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NoWhen, you know it. I keep thinking of the best for the stockholder stuff, for me it doesn't include being restricted, but i'm still here.
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DIG, not much more needs to be said unless a new PR is released or until after the 8-K hits (on or before 15 May 06).

Though I am at a loss why Purl Gurl still offers "DD" and "critical analysis" on a stock she has already branded a "pump and dump scheme".

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Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
I did not write this stock is a pump and dump but will do so now. I wrote many known pump sites are pumping this stock and many in this thread are very clearly pumping this stock. I also wrote behavior of management is typical of a pump and dump scheme. Many warning signs are apparent and many ignored those warnings.

I now write this is a pump and dump stock being confirmed today by pr news. Not only did management of this company initiate this panic selling, they also added confusion and fear with conflicting news; they screwed up.

Bottom line is management, through their written statements, have made it clear their intent is to drive share price up and this is their only concern. This confirms a pump and dump scheme.

Oh yeah...Karma...nevermind.
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Purl you got a couple of extra tabs to go around.
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LOL Westcott...

We are truly cared about. Me, you, DIG, all of us!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to drive out to a remote area and offer to mow some strangers yards.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Doniboy writes,

"All the bashing that went on here over the past few
days seems to have gone away and I see some people
discussing some real issues."

The pumpers will vanish, as well.

Discussing real issues is what Allstocks is all
about. Discussion benefits all.

My opinion is Allstocks makes more money for people
than most stock discussion boards. The reason for
this is there is a group here who insist on good
information, facts, knowledge and reliable opinion.
We do not tolerate pumping nor bashing.

Many here have decades worth of experience. Their
opinions are money in the bank, or money not lost.
I greatly value opinions of the good people here
but more value discussion. Many of my decisions
are based on what others have to say.

Most of us are able to spot, right off, a good
deal, a bad deal, a maybe deal, just as we are
able to spot, right off, pumpers and bashers.

There are pumpers around. Not very many bashers.

Patterns of behavior are very important. Over
years, you learn what "patterns" mean. In time,
you are able to spot and predict patterns, able
to make decent predictions based on the past.

Successfully working the markets requires very
extreme in-depth knowledge and experience. Often
the least noticed tiny clue, is the most important.

You have to be very anal retentive, very picky,
even very annoying, to succeed at this.

The most critical factor is to never allow your
emotions to become involved in decisions. Your
emotions will lead you to loss, always.

This is a cut-throat business requiring a cool,
calm and cold calculating attitude. We do not
like pumpers, we do not like bashers, we do not
like those taking advantage of others.

We also acknowledge when we make profits, we do
so by taking money away from others. However,
we take their money fair and square; no tricks.

When we lose, others take our money, hopefully
fair and square and not by our foolish behavior.

Playing it fair and square oftens lands me in
a lot trouble with others! A majority of traders,
today, are cheats and con artists. They do not
like those who play it fair and square.

Purl Gurl

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Not bad fer a Girl! Who just happens to be a Whale....Who just happens to be a Professor...

Nice Hand with the incorgibles in class...

Arrggggg!!! Back to Sea! To many Land Lubbers acting like School Girls! AVAST AND PREPARE THEIR IS HEAVY WEATHER BUILDING!

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A BS degree and going for PHD (Piling Higher and Deeper).
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This has all been very educational, but I would still rather have solid facts and evidence as to what is going on. After I levitate to a higher pps i'll have plenty of time to transmeditate into the stratosphere of the higher penny trader realm.
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Watch it, Dustoff! I might smack you with a
heavy weight flipper or swallow you whole!

Hmm.. wait.. that last part, uh, well...

Yeah, stormy waters ahead. I am very anxious
to learn how this one will play out. I have
my personal projections and wish to discover
if I am calling this right, calling it wrong,
or something between.

Only projection I will share is if stock in
NDOL becomes restricted, holders are done for.
However, there is nothing I can find which
hints at restricted stock.

I suggest you lash yourself to mainstay so
you will not be tempted into the waters by
those lovely voices of bare breasted sirens!


Purl Gurl

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quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:


Arrggggg!!! Back to Sea! To many Land Lubbers acting like School Girls! AVAST AND PREPARE THEIR IS HEAVY WEATHER BUILDING!

Holy Smokes Mr. Roarke! Grab Tatoo and be gone!!!

Wait!!!! Not the ship....... Da Plane Boss, Da Plane!

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Purl thanks, it's turning around.

However, there is nothing I can find which
hints at restricted stock.

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westcott, OK i'll wait for the PR or 8K.
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NDOL is looking sad. Down 12% so far today. Are insiders cashing out and chuckling along the way to the bank, or will this turkey fly? So far I'm down 26%.
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Purl ,can you please explain to me (i am new at this ) what the netherlands has to do with this ?
Thanks ZDOG

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Hey everyone, did I read somewhere that we are expecting a new PR to clarify some facts, and is that PR today?
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tomzdog asks,

"can you please explain to me... what the
netherlands has to do with this?"

I am not certain this has anything to do with
NDOL stock.

