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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
I personnally don't listen to Rush or read anything by Coulter.

Try Jerry Doyle.

You should, if you appreciate humility or honesty or integrity or have any respect for your fellow human beings (not all of these, any one), it will make you sick.


Doyle is a bit too on the side of championing simple minded things to suit me, but he tells a good joke from time to time. His politics smacks of Lester Maddox with a Brooklyn brogue.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Lockman:
I personnally don't listen to Rush or read anything by Coulter.

Try Jerry Doyle.

You should, if you appreciate humility or honesty or integrity or have any respect for your fellow human beings (not all of these, any one), it will make you sick.


Doyle is a bit too on the side of championing simple minded things to suit me, but he tells a good joke from time to time. His politics smacks of Lester Maddox with a Brooklyn brogue.

Are you a fan of msnbc's keith olberman?

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:


Once a Dumocrat always a Dumocrat!!!

Once a RePOOPbligan always a RePOOPbligan....

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quote:
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Originally posted by Lockman:


Once a Dumocrat always a Dumocrat!!!

Once a RePOOPbligan always a RePOOPbligan....
Come on isn't there enough copying by you dumocrats!

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
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Originally posted by bdgee:
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Originally posted by Lockman:
I personnally don't listen to Rush or read anything by Coulter.

Try Jerry Doyle.

You should, if you appreciate humility or honesty or integrity or have any respect for your fellow human beings (not all of these, any one), it will make you sick.


Doyle is a bit too on the side of championing simple minded things to suit me, but he tells a good joke from time to time. His politics smacks of Lester Maddox with a Brooklyn brogue.

Are you a fan of msnbc's keith olberman?
The man has a brilliant sense of humor.
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Anyone know what was in Palin's emails that were hacked? Have they been made public on the Net?

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Here's some of the email stuff....

http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-emails


Doesn't look very fertile to me, but I haven't dug through it....

You might enjoy this:

http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/tmdho080917.gif

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After everything that has gone on in the boards/rooms and in the media....I have never seen so much ugliness towards someone for as long as I can remember.

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Palin's husband refuses to testify in probe By MATT VOLZ, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 12 minutes ago



ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband has refused to testify in the investigation of his wife's alleged abuse of power, and key lawmakers said Thursday that uncooperative witnesses are effectively sidetracking the probe until after Election Day.

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Todd Palin, who participates in state business in person or by e-mail, was among 13 people subpoenaed by the Alaska Legislature. Palin's lawyer sent a letter to the lead investigator saying Palin objected to the probe and would not appear to testify on Friday.

"The objections boil down to the fact that the Legislative Council investigation is no longer a legitimate investigation because it has been subjected to complete partisanship and does not operate with the authority that it had at the time of its initial authorization," McCain-Palin presidential campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said.

Sarah Palin initially welcomed the bipartisan investigation into accusations that she dismissed the state's public safety commissioner because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. "Hold me accountable," she said.

But she has increasingly opposed it since Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her as his running mate. The McCain campaign dispatched a legal team to Alaska including O'Callaghan, a former top U.S. terrorism prosecutor from New York to bolster Palin's local lawyer.

In the letter, Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein lists nine objections to the Legislature's investigation into Gov. Palin. Van Flein also argues the subpoena is "unduly burdensome" because Palin has travel plans that require him to be out of the state.

Earlier this week, Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg said the governor, who was not subpoenaed, declined to participate in the investigation and said Palin administration employees who have been subpoenaed would not appear.

State Sen. Bill Wielechowski, a Democrat, said the McCain campaign is doing all it can to prevent the Legislature from completing a report on whether the GOP's vice presidential nominee abused her power as governor.

Wielechowski and another member of the panel that summoned the witnesses, told The Associated Press that the witnesses can avoid testifying for months without penalty and that court action to force them to appear sooner is unlikely.

Republican Sen. Gene Therriault agreed with Wielechowski's analysis.

