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With the stock watch BS article...at least it is on a weekend instead of the week so that we don't see some massive selloff, hopefully all that read it will be able to do a little research and not get freaked out. Come on Rufus and Company...let's get 'er done!
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Jmoe20, welcome! Just wondering why you believe the reset won't happen until the 10Q comes out. I believe Rufus has always stated it would happen with the 10K.
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quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Good to be here! After watching everyone swirl their thoughts around, i figured I'd throw another shareholder in the mix who has been here since the beginning. I just want to let you know that their is MANY of us out there just like me who are not on this board! We are not alone!!
-not alone?...
Suppose I have to have PANTS on now while I post... -bummer.. jk-ing!
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quote: Don't get too complacent, I for one, thought we would have a nice quiet weekend before the inevitable happenings on Monday. Speaking overall not just this board. But get ready. Here's something I found tonight so so you know what's going on out there.
Insert s t o c k w a t c h where the ***** are without the spaces.
GLTA Wally I read it and greatly enjoyed A Surfers post. I took journalism in college and I don't think that scrawl would get even a passing grade. It was biased to the point that it needed to be labled an op/ed piece just to be fair.
But maybe that was the point.
Either way, the deal is done in a few days one way or another.
Stay strong, stay long!
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There are a lot of us lurking out there that never posted for the longest time. My father turned me on to the stock (FHAL) and this board, and neither one of us posted for a long time. To everyone else, lurking out there. . .
COME IN FROM THE COLD!
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quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: Jmoe20, welcome! Just wondering why you believe the reset won't happen until the 10Q comes out. I believe Rufus has always stated it would happen with the 10K.
I would definitly disagree with the reset not happening until 10q. Rufus has made it very clear that the reset will be after the 10k. JMO
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Hi guys, i have one question. If the reset happens, are we going to just suddenly open at the new price or are we going to climb up to it until we eventually hit the market equilibrium ... if that makes any sense ... sorry i am still new ... and thanks
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I don't believe that Rufus ever stated exactly when the reset would come...simply after the 10k...and he has also stated that there may be no reason for a reset...time will tell...I do think that the 10Q will drive the price even higher... but the 10Q is another month away..let's get the 10k!
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If there is a reset..let's say 15...it will be the market that decides how high or how low it will be after that reset...it's supply and demand...if the peeps that hold now before the reset want out...you can bet the stock will fall fairly fast after the reset...Rufus stated that he has institutional buyers waiting to come in at that point...and that may be what is needed to hold the reset price. We will need to see what the "market" says at that time...
quote:Originally posted by kcool: Hi guys, i have one question. If the reset happens, are we going to just suddenly open at the new price or are we going to climb up to it until we eventually hit the market equilibrium ... if that makes any sense ... sorry i am still new ... and thanks
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Just a thought, the only reason i believe that is because the 10K has basically everything that the 8K a couple weeks ago had in it, just with a few added bonuses !! It very well could come out on monday, but i believe Rufus may want this stock to hit $5 on its own without the reset taking place, so that he could prove to the Nasdaq that his stock does not need a reset to trade on the NASD. If he resets the price to $15 and everyone decides to sell because they have huge profits it's going to drive the price way down, and then gradually rise again with PR's, by not doing the reset on monday he will drive the price to AT LEAST high $4-$6 range just by the 10K being released. After this a few PR's out and its smooth sailing up to $7-10 range. Then the reset might allow him to post higher than $15 as the stock may already be around $7-10... Just my thoughts.
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And Rufus it seems wasn't just blowing wind with the institutional investors thing...
[recent PR]
September 27, 2006 - 9:12 AM EST
Conversion Solutions Announce the Completion of the Banking Platform for Our Global, Sovereign and Institutional Investors KENNESAW, Ga., Sept. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation updated shareholders.
The corporation has obtained contracts from the following banks Deutche Bank, ABN Amro Bank, Dresdner Bank and Kommerce Bank. The mentioned banks will be the foundation for our project funding platform.
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Lemme rephrase that sentence, does not need the reset to be over the minimum trading requirements for the NASD... this puppy can hit $5-10 on its own without a reset, and Rufus knows this.
