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ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 21:46 Just wanted to let everyone know where we stand in the online game rental market. Right now Gamefly is out biggest competitor. However, I called their customer support today and they only have one distribution center. It's in Santa Monica, CA and they said it takes about 5 days to ship to the East Coast. Now think about the fact that we're opening a distribution center in KY right now with more to come. There's really gonna be no competition! I talked to JF about this and he said, to his knowledge, there are no other online game rental companies with more than one distro center. This is a huge leg up. In a matter of weeks or even days we will have double the # of distro centers that our competitors have and will be able to further our already #1 rated customer service. That's right. VeeGeez is rated #1 in customer service in this market. [This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 09, 2004).] IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 21:53 Here's Gamefly's customer service # is you want to verify... 1-888-986-6400 IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:05 Yesterday VeeGeez site ranking was 158,457 Today VeeGeez site ranking is 156,817 Thats an increase of around 1,600! I'm not promoting the "Alexa Toolbar" or anything, but is really a great free download. It blocks pop-ups for you, has a built in google search bar, tells you the ranking of every site you visit, and gives you links to competitor's sites- or similar sites, and its only about a 1/4" wide! http://www.alexa.com oh and allstocks is jumping in the rankings too, now 37,986 up from 40,something a few days ago IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:05 JEB - You have email. IgnBliss - I like that post. Yesireee! IP: Logged
j160e Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:24 Awesome post ignorantbliss! Great DD! quote: Originally posted by ignorantbliss: Just wanted to let everyone know where we stand in the online game rental market. Right now Gamefly is out biggest competitor. However, I called their customer support today and they only have one distribution center. It's in Santa Monica, CA and they said it takes about 5 days to ship to the East Coast. Now think about the fact that we're opening a distribution center in KY right now with more to come. There's really gonna be no competition! I talked to JF about this and he said, to his knowledge, there are no other online game rental companies with more than one distro center. This is a huge leg up. In a matter of weeks or even days we will have double the # of distro centers that our competitors have and will be able to further our already #1 rated customer service. That's right. VeeGeez is rated #1 in customer service in this market. [This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 09, 2004).] IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:27 Thanks guys, just trying to contribute. IP: Logged
Magoo Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:35 Just thought I would check in and say that i am holding strong and long Will be busy at work for the next couple of tradeing days and not too much time to spend on the computer. Good to see that we are tradeing sideways and gaining a little before the breakout. Magoo IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:38 If by chance anyone wants a copy of the research I did on the DVD and Game Rental market, just ask. I placed all the articles in one file. Time go find a "little" Ole Grand Dad & 7. Cheers! IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:49 Does anyone know if Netflix is planning on renting games at any point? That would be some major competition considering their money and # of distro centers. Anyone know? I'm going to look into it. IP: Logged
wvmayor Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:53 I am eager for them to launch their new site and an affiliate program so I can link to them and earn commissions. My sites are ranked 21,000 and 24,000 on Alexa and I'm certain I can drive new traffic to GamezNFlix.com. WVMayor IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:56 IgnBliss - CEO of Netflix stated in several interviews, that he's focused on aquiring another 3,500 subscribers...just doing the movie rentals. No indication whatsoever of an interest in games. Cheers! IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 22:58 That's good news, thanks. Could you send me the research you have? email me at ****** quote: Originally posted