Originally posted by SherriT:
I wouldn't care if he ate it, as long as he takes a good _____ and it is still readable.....
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quote:It seems to be the only time I get "some" lately - so the hell with her.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Oh Cassity...here's your answer
10of13
Member
posted August 30, 2006 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by cassity:
Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis?
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Umm...let me think? NO!
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quote:I bet your kids do!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Oh Cassity...here's your answer
10of13
Member
posted August 30, 2006 03:48 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by cassity:
Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis?
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Umm...let me think? NO!
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quote:10 more seconds and we might have!! Someone rang the bell too soon.
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't think that we are going to make a new HOD...but we may close there
quote:So you ate our 10k? You didn't even share?!
Originally posted by Sandusky:
{opens door...peeks head in} Hey there you all are! went over to the other room and the place was friggin empty! Just when I get settled in to a new room we pick up and move again. Anyway, nice final 5 minutes...woke up in a puddle of drool after I dozed off about 10:30 this morning. Needing something to munch on...like a little PR sandwich or a 10k powerbar.
quote:LOL...well we will just put you in charge of Takin' care of that...OK? You can let us all know what it says...
Originally posted by SherriT:
I wouldn't care if he ate it, as long as he takes a good _____ and it is still readable.....
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quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
I wouldn't care if he ate it, as long as he takes a good _____ and it is still readable.....
quote:What do you plan on doing with that?
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL
quote:Crab!!!!!!
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
10-K
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL
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. quote:Damn You found us!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Alright!!! I get deep in the code look up at EOD and find out everybody left me. I am over at the last thread just talking to the wall.
Hot Stocks Huh? Not too bad... not too bad at all. I could hang out over here I guess.
But if you all go and run off to another thread before EOD tomorrow... It is going to start to look mighty suspicious. I might start thinking, "it's me". (It takes a couple of time before I get the point
quote:Is there any other type of Mama?
Originally posted by SherriT:
thanks, he's a cutie (proud mama alert) - they learn to talk back WAY too fast - and they think it is funny until they get reprimanded....
quote:Like chasing a giant snail.. The thread is pretty big, incredibly slow, leaves a trail, is fairly easy to spot and is severly alergic to common table salt...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Damn You found us!
quote:the only DD would be the first post providing links to the "other threads"...
Originally posted by glassman:
not my fault: sherri T started it ... so nah
just looked:
there is no DD in this thread at all...
quote:basically 1:20:00 into the show he talks about cshd and sounds bullish on it now. It replays at midnight I think.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Link doesn't work...
quote:Pretty much "unchanged"...
Originally posted by a surfer:
float stayed at 28,938,159 I called at 5:30 EST
quote:i hear ya man i stopped reading there
Originally posted by glassman:
dead link...
ihub is a mess on this stock...
quote:My point...
Originally posted by glassman:
nope...
i am more interseted in the filings tha have yet to be filed...
quote:G? PM full
Originally posted by glassman:
i dunno Tex...
don't know where you come off insinuating i give this a clean stamp of aproval...
my exact attitude is that all penny stocks are suspect...assume the worst and work up from there...
the energy spent bashing this one is more intense than i have ever seen...
i have posted on two stocks here in the last six months and the only thing i get is grief..
something ain't right? LOL..darn right something ain't right.
i am not pumping this thing..
but? this stock is 1.13 again... that's after touching the .50's on the last drop..
it doesn't belong in the micro thread..
my interest here is much more academic than monetary...
every single stock in the pennies can be shredded...
that's why they are pennies and that's why they are volatile
and? GVRP? somebody was found guilty in court..
BCIT? somebody was fined.. a bunch..
CMKX? no comment on that POS...
what i see is uncommon behaviour here...
very uncommon...
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quote:i dont think rufus is in a position to NOT follow through at this point...hed be slapped with so many lawsuits hed go BK...
Originally posted by glassman:
so far...the "words" of Mr. Rufas have rang true...if I was betting my families future?
seems to me that he has put his butt right on the line for this stock....
he has done some odd (IMO) things...
BUT?
he isn't hiding is he? it APPEARS to me that he has a lot to lose if he's lying...
anybody who has mortgaged their house (not me LOL) or their horse stables? (definitely not me ) to play this one seem to be in the same position as Rufus don't they?
quote:lol, Glass? I'm not "insinuating" anything...
Originally posted by glassman:
i dunno Tex...
don't know where you come off insinuating i give this a clean stamp of aproval...
my exact attitude is that all penny stocks are suspect...assume the worst and work up from there...
the energy spent bashing this one is more intense than i have ever seen...
i have posted on two stocks here in the last six months and the only thing i get is grief..
something ain't right? LOL..darn right something ain't right.
i am not pumping this thing..
but? this stock is 1.13 again... that's after touching the .50's on the last drop..
it doesn't belong in the micro thread..
my interest here is much more academic than monetary...
every single stock in the pennies can be shredded...
that's why they are pennies and that's why they are volatile
and? GVRP? somebody was found guilty in court..
BCIT? somebody was fined.. a bunch..
CMKX? no comment on that POS...
what i see is uncommon behaviour here...
very uncommon...
quote:good post...
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
FWIW... There were 6 form 144's reported on my Etrade Pro platform News under CSHD.
The most I've seen on one other day is 3, otherdays were like 2 or 1 or none. Lot's of them tonight.
IMA
quote:clearly, I did post that...
Originally posted by glassman:
you clearly did say:
lol, we don't wanna drop to that standard, eh?
and i will tell you straight up that IMO? "that standard" is the whole friggin market..
there is no "standard".
and you can't get away from it if you really do your DD...
why are we only ever discussing it about this particular stock?
i will repeat, i can bash every stock posted here, and yep i am actually playing some of them.
considering the history this stock has at this board? i'm not surprised we are having this discussion..
we've had five or six other stocks here this summer that have been bold-faced pumpandumps of the highest calibre, but this little company that has maintained alow float is the target of serious negative attitude...
go figure...
the chart looks pretty good right now too
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quote:could be...
Originally posted by 10of13:
"xoxox,
tex"
AAAWWW,,,was that to me?
I didn't think so....
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:could be...
Originally posted by 10of13:
"xoxox,
tex"
AAAWWW,,,was that to me?
I didn't think so....
got the shower ready?
quote:lol...
Originally posted by glassman:
i made some dough off mario... didn't know he was running this show...
quote:You can trade what you have bought. They are not restricted. Restricted usually goes to the PE folks and there are many ways a stock can be restricted.
Originally posted by Drumdude101:
Hey, i know this might be a dumb question..... BUT! If i buy say 400 shares of CSHD right now at 1.00 would i be able to trade them RIGHT when the PPS goes up to 15,25,54 ect what ever they reset it to....OR will they be restricted? I had 200 shares of FHAL at like .97 and i WIll be able to trade those RIGHT at the reset right? When can i expect the reset....could someone make this slightley simpler for me
THanks!
quote:10 I did call wed. eve and the float remained at 28,938,159.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ima...the way I understood the TA...
"They" want all shares...both restricted and not...from both of the companies...at least accounted for...if people are going to register the shares to sell..that is up to them..but the TA and Company want all accounted for and tranfered to the new ticker...
Sounds like Rufas would prefer that all have them in Cert form...
As I said...maybe one of the "hold ups" for the total merger and reset???
quote:Candlesticks are what I look at when I look at a chart, They in themselves tell a story, even use them intraday, at Ameriacan Bulls dot com you can follow and have the candlesticks explained to you, and yes we are seeing upward pressure now, SHO list helped us alot!
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rat and Chart,
the daily candlestick chart shows an uptrend continuation, right. WE had a big green, then a spining top of indescision yesterday and now a mildly bullish push today, ending high. Would have liked to close past 1.20 but still looks pretty good.
Whadda ya think???
Ima
quote:Thanks portman! Looks like this guy is a genius. 7 patents, MIT & Montpelier U., Works for the U.S.Government, Pentagon, & Lockheed Martin...
Originally posted by portman:
Found this on IHUB of all places. A little older but a really good read on Mensah. I had not looked in to his credentials all that deep before...WOW is all I am going to say.
http://www.africaresource.com/content/view/154/181/
quote:Good "Nose" dog!
Originally posted by dog:
So y'all tried to lose the dog, eh?
No such luck... I found you!!
quote:Keeps them Fly Proctologists in sugar I suppose.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
dog you are right on with that stuff...these are the types of people that do that stuff...these are the types of people that can put 2000 pound missles up a fly's *ss...without the fly seeing it coming, lol...
quote:The crashing thing is my computer, that site ROCKS!!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Chart,
Yes thanks for the info on prophet I will most likely subscribe here soon, it looks like a very informative site. Added it up and for about 800 a year you can have all their bells and whistles in one place. Are they the ones that are always crashing on you. I tried the jave charts on a couple of computers last night and it was slow on the lower end machines I have.
You may need additional RAM.
TB
quote:Lock, stock, and barrel... It has to be off the SHO list then it can be Naked Shorted again by the MM's. As long as it is on the list and it is past 13 days it is restricted.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
I have a question...
Upon covering a small amount...lets say 100k shares...can the MM's then naked short that many shares or does the entire position have to covered and the security taken off of the SHO list before the naked nonsense can occur again?
quote:I haven't looked... but since 73K shares have traded in an hour. My best guess is yes.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
Ok thanks! We're still there right, lol?
quote:I have prophet charts at ny account at OptionsXpress dot com but I believe if you subcribe at that site you'll get everything that I have and you'll have multile list that you can make!
Originally posted by milliam:
I was wondering the same thing Crab. I thought there was some deal where they could just trade like 100 shares and then reset their dead line, but I think the SHO list must be something different. So many things to remember these days.
Chart...thanks for the lesson and info! Is there anyway to save those changes, or is it something you have to redo every time?
quote:sorry man... busy today will only get to pop on and off of here....
Originally posted by RichBy26:
chart, how far down is this dip going to bring us??
quote:intraday charts set up right should "read like a book" "?"
Originally posted by 10of13:
I have been trying to use my "normal" charting all week here...and It's just not a whole lot of help to me at this point...doesn't go the way "I read it"...
Very difficult...
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:10 I did call wed. eve and the float remained at 28,938,159.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ima...the way I understood the TA...
"They" want all shares...both restricted and not...from both of the companies...at least accounted for...if people are going to register the shares to sell..that is up to them..but the TA and Company want all accounted for and tranfered to the new ticker...
Sounds like Rufas would prefer that all have them in Cert form...
As I said...maybe one of the "hold ups" for the total merger and reset???
quote:He lost all credibility in the first four words, "Some trader on iHub...". IMO
Originally posted by dog:
Some trader on iHub... I believe outside U.S. stated that his shares are still FHAL and have not converted yet... he wiil post again when they have cleared.
quote:No kidding... take it for what its worth
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:He lost all credibility in the first four words, "Some trader on iHub...". IMO
Originally posted by dog:
Some trader on iHub... I believe outside U.S. stated that his shares are still FHAL and have not converted yet... he wiil post again when they have cleared.
quote:Agreed!!!!
Originally posted by trade04:
this stock fascinates me. i know it has plenty of interest because of the 10k come out but im amazed at how active and manipulative mms are with this stock even though theres no new news out...pretty kool though, it kind trades like a nasdaq/amex stock =)
quote:are you nuts? i wouldnt want that, id want to have the least amount of people holding cshd so when it DOES happen we will be sitting pretty...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
How about a PR stating the $54 plan, process, or probability?too good at multi-tasking!
quote:Yeah, I guess... I am not looking forward to the eventual reset and then massive sell-off, and possible bounce. I just think a $10 stock reseting to $25 or greater would be better than a $1 stock resetting that high. If it is $10 to start it is less likely to sell below that following a reset.
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:are you nuts? i wouldnt want that, id want to have the least amount of people holding cshd so when it DOES happen we will be sitting pretty...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
How about a PR stating the $54 plan, process, or probability?too good at multi-tasking!
quote:My thought also dog. I want more also for flipping but if I get stuck long term until the 10K comes I won't complain.
Originally posted by dog:
I'm just trying to flip after 1.139...
pick up another 500 shares from my original position... hopefully at 1.07
may not happen... no biggie, but it gives me something to do other than work at the office. LOL
quote:actually no, lol...I would if I could but its coming from my Power ETrade Streaming News box in my trading window...it won't even let me copy and paste...it's kinda a pain...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Crab...do you have a link to where you get that info?
quote:Thay need shares to cover (SHO) IMO
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
why is it when the bid and ask were both 1.09 not one trade went through just now
quote:Crab, I'm not at my regular computer but if you can verify I don't think this list includes the latest filings like the 6 we saw last night on Power Etrade pro streaming news... yeah does suck you can't copy and paste them
Originally posted by new2stocks:
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?mode=&kind=&timeframe=&intraday=&charttyp e=&splits=&earnings=&movingaverage=&lowerstudy=&comparison=&index=&symbol=cshd&s ymbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType= &mkttype=&pathname=&page=holdingssummary&selected=CSHD
I don't know if anyone has seen this or not....
quote:I'm not sure why but that doesn't appear to have all of the information...they just picked up CSHD later than ETrade did actually on 8/15/06 strange...
Originally posted by new2stocks:
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?mode=&kind=&timeframe=&intraday=&charttyp e=&splits=&earnings=&movingaverage=&lowerstudy=&comparison=&index=&symbol=cshd&s ymbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType= &mkttype=&pathname=&page=holdingssummary&selected=CSHD]Nasdaq 144 Link
I don't know if anyone has seen this or not....
quote:agreed, they need shares bad.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Thay need shares to cover (SHO) IMO
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
why is it when the bid and ask were both 1.09 not one trade went through just now
quote:I have been amazed at the difference between the 2...choictrade IS quicker 90% of the time...I don't quite understnad it...but I have even played around with it...and choice seems better at filling my orders...it's odd..
Originally posted by RichBy26:
10, I use choice trade also, normally they are extremely fast but 1t took a long time to fill my buys...
quote:agreed 10, I've used a couple of different brokers and choice trade is by far the best!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:I have been amazed at the difference between the 2...choictrade IS quicker 90% of the time...I don't quite understnad it...but I have even played around with it...and choice seems better at filling my orders...it's odd..
Originally posted by RichBy26:
10, I use choice trade also, normally they are extremely fast but 1t took a long time to fill my buys...
quote:Yup, this has been happening pretty much every day now. Usually it signals a small run. I would like to see it run a bit longer today though!
Originally posted by 10of13:
bid and ask = again...
quote:Not really "prolonged". Its just been happening once or twice a day recently. The gap between bid and ask slowly shrinks and then they match. Probably means nothing (or very little) but i have tons of other things on my streamer and i dont see it happening to them.
Originally posted by trade04:
so the bid and ask have been matching up for prolonged periods of time? (i havent been watching)
quote:YES YOU CAN!!!! lol ~~
Originally posted by 10of13:
Babe...can't "pump it" in the title...I hate that!
quote:how bout cshd/ might be fake... LOL
Originally posted by betting babe:
pump no, but even when the people following the stock question 'is it real?' im not sure how much time id take to DD it.
a simple "CSHD..awaiting 10K" would have been my suggestion, but i wasnt around...
no prob 10, just was commenting since it was the first id seen it.
this is the lowest volume day ive seen here. not even a mil?
~BB
quote:If the volume doesnt start to move big around 2:30 ill be curious why. Is this where we have been seeing the volume pick up this week?
Originally posted by betting babe:
pump no, but even when the people following the stock question 'is it real?' im not sure how much time id take to DD it.
a simple "CSHD..awaiting 10K" would have been my suggestion, but i wasnt around...
no prob 10, just was commenting since it was the first id seen it.
this is the lowest volume day ive seen here. not even a mil?
~BB
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quote:LOL...must be what the chart said....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2-3 cents this way... 2-3 cents that way....
sigh ~
quote:The printscreen thing didn't work... darn!
Originally posted by betting babe:
just upload the pic to a server?
i dont get it? file of a pic?
or email it to me ill do it.
edit: ohhh i get it, file of a screen?
press the "printscreen" botton on the keyboard
it takes a screenshot
open an imagining program (MS Paint is on everyone's computer"
paste the screenshot into a new doc and save it as a jpg...
si?
quote:lol..
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
try this.....??
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Gadwin Systems has a free print screen utility that you can download that works well. Just do a search for Gadwin Printscreen.
quote:OH GOD !! DONT STOP, PLEASE !!!
Originally posted by dog:
This is gonna pop soon... the pressure.. my god, the pressure
quote:Sometimes you can press CTRL-PrintScreen or ALT-PrintScreen - mine doesn't work by itself either...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:The printscreen thing didn't work... darn!
Originally posted by betting babe:
just upload the pic to a server?
i dont get it? file of a pic?
or email it to me ill do it.
edit: ohhh i get it, file of a screen?
press the "printscreen" botton on the keyboard
it takes a screenshot
open an imagining program (MS Paint is on everyone's computer"
paste the screenshot into a new doc and save it as a jpg...
si?
-it's a "live chart" -does that help?
I can email them to people, but can't figure out how to post it here ~
??
quote:B O H I C A
Originally posted by glassman:
do i need to put the rubber gloves on again? LOL
quote:Hear ya.. but not at home PC and don't want to "save it" here.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
It is sent as a GIF image file attached to the email. Send it to yourself and save the file to you drive. From that point it is just like posting any other image. For me and BB it is FTPing the file up to our web servers and referencing the link to the image. Others can find a file upload service that will do the same.
quote:wtfffffffffff
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
"Rufinator!!!!"
quote:They've discovered a drug that comes close, but it's only been tested on mice. I'll post a picture if I can find one off the internet:)
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
it's real but distorted. They haven't quite found the drugs to do that to the body.
quote:1.10 and 680,000. I think we will see some volume in the last 30 minutes. But, as we know, it wont help the pps.
Originally posted by betting babe:
heah! chart ur funny!
1.12 and 630,000
~BB
quote:that's the one, can't find a pic of it but the bull and the mouse it was tested on were friggen HUGE
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
It's a drug to shut off the gene that limits growth correct. I've seen pic's of a bull that the gene was manipulated in.
quote:The official stock of the U.S. Open.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:LOL...must be what the chart said....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2-3 cents this way... 2-3 cents that way....
sigh ~
quote:the thing with him was he got careless about cleanliness with the needle. he said it would fall to the floor and hed just pick it up and blow off any dust and stick it into his bicep....thats what happened to him... but anyways his arms didn't even look all that nice...it looked like afreak show
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
trade the guys name is Greg Valentino. Not that bright was he. The amount of crap these guys pump into their bodies is amazing and amazingly stupid.
quote:There is no way that I would knowing eat any meat off of something that was grown with that crap...
Originally posted by trade04:
INSANE....when will they start using that stuff on cows to increase the meat we get per cow?
quote:You really want to eat that? I don't know whats in it but I do know it ain't natural.
Originally posted by trade04:
INSANE....when will they start using that stuff on cows to increase the meat we get per cow?
quote:well i dont think theyd do it with cows because youd probably have to excercise the beast, which might make the meat hard...i withdraw my my idea...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:You really want to eat that? I don't know whats in it but I do know it ain't natural.
Originally posted by trade04:
INSANE....when will they start using that stuff on cows to increase the meat we get per cow?
quote:Sorry you're over...DING!...Thank you for playing.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
My guess 1.05 on 832K volume.
quote:Significant figures... I rounded.
Originally posted by portman:
quote:Sorry you're over...DING!...Thank you for playing.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
My guess 1.05 on 832K volume.
quote:Yea i wish i was shaken out of 100k shares!
Originally posted by trade04:
MR CATIA, you got shaken out huh
i say this because anyone holding wouldnt be as pessimistic as your last post was =)
Good day 2 u sir...
quote:You referring to my comment about tomorrow morning? Lets face it, it gaps down every morning even when we close on an uptick. Without news i expect even worse, this is realistic in my opinion....not pessimistic. I'll stand by those words in the morning and eat them if im wrong. I'll add to it, without news i suspect a gap down to .985
Originally posted by trade04:
MR CATIA, you got shaken out huh
i say this because anyone holding wouldnt be as pessimistic as your last post was =)
Good day 2 u sir...
quote:true that... I feel like we are in a movie and were are solders then the general come in and gives us the climax peptalk and we go out fighting for glory and then we all live hapily ever after.
Originally posted by RichBy26:
hope we get news tonight!!
quote:But to answer your question, no...i wont be shaken. Ive been sittin on these shares MUCH too long now to be shaken without knowing whats around the next bend. Ive been riding along for 10 weeks now, 6 of those i think Rufus has been driving. Im a sheep and Rufus is my shepherd....baaah baaah...BAAAH!
Originally posted by trade04:
exactly so if we close on downticks, we should be the opposite, no? i'm forever an optimist =)
quote:That is what I am doing oposite of the "typical daytraders...I do not want to be "out" at the close of the bell...and I never sell totally out of it...
Originally posted by dog:
Or some day traders waiting for a quick up swing to sell, sold off when it wasn't running up, not wanting to hold overnight.... very likely
quote:Babe...you are way better looking than sheep (although I do like sheep)
Originally posted by betting babe:
baaaah baaaaah bahhhhhhh me too
quote:Well helllllllo hello! Graze here often?
Originally posted by betting babe:
baaaah baaaaah bahhhhhhh me too
quote:LOL...Glad you found a new toy Chart....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/VonBon/rufuscowbellrr6.gif
quote:cool...just to make sure I understand...you're saying you flip such that, at the end of day, or a particular trade, you've withdrawn or "protected" the initial buy-in, yet managed to add about 50 shares. Am i understanding correctly?
Originally posted by 10of13:
I haven't found buying to be a problem...as of yet...granted..I am only doing about 1000 shares "per trade"...no not a large amount...but it's enought to get me an extra 40-60 shares a day...not a "big" money maker at this time...BUT...if I keep adding an average of 50 shares a day...that could be well over $50000.00 when all is said and down...but I can't just sit and watch the ticker...not my style...
GLTA...anyone calling the TA today?
quote:plenty of plays will come dont worry.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I am just ticked becaus I placed money in here that I lined up for reentry into MOBL at 0.13. Could have done just that on Aug 12th. It closed today at 0.198. Son of a .....
quote:Actually I think the 8K said 111 million combined. In anycase this has been known for a while. The TA for the last month has been saying the OS is 97.5 Million and the float is now at 28 Million.
Originally posted by glassman:
so wally? was that the OS of CVSU?
FHAL had 62,489,721 in May of this year...
add them up? 105,967,981.
quote:No...I already have taken my capital....a very long time ago...and I have left about 1/3 of my profits from the begining of the run in this...
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:cool...just to make sure I understand...you're saying you flip such that, at the end of day, or a particular trade, you've withdrawn or "protected" the initial buy-in, yet managed to add about 50 shares. Am i understanding correctly?
Originally posted by 10of13:
I haven't found buying to be a problem...as of yet...granted..I am only doing about 1000 shares "per trade"...no not a large amount...but it's enought to get me an extra 40-60 shares a day...not a "big" money maker at this time...BUT...if I keep adding an average of 50 shares a day...that could be well over $50000.00 when all is said and down...but I can't just sit and watch the ticker...not my style...
GLTA...anyone calling the TA today?
)
quote:That was from last November. Not sure those shares were ever registered. What I found interesting was that they were issuing them at $5.75USD. If the shares were issued the numbers do add up because when the merger happened I believe that officers of FHAL got approx 6M shares. What I'm a bit confused about is: If the CVSU shares still need to be registered are they already being account for in the numbers we are getting from the TA? Have CVSU shares already been converted to CSHD shares? If they have then any discussion regarding whether the merger is complete or not seems mute. Just wanted to put this out there for others to have a look and discuss. I had never heard of "S" Shelf registration.
Originally posted by glassman:
so wally? was that the OS of CVSU?
FHAL had 62,489,721 in May of this year...
add them up? 105,967,981.
quote:Thanks for the Info 10. During one of the Paltalk's Rufus did say something about waiting for most if not all of the CVSU shares to be transferred because it would be unfair if some were able to trade and others weren't. It was when he said that it could take up to 90 days for all the shares to be converted and people got the wrong impression and thought he was saying 90 days to complete the deal. Remember that was when we had the big sell off. Recently there was something said about getting new numbers from the TA between Monday and Wenesday of this week. I wonder if that is what they are waiting for. The conversion of a majority of shares to CSHD before the 10K, SB4 and reset?
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally, the way that the TA explained it to me was that they had ALL FHAL shares accounted for and "some" of the CVSU but they are still waiting on more from CVSU, His wording was "The CVSU has been slow coming"...and I asked So some of the CVSU's shares are already accounted for in this o/s and float? he said yes....
So yes the merger is complete...
What I am wondering is if they are waiting on the rest of the CVSU shares to be accounted for BEFORE filing the 10K and reset...
quote:10 of Savvy-Tradin' Free-Shares,
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally, the way that the TA explained it to me was that they had ALL FHAL shares accounted for and "some" of the CVSU but they are still waiting on more from CVSU, His wording was "The CVSU has been slow coming"...and I asked So some of the CVSU's shares are already accounted for in this o/s and float? he said yes....
So yes the merger is complete...
What I am wondering is if they are waiting on the rest of the CVSU shares to be accounted for BEFORE filing the 10K and reset...
quote:The other model has come to mind for me as well. That's why I won't pull certs and leave them on street name. I always wondered if the request to pull Certs was a way to minimize the selling and profit taking if the reset does indeed happen. I knew I wanted my shares locked and loaded not stored in the safe.
Originally posted by T e x:
ahh...
could be...
they were *not* trading, as I recall...
so that *would* fit the "long-thought-out" model (as in "pull certs prior to play" in order to have known quantity). Yet, could also fit other models...
as an intellectual exercise, seems worth following, imo...
quote:thoughts are good...thoughts lead to questions, which point toward answers...that might result in information...etc etc...
Originally posted by P Rowds:
good points on cvsu shares... not sure if this would have much to do in "delaying" the process but CVSU had two ticker changes... according to rufus when i talked to him CVSU had to turn to FHAL... then obviously FHAL turned to CSHD... just a thought... may have no relevancy whatsoever...
quote:Holladay is generally pretty fast at getting CERTS done. They just did a ton of UPZS PE -> Cert conversions to a combination of restricted and free trade shares in about 2 weeks.
Originally posted by wallymac:
TEX,
My understanding was that most of the shares in CVSU were held in Certificate, therefore the process takes longer than a simple(sometimes not so simple)electronic change. Not sure if that cuts muster or not but a thought.
Wally
quote:Wow!!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
I'm female...we are known to talk-a-lot
quote:Jeeze thanks Maumee...I think
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Wow!!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
I'm female...we are known to talk-a-lot
I could say a few things in responce to that!!!
LOL!!!
Hell of a way to start the day 10!!! LOL
Thanks!! i needed that
Don''t worry, your safe, I won't be around much today......
P.S.
Good Morning Gang!!!!!!
quote:who figured this out????
Originally posted by dog:
Morning...
Bashers in full swing last night.... say they figured out how we are being scammed... I won't rehash... you can read it if you like.
I wonder if the heat was comin on this strong for Yahoo back in the day? hehe
quote:Nope, it seems they are gonna make me eat my pessimistic words from yesterday!
Originally posted by dog:
No premarket gapping down today?
quote:My sister just called me and said that the Today show said that Lockheed received a 4 billion dollar contract to build the next generation space vehicle.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
nothing really trade. Lockheed got a NASA contract today. Someone stated that they heard Georgia Aerospace mentioned in the news piece. We have not been able to verify that Georgia Aerospace is involved in anyway.
quote:good info, thanks for the post cassity...
Originally posted by cassity:
This is my opinion why CVSU and Georgia Aerospace decided to join together. I believe that Georgia Aerospace needed money for an expansion on their operations, and they are using CVSU to fund them. I work in aerospace and if they are awarded gov. contracts there is a good chance we won't know about it until down the road. My company has done gov. work for many years and a lot of it was kept secret for a long time. Georgia Aerospace is undeniably a real company, with very impressive management. Go to their website (www.georgiaaerospace.com) and they have the CVSU/Georgia Aerospace joint venture press release on there. IMO.... This joint venture is the whole key to what CVSU is doing. Some of you may have already thought of this, but this is for those who have more recently joined us. GLTA
quote:Bump..
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14594789/
18 hrs old.
quote:Very interesting. I've found a little bit on General Lester L. Lyles. He is listed on the Board of Advisors for GAS. He has also been heavily involved with MTC and has even been their director. He also seems to have lots of other experience with companies such as NASA.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I have GAS proof of contracts with the Air Force's Flexible Acquisition and Sustainment tool (FAST) program. Someone posted links to to contract excel spread sheets that have GAS listed.
Once as a sub for the Air Force and once for MTC technologies on the same program.
Air Force Spread Sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_PRIMES_AND_SUBCONTRACTORS_ 9sep05.xls
MTC Spread sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_MTC_SUBCONTRACTORS_9sep05. xls
quote:don't think so, but let's get everything set and see where we are!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hmmm...looks like I may need to lower my buy order????
quote:I was hoping you wouldn't say that...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
.71
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:Very interesting. I've found a little bit on General Lester L. Lyles. He is listed on the Board of Advisors for GAS. He has also been heavily involved with MTC and has even been their director. He also seems to have lots of other experience with companies such as NASA.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I have GAS proof of contracts with the Air Force's Flexible Acquisition and Sustainment tool (FAST) program. Someone posted links to to contract excel spread sheets that have GAS listed.
Once as a sub for the Air Force and once for MTC technologies on the same program.
Air Force Spread Sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_PRIMES_AND_SUBCONTRACTORS_ 9sep05.xls
MTC Spread sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_MTC_SUBCONTRACTORS_9sep05. xls
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=564132
The other thing from these documents...They have confirmed something I was finding...GAS is a minority company. Not sure if this matters or not, but I think it could help them in getting contracts.
quote:If you got the funds to play 10, I would....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:don't think so, but let's get everything set and see where we are!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hmmm...looks like I may need to lower my buy order????
quote:from cvsu.us
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Minority owned is one of several "set aside" factors in govt contracting. Others include service disabled veteran owned, woman owned, hubzone, and 8A. They are helpful on RFP/Q's that are designated "set aside". The problem for most of these companies is that they lack resources, past performance, etc. required to win major bids. Hoever, the DOD is supposed to set aside 30% of it's ENTIRE budget for award to set aside eligible contractors. They have never attained that goal for reasons above. Regardless, there are $billions tagged for this purpose.
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:Very interesting. I've found a little bit on General Lester L. Lyles. He is listed on the Board of Advisors for GAS. He has also been heavily involved with MTC and has even been their director. He also seems to have lots of other experience with companies such as NASA.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I have GAS proof of contracts with the Air Force's Flexible Acquisition and Sustainment tool (FAST) program. Someone posted links to to contract excel spread sheets that have GAS listed.
Once as a sub for the Air Force and once for MTC technologies on the same program.
Air Force Spread Sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_PRIMES_AND_SUBCONTRACTORS_ 9sep05.xls
MTC Spread sheet:
http://fast.hill.af.mil/docs/CONTRACTORSELECTEES/FAST_MTC_SUBCONTRACTORS_9sep05. xls
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=564132
The other thing from these documents...They have confirmed something I was finding...GAS is a minority company. Not sure if this matters or not, but I think it could help them in getting contracts.
quote:The guy is a minority with the ability to win single source - no bid contracts, he has done work with Lockheed in the past, he has been part of Lockheeds mentor-protoge program since 98, and he specializes in composite materials.
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Thanks sceptor. Valid but not unique value proposition statement (from the site). Even when no bid contracts are awarded the company must (arguably all the more) still demonstrate a strong past performance, or be the only provider of the product or service (think Halliburton - Iraq).
This thing with GA/AISS has been a sticker for me, probably because this is where I have the most knowledge. There is catch 22 with SDB...say you land a huge contract, which leads to other contracts, you don't remain SDB for very long. It can not be a cornerstone strategy if you want to become the size AISS seems to have ambition for (publicly traded spin off). I don't know what to make of it.
quote:Go ahead, give it your best shot! lol ~
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I am getting bored. I'm getting ready to make up pr's for the entertainment of the board j/k
quote:bump...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
everything pos, alittle volume would make it go ~
Looks like that was the bottom...
quote:we have read all this crap before
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
this is not a fake pr. I don't like this guy but Our-street just posted this at ihub
Posted by: Our-Street
In reply to: None Date:9/1/2006 1:12:02 PM
Post #of 61899
ALERT!!! CEASE AND DESIST ORDER AGAINST CSHD
Our-Street.com, a financial watchdog website has received a copy of a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER sent by the Humanitarian and Scientific World Foundation to Rufus Harris and Conversion Solutions.
I have posted a copy of it for your review.
http://tinyurl.com/e4zi
It appears authentic. I have called and sent an email to further confirm this was both prepared by or for the Fund and that it was delivered to Rufus. In the interim, I felt it was important enough to present to you at face value. I will advice you if/when I receive a response from the Fund.
MONITORS.. THIS IS IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT. I AM NOT SPAMMING, I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO DISSEMINATE IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
quote:Why would something like this be sent via email?
Originally posted by glassman:
why is the letter private? why is it being realeased to the public thru a our street?
quote:If this condfidential letter was only sent to CVSU as it shows how in the world did OurStreet get it. Did Rufus email it to him? Something really stinks here.
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL...
one minute? our street is discrediting Humanitarian and Scientific World Foundation and the next minute? they are the foundation of a new "bash"...
he sure did get that letter quick... something stinks (again, LOL)
this is what has been so interesting to me about "this play"...
i stopped trying to keep a flow chart a long time ago..
let me just say that i have seen as many "bashers" contradict themselves as i have seen "pumpers" make outrageous claims...
quote:My bet is he loaded the answering service of the phone number prior to posting the file. It may be me but I have never seen a corporate seal, which is an embossied seal by the way, make blue smudgies on a piece of paper before.
Originally posted by glassman:
has it occurred to anybody that all of these phone calls our streets' real goal...to harrass th heck out everybody involved?
quote:why?
Originally posted by trade04:
i dont know but ourstreet is reallyyy sticking his neck out there for the chopping block if this is fake...
quote:--the price goes up!!
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
meanwhile back at the ranch...
.
quote:Bump..
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Read intire post before doing anything....Ok people here's what I did....
I did a reverse address search for the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation and this is what I got
http://www.whitepages.com/9901/search/ReverseAddress?housenumber=400&street=Gall eria+parkway&city_zip=30339&state_id=
I called WH Smith and asked the lady who answered the phone if Humanitarian was in that building and she said yes they are. I asked for the number and she gave me 1-678-385-6740 she then asked me if I wanted to speak with Mr Canady, and I said no...( I should have said yes!!) That number is no longer in service! So I called WH Smith back and told her that the number was disconnected. She said that her company provides phone numbers for the building and that if it is no longer in service then they didn't pay their phone bill....
NOt sure what to make of that one!!!
quote:678-385-6140 I mean
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Bump..
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Read intire post before doing anything....Ok people here's what I did....
I did a reverse address search for the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation and this is what I got
http://www.whitepages.com/9901/search/ReverseAddress?housenumber=400&street=Gall eria+parkway&city_zip=30339&state_id=
I called WH Smith and asked the lady who answered the phone if Humanitarian was in that building and she said yes they are. I asked for the number and she gave me 1-678-385-6740 she then asked me if I wanted to speak with Mr Canady, and I said no...( I should have said yes!!) That number is no longer in service! So I called WH Smith back and told her that the number was disconnected. She said that her company provides phone numbers for the building and that if it is no longer in service then they didn't pay their phone bill....
NOt sure what to make of that one!!!
quote:New2Stocks it just means they are also in a virtual office. The phone number comes with the contract but if they don't use it, then there is no reason to payfor it.
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Read intire post before doing anything....Ok people here's what I did....
I did a reverse address search for the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation and this is what I got
http://www.whitepages.com/9901/search/ReverseAddress?housenumber=400&street=Gall eria+parkway&city_zip=30339&state_id=
I called WH Smith and asked the lady who answered the phone if Humanitarian was in that building and she said yes they are. I asked for the number and she gave me 1-678-385-6740 she then asked me if I wanted to speak with Mr Canady, and I said no...( I should have said yes!!) That number is no longer in service! So I called WH Smith back and told her that the number was disconnected. She said that her company provides phone numbers for the building and that if it is no longer in service then they didn't pay their phone bill....
NOt sure what to make of that one!!!
Call me I'm waiting....
quote:Having space allocated in a building as a location of business and actually being in the office doing business are two seperate things.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I called WH Smith and asked the lady who answered the phone if Humanitarian was in that building and she said yes they are.
=============================================
They ARE in the building....?
-but they don't need a phone?
quote:There is more than one company in that building....Humanitarian has a different Suite number I think
Originally posted by milliam:
That number (678-385-6140) is listed for Van der Graaf Corp. Their address checks with the 400 Galeria Pkwy.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?197317
quote:Haha, its quite a headache promoter eh?
Originally posted by SherriT:
Guys, I know it is DD, and watching the stock is boring, but do we care about slapping down the so called news anymore? We KNOW it's fake...
how bad is this sell off going to be
quote:All I can say is "Oh Dear"...about the same reaction I am having to the price of this stock this afternoon. Any sign of an EOD rally?
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
Maybe this guy can help you Sherri?
quote:I wasn't trying to say this was them, just that the number wasn't for them. I have no doubt they are in the building there, since that is also their address.
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:There is more than one company in that building....Humanitarian has a different Suite number I think
Originally posted by milliam:
That number (678-385-6140) is listed for Van der Graaf Corp. Their address checks with the 400 Galeria Pkwy.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?197317
quote:Yeah, if you would have sold this morning, you would be sitting on plenty of free shares
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
omg, if this falls any more i might even investigate some funds i have sitting around for more shares! Whoever wrote that fake letter is helping out a lot of people that had some problems flipping for more shares recently!
quote:I Called that number....it not in service.
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:I wasn't trying to say this was them, just that the number wasn't for them. I have no doubt they are in the building there, since that is also their address.
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:There is more than one company in that building....Humanitarian has a different Suite number I think
Originally posted by milliam:
That number (678-385-6140) is listed for Van der Graaf Corp. Their address checks with the 400 Galeria Pkwy.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?197317
quote:I am trying to leave Rufas alone to write his 10K
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
with all this going on did anyone thing of just calling CSHD for a comment?....
Seems to not be answering anyway.
quote:
Ok folks, time for me to contribute something .... the Ourstreet pdf document everyone is talking about .... heres what I found.
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Doc created - 8/31/2006 5:18:46 PM
Doc modified - 8/31/2006 5:19:11 PM
Application - PScript5.dll Version 5.2.2
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This doc was created using Adobe Distiller program.
My guess is that some created this doc in MS Word or similar program and used Adobe Distiller to create PDF out if it.
I don't think any professional company uses Adobe Distiller to create documents.
Want to verify it .... just save the document to your local PC. Open it in Adobe Acrobat Reader and Select File Menu > Document Properties.
you can see all this details there.
Hope this helps.
quote:Thanks for the info!!
Originally posted by sceptor:
hsm...
quote:
Ok folks, time for me to contribute something .... the Ourstreet pdf document everyone is talking about .... heres what I found.
=================================
Doc created - 8/31/2006 5:18:46 PM
Doc modified - 8/31/2006 5:19:11 PM
Application - PScript5.dll Version 5.2.2
=================================
This doc was created using Adobe Distiller program.
My guess is that some created this doc in MS Word or similar program and used Adobe Distiller to create PDF out if it.
I don't think any professional company uses Adobe Distiller to create documents.
Want to verify it .... just save the document to your local PC. Open it in Adobe Acrobat Reader and Select File Menu > Document Properties.
you can see all this details there.
Hope this helps.
quote:Now that's what I'm talk'n bout sceptor, thx for the post ~
Originally posted by sceptor:
hsm...
quote:
Ok folks, time for me to contribute something .... the Ourstreet pdf document everyone is talking about .... heres what I found.
=================================
Doc created - 8/31/2006 5:18:46 PM
Doc modified - 8/31/2006 5:19:11 PM
Application - PScript5.dll Version 5.2.2
=================================
This doc was created using Adobe Distiller program.
My guess is that some created this doc in MS Word or similar program and used Adobe Distiller to create PDF out if it.
I don't think any professional company uses Adobe Distiller to create documents.
Want to verify it .... just save the document to your local PC. Open it in Adobe Acrobat Reader and Select File Menu > Document Properties.
you can see all this details there.
Hope this helps.
quote:It's at .76...but it isn't going to make it...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
10of13 you still have that buy in for 0.74?
quote:where is Rice U??
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
wait a second...so someone at Rice University put that letter together?
quote:Texas?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:where is Rice U??
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
wait a second...so someone at Rice University put that letter together?
quote:Houston
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:where is Rice U??
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
wait a second...so someone at Rice University put that letter together?
quote:Rice is in Houston, TX
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:where is Rice U??
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
wait a second...so someone at Rice University put that letter together?
quote:Not right at all, I really hope the people involved get what they deserve....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
those azz-wipes I'm sure bought shares at that low price!
not right, I do hope Rufie and company hang some people....
quote:I too use it all the time at home.
Originally posted by milliam:
Actually, we use Adobe Distiller to make .pdf files. It is setup like a print to file thing. Instead of picking a real printer, you pick the Distiller and it prints to a .pdf file. I'm not real sure why you'd want to make a word file into a .pdf, but I'm not sure that its that unusual.
quote:Nice Wallymac,... -nice score!
Originally posted by wallymac:
http://www.amex.com/?href=/newsDetails/CmnNewsDet.jsp?id=XpressFeed_NewsDetails_ 1115613571208.html
quote:No you and rat told me 0.71 was the magic number...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
was ANYONE able to scoop cheap shares up???
or did the mm's feed? ?
I was down there waiting... but Nooooo it never went that low for me. LOLquote:btw... look back, "I" said .85 would come first
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:No you and rat told me 0.71 was the magic number...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
was ANYONE able to scoop cheap shares up???
or did the mm's feed? ?
Did I mention, I am glad you love your charts!
quote:Great input!
Originally posted by milliam:
Here's something interesting. Open the .pdf file and zoom way in. The typed data stays very, very clear. The pictures, seal, and signature are very pixilated. I can see the picture and maybe the seal (if they dropped them onto the document from another program), but I'm not quite sure about the signature. I guess if it was all done electronically, adding a signature that way would be the only way to get it there. IMO, there's no way this is a scanned image of something that was faxed or sent to someone...that's for sure.
quote:don't know...
Originally posted by 10of13:
BTW...I should have left things the way that I had them...ARGH!
