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and purl, it is normal we are not already at 2dollars now because this is pinks and some people are still afraid the deal with not go through..just watch for the pr tuesday or wednesday with the final offer and details that we need to vote etc...that day we go to 2 dollars... just stay tuned
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: I think its funny that everyone keeps defending Purl Gurl. Maybe she is your friend, and maybe she knows her stocks, I have no idea, but really...What would you guys say to a person who owns no shares of a stock, has never posted on the stocks thread for over 120 pages and then just shows up and says "This is probably a pump and dump, pigs get slaughtered"
You guys would call her a basher and you would be right.
Doniboy,
re: defending Purl.
the particular quote that i could not resist commenting on was the one that asked Purl:
"do you ever read PR's or do DD?".
the word that came to mind when i read this quote was (cue alanis):
irony
There are two reasons that this is a highly ironic statement.
The first is that anyone who has been around here for awhile, knows that Purl *always* does her DD. There is no way to try to quickly summarize evidence of this point over her 2-3 years of posting, so I won't attempt to try. if one were to attempt this, the ALMI thread would be a good place to start though.
The second reason is: in criticizing Purl for "not doing DD", the inability to accept potential criticism and/or alternate viewpoints of a stock one owns, is imho a "lack of DD" in and of itself. if you ask me, it's a dangerous road to go down to simply become a "cheerleader" for a stock and to not at least *consider* any alternate and potentially negative point of view. if you choose to ignore potential criticism: fine, no problem. but putting your head in the sand and not at least considering it in the equation, is risky imho.
if you look around at purl's posting history, you will find it littered with threads she has started where in the title is: "xxx stock - Pro / Con". note the "Con" part. purl has always been careful to include discussion of any potential negatives to stocks she likes, along with the cons; to give a balanced view. this is an approach that i like so much that i use it for my own threads as well.
it's also been made clear many a time in purl's posting history that she loves to see people make money, and hates to see people lose it - particulary if they lose it buying a stock she likes or has profiled.
no one is saying purl is "perfect". we ALL make mistakes, though only a small minority of posters here ever admit to them. purl has made mistakes, and i personally discuss my own investing mistakes on this board *all the time*. i don't always agree with purl either - for example i've discussed my own divergence with her viewpoint on CLSI and other stocks in several threads. there is value in give-and-take discussions and alternate viewpoints though, imho.
in considering the nature of what is "bashing", a thread on RVMN comes to mind. this is a stock i have been highly critical of for quite a long time, because management is ripping off shareholders, which really pisses me off. my own running commentary on RVMN is here:
am i "bashing" RVMN in this thread? i suppose you could call it that. but am i doing it to try to cause people to somehow lose money, or otherwise try to manipulate the stock price for my own benefit? of course not. quite the contrary, i HATE seeing people lose money to the RVMN absurdity, it really bugs me. i put my own posts out there as a warning to do research before they put their hard earned money on the table on a stock like RVMN. i've gotten a few PM's from RVMN supporters who are less than thrilled with me, not surprisingly. but - i've also gotten messages from others thanking me for posting about it and helping them to avoid a loss of money on RVMN. i've also pointed out potential negatives to other stocks like QBID and OCRI and MLON and MSEP when they were near highs, which many people didn't take too kindly to at the time. i didn't do it to be a "basher" - quite the contrary, i posted about these stocks because i hate to see people lose money.
anyway, i've rambled on and gone tangential as usual. however, i think crystallizing down to a summary is fairly easy in this case:
part of "DD" is considering potential negatives as well as positives to a stock you own.
i agree with Purl in that i have no idea what will happen with NDOL. but - the points she brought up in her 3:01am post have to be at least *considered* by any NDOL holder, even if you completely disagree with them.
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I've been reading posts on here for almost a year now, never participating but trying to learn what and how to trade. I still have a long way to go. I have always seen Purls name and read her posts as well as a few other people on here that I would trust with their stock picks. She isn't a basher she is probably just the most intelligent person here. Keep up the good work Purl!!
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Anyone defending her obiously is not in this stock.I guess nobody has seen this rise from the pennies.NOTHING,I MEAN NOTHING!! Has been bad about this stock except maybe a late PR,otherwise it has been aces.So get real
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Have to tell you....I feel so taken care of and fortunate now that at least a team of two posters have finally entered this thread to tell us all that we're on a sinking ship. Thank You God that some caring individuals are looking out for me and my money!!! And, thank you god, that these posters have not only warned me once, but they seem persistant to warn me about me and my money until I sell my shares and get out of this quick!
