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This stock dropped fast and I think it will rise fast too. IF they do the PR's right we all will make plenty of cash on this one.
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I think in a month we are gonna be very happy with NDOL....just look long......and this is a great time to buy in,,,......maybe tomorrow mid day, becasue I have a feeling, monday is gonna be a market rally and with PR then, double wammi! NDOL will see the 70's again.....if no PR tomorrow, we will prob see the mid 50's, but if there were sellers, they came out today so maybe we will see green
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uptick, it ran 5 pointt on that weak PR, actually you could have bought NDOL at .68 EOD and sold at .755 at 10:00am after that PR.
I'll take you up on that bottle... I think Parkin learned his lesson and he will be much more timely on his PR's. He received alot of emails from pissed off shareholders today. That 8K is coming tomorrow!
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I talked to Parkin on the phone today b/c I was very concerned with the price of NDOL, he simply stated hold course you will be fine. That was a very calm, assertive, and most importantly confident reply to an upset investor. We WILL see good things to come, I am extremely confident is where this is going. Remember this is a multimillion billion dollar company now trading at .60? Give me a break. Guys this is the definition of undervalued, Im just glad I know about it. Don't speculate it just leads to dissapointment, just be patient and take as it comes. REMEMBER THIS: This should be done tomorrow. DONT BE DISSAPOINTED IF ITS NOT TOM AND IS MON, he does not promise anything. I suggust you just go play golf tomorrow and don't look at this and let your emotions get all tied up in it. Guys stay long and we make moolaaa!
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WELL WELL WELL ISN'T THIS A REAL NUT TO CRACK/////dont worry???? i got 40k in this and i,m averaged at .47 on over 70.000 shares!!!!! witchis not a fortune but it will be when the bird CROW.S!!!! good luck all!!!! i wish i had another 40k to stick in this but i'm too new to this to take the chance!!but i quess i did cause i put already 40k in this'''i'm disclosing 71500.00 shares today! and it should of been more if i sold on dips and gains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET'S GET THAT DAMN PR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Auburn writes,
"Remember this is a multimillion billion dollar company...."
That is not accurate.
NDOL is worth less than ten-million. The subsidairies of North-West, value is completely unknown.
As best, you could write NDOL is worth about ten-million dollars, to this date.
Purl Gurl
Last I checked any number greater than 2 is defined as multi so there is an 80% chance your wrong on that one. Also, if neither of us know how much North West is worth how can you speculate its not worth multimillions/billions? However unless oil drops to $0.01 a barrel this merged company with 200 million barrels of oil is a multimillion/billion dollar company. But maybe not, maybe we got this math thing all wrong, maybe your right... lol
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May 18, 2006 (Vickers Stock Research via COMTEX) -- Document Processing Date: May 17, 2006 Filer: RENDA, DOMENICA Relation: Stock Name: Nord Oil International Inc Stock CUSIP: 65557E109 Stock Symbol: NDOL Exchange: OTC Transaction date: April 27, 2006 Shares for sale: 1800000 Value held: $1260000
May 18, 2006 (Vickers Stock Research via COMTEX) -- Document Processing Date: May 17, 2006 Filer: GALLO, MICHELINE Relation: Stock Name: Nord Oil International Inc Stock CUSIP: 65557E109 Stock Symbol: NDOL Exchange: OTC Transaction date: April 24, 2006 Shares for sale: 700000 Value held: $490000
A broker friend told me about these earlier today and a poster on RB posted the above. I looked for any SEC filings dated today and there were none for Nord Oil International. There is one for Nord but it is not us. If these were sales they would be listed on SEC dated today. These are notifications of shares for sale which I would think they want to do pro merger or after 8K so they can sell at a higher price. JMO Brent
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"The total merged enterprise value is currently estimated at USD1.25bn, representing approximately USD2.20 per Nord Oil International share post-merger" From the May 11th 2006 Merger agreement.
Ok lets use the figures from the sentence from the PR above and only those to see where we get.
1.25 billion approx. value divided by $2.20 post merger value of shares equals approx. 568,181,818 shares.
