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Relevant to CSHD? not that I've found tonight. I really wish Rufus would have either avoided that post or given some more information. Leaving it like he did is not helpfull

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what was the post?

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The post 10of13 aluded to a bit ago:

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Today, 05:49 PM #4307
RufusPaulHarris
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 71 EuroClear was a no show at 1:00 conference. He He

Will update as we move forward.
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Rufus Paul Harris
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Tex - Where did you leave off I will try to give you the run down without you reading a bunch of pages....

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What I'm "late to the party" about is signficance... what does this "mean," one way or another?

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What I'm "late to the party" about is signficance... what does this "mean," one way or another?

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Haven't seen anything I would call even plausible in that regard yet.

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What I'm "late to the party" about is signficance... what does this "mean," one way or another?

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Haven't seen anything I would call even plausible in that regard yet.

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so why the costernation?

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SPR on October 30th
Thanks Spooky, Tax, Chart, Fhal and a couple of others...
~Simon: move to NASDAQ?
Rufus: Not gonna comment on that right now
~R: Delist is just another step in the SEC process
~R: We got to tackle one horse at a time. Right now the SEC is our hourse.
~R: The delist is related to the investigation.
~R: He is pulling the comment on the SEC requesting a settlement. Today was a deposition.
~R: SEC wants to bury the company to bury the short sales. They want to draw focus away from it.
~R: The questioning today gave him the feel that they were a bit scared that they(SEC) might have made a mistake.
~R: said at the meeting that one of his officers told him the SEC wanted to settle and he said it was a misunderstanding
~R: Says they (sec) have made a HUGE mistake that they made (not believeing the bonds), but thinks that they will try to slap some minor thing on him to save face, like speaking without a PR out.
~R: Maurice is not an SEC attourney he is a criminal attourney. He is the man Rufus leanson when he is dealing with criminals. Did not take an attourney with him because he had not recieved a single document from the SEC before court, and he would not do that to an attourney.
~R: They are not on Defense, they are on Offense and he wants tigers at this stage of the game.
~R: wants to prove to a Bulldog attorney that everything is real and that they will go after the SEC, wants them to not be afraid, says he wants to take them to court for the short selling and that this is the best thing for us that could have happened.
~R: He is going to file a motion against the SEC and is going to ask for a Congressional hearing to lookinto the illegal short selling of the stock.
~R: He ga ave them porthole login into Euroclear
~R: Euroclear delivers their depo to the SEC at 1PM EST tomorrow.
~R: Nothing that has been presented has been frawd. Look at the Darkside of the looking glass.
~R: And when I said you would remember my name for the rest of your life. I meant it you little short hairs. You will remember me for the rest of your life.

S: Have you recieved a C&D from D Bank?

R: No, I have not recieved a C&D from D Bank
~R: SEC wants this company to go away. They are not looking into anything.

R: Anthony was right when he described the Delist/Relist. I do not know Anthony. He is not on the payroll
~He was very pleased with what Judge said and did, told judge he had a ton of respect for him.
~R: We got the best possible senario they could out of the first hearing. Who is to say it would have come out that way if I had representation?

R: Bill Hicks said if you have 7.2B you have no worries.

S: Is there any relation to former GA Gov. Joe Frank Harris?
R: Rufus said no comment.
~R: If you are an investor you need to ask why are they doing this?

R: Why would RPH make documents public months in advance?

S: Wondering why Tim Miles wouldn't go check out the files at GA Court web site?

R: No we have not recieved a C&D from Lehman Bros. They do not have anything to do with the note
~Georgia web site..

R: Why would I go and put all that stuff there?
So they can arrest me quicker? So give them a reason to arrest me? GIVE them proof?!!
Doesn't make sense for me to do that if I'm a fraud...
~Will CSHD resume trading Nov 8th...

R: I don't know.. Would like it sooner
~R: Stands behind the $12.60.