by phantom1107: IgnBliss - CEO of Netflix stated in several interviews, that he's focused on aquiring another 3,500 subscribers...just doing the movie rentals. No indication whatsoever of an interest in games. Cheers! [This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 10, 2004).] IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:00 Hopefully we can corner the online game rental market then blindside Netflix when we start renting DVDs. Then I believe we would have a huge advantage over Netflix and anyone else in the online market. IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:09 IgnBliss - I'll email you when I get back home, in about 45 minutes from now. IP: Logged
j160e Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:11 With some talk of Netflix, maybe some who haven't seen these facts before might find them interesting. I posted this info last month on the previous thread. To get an idea of how Netlix operates and grew and to compare as things proceed here, I compiled some items from their latest 10-K and 10-Q reports. Just something to look at as a reference point as things proceed. Netflix was incorporated on August 29, 1997 and began operations on April 14, 1998. They use a proprietary software system which recommends selections by creating a custom interface for each individual subscriber. They believe they are superior to their competition by providing a more comprehensive selection which includes more than 15,000 titles on more than 5.1 million DVD�s. By the end of 2003, they expect to reach 70% of their subscribers (or 60% of the U.S population) with one day delivery. Online advertising is considered to be their largest paid source of new subscribers. Third parties that place online ads and generate online subscription referrals are generally paid a cash bounty for each subscription referred. Netflix has agreements with DVD player manufacturers requiring them to place advertising inserts inside boxes and they also have a relationship with Best Buy for promotional efforts. They have revenue sharing agreements with more than 50 studios and distributors to obtain titles for lower initial costs in exchange for sharing of subscription revenues for a defined period of time, generally 1 year. This allows for the acquisition of more copies of each title. There are 23 distribution centers with an average set-up cost of approximately $60,000 for each. Average size of a dc is 5,000 sq. ft. (I've seen the Boston dc) The executive offices are in a 25,000 sq. ft. leased building and there is another 50,000 sq. ft. leased building for customer service, IT and distribution. Customer Service is available 7 days/wk. As of 12/31/02, there were 381 full time employees. As of 09/30/03 Netflix has 80,000,000 authorized and 24,227,548 issued and outstanding shares of common stock. Revenues and # of Subscribers for year end were: 1998 - $1,339,000 / NA 1999 - $5,006,000 / 107,000 2000 - $35,894,000 / 252,000 2001 - $75,912,000 / 456,000 2002 - $152,806,000 / 857,000 2003* - $191,058,000 / 1,291,000 as of *Sept. 30 quote: Originally posted by phantom1107: IgnBliss - CEO of Netflix stated in several interviews, that he's focused on aquiring another 3,500 subscribers...just doing the movie rentals. No indication whatsoever of an interest in games. Cheers! IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:29 Awesome info j160e. I saw this a while back but it's good to bring it to the top and refresh our memories and educate others. Thanks. [QUOTE]Originally posted by j160e: [B]With some talk of Netflix, maybe some who haven't seen these facts before might find them interesting. I posted this info last IP: Logged
ignorantbliss Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:30 Thanks. Looking forward to reading it. quote: Originally posted by phantom1107: IgnBliss - I'll email you when I get back home, in about 45 minutes from now. IP: Logged
