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It's a game now. People say "this thing tanks every PR they release", so people sell, or expect the price to go down. If feel people are secretly wanting this to happen, just to confirm their statements or thoughts!! There is NOTHING negative confirmed out there for this company. I can't find any anyway! Only overwhelmingly positive news, over and over. What can explain the declining pps then? Nothing NATURAL, that's for sure... and unnatural things just don't last... eventually, it'll toe the line just like every other company listed out there, and follow a nice predictable pattern of rising on good news. salemm.
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Besides the fact that they are not forthcoming to those with a serious position in PAVP, it is drawing everyone's attention to the point of mezmorizing us, and causing eveyone to neglect real opportunity. I for one, am not going to open this thread for a couple of hours, and concentrate my time on something of value. No one can figure this, it's insanity to get wrapped around the axle on this thing for the little I have invested. I sincerely hope it turns around for you serious holders.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by salemm: There is NOTHING negative confirmed out there for this company. I can't find any anyway!
Salemm: How's this for negative:
How they could put out a PR with a website in it that they didn't even own is beyond me, and later call it a mistake.
How they could take another company's product, Fx Lock; and put it on the website of a co. we don't even KNOW if they even own or not - and LATER say it was 'miscommunication' borders on outright fraud.
They hire a PR lady and fire her a week later (or she got disgusted and quit)
It's incredible.......
We're at .0052 now and I have lost so much here now I can't think straight....
Tell me 1 good positive thing about this POS co? They are a paper mill for shares - to make THEMSELVES millions as they steal from us, imho.
I HOPE this is just the idiot MMs covering for symbol change run-up, but EVEN if I come out of this whole - or with a HUGE profit - I will NOT feel good about this experience with this stock.....
Steve
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I agree with you Love The Market. This is BS. Something smells BAD! dz Posted this earlier this morning.
quote:Originally posted by denzen: Hey guys I hate to bring this up but,the dividend shares will be distributed to shareholders of record as of April 9th. They have NOT stated the date that they will actually distribute the shares.That could be months away. Someone that has time might want to call and find out what the time frame is for distribution of the dividend.
This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny. I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.
dz
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quote:Originally posted by will: Fortunately, I did not risk much, and I got in at .0075 . I said I would buy more at .005, and average down, but man, this thing is looking like a rat hole. Someone talk me into or out of it . LOL
I may miss the big run back up to .008 but, I won't buy til there's a pattern to the chart. Just my opinion. bought @.0083 held a week and sold @.0083. During that time I missed 2 chances to sell over .01. The thing that worried me the evening it tanked was that that morning it went down and hit .0079. To me that was a sell signal.The only thing I based that on was chart support levels and I felt that the bears were winning. I could have easily been wrong but the important thing was that I had a chart to work with. At this point (for me) there's just no way of knowing where its headed in the short term. I would love to get back in as I feel this stock could run hard and fast from these levels but, I'm cautious here. I'm still new and by no means a daytrader. I look for good solid entry points with easy to read resistance and support levels of companies that seem solid. So take this with a grain of salt from a newbie. Hope it helps.
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Man I bought at 0.006 to average down ,now after the work I c 0.005. What is happening with this stock. Is it day time stealing. This company CEO is having personal ATM machine to steal our money.
God please save us all.
I hate this stock. ... I hate it
quote:Originally posted by buyrsell: I may miss the big run back up to .008 but, I won't buy til there's a pattern to the chart. Just my opinion. bought @.0083 held a week and sold @.0083. During that time I missed 2 chances to sell over .01. The thing that worried me the evening it tanked was that that morning it went down and hit .0079. To me that was a sell signal.The only thing I based that on was chart support levels and I felt that the bears were winning. I could have easily been wrong but the important thing was that I had a chart to work with. At this point (for me) there's just no way of knowing where its headed in the short term. I would love to get back in as I feel this stock could run hard and fast from these levels but, I'm cautious here. I'm still new and by no means a daytrader. I look for good solid entry points with easy to read resistance and support levels of companies that seem solid. So take this with a grain of salt from a newbie. Hope it helps.
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P.S. made exception for Qbid based on the facts for long term and bought in after the first big run to .oo14
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quote:Originally posted by penny_stock: Man I bought at 0.006 to average down ,now after the work I c 0.005. What is happening with this stock. Is it day time stealing. This company CEO is having personal ATM machine to steal our money.
God please save us all.
I hate this stock. ... I hate it
The CEO and major investors probably are losing on paper much more than anyone. Hopefully!
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Why would you think CEO or company is stealing our money??? That simply CANNOT happen... as in "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE". There is no method that allows a company to magically lower the pps and get dollars out of it, in their hands. Management owns BIG TIME shares in this. They are LOSING MILLIONS NOW!! Beral Inc (MAJOR investor)must buy at 10 cents... how do you think they feel? They're probably screaming on the phone right now! It's not the company. It's something else. I don't know what, exactly. But when this turns around and facts are confirmed by history, please come back here so we can all laugh at our nervous-ninny-ness! In the meantime, please lend me money so that I may buy more shares! Please? salemm.
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Oh my gosh I just got here The whole Market is in the Tank What the Heck to do. Im gonna Hold it If it does not gap up a bit by close Im selling Half first thang tommorow. Dave Dissapointed I guess you can only sell now if you believe it wont go back pass this point in the next Month HMMMMMMM
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quote:Originally posted by penny_stock: Does anyone have any clue , why this happens?
