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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Spooky: [QB] Hrm I missed this one when it came out... It is slamming CSHD. Forgive me if it was brought up before.
Personally, my shares are staying where they are for the forseeable future because I actually believe in this company. I only post this to make sure the board is aware of it.
Spooky, I believe Wally posted something about this article a few days ago. It is basically biased trash. The author clearly has, or had an agenda. This board had already done DD on all of this crap weeks ago.
That's what is great about this group of people...once something has been uncovered, investigated, discussed (sometimes argued), and verified as fact by someone on this board, it is pretty much put to bed. That is why I did not include a copy of the article in this response...I did not want to waste anyones time with it.
No offense...you were not sure we had seen it and your contribution is appreciated. Welcome aboard.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Here's an interesting concept from Tygrepath in HSM. Guys I was driving to work this am and was thinking about all the things that have been said..all the Pieces of the puzzle".... rufus has said "hes gonna do something that has never been done" and "scr*w the shorters" tut has said "beyond our wildest dreams" and the other night sabre said "rock wall street" she also said that everything was timing & in the best interest of the shareholders..... other pieces are dividend date 10/13 that no one can explain BV 0f 74/75 with a reset of 15 this is what I think...we open monday with 10k split 5 for 1 (justifying the 75 value to reset of 15 and unexplained dividend date) scr* the shorters 5 to 1..never been done before...all in the best interest of the shareholders!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWHHHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! (there I said it) Could rufus pull it off?? would he? Has it ever been done b4 ..IT makes everything thats been said make sense!!! And if 10/13 was the divi date that explains why the 10k would be filed after close......whadda ya think
that sounds like logic for rufas to do something like that I can only hope so,
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Just checking in... got a little frustrated listening to all the wild date speculation on Friday... Hopefully a bit of that has been resolved.
I have to comment on that thought Doc... I have a good deal of experience in the pennies. I don't know everything, but I am sure there is a rule about splits, and that they have to be announced. Either forward or reverse they need to be annouced a certain amount of time in advance. I think it is a minimum of 10 days, but until I go research it again I will just say that I know there are rules.
Anyway it is good to think about how this is going to play out. It should help you understand market reaction when things really get moving.
Hope all are enjoying their weekend. I know I am.
See you all Monday or sooner if I find the rules I am going to look for again.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Here's an interesting concept from Tygrepath in HSM. Guys I was driving to work this am and was thinking about all the things that have been said..all the Pieces of the puzzle".... rufus has said "hes gonna do something that has never been done" and "scr*w the shorters" tut has said "beyond our wildest dreams" and the other night sabre said "rock wall street" she also said that everything was timing & in the best interest of the shareholders..... other pieces are dividend date 10/13 that no one can explain BV 0f 74/75 with a reset of 15 this is what I think...we open monday with 10k split 5 for 1 (justifying the 75 value to reset of 15 and unexplained dividend date) scr* the shorters 5 to 1..never been done before...all in the best interest of the shareholders!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWHHHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! (there I said it) Could rufus pull it off?? would he? Has it ever been done b4 ..IT makes everything thats been said make sense!!! And if 10/13 was the divi date that explains why the 10k would be filed after close......whadda ya think
Nice scenario he's layed out there hey doc. Man I believe if that happened it would completely blow everybody's wildest dreams away. I don't see it happening but would love it to happen that way.
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Spooky, I believe Wally posted something about this article a few days ago. It is basically biased trash. The author clearly has, or had an agenda. This board had already done DD on all of this crap weeks ago.
That's what is great about this group of people...once something has been uncovered, investigated, discussed (sometimes argued), and verified as fact by someone on this board, it is pretty much put to bed. That is why I did not include a copy of the article in this response...I did not want to waste anyones time with it.
No offense...you were not sure we had seen it and your contribution is appreciated. Welcome aboard.
None taken, sorry for digging up old news. Thanks for the welcome
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Does anybody know the timeframe the reset has to occur in after the finalization of the reverse merger? What are the rules governing the reset. My biggist fear right now is that the 10K comes out monday and the halt and reset does not happen til the 10Q or who knows when. I mean right now we have a justifiable price of over $7. And we are still stuck in pennyland over $2. Can Rufus get the pps to climb with a 10k that already has most of the stuff in it that is already out there in 8ks and PRs. I just hope the reset "one fell swoop" plan is still hinging on the 10k.