No biggie..we'll have another dip here shortly...
quote:I bought more today at $1.00, then .90, and then at .97. I think anything 1.00 and below is good. Now just wait till the run up starting in about 10 minutes...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
was ANYONE able to scoop cheap shares up???
or did the mm's feed? ?
quote:I second and third that....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
heck yes.. even though I'm in it for the deal I HATE to see the PPS drop!
quote:Yea right, like im gonna believe you are taking off 10 minutes before close the day before a holiday weekend. You are still here.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
looks like we go into the Labor day weekend pretty much where it's at!
Party hard, stay safe!
Catch you all Tuesday ~
Peace ~
quote:I totally agree. 2 minutes to close. Last chance to get cheap shares (just in case the 10K comes out).
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
heck yes.. even though I'm in it for the deal I HATE to see the PPS drop!
quote:Even with super high end stuff you will not get that clean of an edge on scanned type at 800% zoom. Maybe if your scanner OCR'ed it and rebuilt the document from seperated images and OCR text (which is impossible by the way) and built in font recognition. Nope definitely NOT a scan. The only thing that could have happened here is the HSWF built a confidential legal document on a blank non-letterhead signed and stamped document. Dragged and dropped a logo on top to make it look official. Then took the highly confidential file itself (not paper mind you) and either created a PDF on their computer, or sent the original file to Rufas and Our- Street at the same time. Where Our-Street could have converted it to PDF format to post on their highly suspect and currently under litigation web site.
Originally posted by portman:
Tax, I concur with your assessment and have a similar background but not as deep in imaging as you.
I am going to dig deeper into this at home tonight but I have no question it is a fake.
A scan also would not be as clean unless you have some high end stuff.
quote:Yep...
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
The siggie is under the printed name and line? Too funny.
"told ya sooo..."
quote:Our-Street put out a "fake" C&D letter from Humanitarian Scientific to RPH. It was very fake but the damage was done.
Originally posted by betting babe:
hey all, just got in, is there a nutshell-reason that we dropped below a dolla?
thx ~BB
quote:I may be happily married an have three wonderful rug-rats... But I concur...
Originally posted by glassman:
heyellllloooo
FAKE!
quote:he didnt say article. You need to relay complete and correct information if thats what you want to do.
Originally posted by dog:
An HSM poster says there is a NY Post article in which Canaday agreed that he sent the document.
I tried to find an article but cannot. Not sure if this is worth DD or not. Just lookin out.
quote:peace.
Originally posted by dog:
Excellent Sceptor... I was just asking if someone else had any clarification on this or new any facts. Watching a four-year old can be distracting.
quote:You read my mind... I have already broke it open.
Originally posted by portman:
The kicker is this...
If they left it in certain formats like word without converting to PDF they leave too many traces of where it was created. All kids of stuff gets dropped into the formatting that may even idenfiy the user, CPU codes, MS license codes....all sorts of nifty stuff.
I am going to research and see if I can dissect this thing. I pulled a local copy.
quote:The bond no longer exists? I'm confused. whats going on here.
Originally posted by glassman:
view source code
http://www.our-street.com/fhal/Humanitarian%20%20Scientific%20World%20Foundation %20Cease%20%20Desist%20to%20Conversion%20Solutions%20Holdings%20Corp%20_31%20Aug ust%2006_.pdf
quote:OMG - no way
Originally posted by glassman:
view source code
http://www.our-street.com/fhal/Humanitarian%20%20Scientific%20World%20Foundation %20Cease%20%20Desist%20to%20Conversion%20Solutions%20Holdings%20Corp%20_31%20Aug ust%2006_.pdf
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
An HSM poster says there is a NY Post article in which Canaday agreed that he sent the document.
I tried to find an article but cannot. Not sure if this is worth DD or not. Just lookin out.
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quote:guys im sorry i have to say you are all getting out of hand with this fake or not fake thing. we got one guy trying to round up some forensic analyzers of pdf lol...too funny. the way i see it is that it looks pretty damn real, especially with that seal...
Originally posted by dog:
So it's fake right? Or the worst example of business letterhead and cut and paste.
First thing I did was check it out in photoshop when street posted link.
quote:Trade...so you think that this is legit? and you are not concerned? Do you realize that if it is true...this whole thing is done?
Originally posted by trade04:
that document looks really legit. i dont know why its so hard for most to not believe it?
quote:"especially with that seal"
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:guys im sorry i have to say you are all getting out of hand with this fake or not fake thing. we got one guy trying to round up some forensic analyzers of pdf lol...too funny. the way i see it is that it looks pretty damn real, especially with that seal...
Originally posted by dog:
So it's fake right? Or the worst example of business letterhead and cut and paste.
First thing I did was check it out in photoshop when street posted link.
quote:Its spelled wrong because it is a HOAX!!!!!
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:"especially with that seal"
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:guys im sorry i have to say you are all getting out of hand with this fake or not fake thing. we got one guy trying to round up some forensic analyzers of pdf lol...too funny. the way i see it is that it looks pretty damn real, especially with that seal...
Originally posted by dog:
So it's fake right? Or the worst example of business letterhead and cut and paste.
First thing I did was check it out in photoshop when street posted link.
Why is foundation spelled foundatlon, notice the I is an L.
quote:Yes 10, i realize EXACTLY what it means thanks, and yes i AM concerned
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Trade...so you think that this is legit? and you are not concerned? Do you realize that if it is true...this whole thing is done?
Originally posted by trade04:
that document looks really legit. i dont know why its so hard for most to not believe it?
Look and the time and the email addresses. would a company email this type of thing? Seems it would have been "sent" via certified mail, or carrier or something, not via email...
Try to send an email to the email address that claims to have sent it...and does that website/server even exist?
Wouldn't HSWF had made a formal "announcement" of this sort?
From: Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd [mailto:info*hsworldfoundation.com]
Sent: 8/31/2006 10:19 PM
To: harris*cvsu.us; benstanley*aol.com; dabbs*cvsu.us; cvsuvp**********
Subject: Cease & Desist Order to Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Confidential
quote:here's why trade t'inks its fake, right trade?
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:are you nuts? i wouldnt want that, id want to have the least amount of people holding cshd so when it DOES happen we will be sitting pretty...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
How about a PR stating the $54 plan, process, or probability?too good at multi-tasking!
quote:dunno yet.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass..."Irrevocable Trust"? can HSWF back out?
quote:Well that didn't take to long. Appearantly both Portman and I am right. PDFs do strip most of the information out that can be used to track document creation. But appearantly not all of it.
Originally posted by portman:
I hate when I find this stuff out...
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code:By the way most of these references could very well be because MicroSoft Font encoding is just so common that even Adobe Distiller uses it. I am going to decompress a few other example PDFs and see what they turn up. But I am more interested in finding the source image of the blue stamp and signature. I am willing to bet I find a black and white version somewhere that matches identically and the creator of the fake altered the color in a program like Photoshop.Copyright 1981-1983,
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theyre surrounding us glass. rufus is infiltrating...
quote:I believe it. Someone is in trouble!!! Manipulation at its best.
Originally posted by glassman:
this is pretty insane...
the way everybody is reacting to posts on the net is pretty wild...
i said it earlier? i'll repeat:
the sarbanes oxley act was supposed to be a remedy to this problem... LOL
if it ain't in a filing? its rumor...
if? the document is real? the guy who leaked it is in trouble..
if the document is fake? the guy who leaked it is in trouble...
insider information or fraud choose your poison
quote:Bud, your goose is going to boil deeply. This looks to be wire fraud.
=stingermissile ok guys
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=1Sta mpBorders-1.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch14
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Now this part:
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=12WT F.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=13St illWTF.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=14No moreWTF.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
quote:What are you doin' up at this time Sceptor? I guess it's afternoon in Iraq and they are going at it already. I love the edit Bud one!
Originally posted by sceptor:
It's late and I just happened to peruse hsm while getting a drink. Looks like our boys in Iraq are very handy.
quote:Bud, your goose is going to boil deeply. This looks to be wire fraud.
=stingermissile ok guys
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=1Sta mpBorders-1.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch14
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=2let terOutlineszoomedout.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch13
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http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=5zoo mingin.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch10
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http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=7mov ingsigniture.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch8
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=Sign aturebehindtext.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch7
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Now this part:
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=12WT F.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/stingermissile/?action=view¤t=13St illWTF.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2
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. I know he has hand on this but can't prove it. The letter is not real. It is fake thats my input[/QUOTE]
quote:I saw you!
Originally posted by Betting Babe:
i was just on my teeeeveeee nah nah nahh nah nahhhh nahhh
quote:[/QUOTE]
Originally posted by sceptor:
I am unable to find the edit:Bud in illustrator and the guy that posted the pics is offline.
I did just notice I had gotten a pm by the guy. A joke to him is a lie to me.
[QUOTE=stingermissile]Phil, you know the last part is a joke. Give it sometime so people raise pressure on Bud
quote:I doubt anything will happen to him.. there's always a way out for those people.. it's disgusting tho..
Originally posted by dog:
Someone tried to crash the stock price to pick up cheap shares.....
I hope the risk was worth the prison time.
Nobody jokes around at this level. It was premeditated, timed, and they used our street from the looks of it. He's in trouble too for posting it.
quote:I concur Septor. Picked it apart in Illustrator too and the edit bud is not in the document. The fact that it can be picked apart in Illustrator does not say much, but the strange path surrounding the Seal makes me question the source. [/QUOTE]
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I am unable to find the edit:Bud in illustrator and the guy that posted the pics is offline.
I did just notice I had gotten a pm by the guy. A joke to him is a lie to me.
[QUOTE=stingermissile]Phil, you know the last part is a joke. Give it sometime so people raise pressure on Bud
quote:the guy on HSM that did this said the last part about bud was a joke and apolgized for any confusion...the rest is legit apparently...FWIW dr mensah has been on paltalk...i think w/out his knowledge. He has stated he is waitng for his money, basically
Originally posted by timlaniryankristen:
quote:I concur Septor. Picked it apart in Illustrator too and the edit bud is not in the document. The fact that it can be picked apart in Illustrator does not say much, but the strange path surrounding the Seal makes me question the source.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I am unable to find the edit:Bud in illustrator and the guy that posted the pics is offline.
I did just notice I had gotten a pm by the guy. A joke to him is a lie to me.
[QUOTE=stingermissile]Phil, you know the last part is a joke. Give it sometime so people raise pressure on Bud
[/QUOTE]quote:Are you guys saying the picture taken of Rufas and the guy who went to the BBQ is a fake?? I'm confused??? [/QUOTE]
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:the guy on HSM that did this said the last part about bud was a joke and apolgized for any confusion...the rest is legit apparently...FWIW dr mensah has been on paltalk...i think w/out his knowledge. He has stated he is waitng for his money, basically
Originally posted by timlaniryankristen:
quote:I concur Septor. Picked it apart in Illustrator too and the edit bud is not in the document. The fact that it can be picked apart in Illustrator does not say much, but the strange path surrounding the Seal makes me question the source.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I am unable to find the edit:Bud in illustrator and the guy that posted the pics is offline.
I did just notice I had gotten a pm by the guy. A joke to him is a lie to me.
[QUOTE=stingermissile]Phil, you know the last part is a joke. Give it sometime so people raise pressure on Bud
quote:Regardless of whether the original letter is fake or not, the threat to the company has evaporated.
2 September 2006 - We have received confirmation from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Fund that they sent the letter to CSHD and that Rufus is aware of the Cease and Desist order and is attempting to rectify the situation. We recently received this email from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Fund in response to our inquiry.
We did not receive their response until after we had published the order so we were not able to consider their request. We did offer them in a subsequent email the opportunity to make a statement but have not heard back from them. As you can see, this email confirms that HSWF was the source of the Cease and Desist Order we published. Please watch this site for additional developments.
-----Original Message-----
From: Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd [mailto:info*hsworldfoundation.com]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006
To: 'Our-Street.com'
Subject: RE: confirmation please
We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
Best regards
From: Our-Street.com [mailto:info*our-street.com]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006
To: info*hsworldfoundation.com
Subject: confirmation please
Importance: High
I am the publisher of Our-Street.com, a financial watchdog website. We have been reporting on Conversion Solutions and the activities of Rufus Harris. We have just received and are about to publish the attached document which was provided to us. It appears authentic. Can you confirm that your organization prepared or caused to be prepared and delivered this document to Conversion Solutions Holdings? Any additional comments would be appreciated.
Your cooperation in this matter will be appreciated.
Thank you
Timothy Miles
Our-Street.com
quote:CSHD has been on the SHO list for 19 days...
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS do you have any idea about the short interest in this?
quote:LOL...can we "vote" anyone off? I have a few that I'd vote for...
Originally posted by T e x:
this shoulda been a Fox reality TV show...
quote:This could bring back the old movie of the week. Hey I got an idea James from IPRE could get the funding and direct it. At least he has experience in the Penny Market. Now for a title. Show down in Pennyland 1: 10K and waiting, OurStreet fading. Since James has the martial artist's it could be a Kung Fu Movie with delayed audio.
Originally posted by T e x:
this shoulda been a Fox reality TV show...
quote:I wasn't questioning you. I question the whole scenario. How did they verify it was him? According to the different posts I have read last night and today, it's in dispute whether it was truely him or not.
Originally posted by portman:
Wally, The general room heard the calls last night. I was there for that.
I have no doubt they spoke to him that night.
Just remember...I have always shot straight here...and I NEVER want banned.
I will answer direct questions.
quote:Portman...no one is "against" you here...don't take the posts that way...OK?
Originally posted by portman:
lol... so now I am weird, cool...ok I'll drop the whole thing...lol
)
quote:The night call was to the office. The day call was to the cell. He recited the phone number and time that they called the office (without being asked. Talked about things you would pretty much think only he would know. Oh, and he was fluent in french. Several questions that he should quickly know he answered without hesitation. So, if this was a fraud ... I'm fooled.
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:I wasn't questioning you. I question the whole scenario. How did they verify it was him? According to the different posts I have read last night and today, it's in dispute whether it was truly him or not.
Originally posted by portman:
Wally, The general room heard the calls last night. I was there for that.
I have no doubt they spoke to him that night.
Just remember...I have always shot straight here...and I NEVER want banned.
I will answer direct questions.
GLTA
Wally
quote:Portman, I don't post daily on CSHD thread, but read it daily and have been in it for a while now. I saw the article too before you even posted it. I don't believe you needed to post that link. Do you think the writer Roddy Boyd took the time to do the DD to refute the fake letter and other bashing of this stock?? Most likely not, so he went ahead and post his article anyway. I'm not attacking you, but it sounds like you and Trade04 are really looking for much cheaper shares here, and I do apologize if I'm wrong but this is just my opinion.
Originally posted by portman:
Hey I just want to address last night.
I never felt attacked or that I needed to be defensive. I just must have come off that way because I was being cautious so as not be be alarmist.
Sorry for that folks.
I am going to have to read the Post article again. Not sure how I take it. Right now I am leaning toward Rufus needs to drop these guys as they sound 2 bit.
quote:IF the letter was legitimate, it appears that it was a "Jump-the-Gun" decision to send. Maybe it was just a tantrum thrown because Rufus wasn’t holding their hand the whole time. It's hard to say but I'm sure we will receive a comment from Rufus shortly. JMO
Originally posted by sceptor:
folks, our-street is whupped.
quote:Regardless of whether the original letter is fake or not, the threat to the company has evaporated.
-----Original Message-----
From: Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd [mailto:info*hsworldfoundation.com]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006
To: 'Our-Street.com'
Subject: RE: confirmation please
We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
Best regards
quote:Confirmed what?.. "where?" -when?!
Originally posted by trade04:
i guess the post just confirmed this =/
quote:My sentiments exactly. All I can say is Rufus has some damage control to do and he better do it quickly. When tabloid reporters(yes I consider the Post as tabloid)start throwing out misleading allegations, their credibility always get shot.
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually, that Post story would have been written around Friday for deadline.
Looks like Roddy Boyd should work weekends.
--> 'The Post obtained a "cease and desist" request sent by the foundation to Convergence'
hrm, why arent any of the other media reporting on this? methinks that Roddy has a personal interest here.
~BB
quote:not that i have seen...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
So in this Paltalk conversation - any mention of our 10k and reset coming sooner than later???
quote:My feeling is that Our-Street and Roddy Boyd are all working with the shorts. They are all a bunch of scumbags looking to knock the pps down and thanks to scared sellers it worked on Friday. Now all the human wastes over at IHUB aren't helping thanks to their poor due diligence. Bottom line is the letter holds no merit, NY Post Roddy Boyd posted wrongful and negative information, but the bad rumors are creating a disease of fear among investors. We'll see what happens on Tuesday. Perhaps Rufus might issue an update to shareholders to maintain credibility. Lets hope the MMs know that last week's information was purely untruth and misleading but then again, what do they care they are the main short sellers.
Originally posted by glassman:
yep trade it just might..
maybe some of these shorts will cover and the plan can finally move forward?
heah.
quote:He also was buried with a vast treasure which I hope in modern day equates to 2.3 billion in bonds!!!
Originally posted by betting babe:
tutankhamen means "living image of the hidden one"
quote:Not angry at anyone Glass, but point well taken. Don't get to post a lot cause Big Apple life got me working so much. Just got thrown off by the latest post I've been reading since Friday.
Originally posted by glassman:
relax wade, most of the people still here in this one know they are playing the mind game of the year...
somebody has kept the price up in the face of all the mud-slinging...
quote:ive been in one stock on the SHO list besides this one and no matter how much we bought it still went down ...even after it got off the list. take that fwiw for i am just a novice...
Originally posted by cassity:
Does the writing need to be any clearer on the wall. We have been on the NAKED SHO list for over 2 weeks. Desperate times, require desperate measures. A short squeeze cannot happen if people sell. Things will just get crazier and crazier as we get closer to finishing this deal. Look at the big picture people and don't believe every thing you read. Keep your eyes on the facts. JMO
quote:LMAO
Originally posted by betting babe:
trade04, do you ever post anything that isn't *doom & gloom* ?
i know you're a novice, but even playing this one, if you played right you've made bank.
~BB
quote:excellent point trade4...
ive been in one stock on the SHO list besides this one and no matter how much we bought it still went down ...even after it got off the list. take that fwiw for i am just a novice...
quote:LMAO again
Originally posted by betting babe:
what do u mean minus the hot women mister???!
quote:I might get in trouble here Glass if I mention who besides BB might be women here. Don't wanna get called sexist, ya know what I mean???
Originally posted by glassman:
I just assume 90% of the posters here are men thats all. [Smile]
that is probably a mistake...
there are hints here and there if you read closely...
there may even be more women than men posting at allstocks...
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quote:NO DOUBT!! =)
Originally posted by betting babe:
trade04, do you ever post anything that isn't *doom & gloom* ?
i know you're a novice, but even playing this one, if you played right you've made bank.
~BB
quote:I got no panties on !!
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:LMAO again
Originally posted by betting babe:
what do u mean minus the hot women mister???!
No disrespect to you BB. I didn't mean you at all. I've seen your portfolio and think you are quite stunning, I live in Queens and have seen your Macy's commercial...very nice, my girlfriend's favorate department store next to Nordstroms. I just assume 90% of the posters here are men thats all.
quote:what's the link?
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:I got no panties on !!
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:LMAO again
Originally posted by betting babe:
what do u mean minus the hot women mister???!
No disrespect to you BB. I didn't mean you at all. I've seen your portfolio and think you are quite stunning, I live in Queens and have seen your Macy's commercial...very nice, my girlfriend's favorate department store next to Nordstroms. I just assume 90% of the posters here are men thats all.
quote:Most likely......
Originally posted by betting babe:
oh THAT **** site. blah. prob a forgery like the others.
it allows for open contributions from anonymous people.
~BB
quote:ya...doesn't look too good..."Usa" etc
Originally posted by betting babe:
oh THAT bwog site. blah. prob a forgery like the others.
it allows for open contributions from anonymous people.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:what's the link?
Originally posted by tyleemary:
I got no panties on !!
quote:lol this whole thing has become ameature hour. forgeries everywhere, doubt no1 knows whats going on...total chaos lol but still interesting to say the least
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:ya...doesn't look too good..."Usa" etc
Originally posted by betting babe:
oh THAT bwog site. blah. prob a forgery like the others.
it allows for open contributions from anonymous people.
~BB
also, not having much luck searching on "Peach Foundation" (got a hit from 2003 in Seattle) or "waldo green" ...
quote:I realize that.... not meaning to put anyone thru extra work....
Originally posted by glassman:
it would be much better if people didn't post stuff like that here dog...
it doesn't help anything..
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
anybody know whether that blawg site has been reported to the SEC?
quote:they are faking the pr's. you need to at least read the previous pr's from the company. That particular pr is a year old now.
Originally posted by dog:
[QB] This is crazy... if somebody is faking this. PR Newswire search did not show any new articles.
quote:ahh...gotchya...
Originally posted by betting babe:
that would be somewhat unfair.
the owner of the blawg has posted that he basically has an RSS for military info - he is a member of the Dept of Defense, and so his RSS/blawg displays their news.
he also said that it was an open blawg, and therefore anyone could contribute posts. he has had it for a long time, and had no problems til our cvsu-DoD imposter got ahold of it.
when past posts were brought to his attn, he deleted them and posted "deleted due to unknown/unverifiable contributor"
i cut the guy slack. he seems to be a victim in the CSHD-opera.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
anybody know whether that blawg site has been reported to the SEC?
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Really BB - I wonder why there are links to past CSHD stories on the site, strange.
quote:I guess you can't "get your panties in a wad" over this stock then.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:I got no panties on !!
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:LMAO again
Originally posted by betting babe:
what do u mean minus the hot women mister???!
No disrespect to you BB. I didn't mean you at all. I've seen your portfolio and think you are quite stunning, I live in Queens and have seen your Macy's commercial...very nice, my girlfriend's favorate department store next to Nordstroms. I just assume 90% of the posters here are men thats all.
quote:that is their pr from a year ago.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
[QB] So we don't think there is anything of value in their headline:
quote:http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?SID=&LANG=en
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont think this is trading in BERLIN
http://www.berlinstockmarket.com/
CSHD IS NOT IN THE DATA BASE
quote:I hope alot of people sell off so I can get more at ridiculous levels.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Wow!!!
It took a long time to get caught up from Friday!!!
Amazing how that bad news came out just before a holiday weekend, when volume was thin and the news had time to fester in the minds of investers, all weekend...
This really does seem to be a trick to shake some fruit from the tree....
It will probably work too...
Lookin for a sell off tomorrow...stupid as it is..
I'm walkin away from this for a while...just gunna forget I own it and see what happens..
See ya all later!!
quote:My wife 'snatched' them away.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
It's a thought!!!!
Bye the way,,,,,, did you find your panties yet???
quote:
Also, the number at the top of the C&D, (404)791-5490, another interesting one. Saturday we call, a woman picks up, claims shes never heard of H&S World or Steve Canady, that we have the wrong number. Sunday, a man named "Sam Jones" picks up and claims to be an assistant of Canady but will answer no questions. I guess some fradulent basher forgot to tell his girlfriend that he is a degenerate lying p.o.s.
quote:This is a Georga CELL PHONE!!!!
Originally posted by sceptor:
remember that phone number on the C&D fake? The one that always had a full mailbox?
ihub...
quote:
Also, the number at the top of the C&D, (404)791-5490, another interesting one. Saturday we call, a woman picks up, claims shes never heard of H&S World or Steve Canady, that we have the wrong number. Sunday, a man named "Sam Jones" picks up and claims to be an assistant of Canady but will answer no questions. I guess some fradulent basher forgot to tell his girlfriend that he is a degenerate lying p.o.s.
quote:LMAFAO
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
couldn't you have used any other word than "snatched"?
quote:Why is it when you show up it goes to "well pollished strap-ons"?
Originally posted by 10of13:
Why is it that the moment Maumee turns up the thread goes to "under garments"?
Remember all...even if the C/D order is true...there was a statement/email made that CSHD was "resolving" the problem...it doesn't matter....IMO...check the our street website...
quote:LMAO...
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Why is it when you show up it goes to "well pollished strap-ons"?
Originally posted by 10of13:
Why is it that the moment Maumee turns up the thread goes to "under garments"?
Remember all...even if the C/D order is true...there was a statement/email made that CSHD was "resolving" the problem...it doesn't matter....IMO...check the our street website...
Whoops!! See?? It just happened again , 10!!!
quote:Interesting..no I had never seen it...Thanks
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
quote:LMAO...
Originally posted by 10of13:
[/QUOTE]quote:TRY AGAIN..
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Just says page can't be found, ????
( Talkin about the adress dollar13 gave above)
quote:Good Read! Anyone have the answers to the questions raised in the ****?
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
quote:should be an interesting day to say the least
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
We have some pretty damn good support around the .75 area tomorrow....
Two long term support lines converge tomorrow at that level...+ or - a penny or so....
Hope it holds...
could get ugly if it doesn't..
I'm sure that this board will be off the hook tomorrow morning..
I won't be able to watch.
That will drive me crazy all day..
Good luck everyone...I still think there was sumpthin stinkey about that C&D thing..
I'm in... thinkin that support will hold ..
If so, it won't drop enough from here to risk the flip...
Those of you that sold some or all Friday, should have a good buy in op. around sayyy.....76 IMO
I have to tell ya though...
If support doesnt hold in the mid 70's, next good, solid long term level is below .40...like .35 in a day or two....
Be smart, be carefull
Damage control would be good...
Come on Rufas....YOU CAAAAN DOOOO IIIIT!!!!!
quote:Not this P.O.S again! How come everytime we talk about somthing till everyone is blue in the face. You wait a week and it resurfaces a "NEW!"
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
quote:I would rather read posts about dudes losing their panties to their wives. Rather than rehash old crap over and over.
Originally posted by betting babe:
cuz it took them the whole week to actually write the blawg about it, Tax...
j/k
quote:yes you do dollar:
Originally posted by dollar13:
maybe you should read my posts again slowly "i wasnt sure than some one post that Article before"
"COMPRENDE "
If SOME POST IT BEFORE FINE
I DONT KNOW WHY YOU ARE SO ANGRY "TAX"
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:I would rather read posts about dudes losing their panties to their wives. Rather than rehash old crap over and over.
Originally posted by betting babe:
cuz it took them the whole week to actually write the blawg about it, Tax...
By the way I still have not seen the comercial. You should get a spot on one of those Aflac commercials with the duck. They show those over and over and over all day long. Makes me hungry for Chianese.
quote:WOW!!!!
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:yes you do dollar:
Originally posted by dollar13:
maybe you should read my posts again slowly "i wasnt sure than some one post that Article before"
"COMPRENDE "
If SOME POST IT BEFORE FINE
I DONT KNOW WHY YOU ARE SO ANGRY "TAX"
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"newbies" there is like 4 or 5 good stock better then this one out there runnnnnnn.
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
OMG! i just won an auction for that duck off ebay yesterday!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200022072320&rd=1&sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
LOL
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:I would rather read posts about dudes losing their panties to their wives. Rather than rehash old crap over and over.
Originally posted by betting babe:
cuz it took them the whole week to actually write the blawg about it, Tax...
By the way I still have not seen the comercial. You should get a spot on one of those Aflac commercials with the duck. They show those over and over and over all day long. Makes me hungry for Chianese.
quote:This guy does make some pretty good points. Anyone able to refute it?
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Good Read! Anyone have the answers to the questions raised in the ****?
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
We know the CVSU was privetly traded and FHAL public - how hard would it have been for CVSU to go public vs this whole FHAL to CSHD transaction?
quote:Just bustin your chops dude, all in good fun
Originally posted by dollar13:
trying to help , nothing more....
quote:stay current on the stocks information, and help yourself first. You are far behind the rest of us.
Originally posted by dollar13:
trying to help , nothing more....
quote:As I have said before... there is nothing in this article that could not have been solved by a phone call to Rufas. Problem is he is trying to be some journalist but is doing nothing but reporting questions. Questions that we are all aware of and anticipate will be in the 10K. As for the is it cheaper to go public through a reverse merger? Kind of a stupid question. Of course it is but if you think it is less trouble, "Look around!"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:This guy does make some pretty good points. Anyone able to refute it?
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Good Read! Anyone have the answers to the questions raised in the ****?
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
We know the CVSU was privetly traded and FHAL public - how hard would it have been for CVSU to go public vs this whole FHAL to CSHD transaction?
quote:Yep... thanks for putting it more plainly than me. I sometimes forget to be blunt.
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Reverse mergers are cheaper and take less time then an IPO.
)
and sourstreet convinced enough retail shorts to buy out the MM's shorts? the play will come sooner..quote:the correct term for it is "subtle bashing".
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:As I have said before... there is nothing in this article that could not have been solved by a phone call to Rufas. Problem is he is trying to be some journalist but is doing nothing but reporting questions. Questions that we are all aware of and anticipate will be in the 10K. As for the is it cheaper to go public through a reverse merger? Kind of a stupid question. Of course it is but if you think it is less trouble, "Look around!"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:This guy does make some pretty good points. Anyone able to refute it?
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:Good Read! Anyone have the answers to the questions raised in the ****?
Originally posted by dollar13:
i dont know if some one post this yet...
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/
We know the CVSU was privetly traded and FHAL public - how hard would it have been for CVSU to go public vs this whole FHAL to CSHD transaction?
quote:well at least you learn quickly. LOL
Originally posted by dollar13:
I should keep my mouth shut, next time .
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
if the heavy bashers like stock * and sourstreet convinced enough retail shorts to buy out the MM's shorts? the play will come sooner..
Rufus can't just put the screw on the MM's, it's not good business... somebody else has been shorting, the tough question is how much have the MM's gotten rid of?
quote:
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
quote:Ahhhh..my favorite guy...the link that you post has already been ask by me and everyone else who's bought in since when it ran from .16 - 1.60.Now the question is do you believe CSHD will reset its price to 25$?
Originally posted by dollar13:
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAN WHEN I POST A LINK FOR INFO
"EVERY BODY START CALLING ME BASHER"
LMAO
quote:IPO was not part of the equation, as I understand it...
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Reverse mergers are cheaper and take less time then an IPO.
quote:9:15 on the west coast, I do spend time on the boards, briefing over information, I hold an o.k. stake in cshd, waiting, not wondering, just checking in from time to time..
Originally posted by betting babe:
either you are passive agressive, or subtle. at least that's what i thought the 1st time u posted
what brings ya to the board at midnite on a holleeday for your 3rd-ever post 4T3?
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
quote:well now that his entry fee has been declared the bashing shouldnt be too far behind. LOL
Originally posted by driver4t3:
quote:9:15 on the west coast, I do spend time on the boards, briefing over information, I hold an o.k. stake in cshd, waiting, not wondering, just checking in from time to time..
Originally posted by betting babe:
either you are passive agressive, or subtle. at least that's what i thought the 1st time u posted
what brings ya to the board at midnite on a holleeday for your 3rd-ever post 4T3?
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
quote:Dollar13 (I mean driver4t3) hows the weather out west?? I hear southern California is getting drenched from leftovers of Hurricane John, LOL
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
quote:weather here, sacramento valley has been perfect, not sure about southern cal. nice place to be this long week-end though, at the races on saturday. Good luck to us all in tomorrow....
Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:Dollar13 (I mean driver4t3) hows the weather out west?? I hear southern California is getting drenched from leftovers of Hurricane John, LOL
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
BTW dollar how's USXP doing?????
quote:He was just responding to the stupid questions posed by the resurfacing b l o g link. "Why would Rufas reverse merger rather than IPO to go public?
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:IPO was not part of the equation, as I understand it...
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Reverse mergers are cheaper and take less time then an IPO.
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
We have some pretty damn good support around the .75 area tomorrow....
Two long term support lines converge tomorrow at that level...+ or - a penny or so....
Hope it holds...
could get ugly if it doesn't..
I'm sure that this board will be off the hook tomorrow morning..
I won't be able to watch.
That will drive me crazy all day..
Good luck everyone...I still think there was sumpthin stinkey about that C&D thing..
I'm in... thinkin that support will hold ..
If so, it won't drop enough from here to risk the flip...
Those of you that sold some or all Friday, should have a good buy in op. around sayyy.....76 IMO
I have to tell ya though...
If support doesnt hold in the mid 70's, next good, solid long term level is below .40...like .35 in a day or two....
Be smart, be carefull
Damage control would be good...
Come on Rufas....YOU CAAAAN DOOOO IIIIT!!!!!
quote:i would think so!
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Without reading back through hundreds of post can someone verify the following?
I read the 10K's need to be issued 90 days following a company's fiscal year end...According to the form 10-QSB dated 5/12/06 Furia/CSHD fiscal Y.E. is 6/30/06. That being said, am I correct in assuming we should get the 10K by 9/30/06 at the latest?
quote:Our-Street paid $400 and released his own "newswire".
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
News:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5 Cmt%5C2006%5C09%5C05%5C82791181.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DM2_COMMUNICAT IONS&symbol=CSHD
quote:Of course not - I have a feeling the deceit and all will escalate from this point forward.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hmmm...Our street doesn't mention that they info they recieved also stated to not publish it because CSHD was attempting to correct things....
quote:This is getting crazy, the same false news is being rehashed and nobody new that reads it takes the time to verify. They are jumping out of the stock and driving the price down without finding out the C&D is FAKE! oh well, more cheap shares for me...
Originally posted by glassman:
our street has a few other things at his web site besides that too:
7. We do not publish anything that would be considered insider information. Everything (unless noted) contained in our reports and our complaints is taken directly from published statements made by or on behalf of subject companies or their officers or directors or are contained within their SEC filings or other public documents or are from direct communications from the company or its employees which, when published, are no longer non-public.
duh? no insider information?
i think he had to PR this to make it publicly available..he's covering his you-now-what
he failed to post this from his web-site too...
-----Original Message-----
From: Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd [mailto:info*hsworldfoundation.com]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006
To: 'Our-Street.com'
Subject: RE: confirmation please
We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
Best regards
the strange behaviour becomes stranger and stranger..
quote:In what way Chart?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I'm with the board Aaron$....
quote:Believe me I'm buying, cheap shares on a fake PR??? Wow, that was like taking candy from a baby.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OK BUY! ~i always wanted to say that.
quote:keep it about the stocks and we'll be OK here...
Originally posted by cassity:
Where arron go. Funny how these veterans keep popping up!
quote:Chart by chance did you see which MM sold/bought short premarket at .94? I would like to know which is involved. Might give us a trail to Our-Street.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
well, it does look like we have our bottom finally.... Course those shares sold PREmarket can be played now....
quote:Sorry Glass, just have a hard time with some people!
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:keep it about the stocks and we'll be OK here...
Originally posted by cassity:
Where arron go. Funny how these veterans keep popping up!
quote:darn... no I didn't ~
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Chart by chance did you see which MM sold/bought short premarket at .94? I would like to know which is involved. Might give us a trail to Our-Street.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
well, it does look like we have our bottom finally.... Course those shares sold PREmarket can be played now....
quote:LMFAO
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ya know...IF our street would've waited until after the bell to release that BS...I think this would've fallen even more...they can't even "screw things up right"...
quote:It would be nice...but I don't see him doing it...it just doesn't matter..."he'll save his "stuff" for after the reset...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Some damage control from Rufas would be nice.
quote:OK... a reset from Rufas would be nice.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:It would be nice...but I don't see him doing it...it just doesn't matter..."he'll save his "stuff" for after the reset...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Some damage control from Rufas would be nice.
quote:BTW Trade04 did you get more cheap shares on that dip?? Didn't get as much as I wanted thanks to the selfish you know whos. I know you been praying for this moment all weekend.
Originally posted by trade04:
WE...neeed ....MORE-- volume.....CAPTAIN...
quote:Investors/traders are wising up to the chit thats being thrown at it lol.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Wally this stock is holding up more than pretty well. There are some amazingly large piles of chit being thrown at it.
quote:I don't think it is over-exaggerated, I think it is just under studied. I don't know if anyone has enough knowledge of all the indicators of a short squeeze. I can say the lack of volume, the SHO list, and extreemly visible manipulation are all good indicators, but I may be talking out the side of my a$$ since I am forced to estimate what is happening inside the "black box" market maker's world.
Originally posted by dog:
I think the short squeeze is over-exaggerated, but still in play to some degree. We should see this go up, no?
quote:0.79 you mean, right? Right?
Originally posted by tyleemary:
My stop order filled at .89
Won't accept the order unless it is .05 below current market. Hoping it get's lower.
quote:True... it is shrouded in much mystery because we don't have access to the true numbers and data to undertake accurate analysis.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:I don't think it is over-exaggerated, I think it is just under studied. I don't know if anyone has enough knowledge of all the indicators of a short squeeze. I can say the lack of volume, the SHO list, and extreemly visible manipulation are all good indicators, but I may be talking out the side of my a$$ since I am forced to estimate what is happening inside the "black box" market maker's world.
Originally posted by dog:
I think the short squeeze is over-exaggerated, but still in play to some degree. We should see this go up, no?
I just don't think shorty gets trapped often enough for us to have detailed knowledge or experience of the "short squeeze" situation. I do think it is still in effect, atleast the volume does show me that someones hands are tied. They are not just making share out of thin air anymore.
Hope this POV helps.
TB
quote:I put that order in on Saturday. It executed at market open.
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:0.79 you mean, right? Right?
Originally posted by tyleemary:
My stop order filled at .89
Won't accept the order unless it is .05 below current market. Hoping it get's lower.
quote:I think more people are just so immune to this whole Ourstreet saga that it just does not affect them anymore
Originally posted by Hustla:
I'm one to flip most stocks and nothing will change my mind on that. I truly thought this would crash bigtime too, but Holy GotDam!!!
Its been ages since I've seen a stock with the resiliance to BS that this stock has. Can't believe I admit that. This thing has held up more than well to a hellish weekend.
quote:LMAO, hey I work with some good security people. And know ruthless others undderground.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
jeese...this weekend has been something to behold huh, lol...friday at close kinda p*ssed me off so I stayed away...glad I did...
hey people...blackwater goes around the world...ya'll think Rufus would contract'm to pay a visit to slovenia, lol?
quote:that sucks...
Originally posted by betting babe:
did u guys get the email?
quote:Yea, unfortunately this is where my thought process has been going this morning
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
is anyone thinking that Rufus might be being quiet for a bad reason?... just saying what we are must be thinking here....???
quote:That's a very good point. Why would Canady reference a case that isn't resolved yet and doesn't put them in the best light.
Originally posted by 10of13:
the email states...
we have had to endure the woes and ill intent of others who have brought us into their problems in the past
Who puts that in a business letter? Why would this "company" take any time what so ever to respond to anyone? If they did respond...they would have just said that "we are not in the position to discuss this"...blah blahblah...
This is a farse!
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I just recieved the same exact email.
From : Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd <info*hsworldfoundation.com>
Sent : Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:45 AM
To :
Subject : RE: Our Street and Conversion solutions
told you guys it was real!!!!
Dear Mr. McDonald:
Please be advised that the Foundation has disengaged with Conversion
Solutions as of August 31, 2006 based on the appearance of potential fraud
on the part CSHD. As we have had to endure the woes and ill intent of others
who have brought us into their problems in the past, (please follow link:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp) we have no desire to
do so in this matter. The Officers of Conversions Solutions did not follow
protocol as agreed upon and as a result, it was our interpretation that they
were attempting to deceive our organization. We have repeatedly requested
explanations and clarifications to no avail. That left us no other choice
but to issue the Cease and Desist Order. Please be advised, however, that we
do not know how Mr. Miles received this letter as it was deemed
confidential.
Best regards
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:46 PM
To: info*hsworldfoundation.com
Subject: Our Street and Conversion solutions
Did you send a copy of a Cease and Desist order to Ourstreet.com and the NY
Post on Friday 9/1/2006? If not was this document served upon conversion
Solutions and do you still have a business relationship with them concerning
the bonds that have been mentioned in PR's. I am an investor in Conversion
Solutions and would like to know the truth.
Thank You Very much
Wally
quote:Remember we "tried"
Originally posted by cassity:
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE PHONE # TO HSWF so I CAN CALL THEM!!! PLEASE ANYONE!
quote:Can we say Heather???? OMG no wayyyyyyyy, LMAO
Originally posted by trade04:
"i say the whole web address is a fake, and here is why:
OMGGGG hello you guys sound like crazy people!!! lol everything is fake to you guys...now the hswf email adress is fake? i dont think so! REALITY CHECK! HELLO ANYONE HOME*!!!
quote:me neither
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I sent an email to this address right after Our Street posted the C&D. I have not received an email back as you and wally have.
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I just recieved the same exact email.
From : Humanitarian & Scientific World Fnd <info*hsworldfoundation.com>
Sent : Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:45 AM
To :
Subject : RE: Our Street and Conversion solutions
What's up with false quoting members of this board?
Note the: SEE YOU GUYS I TOLD YOU THIS IS REAL?
WTF?
Dear Mr. McDonald:
Please be advised that the Foundation has disengaged with Conversion
Solutions as of August 31, 2006 based on the appearance of potential fraud
on the part CSHD. As we have had to endure the woes and ill intent of others
who have brought us into their problems in the past, (please follow link:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp) we have no desire to
do so in this matter. The Officers of Conversions Solutions did not follow
protocol as agreed upon and as a result, it was our interpretation that they
were attempting to deceive our organization. We have repeatedly requested
explanations and clarifications to no avail. That left us no other choice
but to issue the Cease and Desist Order. Please be advised, however, that we
do not know how Mr. Miles received this letter as it was deemed
confidential.
Best regards
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:46 PM
To: info*hsworldfoundation.com
Subject: Our Street and Conversion solutions
Did you send a copy of a Cease and Desist order to Ourstreet.com and the NY
Post on Friday 9/1/2006? If not was this document served upon conversion
Solutions and do you still have a business relationship with them concerning
the bonds that have been mentioned in PR's. I am an investor in Conversion
Solutions and would like to know the truth.
Thank You Very much
Wally
quote:Trade04, sounds like you have sold, so why wouldn't you just move on to your next play? Why is it that people that don't believe have to hang around for weeks after complaining about how stupid the rest of us are? If I was hanging around a thread that I had no confidence in for more than 2 minutes, I would seriously question my intelligence. JMO
Originally posted by trade04:
predictions for close? i say * best .75
quote:Most of the holders wont cut the email apart and try to figure out, they'll just bail.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Hello everyone!!
I seriously needed to step away for the long weekend...it was time!! Annnnyway, i have been "sort of" following the latest propoganda and my head is spinning. Nice work cutting the email apart and looking for facts. Im a little concerned about the email BB just posted. Either things are getting sour or someone just made another very serious fraudulent email!! Someone is working major overtime here.
One thing that seriously concerns me.....if all of this is false then Rufus and company is making a HUGE mistake by not attacking this publically. HUGE!
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
This is stupid... Trade04 I could setup a fake internet company in about an hour for about $15 total cost. Now doing all the DD we did on HSWF we never found a bit of information. Definitely not a phone number url or email address. I have no confidence that the URL is legitimate.
