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There is the old line from the farmer that is taking money from Uncle Sam to not plant cotton and taking money from the State to not run cattle or sheep, while junior is off at State U. on a basketball scholarship and his sister is going to the tuition free county community college to learn to be a homemaker.

After he drove to town to turn in the forms to get refunded for the taxes on the gasoline he and mama and little sister burn running round town (since farm use of gasoline is non-taxble), he stopped by the local coffee shop, where he loudly proclaimed he would never vote for any of "them damned socialist taxing and spending democrats"...."Why, they oughtern tur be locked up in the high sharif's jail house and made to pledge alegunce to th 'Merican flag three times day and fed on nothing but stale beans and dried bread 'til they larnes that the founders o' this heah mighty land mint this to be a cristian captalistic and anti-comunistic country, jest lak they wrote in the Decloraion o Indepndence" and the "Bill o Wrights".

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Then too, there is the obtuse hate you foster and your illogical narrow minded arguments from 18th century failed political movements that you base everything on and clearly haven't learned that they failed the whole world economically, resulting in two world wars.

Empirial domination of the world has been proved to do immense harm to every aspect of human activity. (Even should the backward economic system you wish gain retrenchment in some part of the world and, then, should you be able to position yourself within it, a cursory read of Niccolò Machiavelli will make clear that an egocentric loudmouth like you would be eliminated in short order from any position beyond social riff-raff.) Not only does it take more brains than your kind can imagine, you havn't the social and political grace and savy to survive in the world order you pray for.

Indeed, you pray for an existence in which you could only hold the position of prey.

The king of gibberish!
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The simple minded must always fail to see the "truth" in poetry and then describe it as gibberish, for it reaches beyond the extent of their imagination.
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Has anyone else noticed that John Mccain sound Just like Doctor Evil from Austin Powers.....Listen!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0be5ZA7aaA8

and now this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ4CweGjUVM

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I never saw Lieberman wearing an eye patch before.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/jon-stewart-hits-karl-rov_n_123852.html

This is a funny clip from the John Stewart show.

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Sarah Palin has yet to meet the press Michael Calderone
Sat Sep 6, 6:21 PM ET



When political junkies flip through television stations on Sunday morning, they'll find policy-driven interviews with three of the four candidates on the presidential tickets — John McCain, Barack Obama and Joe Biden. They won’t, though, see Sarah Palin.

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Less than two months before voters hit the polls, Palin has yet to sit down for or even schedule an issues-oriented interview with any newspaper, magazine or television network.

Meanwhile, the McCain campaign has significantly scaled back the access of the national press he used to jokingly refer to as his “base,” and several speakers, including Palin, took shots at the media in their speeches at last week's Republican convention.

Since her debut in Dayton, Ohio, the McCain campaign has been receiving about 80-100 requests a day from news organizations around the world, according to spokesman Ben Porritt, who said interest in an interview was "through the roof" and that the campaign was going through them now.

"There's no doubt in my mind that the McCain campaign would like to run out on the clock on this," said David Chalian, political director for ABC News.

He expects the campaign will tightly manage access to Palin, but give some national interviews shortly before the Oct. 2 vice presidential debate with Biden, moderated by PBS' Gwen Ifill.

"They know they're not going to get through the next 60 days without doing interviews and being tested and prodded," Chalian said.

But even if Palin does submit to a few carefully selected interviews around the October debate, that means another month before the 37-million-plus viewers who tuned into Palin's speech and others get their first look at how the newcomer to the national stage performs outside of a campaign-controlled setting.

In the meantime, Fox News is rolling out a special (as are other networks): "Gov. Sarah Palin: An American Woman," a one-hour biography hosted by Greta Van Susteren that includes "exclusive video and photos" and "interviews with her family, friends and colleagues" — but not Palin herself.

Palin has already become a ubiquitous presence on newsstands. Presently, her face adorns the cover of traditional newsweeklies Time and Newsweek, Beltway favorites The New Republic and The Weekly Standard, and even celebrity glossies Us Weekly and Ok!.

While everyone from the New Yorker to CNBC has rushed to republish their older interviews with the Alaska governor, it's People magazine that has the only actual interview she’s done since joining to the ticket.

Larry Hackett, managing editor of People, said the McCain campaign offered the magazine an opportunity to photograph McCain and "Nominee TK" at the Aug. 29 event in Dayton.



