quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: BTW, I'm out of this thread. I feel like I need to shower, after talking about such a dirty, unscrupulous company.
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Kevinbailey -- I see your frustration. You obviously been losing money betting on football where you have limited knowledge and now you're scared your stock pick is wrong. boo hoo.
In fact, the Sugar Bowl was played in the mighty Ga. Bulldogs backyard. We came into your house and pushed you around.
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You sound like a person with big time "sellers remorse". You know there is a cure for that. BUY THE CRAP OUT OF IT!
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: BTW, I'm out of this thread. I feel like I need to shower, after talking about such a dirty, unscrupulous company.
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Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
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quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: hey repoman.... who wo the sugar bowl last yr? didn't the sec champ play? didn't ga beat fl, lsu, auburn,tenn? again...who beat ga? do u have oldtimers?
Another dolt.
How do I post pics without URLs?
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quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Kevinbailey -- I see your frustration. You obviously been losing money betting on football where you have limited knowledge and now you're scared your stock pick is wrong. boo hoo.
In fact, the Sugar Bowl was played in the mighty Ga. Bulldogs backyard. We came into your house and pushed you around.
I have to jump in on this one...WV has a very good team, but the SEC is definately a very strong conference year in and year out, and unfortunately, any team can win on any given day, and that leads us to often have a team as the champion that may not be the best overall. Not saying that was the case with Georgia, but I think that LSU may very well be one of the best this year - even more so than Florida or Auburn (and I am wearing an AU shirt BTW) - and they won't have a shot at the title...probably not even the West crown.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You sound like a person with big time "sellers remorse". You know there is a cure for that. BUY THE CRAP OUT OF IT!
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: BTW, I'm out of this thread. I feel like I need to shower, after talking about such a dirty, unscrupulous company.
I've never played this stock. It seems like a PoS, so I'm steering clear.
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Not that that wasn't a great game... but thought people might be interested in the exact SEC rules CSHD and RPH are being charged with breaking from the original complaint. I think I got them all. Correct me, if I am wrong. These rules are listed in item 3 and 4 of the Complaint summary. Item one say they filed and PR'd false statements claimed, Conversion owns or controls the entirety of two seperate bond issues $500M, and $5B respectively.
Item 2 says RPH knew about the statements false or misleading statements or recklessly disregarded their danger.
Anyway thought this would at least provide us with the legal definitions from the SEC ACT of 1934. Let's try this...
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
quote:10b-5 § 240.10b-5 Employment of manipulative and deceptive devices. It shall be unlawful for any person, directly or indirectly, by the use of any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce, or of the mails or of any facility of any national securities exchange,
(a) To employ any device, scheme, or artifice to defraud,
(b) To make any untrue statement of a material fact or to omit to state a material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in the light of the circumstances under which they were made, not misleading, or
(c) To engage in any act, practice, or course of business which operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon any person, in connection with the purchase or sale of any security.
quote:12b-20 § 240.12b-20 Additional information. In addition to the information expressly required to be included in a statement or report, there shall be added such further material information, if any, as may be necessary to make the required statements, in the light of the circumstances under which they are made not misleading.
quote:13a-1 § 240.13a-1 Requirements of annual reports. Every issuer having securities registered pursuant to section 12 of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78l) shall file an annual report on the appropriate form authorized or prescribed therefor for each fiscal year after the last full fiscal year for which financial statements were filed in its registration statement. Annual reports shall be filed within the period specified in the appropriate form.
quote:13a-11 § 240.13a-11 Current reports on Form 8–K (§249.308 of this chapter). (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, every registrant subject to §240.13a–1 shall file a current report on Form 8–K within the period specified in that form unless substantially the same information as that required by Form 8–K has been previously reported by the registrant.
(b) This section shall not apply to foreign governments, foreign private issuers required to make reports on Form 6–K (17 CFR 249.306) pursuant to §240.13a–16, issuers of American Depositary Receipts for securities of any foreign issuer, or investment companies required to file reports pursuant to §270.30b1–1 of this chapter under the Investment Company Act of 1940, except where such investment companies are required to file notice of a blackout period pursuant to §245.104 of this chapter.
(c) No failure to file a report on Form 8–K that is required solely pursuant to Item 1.01, 1.02, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 4.02(a), 5.02(e) or 6.03 of Form 8–K shall be deemed to be a violation of 15 U.S.C. 78j(b) and §240.10b–5.