All of a sudden an email and a phone number pops up attached to a URL regsitered days ago. YES it is FAKE.
This is logic that can be followed and proven.
People are bailing on very poor DD... sure there is a chance that this is a scam. However, no more than there was before this last weekend based on the fraudulent efforts of some. I guess it worked on some.
Did anyone follow the link in the email? It is a C&D order aimed at CANADAY!!! from concerned residents in Missouri. Not Conversion Solutions.
It doesn't even mention HSWF Canaday's new involvement. It definitely does not mention CSHD.
FAKE document, FAKE email, FAKE email response.
quote:Chartwalker if it makes you feel anybetter, just remember MMs often use the charts against traders to make them buckle under fake pressure.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
and we are entering the "slow" part of the day...
great....
Anyone have good news??.. I HATE having to tell what the charts are saying so I think I'll just sideline for awhile.....
quote:Trade I suggest you do us all a favor and go back to the rest of your doomsday cult members. I think there's a spaceship waiting to pick you all up to heaven. LMFAO
Originally posted by trade04:
w/e guys i just thought we were a nice little group...but apparantly the group split right down the middle into sellers/holders Many have pMed me with the same overall consensus...its going down...ok FORGET ABOUT ALL THE FAKE STUFF....fact is the stock is going down , charts say it all
quote:Thats the attitude Chartwalker. Remember when one member panics it spreads like a disease to the weaker bunch in the group.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I can't wait to say we are at a bottom!! ha ha ~
quote:That works for me...since my buy order is in for .71...
Originally posted by trade04:
id call this weeks bottom .69!!!! woo hooooo
quote:We love you anyway, Chart, tell us the news! Not a bad time to average down for the believers....
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
and we are entering the "slow" part of the day...
great....
Anyone have good news??.. I HATE having to tell what the charts are saying so I think I'll just sideline for awhile.....
quote:the only way this hits .50 is if the news is confirmed, if that happens .50 will be a quick blurr on the way to .10 or below!!
Originally posted by tyleemary:
My buy order is in at .50
Not sure it will get that low, but just in case.
quote:I like ya luv... but my indicators have read this like a book today.... -sorry
Originally posted by luvforever:
Hello everyone... I know this is sinking ... but remember the
...charts can't be relied upon...
Isn't this what was said? I know they are doing what charts always do, but with this 10k if it ever shows up it will not be the charts ,right we either sell or buy so wait or go... Still no sick feeling as of yet but what do I know Good luck to all...STRENGTH ???? Do we have what it takes? FAITH???? hmmmm
quote:Wally, I appreciate your honesty over the last several months. I have watched people come and go the last several months and you have always been consistent. This whole experience has shown me who I can trust on these message boards (very few) but you are one of the few. Thank you for your great DD over the last several months. Just think, it's only the beginning of September!! Imagine what next weeks RUMORS will be!! GLTY my friend.
Originally posted by wallymac:
Just so there is no misunderstanding. I posted the email for the simple reason that everyone deserves to know. I have also posted my concerns as to it's validity. In no way am I attempting to influence anyone. Just hoping that the more people here that see what is going on the better the chance of us finding the answers.
GLTA
Wally
quote:Thank You. That means a lot to me.
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Wally, I appreciate your honesty over the last several months. I have watched people come and go the last several months and you have always been consistent. This whole experience has shown me who I can trust on these message boards (very few) but you are one of the few. Thank you for your great DD over the last several months. Just think, it's only the beginning of September!! Imagine what next weeks RUMORS will be!! GLTY my friend.
Originally posted by wallymac:
Just so there is no misunderstanding. I posted the email for the simple reason that everyone deserves to know. I have also posted my concerns as to it's validity. In no way am I attempting to influence anyone. Just hoping that the more people here that see what is going on the better the chance of us finding the answers.
GLTA
Wally
quote:For some reason, they included a ) on the end of the hyperlink. Remove it and you'll be fine:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
When I click on the hyperlink of Wally's response on the C&D order I get:
quote:so what's the analysis and bottom line with this link
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:For some reason, they included a ) on the end of the hyperlink. Remove it and you'll be fine:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
When I click on the hyperlink of Wally's response on the C&D order I get:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:For some reason, they included a ) on the end of the hyperlink. Remove it and you'll be fine:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
When I click on the hyperlink of Wally's response on the C&D order I get:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp
quote:this link is not directed at CVSU as the fake e-mail would have us believe... It's also not new. This is an old document. OurStreet or whoever it is is a complete dufus. I guess all his other stuff hasn't been working so he puts his neck waaaaayyyyy out on the line. kinda like someone addicted to something unhealty might do. He certianly has some reckoning to do.
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:so what's the analysis and bottom line with this link
Originally posted by milliam:
quote:For some reason, they included a ) on the end of the hyperlink. Remove it and you'll be fine:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
When I click on the hyperlink of Wally's response on the C&D order I get:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp
quote:I just called this phone #. Some lady answered the phone and said it was something like Ashguard Home and Communities? Don't think it's the right number.
Originally posted by milliam:
Who was it that was looking for HSWF's phone number? Well, here's the info from Crab's link:
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Canady Holdings, Inc.
1170 Peachtree Street Suite 1200
Atlanta, GA 30309
US
404-962-4416 fax: 404-759-2298
No idea if this is actually right or not, but I'll try and call it later to see.
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
404-962-4416
when I call this number it actually transfers me to 4485...it is not the HSWF.
When i spoke to the woman she said that Canady has not been there since october 2005...and yes she has been flooded with calls on this...
Take it FWIW
quote:I just tried this #. All circuits were busy. I'll try again in a minute, if someone else doesn't first.
Originally posted by wallymac:
Steven Canady, CEO 770-613-5399 scanady*bayoutech.com
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=594353895
quote:I've been trying to call and it has been busy...
Originally posted by cassity:
Wally, have you called the number yet?
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
First thing I notice is that the build number for Microsoft Outlook is different in the X-Mailer than what was posted above. Above he did not have one listed, and you have 11.0.5510
I am looking up intermedia.com
quote:What do you mean went bad?
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Here is something else I found I am starting to wonder if Ben went bad.
"He is the president of Innovations Publishing, LLC, which catalogs and follows emerging ventures in the Southeast. Subscribers to its online service include investors, entrepreneurs, and service providers. Innovations Publishing is a Research Partner of the Center for Entrepreneurship and Corporate Growth at Emory University's Goizueta Business School.
"
http://cache.zoominfo.com/cachedpage/?archive_id=0&page_id=275499535&page_url=%2 f%2fwww.cordovaventures.com%2fpartners%2fdyer_bio.html&page_last_updated=4%2f3%2 f2006+5%3a59%3a37+PM&firstName=Ben&lastName=Dyer
quote:Oh so it is...
Originally posted by betting babe:
intermedia.net = my host
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
First thing I notice is that the build number for Microsoft Outlook is different in the X-Mailer than what was posted above. Above he did not have one listed, and you have 11.0.5510
I am looking up intermedia.com
quote:Thanks BB!
Originally posted by betting babe:
TAX,
can you tell me how you connected these? do you have a link?
"Basically I took hsworldfoundation.com and found...
bayoutech.com and took it and found...
bioscienceinnovations.com was registered by
Intellimedia Commerce
Ben Dyer"
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Thanks BB!
Originally posted by betting babe:
TAX,
can you tell me how you connected these? do you have a link?
"Basically I took hsworldfoundation.com and found...
bayoutech.com and took it and found...
bioscienceinnovations.com was registered by
Intellimedia Commerce
Ben Dyer"
You made me retrace my steps and low and behold I took a wrong turn. good I could have been on that one all day. Steve Canaday's Zoom Info had a web listing as CEO and a link to bioscienceinnovations.com, but clicking on the page it just looks like a Bayou Tech listing on an old innovationspublishing.com page. The connection looks to be nothing at this point. I still want more info on S. Canaday these site registrations are pretty transparent, I should be able to get something if I keep digging.
Ben Dyer = Clean (for the moment)
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quote:My gut says many of the longs in this are new, and worried about losing their investments. Maybe if it had reset by now, no biggie, not to mention there are other stocks coming up on the radar as being good plays. There again, we need some news from the company...maybe Rufus is letting it bottom out so to speak so he shakes loose the non-faithful profit takers and the MMs have a chance to cover.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Charts are weak...
This ""should"" be the stock to be in IMO,
-SHO list
-Bill$$ deals...
-and looks like we'll be heading into the .70 cents again?!!
Looks like a sell off at EOD....
And this, just DAYS before we reopen at $54 a share?!!
What's wrong with this picture?..
-I think I'm starting to crack! -or see the light.
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
you won't need mine...
Why do you think I'm in panic mode?........................
quote:AGREED!! I'm nervously holding onto my shares and have a buy in at .75 if it falls. I don't know why I'm really nervous other than the fact that some of these people are hard to get a hold of.
Originally posted by dog:
I'm waiting... I have not seen any facts to dissuade me yet. And I'm down 7 grand.
The stuff released this weekend by Our-Street is no where near being factual IMO.
Let others panic.... I'm nervous and want it to be over too, but not bailing...
quote:Even if 75% of the shareholders bail and the stock drops like a rock... it had better be with factual info.. or I'll be in the 25% still holding...
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:AGREED!! I'm nervously holding onto my shares and have a buy in at .75 if it falls. I don't know why I'm really nervous other than the fact that some of these people are hard to get a hold of.
Originally posted by dog:
I'm waiting... I have not seen any facts to dissuade me yet. And I'm down 7 grand.
The stuff released this weekend by Our-Street is no where near being factual IMO.
Let others panic.... I'm nervous and want it to be over too, but not bailing...
quote:lmao wait for the beep. its an answering machine
Originally posted by laker08:
honest to god, i called right now and he picked up. someone please call with legit questions to ask ben and post his answers here. someone credible....
quote:hehe it's not that i just don't have the important questions that we need to ask on top of my head.
Originally posted by trade04:
lol u guys are afraid of talking to corporite officers hahaha....
quote:well supposebly this guy called and answered MY questions. so we will see how this plays out...i on the other hand wanted to SAY something to him( nothing rude )
Originally posted by laker08:
quote:hehe it's not that i just don't have the important questions that we need to ask on top of my head.
Originally posted by trade04:
lol u guys are afraid of talking to corporite officers hahaha....
quote:HAHA
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I have a question for Ben....
"Good afternoon BEN... Where the F%$# is the
g&%#*% 10F%$ing K!!! You S&%$*#*!!!
LMAO!!!
quote:Sorry Crab I was "Out to Lunch..." litterally... LOL I know this is way off topic but I went to Sonic and had their new Spicy Southwest Super Sonic Burger. I know BB is a veggy-terian but let me tell you that was "One Spicy Meatball!!" It was good...
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
all of ya'll still waiting...or are the doubts compounding?
quote:LEAKING...RIGHT
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
my little flask is only showing half-full...i think it's leaking...damnit...
quote:Oh Good! In-hale ex-hale...
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
someone gave him a paper bag to breath into...he'll be fine...
quote:This was posted early monday morning. I know it doesn't answer any questions but I think there is some validity to it
Originally posted by Fonzy35:
For what ever it's worth:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Secrecy is Power. Everyone be patient. Yesterday certain events unfolded and it has been a battle trying to decide what should I say without breaking rules of confidentiality. For the sake of all of you I choose to be silent on certain details. All the negatives regarding C/D, Dr Mensah, the bonds, AISS, Lehman Bros. etc. is all false. There is absolutely no reason to doubt that everything will be exactly the way it has been said it will be for everyone, except that we might even see better surprises (we haven't been told what the new reset price is yet). All of this is very close now.
There is a plan and it could happen fast and when it does it will be a surprise in the swiftness and precision in its execution and all shareholders should benefit. No one will know until the very moment, and the shorts have no way of predicting the precise moment because the trap has already been sprung for the execution.
I will re-iterate here that everyone should follow the original plan of taking all of your stock completely out of circulation and avoid daytrading or flipping so MM's don't have access to any shares. Also avoid talking negatives on the forum because you are showing your hands to MM/s. You need them to be in suspense because they will be taken by complete surprise sooner than they expect.
Some of you will bash this post and for you I don't even feel pity. The ones that listen, power to you.
quote:this was also posted early monday morning in response to questions
Originally posted by timlaniryankristen:
FWIW
tut's been vague but accurate in his timing of posts to make one believe he does have access to information...
the moderator at HSM has spoken to tut and seems to trust him...
and this was posted by the moderator at HSM in response to tut's post:
Very important message here from Tut
I have been preaching all weekend, do not give the mm's one inch and let them guess what you are going to do. If they can read you like a book, they know how to play it on Tuesday or any other day. Tut has given you the same message if you read his statement. Take the voice of experience and learn from it.
regards
Mod
quote:atta girl..
Originally posted by betting babe:
CRab, did you ask what i was doing?
im holding & getting on with my day...
like i said, i've been up 10 grand, down 10 grand, round and round.
takes too much energy and worry to try to play it for small gains here & there.
nothing truly is being discussed here that isn't hearsay. even StMatt's phone convo had no substance, no offense.
i wont really be 'doing' anything til i see a legit legal filing or PR.
so, rather than trying to second-guess every move and feed the hysteria...
im just holding. not much else to say.
except burgers are gross Tax
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by
imapoorcollegestudent:
Let's get togather some questions for a phone call.
One I've been wanting to know about is the amount of form 144's filed. Why so many. And does this have anything to do with the price reset date???
Also are we working with a Market Maker to make the transition smooth and with little manipulation during the price reset?
Ima
quote:Not at all considering all the BS!
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Not a bad finish for the day.
quote:I've done a bit of research on the 144's. You will find a number of the names on the 144's from the 10K's filed by Furia and Fronthaul. Doesn't have anything to do with CSHD.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Let's get togather some questions for a phone call.
One I've been wanting to know about is the amount of form 144's filed. Why so many. And does this have anything to do with the price reset date???
Also are we working with a Market Maker to make the transition smooth and with little manipulation during the price reset?
Ima
quote:10-4 on dat!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
No 10-K just means we take 5 have a 12oz. with a T-bone decked out with some A-1. So just have a V-8 turn on Fox4 and catch some Pac10 vs Big12 10 on 10. We'll have our SB-4 and 10-K in some 5 to 10, then we can go shopp'n at BMW for a X5 or 750i.
quote:Sorry Tax...you have X5. I think you meant Z06.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
No 10-K just means we take 5 have a 12oz. with a T-bone decked out with some A-1. So just have a V-8 turn on Fox4 and catch some Pac10 vs Big12 10 on 10. We'll have our SB-4 and 10-K in some 5 to 10, then we can go shopp'n at BMW for a X5 or 750i.
quote:Nope I meant X5 but if you want a Z06 that's A'OK with me.
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Sorry Tax...you have X5. I think you meant Z06.
quote:You takin me for a ride too, Tax?
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Nope I meant X5 but if you want a Z06 that's A'OK with me.
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Sorry Tax...you have X5. I think you meant Z06.
My family is 5 and a dog so I need a bit more space.
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/x5/48is/default
quote:Yeah those are nice too. I think I saw a T-Rex eat one in Jurasic Park II. LOL They take a lick'n and keep on tick'n according to Hollwood.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
no, no, no...you want one of these...forget the BMW nonsense...
http://www.mbusa.com/models/main.do?modelCode=GL450
quote:Ben Stanley was the Chief Operating Officer/Investor Rel., while Rufus Harris was the CEO, of Waatle Holdings Corp., from an article last year
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13119803
jeese...and i've had enough for the day on this one, lol...
quote:They deleted it. Anything important?
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13119803
jeese...and i've had enough for the day on this one, lol...
quote:just bought my wife an X5, she loves it!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
No 10-K just means we take 5 have a 12oz. with a T-bone decked out with some A-1. So just have a V-8 turn on Fox4 and catch some Pac10 vs Big12 10 on 10. We'll have our SB-4 and 10-K in some 5 to 10, then we can go shopp'n at BMW for a X5 or 750i.
quote:not funny tylee...
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Hi, Mario Pino here.
Just want to thank you all from the beach.
quote:I just emailed him back and told him exactly that. IRREVOCABLE TRUST!!! and told him he made a brutal mistake.
Originally posted by betting babe:
irrevocable trust?
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:well now that his entry fee has been declared the bashing shouldnt be too far behind. LOL
Originally posted by driver4t3:
quote:9:15 on the west coast, I do spend time on the boards, briefing over information, I hold an o.k. stake in cshd, waiting, not wondering, just checking in from time to time..
Originally posted by betting babe:
either you are passive agressive, or subtle. at least that's what i thought the 1st time u posted
what brings ya to the board at midnite on a holleeday for your 3rd-ever post 4T3?
~BB
sceptor, you don't know me, I have declared my position, so to you this means bashing must commence??? I guess there must be "real psychics" on this board, so, when is our 10-k going to surface, I need a new car. j/k have a great day.
quote:
Originally posted by driver4t3:
dollar 13 made a post, thought he was helping, you guy's call him a basher, WOW, defensive, who is bashing who ......
quote:no way...
Originally posted by a surfer:
YES on HSM!! He posted his email adress on a post. However in his post he suggested more of a pump.
I will try to find the exact post, it may take a few...
Hell glass send him a friendly e-mail, I am sure he will respond!! LOL
quote:So this guy sold 170,000 shares of CSHD today? What did he do it in 2500 blocks?
Originally posted by 10of13:
"That Letter"
Hmmm...
170,000 shares of CSHD at an average cost of 1.14.
And a "good friend" of his is a "good friend" of Rufas's? Wow...ya woulda thunk that a "good friend" would let ya know early on to buy...not after it's over a buck...but more like around .35 or.50 cents...if not before???
But hey...maybe he bought when it was really low and added more when it was really high...
I also find it really strange that "all of these peeps" are always talking to just any body that calls...and then they make these supposed almost slanderous remarks of others...I am baffled that this "really" happens...talk about drama....???
quote:And all after only recently showing up as a "long" himself. I smell a secondary attack.
Originally posted by a surfer:
Its as though he was looking for longs, searching them out, then giving them the dump in his e-mail!!
Come on Glass give him a quick hello letter!!
quote:EXACTLY... Un fricken real!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
So surfer...this guy introduces himself on 9-5 at 12.35 a.m. raving of the "great Outcome" and then on the same day he emails a bunch of people saying doom and gloom? Please? Is that the time line of this guys posts and emails? LMAO!
quote:exactly 5:55 p.m. today!! so in six plus hours the whole world turned sour for this fello! LOL
Originally posted by dog:
Surfer... at what time did St. Bart respond to you?
quote:This is all so bizzare.. Reporters talking about lawsuits and having the only access to Canady even after he blasted him in the article on HSWF in the Post. He came as close to calling him and everyone involved with HSWF a scam artist without putting it in those exact words. We have CEO's of a couple of companies talking about private business matters with people they never had contact with before. Phone conversations being recorded and business allies bashing each other in private phone calls. Not one PR from Georgia Aerospace or HSWF denouncing CSHD. Yet they haven't bothered to take the PR annoucing their deal with CSHD off the website. http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/
Originally posted by portman:
Glass,
That conversation was news to me. I know of no recording but I would love to listen to it. So if you find it I am very interested.
Why would boyd comment on a pending lawsuit to a total stranger? Please...once you start these things you shut up about them.
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
In my first post I stated that this was the very first individual stock I have ever purchased...I wasn't kidding. I'm still in, even averaged down and added to my position. All I can say is what a f'n stock to start with. This can not be normal.
quote:Remember my post from awhile back?
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:This is all so bizzare.. Reporters talking about lawsuits and having the only access to Canady even after he blasted him in the article on HSWF in the Post. He came as close to calling him and everyone involved with HSWF a scam artist without putting it in those exact words. We have CEO's of a couple of companies talking about private business matters with people they never had contact with before. Phone conversations being recorded and business allies bashing each other in private phone calls. Not one PR from Georgia Aerospace or HSWF denouncing CSHD. Yet they haven't bothered to take the PR annoucing their deal with CSHD off the website. http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/
Originally posted by portman:
Glass,
That conversation was news to me. I know of no recording but I would love to listen to it. So if you find it I am very interested.
Why would boyd comment on a pending lawsuit to a total stranger? Please...once you start these things you shut up about them.
Absolutely crazy. The C&D is even crazier. Over a Billion dollars in bonds at stake but you don't pay a lawyer a few hundred bucks to draft and serve it. If anyone wrote this script for Hollywood and it somehow made it on the screen people would find it totally unbelievable yet here we are.
Too many rumors no REAL verifiable confirmation of anything anywhere. I have no idea how this will turn out. It just very very bizzare.
GLTA
Wally
quote:The funniest thing is that I bought in because of the Log deal. Not because I believed it but figured the stock would get a nice bump from the interview on *** where Fronthaul was scheduled to gives us breaking news on the deal. Well they never gave that news during the interview and I ended up holding for a few extra days and then lo and behold the reverse merger. I was hooked. I have made some pretty good money here and am still holding a few shares but I never had the least bit of an idea how tangled this web would get.
Originally posted by glassman:
This can not be normal.
we may see more of this instead of less...
some WILD SPECULATION on my part here?
------------------------------------------
when they were talking about trees in the amazon? i was not impressed...
that may have been the "bait" for the short-sellers tho....
it sounded just like another pumpandump...
but when they did the reverse merger? that changed the dynamic considerably...
------------------------------------------------
end of speculation, for now,anyway
quote:yep....
Originally posted by dog:
T R A P
quote:good post...
Originally posted by glassman:
One thing I can say about this: Someone; be it Rufus, Ben, Tim Miles, The Shorts , the Longs; is going to get hurt big time when the truth comes out on this.
yes, and one of the screwy parts in this one is all the phone numbers being posted all over the net...
people have a right to do DD,
BUT?
nobody is entitled to insider info... NOBODY...
if i was trying to mess this deal up? i'd be posting this stuff too..
on the other hand?
DD is DD....
quote:LOL.
Originally posted by betting babe:
that was a lotta catching up considering the market is cloooooosed!
1-800-LIT-HIUM
quote:i guys sorry about yesterday but seem to me like this is becoming a FBI investigation.
Originally posted by betting babe:
68.142.236.182 = CALIFORNIA, SUNNYVALE INKTOMI CORPORATION (ISP)
is that u surfer or the origin?
quote:looks like somebody is using a PC at work
Originally posted by betting babe:
68.142.236.182 = CALIFORNIA, SUNNYVALE INKTOMI CORPORATION (ISP)
is that u surfer or the origin?
quote:what happened yesterday dollar?
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i guys sorry about yesterday but seem to me like this is becoming a FBI investigation.
Originally posted by betting babe:
68.142.236.182 = CALIFORNIA, SUNNYVALE INKTOMI CORPORATION (ISP)
is that u surfer or the origin?
LOL
quote:uh-OH...
Originally posted by betting babe:
that was a lotta catching up considering the market is cloooooosed!
1-800-LIT-HIUM
quote:It wasn't wasted. I got a luagh out of it.
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:uh-OH...
Originally posted by betting babe:
that was a lotta catching up considering the market is cloooooosed!
1-800-LIT-HIUM
sarcasm is a dangerous thang to waste...
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:It wasn't wasted. I got a luagh out of it.
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:uh-OH...
Originally posted by betting babe:
that was a lotta catching up considering the market is cloooooosed!
1-800-LIT-HIUM
sarcasm is a dangerous thang to waste...
lol...
you got a what?
WIPE YOUR NOSE...
this *is* mixed company
Wally
quote:relax dollar... we are just having fun with the puzzles..
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS
i just post something than you all already knew about
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
make it stop.
calgon, take me away...
im getting old. at a faster rate the more i read this thread.
quote:yeah, bet we'll never see another play quite like this again...
Originally posted by betting babe:
make it stop.
calgon, take me away...
im getting old. at a faster rate the more i read this thread.
quote:Never say never.
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:yeah, bet we'll never see another play quite like this again...
Originally posted by betting babe:
make it stop.
calgon, take me away...
im getting old. at a faster rate the more i read this thread.
quote:ROGER that GLASS
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:relax dollar... we are just having fun with the puzzles..
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS
i just post something than you all already knew about
IMO? most people should no longer be that worried...
they've either seen enough to scare 'em off? or they are waiting to read SEC filings...
the price is not fluctuating as much as it would if there were a lot of really nervous people still in this...
quote:from my perspective?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:yeah, bet we'll never see another play quite like this again...
Originally posted by betting babe:
make it stop.
calgon, take me away...
im getting old. at a faster rate the more i read this thread.
quote:No doubt Chart... I have been on a few that were crazy, but this is plain rediculous. None of the chit they are throwing at CSHD is sticking.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
At least the more we read and think about this stuff, the more BS we see!
Still LONG.
quote:get off my back, maybe if you didnt all post so damn much i would be able to see things like this...im not gonna sift through anything, i got it from ihub
Originally posted by wallymac:
Trade04:
Why do you continually repost articles on here that have already been posted discussed and then repost them. It seems you do have an agenda. I wonder what it is. Please do a little DD and provide us with NEW info instead of rehashing what seems to fit your agenda.
Wally
quote:BEST ADVICE EVER GIVEN FROM ONE HUMAN TO ANOTHER!
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:get off my back, maybe if you didnt all post so damn much i would be able to see things like this...im not gonna sift through anything, i got it from ihub
Originally posted by wallymac:
Trade04:
Why do you continually repost articles on here that have already been posted discussed and then repost them. It seems you do have an agenda. I wonder what it is. Please do a little DD and provide us with NEW info instead of rehashing what seems to fit your agenda.
Wally
quote:I saw that gr8DD today ......................
Originally posted by trade04:
i saw it over there because someone reposted it...you guys normally dilute any hard info with blah blah blah blah...lol like how im doing right now...37 pages of chat 2 probawbly of dd bahah anyway its been a long day
quote:ya, trade...you're so spot on? the rest of us are embarrassed...
Originally posted by trade04:
i saw it over there because someone reposted it...you guys normally dilute any hard info with blah blah blah blah...lol like how im doing right now...37 pages of chat 2 probawbly of dd bahah anyway its been a long day
quote:wow...we're getting different stories...lol--didju check IDs?
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok u guys well im off for the night. i invited rufus over for bbq burgers and he just got here, and he said it was a really long day with all you guys calling and stuff and him & ben had to fire the secretary cuz she gave away too much info, but he says everything is really good and fwiw he didnt really do any work on the deal today cuz they've all been solid and done for a long time he just spends his day reading the boards and they lafffff and they lafffff and, well, they dont want the entertainment to end.
really. trust me. i have 400bazillion restricted shares that he gave me cuz, well, hes just a really really nice guy and he cares
so anywayz were going to bed cuz hes gotta get up early, something about a 10 something and a contract...
goodnite y'alls.
oh. and dont tell anyone. ok?
~BB
quote:The high point was we didn't tank.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
The lowest part of the day was the Rufus baby thing...
The highest part of the day was... -was there one?
lol ~
Let's see what tomorrow may bring!
goodnight board ~
quote:.............
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok u guys well im off for the night. i invited rufus over for bbq burgers and he just got here, and he said it was a really long day with all you guys calling and stuff and him & ben had to fire the secretary cuz she gave away too much info, but he says everything is really good and fwiw he didnt really do any work on the deal today cuz they've all been solid and done for a long time he just spends his day reading the boards and they lafffff and they lafffff and, well, they dont want the entertainment to end.
really. trust me. i have 400bazillion restricted shares that he gave me cuz, well, hes just a really really nice guy and he cares
so anywayz were going to bed cuz hes gotta get up early, something about a 10 something and a contract...
goodnite y'alls.
oh. and dont tell anyone. ok?
~BB
.......Good fortune to you BB and all the rest of the serious folks here on Allstocks doing their own DD and keeping on point to deal with solid data that has been verified. GLTA
quote:you are officially the coolest internet geek/model/Mensa candidate/investor/mattress salesperson I've ever communicated with...
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah it goes bowww chicca boww bowwwww
quote:G'Nite buddy:D
Originally posted by dollar13:
good nite guys ..
quote:What link?
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
FWIW...
4 more form 144's have been posted tonight.
quote:Then why are you here? Just to play the forum ass?
Originally posted by trade04:
i saw it over there because someone reposted it...you guys normally dilute any hard info with blah blah blah blah...lol like how im doing right now...37 pages of chat 2 probawbly of dd bahah anyway its been a long day
). But hey, I admit to enjoying the theater. My wife on the other hand hates it.quote:Welcome...it's going to tank... sell me your shares!
Originally posted by Goodones:
I would have already sold all of my shares, but there is too many people wanting me to sell. Bashers work 24/7 trying to convince everyone to sell, why? I would like to think everyone is looking out in the best interest of fellow investors, but that is probably naïve. My belief is the bashers are hired by the MMs to help them cover. So this time I will hold what someone else wants, my shares.
lol
quote:It doesn't really matter. At this point until the 10K any bad news is FAKE news and we'll dissect it anyway. Any good news: well can only work in our favor. Lets get ready to rumbleeeeeeeee!!!!!
Originally posted by dog:
I wonder what "news" we'll get today? I am half tempted to turn the computer off.
I must admit.. along with the stress, this is actually quite entertaining.
I'm trying to perfect my reading of the bull**** meter.
quote:Good luck with that. The Bullchit Meter topped out about three and a half weeks ago when Da Lemon made their stand. Currently the Meter seems to be stuck and I think "she just might blow!"
Originally posted by dog:
I wonder what "news" we'll get today? I am half tempted to turn the computer off.
I must admit.. along with the stress, this is actually quite entertaining.
I'm trying to perfect my reading of the bull**** meter.
quote:Glad to see your back to your old self Chart. Yesterday I thought you were gonna jump off the ledge of the building.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I hope now that the latest BS is out of the way that we can enjoy that upward pressure we were enjoying before...
Guess we'll see...
I'm NOT going to pull up a chart today, I'm in it for the deal, not the PPS right now.
I'm glad to that there isn't alot of Fluffy PR's, that makes me think Rufus is holding the Ace in the hole. Scams come with fluff IMO.
Hope so!!
Now give us our uptrend back! ha ~
quote:Honestly, me too. I am glad those aliens completed all their probing and returned you. That replacement was a bit skiddish. LOL
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:Glad to see your back to your old self Chart. Yesterday I thought you were gonna jump off the ledge of the building.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I hope now that the latest BS is out of the way that we can enjoy that upward pressure we were enjoying before...
Guess we'll see...
I'm NOT going to pull up a chart today, I'm in it for the deal, not the PPS right now.
I'm glad to that there isn't alot of Fluffy PR's, that makes me think Rufus is holding the Ace in the hole. Scams come with fluff IMO.
Hope so!!
Now give us our uptrend back! ha ~
quote:Really repo... we don't have time for this. Go do your DD and come back. We have to keep our eye on the massive volume today.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Is this the stock run by some guy named Rufus? The new Mario Pino?
quote:NiCEEEEEE!!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
lol ~~
Well wadeinni.. ha ha ~
What can I say?...
Sleep is GOOD!! ha ~
Actually it is holding well today...
quote:Just welcoming all the wonderful people that have come here to watch us make money.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
massive volume today no
quote:Shhhhhhhhhh... people are trading.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok, one more question. Is this the stock that was supposed to be at $15 / share after the merger?
quote:LMAO, Repo until this day I still don't know why you enable your star rating feature. You know everyones gonna give you one star just for being a constant Ahole. You do great DD, I've seen your posts since I've registered back in 2004, but why waste time with the stars dawg??
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok, one more question. Is this the stock that was supposed to be at $15 / share after the merger?
quote:LMAO
Originally posted by dog:
Mirror trades all day ..... kinda like financial masturbation.
quote:Well then it should be over in a minute or two
Originally posted by dog:
Mirror trades all day ..... kinda like financial masturbation.
quote:Great!
Originally posted by dog:
Hey... now I'm in a cult! I always wanted to be in one of those.
quote:Is our spaceship coming to lift us up?
Originally posted by dog:
Hey... now I'm in a cult! I always wanted to be in one of those.
quote:Options:
Originally posted by dog:
Hey... now I'm in a cult! I always wanted to be in one of those.
quote:You forgot the .. "GOT CMKX?" Tee-shirt!
Originally posted by portman:
quote:Options:
Originally posted by dog:
Hey... now I'm in a cult! I always wanted to be in one of those.
Pill : Red or Blue
KoolAid: Cherry Only | Sweetened or Unsweetened
Space Ship: Isle or Window.
Welcome to the Cult of CSHD
quote:In that case keep it going, who's our prophet???
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
maybe the cult talk is working
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
quote:Chartwalker??
Originally posted by SherriT:
Alright you chart aficionados...where are those lines of support and resistance?
quote:To the moon??? oh wait, that's another stock.
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:Is our spaceship coming to lift us up?
Originally posted by dog:
Hey... now I'm in a cult! I always wanted to be in one of those.
quote:CSHD = Crazy Southern Horse Disease
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
does anyone remember a name of any of Rufus's horses. We could then call it the Horse's Mouth Cult or Horse's Ass Cult which ever you prefer.
quote:He's not new. He asks snide questions to be a smart azz. It's just that we have DD'd this thing to death... unless it's new and verifiable fact, we chalk it up to manipulation.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
quote:I understand. Not trying to make enemies. Thanks!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:He's not new. He asks snide questions to be a smart azz. It's just that we have DD'd this thing to death... unless it's new and verifiable fact, we chalk it up to manipulation.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
It's a kind of believe it if you want at this point... and would help to read all of the pages in this thread. It is difficult for us to refernce past work as we are tired.
quote:Who wants to read 40 pages of posts, especially when 3/4 are cheerleading, pumping, cult activities, etc.??? Give the summation!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:He's not new. He asks snide questions to be a smart azz. It's just that we have DD'd this thing to death... unless it's new and verifiable fact, we chalk it up to manipulation.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
It's a kind of believe it if you want at this point... and would help to read all of the pages in this thread. It is difficult for us to refernce past work as we are tired.
quote:Major ones at 1.04 and 1.13
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I know we went over .85 once what's it look like if we really break .85?
quote:Oh those were the days, frat parties etc etc
Originally posted by dog:
hey... cheerleaders, pumping, cult activities?
Sounds like college.
quote:40 pages? That wont even cover the $15 question you asked. That would be covered back in one of the 100+ threads.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Who wants to read 40 pages of posts, especially when 3/4 are cheerleading, pumping, cult activities, etc.??? Give the summation!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:He's not new. He asks snide questions to be a smart azz. It's just that we have DD'd this thing to death... unless it's new and verifiable fact, we chalk it up to manipulation.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
It's a kind of believe it if you want at this point... and would help to read all of the pages in this thread. It is difficult for us to refernce past work as we are tired.
quote:How about the first post on the first page? Don't try to act like you were just asking a question.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Who wants to read 40 pages of posts, especially when 3/4 are cheerleading, pumping, cult activities, etc.??? Give the summation!
quote:Wow..that was as nice as it gets from him..proud of ya Repo! (yah I know ya don't care..
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank you. I do come off snide because I am blunt. I don't have time to try to sell you steak knives for information. Give me what I ask and I won't hang around bashing.
With that said, see you all at $54.
)
quote:See, now that was just a childish comment. Good example.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank you. I do come off snide because I am blunt. I don't have time to try to sell you steak knives for information. Give me what I ask and I won't hang around bashing.
With that said, see you all at $54.
quote:Naw, ill let you burn for that one.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
No one feels like milking the Holly Springs Baptist Church for information?
quote:It would be interesting to know if Rufus was a member of that church!
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Naw, ill let you burn for that one.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
No one feels like milking the Holly Springs Baptist Church for information?
quote:Isn't that like sacriledge or something?? The cult bombarding the church?
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
No one feels like milking the Holly Springs Baptist Church for information?
quote:There are LOTS of Holly Springs Baptist Churches across the country I would wager...I can think of at least three right now.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
Ok...I just have to point this out...speaking of cults and the like...
Of the four 144's that ima talked about last night...I just happened to look at them...
One was the biggest yet 585,500 shares...for one Michael Hammer(porn star perhaps?)...
The funny thing is...75k were submitted by the Holly Springs Baptist Church...now if someone wants they could call and bug the church and maybe get some info out of them? is that wrong?
i think this is it...it's in NC...
http://www.hollyspringsbaptist.org/
quote:I just bought 125 at .86. As soon as I placed the order I saw it queued AND the ask was .84. Then my little order made it jump back to .86. If we all bought $100.00 worth of stock at .02 above the ask we could be at $1.00 before noon. IMO.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I know we went over .85 once what's it look like if we really break .85?
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
Rufus is not available yet ... the babe hasn't wakened him up! LOL
Good morning! ... glad we're over yesterday!
quote:Hope this what you where asking for:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:I've done a bit of research on the 144's. You will find a number of the names on the 144's from the 10K's filed by Furia and Fronthaul. Doesn't have anything to do with CSHD.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Let's get togather some questions for a phone call.
One I've been wanting to know about is the amount of form 144's filed. Why so many. And does this have anything to do with the price reset date???
Also are we working with a Market Maker to make the transition smooth and with little manipulation during the price reset?
Ima
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000008%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C01%255C19%255 C&symbol=CSHD
quote:
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
The funny thing is...75k were submitted by the Holly Springs Baptist Church...now if someone wants they could call and bug the church and maybe get some info out of them? is that wrong?
i think this is it...it's in NC...
http://www.hollyspringsbaptist.org/
quote:So...Dog...you were dreaming about me? Why Me?
Originally posted by dog:
Good Morning.
I had a dream that St. Matthew rescued me from a boat that was slowly sinking....
quote:Uh OHHH, I feel a Barry White slow jam fading in
Originally posted by StMatthew:
quote:So...Dog...you were dreaming about me? Why Me?
Originally posted by dog:
Good Morning.
I had a dream that St. Matthew rescued me from a boat that was slowly sinking....
quote:40?..did you say 40? lol... well over 400 buddy.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Who wants to read 40 pages of posts, especially when 3/4 are cheerleading, pumping, cult activities, etc.??? Give the summation!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:He's not new. He asks snide questions to be a smart azz. It's just that we have DD'd this thing to death... unless it's new and verifiable fact, we chalk it up to manipulation.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
It's a kind of believe it if you want at this point... and would help to read all of the pages in this thread. It is difficult for us to refernce past work as we are tired.
quote:Well, just try to remember this little fact...
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank you. I do come off snide because I am blunt. I don't have time to try to sell you steak knives for information. Give me what I ask and I won't hang around bashing.
With that said, see you all at $54.
quote:Now that would be funny...let 'em bring it on!
Originally posted by cool AZ:
I don't know stockstar ... they might acuse us of some sort of manipulation. LOL
quote:A little kindness, respect, and active participation would be welcome, eh?
Originally posted by portman:
quote:Well, just try to remember this little fact...
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank you. I do come off snide because I am blunt. I don't have time to try to sell you steak knives for information. Give me what I ask and I won't hang around bashing.
With that said, see you all at $54.
We don't work for you.
quote:Read this post...had to run real quick and came back and you took it away? What's up? didn't lead where you were hopin?
Originally posted by betting babe:
.
quote:Sorry BB...bad timing on my part...good job on yours.
Originally posted by betting babe:
hey, nothing like burying my DD StMatt.
let me repost it, with the new DD that is a reaaaaally interesting coincidence. or not
then i gotta get outta here, wish i had more time to dig.
this all makes me feel like something far bigger has gone on than we could put together...
~BB
quote:I agree.The best ways to learn are to read and ask questions, it's just people are very wary of anyone coming here to just stir up the pot.
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:I don't like the way he worded this, but I think his point was that it's very difficult for this board to pay any attention to people who are not in this "group". I have also asked questions that almost always go ignored. Not slamming anyone here, but there is some truth to what he says. I'm new to this and probably ask some questions sometimes that may be lame to some of you, but I only ask them if I can't come up with the answer myself. I have a lot of respect for MANY of you in this group. There's no doubt that there is a lot of talent here, but sometimes reaching out to new people would be nice.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
My stars are unaffected at this point... stuck at 2. And thanks for NOT answering my questions... first sign of a cult. I'm outta here.
Sorry, not trying to slam, cut-down or bash anyone or anything here, just I see the same thing at times. GLTA
quote:No wonder they have garnered so many enemies.
Originally posted by dog:
Sooooo..... a religous right, Republican financial wizard trying to make some money funding Gov. contracts to support the military in a fight against terror?
Sounds normal to me.
quote:Make them big by clicking "detach" then "clone" tab as many as you want. You can also just double click the very top blue header to make it full screen.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Thanks Chart
I did get a chance to check out the prophet website for the charts you were mentioning. I also put in your adjustments.
Is there a way to make the chart bigger??? It's just so small. I likke the feel of my Power Etrade pro charts better I just can't get the CSHD chart pre Ticker change
I'm off to go hiking with my girlfreind.
Also I hope you all have fun studiing 144's. No time now.
My girlfreind will not like that I'm still at my peuwter.
Don't let anything bad happen while I'm gone.
I'd love to come back to a nice EOD run.
See ya then!!!
Ima
quote:Man now thats what I call a good DD. Nice find catia.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Hmmmm, ok so we seem to believe that these 144's are all related to Furia....likely from back in the day right?
Look here
http://northdallashigh.com/0HomePage/Newsletters/newsletterjan04.htm
Look for the Duron family...a few of them filed 144s recently. Marciano being one of them. He is apparently from this company http://www.rockyduron.com
But, the interesting thing is. Read the names just following Marciano and Ruth Duron in the North Dallas High link above. Tell me what you find.
quote:But Marciano was given restricted shares by Furia, not Rufus. Follow me?
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
DING, DING, DING...
Paul Harris come one dowwwwwwwwwwn...
Ok...so we know Rufus takes care of old classmates and church folk...good guy...
quote:Nice find CAT, but nice guy or not he needs to give us our price reset and then I'll call him a good guy:)
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Hmmmm, ok so we seem to believe that these 144's are all related to Furia....likely from back in the day right?
Look here
http://northdallashigh.com/0HomePage/Newsletters/newsletterjan04.htm
Look for the Duron family...a few of them filed 144s recently. Marciano being one of them. He is apparently from this company http://www.rockyduron.com
But, the interesting thing is. Read the names just following Marciano and Ruth Duron in the North Dallas High link above. Tell me what you find.
quote:Is this a good thing or bad????
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
So Rufus knew everything about Furia prior...is that what you're pokin at?
I think this definately reinforces that...
quote:The only thing i cant confirm is why "our" Paul Harris would be there. It says 49/50/51 reunion but our Rufus claimed to be what...38? It doesnt say he was there as an alumni so its possible but no confirmed link so far. Its another one of those crazy coincidences?
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Man now thats what I call a good DD. Nice find catia.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Hmmmm, ok so we seem to believe that these 144's are all related to Furia....likely from back in the day right?