In addition to a brief Q&A with both Republicans (as well as their spouses and McCain’s daughter Meghan) and an accompanying article that was mostly based on months-old reporting, the magazine also ran a lifestyle feature on Palin’s life as a working mother running a statehouse and her own house.

People has a long history of reporting on the personal side of candidates and their families, but Hackett acknowledges that "we have a different job" than overtly political titles.

"Are we going to ask about Pakistan?" Hackett said rhetorically, adding that it's not a focus for their readers.

That said, journalists are pushing hard to ask Palin about Pakistan — and Iraq, Iran, Russia, North Korea and Al Qaeda, not to mention a host of domestic issues, from the economy to health care.

Jay Carney, Time's Washington bureau chief, questioned McCain spokesperson Nicole Wallace about the lack of access on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last Thursday, resulting in a heated exchange that quickly got passed around via YouTube.

"We know now that Sarah Palin can give one hell of a speech," Carney said. "She's a natural. And that's no mean feat. We don't know yet and we won't know until you guys allow her to take questions, you know, can she answer tough questions about domestic policy, foreign policy?"

"But I mean, like from who?” Wallace asked. "From you?”

When Carney answered "Yes," Wallace followed up with, "Who cares?

"I think the American people want to see her," Wallace continued. "Who cares if she can talk to Time magazine?"

Later that day, Carney — who last week had a much-buzzed about interview with McCain in which the candidate became testy, and refused to answer some questions — told Politico that the McCain campaign is acting "condescending and smug" toward the press.

"The national media," he added, "will be kept far away" from Palin.

They may be at once close and far away. Top newspaper reporters will be on the trail with her day after day, including The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin. The New York Times will have a rotating cast, beginning with Monica Davey.

And each network will have an off-air producer, or embed, devoted to the Palin beat: Matt Berger (NBC/ National Journal), Shushannah Walshe (Fox), Imtiyaz Delawala (ABC), Scott Conroy (CBS), and Peter Hamby (CNN). The bigger-name, on-air correspondents will also be on the road with Palin from time to time.

Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said that since Palin has had to focus on regional issues as Alaska's governor, he expects she'll begin with media avails on the road and only offer wide-ranging interviews after getting thoroughly prepared for them by the campaign.

However, he said, "if a presidential candidate or a vice presidential candidate declines to do interviews, the news organizations will note that."

Even when Palin does begin taking interviews, it remains to be seen if she’ll grant them to outlets with which the campaign has had a hostile relationship — most notably the New York Times.

"There's no question that we've had less and less access to McCain himself," said Richard Stevenson, the paper's political editor. "Certainly the Times has had a strained relationship with that campaign for a while."

"Strained" might be putting it mildly.

Since February, when the McCain campaign talked about going to war with the paper over a front-page article that included allegations of an improper relationship with a female lobbyist, there have been several public disputes. This past Tuesday, a McCain spokesperson described Elisabeth Bumiller, one the reporters on the McCain beat, as a "fiction" writer.

"I know whether or not they cooperate with us, we will be very actively looking into who [Palin] is, what she's done, what her record is — as much as we can learn about her in as concentrated a time as we can," Stevenson said.

"One of the costs to them of not putting her out there," he added, "is the coverage is going to define her as much as the campaign."

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Jay Carney, Time's Washington bureau chief, questioned McCain spokesperson Nicole Wallace about the lack of access on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last Thursday, resulting in a heated exchange that quickly got passed around via YouTube.

"We know now that Sarah Palin can give one hell of a speech," Carney said. "She's a natural. And that's no mean feat. We don't know yet and we won't know until you guys allow her to take questions, you know, can she answer tough questions about domestic policy, foreign policy?"

"But I mean, like from who?” Wallace asked. "From you?”

When Carney answered "Yes," Wallace followed up with, "Who cares?

"I think the American people want to see her," Wallace continued. "Who cares if she can talk to Time magazine?"


If any man running for one of the top 2 offices in this country had done this, you know that the press along with the opponent's campaign would be saying that they weren't ready for prime time.

IMO, this is reverse sexism. Using gender as a cop out from answering the the real questions.


WHY IS SHE DIFFERENT than any other politician running for office? If she is truly qualifed let her show it. Giving a speech is one thing answering adversarial questions on your feet is another. I mean this is a Woman who wants to be treated the same as any man running for office.

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Its very telling that Bushs' speech writer also wrote Palins' speech

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Jordan,

That explains why her speech was one after another of the same lies and illogical misconceptions dubya and super-Dick have been spreading for years.