VeeHappy Member	posted January 09, 2004 23:45 quote: Originally posted by realityinc21: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kaged: [B]Tommy, I also have a Scottrade acount. You can trade pennies and sub pennies up to 4 decimals. However, Pink sheets are done over the phone @ $22.00 per trade plus .005 of the total amount. That was the main reason I transferred most of my pennies to Freetrade. Kaged KAGED AND TOMMY, FYI---YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE 22.50 FEE BY PUTTING IN A BUY/SELL ORDER IN FOR THE ROUNDED UP/DOWN CENT. IT IS JUST LIKE PUTTING IN A MARKET ORDER. FOR INSTANCE: PGHI BID .044 ASK .045. YOU PUT BUY ORDER IN FOR .05 AND IT WILL BUY AT THE ASK OF .045. SAME WITH SELLING. PUT SELL ORDER IN FOR .04 AND IT WILL SELL AT THE BID OF .044. THIS TOTALLY ELIMINATED THE NEED TO CALL IN AND ALSO THE 45.00 FEE. 22.50 AND BUY AND 22.50 TO SELL. I REALLY LIKE SCOTTRADE FOR PENNIES BECAUSE YOU CAN CALL THEM ON THE PHONE AND THEY WILL ANSWER. IN FOUR YEARS OF DAY TRADING I HAVE ALWAYS REACHED THEM AND SOMEONE ANSWERS BY THE 3RD RING OR IT GOES TO THE CENTRAL OFFICE AND THEY CAN HELP YOU. THIS IS GREAT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE ROAD AND WANT TO CHECK A BID/ASK OR CHANGE AN BUY/SELL ORDER. ALSO YOU CAN STAY ON THE LINE TILL THE ORDER IS EXECUTED: SOMETIMES VERY IMPORTANT WITH PENNIES AS THEY MOVE SO QUICKLY AND EXECUTION CAN MEAN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A PANIC SELL. (BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT)I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT AMERTRADE BY PHONE AND HAVE BEEN ON HOLD FOR UP TO 10 MIN. ALTHOUGH I LIKE HOLDING MY LONGS WITH AMERITRADE. SCOTTRADE HAS A MUCH BETTER REAL TIME STREAMER THAN AMERITRADE OR E-TRADE. IMHO I HAVE MARGIN ACCOUNTS IN ALL AND USE THE SCOTTRADE STREAMER DAILY. ALSO MUCH MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM MAIN SCREEN FOR CHARTS AND FINANCIALS. I ALSO LIKE THE REAL TIME WALLSTREET STREAMING NEWS THAT YOU CAN SET UP ON YOUR SCREEN. ESPECIALLY DOW JONES HOT STOCKS NEWS HIGHLIGHTS AND INSTANT NEWS OF MERGERS/AQUISTIONS AND QUARTERLY ETC ETC. ALL FREE WITH ACCOUNT OF $500.00. HOPE THIS HELPS. POWER MARKET TRADER by E*TRADE is the BEST!!! 9.95 comm/trade (OTC-BB)...regardless of how many shares.EX.Buy 1million shares of PGHI w/ 9.95 comm. Cheers to 2000 pennies. IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 10, 2004 00:16 J160E - That's for that info. Grade = A+ Looooong and Strooooong!!! IP: Logged
phantom1107 Member	posted January 10, 2004 00:23 J160E - I meant "thanks" for that info. IgnBliss - You got mail. IP: Logged
PSU90 Member	posted January 10, 2004 01:16 Had to log off before the close today....quite a finish! The bulls took back control today. A great looking hammer candle formation. When a hammer forms after a downtrend, it can be a powerful reversal signal. Look for the bulls to be in charge Monday for confirmation of the trend change. http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[da][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLh66,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G For all those who held on....good job. Some of the "old timers" in PGHI know that I learned this the hard way back when this ran from subpenny to .039 the first time. I logged on one morning to find the MM's had taken it down to .018 and panicked. Even though I had done my DD and believed the company was on to something....emotion took over. I sold my entire position (for a gain at the time.....but all I could see was all the profit slipping away). Not long after I sold, it started back up. I was forced to buy back in at higher prices. I still do not have the same size position I had way back in October (but today's dip helped me squeek a little closer)! I wish my average pps was between .006 and .008 like it was then! With today's buy, my average is closer to .03. Its never easy to watch the retracements, but once you've been through a few, you will realize that its the normal course of action. PGHI has a lot going for it. Be careful not to miss the ride! PSU IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 10, 2004 02:17 Good to see that you picked some more PSU, I bought more yesterday during the big drop, but I'm holding out for next week for my last entry- just hope I can buy before we hit the .05's, the buying at the close today was very bullish! IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 10, 2004 13:47 http://www.tradetrek.com/NN/default.asp?symbol=PGHI IP: Logged
fozzy Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:34 Hey guys, I've been thinking about the subject of a reverse split for some time now and could use a little discussion to help me get a clearer vision for the future (6-18 months down the road). At what price level do you think JF would initiate a reverse split? .50? .30? And at what ratio? 1:5? 1:4? I think these are important questions we all need to think about (those who are REAL LONG anyway). I was planning on selling a small portion of PGHI in the "near" future (April-May, depending on price), but keeping the bulk of it until 2005-06. I don't think it will get much higher than .30 by spring, so that is probably where I will sell the short term shares. However, I will keep several hundred K for more than 1 year. I'm pretty sure JF wants to be listed on NASD fairly soon, so all the big players can see PGHI (or GMFX, whatever it is then). What is the most likely course of action PGHI will take? If they are ever going to repeat the success of NFLX, they need to reduce the O/S by a LOT. Just looking for some input on when everyone thinks a reverse split would occur and at what ratio. Thanks guys, Fozzy IP: Logged