Look here
http://northdallashigh.com/0HomePage/Newsletters/newsletterjan04.htm
Look for the Duron family...a few of them filed 144s recently. Marciano being one of them. He is apparently from this company http://www.rockyduron.com
But, the interesting thing is. Read the names just following Marciano and Ruth Duron in the North Dallas High link above. Tell me what you find.
quote:So far it looks good. It reinforces the idea that they laid a trap for the shorters that cost rufus a lot of money during his bban days.
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:Is this a good thing or bad????
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
So Rufus knew everything about Furia prior...is that what you're pokin at?
I think this definately reinforces that...
quote:Yep!
Originally posted by glassman:
Is this a good thing or bad????
i pointed out in July that Furia had deliberately defaulted on financing deals...
as in, not by accident, and not by circumstance beyond their control...
quote:I remember that. What's your take on that, Glass?
Originally posted by glassman:
Is this a good thing or bad????
i pointed out in July that Furia had deliberately defaulted on financing deals...
as in, not by accident, and not by circumstance beyond their control...
quote:Yea, it reminds me of my Warrior Capital concerns from some time ago. I dont like the idea that Rufus had his hands in this 2 years ago when Warrior Capital was "consulting". I would have thought Fronthaul would have made a big deal out of this back when i bought in but the only "joint venture" type of thing was that non profit org CEOTA. This is all kinda weird to me.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Cat...remember "in the begining" all the things that were pointing to the fact that "this" whole thing" seemed planned from a while back?
quote:yep, when you pay for it you'll see so many indicators it'll take a week to go through them all! But you can "tweak" change, overlay... -whatever you want, sky is the limit ~
Originally posted by milliam:
Chart...how do you get the TRIX indicator on your chart? I'm guessing in comes up when you actually pay for this stuff.
Thanks,
Milliam
quote:Daddy?
Originally posted by milliam:
I'm going to say this isn't our Paul Harris...although he is listed here as Paul R. Harriss, but the class 1950.
http://northdallashigh.com/classx/1950/50.htm
quote:Perhaps that is why he goes by "Rufas", rather than Paul...because dad was called Paul?...
Originally posted by milliam:
Was wondering that myself there 10...I don't recall him using jr. for anything, but who knows?
quote:I'm not a jr. but share the same first name w/my dad... fyi
Originally posted by milliam:
Was wondering that myself there 10...I don't recall him using jr. for anything, but who knows?
quote:short version:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
sceptor, what are bban days??
quote:Think about it... tell your buddies to go take over this weak company and get stock to help control it...show up 6 months later to reverse merge and funding.
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:Is this a good thing or bad????
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
So Rufus knew everything about Furia prior...is that what you're pokin at?
I think this definately reinforces that...
quote:Bah!! Wqy to go BB, take the wind out of my Warrior sail!!
Originally posted by betting babe:
Mr Catia, no offense, but havent we killed that warrior link with DD yet? without some background, it's a heckhole waiting to happen just throwing it out there.
man.
well, fwiw, i couldnt find any 'negatives' in the link, and i found plenty of companies that consulted w warrior that actually seemed happy with their services.
mrCatia found one man that says he was being followed, getting death threats, and seemed pretty dang disgruntled.
in a nutshell. it was all in a previous thread.
im off for a few hours, bye!
~BB
quote:yep...took off for 15min then just kinda petered out...someone probably just put in a 50k or 75k order...all I can figure...
Originally posted by dog:
hmm.... just stopped?
quote:It would be.. "fair" that they got their investment back.
Originally posted by glassman:
has anybody located where Mike Hammer got his shares?
i been reading the 10Ks and his name isn't exaclty slapping me in the face..
i see where a lot of the other people come from, by reading the annual reoprts, they helped bail Furia out...
and i think it's a GOOD sign that they are getting their money back for doing it...they took a risk on a business was definitely having problems...
reverse mergers ALWAYS have a few troublesome shareholders....
quote:Well, I did say that the MM's might try the old run up and down today.... ?
Originally posted by SherriT:
Where did that pop come from this afternoon?
quote:pssst it's the stockmarket. You are forced to take risks. Is this one within your limits?
Originally posted by P Rowds:
and hopefully his "agenda" for shorts works and doesn't screw us all over:D
quote:LOL well you know. We are all kind of crusty smelling these days. I got in on the log deal too.
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha... don't worry scept... well aware of that haha. i was fortunate to get in this pretty early. and, i do believe the sky is the limit...?
quote:Back from my hike!
Originally posted by milliam:
I'm going to say this isn't our Paul Harris...although he is listed here as Paul R. Harris, but the class 1950.
http://northdallashigh.com/classx/1950/50.htm
quote:Integrity Stock Transfer 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway Bldg 5 - Suite 527 Henderson, NV 89014 Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
Originally posted by 10of13:
Has anyone called the TA lately? Anyone have the number handy?
quote:1-877-317-7757
Originally posted by 10of13:
Has anyone called the TA lately? Anyone have the number handy?
quote:well, then let's get on with that 0.94 . . . times a wastin'
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
It jumps to .94 I think we'll see a dollar ~
quote:That's why I said maybe some news is coming....
Originally posted by dog:
10,000 block buys... above ask... wow
quote:Your starting to sound like a chart geek... GOOD FOR YOU!! ha ha ~ $$$$
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Yeah it does feel good! becasue of CSHD my portfolio made a little gain today!
Even though we dipped back down into the high 80's wew ended with a nice green candle stick after a spining top the previous day which was preceded by a downward trend. Looks like a reveersal pattern going on now. Should be a nice day tommorrow!
Could be real nice if we get the 10-thingy LOL!!!
A protion of some 10-K profit might really help out with School costs!
quote:How many weeks have I been reading that?
Originally posted by a surfer:
something good is happening..
, lol?
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
oh well it is still football.
quote:what? go wash that mouth out with soap. I get to watch one of our UCF grads toss the ole pigskin in a pro game, and I like that a lot.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
Ten players at first and ten on the opponents ten needing to make ten yards. Let's get this drive going. We go on ten. Hut, hut, hut hut hut, hut hut hut, hut, go ten kay hut!
Did I mention I like football. First game on Thursday! Miami vs Pittsburg...
quote:...that's college right? GO BEARS!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
Ten players at first and ten on the opponents ten needing to make ten yards. Let's get this drive going. We go on ten. Hut, hut, hut hut hut, hut hut hut, hut, go ten kay hut!
Did I mention I like football. First game on Thursday! Miami vs Pittsburg...
quote:nope thurs night game 1 of the 2006 season for the nfl.
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:...that's college right? GO BEARS!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
Ten players at first and ten on the opponents ten needing to make ten yards. Let's get this drive going. We go on ten. Hut, hut, hut hut hut, hut hut hut, hut, go ten kay hut!
Did I mention I like football. First game on Thursday! Miami vs Pittsburg...
quote:Repo,are you in? or no.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank you. I do come off snide because I am blunt. I don't have time to try to sell you steak knives for information. Give me what I ask and I won't hang around bashing.
With that said, see you all at $54.
?
quote:UCF, eh? I do believe those Golden Knights (is it?) are in my conference....of course, we (Southern Miss) got POUNDED by Florida Saturday...I think we play each other later in the year.
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:what? go wash that mouth out with soap. I get to watch one of our UCF grads toss the ole pigskin in a pro game, and I like that a lot.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
Ten players at first and ten on the opponents ten needing to make ten yards. Let's get this drive going. We go on ten. Hut, hut, hut hut hut, hut hut hut, hut, go ten kay hut!
Did I mention I like football. First game on Thursday! Miami vs Pittsburg...
Go Culpepper.
)quote:and yet you still read it again.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:How many weeks have I been reading that?
Originally posted by a surfer:
something good is happening..
quote:Tax is now banned from the city limits...Pittsburgh!
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:nope thurs night game 1 of the 2006 season for the nfl.
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:...that's college right? GO BEARS!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Just repeating imapoorcollegestudent, but yes I would like ten.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You want someone to give you a 10 thingy
Ten players at first and ten on the opponents ten needing to make ten yards. Let's get this drive going. We go on ten. Hut, hut, hut hut hut, hut hut hut, hut, go ten kay hut!
Did I mention I like football. First game on Thursday! Miami vs Pittsburg...
Go Culpepper!
quote:ha!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Welcome aboard Frank!
Lot's of great people here!
(A few strange ones to...
Look forward to trading with ya!
GLTY!
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:ha!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Welcome aboard Frank!
Lot's of great people here!
(A few strange ones to...
Look forward to trading with ya!
GLTY!
you mean a few , (very few)normal ones dontcha
quote:Oh there is a city I will miss visiting. LOL How about doubling the gift and ban me from Cleaveland too.
Originally posted by portman:
Tax is now banned from the city limits...Pittsburgh!
j/kquote:Normal? What's normal? We trade pennies is that normal?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:ha!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Welcome aboard Frank!
Lot's of great people here!
(A few strange ones to...
Look forward to trading with ya!
GLTY!
you mean a few , (very few)normal ones dontcha
quote:yep, we sure do need help
Originally posted by a surfer:
man you guys need help... LOL
quote:Damn you tracked me down!! LOL
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:yep, we sure do need help
Originally posted by a surfer:
man you guys need help... LOL
Brother, can you spare a quarter
million?
quote:Think that's the amazon log deal before CVSU bought fronthaul group but that never happened old news.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
LMAO
What is this business with CEOTA the other boards are talking about? Is it a new deal in the works?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13150933
quote:The ceota fellow didnt have the license he said he had (per Rufus on ***). They were still persuing it at last count. I would discount anything serfdom posts. He does nothing but bash the stock with half truths.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
LMAO
What is this business with CEOTA the other boards are talking about? Is it a new deal in the works?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13150933
quote:tax, that was my post, I loaded the boat back when the log deal was supposed to be something, however, WE got a much better deal....
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
LMAO
What is this business with CEOTA the other boards are talking about? Is it a new deal in the works?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13150933
quote:He's a symptom of the boards methods. I think they allow the bashing in order to create volitility so they can daytrade it. Since anyone can short it, most of the bashers are.
Originally posted by glassman:
serfdom once had some credibility too...
he pretty much destroyed any he had with me over the last few days..especially since he obvioulsy didn't do any DD until after he started "bashing" or whatever you want to call waht he's been doing...
mostly just being rude to people..
strange behaviour for someone who has been an assistant mod on other boards over there...
he knows the terms over there...
quote:I believe it was rumored long ago that CEOTA dropped the ball on the Amazon deal. They were supposed to be some major non-profit org that owned the "rights" to something along the lines of 100 miles of Amazon river to do the log recovery. Fronthaul was being hired to handle the logistics of the recovery. The odd part though is that CEOTA appeared to be "new" because they didnt seem to have much history. Also, the big kicker....the guy leading things from the CEOTA side was a friend of Mike Alexanders. Again, everything runs full circle.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
LMAO
What is this business with CEOTA the other boards are talking about? Is it a new deal in the works?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13150933
quote:I'll be picking this apart today... I'll keep you posted as to what I find ~
Originally posted by sceptor:
amohedas on hsm posted some example charts this morning. I looked at one in particular TBV as it looked like it had a price reset. It did.
-----------------------------------------------
So who's looked closely at TBV's chart? Say for the period of 9-22-03 to 10-01-03? Hmmmm anyone? It is the very thing we are doing here.
Tanshi reverse merged into Strategica and traded their shares for shares in strategica. The merger involved a restructuring with strategica being the "bankrupt shell" (just like fhal), and Tanshia being the company with the assets needed to jump start the pps (just like cvsu). You can read their 8-k from 9-03 and it describes all the stuff we are going thru here.
Look at the open and close for the date of 9-25, the price reset. Yes I said price reset.
quote:
chevy talked BEN CSHD COO
Posted by: chevyrider
In reply to: OzarkDareDevil who wrote msg# 68159 Date:9/7/2006 2:02:31 AM
Post #of 68260
For the record everyone my name on Paltalk is tanks1 and I called Ben this evening around 7:20pm on WEdnesday. I asked if everything was alright and he reassured me that it was. Then I asked when would everything be finalized and he told me that it would be completed before the deadline. What deadline I don't know. So anything these bashers say is just bashing and thats it.
Other board
Posted by: beachcracker
In reply to: chevyrider who wrote msg# 68160 Date: 9/7/2006 2:05:11 AM
Post #
Chevy, fairly brief conversation then? eom
Other board
Posted by: chevyrider
In reply to: beachcracker who wrote msg# 68162 Date: 9/7/2006 2:06:00 AM
Post #
Yes everyone on Paltalk heard the conversation.
Other board
quote:I was there. There was no announcement of the call. The information above is accurate and the call was very brief and polite on both sides.
Originally posted by sceptor:
I think this originated on ihub, but I am copying it from hsm...
quote:
chevy talked BEN CSHD COO
Posted by: chevyrider
In reply to: OzarkDareDevil who wrote msg# 68159 Date:9/7/2006 2:02:31 AM
Post #of 68260
For the record everyone my name on Paltalk is tanks1 and I called Ben this evening around 7:20pm on WEdnesday. I asked if everything was alright and he reassured me that it was. Then I asked when would everything be finalized and he told me that it would be completed before the deadline. What deadline I don't know. So anything these bashers say is just bashing and thats it.
Other board
Posted by: beachcracker
In reply to: chevyrider who wrote msg# 68160 Date: 9/7/2006 2:05:11 AM
Post #
Chevy, fairly brief conversation then? eom
Other board
Posted by: chevyrider
In reply to: beachcracker who wrote msg# 68162 Date: 9/7/2006 2:06:00 AM
Post #
Yes everyone on Paltalk heard the conversation.
Other board
quote:Let's not discount the symbol change...did they have to re-cert that? If so did that in itself create a soft landing?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Would've sucked to have unloaded at about $2.50 only to watch it rise and rise to the $13.00 mark weeks later!
So, there was no huge unloading and crashing of the stock, there was a "soft" sell off and taking of profits, then it looks like once that was out of the way, it took off slowly but surely ~
I wanted to study what happened BEFORE the reset, but with the symbol change the chart won't go back that far.... AGH!!!
Would have been interesting to see how the share price was screwed with! Compare volume, look for evidence of a short squeeze (low vol) followed by a covering of naked shorts.... Darn, that info would have been priceless!!!
-Well, there you have it ~
quote:I got into it with Serfdom because I felt he was kissing OURSTREET's azz too much. When OURSTREET was not on the IHUB board, Serfdom would drift back to being a believer, but when he was on, it was really sad to see all the bashers jump back in line with OURSTREET. This was one of the reasons I left that board.
Originally posted by glassman:
serfdom once had some credibility too...
he pretty much destroyed any he had with me over the last few days..especially since he obvioulsy didn't do any DD until after he started "bashing" or whatever you want to call waht he's been doing...
mostly just being rude to people..
strange behaviour for someone who has been an assistant mod on other boards over there...
he knows the terms over there...
quote:On the symbol chnage comment or just in general?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
portman.. not sure I get you..
It looks to me like they did the symbol change WITH the reset. Not a bad thing, just what they did...
quote:Well, you recovered ok right? I still have hope?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
gee Catia... -you sound like me the other day! lol ~
It does help to vent ~
we are still cool in the charts ~
quote:Knock it off Trade04, its too early for the BS. All your post are so eeerily similar to Banah18, he's another negative "I told you so" poster. He always show up to rub it in when the PPS goes down. Hmmm multiple ID's maybe??? Just a thought
Originally posted by trade04:
ummmm yeah someone said it WOULDNT go down this morning after a day like yesturday? guess i was RIGHT you were WRONG. I'm sure you thought as u watched...damn this guy was right....haha.
quote:Yea? You feel great cuz of that or was it the next line of that song that REALLY helps?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
catia.. "I get by with a little help from my friends.." -song
Heck yeah, feel great!
quote:Well, maybe they should hire that big black stud from the one photo of Rufus. Then we would be getting the info straight from the horses mouth ya know?
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I don't understand why they haven't hired an IR person or company either Mr. CAT... I hope they are giving it serious consideration so they can get back to business and give us our price reset!
quote:Last week I said it would go back down from 1.17.
Originally posted by trade04:
ummmm yeah someone said it WOULDNT go down this morning after a day like yesturday? guess i was RIGHT you were WRONG. I'm sure you thought as u watched...damn this guy was right....haha.
quote:Don't smoke!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
nope, didn't fly out to rat's place~ lol ~
quote:Yup!!
Originally posted by dog:
So we had 20 minutes of trading and then this again.... I'm afraid we'll sit here just like this until some news, and they may whittle it down like this each day.
quote:ok... i'm still digging, i have an extended lunch so i'll see what i can find but i have other things i need to take care of too...
Originally posted by sceptor:
amohedas on hsm posted some example charts this morning. I looked at one in particular TBV as it looked like it had a price reset. It did.
-----------------------------------------------
So who's looked closely at TBV's chart? Say for the period of 9-22-03 to 10-01-03? Hmmmm anyone? It is the very thing we are doing here.
Tanshi reverse merged into Strategica and traded their shares for shares in strategica. The merger involved a restructuring with strategica being the "bankrupt shell" (just like fhal), and Tanshia being the company with the assets needed to jump start the pps (just like cvsu). You can read their 8-k from 9-03 and it describes all the stuff we are going thru here.
Look at the open and close for the date of 9-25, the price reset. Yes I said price reset.
quote:Sorry old man!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat man!!!
great,... was getting boring ~
quote:intentional PUNN Ryan...
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
re-HASH rat.
quote:Is there any other way??
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
stay cool rat ~
quote:Yeah same here, can't sit here all day either, I'm holding my free shares. See ya'll tonight or tomorrow, gotta go run errands around NYC.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Sorry old man!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat man!!!
great,... was getting boring ~
I just stopped to say hello...
Now I gotta say see ya later!!!
Got to much chit on my plate this week..
This thing isn't goin anyplace for a few days anyways..
Later!!
quote:I agree with you as when I bought a miniscule amount (125 shares) yesterday above the ask the PPS jumped .02 cents for the next few minutes. As you said..."We are right on the edge" and just need a push.
Originally posted by portman:
Seems physiologically they can't let it run back to $1. Too much of a plus to the holders if they (MM) do. If we run they can try to control it like yesterday. If we started where we should have left off and ran we would hit the $1 mark.
I feel that to the point they can control this they will. One little nudge and some buying they lose control. We are right on the edge.
This is all just opinion.
quote:the sept 30th comes from the 10K being due 90 days after the end of the year. The end of the fiscal year was june 30th
Originally posted by jm430:
Chartwalker, quick question...
Where does the Sept. 30th deadline come from? Doesn't the 8k state there will be audited financials 60 days from filing of the 8k? That would make it the 11th, right? Thanks for any info.
quote:Yea, there were a few other names we all would recognize from those days as well but if i start adding them all then i would forget one person and hurt their feelings.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey Cat!!!
I'm honered that you placed me in your summary!!
I'm not sure it was a good thing, but honered non the less...
quote:You must have angered a basher. Way to go!
Originally posted by dog:
Hey! I just noticed I lost a star... damn LOL
quote:Dog...I just gave you your lost star...keep up the good work here.
Originally posted by dog:
Hey! I just noticed I lost a star... damn LOL
quote:He's a liar, and I like poking him with a sharp stick LOL
Originally posted by dog:
Sceptor is over on iHub duking it out with Serfdumb.
He must be bored.
My guess is Serfdom didn't like his past experience with Rufus and found a way to short this one. He has some monetary interest in this, despite stating that he doesn't own shares.
He is on that board from 8am to 2am most days, even on Labor Day. Not even a crazy person would do that unless money was involved.
quote:ChartWalker: I gave you a 5 *****, but it did not do any good...probably cause you have 24 ratings. Thanks for all you do anyway.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
dog.. that's what happens when you tell it like it is... Lost one too
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
morning everyone, looks like no PR last night:( Chart, here is the chart reading instructions you posted yesterday! Thanks for the great info:)
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posted August 30, 2006 12:29 PM
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Free charts like I use, not all the bells and whistles but nice LEARNING TOOL!!!!!!!!
Rat, time we update your caveman azz ways! ha ha~
jk ~
http://www.prophet.net/analyze/javacharts.jsp
Scroll down to the chart and click "TOOLS"
go to STUDIES, the click "APPLY STUDIES"
a window will open.
hit the ARROW DOWN on "SELECT STUDIES"
Select: MACD (HIST. + 2 LINES)
then for FAST PERIOD put "4"
SLOW PERIOD put "8"
Signal PERIOD put "4" -click ADD
open SELECT STUDIES window again and select:
STOCHASTIC, SLOW -click ADD
open SELECT STUDIES window again and select:
MACD (HIST. + 2 LINES) -click ADD
[this MACD leave at the default settings of 12/26/9]
Now click "DETACH"
Double click the blue header bar accross the very top of the chart and it becomes Full Screen. To undo just double click again... *note you can also drag in/out the sides and/or top/bottom of the chart page now.
*note, by pushing CLONE you will get multiple charts. Don't do it now. Great intraday watching multiple charts at once!
The stock NTC should be loaded.
Now for a quick lesson on how to read what you just programmed...
Move your mouse over the chart and notice the red vertical line appear, put that line over OCT. and left click and hold and drag line to Feb. It will turn RED and then you'll ZOOM IN. *note to double zoom in, just repeat.
*note: to ZOOM OUT double click the chart anywhere
How to look for BUYS
Now move mouse over the chart and put the RED vert line over NOV. Note that all indicators are POS and that STOCHASTIC is very low, Excellent buy set up! Notice price took off, -now when to exit the trade?
WHEN TO SELL
Notice just into DEC that STOCHASTIC drops down past upper red line in the indicator... SELL!
Notice too that in about the middle of January right before the huge GAP DOWN that Stochastic was telling you to BALE, saving you from losing your azz ~
Now penny stocks are much harder, try learning about indicators with a high volume stock like QQQQ. Then you'll see how indicators clearly work.
Even with this chart MACD's are hard to see. Try looking at QQQQ!!!
Exact buys and sells, no guess work. You can do this same thing intraday, minute by minute, flip by flip... -Any lights coming on yet?!!! lol ~
Welcome to the world of charting where you'll NEVER stop learning...
GLTA!
quote:I agree with you glass, but my question is do these other stocks release news of the price reset before the halt or do they just do it and re-open?
Originally posted by glassman:
i found it odd that so many "seasoned traders" have such a hard time accepting a trading halt and price reset.
we see it all the time on NEWS, even without a reverse merger... stocks are halted temporarily then start trading again at a different price...
the problem Rufufufufus has right now is he needs to get a filing done...
quote:ChartWalker: I see where it says I have a PM, but nothing is there when I click on it. I gotta get back to work. GLTA
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
found it St.M
Check PM
quote:Yeh serfdumb doesnt like it a bit when he's outed for lying. He does it with nearly every post now too. He like watching a 9 year old trying to get even with people.
Originally posted by glassman:
hehe sceptor. serfie showed up way late and started acting like he had the whole thing figured out...
i like the part where he doesn't even know the SEC rulebook... form 4s are required to be filed very quickly now.. people who file them late are violating the rules...
his claims about all those insider sales being scammers should land him in court too.. that showed very poor judgement IMO
there has been way too much of that kinda stuff on htis stock...
i found it odd that so many "seasoned traders" have such a hard time accepting a trading halt and price reset. all it takes is an MM and some traders that are willing to trade it there..
these guys have been acting like its some sort of criminal act...
we see it all the time on NEWS, even without a reverse merger... stocks are halted temporarily then start trading again at a different price...
the problem Rufufufufus has right now is he needs to get a filing done...
quote:No chit. (highly intellectual comment)
Originally posted by glassman:
IF Rufus is in direct contact with the SEC to get this done correctly?
that's the best news i've heard since this deal came to light...
quote:Been in and out...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
hey 10!
Where ya been?...
quote:dog...after the 10K is filed...showing that FHAL was bankrupt...then the s4 can be filed and the merger is complete...the halt can then be done and price reset...I am not aware of any time frame...they could all be done at the same time...not sure..The way that i understand it....
Originally posted by dog:
Am I correct in assuming that if a 10k is filed, then released to the public, that the merger is DONE?
quote:where did I see it? He said it on paltalk the last time he was on. The "I take that as meaning..." is from talking to some people that have been thru reverse mergers already.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Sceptor? Where did you see this?
Rufus stated on paltalk that he was waiting on reports from the sec. I take that as he is waiting on feedback from filing the merger filings. They will respond with requests for clarification and then cshd will answer them and refile if necessary with the updated info. Hopefully they filed their papers complete enough so the sec doesnt comeback with a brazillion questions.
quote:the s-4 has nothing to do with completing the merger other than registering the original cvsu shares. That needs to be done simply to give them a monetary value so they can be traded for cshd shares. It's a technicality with no due date on it.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:dog...after the 10K is filed...showing that FHAL was bankrupt...then the s4 can be filed and the merger is complete...the halt can then be done and price reset...I am not aware of any time frame...they could all be done at the same time...not sure..The way that i understand it....
Originally posted by dog:
Am I correct in assuming that if a 10k is filed, then released to the public, that the merger is DONE?
quote:That is one of the things that confuses me...Why is the TA reporting that some of the CVSU shares have been "converted" accounted for...when the S4 was not completed? Or is the S4 completed AFTER all things are converted?
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:the s-4 has nothing to do with completing the merger other than registering the original cvsu shares. That needs to be done simply to give them a monetary value so they can be traded for cshd shares. It's a technicality with no due date on it.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:dog...after the 10K is filed...showing that FHAL was bankrupt...then the s4 can be filed and the merger is complete...the halt can then be done and price reset...I am not aware of any time frame...they could all be done at the same time...not sure..The way that i understand it....
Originally posted by dog:
Am I correct in assuming that if a 10k is filed, then released to the public, that the merger is DONE?
The merger was actually complete as of the 8-k filing. Had there not been a restructuring involved with a re-evaluation of the share price the 10-k would have been out already IMO.
quote:ChartWalker: Got it...thanks! Did you mean INTC instead of NTC though? I am pretty good at charts, but never placed that much relevence on Slow Stochastics. Is it really the best indicator to use when looking to bail out of a stock? Boy...I could have used that back in May with my oil and gas stocks.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
matt.
It's posted on the board here too ~ -above.
quote:ChartWalker: Got it...thanks! Did you mean INTC instead of NTC though? I am pretty good at charts, but never placed that much relevence on Slow Stochastics. Is it really the best indicator to use when looking to bail out of a stock? Boy...I could have used that back in May with my oil and gas stocks.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
matt.
It's posted on the board here too ~ -above.
quote:The t/a is receiving the certs for the cvsu shares. I dont believe any cshd shares have been issued yet to replace them. I would call the T/A and ask them that specifically. "Can they issue cshd shares to cvsu shareholder without the s-4 being filed". It could be they can and just have to file the s-4 at the completion.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:That is one of the things that confuses me...Why is the TA reporting that some of the CVSU shares have been "converted" accounted for...when the S4 was not completed? Or is the S4 completed AFTER all things are converted?
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:the s-4 has nothing to do with completing the merger other than registering the original cvsu shares. That needs to be done simply to give them a monetary value so they can be traded for cshd shares. It's a technicality with no due date on it.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:dog...after the 10K is filed...showing that FHAL was bankrupt...then the s4 can be filed and the merger is complete...the halt can then be done and price reset...I am not aware of any time frame...they could all be done at the same time...not sure..The way that i understand it....
Originally posted by dog:
Am I correct in assuming that if a 10k is filed, then released to the public, that the merger is DONE?
The merger was actually complete as of the 8-k filing. Had there not been a restructuring involved with a re-evaluation of the share price the 10-k would have been out already IMO.
Also...I doubt the reset would come before all this is finished because of all the CVSU share holders and their chance at "being in" on the reset...
quote:You're hooked aren't you! ha ~
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Looks like we might close on a bullih dragonfly doji! Not a bad mark after a bullish candlestick the day before! Whaddaya think Chart?
Sellers can't keep a good stock down!
quote:Chartman: I have found that if you buy when the ADX crosses above 20, you are in a trend that will likely continue for at least a couple of days. Sell (of course) when the geen line crosses under the red line. I like StochRSI and CCI for overbought and oversold signals. Would you concur?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ha ha ~
well therer ya go, you're one of us.... -not sure if that's a good thing! LOL ~
yeah it may have been INTC.. It was there that day. Might be a different chart now on there.
Stochastic is beautiful, buy when it's on it's belly and you almost can't go wrong ~
Always confirm with other indicators, and always BACKTEST to see how the indicators you have picked are "reading" your stock.
Bla - bla.. I could rattle on all day... ha ~
Any Questions just PM me!
quote:
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
yeah that was me...lol...
i read stuff over there and throw a post in every now and again...mostly to see if anyone will have a valid response...
they don't...it's retarded...i don't know why i do it...
quote:It's the MM's game, and their rules. But it does show they have substantially stepped up their covering the past two days now.
Originally posted by dog:
It's amazing how that kind of volume on buys doesn't drive it up....
... and the start tab may not even show up on the screen... quote:that was a sell 40,000 shares at 0.85
Originally posted by bigstocks:
That 40k buy was impressive.
quote:that was a sell 40,000 shares at 0.85
Originally posted by dollar13:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigstocks:
[qb] That 40k buy was impressive.
quote:Seems it was a buy because the bid and ask were at .83 and .84 or .845...can't remember...but I am pretty sure that the trade was above the ask at the time...
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Looked like a buy on my L2. Sorry
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
3:59:58 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:59:28 PM Trade 0.84 1685
3:59:20 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:59:20 PM Trade 0.84 10000
3:59:18 PM Trade 0.84 355
3:59:10 PM Trade 0.84 1000
3:58:56 PM Ask 0.84 2500
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.845 2800
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.84 5600
3:58:12 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:56:56 PM Trade 0.84 1800
3:56:52 PM Trade 0.845 1950
3:56:48 PM Trade 0.84 200
3:56:24 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:56:22 PM Trade 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Bid 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Trade 0.85 40000
quote:my broker told me that was a sell .
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yep dollar...looks like it was a buy!
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
3:59:58 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:59:28 PM Trade 0.84 1685
3:59:20 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:59:20 PM Trade 0.84 10000
3:59:18 PM Trade 0.84 355
3:59:10 PM Trade 0.84 1000
3:58:56 PM Ask 0.84 2500
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.845 2800
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.84 5600
3:58:12 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:56:56 PM Trade 0.84 1800
3:56:52 PM Trade 0.845 1950
3:56:48 PM Trade 0.84 200
3:56:24 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:56:22 PM Trade 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Bid 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Trade 0.85 40000
quote:i am not in it , just want to verifier what BIGSTOCK post that is all//
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dollar? Do you call your broker on all trades? That's interesting...
Are you in this? Seems a while back you decided to sell...if you're in...what changed your mind? If you'd care to share?
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i am not in it , just want to verifier what BIGSTOCK post that is all//
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dollar? Do you call your broker on all trades? That's interesting...
Are you in this? Seems a while back you decided to sell...if you're in...what changed your mind? If you'd care to share?
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Oh...??
quote:GLASS that is what my broker said for real
Originally posted by glassman:
gee dollar...
always causing trouble...
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
trying to improve my writing
quote:When trading is moving quickly, as it was at the time of this trade...your L2's don't always flash colors as quickly as the trades go
Originally posted by dollar13:
here this is what he told me :
whenever you see RED trades in your time and sale those are sales
whenever you see GREEN trades in your time and sale those are buys
so that 40k trade was red
quote:i born here but my parents are latins or hispanish and i was a bad kid in the school..
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
trying to improve my writing
Is English not your first language?
Sorry Dollar...not wishing to be rude...it is just very hard to "follow" you...must be me...
quote:i didnt know that thanks for your info 10
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:When trading is moving quickly, as it was at the time of this trade...your L2's don't always flash colors as quickly as the trades go
Originally posted by dollar13:
here this is what he told me :
whenever you see RED trades in your time and sale those are sales
whenever you see GREEN trades in your time and sale those are buys
so that 40k trade was red
quote:that is why i said before maybe my broker was wrong but if that is the way it is in penny's... FROM NOW ON I WONT EVEN LOOK AT IT(TIME AND SALES)
Originally posted by GreenDay:
On my eTrade Pro - green are every trade that is a downtick (a trade lower than the previous) and greens are trades on an uptick (higher than the previous). A phone boy tried to once tell me that green was buy and red was sell. I knew he was wrong so I asked for a big boss man to speak with who confirmed the uptick downtick stuff for me. This is eTrade l2's. I can't get details on buy vs. sell on penny's... so I'm told.
quote:Buy or sell... somebody wanted it and paid for it.
Originally posted by dollar13:
here this is what he told me :
whenever you see RED trades in your time and sale those are sales
whenever you see GREEN trades in your time and sale those are buys
so that 40k trade was red
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
3:59:58 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:59:28 PM Trade 0.84 1685
3:59:20 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:59:20 PM Trade 0.84 10000
3:59:18 PM Trade 0.84 355
3:59:10 PM Trade 0.84 1000
3:58:56 PM Ask 0.84 2500
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.845 2800
3:58:46 PM Trade 0.84 5600
3:58:12 PM Trade 0.84 5000
3:56:56 PM Trade 0.84 1800
3:56:52 PM Trade 0.845 1950
3:56:48 PM Trade 0.84 200
3:56:24 PM Ask 0.845 2500
3:56:22 PM Trade 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Bid 0.84 2500
3:56:14 PM Trade 0.85 40000
quote:"Cough"..ummm you know you're in it buddy you never did sell your shares.:)I really want you to buy more tomorrow on the dip it's good to get in now.I.."We" want you to buy the crap out of it if you still have funds in your account.
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i am not in it , just want to verifier what BIGSTOCK post that is all//
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dollar? Do you call your broker on all trades? That's interesting...
Are you in this? Seems a while back you decided to sell...if you're in...what changed your mind? If you'd care to share?
quote:if the price is above bid? i ALWAYS ASSUME the MM's sold it to somebody..
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS i know you are straight ..
that was a buy or sell?
quote:why you keep follow me DAMN .
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:"Cough"..ummm you know you're in it buddy you never did sell your shares.:)I really want you to buy more tomorrow on the dip it's good to get in now.I.."We" want you to buy the crap out of it if you still have funds in your account.
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i am not in it , just want to verifier what BIGSTOCK post that is all//
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dollar? Do you call your broker on all trades? That's interesting...
Are you in this? Seems a while back you decided to sell...if you're in...what changed your mind? If you'd care to share?
quote:GOT IT
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:if the price is above bid? i ALWAYS ASSUME the MM's sold it to somebody..
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS i know you are straight ..
that was a buy or sell?
i ALWAYS ASSUME the MM's pay the lowest possible price when they buy stock from us...
that is the best answer i can give you...
the MM's always win just like the House does at the casino
quote:you EXPERIENCE count
Originally posted by glassman:
OK... good......
now? i'll tell you that sometimes i put a sell order in on a stock above the ask and the MM will come UP above the ask and buy it from me...
BUT?
that has ALWAYS been right before or during a run....
it doesn't really matter if it was a buy or a sell as much as it matters if the price is going up or down....
the MM's are trading to make money tooooo....
quote:you need to get a new broker.
Originally posted by dollar13:
here this is what he told me :
whenever you see RED trades in your time and sale those are sales
whenever you see GREEN trades in your time and sale those are buys
so that 40k trade was red
rs.. I hope!
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Here's one for ya....
off topic but I think you're gonna like this one...
A renter called me and just told me that their pet tarantella got out and they can't find it!!!
Now wth am I supposed to do with that info?!!
lol ~
Idea's board? ha ha ~
Work boots, Raid, and a long stick should do just fine.
-so I might not be around much...
And if I never sign on again..... -gulp
The spider won!
(-thought you had problems?!) lol ~
quote:I can't see the PPS going down today as nobody will want to be out during the weekend just in case.
Originally posted by RichBy26:
morning gang, hope we close this week on a good note!!
quote:Don't forget the hard hat and poncho just in case it tries to drop on top of you from the ceiling...
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Here's one for ya....
off topic but I think you're gonna like this one...
A renter called me and just told me that their pet tarantella got out and they can't find it!!!
Now wth am I supposed to do with that info?!!
lol ~
Idea's board? ha ha ~
Work boots, Raid, and a long stick should do just fine.
-so I might not be around much...
And if I never sign on again..... -gulp
The spider won!
(-thought you had problems?!) lol ~
quote:Can't believe it.
Originally posted by RichBy26:
gapping up for once!!
quote:Well, you could look on the bright side ya know. Any other potential insect problem you may have there could be eradicated now. Of course that would mean a well fed Tarantula and well fed spiders tend to grow. Depending on the species he wont be at all hard to find, just look for a large hairy thing about the size of your hand. Geez, whats the problem?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Here's one for ya....
off topic but I think you're gonna like this one...
A renter called me and just told me that their pet tarantella got out and they can't find it!!!
Now wth am I supposed to do with that info?!!
lol ~
Idea's board? ha ha ~
-so I might not be around much...
And if I never sign on again..... -gulp
The spider won!
(-thought you had problems?!) lol ~
quote:Maybe a little squeeze action post reset?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ha ha ~
http:// stock charts . com/gallery/?ckxe
here's the price reset chart talked about above... fyi
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quote:looked that way didn't it!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:Maybe a little squeeze action post reset?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ha ha ~
http:// stock charts . com/gallery/?ckxe
here's the price reset chart talked about above... fyi
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quote:Did it have a HAPPY ending? ha ~
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
wasn't this an episode of The Simpsons?
quote:Chart...Raid sells "whole house bomb" type things...go get a couple tell the people to leave for a couple of hours...and let the sucker off...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ha....
My day is going to SUCK no matter what this stock does today!! LOL ~~
quote:serfdom is manned by multiple people.
Originally posted by dog:
Wow... bashers work late over on iHub.
Serfdom must be smoking crack cuz he was at it from 8am til 3:12am, this morning.
Who stays on a board that long with no financial interest in a stock? Wierd.
quote:D*mn cat is the one who knocked it off the counter!!
Originally posted by dog:
Just get a cat...
quote:That should give you an idea of just how many naked shorts are out there!!
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
speaking of BS...a hole 66k traded so far...
how many did we have in the begining...something like 3mil in the first few minutes, lol...
quote:Yes, Steve Irwin did just die. I have been a major fan for some time and my brother, who passed away a year ago, spent HOURS on Animal Planet during his illness. It kinda hits home for me because it was my brother that got me hooked on the Croc hunter. Sorry, i dont mean to get all sentimental.....its just a very sad subject.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
LMAO but it's not funny! -does that make sense?! ha ~
Yeah 10, thought about fumigating... sigh ~
Suppose I'll play crock hunter.... wait. -gulp.
"Didn't he just DIE?!!!"
SUCKS to be me!!! ha ha ~~
quote:LMAO!!
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I guess I don't know how to post a picture....lol
quote:Support around .81
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
.85 res
nearest support is .75
quote:Keep it out of your shorts then...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
When this tarantula does feel threatened it will display its' red bristles and drop them from its' body. These small hairs can cause a painful rash and possible blindness if they come in contact with sensitive areas such as exposed skin, nasal passages, or eyes of another animal. When provoked the tarantula may also bite with its' two hollow fangs, injecting venom during the bite.
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Why don't YOU pick it up rat!
quote:LMAO Chart
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
"Perfect Gift" for that specail MM in your life?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
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Wow.. I'm bored... hope this works or I just wasted 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.
quote:what?....
Originally posted by portman:
I am on the phone with TDA...We are not allowed to buy more CSHD
quote:Has this ever been cleared up?
KENNESAW, Ga., Sep 05, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Our-street.com, a financial watchdog website has received, from a third party, a copy of a Cease and Desist Order dated August 31, 2006 by the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation toward Conversion Solutions Holdings (OTCBB CSHD). The Order terminates the previously announced deposit of two financial instruments totaling over $1.328 Billion into Conversion Solutions' account. In addition to claiming Conversion Solutions failed to provide agreed upon credit facilities, the order also accused Rufus Harris, Conversion's CEO, and the company of "a potential attempt to deceive our organization."
According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
The Cease and Desist order can be read at http://www.our-street.com/featured.htm Our-Street.com is an internet based public company watchdog that researches companies and publishes reports and files complaints with various regulatory agencies. Our-Street.com has reported on 22 companies and, of these, to date, it has been subsequently revealed by at least 12 of these companies or other sources that the company or people named in the Our-Street.com complaints were the subject of an SEC investigation or inquiry.
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quote:I don't think the BLUE SHAMPOO will help with that one...
Originally posted by dog:
Nothing like the magic crotch spider to get you out of bed in the morning.
quote:I'm done with these prick's...
Originally posted by portman:
TDA Reorganizations has no additional information.
TDA says they have determined that it is in the best interest of their clients that we not be allowed to purchase more.
quote:Ok, ill buy that. Thanks.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
wow, if that's true about them putting the clamp on buys then we ARE close and this MUST be going through!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are doing this so they don't have to cover at $54 a share!
So atht's why they are walking it down today!!!
"WHO'S" allowed to buy, or is doing the buying??? THE MM's!!
-and they aren't about to run it up!!
chit I think this is GREAT news!!
quote:10 I was told no buys either online or broker.
Originally posted by 10of13:
So we have TDA that said no buys only sells?
Scott and choice are letting you do both...anyone else?
quote:Not just TDA...but everyone hold...
Originally posted by wadeinni:
Everyone using TDA hold your shares. Frikkin Ameriturd at it again.
quote:Dog I think this is the point where the MMS might be saying every man for himself.
Originally posted by dog:
If the 10k pops... no one will sell til after the S-4. That would be amazingly stupid. But, how is the price suppose to up if investors aren't allowed to buy.
Unless... some MM's have a surplus and are looking to make some cash on their fellow MM's.
quote:Edgar would be one to start watching ya that's for sure!!! Good man!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
555 SEC filings and nothing of any interest... yet.
quote:Exactamundo.... we may have a front seat to the biggest game of "screw your neighbor" in the history of the stock market.
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:Dog I think this is the point where the MMS might be saying every man for himself.
Originally posted by dog:
If the 10k pops... no one will sell til after the S-4. That would be amazingly stupid. But, how is the price suppose to up if investors aren't allowed to buy.
Unless... some MM's have a surplus and are looking to make some cash on their fellow MM's.
quote:You are 100% correct IMO!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by cool AZ:
Just talked to Scottrade in Scottsdale ... they show CSHD as being available for purchase.
I asked under what circumstances brokerages restrict buying ... he said that sometimes the settlements are not done through the dtc and that such settlements can get expensive ... I'm assuming they mean settling between themselves which I think means ... buying available real shares to cover.
quote:lol. yeah I was thinking that.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Price does sem to be going up.. on this stock that no one can buy for their own good. LOL
quote:LOL..Arca is the one that Rufas used to "buy shares"....
