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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 16:22
  
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Bagram Member |
posted May 25, 2004 16:27
as far as i know there are no details of any buy out or the actual O/S. IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 16:29
quote: I do believe that they announced that on the hotline a while ago, some else give me a yay or nay on that that has been here for a while IP: Logged |
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Bob_dog Member |
posted May 25, 2004 16:30
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Bob_dog Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:12
[/b][/QUOTE] Amen, I love QBID and with the way laws are changing everyday I might just get to marry it, or atleast have a civil union  Give me a Q Give me a B Give me a I Give me a D Whats that spell ...... Cash Money Baby!!!!! Bob the super star Q loven' Dog [/B][/QUOTE] Bob the Super Star Q loven' Dog [This message has been edited by Bob_dog (edited May 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:15
I just read on the CMKX board that some poor guy put in a market order and bought for .0002, some MM was very happy. [This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited May 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Nostradamus Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:30
Change in website, sincere hotline messages ... okay, I finally feel good about QTV ... I got a feeling this may be the last week it's below .02 IP: Logged |
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cool1sh Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:37
I hope this prediction is as good as from a real NOSTR..
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betting babe Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:51
Just released by the AP: LOGO? Q is a logo ;-) Logo Network Aimed Toward Gays, Lesbians NEW YORK (AP) -- Logo, an MTV-backed basic cable network aimed at the gay and lesbian community and long in the planning stages, will go on the air next February. In announcing a Feb. 17 launch date Tuesday, the Viacom-owned MTV Networks provided few specific programming plans, other than to say it will offer a mix of movies, reruns and reality-oriented shows. Viacom had been discussing a gay cable network since at least 1994, but put it on the back burner because of a weak economy and other priorities. Now, an improved economic outlet has pushed the plans forward. ``We're excited,'' said Joan Garry, executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. ``Cable television is about niche programming and our niche has been conspicuously absent for a long, long time.'' However, the Traditional Values Coalition announced plans to boycott any Logo advertisers. Logo will be available on cable systems in Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta and San Francisco and is seeking other distribution. Its goal is to be in about 14 million homes by the end of next year. Tom Freston, MTV Networks chairman and CEO, said offering Logo as a basic cable service would make it a more promising business, despite limitations on language and content that pay outlets like HBO and Showtime don't face. The main network geared to gays and lesbians now is Here TV, a pay service available only on satellite TV systems, although it has plans for cable distribution later this year. Paul Colichman, president of Here TV, said he sees Logo more as a complementary service -- and potential business partner -- than a competitor. ``We're very excited because it gives us another buyer for our old programming,'' he said. Logo's greatest challenge will be appealing to a diverse gay and lesbian community that has high expectations, Garry said. ``The recipe for success for a gay channel is programming vision, access to distribution and a comfort with risk-taking,'' she said. ``MTV brings those things together. They're a huge force in the cable industry, so their distribution is strong.'' With affiliated networks MTV, VH1, Spike, Nickelodeon and CBS, Viacom has muscle in the industry that startup companies can't match. That's a lesson that Pridevision TV, a gay channel in Canada that has unsuccessfully tried to expand in the United States, has learned. Logo's operators say they also want it to be a comfortable place for viewers who aren't gay. Freston said the timing of Logo's announcement had nothing to do with the current push toward homosexual marriages. ``This is a network that is not really about politics,'' Freston said, adding that the channel's primary emphasis would be on entertainment. Logo is looking at working with CBS News for a monthly newsmagazine and perhaps MTV-styled news breaks, said Judy McGrath, president of the MTV Networks Music and Comedy Group. It has deals to acquire more than 100 movies. The Traditional Values Coalition, with 43,000 member churches, started working on plans for a boycott within an hour of hearing about Logo's launch, said the Rev. Louis Sheldon, its chairman. ``It doesn't improve television,'' Sheldon said. ``It only continues to offer moral anarchy for a very seriously dysfunctional lifestyle.'' Freston, who said he expects the network to break even financially within two or three years, said he doubted there'd be much opposition to Logo. There's been no resistance from advertisers so far, he said. ``We don't think it's indecent,'' he said. ``We're not using profanity, we're not using sex. This is going to be mainstream programming that you see everywhere else, except for the fact that it's targeted to the gay and lesbian community.'' ~BB IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:55
