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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Hey Glassman when did you become a lefty? lol

i'm for the Truth Lockman. i don't have a horse in this race.

here's why.

if Obama wins? the Dems control the whole shooting match.

they'll piss people off bad enough that they'll lose the House in two years and the Senate in 4 or 6....

if McCain wins? we'll have what i consider the perfect balance for getting good laws on the books and overall progress in the society...

i would prefer the latter, but we have a real problem if Palin ends up in the white house. people are reacting to what they've been told she is, but i spent enough time reading about her to have a pretty good idea what she is, and it isn't what we've been told.

i don't beleive McCain can win just because he says he is for change this week....

he's had a good career. but he is talking like he's goingto cut the Govt budget too harshly too fast. if he gets elected for saying that? and he doesn't do it? is that honest?
and if he does do it? we are in trouble...

the news today was specific. the Govt is the only place that isn't bleeding jobs... that's why a large govt is actually a stabilising "anchor" to a strong economy...

you may not like it, but that's the truth.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
I guess Bl*g has become a four letter word we can't use. lol

it always was here, and when i do research i skip right over them...

Palin gets hits like crazy in the Anchorage Daily News, which is a newspaper that has basically been GOP friendly and Palin friendly.

AK had 110,000 Dem and 190,000 GOP votes in 2004... it's a very GOP friendly state...

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Wallymac,

Why not just admit that you are 100% behind Osama Obama. Everything you have posted is in opposition to McCain and you are clearly a democrat, whether you can admit it or not.

Everyone with even a single brain cell knows that Obama denounced Wright for political reasons. Obama certainly believes all the radical nonsense, but he can't get elected spewing that leftist hatred in public. Therefore, he publicly distanced himself from Wright. Simple.

Once again you are showing that you are incapable of either doing proper DD or that you read what you want.

Not once have I posted negatively regarding McCain, in fact I have stated that I rather like him. What I have posted is rebuttal to information that IMO, refutes incorrect information. As far as Sarah Palin, I have posted what I found in doing my research about a political unknown that is running for the second highest office in this country.

For me, I need to know more than she supports abortion and guns for her to qualify. There are some very real dangers ahead for this country not only economically but particularly in Foreign Affairs. Research to me means more than reading what either party puts out, since they both lie. One needs to dig deeper.

The only reason I appear to support Obama at this point is because he has been much more specific and detailed reagarding his agenda than the Republican ticket has.

I have stated my apprehension as regard to the Dem ticket and will add that I agree with Glass regarding one party having control of congress and the White House at the same time. The fact is that Palin is biggest reason I have trouble fully supporting McCain.

I have a bigger problem with the GOP in general since it seems that they want to present things in a hypocritical manner.

I don't use divise terminology nor do I practice childhood word plays to demean either candidate or their running mates. I do the research post what I find, debunk the untruths that I find because just like the Stock's not everything you read on a message board is true.

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i beleive McCain "hired" Palin to energise the GOP base.

he would have lost because they would not even show to vote for him...

Palin is being represented as having credentials that she just does not have....


here's some info to read, that is not a b-log:

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-16645.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 06-016

Governor Vetoes HB4001 Vows to Work with Legislature on Solution

December 28, 2006, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin vetoed HB4001 late this afternoon, under the authority vested in her by Article 11, Section 15 of the Alaska Constitution. This is the Governor’s first veto.

“The Department of Law advised me that this bill, HB4001, is unconstitutional given the recent Court order of December 19th, mandating same-sex benefits,” said Governor Sarah Palin. “With that in mind, signing this bill would be in direct violation of my oath of office.”

HB4001 passed during the special session of the Legislature in the final month of the Murkowski administration. The bill prohibited the commissioner of the department of administration from adopting same-sex regulations, allowing them to become law, or implementing them. In the Department of Law opinion passed along to the Governor, Attorney General Talis Colberg writes, “the bill… effectively eliminated the regulatory process as a way to comply with the Court’s order to provide same-sex domestic partner benefits for state employees and members of state retirement systems.” Colberg further states that the December 19, 2006 order is “legally sufficient to authorize the commission of administration to expand state employee health benefits or change the retirement systems to provide benefits for same-sex domestic partners.”


i beleive the "joke" may be on the party hard-liners here...

thing is? i don't think being a mayor of 5000 person town and the Governor of Alaska (or Texas) makes you ready to be president...

the Senate banded together three years ago and set themselves up as the most likely to take over...i saw this develop as it happened... they have the Presidency sewn up before the election even happens...