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If any man running for one of the top 2 offices in this country had done this, you know that the press along with the opponent's campaign would be saying that they weren't ready for prime time.
That's funny! Osama Obama has been ducking any real questions for months. Until the other night, he would only do interviews with the socialist left press! When he FINALLY did an interview on Fox, with Bill O'Reilly, he was forced to admit that the surge in Iraq has worked beyond his wildest dreams! LOL!
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The funny thing is that temporarily the surge has worked. Partially because of Al-Sadr reeling in his people and the Sunni's getting paid to fight with the US. Also Afghanistan has became a bigger problem since the Surge.

When this first happened my thoughts were that the terrorists would regroup and start hitting Afghanistan. This is not a traditional war with traditional enemy. Al Queda is not trying to defeat the US military in the tradition sense. It seems they are more interested in causing disruptions and havoc.

You need to look at this history of the region. What happened to The Soviet Union in Afghanistan? They controlled but the insurgents kept fighting and eventually the Soviet's realized that they could never completely win and they cut their losses.

Up until now we have mainly been fighting Al Queda but the tone of the Afghan people(not the government), but the people is changing because they aren't better off and civilians are being killed not purposely but they are still being killed.

Are you actually saying that FOX is the only non socialist left press? I wonder if O'Reilly would be as hard on Palin? Especially since her was against her prior to her speech.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
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If any man running for one of the top 2 offices in this country had done this, you know that the press along with the opponent's campaign would be saying that they weren't ready for prime time.
That's funny! Osama Obama has been ducking any real questions for months. Until the other night, he would only do interviews with the socialist left press! When he FINALLY did an interview on Fox, with Bill O'Reilly, he was forced to admit that the surge in Iraq has worked beyond his wildest dreams! LOL!
that's just not true.

Obama has been in the most debates of any candidate ever.

furthermore?

i told you the Media would eat her alive. Mccains people know this to be true too..

Sarah has yet to give a single real interview, and it may be weeks before she does....

even Mccains people know she's not ready for prime time...

they are "selling" her as a pinup...

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What has Palin ever done that Vice-Dick hasn't already accomplished in spades?

Every thing she claims to believe and champion is something Chaney has championed for years.

This even goes so far so as demanding that, when a daughter acts exactly contrary to one of the championed principles of practice and honor that must not be defied, any consideration of the fact by anyone, particularly by those not in support of the championed principle, be placed "out of bounds" by the public and the media and labeled "personal, untouchable, private, and none of anyones business, and anyone suggesting otherwise is playing unfair and cheating".

When you loudly and constantly championing abstinence as the only acceptable method for everyone else on Earth, and you are seeking to be put in the most powerful position on Earth, you deserve to be forcefully reminded that it doesn't work!

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Palin agrees to interview Mike Allen
40 minutes ago



Under pressure for being shielded for questioning, Sarah Palin has a agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson of ABC’s “World News Tonight,” according to an ABC News official.

No other interviews are scheduled. It will be the first TV interview for Palin since she was named 10 days ago as running mate to John McCain.

Palin had planned to return to Alaska this weekend but is so popular on the stump that she is going to stay out a few more days before returning home. One of her sons deploys to Iraq on Thursday.

Palin plans to sit down with Gibson later this week in Alaska, the source said.

The McCain campaign kept her off Sunday shows this weekend and plans to be sparing with high-risk network encounters, which they contend are unimportant to voters despite the media’s fixation on them.

But McCain officials could see her reticence was feeding the narrative of her being unprepared for the job.

Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.

“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”

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I wonder how old long rifle will stand up
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More lies and smear on the Palin bashing bandwagon.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp

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Irrespectfully as to whether or not that EXACT list of books was submitted by Palin, both before and after taking office, Palin DID suggest and or request to the librarian that she wanted the librarian to ban specific books at Palin's direction.

We do not know which specific books Palin wanted banned, but that is not the problem.

After that request was summarily (and quite rightfully) rejected by the librarian, once Palin had the power to do so, the librarian was summarily removed.

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Palin would have made a good brown shirt I could see her shutting down news rooms.news paper publishers. All for the greater glory of the State church.
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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Irrespectfully as to whether or not that EXACT list of books was submitted by Palin, both before and after taking office, Palin DID suggest and or request to the librarian that she wanted the librarian to ban specific books at Palin's direction.

We do not know which specific books Palin wanted banned, but that is not the problem.