"If we had turned the rhetoric down and turned the pressure down to do some things we might have gotten voluntary cooperation," said Therriault, who opposed the subpoenas.

The McCain-Palin campaign said Thursday that Gov. Palin is cooperating with a separate Alaska State Personnel Board investigation into Troopergate. Palin initiated that investigation after she joined McCain's ticket. The three-member board is appointed by the governor.

"I can't say it enough, the governor is an open book on this matter," McCain spokeswoman Meg Stapleton said. "She is fully cooperating with the unbiased, legally appropriate and independent investigation of the State Personnel Board."

Palin fired Walt Monegan in July. It later emerged that Palin, her husband, Todd, and several high-level staffers had contacted Monegan about state trooper Mike Wooten. Palin maintains she fired Monegan over budget disagreements, not because he wouldn't dismiss her former brother-in-law.

Wooten had gone through a nasty divorce from Palin's sister before Palin became governor. While Monegan says no one from the administration ever told him directly to fire Wooten, he says their repeated contacts made it clear they wanted Wooten gone.

Alaska Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican foe of Palin, said Wednesday that the investigation is still on track.

"The original purpose of the investigation was to bring out the truth. Nothing has changed," she said.

Without the testimony, the retired prosecutor hired to head the investigation could still release a report in October as scheduled, based on the evidence he's already gathered. As of Thursday, Steven Branchflower had interviewed or deposed 17 of the 33 people he had identified as potential witnesses in the probe.

The Legislature does not have the leverage to compel any witness to testify before Nov. 4, said Wielechowski, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Wielechowski said he did not know whether Branchflower has enough material for a complete and fair report with so few witnesses. But he said delaying the probe would only politicize the matter more.

"It would be to appease the McCain camp," Wielechowski said. "They're doing everything they can to delay."

Ignoring a legislative subpoena is punishable by a fine up to $500 and up to six months in jail under Alaska law. But courts are reluctant to intervene in legislative matters and the full Legislature must be in session to bring contempt charges, Wielechowski said. The Legislature is not scheduled to convene until January.


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If you are talking about McCain/Palin, they are bringing on themselves. IMO, they are doing this purposely to keep the attention on Palin. Even Karl ROve said that the newness and buzz about Palin was wearing off. These new moves are in essence an attempt to make her look the martyr.

What happened to she has nothing to hide?

I also found her leaving herself wide open during the Hannity interveiw by repeating the cronyism term regard washington. Since she has done the very samething in both her time as mayor and governor of Alaska. Filling posts with High School friends and people that helped her get elected.

Spend a little time on the news site in Alaska, people there are not happy.

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The Democrats have a witch hunt out on Palin, and I know why. It is because she poses so much of a threat to Obama losing they have to do whatever they can. McCain cant win without her. Obama should have picked Hillary. Now...that would be very scary. Hillary's desire for extreme Bush style power, and her delivery vehicle to bring it to her(Obama).

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
The Democrats have a witch hunt out on Palin, and I know why. It is because she poses so much of a threat to Obama losing they have to do whatever they can. McCain cant win without her. Obama should have picked Hillary. Now...that would be very scary. Hillary's desire for extreme Bush style power, and her delivery vehicle to bring it to her(Obama).

You know you and others keep saying Obama should of picked Hillary now... but before you said Hillary should not be picked for either post... make up ya minds lol anyways the thing with Hillary is over and done with already... let it rest already because it is not important anymore... Biden is the running mate not Hillary and that is who should be talked about...

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Well you see Machiavelli....A lot of people didnt know PALIN was going to be chosen until AFTER Hillary had been picked. That shouldnt be the reason of course, but look what this has turned into.

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CCM is acting on direction of the RNC to try and keep that crap alive in hopes of causing turmoil in democratic ranks, Mach. Ignore it.
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OMG are you kidding me? I am just not a sheep anymore to either party. In case you havent noticed I will applaud or shame either side and believe in Ron Paul's thinking over either. There is kool aid on both sides! This election is like who can pump the biggest penny stock for crying out loud. CMKX VS QBID

money, lies, pumping, both sides.

