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I'm confused on this topic. If HISC & HMSC merged, would they still both have 2 different trading names or would they just both trade out of one? How beneficial would this be for HISC as far as stock price?
Also, how low will HISC go before something happens? it doesn't look good so far today...
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Ok i'm confused where did hmsc pop up from? why is this the candidate for a merger? Because they are listed already? Wouldn't it have just been a matter of weeks before hisc would have entered the exchange on it's own? I am I the only one thinking that maybe hisc has bigger plans in mind? Don't they already have a partnership (such as it is) with the king of wall street mergers. (Sprint, Nextel.. Sure there is definately some wistful thinking being applied here (1.8mil shares in at .003) but from what we know about the co haven't we all been saying this is a first class operation and destined for much larger things? Just a little thought.
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It's all speculation. Somebody mentioned HMSC and right away it was a done merger. Actually, HMSC has just bought another company, and nobody has any idea what's going on. Funny how one sentence of speculation can start an uproar.
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I'm thinking along your lines Cyclekitty. Hisc is looking for bigger things than HMSC...IMO.
Just a waiting game now!
And just a thought on my part....now that SB-2 has been withdrawn I would not be suprized to see some financial news soon. Like how well cybertracker may be selling. Just me thinking here. Please don't buy on my thoughts....they usually are not correct....lol.
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HMSC says that they are in the bussiness of accuiring othe companies in the sector, that is the only conection. The only thing I see at this point HISC would gain is the BB listing.
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Thats not technically true fox because hisc would be on the exchange on it's own before a merger could actually take place. Also hmsc does nothing for hisc's share structure. In fact it kinda puts them back, I'm thinking maybe someone is pumping hmsc and using hisc to do it. Could be i'm wrong so take it fwiw. Good Luck Everyone!
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quote:Originally posted by Rules: The PPS dropped cause HISC removed the paperwork for uplisting. Instead they are seeking a company that is already on the BB......cough HMSC.......cough HMSC merger!!!!
You want to know who started this HMSC nonsense?
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I'm putting some emphasis on the second paragraph of the last pr RE: Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc. has begun to pursue other merger and acquisition opportunities with companies already listed on a larger exchange. The desired result would be for Homeland Integrated Security Systems and ActSoft to be traded on that exchange. The desired result. would be for hisc to be trader on a LARGER exchange. A merger of hmsc and hisc WILL NOT cause this to happen. therefore why would anyone think this is even a viable candidate for a merger? I stand by my original thought someone is pumping! jmho.
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cycle I agree. Plus the words "target company" in the same PR. If you are going to merge into a larger company, YOU are the "target". Sounds to me like a target company would be one that YOU are going to take over, not be taken over by it. IMO on this one too. I think somebody just wanted to pump HMSC. I'll wait for a PR announcement, listening to ragchewers doesnt accomplish anything.
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Well after a little more research I find that hmsc is actually cesy. with 5 billion o/s and 20 billion a/s. I am more sure than ever that there is no substance to this rumor. Management has shown they are not idiots and this would be an idiotic move. Hope everyone who played the pump made money cause after all that is why we're here. Good luck to you all!
-------------------- "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance" (Socrates, 470-399 BC) Posts: 406 | From: Michigan | Registered: Jul 2005
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My point was all speculation with HMSC and HISC getting together. Again, I still believe it would be a great match but by no means should anyone assume that I said it was going to happen. It just a theory and a pair I would like to see together. Anyways, for those who knocked the idea of HMSC not having money or the ability to do anything........well..........take a look today and it is only the beginning!
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Thanks Rules, I'm glad you clarified that. I can't imagine why you think this would be a great match though. hisc is shipping a product (a great one by all accounts) They retired 450 million shares, bought back 80M. have spent the entire year getting this stock into the public eye and have generated (according to pr's) over 13Million dollars in sales that are now shipping. As I stated above, They had submitted all the paper required for the bb. they would have made the bb on their own possibly in weeks. why would it be a great match to partner with a co that has a 20 billion share a/s structure? It isn't a good move. Next point is stated above also, they inserted a paragraph that says they want to move to a larger exchange. If they are weeks away from the bb on their own isn't the next step nasdaq or amex? "To get there quicker" was the termimology used. I think we need to look a little higher than a stock that is currently listed at 1000% percent lower than theirs. Again all this is theory, just as yours is, I appriciate all the feedback it's what makes for conversation, trading ideas and theories.
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I think HISC would benefit from HMSC's CEO leadership and his established government connections that I feel is lacking. HMSC has financial backing to allow HISC to grow faster. They have the ability to help each other and together, they would be a serious force. On the other side, who in the Homeland Division could afford to buy up HISC with their shares outstanding bringing the cost to $100 million plus??? So then you have to look for a merger and who in the Homeland Division is there that would be a great match?
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Ok I'll bite, why does it have to be a homeland security co? In all reality isn't hisc in the "Tracking" business? I believe hisc's o/s is around 210M. at todays closing price that is a long way from 100M. Dosen't hisc have a blanket po already? (for financials) Dosen't hisc have a former bush staff member and a former pentagon official already? giving them access to the pentagon and the white house. Wasn't Tenet a keynote speaker for hisc? I just fail to see any advantage to hisc by mergeing with hmsc. I can't see any real upside that hmsc would bring to the table that hisc dosen't already have. I cannot believe that Frank Moody would retract his app for the bb for a merger with hmsc. I could be wrong of course but time will tell.
