. DTI will be hiring several vendors throughout the US to market the devices. DTI's goal is to achieve profitability by the end of 2005 with at least $15M in annual revenue.
Spin-Off Details
PAVP will perform a reverse-merger of Digitalus Technology Inc. into a public shell, which should be completed in two weeks. The name and trading symbol of the public shell will be released in a matter of days, once it receives legal clearance. Shares of the public shell will then be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004. PAVP shareholders will receive .01 shares of the public shell's common stock for each share of PAVP common stock owned.
Status of Name Change
A new CUSIP number has been assigned and the company is awaiting the new trading symbol, which should be available very soon. A press release will announce the new name and trading symbol once it is in effect.
Finally, CEO Andrea Cortellazzi would like to sincerely thank all the shareholders who e-mailed their contact information for the CortDev pamphlet and e-mail updates. PAVP is very committed to maintaining strong investor relations and maximizing shareholder value.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contact:
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi, 514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
Thanks for your opinions,
Steve
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Originally posted by Love the Market:
HOLY CRAP - .008??? in 2 minutes ??? I've NEVER lost money so fast in my life
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
patience! hehe
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
Im not sure that this can be accredited to MMs. This stock was inflated due to the anticipation of the PR, and frankly this wasnt THAT great! Expect a name change. When that happens, we MAY jump. I think people were hoping to hear more of that in thsi PR!
I hate to disagree w/ ya Hippo but this stock dropped too quickly too fast. MM's were certainly shorting this one. Can someone post Level 2 to confirm
I had to phone in my order to scottrade and by the time I palced it at .0085, it climbed all the way back to .01. GRRRRRRRRRR!
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Now it's back to .013 - ANY opinions on what happened and where we go from here??
Thanks,
Steve
dz
From what I've read - BERAL can NOT excercise their warrants til pps is .10 - so I thought THEY'd be doing something to get it there?????............
TIA,
Steve
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Originally posted by Love the Market:
OPiate..... ANY idea what happened here?From what I've read - BERAL can NOT excercise their warrants til pps is .10 - so I thought THEY'd be doing something to get it there?????............
TIA,
Steve
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
DID NO ONE READ THIS???? In retrospect, i guess it was MM shorting. I didn't watch it drop, nor did I realize it dropped so quickly. Either way, patience was key here... OPIATE: I am upset with you! Well, you live and you learn!!
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Originally posted by stock_82:
i got you hippo...the MMs were shorting so they drove the stock down so they wouldn't lose their money...now they are letting it go back up....i wish i could have gotten in at .008 again...any chances of it getting down there again...
if it goes there again, expect it to stay there and trade sideways a bit. (MY OPINION). we should hopefully move up, or at least hang around some previous support of around 0.011-12
imho,dz
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Originally posted by The Hippo:
DID NO ONE READ THIS???? In retrospect, i guess it was MM shorting. I didn't watch it drop, nor did I realize it dropped so quickly. Either way, patience was key here... OPIATE: I am upset with you! Well, you live and you learn!!
Clarification on Today's Press Release Issued for ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Tuesday March 9, 4:08 pm ET
HOUSTON, March 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- To address investor concerns regarding today's press release, ProActive Computer Services (PAVP: Pink Sheets) issues the following statements. As a result of the acquisition, PAVP's capital structure remains the same. There is no change to PAVP shareholders' holdings. The acquired fingerprint technology company Digitalus Technology Inc. will be merged into a public shell owned by PAVP. All shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004 will receive 10 shares of the new company for every 1000 shares of PAVP owned. The name of the public shell and the trading symbol will be released by the end of the week.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
Love the market asked
OT: Opiate -
What makes you so sure about PAVP this afternoon? Do you know this CEO to be reputable. MANY of them lie to shareholders. I've spoken to 2 in the past - both liars. One actually said "No RS EVER" and a month later - BOOM!
Also - if the PR comes out - how high do you think it may go?
Thanks for your input,
Steve
Live and learn. Luckily I only bought and sold 60K shares.
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Originally posted by dilemma25:
there has been a re-release....Clarification on Today's Press Release Issued for ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Tuesday March 9, 4:08 pm ET
HOUSTON, March 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- To address investor concerns regarding today's press release, ProActive Computer Services (PAVP: Pink Sheets) issues the following statements. As a result of the acquisition, PAVP's capital structure remains the same. There is no change to PAVP shareholders' holdings. The acquired fingerprint technology company Digitalus Technology Inc. will be merged into a public shell owned by PAVP. All shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004 will receive 10 shares of the new company for every 1000 shares of PAVP owned. The name of the public shell and the trading symbol will be released by the end of the week.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
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March, April then May this will rock.
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Originally posted by roger7485:
Yes MM had something to do with it. But I beleive we can place most of the blame on the misreading of the PR. People initially seemed to think that you would be TRADING IN your PAVP shares for these new shares, in essence ending up with one kind of new share. The re-release was to clarfiy that your position in PAVP will not be effected, but you will just be given 1 share of the spin off for each 100 shares of PAVP you own. The market was still processing this misunderstanding until the close and I beleive we will have a good day tomorrow!!
Roger I agree, people where to eager to sell and it land slided after that,, funny I just sat back and watch, wish I could have bought more @ .008.
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Originally posted by salemm:
With all due respect to those who... bailed out... are frustrated, etc...
I gotta say... I feel good about this. I was in at 0.0095 quite a while ago... saw it go to the mid teens and back down again. Yes, I could've bailed earlier today or yesterday for profit... but why not hold on?
New name;
Free shares;
New technology;
Consistent PRs that (almost always)make the price rise;
Listing(s) in Europe
Serious, interested investors (European?)...
If your looking for a fairly solid investment, short or long, this is it. Bet we see mid-teens by Monday again.
Thank God I only crapped my pants instead of selling today during the panic
salemm.
Don't forget the Potentail Govement contracts for home land security.. When people really site down and reread this pr they will be back with no doubt.
One other thing that probably happened were peoples stop losses were triggered with the sudden decrease, causing a major sell-off.
Just some things I have been thinking about.
Best of Luck and I think we will have a good day tomorrow.
obviously the company felt they screwed up the press release so they clarified. hopefully this make people realize what's really going on and buy buy buy....
The pr said .01, which is 1/100th, so for every 100 shares of PAVP, you get 1 share of the new company, which is the same ratio as the second PR 10 for 1000.
Go PAVP GO.......
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Originally posted by 2ndrow:
I realize that it is the exact same ratio as the first PR and that is why I am saying that I don't understand the need for another PR saying the exact same thing as the first. I am not saying that we will be receiving the 1 to 10 number, but I was expressing my misunderstanding of issuing a correction to a PR that says the exact same thing. Sorry if I got some people thinking that I meant that it was a 1 to 10 ratio. Best of Luck
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Originally posted by 2ndrow:
I realize that it is the exact same ratio as the first PR and that is why I am saying that I don't understand the need for another PR saying the exact same thing as the first. I am not saying that we will be receiving the 1 to 10 number, but I was expressing my misunderstanding of issuing a correction to a PR that says the exact same thing. Sorry if I got some people thinking that I meant that it was a 1 to 10 ratio. Best of Luck
I think the reason for the second PR was because some people thought the first PR was saying that we would be trading our PAVP shares in for this new company. I may be wrong, but I think the only reason for the second PR was to let people know that it would not take away your PAVP shares.
Read the first paragaph..
I also like this from the PR,, any one remember ADZR!
President George Bush to protect the US-Mexico border by positively identifying and screening any travelers at the entry ports. DTI is also working on products/solutions to enhance PC/Network security in the government and corporate sectors. The company expects that these airport-security and PC/Network devices ect ect ect..
I think there is to much uncertainty for some investors, its hard to see whats behind door number 2, is easier to take a small profit or a loss and go else where then take a chance here, that there loss,if everything they say is true in there PR's this could be hugh!
Should be interesting tomorrow and the end of the week when here more about the new cusip # and ticker.
CMKM change its ticker I also have shares of.
Malloy
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Originally posted by flemdog:
All day I said MM's doing this. Many people thought otherwise until the price went up. They drove price down to cover or get more shares. The price was never going to end the day under .009 like I said. It was people panicing and allowing themselves to be manipulated. This is a good company who does what they say they are going to do. Many pennies do not. Buy more at these levels and watch what happens. When the spinoff shares are around the corner you are going to see huge buy's. Why wouldn't you. I am gonna buy as much as I can afford until then, get my shares, and then see what happens. Believe people and if you are here to just play the pr's you might want to invest in more underwear.
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Originally posted by darogo:
yep, it'll be interesting tomorrow. the thing that i don't really understand (and i am new to this), is they're saying that for people holding the stock as of april 9, 2004, will receive shares of the other company as well. so what's to stop people from loading up on PAVP to get the free shares of the shell?
and if that's the case, you'd expect people to hop on it and the pps to go up.
weird stuff....
Generally after a dividend has been paid the price of the stock falls by the amount of the dividend. So you could load up on the 9th for the dividend but you tak a chance the price will fall the next day. And for a dividend of 1/100th per share is it really worth it?
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THis stocks doesn't respond to any logic I know. In a couple of months, I will have fun analysing what when on in the last few weeks...and what's coming. For now, I have no more predictions to make...I'm totally in the fog.
:-))
Oh well. I don't think it can go lower that last weeks low, so, I'll probably make money some day.
Malloy
Why?
Heum!
I can only offer speculative opinion.
- This company will be great and they want more stock so they manipulate the price (they can for a little while...as long as the buy pressure's not too great)
- This is a scam and the insiders are selling like crazy
- The MM are shorting the stock
- Shares are diluted...will get a new account for outsanding shares in April
- None of the above :-)
- All of the above :-))
- It's wednesday
- It's still winter
- My dog (that I don't have) is barking at the birds
- ...
Malloy
About this PR though, I can only assume it will come tomorrow then?
salemm.
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Originally posted by brian2361:
What happened to the PR? I wasn't really expecting another PR out today, because the PR yesterday said we would get some information very soon, but I didn't take it to mean the very next day. I'm thinking more like the end of the week or maybe early next week.
GLTA,
Steve
I was going to email you all about this message but, I decided to post it on here for others to read including bashers. Firstly, I want to reiterate that pavp is in great shape and you should not be concerned. Our pps should have been in the 3-4 cent range by now. The reason to that is we have MMs manipulation, swingers, and bashers working in fullforce. They all want you to have mix emotions especially to new investors. I have reported many to the TOS and directly to the SEC. Just in matter of time these bashers are going to be prosecuted heavily. Everything that you have read in the previous prs holds to its every word. Andrea was in NY today working on a major deal and more likely will go through. Name and ticker symbol change will be released tomorrow or no latter than friday evening. That has been finalized and the comptroller probably approved it today. They're handling the pr and ready to release it any minute. Major european financing is underway in matter of days to come. Expect that pr to come out soon as well. Of all the other positives that was mentioned in the last prs, the info I described above is done and ready to be released any minute. To that end, I will not say anymore and don't ask me to extend the details. Just do your DD carefully and the best advice is for you to do your own DD. You don't have to hear it from me... Just pick up the phone and call Andrea. He is extremely nice and patient. He will talk to you and spend time with you. Important, do not let the bashers deter your investments and that goes with any stock. Just put them on ignore and report them to the TOS. The TOS will send their ID's to the SEC with their IP addresses for tracking purposes. Pavp is bigger than most of you imagine! Peace and out.....
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Originally posted by salemm:
From Pavp's biggest supporter on RB. I've followed his lead a few times... always turned out to be 100% accurate in his statements. Take it for what it's worth.
salemm.
Isn't that a foward statement, why can't you just let it be, when the PR's are released then so be it, why must we have to email and phone the company every day, I know for a fact that posting emails and giving out foward statements can only hurt the company, I have shares and I'm pretty sick of all the games that other people including the company it self have been doing lately, I hope that this all stops soon! If people would just let the company do its job and stop with all the crazy foward statements we would have no problems.
This is a major concern and I hope is resolved soon or this will get real messy.
Just leave well enough alone.
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Originally posted by justastock:
Isn't that a foward statement, why can't you just let it be, when the PR's are released then so be it, why must we have to email and phone the company every day, I know for a fact that posting emails and giving out foward statements can only hurt the company, I have shares and I'm pretty sick of all the games that other people including the company it self have been doing lately, I hope that this all stops soon! If people would just let the company do its job and stop with all the crazy foward statements we would have no problems.This is a major concern and I hope is resolved soon or this will get real messy.
Just leave well enough alone.
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
Isn't that what a message board is for...to share tips, leads, new info, personal DD, etc. I personally enjoy hearing about personal DD finds and conversations with CEO, etc. Some of them may not be true and some of them may be true, but I highly doubt that anything that is said in this message board can have a significant impact of the price of the stock...you just gotta take the comments for what they're worth...I appreciate everyones DD on this stock and their posts...
Giving out insider/foward statment like there will be a PR today can get us in big trouble! That insider info go read the rules on the SEC.
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
Isn't that what a message board is for...to share tips, leads, new info, personal DD, etc. I personally enjoy hearing about personal DD finds and conversations with CEO, etc. Some of them may not be true and some of them may be true, but I highly doubt that anything that is said in this message board can have a significant impact of the price of the stock...you just gotta take the comments for what they're worth...I appreciate everyones DD on this stock and their posts...
One more thing, you are soo wrong about it not impacting the stock, notice how it tanked after the news came out,, are you blind! Every one knew the PR was coming out, and all sold when it did, I think the CEO needs to get it togather and stop telling day traders/naked short MM what is going on..
quote:
Originally posted by emunahstock:
TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHART, THAT IS WHY I AM BACK IN, BEAUTIFULL!
http://quotes.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=PAVP
it does look prepared to do its usual song and dance
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quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Anyone see that sexy hammer we are forming today? If we get news we could wind up with a very small head on the top of that hammer or maybe even go above a cent.
HAHA, FORGET IT! I was going to make a comment about a head on my hammer, but forget it!!! Im just in a good mood today!
PAVP: Reported on by Investment Forum
Thursday , March 11, 2004 11:32 ET
Investment Forum profiles Proactive Computer Services Inc (OTC: PAVP) on their web page.
PAVP designs and develops Internet strategies and online business process outsourcing solutions.
PAVP has a current price of $0.00810 per share.
According to the Investment Forum disclaimer, InvestmentForum.net has recieved 100,000 restricted & 100,000 free trading shares of PAVP for its profiling.
As long as this MM's there, we won't see going up again.
Malloy
VFIN now at 0.0094...steady climb
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
.009 now!! the PAVP train is pulling out the station....get on board.
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
.009 now!! the PAVP train is pulling out the station....get on board.
Roger That! In at .0083 Missed the low.
All aboard!
quote:
Originally posted by sick money:
I tried all a.m. and did not fill at .0085 I am sure that will cost me so money today.
quote:
Originally posted by sick money:
I tried all a.m. and did not fill at .0085 I am sure that will cost me so money today.
Who's your broker?
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quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
NEWSPAVP: Reported on by Investment Forum
Thursday , March 11, 2004 11:32 ET
Investment Forum profiles Proactive Computer Services Inc (OTC: PAVP) on their web page.PAVP designs and develops Internet strategies and online business process outsourcing solutions.
PAVP has a current price of $0.00810 per share.
According to the Investment Forum disclaimer, InvestmentForum.net has recieved 100,000 restricted & 100,000 free trading shares of PAVP for its profiling.
InvestmentForum.net
Paid pumper
quote:
Originally posted by sick money:
E-trade, it seems like I have had pretty good luck in the past but I have only been doing this for a month or so.
You should be getting filled everytime you have a buy for more than the last. If your order was confirmed that is. I know there are exceptions to this rule but in general this is the way it should work, like 90-95% of the time. You may be getting another opportunity to fill here shortly!
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Standing on the ASK right now at .0087, we are moving on up. No more hammer referrences in hopes of stifling any innuendo from other forum members
LOLOL...its ok....I can handle myself!
I'm holding on, but it seems like it's gunna be a while before I'm back in the green. Any idea as to how long?
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Sorry i let you guys down, somehow I got into this one at .014.
B
can you hold til april? With the new rule, it will be tougher for MMs to short this stock. And this stock is being shorted big time!
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Sorry i let you guys down, somehow I got into this one at .014.
B
Dude your in a bit high but your fine!!!! you can get back out sometime in the next 3 days I would bet. Look for a high on friday possibly.
quote:
Originally posted by TheRealSlimShady:
For those of you who enjoy makin the rebound money with PAVP try playin GYFY the same way. Buy around .0020 and sell around .0027 over and over its like cake baby!!!
i cant get charts on gyfy on neither stockcharts, nor stockta
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
did u mean gfyf?
YES SORRY TO ALL !!!! ITS GFYF!!!!
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dz
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quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Hey have we ever done a share count? How much of this stock does this board own?? And on pinksheets.com it says that there are only 34,800,000 shares as of Jan-27 of this year. I cant beleive there are still only that many. Does anyone have an updated O/S count? I hold 1,290,000 shares.
quote:
Originally posted by opiate94:
I thought this was an interesting post:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2578084
Thanks for the info. I thought it was interesting also, hope this pr does come out today.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
I look forward to it...i started with PAVP as a quick in an out, but now im like addicted!
I started the same way but now am holding for the spinoff.
