Rose-colored glasses are sure going for cheap these days! - at least on this board!
If you had bought in December of '03 I bet you wouldn't be complaining. Looks like you didn't, so for you the sky has already fallen. So either buy more at these low prices or wash you hands of the thing and sell. I'm sure there are plenty of willing takers out there.
If you want a guarantee of growth, don't wash for feet for a week.......or go buy a plant. But even with a plant, you have to care for it properly. That's all the dedicated owners of this stock are doing.
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quote: Rose-colored glasses are sure going for cheap these days! - at least on this board!
Let's look at the O/S at the time, however: 01/03/2000 0.079 (100 million O/S) 12/31/2001 0.009 (900 million O/S) 12/31/2003 0.0001 (8 billion O/S) 12/31/2004 0.005 (16 billion O/S?) 06/20/2005 0.0018 (? billion O/S)
IMHO, Frank needs to assure investors he is not diluting. I want to see him update the Investor Relations page now.
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quote:Originally posted by jackpot: There's no way this company can survive with this micro penny worthlessness stock price. The money will run out and I can say " I told you so"! :rolleyes:
jack-???
(I will fill in the rest of your name after you aswer the following questions)
While re-reading some old posts, I found this one from you. Please help me understand what you are saying:
1) Are you saying that the PPS of a stock determines the company's income / cash flow?
2) If so, are you saying that the PPS of a stock determines the company's ability to operate?
3) If so, are you saying that QBID's current "low" price is preventing QBID from progressing toward its business goals?
4) If so, are you saying that QBID cannot survive and will soon go out of business and leave our shares worthless?
5) If so, are you saying that the shares you "say" you own will soon be worthless?
6) If so, are you admitting that you are too stupid to get out now, rather than losing all your money when the company goes under?
7) If so, do you expect us to listen to your advice when you don't follow your own advice?
8) If so, tell us why we should listen to anything you say?
I think these questions are simple, clear and deserve answers. Any chance of that happening? I am very willing to listen to your opinions, but I would rather discuss them with you. If you really are concerned about QBID's future and need help deciding if you should sell or hold, maybe we can help with that decision. If you believe QBID shares will soon be worthless, I think your decision is pretty easy. You seem to post late as night, so I won't expect an answer until then.
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PPS has nothing to do with income or cash flow. You won't run out of money if someone is backing your operation.
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The rest are N/A since the second question is only based upon the first one being yes and so on down the line.
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quote:Originally posted by Durple: PPS has nothing to do with income or cash flow. You won't run out of money if someone is backing your operation.
Durple I appreciate your answers to my questions (and you scored 100%). But I am trying to get a response from jackpot. He keeps making statements we know are incorrect, and I keep asking what I believe are legitimate and polite questions, but he won't respond to me. Either he has no answers or he thinks I am being snarky. I will assure him again that I really would like to discuss his concerns with him.
He has admitted he owns shares and is losing money on them, but he doesn't seem to want any support for his misery. We all have owned stock that went down in value after we bought it . . . and "you don't really lose until you sell it" is the only consolation I can offer him. The worst case scenario, in my opinion, is holding a "loser" for a long time, then selling it for a loss just before it spikes to new highs. Now THAT is true misery.
Since most posters on this thread attempt to be honest and polite, maybe jackpot will respond eventually. I don't like fighting with anyone, but I also get very irritated listening to the same whining when I know it's based on lack of factual information.
Sure hope we hear something soon, though. When I get bored, I go outside, work up a sweat and drink a few beers. Too many more boring days, and I will have to renew my membership in AA.
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WOHHHHH !!! my etrade marketcaster shows QBID at .018
WEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!
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no sales over here hehehe .my shares arent even being considered for sale until 3-10 cents. but i am working on four millionth share soon here and counting.
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trying to pick up another 600k @.0018 not filling the order yet.hope to get in it was certainly nice to see what my account will look like when we get over the penny mark.best of luck to all my qbidian freinds and family.
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man sometimes i get this weird feeling that im the only one playing some of my stocks.then all of a sudden everyone is yapping up a storm about one of them and i dont feel like im a total fool hehe.