I read in an article, written by another involved
in Eastern European Studies, North-West is not
just one company but a collection of companies
with each "working" in different geographic
regions; Russia, East Europe and such.

Each company has a specific name. One of these
companies is "registered" through Geneva which
leads to my "Netherlands" comment.

My prior discussion is about what rules and laws
will apply to this NDOL / North-West deal. NDOL
falls under SEC jurisdiction providing some safety
for traders, not much, but some. North-West, almost
nothing is known about this company. None know
what rules and laws will apply. If this deal
goes through under Russian rules, I would be a
bit uncomfortable about this. East European rules,
well, not sure; some have good rules, others not.

Should this deal fall under "Geneva" based rules
there is more safety for traders because rules
and laws in the "Netherlands" region are more
Western, more strict leading to greater safety
for those vested.

American companies, under the SEC, are less likely
to engage in financial fraud. Note my comment is
"less likely" only. Under Russian rules, I am
not so sure much safety is afforded. I am not
an expert on Russian laws. However, we do know
there is a lot of corruption and graft going on
in Russia, as in Mexico, The Bermuda Islands
and many other places. America is not free from
this. All regions are a risk for illegal acts.

During risk assessment, applicable laws are an
important part. I would ask, "How likely is it
a company can get away with financial fraud?"

In America, less likely. In Russia, more likely.
In Mexico, highly likely. In The Bermuda Islands,
absolute guarantee of financial crimes.

What rules will apply are as important as what
oil fields will be worked, what oil fields will
still belong to investors, what oil fields will
be added to this buy / merger deal.

Worst case, Russian rules will apply which tells
us chances are good for corruption or government
take-over of North-West.

Similar to this, worst case oil fields is
North-West will assume ownership of productive
fields and this new company will end up with
the least productive.

Note, those are worst case examples. I am not
writing this will happen. This is an example
of a part of risk assessment.

Details are critical. There is an almost total
lack of details and information which is being
reflected by falling prices; traders are unsure.

Prior to current time, shares prices were driven
purely by speculation and by pump & dump activity.
Nothing wrong with making money on speculation
as long as you keep in mind, you can lose it all.

Today's prices are a better reflection of reality,
a reflection of serious minded traders who are
setting realistic prices, albeit still somewhat
inflated prices.

To close, my comment about the Netherlands is
simply speculation on what rules will apply,
or not apply; we still do not know.

Rules govern course of action.


Purl Gurl

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Good lord purl, im so damn sick of scrolling through your bs posts. We get it. thanks for coming out.
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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
tomzdog asks,

"can you please explain to me... what the
netherlands has to do with this?"

I am not certain this has anything to do with
NDOL stock.

I read in an article, written by another involved
in Eastern European Studies, North-West is not
just one company but a collection of companies
with each "working" in different geographic
regions; Russia, East Europe and such.

Each company has a specific name. One of these
companies is "registered" through Geneva which
leads to my "Netherlands" comment.

Purl Gurl

Don't make it sound so cryptic. One can simply go to North West Oil's website and discern all of the above. North West Oil Group

Oh...and speaking of Karma. I was rather impressed with the list of charitable activites in which North West Oil Group and their president has been involved. Not that this has anything to do with making a sound investment decision.

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I forgot to add, Tom, news indicates filing of
forms with the SEC. This suggests the NDOL new
company will still operate under SEC rules.

This is not guaranteed, however. NDOL may cease
to exist as an SEC ruled company.

Of concern to me, this company is pumping out too
much news which is lacking in details. What I read
is hype, what I see happening, is hype.

NDOL quick responses to share price changes
suggests to me their primary concern is just
such; share price. In turn, this suggests
insiders are protecting their vested interest
and could be or are dumping shares for profit.
Clearly they are keeping a very close eye on
share prices rather than tending to business.
That concerns me or would concern me if vested.

Most companies do not release news of this sort
until the ink is on the paper.

Releasing the type of news coming out of NDOL
is a really bad business practice. This calls
into question the credibility of management.


Purl Gurl

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Clearly they are keeping a very close eye on
share prices rather than tending to business.
That concerns me or would concern me if vested.

Purl Gurl

This is the kind of posting that goes beyond the pale. Do you have their offices bugged with video cameras? How do you know they are not tending to business?

We all welcome constructive analysis, but making wild claims about what management is doing behind closed doors is incredibly irresponsible.

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Its amazing how someone can say restricted with no facts to back it up and it sends the stock down.Who realy thinks this is restricted and why ? tell me please.Need some facts to back it up.
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Westcott, settle down and atleast think about Purls concerns......Risk management is the concideration of worst case scenerio....

Management overly concerned with share price is always a concern in the Pinks..

Remember that most Pinks are in the buisness of selling stock, not product...If you have been around you should know that by now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
tomzdog asks,

"can you please explain to me... what the
netherlands has to do with this?"

I am not certain this has anything to do with
NDOL stock.

I read in an article, written by another involved
in Eastern European Studies, North-West is not
just one company but a collection of companies
with each "working" in different geographic
regions; Russia, East Europe and such.

Each company has a specific name. One of these
companies is "registered" through Geneva which
leads to my "Netherlands" comment.