Does anyone think that this may overshadow any PR tomorrow for us and possibly bring us down? IP: Logged |
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betting babe Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:56
I'm of the hope that we are somehow a part of it... perhaps not yet announced? ~BB
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Bagram Member |
posted May 25, 2004 17:59
mtv has not said much about this but now the did and it allready hit every front page in america.just look at fox news. if you think i am bashing i am. i still own 200k after my bail out today but that is all free shares and i will leave it untill its worth taking out but we do need Qtelevision to get some media coverage and make this real. it seems that QBID is not being let into the mainstream by the closed media world. i have sent emails to drudge report and fow and cnn in the past with no response. i wonder how good the news could possibly be in the morning for you longs. IP: Logged |
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Bob_dog Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:05
quote: Roger That! When ViaComm does anything everyone notices. It's like comparing the Schrek2 against a new independant film. Who's going to get the most coversage? Bob IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:08
I fear where we might go if we are not tied into Logo in some way. After todays nice run and with this news, I can see a lot of scared investors abondoning the ship tomorrow, even with the PR coming. IP: Logged |
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whizknock Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:09
quote: We may very well end up being a part of it. Also we should be in a position of strength because Viacom/MTV is talking about Feb by which time we will have been on the air. "All we have to do is launch!" ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:10
A Viacom gay/lesbian channel is much more appealing to advertisors than the Q. IP: Logged |
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betting babe Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:12
from the Viacom website: MTV Networks To Launch LOGO Advertiser-Supported Cable Network With A Mix Of Original And Acquired Programming will Debut February 17, 2005
New York, N.Y. (May 25, 2004)— LOGO, a new cable television network targeted at lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) viewers will be launched by MTV Networks, a division of Viacom Inc. (NYSE: VIA, VIAB) on February 17, 2005. The new channel will be advertiser-supported, targeting primarily gays and lesbians, 25-49, and will provide a mix of original and acquired programming that is authentic, smart, inclusive and open-minded.
LOGO will launch in markets across America, including Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta and San Francisco, through national cable operators, including Time Warner Cable, RCN and additional distributors that will be announced in the coming weeks. LOGO joins Viacom’s roster of popular and highly-targeted cable networks which includes MTV, Comedy Central, BET and Spike TV.
“Creating a network specifically for the LGBT community is something we’ve wanted to do for a long, long time, and it’s an idea we feel is overdue,” said Tom Freston, Chairman and CEO of MTV Networks. “Despite our nation’s progress on civil rights and the growing visibility of gay people in business, society and even in television programming – what has been missing is a full-time home for this important and influential audience on television. We have big plans and hopes for LOGO and I’m thrilled to finally announce its arrival.”
Market researchers estimate the gay and lesbian population at 15 million adults, with a projected buying power of $485 billion (according to MarketResearch.com) and it is increasingly the target for many Fortune 500 companies.
“LOGO is all about identity: the individual and collective identities present in the gay and lesbian community that are amazingly diverse, but are joined by similar points of view and sensibilities,” said Judy McGrath, president of the MTV Networks Music and Comedy Group. “MTV Networks has a great history of connecting deeply with its audiences and it’s our great hope that gay and lesbian audiences will connect with LOGO like viewers connect with our other strong brands.”
LOGO will offer advertising and sponsorship opportunities beyond the traditional 30 second commercial spot. Key advertisers will be able to integrate their marketing messages into LOGO’s programming in unique ways, including product placement, editorial segments within programs involving their brand, online integration, development of contests and sweepstakes as well as take advantage of off-channel marketing opportunities.
For its initial launch phase, LOGO will have a mix of original and acquired programming. LOGO is already reaching out to some of the most talented and creative producers and writers to develop original series and specials. In addition, original content will be developed in collaboration with other Viacom networks, including Showtime, CBS News, VH1, MTV, Comedy Central and TV Land and will draw from its expertise in every area including entertainment, documentaries and news.
Additionally, deals are in place to acquire over 100 movie titles from a wide range of studios including, Sony, MGM, Paramount, Warner Bros., New Line, Showtime, Lions Gate, Sundance, Strand Releasing, and Sneak Preview Entertainment.
As a complement to the new digital basic channel, LOGO will offer a subscriber video on-demand service (SVOD). The SVOD service will offer approximately 70% movies.