stockguy04 Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:39 fozzy for pghi to ever reach the success of netflix.. in terms of shares outstanding and marketcap... they would have to put around a 11:1 split... i think nflx has 80mil shares and pghi has about 900mil... those r pretty rough guesses although i think they r accurate... it took netflix 5 years to acheive the sucess it did so patience is a key here quote: Originally posted by fozzy: Hey guys, I've been thinking about the subject of a reverse split for some time now and could use a little discussion to help me get a clearer vision for the future (6-18 months down the road). At what price level do you think JF would initiate a reverse split? .50? .30? And at what ratio? 1:5? 1:4? I think these are important questions we all need to think about (those who are REAL LONG anyway). I was planning on selling a small portion of PGHI in the "near" future (April-May, depending on price), but keeping the bulk of it until 2005-06. I don't think it will get much higher than .30 by spring, so that is probably where I will sell the short term shares. However, I will keep several hundred K for more than 1 year. I'm pretty sure JF wants to be listed on NASD fairly soon, so all the big players can see PGHI (or GMFX, whatever it is then). What is the most likely course of action PGHI will take? If they are ever going to repeat the success of NFLX, they need to reduce the O/S by a LOT. Just looking for some input on when everyone thinks a reverse split would occur and at what ratio. Thanks guys, Fozzy IP: Logged
fozzy Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:42 Actually, PGHI only HAS about 440 Million shares outstanding. They are AUTHORIZED to issue 900 Mil, but will not. I think a 1:4 reverse would be ok to get on NASD (to get PGHI around 110 Mil), then possibly a 1:2 to really get the O/S reduced (55 Mil). Fozzy IP: Logged
stockguy04 Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:43 ohh nice... are u sure about those numbers... i hope u r IP: Logged
fozzy Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:48 I know it's in the mid 400's. Someone posted the exact number a few days back, but I can't seem to find it on this thread. There are so many dang posts about PGHI, it's impossible to keep up IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:49 Guys, the O/S don't really matter that much. Take satelite radio for example, you have SIRI at 3.50 and XMSR at 28.00, but they have similar market caps. All they need is a share price over $1.00 to stay listed on naz IP: Logged
stockguy04 Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:51 this is a noob question... how hard is it 2 get on the nasdaq and what extra requirements does a comapny like pghi need. is john focusing on getting on the nasdaq once he gets more mainstream? IP: Logged
fozzy Member	posted January 10, 2004 14:54 lol, I think it matters a little bit XMSR only has 110 mil o/s, so I can see a price of $27 and a market cap of 4 billion. Dunno how the hell SIRI is getting away with it, almost 1 billion o/s w/ 3.4 billion in market cap. Hey, if PGHI goes to 3.4 billion in market cap with 440 million shares, so be it!! I'm sure we'd all be happy with a pps of 7.70! quote: Originally posted by cabbage22: Guys, the O/S don't really matter that much. Take satelite radio for example, you have SIRI at 3.50 and XMSR at 28.00, but they have similar market caps. All they need is a share price over $1.00 to stay listed on naz IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 10, 2004 15:18 Fozzy you dont understand, they can have 1 million OS or 200 OS, it doesnt really matter, they just need to set the price above $1, and adjust the OS for the price they choose. Their market cap will stay the same- SIRI XMSR is a perfect example of this quote: Originally posted by fozzy: lol, I think it matters a little bit XMSR only has 110 mil o/s, so I can see a price of $27 and a market cap of 4 billion. Dunno how the hell SIRI is getting away with it, almost 1 billion o/s w/ 3.4 billion in market cap. Hey, if PGHI goes to 3.4 billion in market cap with 440 million shares, so be it!! I'm sure we'd all be happy with a pps of 7.70! IP: Logged