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also rufus said in an interview (one of them) that the institutional buyers will begin to purchase after the 5 dollar mark, something about the main buyers not being able to purchase until we hit 5 bucks, my opinion is that he has been silent somewhat so the price will not move up until he is ready, I think monday is our day...cant wait........ Posts: 572 | From: usa | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: From HSM...SABRA
SABRA HSM Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3 CSHD appreciates ALL the shareholders support and loyalty. I know that there are many questions and concerns but I can assure you that the decisions that WE are making are in the BEST INTEREST of the SHAREHOLDERS. We hope you all have a WONDERFUL WEEKEND and I am sure I will be talking to you on MONDAY!
I tell ya after talking to her today you realize she has the personality to get er done.
I was wholly impressed.
The funny thing is I feel like even when we get the 10k/reset on Monday that this will only be the middle chapter to our epic novel. There is much more to come. At least I am sure if they get this reset and move to nasdaq done I won't be selling any time soon.
I couldn't agree more Surf...Sabra is the real deal. This company is just beginning to make things happen. Have a good weekend everyone...
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quote:Originally posted by lostone: does Tut still hold credibility among the majority of us? Not for me though.. I thought he was an insider.. his DD's so far are speculation, no matter how good, he never really provided links (at least i don't recall).. BB, Matt, Wally, and others are more reliable.. anyway, so i guess it's monday.. i've been thinking lately that i should have sold at least half position when it was near 4.. but o well.. might as well stay for the whole ride now.. I think i'm falling out of love with this one..
I would have to say that after listening to him on SPR (a couple of times), I was pretty impressed. I felt as if there was so much he wanted to tell us, but could not.
He is just a guy who happens to purchase stocks for a living...him and his partners. He is really pumped up about this one. He reminds me of my uncle in Houston who runs the UNICEF office down there. This guy has met Kings and Queens, Presidents and Prime Ministers, actors and actresses, all kinds of important people. Not sure why I lumped actors and actresses in the important people pile, but I digress.
Anyway, he hangs out with George Bush Sr. all the time. Yet, this man would do anything to help people out if he felt they deserved it. I think Tut is very similar. With everything he knows about the inner workings of the markets; he just couldn't stand to see the MM's and bashers destroy people’s dreams. I believe that he knows this is a once in a lifetime deal and does not want anyone to miss out. He just can't verbalize all of what he knows (for fear of getting in trouble)...hence the repetitive motivational speeches.
BTW...he is planning on starting a new Cancer charity after this is done (with some of his proceeds). If this pans out for us, maybe we should look into helping him out...as he has attempted to so for us. I know we will all need some tax relief...
am tempted to say, "I don't like this post."
will say, please read carefully...
I catch your drift.
One might think that's about TUT but in reality it's about St. Matthew's Uncle.
GLTA Wally
It's not really ABOUT anyone...JMHO
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quote:Originally posted by bilgert: Yeah, no offense St. Matthew, but that post is almost as confusing as one of Tut's actual postings.
Sorry about that...I had a very stressful day at work and a massive headache at the time, and I was late picking up my daughter...didn't mean to confuse, imply or offend...JMHO.
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quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: soooo... good job on the calls and getting through... but, has anyone asked sandra when the reset will take place? the next trading day? a halt mid-day then straight to 15? will there be a halt for a few days then open? if someone could, call her and ask that... i'm more interested in that than which day is the "correct" filing date...
bump... and whoever is calling ask about the reset... thanks in advance
so.... did anyone end up asking this question to sabra or anyone else at Conversion... or did ppl call and just ask one question and that one being about the 10k?
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quote:Originally posted by jmoe20: Just a thought, the only reason i believe that is because the 10K has basically everything that the 8K a couple weeks ago had in it, just with a few added bonuses !! It very well could come out on monday, but i believe Rufus may want this stock to hit $5 on its own without the reset taking place, so that he could prove to the Nasdaq that his stock does not need a reset to trade on the NASD. If he resets the price to $15 and everyone decides to sell because they have huge profits it's going to drive the price way down, and then gradually rise again with PR's, by not doing the reset on monday he will drive the price to AT LEAST high $4-$6 range just by the 10K being released. After this a few PR's out and its smooth sailing up to $7-10 range. Then the reset might allow him to post higher than $15 as the stock may already be around $7-10... Just my thoughts.
