quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Just for the record i'm for the 6:1 stock deal. If they give it i'll take it. I don't have a problem with it.
6, the TA would not be allowed to say what you said they said legally even if it was true.
The reason you call the TA is for O/S, A/S and float numbers. That is if you are not calling in relation to personal certs.
Personally, I only care for the 6 additional if it effects a problem for the FTDs. Otherwise, I do not care at this time. I reserve the right to change my mind at a later date.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I don't believe you called the T/A. Your message seems totally bogus.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: sceptor, I'm not so sure the T/A guys even know whats going on.
stop with the crap.
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Lets get someone other than you or I to call next. I say you are doing nothing more than reposting something you saw on cshd.net and are in hopes of manipulating the market with it.
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spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
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Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.
Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.
Q I’m not a bond expert, but from what little I do know it would appear that bond ownership could be determine fairly quickly. Is this not the case? A. Our position has not changed. We do not have evidence to support CSHD claims of bond ownership.
Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes.
Q. If you are convinced of it being fraudulent, then how are you protecting investors by letting it continue? A. Its lengthy process and we are not at that stage of the process yet.
Q. So, there is no precedent that would permit you to shut down a company immediately if the fraud was egregious and blatant? A. I would have to reference that question before I could answer it.
This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad!
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You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real important question I have...
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
FWIW- I called integrity about 3 or 4 weeks ago...They didn't know anything about the 6:1 but they also said they couldn't discuss it anyway....and I also asked her if they would have been notified by the company how long would it take to get to the shareholders - she said it all depends on the companies plan - the company lays it all out for them.....
But really - the 6:1 HAS TO happen - the only question is when- trying to find out about the 6:1 right now is the NOT the first priority - as someone once said to me we are on Life Support and worrying about the 6:1 is like worrying about a hang nail.....
We have a lot of things to look forward to coming up - we have Filings, possible PR's, & most importantly we are waiting on am MM so we can go back to the OTCBB.....the 6:1 can wait....not worried it'll come.......IMO
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: spoke to Carla at Integrity I was asking for O/S and A/S she freely gave me the companies phone # and she said that they do not give out that information. "They" have never been informed of the 6:1 FWIW AND? it's also the same info that I was given before the suspension
6digits wins
Wrong. He claimed they told him the 6:1 had been cancelled. they have stated several times to several different people now that no one in their office has ever said that.
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Texas, if she is correct then everyone here has just lost all of the money they have invested (what's left of it) I have no desire to speak to her. She can go straight to HE**.
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: If you have the time, I highly recommend that you give her a call.
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.
Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.
Q I’m not a bond expert, but from what little I do know it would appear that bond ownership could be determine fairly quickly. Is this not the case? A. Our position has not changed. We do not have evidence to support CSHD claims of bond ownership.
Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes.
Q. If you are convinced of it being fraudulent, then how are you protecting investors by letting it continue? A. Its lengthy process and we are not at that stage of the process yet.
Q. So, there is no precedent that would permit you to shut down a company immediately if the fraud was egregious and blatant? A. I would have to reference that question before I could answer it.
This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad!
By the comments you have posted , it sounds like the SEC is still coming after CSHD and Rufus . If CSHD doesn't have a damn good legal counsel , they might consider looking for one pretty darn soon , that or split the country . I've heard Europe is a nice place for scammers this time of year .
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quote:Originally posted by CRab: You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real "important" question I have with regards to the SEC...
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cheer up everyone, at least we have a 10q to look fwd to...i think? well no1 has discussed numbers so i take it we are all just tired of working on cshd...just want siht to get done already..
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
I'll answer my own question......NOTHING!!!!!
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Sorry I did not ask her that. I went into the conversation unprepared and that is one of many questions I wished I would have asked. I recommend we put together a list and have Jenna call her - woman to woman. Hey, who doesn’t like a good cat fight? LOL
quote:Originally posted by CRab: bump for TexasMoney...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: You didn't happen to ask what would constitute "proof" did you? People seem to always forget that question for some reason. That is the only real "important" question I have with regards to the SEC...
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
At this point , she doesn't really need proof . The proof lies upon CSHD to back up what they claim to have . If they cannot , the Judge really has no option but to find for the SEC and grant any and all request they have . Now if CSHD had a attorney present during all of this , CSHD would have a fighting chance . Without one , they might as well forget about it and close the doors .
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postiton also....
Lets all keep in mind the SEC has to prove fraud on the part of CSHD, so far nothing has come of that...IMO the SEC will NEVER admit fault, they will continue to state they believe there accusations are correct forever. They are the prosecution, if you can tell me the last time a prosecuter has admitted that their case was not justified let me know..even if the defendent is found not guilty by the court, the prosecution always remains adamant regarding their accusations...
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The SEC does not investigate a company without complaints...did CSHD file complaints on themselves? Or was it perhaps someone that didn't have enough info, maybe it was someone with some sort of alterior motive? The simple answer is you or I or anyone else here for that matter doesn't know, so don't place blame where it isn't due.