fozzy Member	posted January 10, 2004 15:35 I know they only need to get to $1 to get listed on NASD, that I agree with. But where I think we are missing viewpoints is in the price per share once it does go on NASD. For example, NFLX has about 25M OS, with a pps of $62 to equal a cap of 1.5B. There is no way PGHI can hope to reach much past $20 with its current OS level. I mean, let's be realistic. 440M OS * $60 pps (what nflx is at, and we HOPE pghi someday) = 26.4B market cap. C'mon....no way! PGHI would need a helluva lot of revenue to justify that! Even NFLX only brings in 230M w/ their cap of 1.5B. So simple math tells us PGHI should bring in 40B in revenue. Ain't gonna happen. I guess there is no "set" number on how high the market cap can be, but there is a psychological one. No one is gonna pay upwards of $20 for PGHI with that many OS, IMO. They are going to HAVE to reduce shares at some point, whether PGHI buys them back or does a reverse split. Unless I am just delusional here? Don't get me wrong, I would love to not have a reverse split, but it seems imminent. But you are wracking my brain, cabbage...and all on a Saturday! lol Fozzy quote: Originally posted by cabbage22: Fozzy you dont understand, they can have 1 million OS or 200 OS, it doesnt really matter, they just need to set the price above $1, and adjust the OS for the price they choose. Their market cap will stay the same- SIRI XMSR is a perfect example of this IP: Logged
m_h13021 Member	posted January 10, 2004 16:07 01.09.2004 _____________ Authorized: 900,000,000 Issued: 468,049,949 Float: 226,284,982 12.15.2003 _____________ Authorized: 900,000,000 Issued: 440,799,949 Float: 197,361,116 Difference _____________ Authorized: Zero Issued: +27,250,000 Float: +28,923,866 ________________________ Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/09/2003 (801)277-1400 IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 10, 2004 16:53 A reverse split might or might now happen in the future but IMHO I think that at this time, even talking about it is wasting our time. The number of shares is only significant when it is spoken about relatively to: 1) Shareholder's interest and confidence 2) Present/Future of the current/potential Marketshare of the business All of that said, at this time we need to concentrate on running the business rather than to obsess about the number of shares or a R/S. I believe that GamezNFlix' management have the R/S question in their business plan and will address it in time. For now they need to build the backbone so that the structure is solid enough to sustain the company if/when we do get to a major index. Questions and comments are welcome. GLTA! Tommy IP: Logged
m_h13021 Member	posted January 10, 2004 18:03 http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=24164 IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 10, 2004 18:09 That moron on RB posted the CEO's email! I knew that was gonna happen, people always say "oh I promise I won't post it" but there's always one guy who wants to be "cool"! quote: Originally posted by m_h13021: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=24164 IP: Logged
slotplayer Member	posted January 10, 2004 19:03 tommy, i think he got the email from john. he had posted on RB some time ago that he owned 100k of PGHI shares. no need to feel guilty quote: Originally posted by tommy: That moron on RB posted the CEO's email! I knew that was gonna happen, people always say "oh I promise I won't post it" but there's always one guy who wants to be "cool"! IP: Logged
slotplayer Member	posted January 10, 2004 19:07 Tommy...don't feel bad. That guy posted some time ago that he owned 100k on RB. Probably got the email from JF like most of us quote: Originally posted by tommy: That moron on RB posted the CEO's email! I knew that was gonna happen, people always say "oh I promise I won't post it" but there's always one guy who wants to be "cool"! IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 10, 2004 19:22 I don't feel bad at all, I just can't believe how dumb some people are that's all! GLTA! quote: Originally posted by slotplayer: Tommy...don't feel bad. That guy posted some time ago that he owned 100k on RB. Probably got the email from JF like most of us IP: Logged
coumars Member	posted January 10, 2004 21:42 Tommy , do you beleive things will improve more monday morning. quote: Originally posted by tommy: I don't feel bad at all, I just can't believe how dumb some people are that's all! GLTA! IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 10, 2004 22:11 What will improve? The PPS? quote: Originally posted by coumars: Tommy , do you beleive things will improve more monday morning. IP: Logged