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Remember, the reported float and the actual float are two different figures. Also know that just like HMSC, HISC has the right to exercise their option to add up to an additional 20 billion shares to the float if needed. Whenever the company releases good news, does the stock go up or down on a regular basis? HISC goes and has been in downward decline. That is not sellers jumping off ship for the most part. It is dilution my friend and Moody does not have to report that unlike HMSC who does! Now back on topic, if you do your DD you will see what McMillen (HMSC) has done in the past with other companies. Then you will also read up on his government connections that Moody (HISC) does not have! Moody retracted his app cause he would have had to report the actual figures to the SEC and to the shareholders making him a reporting company. Remember, the SEC made him go back and state why his company should be uplisted. Instead of getting the stamp of "Denied" he opted to retract his app and go after a faster route. For all we know, Moody has been unloading his shares and setting the company up for sale. Having a family member at the Pentagon, I can truly say that does not equal a connection! You know the old saying, "You can't lead a camel to water?" I think this holds true for those who have not taken a look at how consolidation in one industry is better than becoming fragmented to a point of extinction.
It would be better for HISC to remain in the Homeland Division than to become acquired by an unknown oil company or landscaping corporation. I can't sell you on the idea of HMSC in general so you are not going to want to see them with HISC. Never forget where you came from. What I mean by that is,.....HISC was where just over a year ago? Does HMSC have similar qualities? McMillen took his last company from ground zero to $6 a share prior to leaving. He also brought two successful IPOs to market with two separate companies. IPOs raise money and become instant value for the company that raises them. I could go on and on but I will stop here with HMSC.
HISC has an uphill battle now and they have what I believe are great products with the CyberTracker and CyberSniffer. However, if you break it down, the CyberTracker is nothing different than a GPS locator and the CyberSniffer is a scaled down version of what Sniffex already has. It is going to be interesting to see if Moody jumps at the first opportunity to hold hands with any company that promises him the world.
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damn this stock seems so dead, what is going on? I almost feel like I should of sold around the 8, 9 range, to at least buy back in low in the 3 range to average down... ARGH
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Never catch a falling knife and that is what HISC has been for the past few months if you chart it out. HISC will bounce and stablize in due time but right now I think it is going to continue the free fall to the .01 or under range as we do not have solid buyers.
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doesn't make any sense to me though - they have made so many positive strides in the last 6-9 months, and now it looks like the are very active in making bigger strides, hence the decline of the sec2 form(because of the quiet period) I would think some PR on them either uplisting with another company or something else should help investors confidence... time will tell, but I hope this doesn't dip in the .01 range, when I bought in * .08 - .10 range - unreal
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this stock has dropped below .03 now NOW, I'm starting to get worried and am wondering if I should sell and possibly buy back in if it goes lower? Any opinions on this? This stock has sprouted many grays on my cranium!
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HELLO? Is there any HISC holders out there? The stock dipped in the .002 and nobody is making comments of any type? What is going on with this once promising penny, now looks like it is going to crap!! COME ON PEOPLE!!
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My best advice would be to try and invest more at the best guess (lowest) estimated price to off set your losses. The problem is trying to determine the bottom. Hope this helps.
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(Member Rated: posted February 13, 2006 10:31 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never catch a falling knife and that is what HISC has been for the past few months if you chart it out. HISC will bounce and stablize in due time but right now I think it is going to continue the free fall to the .01 or under range as we do not have solid buyers.)
Looks like Rules may be correct. I never thought this low but to many variables and past Penny stock reputations causing down fall. I am lucky I played this well and only have a good bit of free shares. I have also played this thing atleast 1 time a week for several weeks now. Only making $100 or $200 per time but it still pays well if you get in and out at the right times.
I am still positive on HISC and waiting for good news. You can read into their last PR many ways. I am still positive that they have a big merger agreement under talks. Why else would they pull the SB2 when they were only months from getting off the pinks. I also like that we are not getting all the petty pr's that just cost the company money! Hold them in till we have real news in my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by sev278: HELLO? Is there any HISC holders out there? The stock dipped in the .002 and nobody is making comments of any type? What is going on with this once promising penny, now looks like it is going to crap!! COME ON PEOPLE!!
What would you like us to say? The situation sucks...that about covers it. WHat to do about it? Who knows....
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ed - I was hoping that some had other info like how many buys compare to sells (probably mostly sells I would imagine) and what Moody might have up his sleeve(if anything) with the backout of being uplisted, hoping for some type of PR on this company, so strange that this is happening to HISC, looked so promising, good luck to all who still are holding, I am going to hold for one. COME ON PR!!
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IMO, HISC, HMSC, and all the rest of the security companies should merge into one. Maybe that way something would get done.
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quote:Originally posted by sev278: ed - I was hoping that some had other info like how many buys compare to sells (probably mostly sells I would imagine) and what Moody might have up his sleeve(if anything) with the backout of being uplisted, hoping for some type of PR on this company, so strange that this is happening to HISC, looked so promising, good luck to all who still are holding, I am going to hold for one. COME ON PR!!
Sev you've been here a long time. The reason for the backout was the SEC wanted audited finacials from ActSoft which will take a few months.Being a private company they didnt have to keep those kinds of records. I think we are going to get a PR relating to Nextell selling the CT in the next couple weeks. Remember production is under way and the CT is going to be in the Sprint outlets nation wide.
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from the market millionaie site. I called Big Apple today just to see what they had to say. Was told they have been having meetings this week with a (the?) target company for acquisition/merger. Of course that was about all he could say regarding that. Also said there'd be a press release of some sort this week. It'll probably be more fluff. Sure will be nice to get something more concrete on what they feel the need to pursue or are pursuing, right here right now.
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It is holding on rumors again of a PR. Just beware as it is only temporary as people become impatient. HISC is not going to have a deal this fast and therefore will only state they are in negotiations. So the news will raise more questions and the PPS will drop again. We are not going anywhere until the deal is final and then it remains to be seen in which direction we will go. This is a crap shoot now as we are standing in the middle of the unknown.
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