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And the biggest pumper of all is Ron Paul.

I am not kidding, he is a total fraud and a crackpot.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
OMG are you kidding me? I am just not a sheep anymore to either party.

You could of fooled us lol

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
The Democrats have a witch hunt out on Palin, and I know why. It is because she poses so much of a threat to Obama losing they have to do whatever they can. McCain cant win without her. Obama should have picked Hillary. Now...that would be very scary. Hillary's desire for extreme Bush style power, and her delivery vehicle to bring it to her(Obama).

What do you actual know about Sarah Palin? How much have you looked into her time in politics in Alaska? I've spent hours researching not watching the Politico's on TV or just reading the Mainstream Press because I want to know not only what she stands for but how she has governed as mayor and governor. The Palin we have been exposed to is very different from who is was.

Please don't take my word for it. Go back and do some research of what happened in Alaska prior to her being selected. It takes a lot of time but it's worth it when deciding who deserve a persons vote for one of the highest offices in the country.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
The Democrats have a witch hunt out on Palin, and I know why. It is because she poses so much of a threat to Obama losing they have to do whatever they can. McCain cant win without her. Obama should have picked Hillary. Now...that would be very scary. Hillary's desire for extreme Bush style power, and her delivery vehicle to bring it to her(Obama).

too many people ASSUME Hillary would have taken the job....

i don't think she would have....

that would have been a step down in her mind.. IMO...

i don't think Palin has brought any swing votes to McCain...

she has energised the base.. but not undecided voters wher this campaign will be won or lost...

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Lets try to be honest and rational about this person.

She has absolutely NO experience that would qualify her to be president.

Moreover, looking at her history, her administrative efforts are dominated by the crudest sort of cronyism, senseless vendettas, and abuse of trust.

Everywhere you might choose to look, almost everything she says is packed with lies and deceit, from the absurdity of her claim to be able to "see Russia from my porch", to claiming to be the force that stopped the republican boondoggle of the "Bridge to Nowhere" or firing a state official who failed to fire an enemy in her private life after being urged to so by her.

Wasilla Alaska lies approximately 600 miles from the nearest point of Russia, which is, due to the curvature of the earth, about ten times the the absolute maximum possible distance one could see anything. (Still, no doubt, the average republican's backward narrow mind can't put together that impossibility.)

The "Bridge to Nowhere" began as an earmark by indited republican Senator Ted Stevens (I don't know who first requested that he do so) and was thereafter championed repeatedly by Congressional republicans and by Palin, who spoke to that effect often and loudly. Even after the "Bridge to Nowhere" program was stopped in a democratic congress, Governor Palin refused to return the money for it to the Federal Government, spending it instead on a not essential and near private road from Anchorage to her home. (I wish I could get the feds to finance a new driveway for my house!) Palin quite rightly never claimed to have participated in the prevention of or to have stopped the "Bridge to Nowhere" prior to being named by McCain, because no effort on her part was directed at that program other than to champion it, which she did enthusiastically and repeatedly. Why does she now believe she can get away with the lie wherein she claims "I told Congress no on that "Bridge to Nowhere"". SHE DID NO SUCH THING!

During my sister's divorce, there were all manner of claims and counter claims describing the other one as cruel and dangerous and subhuman and so on and on and on and on . . . as is the case in almost any divorce. Eventually, the divorce was granted and all those demeaning and ego protecting accusations that serve to make the individuals believe they have excuses to overcome the stain of failing at marriage were soon left to wither in time. (Yes, from time to time my sister, when someone asserts that divorce is a sin or is a mark of failure, she resorts to recalling one or two of the once needed ego protections, but it is soon left again to rot and life goes on.) It was time for Palin to cease the attitude of protecting a sister in a divorce to end a rotten marriage as soon as the divorce was granted. When she refused and made her vendetta become an activity of chief executive of first the City, then the State, with all the force of that position, she went way over the line of what is acceptable in an official of the Government.

