posted January 08, 2004 19:22            

I have been thinking about this post for some time now and thought that today would be a good time to share my opinion with other members of this board particularly in light of today's events.

As many of you know I have always always stated that there was plenty of news worthy of releasing to the public. If anything, the recent e-mail/News Letter from John confirms that there is lots happening.

Even the greatest ideas, visions or in this case business development plans will fade into nothingness if they cannot be sold. This is especially true when the future development of the company is largely determined by attracting investors willing to buy into the CEO's Vision for the company.

Now from my vantage point, John has designed a great business development plan and he is clearly working dilligently on delivering on that plan by putting all of the right steps into place. Where he gets a D- in my book is in selling that vision to the investment community. Once again, all of the steps John and his management team have made over the past months do not and should not be equated with FLUFF. I will argue this point until I am blue in the face. How anyone can argue this point is beyond me. Ask any CEO about selling their vision.

Every great CEO sells his business vision to the investment public and John must do the same. Actually it is part of his responsibility to the company to maintain and attract new investors.

As I see it, we have done our part and it is now time for John to step up to the "Selling his Vision for the Company Plate" and hit a home run. If this had been done earlier and successfully we would already be above 0.10 cents even without the New website launch.

posted January 08, 2004 19:23            

Just like when we were at .028...this train is leaving the station SOON!

posted January 08, 2004 19:31            

My opinion, especially from talking to John, is that he does not care about Friday or even next week. John doesn't care if you make 100% gains from this stock...he is interested in the long term health of the company, and he is going really slow. This stocks climb from under a penny to .04 since september is very good news. And most of this climb caim on very little to no news.

To loosey quote John, we will crawl before we walk, we will walk before we run....and as of now we are still walking. Give PGHI time for their buissnesss plan to take shape......give them time for the name change, new website's, and PPM.....basically, give them time to have something to sell......Most of the people that I have talked to, including Magoo, are waiting for some of the dust to settle before they invest a lot of money.

posted January 08, 2004 19:34            

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Originally posted by EDDREAMS:
Alittle more about PPM , I also got the letter it is not $ 2500.00 the minimun it is
$ 5000.00.- I am still thinking about getting in, for a rookie like me it is a little scary to put 5 grands in one place.-
Already have some good numbers of shares of PGHI the PPM will help a lot but still hurts a little.- For those rookies like me I like to say is very simple, if you belive the company is good then this drop don't means nothing just stay put, on the other hand if you don't belive why did you get in in the first place? I AM HOLDING FOR A LONG TIME A LEAST A YEAR, give this company a chance
ED.

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posted January 08, 2004 19:43            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
The letter is wrong....the minimum is $2,500

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posted January 08, 2004 20:05            

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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
That's true. It just needs to be updated. The minimum is $2,500.

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posted January 08, 2004 20:08            

this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....

As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.

posted January 08, 2004 20:12            

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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
I respectfully disagree with you...

this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....

As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.

I stated this before and will say it again, How long do you think you can keep selling the promise of a new website without anything concrete to show to the new investors to convince them that something is actually happening. I recommend that you read a text on marketing 101 and then show_me where I am wrong.

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posted January 08, 2004 20:14            

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Originally posted by tommy:
I agree with Gonnaplode, hopefully John will pay attention and take the appropriate steps. Personally I think that yesterday's email should have been a PR so that the world could know what the plans for the company are!

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posted January 08, 2004 20:15            

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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
PGHI investors

I have been thinking about this post for some time now and thought that today would be a good time to share my opinion with other members of this board particularly in light of today's events.

As many of you know I have always always stated that there was plenty of news worthy of releasing to the public. If anything, the recent e-mail/News Letter from John confirms that there is lots happening.

Even the greatest ideas, visions or in this case business development plans will fade into nothingness if they cannot be sold. This is especially true when the future development of the company is largely determined by attracting investors willing to buy into the CEO's Vision for the company.

Now from my vantage point, John has designed a great business development plan and he is clearly working dilligently on delivering on that plan by putting all of the right steps into place. Where he gets a D- in my book is in selling that vision to the investment community. Once again, all of the steps John and his management team have made over the past months do not and should not be equated with FLUFF. I will argue this point until I am blue in the face. How anyone can argue this point is beyond me. Ask any CEO about selling their vision.