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thanks alot tax I was going to be dreaming tonight and tomorrow night of holding over 100k shares worth at least 15 bucks a piece. Thanks for P'ing in my cheerios. j/k
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Here's an interesting concept from Tygrepath in HSM. Guys I was driving to work this am and was thinking about all the things that have been said..all the Pieces of the puzzle".... rufus has said "hes gonna do something that has never been done" and "scr*w the shorters" tut has said "beyond our wildest dreams" and the other night sabre said "rock wall street" she also said that everything was timing & in the best interest of the shareholders..... other pieces are dividend date 10/13 that no one can explain BV 0f 74/75 with a reset of 15 this is what I think...we open monday with 10k split 5 for 1 (justifying the 75 value to reset of 15 and unexplained dividend date) scr* the shorters 5 to 1..never been done before...all in the best interest of the shareholders!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWHHHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! (there I said it) Could rufus pull it off?? would he? Has it ever been done b4 ..IT makes everything thats been said make sense!!! And if 10/13 was the divi date that explains why the 10k would be filed after close......whadda ya think
Nice scenario he's layed out there hey doc. Man I believe if that happened it would completely blow everybody's wildest dreams away. I don't see it happening but would love it to happen that way.
And if he did do the split, he would have to have more than 900 mil put aside incase everyone sold, right?
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I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THIS SENARIO jmoe! a more gradual rise to $15 is better for the stock long term any way and I have felt for a while now Rufus has shifted gears in that regard.
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Rate Member posted October 14, 2006 11:25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello All,
I'm new to this board, but have been watching in the past couple of weeks. I was back in the beginning when this stock was FHAL and was at .075 cents a share. At that time i saw the great trucking news it had regarding doubling its fleet and saw this as a great opportunity to double my money. I bought 8000 shares (wish i held onto them all now ) cause i'd have some dough to play with. I ended up being in the right stock as the merger news came out with CSHD. I sold my shares at $1.03 about 2 months ago? Just trying to make a quick buck and not risk losing it all. I then bought 1000 shares and ive been holding long ever since. I've been watching this all along. THe ups downs, and finally got lucky and bought some more shares when it dipped a couple of days ago to 1.87 (extremely lucky price to get into). Now im here for the ride whether it be good or bad i'm standing by all of you and stretching this stock out to its max. Monday will be the day we will all see this stock explode hopefully off the 10k news to 5-7$ range. I believe the reset will happen when the 10Q comes out, but look for the stock to barrell up to the 7-10$ range before then. Everyone has been in anticipation of the 10K all from the start. Millions of people have sold due to not seeing the 10K on time. Rufus filed the extension and some bought back in others stayed on the side line to watch. When this 10K comes out all the lies and swirls around the stock will be erased and many many people, companies will buy back in, shorts will cover and this stock will soar. Good luck to all and stay on for the ride, I'm sure we will all love our results.... and hey, even if the 10K doesn't come out, i'm sure we all can say we have never made a trade like this in our life... THis is definately a once in a lifetime trade evne already going from .10 centes to $4, it rarely ever happens. Everyone deserves not to be stressed after watching this stock go so hi in such a short period of time. Relax, watch some football, drink some beer and have a great weekend. I'll talk to you all on monday!
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OT: Dollar, this poster that you mention has some issues if nothing else. She continues to go from board to board and "gets herself banned" but always whines that it is someone else's fault (usually always allstocks fault) She apparently reads this board often, she often makes mention of "us"... she is trouble and it is quite sad, I heard she use to be "good" before going to the darkside or where ever it is that she has landed. It would be nice if she would stop her ranting and take pride in herself and perhaps post some useful and intelligent information instead of the rants...and Manure she slings...because she truly continues to look the fool (shaking my had and having pity
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For anyone who's interested, subpennyradio is currently replaying the TUT, Rufus, Sabra interview. Mike shows up too in about 15 mins if I remember correctly.
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quote:Originally posted by LucidLight: Does anybody know the timeframe the reset has to occur in after the finalization of the reverse merger? What are the rules governing the reset. My biggist fear right now is that the 10K comes out monday and the halt and reset does not happen til the 10Q or who knows when. I mean right now we have a justifiable price of over $7. And we are still stuck in pennyland over $2. Can Rufus get the pps to climb with a 10k that already has most of the stuff in it that is already out there in 8ks and PRs. I just hope the reset "one fell swoop" plan is still hinging on the 10k.
The halt that is being talked about is a halt for news.
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Rufus has stated many times the scenario. It's 10K, Halt, reset the price. Nothing was ever mentioned about a 10Q needing to be filed prior to the reset.
GLTA Wally
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you are right 10of13 , i remember her BS in XKEM board and i think NDOL board was the other one.
Her influence to the investors seems to work i dont know why, CSHD? for some reason her posts are (bad/good)(and sink the PPS) ,you remember what she did at XKEM board ...
Posted by: r7315 In reply to: None Date:10/14/2006 2:35:54 PM Post #of 2187
Naked shorting in other countries being stopped...