About Viacom Viacom is a leading global media company, with preeminent positions in broadcast and cable television, radio, outdoor advertising, and online. With programming that appeals to audiences in every demographic category across virtually all media, the company is a leader in the creation, promotion, and distribution of entertainment, news, sports, music, and comedy. Viacom’s well-known brands include CBS, MTV, Nickelodeon, Nick at Nite, VH1, BET, Paramount Pictures, Infinity Broadcasting, Viacom Outdoor, UPN, TV Land, Comedy Central, CMT: Country Music Television, Spike TV, Showtime, Blockbuster, and Simon & Schuster. More information about Viacom and its businesses is available at www.viacom.com.
MTV Networks, a division of Viacom International Inc. (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), owns and operates the following television programming services -- MTV: MUSIC TELEVISION, MTV2, VHI, MTVU, NICKELODEON/NICK at NITE, COMEDY CENTRAL, TV LAND, SPIKE TV, CMT, NOGGIN, MTV INTERNATIONAL and THE DIGITAL SUITE FROM MTV NETWORKS, a package of 13 digital services, all of which are trademarks of MTV Networks. MTV Networks also has licensing agreements, joint ventures, and syndication deals whereby all of its programming services can be seen worldwide. --> What I notice there is the statement "For its initial launch phase, LOGO will have a mix of original and acquired programming." No sense trying to guess tonight IMO. IP: Logged |
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BobTheSlob Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:13
A little OT but how would you go about calculating your cost basis after purchasing various amounts at various prices. Surely there has to be a simple calculation that I can plug my numbers into. IP: Logged |
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jnm Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:14
quote: but with logo not going on air until feb '05, q has some time to gain ground...remember, "Passion of the Christ" was an independent film and now it's #7 all time in domestic gross. yes, shrek 2 will probably pass it, but Passion had its time to run. Right time (lent & easter). QBID has the same chance when they launch. news of logo might also cause blurbs about the competition (qbid) which would be good imho. IP: Logged |
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whizknock Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:15
Repost! Getting Deveny on board was almost as big as the launch it self! At this stage of the game it shows conviction on Franks part to make this thing a genuine TV network. Emerging first-in-kind Television Networks seeking sponsorships from consummer driven Fortune 500 companies hire accomplished, respected, high end public relations firms. Our pps will benifit most over a period of several years as this network learns what their target audience wants & delivers it. Our subscription numbers will increase month after month & new advertisers will sign on. When it comes to national forums on social & public policys, we will be viewed by straights & gay alike. This in turn will drive up ratings & bring in ever more advertising dollars. Remember, Broadcasting TV Networks do not trade under a dollar a share. There are reasons for that. Satellite radio did not experience the level of interest we have & we all saw what they did. SIRI is trading over $3 a share with 1 & 1/2 billion shares outstanding & niether XM or SIRI has reported a profit nor will they in the forseeable future. Stocks trade on future potential. I've read alot of posts trying to inject reason into these threads & stating that $1 is out of question & that too many people are caught up in a pipe dream. I believe they will be surprised at the value this company is trading at one year from now. Even though pps was not moved that much, the coup of the New Oeleans convention was getting Deveny in our corner. That news alone was worth Franks investment in New Orleans. When I think about that (Deveny) in reference to what other deals they may have arranged it gets even more exciting. From where I sit broadcasting is no longer in doubt. Everything else will fall in place. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mainetrader Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:27
quote: GZFX is listed on the Berlin exchange too since January 2004, something has to be done about this its a real pervasive problem. Fortunately the Qmeister does not come up with a .BE extension, maybe thats the main reason we have seen results, let's hope it stays that way! IP: Logged |
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betting babe Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:29
What if Q launches it's paid-subscription network now, forging the market, knowing that they will join advertiser-supported Viacom in February? It's clear there will be backlash if it is advertiser supported, as stated in Logo's PR. It could be a way of strategically establishing the gay & lesbian tv market. Again, just brainstorming... It would be hard to believe Q has come this far, met with all the big networks, and would be clueless of Viacom's plans. I mean, wouldn't all the big networks have Frank, sorry, but we have plans with Viacom. IP: Logged |
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Bagram Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:31
"THEY BETTER LAUNCH ON TIME OR ITS OVER" mtv just showed up on drudge report IP: Logged |
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kbpkt Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:38
quote: I agree, I just e-mailed Drudge about Qtelevision, probably won't get on his site, but it can't hurt. IP: Logged |
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Mainetrader Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:44