Ya know, and all throughout my life, I thought only my parents cared about me that much. Boy, was I wrong, it's my parents and a couple of total strangers!!
Blah, blah, blah with this johnny-come-lately BS. The pps is where its at because the deal is yet to be finalized and it's a pink.
Pay no attention to your new best friends here at NDOL that have cars with flames. They also have heads with horns.
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I think its funny that someone comes to the board and one of the first posts is basically a basher post. If anyone here saw that post on another stock that they were following they would immediately write that person off as a basher. Purl hasnt really posted much since last September. Alot of folks here have signed up since and dont have a clue as to who she is. I have heard some nice things about her but coming here after the price has hit an all time high is a little suspect in my book. Maybe she should have come in back when it was .40c and tried to give us her dd and that would have saved us. lol. Anyways, if you think she is a basher then so be it. IF you think she is trying to save us from being slaughtered so be it. If you have done YOUR dd then you know what your plan is and stick with it. Sometime next week we should know what the final deal is. Have a great weekend. TMAN...
-------------------- In the end, trust only yourself when trading stocks.
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Purl gurl be careful what you invest in you just might get burned. You can't even trust the ones you spent money on Fri. Thanks for the advice I can read. We'll take our chances already. Smart or not I think it's dumb that you pop in here all of a sudden after all is said and done and start trying to coach us now. Did one of your babies buy some stock here and it went down after wards and mommy's gonna see who did it? Happy trading, thanks for the advice. Goodbye.
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OK you better run along now JR. You might miss a lesson hanging around here.
quote:Originally posted by jgrecoconstr: I've been reading posts on here for almost a year now, never participating but trying to learn what and how to trade. I still have a long way to go. I have always seen Purls name and read her posts as well as a few other people on here that I would trust with their stock picks. She isn't a basher she is probably just the most intelligent person here. Keep up the good work Purl!!
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Bob Frey needs to address some issues with how this board functions. It takes 5 min just to negotiate a page, half the time. Every other website I use doesn't do that. I thas to be something on this site.
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If what purl gurl is saying were true it is involving some serious work by Nord mgmnt of playing us, with the news and phone calls and so on that has been done here. But whats wrong with oil having some value. If there is a profit?
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WrongJoe/Marc, Yes this is a big part of why the pps is only 60% of the buyout offer. Once more information becomes available, and the deal gets closer to completion with contingencies removed, the pps will increase dramatically. It would not surprise me to see another PR that either indicates that the offer price was negotiated a little higher or that Nord has agreed on terms and the deal is scheduled for completion in June or July.
Remember, that no one is gonna pay close to $2.17 right now because there is no profit motive to do so. Eventually, as the deal becomes a certainty, the pps will increase to just under the buyout price (around $2.00-$2.10+/-). The only reason that there is any activity in CHAR is because share buyers are hoping that the deal falls part or management finds a higher better price (doubtful given the circumstances and buyer), as the Lukoil buyout price is too low. Also, note that the deal is at $5.80, but no one is paying exactly $5.80 (about 4-5 cents below). Worse case scenario is that someone buying at $5.75 makes a nickle. There is no real risk.
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Purl Gurl is multi-talented, well educated, rock solid in her beliefs, and complex to the 10 power..
She is a lovely maturing adult woman and she plays a mean Chelo...
I have always considered her my friend, even though she may not realize that. She would never accept money or any compensation for " Bashing " a stock.
Good to see ya back KID! now back to War and enough Mush!!! LOL
BTW, would you whip up a potion or spell to git the Damn Sea lions back to Sea...Their in the river killing thousands of Spring run Chinook up here!!!
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hey forget that purl girl,she wasn't on this board the last month so just put her on ignore because i really don't need her advice...i know what i am doing here and my bank account tells me i am doing very well so purl please go and don't try to be the smart ass!