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here's another good resource for learning about her:

http://aprn.org/2007/07/17/sitkas-performing-arts-space-scaling-back-in-wake-of- funding-veto/

Sitka’s performing arts space scaling back in wake of funding veto

Tue, July 17, 2007
Posted in Alaska News

Sitka’s new High School auditorium and Performing Arts Center is nearing completion. But it won’t get as close to being done as backers had hoped. That’s because Governor Sarah Palin vetoed an $800,000 legislative appropriation that was intended to help finish the facility.

Ed Schoenfeld, CoastAlaska - Juneau


an unb-log resource


Palin releases evidence of pressure on Public Safety surrounding Wooten / Monegan

Wed, August 13, 2008
Posted in Alaska News, Top Stories


Governor Palin today made public some of the documents the Department of Law has accumulated during its internal investigation of the firing of former Public Safety commissioner Walt Monegan. The Department is investigating the firing to determine if there was undue pressure on Monegan and others in his department to fire state Trooper Mike Wooten. Palin says some of her staff’s contacts with Monegan could have been taken as coming at her direction — although, she says, she did not authorize them.

Dave Donaldson, APRN - Juneau



http://aprn.org/page/3/?s=palin

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I was recently talking with the husband of my cousin. He has been a City Planner for many years. He currently is working for a small city in Southern California. He has told me that whenever there are new elections he has to put out feelers for another job. Firings in small city government are the norm when new administrations come into power.

According to him, small city government is the most political and petty of all Government.

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I will tell you one thing Wallymac i have my doubts about our state protective industries in CA.

Juat came from a conferance meeting with the labor board about unpaid wages for my wife.

This has taken her 6 months to get to the conferance since quitting her job.

It was definantly pro business even though the agency is suppose to be there to protect the employee.

The company had a lawyer there to represent them who made my wife an offer before we even got to the hearing.

When we got to the hearing they made the same offer at which time my wife asked what the offer was based on, they have no clue because there is no argument that the money is owed and the offer was much less.

You are suppose to get your wages plus one month pay for the first month, the state gets 10%
interest on all unpaid money until it is settled which sucks.

The first thing the conferance officer said to me is that they usually do not allow anyone with the defendent unless it's an attorney but she would allow me to stay if i would not say anything.

Of course the other side has no stipulations.

This person in charge started out by jumping on my wife because the officer in charge said there was no documentation stating my wife's case.

My wife sent it in with her reply and told the person in charge that she had, this person finally looked and found it.

The big thing to this whole labor dispute is that there has never been an argument that the company does not owe what she turn in, it is just that they do not pay.

The hearing officer started right off by saying there is nothing concrete by the state saying that we cannot accept an offer excluding the 1 month penalty pay that the state requires a company to pay if they do not pay wages owed within one month.

This whole system seems to be pro business now and for the person that is really struggling, business will win every time and short this person what is owed.

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I have been to anchorge about 6 times and Palmer.
Also several eskimo villages in my life.

I have actually talked to some of the people up there who supported sucsession strange bunch.

One thing most of them over look is that Alaskans live on federal money it made that state and Alaska would dry up with out it.The oil money is just Icing on the cake.

I do not see the frontier spirit that they talk about at least anymore than other people have from other states.

If anything I see a bunch of beer bellied people from a long winter of laying on there can and drinking beer. Then its outside for the summer and a heart attack for some from a walk in the park.

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IWISHIHAD:

The labor board has been a joke for quite sometime.

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What's the difference between Bush and Palin? ...Lipstick!
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you got that right Highway. I can't see anythinking women voting for her.Her stance on abortion is like riding in a time machine going back 200 hundred years.