After that request was summarily (and quite rightfully) rejected by the librarian, once Palin had the power to do so, the librarian was summarily removed.

Where did you hear this?

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Where did you hear this?


the Anchorage Daily News had it from before sh ewas selected for VP....

this article is dated sep 4th but there was one out before that:

Palin pressured Wasilla librarian

TOWN MAYOR: She wanted to know if books would be pulled.

By RINDI WHITE
rwhite*adn.com

Published: September 4th, 2008 01:49 AM
Last Modified: September 4th, 2008 06:36 PM

In December 1996, Emmons told her hometown newspaper, the Frontiersman, that Palin three times asked her -- starting before she was sworn in -- about possibly removing objectionable books from the library if the need arose.

Emmons told the Frontiersman she flatly refused to consider any kind of censorship. Emmons, now Mary Ellen Baker, is on vacation from her current job in Fairbanks and did not return e-mail or telephone messages left for her Wednesday.

When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there.

Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name.

"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, 'The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.'"

Palin didn't mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor's job, which she'd won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.


http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.


you might note that Sarah also has a reputation within the party of biting the hands that feed her... that's how she got the Governors seat form a GOP.


that's why they call her an agent of change...

however? i see this as normal small town politics.

things are very different in DC...

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"Where did you hear this?"

Lockman, I didn't hear it, I read it.

The appropriate question is how did you manage to fail reading it.

It is all over the internet and was in our local paper, as well papers across the land and most national news magazines and it has been since before she won the governorship of Alaska.

Do you even read the post here? It was in the link CCM left that I was responding to, for christ sake!

You need to learn pay attention to something beyond Fox News and RNC talking points.

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Obama puts heat on Palin as she boosts GOP ticket
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. - Listening to Barack Obama, it can seem like Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin is the main person standing between him and the White House instead of John McCain.

Obama is putting as much heat on Palin as he is on the man at the top of the GOP ticket, objecting to the Republican Party's portrayal of her as a reformer who can bring change to Washington.

That is supposed to be Obama's distinction, and he's not taking kindly to Palin trying to claim it. Especially when it appears the new star on the GOP ticket is helping boost its standing: McCain has jumped to a dead heat or narrow lead over Obama in the latest national polls since choosing Palin as his running mate.

Obama said last week's Republican National Convention did a good job of highlighting Palin's biography - "Mother, governor, moose shooter. That's cool," he said. But he said Palin really is just another Republican politician, one who is stretching the truth about her record.

"When John McCain gets up there with Sarah Palin and says, `We're for change,' ... what are they talking about?" Obama said Monday, arguing that they aren't offering different ideas from President Bush and they are just trying to steal his campaign theme because it seemed to be working.

"It was just like a month ago they were all saying, `Oh, it's experience, experience, experience.' Then they chose Palin and they started talking about change, change, change," he said.

Obama's supporters appear to be just as fired up against Palin. In Farmington Hills, they booed when Obama first mentioned her name and laughed dismissively when he said she had a compelling biography. "Whatever," an audience member shouted.

In Dayton, Ohio, Tuesday, the crowd waiting for Obama to take the stage chanted "No pit bulls! No pit bulls!" - a reference to Palin's joke that lipstick is the only thing that sets hockey moms like her apart from the dogs.

Obama's campaign seemed to be caught off guard by McCain's surprise pick of Palin on Aug. 29. Obama's spokesman initially blasted her as a former small-town mayor with zero foreign policy experience who wants to continue Bush's policies. But Obama quickly walked the statement back with more congratulatory words about Palin as a compelling addition to the ticket.

Voters, particularly women, seem to agree, according to new polls. An ABC News-Washington Post survey showed white women have moved from backing Obama by 8 points to supporting McCain by 12 points, with majorities viewing Palin favorably and saying she boosts their faith in McCain's decisions.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said there's no doubt Palin is helping excite the GOP base, but what remains to be seen is how she plays with swing voters over the remaining two months of the campaign.

"There's no question they believe Governor Palin has given them a surge of energy in the short term," he said. "We'll see where we stand eight weeks from now."

With Palin out on the campaign trail every day blasting Obama, it became increasingly clear he had to respond and try to undermine her credibility. He was careful with his approach, declining in an interview on MSNBC's "Countdown" on Monday to respond directly to a question about whether she's too inexperienced to be next in line to the presidency.