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quote:Originally posted by noah129: anyone see that fat finger trade my account suddenly showed i was up huge hahahaha one day folks one day.good luck to you all.
noah Are you telling us you "didn't sell" at .018? LOL
Many years ago, I bought a stock based on great financials (excellent cash flow, sales and earnings). Thought I was really lucky when I placed a low-ball buy order at $3.00 and got it. Then I discovered that 99% of the shares were owned by family members who never sold. My 1,000 shares was double the average daily trading volume of the stock. So I immediately placed a GTC sell order for $3.75 (it's 52-week high) and just forgot about it. About a month later I sold it . . . probably to someone like me who didn't do his DD and bought based on financials instead of liquidity. I made a little money, but I was very lucky to do so.
Moral of my story is that none of us will get lucky enough to sell to a "fat finger" bid. But I expect to sell someday when the true bids are much much higher than .018.
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quote:Originally posted by Andy4LSU: fat finger me to death already!
I agree with that. The problem with seeing these fat-finger trades periodically is that we might not recognize a true bid at that price when it comes. But that's okay. When QBID hits .018 for real, can .05 be far behind?
Not pumping, just dreaming.
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i aggree and understand what you are saying exactly.my shares arent even for sale yet not until we hold above a penny then i may start to try and flip a few shares.my inpoint is very close to break even right now i think its at .0022 break even point.i dont mean to mention this in the way of bragging in any way.but even when we hit .0045 i will be up a pretty substantial amount and it will be difficult not to sell into this, but like you and many others i think one day we will really get a bid that holds up above .03 cents and will climb one day to above .30 cents or so .anyway best of luck to you bottomliner i always appreciate your posts and you guys if you trust that what i say is true will trust me when i say im 25 yrs old in the nj / new york area.im totally sold on qbid and i am under accumulation every week.i have 3.4 million and an open order sitting at .0018 for 600k. i cannot wait to meet many of you as i think we will all have a great laugh remembering the times we spent on allstocks message board chatting about the day we became rich. go qtv!!!!
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100000@.018 thats expensive. Does any body know if that trade is valid and will the trader be held to it? B/L, noah, E_S
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quote:Originally posted by noah129: i aggree and understand what you are saying exactly . . . go qtv!!!!
noah You are at the perfect "investing" age. If you make a few mistakes, you still have plenty of time to get back lost money. And if you make the right moves, you have a lot of time left to enjoy the fruits of your investments.
Many people talk about getting rich enough to retire so they can "do nothing for the rest of my life". I am retired and want to be rich enough to "do anything I want for the rest of my life", plus I want my children to be able to fulfill their dreams instead of being locked into jobs that only allow them to survive. If I were your age, I would do exactly what you are doing, and I wish I had found a QBID-type-stock a few years ago.
Looking forward to the Vegas celebration . . . I think there is a World Series of Poker seat with my name on it.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: 100000@.018 thats expensive. Does any body know if that trade is valid and will the trader be held to it? B/L, noah, E_S
DIG I don't know for sure . . . but I doubt if any shares traded hands at .018. One of the roles MMs play is to assure that bids and asks match up. I don't think a bid that is obviously a mistake would be processed. It certainly wouldn't go through on the NYSE. But like I say, I don't know for sure. The actions of MMs still baffle me.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: 100000@.018 thats expensive. Does any body know if that trade is valid and will the trader be held to it? B/L, noah, E_S
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BL Thanks for your input. I know if I made a mistake (fat finger) order, I would want out of it. Thats 1800 bucks.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: 100000@.018 thats expensive. Does any body know if that trade is valid and will the trader be held to it? B/L, noah, E_S
DIG I don't know for sure . . . but I doubt if any shares traded hands at .018. One of the roles MMs play is to assure that bids and asks match up. I don't think a bid that is obviously a mistake would be processed. It certainly wouldn't go through on the NYSE. But like I say, I don't know for sure. The actions of MMs still baffle me.
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I have reached my peak concern in buying more Q. Its almost like an addiction, I have my doubts whether to believe me as I type this. Ido have many thousands of $ on this. Iwill have to be happy with what I can get from this.If it goes up I will wish I bought more, but I have 7,075,000 right now and thats a half a chance to do good. IMO
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Frank, see this chart? See the jump in February of 2004?
That's because of this PR:
quote:Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. Announces Plans To Create Limited Stock Buy Back Program TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2004 7:01 AM - PR Newswire
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Feb 10, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (QBID) President Frank Olsen announces it is currently developing the final details of a stock buy back program. The particulars will be announced over the next several weeks.
