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Hello all,

I have been watching this board for over a month now, and i hope as everyone here that we all make some good coin.

So a question for you good folks, i have the stock held with Ameritrade and wondering if it would be wise to transfer the security over to say etrade.

Spoke to etrade and they tell me it will take anywhere from 10-21 days.

Any suggestions?

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quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
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Originally posted by tyleemary:
I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.

We'll miss you.
I am sure you will. I am sure alot of people dont read this continuous whining by a bunch of "alleged" in-the-know traders. Some of you sound like a bunch of cackling old broads.
I am not mentioning any names ofcourse. Does not matter. I dont hang with any of you so I could care less.

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quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
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Originally posted by glassman:
that's pretty much a poke in AMTDs eye...

i really don't know how they can ignore that statement....

Sure seems he is calling them out. I don't see how they can sit back and not answer. Interesting that he is calling out a broker and not the MM's.


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i have been looking hard at the brokers for a little over year on the SHO thing...

it's not clear they are allowed to NS.... i suppose if they are making the market? then they are allowed...

i still don't have any proof, so Rufus is defeinitely taking a big leap here...

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This is too much!!! awsome!!! glta smile the sky is the limit people!!!!!!!!!!!!111WHOOOOOOOOOhooooo [Wink]

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I have TDA and sold at the pr about the C&D. Afterwards I couldn't buy back.

Really irks me.

What irks me more is that the stocks I purchased always went down upon volume and good/decent news.

I believe TDA has been using my shares to short at the very moment I buy. As if they have existing contracts to be filled.

I have no proof, but I have lost money on stocks that should have been rallying. In my mind they use insider info to establish shorts.

Screwing the very people who pay their commissions.

Just my opinion.

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quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
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Originally posted by TaxBack04:
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Originally posted by tyleemary:
I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.

We'll miss you.
I am sure you will. I am sure alot of people dont read this continuous whining by a bunch of "alleged" in-the-know traders. Some of you sound like a bunch of cackling old broads.
I am not mentioning any names ofcourse. Does not matter. I dont hang with any of you so I could care less.

actually tylee? the "thing" appears to be settled.. Peaser asked questions, got answers, says he doesn't like them...which is fine... it's over now... he may have more questions and that's fine too.. people need to take a deep breath and not worry about how bad some of the other boards have become.... [Wink]

somebody said he can't read and they shouldn'a done that..i think it was removed...

we can always use honest opinions as long as people treat each other with respect..

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That's a tuff one...I have never "switched" brokers...I have simply opened a new account with another...and sold out of the old position...it's the time frame that is bad in this one...but maybe if you called for your hard Certs...and then took the hard to put into the "new" broker? I really don't know...perhaps someone else has some suggestions....

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Originally posted by trade2win:
Hello all,

I have been watching this board for over a month now, and i hope as everyone here that we all make some good coin.

So a question for you good folks, i have the stock held with Ameritrade and wondering if it would be wise to transfer the security over to say etrade.

Spoke to etrade and they tell me it will take anywhere from 10-21 days.

Any suggestions?



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tyleemary, don't let people bother you. There's MUCH more good here than bad. ...sit back, have a nice glass of wine, and enjoy the crap weather we've been having all week!
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Babe you have TDA also correct. What are you thinking or are you watching Rockstar Supernova right now. I'm kind of watching it.

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In order for Rufus to call out Ameritrade. What ever reports he was waiting on after close today. Must of had some crazy information in them. I wonder if and how Ameritrade responds to this.

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A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?
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Major $alls Rufas... I had to think about this one a bit. Pointing fingers at TDA will get you more than a squeeze trigger. Imagine all the other MM's when they smell blood in the water.

I also think it is difficult to make such an accusation without having the news hit CNBC or Bloomberg.

Rufas had better release the 10K to back his book value statements. IMO

Wow... I am in shock n awe.

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quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?

Not really a dumb question...I would assume that they can be traded the same as any other stock would be traded the day of the reset...
Not sure how they would tell the difference...common shares are just that...before, during and after reset...

Glass..what do you think?

