quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Not too worried about my identity being stolen. I am a dog that has bite. (or should I say byte)
I thought that too until someone got a hold of my debit/check card info last week and spent 10k at coach.com......
It does hurt when they hit you that way. I have seen a good deal of identity fraud info in my career.
What I can say is that the crooks are traceable. It is difficult but if you know what to ask for and how to ask for it. You can find them and if by any luck they are still or ever plan on being in this country again. You can get them. We had LAPD chasing this guy all over town a couple of months ago. Eventually, even he had his door broken down.
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Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
Thats very true IMO. Rufus either has everything he says he has or he REALLY believes that he does. And i dont believe he is stupid so im counting on him having what he says he has.
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quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
I totally agree Tax, look at a POS like SLJB and see what that CEO did to his investors, then he split. Rufus took back control, and that to me says he has nothing to hide. Say what you want about Rufus, but he does not have a death wish... JMHO
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I have spent some time trying to continue researching CSHD connections and really digging into them. There is some really interesting stuff related to the potential value of the Ecowood project in Brazil, as well as the value of sequestered land in all of South America, in general.
Combine the value of pollution credits with the ability to draw down on the value of the future revenue for these credits (asset back securities - CSHD) and the possibilities are simply staggering. An entire new market is unfolding as we speak and CSHD is positioned to help underdeveloped and cash-poor countries get cash out of those newly recognized assets.
How big could this get? Here is some literature from a hedge fund prospectus (anyone recognize the exchange from a previous discussion):
"A carbon exchange is like a stock exchange for pollution. The idea of trading in greenhouse gases has its roots in the Kyoto Protocol. This is the international treaty to reduce levels of gases that trap heat and are linked to climate change.
The Chicago Climate Exchange is known as the CCX. It provides a market for businesses to trade on the release and capture of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide.
Market forces drive the price of the credits. The credits are called Carbon Financial Instruments. Each credit is equal to one hundred metric tons of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas.
By this December, members of the CCX are supposed to have reduced their emissions four percent below levels in a baseline period. That period is nineteen ninety-eight to two thousand one. A six percent reduction is the target for two thousand ten.
The CCX was the first carbon exchange when it opened in two thousand three. Today it is the only exchange of its kind in North America. In Europe, big producers of greenhouse gases are required to take part in emissions trading. The CCX owns the European Climate Exchange, in the Netherlands.
No one is required to take part in the Chicago Climate Exchange. But those who do are legally required to observe their emission agreements and the rules of the exchange.
Richard Sandor started the CCX. He helped develop the financial futures market for the Chicago Board of Trade. Mister Sandor has said he thinks the market for carbon credits could one day be larger than the market for oil."
Sounds like an easy sell to me. Hey Country A, want to make a ton of cash right now for something you did not even no you had until recently, and do not want to deal with anyway? Thought so. Sign here please.
This is all speculation relative to CSHD but the idea and possibility is entirely sound. Someone is going to do it in short order.
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Humble, very nice post and IMO a nice explaination into the heart and soul of Ecowood. The carbon credits have never received enough attention if you ask me.
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ahhh,... About that ADOT comment... Now I don't know the DD on it but if you look at what happened the last time this indicator passed the neutral line in the WEEKLY chart, you will see it is about to possibly do it again...
Not sticking up for ADOT's management (don't care), but it's chart is screaming that it's gonna blow again... That's what I like about flipping, you don't have to care about all that CEO BS.
"sorry" -but even P.O.S.'s have runs I flipped CMKX, that was a REAL POS!!! LOL ~
Yes, I do have a small position in ADOT. I told people who wanted a list of stocks to watch, right when to buy a HIGH RISK stock like this so you don't have to wait forever and a day...
Same way PYPR started out at the beginning of the year ~ (take a look!)
btw... I think 3 of my pic's went double digits today, 30, 40 and 50% I think... and some single digit gainers and some still accumulating...
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If any one of you are directly associated with the company and/or has direct contact w/ Rufus, there is a perfect place to hold a meeting in Washington, DC. Any business can rent meeting spaces at the National Press Club -- I know because I have set up several meetings and press conferences there in my corporate life.
