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I have read everything people posted for the last week or so and have little belief that there are any assets, or anything less then mergers of shell compaines (hate to call them companies)seemingly to screen the actual situation. But, I am a novice.
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Now, I'll ask this question -- what is the process and your comeback will be to do my own research. Or I can say I do know the process, I am the expert and you are not -- and your omeback will be prove it. So don't go either place.
There's not a person on this board that doesn't make assumptions things that may or may not be true. What sources are suspect. Past filed SEC documents in Nevada, current sec filings against the company? Those are the only sources where I hold the truths.
You are right about your question of why save the company at this juncture. I guess we'll wait and see. But over the last few months we have asked the same question of why would rufus say this if it wasn't true, etc. and got some not so good answers.
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Sent you a PM..and also go to the general investing topics for Newbies...lots of info there..but you may need to do some searching around...also allstocks home page has lots of info..GLTY!
quote:Originally posted by Mantux: Hey guys, all the bashing aside. Does anyone have links to where a penny stock newbie can start doing dd on pennies? I have a financial background and work for a online brokerage house. I have only done my DD on big board companies. I only need more info on where to research these. I reviewed the balance sheet in the 10k and the format is correct. The bonds are reported correctly. But we still are not 100% certain that the bonds are legit. I guess we shall know something after Tuesday on that.
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Sorry folks...I can't let anyone who has decided we have invested with a bunch of crooks get away with it.
We will know the answer to that question in due time.
I continue to acknowledge we can be wrong...we can lose this even if we are in the right.
I continue to tell each investor that they must weigh the risk of remaining in this stock for themselves.
I always tell people to make sure they are not able to be left holding the bag. Some here can personally attest to that.
When you are secure in your DD and secure that you have mitigated risk you tend not to follow the ebb and flow of the emotional waves of a stock like this.
Personally, I am not selling. I might even buy more.
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Morty was right, he just said it in a manner to get him banned. No assumptions should ever be taken as fact and put into context -- positive or negative.
Well, if you would reveal your identity (BTW I sent you an PM), then I would know whether I am speaking to the great and all powerful Oz.
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quote:Originally posted by voyager1951: Sceptor, where do I accuse people of being in la-la land? Also, I was only complimenting those on this board for their creative writing ability.
I know this may sound absurd, but the SEC has been around for a very, very long time and probably knows how to do proper research. It also knows how to not show its hole cards. If that is all they had, the SEC, too, would know that is flimsy -- and no I won't buy into an argument that the SEC is in on the conspiracy. Remember, too, there were other allegations other that the bonds.
LOL now who is resorting to the creative writing.
Dude give it a break. If you have questions, fine ask them But dont be coming in here and accusing people of using creative writing (lying or fabricating false information or out right dreaming in la la land - you pick your choice of definitions), and then backpeddling when called on it. It makes you look rediculous at best, and will serve you no purpose if you actually do have a concern. You'll not get a lot of help from those you insult.
Now I will go back to my original stance of take your pumped stock and hit the road. You arent here for information, you simply came to create doubt in this stock and pump one you probably need to dump on others.
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Now, I'll ask this question -- what is the process and your comeback will be to do my own research. Or I can say I do know the process, I am the expert and you are not -- and your omeback will be prove it. So don't go either place.
There's not a person on this board that doesn't make assumptions things that may or may not be true. What sources are suspect. Past filed SEC documents in Nevada, current sec filings against the company? Those are the only sources where I hold the truths.
You are right about your question of why save the company at this juncture. I guess we'll wait and see. But over the last few months we have asked the same question of why would rufus say this if it wasn't true, etc. and got some not so good answers.
And I see you can't answer the critical questions...
You do not know anything about what you read from the SEC do you?...You really can't explain bond financing?...can you.
You have no clue what information is presented by bloomberg do you?
I do...I have demonstrated it time and again. Both here and elsewhere. Many can vouch for that...seems you have none to vouch for you.
You see that is the difference between folks like me and scepter. Our work and our attitude is well known. Yours is not. That is were the weight of words and comments has meaning.
You avoid the question because you cannot explain it.
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Voyager1951 ...... When you first came here, all of us treated you very nice. You are becoming, in my opinion, a true pain in the as*. Sorry but why do you continue to bash this investment? If you don't like it, sell (if you own any shares)at first possible chance. You probably don't agree with most of us here. We must not be as smart as you, so go on to anther site so you can impress others. Most of us have invested in CSHD and would like to see it be successful. You talk like you want it to fail. I think everyone here knows that by now. Good luck and have a nice day.