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
haha...ARCA is on the ask at 55.00
this is so funny...
quote:Why do that Rufus?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
AMERITRADE claims that the restriction came from the COMPANY CSHD, not from them.
THIS IS FROM HSM NOT ME.... fyi
If this is true, then Rufus is helping us out by locking up shares!!!!
quote:Someone call the TA. Bet they don't answer.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
AMERITRADE claims that the restriction came from the COMPANY CSHD, not from them.
THIS IS FROM HSM NOT ME.... fyi
If this is true, then Rufus is helping us out by locking up shares!!!!
quote:But why only Ameriturd. A little weird or perhaps the other brokers will follow suit
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
AMERITRADE claims that the restriction came from the COMPANY CSHD, not from them.
THIS IS FROM HSM NOT ME.... fyi
If this is true, then Rufus is helping us out by locking up shares!!!!
quote:They Can't...
Originally posted by dog:
How can a company tell them not to allow buys of their stock?
quote:So they lie to pass the buck?
Originally posted by retiredat49:
quote:They Can't...
Originally posted by dog:
How can a company tell them not to allow buys of their stock?
quote:Aren't they always? PAIV, PAIM, CSHD, so many others
Originally posted by portman:
Bets on TDA being really short?
quote:it's as if ARCA is run by a bunch of college kids...saying to each other(as they crack open another budlight)"hey guys watch this"...
Originally posted by dog:
Is ARCA teasing them again?
quote:That was just wrong on so many levels!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:A bunch of us heard the guy from ameritrade say it was done by ameritrade. not CSHD
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
AMERITRADE claims that the restriction came from the COMPANY CSHD, not from them.
THIS IS FROM HSM NOT ME.... fyi
If this is true, then Rufus is helping us out by locking up shares!!!!
quote:LMFAO
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:So this is probably all a bunch of demand created by a Tut sighting, and Ameriturd blocking buys... Oh well it was exciting none the less, and I will say the real thing is gonna be very cool.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
10 of 13, I just called the TA...
He said his info is probably a couple days behind but he said the float is around 29 1/2 mil. and the outstanding shares are 97.2 mill but they are still waiting on certifications or certificats?? from old CVSU shareholders, all fronthaul group/ furia shares are in.
If you wan tthe number yet I'll get it for you
Iasked and he said he has nothing to do with form 144's
Let go Rufi!
My girlish figure is attached to my wife.
quote:danger will robinson! LOL...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Just called TDAmeritrade, they mentioned that they usually disallow trading in stocks that there may be possible FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY in.
Here is the number for Ameritrade, call for yourself:
888-871-9007
or 402-970-5805
or 800-669-3900
quote:think about it?
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Just called TDAmeritrade, they mentioned that they usually disallow trading in stocks that there may be possible FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY in.
I asked specifically about CSHD.
Here is the number for Ameritrade, call for yourself:
888-871-9007
or 402-970-5805
or 800-669-3900
quote:This and then aslo with the "letter" from schwab...gotta wonder...
Originally posted by glassman:
the NS problem has to be fixed one way or another...
this is one way...
IF? and do mean IF!! this fixes the NS situation? then people need to consider who is really short...
i have been trying sort this out for awhile...
IF! the MM's aren't the ones that shorted?
did the brokers do it?...
i have been suspecting this for awhile now, but i can't prove it...
quote:I'm sure buys will be allowed later.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
well it does prove one thing...
If you are with TDA you don't have a short position now. I say this because if you did...you certainly can't cover it now thereby making your position void.
quote:good for you peaser...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
I am for honest discussions about stocks.
Factual, honest statements from the horses mouth is what I am all about. I posted the phone numbers above for anyone else to call and see what the horse has to say as well.
I called to find out what is going on here. I do not own this and will not buy it.
quote:Seems every call that is made is getting a different answer...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Ask them what is the reasoning for folks not being allowed to buy certain stocks, in particular CSHD.
quote:nope, i didn't say you needed to prove it, just that there is no uniform answer coming from them...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Easy glassman, Would you like the time of my call, and agents name I spoke with?
It's pretty easy to call back since my phone conversation is on tape with them.
quote:LOL...
Originally posted by dog:
I think I know what's happening....
http://www.star1025.com/gallery/wwkdw_092105/wwkdw_092105_04
quote:Hah! I just got back from there. BB dont read any further..........
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Oh damit... Red Robin just put out a Form 4 on the SEC filings list! Now I am hungry.
quote:No accusations being thrown out from my direction.
Originally posted by glassman:
there you go accusing me of doing something illegal or unethical again
..
it never happened..
it is sad that you are wasting the time of an enforcement agency on this with your delusions...
quote:Sorry...I just find them...well, average. Sorry man
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Hah! I just got back from there. BB dont read any further..........
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Oh damit... Red Robin just put out a Form 4 on the SEC filings list! Now I am hungry.
Awesome burgers!!!
quote:Try the A1 peppercorn burger. I agree most of them are very average. I rarely make a big deal out of burgers but this one was very tasty.
Originally posted by portman:
quote:Sorry...I just find them...well, average. Sorry man
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Hah! I just got back from there. BB dont read any further..........
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Oh damit... Red Robin just put out a Form 4 on the SEC filings list! Now I am hungry.
Awesome burgers!!!
quote:Not charge to sell? LOL...why don't they just admit that they are screwed?
Originally posted by portman:
From HSM:
Posted by: bohogirl
In reply to: bobm2626 who wrote msg# 69520 Date:9/8/2006 1:59:58 PM
Post #of 69525
Still calling your bluff.
You can call me any name you want, it doesn't change the truth.
Thousands of people cannot buy, and you can.
PS: manager at TD on the phone live, cannot help us with buying but offered to waive commission if we wanted to sell. Interesting, eh?
__________________
quote:C'mon 10. No need to read into it. They are just trying to be accommodating due to the inconvenience of not letting traders buy. It's just courteous and good business. They lose a $9 commission and get a couple thousand shares, saving themselves $100k.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Not charge to sell? LOL...why don't they just admit that they are screwed?
Originally posted by portman:
From HSM:
Posted by: bohogirl
In reply to: bobm2626 who wrote msg# 69520 Date:9/8/2006 1:59:58 PM
Post #of 69525
Still calling your bluff.
You can call me any name you want, it doesn't change the truth.
Thousands of people cannot buy, and you can.
PS: manager at TD on the phone live, cannot help us with buying but offered to waive commission if we wanted to sell. Interesting, eh?
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quote:Kinda like the champange corks we'll be poping after this!!!
Originally posted by cool AZ:
This last phase with the mm's trying there best to keep the pps down, reminds me of trying to hold the top on a pressure cooker by hand ... there will come a point where it just blows!
What that physics law ... "for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction" ... I can only imagine, for now, how all this monkeying around by the mm's may yet lead to our greater benefit when this becomes uncontrollable on their part!
quote:It's just good business eh, Glass?
Originally posted by glassman:
they lose a $9 commission and get a couple thousand shares, saving themselves $100k.
that would be one logical deduction....
quote:YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Official merger date is Sept 13th...Whooo HOOOOOO!
quote:Chartman: what was this quote from? was it recent?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
CSHD " You Sir will remember my name for the rest of your life, this I can assure you."... Rufus Paul Harris
quote:I don't know! Anyone?
Originally posted by Honesty101:
"The Official Merger date has been set for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 atthe close of the trading day. At that time the corporation will receive theNon-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO) from ADP Automatic Data Processing Inc.located at 51 Mercedes Way Edgewood, NY 11717 allowing the conclusion of theFHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K."
So what does "Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners" mean??
quote:it's the entire street name population...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
"The Official Merger date has been set for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 atthe close of the trading day. At that time the corporation will receive theNon-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO) from ADP Automatic Data Processing Inc.located at 51 Mercedes Way Edgewood, NY 11717 allowing the conclusion of theFHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K."
So what does "Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners" mean??
quote:It's one of Rufus' saying from message boards ~
Originally posted by StMatthew:
quote:Chartman: what was this quote from? was it recent?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
CSHD " You Sir will remember my name for the rest of your life, this I can assure you."... Rufus Paul Harris
quote:They're saying Daddy's getting some tonight!!! LOL ~
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
so...what are the charts saying, LMAO...
quote:Hmmm, lets hope they don't do any major damages between today and Closing bell on Wednesday
Originally posted by SherriT:
I would think based on the fact they have announced a merger completion date, it is pretty much telling the shorts they have three days left. Even if the 10K doesn't come out that afternoon, the NOBO list will be generated - am I right?
quote:My point exactly dog. Im trying to read between the lines here and be confident that it means just what it says. Im still a little nervous
Originally posted by dog:
But is it binding? Basically only says we are ready for Wednesday. A 10K has not been filed.
It is good news, I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade.
Please enlighten me... it's not over is it?
quote:
KENNESAW, Ga., Sep 05, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Our-street.com, a financial watchdog website has received, from a third party, a copy of a Cease and Desist Order dated August 31, 2006 by the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation toward Conversion Solutions Holdings (OTCBB CSHD). The Order terminates the previously announced deposit of two financial instruments totaling over $1.328 Billion into Conversion Solutions' account. In addition to claiming Conversion Solutions failed to provide agreed upon credit facilities, the order also accused Rufus Harris, Conversion's CEO, and the company of "a potential attempt to deceive our organization."
According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
quote:you and everyone else knows it was a fraudulent release...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
What happened with this, if the bonds have been withdrawn how does it go to 54$.
quote:I really think it is flippers or people who started doubting and just wanted out....or who didn't think news would be out that time of the day and put in GTCs....totally a guess though
Originally posted by 10of13:
What I would like to know? who the hell is selling?
quote:Most likely the upper brass at TDA paid for that bash!! ha!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Johnny...
It was a scam on ourstreets part to drop the PPS...
quote:This board DD's the hell out of anything released, so if you go back in this thread about 10-15 pages or so, you will find everything you need....and then you can confirm the findings for yourself.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Give me a link stating it was fraudulant, my wife gave me the press release over the phone so I told her to sell.
I haven't had the opportunity to verify anything.
quote:Simple, look at the PPS!
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Give me a link stating it was fraudulant, my wife gave me the press release over the phone so I told her to sell.
I haven't had the opportunity to verify anything.
quote:I would think OurStreet will just quietly duck out of there for a few days until he can devise a new strategy to bash this PR.
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
I - Hub is going to be quite entertaining.
quote:You sold cause Our Street put out "news"?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Give me a link stating it was fraudulant, my wife gave me the press release over the phone so I told her to sell.
I haven't had the opportunity to verify anything.
quote:I did use the quotes... hehe (implied sarcasm)
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dog..you need to change the statement
"You sold cause Our Street put out "news"?
To:
"... paid to put out news..."
quote:sweet
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1.13
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:I don't believe it...I just tried and TDAmeritrade still refuses to allow buys
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:I just tried to buy again. no dice..
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:I see you're just catching up Tax nice little surprise huh??
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
13th!!!! 10K!
quote:new name again buckkiller?
Originally posted by retiredat49:
quote:I don't believe it...I just tried and TDAmeritrade still refuses to allow buys
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:"...possible to prevent the organizes market operations from maneuvering your shares out of your possession..."
quote:anyone else know exactly what was meant by this statement?
quote:My co-worker has the TD-Waterhouse side of TDA. It could be that the Ameritrade side is not allowing buys. They are still on separate systems.
Originally posted by retiredat49:
quote:I don't believe it...I just tried and TDAmeritrade still refuses to allow buys
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:That makes a lot off sense. Everything points to this going up atlest for the next little bit here.
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:I really think it is flippers or people who started doubting and just wanted out....or who didn't think news would be out that time of the day and put in GTCs....totally a guess though
Originally posted by 10of13:
What I would like to know? who the hell is selling?
quote:You need to change your handle to...
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:That makes a lot off sense. Everything points to this going up atlest for the next little bit here.
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:I really think it is flippers or people who started doubting and just wanted out....or who didn't think news would be out that time of the day and put in GTCs....totally a guess though
Originally posted by 10of13:
What I would like to know? who the hell is selling?
I bett we see GTC orderresistance all the way up from people who want to cover their investments or were just scared out by our street.
quote:Yea Glass...new name...new lifestyle...I just retired from GM after 30 years...life is good... come on Rufus...give me a nice retirement gift!!!
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:new name again buckkiller?
Originally posted by retiredat49:
quote:I don't believe it...I just tried and TDAmeritrade still refuses to allow buys
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
quote:A co-worker of mine just bought 1500 shares through TDA and they went through immediately.
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
I'd be real curious to know if TDA is still not allowing buys
quote:I take it to mean no 30 to 90 day cert exchange restrictions following the trade halt.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:"...possible to prevent the organizes market operations from maneuvering your shares out of your possession..."
quote:anyone else know exactly what was meant by this statement?
quote:The new one may be a bit more experienced with public companies, or they may just want to change. The previous auditor usually has to post a letter agreeing to the lack of dispute which will also have to be filed in an 8K.
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Why would they change auditors?
quote:Thanks Glass....
Originally posted by glassman:
congrats retired....
quote:thats not real...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Why would the agent for humanitarian world whatever foundation resign in august?
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/imaging/13318130.pdf
quote:That's making alot of sense with this crap
Originally posted by cool AZ:
I'm not so sure it is profit taking ... I'm thinking some mm trading back and forth to bring down and contain the price .... or at least dampen the momentum. Just my thoughts.
quote:Yeah right, LMAO
Originally posted by Sandusky:
"Rufus" on crap-hub again...
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Gotta link?!!!!
quote:Crab...i don't think so...
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:thats not real...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Why would the agent for humanitarian world whatever foundation resign in august?
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/imaging/13318130.pdf
zoom in on the date stamp at the top...you can clearly see it was manipulated...
quote:They used a guy Darryl Horton knows IMO...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:The new one may be a bit more experienced with public companies, or they may just want to change. The previous auditor usually has to post a letter agreeing to the lack of dispute which will also have to be filed in an 8K.
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Why would they change auditors?
quote:I'm confused it's not an 8K is it?
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4646222&Ty pe=HTML
8K
quote:I got it off the Georgia site
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Why would the agent for humanitarian world whatever foundation resign in august?
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/imaging/13318130.pdf
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thats not real...
zoom in on the date stamp at the top...you can clearly see it was manipulated
quote:oh...i'm sorry about that...i didn't see it in my etrade news and just assumed...i apologize...lol...i guess thats what happens...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
HELLO!!! Craby... just look.
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4646222&Ty pe=HTML
quote:Well he invited ppl to his BBQ and someone showed up. I think it would be a strange coincidence if it happened without it really being him.
Originally posted by wadeinni:
quote:Yeah right, LMAO
Originally posted by Sandusky:
"Rufus" on crap-hub again...
I wonder who that guy really is who claim to be Rufus???
quote:Honesty????
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Stock lemon report:
http://www.stock lemon.com/08_09_06.html
As far as I know, they have never been successfully prosecuted in a civil or criminal case. So, I tend to take what they say as good until they are proven wrong. Any thoughts?
quote:this is nothing new...IMO...The PPS had a month to drop after that "crap was posted"...it hasn't...no more has been said or done from them or about them...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Stock lemon report:
http://www.stock lemon.com/08_09_06.html
As far as I know, they have never been successfully prosecuted in a civil or criminal case. So, I tend to take what they say as good until they are proven wrong. Any thoughts?
quote:What you are posting is factual BS.
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Just stating facts. Nothing more. Seeking the truth to this company is all new2stocks.
quote:I'll bring the beer! LOL
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Hey New2.... wanna go Spider hunting tonight?..
quote:i apologize for that as well...i had my BS meter on super overdrive and i just felt like finding something...
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Crab...i don't think so...
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
what difference would it make? Sounds like he is not with them...so?
quote:Thanks!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Have fun Stockter....
quote:Have you ever quit a job?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
So why would the agent resign for the Humanitarian World Foundation?
When I post from an official site and someone calls it doctored I tend to realize they are protecting their position with deceit. I just want a straight answer.
quote:This is a professional businessman ?
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Rufus is back on Ihub. I knew this was going to be entertaining today!
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 69778 Date:9/8/2006 3:36:53 PM
Post #of 69860
I am going to make another public announcement; Our-Street you are an idiot, spinster, and fraud.
Hope to see you soon!
GODSPEED shareholders
Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
770-420-8270
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
So why would the agent resign for the Humanitarian World Foundation?
When I post from an official site and someone calls it doctored I tend to realize they are protecting their position with deceit. I just want a straight answer.
quote:you beat me on that one this time Tax!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I caught it with 40 seconds of posting... I ROCK!
quote:My BS meeter was going off and had to check it out.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
..... slacking new2! lol!
quote:Yea, they left the August 18 date at the top but this is obviously new. I caught wind of it through Etrade and thought it was an error, which i posted earlier. I like that the exact wording about the merger completion date of Sept 13 is in the 8K and not just on the PR. However, as we know, these things can get extensions and such. For now im going to believe that at 4pm next wednesday we are all going to be very happy. I'll drink to that!
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
8_K on the SEC website...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000061/0001297077-06-0 00061-index.htm
Cover page has date of August 18, 2006, yet text says September 8, 2006... Would expect some type of correction....someone must be in a hurry to not have caught such a descrepancy........for the moment, today's news is good and I'll still waiting to see the 10-K.........GLTA
quote:Yea, i thought that too. I really wish he would post just ONCE over here so he could feel like he could "speak" on a higher level. I emailed him once and clued him into our group here but either it didnt work or he is just trolling. But, then again, i go back to my original thought that maybe he should just let things be. I think his heart is in the right place but i dont know if there is any value added.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:This is a professional businessman ?
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Rufus is back on Ihub. I knew this was going to be entertaining today!
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 69778 Date:9/8/2006 3:36:53 PM
Post #of 69860
I am going to make another public announcement; Our-Street you are an idiot, spinster, and fraud.
Hope to see you soon!
GODSPEED shareholders
Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
770-420-8270
quote:No offense... but we have covered this ad nauseum. Could you please go thru the previous postings. Your first assumption has no weight. That was completely non-verifiable, scientifically refuted, meta-tag analyzed, garbage. Please read the thread. We are a bit tired.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Thanks 10 of 13,
I am not sure its a big deal, I am just trying to figure out what is real and what isn't.
1. We have a press release from a company that says the bonds were removed saying the company was trying to resolve the situation.
2. This seems to be acknowledged as true but the company was working to resolve the situation.
Why not file a press release saying it is resolved or was never true?
CSHD could do this.
.
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Thanks 10 of 13,
I am not sure its a big deal, I am just trying to figure out what is real and what isn't.
1. We have a press release from a company that says the bonds were removed saying the company was trying to resolve the situation.
2. This seems to be acknowledged as true but the company was working to resolve the situation.
Why not file a press release saying it is resolved or was never true?
CSHD could do this.
.
quote:Sorry Johnny...If you had paid any attention to your investment and done any DD prior you would not have gotten worked up on yet another Our-Street lie.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Give me a link stating it was fraudulant, my wife gave me the press release over the phone so I told her to sell.
I haven't had the opportunity to verify anything.
quote:I remember it and I have the interview on MP3 I will have to listen again now to see if he gives a name. (I think he did.)
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Bah, now O ur Stre et is complaining about CSHDs auditor "quitting"...maybe someone already mentioned this? Anyway, Rufus said in an interview LONG ago that his new CPA was to be a guy up in Michigan. I cant remember which interview but since i live in Michigan i definately remember it. Anyone else remember that? It appears maybe Miles is trying to imply the auditor quit over the bond fiasco? Im not sure
quote:It would have to be addressed in a new 8k if the bond was not in play as it is previously accounted for in a previous 8k bound with an "irrevocable trust". That is stronger to me than a doctored pdf seen in Photoshop, and a $400 paid for PR that basically says "I got this from a third party, this is what it said, I have not revealed the source or verified its validity, and I cannot be held accountable for disseminating this info."
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Dog,
Can you provide a link from the company or official source saying it has been resolved or was never true?
I looked through several pages and haven't found anything official, I have found some unofficial explanations but nothing official.
quote:I was there for that interview and I wrote the change in my notes (just checked) but I did not copy the name but I do remember whoever it was was discuss here on allstocks and DD'ed in thread #2 I think.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:I remember it and I have the interview on MP3 I will have to listen again now to see if he gives a name. (I think he did.)
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Bah, now O ur Stre et is complaining about CSHDs auditor "quitting"...maybe someone already mentioned this? Anyway, Rufus said in an interview LONG ago that his new CPA was to be a guy up in Michigan. I cant remember which interview but since i live in Michigan i definately remember it. Anyone else remember that? It appears maybe Miles is trying to imply the auditor quit over the bond fiasco? Im not sure
quote:Good post - I'll pay half if you like.
Originally posted by dog:
quote:It would have to be addressed in a new 8k if the bond was not in play as it is previously accounted for in a previous 8k bound with an "irrevocable trust". That is stronger to me than a doctored pdf seen in Photoshop, and a $400 paid for PR that basically says "I got this from a third party, this is what it said, I have not revealed the source or verified its validity, and I cannot be held accountable for disseminating this info."
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Dog,
Can you provide a link from the company or official source saying it has been resolved or was never true?
I looked through several pages and haven't found anything official, I have found some unofficial explanations but nothing official.
For $400 dollars I could put out a PR(with taht particular service) that says I played cards with a Yeti on a camping trip to Yellowstone. Almost tempted to try it.
quote:If you had pictures they would be priceless!!!!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:It would have to be addressed in a new 8k if the bond was not in play as it is previously accounted for in a previous 8k bound with an "irrevocable trust". That is stronger to me than a doctored pdf seen in Photoshop, and a $400 paid for PR that basically says "I got this from a third party, this is what it said, I have not revealed the source or verified its validity, and I cannot be held accountable for disseminating this info."
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Dog,
Can you provide a link from the company or official source saying it has been resolved or was never true?
I looked through several pages and haven't found anything official, I have found some unofficial explanations but nothing official.
For $400 dollars I could put out a PR(with taht particular service) that says I played cards with a Yeti on a camping trip to Yellowstone. Almost tempted to try it.
quote:Not sure of "pumping it" as you claim. I'll have to go back and see what you are referring to. Can you direct me to the posts?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:any thoughts?
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Stock lemon report:
http://www.stock lemon.com/08_09_06.html
As far as I know, they have never been successfully prosecuted in a civil or criminal case. So, I tend to take what they say as good until they are proven wrong. Any thoughts?
yep....
you are here to cause trouble...
ACTC was naked shorted to he77 while you were pumping it LOL
quote:Actually, the French Quarter isn't bad.... ;-)
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I am loving it... the info flood gates are open and this is the French Quarter! Ok... really... really bad humor and taste... Appologies Rat and others in the flood affected areas. But we are learning alot today. Sympathies to all.
quote:i agree about Rufus posting on BB's anywhere...
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I'm really not a fan of his posting there or anywhere else. Very bad form, I don't care if he's "not your typical CEO".
quote:you are absolutely correct...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I was thinking over lunch that they really could be protecting customers buy oders if they believe there may be a reset. Imagine putting a GTC market order in thinking the price was a buck and it filled for $25 or $54 a piece.
Etrade will not let me market purchase pennies but I do not know about TDA.
I know people were having trouble with filling buy orders a GTC could potentially take a good deal of time.
Anyway not proof or reason... just a thought. Personally I do not see it as being a reason to totally halt buys.
quote:they don't let you short them...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
Same goes for TDA TaxBack. They just won't let anyone buy CSHD period, and they have also said that they do not short any penny stocks under $5.
quote:once again? they won't let YOU do it, that doesn't mean THEY aren't doing it...
Originally posted by Honesty101:
I stand corrected, there is no minimum price for them to short. The stock must be a marginable security which means:
Ameritrade said that they are unable to short any OTC's or OTCBB's.
quote:That's funny...I noticed the same thing towards the eod Glass...for some reason it stood out to me as "unusual"
Originally posted by glassman:
as far as the MM's go? can anybody else verify this?
i was unable to watch the late trades today..
Posted by: up-down
In reply to: None
Date:9/8/2006 4:10:40 PM
Post #of 70053
mm's BMIC and SBSH have been filling their pockets with investor cash. These guys remain on the inside offer as transaction after transaction are printed at the best ask. This NEVER happens at the bid with these mm's. As a matter a fact one mostly sees ETRD, NITE oe UBSS (us retailers) on the inside bid while transaction are printed at the bid.
If BMIC and SBSH were not hording all the buy volume the pps would have been mush higher. Isn't anyone upset or disturbed about this. I am!
SBSH, CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS INC. OPERATION NASDAQ/CQS, 212-723-7259. NASDAQ TRADING, 800-223-7743. DISTRESSED EQUITY, 212-723-7744
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quote:i posted the references a few pages back...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Can anyone explain this part of the pr?
Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO)
quote:it seems to be...
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Hi guys do we really believe this is Rufus???
quote:I just called as well but instead of only leaving my number (which i did as well) i also left a rather lengthy message nearly begging him to stop posting in IHUB. I explained that its his business to run and im not trying to tell him how to run the business but several shareholders were very uneasy about him allowing some posters over at IHUB to call him out like this. I also said that if it were up to me id rather not see any posts from him on a bulletin board but IF he feels the need to do so to stop by our small community here and post something that we wont bash to pieces. I hope that AT LEAST he listens to the message and reads through some of our posts here and realizes some of our concerns. I intend to now follow up my call with an email to make sure he knows where im coming from since there are various threads on this stock. I wouldnt want to make the guy read 400 posts to find us LOL.
Originally posted by luvforever:
Ok folks I just called Mr. Ruffas....LOL got some woman answering as conversion solutions LOL asked if i wanted to leave a voice mail said yes left my number lets see if he calls back.. LOL I'd be surprised but if he does I will let ya know
quote:I thought that question was answered a few pages back....??
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Can anyone explain this part of the pr?
Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO)
quote:Im asking him to STOP posting on IHUB because its making me VERRRRRY nervous. I probably shouldnt have asked him to come here, and honestly i dont really WANT him to post here....i kinda want him to READ here, as opposed to IHUB.
Originally posted by glassman:
OMG.... Catia? what are you asking for?
quote:I read it all on pg 59 but it is a bunch a legal terms that still leave me with questions. I was hoping someone could translate it, so a dummy like me could understand it better.
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:I thought that question was answered a few pages back....??
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Can anyone explain this part of the pr?
Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO)
quote:you have a full-servvice broker i assume?
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!
quote:I don't think it is Rufas posting on Ihub...
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Im asking him to STOP posting on IHUB because its making me VERRRRRY nervous. I probably shouldnt have asked him to come here, and honestly i dont really WANT him to post here....i kinda want him to READ here, as opposed to IHUB.
Originally posted by glassman:
OMG.... Catia? what are you asking for?
But, ok so the number in his IHUB sig isnt his cell and some lady answers. Has anyone verified that the number IS conversion solutions or possibly a phony? Did i just leave a lengthy voicemail for some scammer? Bah. Maybe ill call his cell later too.
Sorry Glass, im not trying to add to the chaos. Im just trying to sway him from playing with kids when there are adults over here.
quote:did you ask them how the info was generated?
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Yeah Glass , my Broker is Td Waterhouse the Pre- TD Amitrade here in the UK.
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Thanks again glassmas... I guess I'm the only dumbazz that doesn't understand what it means.. and what it means for the reset. Oh well thanks anyway.
quote:yeah, i'm trying to figure out if it's the same Hall...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
The 8 K has last name Hall from Dallas,
the earlier resignation is,
On May 18, 2006 Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP, the auditors
of Rockwall, TX.
Says it violated a loan covenant.
quote:it's getting that way JR... you sold on the ourstreet news?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
It is proof you need a lawyer just to trade stocks.
I would imagine most professional traders have one.
quote:be cool to see that e-mail, with header info...
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:you have a full-servvice broker i assume?
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!
quote:Yes, I got the news over the phone from my wife and wasn't in a position to follow it all day, I bought at 1.00 and it had fallen to .82 and I had no way of knowing how far it would fall. I took the safe road and sold.
it's getting that way JR... you sold on the ourstreet news?
quote:Today briefly, Rufas wouldn't respond to direct questions.
Originally posted by glassman:
comeon peas, do you think they would admit it?
i'm just trying to keep this board from turning into ihub...
have you gone over there lately?
quote:You need to put an order in to buy so you can capture the image of the denial for later.
Originally posted by betting babe:
JR, an interesting point since you bring up CMKX... and let me mention QBID as well...
Ameritrade didn't issue any alerts or special provisions regarding my buying of those pos stox.
so all this garbage about not being able to buy CSHD, i dont think it is my interests they have in mind.
cuz they sure werent around protecting me from getting whooped in the past.
~BB
quote:No Doubt.
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:be cool to see that e-mail, with header info...
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:you have a full-servvice broker i assume?
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!
quote:i don't think Rufus should be posting at all...i've said so lots of times..
Originally posted by Honesty101:
quote:Today briefly, Rufas wouldn't respond to direct questions.
Originally posted by glassman:
comeon peas, do you think they would admit it?
i'm just trying to keep this board from turning into ihub...
have you gone over there lately?
quote:if it flies? and AMTRD blocked buying? they may be in trouble..
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Why do they have to record this info Sceptor?? What can they use it for when this is all over?
P.S Tex check your PM
quote:LOL we knew this from the very beginning...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
quote:lost money. If you attempt to buy 10000 shares at a dollar and are refused and the pps resets to $54, I would be suing the crap out of them.
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Why do they have to record this info Sceptor?? What can they use it for when this is all over?
P.S Tex check your PM
quote:read dogs last post just before yours. Rufus stated they would have had to go to court to get a C&D and dog confirmed it. Is there really even the slightest possibility that you would believe our-street? Seriously?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
quote:He went on I-Hub a few times last year. This was back when I was warning folks what was going on with ole Frankie the Fraudster. I never owned that scam for more than a few days.
Originally posted by glassman:
i really don't...
i've only played a few pinksheets and never held any for very long...
. Dog,Chart,Tax,Glass,Babe,10,Crab. Can any of you guys give me a synopsis of what's going on. Wish I could read through the posts but got kids crying and wife yelling. Much appreciated. It looks like it's some good news.
quote:Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:read dogs last post just before yours. Rufus stated they would have had to go to court to get a C&D and dog confirmed it. Is there really even the slightest possibility that you would believe our-street? Seriously?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
quote:Absolutely, SEC filings can be truth and lies all tied together.
Originally posted by glassman:
SEC filings can be lies, but there is absolutely NO OTHER more credible source of information... it's that simple..
post what you can demonstrate...
cahrts are pretty solid evidence...
everybody here REALLY is trying to figure out what's really going on..
quote:Tell us in depth of these loophholes
Originally posted by Honesty101:
quote:Absolutely, SEC filings can be truth and lies all tied together.
Originally posted by glassman:
SEC filings can be lies, but there is absolutely NO OTHER more credible source of information... it's that simple..
post what you can demonstrate...
cahrts are pretty solid evidence...
everybody here REALLY is trying to figure out what's really going on..
I have noticed that FHAL/CSHD has been leaving ways out or loopholes in their SEC filing statements and PR's. This is what leads to my main reasons for skepticism of this.
Some of the things previously mentioned by myself and others here on today's PR alone is just one example.
quote:http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4646222&Ty pe=HTML
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
one afternoon I leave you guys alone for and all hell breaks loose
quote:The poster claiming to be Rufus used the wording "Federal Court", if the C&D was from a local court or State, he may be contending it is invalid.
Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
quote:the letter came from ourstreet.. no court papers have been presented...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
quote:The poster claiming to be Rufus used the wording "Federal Court", if the C&D was from a local court or State, he may be contending it is invalid.
Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
The number on the e-mail could be a typo?
I wonder if there is a way to search court docets on the internet?
quote:
Originally posted by Honesty101:
quote:He went on I-Hub a few times last year. This was back when I was warning folks what was going on with ole Frankie the Fraudster. I never owned that scam for more than a few days.
Originally posted by glassman:
i really don't...
i've only played a few pinksheets and never held any for very long...
Remember when I got banned last year from Allstocks for bringing a little sense to the QBID micro thread. Trying to warn folks is the unpopular thing to do, but I feel it is the right thing to do.
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
"The number on the e-mail could be a typo?"
A typo on a "C/D" order? For the header...the info on the company? No, it is actually an "old phone" number that Mr.Canady had back in '05
Do you not find it odd that the "domain name" of this "new email address" was "created" on August 28th (might be the 26th)?
quote:The writer of the article supposedly confirmed it with the fund.
According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
quote:surely you have seen the article implicating boyd in a scheme to manipulate the market. He's no angel, nor is he a trustworthy source.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
10 of 13,
Here is why I have a hard time following your reasoning. I could see it as a fraud because of the mixed up numbers, etc, but one problem from the ourstreet pr,
quote:The writer of the article supposedly confirmed it with the fund.
According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
quote:If they can't spell the name of the company...why would I believe that they confirmed it?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
you are saying the article in the NYP did not confirm it with the fund as stated.
quote:I'm saying he has been involved in this type of activity before. Shorting stocks and bashing them to drive the pps down is not new, and it's done by a lot of people.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
you are saying the article in the NYP did not confirm it with the fund as stated.
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
10 of 13,
Here is why I have a hard time following your reasoning. I could see it as a fraud because of the mixed up numbers, etc, but one problem from the ourstreet pr,
quote:The writer of the article supposedly confirmed it with the fund.
According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
[qb] the article was posted on here, ask betting babe if she can find it for you.
quote:Did it trade at 94 cents on friday, or was it written the day before the letter was supposedly sent.
currently trading at about 94 cents - would be worth at least $15, and maybe as much as $54.
quote:You are seriously playing with fire IMO. But hey, good luck and all that.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
You are much more beautiful than Christie Brinkley, does that make you feel better?
I am just trying to put the timeline together for legal action if I get screwed.
Sept 3 is the date of the article, but how did it get into the sept 3 paper, wouldn't it be dated the 2nd.
quote:LoopHole #1
Originally posted by 10of13:
OK..theory...Rufus "said" no r/s..but according to the 8K he has that option...
What is stopping him from buying up a large portion of the float right now..and then doing a r/s to get the PPS up to the near $15?
From the 8k
Paragraph (c)
2.3 MERGER CONSIDERATION.
(a) Subject to Sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6 and 2.8 , at the Effective Time, the holders of Company Shares outstanding at the Effective Time, other than the Buyer and its Affiliates, shall be entitled to receive, and the Buyer shall issue and deliver, for each Company Share held by such Person: (i) 1.0 share of the Buyer's stock or
(b) No fractional shares of the Buyer's Stock shall be issued or delivered in connection with the Merger. Instead, the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock to which a holder of the Company Shares is entitled to receive pursuant to this Article II shall be rounded to the nearest whole share (with 0.5 share rounded up to the nearest whole share).
(c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time.
quote:If you get screwed? This is the stock market man. You wont be collecting a dime by suing anyone. Although it does make you sound tougher. LOL
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
You are much more beautiful than Christie Brinkley, does that make you feel better?
I am just trying to put the timeline together for legal action if I get screwed.
Sept 3 is the date of the article, but how did it get into the sept 3 paper, wouldn't it be dated the 2nd.
quote:bzzzzt.
Originally posted by Honesty101:
[QUOTE]LoopHole #1
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
He knows of a C&D sent thursday night the very next day.
If the C&D was real only the foundation could get it to him that fast.
quote:and the bashers that pretend to know whats' going on are like halloween clowns...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I see what you mean BB. This totally amazes me. This stuff is seriously organized. It is hard to believe how sinister this looks.
quote:Perhaps now you are connecting dots that will satisfy you...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
It traded at .94 on sept 1, but not again til the 8th, so an article written during the day on friday. It did not close at .94 friday so he wouldn't quote that saturday.
He knows of a C&D sent thursday night the very next day.
If the C&D was real only the foundation could get it to him that fast.
quote:correct... and he may very well be worth going after..
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
the NYP doesn't live in slovinia.
quote:the writer's name is RODDY BOYD...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Was the NYP paid to print it?
quote:Dunno...but I bet they "get something" for all those clicks on their site...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Was the NYP paid to print it?
quote:uhhh? you are getting deep into speculation here now..
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
The other scenario is OurStreet put pressure on Canady who finally cut ties with CSHD, or tried to.
Why is our street pressuring Canady? Sincere in trying to expose them or working for someone else? What did they use for leverage?
No way the little man could ever figure this out.
quote:The chart clearly shows the reset occured sept 25. They halted trading for 30 days.
However... the reset didn't occur until well, i think 7oct03 at 4.00...
quote:your speculations are a week late. you should go back a week and read posts, it's been fully disected.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I am speculating, if Our street was smearing Canady the week before he had a reason. If Canady decided to issue a cease and decist he had a reason why. The post, the foundation, and our street seem to have some connection.
Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
I honestly don't get all this, except to say everyone wants to make money and some at the expense of others.
quote:we are all asking the same questions JR...
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I am speculating, if Our street was smearing Canady the week before he had a reason. If Canady decided to issue a cease and decist he had a reason why. The post, the foundation, and our street seem to have some connection.
Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
I honestly don't get all this, except to say everyone wants to make money and some at the expense of others.
quote:Whats the story with you.. read back and learn man!!! Please
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Sceptor,
do you know the real story or do you just know all the questions dissected.
I want the real story.
quote:interesting:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
quote:wait until it's over and then you can buy the book.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Sceptor,
do you know the real story or do you just know all the questions dissected.
I want the real story.
quote:we have been reading for 2 months. you got a lot to learn.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I have been reading, all day it seems.
quote:BB your my HERO!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
BB....you are awesome!
quote:hey thanks sceptor... still looking into it. i havn't found all info on the whole deal. i was unaware of the halt tho. but looking at the chart on bigcharts now i see that... looks to be .10 to 3.50... guess i should have tried looking there in the first place...
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:The chart clearly shows the reset occured sept 25. They halted trading for 30 days.
However... the reset didn't occur until well, i think 7oct03 at 4.00...
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=tbv&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma= 0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&state=8&sid=1663389&style=320&freq =1&startdate=9%2F20%2F2003&enddate=9%2F30%2F2003&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&noset tings=1&rand=2987&mocktick=1
quote:I dont really know. One of the guys on hsm pointed out the halt to me from his historical data. I'll look tomorrow and copy it here for you.
Originally posted by P Rowds:
however sceptor... looking at the chart... why did it gradually climb from .03-.10 before the reset if it was actually halted?
EDIT well i guess it could have opened for trading about a week before reset but you'd think there would have been a little more in fluctuation?...
this may be a dumb question scept... but is this graph that reliable? looking at the chart before the halt it shows it stayed at .02 for a month then starting in may sometime there is no data... just a question
quote:Someone on ihub just posted a lawsuit against him dated march this year. I have the opinion that the crystals thing is a front to make him look wacko.
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok, that's my DD sharing for the weekend. give y'alls something extra to read.
~BB
quote:good post...strong leads
Originally posted by betting babe:
i'll post just a little bit more, not sure if anyone here is interested...
So, the "owner" of oregonhost.com - the server that OurStreet uses, is Leslie French.
French is a former VICE PRESIDENT of ITEX Corp., a company that runs a trade and barter exchange. OTCBB: ITEX
he apparently has been sued numerous times for spreading false information on chat boards to manipulate several stocks:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20020305/ai_n10774325
Portland, Ore., resident Leslie French is the man behind "debin23," according to the lawsuit filed recently by Sensient, which produces colors, flavors and fragrances.
The lawsuit claims that French, as debin23, last October launched a "smear campaign" aimed at Sensient by posting libelous messages on Yahoo! Inc.'s Internet message board. The lawsuit says French launched the campaign "for his own gain" but doesn't elaborate.
"French has made false statements that assail (Sensient's) financial position and business methods, and has accused (Sensient) of tortious and criminal acts as well as mismanagement," the lawsuit says..."
anywayz... there's more to read there... i just find the server connection coincidental. does anyone have a name behind OurStreet aside from Timothy Miles?
and btw, French has won one lawsuit, and it was ruled that he can say anything he wants on the chat boards.
French says "No corporate executive worth his salt would dare be caught dead chasing after a few Internet posters."
interesting attitude... Leslie, meet Rufus.
~BB
quote:Maybe it was a payment error of 10 million??????
We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
quote:Or it could mean its totally fake and they want to "protect" their customers. I know Scottrade does this at times with some like PAIM and other sh!t stocks.
Originally posted by portman:
BB, that was some really good Internet DD on those sites.
**** SPECULATION ****
At this point I do not believe the Bonds where ever in any real jeopardy of being revoked.
Like I have said before. I think we may have gotten a whiff of some internal power jockeying or ego collisions. In reality these are not important but are easily distorted by the bashers.
TDA cutting off buying but not selling and even offering free transactions to sell is just one more confirmation in the "shorty" argument. Brokerage houses closing down half the transaction tells me the deal is real. The financial aspects of this deal have to be real in order for this to work. The houses that have restricted buying are confirming the deal in a very real way.
What is in question is the scope of the deal. For that we have to await the 10k.
quote:This was shorted long ago. the donkeys on ihub are continuously trying to come up with new and inventive ways to make this look like a bad trade for everyone. they will continue doing that until they are let go by their employers. The actual shorted like our-street will continue on forever.
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I have a scenario I am working on but can't confirm yet.
An IHUB poster who got out of CSHD said he knew of 10 Million Dollars owed to Sakli or the foundation.
Say it gets crunch time and Harris hasn't paid him yet, so he puts a little pressure by threatening to cancel the bonds and has this letter leaked on the 31st.
The next day Our-Street gets another letter saying the company is making amends, in other words making payment of what they owe.
quote:Maybe it was a payment error of 10 million??????
We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
If both e-mails were from Humanitarian and Scientific World foundation, then the bonds would seem to be in tact and in good standing.
The other scenario is they wanted this shorted, so they put out the letter to give shorts some fodder to place their bets. Now they are really trapped. TDAmeritrade being one so they stopped others from buying.
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
False accusation. Wrong.
You people have no respect for folks that have been here longer.
Why I even try to explain myself I dunno. Maybe it is better that I am banned from Allstocks....
quote:No 10. I am saying that is false and sceptor is wrong... You doubt me too?...
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
False accusation. Wrong.
You people have no respect for folks that have been here longer.
Why I even try to explain myself I dunno. Maybe it is better that I am banned from Allstocks....
No..
I had sent an email to the so called Humanitarian web address info*hsworldfoundation.com of the supposed C/D and now I'm getting stock spam to an account I never give out.
quote:Thanks Tex. I would really miss you guys, well a few of you. I wanted to IM or PM you but wasn't allowed so had to post publicly. Didn't want to though...
Originally posted by T e x:
will look into it...
quote:now? that makes sense...
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
GREAT!
namecalling will get you banned
quote:I do have multiple email accounts but when sending the one regarding the C/D, I overlooked changing the account structure of my Outlook to use one of my "discardable" email accounts. It was an oops on my part.