This will assure that there will be no screw ups with the video and teleconference and you can even invite the financial press because they all have offices in DC. The National Press Club is set up to handle everything involved in this type of meeting.
If this is on the level and not a scam, let's all be in agreement that we have a right:
1. To know the name of the law firm immediately.
2. To know the exact location where the meeting will be held at least two weeks prior to the meeting. Contract in hand.
3. That we will not accept a phony recommendation from a phony law firm advising Rufus not to hold the meeting w/video and teleconferencing.
4. That we will not accept phony excuses that only a handful of selected stockholders who will be sworn to phony gag orders be allowed on the video and teleconferences, or that last minute technical difficulties prevented the conferencing.
Now some of you can nit-pick the crap out of numbers 3 & 4 all you like, but the rest makes perfect sense.
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quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Heck Rhyz if you are refering to Rufus, you have to know he is too easy of a target. One of the main reasons I think he is legit is by the way he has made every one of his crazy moves sooo transparent.
Try finding out information on a the CEO of a POS company like ADOT and you will see the difference. I honestly feel those guys file SEC docs from some distant beach, and the proper con is to place your fictitious company on a military base where noone can DD it properly. Hiding in plain sight is either not done, or stupid IMO.
No it wasn't directed at Rufus, I admire his him abit, quite ballsy. But I couldn't pass up on the statement. It was just a generalized statement concerning pennies in general.
I'm in on this stock and hope the outcome is good. I dont have alot in on it personally but I see alot of people that really put forth alot of money on it without doing any DD at all and just throwing the money at the hype. This was just a pure spec play for me with some spare cash.
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Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. ---------------------------------------------
Well, these boys are wrong in one respect. I worked in the natural gas industry for over 25 years, and I can tell you for a fact that methane is not a pollutant. Methane is cleanest form of carbon based fuels on this earth, burns clean with no pollution.
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Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
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quote:Originally posted by wv1973: orginally posted by humble:
Six different polluting gases are traded on the CCX. These include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. ---------------------------------------------
Well, these boys are wrong in one respect. I worked in the natural gas industry for over 25 years, and I can tell you for a fact that methane is not a pollutant. Methane is cleanest form of carbon based fuels on this earth, burns clean with no pollution.
Methane is a greenhouse gas and has its effect on the ozone.
And just cuz i was curious i found this....
"Carbon dioxide has a global warming potential (GWP) of 1 (over 100 years). Although less methane is emitted into the environment the global warming potential of methane is 21 times that of carbon dioxide (over 100 years)."
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
Yea, some of us saw the carbon credits coming before we saw Rufus coming. But, apparently FHAL couldnt pull it off so Rufus and his Merry bunch jumped in and hooked us up. Or somethin'
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Methane concentrations graph Computer models showing the amount of methane (parts per million by volume) at the surface (top) and in the stratosphere (bottom).Methane in the Earth's atmosphere is an important greenhouse gas with a Global warming potential of 23 over a 100 year period. Its concentration has increased by about 150% since 1750 and it accounts for 20% of the total radiative forcing from all of the long-lived and globally mixed greenhouse gases.[2]
The average concentration of methane at the Earth's surface in 1998 was 1,745 ppb.[3] Its concentration is higher in the northern hemisphere as most sources (both natural and human) are larger. The concentrations vary seasonally with a minimum in the late summer.
Methane is created near the surface, and it is carried into the stratosphere by rising air in the tropics. Uncontrolled build-up of methane in Earth's atmosphere is naturally checked—although human influence can upset this natural regulation—by methane's reaction with a molecule known as the hydroxyl radical, a hydrogen-oxygen molecule formed when single oxygen atoms react with water vapor.
Early in the Earth's history—about 3.5 billion years ago—there was 1,000 times as much methane in the atmosphere as there is now. The earliest methane was released into the atmosphere by volcanic activity. During this time, Earth's earliest life appeared. These first, ancient bacteria added to the methane concentration by converting hydrogen and carbon dioxide into methane and water. Oxygen did not become a major part of the atmosphere until photosynthetic organisms evolved later in Earth's history. With no oxygen, methane stayed in the atmosphere longer and at higher concentrations than it does today.