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Hey guys/gals , this is my 1st post here and I'm a share holder for CSHD as well . I've been on HSM but don't like the fact that if you ask a question or question certain things , that makes you a basher . Hope this site is different and hope we all make a ton of cash Monday !!!
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From HSM: I listened to this first hand, but couldn't hear very well. For those who didn't listen I suggest you read. I don't know how I have missed it this long:
Oct 10th, 2006, 10:19 PM #2 Flipperbw HSM Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,447 Tut interview on Subpennyradio 10/8. Joining later are Rufus Paul Harris, Sabra Dabbs, and Mike Alexander.
thanks to Dad_Roman for helping me compile this.
- Tut has 20+ years in the financial industry, been involved in numerous other companies
q: are you a shareholder in CSHD?
a: yes, i am, my GROUPS are shareholders.
is not an insider.
- "put it this way, WE have just done some very very thorough due diligence. it doesnt stop with filings, it looks into all the factors involved, for example my reference to the republican party, scientific world foundation (UN is involved)."
can you give insight on what you meant by "teams" ?
a: i don't think its necessary, i have a number of groups im associated with. we arent involved with conversion in any kind of consulting or management way, we have just done very deep and serious due diligence.
in my business, we are from time to time involved in many different public company ventures. we will invest in what we feel are potentially very good opportunities for us. we've had a number of very successful ones, here with conversion, we saw another one.
- says we do a lot of DD, almost overanalyzing, we're all missing the big picture in our DD
- LOOK AT THE 8k filings. go by the 8k filings, go by the interviews. they tell you everything. look at the bigger picture behind this. look at what's involved behind the scenes, rufus is involved with the repub party, raises billions for it, it was for the 9/11 cleanup.
- everyone will be fine, doesnt matter where you hold your certs
"if you want to get access to CVSU's online site, better to have your certs registered in your names"
if you can't do t he Cert thing with your broker, MOVE brokers. but you will still be covered, when it comes to DIVIDENDS, you'll be fine.
"a short will have sold to a short will have sold to a legit shareholder. The ftd's have to be covered in the end. it may sound complex but in the end, it's the final shareholder than has to be covered. literally, you will have a short squeeze. but also, the squeeze is secondary. primary is building of the corp, it's growing extremely fast. NINE BILLION assets to date."
-if the company continues to grow at the pace it is now, i wouldnt even want to throw out figures. the opportunities are almost unlimited with the speed it's growing at now.
- take a look at awards he was given by the repub party, look where the bonds originate out of, the euroclear. there is a lot more financial and POLITICAL power behind this
-company is in reverse merger process, in some ways, it is very similar to IPO. at this stage of the game, the company is with all its filings, every single filing is under a microscope by all the authorities. it's not possible for it to be a scam at this point. when stated that the reset price was $15, the SEC definitely asked PROVE that you can do that.
so for it to be approved, means this has to be real. everything you file is under a microscope before it goes through, many questions asks. you better have the right answers. at that stage, you cant fool the SEC, no matter what you do.
- the final 10k release, the final price reset will complete the merger.
- rufus has nothing to gain here, they can't sell their shares when it is reset.
- how can rufus raise billions in bonds? VERY VERY powerful connections
- goals on a worldwide level will become more and more evident, bigger than it may seem. 10k will be first step in that process. it will reveal TRUE intentions.
- q: scenario seems far too massive to accomplish on own. is it possible they are just a face of a much larger faction, working together? a: good q, briefly touched there already. obviously for someone like rufus to raise the kinds of funds he is, there are some OTHER, very very financially powerful people involved, no question. has connections worldwide, thats becoming fairly obvious. because of his goals in certain worlds and with certain political events, he is able to attract the kind of money that he is.
- this is why i laid that one clue out: trilateral...think about that again.
- what i meant by that, we were talking about powers behind the scenes, whatever ends it may be, world peace, reconstructing countries, stronger powers that are looking for the same goals. because of his connections with those powers and the same philosophies, he is able to attract those powers to help him acheive his ends.
- q: why so much focus on the short squeeze elimination? why not just do what youre going to do? a: as far as the short squeeze goes, rufus knows he has to battle that, same interests that hurt him in broadband. may be more far reaching than we know about right now. this is NOT just a short squeeze, but they are a very very serious enemy here, and they have to be wiped out.