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we have all been in the same boat with either this stock or another one. all of have lost or gained big here or there. gloating one way or the other never fixed anything. let's try to remember the human-ness of the other posters and how we would feel if we were in their position. the only way we can be winners is if we all stick together and help each other through this. the poster you are bashing today might come up with tomorrow's pick of the week!! we all need good luck out there next week imho.
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quote:Originally posted by 3403: I have read everything people posted for the last week or so and have little belief that there are any assets, or anything less then mergers of shell compaines (hate to call them companies)seemingly to screen the actual situation. But, I am a novice.
Sorry, but your posts are like watching a tennis match,1st.your for CSHD,then against,then for etc. It is okay to be nervous, we all are invested, the longs anyhow, and I am a long. Just not sure if your agenda is to bash or pump or your really not sure. Do you always swing both ways? or just on CSHD? Sorry ,that was a joke and maybe not a good one.GLTY
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LOL. Just a confused NEWBIE trying to make sense with all this. Beginining to realize you can't make sense from what anyone says here. Learned a couple things from Neptune and 10of13. Believe me, if it wasn't cold and rainy I'd be playing tennis, fishing or motorcycling. This is worse then a TV soap.
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quote:Originally posted by 3403: LOL. Just a confused NEWBIE trying to make sense with all this. Beginining to realize you can't make sense from what anyone says here. Learned a couple things from Neptune and 10of13. Believe me, if it wasn't cold and rainy I'd be playing tennis, fishing or motorcycling. This is worse then a TV soap.
You can learn a great deal from 10of13...I am not so sure about Neptune.
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What people don't realize is that we are hoping for the best and yet preparing for the worse. I find it offensive when newcomers arrive on this board and make accusations that we are pumping this sotck. Statements made by many are being presented by good people doing hours of DD. We are in this because we have based our decisions on the DD which has been presented. Please no blame games here. We are all accountable for our own decisions we make in life. Life is a learning process and nobody and I mean NOBODY knows everything.
The big question now deals with the bonds' authenticity. We won't know anything until a judge from a court of law decides this issue. It's that simple.
We have to be prepared because this can be a long drawn out process and the likelihood that CSHD will trade again could take weeks or even months due to bureaucratic bs which is sometomes necessary. I hope we don't trade again until all is right. Therefore, it does no good to bash or pump this and let due process prevail either good or bad. Sit tight because we can't go anywhere anyway.
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quote:Originally posted by portman: And you will all note someone else posted they were nervous about their investment...and I DID NOT go after them...
It is only when there is an attempt at creating FUD that anyone gets a reply.
I am truely sorry, I was not funny! I have been invloved sense this was .08, just don't post much.Portman ,you are one of the ones on this board that I truely trust,sorry, was just trying to relieve stress on a sunday, we have a long 2 days to go.I am not nervous about the outcome , thought he was and then added that stupid joke.
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quote:Originally posted by djg7: What people don't realize is that we are hoping for the best and yet preparing for the worse. I find it offensive when newcomers arrive on this board and make accusations that we are pumping this sotck. Statements made by many are being presented by good people doing hours of DD. We are in this because we have based our decisions on the DD which has been presented. Please no blame games here. We are all accountable for our own decisions we make in life. Life is a learning process and nobody and I mean NOBODY knows everything.
The big question now deals with the bonds' authenticity. We won't know anything until a judge from a court of law decides this issue. It's that simple.
We have to be prepared because this can be a long drawn out process and the likelihood that CSHD will trade again could take weeks or even months due to bureaucratic bs which is sometomes necessary. I hope we don't trade again until all is right. Therefore, it does no good to bash or pump this and let due process prevail either good or bad. Sit tight because we can't go anywhere anyway.
makes you wonder huh? at this point if these bashers think the company is so worthless and that the sec has stuck the fork in it, why are they here?
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As Tut might say, as we walk through the gates of victory and the shorties whitter in the teeth of the cobra, I would like to thank the regulars of this board on the CSHD thread. When I began trading penny's in June of this year and found how limited the information available on most stocks was the best thing that happened to me was stumbling onto allstocks. Not for the "hot tips", but for the endless links to all the information as well as the discussion over each new bit, weather fact, rumour, or speculation.
I have to laugh at all the newcomers, I will call them Bashers, that post negative after negative "thoughts" with no proof or even supporting argument lately. Driven by their saintly concern for ME, they raise endless points in Chapter 12 of the CSHD novel by what they saw on the cover without even reading the old threads.
If they would take the time to read they might see how hard you people work at examining information, both good and bad, where on alot of issuses I get takes on both by people posting their honest opinons. They could start on page 1 and be done by Wed. or Thur. just in time for some intelligintent postings with some facts. There are alot of posters here who I know I can trust, not trust to tell me what stock I should buy or sell, but trust to give me honest opinions and facts, and for that I thank all of you, even repo.