If she gets in I hope the public library books are safe

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quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
What's the difference between Bush and Palin? ...Lipstick!

i noticed she pronounced nuclear as nukular the first speech, but in her acceptance speech? they put new-clear on her teleprompter so she wouldn't do it again...

she also beleives that the Iraq mission is God's plan?
go to 3:35 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9tJX-e24iQ

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Well I missed Gods mission thank you Glass food for more dd on good old caribou barbie lord of the tundra
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her Church:

http://wasillaag.org/index.php?nid=3720&s=au


What is the "Assemblies of God?"
The Assemblies of God was formed out of the pentecostal revivals of the early 1900's. It is a movement and a fellowship, established for furthering the work of God throughout the world. Today there is over 12,000 Assembly of God churches in the US, with more all around the world. To read more, we encourage to visit
www.ag.org.


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1536744

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OK, the lies are begining to show thru:

Sarah Palin didn't sell the Jet on ebay... she put it on ebay, but it didn't sell...

and when it sold? it was sold at a 600,000$ loss not a gain as was touted at the convention....

again? note the date, this was published a year before Palin was "hired"

Jet That Helped Defeat an Alaska Governor Is Sold

By WILLIAM YARDLEY
Published: August 25, 2007

It grounded one governor and did not exactly fly off the shelf on eBay, but the jet that came to symbolize the troubles of the former Alaska governor Frank H. Murkowski has landed with a new owner.

A businessman from Valdez, Alaska, Larry Reynolds, paid $2.1 million this week for the state-owned Westwind II jet that Mr. Murkowskis successor, Gov. Sarah S. Palin, promised to purge from the state inventory when she ran against Mr. Murkowski last fall in the Republican primary.

Mr. Murkowskis office tried to obtain money from the Homeland Security Department to buy the jet, saying it would help defend, deter or defeat opposition forces. He was denied. Later, in 2005, against the wishes of the Legislature, Mr. Murkowski used state money to buy it for $2.7 million.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/us/25jet.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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bridge to nowhere? just say no? LOL:


When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.

"People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.

Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.

National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion.
The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.

In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN3125537020080901


yeah, she's stopping wasteful spending alright [Roll Eyes]


07-192

Gravina Access Project Redirected

September 21, 2007, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today directed the Department of Transportation and Public Facilities to look for the most fiscally responsible alternative for access to the Ketchikan airport and Gravina Island instead of proceeding any further with the proposed $398 million bridge.
“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer,” said Governor Palin. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added. “Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.” The Department of Transportation has approximately $36 million in federal funds that will become available for other projects with the shutdown of the Gravina Island bridge project. Governor Palin has directed Commissioner Leo von Scheben to review transportation projects statewide to prepare a list of possible uses for the funds, while the department also looks for a more affordable answer for Gravina Island access.


http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-28635.html

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I think with all the dirt that is coming out on Palin nobdy will have to attack her.

She will most likley dig her own grave that is the thought of some folks.

She may just resign.

That can happen remember Thomas Eagleton was a democratic VP for 18 days different circumstances but was not good for the ticket

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as i browse the official Alaska press archive? i get alot of missing page errors...

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Sounds like a George Orwell novel to me a little like 1984.
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i find that she pushed pretty hard to get oil taxes raised considerably:


Governor Palin Announces Special Session to Revisit Oil Taxes

August 3, 2007, Juneau, Alaska - Saying Alaskans must have confidence in the integrity of the state’s oil tax structure, Governor Sarah Palin today announced her intention to call the Legislature into special session starting October 18, 2007, to reconsider the Petroleum Profits Tax (PPT) it passed last year.

Due in part to the public corruption probe, Governor Palin directed the Department of Revenue to review the performance of PPT. The department has completed a Status Report on the Implementation of PPT, released today. The report concludes:

PPT is resulting in far less revenue than was estimated in the fiscal notes prepared in support of the bill. Companies are reporting far greater costs than were predicted when PPT passed. Exploration companies are getting less value from the credits included in PPT than was expected due to the limited market of taxpayers willing to buy the credits.
The Governor has directed the Department of Revenue to prepare a proposal to respond to the substantive deficiencies with PPT


http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-20914.html

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What can anybody say I read an article that Hillary is not going after her she will be on the attack against McCain.

I feel with Palin is you give her the rope and she will hang herself.

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wow, i just found an interesting b-log page from last year. it's obviously wrotten by one of her enemies, but it might provide some good directions to look:


Just who in the world is Sarah Palin to demand answers from anyone?

This is a person who got elected by not answering questions and who continues to govern in the same manner.