- q: why are you so interested in helping the average shareholder? a: I came into this quite by accident. i've been involved in the fight against the naked shorting over the last few years, but in this case here i, first of all, i normally don't frequent stock forums, this was fairly new to me, the more i got to know the people, I started to take it more personally, its almost as if they became family. and right now, i just want to do what i can to help the shareholders that yes something can be done. all shareholders have the opportunity of a lifetime that they may never see agin. better their lives, their familiy's lives, and they deserve it.
- the brokerage firms would love you to sell if they are short. they might be the ones buying to cover.
tut is saying what TDA is doing is illegal. __________________ Yí qiè yan kàn jiang yào shì qing...
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,447 - one thing everyone has to realize, you are paying the broker for a service, theyre your employee. they have to follow your order. theyre working for you, dont forget that.
- tut was in very similar situation over a year ago. he bought stock in an OTCBB stock that had very serious short position, he wanted delivery of stock. he was beginning to get run around by his broker, saying it would take a while, and he had enough. he got in touch with supervisors, and demanded delivery, said he would take legal action. by pushing for it, and you have legal rights, his shares were delivered.
- rufus is going about the short elimintion in the right way. barriers, unexpected. but he has a plan, rufus is no dummy. he knows what hes doing, i believe hes going to be very successful. (repeats) this is not a SS. when reset happens, there will be a forced ss anyway, k? look at where company is going, rufus has talked enough about it. take it all into consideration. he has some of biggest internatonal banking powers involved.
- q: what is the relevance of the "nephew of the richest man in the world" to the company? a: to that, i will have to say no comment. put it this way, another way of answering is that rufus has very powerful connections, top dignitaries around the world.
- DTing in my experience is the second worst thing next to shorting that hurts companies. if you see a good situation, forget daytrading. in the end, instead of making 2 grand daytrading, you could see the potential to make what could possibly change your life. im going to get some flak on that, I know that.
- he says if people were holding strong, we'd be seeing a pps near the book value
-------enter rufus and sabra---------
- RUFUS DOES NOT KNOW WHO TUT IS
- Rufus, Sabra Dabbs, Tut all on the phone. Sabra is exec VP of humanitarian, she is part of conversion solutions.
- asks question again to rufus about nephew of richest man in the world:
rufus and sabra laugh. they are looking at joint venture WITH HIS UNCLE!!!!
THATS THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD, CSHD is discussing JV with them..
- tut is asked what his expectations are in the future, he says look at growth and speed, he thinks the potential is phenominal. cant pin it down to a share value at this point, except look at assets to date. to date, 9 billion in assets. 72-77 dollar book value.
RUFUS JUMPS In, says MORE THAN THAT.....but he says that is correct. he mentions $15 billion in assets....
they have contracted up to $15 billion, they have not processed them yet. can only process so much at a time...
- rufus: ben stanley and us are working with select MM, what next step is and so and so.
- q: in one of your interviews, you wanted to do everything in one fell swoop. 10k, reset, nasdaq. still want to do that?
rufus a: it has been our goal from day 1 to go straight onto nasdaq. it is the companys goal, they are trying to acheive that. they must maintain more than $50 million market cap for 10 days consecutive, COMPANY HAS ACHIEVED that.
tut: so cshd is ready?
rufus: that is what we are negotiating with the MM for.
- talking about daytrading: rufus says you could be caught with your pants down. lots of people think it creates volume and liquidity... iwant to ask, what are you trading?
- rufus says lots of waatle shares coming into market now
- "can you hint at timeline right now?" also "can you help shareholders understand the potential?"
rufus: majority of waatle shareholders are in. if they went ahead without waatle shareholders ready, there would be problems. (understandable). says they gave them 10 days from press release (how long has it been?)
thats the main holdup we've been waiting on.
- new adp list, but ADP isnt always on time, do not panic.
------enter mike alexander------
- talking about sabra and mike's interaction, they know each other for a very long time.
- q:still on target for big event this week?
two things happened. everyone has flown in to georgia, we've had meetings. some people will be here tomorrow(monday), finalize, shake hands, seal documents.
- current market cap of CSHD is in excess of 100 million. trigger point was a buck 73.