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quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?

good question [Big Grin]
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A friend of mine talked to a manager at AMTD a few hours after the PR came out. The manager said they were aware of the PR and considered it slanderous. I don't know what, if any action will be taken, but what a nutty PR on the part of Rufus.
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It would have to be can't have x shares worth 1.00 and the others 15.00 I wouldn't think that could happen. It's not a dividend they are offering

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OK stock veterans... what do you think of this?

This is completely unheard of. Again... what is the point of this? Is Rufus really a champion for the little guy? Or is he pissed that they are keeping a lid on the stock price.

I really wish the PR addressed the business merger process itself. This seems like another "fluff" type of PR. It really doesn't let us know the nature of the business transaction.

Don't shoot me... but it feels somewhat opportunistic to use this info as fodder for a press release to appease us with a PR. It's nothing new... we figured this out last week.

I'm a little let down. I wanted to hear something about our company... not somebody elses. Clearly.. we have not seen the "short squeeze" in full yet. I have doubts about it myself due to this stocks performance EOD today.

I hope we see another PR before tomorrow.

The discussion of the hedge funds was interesting, but referenced before on this thread I believe.

I can't help but feel that Rufus is very upset about the PPS not rising. Upset why? 2 reasons...

1) Wants to keep us invested and protect us from selling under undue pressure.

2) Needs it to be higher for other financial reasons (some good, some bad).

Look... I'm not saying anything... good or bad. Just trying to understand the purpose of our CEO.

Is he calling for intervention here? Is he trying to force the naked shorters out in the open, and force them to cover (increasing the PPS)? If so... it's revolutionary. I only hope it's not just "smoke" to cover another agenda.

What do you think?

Again... just thinking out loud... I'm still long until something definitive tells me to get out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stefan:
A friend of mine talked to a manager at AMTD a few hours after the PR came out. The manager said they were aware of the PR and considered it slanderous. I don't know what, if any action will be taken, but what a nutty PR on the part of Rufus.

The Pr has only been out for a little over an hour...anyone on here that uses them talk to them? I would consider it slanderous...BUT if Rufas says it I would HOPE that he can back up what he is saying...

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Dog, I cant believe that this was "the" PR we are waiting for tonight. The word on the street was that we would see something regarding the merger completion, this obviously isnt it. If we dont get something else then his threat is only going to get more negative attention to himself and the company.

I think he knows what he is doing, there must be some method to this madness.

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quote:
Originally posted by dog:
OK stock veterans... what do you think of this?

This is completely unheard of. Again... what is the point of this? Is Rufus really a champion for the little guy? Or is he pissed that they are keeping a lid on the stock price.

I really wish the PR addressed the business merger process itself. This seems like another "fluff" type of PR. It really doesn't let us know the nature of the business transaction.

Don't shoot me... but it feels somewhat opportunistic to use this info as fodder for a press release to appease us with a PR. It's nothing new... we figured this out last week.

I'm a little let down. I wanted to hear something about our company... not somebody elses. Clearly.. we have not seen the "short squeeze" in full yet. I have doubts about it myself due to this stocks performance EOD today.

I hope we see another PR before tomorrow.

The discussion of the hedge funds was interesting, but referenced before on this thread I believe.

I can't help but feel that Rufus is very upset about the PPS not rising. Upset why? 2 reasons...

1) Wants to keep us invested and protect us from selling under undue pressure.

2) Needs it to be higher for other financial reasons (some good, some bad).

Look... I'm not saying anything... good or bad. Just trying to understand the purpose of our CEO.

Is he calling for intervention here? Is he trying to force the naked shorters out in the open, and force them to cover (increasing the PPS)? If so... it's revolutionary. I only hope it's not just "smoke" to cover another agenda.

What do you think?

Again... just thinking out loud... I'm still long until something definitive tells me to get out.

All very good points, I am also a little unhappy that no PR came out discussing the events of what was supposed to happen today, and that everything went through! and where is the S-4...I thought its not officially done until that comes out

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i'm not a lawyer, BUT?

i think that Rufus can be sued if he's WRONG...

and? i think he has to prove he's correct, if he is sued..

this is actually more interesting than it was before...

and Rufus has been an "outside the box" CEO from day one....