First, her administration has taken spending to record levels after promising to cut the budget. In fact, even after approving a record operating budget, she eagerly supported a twenty million dollar entitlement program and never bothered to explain how she was going to pay for it. Second, she has been silent on Shell Oil’s predicament in the Beaufort Sea. Third, I wouldn’t call excluding the producers from bidding on AGIA while proposing to raise oil taxes for the third time in three years as pro-development.

We are quickly progressing to a point where Palin’s lack of knowledge about the economy and her addiction to press grabs will become more than simply annoying, it could become crippling to Alaska’s economy.

To add insult to injury, the latest global rankings from Woods-MacKenzie rank Alaska 87th out of the top 103 oil & gas markets as far as fiscal stability. (June 2007 Report, Executive Summary, Appendix: Fiscal Terms Index--pp. 18-19)

But yet Palin's approach is to raise taxes for the third time in three years.

In fact, the state takes four different types of taxes from oil companies. Property taxes, production taxes, royalties and corporate income taxes. Alaska's tax take is currently 61%, Palin's proposal would lift that to 68%.



http://www.andrewhalcro.com/sept_28_palin_ppt_and_alaskas_economic_future


these guys REALLY don't like her, better ignore them [Big Grin]

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nice find glass I think McCain will start feeling some pains of regret
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well it is a b-log..

i see why she's popular, she gave people money, but i'm seeing some oil people that are real unhappy with her..

she said in her speech that she has started a natural gas pipeline, the project is called the AGIA:

August 1, 2008, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today thanked lawmakers for passing House Bill 3001, legislation that authorizes the administration to award the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) license to TransCanada Alaska (“TC Alaska”) to permit, develop and build a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from a natural gas treatment plant at Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope to the Alberta Hub in Canada. “This is a historic day in Alaska,” Governor Palin said. “Alaska’s potential to continue providing a safe, secure and domestic source of energy is great. I am proud of the hard work that went into this process from both the gasline team and the legislature. And I thank all our legislators for their tireless efforts.”

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1375

project cost is estimated at 40 billion$...
i'm trying to figure out who "owns" it when they are done? i suppose the state owns it?

Distance-sensitive rates for Alaskans. TC Alaska has committed to “distance-sensitive” rates for Alaska’s gas. TC Alaska’s proposed distance-sensitive rates ensure that Alaskans will pay just the costs incurred to ship gas from the North Slope to one of the five off-take points within Alaska; unlike today when Alaskans pay the competitive price on the world markets.

i guess TransCanada keeps it and charges for gas delivery?

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hmmmm... this article appeared just before the vote:

Former governors pan AGIA
Hickel, Knowles have own ideas about how to develop state's gas

By Pat Forgey | JUNEAU EMPIRE

Two former governors provided sharply contrasting views Monday on Gov. Sarah Palin's Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, though neither Republican Wally Hickel nor Democrat Tony Knowles supported it.

Hickel urged a vote against the gas pipeline project brought forward under AGIA, a line across Alaska and Canada to the U.S. Midwest. He said that project would put Alaska's gas under the control of a foreign country.

"Don't sell us out," Hickel urged the legislators, currently meeting in special session to decide whether to support TransCanada's $28 billion gas pipeline plan.

Hickel is notable for being Alaska's only two-time governor. He was first elected in 1966 and then again in 1990. He left his first term early to serve in President Richard Nixon's cabinet as Secretary of Interior.

He told lawmakers Monday the state should build its own gas pipeline across the state, the so-called "all-Alaska" gas pipeline, and export its gas in liquefied form to lucrative Chinese markets.

Letting Canada control Alaska's gas would give up the state's sovereignty, he said.

At least two liquefied natural gas proposals were submitted under AGIA, but neither was found to meet the state's requirements.

Knowles, who served two consecutive terms as governor starting in 1994, also urged rejecting TransCanada's application, but for a different reason.

A competing project proposed by two of the state's oil producers and natural gas leaseholders, called Denali, also would follow the Alaska Highway on its route through the Yukon and on to Alberta, where it would link up with pipelines that could carry it to the U.S.


http://juneauempire.com/stories/072908/sta_310988229.shtml

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this is "cute":
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Republican vice presidential hopeful's church promotes prayer to make gays straight

Associated Press - September 5, 2008 9:34 PM ET

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Governor Palin's home church is promoting a conference that aims to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.