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:now? that makes sense...
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
GREAT!
if you guys are gonna use email accounts to try to DD some "wierdstuff" ? get a yahoo or a hotmail acct..
they won't work to sign up here...
BUT?
if they get spammed? just dump 'em and make another..
we tracked down several of the suspicious PR and e-mails from the "bashers' to yahoo accounts..
that's why they used them...
Inktomi servers are used by Yahoo
quote:Off topic, "Why, what do you mean?" Aren't we all most of the time?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:now? that makes sense...
Originally posted by StockterDooLittle:
GREAT!
if you guys are gonna use email accounts to try to DD some "wierdstuff" ? get a yahoo or a hotmail acct..
they won't work to sign up here...
BUT?
if they get spammed? just dump 'em and make another..
we tracked down several of the suspicious PR and e-mails from the "bashers' to yahoo accounts..
that's why they used them...
Inktomi servers are used by Yahoo
quote:Moneyx3...I was saying no you shouldn't get banned...I am confused as to what is going on...
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:No 10. I am saying that is false and sceptor is wrong... You doubt me too?...
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
False accusation. Wrong.
You people have no respect for folks that have been here longer.
Why I even try to explain myself I dunno. Maybe it is better that I am banned from Allstocks....
No..
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Or it could mean its totally fake and they want to "protect" their customers. I know Scottrade does this at times with some like PAIM and other sh!t stocks.
Originally posted by portman:
BB, that was some really good Internet DD on those sites.
**** SPECULATION ****
At this point I do not believe the Bonds where ever in any real jeopardy of being revoked.
Like I have said before. I think we may have gotten a whiff of some internal power jockeying or ego collisions. In reality these are not important but are easily distorted by the bashers.
TDA cutting off buying but not selling and even offering free transactions to sell is just one more confirmation in the "shorty" argument. Brokerage houses closing down half the transaction tells me the deal is real. The financial aspects of this deal have to be real in order for this to work. The houses that have restricted buying are confirming the deal in a very real way.
What is in question is the scope of the deal. For that we have to await the 10k.
Keep in mind folks, this could be a scam just as quickly as the next. Be careful and keep your eyes open for DD!!! Do your OWN DD and protect your capital.
quote:OK, i have just cleaned up the non-DD stuff as best i could without making the thread even stranger..
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Yes, of course. Thats what I'm here for too. I would have never started this conversation on this thread from the beginning if I'd had my PM to communicate through. Can you please find out or tell me whom do I need to contact to acquire it back?
it's a mess in here, ill PM ya.quote:Money...I was on the phone with TDA...reference one of my earlier posts.
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Or it could mean its totally fake and they want to "protect" their customers. I know Scottrade does this at times with some like PAIM and other sh!t stocks.
Originally posted by portman:
BB, that was some really good Internet DD on those sites.
**** SPECULATION ****
At this point I do not believe the Bonds where ever in any real jeopardy of being revoked.
Like I have said before. I think we may have gotten a whiff of some internal power jockeying or ego collisions. In reality these are not important but are easily distorted by the bashers.
TDA cutting off buying but not selling and even offering free transactions to sell is just one more confirmation in the "shorty" argument. Brokerage houses closing down half the transaction tells me the deal is real. The financial aspects of this deal have to be real in order for this to work. The houses that have restricted buying are confirming the deal in a very real way.
What is in question is the scope of the deal. For that we have to await the 10k.
Keep in mind folks, this could be a scam just as quickly as the next. Be careful and keep your eyes open for DD!!! Do your OWN DD and protect your capital.
quote:I wanted to bring this forward again since my junk is in the way
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:good post...strong leads
Originally posted by betting babe:
i'll post just a little bit more, not sure if anyone here is interested...
So, the "owner" of oregonhost.com - the server that OurStreet uses, is Leslie French.
French is a former VICE PRESIDENT of ITEX Corp., a company that runs a trade and barter exchange. OTCBB: ITEX
he apparently has been sued numerous times for spreading false information on chat boards to manipulate several stocks:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20020305/ai_n10774325
Portland, Ore., resident Leslie French is the man behind "debin23," according to the lawsuit filed recently by Sensient, which produces colors, flavors and fragrances.
The lawsuit claims that French, as debin23, last October launched a "smear campaign" aimed at Sensient by posting libelous messages on Yahoo! Inc.'s Internet message board. The lawsuit says French launched the campaign "for his own gain" but doesn't elaborate.
"French has made false statements that assail (Sensient's) financial position and business methods, and has accused (Sensient) of tortious and criminal acts as well as mismanagement," the lawsuit says..."
anywayz... there's more to read there... i just find the server connection coincidental. does anyone have a name behind OurStreet aside from Timothy Miles?
and btw, French has won one lawsuit, and it was ruled that he can say anything he wants on the chat boards.
French says "No corporate executive worth his salt would dare be caught dead chasing after a few Internet posters."
interesting attitude... Leslie, meet Rufus.
~BB
quote:Greenday..not knowing the "whole" story...I am only guessing that they are talking about "people" that had certs from quite a while before...they want ALL FHAL and CVSU certs to be turned in and accounted for BEFORE the completed merger...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
and I read this on hsm by "bodi" ... WHY????
Hear me plz, If you are a previous share holder (restricted certs or free trading) send your certs in to the transfer agent fedex overnight or what ever... to
Integrity Stock Transfer
2920 N. Green Valley Parkway
Building 5 - Suite 527
Henderson, NV 89014
before the 13th of september...just in case
quote:actually? i think scotty is working very hard at keeping the shares in their "bank" ...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I've got shares through both etrade and scottrade. Now I'm very nervous about my scottrade shares.
quote:Glass.. Happens to me and I've only been there a few times...
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody else having problems with ihub crashing the browser? i think they've got a virus..
the browser is Firefox..
quote:They are looking to tabulate the short count.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Greenday..not knowing the "whole" story...I am only guessing that they are talking about "people" that had certs from quite a while before...they want ALL FHAL and CVSU certs to be turned in and accounted for BEFORE the completed merger...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
and I read this on hsm by "bodi" ... WHY????
Hear me plz, If you are a previous share holder (restricted certs or free trading) send your certs in to the transfer agent fedex overnight or what ever... to
Integrity Stock Transfer
2920 N. Green Valley Parkway
Building 5 - Suite 527
Henderson, NV 89014
before the 13th of september...just in case
The way that I understand it...IF you have your shares through an online broker...your "FHAL" shares have already been "switched to" and accounted as CSHD shares...IF you have hard CERTS that say FHAL...they want them "turned over" to the CSHD CERTS...
quote:Dog...I think that this is where it started...
Originally posted by portman:
Glass, I will give the url to bodi's first post. It goes on interlaced with other stuff for pages and pages.
http://www.ho tstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41987&page=423
quote:please,
Originally posted by portman:
Glassman... does the "IMO" not properly class the comment?
quote:that is why i dont allow members to rating me
Originally posted by trade04:
one star now? ubelievable lol..71 votes...insane...everyone is just jealous bahaha
quote:yes, LOL...
Originally posted by dollar13:
this people in i hub are crazy.
i been reading for the last hour
quote:there's a hole in his logic, i'm surprised nobody pointed out that naked shorting is illegal unless you are an MM...
Originally posted by sceptor:
He actually posted in a manner that supports shorting. He's an idiot.
quote:u can short what's ever available for shorting.. also TDA is a bit shady, one of my buddies sold his PAIM shares during the reorg phase, then after the reorg, TDA showed that he shorted PAIM and owed 12k .. it's weird..
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:there's a hole in his logic, i'm surprised nobody pointed out that naked shorting is illegal unless you are an MM...
Originally posted by sceptor:
He actually posted in a manner that supports shorting. He's an idiot.
quote:
Originally posted by Synastar:
Wasn't around on Friday, but have now caught up... It's so funny how this thread has been going for 70 pages, the thread before that around as long and the thread before that over 200 pages and now, out of the blue, certain folks magically show up wanting to know "what's going on with this stock" and begin casting doubt when we get some very good news. That crap might work on the hub, but it doesn't fly here. Bashers go home. Oh, and if you're not a basher, you won't feel the need to get defensive over this post will you? After all, I didn't name anyone.
quote:yes, but shares must be located as colateral when you short...
Originally posted by lostone:
u can short what's ever available for shorting.. also TDA is a bit shady, one of my buddies sold his PAIM shares during the reorg phase, then after the reorg, TDA showed that he shorted PAIM and owed 12k .. it's weird.. [/QB]
)quote:i dont think this is a good post, for newbies trying to find out about this stock what do you want than every newbie than come in here start reading the entire theread come on guys.
Originally posted by Synastar:
Wasn't around on Friday, but have now caught up... It's so funny how this thread has been going for 70 pages, the thread before that around as long and the thread before that over 200 pages and now, out of the blue, certain folks magically show up wanting to know "what's going on with this stock" and begin casting doubt when we get some very good news. That crap might work on the hub, but it doesn't fly here. Bashers go home. Oh, and if you're not a basher, you won't feel the need to get defensive over this post will you? After all, I didn't name anyone.
quote:me neither,
Originally posted by lostone:
i've never heard of MM's losing tho.. but that may just be my ignorance.. the worst that can happen to them is getting sued and ending up settling, which doesn't really hurt them as much as we'd want anyway.. rich only gets richer.. ha!
but this could be some thing else
quote:shares short are more at this time give or take..
Originally posted by blanco4444:
does anyone know the float? shares short are 2,470,845
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
News Details
Timothy Miles, A.K.A. 'Nick Tracy,' In Slovenia, Gives Up..
2005/05/09 00:39:31
'Our-Street' Website (1 of 2)
(financialwire.net via COMTEX) -- May 9, 2005 (FinancialWire) "Nick Tracy," whom FinancialWire unmasked in an expose a year ago as no stock hero, but rather a never-do-well individual named Timothy Miles charged by U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission with stock fraud and charged by detractors as being a sloppy investigator who despite picking some bad apples, has almost never had his facts straight, says he's giving up his website, "Our-Street.com."
Whether that is true or another subterfuge, the irrepressible self-appointed "scam cop" has his SEC trial coming up in June. The other two individuals charged with him have also reportedly left the country. He is appealing a ruling against him in a case involving Circle Group Holdings (AMEX: CXN), and he continues to claim credit for "discovering" a phone scam involving six companies, including American Multiplexer Corp., Donini Inc. (OTCBB: DNNI), 5G Wireless Communications Inc. (OTCBB: FGWC), Innovative Food Holdings Inc., and Power3 Medical Products (OTCBB: PWRM) and their shareholders which the SEC recently said was in reality "discovered" and reported by the largest number of investors in its history.
True to his history of questionable diligence, the now apparently "former" Our-Street" proprietor has continued to suggest that the companies themselves were involved in the scam long after the SEC had said none of them were found to have been involved.
Although Miles had reveled in his oft-stated position that he is "judgment-proof,: in an essay entitled, "Thinking of Suing Our-Street? Read This," he stated that on May 5 he had handed off his ownership to "new owners." Like "Nick Tracy" before FinancialWire unmasked Miles, they are anything but transparent.
http://www.amex.com/?href=/newsDetails/CmnNewsDet.jsp?id=XpressFeed_NewsDetails_ 1115613571208.html
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
interesting:
Street's not subscription-revenue based. the 'subscribe' link on Street didnt work, and i wanted a copy of his email header, so i emailed him
i asked 'your subscribe link doesnt work how can i subscribe?'
he emailed back 'I hadn’t decided if I wanted to do that or not but just activated it.. please try now.. and thanks…'
hence i got the email header.
irony:
there is a website that exposes supposed "scams" in the model industry. it is called "easy background check"
many in the model industry say it is a guy outside the US who takes payments from one competitor in the fashion biz to slander another.
for instance: http://www.clerimodelsmanagement.com/
the host for easybackgroundcheck.com: oregonhost.com
the host according to Street's header: oregonhost.com
now read what oregonhost.com has been accused of:
http://easybackgroundchecked.com/oregonhost.htm
the contact for Oregon Host is accused of Corporate Cybersmear
and oregon's contact, Leslie French's current website is for a radio station that covers Modeling Scams and Finance Scams. (i know, coming from me this is really weird)
http://www.lesfrench.com/
tie all that together with Roddy Boyd, Oregon and one of the cybersmear cases, Nanopierce Technologies:
From 'SHORTS' NEMESIS DUMPED A
CLIENT'S SHARES' By RODDY BOYD
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/344847.shtml
Nanopierce Technologies Inc. v. Louis DiFrancesco, (D. Col., complaint filed Oct. 1998). See http://www.denverpost.com/enduser/nano1214.htm
http://www.cybersecuritieslaw.com/oldsite/corporate_cybersmear_cases.htm
seems that this server is frequently used for supposed "scambusters".
it also provides anonymous email, which is likely what Street uses for those that tried to decipher their header:
http://www.johndoes.org/html/paypal.html
are you sure Slovenia isn't in Oregon?
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i'll post just a little bit more, not sure if anyone here is interested...
So, the "owner" of oregonhost.com - the server that OurStreet uses, is Leslie French.
French is a former VICE PRESIDENT of ITEX Corp., a company that runs a trade and barter exchange. OTCBB: ITEX
he apparently has been sued numerous times for spreading false information on chat boards to manipulate several stocks:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20020305/ai_n10774325
Portland, Ore., resident Leslie French is the man behind "debin23," according to the lawsuit filed recently by Sensient, which produces colors, flavors and fragrances.
The lawsuit claims that French, as debin23, last October launched a "smear campaign" aimed at Sensient by posting libelous messages on Yahoo! Inc.'s Internet message board. The lawsuit says French launched the campaign "for his own gain" but doesn't elaborate.
"French has made false statements that assail (Sensient's) financial position and business methods, and has accused (Sensient) of tortious and criminal acts as well as mismanagement," the lawsuit says..."
anywayz... there's more to read there... i just find the server connection coincidental. does anyone have a name behind OurStreet aside from Timothy Miles?
and btw, French has won one lawsuit, and it was ruled that he can say anything he wants on the chat boards.
French says "No corporate executive worth his salt would dare be caught dead chasing after a few Internet posters."
interesting attitude... Leslie, meet Rufus.
~BB
quote:Last I checked it was still around 30M...
Originally posted by blanco4444:
does anyone know the float? shares short are 2,470,845
quote:please 10
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Last I checked it was still around 30M...
Originally posted by blanco4444:
does anyone know the float? shares short are 2,470,845
quote:Actually I think it is a great post for newbies. THe best thing any newbie can do is their own DD. Part of that DD is reading the board and doing follow up DD on what is posted. The board gives them a starting point from there it is neccessary to verify and continue on.
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i dont think this is a good post, for newbies trying to find out about this stock what do you want than every newbie than come in here start reading the entire theread come on guys.
Originally posted by Synastar:
Wasn't around on Friday, but have now caught up... It's so funny how this thread has been going for 70 pages, the thread before that around as long and the thread before that over 200 pages and now, out of the blue, certain folks magically show up wanting to know "what's going on with this stock" and begin casting doubt when we get some very good news. That crap might work on the hub, but it doesn't fly here. Bashers go home. Oh, and if you're not a basher, you won't feel the need to get defensive over this post will you? After all, I didn't name anyone.
quote:how long it would take me to read the entire thread damn.LOL
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Actually I think it is a great post for newbies. THe best thing any newbie can do is their own DD. Part of that DD is reading the board and doing follow up DD on what is posted. The board gives them a starting point from there it is neccessary to verify and continue on.
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i dont think this is a good post, for newbies trying to find out about this stock what do you want than every newbie than come in here start reading the entire theread come on guys.
Originally posted by Synastar:
Wasn't around on Friday, but have now caught up... It's so funny how this thread has been going for 70 pages, the thread before that around as long and the thread before that over 200 pages and now, out of the blue, certain folks magically show up wanting to know "what's going on with this stock" and begin casting doubt when we get some very good news. That crap might work on the hub, but it doesn't fly here. Bashers go home. Oh, and if you're not a basher, you won't feel the need to get defensive over this post will you? After all, I didn't name anyone.
Remember giving a synopsis on this stock or anyother stock really isn't effective without providing the 100's of links that have been provided previously.. It's all those links and the work of many here that has worked.
Everyone, especially newbies need to learn how to DD. If they can't even go back and real the threads they are destined to failure.
This is my opinion nothing more nothing less.
GLTA
Wally
quote:roger that 10
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dollar...30M is the float...not the shorts...
quote:Thank You Surfer. That is how DD is done and I appreciate your sharing.
Originally posted by a surfer:
the float is 29,373,701
Integrity stock transfer 877-317-7757
Last I checked was thurs. P.M.
quote:i think some day of this week we will have this report ABOUT THE NEW SHORT SALES interest.
Originally posted by glassman:
dollar 13:
that short information is a one-day snapshot from the close on Aug 15...
that number is generated at this site here:
http://otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
it can no longer be considered reliable...
however? the stock is still listed ont he SHO list here:
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
the SHO list means shares have been sold and NOT delivered....
it has been on the SHO list for 23 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2006 Through 09/08/2006
quote:i will be check on that...
Originally posted by glassman:
the next report will be filed on 9/26/2006, it will be available to US on 9/27/2006.
it will reflect the short interest at the close of business on 9/15/2006 and those shares would have been traded on 9/12/2006....
Firms are required to report their short positions as of settlement on the 15th of each month, or the preceding business day if the 15th is not a business day. The reports must be filed by the second business day after the reporting settlement date. The short interest data is compiled and provided for publication on the 8th business day after the reporting settlement date.
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
dollar 13:
that short information is a one-day snapshot from the close on Aug 15...
that number is generated at this site here:
http://otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
it can no longer be considered reliable...
however? the stock is still listed ont he SHO list here:
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
the SHO list means shares have been sold and NOT delivered....
it has been on the SHO list for 23 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2006 Through 09/08/2006
quote:blanco i guess you dont have nothing to say
Originally posted by blanco4444:
this # is from friday the 10th
http://www.shortsqueeze.com/index.php?symbol=cshd
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
dollar 13:
that short information is a one-day snapshot from the close on Aug 15...
that number is generated at this site here:
http://otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
it can no longer be considered reliable...
however? the stock is still listed ont he SHO list here:
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
the SHO list means shares have been sold and NOT delivered....
it has been on the SHO list for 23 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2006 Through 09/08/2006
quote:wrong
Originally posted by blanco4444:
oh ok, sorry my bad i thought that they do report everyday
quote:hehehehe guess Glassman and the Mods squad ban her from here..GOOOOOODDDDDDDD...go CSHD 30K X $54 = 1.62 million.
Originally posted by portman:
Interesting read. PG is now at the end on the CSHD board in IHUB.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13075905
Read to the end...interesting.
But hell guess i'm just dreamming i was hoping for it to be 5.00 i'll be happy:)quote:seeing you post positive on CSHD makes my confident bosst 110%.
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Chart setting up for something here..
Volatility has bottomed.
Price pattern is a loosely formed handle.
quote:i don't even know what are you doing hear
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:seeing you post positive on CSHD makes my confident bosst 110%.
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Chart setting up for something here..
Volatility has bottomed.
Price pattern is a loosely formed handle.
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:i don't even know what are you doing HERE
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:seeing you post positive on CSHD makes my confident bosst 110%.
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Chart setting up for something here..
Volatility has bottomed.
Price pattern is a loosely formed handle.
STOP FOLLOW ME AROUND
quote:Good morning.
Originally posted by betting babe:
you know, i was thinking of calling TDA for that very reason and saying i want to buy shares
and see if i insist what they do.
i mean, what- close out my account and go to another broker?
it'd be different if they all were doing it, but just my broker? that's not right.
good morning peeps
~BB
quote:Yea, there is another IHUB poster from his "organization" too. "Lady" something, id have to dig it up again. Judging by their site they seem to like IHUB for their "work".
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
yep as soon as he got something from the poster know as "Rufus" over there he admitted who he was and completly dissapeared...wierd, wierd situation, lol...
quote:Funny...MSN quotes CITI * 1.50 and Yahoo quotes it at .38. Very little news to be found on either site and pinksheets dot com has no recent news.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
CITI... wow, from like .12 to $1.50
Some happy people there
quote:.30 x 1.50 on 0 vol
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Funny...MSN quotes CITI * 1.50 and Yahoo quotes it at .38. Very little news to be found on either site and pinksheets dot com has no recent news.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
CITI... wow, from like .12 to $1.50
Some happy people there
quote:
They have to allow buys if written instructions are sent in by fax and then followed up by an immediate phone call. Most if not all brokerage firms have the clause in the original agreement you signed that they can refuse to take an order unless written instructions are given. This is how they protect themselves and this is also a good indication they are now in a sqeeze. The orders need to be made very firm and everyone has to be very insistent with their brokers.
quote:Blonde Golden Retriever puppy... Got hime for the kids three weeks ago. He is currently 10 weeks old.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
what kind of puppy tax?
quote:surfdumb was banned last night from the cshd thread. Both he and lady 12... they are mods in pennyfriends thead. She reminds me of anniebonnie.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Yea, there is another IHUB poster from his "organization" too. "Lady" something, id have to dig it up again. Judging by their site they seem to like IHUB for their "work".
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
yep as soon as he got something from the poster know as "Rufus" over there he admitted who he was and completly dissapeared...wierd, wierd situation, lol...
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:surfdumb was banned last night from the cshd thread. Both he and lady 12... they are mods in pennyfriends thead. She reminds me of anniebonnie.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Yea, there is another IHUB poster from his "organization" too. "Lady" something, id have to dig it up again. Judging by their site they seem to like IHUB for their "work".
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
yep as soon as he got something from the poster know as "Rufus" over there he admitted who he was and completly dissapeared...wierd, wierd situation, lol...
quote:Here's a pic of our Golden napping, she's passed on now. The chocolate lab idolized her, and for good reason.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Blonde Golden Retriever puppy... Got hime for the kids three weeks ago. He is currently 10 weeks old.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
what kind of puppy tax?
quote:beats me.
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Why did you get the boot scep?
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:surfdumb was banned last night from the cshd thread. Both he and lady 12... they are mods in pennyfriends thead. She reminds me of anniebonnie.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Yea, there is another IHUB poster from his "organization" too. "Lady" something, id have to dig it up again. Judging by their site they seem to like IHUB for their "work".
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
yep as soon as he got something from the poster know as "Rufus" over there he admitted who he was and completly dissapeared...wierd, wierd situation, lol...
i dont have him yet tho... he's only 3 weeks old. mine is a pekepoo, a pekenese/poodle.
quote:Just 400...but it was likely the fastest purchase I have made to date. I would have expected a sell to go that fast, but not a buy. I think most likely are mirror trades....but I also don't think the MMs are scared about covering JMHO.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ryan...the Leonberger is orignally a cross between the Newfie and St. Bernard...tight lips...no drool...Only breed that I have ran across that the males and females actually "look" different...males get a "mane" like a lion...females don't (like the female lion)...really cool bread...they are costly though..$1800-2000 a pup...
Cat...best breeds are the "mutts" IMO...
Sherri? Was it a large order? The volume is really pretty high on this and it doesn't seem to want to go one way or the other...maybe just mirror trades?
quote:No kidding...Maxx is about 60 lbs., so I know his granddaddy must have been a big boy. I'd never been around an Akita before these three (I had Murphy and Maddie, Maxx's sister too)...would love to own one the rest of my days.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Man sherri I feel back for that jack russel
quote:Hopefully none of us will! "$$$$"
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
you'll never be the same now standard
quote:Yeah, CSHD looks pretty good, but I'm not wondering about the return on what's in the bank...it's definately going up, albeit slower than paint drying in a Southern AL thunderstorm, but nonetheless going up. If I see $2 a share on CSHD, I will be just as happy, well, "just" was a bad choice of words... LOL
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
SherriT... Sounds to me like you did the right thing
quote:-guess not! lol ~~
Originally posted by SherriT:
Since we got on the subject of emptying accounts...have we heard any more from the nut who mortgaged her house to buy shares?
quote:First picture just came through...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:It would almost be interesting if after each sale there would be a pic of the person who just sold, I'd like to see just what a real Dumbazz looks like!! lol ~
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
you'll never be the same now standard
lol ~
quote:Watchdog type... been working for the State of Michigan for some time.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Here is an article with some example of Benson's DNR audit work.
http://www.mlui.org/landwater/fullarticle.asp?fileid=6475
quote:I just talked with him and not using any of
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well look at that IHUB finds something worth while... I decided that since nothing was going on I would go DD the new auditor and found several really interesting Benson's out there but based on the strong ties to the address settled with the same one that came from IHub.
Great credibility and I can say yet another person is now linked to this who would not put a great reputation at risk.
Nice little power MI power couple here.
Thomas & Gloria Benson
4599 Mistywood Dr
Okemos, MI 48864-0316
(517) 349-6423
Phone Details
Line Type: Land Line
Provider: Ameritech Michigan
Chief, Internal Audit, Thomas Benson
phone: 517-373-0755
e-mail: bensonth*michigan.gov
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366-121644--,00.html
Office of the State Employer
TREASURY
Gloria Benson 335-1911 335-2605 BensonG*michigan.gov
I hate posting peoples info... but as government employees it is already out there.
quote:It isn't due till the end of the month, but it can come out anytime between the 14th and 30th.He just can't say exactly for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Voodoo...he said He was working on it and it wasn't due until the end of the month?
quote:Right...
Originally posted by VoodooNola:
quote:It isn't due till the end of the month, but it can come out anytime between the 14th and 30th.He just can't say exactly for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Voodoo...he said He was working on it and it wasn't due until the end of the month?
quote:"Everything is going smoothly."
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Right...
Originally posted by VoodooNola:
quote:It isn't due till the end of the month, but it can come out anytime between the 14th and 30th.He just can't say exactly for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Voodoo...he said He was working on it and it wasn't due until the end of the month?
I am just asking for what he said...
" I've been working on the finacials from July 2005 through June 2006 to be included in the 10K which it due by the end of the month."
quote:update on his finacial dates above
Originally posted by 10of13:
Thanks Voodoo...
quote:Nice DD, 10. Well one thing is for certain...if the government employees up there are anything like the ones down here, they don't have much to do during regular hours, so he should be paying attention to the work he does for CSHD
Originally posted by 10of13:
I also recieved an email from Thomas Benson confirming that it is the correct CPA. He gave me no other information, only that he was the one.
That gives me a "good feeling" knowing that a "government" employee is "involved"...(I think...LOL)
quote:If everyone hasn't noticed the buzz around CSHD in that it's pretty much always near the top if not on the top of the list here they probably wouldn't notice or comprehend the $1.00 to $54.00 but hey, you never know.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Want some activity... Start a new thread on Allstocks and call it "CSHD $1.00 to $54.00 on Wednesday at 4PM EST!!!" I don't know what else you have to do to get interest, but personally I like the quiet.
quote:Probably because I bought 1000 more shares at $1.03 at 2:45pm central time. The drop started immediately after I bought...go figure!
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Lol.....why did we hold nice gains throughout the whole day, and then go down in the last 10 minutes under a $1
quote:I was really just kidding... but it does surprise me that more people are flocking around this following Fridays date and time announcement. Now granted our DD shows it may take longer than Thursday... but who with an extra $50 bucks would not want in at this level knowing that a merger completion is happening this week?
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:If everyone hasn't noticed the buzz around CSHD in that it's pretty much always near the top if not on the top of the list here they probably wouldn't notice or comprehend the $1.00 to $54.00 but hey, you never know.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Want some activity... Start a new thread on Allstocks and call it "CSHD $1.00 to $54.00 on Wednesday at 4PM EST!!!" I don't know what else you have to do to get interest, but personally I like the quiet.
Personally, I will always look at something when it has the kind of hype this one has...and I mean hype in the most positive sense of the word.
quote:What no love for me here?..............j/k
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Nice DD, 10. Well one thing is for certain...if the government employees up there are anything like the ones down here, they don't have much to do during regular hours, so he should be paying attention to the work he does for CSHD
Originally posted by 10of13:
I also recieved an email from Thomas Benson confirming that it is the correct CPA. He gave me no other information, only that he was the one.
That gives me a "good feeling" knowing that a "government" employee is "involved"...(I think...LOL)
quote:My apologies, Voodoo...no offense intended. I think everyone on this board contributes in whatever ways they can - some with awesome DD, some with killer charting, and some of us with our thumb up our rear trying to learn how to help out. Great group of folks the whole lot of ya!
Originally posted by VoodooNola:
quote:What no love for me here?..............j/k
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Nice DD, 10. Well one thing is for certain...if the government employees up there are anything like the ones down here, they don't have much to do during regular hours, so he should be paying attention to the work he does for CSHD
Originally posted by 10of13:
I also recieved an email from Thomas Benson confirming that it is the correct CPA. He gave me no other information, only that he was the one.
That gives me a "good feeling" knowing that a "government" employee is "involved"...(I think...LOL)
quote:SO that kinda makes it sound like no 10k this week - watcha think 10?
Originally posted by 10of13:
SHERRI!!!! LOL...(the song)
And one last response from Mr. Benson...
"I anticipate having the audit completed by September 30 barring any unforeseen snags."
quote:Good 10of13 now lets disect this sentence...
Originally posted by 10of13:
SHERRI!!!! LOL...(the song)
And one last response from Mr. Benson...
"I anticipate having the audit completed by September 30 barring any unforeseen snags."
quote:Take it back, Chart, take it back! No extensions are allowed!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
They almost have to PR SOMETHING after Wednesday...
Everyone will be like... ok.... -now what?
Well, we waited this long...
But if an extention is filed "I'm going on a RUFUS ROADTRIP!" ha ~
quote:Nope... that sentence was a dead end.
Originally posted by 10of13:
OMG...I was "reading" on the ihub...(yes I am going to go shower now)...but was looking forward to "getting back home at allstocks" and here is tax...having a heck of a time googling a sentence...LMAO....
Did you figure it all out yet tax?
don't forget to look at the word "snags"...they could all be fishing and using their laptops...to respond...so as long as they don't snag any trees or anything they might make it back from the fishing trip to get the audit done by the 30th...
LOL
quote:the email that I sent was to the michigan.gov address...if he was no longer there it would have been sent back...government is "quick" at one thing...getting people off of their systems,when no longer employeed...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well he definitely has a day job... this was May 2006
[url= http://www.michigan.gov/documents/currentorg_112205_7.pdf#search=%22%22Thomas%20 Benson%22%20Michigan%22]http://www.michigan.gov/documents/currentorg_112205_7.pd f#search=%22%22Thomas%20 Benson%22%20Michigan%22[/url]
quote:Or it is forwarded to his replacement to maintain business continuity.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:the email that I sent was to the michigan.gov address...if he was no longer there it would have been sent back...government is "quick" at one thing...getting people off of their systems,when no longer employeed...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well he definitely has a day job... this was May 2006
[url= http://www.michigan.gov/documents/currentorg_112205_7.pdf#search=%22%22Thomas%20 Benson%22%20Michigan%22]http://www.michigan.gov/documents/currentorg_112205_7.pd f#search=%22%22Thomas%20 Benson%22%20Michigan%22[/url]
quote:Are you drinking?
Originally posted by betting babe:
hrmm... IMHO:
here we have mr catia, referring to a post that he claims he didnt read...
is he trying to inject suspicion here?
then he turns it around, blaming otheres..
mr catia, are you even holding shares in this 'joke'?
clearly from your Jerry Garcia quote we can infer you are short.
well, the truth will come out, nothing more, nothing less.
heah. jk!
~BB
quote:headlock / noogie shouldnt leave any bruises. Nice try tho.
Originally posted by betting babe:
if i bruise it's workman's comp rite?
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
OT: nah, i like to flush my money down one toilet at a time, so i can watch it swirl. see if it comes back up and overflows
quote:ehheaheheah! um, hrm, what else could you have meant? o-:-)
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Oh yea, BB....just FYI i said noogie. Ya know, with a "g". Theres a difference, i just wanted to be clear.
[/QUOT
quote:Read my prior post before quoting... you are taking things out of context. that is the thing about doing your own DD... you have to make sure you don't read just half the story.
Originally posted by VoodooNola:
quote:Are you saying I want this to be a lie?
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well that is the thing about good DD... you can't make it lie even when you want it too.
This Benson guy is just a bean counter with a cape. LOL
lol ~
quote:He was at $55 last week...LOL
Originally posted by dog:
ARCA with 350 block at $50.
quote:He's bored...
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:He was at $55 last week...LOL
Originally posted by dog:
ARCA with 350 block at $50.
quote:You might not be able to see "him" if you are using etrade Pro...(maybe if you click the expanded version...I don't have mine up at the moment so i can't remember)but with the etrade Market maker...he is at the bottom...
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good day all!
Just got off work.
Day before the completion of the merger... not excatly sure what that means but it sounds good.
Let's have some green today!
btw. where do you all see ARCA at $50? I have etrade and don't see him in my L2's
quote:Hmmmm, id say thats pretty interesting. Do you have other potential companies in your portfolio that could have spun-off something like this? And, do you have 10,000 shares of CSHD if you dont mind me asking?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
OMG!!
BIG APPLE WORLDWIDE INC (BPWW)
Is this a spin off of cshd or something else?...
My optionxpress account is showing that I now own
10,000 shares ($500) restricted....
Where did they come from??????
I'll be checking into this more...
My scottrade account doesn't show any of these...
???????
quote:Chartman...you lost me here...when are we thinking it will be out?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
guess we know when the 10k is coming out eh?....
quote:That should come after the true short position is revealed. The shares cshd and others have bought to cover the float look like market shares presently. The nobo list will clarify it for everyone.
Originally posted by dog:
There will come a point when their (MM's) agreement breaks down. Then it's every MM for himself......
applies in many ways)
quote:I believe there should be some sort of announcement of the "Merger Completeion" If we are lucky, this PR will deliver glimps of a before and after picture of the company's whole value. Like "FrontHaul was this much in debt", now following name change and merger "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." is this big and debt free. A good PR on the merger completeion could spark a portion of the price correction we are all wanting.
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Given the 8-K and PR of last Friday, at the very least there should be a PR tomorrow announcing the status of the merger's completion and an update on events since Friday......
quote:I suppose that "Haulting" the trading as of EOD Wednesday is a possiblity...and then wait for the reset of the "new PPS"...when ever the 10K might be finished...
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I would guess we should have an eod run. If the merger is complete at the end of trading today..."maybe" it will be haulted at eod today. Then it will reopen at reset price of 10k sometime between tomorrow and the 30th. This is JUST me wondering - not a fact.
quote:You know I wondered the other day why we haven't won the war on terrorism yet. Then I thought about it and realized that it just isn't that easy to picture their side of the fight, when you don't understand it. How can we all see the whole picture.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
"But why in God's name would TDA NOT be covering more?"
That's the only thing that bugs me....
I mean to SHUT DOWN buying and say you can sell and we'll even sell them for you "free" -no commission?!!..
-what is going on?!
.
quote:had it for a few seconds...toss another number out there and see if she bites!
Originally posted by ruthie:
Come on $1.00....This thing needs to start on an uptrend...........
and Uncle Smelly of course they just keep comming back.)
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:He was at $55 last week...LOL
Originally posted by dog:
ARCA with 350 block at $50.
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Conspiracy theorists enlighten me...
I believe it was Arca that was "buying up" the shares for Rufas to place in the trust...
quote:Conspriacy theory. Nothing more nothing less. Rufus has struck a deal with ARCA to open at 50+ dollars after reset. Remember that a MM has to support it not just quote it. So Rufus has some institutions that have agreed to support it at 50+. ARCA seems like a lone wolf MM so what would they care if they burned some other MM's and broker's by doing it. Heck they can load the boat here at this level and make a killing. OKAY that's my conspiracy theory. Maybe it would make a better novel than anything else but since you asked I played along.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Conspiracy theorists enlighten me...
I believe it was Arca that was "buying up" the shares for Rufas to place in the trust...
quote:Interesting? IMO thats friggin huge. The more links i see between CSHD and AISS the happier i get. Now let me see, anything we can cut to pieces in that there document?
Originally posted by dog:
Interesting DD. New filing for AISS, in case noone has seen it yet. Note the agent: Maurice Bennett
and signed on 9-2-06.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Filings.asp?381934
quote:He plays the role of the "High profile attorney" in this version of "Conversion Solutions As the World turns"
Originally posted by RichBy26:
How is Bennett linked to CSHD??
quote:Yeah good luck with that one. SEC filing forgery? It takes less than a second to verify it with the SEC filing list (it is public) and he wouldn't spark a fight with Rufas as much as he would the SEC itself. Now to mention it. I hope our-street does just that. Not just for this stock, I would like to see that trash site owner hauled off to jail for the good of all small companies out there trying to enter the free market.
Originally posted by milliam:
If all of yall think an extension would trigger a huge selloff (and I too think it would)...then I predict that sour-street might just put a NT 10k for CSHD up on his site tomorrow that he somehow got a hold of. Probably wouldn't be too hard for him to forge one of those up and PR it.
quote:LOL, thanks CAT!!! I agree with you that this is a huge revelation:)
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:He plays the role of the "High profile attorney" in this version of "Conversion Solutions As the World turns"
Originally posted by RichBy26:
How is Bennett linked to CSHD??
quote:It is the
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
can't pull up that filing... -what's the "just" of it?!
quote:Are you bipolar bb? lol
Originally posted by betting babe:
we're up!
we're down
we're up!
we're down!
prozac anyone?
quote:What does this mean. Is this good for those of us who own.?????
Originally posted by leanlow06:
thought i would post this, just got it from TDAmeritrade, took them about 5 min. to respond.
Mr. W********:
TD AMERITRADE has made a business decision not to allow further opening transactions on the security CSHD at this time. This could change tomorrow or it could be indefinite. The decision was made to protect our clients as well as our firm. We would not be able to compensate you due to this decision. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Elisabeth D.
Apex Client Services, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
Original Message Excluded:
quote:True...maybe "they" are just "renewing' around the time that they did the name change...?who knows...but I'll tak it...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
10 it is not late... the renew date just has not been changed... look at the updates on the inital screen.
9/19/2005 Annual Registration
10/26/2005 Annual Registration
1/18/2006 Annual Registration
1/18/2006 Annual Registration
9/2/2006 Annual Registration
Does not point out when the $30 was paid.
quote:Chartman...what does TDA being short have to do with them protecting their clients? Unless they don't want people to know they are short...correct?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
YES Casviper GREAT news! they are short and are covering we believe, no one else is doing this only TDA...
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Interesting? IMO thats friggin huge. The more links i see between CSHD and AISS the happier i get. Now let me see, anything we can cut to pieces in that there document?
Originally posted by dog:
Interesting DD. New filing for AISS, in case noone has seen it yet. Note the agent: Maurice Bennett
and signed on 9-2-06.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Filings.asp?381934
quote:Nah...check back later...sometime between September 15th and October 1st...
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How's the cult going today? $54 yet?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Looking good... I got a fresh goat for the altar.
Just waiting on the word from Lord Rufus on when to get the big knife out.
quote:That would be my interpretation as well. Full steam ahead now.
Originally posted by betting babe:
isnt this from the weekend that mensah was on PalTalk on a cellphone complaining that the deal wasn't solid?
looks like it was re-solidified.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Interesting? IMO thats friggin huge. The more links i see between CSHD and AISS the happier i get. Now let me see, anything we can cut to pieces in that there document?
Originally posted by dog:
Interesting DD. New filing for AISS, in case noone has seen it yet. Note the agent: Maurice Bennett
and signed on 9-2-06.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Filings.asp?381934
quote:We really need to get a Q & A pamphlet made up.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
If this thing resets to $15.00+, won't it tank some 80-90% the very same day, as everyone & their mother will be selling to make profit?
quote:No need Sceptor. Go look through some of his recent posts. He mostly just jumps in and labels the stock...typically POS, and then disappears. If you made a pamphlet he wouldnt read it, he would just call it a POS and move on.
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:We really need to get a Q & A pamphlet made up.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
If this thing resets to $15.00+, won't it tank some 80-90% the very same day, as everyone & their mother will be selling to make profit?
quote:Not at all. Just that seems to be when the games are played.
Originally posted by ruthie:
Do you really want an EOD crash?
quote:My suggestion...Don't expect to be spoon fed everything here. I have a lot of dumb azz questions too, but I do my best to work through the thread to find the answers.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Nice observation Catia - BTW, it's not like you can't say that the stocks I called POS's, aren't.
My question was the first I posted in this forum and I expected an intelligent answer - not to be labeled as a POS critic.
quote:I don't...in all honesty, logic would dictate that the stock should fall after a reset. We've been told that support will be there, but you never know day to day what will happen. My hope is that all of us looking to take profits will make a nice bit of change, whatever the $ amount works. No offense intended whether you are in this or out...
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
This is a friggen cult since no one can give me a straight answer.
I bet all of you sit in front of your computer with purple sheets wrapped around you wearing new white high-top sneakers - don't you?
quote:how about just being labeled a pos then? You know where to find the door I assume.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Nice observation Catia - BTW, it's not like you can't say that the stocks I called POS's, aren't.
My question was the first I posted in this forum and I expected an intelligent answer - not to be labeled as a POS critic.
quote:that is what "most" would think...as I do...BUT so much will depend on what the company has to say at the time of the reset...IMO...
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
If this thing resets to $15.00+, won't it tank some 80-90% the very same day, as everyone & their mother will be selling to make profit?
quote:Sorry, i didnt mean any harm and i surely wasnt labelling you as you suggested. I just felt it was a loaded question, im sure im wrong.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Nice observation Catia - BTW, it's not like you can't say that the stocks I called POS's, aren't.
My question was the first I posted in this forum and I expected an intelligent answer - not to be labeled as a POS critic.
quote:There was one mentioned not to far back in the thread...TVB or something like that...you'd have to check...
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Thanks SherriT
Do you know if a reset, along with significant PPS jump has happen to another stock in the past?
quote:And its not the first time you posted here actually. DD yourself and you will see.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Nice observation Catia - BTW, it's not like you can't say that the stocks I called POS's, aren't.
My question was the first I posted in this forum and I expected an intelligent answer - not to be labeled as a POS critic.
quote:Thanks for the info on the STOCK 10! Tomorrow should be fun! Have a great evening everyone!
Originally posted by 10of13:
I just called the TA as of now 29.9M float and 97.2 o/s
Again this is "some of the old CVSU shares" not all...and he did say that they would need to have all of the CVSU accounted for before the 10k would be filed...and "he had heard" that the 10k would be either this week or next...
Soooo, this "NOBO" that they are wanting for tomorrow end of day? that is needed in order to complete the 10k..Correct?
quote:In most cases, when I posted a stock was a POS, previous posters have done the same. I don't make it a habit to go into a thread and call the stock POS without it being the general consensus of that thread - and by the way, the stocks I posted as POS - I own, or have owned, so I know the history and DD of them.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Sorry, i didnt mean any harm and i surely wasnt labelling you as you suggested. I just felt it was a loaded question, im sure im wrong.