MMs and Daytraders may make their profits here and there.. but this is a solid company with so much going for it, than most other penny stocks I own. This is definately a keeper. The Company owners cant even sell anything until its at .10+ So you know they are trying their best to a steady ride up.
quote:
Originally posted by WiseTrader:
Definately worth holding.. I havent been buying/selling much since I know this stock will be worth so much more, I just cant risk playing musical chairs and then POP it flys... As the PR Advisor of PAVP says, "Those that are in PAVP for the long term will benefit."MMs and Daytraders may make their profits here and there.. but this is a solid company with so much going for it, than most other penny stocks I own. This is definately a keeper. The Company owners cant even sell anything until its at .10+ So you know they are trying their best to a steady ride up.
I too was hopeing to make a quick profit on the pr that was coming out and got hammered like a nail ( in at .0125 ) but after I did some more DD to decide to sell or hold I liked what I saw and am now holding long term.
quote:
Originally posted by poorman:
I started the same way but now am holding for the spinoff.
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Bid/Ask just moved to .009/.0095 We are moving today folks.
YAHOOO!! And thanks for the L2
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quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
I think this stock is just looking for a reason to go up...MM's are no longer shorting it, so with a PR this will move nicely.
Gotta go cut up a tree I sawed down earlier this A.M. Check back w/u folks later.
GLTA
One hypothesis was that the company was dumping but with that PR...it can't be. So?
What the H..L are we doing at .009???
Anyway. Like I said before. IN a few months this will be a good case to study.
Level 2
bid
2x085
2x081
3x080
ask
2x090 (VFIN..as usual)
1x095
2x105
VFIN must have sold Zillions of this stock in the last 2 weeks.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Just came back. Saw the news. What's wrong with this stock?One hypothesis was that the company was dumping but with that PR...it can't be. So?
What the H..L are we doing at .009???
Anyway. Like I said before. IN a few months this will be a good case to study.
Level 2
bid
2x085
2x081
3x080ask
2x090 (VFIN..as usual)
1x095
2x105VFIN must have sold Zillions of this stock in the last 2 weeks.
Malloy
I think alot of people bought at .008 and dumped with the good news at .011 to .012, which caused it to drop a little. No worries, I think it will rise slowly this afternoon and hopefully close around .01 to .011
That's not to comforting when I bought at .0142 planning on good news and saw it drop 40% as soon as the GREAT news came out. And today - we're no better off now than we were just before the news. In fact we're lower.
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Stock_82That's not to comforting when I bought at .0142 planning on good news and saw it drop 40% as soon as the GREAT news came out. And today - we're no better off now than we were just before the news. In fact we're lower.
I'm just gonna get drunk this entire weekend, and hope that people buy more of this next week. I don't see anything wrong with this stock in the short term, or long term? WTF???
Anyway, check ADPR. They have just filed financials an hour or so ago... awesome results! price jumps 5 cents! They will bundle this info into legible jargon and will issue PR, due out today or Mon-Tues. Price will jump again in my op.
THAT'S the regular behavior of a stock.
Anyhooo.... just felt like posting something... haven't in a while and felt left out.
salemm.
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This is probably the ONLY stock I WISH I had NEVER bought. I've won and lost on MANY - and I've seen lots of manipulation - but NEVER like this one.
Good luck to us all - I was hoping this damn PR today would send it up into the .02's just so I could get out with a little of the profit I was looking forward to. Now - I'm just hoping we hurry up and get back to even + a little!
Enjoy your weekend all,
Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
I call that a power close!!
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God will bless us all.
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Ok guys I have some good and bad news. And note that the following is just my opinion. After researching this company more and examining its press releases, I have a feeling that this could be a scam. Now before you scramble off to sell or something rash like that, let me explain. The website for digitalus technology was registered march 10th..and the website for the hired PR firm is about the worst website I have seen in my life. The problem with the pr today is not the buyback news, that is wonderful. But read it closely..statements such as "may be" and "from time to time" along with no share numbers or timeframe. Hundreds of millions of shares of dilution have been pouring in recently which makes me doubt Andrea's interest in "increasing shareholder value". The news that WILL MOVE THIS STOCK is the symbol change. This will causs all the naked short shares to be accounted for. I beleive that we will see at least a double or triple in price as the name changes. All of that being said, I think this is a VERY risky investment due to the VERY shady nature of this company and its PRs. Please do not listen to people who have said they have "talked to the CEO". I think we all have a very nice selling opportunity coming up after the news of the name change. However I urge those who think this stock has long term potential to look into it further. This company smells like a rat. Trade smartly and safely all, I will be looking for an exit around .02 and at that time will decide whether i want to sell half and ride free shares or take all my profits off the table. Remember this is only my opinion, do your DD and investigate the vague nature of the PRs and the websites. Once again Im not saying buy or sell, Im saying watch this one close and look to take profits out of a very risky investment. For those of you who decide to stay in for the long haul, I hope the company is completely legit and makes you all fortunes. God Bless.[This message has been edited by roger7485 (edited March 12, 2004).]
Biometrika is a private Italian company which produces a fingerprint tech. product called Fxlock
PAVP just purchased a company called Digitalus, a different private company
PAVP has also purchased a public shell company into which they will merge Digitalus, thus taking Digitalus public, and will give us (PAVP shareholders) free shares in this new public company
Digitalus is now saying they have a product called FX Lock (same product pictured on Biometrika website as pictured on Digitalus website)....the speculation is that Digitalus (PAVP spin-off company)has either acquired that product from Biometrika, or has purchased the whole company Biometrika
the whole point is that PAVP (Digitalus) has acquired private technology, is taking it public, and giving us free shares in the new venture
Do you know if the shell company is public? I was reading about shells on some website and it sounds like if you buy into them and then they get bought out, you can make tons off of one. It's definetely some useful DD that you've brought out. Also, why will it be harder for anyone to short this stock when they change their name/ticker symbol? How does that affect whether or not people short it? I have just heard a few people mention that they won't be able to short it after the name change. Here's the link to Biometrika: http://www.biometrika.it/eng/ The picture about half way through the page is the FX Lock. The exact same picture used to be found at http://www.digitalustechnology.com , but like you said they took it off. Interesting stuff....we'll see how it all comes together this week.
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
Roger,Do you know if the shell company is public? I was reading about shells on some website and it sounds like if you buy into them and then they get bought out, you can make tons off of one. It's definetely some useful DD that you've brought out. Also, why will it be harder for anyone to short this stock when they change their name/ticker symbol? How does that affect whether or not people short it? I have just heard a few people mention that they won't be able to short it after the name change. Here's the link to Biometrika: http://www.biometrika.it/eng/ The picture about half way through the page is the FX Lock. The exact same picture used to be found at http://www.digitalustechnology.com , but like you said they took it off. Interesting stuff....we'll see how it all comes together this week.
I could be wrong and if I am someone please correct me but if they change the ticker name the MM will have to cover all their shorts within three days no matter what they have to pay for the shares at least thats my understanding, I don't think anything can stop them from shorting the new stock. Again thats just how I understand it.
. Im off to church.
Yes, it should be good this week. Almost 10 M shares where bought just before the bell friday afternoon. That's 100 000 $. Who would put that much money in an empty shell if they weren't about do something. This transaction might also be the one that were announce earlier:
(...) The Institution has committed to a $5M financing package for PAVP; consisting of $1M in cash to purchase equity in the company and a $4M revolving credit facility. (...)
Malloy
LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by flemdog:
Almost half hour of trading and still no volume. This is not typical. Anyone have any ideas as to why? I was expecting heavy volume at the start.
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What do you like about this stock? From all I've read the past week it looks like quite a tangled web of lies, etc. from management. I bought 100,000 at .0142 on 3/9 and have regretted it since it dropped 40% right after the PR.
At this point I don't know WHAT to believe. This IR person's website looks like a 6 year old built in 20 years ago. We DON'T know the true OS or float. I haven't tried yet, but supposedly Andrea's cell phone had been disconnected. There's all the talk about NO airport deal. And the kicker - taking the picture of FX Lock from Biometrika and putting it on digitalustechnology.com - and taking it off. As I posted to you Sat. on RB: Should they have even done this in the first place? And of course, the PR gave a website TUesday that they DIDN'T even own. Are these people just robbing us blindly or are they the gang that couldn't shoot straight?
It opened decently this morning and dropped right away; just like it does when there's a good PR!
I'm not bashing - just VERY concerned about whether I can even get out of this thing whole or not - never mind the expected profit I had had in mind..... Worse thing is - my son bought 150,000 + shares because I bought in. Please enlighten me if you know anything CONCRETE about what's going on.
Thanks much,
Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Roger:What do you like about this stock? From all I've read the past week it looks like quite a tangled web of lies, etc. from management. I bought 100,000 at .0142 on 3/9 and have regretted it since it dropped 40% right after the PR.
At this point I don't know WHAT to believe. This IR person's website looks like a 6 year old built in 20 years ago. We DON'T know the true OS or float. I haven't tried yet, but supposedly Andrea's cell phone had been disconnected. There's all the talk about NO airport deal. And the kicker - taking the picture of FX Lock from Biometrika and putting it on digitalustechnology.com - and taking it off. As I posted to you Sat. on RB: Should they have even done this in the first place? And of course, the PR gave a website TUesday that they DIDN'T even own. Are these people just robbing us blindly or are they the gang that couldn't shoot straight?
It opened decently this morning and dropped right away; just like it does when there's a good PR!
I'm not bashing - just VERY concerned about whether I can even get out of this thing whole or not - never mind the expected profit I had had in mind..... Worse thing is - my son bought 150,000 + shares because I bought in. Please enlighten me if you know anything CONCRETE about what's going on.
Thanks much,
Steve[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 15, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by opiate94:
Love, just to let ya know I got out for good today at a huge loss(to me anyway). I just don't have the knowledge or funds to try and be a swing trader! Matter of fact I just plain suck at it, as my portfolio will attest! LOL GLTY and your son, I am sure the stock will skyrocket tomorrow, only b/c I sold! hahaha
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Your welcome. And thank you for your kind and supporting words. One nice
e-mail can make up for 50 bad ones.
Market is now closed and I am out of here.
Respectfully,
Kathleen
-----Original Message-----
From: jtalbert@indiana.edu [mailto:jtalbert@indiana.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:31 PM
To: Kathleen Garza
Subject: RE: Press Release
Thank you very much. Your swift and honest response has greatly increased
my confidence in both PAVP and KRGG. I'm sure you are very busy with lots
of upset people emailing you, so keep up the great work!!
Quoting Kathleen Garza <krgg@sbcglobal.net>:
> I agree and this message will be relayed to the Company.
> Sincerely,
> Kathleen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jtalbert@indiana.edu [mailto:jtalbert@indiana.edu]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 1:50 PM
> To: krgg@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Press Release
>
> Hello, I am currently a shareholder in PAVP. I just wanted to email
> you and
>
> make a suggestion about the PR later this week. I would ask that Mr.
> Cortellazzi try and issue the PR at a different time of day than he
> usually does. Most people are expecting this PR on Friday, and if
> possible, it would be optimal to release this PR on Thursday morning.
> I am just informing Mr.
> Cortellazzi that by announcing the times that his PRs will be
> released, he eliminates the surprise factor and allows many swing
> traders to manipulate the
> price of the stock. Thank you.
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So there you have it. I think this is a solid investment going forward. For those of you like me with very sizeable invesments(1.29 million here) it might be tough to stomach the MM BS until PR. But I have a feeling this upcoming PR will be very solid indeed. And also dont forget about the April 1st shorting rule, AND the April 9th spin-off. Tons of good down the road, although as I stated this is a risky investment and I wouldnt put all your eggs into this basket like I did!!! Thanks for reading this novel And God bless.
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Roger:What do you like about this stock? From all I've read the past week it looks like quite a tangled web of lies, etc. from management. I bought 100,000 at .0142 on 3/9 and have regretted it since it dropped 40% right after the PR.
At this point I don't know WHAT to believe. This IR person's website looks like a 6 year old built in 20 years ago. We DON'T know the true OS or float. I haven't tried yet, but supposedly Andrea's cell phone had been disconnected. There's all the talk about NO airport deal. And the kicker - taking the picture of FX Lock from Biometrika and putting it on digitalustechnology.com - and taking it off. As I posted to you Sat. on RB: Should they have even done this in the first place? And of course, the PR gave a website TUesday that they DIDN'T even own. Are these people just robbing us blindly or are they the gang that couldn't shoot straight?
It opened decently this morning and dropped right away; just like it does when there's a good PR!
I'm not bashing - just VERY concerned about whether I can even get out of this thing whole or not - never mind the expected profit I had had in mind..... Worse thing is - my son bought 150,000 + shares because I bought in. Please enlighten me if you know anything CONCRETE about what's going on.
Thanks much,
Steve[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 15, 2004).]
Actually, I am quietly hoping that I win in Vegas, and that PAVP dips to a level where I can get back in by Monday. But I know it won't b/c I'm not in! LMAO
Thanks for the support guys. GLTY
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Oh man! Opiate!
I guess perhaps you don't like to swing trade but... then why not keep this one 'till April 9th (medium term investment)??
Not sure why, but I feel bad you sold for a loss. I know this will reach at least .02 by April 9th.
Anyway... I guess maybe you needed the money for somefin' else?
Well, good luck to 'ya. Hope you make it all back and MORE!!
salemm.
10 M shares X (more or less 0.01) = $100 000
10 days like that and that's it...you got your millions$
Malloy
NB And if we crosscheck the info, VFIN is jamming the price the same way they do it with QBID now...they might have a mandat to keep the price down for the buy back program of those companies. Heum???
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Opiate, I also bought high after selling my ridiculously low priced shares at a profit. I got in at either .004 or .0009 originally. My most expensive shares were bought at .016. When selling a loser sometimes it is smart to keep back a small amount in case it recovers and goes crazy. So if you have 20,000 to sell maybe keep back 5000. I have been keeping back small amounts of everything I sell in case they all go wild the first week of April. Should be interesting. Best to you and hope your account recovers. -Debi
I just wanted to thank you for your great DD with the company. Sorry for being nosy, but I noticed you go to IU. I'm from Bloomington also and there are two others from here: Diana (RealityInc21) and one other guy I talked to a couple months ago. I just find it to be crazy there are so many people on here from Bloomington.
I am very strong into PAVP and can't wait for the symbol change coming up soon (hopefully by the end of the week). I know in previous PRs I also read they were wanting to switch from the Pinks to OTCBB. Anyone have any info on this? Is it going to happen when they switch the symbol this time, or just some other time in the future?
I'm planning on buying up more today, hopefully under .009. Have a great day everyone!
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Another 10 Millions after the bell...same as friday. I think the buy program from the European bank is on the way and that's why they keep the price down. They said they would buy for 1M$. At this rate, they will have finished by next week.10 M shares X (more or less 0.01) = $100 000
10 days like that and that's it...you got your millions$
Malloy
NB And if we crosscheck the info, VFIN is jamming the price the same way they do it with QBID now...they might have a mandat to keep the price down for the buy back program of those companies. Heum???
interesting outlook
Good Luck,
Steve
ProActive Computer Nears OTC Bulletin Board Status
Business Wire - March 16, 2004 12:27
HOUSTON, Mar 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) is nearing OTC Bulletin Board status. PAVP is aggressively taking the necessary steps to come off the pink sheets and list on the OTC Bulletin Board. The company's legal and accounting departments are in the process of completing the filings and fully audited statements, which should be finalized in the near term. PAVP firmly believes that listing on the OTC Bulletin Board will increase shareholder value and raise the exposure and credibility of the company.
This is a strong hold/accumulate at these levels.
HERE WE GO, THIS IS BONUS NEWS!!
Good Luck to us all.......
Steve
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I'm glad to see you learning how to trade at 18. My son's a sophomore and trading too. But over $10,000 in ONE stock? And a Pink at that? Either you're very rich or a big gambler or very ill-advised. There are very few stocks on the NYSE or NASDAQ that I'd put $10,000 into. And only a few OTC's that I'd put MAYBE $2,000 into each at a time.
I sincerely hope that you were just "Laying it on a little thick" over there on RB to shut some of those idiots up. But seriously - I don't like to see anyone lose money. My son and I are in this thing at .0145 and .0142; and I see we made abad decision. I'm just hoping that when the name/symbol change come out-we can escape even and/or maybe make a profit. But from all I've read the past week, I believe this is a very dangerous stock - and more risky than most. Geez - if you really are gambling THAT much here - I wish you had bought at .008's and were swing trading it for "Quick" in-and-out profits.
I wish you all the best. It's normally not my business to get involved with what others are doing with their money - but since you said you're 18 - I see you're just starting out in life and don't want to see you blow all your money. IF that happens - it may sour you on the market in the future - and THAT would be a shame.
Good Luck to all of us,
Steve
You're one of the SMART ones that sold out of UVCL 3 weeks ago in high .03's during the 24 hour P&D! Be careful - Don't blow your profits here. Knowing what I know now, I would NEVER have paid .0142 per share. You MAY want to 'gamble' some in the low .008's - and get out with +50% in the .012's - and try it again. You said it -DON'T chase it. There's so much BS floating around about this stock - you can't believe ANYONE. Do you OWN DD.
Good Luck,
Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by realperson:
I have doing a bit of DD and what do you all think of getting in at these levels??
Dave[/B]
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Roger - I read your post on RB that you had to raise your bid to over .001 (I'm sure you meant .01) to get ANOTHER million shares of this Pink sheet stock. That would mean you have over $10,000.00 in this stock?I'm glad to see you learning how to trade at 18. My son's a sophomore and trading too. But over $10,000 in ONE stock? And a Pink at that? Either you're very rich or a big gambler or very ill-advised. There are very few stocks on the NYSE or NASDAQ that I'd put $10,000 into. And only a few OTC's that I'd put MAYBE $2,000 into each at a time.