The Wasilla Bible Church included an insert in its latest worship bulletin promoting a conference by Focus on the Family, a national Christian fundamentalist organization.

The group is conducting the "Love Won Out" Conference in Anchorage, about 30 miles from Wasilla.

Palin, campaigning as Republican John McCain's running mate, has not publicly expressed a view on the so-called "pray away the gay" movement.

Wayne Besen is founder of the New York-based Truth Wins Out, a gay rights advocacy group.

Besen says he believes the McCain campaign will lose gay Republican voters if Palin supports efforts like the prayers to convert gays.

Besen is calling on Palin to publicly express her views.


http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8962100

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i see why she's popular, she gave people money, but i'm seeing some oil people that are real unhappy with her..

she said in her speech that she has started a natural gas pipeline, the project is called the AGIA:


I said this long time ago... from day 1 when she was announced as his VP choice... that oil companies dislike her and that she is choosing a Canadian company for that pipeline... now give me credit Glass... [Were Down] btw you missed one that I also mentioned:

Palin, drilling advocate, spars with oil companiesAugust 29, 2008 4:13 PM ET NEW YORK (Reuters)

"Palin has also moved to revoke Exxon Mobil's license to develop oil and natural gas at Point Thomson, arguing the company has sat for too long on the North Slope site without developing the reserves. The company is challenging that move in court and is now seeking to start drilling there."

Like I said with her having so many enemies in the oil industry, drilling of any kind either won't happen during her tenure or it will be delayed because of it.

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ok mach three gold stars for you:

 - [Big Grin]

you are prolly right, she's along way off from having the pipeline...

all this DD is making me want to move to Alaska tho...

hunting, fishing, free money..... what else could a guy want?

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Yeah!!!!!! I get 3 stars.. [Were Up]

And yes, Alaska is starting to look very attractive to me then NY lol I do like fishing and Free money... [Big Grin] What else could a guy want? Perhaps a stripper dancing for you nightly in your living room dressed up in a tight short business suit and librarian glasses telling me what a bad Democrat I am while tearing her clothes off and pulling her hair down... [Big Grin] [Were Up]

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seriously? i was just looking thru the official Alaska press archives to see what she was like before she got hired...

i'm also wondering when Bush's people er i mean Mccains people will allow her to go off-script?


for some reason Palin makes me think of this JEANNIE C RILEY oldie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4-2qMErgM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhgUvX_8Joo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBWZ7Jocc8&NR=1

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quote:
... that oil companies dislike her and that she is choosing a Canadian company for that pipeline...
Then you socialists should LOVE her!

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Palin has also moved to revoke Exxon Mobil's license to develop oil and natural gas at Point Thomson, arguing the company has sat for too long on the North Slope site without developing the reserves. The company is challenging that move in court and is now seeking to start drilling there."
Isn't that EXACTLY the democratic party line? ANSWER: YES, it is. This is EXACTLY what the dems are demanding - that oil companies either use their leases or lose them. Again, you lefties should love that!
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PM, you show both your bias an your extreme far right-wing bias every time you post.

Then too, there is the obtuse hate you foster and your illogical narrow minded arguments from 18th century failed political movements that you base everything on and clearly haven't learned that they failed the whole world economically, resulting in two world wars.

Empirial domination of the world has been proved to do immense harm to every aspect of human activity. (Even should the backward economic system you wish gain retrenchment in some part of the world and, then, should you be able to position yourself within it, a cursory read of Niccolò Machiavelli will make clear that an egocentric loudmouth like you would be eliminated in short order from any position beyond social riff-raff.) Not only does it take more brains than your kind can imagine, you havn't the social and political grace and savy to survive in the world order you pray for.

Indeed, you pray for an existence in which you could only hold the position of prey.

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Well to me giving people money,and mach you did bring that up a long time ago.

Anyway by giving people money by raising taxes on a wealthy group and then rebate the increased revenue to every body is socialism,in its purest form.

If a politican in the lower 48 like califoria was to say we will let you drill off shore if the citizens all get big checks every year,from the revenue the oil companies make, they would have been drilling a long time ago.

And I don't think any right wingers would refuse the checks because they had the taint of socialism on them.

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And I don't think any right wingers would refuse the checks because they had the taint of socialism on them.

no they don't... it's funny how principles melt away when money is involved.

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