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Nice observation Catia - BTW, it's not like you can't say that the stocks I called POS's, aren't.
My question was the first I posted in this forum and I expected an intelligent answer - not to be labeled as a POS critic.
As for the stocks you call POS. I dont know the answer for that because ive never DD's the ones im referring to. Have you? Because it would have been more helpful for those people in the threads you posted to if you had actually explained WHY it was a POS. Just a thought.
Again, no harm intended.
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
we're up!
we're down
we're up!
we're down!
prozac anyone?
quote:I don't know of one with what I would call a SIGNIFICANT price increase, but the PRs 10of13 mentioned supposedly will support it. The last PR I saw that talked about price was in the $26 range - the $54 I believe came from the infamous barbecue - a "he said she said".
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Thanks SherriT
Do you know if a reset, along with significant PPS jump has happen to another stock in the past?
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
PPS dropping:
What if?????????
I Pr comes out stating that the spin off stocks will be for share holders who are holding at the end of the second day of trading after reset.
The PR also states that several "deals" are now done that didn't make the 10k, so even though the PPS is coming out at $54 it really is a $120 stock right now, and with (fill in the blank) company now joining the PPS will soon be in excess of $200.00.
I could go on and on on how Rufus could get people to NOT wantto give up thier shares!
If Rufus really laid down a solid PR with facts and figures, yeah, the IPO price might just climb.
This is something each person will have to decide for themselves...
We know Rufus is up to something.... -what is it?
-and how BIG is it?....
Soon we'll know IMO ~
quote:To my understanding...no
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Does anyone know if there was a price reset when Furia "aquired" Fronthaul in a similar way that Fronthaul aquired Conversion Solutions?
quote:I'm still sticking with my original 10K prediction: 9/25
Originally posted by 10of13:
I just called the TA as of now 29.9M float and 97.2 o/s
Again this is "some of the old CVSU shares" not all...and he did say that they would need to have all of the CVSU accounted for before the 10k would be filed...and "he had heard" that the 10k would be either this week or next...
Soooo, this "NOBO" that they are wanting for tomorrow end of day? that is needed in order to complete the 10k..Correct?
quote:I will find the link on HSM for us tonight when I get home. There were several who maintained and extended higher from what I remember. Let me verify that and get that info here.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:There was one mentioned not to far back in the thread...TVB or something like that...you'd have to check...
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Thanks SherriT
Do you know if a reset, along with significant PPS jump has happen to another stock in the past?
But yes....resets do happen....when there is a re-orginization of sorts...
quote:Well, let's see. In a nutshell.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I'm a little off today can you elaborate on your hint portman.
quote:Portman, I am hoping to buy a new (bigger) house for my wife and two girls. I kinda like the idea of not having a house payment.
Originally posted by portman:
Tut certainly is fun.
Chartwalker...very interesting prognostication. BTW, I tend to subscribe to that analysis ATM.
BTW, has anyone who really thinks this stock is good near or long term placed it in thier Roth IRA?
*That's a hint folks*
quote:Ryan...the idea of knowing you have a place for your family to live and be safe no matter what is a pretty cool feeling. How old are your kids?
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Hey St. that's what I'm shooting for. Only difference is I have a boy and a girl
quote:Holding it a year could help keep some of it...
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:Ryan...the idea of knowing you have a place for your family to live and be safe no matter what is a pretty cool feeling. How old are your kids?
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Hey St. that's what I'm shooting for. Only difference is I have a boy and a girl
I will use some of the money to buy more XKEM stock.
quote:Dude...I feel for you. I am 45 yrs old, married to a beautiful Greek girl who is 34. She has the personality of Grace from Will and Grace. We have a beautiful 6 yr old girl and a gorgeous 6 month old girl. I do not sleep much. I want to do this for them.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Well I'm 31 my wife is 30. My daughter is 3yrs old and my son is 7wks old.
quote:Don't call it a dream....call it a goal so you will actually get there.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
that's the dream sherri
quote:SherriT - Remind me sometime to tell you about my 20/80/300 plan. I set it up myself but I personally think it is more realistic than the 10% version you spoke of. So far it is paying off huge for me. It is basically a way to turn 15K into 800K every year.
Originally posted by SherriT:
10% return on one well planned trade per month....
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:I will find the link on HSM for us tonight when I get home. There were several who maintained and extended higher from what I remember. Let me verify that and get that info here.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:There was one mentioned not to far back in the thread...TVB or something like that...you'd have to check...
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Thanks SherriT
Do you know if a reset, along with significant PPS jump has happen to another stock in the past?
But yes....resets do happen....when there is a re-orginization of sorts...
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
CITI? I dont see a price rest and its only at .38 lmao!
quote:Yea, i know. It sure makes my plans of paying a few things off and then going stupid crazy, grossly splurging on myself in reward for hanging on here so long. For now, ill keep my dreams to myself. I dont want someone stealin 'em!
Originally posted by betting babe:
yikes! everything below that post went baby.. baby.. responsibility.. family.. baby.. divorce.. wife/husband/pets/plants.. baby...
*puts hands over eyes*
tell me when it's over
quote:LMAO bid .30 and ask $11.00
Originally posted by betting babe:
perhaps you're too busy lyao to read the CITI 8K that resembles the FHAL 8K so very closely..
and it's bid .30 / ask 11.00 / last 1.50
tho you'll see more accurate numbers regarding the merger/reset in their 8K.
i mean, if you have time to read it between all that laffin.
~BB
and the wholequote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
CITI? I dont see a price rest and its only at .38 lmao!
quote:Yea, ill let you take it for a spin at your party
Originally posted by dog:
nah Cat... go big. Without dreams, life just isn't that interesting. The most important and memorable moments of my life have been in things that I was told by others was not possible. Staus quo and static lifestyle may be ok for some.... but the growth is slow , if any.
You got one life... go for it.
Ferrari Spider convertible is a good look.
quote:You! Are a very shrewed mammal!
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Don't call it a dream....call it a goal so you will actually get there.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
that's the dream sherri
I'm sure I will illicit some groans here, but figure out what it will take. We know the market is volatile, but you also can look at your past performance and determine what you can safely do trading if you follow your plans. I read somewhere once that a 10% return a month (and we know that can happen in a day if you trade the ranges) starting with, I think it was 5K, would net you in the millions in 5 years. Granted, you roll your winnings in every time, but on a smaller, more realistic investment scale, you don't think you can plan on paying off a nice home within 5 years? And that was only a 10% return on one well planned trade per month....(or your overall portfolio)
JMHO....
quote:You can end up like that movie Italian Job- the guy ends up getting everything that everyone told him they were going to get (after taking their millions of course).
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Yea, i know. It sure makes my plans of paying a few things off and then going stupid crazy, grossly splurging on myself in reward for hanging on here so long. For now, ill keep my dreams to myself. I dont want someone stealin 'em!
Originally posted by betting babe:
yikes! everything below that post went baby.. baby.. responsibility.. family.. baby.. divorce.. wife/husband/pets/plants.. baby...
*puts hands over eyes*
tell me when it's over
quote:"PLEASE Let US help YOU build this baby!!!"
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I will it will take me some time to explain and I don't know if CSHD is the right thread for it. I had planned on writing it in the 1k to 1 million thread and letting people pick it apart there. Or starting a thread for it alone. I really think it is pretty solid, just I don't have all the rules knocked out yet to publish my book yet.
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT - Basically it is 23 well researched trades a year. 13 that produce 20% profit, 6 that produce 80% profit, and 4 that produce 300% profit. Obviously the 80% and 300% gainers are the most difficult and one could say may not even happen.
The key is in the research and focus on each stock before you make the buy. Anyway, you start each path out with 5K each and if you atleast hit your 13 20% gainers in the year you will have 200K in profits.
Two things I really like about it is it diversifies you unlike the 10% version, and it doesn't place to much capital into one penny stock where you become the major shareholder.
Just for completeness if you hit the 80% goal you will also clear 200K, and if you by some stretch hit the 300% goals you clear 400K. Bring most of it back home and begin the new year, week, month... with a fresh 15K.
By the way CSHD is one of my 300% stocks. So if it hits 7400% gain I may be able to count my 300% goals done for this year.
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Great news today.
Please re-read this. If this deal was going to be terminated as in choice C then Rufus would have to have given notice today. He did not and that leaves choice C as the most likely. Either way this deal can't fall thru now. It is too late! Worse case senario is A which still leaves us at one dollar. This is a no loose situation at the current price of $1.
"In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date."
2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.
In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Hahha is no one taking seriously that CITI is bid .30 and ask $11.00
i hope we dont have a bid of $1.00 and ask at $54 with one trade at $54 the "reset" price and then just going back to where we started
Bid/Ask has to be very close on this reset to be effective in any way!
quote:Exactly I know that, and that's why I'm concerned the reset price will not hold and we will be back at the levels we are now in no time. Hopefully that is not the case. I have been in since the time FHAL was at .74, I've been holding long and strong with a little over 2,000 shares.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stocktrader...so you are in CSHD? The thing with the "reset"? Only one share HAS to trade at the "promised" reset price...and "Rufas" would have "kept" his word...
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Hahha is no one taking seriously that CITI is bid .30 and ask $11.00
i hope we dont have a bid of $1.00 and ask at $54 with one trade at $54 the "reset" price and then just going back to where we started
Bid/Ask has to be very close on this reset to be effective in any way!
quote:Haha, can you imagine what these Michigan roads to do those?
Originally posted by dog:
Got a picture for you Cat....
http://www.ferrariworld.com/FWorld/fw/index.jsp
quote:i never thou.. about that way
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Hahha is no one taking seriously that CITI is bid .30 and ask $11.00
i hope we dont have a bid of $1.00 and ask at $54 with one trade at $54 the "reset" price and then just going back to where we started
Bid/Ask has to be very close on this reset to be effective in any way!
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
THIS DEAL IS GOING THRU! THE MM'S DID NOT BAIL TODAY. ARCA KEPT THE PRICE UP TODAY NOT DOWN!
It's like Christmas eve and santa is coming real soon!
quote:
Originally posted by 6digits:
BABE YU VELLY PHUNNY RADY
quote:excuse me while I whip this out.
Originally posted by betting babe:
vaff out voud viggy!
quote:
Originally posted by 6digits:
BABE YU VELLY PHUNNY RADY
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
quote:Boy you missed the first half of the show didnt you.
Originally posted by 10of13:
?NASDAQ?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
quote:That is new for me....
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
My point is the MM "support" we saw today.... not the rule....I'd have to check... the point is the positive involvement of an MM that Rufus said he needed post re-set.
quote:yuppers
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Plus ARCA flashing blocks at $50-55 ask for past couple of weeks. I don't think that's by accident.
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
My point is the MM "support" we saw today.... not the rule....I'd have to check... the point is the positive involvement of an MM that Rufus said he needed post re-set.
quote:*that* is incorrect.
Originally posted by T e x:
where's *that* coming from?
quote:Please tell us that you don't know the man in "red syspenders"~
Originally posted by 6digits:
BABE YU VELLY PHUNNY RADY
quote:agreed
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Plus ARCA flashing blocks at $50-55 ask for past couple of weeks. I don't think that's by accident.
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
My point is the MM "support" we saw today.... not the rule....I'd have to check... the point is the positive involvement of an MM that Rufus said he needed post re-set.
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Boy you missed the first half of the show didnt you.
Originally posted by 10of13:
?NASDAQ?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
Nasdaq is the goal, with $100+ within 3 months of getting there. I think it's sooner than most think now though.
quote:I like that, and I agree, would never put thousands (at least the ones I would have to at 10% a month) in a penny stock. Thanks for sharing!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT - Basically it is 23 well researched trades a year. 13 that produce 20% profit, 6 that produce 80% profit, and 4 that produce 300% profit. Obviously the 80% and 300% gainers are the most difficult and one could say may not even happen.
The key is in the research and focus on each stock before you make the buy. Anyway, you start each path out with 5K each and if you atleast hit your 13 20% gainers in the year you will have 200K in profits.
Two things I really like about it is it diversifies you unlike the 10% version, and it doesn't place to much capital into one penny stock where you become the major shareholder.
Just for completeness if you hit the 80% goal you will also clear 200K, and if you by some stretch hit the 300% goals you clear 400K. Bring most of it back home and begin the new year, week, month... with a fresh 15K.
By the way CSHD is one of my 300% stocks. So if it hits 7400% gain I may be able to count my 300% goals done for this year.
quote:good post...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Nah...didn't miss a thing...
BUT...There's alot more to the NASDAQ than trading above a dollar...
I'm not one for attempting to read in between any type of lines...
that's when you get people's hopes and money tied up with the potential of misleading them...
I don't play that...
Deal with the "reset" and then go from there...IMO...
Ya'll can play that game...but don't attempt to mislead people in the hype....IMO!
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Boy you missed the first half of the show didnt you.
Originally posted by 10of13:
?NASDAQ?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
Nasdaq is the goal, with $100+ within 3 months of getting there. I think it's sooner than most think now though.
quote:I second that, except mine is a German sweet thang! "No juice in Mommy's new car"...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
BB, and Mr Cat...
I may be in a world of babies and responsibilities, but don't think for a second that will stop me from getting my Italian engineered road rocket. Just means I have to upgrade the house to one that has a much larger garage.
quote:Portman...I don't think that anyone actually verified that it was ARCA that was "buying shares for the trust" (via Rufas)...but it is the one that we "thought was" doing it...and ARCA has been on the ask at $50 and $55 a few times the past week...he sat at 1.05 late in the afternoon today...
Originally posted by portman:
Didn't Rufus use ARCA to buy the trust shares? I thought I read that somewhere.
quote:10!!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Nah...didn't miss a thing...
BUT...There's alot more to the NASDAQ than trading above a dollar...
I'm not one for attempting to read in between any type of lines...
that's when you get people's hopes and money tied up with the potential of misleading them...
I don't play that...
Deal with the "reset" and then go from there...IMO...
Ya'll can play that game...but don't attempt to mislead people in the hype....IMO!
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Boy you missed the first half of the show didnt you.
Originally posted by 10of13:
?NASDAQ?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
Nasdaq is the goal, with $100+ within 3 months of getting there. I think it's sooner than most think now though.
quote:Very valid point...IMHO it is more about screwing shorty.
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:I like that name, IS IT REAL?
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Topic: CSHD= FHAL + CVSU/ Is it real?
This thread name needs to change. Any suggestions?
Topic: CSHD merger today/price reset soon!!!!
quote:Believe me , i have ask that exact same question to my self many times . And i would like to have an awswer, but i really dont know how that can happend.
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:CSHD RESET/$15-$55 SOON!
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Topic: CSHD= FHAL + CVSU/ Is it real?
This thread name needs to change. Any suggestions?
Topic: CSHD merger today/price reset soon!!!!
quote:I think I remember rufas saying "the right place at the right time"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:Where have you been? This has not been easy!
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:I think I remember rufas saying "the right place at the right time"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:Basher!!! LOL
Originally posted by P Rowds:
Ok... everyone is throwing the 50 dollar reset around... i just want ppl who havn't been following around to know where that branched from... i havn't been able to follow as close as i was in the past. but, wasn't that figure taken from a post on a forum? that wasn't an actual release correct? it was originally $15 and this is the latest news about the reset
"With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO."
this was taken from a release on 18aug. here is a link http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5 Cpr%5C2006%5C08%5C18%5C82161777.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DPR_NEWSWIRE&s ymbol=CSHD
just trying to keep things straight... alot of ppl getting excited. and yes i understand they aquired a bond( http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5 Cpr%5C2006%5C08%5C24%5C82370502.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DPR_NEWSWIRE&s ymbol=CSHD ) after that release... but as i said, no figure has been actually released (that i'm aware of) except the 25 dollar one... if anyone has info about the 50 dollar release please post... thanks
quote:Hell we are only talking about 5000% not 30,000 like SPEA.. peanuts
Originally posted by dollar13:
so all this in that web site about shell stock, is actually what is going to happend to CSHD?
quote:exactly... stock, he's not doing it for us... as many have stated, you might not even be able to trade at that price if MM's tank it. but looking at one example of TBV that didn't happen. it went for a while (3.50ish-2.40ish in week in a half) but then it shot to 13ish... note the "ish's" going off the top of my head. rufus made it clear, in my mind, he would like to see his company succeed. so i don't believe that "he's just trying to hook all of us up" is the case at all.
Originally posted by betting babe:
possibly he is doing this merger/reset for the benefit of his own business.
the fact that there are shareholders who benefit is a by-product of the shell acquisition.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:I think I remember rufas saying "the right place at the right time"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
From IHUB:
Posted by: rookiecrd1
In reply to: None
Date:9/12/2006 10:14:49 PM
Post #of 72874
CSHD the whole situation explained!
Well I thought I would put together a little outline of why I think this stock is gonna really go to $30+.
Back in July Rufus Harris and CVSU decided to merge with the almost bankrupt company FHAL. CVSU already had Hundreds of millions in assets and chose this company with a market cap of around $10 million at the time. You may say, this doesn't make sense, why would they give away a large share of their company to FHAL shareholders. Here is why:
The biggest piece of information I discovered was why they Chose FHAL out of all the other possible companies. FHAL was a company ready for bankruptcy, they found that the Amazon deal was not what they had thought. Not only this but the same naked shorters that plagued the other company Rufus was involved in (BBAN) were involved in FHAL as well. Like Rufus said "the right place at the right time". CVSU was approached by FHAL for funding, Rufus knew that these shorters were also trying to bring down FHAl like they did with BBAN, and at the same time was looking for a way to take CVSU public and carry out his plan. FHAL was the one he chose for the reverse merger.
Now there are people that keep claiming this is too good to be true, however, Reverse mergers have proven in the last 2 years to be the way for investors to find the 50+ baggers. Check out http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssr-Home.html !
Now, the company, CSHD. The merger will take place officially tommorow after hours. The SB4 should be filed and possibly the 10k soon after. There may be a halt on Thursday.
What is CSHD? It is a holdings company. They hold assets, in the way of bonds, and use these bonds to borrow money against, to fund various ventures. CSHD seems to be involved in State run, and Governement projects. They have links to the environment, the military, and state governments. People keep asking where are these bonds coming from? How do they just get these bonds for free? Well, most of these bonds are given to them and placed in a trust managed by both the charity that gave the bond and CSHD. These charities purposes are to fund various projects in various industries, and they do get a return for sharing the bonds with CSHD.
quote:HAHA!
Originally posted by a surfer:
Basher!!! LOL
quote:We all know the log deal is dead to be honest
Originally posted by 10of13:
What also seems to have been forgotten is the original "logs in the Amazon deal" IF this is still a go...there are huge "tax bennies"...It may not be a profit...BUT...tax deductions are needed in Companies..and if the HSWF is a non profit type of place...this might be one of the things that "allowed" them to help...just thinking in print...
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
From IHUB:
Posted by: rookiecrd1
In reply to: None
Date:9/12/2006 10:14:49 PM
Post #of 72874
CSHD the whole situation explained!
Well I thought I would put together a little outline of why I think this stock is gonna really go to $30+.
Back in July Rufus Harris and CVSU decided to merge with the almost bankrupt company FHAL. CVSU already had Hundreds of millions in assets and chose this company with a market cap of around $10 million at the time. You may say, this doesn't make sense, why would they give away a large share of their company to FHAL shareholders. Here is why:
The biggest piece of information I discovered was why they Chose FHAL out of all the other possible companies. FHAL was a company ready for bankruptcy, they found that the Amazon deal was not what they had thought. Not only this but the same naked shorters that plagued the other company Rufus was involved in (BBAN) were involved in FHAL as well. Like Rufus said "the right place at the right time". CVSU was approached by FHAL for funding, Rufus knew that these shorters were also trying to bring down FHAl like they did with BBAN, and at the same time was looking for a way to take CVSU public and carry out his plan. FHAL was the one he chose for the reverse merger.
Now there are people that keep claiming this is too good to be true, however, Reverse mergers have proven in the last 2 years to be the way for investors to find the 50+ baggers. Check out http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssr-Home.html !
Now, the company, CSHD. The merger will take place officially tommorow after hours. The SB4 should be filed and possibly the 10k soon after. There may be a halt on Thursday.
What is CSHD? It is a holdings company. They hold assets, in the way of bonds, and use these bonds to borrow money against, to fund various ventures. CSHD seems to be involved in State run, and Governement projects. They have links to the environment, the military, and state governments. People keep asking where are these bonds coming from? How do they just get these bonds for free? Well, most of these bonds are given to them and placed in a trust managed by both the charity that gave the bond and CSHD. These charities purposes are to fund various projects in various industries, and they do get a return for sharing the bonds with CSHD.
quote:Seems I remember that $54 coming from one of his "paltalk things"...around the time of that BBQ...
Originally posted by a surfer:
p-rowds I beleive that the figure of $54 was
mathematically accepted as the total new book value X 2 assuming the bonds were legit.
quote:Right 10.. Its funny how the #'s have been slothed around like it was written in stone...
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Seems I remember that $54 coming from one of his "paltalk things"...around the time of that BBQ...
Originally posted by a surfer:
p-rowds I beleive that the figure of $54 was
mathematically accepted as the total new book value X 2 assuming the bonds were legit.
But no I don't believe it was ever in "writing"...the last was the $25.63 I believe...
quote:funny about memory, eh?
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Seems I remember that $54 coming from one of his "paltalk things"...around the time of that BBQ...
Originally posted by a surfer:
p-rowds I beleive that the figure of $54 was
mathematically accepted as the total new book value X 2 assuming the bonds were legit.
But no I don't believe it was ever in "writing"...the last was the $25.63 I believe...
quote:Welcome LS...
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
newbie post here.(780 strong.. all the bucks i can afford to lose * about .76)
I have enjoyed this thread. Learned alot. Thanks.
Looking toward tomorrow for good things.
quote:hey tex... the 2nd bond pr only states the bond not "the new reset price of 54 dollars" thats why i posted it on my above post... on the other bond post it talks about 25 and some change... unless you are talking about doing the math yourself...
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:funny about memory, eh?
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Seems I remember that $54 coming from one of his "paltalk things"...around the time of that BBQ...
Originally posted by a surfer:
p-rowds I beleive that the figure of $54 was
mathematically accepted as the total new book value X 2 assuming the bonds were legit.
But no I don't believe it was ever in "writing"...the last was the $25.63 I believe...
as I recall, w/o checking? that price came from the 2nd-bond PR...
quote:Tell my kids that would ya? LOL
Originally posted by dog:
There is no such money that one can ever afford to lose. IMO
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
"just thinking in print...
hey!
don't steal my lines...
quote:Caution and sceptisism is always good. It protects principle. But penniess are pennies!!! On the realjust think about some who bought 10,000 dollars worth of PAIV at .006 and then sold at say .18 like some did, BOOM you now have 300,000 Bills!!! Crazier things have happened. That just to say the argument that "if it sounds to good to be true then it probably is" is good to keep in mind but it is not authoritative to all curcumstances. Plus, I believe it was about a week back that various DD by the briliant folks here on this board did that brought out and article among other things that reverse mergers into a bankrupt shell company is not all that uncommon (didn't that come from a Forbes Magazine??) Bottom line is the ground is one limit, and the sky is another!!! Some might be happy with "DA MOOOOOOON" limit!!! Do your DD and act on it...
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:Title option:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:I think I remember rufas saying "the right place at the right time"
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Here is my question.
why in the world would Rufus want to make us all rich, and with no hassle? It is hard to believe that all you had to do was buy 10,000 shares at $1.00 and all of a sudden you are at $500,000 after a reset. I'm still having trouble the cliche, if it's too good to be true it probably is.
quote:Who's misleading with what hype? As I recall I said it was incorrect and provided the file for folks to read about just what is required to list on the nasdaq.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Nah...didn't miss a thing...
BUT...There's alot more to the NASDAQ than trading above a dollar...
I'm not one for attempting to read in between any type of lines...
that's when you get people's hopes and money tied up with the potential of misleading them...
I don't play that...
Deal with the "reset" and then go from there...IMO...
Ya'll can play that game...but don't attempt to mislead people in the hype....IMO!
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Boy you missed the first half of the show didnt you.
Originally posted by 10of13:
?NASDAQ?
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Sandor has something I think...
If the deal wasn't going thru.. he would have had to public withdraw from the deal by 4pm today.
ARCA was parked at just above a dollar to support the price. This has not been done before by ARCA.
He has his MM support... now we keep above dollar for thirty days to go to NASDAQ.
imo
Nasdaq is the goal, with $100+ within 3 months of getting there. I think it's sooner than most think now though.
quote:LOL
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey Maumee...not sure but I think that you just called me a "slimie dog"
quote:2.
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
hello sceptor,
do you happen to remember approximately how many pages back you provided that file? thanks.
quote:Guten morgen, Wie gehts frau babe?
Originally posted by betting babe:
guten morgen
quote:Yea, im expecting visitors roday as well. Put the plastic covers on the furniture and bust out the cheap dinnerware...we're having company!
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I just dropped by over at Iscrub. I think a bunch of people are expecting the 10k after hours or pre hours tomorrow. The bashers are definately playing on this already. They know nothing was said about the 10k in that time frame. Be prepared to have a barrage of crap from them if it doesn't come tonight.
quote:SE Michigan. South of Ann Arbor actually. We jokingly call it Cabellaville now but officially its Dundee.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Hey Cat what part of Michigan are you from. My wife is originally from Michigan
quote:Mid 80's ? If it is...I'm buying mooooore!
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:LOL
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey Maumee...not sure but I think that you just called me a "slimie dog"
Not really....
Snakes aren't slimie!!!!
Nope.... This was a pre-cognative post....It's sole purpose was to DEFLATE that so called, "Macys'" "Float" "Ego" thing that you suddenly came down with... I could see it commin in the future, and did not want you to look like The Cat in the Hat, caught up in a power line....
How dare you speak your opinion!!!
Shamefull....
LOL
Hold the fort down today kiddo!!!
I wouldn't be suprised if this taps the mid 80's today.......low side of the ever tightening trading range...
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quote:I think i pass through that area when i head North for long weekends. Why would she leave? She had the advantage of showing where she lived on the palm of her hand!
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
My wife is from a small town called Chesaning. It's about 20min outside of Owosso.
quote:Excellent find Crab... I like this line.
Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
morning all...work has been a b*tch this week...haven't been watching as much as i'd like...
well...while searching my potential new employer's website i came across one of their press releases...
good site...never really knew it even existed, lol...
http://www.nasd.com/PressRoom/NewsReleases/2006NewsReleases/NASDW_017308
a week or so old...but relevant none the less, lol...
quote:Where do you see that, is there anywhere i can go to see all the mm's?
Originally posted by RichBy26:
morning gang! ARCA on ask at $95, wierd...
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
She still does that. This is where I'm from to funny. Babe can probably back me up on this. If you ask someone from Jersey where they're from the tell you an exit off the turnpike or parkway. It's funny
quote:the 2 days is preceding the merger not post.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Can anyone confirm this against the 8k. I'll look also. It was a post on ihub
Read the 8K, the time line is in section 2.6. It says within two days of the closing date. That would be Friday at the leatest for the reset, but it doesn't mention the 10K. One would assume that the 10K would be the justification for the rest. We all have to hold on until maybe Monday. But I think it will hit friday after the close to allow a cooling off periord.
quote:I hate to ask a (semingly) stupid question, but who / what is ARCA?
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:cshd said the merger closing is today at market close. I think you are listening to the wrong people.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
According to the 8k if I'm reading this correctly. Friday might be the day please correct me if I am off on my logic.
In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to : (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; shares of Buyer's or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
quote:Being kind of new to all of this i would guess ARCA is just buying and has no interest in selling. Is it meant to be a sign? Sure, maybe. But, thats just a reaction to how human nature works, we are always looking for signs of something. Im not going to read into it too much right now...unless its a once ever scenario.
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
All,
With ARCA on the ask so high,
who do YOU think that is a message to?
quote:so the reset will happen today, Wed the 13th?
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:cshd said the merger closing is today at market close. I think you are listening to the wrong people.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
According to the 8k if I'm reading this correctly. Friday might be the day please correct me if I am off on my logic.
In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to : (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; shares of Buyer's or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
quote:yep almost all buys today and they drop it on a couple sells, total BS...But that's how they do us!
Originally posted by leanlow06:
ok, we have a ton of sales go through at 1.01 and three go through at 1.00 and the bid dropes....
quote:They said the merger would complete today. They did not say anything about the reset, so who knows.
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:so the reset will happen today, Wed the 13th?
Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:cshd said the merger closing is today at market close. I think you are listening to the wrong people.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
According to the 8k if I'm reading this correctly. Friday might be the day please correct me if I am off on my logic.
In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to : (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; shares of Buyer's or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
quote:Yea, i know. I want to believe its a sign, i really really do.
Originally posted by dog:
We are reading a little into it cuz Rufus said that was who he puts his buys and sells thru....
quote:Help me out here guys...who /what is ARCA?
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:I hate to ask a (semingly) stupid question, but who / what is ARCA?
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:St. Matthew,
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:Help me out here guys...who /what is ARCA?
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:I hate to ask a (semingly) stupid question, but who / what is ARCA?
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:Well, im not MM or ECN expert but im guessing its these guys?
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:Help me out here guys...who /what is ARCA?
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:I hate to ask a (semingly) stupid question, but who / what is ARCA?
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:You have a PM...top left under you name...
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:Help me out here guys...who /what is ARCA?
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:I hate to ask a (semingly) stupid question, but who / what is ARCA?
Originally posted by dog:
If CSHD trades at greater than $1 for 30 consecutive days... we go to NASDAQ.
ARCA supported the greater than dollar price at 3:30 pm. Parked at $1 and never left... even when PPS was less....
quote:no worries.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Sceptor I was reading a little into the two day thing. Lack of sleep. I was reading that after completion of merger today. They had two days to do the reset. I took that post down because I believe I had read the info wrong. Sorry to anyone that might have gotten their hopes up.
quote:He's on the ask at .998
Originally posted by dog:
Is ARCA selling? Tried to interpret from level 2's... what ya think Chart?
quote:You sure about the Viper thing?...
Originally posted by milliam:
The vette is actually a viper and its been there for quite awhile. I'm not sure about the $$$ quotes though.
quote:Maybe you havent notice the massive amount of covering then. If they werent afraid they would never bother with covering.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I hate to say it, but not one mm looks scared right now. Hopefully that changes in a huge way soon.
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey 10!!!
You keepin your head outta the wires??
quote:Have fun with that! Too damp out to do the "mudding" so just hang it...
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
This is how bad it is....
I'm gunna go finnish some drywall for some excitement...
WOW!!!!
That is sad!!!!!!!!
quote:heck yeah...Damp is the best way!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat,... do you know the trick with the damp sponge so you don't have to sand?....
Buddy of mine showed me that, just feather out the edge, worked great!
quote:Yeah those a great..But you still have to "tape" and get all the corners....painting bites...BUT i prefer it over mudding...
Originally posted by glassman:
wagner power roller= friend
quote:Do it right, and you don't even barely have to do that...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat,... do you know the trick with the damp sponge so you don't have to sand?....
Buddy of mine showed me that, just feather out the edge, worked great!
quote:rat.... you gonna just let this go?!!!! lmao!!
Originally posted by glassman:
yep and clean up everything after...
one thing i learned a long time ago? anything with vaseline on it is easy to clean up
quote:Enough said Walker!!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:rat.... you gonna just let this go?!!!! lmao!!
Originally posted by glassman:
yep and clean up everything after...
one thing i learned a long time ago? anything with vaseline on it is easy to clean up
I know it's sickening, especially when you got three kids and a dog running around.
quote:Your a very strange man, Tax!!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Nice one rat I agree with the laundry senario for sure. Been there done that. But I like painting, I get on stints where I just paint stuff to be painting it. told the wife the other night that we needed a new color in the living room, and since the walls connect to the kitchen and the entry-way we might as well get those too.
quote:Why don't you put some vasiline on it?????
Originally posted by glassman:
don't forget: throwing a red sweatshirt into the laudry works just as well as shrinking a sweater..
and it's usually rememebered MUCH longer...
quote:That's just it. It doesn't make sense. Defies the normal reaction to market pressure.
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
this may be silly question but can anyone explain why the pps doesn't go up when there are 12,000 buys, but itseems to dip down when there are only a few sells?
quote:Sigh. . . .
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
Lucky I'm not having that kind of trouble.
quote:who files the NOBO report(s)? the borkers...
Originally posted by SherriT:
I think it is simply incredible that we are 1 1/2 hours away from the NOBO time, and the price isn't as high as it was when the darn thing was announced??? I at least thought we would be back near that 1.60ish high. Thoughts?
quote:Just a joke B... getting bored with my paperwork and the lack of action on the ticker.
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
quote:Sigh. . . .
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
Lucky I'm not having that kind of trouble.
quote:Well, so long as its only a lack of ticker action which bores you!
Originally posted by dog:
quote:Just a joke B... getting bored with my paperwork and the lack of action on the ticker.
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
quote:Sigh. . . .
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
Lucky I'm not having that kind of trouble.
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
quote:Sigh. . . .
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
Lucky I'm not having that kind of trouble.
quote:The 100k of extra cash needed to invest in the first place....
Originally posted by luvforever:
Hey folks channel 9 here has a show on tv how to trade~lol~ how to learn to trade nd talk like you belong on walstreet~lol~ teach me to trade so I can make money they say no matter what the market is doing you can make over 30k a month LOL what am I missing??/
quote:Thats O.K.!!!!
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
quote:charts worthless?!!!
Originally posted by SherriT:
Hopefully a PR will make your charts worthless....
quote:lmao~~
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Thats O.K.!!!!
Originally posted by dog:
Brilliant. Do women use the same technique with sex? Just a question.
They may act all excited to do it, do a terrible job, and hope you never ask for it again.
Thats a good girl!!!
quote:Didn't you ask me a few hours ago... Why the big crash??
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
charts look ugly..
Stochastic entering overbought! -with no price movement and with the money flow against the ceiling!!
Why do I even look at my charts!!!
I swear I can hear MM's laughing ~
quote:I have to say I am also somewhat skeptical when I read the past headlines. I have seen that type of PR before from a CEO and it is not very inspiring. You just have to put a date on your patience and stick to it.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
This is an excellent recap on past PRs put out that make mention of 10k or sb4 docs.
quote:lmao~~
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Thats O.K.!!!!
Originally posted by maumee river
quote:If it drops to .80 we should all mortgage the farm, boat, kids, wife/husband, etc...and buy buy buy. When the thing resets we can buy new and better ones.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
let's not get carried away ~
It drops to .80 I'm taking a roadtrip!
Bringing the Doberman with me too!!!
quote:If it drops to .80 we should all mortgage the farm, boat, kids, wife/husband, etc...and buy buy buy. When the thing resets we can buy new and better ones.
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chartwalker:
let's not get carried away ~
It drops to .80 I'm taking a roadtrip!
Bringing the Doberman with me too!!!
[/QUOTE
quote:I am sure we will all hear those words, but it won't be a wife or girlfriend... ding, dong... Honey its the IRS.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Some of us have a girlfriend... After that merger that might be a good thing other wise you might here those 3 horrible words......
"I want half"
quote:Ameritraders are still screwed though..
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:If it drops to .80 we should all mortgage the farm, boat, kids, wife/husband, etc...and buy buy buy. When the thing resets we can buy new and better ones.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
let's not get carried away ~
It drops to .80 I'm taking a roadtrip!
Bringing the Doberman with me too!!!
quote:The IRS ain't getting half...the IRS ain't getting one dime I can prevent them from getting
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:I am sure we will all hear those words, but it won't be a wife or girlfriend... ding, dong... Honey its the IRS.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Some of us have a girlfriend... After that merger that might be a good thing other wise you might here those 3 horrible words......
"I want half"
quote:I would have taken those words in a heartbeat...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Some of us have a girlfriend... After that merger that might be a good thing other wise you might here those 3 horrible words......
"I want half"
quote:Thats because the Devil is really good at hiding his identity...It takes time to realise that they are the devil incarnate...
Originally posted by SherriT:
Man, you are jaded! ...but there are some bloodsuckers out there... I never understood how you could love someone enough to marry them and pledge to share the rest of your days, and then come time for divorce act like they were the devil incarnate.
quote:Yeah, that's huge, but still no budge in b/a, what a joke...
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
70k+ buy at .99 wow
quote:True... just wanted to lighten the load a little on the chance we start trading in the am without news. Gonna pick it back up at a lower price by the looks of it.
Originally posted by glassman:
he should never have lowered his ask...
quote:Thanks for sharing that, Tax. If I should find myself making good returns on this or any other stock, I am going to pay those bad boys up front.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I got a quick story... There was "this guy" that I ran into at my favorite watering hole about 7 years ago while I was still single. We were both regulars but started talking stocks and before long we both figured out that we were "penny" traders". He was throwing some stocks out there and I was blowing them off left and right (I was young, buzzing a bit, and heck I really didn't know the guy.) One he was really addimant about and was pushing real hard sounded decent but I ended up ticking him off by the end of the long penny stock conversation.
I am not kidding... this little pub was on a busy street, and had a long window out front. Three weeks later this guy comes rolling up to the bar in a red convertible Ferrari. I was like "holy ****", mouth on the floor. Appearantly the stock hit and he made nearly 500K on that one trade.
Almost 6 months from that day I ran into this guy again. Ferrari was gone, and he was drinking at a bar known for 0.25 draws on the "special" night. I talked to him a bit and asked him how his trading was going. He said yeah I really am trying to get back into that. I didn't plan on the IRS taking as much as they did and I made a couple of bad trades and lost it all.
The guy couldn't even afford a computer and all his accounts had been closed.
I felt pretty sorry for him and gave him an old computer and monitor of mine, and took his lesson learned for free.
Do not forget capital gains, when playing the pennies people. They can hurt you worse than Capital Losses can help you.
quote:Hmmm, im curious. See if he pushes it over a buck and holds it. Relevance? Dunno....just curious.
Originally posted by dog:
ARCA back in the mix...
quote:why did you get banned?
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I'm unbanned! lol
quote:welcome back.
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I'm unbanned! lol
quote:Not really sure....webmaster said that someone with the same ISP (AOL) must have got banned so it blocked all aol IP addresses.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:why did you get banned?
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I'm unbanned! lol
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Wasn't there some rumor of this getting halted after close today? ;p
quote:hehehe
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Doesn't it get halted everyday after CLOSE?
quote:Maybe paranoia set in? I wonder if all Road runner customers were too?
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Not really sure....webmaster said that someone with the same ISP (AOL) must have got banned so it blocked all aol IP addresses.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:why did you get banned?
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I'm unbanned! lol
quote:Thats 10's job!!!
Originally posted by RichBy26:
Rufus and Ben are not picking up, has anyone gotten a hold of them lately???
quote:A little off that .80 mark.. jab -jab!
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
And there you have it Walker...
A buck or less... ( less being the more accurate)
Should be non eventfull tomorrow too..but ya never really know..
quote:ROFLMAO ~~~~~~`
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Thats 10's job!!!
Originally posted by RichBy26:
Rufus and Ben are not picking up, has anyone gotten a hold of them lately???
Hey 10!!
Go grab Rufas and Ben by the nutts!!!
) LOL...quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:ROFLMAO ~~~~~~`
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Thats 10's job!!!
Originally posted by RichBy26:
Rufus and Ben are not picking up, has anyone gotten a hold of them lately???
Hey 10!!
Go grab Rufas and Ben by the nutts!!!
quote:NO!!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I know the deal rat...
and yeah we've been there before....
Well, I have practice tonight I'll check back before bed, dang I hope we hear some news.....
quote:i doubt we get one, we really should though
Originally posted by RichBy26:
lets hope we get a PR so we don't have to test those waters...
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:NO!!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I know the deal rat...
and yeah we've been there before....
Well, I have practice tonight I'll check back before bed, dang I hope we hear some news.....
YOU STAY RIGHT HERE AND HELP ME F WITH 10!!
quote:I'm sure as hell not gunna grab them by the nutts!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...what is up with you always "goin'" there? (makes me wonder
v
quote:I think so too...
Originally posted by 10of13:
It'll be "rough" the next few trading days...IMO...
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:I think so too...
Originally posted by 10of13:
It'll be "rough" the next few trading days...IMO...
quote:A guess a bottle of wine is a good start.
Originally posted by dog:
Best idea... have dinner with someone you care about and open a bottle of wine... check in casually before trading day opens tomorrow and worry about it then.
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
be patient
quote:I think they are pullin on the wrong string again 10!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
NO!
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
be patient
quote:There's always something to keep folks hanging in there it seems.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yeah...but
quote:I'm not asking for the 10k, but a PR verifying the merger is done, and the S4 or whatever it is filed to show its done.
Originally posted by glassman:
here are the EXACT words:
The Official Merger date has been set for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at the close of the trading day. At that time the corporation will receive the Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO) from ADP Automatic Data Processing Inc. located at 51 Mercedes Way Edgewood, NY 11717 allowing the conclusion of the FHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K.
it does not and never did say a 10K would be filed today..
quote:No, you missed nada 3!!
Originally posted by betting babe:
guess i missed nada?
quote:YA!!!
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:There may be some nice 20% - 40% bounce plays in there on this one IMO.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yeah...but
I'm just not allowed to play it, at least that's what Ameritrade tells me.
quote:Annnnnnd, if he is a sociopath?
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
If he simply posted "." I can dig into that.
"." denotes the end of a sentence...it lets the reader know that the sentence is finished.
Well he's not talking about a sentence.
quote:wow, its funny if you bounce around the various boards you can watch this type of thing build.
Originally posted by dog:
Yeah... I know it's hype, but Chevy is a reasonable poster.
chevyrider
HSM Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 54
Just spoke to Ben and can't get to paltalk I'm tanks on on Paltalk but Ben said follow the News they are getting ready to launch. 4:25pm
quote:That was just plain bad, Maumee....
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:I think they are pullin on the wrong string again 10!!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
NO!
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
be patient
And I tole' you not to ware a skirt!!!
quote:Bah, ill send you an SMS man...get out of that hole.
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Catia I am sticking round work waiting in anticipation for news....Is this not happening tonight should I just go home?
quote:Or FHM delivery day
Originally posted by Vin:
This almost has the anticipation of election night...
quote:LOL, if this gets delayed past sept 30, im out!
Originally posted by Peaser:
A long and complicated filing that must come true before any merger takes place:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000045%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C07%255C12%255 C&symbol=CSHD
What are folks waiting/hoping for:
FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement. Completion of the Merger is subject to customary closing conditions, including, among other things, (i) absence of any order or injunction prohibiting the consummation of the Merger; (ii) the accuracy of the representations and warranties of the each party; and (iii) compliance of each party with its covenants.