BUT -- Let's have some reaction to the National Press Club idea and forget about gas -- unless you ate beans.
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quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
Rufus is the bonds guy. His focus should be insuring that the company is properly set up with bond backing and then turn the reins over to a newly appointed CEO, one that would be better adapted to funding JV's. If I'm not mistaken, Rufus has stated that he tends to retire once CVSU is underway with the backing of the bonds. - IMO
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On the same line as Carbon Credits I recently learned that here in Florida (don't know about anywhere else) there is a program similar to Carbon Credits but it is for Solar energy. It's totally feasable to put solar panels on my roof and the energy I create/save can be sold in the form of Solar credits. I may have the term incorrect but from my understanding this is already happenning. And the exchange is in Chicago.
I think the carbon credits can be HUGE also and it's nice to know that I never heard of them before until CSHD and M. Alexander was in the press release a few months ago. I went digging on the WWW and think we may really have something here with the Carbon Credits.
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I don't know where to post this but here goes. What ever become of the person or person's that was talking about a stock pickers group or contest. It was on the form in Oct. almost everyday. I think the talk was to start the first of Nov. Was this all B___ S___? I am having trouble deciding who is the real deal on this form. If anybody knows anything I will be waiting for your post. THANKS
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quote:Originally posted by harry06: I don't know where to post this but here goes. What ever become of the person or person's that was talking about a stock pickers group or contest. It was on the form in Oct. almost everyday. I think the talk was to start the first of Nov. Was this all B___ S___? I am having trouble deciding who is the real deal on this form. If anybody knows anything I will be waiting for your post. THANKS
You know, I think I saw something like a $1000 challenge somewhere... (looking)
[edit] I bet it was in the .11 and up forum, looks like that forum gets cleaned up periodically and if there was no recent interest in the thread it would have been pruned.
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quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: Humble, you have extreme respect from me as a very valuable poster on this board. I think your carbon credit/ecowood post is fantastic!!! Don't take this personal. I do completely agree. Potential projects like this one is why so many bought into FHAL in the first place months ago. There is no doubt there is tremondous value potential in CSHD in the future.
However, I also feel that it is very irrelavent at this point. We haven't funded a single JV yet. Until Rufus moves his focus from "getting shorty" and secret committees to actually running his business there will be no JV's, ecowood, moon travel, spaceships. If he can't take care of proving bond ownership and avoiding the situations he is now in, then his ability to move foward with anything else is questionable. IMO he must run his company and move beyond the SEC with timely filings, meeting deadlines, etc.
I had to run earlier but the lead in about the carbon credits really had more to do with the issue of the bonds and bond ownership than I was able to discuss.
It is entirely possible that the great question about why someone would "give" those monsterous bonds to CVSU rests in the potential to turn a new asset and relatively new market into immediate payback for the owners of those credits.
Carbon credits might be tradeable and valuable but they are only allotted year over year, meaning that there might be a ton of long term revenue but it will take time to recognize that income. Segue to someone like Rufus and CVSU who is an expert in asset backed securites and can offer a way to make that long term revenue work for the owners in a much shorter time frame. It might work something like this:
A bond is issued with the backing being the long term revenue stream of the carbon credits. The bond is hypothecated as needed to generate investment capitol. The JV money can bring an immediate return which will be split 50/50 between the bond owners and CVSU. Everyone wins, we get easy money and the owners of the sequestered land get to leverage their credits. Remember that so much of the really valuable pollution absorbing land is in places that are desperate for money.
Now I am no expert in bonds but I do know that if there is an emerging market that could provide an asset on my books that I never counted on I might be wiling to split some of the bounty with the middle man that could make this happen.
All of that being said, I do agree that some of our troubles could have been avoided. But looking to the future I am simply trying to think of how this great mystery could have a foundation in real possibilities.
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: ahhh,... About that ADOT comment... Now I don't know the DD on it but if you look at what happened the last time this indicator passed the neutral line in the WEEKLY chart, you will see it is about to possibly do it again...