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Rufus Paul Harris
quote:10b-5 § 240.10b-5 Employment of manipulative and deceptive devices. It shall be unlawful for any person, directly or indirectly, by the use of any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce, or of the mails or of any facility of any national securities exchange,
(a) To employ any device, scheme, or artifice to defraud,
(b) To make any untrue statement of a material fact or to omit to state a material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in the light of the circumstances under which they were made, not misleading, or
(c) To engage in any act, practice, or course of business which operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon any person, in connection with the purchase or sale of any security.
quote:12b-20 § 240.12b-20 Additional information. In addition to the information expressly required to be included in a statement or report, there shall be added such further material information, if any, as may be necessary to make the required statements, in the light of the circumstances under which they are made not misleading.
quote:13a-1 § 240.13a-1 Requirements of annual reports. Every issuer having securities registered pursuant to section 12 of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78l) shall file an annual report on the appropriate form authorized or prescribed therefor for each fiscal year after the last full fiscal year for which financial statements were filed in its registration statement. Annual reports shall be filed within the period specified in the appropriate form.
quote:13a-11 § 240.13a-11 Current reports on Form 8–K (§249.308 of this chapter). (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, every registrant subject to §240.13a–1 shall file a current report on Form 8–K within the period specified in that form unless substantially the same information as that required by Form 8–K has been previously reported by the registrant.
(b) This section shall not apply to foreign governments, foreign private issuers required to make reports on Form 6–K (17 CFR 249.306) pursuant to §240.13a–16, issuers of American Depositary Receipts for securities of any foreign issuer, or investment companies required to file reports pursuant to §270.30b1–1 of this chapter under the Investment Company Act of 1940, except where such investment companies are required to file notice of a blackout period pursuant to §245.104 of this chapter.
(c) No failure to file a report on Form 8–K that is required solely pursuant to Item 1.01, 1.02, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 4.02(a), 5.02(e) or 6.03 of Form 8–K shall be deemed to be a violation of 15 U.S.C. 78j(b) and §240.10b–5.
quote:13a-14 § 240.13a-14 Certification of disclosure in annual and quarterly reports. (a) Each report, including transition reports, filed on Form 10–Q, Form 10–QSB, Form 10–K, Form 10–KSB, Form 20–F or Form 40–F (§§249.308a, 249.308b, 249.310, 249.310b, 249.220f or 249.240f of this chapter) under section 13(a) of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78m(a)), other than a report filed by an Asset-Backed Issuer (as defined in §229.1101 of this chapter) or a report on Form 20–F filed under §240.13a–19, must include certifications in the form specified in the applicable exhibit filing requirements of such report and such certifications must be filed as an exhibit to such report.
Each principal executive and principal financial officer of the issuer, or persons performing similar functions, at the time of filing of the report must sign a certification.
(b) Each periodic report containing financial statements filed by an issuer pursuant to section 13(a) of the Act (15 U.S.C. 78m(a)) must be accompanied by the certifications required by Section 1350 of Chapter 63 of Title 18 of the United States Code (18 U.S.C. 1350) and such certifications must be furnished as an exhibit to such report as specified in the applicable exhibit requirements for such report. Each principal executive and principal financial officer of the issuer (or equivalent thereof) must sign a certification. This requirement may be satisfied by a single certification signed by an issuer's principal executive and principal financial officers.
(c) A person required to provide a certification specified in paragraph (a), (b) or (d) of this section may not have the certification signed on his or her behalf pursuant to a power of attorney or other form of confirming authority.
(d) Each annual report and transition report filed on Form 10–K (§249.310 of this chapter) by an asset-backed issuer under section 13(a) of the Act
(15 U.S.C. 78m(a)) must include a certification in the form specified in the applicable exhibit filing requirements of such report and such certification must be filed as an exhibit to such report. Terms used in paragraphs (d) and (e) of this section have the same meaning as in Item 1101 of Regulation AB (§229.1101 of this chapter).
(e) With respect to asset-backed issuers, the certification required by paragraph (d) of this section must be signed by either:
(1) The senior officer in charge of securitization of the depositor if the depositor is signing the report; or
(2) The senior officer in charge of the servicing function of the servicer if the servicer is signing the report on behalf of the issuing entity. If multiple servicers are involved in servicing the pool assets, the senior officer in charge of the servicing function of the master servicer (or entity performing the equivalent function) must sign if a representative of the servicer is to sign the report on behalf of the issuing entity.