quote: Yeah, I like that area a lot, that's definately the life! We know the seasons as Ski, Mud, Tourists, and Foliage. There's always something fun to do any time of the year. Maybe I'll buy myself a camp on a quiet lake when QBID does her thing for me. For now I'll reluctantly continue my day job. IP: Logged |
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Bart Member |
posted May 25, 2004 18:48
VIACOM has said this several times before. Only later to say, they changed their minds. The worst thing that could happen to us. As QBID share holders. Is for QBID to join another network or be bought out. Frank must make a go of it. QBID must stand on its own two feet. 007 [This message has been edited by Bart (edited May 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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WinsumLosesum Member |
posted May 25, 2004 19:05
quote: Bob- Looks like your question got buried way back there, so I guess I'll respond. Get a calculator... 100,000 QBID X 0029 = $290 ... hit Memory + Hypothetically speaking, of course... (And the thought that 1M shares would have cost me only $100, had I discovered AllStocks sooner, just makes me want to cry... hypothetically speaking... But I'll get over it.) [This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited May 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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darogo Member |
posted May 25, 2004 19:44
big deal. so MTV says they're going to have a gay network. if you're an advertiser,what are you going to wait for febuary to advertise? it may not even ever happen at all. heck no. no, you're going to advertise on the current gay network - q-television. maybe the Q won't survive in the long run if viacom really DOES come out with a gay network. but the time is now for the Q and the price will go up and we'll all make some money. maybe we won't be millionaires, but i could stand to use a few extra K. i'm really surprised you'd take out most of your $ out right now bag, but we'll see what happens tomorrow.... IP: Logged |
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premiumtodd Member |
posted May 25, 2004 20:46
Yeah, I dont see the cable or satelite companies waiting a whole year just for the vaunted viacom/mtv. Advertisers arent going to wait a year either. If anything they will jump on with Q or HereTv and dump them down the road. The competition is good anyways for the cable and satellite companies because it keeps the carriage cost down. [This message has been edited by premiumtodd (edited May 25, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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OilMan Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:08
first in will win.... just like every other media landmark, first in will win........ people are not gonna wait for things just look at us waiting for the price to rise... people will not wait for what they can have today IP: Logged |
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Bialystock Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:10
Agreed. I remember there used to be a comedy channel called "Ha!" running for quite some time next to another Comedy Channel, and even given that they were basically the same product serving the same market, they both launched and ran successfully for a while before they merged as (I think) Comedy Central. Variety was good. Any two gay-themed channels have MUCH more opportunity to adopt their own unique slant on serving their market than does a comedy channel. The material is just so much more rich, and the palette more vast. Just look at how many times you see the same format in cooking shows being successful over and over and over, just by changing the style of cooking. I can see a gay themed music channel, a gay themed home & living channel, a gay themed movie channel, a gay themed reality/youth market channel, a Lesbian-issues only channel, and on and on, each being completely independent and successful in the long run. "Gay themed" should not mean gimmick, it just means "market" and this market is huge. I have no worries about this Logo thing, in fact I feel more excited than ever, and even vindicated as an investor for believing in an idea before Viacom commited to something similar. So should you. Logo will not make Q better or worse when it launches, well over 6 months earlier, by the way...it can only help to "out" our Q that much bigger and grander. Someone get that decency league on the phone about the Q! We need some good old fashioned controversy. Now that the media is searching for other targets while awaiting Logo, it is ONLY A MATTER OF TIME before they pick us up and make us a household phenomenon. Just my opinion, but the media is known to work like that. Funny that we get a new attractive website today suddenly...just in time to start emailing the link out to every news organization we can think of, yes, again, in light of this news. Not gonna speculate further, but it seems serendipitous. I'm getting started right now! Hope you all saved your list of news organization email addresses as well. Go Qbid! IP: Logged |
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gopack Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:23
Maybe Viacom timed this press release because they view the Q as viable competition. Could be trying to throw a blanket over the pending good Q news tomorrow. IP: Logged |
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Dakota's Missus Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:24
AMEN AND AMEN AND AMEN!! Where would business be if it wasn't competitive? If you have a product and you want others to realize the need and marketability of that product, what better way of having it demonstrated for you than to have a "known entity" follow your lead!! IMHO, MTV did something no paid PR agency could have done. MTV validated Q Television's product before the product was finalized. Come on along MTV...we'll pave the way for ya! IP: Logged |
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OilMan Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:36