Gonnaplode Member	posted January 10, 2004 23:39 I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future. My guess is that John probably considered this event as a possibility and chose his words accordingly in his Newsletter/E-mail. Best to all! IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 10, 2004 23:56 This is exactly why I felt so strongly about the email swapping. There is no telling where it will end up, and who is stupid enough to post the information. I hope we can keep this type of thing under control next time (if) we're contacted. IP: Logged
raven76 Member	posted January 11, 2004 00:05 There is no reason to get upset or dissapointed, just because the e-mail of CEO has been posted in a public forum.. Are we( the sharesholders of PGHI) a secret organization, so we should hide information from the public? JF simply informed the shareholders about the current & future developements.. "I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future." Gonnaplode, why will this discourage JF to communicate with shareholders? If he doesn't want the public to know about any improvements, he wouldn't share that info with ANYBODY..So, I completely agree with your second paragraph... GL quote: Originally posted by Gonnaplode: I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future. My guess is that John probably considered this event as a possibility and chose his words accordingly in his Newsletter/E-mail. Best to all! IP: Logged
cabbage22 Member	posted January 11, 2004 00:58 Can't wait! IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 11, 2004 00:59 There was an MSN board for PGHI that got shut down for posting emails from the CEO, old timers will confirm that fact. PGHI's management got pretty upset and asked that board be shut down. Shareholder info is just that, for shareholders, not for the whole publicto know. Now, do you understand why it's upsetting to us longs who witnesses all this already in the past? That's why I asked everyone not to post it here or on ANY board! GLTA! quote: Originally posted by raven76: There is no reason to get upset or dissapointed, just because the e-mail of CEO has been posted in a public forum.. Are we( the sharesholders of PGHI) a secret organization, so we should hide information from the public? JF simply informed the shareholders about the current & future developements.. "I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future." Gonnaplode, why will this discourage JF to communicate with shareholders? If he doesn't want the public to know about any improvements, he wouldn't share that info with ANYBODY..So, I completely agree with your second paragraph... GL IP: Logged
Magoo Member	posted January 11, 2004 01:38 There are things communicated in private e-mails which pertain to the situation being spoken of. Even though the statements which John Flemming had spoke of seem to be of a general nature it is being directed to a particulal individual to answer directed questions. The problem here is haveing the general plublic read the statment brings doubts into play depending how one interpets the information. Everyone wants immediate action to see their stocks go up in value quickly. That is why traders generally tradeing in the penny stocks want to see immediate results and can draw improper conclusions from such a e-mail. I have spoken with John Flemming about investing a good amount of cash in either the PPM stock or maybe in an other method. This conversation is private as it is pertaining to my situation and I would never let anyone else know as to any details which was spoken. Tommy is right and this person is wrong in posting an e-mail sent to him by the CEO. Anyone who is a shareholder has the right to contact John Flemming and get answers to their questions but keep it between the shareholders and not outside sources. Magoo IP: Logged
tommy Member	posted January 11, 2004 01:51 For those of you who complained about PGHI's number of shares, check out IBZT's numbers! IBZT: ----- Authorized: 5,000,000,000 Issued: 1,438,187,864 Float: 1,109,761,389 PGHI: ----- Authorized: 900,000,000 Issued: 468,049,949 Float: 226,284,982 IP: Logged
kevinscott Member	posted January 11, 2004 08:27 Anyone still around here that could possibly send me that e-mail that you've all been talking about... ksblick@hotmail.com Thanks Kevin IP: Logged

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