- 138 million range for market cap
- mike says company will be phenominally successful
- mike saying contracts with institional investors should probably be in 10k as well. mike seems to be giving rufus advice here. 10k gives you opportunity to "flaunt" your company.
- the 10k has audited documents of Fronthaul, fronthaul is gone. section following that, with additional notes at what timeframe, current BOOK VALUE, but those financials will NOT BE AUDITED....from the time of june 30th and today they will not be audited.
the bonds on euroclear will be disclosed.
- 10k post june 30th financials will be disclosed but not audited...i imagine 10q will have that __________________ Yí qiè yan kàn jiang yào shì qing...
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,447 - mike is asking rufus: what is trigger point when this jack*ss MM's say "we've lost...we gotta start covering these damn shares. rufus kicked our *ss."
rufus: you dont see a battle?
mike: i do...
rufus: everybody, look at whats going on. why so much negativity?
mike: everyone here knows SEC has not done their job. if they did, itd be at over 70.
rufus: at this point, at the time merger agreement was signed, that was IT.
mike: can we beat these jack*sses?
rufus: theyre already beaten.
sabra: beaten.
rufus: taking them a long time to realize, high end brokers are watching it.
mike: do you want people to get certs from brokers
rufus: recommend that you show up on ADP list (we know the rest)
tut: my recommendation was to get them in their names, brokerages HAVE to do that.
rufus: yes, its illegal to not.
mike: you had me at hello. you knew your sh*t. you knew more than i knew. I thank god every day for meeting sabra who brought me to you guys. we can hand it to the shorting brokerage housing *******s.
- rufus says at the beginning, 15 dollars was good. but now that you see potential, you want a reset of 50 dollars. 15 dollars is what the merger says.
mike: when you said 15 per share for my shareholders, i said "where do i sign." (refers to him as "sir") this team will take this company VERY far. thats why I'm long.
- tut is jumping in here: short squeeze is not primary purpose, but the SS, in my understanding, i believe the SS happens with price reset.
rufus: no, thats the short elimination.
- rufus: as of the 29th, no company can LEGALLY hold a short position in this stock. from that point it doesnt matter if nasdaq or otcbb
- reaction to rapid decline in PPS thurs and fri?
rufus: doesnt concern me...
mike: there's a term we've come to know. "it is what it is."
- tut: how far away are we now from 10k/halt/price reset?
within a week. we're waiting on ADP list we requested on the 29th. they told sabra two different stories, first it was from the past, now for future weeks. it should be in their hands on monday.
mike: adp's reputation is shot...
berlin exange question.
tut: practically anyone has the ability to call berlin exchange and say heres a company, take a look at it, and theyll put it on. its very simple, its disgusting.
rufus: and they can affect share price that way.
rufus says hes pretty sure theyre gonna start buying on the berlin exchange, it closed higher on the berlin exchange on friday than it did in the US
- ADP does not handle payroll processing. they complete everything in house. their next step is to bring their own TA in so you can trade through the company on a direct
- legal deadline for 10k...is it friday or monday?
rufus: laughs. if it is not filed, it WOULD be cshde. the deadline is the 15th, falls on a weekend, so its Monday
- everything that's been 8k'ed or pr'ed, they are going to put that in the 10k.
- IF option b is chosen from the merger agreement, shareholders have to give up shares. it was put in as a failsafe.
- about the dividend thing on that website
says "if dividend were to happen, it could happen" likely its not. its not a big deal, mike says. dont DD it, it's kind of a waste
- if you bought after 29th, there will be a PR saying that these are the people you contact to get your shares
- there WILL be a change in the market – rufus
- theyre talking about liabilities now. mike says rufus is a genious, talks about all the things that he's doing with the assets.
- how can you have an asset with no liability?
rufus: wheres the liability?
mike: if i have a billion and give it to rufus, wheres the liability there?
- tut: what are your plans for monday (10/9)?
rufus: meet with caracas group, 4 or 5 meetings with people about these deals.
- why did mike alexander end up with a trillion dollar deal?
mike: because mike alexander is a sneaky SOB. (lol) I said, when the time is right, ill bring my amazon stuff to you, we'll get these losers out of the way (mm's) and we'll get logs from the amazon river. took me a bit longer to actually get a license from brazil, but rufus has the deal. its his deal.