Every great CEO sells his business vision to the investment public and John must do the same. Actually it is part of his responsibility to the company to maintain and attract new investors.

As I see it, we have done our part and it is now time for John to step up to the "Selling his Vision for the Company Plate" and hit a home run. If this had been done earlier and successfully we would already be above 0.10 cents even without the New website launch.

Even the greatest of ideas will wither and die on the vine if they cannot be sold....

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posted January 08, 2004 20:22            

However, anyone that has been reading the past two threads ould see that there has been work accomplished on a new website. There was even a link out there for a while...

I really don't care what new investors do today because there is no news. (The ones that bought for a quick gain)

I understand that a lot of day traders, as well as some swing traders, are going to sell some of their shares because of the lack of news..

Less the $500,000 (if my math is correct)changed hands today.....WHEN the new website is up....then we will see.

You see Gonnaplode, there are a lot of long term holders here (including yourself). We don't panic becasue of a delay in something. The SEC filings have confirmed the new name change and Roy Vella's website states he is making it for them.

We have not had a press release since December 9th and there has not been many complaints. AFRR released a lot of fluff PR's and look at their stock.....I wan't progress, then PR...not PR's that don't turn out.

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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
I respectfully disagree with you...

this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....

As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.

I stated this before and will say it again, How long do you think you can keep selling the promise of a new website without anything concrete to show to the new investors to convince them that something is actually happening. I recommend that you read a text on marketing 101 and then show_me where I am wrong.

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posted January 08, 2004 20:27            

New investors are what give value to this stock...are you new to investing? Even as a Newbie myself I know better than that.

and I have been in PGHI and singing it's praises since mid November and I have not sold one share. I believe this makes me a long by relative terms.....what does how long you have held a stock have to do with anything I have discussed here....absolutely nothing.

posted January 08, 2004 20:27            

Companies that spend too much time pumping the stock instead of concentrating on developing the business is bad news to me!

On another note I do agree with Gonnaplode that a PR stating the things listed on the email from yesterday would not be a bad idea at all, it would calm down a lot of people for a month or so!

posted January 08, 2004 20:28            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
bet 9,000,000 x .05 = $450,000

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posted January 08, 2004 20:30            

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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
You don't care about new investors?????

New investors are what give value to this stock...are you new to investing? Even as a Newbie myself I know better than that.

and I have been in PGHI and singing it's praises since mid November and I have not sold one share. I believe this makes me a long by relative terms.....what does how long you have held a stock have to do with anything I have discussed here....absolutely nothing.

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posted January 08, 2004 20:31            

Sure, the design and layout might of gone smooth as silk, but it is the actual site mechanics(real-time inventory, order processing, etc) that have acquired a monkey wrench. NOTE: PURE SPECULATION

With the exception of royvella.com, it sounds like all work is being done internally via the talents within VG's.

posted January 08, 2004 20:31            

i think in penny stocks where there is always some huge success story in the limelight, investors tend to forget that real sustained gains take more than investor euphoria. sure, it is dissappointing to see a stock slip back and watch your bottom line go from green to red, but if you invest with diversity, in increments and with patience you will be rewaded over the long haul. i suspect that many here play these penny stocks like horses, riding the gains and losses with every stride their pick makes. there is a large degree of luck necessary to make this method work.

we all tend to cheer the hares and ignore or overlook the tortises, even though we all still know thw outcome of that story. ibzt over the last few days was a good example. anything that has a 3000% gain to it's high over the last ten days will almost certainly give some of it back. i gave back about 60k this afternoon, but am still very pleased with where it is now over where it was just before christmas. i feel the same way about pghi, but also feel that the slower steady growth may prove to be more sustainable.

if ibzt goes sideways and consolidates for awhile, and then builds on press that deals with orders instead of the excitment regarding the release of a new product, the share price will become less volatile.

i feel the recent highs from pghi were in a large part due to the large attention it received on stock sites such as this one. this became the source for perhaps more attention and prediction than john fleming and his team were able to fulfill for us. we wanted to go from crawl to run in share value while the company was taking a step at a time. pennies to porsches and no more punching the clock.