Posted by: ground_fog In reply to: None Date:10/14/2006 1:07:12 PM Post #of 14445
Naked Shorting and Fails Around the World, US Embarrassed Again
Location: ****s Bud Burrell - Front and Center Posted by: bburrell 10/13/2006 1:46 PM
Japan has announced it is going to Straight Through Processing, and India is doing the same, moving to T+0 shortly. Now it is reported by reliable sources that markets in Europe are shutting down all new naked shorting, and related fails, and forcing gradual liquidation of existing fails.
A company I work with is filing an application for listing on the Offex in London. That Company has been informed that the Offex (similar to our Pink Sheets here) will not permit naked shorting, nor allow fails to deliver.
The AIM market in London is adopting the same rules according to this source, linked to a study began in 2001 by the FSA. The UK has adopted these rules across the board.
Germany has moved to stop all new naked shorting on its exchanges, and is forcing a gradual workout of existing fails.
Switzerland has enforced three day settlement for years without wavering. They don't look very stupid right now.
India's SEBI rejected the DTCC model for its custody system, and permits neither naked shorting nor fails.
Japan's JASDEC has announced it is moving to straight through processing.
So the US and its markets' and regulators' positions on these matters are being roundly rejected globally.
I said some months ago the issue is no longer in doubt. Either the US fixes this horse manure here, or they will not be able to trade in other global environments.
The line forms at the left for the rotten vegetables to be thrown at our pigs. We can always hope they will try to seek retribution against those opposing them. I would personally welcome such an event as a "Retirement Moment", one I can live on and enjoy till I die.
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A world without Naked Shorting and we WILL be rich!!
Those that don't know about naked shorting or FTD's, death spirals and other BS that goes on, please click link below, The "BIG PICTURE" nice little video "THEY" don't want you to see!!!
-stepping out for a night on the town, -with Rufus and Ben, rat and myself...
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Wally ... I think that's HUGE!!
A world without Naked Shorting and we WILL be rich!!
Those that don't know about naked shorting or FTD's, death spirals and other BS that goes on, please click link below, The "BIG PICTURE" nice little video "THEY" don't want you to see!!!
-stepping out for a night on the town, -with Rufus and Ben, rat and myself...
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Rufus $5 billion Republican fund raising DD
Ok, I know most people probably missed this in the latest Interview with Rufus, Sabra, Tut and Mike on SPR. When asked about the $5 billion he raised, Rufus, stated something like: "No comment. But I'll tell you what, if you can figure out anything about the Israeli R & R Programs you may learn something."
Like I said he stated this real quickly and it was hard to understand at first. Well I Found this url on Google about a Reasoning and Rehabilitation (R & R) program in the state of Georgia for The Israeli Police forces in helping them deal with terrorist who are incarcerrated in Israeli Prisons. Here is the link. Search it for "Israeli". Just another piece of the ouzzle: http://www.state.ga.us/cjcc/pdf/2002_byrne_ar.pdfPosts: 383 | Registered: Apr 2006
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never found much info on powerhouse funding. according to a rufus statement sabra was the ceo i believe. some kind of loan operation. ~BB
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it appeared that she was running another georgia corporation in the same or similiar business, is chsd one of her "clients" ? i don't know just curious. hope you all hit the big time with this one monday. GLTA.
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Well I just finsihed listening to the rerun of the interview on SPR. Rufus, Sabra, Tut, and Mike basically layed out the entire business plan straight forward. Wow ! I am impressed. Here is the business plan from what I understand it.
- Groups such as H & M Foundation, Cacacus Group etc actually give CSHD these billions of dollars in bonds. CSHD owns these bond, and never has to pay back any of these funds. They are CSHD's assets without liability what-so-ever. Rufus now, as of the last 8k has $9.4 billion in assets under contract. He is looking to up this to $15 billion and may have already done so. If CSHD is ever broken up, each shareholder would be entitled to $94 per share (soon to be $150) in assets.
- Now, you ask, why would these groups give Rufus these huge bonds. This is how it works. CSHD is an asset management company. They take these assets and use them to fund the various large projects they have deals for. Ecowood, AISS, huge government contracts etc. These new projects become separate entities/corporations and go public with shares. Now, this is what the Foundations giving the bonds receive. They receive 40% of the shares in the new spinoff company(s) that their funds were used for. The other 60% of these shares go to us the CSHD shareholders as spinoff shares. The group also receive 40% of the bonds interest they earn (in most cases).
- Now you see that both parties, the CSHD shareholders, and the groups giving the funds to CSHD benefit in big ways. This business plan is genious, and in order for the bond holders to relinquish their bonds in full and give full ownership to CSHD, these deals they have must be huge!
- Also I wanted to clear something up. The merger deal relinquishes Mike Alexanders 51 million shares, and he is then given 14 million shares of the new company. Rufus stated this in the interview and I beleive this is in the merger agreement .
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