- powerhouse funding: sabra was CEO. one of companies that got her here today.
phfinc.com is site.
- directed to tut: how did you know about various 8ks and pr's?
he says i havent been able to predict them, its based on my due diligence, I expected certain things at certain times.
he says the things he said "fit the timeline....."
- tut asks: when can we expect halt, reset, potential of company?
rufus: (tired) youll see it...in prs and filings.
- how does rufus plan to eliminate shorts without option b in the merger agreement?
mike: merger is complete. new options now.
rufus: it's been done as of the 29th. its over, its done. __________________ Yí qiè yan kàn jiang yào shì qing...
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Oct 10th, 2006, 10:21 PM #5 Flipperbw HSM Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,447 mike: its finished.
- google was a big deal.
MIKE: GOOGLE IS AN INFANT COMPARED TO WHAT YOUVE GOT
CSHD is going to blow every other company out of the water, in my opinion -mike
- mike: they think its too good to be true.
- tut: rufus, i have a question. do you foresee a forward split down the road?
rufus; i foresee the stock splitting multiple times.
mike: its a no brainer.
potential is high enough to see forward splits?
rufus: very easily.
- each subsidiary, each JV will get its own symbol, and every shareholder will get shares in those companies.
- diversified portfolio in one stock.
- when will site be updated with new ADP?
if we get it on monday, if ADP is on time....
mike: who gives a flying f*ck about adp? who cares?
- rufus: when everybody has their shares, watch where we go next. have a bottle of champane ready, and sit back. you will have no more questions.
- mike: its bullsh*t shares on the ask right now. theyre selling air.
- rufus: if it goes over 5 bucks, then it hits a whole new range of investors...we've been approached by large corporations
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- Talking about nephew again of richest man
- Could be a huge deal
- Also mentioned that many deals could happen, dont have time to address it right now, could happen soon but cant return all the phone calls
- Talking about brokers again, how they have to legally give the investor what they deserve in terms of value per share, otherwise you have the right to sue.
- In other words, you all are entitled to your money
- Simon: Tut seems to know what he is talking about. Question asked, whether Rufus is certain that he can guarantee 15 dollars per share.
Rufus: Its already done. Documents already received...everything in motion. September 13th official merger completion date. It was done then.
*** - Simon: If Market Makers control price of stock, how will the reset actually work if MMS control both the bid and the ask?
Rufus: In this particular merger, it is an aquisition. Fronthaul aquired CVSU b/c Fronthaul was public, CVSU was private. Fronthaul was at 8/10 per share when they signed the deal. Therefore, fronthaul had higher value share per share in merger than CVSU. Therefore, fronthaul aquired CVSU. One for 1. 111 million shares issued in agreement. Total, including fronthaul float, and the 49 million from Waatle/CVSU. In that process, when one company aquires another one, allowed to recalculate the book value and reset the price of your company through filings because the value of the two companies combined shows more value. Similar to IPO but not the same thing. Just revaluing the new entitity. ***
- When 10k hits, it hits. Do not stress out by watching and getting all frustrated. It will happen...relax everyone.
- They are saying to sit easy, and for us not to overanalyze this.
- Do not involve emotions, remember everything is in the 8ks.
- Simon is saying basically, if you arent confident, sell.
- If you have faith, then have patience and see the reset eventually.
- ADP will deliver information maybe Monday? Sabra said it will probably be monday, however they cannot speak for ADP since ADP promised thursday, friday, etc. however it will still happen when it happens, no guarantees
- NOTE THE TIME : 2:29 AM Rufus: "Watch tomorrow" Tut: "You're starting to sound like me now, rufus!"
- Rufus: Received almost 729 phone calls in 2 days We know people are going to be left out, have problems Dont hesitate to call, and please if you have a problem they will resolve your issues.
- Simon says if you start getting shaken, dont bring out the L2s and dont overanalyze. Either decide to be patient, or just sell. __________________ Yí qiè yan kàn jiang yào shì qing...
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Welcome thesource, I'll be honest here...and with this particular stock...with all the negative games being played..."we" as a board do get very defensive when a new poster comes on board...(Don't we the doctor?) But if you can hang in and not take offense...in time we come around...