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I agree glass. He didn't state this on Ihub he put it out on the news wire. He has to have the goods in my opinion to release a pr like that, and if he doesn't he should be locked up. Not in prison either he would need to go with the men in the white coats [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by wallymac:
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Originally posted by glassman:
that's pretty much a poke in AMTDs eye...

i really don't know how they can ignore that statement....

Sure seems he is calling them out. I don't see how they can sit back and not answer. Interesting that he is calling out a broker and not the MM's.


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i have been looking hard at the brokers for a little over year on the SHO thing...

it's not clear they are allowed to NS.... i suppose if they are making the market? then they are allowed...

i still don't have any proof, so Rufus is defeinitely taking a big leap here...

I'm not sure if I'm in agreement with this PR. Is TD Ameritrade buying through MM's or do they have their own capability to buy and sell. I use Scottrade so I know with them they place the order with a Market Maker just not sure how TDA does it.

It does ramp up the intrique here if nothing else.

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Glass...would this have anything to do with the NOBO that we were "waiting" to get as of the close today?

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IMO there is no other reason why he would draw attention to this matter except that he wants to keep us invested. I can't imagine going to this much trouble otherwise(IMHO).
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Ya know, if you really think about it, he is kind of hinting at Ameritrade to get their crap in order. Im not sure its a threat or slander but more of a warning to them that they could be in deep trouble when he drops the bomb. This is just my opinion of course, i dont know what he is thinking most of the time. [Smile]
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GLASS can you answer this question from the newbie trade2win


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Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?


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yikes

[ September 13, 2006, 21:14: Message edited by: BooDog ]

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This action should definitely put CSHD on the national financial news radar.

If the public views him as a business savvy maverick, he may get more support of his company post reset.

The gloves are off. Maurice Bennett will have an active fax and phone tomorrow. Rufus must know what he's gotten himself into, and I'd like to think he had it planned out ahead of time after BBAN was ridden into the ground by shorty. He is going to be writing more than a few checks to his legal department.

The NOBO must have framed the whole picture for him.

He's right about one thing though..."you will remember the name Rufus Paul Harris."

This chit is better than any book or movie I've seen this year.

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quote:
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Glass...would this have anything to do with the NOBO that we were "waiting" to get as of the close today?

yes, the NOBO should be a list of all the owners and how many they own...
thats' what a NOBO is...

that's why i said this just got more interesting..

i didn't expect him to have the actual data already tho....

and? i didn't point this out before? but i THINK the NOBO is from trades last Fri anyway....

three days to settle remember? AMTD wouldn't have been able to "fix" it this week anyway if i am correct...

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TDAmeritrade buys through NITE and UBSS they are subsidiaries. I think Crab posted this 606 yesterday but it lists their MMs. Knight is defintely in their pocket.

http://www.advancedclearing.com/html/CLR2054.pdf

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I agree with CAT too. It is not outright but implied IMO.
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If that is the case then this IS the PR that "Rufas" was talking about...and this is a PR on what he was waiting for...the NOBO list...


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Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...would this have anything to do with the NOBO that we were "waiting" to get as of the close today?

yes, the NOBO should be a list of all the owners and how many they own...
thats' what a NOBO is...

that's why i said this just got more interesting..

i didn't expect him to have the actual data already tho....

and? i didn't pointhtis out before? but i THINK the NOBO is from trades alst Fri anyway....

three days to settle remember? AMTD wouldn't have been able to "fix" it this week anyway if i am correct...



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quote:
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GLASS can you answer this question from the newbie trade2win


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A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?


i haven't seen any restrictions concerning retail shares...
if you bought this week you should be able to sell tomorrow as far as i know...


there are restrictions on insiders, that was listed in the 8K on 7-12 ....

but no, i cannot answer that question with 100% confidence.. there could be a problem selling shares that we can't foresee right now...

heck, this PR could trigger that.. [Roll Eyes]

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Ameritrade claims they do not short otcbb stocks. Their subsidiaries on the other hand could be a different story. They can deny shorting because they are not directly doing it. Although it's still being done.

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