Overall and constantly, Palin has displayed a personal character that is totally unsuitable for any person holding any position with any level of governmental authority in this land. She has violated the most fundamental rules of such a governmental position: (1) authority and responsibility cannot be separated, neither may be allowed exists without the other and (2) the people must be provided with the truth.

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quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
The Democrats have a witch hunt out on Palin, and I know why. It is because she poses so much of a threat to Obama losing they have to do whatever they can. McCain cant win without her. Obama should have picked Hillary. Now...that would be very scary. Hillary's desire for extreme Bush style power, and her delivery vehicle to bring it to her(Obama).

What do you actual know about Sarah Palin? How much have you looked into her time in politics in Alaska? I've spent hours researching not watching the Politico's on TV or just reading the Mainstream Press because I want to know not only what she stands for but how she has governed as mayor and governor. The Palin we have been exposed to is very different from who is was.

Please don't take my word for it. Go back and do some research of what happened in Alaska prior to her being selected. It takes a lot of time but it's worth it when deciding who deserve a persons vote for one of the highest offices in the country.

Sure....but help us out though.....since you did extensive research, can you point us in the right direction.

Do you have links to some articles, stories, or facts we haven't seen?

Can you remember any titles of the stuff you read?

Since you said you spent hours researching Palin....surely you can point us toward some of what you are refering to.

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I've posted some of them on this board. I don't want to put together a whole profile with links and everything because then it would be called an agenda.

You can start with the Alaska Newspapers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Alaska

I also suggest reading the b logs both conservative and liberal. It takes a lot of reading and sorting out in regard to b logs because of people's view points but they do lead to articles that were no longer available.

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Palin's town charged women for rape exam
While Sarah Palin was mayor, Wasilla charged victims for their rape exams
Interviews, review of records show no evidence Palin knew victims were charged
Former state representative says it seems unlikely Palin was not aware of issue



From Jessica Yellin
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's hometown required women to pay for their own rape examinations while she was mayor, a practice her police chief fought to keep as late as 2000.

Former state Rep. Eric Croft, a Democrat, sponsored a state law requiring cities to provide the examinations free of charge to victims. He said the only ongoing resistance he met was from Wasilla, where Palin was mayor from 1996 to 2002.

"It was one of those things everyone could agree on except Wasilla," Croft told CNN. "We couldn't convince the chief of police to stop charging them."

Alaska's Legislature in 2000 banned the practice of charging women for rape exam kits -- which experts said could cost up to $1,000.

Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, often talks about her experience running Wasilla, population approximately 7,000, and that has prompted close scrutiny of her record there. Wasilla's practice of charging victims for their rape exams while she was mayor has gotten wide circulation on the Internet and in the mainstream media. Watch CNN's Jessica Yellin check the facts in Wasilla »

Some supporters of Palin say they believe she had no knowledge of the practice.But critics call it "outrageous" and question Palin's commitment to helping women who are the victims of violence.

For years, Alaska has had the worst record of any state in rape and in murder of women by men. The rape rate in Alaska is 2.5 times the national average.

Interviews and a review of records turned up no evidence that Palin knew that rape victims were being charged in her town. But Croft, the former state representative who sponsored the law changing the practice, says it seems unlikely Palin was not aware of the issue.

"I find it hard to believe that for six months a small town, a police chief, would lead the fight against a statewide piece of legislation receiving unanimous support and the mayor not know about it," Croft said.

During the time Palin was mayor of Wasilla, her city was not the only one in Alaska charging rape victims. Experts testified before the Legislature that in a handful of small cities across Alaska, law enforcement agencies were charging victims or their insurance "more than sporadically."

One woman who wrote in support of the legislation says she was charged for her rape exam by a police department in the city of Juneau, which is hundreds of miles from Wasilla.