In a separate announcement TTN has established an internal deadline to uplink a 24/7 transmission of sample programming by May 1, 2004 for preview and redistribution by cable headends and DDS companies. We are negotiating with several satellite companies to meet this deadline. As part of the TTN launch marketing strategy, our preview feed will also be redistributed to theaters and hotel conference rooms for companies supported functions to allow potential subscriber availability.
Triangle Multimedia is currently in negotiation for a business combination with a television programming company, which has many years of experience and a seasoned television management and creative staff.
Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc. uncertified share info is 15B shares authorized with 7 1/2 B shares outstanding. The company estimates 6000 existing shareholders.
Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. believes its shareholders are part of the company and those shareholders wishing to contact the company are asked to call Monday through Thursday 7-8 AM PST and 2-3 PM PST at 760-323-4199
If you gave us the outstanding share count, then this stock wouldn't be at these levels. This PR worked because it told us how many shares you estimated were outstanding, not because you were doing some sort of "limited buyback". It worked because you had an authorized share count of only 15 billion. Now you have an A/S of 50 billion and expect us to think the real share count is still 7 billion? Give me a break!
How much have you been diluting, Frank? Do you feel responsible for not holding the insiders in line, YET AGAIN. Remember December 2004 when you said that the insiders trading their stocks would stop to keep investors happy? What happened that you lost that control over your own staff?
quote:Our first item will be to restrict the stock holdings of those people considered inside traders and to put an end to the infighting that has taken place among certain investors of the company.
The PPS is directly your fault, because you can't keep them in line. Either that, or you're diluting, so respond. Tell us which it is. Or better yet, give us the outstanding share count and guarantee us that you won't dilute for the next year. Ungag your TA. Retire shares.
And not just some of these things, ALL OF THEM.
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We better get some really nice news soon, like this summer sometime. People are starting to get really tired of waiting and I feel if this drags another few months with no good news people will leave because they expect something. All IMO. GO Q
Dave
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quote:Originally posted by CHIMAN34: We better get some really nice news soon, like this summer sometime. People are starting to get really tired of waiting and I feel if this drags another few months with no good news people will leave because they expect something. All IMO. GO Q
Dave
This thing will not run on news anymore. It will only run if Frank says exactly how many outstanding shares there are, or quits diluting.
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i have already lost in the markets through options ,pennystocks, stocks, and a gambling habit enough$$$ to buy homes for my mother father and myself.but being my age i always figure i dont mind to fail over and over if just once i hit the market big enough to one day do as i please.right now i have put in somewhere around 8k into qbid and quite a bit into a few others that im sorta embarressed to admit.and i plan on putting another 12k into qbid over the next few months.i think that if one were to aquire up to 10-20 million shares of qbid and hold it for this company to come around then one could theoretically retire early.i dont know what will happen but like i said i beleive in qbid i am under accumulation and i pray for lower prices to load up on.i am not a basher or a pumper i just want lots of qbid at the best possible price.im willing to wait too.if it takes two weeks great if it takes five years that would be much longer than i had hoped to wait but i will continue to accumulate.best of luck to you all thanx for hearing a crazy micropennystock junky share their thoughts.
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yahoo got my four millionth share and counting.filled me at .0018 while i was chillin at the pool with my sister.go qtv.im still planning on going to the gay pride parade in nyc this saturday and if i remember i will try and take some photos.but if no photos i will try and describe what i see in regards to qtv's presense.
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quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Bottomliner, You'll have to beat me to that World Series of Poker seat!!!
polo Glad to hear you are a Holdem player. That tells me a lot about your character and your investment strategies (and I agree with both).
I was in Vegas the first week of June and got a chance to visit the World Series site at the Rio. There were a lot of different tourneys going on (Omaha, stud, etc), and I think most were in the early stages. But I was amazed that they allowed me to just wander around among the tables. Got to see many of the pros in action close up and even stood a couple feet away and watched them play. Very interesting. I guess I am a little star-struck, because I was excited about seeing some of my favorite players. Anyway, when I have a little extra money, I want to get into a few of the bigger tournaments and eventually the World Series. I think they will have enough chairs for both of us.
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I've wanted to sit with Johnny Chang ever since watching the movie "Rounders", BL. Then again, maybe that wouldn't be the smartest investment strategy.
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