Good luck and hope to see ya around...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Hey guys/gals , this is my 1st post here and I'm a share holder for CSHD as well . I've been on HSM but don't like the fact that if you ask a question or question certain things , that makes you a basher . Hope this site is different and hope we all make a ton of cash Monday !!!
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quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: soooo... good job on the calls and getting through... but, has anyone asked sandra when the reset will take place? the next trading day? a halt mid-day then straight to 15? will there be a halt for a few days then open? if someone could, call her and ask that... i'm more interested in that than which day is the "correct" filing date...
bump... and whoever is calling ask about the reset... thanks in advance
so.... did anyone end up asking this question to sabra or anyone else at Conversion... or did ppl call and just ask one question and that one being about the 10k?
prowds.. Yes I did ask that question.
She stated that she could not comment on that however we will know on Mon.
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Hey guys/gals , this is my 1st post here and I'm a share holder for CSHD as well . I've been on HSM but don't like the fact that if you ask a question or question certain things , that makes you a basher . Hope this site is different and hope we all make a ton of cash Monday !!!
hi "thesource"
Yes, here what makes us strong is looking at things TOGETHER and picking them apart or seeing if they hold up.
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Hi board. Just checking to see if some off chance that some news came out. Too bad, would have made my day! Hope you all aren't wasting the weekend away sitting on that board...save that for the rest of the week!
Anyway, hope all is well and lets hope for some news soon! Monday sounds like the day...unless you want to talk about if that's actually the day or not! Posts: 528 | Registered: Aug 2006
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So everyone is in agreement that CSHD has not went past the dead line for the 10K to be filed ? I am confused on this because both sides make good arguements . I personally hope Rufus and his posse took the time to make sure they didn't file it late .
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Hrm I missed this one when it came out... It is slamming CSHD. Forgive me if it was brought up before.
Personally, my shares are staying where they are for the forseeable future because I actually believe in this company. I only post this to make sure the board is aware of it.
quote:Conversion Solutions attracts converts to fluffy promo
2006-10-13 20:33 ET - Street Wire
by Lee M. Webb
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp., a recently reorganized OTC Bulletin Board company, has attracted a number of cultish converts to its fluffy promotion. The virtually penniless company, which touts colonization of the moon as a future project, claims to have acquired billions of dollars in assets.
Georgia-based Conversion Solutions lays claim to being "a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market."
The company says that its "main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market." (All amounts are in U.S. dollars.)
Notwithstanding the fact that Conversion Solutions has no cash and has not generated any revenue, the company claims that it has billions of dollars worth of bonds.
Rufus Paul Harris, the founder and chief executive officer of Conversion Solutions, has publicly claimed in an Aug. 26 post to an Internet chat site that the company's stock is worth $54 per share.
That $54-per-share valuation, served up after some earlier gobbledegook from Mr. Harris about "resetting" the stock price to $15 per share was in turn superseded by "a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63," which would give the cashless startup a market capitalization of approximately $5.5-billion.
Given that Conversion Solutions has reportedly added another $6.25-billion worth of Republic of Venezuela bonds "to the companies (sic) Asset Management Portfolio" since Mr. Harris's airy $54-per-share valuation, it is anyone's guess what he thinks the OTC-BB outfit might be worth now.
Evidently the market does not exactly share Mr. Harris's opinion regarding the value of the newly hatched promotion, but since the company's predecessor, The FrontHaul Group Inc., announced in July that it planned to merge with Conversion Solutions, excitable investors pushed the stock price up from less than 10 cents per share to a relatively lofty $4 per share before it lost some ground.
Apparently Mr. Harris, who has spent several hours chatting it up with some of his Conversion Solutions associates on an Internet radio stock talk program, believes the share price would be much higher, if not for the nefarious short sellers and the scurrilous "bashers" on stock message boards.
While many of the company's cultish followers eagerly embrace Mr. Harris's whimsical public musings about fantastic share prices and other matters including shorters, "bashers" and fanciful future projects, some critics clearly think that Conversion Solutions does not pass the giggle test, let alone the smell test.
Indeed, at least two Internet publications with reputations for sniffing out stinky stocks, Our-Street.com and **********.com, have written scathing reports about Conversion Solutions and have contacted the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding the OTC-BB promotion.