I would say news that came was dealing with events that won't be translated into gross/profit margins in time to suit many large shareholders who felt the stock was trading at a premium . Then the chart support disentegrated and caused a panic selloff. That's my best guess because I don't know about shorts and such. I do feel like this stock has the potential to rise though because of the free shares and all. I hope it does. I know how it feels. I tied up 5 grand in nokia and waited and waited and waited while other stocks ran like hell. I figure I lost $600 on the trade and didn't make a couple thousand because I was in the wrong stock. Faith in Nok cost me a bundle.
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I have over 5 million shares invested in this, 85% of my portfolio. I've been holding since, and I wont be intimidated by all the panic selling just so some MM will eat it up. The symbol change was expected sooner, but because its in Nevada, there are some delays, which will be clarified on the press release. This is definately one to buy back or hold on tight.. dont let the Mms shake ya off before the symbol change!
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Lunch break...whooo...things are not going our way today.
I read everything again...and all your opinions and here's what I think. THey needed money to buy the Shell co. and to continue in their effort of opening their offices, etc... So, they have been selling stocks for cash for the last few weeks. That's the only reasonable explanation I can find right now for that price drop. I don't believe anymore that shorting is responsible because of the symbol change that was announce...the MM didn't move an inch monday.
ANyway, if it's true and if they use the money wisely to get some real business going, I will get my money back...
I prefer to have faith in human kind. Makes my day better.
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well, it finally seems to be slowly recovering (at .0055 now). I don't know about the rest of you, but if this gets back to the .009 range, where I bought it, I'm out. In my opinion, the last PR (about CSJJ), somewhat proved to me that this is in fact a real company, not a scam, however, the news in no way clarified when investors will benefit. I believe that until a date is set when the free shares will be delivered, and the symbol change will take place, we have no hope of increasing PPS value. Just my opinion
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with the name change coming out and all this good news this stock seems like it would do well. with the april 1st naked shorting deadline coming up i think we are in a good spot, but im wondering if another of these micros will benefit more from april 1st than this one, maybe we should be in that IMO. anyone else have anything on the april 1st thing?
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Guys. Wait for the ticker. Thats all you have to do. Dont watch if you cant. Wait for the ticker. I tried to add another 1.8 million at .005 but my stupid check money isnt valid for non marginable securities. I had the bottom pegged too. Damn.
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Check out the intraday charts and compare the drastic drop times with PR release times. This morning approx. 10:00 PR release, PAVP starts to drop; Yesterday afternoon after PAVP was recovering, drops again after PR is released in the afternoon. Check the charts...it's pretty obvious. I'm not saying I'm goig to sell. I think it is a REAL company and after the name/symbol changes, the shorting will be over. Just try to get your cost average as low as possible.
quote:Originally posted by cyberrat67: The price didn't drop after the PR...I agree that it's frustrating, but I'm still in long term...I don't see any reason to sell right now. The MMs are plaiyng with us
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Tried to buy more at .0050... waited too long and it rose to 0055; moved my bid to that... it moved to 0060; moved my bid and finally filled at .0060. Averaging close to 1.5 million shares at .0077 pps... and don't forget how many free shares that gets me!! salemm.
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Roger, I'm not bashing you or anything, and please dont take it personal. But you have been buying and talking this stock up when it was in the 7 and 8 range, and it did nothing but drop. i saw your post in the "hot stocks for all" forum and you were encouraging more buys. i dont understand why you push this stock, and when you do, it drops? B
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Ok guys, I can't handle all this bad news today...CSJJ down .15, PAVP down, I'm going to take a break and hopefully when I check back in a few days, it will be better. Peace out...
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Sometimes its just best to walk away. I am not even going to look at PAVP for a week or two.
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I did not expect this stock to get hammered as hard as it has been. The PR that will move this stock is not yet out. Until the ticker change the MM will do everything they can to get cheaper shares. I'm not asking you to buy more shares. I'm just saying that once the ticker is released we will have a day with 200 million+ volume and be up over 100%.
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I can't believe I sold another stock yesterday to average down in this garbage. I SHOULD have bought WMNI - the PAris Hilton modeling stock.
Yesterday, that stock opened at .003 and is now .023 (went up 300% yesterday and just about 100% today).
All we did was go down , down and down some more. I'm even getting killed AGAIN after averaging down to .011 by getting more at .0069 yesterday. Talk about putting good money after bad..... Sorry I'm ranting - this just pzzz's me off - that this is sooo manipulated. It's has to be MMs covering or Andrea dumping more shares - what sane person would dump before symbol change??
Good luck - time to get away from computer for a while...
Steve
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OK, I chilled for a few hours. I did watch the price though, so I cheated. I was about to buy more at .005 but those .004's scared me to death. This thing doesn't know a bottom. I asked yesterday if any one ever experienced this before, and if so, what could be anticipated. I would bet my hat, ass and gloves, no one would have predicted this. so, that being said, I think I will just wait and watch. I simply do not know what to do, or what to expect from this stock.
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quote:Originally posted by will: OK, I chilled for a few hours. I did watch the price though, so I cheated. I was about to buy more at .005 but those .004's scared me to death. This thing doesn't know a bottom. I asked yesterday if any one ever experienced this before, and if so, what could be anticipated. I would bet my hat, ass and gloves, no one would have predicted this. so, that being said, I think I will just wait and watch. I simply do not know what to do, or what to expect from this stock.
you are right, we cant know what to expect, ONLY becasue this stock is being manipulated. (I HAVE NO CLUE by whom, but there is clearly manipulation). The only reason I hold is becasue all of this day to day crap happens, but stocks MUST correct themselves. So, I wait and see!
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Well, now I am consdering CSJJ. LOL It might be the real play here? Opinions welcome!
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