Thanks again to the regulars and all your efforts.
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That's the exact point I'm trying to make trade04. I guess the bashers get their jollies out stirring the pot which you have to admit is entermaining as sick as it may be at times.
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quote:Originally posted by portman: And you will all note someone else posted they were nervous about their investment...and I DID NOT go after them...
It is only when there is an attempt at creating FUD that anyone gets a reply.
I am truely sorry, I was not funny! I have been invloved sense this was .08, just don't post much.Portman ,you are one of the ones on this board that I truely trust,sorry, was just trying to relieve stress on a sunday, we have a long 2 days to go.I am not nervous about the outcome , thought he was and then added that stupid joke.
I do not recall ever being upset with any of your posts.
It is OK to be nervous...it is natural.
There is a way to discuss and vent contrastively.
There is another way that accuses people of fraud who likely do not deserve it.
So I do not accept your apology...none was ever required.
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I just want to know trade, that if we vote for the democrats, won't they raise our taxes and it will be harder for us to make money on the stock market? I want less taxes, and not more, so I would vote Republican. Unless I am somehow wrong, and that the democrats want to lower taxes, have a smaller government, have less entitlements, want to spend less in general, and can win the war on terrorism somewhere away from the middle east. But I could be wrong.
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voyager says: I know this may sound absurd, but the SEC has been around for a very, very long time and probably knows how to do proper research. It also knows how to not show its hole cards. If that is all they had, the SEC, too, would know that is flimsy -- and no I won't buy into an argument that the SEC is in on the conspiracy. Remember, too, there were other allegations other that the bonds.
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what on earth does the SEC need or want a hole card for? the SEC is not playing poker, unless there is something crooked going on within the SEC? the SEC is supposed to be protecting shareholders.. experience tells some of us that is not the case... experience tells me that the SEC is protecting the people who are in the business...
so far? this suspension is just one more reason something stinks in this whole play...
i see 100's of "dirty" companies trading every day...
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Hey folks...Like everyone needs to do their own DD on stocks...So too they need to DD who they vote for.
I sit soundly in one camp and as far away from the other as I can get.
Just be sure to do your DD and VOTE accordingly to what you believe.
And never pick your friends based on political views. Personally, I could not care less what any one's political persuasion, color, sexual orientation or anything else is. JUST VOTE! If you don't VOTE shut your trap and no complaining!
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If CSHD is a fraud it will be shut down and not traded further- this is the protection to the shareholders. We dont need to hear it from someone that claims they interpret the filings to be fraudulent.
Youre doing absolutely no good as it will either trade excellent or be shut down.
You know this. We know this. So whats your motive here?
To make people sell out of fear when it reopens, so you can increase your position/cover is all thats left.
The SEC and the judge is doing the protecting of shareholders. Unless you want to provide condoms for safe sex, you have no business trying to protect us.
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Will you all quit the bickering.
This is stocks, leave politics out of it.
If CSHD is a fraud it will be shut down and not traded further- this is the protection to the shareholders. We dont need to hear it from someone that claims they interpret the filings to be fraudulent.
You re doing absolutely no good as it will either trade excellent or be shut down.
You know this. We know this. So whats your motive here?
To make people sell out of fear when it reopens, so you can increase your position/cover is all thats left.
The SEC and the judge is doing the protecting of shareholders. Unless you want to provide condoms for safe sex, you have no business trying to protect us.
The interesting thing is...shorts and true longs have a distinct interest in the weak hands selling Tuesday. Those only playing this for the fix of the short squeeze want you to hold.
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Yes, if the suspension is lifted I would feel like the company is real and all is well. Maybe even the promises may be fulfilled. That would be great!!!
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quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes, if the suspension is lifted I would feel like the company is real and all is well. Maybe even the promises may be fulfilled. That would be great!!!
Great attitude We can't really do anything here exept wait for the results of the judge's decision. It doesn't do much good to think gloom and doom.
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This is ALL that I can go by... It doesn't matter TO ME what anyone, on any of the boards SAY...because it is not any of the posters deciding the future of this company...it is the SEC... I am not the one that needs to be convinced of CSHD's claims...(i already have..that's why I hold the stock)...It is The SEC...so posters can argue back and forth...BUT? until the SEC lifts the suspension? Nothing matters... Even the most positive believer in this company will not be able to have much control if the SEC in not convinced... So? We wait... GLTY 3403 and all of us...
Thanks Dollar...
quote:Originally posted by 3403: Yes, if the suspension is lifted I would feel like the company is real and all is well. Maybe even the promises may be fulfilled. That would be great!!!
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