I sincerely hope that you were just "Laying it on a little thick" over there on RB to shut some of those idiots up. But seriously - I don't like to see anyone lose money. My son and I are in this thing at .0145 and .0142; and I see we made abad decision. I'm just hoping that when the name/symbol change come out-we can escape even and/or maybe make a profit. But from all I've read the past week, I believe this is a very dangerous stock - and more risky than most. Geez - if you really are gambling THAT much here - I wish you had bought at .008's and were swing trading it for "Quick" in-and-out profits.
I wish you all the best. It's normally not my business to get involved with what others are doing with their money - but since you said you're 18 - I see you're just starting out in life and don't want to see you blow all your money. IF that happens - it may sour you on the market in the future - and THAT would be a shame.
Good Luck to all of us,
Steve
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God love ya - and I DO hope you make a killing by Friday, so us 'small fry' do OK too!
They way these SOB MMs are playing - I don't think we're going anywhere til they 'let' us. I hope the name/symbol PR just blows them away.
Again, good luck to you and all of us...
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Good morning,Yes, it should be good this week. Almost 10 M shares where bought just before the bell friday afternoon. That's 100 000 $. Who would put that much money in an empty shell if they weren't about do something. This transaction might also be the one that were announce earlier:
(...) The Institution has committed to a $5M financing package for PAVP; consisting of $1M in cash to purchase equity in the company and a $4M revolving credit facility. (...)
Malloy
Good Luck to us on PAVP too!
Steve
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I believe the 3.4 million was just a 'settlement' sale. HAppens a lot. Not positive though -
ANyway - goodnight and good luck. Tomorrow's St. Padd's Day and I hope we are GREENER tnan GREEN!
Steve
. Anyway if its possible, just try to ignore the exact pps until the news comes out. The stuff the MM were doing today with the PPS was rediculous. Once again I think the PR will be long and will explain lots of different things including the float and O/S. Do not listen to people that say they have called or emailed anyone. Do it yourself, or wait for the PR. Remember that anyone posting on a board probably has some monetary interest in the stock. This surprise PR is just the teaser PR and the one later this week will surprise us all. Good night all.
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
PPS is complete BS. People have orders in that wont fill. PR should be huge.
I would do it myself but my broker charge me huge commission when the stock is below 0.01.
Have a nice day.
Malloy
[This message has been edited by Malloy (edited March 17, 2004).]
Does that help
Dave is a PAVP er now
All of these factors are VERY likely to have an upward effect on the stock.
Waiting won't hurt you. The price will NOT tank in my opinion.
I hate to see people take a loss... 'cause I know I can't afford a loss myself.
Keep strong.
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by Keith:
I am tired of watching this stock go down each day. I got in at .013 and I am already down $460. Would you hold on to this stock or just take the loss?
quote:
Originally posted by Keith:
I am tired of watching this stock go down each day. I got in at .013 and I am already down $460. Would you hold on to this stock or just take the loss?
If you're already down 460 at least hold til it goes below this very strong support @.008-.009, which I'm betting it won't. Make your own choice but I believe this is the bottom. Nowhere to go but up.
Thanks,
Keith
quote:
Originally posted by Keith:
Thanks for all the info. I just hate being new at anything. It is never good. I cant wait to learn how to trade penny stocks well.Thanks,
Keith
It'simple...Buy low-Sell high... LOL!
Although that's true it's not that simple!
Watch the posts here from all the great people and then go to the sources/charts that they went to and see if you can begin to see what they are seeing. I'm new too but, with this method I've been learning.
quote:
Originally posted by marks:
let me ask you guys/girls something, what does the bid and ask size tell you about the stock and why is that important info? just on any stock not neccesarilly PAVP.
I have'nt invested in L2 quotes yet but I know the bid is the buyer and the ask is the seller and the way the bid and ask is lined up gives you a good indication of the next few ticks the stock will make allowing formore accurate interpretations of timely highs and lows. Maybe someone who actually has L2 can explain it better.
Good night all and God bless.
Good Luck and Good Night,
Steve
Hi gang -
I wrote to George yesterday and asked him a bunch of questions - and was amazed at how fast he wrote back! (I had read lots of 'posts' here about emails - but felt much better when I actually got 1 myself)!
All in all - I feel much better about owning PAVP - at least for the short-term. I do not think this is a scam at all. I think they sure could have dotted there I's and crossed their T's a little better - and hope they are much more proficient at making deals than trying to be grammatically correct in wording PRs! Accuracy helps too! I think they jumped the gun on the Website PR on the 9th, and using Biometrika's picture on the Digitalus site prematurely. George said those were "Miscommunications" and that Andrea is personally taking care of those matters.
One of the big questions I asked him was "What are the Amount of Authorized Shares, Outstanding shares, and the float? Any restricted?"
His Answer:
"Authorized - 1 billion; O/S - 800M with about 500M restricted shares. There will be NO reverse split. The float is around 300-350M shares, by my estimation."
Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
Everything else I asked him was basically the same as what others have already posted here: ie; name/symbol change out soon, etc.
Good Luck to us all,
Steve
Sorry guys, whats up with this one, why is it still under .01, where is the new ticker? any substains to the PR's?
Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
CMON I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE IN HERE EXCITED GUYS TOMORROW IS OUR BIG PR!!!!! ITS THE DAY WEVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!
Are we sure the pr comes out today, if my memory serves the last pr said next week which should meen today but can we confirm this?
quote:
Originally posted by poorman:
Are we sure the pr comes out today, if my memory serves the last pr said next week which should meen today but can we confirm this?
Do you get a lot of spam also when you leave your email to those web site?
If not, which one are you using to get the PR?
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
I've gotten over a dozen PRs already this morning - but none on PAVP yet.....It's 8:11
NO- no spam at all - you have to sign up for each stock you want News/PRs on, but it's FREE!
I hope this stock takes care of us SOON!
Here's a sample.....
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[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 19, 2004).]
MAybe if you just go here - you can sign up: www.smallcapcenter.com
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Malloy
THANKS - when I copied/pasted here I MEANT to take my email off - but forgot too.
I use a yahoo email for here and other boards where I don't care if I get spammed. Even on AOL though - I get a ton of spam. Being in Sales/Mktg. it doesn't bother me the way it bothers some. To me - it's no different than going to my mailbox and carry in more "junk mail" than regular mail. The only thing I HATE though is Office Max AND Office Depot seem to send me a huge catalog almost every month. Now THEY are a pain in the neck. I've never ordered out of their catalogs - I order online - but they got me through my corporations listings.
Have a nice day and thanks again for the 'heads up'
You do a great job with this board...
Steve
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Do you have the link to the daily symbol/name changes. I had it under favorites - but it disappearded!
Thanks,
Steve
Looks like they still can't get it together - so far today anyway. Gonna go do some errands - Hope I come back to a NICE BIG Surprise!
What kills me the most about these damn MMs not raising ask is: MOST of us who would pay .0087 per share would pay.009 - They don't even 'Test the Waters' - They've got 4 @ .0087 now on Ask
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Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
We NEED the RIGHT PRs released soon or we'll be at .006 by end of next week.
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 19, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Yeah babeeeeee!
Today's looking good so far!
8 MMs at .20 or over.
People want this one.
salemm.GNET 0.225 10000 - 0 U O
SCHB 0.22 5000 0.245 5000 O
HILL 0.22 5000 0.25 5000 O
NITE 0.22 5000 0.25 5000 O
MAYF 0.2 5000 0.51 2500 O
WIEN 0.2 5000 0.31 5000 O
JEFF 0.2 5000 0.24 5000 O
CRWN 0.2 5000 0.45 5000 O
LOL
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
LOL
MM are pushing very strong to have shares as low as possible I think...then...when PR hits...you know the pattern. If it goes like all the other times, it will go up very fast. Be quick.
By the way. The PR it to confirm an give details of the aquisition of the Fingerprinting. Check below.
Thursday , February 26, 2004 12:26 ET
HOUSTON, Feb 26, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets:PAVP) has finalized the acquisition of a privately held fingerprint technology identification business. Further details will be released after the deal receives clearance from both parties' legal departments. This process should be completed in a matter of days.
Just got more...I hope it goes up AND STAYS there this time.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
That was for ADPR Hippo... but DAMN! You're fast. I was editing that a half second after I posted!! You must have a well-used 'refresh' button, eh?
salemm.
Yes, Me and F5 are well acquainted! I KNEW that the L2 was for ADPR, Ive been roaming around a bit! i even went into the thread and saw the same post, but figured Id bust your chops a bit!
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Malloy... i thought of adding also, but do you think it will dip below 8?
B
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Now now, tanking is a little strong, save that for .0079. PRs have historically come out about an hour from now. Our time has almost come.
I sure hope it's just the calm before the GOOD storm - and not the Titanic
2 million at .0085? With Bid/Ask BELOW .0082 Manipulation City. Part of Andrea's private stash?
"Read my lips - We are NOT diluting"!!!!!
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Something may give SOON! Hope THIS is the PR that float's our boat!! LOL
Good luck to us all,
Steve
Started playing pennies in Aug. of 2002 - but got really busy in a new business in Oct. 2002 and didn't bother with them again til this past Sept, 2003 - so I was out for about a year. Studied the hell out of them and tracked 100's from MAy 2002 on.
Have made some good money with them - and lost too! THIS is the first stock I jumped into too soon without enough DD. MY fault.
Good luck to us all!
I was able to pull this off RB - Roger or anyone, do you know this guy?
By: tontoloveragingbull
19 Mar 2004, 12:11 PM EST
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I just spoke with "Andrea" and he said he just signed the PR release, and that it would be comming out today...but...that was the first thing he said. I didn't even ask him about a PR? First off, disclosure..I own about 460,000 shares at @.0083....I called to get financial info which he didn't give me. He just said this PR would clear up their direction. I am currently doing a research paper on Market Manipulation for my Legal Environment on the Internet class...if this company isn't a real company, if they are not even close to being listed on the OTCBB, if the OS are more then the 34M that the company is stating, if this PR doesn't come out or the EU financing isn't real....would this company or CEO be gulty of market manipulation... ?
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U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
Securities Act of 1933
Release No. 8308 / October 23, 2003
Administrative Proceeding
File No. 3-11310
Cease-and-Desist Proceedings Instituted Against Lorsin, Inc., Loretta M. Lockhart, Craig K. Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Inc., George R. Siembida, Harold Engel, Jr., MicroCap Marketing, Inc., and Shane M. Nelson
On October 23, 2003, the Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission") instituted cease-and-desist proceedings against alleged Internet stock promoters Lorsin, Inc. ("Lorsin"), Loretta M. Lockhart ("Lockhart"), Craig K. Hjalmarson ("Hjalmarson"), Russell Management, Inc. ("Russell Management"), George R. Siembida ("Siembida"), Harold Engel, Jr. ("Engel"), MicroCap Marketing, Inc. ("MicroCap Marketing"), and Shane M. Nelson ("Nelson").
The Division of Enforcement ("Division") alleges that Energy & Engine Technology Corporation ("Energy & Engine"), a public company in Plano, Texas that maintains a natural gas gathering system, hired former stock promoter Siembida, of Depew, New York, and his company, Russell Management, to promote Energy & Engine on the Internet. Energy & Engine paid Siembida in stock that was improperly registered pursuant to a Form S-8 Registration Statement. (Form S-8 registration is not available for stock issued as compensation for stock promotion services.) Siembida subcontracted with Engel, who operates a small cap stock promotion website, WillyWizard.com, to promote Energy & Engine. To compensate Engel, Siembida transferred some of the shares he received from Energy & Engine to Engel.
The Division alleges that Engel, in turn, subcontracted with two other promoters, Hjalmarson and Nelson, to profile Energy & Engine on the Internet. Hjalmarson, of Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina, operates a website, GreedOrFear.com, through a corporation named Lorsin, which is headed by Lockhart, also of Kill Devil Hills. Nelson, of Bethany, Illinois, heads MicroCap Marketing, which promotes small cap companies on the Internet. Engel paid Hjalmarson and Nelson with a portion of the Energy & Engine shares he received from Siembida.
The Division further alleges that Engel and Nelson touted Energy & Engine on their websites, and that Hjalmarson distributed Energy & Engine press releases over the Internet. The promotion coincided with a 68 percent rise in the price of Energy & Engine's stock, from $0.29 to $0.49 per share, and average daily trading volume that was over 600% higher that the stock's historical daily volume. Siembida, Engel, Hjalmarson, and Nelson sold the stock that they had received for a combined total of over $14,000.
According to the Division's allegations, Siembida obtained the Energy & Engine shares in an unregistered offering with a view to distributing the stock to the public, making him an underwriter in a distribution of Energy & Engine stock. By participating in this distribution, Energy & Engine, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, Lorsin, Hjalmarson, Lockhart, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson violated Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act.
The Division also alleges that Nelson and MicroCap Marketing participated in a second illegal stock distribution with another small cap issuer, ProActive Computer Services, Inc. ("ProActive"). ProActive, a Houston-based computer services provider, hired Nelson and MicroCap Marketing to promote ProActive in exchange for a combination of restricted and purportedly unrestricted ProActive shares. ProActive arranged for a third-party shareholder to transfer 300,000 ProActive shares to Nelson's brokerage account. Nelson posted ProActive profiles on his websites and touted ProActive in his electronic newsletter. Nelson sold the ProActive shares he received from the third-party shortly after receiving them for $1,340.50.
The Division alleges that Nelson obtained the ProActive shares with a view to distributing them to the public from a person directly or indirectly controlling or controlled by ProActive, or under direct or indirect common control with ProActive. Therefore, the stock was restricted and could not be sold to the public for one year.
The Division further alleges that another issuer, whose stock was traded on the OTC Bulletin Board, hired Lorsin to promote it on the Internet. To pay for the promotion, the issuer directed two shareholders to transfer a total of 30,000 of its shares to Lorsin. Following the launch of Lorsin's promotional campaign, Lorsin sold a portion of the stock it had received from the issuer for $1,249.
According to the Division's allegations, Lorsin obtained the issuer's shares with a view to distributing them to the public from a person directly or indirectly controlling or controlled by the issuer, or under direct or indirect common control with the issuer. Therefore, the stock was restricted and could not be sold to the public for one year.
The Division alleges that Lorsin, Lockhart, Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson violated Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act. A hearing will be scheduled before an administrative law judge to determine whether the allegations in the Order are true and, if so, whether Lorsin, Lockhart, Hjalmarson, Russell Management, Siembida, Engel, MicroCap Marketing, and Nelson should be ordered to cease and desist from committing or causing violations of and any future violations of Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act, and whether they should be ordered to disgorge the proceeds of their conduct.
The Commission directed that the administrative law judge shall issue an initial decision in this matter within 300 days from the date of service of the Order Instituting Proceedings.
NAme change?????? SOmething's up. Let's hope it's ALL good!
Steve
This is to all of my friends on this board. You know me. And you know that I am not a basher. And even though I am not holding PAVP stock at this time, I feel compelled to post this final message to you all. No matter what the consequences, I must warn my friends on this board about PAVP. Some of you followed me here from CTKH, and for that I am truly sorry.
IMO, I repeat, this is strictly my opinion, this stock is not what it appears. IMO, nothing about this position holds up under scrutiny. Now there is evidence that Cortellazzi was involved in a fraud investigation regarding a school in Canada. When you combine all of the vaugeness of his PRs, with their frequency, plus the coincidence of CortDev airports name, the ever increasing float and o/s, the here today gone tomorrow picture of the new product on the web site that just happened to be the product of another company, and then PAVP's apparent lie that they were negotiating with the manufacturer to market it, when the manufacturer says that is not true, and the incredible frustration expressed openly by their own PR rep, and much much more, IMO, this is not a safe place to have your money.
Upon consideratoin of these things I got out with an extreme loss and am glad I did.
I encourage you all to do some serious DD on this position, and take whatever steps you feel comfortable with. As I have said, I am out. And, at this time, absolutely nothing can make me comfortable with this company.
Watch your money.
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On Alphatrade - what do all the colors represent, other than different prices? Earlier, the .0095 on Ask was RED, now .0105 is the RED one, with date of MArch 17 next to it and SEAB as the MM. Seems VERY confusing.
Thanks to whoever knows,
Steve
Reading the post, seems there's a lot of bashing and not a lot of real DD.
Looking to find info on allegation of fraud with a school = nothing.
PR is confirmed today...but if they learned their lesson, they won't have it out before the end of the day. For us, we hope before the bell but this might not be the best thing to put this stocks on the road to success.
Anyway, I'm always very carefull when I read something about fraud or else without proof.
Time will tell. The only thing I Know for sure is that the ST-Hubert Airport project is a very good one. Will they be able to manage it with success...I don't know. But that's why the stocks is so low right now, It's still gambling time. If we had hard numbers and profit coming in, this would be much more higher.
Good luck all.
Malloy
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Estimated Market Cap: 302,760 as of 2004-03-18
There is also the time (or date if not today) they put their order.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Could someone help with Alphatrade question please???On Alphatrade - what do all the colors represent, other than different prices? Earlier, the .0095 on Ask was RED, now .0105 is the RED one, with date of MArch 17 next to it and SEAB as the MM. Seems VERY confusing.