Purl Gurl

I cant find the original Netherlands comment, but I am from the Netherlands and Geneva is not in the Netherlands. But again I cant find the original post, so maybe it was mentioned in a different perspective.
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Correct Rusty. I should have worded my comments
better. This is why I am using "Netherlands Region."

Geneva is so broad based, so many laws are aimed
internationally, I am not sure if rules governing
this deal are country specific or regional.

A safe assumption is company registering through
Geneva will fall under Western style rules. What
specifics apply, a reader can discover through
research and reading.

My point is which rules, under which country or
region will apply is important.


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ndol facts here please and no BS!
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In the PR, it states, " the shareholders have voted in favor", would the shareholders have all the information to make a educated decision, and if the shares where going to be restricted, why would they vote in favor of the deal? Just wondering. Anyone's educated response is welcomed.

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cassity, it reads to me also like the voting has already taken place, by the majority shareholders. I don't know if that means that they are the only ones with a right to vote, but it sounds like it. I can't imagine why they would vote in favor of restricred shares unless they were sure it was going to mean a bigger payoff down the road, when they get through the waiting period. It would be nice to know this stuff right now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
I forgot to add, Tom, news indicates filing of
forms with the SEC. This suggests the NDOL new
company will still operate under SEC rules.

This is not guaranteed, however. NDOL may cease
to exist as an SEC ruled company.

Of concern to me, this company is pumping out too
much news which is lacking in details. What I read
is hype, what I see happening, is hype.

NDOL quick responses to share price changes
suggests to me their primary concern is just
such; share price. In turn, this suggests
insiders are protecting their vested interest
and could be or are dumping shares for profit.
Clearly they are keeping a very close eye on
share prices rather than tending to business.
That concerns me or would concern me if vested.

Most companies do not release news of this sort
until the ink is on the paper.

Releasing the type of news coming out of NDOL
is a really bad business practice. This calls
into question the credibility of management.


Purl Gurl

Why are they releasing news? Because we ask them. They have been called, emailed and seen in person by us with only one thing in our mind. Get a PR that would start a run for the stock.

Why this stock is bouncing up and down? Because no one trust them. This distrust is ridiculous and some are using it to buy low and sell high. Since this stock has become volatil after the big run last week, there is nothing beside insecurity that drives the up and down.

If people would calm down, and hold, this stock would be going up slowly and steadily. But no, the distrust of the "evil Rusian" for no reason and sell has this stock was going to crash :~\

So, my advice is to hold and wait for the merge to be complete before making speculation about being the deal of the century or the scame of the week. If all of us stay calm and hold, this stock will begin moving up has everyone is looking foward.

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I found this on an other forum, it is quite an intresting read about reverse mergers. This seems to be, at least in a way, what is happening with Nord at the moment.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/0,4621,300886,00.html

The last bit is abit worrying perhaps:
quote:
Check your greed. "Greed is Good"--the great rallying cry of the 1980s, popularized by the Hollywood oily takeover artist Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street--doesn't apply with a reverse merger. It's possible to structure a reverse merger so that at the end of the day, the public owns 2 percent of the company and the remaining 98 percent is controlled by the owners of the private company that acquired the shell. Unfortunately, there's almost no incentive for any other investors to become involved if the only people who truly benefit are the insiders. The lesson is, if you plan to involve the public with the intention of engaging in a truly symbiotic relationship, you simply must leave some value on the table.

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snort zzzzzzzzzz snort zzzzzzzzzzzz snort zzzzzzzzz I know I crashed.

[ May 10, 2006, 16:22: Message edited by: DIGDOUGH ]

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"The total merged enterprise value is currently estimated at USD $1.25 billion, representing approximately $2.20 per Nord Oil International shares"


what do they mean by that

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Go figure. What does anything mean right now?
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IO have read all the post from today and it's like the fairy tale chicken that screams the sky is falling. Nowhere in todays PR did I see any mention of restricted stock. If I missed please let me know. I think we need to just sit back and wait, unless you are the ones that are just trying to make a fast buck here and there. I feel that in the next PR we will have a clear view of whats going on (hopefully). I do not foresee them restricted all shares as that may cripple them. Sorry I don't want to write a novel as some other posters but that's my 3 cents worth. (For the record I own 50K shares and holding long and strong)

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Yes! Any company that knows you have trust in them will raise the stock slowely...

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quote:
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IO have read all the post from today and it's like the fairy tale chicken that screams the sky is falling. Nowhere in todays PR did I see any mention of restricted stock. If I missed please let me know. I think we need to just sit back and wait, unless you are the ones that are just trying to make a fast buck here and there. I feel that in the next PR we will have a clear view of whats going on (hopefully). I do not foresee them restricted all shares as that may cripple them. Sorry I don't want to write a novel as some other posters but that's my 3 cents worth. (For the record I own 50K shares and holding long and strong)

I agree,enough said.Tommorow should be better overall including PPS and all the BS post.
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I found this, what do you think?

Once a reverse merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, the "sex appeal," track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management’s ability to relate the company’s potential to investors are of key importance.Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock.

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