If the newly hired auditor quits, run fer da hills IMO.
I remember when PLNI was promising audited financials last summer. I believe that they finally provided them a year later. Many excuses came up for over a year. Just hope that this doesn't take place here.
quote:Not worth the time punishment or effort. Rather just wait.
Originally posted by milliam:
I think the bashers are pushing the filing for today because we're all pretty sure it won't happen. They just up the anticipation by saying its going to happen and then some of the mindless ones start thinking its got to happen, and then when it doesn't...they sale, the pps tanks...you know the scenario.
Hey anyone out there a hack...I mean a hacker:
http://www.ic.adp.com/nobo.html :0
quote:Oh, the psychology of it all..
Originally posted by milliam:
I think the bashers are pushing the filing for today because we're all pretty sure it won't happen. They just up the anticipation by saying its going to happen and then some of the mindless ones start thinking its got to happen, and then when it doesn't...they sale, the pps tanks...you know the scenario.
quote:Peaser...I emailed the "new Auditor"...He claims that it will be done by the 30th...as long as there are no snags...he works for the state of Michigan...I'm hopin' that he will be on the "up and up"...
Originally posted by Peaser:
If the newly hired auditor quits, run fer da hills IMO. How long will the audit process take place?
quote:That is a big load of speculation right there. Show us proof!
Originally posted by Peaser:
Hoping the best for ya 10.
What intrigues me is why the other auditors actually quit.
It's all been speculation so far.
No shares held here.
quote:On May 18, 2006 Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP, the auditors, of The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (the "Registrant") resigned as the Registrant's independent auditors. Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP did not seek the Registrant's consent to its resignation. Therefore, Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP's decision to resign was not recommended or approved by the Registrant's Board of Directors.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:That is a big load of speculation right there. Show us proof!
Originally posted by Peaser:
Hoping the best for ya 10.
What intrigues me is why the other auditors actually quit.
It's all been speculation so far.
No shares held here.
quote:and I have a document filed with the SEC that saying,
What intrigues me is why the other auditors actually quit.
quote:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who to believe.
There are no disagreements between the Registrant and the prior appointed C.P.A. David S. Hall, P.C., located at 100 Crescent Court, suite 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, on any matters of accounting principals or practices, financial statement disclosure or auditing scope or procedure, which disagreement(s), if not resolved to the satisfaction of the former accountant would cause it to make reference to the subject matter of the disagreement(s) in connection with its reports.
quote:what was it Bush said? fishing in troubled waters?
Originally posted by Peaser:
It wouldn't be a lie bb.
amicable = peaceable
quote:True, that is one possibility to the auditor story. I only wish we all had a solid answer for it.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Nah Tax...
Peaser doesn't want our shares...he uses ameritrade...he can't buy them...
The thing with the "old" FHAL Accountants...that was with, and for FHAL...this is a new "group" of people in this now...I would assume that since FHAL is being "absorbed" they would get a new auditor...nothing seems questionable to me...at least...not about the auditor...
quote:ISON long term IMO
Originally posted by glassman:
we all look forward to your next winning pick
quote:You sir are laughable and you and your weak DD is looking pretty Ihub-ish. LOL
Could I be wrong? Sure could.
quote:Is that a fact?
Originally posted by Peaser:
So, then the auditor quit due to the company violating loan covenants.
They violated loan covenants, just one reason why I do not trust them. That is just my opinion though.
quote:so you re-quote rumors?
Originally posted by Peaser:
Taxback quoted it from the 8K I believe.
quote:. double post
Originally posted by Peaser:
So, then the auditor quit due to the company violating loan covenants.
They violated loan covenants, just one reason why I do not trust them. That is just my opinion though.
quote:That's all most anyone has to go on...Specualtion and the filings...nothing is for cetain...
Originally posted by Peaser:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13:
[qb] We are all speculating on the reasoning for the new auditor.
quote:Oh this was wasted on a basher I see. Never mind.
Originally posted by sceptor:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peaser:
[qb] So, then the auditor quit due to the company violating loan covenants.
They violated loan covenants, just one reason why I do not trust them. That is just my opinion though.
quote:The new auditor was wattles then cvsu's auditor. There is no speculation as to why.
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:That's all most anyone has to go on...Specualtion and the filings...nothing is for cetain...
Originally posted by Peaser:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13:
[qb] We are all speculating on the reasoning for the new auditor.
the auditor? I'm "comfortable" with...
quote:Are you saying that Taxback's info might be unreliable?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:so you re-quote rumors?
Originally posted by Peaser:
Taxback quoted it from the 8K I believe.
LOL
quote:actually i'm saying you are not even sure what you are posting... as you say clearly in your post...
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Are you saying that Taxback's info might be unreliable?
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:so you re-quote rumors?
Originally posted by Peaser:
Taxback quoted it from the 8K I believe.
LOL
quote:then post real DD... you posed questions, they are answered here in past posts and are answered again for you, tho the time seeems to be wasted...
Originally posted by Peaser:
I am here because I believe that some stocks aren't always what they seem to be.
quote:This is the history of CSHD, it needs to be discussed, and re-discussed.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
No I am sure they are saying that you need to do your own DD and don't rely on someone else to do it for you.
I am not posting a link to an 8K that was filed for some other company on this CSHD board.
You posted the link earlier I think that is enough unreliable information for one day.
quote:OH! A caped crusader! Trying to save the planet.
Originally posted by Peaser:
I am here because I believe that some stocks aren't always what they seem to be.
quote:I'm done Septor.
Originally posted by sceptor:
So why are you guys engaging him? they only exist because you respond.
I was just passing the time here seeing if anything hit the PR news wire. He was discredited long before I began responding anyway.
quote:left click the user name, then add user to your ignore list.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I've wasted one post and that's enough. You know the only thing that ihub has and we don't. The ignore button.
quote:The problem (at least within this forum) is that you (Peaser) are trying too hard to stir up some chit that was almost dried up and turned into fertilizer. You are almost to the point of being cavalier.
Originally posted by Peaser:
I am here because I believe that some stocks aren't always what they seem to be.
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Someone from Ihub posted this....
http://www.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/pub/corp/corpsearch?corpid=0558041
Not much info on it.
quote:Significance please
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dog covered this yesterday...Ihub is late...LOL
dog
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Interesting DD. New filing for AISS, in case noone has seen it yet. Note the agent: Maurice Bennett
and signed on 9-2-06.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Filings.asp?381934
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CSH D-Day?
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Someone from Ihub posted this....
http://www.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/pub/corp/corpsearch?corpid=0558041
Not much info on it.
)quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Sorry 10
That's what I love about this board
Ya'll are all over it.
Being new to this all I have learned so much from ya all!
Now if Rufi would just let the tiger out of the bag!
quote:Discussed and re-discussed with someone that does not own shares?
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:This is the history of CSHD, it needs to be discussed, and re-discussed.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
No I am sure they are saying that you need to do your own DD and don't rely on someone else to do it for you.
I am not posting a link to an 8K that was filed for some other company on this CSHD board.
You posted the link earlier I think that is enough unreliable information for one day.
quote:I see this thread is still a ***** session on each other. I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:OH! A caped crusader! Trying to save the planet.
Originally posted by Peaser:
I am here because I believe that some stocks aren't always what they seem to be.
Well don't worry we have done our own DD and are comfortable.
Thanks,
TB
quote:We'll miss you.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.
quote:Sure seems he is calling them out. I don't see how they can sit back and not answer. Interesting that he is calling out a broker and not the MM's.
Originally posted by glassman:
that's pretty much a poke in AMTDs eye...
i really don't know how they can ignore that statement....
quote:I am sure you will. I am sure alot of people dont read this continuous whining by a bunch of "alleged" in-the-know traders. Some of you sound like a bunch of cackling old broads.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:We'll miss you.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.
quote:i have been looking hard at the brokers for a little over year on the SHO thing...
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Sure seems he is calling them out. I don't see how they can sit back and not answer. Interesting that he is calling out a broker and not the MM's.
Originally posted by glassman:
that's pretty much a poke in AMTDs eye...
i really don't know how they can ignore that statement....
GLTA
Wally
quote:actually tylee? the "thing" appears to be settled.. Peaser asked questions, got answers, says he doesn't like them...which is fine... it's over now... he may have more questions and that's fine too.. people need to take a deep breath and not worry about how bad some of the other boards have become....
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:I am sure you will. I am sure alot of people dont read this continuous whining by a bunch of "alleged" in-the-know traders. Some of you sound like a bunch of cackling old broads.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:We'll miss you.
Originally posted by tyleemary:
I'll come back in a couple days and see if it is a stock thread again.
I am not mentioning any names ofcourse. Does not matter. I dont hang with any of you so I could care less.
quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
Hello all,
I have been watching this board for over a month now, and i hope as everyone here that we all make some good coin.
So a question for you good folks, i have the stock held with Ameritrade and wondering if it would be wise to transfer the security over to say etrade.
Spoke to etrade and they tell me it will take anywhere from 10-21 days.
Any suggestions?
quote:Not really a dumb question...I would assume that they can be traded the same as any other stock would be traded the day of the reset...
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?
quote:good question
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?
quote:The Pr has only been out for a little over an hour...anyone on here that uses them talk to them? I would consider it slanderous...BUT if Rufas says it I would HOPE that he can back up what he is saying...
Originally posted by Stefan:
A friend of mine talked to a manager at AMTD a few hours after the PR came out. The manager said they were aware of the PR and considered it slanderous. I don't know what, if any action will be taken, but what a nutty PR on the part of Rufus.
quote:All very good points, I am also a little unhappy that no PR came out discussing the events of what was supposed to happen today, and that everything went through! and where is the S-4...I thought its not officially done until that comes out
Originally posted by dog:
OK stock veterans... what do you think of this?
This is completely unheard of. Again... what is the point of this? Is Rufus really a champion for the little guy? Or is he pissed that they are keeping a lid on the stock price.
I really wish the PR addressed the business merger process itself. This seems like another "fluff" type of PR. It really doesn't let us know the nature of the business transaction.
Don't shoot me... but it feels somewhat opportunistic to use this info as fodder for a press release to appease us with a PR. It's nothing new... we figured this out last week.
I'm a little let down. I wanted to hear something about our company... not somebody elses. Clearly.. we have not seen the "short squeeze" in full yet. I have doubts about it myself due to this stocks performance EOD today.
I hope we see another PR before tomorrow.
The discussion of the hedge funds was interesting, but referenced before on this thread I believe.
I can't help but feel that Rufus is very upset about the PPS not rising. Upset why? 2 reasons...
1) Wants to keep us invested and protect us from selling under undue pressure.
2) Needs it to be higher for other financial reasons (some good, some bad).
Look... I'm not saying anything... good or bad. Just trying to understand the purpose of our CEO.
Is he calling for intervention here? Is he trying to force the naked shorters out in the open, and force them to cover (increasing the PPS)? If so... it's revolutionary. I only hope it's not just "smoke" to cover another agenda.
What do you think?
Again... just thinking out loud... I'm still long until something definitive tells me to get out.
quote:I'm not sure if I'm in agreement with this PR. Is TD Ameritrade buying through MM's or do they have their own capability to buy and sell. I use Scottrade so I know with them they place the order with a Market Maker just not sure how TDA does it.
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:i have been looking hard at the brokers for a little over year on the SHO thing...
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Sure seems he is calling them out. I don't see how they can sit back and not answer. Interesting that he is calling out a broker and not the MM's.
Originally posted by glassman:
that's pretty much a poke in AMTDs eye...
i really don't know how they can ignore that statement....
GLTA
Wally
it's not clear they are allowed to NS.... i suppose if they are making the market? then they are allowed...
i still don't have any proof, so Rufus is defeinitely taking a big leap here...
quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?
quote:yes, the NOBO should be a list of all the owners and how many they own...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...would this have anything to do with the NOBO that we were "waiting" to get as of the close today?
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:yes, the NOBO should be a list of all the owners and how many they own...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...would this have anything to do with the NOBO that we were "waiting" to get as of the close today?
thats' what a NOBO is...
that's why i said this just got more interesting..
i didn't expect him to have the actual data already tho....
and? i didn't pointhtis out before? but i THINK the NOBO is from trades alst Fri anyway....
three days to settle remember? AMTD wouldn't have been able to "fix" it this week anyway if i am correct...
quote:i haven't seen any restrictions concerning retail shares...
Originally posted by dollar13:
GLASS can you answer this question from the newbie trade2win
quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
A dumb question i guess, stocks that someone buys now v/s holding from pre-merger timeframe still hold good for the price reset?
quote:damn you only have 6 post and you already have 5 stars .
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
I agree with CAT too. It is not outright but implied IMO.
quote:LOL, I have my one that I'm holding tight on to...can I lose that one or is it a default...kinda like, Yea, I'm a loser! LOL
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:damn you only have 6 post and you already have 5 stars .
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
I agree with CAT too. It is not outright but implied IMO.
how do you that
LMAO
quote:my reputation precedes me i guess...lol
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:damn you only have 6 post and you already have 5 stars .
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
I agree with CAT too. It is not outright but implied IMO.
how do you that
LMAO
quote:yep
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
has anyone seen ihub?
quote:you're quick
Originally posted by cassity:
Somebody on here; I believe hit the nail on the head! Think about it, Rufus received the reports this evening showing that TDA has failure's to deliver(a lot of them). I personally don't think anyone is stupid enough to make a statement like that unless they have PROOF to back it up! Boys and girls, just sit back and enjoy the show! NOW, we go up up up. IMHO
quote:IMO I would try to see what you can do about moving them tomorrow.
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
It's crazy over their. I also have TDA I don't know if I'm to worried yet about my shares. I've also had them since like June 14th I believe. So they should be mine. Well before all the real craziness hit.
quote:... he has had a stroke.. hmmmm
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:you're quick
Originally posted by cassity:
Somebody on here; I believe hit the nail on the head! Think about it, Rufus received the reports this evening showing that TDA has failure's to deliver(a lot of them). I personally don't think anyone is stupid enough to make a statement like that unless they have PROOF to back it up! Boys and girls, just sit back and enjoy the show! NOW, we go up up up. IMHO
there is still the chance that Rufus and R P McMurphy went to the same doctor tho
every time i try to read anything at iHub? Firefox shuts down and i have to send a report... thi shappens over and over and...
quote:LOL! can you hear the stadium chanting now repo....
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Sooo... what the hell is going on here? I read that PR, has the CEO lost his mind? Or is this like PAIV, where David may actually beat Goliath? And you can't buy with AMTD?? AND AMTD IS GOING TO RELEASE A PR ON THIS?!?!?! No way. Either the cult is about to takeover, or they are about to slip into the nether-regions of insanity.
quote:I use Scottrade and I know that they will allow you to buy from a broker at the internet rate when they feel there is suscpious trading. This is different TDA will not allow buys period.
Originally posted by BooDog:
Scottrade will online restrict also, does that mean they are shorting? I called them when they did it with TCLL. They said they do it to protect the investors from suspicious activity or other reasons. Rufis has quite a battle. I wouldn't expect AMTD to say a word. That's what lawyers are for.
quote:ya...
Originally posted by dog:
It's on the PR Newswire site and search.
quote:I understand your reservations... but PR is much better than the one Our-Street used.
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:ya...
Originally posted by dog:
It's on the PR Newswire site and search.
but given past "events"? What DD has been conducted to verify? any? none?
quote:http://www.stockhouse.com/news/index.asp?exch=OTC:BB&SearchMonth=9&SearchDay=13& SearchYear=2006
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:ya...
Originally posted by dog:
It's on the PR Newswire site and search.
but given past "events"? What DD has been conducted to verify? any? none?
quote:Whoever the caller is he is kinda getting bullied a bit by the interviewer IMO. Nohing new, the radio guy wants to punch holes in the whole situation.
Originally posted by Market12:
Hi folks,
There is an indepth conversation going on right now at subpennyradio about CSHD. You might find it interesting. If you miss it the show replays at 12 midnight Eastern time.
http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
quote:i'm sorry to say this but the DJ here is not zackly the sharpest knife in the drawer...
Originally posted by Market12:
Hi folks,
There is an indepth conversation going on right now at subpennyradio about CSHD. You might find it interesting. If you miss it the show replays at 12 midnight Eastern time.
http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
quote:Option 1:
Originally posted by dollar13:
with this PR? , what we are expecting tom.. AM?
quote:imo? this is a train wreck in progress... not saying who "wins" or who is "right"...but that's a double-slingdown call-out like I've never seen since I began trading...
. . . and yet TD Ameritrade (and their subsidiaries) continue to sell shares they don't own, or have the ability to borrow. TD Ameritrade responds not by buying the stock out of the market, to cover their "Shorts," but by refusing their customers their legitimate right to buy more OTC Bulletin . . .
quote:the dj....
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
who are you refering to glass. Simon?
quote:He is more of a TA guy. His show is pretty good. From the Technical aspect. You are right that he isn't as up on all the DD on this company as many here.
Originally posted by glassman:
sub penny radio? he's way behingd the curve here...
i can't listen anymore... it's torture how far behind he is..
quote:or busy
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:the dj....
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
who are you refering to glass. Simon?
quote:you should call in then, and weigh in... or at least send an IM to make clear anything that's not being said.
Originally posted by glassman:
sub penny radio? he's way behind the curve here...
i can't listen anymore... it's torture how far behind he is..
quote:It's looking to be better than the one in Iraq
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Major $alls Rufas... I had to think about this one a bit. Pointing fingers at TDA will get you more than a squeeze trigger. Imagine all the other MM's when they smell blood in the water.
I also think it is difficult to make such an accusation without having the news hit CNBC or Bloomberg.
Rufas had better release the 10K to back his book value statements. IMO
Wow... I am in shock n awe.
quote:he (the DJ) admits he has not followed it closely...
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:you should call in then, and weigh in... or at least send an IM to make clear anything that's not being said.
Originally posted by glassman:
sub penny radio? he's way behind the curve here...
i can't listen anymore... it's torture how far behind he is..
quote:The 10K is due by the 30th. It can come out anytime before that. Once the 10K comes out then the SB4 is filed and the reset will happen. According to the filings.
Originally posted by dollar13:
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE 10K IS DUE SEPTEMBER 30 RIGHT, SO RUFUS MIGHT SEND IT THAT DAY.
THEN THE RESET PRICE?
quote:I barely follow this thread or this stock (mostly busy with SLJB) so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but when the price is reset, what/who will support the price at those high levels for us to be able to sell our shares?
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:The 10K is due by the 30th. It can come out anytime before that. Once the 10K comes out then the SB4 is filed and the reset will happen. According to the filings.
Originally posted by dollar13:
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE 10K IS DUE SEPTEMBER 30 RIGHT, SO RUFUS MIGHT SEND IT THAT DAY.
THEN THE RESET PRICE?
GLTA
Wally
quote:that's what the irrevocable trust is??
Originally posted by T e x:
lol, this caller saying "he doesn't own the bonds...he's hypothesizing off the bonds..."
wheeeeeee
quote:This question gets asked A LOT! The bottom line is, how are you able to sell any stock at any price? Because the value of the company supports it. If the 10k shows that the companys value supports the higher PPS then investors will pay that price. This is really no different than any other stock, erase the history and place your attention on the "first" open after the merger.
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:I barely follow this thread or this stock (mostly busy with SLJB) so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but when the price is reset, what/who will support the price at those high levels for us to be able to sell our shares?
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:The 10K is due by the 30th. It can come out anytime before that. Once the 10K comes out then the SB4 is filed and the reset will happen. According to the filings.
Originally posted by dollar13:
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE 10K IS DUE SEPTEMBER 30 RIGHT, SO RUFUS MIGHT SEND IT THAT DAY.
THEN THE RESET PRICE?
GLTA
Wally
That last PR seemed a bit "crazy" lol
quote:ok thanks
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:This question gets asked A LOT! The bottom line is, how are you able to sell any stock at any price? Because the value of the company supports it. If the 10k shows that the companys value supports the higher PPS then investors will pay that price. This is really no different than any other stock, erase the history and place your attention on the "first" open after the merger.
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:I barely follow this thread or this stock (mostly busy with SLJB) so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but when the price is reset, what/who will support the price at those high levels for us to be able to sell our shares?
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:The 10K is due by the 30th. It can come out anytime before that. Once the 10K comes out then the SB4 is filed and the reset will happen. According to the filings.
Originally posted by dollar13:
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE 10K IS DUE SEPTEMBER 30 RIGHT, SO RUFUS MIGHT SEND IT THAT DAY.
THEN THE RESET PRICE?
GLTA
Wally
That last PR seemed a bit "crazy" lol
If the 10k does not support the book value and PPS then it will drop.
quote:I was just joking
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
OK...I don't know if the PR is "crazy" or just a bold statement. Rufus basically said what we are all thinking, right? So what is the problem.
One thing nobody has mentioned is...could this be 1 of Rufus's earlier statements coming to fruition? He said he would give the shorts a chance to cover. If this doesn't get the shorts motivated to close their positions what will?
quote:In actuality there is no guarantee it will stay at the level of the reset. But according to DD that has been done on this thread, All he needs is one market makers that agrees to the reset but also agrees to support it. How long they support it is anyone's guess.
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:I barely follow this thread or this stock (mostly busy with SLJB) so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but when the price is reset, what/who will support the price at those high levels for us to be able to sell our shares?
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:The 10K is due by the 30th. It can come out anytime before that. Once the 10K comes out then the SB4 is filed and the reset will happen. According to the filings.
Originally posted by dollar13:
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE 10K IS DUE SEPTEMBER 30 RIGHT, SO RUFUS MIGHT SEND IT THAT DAY.
THEN THE RESET PRICE?
GLTA
Wally
That last PR seemed a bit "crazy" lol
quote:I think that about sums this up the best way possible.
Originally posted by dog:
Seriously, I think he has the goods on them with the NOBO list. You can't just walk onto the playground and hit one of the biggest bullies without knowing that you will knock him down. [/QB]
quote:yup, that's my take...
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wow...this is flippin funny as heck...
Tex a train wreck?
Yeah that would be one version...
I am simply stunned...not sure if I want to put me sell order in or hold even tighter...LOL
And figures that I won't be around for the open...
I wonder how hard Rufas is laughing right now?
quote:still an OB, right? to "brokers" it's still a "penny-play," right?
Originally posted by glassman:
buy-in provisions get suspended...
ths ain't a micro-penny anymore Tex..
quote:The only thing i can imagine becoming a problem is that AMTD could get so much bad press over this that it could seriously hurt them. With that in mind they may fight like a badger backed into a corner. But, then again, if they cant prove Rufus wrong then there wouldnt be much fight in them i suppose.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...at this point...
I really could care less about the reset...
(OK..maybe just a little)
But?
This is just too much..LOL
Looking forward to AMTD's response...if the have one other than
"Ummm, Ahhh, Well, We thought...ahhh,... No, we didn't...ummm... it's like this...Whaa whaa...MMMMOOOOMMMYYY!"
At this point Rufas defintely has Balls and he is also nuts...
(wait...those "words" are interchangeable balls=nuts)
LMAO....
quote:at this point? we have "assimilated"...resistance *is* futile
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...at this point...
I really could care less about the reset...
(OK..maybe just a little)
But?
This is just too much..LOL
Looking forward to AMTD's response...if the have one other than
"Ummm, Ahhh, Well, We thought...ahhh,... No, we didn't...ummm... it's like this...Whaa whaa...MMMMOOOOMMMYYY!"
At this point Rufas defintely has Balls and he is also nuts...
(wait...those "words" are interchangeable balls=nuts)
LMAO....
quote:No way. You asked a question....i came through with the goods.
Originally posted by luvforever:
hey mr i got it this time first ~lol~
quote:You kidding this is awesome news!!! not heavy in info but that was in the previous PR, I don't need more. I needed to hear it is "done".
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060913/nyw213.html?.v=2
Some reading material for ya'all.
Although its.....rather.....weak
quote:Bah, its late...cant we just share it? LOL
Originally posted by luvforever:
No!!! I said news out AGAIN?? yes u brought it here I give u that Im listening to the radio and saw it pop up...LOL
I just didnt think it would happen this early lol
quote:SB4 will be filed after the 10K not before. It was stated in the filings.
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Okay so the merger is complete, now where is the S4?
quote:heres a 5 star rate for you....
Originally posted by luvforever:
I don't need much credit you guys do such good dd I love it here! I just wanted to put something in for my share ~LOL~ u can give me a lil credit LOL
quote:According to the PR the other day the NOBO was the only thing holding the 10K... and the Merger Completion was dependent on it too.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tax? It said ALL that? I must have got a different copy...LOL
Just teasing...
quote:I can't...also? wouldn't be so quick to change...
Originally posted by 10of13:
OK..Tax...wasn't it you that said "we" needed a new thread?
What the title going to be?
Tex or Glass...can we just change the Title on this one?
quote:Yea, i agree. Something for the FHAL / CSHD vault.
Originally posted by T e x:
this is a great episode of subpenny...
archival quality
quote:hey dollar... i'm not trying to pump this... but according to that pr the "book value" is 41.93... and rufus made it clear he wants to go 2 times that... so we now went from 15 to 25 to 54 and now to 83.86 this is also listed in the pr just so you don't take my word for it, "A market analyst concludes this stock may be conservatively valuated at 2x its book value"
Originally posted by dollar13:
I guess tomorrow we'll see this ?
BID at 41.93
ASK at 41.93
or not yet?
quote:and, yet, again Rufus follows through (crazy or not)
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:According to the PR the other day the NOBO was the only thing holding the 10K... and the Merger Completion was dependent on it too.
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tax? It said ALL that? I must have got a different copy...LOL
Just teasing...
"The Official Merger date has been set for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at the close of the trading day. At that time the corporation will receive the Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO) from ADP Automatic Data Processing Inc. located at 51 Mercedes Way Edgewood, NY 11717 allowing the conclusion of the FHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K."
quote:10, even worse for me . . . I won't be around at all tomorrow - I can already anticipate the anxiety
Originally posted by 10of13:
And figures that I won't be around for the open...
quote:Vin, to make things worse - I went to the game
Originally posted by Vin:
totally off topic....
MT, what happened to your poor Pack last week?!
Vin says...Da Bears!
. . . thank God for alcohol. One redeeming factor is that I have the Bears' defense for my fantasy team Boy, talk about love-hate!
quote:1st PR...
Originally posted by betting babe:
wait- wheres the latest PR? is it listed? the merger?
quote:I can...anybody can
Originally posted by glassman:
Tex? are you messaging simon?
...she was great "grass-roots" trader personified, I thought.quote:but printing out would make it legal for court case? hrrm.. well, i'll go ahead and print out.. but i hope TDAM is not stupid enough to do something that stupid.. =\ i mean, especially with Rufas calling them out like that.. but hopefully we'll see above 2 bux tomorrow!
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah i was kinda thinkin not a bad thing to print out the account rite about now...
kinda like i did when FHAL changed to CSHD.
quote:Actually, it was dogs friend that sold shares today. I suspect he will be paying attention in the morning for an entry point.
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
This is crazy... I just wish the market was open for all of this... I might have been wheeled off on a stretcher from a heart attack at this point but it would have been worth it.
Chart... didn't you say a friend of yours sold 80K today. Hmmm wonder what he is thinking? Woopee!, or Awe Chit!
quote:Theres nothin like a snotty customer service rep discussing your money like its dirt. They are going to get sooooo much bad press for this IMO.
Originally posted by betting babe:
im looking it up. i dont know what SIPC is, but he said it is like FDIC and it says what they are liable for...
and that tomorrow i should call to speak to the reorg dept after 9am.
he was totally hostile.
and i am totally pizzzzzzzed.
quote:-nope, dog was saying that...
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
This is crazy... I just wish the market was open for all of this... I might have been wheeled off on a stretcher from a heart attack at this point but it would have been worth it.
Chart... didn't you say a friend of yours sold 80K today. Hmmm wonder what he is thinking? Woopee!, or Awe Chit!
quote:My 2 seconds in the "limelight!" lol ~
Originally posted by MTPromises:
good to hear from ya, Chart.
I did notice the reference to your video - nice.
quote:Wouldn't have caught that until tomorrow when I signed in. LMAO!
Originally posted by 10of13:
OMG...Look the thread Title was changed again...LOL...
CSHDmerger completed Rufus says "bite me" Ameritrade
quote:haha...just logged back in and saw that...how awesome is that...
Originally posted by 10of13:
OMG...Look the thread Title was changed again...LOL...
CSHDmerger completed Rufus says "bite me" Ameritrade
quote:Quesiton is this? If Rufus is confident that everything is going to go well and the reset will happen, why would he put himself in legal trouble and attack TDAmeritrade unless he had the evidence of his accusations right in front of him. Food for thought
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok, just spoke w a diff gent at TDAm. a more level headed one imo.
he said that the cust svc peeps received an internal memo re: the PR accusation about 45 minutes ago.
and that it said that the accusations were not true. (he said it, but in summary)
said that the company would be issuing a response in the morning.
that "their actions were in the best interests of their clients".
blahblah nice guy, said theyre as frustrated as us, since they are unaware of what the ^&%^#$& is going on.
me, i shall start early.
too late to change brokers, TDAm going down i dont see as an option. shake up - yeah, i see that.
~BB
quote:{BumP}
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Mr. XXXXXXXXX:
We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this. TD Ameritrade has chosen to restrict this security to closing transactions only. We feel this serves the best interests of both our company and our clients.
Per our Terms and Conditions, TD AMERITRADE and Ameritrade Clearing reserve the right to restrict trading in any security for any reason, including but not limited to, bankruptcy, reorganization or any other event.
You may view our Terms and Conditions at the following link:
http://www.tdameritrade.com/termsconditions.html
Sincerely,
Mindy R.
New Accounts, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
Original Message Excluded:
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quote:Peaser? Do you actually think that Ameritrade would "Admit" to it? Yes...someone is lying...but I am pretty sure that Rufas would not have made such a claim...without some type of "proof"....
Originally posted by Peaser:
Wanted to comment on CSHD PR accusing Ameritrade.
I called them at 7am this morning after I noticed the PR.
Ameritrade claims that it is completely not true, and they are aware of the PR.
Has anyone else got a different answer from them?
Someone is lying. Who's the culprit?
quote:Yes, but by who is the question.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Peaser... are you for real?
""IF"" it's true?...
"We're on the SHO list!"
IT'S SHORTED!!! We all KNOW IT!
quote:'Tis my guess as well.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
this may past CMKX and QBID as the cult of the century, or the winner of the century.
quote:Oh I see, you're just a basher, NOT looking for the truth.
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:'Tis my guess as well.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
this may past CMKX and QBID as the cult of the century, or the winner of the century.
I will not, and can not buy this. Wouldn't if I could. Just gotta find out what the deal is with Ameritrade.
I'll be calling the SEC as soon as their offices open today. Just got a recording when I called 5 minutes ago.
quote:But, Peaser is not interested in this stock. Peaser is only interested in stirring the pot. I doubt he is even an Ameritrade customer.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Peaser a basher?? Watch yourself... one of the best T/A guys around.
DRINK MORE KOOLAID.
quote:Just tuned in, Did I miss it?
Originally posted by luvforever:
check cnbc out its on tv about cshd !!!!!!!!
quote:Beautiful! what's being said?!!!
Originally posted by luvforever:
check cnbc out its on tv about cshd !!!!!!!!
quote:Maybe CAT!!!
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:But, Peaser is not interested in this stock. Peaser is only interested in stirring the pot. I doubt he is even an Ameritrade customer.
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Peaser a basher?? Watch yourself... one of the best T/A guys around.
DRINK MORE KOOLAID.
Sounds like ya'all have your own cult eh?
quote:Agreed, i definately do not treat my other penny plays like this. That i can assure you.
Originally posted by Peaser:
I was originally positive on this stock, that is, until I dug up a little dirt on this.
Granted, most penny stock companies have dirt, which is why IMO holding any one for a long-term period is usually the wrong decision to make.
Very few penny stocks are completely clean.
quote:You just drank the tainted water that we were told not to drink without boiling. Thank you work for telling us this after everyone has had thier morning coffee.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Annnnnyway, someone has some biiiiig 'splainin to do today. I'll be honest, Rufus has me a bit nervous here. AMTD will surely come out with all guns blazin. I really do think, if these claims against them are completely true, that CSHD is actually helping them out by spelling things out for them.
Its a bold move, thats for sure. This will be much more exciting than a battle with the little Timmy Miles.
And good morning. Dealing with a HEAVY flu or something this morning. Such horrible timing.
quote:Yea, i slept pretty well. A nyquil induced slumber though....im a little under the weather heh. Its going to take a lot of excitement to keep me from dozing today though.
Originally posted by luvforever:
Mr. Cat did ya get some sleep? Glta
quote:Yea, i got the call about the water yesterday. I knew nothing about the water problem, i hope this isnt related. Dog, did you hear about the water warning in Novi?
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:You just drank the tainted water that we were told not to drink without boiling. Thank you work for telling us this after everyone has had thier morning coffee.
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Annnnnyway, someone has some biiiiig 'splainin to do today. I'll be honest, Rufus has me a bit nervous here. AMTD will surely come out with all guns blazin. I really do think, if these claims against them are completely true, that CSHD is actually helping them out by spelling things out for them.
Its a bold move, thats for sure. This will be much more exciting than a battle with the little Timmy Miles.
And good morning. Dealing with a HEAVY flu or something this morning. Such horrible timing.
quote:review june/july threads
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Originally posted by Peaser:
I was originally positive on this stock, that is, until I dug up a little dirt on this.
"What dirt" may I ask?...
quote:Yeah, I did a VERY detailed DD and used the two links that Rufus used in his PR, wonder if that's where he just them from!
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey walker!!!!
Listening to that Darkside link...
Dudes pretty sharp!!
quote:Now Class!!!
Originally posted by golfman:
What's all the talk with this stock? Sounds like MLON when they once said $1.00 buyout offer is in the works. Yeah sure for a .00001 cent stock.
You guys fall for everything. If it sounds to good to be true in pennyland, it is.
quote:Yeah that is a good listen. last nights penny stock radio, or should I say CSHD radio was just as good.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey walker!!!!
Listening to that Darkside link...
Dudes pretty sharp!!
quote:*raises hand*
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Now Class!!!
Originally posted by golfman:
What's all the talk with this stock? Sounds like MLON when they once said $1.00 buyout offer is in the works. Yeah sure for a .00001 cent stock.
You guys fall for everything. If it sounds to good to be true in pennyland, it is.
Is this an example of being pesimistic, or is it really just Bashing??
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
quote:Well, i hope for your sake it gives a warning first if it does run. So far it doesnt look like much in pre-market
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Mr. CATIAEngineer
I am in NOVI. All things are fine. I sold the 70k yesterday and dont know what to make of this craziness. L2 not much higher. If it runs I'll buy. If its slow I'll wait for the dip to buy. This is tough right now!
quote:Well Mr Rat. I see that as not using the noggin and talkin nasties just to get attention. I sometimes call it bashin.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
OK Cat!!!
You may answer
.
quote:I liked the part of the PR where he confirmed our shares being worth $41 !!!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
That last PR just told me that rufus is for real...
That is the biggest thing I got out of that PR...
The second thing was that I will NEVER have an account at TDA!! What's to stop them from doing this with any stock?! I lost all respect for them.
quote:Don't need charts, charts are for flipping. And I'm soooo long in this! ha ha ~
Originally posted by luvforever:
Chart what do u see ???? interesting?
quote:1.13 and 1.17
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart just curious isn't 1.07 our first res level?
quote:I think this was Rufus' plan all along. If you will remember, he was adamant about people getting their stock certificates. I thought that was weird at the time because I flipped right after the symbol change with no problem at all (I use Scottrade). He kept saying this over and over. Do you suppose he knew it would come to this?
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
"Some of TD Ameritrade's clients are already requesting their stock certificates in fear that TD Ameritrade may go under. They are moving their shares to other trading houses that they believe to be less likely to short this stock."
I think this thing is worth GOLD and it isn't going to crash, but if it dips, I'd LOVE to BUY MORE!
Rufus "trapped" their azz ~
JMO!
quote:Translation: They are covering their A$$!
Originally posted by Peaser:
Ameritrade is dealing with the issue currently I am told.
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
quote:Wow... you are trying to pick fights now? I thought we were playing nice. The post from SherriT was obviously sarchasm.
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
The phone operators are a serperate dept within TDA.
quote:Sorry, Peas, I was being silly....
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
The phone operators are a serperate dept within TDA.
quote:Which happens to come naturally for Sherri.
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Sorry, Peas, I was being silly....
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
The phone operators are a serperate dept within TDA.
quote:So what are you trying to say? I'm a haven for one-liners?
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Which happens to come naturally for Sherri.
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Sorry, Peas, I was being silly....
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
The phone operators are a serperate dept within TDA.
I went from being, what was it Portman, "shrewd", to being a goofball? (I'm picking again in case it is taken otherwise...)
quote:Dog: LOL...that is beautiful.
Originally posted by dog:
Insanity and genius are cousins. That's why you don't date your cousin. [/QB]
quote:no, millions have to be covered! Read the PR
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
if this sale goes thru then has ameritrade covered their short position? Then is sqeeze over?
quote:Yep, but AMTD can't go short within the firm, but remember, they have a relationship with NITE, who could help them out.
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Not true, the TDAmeritrade Brokers cover the buying and selling.
Originally posted by SherriT:
Ameritrade is so busy handling phone calls, they don't have time to buy the shares to cover their shorts.
The phone operators are a serperate dept within TDA.
quote:I am about as newbie as you can get...and if you knew me better, you would know I am as much about helping others as I am about helping myself. No need to call someone dumb - if they are (and I am not saying it), it is obvious.
Originally posted by bigstocks:
No biggie sherri, just wanted to clarify for any newbies
No you're saying newbies are dumb.
quote:I'll take that bet... Not going to happen!
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Looks like sells happened for someone! If this falls below 1.01 its going down like a rock!
quote:Sarcasm after my own heart!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Not even a national news story. It's like... "Ho humm, yep small business getting screwed again. No biggie.
Quick! Someone get a reporter down to the zoo. the Panda is having a baby!"
quote:Haha, or me on the PGPM board!
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Yeah, folks on the QBID thread didn't care for me either.
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Lol, no I wasnt saying you were. I meant the Peas. Everyone I think knew you were being sarcastic. I just dont like it when people come on boards say they dug up dirt and are gonna be the protector. Thats all.
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:Haha, or me on the PGPM board!
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Yeah, folks on the QBID thread didn't care for me either.
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Lol, no I wasnt saying you were. I meant the Peas. Everyone I think knew you were being sarcastic. I just dont like it when people come on boards say they dug up dirt and are gonna be the protector. Thats all.
I couldn't imagine why.....
PEASER IS GOD.
quote:Peas did some kick _____ DD on the XKEM thread, if I recall correctly....
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:I like you Peaser...
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:Yeah, folks on the QBID thread didn't care for me either.
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Lol, no I wasnt saying you were. I meant the Peas. Everyone I think knew you were being sarcastic. I just dont like it when people come on boards say they dug up dirt and are gonna be the protector. Thats all.
(Yeah I know "big flippin' deal"!)
quote:Superbly conniving...can't believe you aren't a woman!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I have done my civic duty... There may be some National news now. Can you believe all of these national news services have editors with public email addresses... {grin}
quote:-no one "bought it?
Originally posted by RichBy26:
mine showed sold???
quote:Agreed! Remember...IF the reset happenned now at $50.00 the shorts (possibly 60,000,000 share) would be clammering to cover at 50.00, 60.00, 75.00 driving the price higher and higher until they covered. I thought I saw the price of $41.00 but also say 2 times book ($82.00)??? Ok, $82.00, 90.00, 100.00 PPS...Think about it. THEN WE WOULD MAKE THE NEWS along with the Panda and Condi's boytoy
Originally posted by cool AZ:
I may give some shares up at 80, but not many ... will give up more at 100 and will carry the some until 200 .... sound a little to optimistic? ... I remember all the talk awhile
ago about being able to hold 15!
Rufus hasn't let all the cats out of the bag yet! It's just his style! I'm telling you, this man shoots pool! ... just setting up his next shot!
quote:You sure dude!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
cool, that was our bottom...
Nailed another one!
quote:Already there I thought!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I just have a hunch but I think we will see some national attention on this one. hunch... Ha ha LOL.
quote:Nope, not me...
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Already there I thought!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I just have a hunch but I think we will see some national attention on this one. hunch... Ha ha LOL.
wasn't it SherriT that saw something on CNBC?
quote:Oh really? could be... I have sent out so many emails in the last 20 minutes I don't know right from left.
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Already there I thought!
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I just have a hunch but I think we will see some national attention on this one. hunch... Ha ha LOL.
wasn't it SherriT that saw something on CNBC?
quote:YUP!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Not sure that it would be in Ameritrade's best intrest to respond...
There are still PLENTY of their clients that haven't heard this news...who pays attention to a penny stock? they respond and not only do their clients get in an uproar and leave, but then their stock falls AND people will start buying CSHD...and then AMTD WON'T be able to cover...
If they do it won't be until close on Friday...IMO
As with everything...time will tell...
quote:Well, what sucks is the scanner only goes to the changing of the ticker symbol.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Walker !!1
Does any of your canned levels line up with the Cave Man ones???
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Morning Bell? Hmm yep I sent them an email. Closing Bell too!
quote:ROFL. I am a God Fearing man.
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:You sure dude!!
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
cool, that was our bottom...
Nailed another one!
Minor support 1.00
then .96
major .925
Resistance 1.09 then 1.13+
Get past 1.13, and we may be on to sumpthin...
Also, this is still in a trading range..I don't think that it will do much until TDAm responds..
The fact that they haven't responded yet,tells me that the lawyers are bangen there heads about it still..
A response will come for sure IMO
What it is will determin the breakout direction..
This could be ugly as hell if Rufas went over the line..
Watchen and prayen...and I'm not a God fearin' kinda guy!!
GL
P.S.
Peaser !!
You mean man!!!
quote:The thing abot that is, I don't think they have a choice!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Not sure that it would be in Ameritrade's best intrest to respond...
quote:It depends on what your definition of is is. ROFL.
Originally posted by maumee:
If TDAm does respond, they better hire Bill Clintons speach writer...sumpthin like
" At not time, Did we have sex with CSHD" LOL
quote:funny as heck ~
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:The thing abot that is, I don't think they have a choice!!
Originally posted by 10of13:
Not sure that it would be in Ameritrade's best intrest to respond...
If they just blow it off, that would also be interprated as a foul!!!
If Rufas was wrong, it was pure slander..
If TDAm does'nt call im out, they got caught with there hand in the cookie jar..
If TDAm does respond, they better hire Bill Clintons speach writer...sumpthin like
" At not time, Did we have sex with CSHD" LOL