"Under the terms of the agreement Nord Oil International will acquire by way of a reverse merger 100% of the outstanding shares of two divisions of the North-West Oil Group: North-West Oil Group-Saratov Ltd and Neftegazenergo Ltd."
So if we will own 41% of the shares that would be 232,954,545 approximate shares. North West would own 59% of the shares that would be 335,227,272 approximate shares.
I know some people have posted that outstanding shares would be approximately 600 million shares. 568 million shares are not that far from 600 million shares and would meet the PR figures without using figures that are not included in the PR. Updated/Verified 4-6-06 O/S - 243 million (180 million +Recent amounts as indicted in latest filing for "Employee Stock Option Plan" are restricted)
If you took the present O/S shares pre merger for Nord Oil of 243 million and then did a 50/50 merger obviously you would have 486 million shares if Nord and NorthWest two divisions were equal. So reducing Nord from 100% stand alone company to two merged companies becoming one then reducing by 9% the O/S for Nords share of the company from 50% x2(Nord +NorthWest) you would have a reduction by approximately 21,870,000 for a total of 221,130,000. So the 232,954,545 figure for 41% of the company is not far off from the approx. 221 million. Just my thoughts Blessings Brent
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bbramma, juggling numbers, testing numbers, comparing numbers for validity is to always be respected. You are commended for questioning validity of numbers. I encourage this, strongly.
There is a problem.
"The total merged enterprise value is currently estimated at USD1.25bn, representing approximately USD2.20 per...."
None can verify those numbers as accurate. None know the "estimation" method employed. None know if those numbers are factual.
Those numbers are questionable. NDOL has a market value of about ten-million. This leaves the two North West subsidiaries worth 1.24 billion.
I am highly skeptical. My best guess is these numbers being pumped out by NDOL are maximized and include _unproven_ reserves for both NDOL and North West. Recently, a disclosure about North West indicates less than a million barrels a year production. This is not consistent with a company with two subsidiaries worth over a billion dollars, in oil money.
Much of news and numbers released recently, are contradictory and inconsistent with normal expectations for estimates of value.
Mine is not a critique of your article. Quite the opposite. Respect is to be given to those willing to question numbers, to test numbers.
My comments are simply to be careful to test your base numbers for validity. This is, of course, not possible for now because there are no financial status reports available for the North West end of this.
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Hi Purl, I feel my headache is coming back, I better get another beer. Anyway I will agree with points you eluded to that investors determine the price of the stock. With that said I respectfully disagree that potential plays only a small part here. You are correct that only oil in the barrel counts, but NW is currently puttinging oil in the barrel and I fully expect that the number of barrels will increase exponentually in the next two years. I honestlly don't think that the folks that bought this at 1.40 are going to break even on the next PR, but I think long term this will be easily attained. Just like you I don't like holding pennies over the weekend, unless I fully expect a sharp climb on monday, but I am going to hold here. I always keep enough cash on hand to average down, and my loss will never exceed what I expect the next PR to generate percentage wise, this is my risk management. IMO I can't count mystery as a zero, there just seems to be to much future potential here, based on oil prices, the political developments in Russia, and blah, blah, blah. Larger oil companies trade in multiples this one trades in POSSIBLE divisables, I expect this to change once investor sentiment changes. Even though the larger companies can get there hands on larger reserves, if they are not Russian or partnered heavily with Russian firms, they are going see their piece of the pie dimish. I think every Russian oil company realizes that in order to turn the largest profits, they need to export their products, even the government realizes this. NWO seems to have already positioned themselves to start exporting. They are already capable of efficiently transporting their oil to St. Petersburg which as luck would have it contains a large port. Anyone that has ever spent some time on the Baltic Sea can atest to massive amount of Oil tankers sailing west through the waters, I can't say they came out of St. Pete, but odds are pretty good.