S: Are there any negative reprocussions to forming a shareholder committee? Give up their right to sue? ect.
R: No, no, no... just a way to participate in the company activities.
~R: Use your voice... draw attention to this.
R: Do you think if i was comitting frawd that I would want national attention? That is some illogical chit!
~R: This is going to be a Congressional issue.
~R: This is going to be big and I am glad you are all on the books
~Q will we be a graysheet stock?
A I don't want it to trade until clear, that's what they want, is us to go away. They want to lock my ass up! We are in court and we won't stop.
~R: We have found out some neat little stuff about Timothy Miles. Should be some interesting stuff happening there.
S: Can you promise to not allow this to trade as a Gray Sheet.
R: I am going to request that it does not trade until this is straightened out.
S: You are going to ask them not to allow the stock to trade.
R: That is true. I want it to trade aa a reputible company again.
R: It would be harmful to the shareholders if they allow it to open anything less than where it was before the investigation.
~R: Is going to ask for restitution for false claims.
S: Did you just threaten Timothy Miles?
R: Did I?
R: I think I have threatend lots of people. it is not a threaten, it is a promise.
~said the movement is started..
Others have gitten DTCC lists and compared the numbers (to NOBO) and are seeing they don't add up...
Mark your calendar siad Rufus, this is the start of the change.
~S: I think I should invest in ADP.
R: I don't know about that when the first file they sent me was in triplicate? They haven't done that since.
S: Do you think you are acting in the shareholers best interest.
R: (long answer) yes I do.
~Rufus has enough college credit hours from the Air Force to qualify for a degree, but does not have a formal degree.
~S: CVSU stock that Furia owns are they in offshore accounts?
R: No, no way Furia does not have any off shore accounts.
J: Total count 13M
R: james you have enough of a percentage for the comittee.
S: Now what?
R: They need to vote for three share holders to represent them.
~S: Can these three get insider info?
R: No it does not work that way. Information does not go through them.
~S: Shareholders want a $10 dividend. Could they put it up for a vote?
R: Yes anything you want, you get it to the three individuals. They do not hear back until after the board vote.
~S: Will the three sit on the board?
R: No they will report to the board, not sit on it.
R: There will be committee members that will be added.
R: Now the commeitee member will be privy to the insider info. They will be paid members.
~J: I need Ben's email address so he can forward info.
R: BenStanley*CSHD.com
S: If people think the shareholder comittee is illegal. Where would you send them?
R: the Internet
~S: What should shareholders look for next.
R: Look around it is happening. Look for congressional hearings. Senator probes. Companies looking to know who their shareholders are.
S: What happens if a short is unable to cover because of financial reasons. What chapter 11? Will that save them?
R: Pray for them. You can't just go after one of them. Once the ball starts rolling you can't stop it.
~S: Everyone is liable. Do you mean liquidation of everyones assets?
R: I don't know. They are bleeding right now. They are screaming right now.
R: No one has calculated the average weight volumes since this thing started. Who has it? I know I don't have it. CSHD does not have it? Who has it?
~S: Can you give your estimate for when the stock will resume trading and the stock PPS estimate?
R: I do not know. ASAP As soon as it is possible following the SEC investigation.
S: Have CEO's been giving you a call about the suit.
R: Yes I have had several. they say thay are CEO of this such and such corporation and I see that you are stopping this NSS. Can you help.
~S: would you team up with other companies
R: Oh yeah now... Where were you when this started? Jump on the bandwagon.
S: Where do you see this at Christmas this year?
R: Two JVs funded by end of DEC, PPS? aaah I don't know. It is going to be crazy after this.
S: I have concerns that this will be drawn out with suits and counter suits. Are you worried?
R: No. The SEC's case is based on the bonds being Frawd and they are not.
~S: The first day could be on or before Nov 7th
R: God be willing.
R: I am going to be wrapping this up pretty quickly.
S: Are you concerned that the stock would be revoked.
R: For that to happen the bonds would have to be a frawd. And that sir they are not.
~S: If people have two accounts do they have their name on the NOBO multiple times.
R: That could be people with multiple types of accounts.
R: NOBO is a way for us to find out what is out in the market.
S: Reorg shares still there?
R: Yes we can not pull that back. Just on hold til this SEC thing is over.
~S: Is rufus excited about people showing up for the hearing.
R: Yes.
S: Does the company have any DNO Ins.
R: No.
S: Is that something you in hindsight now regret.
R: No... We have billions in bonds why do we need Ins?
~S: Do you think you will move the company from keneshaw to Dallas?
R: I have no doubt about that. It's Gods Country.
S: Allstocks is listening tonight... (My input )
R: Ben Stanley has a meeting with them tomorrow, and Euroclear has a depo with them. After that there is nothing scheduled till the 7th.
S: Please do not let Tut post things from Ben on HSM. it is confusing and hersay information.
R: i am not aware of what Tut is posting. Ben does not give out insider info. I am sure it is just Tut's feeling from the conversations.
~S: Is there a plan for any Press release, news or events before the 7th?
R: Yes.
S: Do you mind shareholders contacting the media regarding the Investigation?
R: I don't mind if all the media is on this.
R: Use your voice.
R: I am the true definition of a Georgia Bulldog. We do not let go until you cut the head off. And then you still have to pry the jaws off.
R: I would bring over a Euroclear expert if their investigation comes up different.

