quote:Originally posted by wv1973: It's fourth down. The ball's on the 20-yard line and CSHD is out of time-outs. It looks grim for the homwteam. 80 yards to go and only one play remaining. Rufus brings them to the line. The play clock and game clock are essentially the same - 3 - 2 - 1 - Hike. Rufus fades back to pass, but here's a hand-off to Alexander as he streaks around to the left to make an end run around the SEC defense.
Wait, he stops. It's a trick play. He's gonna throw the ball. There's Rufus streaking down the right sideline. He's all alone. Alexander heaves a beautiful spiral. Leads Rufus perfectly. He's got it 50-40-30-20-10-5 --- TOUCHDOWN. OMG IT'S A TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rufus said he would be talking to an MM today. It would be cool to be back to regular trading by the end of the week.
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Fair enough. I totally respect you and Tex’s opinions on this board…I really do. I just wanted to set the college kid comments straight. I thought that was completely unfair because it puts images in other people’s heads.
As I stated earlier, I get frustrated with him sometimes as well. I do think he posts too much because he is loosing credibility when he says “soon” and nothing happens. Hell…I feel guilty because there has been a time or two when I contacted him and said “Do you have any news or words of wisdom for the shareholders because they need to hear from you right about now”. Next thing you know, he posts something…not sure if he was planning to post already or listening to me. My point here is…he wants to help us get through this battle and win the war…and he does consider this a war. We have talked about the Naked Shorting thing a couple of times. He is very passionate about stopping it in this country.
Also, I want to know who he is as much as you guys. I just have to take his word as a man that he knows what is in our best interest at the time. I have asked him a couple of times when we will know who he is and he always pauses for a few seconds…I can tell he is really thinking about it. It’s almost like he wants to tell me more, but he can’t. He tells me that we will all know who he is when the time is right.
Just think of it this way…he is just rallying the troops and attempting to keep the weak hands from selling. That would be bad for all of us. Just like Rufus, Tut has become bigger than life for many shareholders who do not have the time, money, or wherewithal to do their own DD. Like it or not…we need him.
Matthew
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: St. Matt,
Thanks for giving me your opinion of Tut, and everyone elses thoughts on him. I was just a little angry reading another post of his. If he has more than 10% of the company that he owns, and is then an insider, I will understand if he doesn't want to make comments concerning the company. But if he is not, then how exactly can he be giving out inside information, unless one of the insiders are giving it to him? And if you have so much respect for the man's opinion and thoughts and knowledge, then tell me why I should have the same feelings as you.
There is only one thing that will completely legitimize any of the things that he has ever said or will say in the future. One thing.
His name.
Until I know WHO he is, he is just some random guy on the internet, posting his thoughts and stringing us along, and laughing while he watches everyone hanging on his words. I just want to know what I need to do to sign up for my secret decoder ring, so that I can get the same information that seems to have a couple others convinced that Tut is the real deal.
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone here on the board. I am just not buying into anything he says until I have some proof. And my earlier comment that started this whole discussion was just me venting after just waking up and being frustrated at the whole situation. I just want wholesome DD to disect, not empty promises.
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quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: RPH said a long time ago that he had buyers lined up. Perhaps he already has the market makers ready to go?
I've got a "hunch" this is true.....
I'm a few pages back trying to catch up!!!!!!!!
1st Jenna...no need to "look back"...time to move forward.. AND? Rufus was rather clear last night that CSHD would need to have the filings current and ammended BEFORE getting an MM to "sign on"...
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I couldn't have said it better myself...thanks Tax
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why because he wants what more jail time? I think not he was already separated from the company, and he knows if it’s real or not.
If CSHD is a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Mike and Randy turn it back over when they are both major shareholders. They were in position to get their money out. Liquidate the bonds and pay shareholders, and dissolve the company.
If CSHD is not scam but the bonds are not real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why would Rufus do that? The SEC is looking for fake bonds, and someone if not everyone would go to jail for the any lies told.
If CSHD is not a scam and the bonds are real:
Mike and Randy jump ship... Rufus jumps on board? Why...well he was in position to have all the bonds and company to himself, but the contracts and contacts are Rufus’s. The only way to grow Mike’s investment money is to put the captain back on the ship that has the ability and contacts to grow it.
This move whether it was orchestrated or unplanned still has merit. Mike did not have to give up CSHD, and Rufus did not have to join back-on. Proof is in the actions.
As Chart likes to quote... “We are golden.”