in this penny stock world when investments fails to live up to the predictions and investors fail to get regular neck snapping performance, they look for something else. perhaps we all can learn something here about just how much we should speculate on price and time frame scenarios. if the share price is even in part driven by commentary, the gain or loss might not really reflect the true value.

uncle milty

posted January 08, 2004 20:31            

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Originally posted by jr:
tommy, when u get a minute could u send me that email from john? i think im the only person that hasnt seen it lol.. thanks alot

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posted January 08, 2004 20:33            

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Originally posted by stockguy04:
are you guys seeing a drop in PPS 2morow again... from the direction of the TA and other factors it seems that we might see a dip 2morow and maybe the finish of a strong cup and handle,,, what do you guys think?

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posted January 08, 2004 20:33            

If you believe in the company and did your DD correctly, just sit back and relax, like I said before, I've been through more than one up and down with PGHI and each time we emerged stronger and higher. Patience is a virtue!

GLTA!

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Originally posted by stockguy04:
are you guys seeing a drop in PPS 2morow again... from the direction of the TA and other factors it seems that we might see a dip 2morow and maybe the finish of a strong cup and handle,,, what do you guys think?

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posted January 08, 2004 20:35            

Gonn, you make it sound as to there is no website coming at all. And that we should all wait until .02 to buy the stock...

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Originally posted by old mullet:
betinit & all

i think in penny stocks where there is always some huge success story in the limelight, investors tend to forget that real sustained gains take more than investor euphoria. sure, it is dissappointing to see a stock slip back and watch your bottom line go from green to red, but if you invest with diversity, in increments and with patience you will be rewaded over the long haul. i suspect that many here play these penny stocks like horses, riding the gains and losses with every stride their pick makes. there is a large degree of luck necessary to make this method work.

we all tend to cheer the hares and ignore or overlook the tortises, even though we all still know thw outcome of that story. ibzt over the last few days was a good example. anything that has a 3000% gain to it's high over the last ten days will almost certainly give some of it back. i gave back about 60k this afternoon, but am still very pleased with where it is now over where it was just before christmas. i feel the same way about pghi, but also feel that the slower steady growth may prove to be more sustainable.

if ibzt goes sideways and consolidates for awhile, and then builds on press that deals with orders instead of the excitment regarding the release of a new product, the share price will become less volatile.

i feel the recent highs from pghi were in a large part due to the large attention it received on stock sites such as this one. this became the source for perhaps more attention and prediction than john fleming and his team were able to fulfill for us. we wanted to go from crawl to run in share value while the company was taking a step at a time. pennies to porsches and no more punching the clock.

in this penny stock world when investments fails to live up to the predictions and investors fail to get regular neck snapping performance, they look for something else. perhaps we all can learn something here about just how much we should speculate on price and time frame scenarios. if the share price is even in part driven by commentary, the gain or loss might not really reflect the true value.

uncle milty

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posted January 08, 2004 20:45            

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Originally posted by machtabow:
Tommy are we saving PR money by emailing investors? All is well. Time to accumulate more shares! Take care! mach

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posted January 08, 2004 20:50            

I wish you would have posted previously so that I would not have bought into PGHI on one of its all time highs....

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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Why bother with the ppm, if I have to wait thirty days for any announcement to the investment community as to progress, I will be able to buy them in the market for 0.02....

On second thought, bring it on...I won't be buying anymore shares that don't average down...what a loss for the company....all in all.

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posted January 08, 2004 21:00            

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Originally posted by tigerontop:
I have a quick question for anyone. I would love to accumlate more shares but have put all my funds in already for the long haul. Will there ever be a good stability to play the dips to add shares or is it to risky? Thats just the only way I can add shares.

[This message has been edited by tigerontop (edited January 08, 2004).]

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posted January 08, 2004 21:01            

slowly pieces will all fall into place
take a look:
http://www.gameznflix.com/
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posted January 08, 2004 21:03            

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hold a certain percentage of it, daytrade the rest. I hold 65% for the long term, and trade the rest. This strategy has allowed me to build my position, and allowed me to enter today near the low.

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posted January 08, 2004 21:04            

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Originally posted by tigerontop:
Thats a good point. Thanks! It just seems way to easy to see the floors and ceilings with the past now that yo ulook back, but with the news and site coming anyday I think it could be easy to be caught by suprise.