R: 14C I want to address that... you are asuming that shareholders are the majority shareholder. that is not that case at the

R: H&S did send us a C&D through efax. And we talked to a couple of people. Was it from them? I never talked to the guy on the bottom. I talked to Steven Canady, and told him "Dude, you can't send a C&D on this. You would be comitting security frawd. He never said that he sent it. They do not know for sure where it came from.
R: Mensah has been difficult to find and serve. I have heard he has been served at this time. He has not served us.
S: Either we hit a home run and provide proof of the bonds, or we are done on Nov 7th. True or False.
R: True.

~There may be more but I was goin' to bed...

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At some point each of us will need to do a gut check to remember which parts of our own research caused us to buy and hold a position in CSHD. For some that point is past due.

If you bought CSHD based solely on the vibe and posts of this board, you are a foolish investor and deserve whatever fortune Lady Luck throws your way. Next time, take your money to Vegas and at least get free drinks.

If your attitude about this stock teeters between euphoria and disgust based on a post/PR, or lack thereof, you should not have reached this point. However, you did and you will be forced to endure the unfolding events along with the rest of us; but don't blame anyone but yourself.

None of us can predict the future. We do our best to uncover and absorb all available information in an effort to make the best possible decisions for ourselves and our families. It is unrealistic to expect to be able to foresee every turn in the road in a play like this. We are involved in something much bigger than a swing play or a quick buck. I know some (most) people here have been trained to think that way as it is the nature of trading high risk penny stocks. If you have been following along at all, though, you would have known that this is not that type of play.

The risk here is no higher than any other penny but the reward is perceived to be exponentially higher. That alone make this a good deal and that is precisely the reason we are all here. For the risk of losing the same money we might have invested and lost in any number of other stocks, we have bought a ticket for something potentially life changing for many people. You bought the dream in addition to the stock. Admit it and be comfortable in your decision.

Finally I will suggest to everyone to keep your eyes on the bigger picture. For all the speculation I see about how this SEC investigation might turn out I think some people have forgotten that there are powerful people watching these proceedings, people that want to see a victory for Rufus and CSHD. Forget the SEC thing, it will be over soon enough.

In today's business climate, who would you rather have working for you, a brilliant CEO or a connected one. Maybe Rufus is a little of both but I will take the connections any day. Take some time to really get into the political climate in Georgia. You will discover, two common threads, a deep devotion to religion and a heaping helping of cronyism. The deeper you dig the more you will see how these folks stick together. They will not let one of their own burn.