Thanks to whoever knows,
Steve
ProActive Computer Reaches Agreement for Acquisition of Public Shell; Signs Letter of Intent to Secure Financing for Shell
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HOUSTON, Mar 19, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) today announced that it has reached an agreement to acquire a controlling interest in a public shell for cash. The anticipated completion date when all shares will be delivered to PAVP is March 23, at which time the name and ticker symbol will be released. This is a debt-free public shell that is in good standing with no past or present legal problems with the SEC. In addition, all transfer and minute book records are up-to-date. Due to these qualities, this shell is a prime candidate to attain OTC Bulletin Board status in the near term. Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi will be appointed the new chairman and CEO of the company. Andrea's goal is to transform the shell into a viable holding company that will invest in leading-edge and innovative technologies. The shell's mandate will be to acquire and invest in private technology companies that possess valuable intellectual property and patents. These companies should also possess a competitive advantage in their field, a comprehensive strategic plan and a strong management team.
CEO Andrea Cortellazzi has signed a letter of intent with a major Israel-based investment group for a $500,000 equity investment in the shell, with the option of increasing it to $2M. This group has a staff of respected leaders in high-tech financing and capital markets law. The investment will be in the form of restricted shares of the shell for a term of not less than one year. These funds will be used by the shell to make its first major investment. Andrea and his advisors are currently evaluating firms that own intellectual property that is valued at over $15M and have been very successful in attracting major investors to finance their projects. Full disclosure of this investment will be done upon completion of due diligence.
As per the March 9 press release, there will be a spin-off of this shell with PAVP shareholders of record benefiting from it. Shares of the shell will be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004. PAVP shareholders will receive 1 share of the shell's common stock for every 100 shares of PAVP common stock owned.
PAVP anticipates that its name and ticker symbol will be officially changed to CortDev Inc. on March 23. At that time, PAVP will also provide an update on the recent developments with respect to the re-development of the St. Hubert airport.
It has come to our attention that certain parties are posting negative, harmful and inaccurate information on financial websites and message boards. Anyone posting false information regarding PAVP will be subject to legal action on a swift basis. PAVP's legal department has been notified of such postings and will take legal action if necessary to protect the company from these slanderous and baseless allegations.
PAVP corrects the statements made in our March 12 press release regarding Digitalus Technology Inc. (DTI). PAVP was misinformed by DTI's principals regarding the Fx Lock product. It is in fact not developed by DTI but by Biometrika. DTI is in the process of developing its own proprietary technology and products, which will be made public once the blueprints are completed. PAVP regrets having made the error of not thoroughly reviewing all the documents provided by DTI regarding the Fx Lock and assures all shareholders that this will not happen again.
For more information, please call Andrea Cortellazzi at 514-830-3348 after 8PM EST on March 22 as he is presently engaged in business meetings in Houston, TX. Alternatively, you may e-mail the company at cortdev@sympatico.ca for an immediate response.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE: ProActive Computer Services Inc.
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi, 514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
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Malloy
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CEO Andrea Cortellazzi has signed a letter of intent with a major Israel-based investment group for a $500,000 equity investment in the shell, with the option of increasing it to $2M
Good. REal money
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As per the March 9 press release, there will be a spin-off of this shell with PAVP shareholders of record benefiting from it. Shares of the shell will be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004. PAVP shareholders will receive 1 share of the shell's common stock for every 100 shares of PAVP common stock owned.
Good. Free shares.
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PAVP anticipates that its name and ticker symbol will be officially changed to CortDev Inc. on March 23. At that time, PAVP will also provide an update on the recent developments with respect to the re-development of the St. Hubert airport
Good project. That's why I'm in. Can't wait for more info. Else, all shorts selling will have to be accounted for. MM can't do anything about this.
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PAVP corrects the statements made in our March 12 press release regarding Digitalus Technology Inc. (DTI). PAVP was misinformed by DTI's principals regarding the Fx Lock product. It is in fact not developed by DTI but by Biometrika. DTI is in the process of developing its own proprietary technology and products, which will be made public once the blueprints are completed. PAVP regrets having made the error of not thoroughly reviewing all the documents provided by DTI regarding the Fx Lock and assures all shareholders that this will not happen again.
Bad. That's a mistake they can't do. It will hurt the company for not being professional. It might stop the stocks from going up today.
Now they have to be better prepared with the CortDev project...we don't want this to happen again.
Oh well!
Malloy
The word "Anticipate" scares me in next paragraph. (Shoot -I had anticipated making money with this stock).
ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) today announced that it has reached an agreement to acquire a controlling interest in a public shell for cash. The anticipated completion date when all shares will be delivered to PAVP is March 23, at which time the name and ticker symbol will be released. This is a debt-free public shell that is in good standing with no past or present legal problems with the SEC.
As usual - we're DOWN after PR. I thought it was pretty decent - especially that they ADMITTED they screwed up DTI. They NEVER should have jumped the gun there though, in the first place.
The Donald would have said "YOU'RE FIRED" !!!!!! LOL
The way L2 looks right now, by close we could either be down to .0078 or up to a penny. B/A thin at .0081 x .0083
Not a lot of voloume since the release either. MAybe most waiting for Tuesday.
Good Luck to us all next week......
Steve
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Here are the numbers
bid
4x.0079
2x.0078
1x.0077
2x.0075
ask
1x.008
2x.0081
4x.009
2x.01
Nice jump from 8 to 9... but right now, I'm not to excited. Bears have control.
Malloy
Malloy
This Blows...I'm getting tired of this game, the MMs are worthless piles of poop that are unfair and like to hump goats. I hate you MMs and your stupid manipulation games.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I thought the PR was great. If I had free cash I would buy more. Tuesday is coming soon and I believe the share price will be up. Any predictions? I say .017. That number was drawn from a hat in a totally scientific way. GLTA-Debi
Better luck to us next week..........
Better take it on the right side. Nobody died today...except the father of my friend which is why I was gone part of the day. Put in perspective, stocks behing down is not that important for me at this moment.
Oh, and by the way. For those following that Zillions shares behing bought after the bell this week...another 2M just went through.
Tomorrow will be a better day.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by TheRealSlimShady:
Man if I had 1million dallors I would put it all in PAVP at these levels .007!
quote:
Originally posted by gordy:
whens the name change?
Cya monday.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
Ok, so I thought the MM's weren't going to be able to manipulate this stock anymore because of the name change...although it doesn't occur until the 23rd....I think they just trying to get as much in as they can at lower prices so when the name changes they have a bunch of cheap shares and the price will take off. I don't know...this is a frustrating stock...I got home and was expecting to see it in green and saw that it went down over 10%....it's not the first time that's happened either. I just keep telling myself that patience will pay off. I'm actually thinking about selling part of another stock just to invest more in PAVP at these levels...my average is .011 What do you guys think? I don't want to tie too much of my portfolio in this stock...I wish I would have sold at .015 now....The PR was awesome...I don't understand why they went down.
I may be wrong as I am fairly new at this, but I think the mm are driving the price down so they can cover their own behinds by buying back at lower prices and covering the outstanding shares. They know when they manipulate a stock like they did today, all the weak players bail out....giving them the advantage. They can drive it down as low as they want, I'm holding mine....and plan to buy more.
Please suugest me , to hold or sell. I entered at 0.0145( 125758). 50% loss..
quote:
Originally posted by mondayschild:
I may be wrong as I am fairly new at this, but I think the mm are driving the price down so they can cover their own behinds by buying back at lower prices and covering the outstanding shares. They know when they manipulate a stock like they did today, all the weak players bail out....giving them the advantage. They can drive it down as low as they want, I'm holding mine....and plan to buy more.
It always heading south 90mph. Is there any hope here or are we wasting our time and effort.
Please suugest me , to hold or sell. I entered at 0.0145( 125758). 50% loss..
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quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
The simple fact is that MM will have to cover their short positions. Remember all those times when VFIN and other MMs were on the ask and it wouldnt budge on all buys? Those werent real shares they were selling. Unlimited supply + any demand = price is going down. Bashers will try to say that the company or insiders are dumping their shares...nope, its fake shares. Now they are starting to buy them back in the 70s for bargain basement prices. But soon there will be no more scared investors to prowl on. All those countless millions of BS non price moving naked short sells will drive this pps very far early next week. Even if we would have gotten news of HUGE funding or other great things today...the price still would have fallen. They are shaking loose every last share before the run. I must say that they have gotten to far more people than I would have expected. Now also note that im not telling you to fall in love with this company. Do not be greedy on the run but do not be too nice to these MMs who are trying to cover sells that have been the source of our frustration for weeks. The longer the little guy holds out, the more everyone benefits. God bless and good night.
1 000 000 buy before the bell. Some MM getting nervous maybe with the symbol change tomorrow.
Malloy
Malloy
What will happen to the share price next week, when:
1.the Cusip # changes on Tuesday, dictated resolution of all shorted shares (no one can deny that shorted shares exist, especially with the huge volume the last few weeks, with estimates from 40 to 200 million)
2. nearing if not arrived at the O/S = A/S
3. the potential release of news on Tuesday that the St. Hubert's land lease has been signed and construction will begin soon (this has been circulated as an email from George this week)
IMO, crook or not (I don't give a flying #####), Mr. Andrea has timed this perfectly. The name change causes a short squeeze, immediately followed by the best news (construction begins at the airport) in over a year of waiting
.04 or .05 EASY, and if the A/S is really reached, maybe more on daytraders and technical factors that have nothing to do with the company anyway.
Guys the stocks are so low on this one, combine oversold with a short cover with solid, REVENUE EARNING news, and we have one hell of a play for next week. But you might get stuck chasing this one if you dont get in at the opening bell Monday. I approximate the short position to be about 100 million. Thats 100 million in institutional buys ALONE in one trading day. Thats almost 30% of the estimated float. Im not exactly sure which day we ACTUALLY start trading new ticker and what the rules are for the time you have to cover a short position. But IMO we have a one day bagger fest early next week.
Also I want to note that on another board there have been 500 MESSAGES ON A WEEKEND. Most of these have been elaborate bashes about potential FBI investiagtions and other very scary stuff meant to shake EVERY LAST SHARE LOOSE. Once this baby starts to move up, its going to be fast.
The Institutions that have shorted this stock are trying furiously to cause panic and shake down its holders to cover their shorts before the change happens. Remember there are 100 MILLION SHORTED SHARES the MMs have on this one. They have hired (FACT) many bashers on RB and other boards to cause panic so they can buy even lower to cover their shorts when the name changes happen. I ADVISE DO NOT SELL ON PANIC KEEP OR BUY AS MORE AS YOU CAN BEFORE THIS FLYS. Mr.Andrea is also working on finding out who is making up these false reports to scare loyal shareholders to shake them off. Market manipulation at its finest and this stock has taken a toll on MMs and is currently under investigation on false reports directly related to Stock bashing. MMs are in deperation in its last hours right now and this is what is currently happening. Hang on tight fellow holders, you will not get shares this low after teusday. Goodluck to all, this is it people, hang on to as much as you can at this level, your money depends on it. Average out if you have lost some, and buy at lower levels, but good luck if you can get it below a penny, it may be hard to get after tomarrow. IF you sell on panic, you will loose BIG! If you hold, you will see that MMs will be loosing much Bigger as this stock will be racing to highest levels in the companies history, and the MMs will finnally be on its last leg! So Hang on and spread the word!!
Looks like we're going lower than Friday very shortly.
I can't WAIT to dump this POS. Boy - I see why eveyone says stay away from the Pinks - they're garbage. Then again - QBID has been making some people rich. This thing just seems like it's more of a Tangled Web of Lies than a legitimate compnay. I just hope this spikes enough Tues/Wed to get out with a profit.
Also - I bought in mid .014's - If you're buying now you're paying 1/2 of that - so you're in a heck of a lot better position than I am and will probably double your money + this week, imo, unless we tank further....or into oblivion.
Good Luck
ProActive Computer Nears OTC Bulletin Board Status
Tuesday March 16, 12:27 pm ET
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 16, 2004--ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) is nearing OTC Bulletin Board status. PAVP is aggressively taking the necessary steps to come off the pink sheets and list on the OTC Bulletin Board. The company's legal and accounting departments are in the process of completing the filings and fully audited statements, which should be finalized in the near term. PAVP firmly believes that listing on the OTC Bulletin Board will increase shareholder value and raise the exposure and credibility of the company.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Wise one, I would love to see this thing fly just as much as anyone else, I assure you! But, thats twice PAVP had flopped on a PR. I know the name changes "usually" has a positive impact on most stocks, but this one seems different. What makes you so sure PAVP will fly? Not much action today, but news coming out soon. Who knows? Thanks for your input.
B
I wish I should not bought this at first place. I 'm gonna follow what this board says.
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Love the Market:
I just have to say I think you are jumping the
gun on writting this one off!
Especially if you are going by it tanking.
I feel sorry for the people who sold AURFQ on Friday when it was at .003 big difference a little news can make. Take Care!
SmokingUSA
No way - I'm NOT gonna sell for a 50% loss. I'm hoping it pops this week on name/symbol change, like MANY but not all stocks do.
Most stocks don't tumble on every good PR either.
Only time will tell. Every opinion out here - both pro and con - has SOME validity, but who knows.
Good luck to us all......
SOme are trying to average down even more - others don't want to catch a falling knife. Either way - hope this bleeding stops SOON.
Steve
dz
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Learning:
[b]Wise one, I would love to see this thing fly just as much as anyone else, I assure you! But, thats twice PAVP had flopped on a PR. I know the name changes "usually" has a positive impact on most stocks, but this one seems different. What makes you so sure PAVP will fly? Not much action today, but news coming out soon. Who knows? Thanks for your input.
B
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Hippo, right on!
I'm still holding and think it would be crazy to sell at this point with so much changing for the positive right now. Now is the time to buy and trade on the big price swings that will probably happen soon.dz
WHAT IS THE NEW SYMBOL AND WHEN IS THE CHANGE?
THANKS
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Learning:
[b]Wise one, I would love to see this thing fly just as much as anyone else, I assure you! But, thats twice PAVP had flopped on a PR. I know the name changes "usually" has a positive impact on most stocks, but this one seems different. What makes you so sure PAVP will fly? Not much action today, but news coming out soon. Who knows? Thanks for your input.
B
ProActive Computer Services Featured in Barron's
Update on CortDev Inc. Project
Tuesday , February 24, 2004 13:13 ET
HOUSTON, Feb 24, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets: PAVP) was featured in the February 23rd edition of Barron's. An excerpt from its recent news release was included in the Technology Week insert under Current Corporate Reports (p.T2). Barron's is considered to be America's premier financial weekly publication with its readership including corporate decision-makers, institutional investors, individual investors and financial professionals. (Source: www.barrons.com) As a result of this write-up PAVP has raised its credibility with the investment community and is attracting widespread investor interest. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "Since the issue hit the newsstands I have personally received numerous calls from institutional and private investors who expressed an interest to make a major investment in PAVP. I expect a number of these parties to invest in restricted stock in the near future, which will significantly increase our cash position and help us to fund our operations."
The CortDev Inc. project is proceeding ahead of schedule. Surveying of the St.Hubert airport and surrounding property is complete as well as the architectural drawings. A majority of the space has been tentatively pre-leased. PAVP is presently in negotiations with three contractors with respect to construction of the hangar, which the company expects to close in a couple of weeks. In addition, to assist with project management and logistics PAVP has hired engineering and financial consultants. They are being compensated with shares in the company. As a result of these transactions the number of outstanding shares has been increased. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "The airport re-development project is quickly materializing. We can't wait to provide images of the work-in-progress to shareholders, which will be posted on our new corporate website by mid-March."
Is Barron a pumper? Don't think so.
Is the St-Hubert Airport a ghost field? Nop...and I know about it I live near by.
Was the Digital Printing PR a mistake? Yes..and it stops friday's run up.
Are the MM scared are getting short with symbol change? Pretty sure of that.
Is everyone in a panic mode? Just read many of the boards and you'll get the answer. I never read so many hate messages just for a stocks.
This is an uncomfortable situation. I would rater see the stocks to be in the mid 0.01...but to sell right now would just not be the logical thing to do...like Mr Spock would say.
Malloy
Does anyone have any idea what exactly that article said?
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Remember this PR:ProActive Computer Services Featured in Barron's
Update on CortDev Inc. Project
Tuesday , February 24, 2004 13:13 ET
HOUSTON, Feb 24, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets: PAVP) was featured in the February 23rd edition of Barron's. An excerpt from its recent news release was included in the Technology Week insert under Current Corporate Reports (p.T2). Barron's is considered to be America's premier financial weekly publication with its readership including corporate decision-makers, institutional investors, individual investors and financial professionals. (Source: www.barrons.com) As a result of this write-up PAVP has raised its credibility with the investment community and is attracting widespread investor interest. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "Since the issue hit the newsstands I have personally received numerous calls from institutional and private investors who expressed an interest to make a major investment in PAVP. I expect a number of these parties to invest in restricted stock in the near future, which will significantly increase our cash position and help us to fund our operations."The CortDev Inc. project is proceeding ahead of schedule. Surveying of the St.Hubert airport and surrounding property is complete as well as the architectural drawings. A majority of the space has been tentatively pre-leased. PAVP is presently in negotiations with three contractors with respect to construction of the hangar, which the company expects to close in a couple of weeks. In addition, to assist with project management and logistics PAVP has hired engineering and financial consultants. They are being compensated with shares in the company. As a result of these transactions the number of outstanding shares has been increased. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "The airport re-development project is quickly materializing. We can't wait to provide images of the work-in-progress to shareholders, which will be posted on our new corporate website by mid-March."
Is Barron a pumper? Don't think so.Is the St-Hubert Airport a ghost field? Nop...and I know about it I live near by.