Not sticking up for ADOT's management (don't care), but it's chart is screaming that it's gonna blow again... That's what I like about flipping, you don't have to care about all that CEO BS.
Yeah well my last 48K shares of ADOT show a purchase price of $0.0047... Soooo...
I think I will still rate it a scam. LOL! Current price $0.0003 HA! I thought it was a great deal when I bought it. Sometimes you just don't get out in time.
With ADOT my wife finally had to step in and send me to gamblers annonomous. She said "No more money in ADOT! It was like I was averaging down every two weeks. I kept saying, "Honey you don't understand for the same amount I can triple the amount of shares we have. Eventually, I didn't even believe it I was just adding shares. HA HA!! OK!
ADOT is my "White Whale"! There I said it! I plan on making a crap load of money on CSHD and I am putting it all into ADOT so I can buy the controlling amount shares and then making myself a stupid 30 foot LCD Billboard to put in my living room so I can watch Bobby Knight slap college players at three times life!!!
OK... excuse me there the bad thoughts are gone.
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I was really surprised by the strength of the pps with the volume we had today. I thought for sure we'd be at my next buy in point today (under $.10).
This place is looking up. I wouldn't have put all of the bad on "thesource", but things seem so much better with him gone.
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: whats funny is that we close green the day after a filing was supposed to be out.
But how will this last? And when will there be a turn around? At what point do I get out and try to salvage some money out of this sinking ship? And what do I have left to believe in?
A CEO that was fired. His replacement quit. Us stuck on the grey sheets. No MM's want to file the necessary paperwork to quote us. A CEO that gives BBQ's instead of going into coart. Rapidly declining share prices. Promises of great things to come. A mysterious group of anonymous posters telling us that everything is going to work out. Failure to file necessary quarterly and yearly forms, sometimes not even on time. Statements saying that if paperwork was filed, the company would be seized. Shareholder committees praying for strength in the future battles.
All of those things make me question my believes in this stock. I have been long since July, longer than most here, and have never said a bad word about this stock. I held when it went over 3 bucks, thinking that it was going to do better than that. I believed that I was going to get 6 shares for ever 1 that I held October 16th. I should have gotten money out, played with free shares, covered my capitol. I didn't because I believed in this company.
There is very little right now that could make believe in this company anymore. I hate to say that, because that means that this whole thing was a scam. As St. Matt said that he looked into Rufus's eyes and believed him. I never got that opportunity. But I think that there are a lot of people who wished that they could have done that. I think that Rufus wanted to something good, but got blinded by all of the things he wanted to accomplish. Everyone else had the same things happen to them. Some got in early, and aren't hurting yet. Others got in late, and have lost almost everything. But everyone still believes.
Let me take that back. Almost everyone still believes.
I think I lost my beliefs this week. I may be wrong, and everything WILL work out as promised, but I really don't see that happening. Chalk it up to experience, and put it towards the next trade. I will be smarter, but it sure cost me a lot of money that I could have otherwise have had right now.
Unless I am wrong, which I would love to have someone point out to me. Please don't call me a basher. I am just someone who is a little short on faith on this stock right now.
-------------------- Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.
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Look at the volume in the daily chart building lately, and look at the lower Weekly chart and what happens when that (PPO) MACD line crosses the neutral line line Look what happened last time!
You might be in for a big surprise coming up here. Won't be quick, but it does look like it's coming ~
Current price is between .0002 - 3 and money flow is positive and growing in strentgh...
POS or not, looks like the boats loading up, it really does! This is where PYPR was 10-11 months ago (not saying it'll get to .008), but it does look like something will happen IMO...
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: At what point do I get out and try to salvage some money out of this sinking ship?
Yesterday Man! What were you waiting for? Sorry ~
You sound like you are really uncomfortable. I would not like to be in your shoes.
I for one don't want to see anyone to be in over their head in this. We have always maintained that you should not trade money that makes you uncomfortable and always when possible protect your capital.
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I chalked it up as a loss, moved on and played others that made me nearly as much money as i lost here at CSHD. I still hold my CSHD shares in case a miracle happens.
We cant make your decisions for you.. you only have yourself to praise or blame buddy.
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