For all the information we get from PRs, 8Ks and the Rufus blatherings on HSM, there is more information we simply cannot see, insider info, things that must be kept secret until the time is right. There are strategies and contingency plans that have been developed over the last two years. Let the CSHD management execute their plan without causing them more grief than is already inherent in the business in which they are engaged. You gave them your money, now let them work for you.

Hang in there through these uncertain times and we'll get some information soon. Maybe not as soon as some would like but the game being played here does not revolve around the Christmas money you got tied up in here. Things will happen when they happen and no sooner. The only thing we can do in the mean time is continue following any leads presented to us, continue raising public awareness, and, most of all, maintain a sense of civility toward each other.

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Humble,

not looking for a fight, but that post sounds like a walk the long way around the building...

are you saying shareholders bought a lotto ticket, so they should calm down? [/QB]

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Tax - So in other words, Euroclear will not be "Bullied" by the SEC?

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Tax - So in other words, Euroclear will not be "Bullied" by the SEC?

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Let me give you a bit of the picture as I know it. As Dog put it so well about a week ago. Euroclear is high finance.

"If the Treasury Department wants to fund an ailing government. They transfer the funds through Euroclear."

How would the regulating body of the U.S. Security markets have any authority over this system. And they subpeaoned them? Who is going to arrest them? God?

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LOL...
Wait...IF NO ONE can "dis-prove" that CSHD owns the bonds... This whole thing is tossed out the window? That's what Rufus was "he heing" and would let us know as "we" move forward?
(this is where you might put Jenna's siggy~"It's so simple, It's stupid!")
The only problem would then be getting an MM to believe that CSHD owns the bond...

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Tax - So in other words, Euroclear will not be "Bullied" by the SEC?

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Let me give you a bit of the picture as I know it. As Dog put it so well about a week ago. Euroclear is high finance.

"If the Treasury Department wants to fund an ailing government. They transfer the funds through Euroclear."

How would the regulating body of the U.S. Security markets have any authority over this system. And they subpeaoned them? Who is going to arrest them? God?

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10...I agree with you to a point .... My question to you and everyone here is "What good can possibly come out of Euroclear not showing up to support our case ? I believe that not showing up for a deposition can only hurt our case. I think all of you know how much I hope I am wrong but I pray there is some type of explanation. For Rufus to say what he did today without explaining is borderline cruel All I can say is PLEASE Rufus "Go easy on us"

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Tex says: Humble,

not looking for a fight, but that post sounds like a walk the long way around the building...

are you saying shareholders bought a lotto ticket, so they should calm down?

funny question Tex...

the way i read it? every single stock play isand always has been a lotto ticket...

read your brokers agreements....

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Humble's post...he sums it up...in the last few sentences..
Hang in there through these uncertain times and we'll get some information soon. Maybe not as soon as some would like but the game being played here does not revolve around the Christmas money you got tied up in here. Things will happen when they happen and no sooner. The only thing we can do in the mean time is continue following any leads presented to us, continue raising public awareness, and, most of all, maintain a sense of civility toward each other.

And the very spelled out..
In My Humble Opinion...

AND? yeah...lottery ticket...we are just waiting on the numbers to be drawn...

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Maybe not as soon as some would like but the game being played here does not revolve around the Christmas money you got tied up in here.

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A lotto ticket implies dumb luck. If that is why you bought this stock then refer to my previous post.

I have done enough research to be comfortable in my own position and I simply wish that for everyone else.

The truth is we just don't know right now what the future will hold and can only rely on the excellent DD to date.

None of what we have learned has changed just because of the SEC complaint. In fact, it seems to be validating itself as the proceedings move along. And yet impatience is getting the better of some people and causing them to jump to false conclusions.

Calm down? If you have to calm down there is an implication that emotion is creeping into your business decision, and that is usually not a positive thing in this market.

... In My humble Opinion [/QB]

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