Was the Digital Printing PR a mistake? Yes..and it stops friday's run up.
Are the MM scared are getting short with symbol change? Pretty sure of that.
Is everyone in a panic mode? Just read many of the boards and you'll get the answer. I never read so many hate messages just for a stocks.
This is an uncomfortable situation. I would rater see the stocks to be in the mid 0.01...but to sell right now would just not be the logical thing to do...like Mr Spock would say.
Malloy
Also - Roger or anyone - do ANY of you know anything about a poster named d_diggler on RB??? Claims to be talking to Andrea quite a bit. Guy gas 1200 posts in 3 weeks.
Speaking of posts - ROger, I hope you're keeping up with your School Work. I have to keep on my son too. Yes - the market can be mesmerozing an addicting - but you kids have the rest of your lives for this game. Don't let your studies suffer......
Tuesday , February 24, 2004 13:13 ET
HOUSTON, Feb 24, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets: PAVP) was featured in the February 23rd edition of Barron's. An excerpt from its recent news release was included in the Technology Week insert under Current Corporate Reports (p.T2). Barron's is considered to be America's premier financial weekly publication with its readership including corporate decision-makers, institutional investors, individual investors and financial professionals. (Source: www.barrons.com) As a result of this write-up PAVP has raised its credibility with the investment community and is attracting widespread investor interest. CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "Since the issue hit the newsstands I have personally received numerous calls from institutional and private investors who expressed an interest to make a major investment in PAVP. I expect a number of these parties to invest in restricted stock in the near future, which will significantly increase our cash position and help us to fund our operations."
Good Luck
Malloy
Originally posted by Love the Market:
[B]I've read on RB that the Barron's article was PAID Advertisement.
I don't know for sure and at this point I don't really care.
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quote:
Originally posted by poorman:
I know I'm new to these things but if the MM'S are keeping this stock down shouldn't we be seeing a run this afternoon as if my memory serves the ticker is supposed to change tomorrow. if they are picking up cheap shares to cover shorts they should have to start buying at any price and volume is not that high today. I'm holding quite a bit ( at least for me ) and got in pretty high so I would love to see a run, not planing to sell but would like to see it in the green anyway. Any thoughts.
There could be a late day run, when they feel prices are at their lowest. Also, I believe that MMs have 3 days to cover their shorts, so who knows how this will pan out!
Malloy
Tomorrow will be interesting.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
4M traded after the bell. Same pattern we had last week.Tomorrow will be interesting.
Malloy
Interesting is a good word to use here!
But once the PR comes out they will have to chase the public buying pressure and it will get REALLY fun REALLY quick. God Bless. This will pay for my college hopefully (p.s. lovethemarket, yes i must admit i have skipped some classes to watch the stocks, but Im quite content keeping my 3.5 GPA, I only skip the useless classes
He's got great grades too - but I WILL keep stressing to you young guys - ENJOY your lives NOW - you've got another 40+ years to work, play the market, etc. You're only young once.....
Good night,
Steve
So far - no news yet. Hope today's the start of something good for us all....
Original Email:
Hello! I am currently a shareholder with PAVP and believe that the company is legit and doing great with letting investors know what is going on. I have been a little flustered though because every PR that you put out the past few weeks has been very positive, but the price seems to always go down based on the PRs. When the PR comes out I see large orders fill and millions of shares of volume, but still the price goes down. I was just wondering if you had any answer as to why this has been the case and why it doesn't go up when there is good news. Thanks for your time and also for any insight you might provide me.
-J
RESPONSE:
What usually happens is the buy on rumour and sell on news phenomenon.
Several investors still express a lack of confidence in PAVP or do not trust
the company's PRs. I can assure you that PAVP is a legitimate company with
a real project of re-developing the St.Hubert airport. Tomorrow's PR will
outline the progress it has made on this project and will no doubt dispel
any negative gossip or rumours about the company. The price per share will
take care of itself once everyone realizes the long-term potential of PAVP.
Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
I know this is pretty much nothing new, I just figured I would share since it is nice for everyone to see any correspondence with the company. Good luck to everyone and go PAVP!
The TRUTH and honesty of management is anybody's guess, but I will say - this 'George' has emailed me back TWICE the same day before.
I'm in sooo high - I HAVE to give them the benefit of the doubt and 'believe' that this puppy's going back up.
I just hope the Airport PR he's promising today does more 'Good than Harm' - unlike the last 4 -5 PRs.
Good luck to us all,
Steve
[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 23, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Special J:
Last Friday after the PR and the drop down below .0075, I just figured I would email the company and see hwat they had to say a bout how it drops with PRs. I got a response back this morning and I thoguht I would share it with you all quick.Original Email:
Hello! I am currently a shareholder with PAVP and believe that the company is legit and doing great with letting investors know what is going on. I have been a little flustered though because every PR that you put out the past few weeks has been very positive, but the price seems to always go down based on the PRs. When the PR comes out I see large orders fill and millions of shares of volume, but still the price goes down. I was just wondering if you had any answer as to why this has been the case and why it doesn't go up when there is good news. Thanks for your time and also for any insight you might provide me.
-J
RESPONSE:What usually happens is the buy on rumour and sell on news phenomenon.
Several investors still express a lack of confidence in PAVP or do not trust
the company's PRs. I can assure you that PAVP is a legitimate company with
a real project of re-developing the St.Hubert airport. Tomorrow's PR will
outline the progress it has made on this project and will no doubt dispel
any negative gossip or rumours about the company. The price per share will
take care of itself once everyone realizes the long-term potential of PAVP.Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
I know this is pretty much nothing new, I just figured I would share since it is nice for everyone to see any correspondence with the company. Good luck to everyone and go PAVP!
I HATE manipulation.....
Do you have L2 for pinks? I use Alphatrades and bid has not been below .007 all morning. I'm wondering how you got .0068 - I've seen a LOT of .0068's go through in the past 40 minutes or so....
Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
salemm -Do you have L2 for pinks? I use Alphatrades and bid has not been below .007 all morning. I'm wondering how you got .0068 - I've seen a LOT of .0068's go through in the past 40 minutes or so....
Thanks
Was there news today?
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Ok ladies and Gents. Ive added to my position once already and it tanked. I have the money to add to it again, but not sure what I want to do? Its sitting around 68 right now. Any recommendations? I am wondering if its going to tank again today after the news?
B
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Ok ladies and Gents. Ive added to my position once already and it tanked. I have the money to add to it again, but not sure what I want to do? Its sitting around 68 right now. Any recommendations? I am wondering if its going to tank again today after the news?
B
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Thats funny shady. But the voices inside your head do not help me any!!! HAHA, theres not much room left for this one to tank after another good PR. Buy, or not to buy, that is the question!
B
what is POA ( plan of action now).
I'm tiiiiiiiiissssssssss close to pulling the trigger to buy another 100,000 to average down - and then get out very soon after it pops - runs - or whatever the hell it decides to do. ONLY to have my 'escape' exit lower.
Everyone keeps saying it can't go any lower. They were saying it at .009, 008 and yesterday-this morning at 007.
Now we're at .006
We THINK and WANT it to fly after the Airport and name/symbpl change PRs - but with THIS damn stock - who knows. This is one I have already chalked up as a HUGE mistake. (Biggest mistake wasn't even paying too much. It was not duing my usually thorough DD on it first. Honestly - I don't know who's a bigger clown (or con man - we will see) George or Andrea. They certainly don't seem like very astute businessmen.
How they could put out a PR with a website in it that they didn't even own is beyond me, and later call it a mistake.
How they could take another company's product, Fx Lock; and put it on the website of a co. we don't even KNOW if they even own or not - and LATER say it was 'miscommunication' borders on outright fraud.
They hire a PR lady and fire her a week later (or she got disgusted and quit)
It's incredible.......
5000 signal just went through - we could see .005 this afternoon, imo.......
Good Luck to us all - but I would not hold this thing 'long' IF we get back over even or even have profit.
Steve
From all that's going on - I think they could just plain old go out of business or just as well go to .02
It's a REAL crapshoot right now.
If Andrea's telling the truth about airport, OTC, etc - sure - it will recover and do ok. But I don't know how much I can trust someone who's already shown us a 'stupid mistake' track record; and I'm not talking about his criminal convictions.
Afternoon Delight.....
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Normally I'd agree with you Dave, but with THIS stock I don't feel right.From all that's going on - I think they could just plain old go out of business or just as well go to .02
It's a REAL crapshoot right now.
If Andrea's telling the truth about airport, OTC, etc - sure - it will recover and do ok. But I don't know how much I can trust someone who's already shown us a 'stupid mistake' track record; and I'm not talking about his criminal convictions.
REAL WORLD
quote:
Originally posted by TheRealSlimShady:
I dont mind trusting my money to a professed criminal, what the heck do you think banks are? Politicians? Preachers? Shoot Ill take a good ole criminal who can make real money any day of the week.
REAL WORLD
The market will turn for the better but until that happens majority of stocks will spiral
P.S. my other stocks are losing ground too. Your not alone. Its a waiting game.
PATIENCE = PROFIT $$Cha Ching$$
Earth_Shaker
PATIENCE = PROFIT (remember that)
Riding my GZFX and QBID happily higher!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
I dont understand why the price is being driven down, with free shares of a company being issued April 9th? That doesnt make sense. Wouldnt more people buy, and more free shares be given away? Any explanations?
B
Hippo the price on PAVP is so low NOW that im back in $$$$ Dont miss the boat on this one.
Rember when I took that profit on PAVP and everyone thought I was stupid. Now who is the DADDy?
Dont forget. This PR should not be forgotten !!!!
HOUSTON, Feb 17, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Beral Inc. has developed an acquisition strategy for ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) following the announcement that it has become an active shareholder of the company. Beral Inc.'s strategy is to restructure PAVP as a merchant bank or a holding company for valuable international assets and ventures. Mr. Andrew Racz (International VP of Finance) has identified several European financial institutions and investment management companies that would like to transfer their assets, specifically those worth at least $1M USD, into PAVP. Negotiations are proceeding well with these firms and details of the acquisitions will be announced shortly once they are finalized. Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share. Thus, PAVP's cash flow is unaffected by its contract with Beral Inc.
Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share.
PATIENCE = PROFIT
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[This message has been edited by TheRealSlimShady (edited March 23, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Shaker and real person, I like the way you two think. However, what makes you so sure PAVP will come up? Both of you say it will very positively. News is coming today, right? But might it drop AGAIN?
B
PATIENCE = PROFIT
THE MARKET IS TURNING weeeeeeeeeeeeee
DID they catch the Tallyban DUDE ????
Had to do some real work today.
So, what's happening...morning was slow but I see it's getting back up on Level 2
Malloy
Dave
Beral Inc.'s fee for their services consists of warrants issued by PAVP that are exercisable at $0.10 per share.
Malloy
Drove by the St-Hubert Airport this morning...I can tell you about it if you wish.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Afternoon Mal, we hit a low today at .006. Sucks huh? Glad to see you back, i enjoy your posts. We are still still waiting for the name change, glta.
B
March 23, 2004 15:04
ProActive Computer Finalizes Acquisition of Coastal Holdings, Inc. Will Open Offices in Houston, TX and Montreal, PQ
Jump to first matched term
HOUSTON, Mar 23, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) today is pleased to announce that it has finalized the acquisition of Coastal Holdings, Inc. (CSJJ: Pink Sheets). CSJJ is a debt-free public shell that is in good standing with no past or present legal problems with the SEC. In addition, all transfer and minute book records are up-to-date. Due to these qualities, CSJJ is a prime candidate to attain OTC Bulletin Board status in the near term. In a special meeting of the board of directors, Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi has been appointed the new chairman and CEO of the company. Andrea's goal is to transform CSJJ into a viable holding company that will invest in leading-edge and innovative technologies. CSJJ is in merger and acquisition negotiations with various private and public technology companies. Further details will be released once a binding letter of intent is signed with any of these companies.
PAVP shareholders will benefit from this acquisition of CSJJ. Shares of CSJJ will be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004. PAVP shareholders will receive 1 share of CSJJ common stock for every 100 shares of PAVP common stock owned. There will be no change to PAVP shareholders' positions.
PAVP is in the process of securing leases for company offices in downtown Houston, TX and Montreal, PQ. The addresses of these locations will be released shortly once the contracts have been signed. In addition, PAVP is in negotiations to hire a new Investor Relations firm to strengthen its IR initiative and solidify investor confidence in the company. The firm is a well-respected one with a wealth of experience providing investor relations services to successful OTC companies. The firm will be announced in the next day or so once a legal contract is signed by both parties.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE: ProActive Computer Services Inc.
ProActive Computer Services Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi, 514-830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca
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CSJJ is the new company for which we will acquire 1 share for every 100 shares of PAVP we hold!
YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!
salemm.
bid
1x.10
2x.08
1x.07
ask
1x.013
1x.30
2x1.01 (yes one dollar)
Malloy
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
No news about PAVP's name/cusip change. Could we be getting another PR soon?
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The same $1000 you spent could now buy you 151,000 shares of PAVP
and THAT translate into 1500 free shares or $150.
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Just read the PR. Sound great about the new free shares, especially trading at .10. Good to hear. But why is PAVP still low, we should be trading around the 8's by now!!! glta
B
no news about the name change...MMs still have a chance at accumulating!
Kathleen (PR lady) says:
salemm.
Dear Mr. ****:
Please accept my apologies on behalf of the Company for the delay and their responding to your previous e-mails. We will strive to improve on this aspect of the Company. We will be in a transition period for a short, and I thank you in advance for your patience to this matter.
With respect to the company ticker symbol and stock, my understanding is that on or around the 9th day of April, 2004 PAVP shareholders will receive one (1) share of the new public shell for every one hundred (100) shares of PAVP that they own (1:100). The new company should trade at approximately $1.00 par value.
Thank you for attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Kathleen
quote:
Originally posted by bloodynri:
how will this affect the price of CSJJ ? its 15 cents right now. I noticed all of you talking about 10 cents. Is it certain CSJJ will be 10 cents at the time of acquistion?
thanks
[no]
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
PLUS dont froget the FREE shares of FINGERPRINT tech company TOOO
This IS the fingerprint company...the shell will become it from what I can tell
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Someone posted this at RB:
Take it for what it's worth...Kathleen (PR lady) says:
salemm.Dear Mr. ****:
Please accept my apologies on behalf of the Company for the delay and their responding to your previous e-mails. We will strive to improve on this aspect of the Company. We will be in a transition period for a short, and I thank you in advance for your patience to this matter.
With respect to the company ticker symbol and stock, my understanding is that on or around the 9th day of April, 2004 PAVP shareholders will receive one (1) share of the new public shell for every one hundred (100) shares of PAVP that they own (1:100). The new company should trade at approximately $1.00 par value.
Thank you for attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Kathleen
So they're saying that they expect CSJJ to be at a dollar a share? Sorry, but I don't buy it...I'd LOVE to see that happen, but I don't see it being THAT high...my guess is about .25
quote:
Originally posted by bloodynri:
how will this affect the price of CSJJ ? its 15 cents right now. I noticed all of you talking about 10 cents. Is it certain CSJJ will be 10 cents at the time of acquistion?
thanks
Hey - I got my average down to .011 though - so not as bad
Looks like PAVP will be a PR mill the rest of this week.
Good Luck to us all
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by cyberrat67:
So they're saying that they expect CSJJ to be at a dollar a share? Sorry, but I don't buy it...I'd LOVE to see that happen, but I don't see it being THAT high...my guess is about .25
quote:
Actually, I think by that she meant PAVP (or the new ticker we will be trading at) will be at $1,00 PAR VALUE. Meaning, PAVP SHOULD be worth that much on the OTCBB when compared to PINKsheets.
salemm.
Not sure what you mean...do you mean that if/when PAVP (undre new symbol)hits the OTCBB, she expects it to be a buck a share, or is it a comparrison price, not actually the share price?
I'd LOVE for it to hit a buck, mind you, but I don't see that happening, or if it did, howwe'd unload all the shares we all have...
Last buy at .20
Level 2
bid
1x.14
1x.10
ask
1x.25
1x.30
2x1.01
NITE is putting its ask higher by the minutes.
I don't really care right now about PAVP tanking if CSJJ keeps on going up.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
.25 now and ask at .30
Well, we have a nice run for a change after PR :-)))
Malloy
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TALK ABOUT FAST MONEY
FREAKIN HEAVEN
THIS STOCK HAS A 6 DOLLAR HIGH
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
I PICKED UP 5000 SHARES OF CSJJ AT .25CENTSTALK ABOUT FAST MONEY
FREAKIN HEAVEN
THIS STOCK HAS A 6 DOLLAR HIGH
So these free shares are additional shares to add to our portfolios WEEEEEEE
After hour trades have been in the Millions the last 2 weeks...let see what will get today.
Malloy
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Patience = Profit
Thats just me.
No the MMs are purposely keeping this stock low.
Just buy buy buy then watch the money next week
quote:
Originally posted by stock_82:
A couple things....First CSJJ has to be at a dollar or whatever on April 9th in order for us to get that much out of it. If you look at shell stocks, historically, they shoot up and then calm back down. There is more than two weeks between now and the 9th. Alot can happen in that time. Second, PAVP still tanked. It goes down 13% on good news again. It is true we will be able to make money off the spin off, but is that what we are going to have to use to break even in this investment because the actual stock price is .005? I've never seen a stock with such good news go down so much. I do think PAVP still has some things up their sleeve....no mention of new ticker symbol or finger-print technology...at least it's my impression that CSJJ is not the fingerprint company. GLTA
IT didn't drop on the news...it has been dropping all day...it just hasn't recovered yet...Thanks to the MMs...as for the fingerprint company, why do you think it's another spin-off, with the exact same percentage? 1-100?