I'm not saying certain things might not have been handled poorly, but I am saying me, you and everyone else needs to realize we aren't seeing the whole picture here.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: NO ONE ELSE .......
quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: Let me preface this first by saying this is only my opinion mixed in with some facts about my conversation with Alana Black this morning.
First off she is a very pleasant women and I think they are trying to do the best they can within the boundaries of the law. She welcomed my questions but cautioned me that she could not share anything that was not already public record.................
.......Q. Then you still believe that its fraud? A. Yes...............
................This Q & A went on for about 15 minutes. Again she is a very pleasant woman, generous with her time, and still adamant about their fraud claim. She did seem open to the idea that CSHD could own the bonds but CSHD could not substantiate their claim to the satisfaction of the SEC. Please keep in mind that this was MY interpretation of the answers to my questions and should not be construed as direct quotes from Alana Black or the SEC.
Long story short, nothing has changed – good or bad!
What bothers me most is that she is taking her time to talk to you regarding this OPEN investigation. She is with the SEC and she is speaking about a company that has it's shares trading publically. This information regarding CSHD is her opinion, and a very important opinion at that. Each and every word out of her mouth has a direct impact on the value of the company, and the current shareholders personal finances. So far her opinion has cost many of us shareholders 80% of our original investment.
If she is not legally bound to keep her yap closed. Somebody, via gag order, should bind it closed legally, until the investigation is over. Morally alone she should respect the current shareholders and their personal investments.
I don't care how nice she seems on the phone, she is in the process of doing a very bad thing to alot of good people.
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I really don't know who has to prove what to whom in this whole mess, and I don't really care. I just wish our company would be the responsible one in this (for the shareholders sake) and prove that they in fact own the bonds (If they do). Also, if our company doesn't have any legal counsel I wish they would get some.
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I want to know what "proof" ms. Black has that they are not owned by CSHD - isn't it her job to prove her postition also....
At this point , she doesn't really need proof . The proof lies upon CSHD to back up what they claim to have . If they cannot , the Judge really has no option but to find for the SEC and grant any and all request they have . Now if CSHD had a attorney present during all of this , CSHD would have a fighting chance . Without one , they might as well forget about it and close the doors .
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As much as I hate to admit it, I believe you are right. The SEC’s claim isn’t proof guilt. The unfortunately reality is that Rufus took a piss in their coffee pot, laughed while they drank it, and now they want to take the long low road to reconciliation.
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I don't care how pleasant she is, she is trying to destroy the company that we have all invested in.
You guys shouldn't be pissed at her for doing her job . She is following the blood trail that all you are choosing to over look . If you should be pissed at anyone , its Dufus . He's the one responcible for this company and the crap we are in . NO ONE ELSE .......
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thesource? Are you TRYING to stir the pot? LOL IMO? the SEC jumped the gun...and now they will not stop until they find something... Jumping the gun? has caused a problem with the shareholders..I can be upset and angry at that... Fraud? Scam? i just don't think so...why would a man(Rufus) put his family in harms way? That is the thing that hits my gut and says no way is it a scam... Could Rufus have been "suckered" into thinking the bonds are "his" and they aren't? Why not? But I don't see Rufus doing this as a scam intentionally!!! Just another opinion that means squat!
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wtf im watching the senate and it says s.3709 lets the president permit expoRT OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS To india....wtf so some countries can have nuclear materials? what happened to disarmament...im not to wise on legislation but can someone tell me wtf is going on
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quote:Originally posted by ClayN: I really don't know who has to prove what to whom in this whole mess, and I don't really care. I just wish our company would be the responsible one in this (for the shareholders sake) and prove that they in fact own the bonds (If they do). Also, if our company doesn't have any legal counsel I wish they would get some.
You are exactly right ...... CSHD needs to take this by the horns and spin it their way . This needs to be done by a professional law firm and not by Rufus going on SPR or hosting BBQ's to brain wash a few guys and let them spread the word through these boards .
If CSHD is innocent , they have to prove it to the SEC , the judge , the loyal kool aid drinkers and most importantly to their future investors . After all , without future investors , we just have a worthless stock because no new cash will come into it .
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Source - Well, CSHD has the proof of bond ownership, they said it many times - so I'm not worried about that part AT ALL
- As far as an attorney goes you are absolutley correct -they need one - I don't care if it is only to turn in a piece of paper....BUT I believe he has a lawyer, Speculation on my part - (maybe) (maybe not)- I think that to be told twice you need a lawyer by a judge and not get one would be really ignorant...& I don't believe Rufus is a stupid man - maybe arrogant- but definetly not stupid- but there's a point when you draw the line & I think it's been drawn -so with that being said......
I'm confident that he has a lawyer because he's too smart not to have one (the third time).
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Q. Is the investigation into CSHD active? A. Yes, very much so. There is a lawsuit pending and I am working on it right now.------- I thought this was an invetigation? when did a lawsuit come up? or did i miss something.
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quote:Originally posted by trade04: wtf im watching the senate and it says s.3709 lets the president permit expoRT OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS To india....wtf so some countries can have nuclear materials? what happened to disarmament...im not to wise on legislation but can someone tell me wtf is going on
Are you really sure you want to know WTF is going on? WTF is with all the WTF's? I'm mean really WTF?
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