But Wasilla stood out. Tara Henry, a forensic nurse who has been treating rape victims across Alaska for the last 12 years, told CNN that opposition to Croft's bill from Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon was memorable.

"Several municipal law enforcement agencies in the state did have trouble budgeting and paying for the evidence collection for sexual assault victims," Henry said. "What I recall is that the chief of police in the Wasilla police department seemed to be the most vocal about how it was going to affect their budget."

Croft has a similar memory. He said victims' advocates suggested he introduce legislation as a way to shame cities into changing their practice, and Wasilla resisted.

"I remember they had continued opposition," Croft said. "It was eight years ago now, but they were sort of unrepentant that they thought the taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for that."

He does not recall discussing the issue with then-Mayor Palin.

The bill, HB270, was before the legislature for six months. In testimony, one expert called the practice of billing the victim "incomprehensible." Others compared it to "dust[ing] for fingerprints" after a burglary, only "the victim's body is the crime scene."

During a rape exam, the victim removes her clothing and a medical professional gathers DNA evidence from her body. There is also a medical component to assess her injuries. That component has led some law enforcement agencies to balk at paying.

Henry, the forensic nurse, said charging victims "retraumatizes them."

"Asking them to pay for something law enforcement needs in order to investigate their case, it's almost like blaming them for getting sexually assaulted," she said.

The Alaska Legislature agreed. The bill passed unanimously with the support of the Alaska Department of Public Safety, the Alaska Peace Officers Association and more than two dozen co-sponsors.

After it became law, Wasilla's police chief told the local paper, The Frontiersman, that it would cost the city $5,000 to $14,000 a year -- money that he'd have to find.

"In the past, we've charged the cost of the exams to the victim's insurance company when possible," Fannon was quoted as saying. "I just don't want to see any more burden on the taxpayer."

He suggested the criminals should pay as restitution if and when they're convicted. Repeated attempts to reach Fannon for comment were unsuccessful.

Judy Patrick, who was Palin's deputy mayor and friend, blames the state.

"The bigger picture of what was going on at the time was that the state was trying to cut their own budget, and one of the things that they were doing was passing on costs to cities, and that was one of the many things that they were passing on, the cost to the city," said Patrick, who recalls enormous pressure to keep the city's budget down.

But the state was never responsible for paying the costs of local investigations. Patrick was also a member of Wasilla City Council, and she doesn't recall the issue coming before council members, nor does she remember discussing the issue with Palin.

She does recall Palin going through the budget in detail. She said Palin would review each department's budget line by line and send it back to department heads with her changes.

"Sarah is a fiscal conservative, and so she had seen that the city was heading in a direction of bigger projects, costing taxpayers more money, and she was determined to change that," Patrick said.

Before Palin came to City Hall, the Wasilla Police Department paid for rape kits out of a fund for miscellaneous costs, according to the police chief who preceded Fannon and was fired by Palin. That budget line was cut by more than half during Palin's tenure, but it did not specifically mention rape exams.

In a statement, Jill Hazelbaker, communications director for Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign, said that "to imply that Gov. Palin is or has ever been an advocate of charging victims for evidence gathering kits is an utter distortion of reality."

"As her record shows, Gov. Palin is committed to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice," Hazelbaker said. "She does not, nor has she ever believed that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence gathering test."

Those who fought the policy are unconvinced.

"It's incomprehensible to me that this could be a rogue police chief and not a policy decision. It lasted too long and it was too high-profile," Croft said.

The rape kit charges have become an issue among Palin critics who say as governor she has not done enough to combat Alaska's epidemic problem of violence against women. They point to a small funding increase for domestic violence shelters at a time when Alaska has a multibillion-dollar budget surplus. Victims' advocates say that services are lacking and that Palin cut funding for a number of programs that treat female victims of violence.

In the past week, Alaska's challenges with sexual assault have been in the spotlight again -- in connection with an ongoing inquiry into whether Palin abused her power by firing the head of Alaska's Department of Public Safety. Palin's office released e-mails showing that one area of disagreement between her and Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was his lobbying in Washington for $30 million to fund a new program of sexual assault response teams.