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posted January 08, 2004 21:05            

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well considering that all stocks go up and down, that might be a good idea to buy in the consolidation.....better then buying in the high...

I wish you would have posted previously so that I would not have bought into PGHI on one of its all time highs....

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posted January 08, 2004 21:08            

The worst thing a business can do to dissapoint investors is make promises and then not fill them.That creates a negative tone ...a loss of confidence and a loss of business.Hence J.F. does not put out PR's until he knows it is 100% ready to go.He then becomes reliable to the investment community and a reliable person can call
his own shots.New investors are not the priority here.The priority is establishing the product , then fine tuning it so it is presentable to the public.Once the product is presentable you then start a marketing blitz , then the marketing blitz generates the attention of the new investors.The new investors see a polished product and they invest.Fleming knows what to do this is not the first business venture he has been involved in.If you do not believe this I will be happy to give you a list of great products that never got off the ground because people made promises they could not deliver.REMEMBER the most impotant part of a business is the reliablity of its promises.If you can deliver on your promises the flood gates are open.With all due respect to everyone posting on this board if everyone would stop talking about what is to come and building up peoples expectations about messages from Fleming we would all be better off.The site will come the name change will come the DVD business will come just let it take its course.It will not get here any faster if we put our own timetable on it because we want our shares to increase.Just my thoughts.

posted January 08, 2004 21:12            

Thanks!

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
If you have a cash account that makes you wait 3 days, you should just hold. I am able to do this because my margin account allows me to daytrade cash

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posted January 08, 2004 21:20            

The only drawback- annoying daytrading call messages. It constantly says I have a daytrading call- which is wrong because I don't purchase on margin. Folks at Ameritrade told me to ignore it.

PS- I recieved an email from Ameritrade about the new website they are creating, and it will be modeled after the DATEK site. WooHoo!

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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Hey, Cabbage... you just use your own cash? If you use margin do you know how much the interest rate is? I have Ameritrade too... thinking about the margin account for easier trading. Any drawbacks?

Thanks!

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posted January 08, 2004 21:22            

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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Hey, Cabbage... you just use your own cash? If you use margin do you know how much the interest rate is? I have Ameritrade too... thinking about the margin account for easier trading. Any drawbacks?

Thanks!

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posted January 08, 2004 21:50            

Everyone has their own tradeing style but in the long run everyone includeing myself understand what this stock is most likely to do.

I am going to watch the MM's play their games tomorrow and see which direction we go in. If they take it down a bit I will be buying in at a point to freeze the backward slide.

I do believe that we will see a natural upward trend tomorrow.

If you are worried about any losses today maybe you can look at it this way. Why am I not worried when my losses are on almost five million shares.

posted January 08, 2004 21:52            

If you had followed my previous posts on technicals, you would've known that we were overbought. Of course, it is hard to sell when you know a PR is due out any day.

Today was actually a very good move for the stock. What we went through is known as "Consolidation" where the price has run up- the bids have spread out, so the asks were in a sense "compacted" forming "resistence". We have been consolidating FOR THREE DAYS. Today's move was good, because it got most of the consolidating out of the way in a short period of time.

It was also good because it was a drop on relatively low volume.

We have support at .04, the fibs state this, the level 2's state this, and the 20 Day EMA states this.

I bought back at .041 today 6 mintues before the close because of these technical reasons.

Overall we are still in an uptrend.

Two possibilities exist considering no news is released.

1) an "M-Type Top" is formed. Look at the chart if you dont know what this is, the last run up to .05 formed one. Given the magnitude of the drop, and possibility of news I think this is a strong possibility. The stock would rebound quickly back to resistence, from there weak hands that got in late would sell off for break even.

2) Continuation of the Ascending Triangle/Cup & Handle pattern. We have strong strong strong support at .04-.035. The two's are likely gone forever and we will not be seing them again.
This pattern would be a continuation of consolidation and would bottom out where the volume has completely dried up.

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Keep in mind, these are my opinions and interpetations of the technical indicators which are after the fact, and cannot fully predict future events. Go PGHI!

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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God

posted January 08, 2004 23:06            

That's how I understand it.

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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
What does it mean when the spread is wide? Anthing?

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