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I want to make sure I understand something here... Ultimately the stock should reflect the markets belief that CSHD can invest the money in a way that provides value above the cost of the bonds? These are not assets that CSHD can liquidate and then pay shareholders the value. Do I have that right?
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Good Morning All ... great day for CSHD ... a long time ago, I was commenting on Rufus and how he plays this stock like one plays pool.
I'm visualizing the movie or book, and, I see him orchestrating this stock like he plays pool - always knowing his play, setting himself up for shots by planning his subsequent shots ahead ... anyway, the movie ends, after all the shareholders have had their dream basket over filled ... the movie shows some of the results for shareholders ... the movie ends with Rufus and one of the major players (one of us stockholders) playing a game of pool. Can't wait to see the movie but this "real" thing is even better!
This is an example of what we have heard from TUT etal, there are great things coming - hold tight ... who could have predicted this and yet in hindsight, it makes perfect sense! What next? JMO, GLTA.
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I really hope Rufus wasn't kidding when he made that comment about the final three chapters being played out in the next couple of weeks....something nice and tangible to happen (even if not all)
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FWIW...Rufus' mother has mentioned that Rufus' BD is the 30th of this month a couple of times. I'm listening to the SPR interview now and it was mentioned again (a couple of times). Simon asked him if it would be an important date for CSHD and Rufus laughed and said "could be".
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Anyone find the fact that mirrors are going through a little kooky? Five in a row now, lol?
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I like that we're trading in the .40s range instead of the low.30s and who knows where else it was headed to yesterday.
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St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
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quote:Originally posted by highhopes: I want to make sure I understand something here... Ultimately the stock should reflect the markets belief that CSHD can invest the money in a way that provides value above the cost of the bonds? These are not assets that CSHD can liquidate and then pay shareholders the value. Do I have that right?
An asset is an asset... if they are 100% owner like the documents state. Then they can be cashed in. I believe Rufus pointed out that this violates all the contracts to do so, and it was not worth it to proove to a couple of people that something is actually there, but it is possible, but with out seeing the original contracts it is hard to tell what the penalty could be. Like signing over your house with stips. Person could trash your house, burn it, or sell it out from under you. But what are the stips of the contract? 95% payback in the event? 120% payback in the event?
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No...I have not talked to James lately. My guess is he has been very busy and was probably asked to lay low while putting together the shareholder committee. Most of the inner circle people have been very quiet for 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by mo-rydr: St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
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highhopes ~ Another example is some farm land I own in Illinois. I don't live there, and I don't farm. But I allow a farmer there in the area plant and harvest off the property. He pays me a percentage of what he makes off the end product, and I use it to pay the taxes.
I can't just kick him off the property next year, our contract provides him with a time frame, and he can't set-up an oil well, or sell it. He does not have the rights, but he can use the land as an asset when he goes to get money because of the acerage he has available to him.
Bonds are a lot more complicated but it is treated like a living breating asset.
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I’ve been relentlessly torturing the iHub “bash club” this morning. There’s quite a few others over there silencing these idiots too.
I told “Our-Creep” that Uncle RICO was looking for him and haven’t seen him post since. If that guy died today maggots wouldn’t even touch his sick ass.
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This makes me question my understanding of the how we are trading right now. As in; who is facilitating the trades, who decides the prices, who decides who gets which shares?
It's confusing...
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No not TMI! But one more dumb question...Don't the bonds have a preferred position in case of liquidation? Posts: 75 | From: Rochester | Registered: Oct 2006
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I believe that is the case if they have been loaned out more than once. I do not know about these bonds. If the true owner is contractually Conversion Solutions then there would have to be a "prefered position" if he was to loan the bond out to another entity.
Once again this is where knowledge of the contracts would help.
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TaxBack, Thanks so much for helping. I really appreciate you helping me understand it more. I bought at 2.50 and have been holding strong ever since. Thanks for the research and the guidance. Posts: 75 | From: Rochester | Registered: Oct 2006
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quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: No...I have not talked to James lately. My guess is he has been very busy and was probably asked to lay low while putting together the shareholder committee. Most of the inner circle people have been very quiet for 2 weeks.
quote:Originally posted by mo-rydr: St Matt - It looks like Rufus has gotten out the anointing oil to make James the chairman of the shareholders' commitee. Have you talked to James lately and how does this affect the structure of the elected rep's?
And how is the progress towards having this election? Just wondering.
Thanks St Matt, I hope that you get elected to the committee and move into the 'inner circle'. It would be nice for this board to have someone 'in the know' that can help keep the speculation on track.
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