But Obama's campaign saw an opening when the McCain-Palin campaign released a new ad Monday called "Original Mavericks" that included the claim that Palin stopped the so-called Bridge to Nowhere, a nearly $400 million proposal to build a bridge to an island in Alaska occupied by just 50 residents and an airport. Obama called the claim "shameless."

Palin voiced support for the bridge during her campaign to become Alaska's governor, although she was critical of the size, and later abandoned plans for the project. She used the federal dollars for other projects in Alaska.

"A bunch of heat started generating because people were thinking, `Why are we building a bridge to nowhere?'" Obama said to laughter from a packed gymnasium of supporters in the Detroit suburb of Farmington Hills. Some booed at the mention of her name.

"So a deal was cut where Alaska still got the money. They just didn't build a bridge with it, and now she's out there acting like she was fighting this thing the whole time," he said, jabbing his fist in the air like a boxer. He released his own ad in response to the GOP spot that says McCain and Palin are "politicians lying about their records."

At an earlier stop Monday in Flint, Obama said of the bridge claim: "I mean, you can't just make stuff up. You can't just re-create yourself. You can't just reinvent yourself. The American people aren't stupid. What they are looking for is someone who has consistently been calling for change."

Two Democratic strategists, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they hoped Obama would assign his own running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, the task of countering Palin, rather than do it himself. They declined to speak on the record to avoid appearing critical of Obama's campaign.

On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Palin has billed Alaska taxpayers for more than $43,000 in travel and lodging expenses for her children and husband during the 19 months she has been governor.

Sharon Leighow, a spokeswoman for the Alaska governor's office, told the Post that many of the invitations Palin receives also request that she bring her family. And the newspaper pointed out that Palin's travel expenses are far less than those of her predecessor, Frank Murkowski.

McCain-Palin spokesman Tucker Bounds said Obama's negative attacks show he is increasingly desperate.

"Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have shook up the establishment and delivered real reforms," Bounds said. "Barack Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

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ITS MCCAIN ALL THE WAY! BANK 0N IT! I AM. [Big Grin]

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We alreay knew that IMAKEMONEY.
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quote:
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ITS MCCAIN ALL THE WAY! BANK 0N IT! I AM. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY:
ITS MCCAIN ALL THE WAY! BANK 0N IT! I AM. [Big Grin]

I've got millions riding on that vote....


McCain is for me....plain and simple.

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I repeat ,caribou barbie lord Govn. of the tundra.

From the welfare state of Alaska

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lip stick on a pig and you still have a pig.

Obama was not speaking of her

But I was

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She referred to herself as a animal (pitbull) and Obama referred to another animal instead... i see nothing wrong with it... if a person takes offense to being called a animal then don't refer to yourself as one in the first place... all is fair in love and war as they say... it's the same thing with your family... you do not want your family scrutinized then do not bring them front and center to be...

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If Palin objects to being likened to an animal, or whatever else, she should have thought about that before accepting a major party's nomination to high office. After all, both of them use animals as symbols.

Of course, I am assuming she has the brains to recognize the layout of the territory she decided to play in. Maybe she doesn't? If not, she is just way out on a weak limb of her own foolish making and blaming others is childish. This ain't child's play. This is for ALL the marbles.

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(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's reference to "lipstick on a pig" has Republicans demanding an apology and Democrats accusing Sen. John McCain of a "pathetic attempt" to play the gender card.


Barack Obama used the "lipstick" line at a campaign event in Lebanon, Virginia, on Tuesday.

1 of 2 McCain's campaign said Obama's remarks were offensive and a slap at Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin -- despite the fact that the Arizona senator himself used the phrase last year to describe a policy proposal of Hillary Clinton's."


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/campaign.lipstick/index.html

The real (dirty) campaign is in full swing. It's OK for McCain to use the same phrase referencing Hillary's policy but when Obama uses it, it's sexist and about Palin. Hold on to your hats it's going down from here. The Dem's will hit back having learned that not responding (Swift Boat) doesn't work.

Issue's we don't need no stinking Issues.

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I heard the speech wherein Obama used the phrase.

He was not talking about Palin or anything close to talking about Palin.

He was speaking of the republicans trying recently to take over his claim for "Change" and described what they called change, then, he said, "you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still pig". If Palin finds ridicule of republican rhetoric degrading, she simply hasn't got the grit and substance necessary to handle national politics and can never handle the presidency.

Get real, you republican pansies! Learn to speak and use the English language so you won't be so easily confused.

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