To this point, there has been no indication that the SEC shares the concerns of critics of Conversion Solutions. In the normal course, however, the U.S. regulator does not publicly forecast an investigation in advance of issuing a trading suspension, administrative proceeding or civil suit.
Notwithstanding the lack of any evidence of SEC interest in Conversion Solutions, at least a modicum of skepticism about the company may be understandable.
The relatively brief history of Conversion Solutions is something of a tangled tale involving a handful of key players and several financially challenged companies, all with little, if anything, in the way of a successful track record.
Moreover, some of the company's SEC filings, including audited financial statements, and other public disclosures invite a number of questions.
In future articles, ********** will examine some of the central figures involved with Conversion Solutions and review the information available regarding the predecessor companies that went into the reconstituted OTC-BB promotion.
Meanwhile, members of the company's cult-like following who congregate on Internet chat sites, particularly an insular group of "true longs" who lead the cheerleading and brook no criticism on a site called **************.com, seem to have no reservations at all about Conversion Solutions.
Indeed, many of the company's naive shareholders seem to believe that Mr. Harris actually will "reset" the share price to $15, if not higher, very soon. Some also believe that Conversion Solutions should be trading at $70 or more per share. Some may also believe in the Tooth Fairy.
In any event, Conversion Solutions has been a fairly active stock since the promotion began to ramp up.
Since Conversion Solutions began trading under its new symbol on Aug. 9, approximately 110 million shares with a market value of approximately $187-million have changed hands.
In record trading on Sept. 28 when the stock briefly notched its high of $4, more than 14 million shares worth approximately $39.4-million traded, sending many of the company's excitable Internet followers into a tizzy.
The stock has fallen well off its rather lofty 52-week high of $4, but it is still far above the price of less than a dime that predecessor FrontHaul used to fetch in lacklustre premerger trading.
With almost 1.4 million shares changing hands, Conversion Solutions closed at $2.20 on Oct. 13.
Comments regarding this article may be sent to lwebb***********.com.
quote:Originally posted by Spooky: Hrm I missed this one when it came out... It is slamming CSHD. Forgive me if it was brought up before.
Personally, my shares are staying where they are for the forseeable future because I actually believe in this company. I only post this to make sure the board is aware of it.
[QUOTE]Conversion Solutions attracts converts to fluffy promo
2006-10-13 20:33 ET - Street Wire
by Lee M. Webb *remove the spaces*
I posted a link to this a page or so back. I didn't post the article itself because of the feeble attempt. There is nothing new or even remotely accurate. People like Webb, the lemon and hisstreet should actually be paying members of this board so that they can at least have accurate information to disseminate, instead of the knee jerk reaction writting that they do. None of them have been heard from since they published the unfounded accusations. Oh that's right Timothy Miles does post on I Hub. *************************************************
The due date for the 10K was today the 14th which of course is a weekend, so the filing is due Monday. IMO, the filing was made yesterday after 5:30PM Eastern and therefore will not be released to the Public until Monday. Another Scenario is that it could be filed anytime on Monday including after 5:30PM Eastern and be in complaince even though not released publically until the following day. What Rufus and other officers of CSHD have stated is that they would be in compliance, no "E" would be attached to the symbol.
GLTA Wally
PS: A warm welcome to all new posters. Take no offense if someone challenges a post you might make, as long as you have done sufficent DD it should not be a problem to counter any negativity with links of how you came to your conclusions. This is an excellent board because no one is afraid to discuss multiple view points.
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Here's an interesting concept from Tygrepath in HSM. Guys I was driving to work this am and was thinking about all the things that have been said..all the Pieces of the puzzle".... rufus has said "hes gonna do something that has never been done" and "scr*w the shorters" tut has said "beyond our wildest dreams" and the other night sabre said "rock wall street" she also said that everything was timing & in the best interest of the shareholders..... other pieces are dividend date 10/13 that no one can explain BV 0f 74/75 with a reset of 15 this is what I think...we open monday with 10k split 5 for 1 (justifying the 75 value to reset of 15 and unexplained dividend date) scr* the shorters 5 to 1..never been done before...all in the best interest of the shareholders!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWHHHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! (there I said it) Could rufus pull it off?? would he? Has it ever been done b4 ..IT makes everything thats been said make sense!!! And if 10/13 was the divi date that explains why the 10k would be filed after close......whadda ya think
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