Montreal has 3 airports Mirabel (huge one now almost closed because it's too far from downtown and because Toronto took over), Dorval (almost no more room to put planes) and St-Hubert (15 minutes drive from downtown---the closest). St-Hubert used to be a military base (probably has some leftovers). It's a medium airport. Can accomodate International travel but more suited for private jet or regional transport. That's why when there a film making in Montreal, most of the Starts land there.
Want more???
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Mal, I would love to know! you can email me if you want. By the way, i sue Ameritrade and do the spin off shares automatically update in my portfolio? if now, how do i add them?
thanks
B
Current Capital Change:
shs decreased by 1 for 1200 split
Ex-Date:
Record Date:
Pay Date: 2003-11-20
i wonder what the os is on csjj
i got in csjj at .25 with 5000 shares i would love to see it at a dollar...
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
pics of st hubert? Remember that press release that told us to email them for info about the project? Well, I DID email them and never received any info... How about you guys?!
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quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Same here. I could go there and take pictures if you want?Malloy
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heh...that could be cool...Id really like to see the corporate standpoint on it as well. i will email them again tonight!
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
It MIGHT be out this afternoon or tomorrow morning, we might not be trading a new symbol til Friday. Right now i will be patient since we just got a 46% DIVIDEND.
But even if correct - ALL PAVP shareholders as of record date 4/9 get 1 share of CSJJ for every 100 PAVP shares they hold. So you can bet sure as they diluted the hell out of us the past month, they'll dilute the spin-off too. There are 1 billion shares of PAVP so theres the potential for 10,000,000 shares to be given away FREE to JUST shareholders. So God knows what happen to the value then, but I doubt it will still be .20-.30, imo. I bet there
are people who will buy a boatload of shares the 8th (9th is Good Friday) and sell on Monday the 12th - just to get the free shares.
Geeez - I averaged down today to .011 just before the news - thinking it would be the Airport news. I should have used that money to buy CSJJ - I would have at LEAST tripled my money and been out of the hole...
Let's see what the rest of the week brings -
I seriously don't think I'll be holding long enough to get the free shares next month - unless things work out and I can trade my way up to a few hundred thousand free shares or more.
I'll feel much better when this is back over a penny and I'm at LEAST even again... Wish I had traded it the past few weeks. Those 1/2 penny swings would have really added up........ I've never been a swing trader - but it's sure starting to look enticing.
Steve
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So, we get 1 CSJJ for 100 of PAVP we own as dividends, but what use are the PAVP shares that we own if the company is going to close? If PAVP is closing, won't that mean that it will then be worth nothing?
"Shares of the public shell will then be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004."
So which close of business are they talking about?
Sorry for the newbie questions.
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Will they even be doing anything?
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
pics of st hubert? Remember that press release that told us to email them for info about the project? Well, I DID email them and never received any info... How about you guys?!
Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by judibabes:
5 years ago, PAVP reached $3.50, WOW.
This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny.
I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.
dz
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Nighttrader. Your PAVP shares will just change symbols in your account. This is when the new ticker symbol is announced. You wont have a different number of shares. You will just have 10,000 ABCD shares instead of 10,000 PAVP shares. Then on april 9th you will receive shares of the spin off company.
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Hey guys I hate to bring this up but,the dividend shares will be distributed to shareholders of record as of April 9th. They have NOT stated the date that they will actually distribute the shares.That could be months away. Someone that has time might want to call and find out what the time frame is for distribution of the dividend.This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny.
I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.dz
good point dz... at first I was pretty happy with PAVP... Now I'm a bit curious. DD time!
News for 'PAVP' - (ProActive Computer Services, Inc. Names Taylor Capitol,
Inc. as their Primary Investor Relations Group)
HOUSTON, Mar 24, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc.
(PAVP:Pink Sheets) is pleased to announce Taylor Capitol, Inc. as their
primary
investor relations group. Taylor Capitol, Inc. has a wide network of
connections
in the investment community. This network ranges from Retail Brokers, Fund
Managers, Market Makers, Market Awareness companies, Investment Banks and
Senior
Level Management Consultants. Stephen Taylor, President of Taylor Capitol,
Inc.
has a background of working for UBS PaineWebber where he provided Equity
Research and experience as an Investment Banker in which capacity he
handled
numerous Mergers and Acquisitions.
Taylor Capitol, Inc. President, Stephen Taylor states: "Based on initial
discussions with ProActive Computer Services CEO, Andrea Cortellazzi, PAVP
appears to be a true, emerging growth company. I have spoken with a
majority of
the senior management and have become very interested in all aspects of
the
company, especially the fingerprint technology. We have several
initiatives
planned for PAVP in the near future and look forward to working with Mr.
Cortellazzi and his management in taking his Company to the next level."
For further information please contact Investor Relations at 973-351-3868.
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data,
constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties
that
could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or
implied by
such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties
include,
among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased
competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by
the
company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and
fluctuations in
its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors
that
could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained
by
contacting the company by phone at 973-351-3868. Please also be advised
that the
company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and
Exchange
Commission.
SOURCE: ProActive Computer Services Inc.
CONTACT: Taylor Capitol, Inc.
Stephen Taylor, 973-351-3868
STEPHTAYL9@AOL.COM
dz
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Just called the new IR... Spoke to Stephen.
He was speaking with another investor... will call me back soon.
I want to ask him if management intends to dillute, forward split or whatever, the new shell CSJJ.
If you have questions you want me to ask... post them here... SOON... before he calls me back, ok?
Hurry! I'll ask him every question you have.
salemm.
- Is PAVP seeking name change and listing on OTCBB exchange? When will the change occur exactly? Will trading be halted temporarily?
- Is CSJJ seeking listing on OTCBB also? When is it anticipated?
- Is the buyback program still on? Has it started yet? When will it start?
- Seeing that CSJJ is at 750% of yesterday's price and worth 100 times more than PAVP, does management plan to dillute, forward split or any other maneuver that would lower the value of the current pps of CSJJ?
- When will CSJJ shares be distributed in PAVP shareholders' hands, EXACTLY? (meaning when can we trade them?)
- Is there something current PAVP shareholders must do or say to their brokerage firms to alert them that they are entitled to CSJJ shares?
- When will there be news on the St-Hubert Airport development?
Anything else??
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by onthemark:
whats their openion on why pavp is still down and the shell pulling the price up with it?
dz
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Thanks for doing this Salemm. That's really cool of you. You da man.
By the way - I don't think those spin off shares of CSJJ will be issued for ages - as in: months and months.
I believe Ibiz did the same thing last Nov -and no one had received their shares yet...
I believe all April 9th means is you have to be a shareholder ON THAT DATE to be eligible to receive the free shares at a LATER date. I doubt I'll be here.
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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Another meaningless PR, DOWN almost another 10% - like clockwork. Guess we need to sell as soon as a PR comes out and buy back 1/2 hour later!By the way - I don't think those spin off shares of CSJJ will be issued for ages - as in: months and months.
I believe Ibiz did the same thing last Nov -and no one had received their shares yet...
I believe all April 9th means is you have to be a shareholder ON THAT DATE to be eligible to receive the free shares at a LATER date. I doubt I'll be here.
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The price didn't drop after the PR...I agree that it's frustrating, but I'm still in long term...I don't see any reason to sell right now. The MMs are plaiyng with us
- Is PAVP seeking name change and listing on OTCBB exchange? When will the change occur exactly? Will trading be halted temporarily?
- Is CSJJ seeking listing on OTCBB also? When is it anticipated?
- Is the buyback program still on? Has it started yet? When will it start?
- Seeing that CSJJ is at 750% of yesterday's price and worth 100 times more than PAVP, does management plan to dillute, forward split or any other maneuver that would lower the value of the current pps of CSJJ?
- When will CSJJ shares be distributed in PAVP shareholders' hands, EXACTLY? (meaning when can we trade them?)
- Is there something current PAVP shareholders must do or say to their brokerage firms to alert them that they are entitled to CSJJ shares?
- When will there be news on the St-Hubert Airport development?
- In your opinion, why is PAVP still experiencing a declining pps despite positive news and a surging shell company pps?
Unfortunately... as could be expected, he did not have the answers (well, he just started, right?).
But, I dictated them word for word to him and he wrote them down.
He will get answers straight from the horse's mouth, and call or email me back.
When I mentioned the amount of money ($100,000) waiting to be invested in PAVP depending on answers to these questions (and especially because price of PAVP is great now!), he assured me he'd get answers VERY soon... and of course, offered to send me many other 'winning' companies he's dealing with right now, that I might want to consider investing in.
In any case, when I receive email or phone conversation, I will post everything IN IT'S ENTIRETY on this page.
Until then, stay tuned... and let's hope all answers are what we WANTED to hear!
salemm.
Wish we all sold yesterday and bought Paris Hilton!!! - WNMI Was up 300% yesterday from .003 to .012 and today has hit .0165 so far!
Why can't this pig do that? At the rate this thing is going we'll see .003 before .012 again....... Where's the Airport info they've been promising?
Hey... do you think I should post answers at RB too... just to quiet down the ZOO over there?? I've been mulling that over. Tell me what you think, all.
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
ask if the company is a scam! come STRAIGHT OUT and ask that. Wait for his reaction. Then, after he makes his excuse, ask, "Why does PPS keep dropping with each POSTIVE PR?" Dont lead him on about MM games or anything. I am curious to see how he reacts. Inform him that we expected a PR about a name change and didn't get it. Ask WHY?, not "When will the name change occur?" PAVP is a corporation, and we are a part of it. We must hold them accountable to a certain extent. Dont be mean, but be forward! I would CERTAINLY do it, but I am at work and dont have the liberty =(
IF it went up 100% -it would even get MANY of us near even........ I just can't wait to get out....WOuld be nice to get out even or better - and I'm NOT gonna sell before symbol change and hopefully Airport news.
Good luck to us all.......
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
I may call this guy myself. This is in the f'n .005's now. What a POS paper mill.IF it went up 100% -it would even get MANY of us near even........ I just can't wait to get out....WOuld be nice to get out even or better - and I'm NOT gonna sell before symbol change and hopefully Airport news.
Good luck to us all.......
CONTACT: Taylor Capitol, Inc.
Stephen Taylor, 973-351-3868
STEPHTAYL9@AOL.COM
salemm.
Salemm: How's this for negative:
How they could put out a PR with a website in it that they didn't even own is beyond me, and later call it a mistake.
How they could take another company's product, Fx Lock; and put it on the website of a co. we don't even KNOW if they even own or not - and LATER say it was 'miscommunication' borders on outright fraud.
They hire a PR lady and fire her a week later (or she got disgusted and quit)
It's incredible.......
We're at .0052 now and I have lost so much here now I can't think straight....
Tell me 1 good positive thing about this POS co? They are a paper mill for shares - to make THEMSELVES millions as they steal from us, imho.
I HOPE this is just the idiot MMs covering for symbol change run-up, but EVEN if I come out of this whole - or with a HUGE profit - I will NOT feel good about this experience with this stock.....
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Hey guys I hate to bring this up but,the dividend shares will be distributed to shareholders of record as of April 9th. They have NOT stated the date that they will actually distribute the shares.That could be months away. Someone that has time might want to call and find out what the time frame is for distribution of the dividend.This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny.
I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.dz
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Fortunately, I did not risk much, and I got in at .0075 . I said I would buy more at .005, and average down, but man, this thing is looking like a rat hole. Someone talk me into or out of it . LOL
I may miss the big run back up to .008 but, I won't buy til there's a pattern to the chart. Just my opinion. bought @.0083 held a week and sold @.0083. During that time I missed 2 chances to sell over .01. The thing that worried me the evening it tanked was that that morning it went down and hit .0079. To me that was a sell signal.The only thing I based that on was chart support levels and I felt that the bears were winning. I could have easily been wrong but the important thing was that I had a chart to work with. At this point (for me) there's just no way of knowing where its headed in the short term. I would love to get back in as I feel this stock could run hard and fast from these levels but, I'm cautious here. I'm still new and by no means a daytrader. I look for good solid entry points with easy to read resistance and support levels of companies that seem solid. So take this with a grain of salt from a newbie. Hope it helps.
God please save us all.
I hate this stock. ... I hate it
quote:
Originally posted by buyrsell:
I may miss the big run back up to .008 but, I won't buy til there's a pattern to the chart. Just my opinion. bought @.0083 held a week and sold @.0083. During that time I missed 2 chances to sell over .01. The thing that worried me the evening it tanked was that that morning it went down and hit .0079. To me that was a sell signal.The only thing I based that on was chart support levels and I felt that the bears were winning. I could have easily been wrong but the important thing was that I had a chart to work with. At this point (for me) there's just no way of knowing where its headed in the short term. I would love to get back in as I feel this stock could run hard and fast from these levels but, I'm cautious here. I'm still new and by no means a daytrader. I look for good solid entry points with easy to read resistance and support levels of companies that seem solid. So take this with a grain of salt from a newbie. Hope it helps.
quote:
Originally posted by penny_stock:
Man I bought at 0.006 to average down ,now after the work I c 0.005. What is happening with this stock. Is it day time stealing. This company CEO is having personal ATM machine to steal our money.God please save us all.
I hate this stock. ... I hate it
The CEO and major investors probably are losing on paper much more than anyone. Hopefully!
quote:
Originally posted by buyrsell:
The CEO and major investors probably are losing on paper much more than anyone. Hopefully!
.005 x .0051
.005 x .006 is NEXT
Salemm - CO. could be buying back at these low prices and will dump again on symboil change run-up. Who knows.
George said CortDev/Airport PR will be out this afternoon to clarify everything. We'll see - or will we drop to .003????? ;-(
quote:
Originally posted by penny_stock:
Does anyone have any clue , why this happens?
I would say news that came was dealing with events that won't be translated into gross/profit margins in time to suit many large shareholders who felt the stock was trading at a premium . Then the chart support disentegrated and caused a panic selloff. That's my best guess because I don't know about shorts and such. I do feel like this stock has the potential to rise though because of the free shares and all. I hope it does. I know how it feels. I tied up 5 grand in nokia and waited and waited and waited while other stocks ran like hell. I figure I lost $600 on the trade and didn't make a couple thousand because I was in the wrong stock. Faith in Nok cost me a bundle.
Lunch break...whooo...things are not going our way today.
I read everything again...and all your opinions and here's what I think. THey needed money to buy the Shell co. and to continue in their effort of opening their offices, etc... So, they have been selling stocks for cash for the last few weeks. That's the only reasonable explanation I can find right now for that price drop. I don't believe anymore that shorting is responsible because of the symbol change that was announce...the MM didn't move an inch monday.
ANyway, if it's true and if they use the money wisely to get some real business going, I will get my money back...
I prefer to have faith in human kind. Makes my day better.
Good luck all.
Malloy
Check out the intraday charts and compare the drastic drop times with PR release times. This morning approx. 10:00 PR release, PAVP starts to drop; Yesterday afternoon after PAVP was recovering, drops again after PR is released in the afternoon. Check the charts...it's pretty obvious. I'm not saying I'm goig to sell. I think it is a REAL company and after the name/symbol changes, the shorting will be over. Just try to get your cost average as low as possible.
quote:
Originally posted by cyberrat67:
The price didn't drop after the PR...I agree that it's frustrating, but I'm still in long term...I don't see any reason to sell right now. The MMs are plaiyng with us
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Your only enemy is fear....
P.S. Many companies fail...they have no product...this one does..sums it all up..smile, when you lose faith, love turns to hate.....
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Your only enemy is fear....
I did not expect this stock to get hammered as hard as it has been. The PR that will move this stock is not yet out. Until the ticker change the MM will do everything they can to get cheaper shares. I'm not asking you to buy more shares. I'm just saying that once the ticker is released we will have a day with 200 million+ volume and be up over 100%.
quote:
Originally posted by TheRealSlimShady:
Sometimes its just best to walk away. I am not even going to look at PAVP for a week or two.
Yup i think it bottomed out
Yesterday, that stock opened at .003 and is now .023 (went up 300% yesterday and just about 100% today).
All we did was go down , down and down some more. I'm even getting killed AGAIN after averaging down to .011 by getting more at .0069 yesterday. Talk about putting good money after bad..... Sorry I'm ranting - this just pzzz's me off - that this is sooo manipulated. It's has to be MMs covering or Andrea dumping more shares - what sane person would dump before symbol change??
Good luck - time to get away from computer for a while...
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by will:
OK, I chilled for a few hours. I did watch the price though, so I cheated. I was about to buy more at .005 but those .004's scared me to death. This thing doesn't know a bottom. I asked yesterday if any one ever experienced this before, and if so, what could be anticipated. I would bet my hat, ass and gloves, no one would have predicted this. so, that being said, I think I will just wait and watch. I simply do not know what to do, or what to expect from this stock.
you are right, we cant know what to expect, ONLY becasue this stock is being manipulated. (I HAVE NO CLUE by whom, but there is clearly manipulation). The only reason I hold is becasue all of this day to day crap happens, but stocks MUST correct themselves. So, I wait and see!
I wouldn't touch it with a 40 foot pole. Never has any real volume and is being manipulated like this. .15 to .75 Yeah - right, on a pink!