I think there is a fundlemental differance between the way you and I look at the future price of stocks, and I am pretty certain you don't have to suffer near the magnitude of loses that I do, but on the flip side turning a 60K profit this year is good for me. Would have been alot more, but the last two weeks have been beating me down. I doubt you would have invested in Delta airlines since at this time my children have more money than Delta, none the less it made me nearly 200%, I saw Delta in the .30s, and I knew that people would buy thinking they would get 5 bucks a share after the company came out of bankruptcy, Oh well they failed to realize the stock would probably dissolve. Fair and square right, I never posted anywhere, and I never pumped to anyone, I guaged the confidece in the stock. It is my belief that you can't base your opinion on a stock simply on present value, the single most important thing is investor sentiment, and confidence. IIIIFFFF confidence is won by NDOL this stock is in for a long trend upward.
Lastly as far as semantics go. I have to tell you I have seen this from you as well, we all do it. NDOL never stated they were selling oil for 510 dollars a barrel, they simply stated mainly. Mainly in no way shape of form means 100% it does not even 50%, it simple means the majority. This could simple mean 2% if everything else was one percent. I am not beating you down, it is just a point I would like to remind you of. I have learned alot because of you, not from you, but I have learned and this is always a plus. OK enough said. Take care of yourself and I hope I have not offended you, I don't think I have, you seem like a tough cookie, even though Dustoff seems to think you eat to many cookies.
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I think it's futile to talk about any kind of numbers till we see it in black and white. I could say I'm worth 1.2 Billion all day long till I have to so financial records to back it up. I'm hoping we all make money off this but I've said this before this stock will continue to tailspin till some good numbers come out and those thinking we'll see 1.50 plus PPS instantly is just in a dream world. But it seems if you're negative toward NORD you become an outcast. Gotta take the good with the bad...
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from nostars (thats me) it's just a guess but I would venture to say this won't get off the .70 to .80 and then the 1.00 mark wont be seen for at least 1 1/2 weeks to 2 weeks possibly more, because of the sell prices everyone has set. And thats when the numbers come out with a decent pr.
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quote:Originally posted by BooDog: from nostars (thats me) it's just a guess but I would venture to say this won't get off the .70 to .80 and then the 1.00 mark wont be seen for at least 1 1/2 weeks to 2 weeks possibly more, because of the sell prices everyone has set. And thats when the numbers come out with a decent pr.
O well then if thats true I have to wait a whole 2 weeks for a 10k profit.I guess I can wait.LOL It is tough sometimes not to be somewhat negative when you are down.I am in with 40,500 shares at average 77.9 pps. Happy NO,but why be negative or post negative post when we have no real negative news to post other then the 8k and PR releases are not posted yet.Iam tired of all the I called and emailed this and that and it did not happen or whatever post that I keep reading.Heck thats have the reason this is down and who know how much of it is true anyway.Facts and PR's thats what I want to see.So lets see a green positive day for once.
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lmao thanks uptick! nothing against NDOL but idcn is drawing some attention, shaky DD though
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Oil down a bit in pre-market... Over Sea's investments may be cooling..." Bear Sterns "
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"...you seem like a tough cookie, even though Dustoff seems to think you eat to many cookies."
I am a tough cookie because I am over-baked instead of half-baked! A little milk softens me up, though.
Finally, some reasonable and rational discussion. Upon finishing your article, I agree with your thoughts. I find no major points of disagreement.
Your dialog is refreshing, especially compared to the pump and dump scam artists working this thread who express vulgarities, claim me to be a paid basher, who threaten legal action, all to silence my voice. I suspect readers are now realizing those people are performing no favors, are serving only their own profit interests.
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If no PR today I think we will see a close around .50, good buying time? Who knows. I will not be adding anymore shares till I see the numbers from NWOG.....
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Would the person that has complained to Bob Frey that i'm talking about them, please PM me and explain the specifics.
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Purl, quit saying that oil isn't worth anything until it's in the barrel. Last I checked, the big oil companies are drilling for it too. No, it's noth worth $72/barrel while it's xxxx feet below the surface either, but saying it's worthless isn't the "honest, community promoting, etc..." purl we all have grown so FOND of. What's your motive here? If I think this stock is a pump and dump I stay away. I don't spend 6 hours a day thinking of a witty remark to every comment on the board. It is or it isn't, and we'll find out in the end. The commentary in the meantime is all heresay on both sides. Let people form their own opinion.
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