(f) The certification requirements of this section do not apply to XBRL-Related Documents, as defined in §232.11 of this chapter.
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repo -- i think he got you confused with another poster.
kevinbailey -- you just have to learn to sit back and see how a stock plays out -- sort of like seeing the southeast conference get its behind beat in the sugar bowl.
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quote:Originally posted by TexasMoney: You sound like a person with big time "sellers remorse". You know there is a cure for that. BUY THE CRAP OUT OF IT!
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: BTW, I'm out of this thread. I feel like I need to shower, after talking about such a dirty, unscrupulous company.
I've never played this stock. It seems like a PoS, so I'm steering clear.
You missed out on some nice money then....may seem like a PoS to you now, but you need to do some DD first.
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As much rationality as someone who doesn't own the stock, nor interested in buying it, yet comes into a message forum to discuss it. Umm, OK. No soup for you! NEXT!
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
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Sherri -- I agree. I was just bustin' his chops because he came in with such disdain and no respect for other conferences. I have all the respect in the world for the Southeast conference year in and year out.
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quote:Originally posted by wv1973: repo -- i think he got you confused with another poster.
kevinbailey -- you just have to learn to sit back and see how a stock plays out -- sort of like seeing the southeast conference get its behind beat in the sugar bowl.
I hope we go undefeated and play Texas.... love to beat those hillbillies from the South!
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How's this for a "basis" It ran from .20 to $4.00 for about a 2000% gain. Think you could make any money on that? LOL.
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
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quote:Originally posted by wv1973: Sherri -- I agree. I was just bustin' his chops because he came in with such disdain and no respect for other conferences. I have all the respect in the world for the Southeast conference year in and year out.
We're cool
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quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: BTW, I'm out of this thread. I feel like I need to shower, after talking about such a dirty, unscrupulous company.
Haha, i never even knew you were here. Are you sure youre not lost?
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: How's this for a "basis" It ran from .20 to $4.00 for about a 2000% gain. Think you could make any money on that? LOL.
quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
Yeah, Doni - if I'd sold and bought back in more than I did
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quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
The most definable reason I can come up with is that they have such a huge ROI if things pan out the way our research says it should.
The down side is that maybe it is a scam. If is is then yeah, we will lose all of our investment, however there is a lot and I do mean a LOT of information that points to it being for real. Personally I think it is worth throwing some money at. If you or anyone else feels differently, then you should should avoid this stock (and those like it) like a plague.
I truly wish you well in your decisions, and I feel comfortable in my own. If I'm wrong then I have only lost what I am comfortable in losing, and I hope you can say thing same thing for your own.
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quote:Originally posted by coollbreezz: isn't oldtimers and alzheimers the same... dementia? get a grip..he he
Sorry, I do actually take offense to that. Not every old person has alzheimers, and when you watch someone you love suffer with it for more than 20 years, it is nothing to joke about....that said, I would appreciate if we kindly refrain from that subject.
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quote:Originally posted by kevinbailey: Okay, a serious question: why do you all love these kinds of stocks so much? There seems to be no basis in rationality for buying into the hype surrounding it.
These kinds of stocks? Please elaborate....what "kind" of stock is this? Im curious to know what type of DD you have done to come to the conclusion that its a POS as well. Most of the people on this board did not buy into the "hype" surrounding it.
There seems to be no basis in rationality for your post
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Can someone explain to me how a trade for 47288 shares happens when you are trading on the Grey Sheets? I was under the impression that this was a "Trading Blind" type of scenario where TraderA says I have X number of shares that I am willing to sell for X amount of money per share, and at the same time there happens to be a TraderB who has a buy request for the exact same number of shares at the exact same price per share.
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Can someone explain to me how a trade for 47288 shares happens when you are trading on the Grey Sheets? I was under the impression that this was a "Trading Blind" type of scenario where TraderA says I have X number of shares that I am willing to sell for X amount of money per share, and at the same time there happens to be a TraderB who has a buy request for the exact same number of shares at the exact same price per share.
Spooky...that's how I understood it also!
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Well now that this board has deteriorated to my other passion, let's not forget the lowly Big 10, where the National Champ will come from and will have 3 teams ranked in the Top 10 by years end. Come on Rufus and crew, give us a nugget so we can get back to what's really life and death (making megabucks in CSHD).
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