Down we go again........0053 x .0056
WNMI flying towards .03 It hurts to know I had the choice yesterday - and averaged down here (bought more at .0069 to avg. down to .011 and am getting killed some more) and could have sold all this POS and been UP $6,000 now instead of DOWN sooooo badly it hurts to say it.......
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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Will -I wouldn't touch it with a 40 foot pole. Never has any real volume and is being manipulated like this. .15 to .75 Yeah - right, on a pink!
Down we go again........0053 x .0056
WNMI flying towards .03 It hurts to know I had the choice yesterday - and averaged down here (bought more at .0069 to avg. down to .011 and am getting killed some more) and could have sold all this POS and been UP $6,000 now instead of DOWN sooooo badly it hurts to say it.......
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its the bid/ask on that stock. Market makers are VERY divided.... I still wouldnt get near it... heck it would probably be safer in Paris Hilton's lower region, even tho I'd assume that would be playing with fire.. HEHE
My MDDM is tanking too from 3.50 to 2.60
We are entering the most crucial phase of PAVP ownership. Once the new ticker symbol is announced, which i pray will be tomorrow, the MM will start to cover. Now, I URGE investors not to be hasty to sell. Heres why. For the last 8 trading sessions or so, us PAVP holders have stomached some horrible drops. You have earned what is coming to you, give it a chance. I personally beleive that the new ticker will be announced tomorrow and we will be trading the new symbol on Monday. This leaves 2 days for the MM to cover their shorts assuming it gets announced before the bell tomorrow. Although it amazes me, the MM have been shorting this stock heavily as recently as Teusday. The way I see it, they have written off the price spike as a given, and are trying to implement several small rounds of sell then buy to cover in one day in order to make more money before they have to cover their significant short position. The important thing to remember here is that this stock is worth over .01 on technicals alone. The chart says it would move there without news. The reason its disobeying the chart is MM manipulation. I would suggest that you all choose an exit price and stick to it. IMO any exit under .015 is cheating yourself out of hard earned profits for bearing this one out. My current exit price is at .03 which could move up or down depending on how much the true naked short position is. I wish you all the best of luck during the coming days. IMO opinion worst case scenario this thing pops up to about .013, and if it only went that high I would be exceedingly surprised. Best case scenario is INOV to GBLT(not sure of symbols there). I think that .08 should not be left out of the discussion. Like I said every investor will choose their own exit which suits their comfort level. IMO i have earned a huge bagger here and am willing to wait til the shorts have covered all their shares to see how many I can get. God Bless.
[This message has been edited by roger7485 (edited March 25, 2004).]
Can you explain this, "Best case scenario is INOV to GBLT(not sure of symbols there). I think that .08 should not be left out of the discussion." BTW, the symbol is GLBT, I think. I am not sure of your reference here, I don't watch, or know anything about either one of them.
thinking of buying another 40,000 shares
t
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ProActive Computer Services, Inc. Provides Update on Status of CortDev Inc. St. Hubert Airport Redevelopment Project
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25 March 2004, 10:34am ET
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 25, 2004--ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) is pleased to announce that the architectural drawings for the modernization of the St. Hubert Airport is being drafted. PAVP has retained an experienced and well-respected Montreal-based architectural firm, Groupe Eleclerc, to complete the layout. These drawings illustrate the 52,000 square-foot building construction hangar on a 160,000 square-foot lot, complete with new offices, workshop, larger ramp and additional aircraft parking spaces. Once the drawings have been finalized, they will be submitted to the Director General of the St. Hubert Airport, Mr. Michel Beaudoin. These documents along with the CortDev Inc. Charter and business plan that Mr. Beaudoin already has in his possession will secure the lease of the St. Hubert property. PAVP is currently screening candidates for the project manager position and anticipates that it will be filled by the end of next week.
About CortDev Inc.
CortDev Inc. is a Canadian federal incorporation in good standing with all relevant regulatory bodies. Its date of incorporation was September 5th, 2003 as 6135919 Canada Inc. It is a functioning company under the legal name of Developpements Cortdev. Its corporate office is 6525 DeCarie Blvd. Suite 208, Montreal, PQ. The corporation's primary business activity is real estate development.
Status of Name Change
Following the acquisition of Cortdev Inc., a Canadian airport redevelopment firm, PAVP applied for a name change to more accurately reflect its current line of business. The company is awaiting the stamped articles of amendment from the state of Nevada to complete this process. PAVP management apologizes for any confusion created surrounding the exact date when the name and ticker symbol change was forecasted to be finalized. The company has done its part and is now dependent on the regulatory bodies to provide their seal of approval, which has taken longer than expected.
Opening of Company Offices
Mentioned Last Change
PAVP 0.0049 0.0006dollars or (10.90%)
PAVP, soon to be CortDev Inc., has entered into negotiations to lease office space on the 18th floor at 1 Place Ville Marie, Montreal, PQ. This 41-storey building is an ideal choice for PAVP's Montreal-based office, due to its location in a busy downtown area and its exclusively modern look that is equipped with the most recent technologies to service growing businesses and their clientele. In addition, PAVP is negotiating for office space in the Galleria district of Houston, TX.
Status of OTC Bulletin Board Application
PAVP has entered into an agreement to acquire an OTC Bulletin Board shell. According to the company's legal department, this will expedite the application process and enable PAVP to attain OTC status sooner than originally expected. Further details on this acquisition will be released upon its finalization. PAVP has also retained the services of an accountant who will prepare the necessary filings to submit as part of the OTC application.
Final Comments
CEO Andrea Cortellazzi stated: "The above-mentioned status report on the CortDev project was provided to ensure that our shareholders feel secure about their investment in our company. A package that includes images of the St. Hubert airport as well as a sampling of the architectural drawings of the new hangar and facility is in the final preparation stages for mailing to all shareholders."
For further information please contact Investor Relations at (973) 351-3868
Malloy
Just Learning... I detect a negative tone in your message (nothing wrong with that...) but WHY? It reads all GOOD to me! Answers nagging shareholder questions... provides more opportunities for dd (St-Hubert project), new offices, manager position...
I suppose people will tell me this is STILL a scam??
salemm.
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Originally posted by Just Learning:
first, are we looking for another tanking? Secondly, whats taking so long with the dang name change. It almost sounds like they are trying to put the blame on someone else for the delay? hmmmmm????
B
I doubt it - but maybe this PR will get us back up to .008-.009 and when the symbol FINALLY comes out we can go somewhere....
What I DID get from the news is they're trying to project the fact that they are a legitimate business
We shall see.......
t
Their gain today is .0076 so far, that's MORE than our PPS and Their pps was only .0049 at this time Tuesday.
Does that mean there's HOPE ?????
Let's see................
They have PAris - We have Andrea !!!! LOL
Hey - we CAN hope......
Good luck - I think we're stuck here now til symbol change. They (MMS) don't want us to trade with these big spreads.
Damn - PAris up to 3 now..........
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Originally posted by greenhorn:
I was looking at RB also and I got a newbie question. Are these bashers really buyers trying to run it down and buy it low? I am wondering why spend so much time bashing, if you do not believe in a stock , move on and spend your time doing DD on another stock. There must be winners out there you could be finding. Why do they spend so much energy and time bashing it makes the bashers no money unless secretly they buy the stock. Can somebody please explain? Greenhorn
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
There is a far larger IR company named Taylor, but we didnt get that one. We got the guy working out of his house in NJ. He really just serves to field all the bs questions that investors barrage the company with. If you owned General Electric stock would you call the company and ask about exactly when the name change was and threaten to sell if they didnt tell you? If you did then some 20 year old intern would be bawling her eyes out because she couldnt answer you. Sometimes you have to stop playing Sherlock Holmes and just let the company prove themselves. I anticipate the new ticker soon, and I anticipate multiplying in price several times over when it comes.
as investors, we have a duty to make sure the company is headed in the right direction, and not down the chit chute with my money. Like i initially said, Im only in for a few hundred bucks, no biggie. Nonetheless, when I see a PR guy for a canadian company with MY area code, I look into it. And when I see the number registered to a private residence in a poor city, I begin to wonder. I STILL have faith in CortDev, I just want some answers!
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 25, 2004).]
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Originally posted by Just Learning:
I apologize salemm. I did have a negative tone. Im just getting a little peturbed over the past few weeks. I still have faith. (a small amount). im waiting for the new ticker, and hopefully stay in long enough to get the free shares. GLTA
B
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I have shares I bought at .0165 and some at .01. I can probably only lose a few hundred at worse since I originally bought at .004 and traded for free shares and cash. But I thought the news was good and added more shares. I plan on waiting it out. I do know that other companies also hire people to field questions. If they are polite and knowledgeable it can be a good thing. I am hoping the symbol change will be the magic bullet. GLTA-there is a lesson here for all of us-Don't put all your eggs in one basket- don't go too pink- I personally have too much in LBTT and way too many pink companies. I like LBTT but shouldn't have as much there as I do. -Debi
I just realized how insensitive and umsympathetic that must have sounded. It wasn't meant that way, only that I have a lot more concern about LBTT for both of us.
[This message has been edited by will (edited March 25, 2004).]
Buying this was my biggest mistake ever in the market. NO - averaging down HERE Tuesday instead of buying WNMI was! Would have made up for all losses and then some.
Good Luck.
PS: I wouldn't be as miserable about this if I was buying in NOW! BAD timing....
Well that's my sermon for the day. Everyone have a good weekend, Won't check til late fri...gone fishing.
the orders just sat today like the mm's didn't want to fill them they took awhile.... hmmmmm
i picked up 1,4 million shares today even got the last buy for today with the 300000 i'm going to try for a cool 2mil total in pavp. chart's have a nice oversold look.... buy
risk = reward and nothing goes down forever !!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
well i have been buying pavp most of the aft.the orders just sat today like the mm's didn't want to fill them they took awhile.... hmmmmm
i picked up 1,4 million shares today even got the last buy for today with the 300000 i'm going to try for a cool 2mil total in pavp. chart's have a nice oversold look.... buy
risk = reward and nothing goes down forever !!!!!
it's about to rebound what's the rule with three strong red candels IT'S CALLED A REBOUND!!!!!! LOL
IT MIGHT BE MONDAY BUT I BET FRIDAY AFT IS GOING TO SEE A PPS SPIKE!!!!!
i have 6k still to invest and i like pavp for the rebound call me nut's!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
My view is look at the weekly chart they are on the middle bollinger band this is the bottom. OVERSOLD DAILY, NUETRAL WEELKY
waclyyay[dc][pi!d20,2!f][vc60][iut!Ub14!Ud20]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PAVP,uu[w,a]waclyyay[d c][pi!d20,2!f][vc60][iut!Ub14!Ud20]&pref=Git's about to rebound what's the rule with three strong red candels IT'S CALLED A REBOUND!!!!!! LOL
IT MIGHT BE MONDAY BUT I BET FRIDAY AFT IS GOING TO SEE A PPS SPIKE!!!!!
i have 6k still to invest and i like pavp for the rebound call me nut's!
this is a weekly chart for gzfx look at jan 2003 the whole month is DOWN. this chart shows there are 4 down candels with three very strong long red candels. after the strong red there was a week that showed were the stocks true direction is up!!
just watch next week could be fun!!!!!
this stock sat around .015 for weeks with no PR...and like already stated there r a lot of positive things surrounding this one
.02 is not unreasonable before April 9th when we get FREE shares of CSJJ
in until at least the 9th
t
Hippo - You're right - I AM frustrated. More at myself than the stock. But how many stocks keep getting lots of good PRs and go down, down, down. I can't thnk of ANY other.
There IS hope though.........go read:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/005743.html
Briar Rabbit ---- Please dont throw me in the briar patch!
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Slim shady. Im trying to keep a positive attitude. And goodness i hope it does POP> but what makes you so sure it will? How can we even antipate it with all the stuff going on? Who really knows about this stock. Period.
B
Yeah but who knows with any of it right? I make lots of money taking risks most other think are to high, I have cleared $30,000.00 this month alone and I do it by buying stocks at bargains. I think PAVP is a bargain anywhere below .0090 I dont have charts or news or anything else (like they matter with OTCBB) I play on trends. I am holding PAVP long and I am swing trading some of it daily making money the whole way down, its all good!
What about buying
UVCL Now
XRYM Now
ADOT NOW
CYTP
IBZT All cheap now I just got IBZT at .035 and xrym at .08 Yesterday but UVCL I not sure
Dave
[This message has been edited by realperson (edited March 26, 2004).]
all my buy's are in between .0052 .0053 i feel confident that it's going back up!
best of luck to all!!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
well bought some more today at .0052 for 369000 shares up to 1,769,000 sharesall my buy's are in between .0052 .0053 i feel confident that it's going back up!
best of luck to all!!
still have 10mil qbid but will get back in to that one aound .0027 i hope....
my feel on pavp is the mm's are putting up a huge short in hopes that the symbol change will clear the books
or am i completely wrong
God save us all.
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
I'm in at .0095, .0068 and .0060... each time thinking it couldn't possibly go lower!
So... I think YOU'RE sittin' on gold, there, Doji! Nice timing!
salemm.
then the mm's would have to carry there short till after the sho ruleing and if it's in our favor they will have to cover!
mm's are evil dickhead*s!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
what if pavp said we are delaying the name change of pavp till after april 1stthen the mm's would have to carry there short till after the sho ruleing and if it's in our favor they will have to cover!
mm's are evil dickhead*s!
I sure don't think anyone will be Laughing - in this case I think it will/would be a Sigh of Relief.
By the way - they ARE Liars, imo - because in Feb. 9th PR they claimed airport project was "well under way".
READ: "Phase I of the project is well underway and CortDev has reached several major milestones. These include the securing of approximately $4.5 million of financing from major financial institutions as well as private investors from both Canada and the U.S."
People have called Michael Beaudoin and the airport - and apparently nothing had been done before this week. I believe he (or someone at St. Hubert) had given them an info packet that had to be filled out and returned and never was til MAYBE now.
Also - the BIG headline - "ProActive Computer Services Completes Acquisition of CortDev Inc." is SMOKE & MIRRORS, again all imo. DOn't you think CortDev stands for Cortellazi Development? He made up the name/corp. and PAVP acquired it. I'll bet it has NO assets and has NO capital....imo
Read this CAREFULLY:
February 09, 2004 14:48
ProActive Computer Services Completes Acquisition of CortDev Inc.
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HOUSTON, Feb. 9, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (Pink Sheets:PAVP) has finalized the acquisition of CortDev Inc., a Canadian airport redevelopment/enhancement firm. CortDev's current project is the redevelopment of the St. Hubert airport in Montreal.
Phase I of the project is well underway and CortDev has reached several major milestones. These include the securing of approximately $4.5 million of financing from major financial institutions as well as private investors from both Canada and the U.S. The schematic of the planned modernization program and feasibility study has cleared with the relevant regulatory bodies, including Transport Canada. It has also been met with tremendous approval and piqued the interest of prospective tenants (e.g. conference organizers and hospitality companies). CContract negotiations with the interested parties are in progress and will be announced upon completion. CortDev has set a start date of mid-June that will involve a groundbreaking ceremony.
ProActive Computer Services will soon change its name to better reflect its current business operations and strategic plan going forward and plans to be fully reporting within six to nine months. CortDev will add considerable value to PAVP and the company is committed to making other acquisitions that are good strategic fits and well-positioned for growth.
According to CEO Andrea Cortellazzi, "ProActive is now on the right track for growth ... this is just the first step on the path to profitability." Due to the increasing workload in managing the company, PAVP has initiated a search for a CFO. The company expects to announce the nomination by the end of the month.
For more information, please call 514-830-3348.
Good Luck to us all -
Again - I just can't wait to get out of this stock. IF I felt they were legitimate - I wouldn't care if I held 6 months - but I don't even think they'll be here in 6 months - let alone if they are what they will have done to the pps. I'm afraid of a RS RIGHT NOW. I don't care WHAT George told me. I've had CEO's lie to my face before - and others will do it in the future.
HELL IF I KNOW I BOUGHT THIS TANKER BEACUSE IT'S OVERSOLD
I THINK
i'm looking for a rebound i'm going to ride it up and get out before something like this happens again!!!
lol these little suckers give me grey hair when i hold to long!!!!
By: xxxxxx
26 Mar 2004, 12:25 PM EST
Msg. 36498 of 36524
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George,
How are we going to re-build trust in PAVP? We are going to release PRs like yesterdays that provide all the verifiable facts and details of where we stand with repect to our business. We will refrain fomr providing expected or anticipated dates of when things should happen and only release it when it does happen. The name change has been approved and we are awaiting documents from Nevada. The website is being constructed as we speak with images from the airport. We are pursuing OTC status, Andrea is meeting with accountant next week to prepare necessary filings. Andrea has a clean record; that case did not result in anything and is in no way a reflection of PAVP. The company is on the right track and the shareholders who are patient and focused on the long-term will benefit.
Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
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From: xxxxxxxxxx
To: georgeabi@rogers.com
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:02 AM
Subject: is pavp still selling?
And how are we gonna build trust back to pavp? you do realize the name change? The websites? The otcbb mentioned it two different way we are going on?? The problems Andrea had in his past?? The billion shares dumped on the laps of investors that you were looking out for?
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[This message has been edited by Doji say what!! (edited March 26, 2004).]
Just spoke to the Transfer Agent, Mr. Bill Little.....
his phone number, 281-339-2451
1)the name change has officially taken place as of 03/23/04, he said that he called the appropriate offices in Nevada yesterday afternoon and that the Articles of Incorporation from the State of Nevada have been sent out and he expects them tomorrow. THE NAME CHANGE HAS ALREADY OCCURRED!