The McCain-Palin campaign insists that fighting domestic violence and sexual assault are priorities for Palin. And they say she has been looking at other programs to support. As governor, Palin approved a funding increase for domestic violence shelters -- $266,200 over two years. And she reauthorized a Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault.

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Since you said you spent hours researching Palin....surely you can point us toward some of what you are refering to.

Ace she left the town with a mountain of debt..

when she came into office? the town had no debt...

she left about 20 million in debt for a town of less than 6000...

she did it to build a hockey rink...

and the planning on the hockey rink was a mess too.. she didn't buy all the land before she began construction, so the owner of the land she needed obvioulsy held out for alot more money...

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The simple fact that she is trying to keep people from finding things out about her record is pretty good evidence that there is some pretty good and damaging evidence being covered up, which in turn more than suggest it isn't simply evidence of bad stuff Palin didn't know about.

One thing we do know, she is a pretty constant liar.

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if you increased the national debt by the same amount on a per person basis?

that would be 3500 X 300 million...... is that over trillion? [BadOne] she's not conservative..

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She sure knows how to get money from the Government.

When I was up in alaska never saw so much gonernment funding to people and business.

Never saw so much oil money going to regular people. The oil companies just buy there right to drill form the local idiots

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OK, to give you an idea how big a deal being Govenror of Alask is? Alaska has ONE Congressional district....

Alaska's At-large congressional district comprises the entire state of Alaska. This Congressional district has the largest area and lowest population density of any district in the United States. It has been represented by Republican Don Young since 1973.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska%27s_At-large_congressional_district

the more i learn about Alaska? the more i want to move there...

the whole state is just like a small town with very long streets [Big Grin]

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I wonder how hot the girls are there... if Palin looks like that lol

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Haven,t you ever been to Alaska if you have you would not have asked that question.

Not to many lookers. As a matter of fact a good looking girl the Alaskans say she is most likley a tourtist.

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Then I guess Palin is a tourist lol another lie from her damnit!!!

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OK, to give you an idea how big a deal being Govenror of Alask is? Alaska has ONE Congressional district....
Regardless of how big it is, it's still a much bigger deal than being a community organizer. LOL!
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quote:
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OK, to give you an idea how big a deal being Govenror of Alask is? Alaska has ONE Congressional district....
Regardless of how big it is, it's still a much bigger deal than being a community organizer. LOL!
sounds like thats all it is!! lol...Hell,pms, maybe even YOU could govern alaska!

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quote:
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OK, to give you an idea how big a deal being Govenror of Alask is? Alaska has ONE Congressional district....
Regardless of how big it is, it's still a much bigger deal than being a community organizer. LOL!
Depends on the community, dumbo.

Organizing the poor in Chicago is a whale of a job that was beyond the abilities and patience of anyone before Obama (or maybe it was beyond their racial prejudices). There is no doubt the intricacies of a whole great big enormous population of barely more than half a million is many miles simpler, particularly when one considers that there is already a organization there to take over and nothing needed to be created out of nothing.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Propertymanager:
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OK, to give you an idea how big a deal being Govenror of Alask is? Alaska has ONE Congressional district....
Regardless of how big it is, it's still a much bigger deal than being a community organizer. LOL!
Depends on the community, dumbo.

Organizing the poor in Chicago is a whale of a job that was beyond the abilities and patience of anyone before Obama (or maybe it was beyond their racial prejudices). There is no doubt the intricacies of a whole great big enormous population of barely more than half a million is many miles simpler, particularly when one considers that there is already a organization there to take over and nothing needed to be created out of nothing.

Obama was in charge of organizing all the poor in Chicago?
Don't they have a Mayor that would be somewhat involved.
Did Obama have to give detailed accounts of what he accomplished?
What did he accomplish?
What size staff did he have?
Are the poor of Chicago visably better off because Obama was their community organizer?

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