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this stock will reach 2 bucks when details are released.... it is normal we are not trading at 2 alraedy because we need more details this week..this is just going great and i am happy i bought more at the dip friday. GO NDOL will be a gapper monday
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$10 million---lol--thats a good one. This company has 15 million in proven oil resrves and 33 million in probable reserves with only 216 million outstanding shares(which most are restricted)Give me a break. This company is a steal at these levels--buy out or no buyout this stock is a winner. I started buying this stock at .07-.15 and I admit I've have sold some this week,,but when your holding a 20 bagger you have to take some profits. I have made enough to retire off this stock. But I'm still holding most of my shares. Sounds you like you have a big case of sour grapes just because you didn't buy in before all the news. But even at these levels there is a very good chance to make good money off this stock --thats why I'm still holding most of my shares.I think you joined this party to late--go bash some other stock--your advice is not needed here--if you are so smart you would have been buying this stock under a dollar --Bashing it now after it is up from the ten cent range is a joke. If you new about this management --you would know this stock is for real.
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Yeah, this buy-out simply does not make a cow lick of sense. Paying 500 million for company not worth 10 million, well something ain't quite right.
I cannot find anything which suggests Nord is worth more than they state in their filings.
Lots of projections on oil production but until the oil is in the barrel....
Funny, today a person asks how I found their balance sheet. My goodness, that person better slip on his pants, inside out before someone picks his pockets!
Wearing your pants inside out, I learned that down in a Mexican jail long ago, uh, well, boring story you don't want to read.
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Purl Gurl, there are some points in your statement worth noting, but you can't seriously say "but until the oil is in the barrel..."
And as to why it's not trading near $2, certainly an enlightened investor like yourself understands investment basics such as; time value of money, risk premiums, liquidity premiums, etc...
I personally sold some at $1.50 because at that point the best you can do is about 45% up. Certainly nothing wrong with that, but I think if the NDOL deal goes through, AURC will see much higher returns than that.
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it is just a bunch of idiots that are jealous we made a lot of bucks and this will even go higher..if this was a scam they would never be fully reporting...just wait for a detailed pr on tuesday or wednesday and then we see 2 dollars by the end of this week
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Look at Yahoo Financial massage board of gnbt. Only four or five persons involved in the discussion of the "scam". It is worth to read. My point is the strongest reason why this is not a scam is that "Stratton D. Stevens is a member of the Order of Canada. There have only been 5000 or so to receive the honor in the past 40 years. I highly doubt that he is involved in a penny stock pump and dump scam! "
"Hell, I can't even find gnbt"---NoW wrote
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Hey everybody I just want to thank everybody here for teaching me a lot over the last couple months. It has been very informative and lucrative playing NDOL. It's been great being in this thread with all of you, and this ride is not over yet. But In the hopes of trying to help out and finding new possible winners check out this thread here: http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/ t/021241.html I might be completely wrong but DD this one and check out the news- 10,000 barrels synthetic diesal per day Electricity Beginning filing Possible application to AMEX
This could be huge but dont take my word on it. Do some DD on it and/or just radar it. Just want to return the favor and try to make us all some money. JMHO GLTA
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first we will make a lot of bucks with ndol moto and then i also put some money in that one...i only need to know they are not going to do a RS like GTE did when they moved to amex because you see what happens then...ndol is my favorite now
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quote:Originally posted by Glacierguy: Look at Yahoo Financial massage board of gnbt. Only four or five persons involved in the discussion of the "scam". It is worth to read. My point is the strongest reason why this is not a scam is that "Stratton D. Stevens is a member of the Order of Canada. There have only been 5000 or so to receive the honor in the past 40 years. I highly doubt that he is involved in a penny stock pump and dump scam! "
"Hell, I can't even find gnbt"---NoW wrote
I appreciate the help Glacier. And, yeah, I felt it was necessary to post that about Stevens last night. Glad to see it made it's way around the boards.
I just think it's interesting/hilarious/sad that all this scam crap has surfaced after the PR and dramatic rise from the .60's to the 1.30s.
Everyone who wasn't able to get a piece of this pie....now wants a piece of this pie....but they don't want to pay the going price...or their just flat-out jealous that we latched on to a big winner.
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same thing happened to STTK they recieved a huge 5 million initial order and stock rose above 1.70 then ********** ATTACKED sttk accountability. now everything has been clarified, and I'm more confident about the company, ive been holding for a week. I plan to add more and hold it for may, see how it plays out gltua
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