2)Once he receives the Articles of Incorporation, he mails them to Nasdaq and should receive the new symbol in approx. 1 day.
3) then he sends the symbol and appropriate info to the DTC. That should take 2-3 days.
4)Then we get the name change.
My guess, late next week we will see the name change!
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gurn, I wouldn't play with CSJJ here unless you have balls of steel! hahahahah, if it dips below .10 on the ask I may get some. Not sure what the name change will do but look at the big picture.
1)April 1st, new NASD rules take effect ending Naked Shorting from foreign account
2)name, symbol and cusip change probably late next week sometime.
3)free shares in CSJJ for all PAVP shareholders of record on April 9th. Transfer agent told me that April 9th is rock solid. "Put it in your pipe and smoke it", his words exactly!
I called the St. Hubert airport a couple days ago because I, too, was getting a little nervous about the possibility of a scam. I called the number from this website (Transport Canada):
http://www. tc. gc. ca/quebec/en/airports/yhu_bus. htm
[phone number is (450) 678-6030]
The woman who answered the phone transferred me to a guy who she said was the airport manager (I didn't ask his name) and he confirmed the following for me without hesitation:
1. Cortdev is indeed planning to build a hangar there
2. Cortdev has performed a survey of the land
He said that the survey was all that had been done so far, and his statements are in line with the last PR.
My first reaction after this call was to get MORE nervous because I thought the hangar was supposedly already under construction, but after seeing the last PR about the hangar blueprints being drawn up I now feel at ease with the whole thing.
I can see where some might believe that PAVP is a scam due to the fact that they seem to be in a really early stage of development without much of a history to speak of, but so far the information that they're releasing is all pretty straightforward and consistent. I see no reason to question their legitimacy, but I will continue (like the rest of us) to watch the PRs closely and make sure they continue to match actions to words.
[This message has been edited by TheRealSlimShady (edited March 26, 2004).]
GFYF -- at .0015 a few days ago, it soared to .0040 within a day.
Qbid -- Yep i called it at .0001 need I say more?
DFRC -- I called DFRC this morning at 8:30 it moved 15 points before 10:30.
Yeah yeah I know I havent listed any of my losers but trust me I WIN a lot more than I lose these days. I seem to be gettin better and I am gonna quit my job soon and do this full time!
Matt,
They will be distributed at a later date but you must be a shareholder as of April 9. It typically takes 3 months to be approved for OTC status but we expect to attain it much faster than that.
Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
[This message has been edited by realperson (edited March 26, 2004).]
We really needed it to happen when we were at .01 - Let's just hope for the best......
I'd like to wake up some morning next week with this stock at .04+ - and realize all this torture had just been a bad dream....
Good thing people can't recall pain. When this runs you'll be so delighted you won't even remember the week(s) of suffering.
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I was trying to buy at .0048, but it never visited that price this afternoon. I saw .005, but had decided on the .0048 as the bottom. ( I know it is a small amount of $ the .0002 difference, just trying to develop some discipline. Decide, then stay the course). Tomorrow we'll see how it goes, seems to break below that .005 in the mornings and bounces back up to .006 and closes between .005 and .0055. I might consider getting in at .005, if it doesn't duck below it in the morning.
Good Luck everyone
Conservative:
let's have a little fun with numbers.....
1. worst case...assume 1 billion O/S for PAVP @ .0050 =
market cap of $5,000,000
2. what assets does PAVP own ?
A. CSJJ shell 16 million share float @.28 @ est 90% owned =
$4,000,000
B. PAVP $1,000,000 cash for equity major Euro funding
C. PAVP $4,000,000 cash (minimum) from other share sales
(float, restricted increases)
C. Digitalus est. $15,000,000 revenue 2005...value at 33.3%
of annual revenue = $5,000,000
3. other potential
A. airport est. $1,500,000 annual revenue fuel farm...
value at 50% of annual revenue = $750,000
B. airport est. $2,500,000 annual revenue hangar,
warehouse space rentals...value at 50% of annual
revenue = $1,250,000
4. total PAVP value per above $16,000,000
5. PPS .016
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Optimisitic:
let's have a little fun with numbers (re-calc).....
1. worst case...assume 1 billion O/S for PAVP @ .0050 =
market cap of $5,000,000
2. what assets does PAVP own ?
A. CSJJ shell 16 million share float @.28 @ est 90% owned =
$4,000,000
B. PAVP $1,000,000 cash for equity major Euro funding
C. PAVP $4,000,000 cash (minimum) from other share sales
(float, restricted increases)
C. Digitalus est. $15,000,000 revenue 2005...value at 33.3%
of annual revenue = $5,000,000
3. other potential
A. airport est. $1,500,000 annual revenue fuel farm...
value at 150% of annual revenue = $2,250,000
B. airport est. $2,500,000 annual revenue hangar,
warehouse space rentals...value at 150% of annual
revenue = $3,750,000
C. CSJJ share price could easily double = $4,000,000
D. name change, OTCBB listing = $6,000,000 (.006 pps)
4. total PAVP value per above $30,000,000
5. PPS .03, after hitting high with momentum of .05
I personally think it will be somewhere in between the two, but closer to the latter than the former. But right now PAVP is not only way oversold, but it is also way undervalued.
quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
We will not have shares appear in our account on April 9th. It usually takes a couple weeks to distribute everything to the real shareholders. I estimate that we will be able to trade our shares sometime in early May. But yes you can sell all your PAVP on April 10th and still receive the spin off shares as per my understanding. The distribution occurs to shareholders "on record" as having shares at the close on April 8th actually because April 9th we dont trade because of Good Friday..I think. It might be a half day.
This stock smells worse than dead fish to me right now. This thing needs to double and triple and even quadruple for most to even get EVEN. Nite is way down at .002 now on the bid - and unfortunately we know what THAT usually means.......
Roger - lots of times we don't see spin-off shares for MONTHS - In this case - I'd be surprised if they're EVER seen because the way this stock has been manipulated there may be NO value come April 9th.....It's situations like this - and the 'unknown' that I told you to never put all your eggs in one basket no matter how much of a 'sure thing' you believe it is......
Hope we all get out of this alive.......
I think this stock is consolidating for an upward move. How high I dunno. The MMs have played a large part in dragging this stock to its knees and trust me they have the ability to take it lower, however the good news is that the "CHARTS" say it getting ready to move up. Charts are only so dependable with pennies but it makes me feel better about holding.
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Originally posted by Just Learning:
Thanks for the positive Slim. I see you making a lot of posts. I am in on this one for a few weeks and added two or three times. I cany make myself add again! Are you in on PAVP?
B
I am in for about $700.00 so far but I am thinking about buying a few more thousand worth I am just waiting for the sweet spot.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Learning:
Ive gotten to the point where I'm not even adding for a profit in PAVP. I want to add at this current PPS for get as many shares as possible in CSJJ! I dont understand why more people wouldnt do that!
B
Quite simply out of fear that their addition will only lose money as PAVP's pps drops. Also, who knows what the value of CSJJ will be by the time we get shares. It could be next to nothing!! BE wary
I'm guessing by your name that you are new to stocks - or at least the pennies. Why would you care about shares in CSJJ when mgt. can't even straighten out what they alreeady have/own? The way this thing has tanked since MArch 9 - who knows if we'll even have any money left here on April 9th. Over a BILION shares out now - from 36 million last month. I'm just hoping to be ABLE to get out of this think with the shirt on my back soon........
Good Luck, and BE CAREFUL - This is a Pink Sheet stock - the lowest of the low. Mngt. had no scrupples - nor do they have to. Under the law - they don't have to tell us much.......
You mean Just Learning and Real Person??? (The 2 names you answer to too)
C'mon - You SAID cheer you up! That's all I've got........... I'm right there with you. And on his past - what's the saying? A Leopard doesn't change his spots - or a Zebra doesn't lose his stripes.
If he does scam us - because this is Pinkyland - Andrea will probably never wear stripes.......
Good luck to us all,
Steve
I wanna know
Has anybody been able to but this puupy below .0045 or
sell it at .005???????
[This message has been edited by realperson (edited March 29, 2004).]
Do I still need to hold. I can atleast min the loss further. Any suggestion, I appericiate it.
God bless us all.
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Originally posted by roger7485:
CSJJ at .50, PAVP at .0047 NO BRAINER PEOPLE AUTOMATIC DOUBLE.
I'M PSYCHED!!
salemm.
No one wants to lose - but if you can't affort to wait it out - and you can't afford to lose every penny - you shouldn't be here. This is GAMBLING - even though many of us consider it "Educated Gambling". I don't mean that fresh - and I'm as pis_ed to be down so much like everyone else - but that's part of the game. It COULD pop to .02 or more on name/symbol change and we'll be a lot happier then, imo. I don't think that will happen - not that high - because they've beat us down so low already. But we CAN hope.........so we will!
[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 29, 2004).]
From the transfer agent, O/S is now 1,059,739,000, A/S has been raised to 5 billion.
salemm.
Bill Little, 281-339-2451. They already have a new cusip number and the name change has officially changed and the transfer agent has received the paperwork from Nevada. Ask him about the name/symbol/cusip change, he said Friday is a good possibility.
salemm.
I had a sell order in for XRYM and only 40 bucks worth sold. so I get to pay full commission for a couple shares hmmmmm
Do most use all or nothing???????
Dave
quote:
Originally posted by realperson:
Cool
Got home from the Doc's and the market was closed and my order for 200,000 shares of PAVP filled entirly @ .0042
Im listening to Slim on this. If Im not selling at a loss it makes sense to buy more.
Makes sense to me??I had a sell order in for XRYM and only 40 bucks worth sold. so I get to pay full commission for a couple shares hmmmmm
Do most use all or nothing???????
Dave
2.7mil holding last buy in .0044 .0052 .0053 come on go up NOW!!!!!!!!!!! lol
t
THIS chart is starting to look GOOD? Down, Down Down and 6 days in a row of red? You must see something that I don't see. One item doesn't make a difference. Not here.
Take a look:
http://fallond.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=stocks&action=display&num=1077676670
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by stock_82:
[B]One thing though, is that the chart is starting to look good.
[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 30, 2004).]
Here's a little good news:
At least we didn't buy WNMI Friday at .048 (We couldn't anyway - Andrea has all our money).
We didn't buy IBZT at .08, or AGIS at .73, or NEOM at .43, or even UVCL at .17
THOSE poor peope got screwed worse than us..... Not that we feel any better.....
I'd say we HAVE to hold til after the name/symbol change and or April 9th..... The free shares I couldn't give a damn about - they'll be as useless as PAVP by the time we'd ever get them - IF we ever get them....
Good luck to all of us.....We're at .0036 now and falling..
quote:
Originally posted by Special J:
I can't believe this anymore. I am going to shoot myself. Can someone please post level 2 on where the MMs currently are showing support?
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Originally posted by stock_82:
HOLY CRAP DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT??
quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
you cant let your emotions get in the way while playing pinks~
congradulation this baby finally pop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ed
[This message has been edited by salemm (edited March 30, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by darogo:
man this stock has GOT to be a scam. i've never seen such dropping on good news in all my life. i haven't even looked at this board in days. down down down everyday. i just consider my money gone at this point. in @ .01 and i thought i was doing good. positive pr, new shell, blah blah blah. i'm not selling now. might as well wait for the bankrupcy....
scottrader is showing this stock at .037 is anyone else seeing this?
[This message has been edited by will (edited March 30, 2004).]
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Originally posted by salemm:
I nominate Will to fly/drive over to Mr. Cortellazzi's house, ring the doorbell around 3AM and really spaz-out, right there as Mr. Cortellazzi opens the door. He can ask all the pertinent questions, threaten him with death by mob of abnormal shareholders if he lies, and come back and report to us!
Waddayasay??
salemm.
anyone here buy any????????
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Big brownie points to anyone who can answer this question:
Why are people paying 36 cents for CSJJ if you can buy 100 shares of PAVP for the same amount of money and get 1 share of CSJJ for free?
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Big brownie points to anyone who can answer this question:
Why are people paying 36 cents for CSJJ if you can buy 100 shares of PAVP for the same amount of money and get 1 share of CSJJ for free?
salemm.
salemm, i think I know the answer. It is because by the time the shares are accounted for, on apr 9, expect to see a forward spilt of some magnitude. The float on CSJJ is just to low to really be viable. So, essentially, you wont be getting the value that you would now
well here ya go when you e-mail him i think 20 is the number you get a response LOL
George,
This is definitely NOT the option that we are planning. PAVP shareholders will receive FREE shares of CSJJ. It is not an exchange of shares but a distribution of them. PAVP shareholders' positions will remain unchanged. The company is working hard at securing the lease at St. Hubert and also merging in a viable tech company into CSJJ. The name change will be announced as soon as it is finalized. Facts will show all investors that we are a legitimate operation and are working to increase shareholder value.
Regards,
George
Director M&A, PAVP
----- Original Message -----
From: GEOLY34@aol.com
To: georgeabi@rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: is this an option you are planning??
"IN My Opinion.. the CEO Andrea has purchased the shell with the money he received when he sold additional shares once the stock reach 1.5 - 2.4 cents.. what he has done is create a hidden reverse split 1 share for 100 of the new shell.. all valuable not leagal assets will go ito the new company which will have value... Intially but you can not sell until he issues you the shares which can take 6 months.. the old PAVP will return to a .0001 value"
please tell me that we will recieve1 for 1 in the new shell!
For anyone that is interested, I have actually been sitting here this morning keeping a running total of buys and sells as they show up on my "last sale" function through Ameritrade (I know it's not completely accurate, but probably close).
As of 12:49 est the tally goes as follows:
Buys = 14,792,300
Sells = 24,553,607
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Total = 39,345,907
[This message has been edited by The Hippo (edited March 30, 2004).]
fuc* fuc* the police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4.2mil holding last buy in's at .0035 & .0037 i'm done
mm's are dicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blood suckers overall vermin
looking at the intraday chart there was a very strong bottom showing around .0034 hope it holds!!!!!!!!!!
i had 20mil qbid NOT ANY MORE.... LOL nice ride from .0003
let the good times roll ahead
why would he be on the bid
buying into the weakness MAYBE!
the rebound should be sick I HOPE
Good luck and God bless everyone
http://eet.com/pressreleases/prnewswire/129193
quote:
Originally posted by tasharruf:
oh well tooooo late,
I got in at .0036.
I hope it wont be a disaster
allways buy when there is gloom and doom bull**** in the air!!!!! lol
ProActive Computer Services, Inc. Seeks Share Buyback - CEO; Architectural Drawings To Be Posted on Corporate Website
Business Wire - March 31, 2004 11:47
HOUSTON, Mar 31, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc. (PAVP: Pink Sheets) will launch a share buyback program as early as next week, Chief Executive Andrea Cortellazzi said on Wednesday. The company will seek to repurchase its shares due to management's belief that the price is far below other real estate development companies on a projected price-to-cash-flow basis. PAVP projects revenues from operations to reach approximately $3.5M by the end of 2004. This is forecast to be generated, following the construction of the hangar and adjoining structure, from leasing contracts signed with tenants and the fuel farm to be installed at St. Hubert airport.
PAVP is pleased to announce that the architectural drawings of the hangar and proposed modernization of St. Hubert airport will be posted on CortDev's new corporate website, which will be released by the end of the week. PAVP has received approval for the name change to CortDev Inc. from the State of Nevada. According to the Transfer Agent, Bill Little, the company is awaiting the issuance of the new trading symbol by NASDAQ to complete the process. The company expects to receive it any day now.
PAVP is committed to attaining OTC Bulletin Board status and will use its recently acquired OTC shell to expedite the process. The shell will acquire PAVP, which will help to render it fully-reporting and eligible to trade on the OTC. Shareholders of PAVP will not be affected as they will retain all their shares and the capital structure of the company will remain unchanged. There will be no reverse split of PAVP shares.
Finally, Chief Executive Andrea Cortellazzi would like to take this opportunity to assure all shareholders that the company is doing all it can to build a viable and profitable business while at the same time maximizing shareholder value. Andrea stated: "While the company has met many challenges in getting the St. Hubert airport project off the ground, we are definitely close to reaching our goals. Financing has been sourced and all that is left is to secure the lease on the property, which should be done in short order. We have made tremendous progress over the past three months with respect to the CortDev project and we expect this to pay off for shareholders in the near future."
PAVP has been in negotiations for the past three weeks to acquire three privately-held companies. This information will be released as soon as a letter of intent is signed with any of these parties.
For further information please contact Investor Relations at (973) 351-3868
Forward-Looking Statements
Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 973-351-3868. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE: ProActive Computer Services Inc
Investor Relations:
Taylor Capitol, Inc.
Stephen Taylor, 973-351-3868
STEPHTAYL9@AOL.COM www.IPOmovers.com
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WHO'S IN THE MONEY WITH 4.2MIL me !!!!!!
I've never SEEN L2 jump around this much and this fast before!
[This message has been edited by will (edited March 31, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
well i'm doing my part 161,000 at .0036 for a grand total of 4,380,000 shares all below .0053allways buy when there is gloom and doom bull**** in the air!!!!! lol
I HOPE YOU HELD OR ADDED TO YOU POSITION!!!!!!
go baby go,
out of the red and into the BLACK
t
GLTA
Raja
quote:
Originally posted by realperson:
I sold 1/2 my PAVP and added to my LBTT
I still think PAVP will run a bit but I need a sure thing on a higher % of my portfolio
LBTT is getting ready to explode over the next two weeks
Dave
Again Dave also answers to the name
STUPID