And I can tell you that all it takes is one big advertiser to take the QBID plunge. After the first big boy jumps in the pull the rush to follow him will cause a swimming pool tsunami! Yes quote me on this one. IP: Logged |
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penguinking Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:37
you know ive been reading alot about people saying they e-mailed cnn usatoday etc..... and getting no response. well maybe they dont see it they way we do.. im probably speaking gibberish so ill get to the point. what if we sent email to those companys in the form of a headline.. IP: Logged |
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OilMan Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:38
Advertising is a peer pressure market. IP: Logged |
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Dakota's Missus Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:38
quote: Consider yourself quoted Oilman! LOL IP: Logged |
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OilMan Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:50
Big Corporation -- Mr. John Q. Advertiser, would you like to run an add campaign with us for 1 week at $$$$$$? You will be our 147,000th customer and you are not spending $$$$$$$$$$$ with us so we will be giving you the attention that you deserve. Next please QBID -- Big Corporation – QBID – ==== Any bets? === IP: Logged |
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Bagram Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:56
yea well it's hard to let that much money swing in the wind like that and i play this game with my helmet on and my chin strap tight. not trying to become a statistic so to speak.
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Dakota's Missus Member |
posted May 25, 2004 21:59
quote: You just gotta do your thing...believe me, we can't afford to leave a donation either! OilMan> I like your "role playing"... I don't bet though, I just toy in Penny Stocks! LOL IP: Logged |
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salvia123 Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:10
whats the damn website address again???? t IP: Logged |
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Rics1997 Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:14
I leave for a few hours and the bashers show up and ruin a perfectly good morning. It was starting to run this morning and the big boys couldn't have that and sent out there wolves I see. Well, I hope we can over come this tomorrow and those of you who don't show up here except when we are doing good just go away. If you can't put in good input when the stock is just moving slowly, we don't need you when its doing good. Rick IP: Logged |
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Dakota's Missus Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:21
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premiumtodd Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:34
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realityinc21 Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:36
quote: I have a lot on the same lake..I'll make you a good deal on. You can build a log home. The word "camp" seems a little misleading. Most of the "camps" are 3 to 4 bedrooms,den, family room, living room, dining room, 3 bath year round homes. To people in the Kennebunk Port area that is slumming it. lol ------------------ IP: Logged |
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will Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:38
Sounds like a lot of whistling past the graveyard going on in here. IP: Logged |
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premiumtodd Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:39
quote: Had the time of my life last summer rafting the Penobscot River in upstate Maine. Wow, All I gotta say is that Q Television should film a show called "The Boys of Maine" IP: Logged |
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premiumtodd Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:49
Stealing of an idea article referenced earlier. It costs to see the full article, but if anyone is interested here it is. IP: Logged |
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Mainetrader Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:56
A February 2005 launch of Viacom's G/L network will give QBID an 8 month first mover advantage, assuming we hard launch in July 2004. The gay marriage political issue is hot NOW, its not going to wait for Viacom, QBID will be there covering it from the start while Viacom's network is still in the works. Advertisers won't wait for Viacom either, they're going to want to reach their potential audience as soon as possible, not 10 months from now. Viacom is a late mover, they could have had this all ready to fly when the time was right but instead they shelved it and they're now playing catchup, a decision that in my opinion will cost them millions in lost revenues, its probably the likely launch of QBID which got them scrambling. Viacom is a large corporation, they can't move like a startup. Their announcement in my opinion will only help QBID by adding fuel to the frenzy. QBID is miles ahead in my opinion, they already have original programming and secured rights to air content. Even Viacom's deep pockets can't get them to the table faster than QBID. CNN can cover Viacom all they want, its usually the lesser known opportunity that has the explosive potential. First mover advantage is HUGE in this game, we need to launch with no delays to secure it. There's no doubt in my mind that my money is invested in the right place. Let's hope for a "smashing" pr tomorrow. Come on QBID, maybe we'll see that .025 tomorrow! IP: Logged |
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pharmdman Member |
posted May 25, 2004 22:59
quote: LMAO... no, it's not just you! ;P IP: Logged |
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